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We
are
joined
here
in
person
in
the
county
boardroom
and
we
are
also
joined
virtually
and
with
that
I'd
like
to
ask
for
people
who
are
on
the
call,
if
you
can
please
mute
yourselves
because
you
are
being
recorded
and
with
that
I
will
see.
If
there
are
any
comments
that
are
not
on
the
agenda
hearing
none
I'll
turn
the
meeting
over
to
Chairman.
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Okay,
and
with
that,
we
have
Michelle
Holland
here
with
colleagues
from
VDOT
and
Michelle.
Your
introduce
the
others
and
the
first
agenda
item
is
the
I-66
express
lanes,
project
update
and
I'll,
introduce
the
second
one
too,
since
you're
speaking
on
both
and
it's
the
change
from
hov2
to
hov3.
Okay.
Thank
you
good.
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So
thank
you
very
much
for
letting
us
come
tonight
a
while,
since
we've
created
your
committee,
but
we're
glad
to
be
back
so
we're
Nearing.
D
Oh,
should
I
start
over
Okay
Okay
we're
here
this
evening
to
provide
you
an
update
on
the
66
express
lanes,
project
also
referred
to
as
transform
66
outside
the
Beltway,
and
we
also
have
a
change
that
is
going
to
be
taking
effect
affecting
HOV
drivers
and
that
is
across
the
entire
I-66
Corridor,
including
both
outside
and
inside
the
Beltway.
So
we
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
get
back
with
you
and
provide
you.
This
update.
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Before
we
dig
into
66
just
wanted
to
at
a
high
level
just
review
where
we
are
right
now
with
our
regional
express
lanes
Network
here
in
the
northern
Virginia
region,
once
our
express
lanes
open
on
66,
we
will
have
more
than
90
mile
more
than
a
90
mile
network
of
express
lanes
throughout
Northern
Virginia.
D
We
do
have
other
express
lanes
projects
that
are
currently
under
construction.
We
have
a
10
mile
extension
on
the
95
express
lanes
facility
that
will
go
from
the
current
point
where
that
facility
ends,
which
is
in
Stafford
County
10
miles
south
into
Fredericksburg.
D
We
have
a
three
mile
extension
if
you
could
go
back
to
the
thank
you
three
mile
extension
that
is
now
under
construction,
extending
the
495
Express
Lanes,
from
where
it
currently
terminates
at
the
Dulles
Corridor
interchange
to
the
George
Washington
Parkway,
essentially
at
the
American
Legion
Bridge.
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And
then
we
have
a
small
ramp
that
we're
we're
building
on
the
95
express
lanes,
providing
express
lanes,
access
to
and
from
Prince
William
County
Parkway
and
some
businesses
in
that
area.
That's
on
Opitz
Boulevard,
that
is
also
under
construction.
We're
also
doing
an
environmental
assessment,
studying
improvements
for
an
11
Mile
Stretch
between
the
Springfield
interchange
through
Alexandria
over
the
Woodrow
Wilson
Bridge,
and
to
Maryland
to
210
interchange.
So
that
is
currently
under
study
next
slide.
D
Just
to
give
you
a
quick
overview.
I
know
you've
all
been
living
through
this
project
for
the
last
five
years,
but
it
is
a
22
and
a
half
mile
project
Corridor.
We
are
building
four
new
express
lanes,
two
lanes
in
each
Direction,
they're
being
built
on
the
inner
portion
of
66,
and
they
will
be
alongside
three
general
purpose:
Lanes
in
each
Direction
on
66.,
we've
preserved
the
median
through
much
of
the
corridor
for
future
potential
Transit.
D
The
project
includes
a
lot
of
benefits
beyond
the
express
lanes,
and
that
includes
a
lot
of
benefits
for
Transit
unit
users
and
carpoolers.
We've
built
two
new
park
and
ride
Lots
out
in
Prince
William
County.
As
part
of
this
project,
we,
our
private
Partners,
have
provided
funding
for
another
Park
and
Ride
lot
in
Fairfax
County
on
Monument
Drive,
so
we're
providing
nearly
4
000
new
parking
spaces
for
commuters,
allowing
them
opportunities
to
experience
the
express
lanes
and
benefit
from
them
by
not
paying
a
toll
if
they're
carpooling
we're
also
providing
an
11
mile
bike.
D
Pedestrian
shared
use
path,
adjacent
to
I-66
through
essentially
from
Gallows
Road
through
the
Fairfax
County
portion
of
the
project,
Corridor
we're
providing
new
pedestrian
facilities
across
all
of
the
bridges
that
we've
rebuilt
that
cross
over
66,
as
well
as
some
connections
that
were
needed
on
some
of
the
Fairfax
County
facilities.
So
we're
very
excited
about
the
multimodal
benefits
that
this
project
provides.
We
began
Construction
in
late
2017.
We
were
very
proud
to
be
able
to
open
our
first
nine
miles,
the
Western
segment
of
the
corridor
early.
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D
D
This
just
covers
again.
We
opened
our
Western
section,
which
is
the
furthest
point
west
of
the
corridor,
which
begins
essentially
at
Route
29
in
Gainesville
to
Route
28
in
Centerville,
and
that
is
the
first
section
that
was
ready
to
open
early.
We
opened
it
September
10th
and
we
began
tolling
in
HOV
operations
a
little
bit
later
that
month.
D
There's
continued
preparation,
work,
that's
happening
now
in
order
to
get
the
Eastern
segment
open
here
by
the
end
of
the
month.
Some
of
that
work.
Much
of
that
work
is
weather
dependent.
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So
as
long
as
we
continue
to
have
the
mild
temperatures
that
we're
having
out
there
now,
we
feel
like
we're
in
a
good
spot,
but
the
crews
are
still
out
there
doing
final
Preparatory
work
such
as
vinyl
Paving
they're,
installing
the
flex
post,
dividing
the
express
lanes
from
the
general
purpose,
Lanes
they're,
still
installing
final
overhead
gantries
and
signs,
and
then
they
have
to
work
through
the
testing
of
the
tolling
and
traffic
management
system.
D
Next
slide.
The
six
C6
express
lanes
will
work
very
similar
to
the
other
Express
Lanes
in
the
region.
They
are
toll
lanes
for
people
that
have
fewer
than
three
or
more
people
in
their
vehicle.
If
people
choose
to
take
the
lanes
and
pay
that
toll,
that
toll
is
dynamic
and
it
will
fluctuate
based
on
the
amount
of
traffic
that
is
out
there
at
that
particular
time
when
people
are
using
the
lanes
and
the
whole
concept
behind
that.
Just
like
our
other
express
lanes
is
it's
demand
based.
D
We
want
to
keep
that
toll
price
Dynamic
so
that
we
are
monitor
managing
demand
for
the
lane,
so
that
people
that
are
using
the
express
lanes
will
get
a
free
flow
trip
in
a
more
reliable
trip,
so
they're
getting
something
from
their
their
money.
Their
total
price
in
advance
of
each
entrance
point
there
will
be
signage
just
like
there
is
with
our
other
express
lanes,
letting
people
know
what
their
toll
price
is
at
that
time.
If
they
decide
to
enter
the
lanes.
D
Something
that's
a
little
bit
different
on
this
Corridor
is
that
it's
going
to
be
priced
in
segments
I
believe
we
have
three
segments,
heading
Eastbound
and
four
segments
heading
westbound,
that's
similar
to
how
the
pricing
is
on
the
95
express
lanes
and
that's
because
the
corridor
is
so
long
that
it
would
be
very
difficult
to
give
a
price
if
you're
entering
clear
out
in
Gainesville,
based
on
what
traffic
conditions
are
22
and
a
half
miles
later.
So
there's
three
different
segments.
D
Toll
payment
options
work
just
like
the
other
express
lanes.
People
need
an
Easy
Pass.
They
need
an
easy
pass
flex
if
they
want
to
travel
toll-free.
So
we're
you
know
out
there
encouraging
people
to
make
sure
they're
prepared
and
they
have
their
Easy
Pass,
our
private
partner,
Express
Mobility
Partners.
D
Express
Mobility
Partners
is
out
there
with
a
marketing
campaign
education
campaign
out
there,
making
sure
that
people
are
aware
what's
happening
on
66.
Now
that
all
this
construction
is
nearing
the
end
and
that
they
understand
where
to
get
on
and
off
the
lanes
and
how
to
be
prepared
to
use
the
express
lanes.
D
One
important
change
that
we
in
really
this
is
one
of
the
main
reasons
why
we're
here
tonight
is
we
want
to
make
sure
that
all
of
our
stakeholders
and
the
traveling
public
are
aware
that,
as
stated
at
the
beginning
of
this
project,
we
are
changing
the
HOV
requirement
from
two
people
to
three
or
more
people,
and
what
that
means
is
now
that
66
will
be
essentially
express
lanes
outside
the
Beltway.
D
Why
are
we
doing
this?
That's
a
question
we're
getting
from
people.
Obviously,
this
we
want
consistency,
it's
better
for
the
traveling
public,
it's
better
for
keeping
traffic
moving
moving
more
people
through
the
corridor.
The
hov3
requirement
for
toll-free
travel
is
a
consistent
policy
that
we
have
on
all
of
our
express
lanes
here
in
the
northern
Virginia
region.
So
somebody
that
is
carpooling
taking
a
bus
joining
a
van
poll.
They
will
have
seamless
connection
to
all
of
the
express
lanes
throughout
the
region
if
they
have
three
or
more
people.
D
So
it's
really
important
that
that's
consistent
and
that's
what
we
mean
by
the
second
bullet,
just
that
that's
our
regional
policy
if
we
can
get
three
or
more
people
and
vehicles
to
carpool.
Obviously
that
means
we're
going
to
be
have
fewer
vehicles
and
that's
always
been
our
goal
on
these
express
lanes
project
is
we
want
to
move
more
people,
not
necessarily
vehicles.
D
We
want
to
move
more
people
through
the
corridor
and
through
the
region,
and
this
gives
us
the
opportunity
to
do
that.
It
also
helps
us
to
reduce
the
number
of
vehicle
miles.
Traveled
folks
again
that
are
traveling
toll-free,
get
that
benefit
of
the
faster
and
more
reliable
travel
that
express
lanes
offers.
So
it's
a
it's
a
good
incentive
for
people
to
try
to
carpool.
D
So
that
is
just
kind
of
a
high
level
overview
of
the
reasoning
behind
this
bye.
D
We
do
we
did
have
you
know
decision
points
backing
up
this
change
in
June
of
2016..
Our
Commonwealth
Transportation
board
did
pass
a
resolution
approving
this
change
on
66
outside
the
Beltway
from
University
Boulevard
in
Gainesville
to
495..
D
In
order
to
get
raise,
awareness
of
this
change,
VDOT
is
leading
an
Outreach
campaign.
We're
really
focusing
on
the
benefits
that
the
66
express
lanes
are
going
to
bring
to
carpoolers
and
Transit
users,
but
we
also
want
to
be
very
transparent
and
open
that
it
is.
It's
also
going
to
change
the
way
you
move
and
that
does
affect
people
that
are
used
to
carpooling
with
two
people.
So
we
realize
it's
a
change,
we're
doing
everything
that
we
can
with
the
resources
that
we
have
to
get
the
information
out
there.
D
We
will
continue
to
operate
and
maintain
our
transform66.org
website,
which
has
been
our
construction
focused
website
that
is
going
to
continue
to
live
until
this
project
is
completed,
and
that
will
be
our
main
call
to
action
for
people
to
get
information
about.
What's
coming
up,
the
change
that's
happening
on
66
and
also
to
give
them
an
easy
connection,
our
easy
access
to
our
partners
that
operate
programs
that
are
designed
to
help
people
who
want
to
carpool
who
want
to
find
that
third
person.
D
We
want
to
make
it
easy
for
those
folks,
so
we'll
have
very
prominent
access
and
connections
to
our
Transit
partners
and
then
we're
also
doing
a
paid
media
campaign
where
we're
going
to
be
doing
a
lot
of
advertising
on
various
digital
platforms
targeting
drivers
that
travel
the
66
corridor.
D
D
One
thing
I
do
want
to
point
out
on
this
slide
is,
in
addition
to
the
information
about
the
change
from
HOV
two
to
three
we're
also
putting
in
resources
for
financial
incentives
to
help
people
form
that
three-person
carpool
we're
working
with
commuter
connections
and
we're
funding
incentives
for
people
that
form
change
their
existing
carpool
to
a
three-person,
carpool
or
form.
A
new
carpool
and
people
are
eligible
to
receive
up
to
366
dollars,
depending
on
where
their
commute
takes
them
on
66..
D
E
For
decades,
we've
had
the
slug
lines
on
the
95
Corridor
to
take
advantage
of
the
HOV
lanes.
Has
that
been
developed
or
is
it
being
developed
along
the
66
corridor?.
D
D
Different
elements
of
this
project-
Express
Lanes
in
themselves
being
free
to
carpoolers
through
the
park
and
ride
Lots
our
project's
also
finding
additional
bus
routes
from
Prince,
William,
County
and
Fairfax
County
taking
people
from
Gainesville.
You
know
into
DC,
so
we
are
trying,
through
those
mechanisms
trying
to
create
a
carpool
culture
that
doesn't
currently
exist
on
66.
We're
very
aware
of
the
success
that
slugging
has
had
on
the
95
Corridor
and
we
would
love
to
see
something
like
that
on
66.
D
E
Because
there's
already
this
slug
line
pickups
in
DC,
which
presumably
would
work
just
as
well
for
66
as
they
do
for
95
some
beaches
to
say
which
one
I'm
going
on,
but
I,
don't
know
how
it
works.
On
the
other
end
from
coming
out
going
into
into
town,
you
know
where
the
pickup
spots
are
along
95
and
whether
we
could
do
something
similar
along
66.,
I.
D
Think
I
think
more
of
that,
as
you
know,
once
the
Lane's
open
and
as
people
start
to
resume
their
commute
normal
commute
patterns,
you
know
we
don't
formally
have
a
slogging
program
in
place,
but
again
we're
offering
you
know:
4
000
new
parking
spots.
The
toll,
Revenue,
that's
generated
from
the
express
lanes
on
66
inside
the
Beltway,
has
been
funding
now
for
I.
Think
about
three
years.
Many
Transit
projects,
including
things
that
help
carpoolers
and
Van
pullers.
So
there's
a
lot
of
effort
going
into
encouraging
and
increasing
in
building
our
carpool
culture.
D
So
you
know
I,
don't
know
whether
or
not
it'll
be
identical
to
95.
There
are
two
very
different
corridors,
and
one
thing
we
are
seeing
now
that
we're
past
or
that
we're
on
the
other
side
of
covet
I
should
say
is
that
our
traffic
volumes
are
rebounding
to
what
they
were
pre-covered
but
we're
seeing
travel
times,
there's
different
traffic
patterns,
so
people
aren't
necessarily
going
in
at
once
that
time
and
leaving
it
once
that
time,
so
that
that
can
also
be
a
challenge
for
people
that
want
a
slug.
F
You
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
I'm
just
curious.
If
we
have
any
I
guess
talking
about
I-66
inside
the
Beltway,
if
there's,
if
you
have
any
travel
data
available
on,
let's
see
like
car
volume,
are
we
seeing
reductions
in
car
volumes
in
travel
time
improvements
along
I-66
I
mean
that
was
the
whole
purpose
of
having
these
inside
the
Beltway
hotlines
was
to
improve
travel
time
and
and
reduce
I
guess
you
know
car
volume.
So
do
you
have
any
things
available?
We.
G
Art
yeah,
we
do
have
some
information
that
we
can
send
to
you,
for
example,
on
66
inside
the
Beltway
eastbound
between
5
30
and
9
30,
which
is
a
big
hour
and
direction.
We
have
comparisons
between
September
of
2019,
2020
2022
and,
as
you
can
expect
with,
when
the
volumes
decrease
you're
in.
G
Okay,
so
I
was
talking
about
the
data
that
we
do
have
that
we
can
share.
We
can
forward
it
to
someone,
but
in
general,
for
example,
for
66
inside
the
Beltway
in
the
eastbound
Direction
Peak
period.
We
have
noticed
that
comparing
average
speeds
in
September
of
2019
pre-covered
to
2020
in
the
middle
of
Kobe
to
September
of
2022.
We
have
tracked
the
variation
of
the
average
travel
speeds.
G
The
the
lower
volumes
in
the
middle
of
the
pandemic
resulted
in
the
highest
speeds,
so
the
trend
has
been
up
to
the
middle
of
covert
and
slightly
down.
It's
not
just
the
same
as
it
was
pre-covered,
but
it's
approaching,
as
as
Michelle
mentioned,
the
overall
volumes
have
tended
toward
pre-covet,
but
we're
not
there.
Yet
in
the
westbound
direction,
for
example,
we
have
the
average
speeds.
G
2019
September
was
53
miles
an
hour
now,
I'm
gonna
go
back
to
very
recently
2020
to
September
58
miles
an
hour,
so
you
can
see
that
if
you
think
of
average
speeds
as
inversely
proportional
to
volumes
which
they
tend
to
be,
you
will
see
that
we're
approaching,
but
we're
not
quite
there.
Yet
we
have
this
data
and
we
can
forward
it
to
you.
G
You
know
we
have
it.
Tabulated
yeah
for
your
reference.
D
And
we
also
track
the
percent
of
car
of
Travelers
that
are
carpoolers,
so
we
can
provide
that.
D
That
as
well,
so
you
can
get
a
a
sense
of
how
many
more
carpoolers
and
Transit
users
you
know.
F
F
D
Our
environmental
assessment
covers
that
entire
area
right,
but
when
the
project
I
guess
during
the
development
of
the
project,
it
was
determined
that
the
express
lanes
Corridor
the
project
that
we're
building
today
would
terminate
at
University
Boulevard,
which
is
near
Route
29
in
Gainesville
gotcha.
But
our
Environmental
Studies
did
include
that
portion
from
Gainesville
to
Haymarket.
D
F
D
Right
now,
the
express
lanes
will
not
currently
extend
a
Haymarket
they'll,
but.
A
D
Is
that
HOV
lane
that
still
would
be
in
existence
during
peak
hours,
on
that
stretch
from
University
Boulevard
to
Haymarket?
That's
what
I
was
referring
to
yeah.
C
B
H
Good
evening
I
appreciate
it
my
apologies
for
not
being
there
in
person.
Thank
you
for
this
information.
The
question
is,
you
mentioned.
Median
space
was
left
over
for
potential,
public
transit
are
there
and
for
public
transit
along
the
corridor
and
any
specific
examples
you
maybe
may
give
about
this-
about
public
transit
being
Incorporated
in
the
future.
D
There's
no
specific
plan
at
this
time.
You
know
to
utilize
that
space
for
Transit,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
as
part
of
our
project
is,
we
made
sure
to
leave
room
in
the
median
to
allow
for
that
in
the
future.
If
and
when
such
enhancements
you
know
would
be
funded
or
would
move
forward.
D
You
know
this
exists
in
the
section
of
the
corridor,
I
guess
west,
of
where
the
Metro
is
essentially
to
Centerville
I,
believe
that
space
is
preserved
and
then
further
west
of
that
area.
We
didn't
have
a
need
to
do
that,
because
it
is
a
lot
wider
out
in
that
area
and
less
less
densely
populated,
less
congested.
D
So
I,
don't
I
mean.
Do
you
recall
just
in
the
feet
the
number
of
the
width
of
the
median
yeah.
I
There's
42
feet:
that's
left
in
the
middle
as
part
of
the
Reconstruction
of
the
bridges
as
well.
Many
of
them
were
built
to
accommodate
that
42
foot
width
as
well,
so
piers
were
reconfigured
to
so
that
in
the
few
you
know
being
built
in
a
way.
That's
mindful
of
future
Transit
improvements
that
would
run
through
the
median
one
piece.
I'd
add
also
there's
as
part
of
the
spacing
sort
of
long-term
plan
piece
of
it.
I
There's
potential
for
park
for
Transit
centers
at
where
the
monument
garage
is
going
in,
as
well
as
at
the
current
Stringfellow,
Park
and
Ride
lot
and
out
at
Centerville
route
29..
That
was
actually
an
additional
project.
Some
additional
funding
that
was
worked
through
as
part
of
the
project
to
expand
the
potential
to
do
that
out
of
Centerville
29.
C
D
Well,
certainly,
both
toll
violators
and
HOV
violators.
It's
important
that
we
reduce
that
and
minimize
that
as
much
as
possible
people
that
are
traveling
as
HOV.
As
you
said,
they
have
to
nominate
on
their
transponder
HOV
and
that
tells
the
system
that
they're
traveling
is
Hov
and
they're
not
to
be
told
people
that
do
that
and
aren't
following
the
rules
and
aren't
HOV.
D
We
have
Virginia
State
Police
that
are
positioned
throughout
the
corridor
and
that
is
their
role
is
to
be
able
to
observe
that
they
have
technology
where
they
will
see
a
flashing
light
if
on
their
device
and
from
the
roadway.
If
a
car
has
is
passing
through
as
HOV,
they
have
their
transponder
switch
to
HOV,
and
then
they
would
be
there
to
do.
D
A
visual
inspection
and
I
know
I,
believe
that's
what
our
partners
who
are
operating
66
outside
the
Beltway
are
doing
as
well
and
I
know
our
other
partners,
trans
Urban,
that's
how
they
operate
their
Lanes.
There
continues
to
be
you
know,
technology,
evolving,
that's
helping
that
process
and
helping
people
or
helping
trans
Urban
and
express
Mobility
partners
and
VDOT
with
our
enforcement
strategies.
D
I
believe
on
several
of
the
facilities
here
in
Northern,
Virginia
they're
also
doing
vehicle
occupancy
detection,
I
think
cameras
they're
using
so
there
are
there's
technology
out
there
and
I
think
EMP
is
going
to
be
using
the
same
outside
the
Beltway.
So
I
look
for
enforcement
to
even
become
more
effective.
You
know,
as
our
partners
work
together
and
as
technology
evolves,
I
mean
it
has
been
I
know
it's
been
challenging
at
least
recently
because
of
you
know,
just
like
lots
of
other
organizations.
I
know
there
are
Staffing
challenges.
D
So
again
we
do
have
I
know
we
put
funding
to
support
the
state
police
to
come
out
and
do
that
enforcement,
but
I
would
have
to
Circle
back
with
you
on.
You
know
what
the
stats
are
in
terms
of
what
the
violation
rates
are.
The
goal
is
is
that
if
people
are
required
to
have
an
Easy
Pass,
we're
actually
cutting
way
down
on
HOV
violators
from
what
it
used
to
be
prior
to
express
lanes,
but
I
realize
we.
That
is
a
continuing
challenge
that
we
have
to
deal
with.
C
Yeah
I
look
forward
to
seeing
more
of
the
technology,
because
I
mean
at
least
I
haven't
seen
data
recently,
but
in
2019
I
know
some
folks,
you
know,
went
to
Virginia
State
Police
and
said
hey
how
many
of
these
violations
are
you
getting
on
a
regular
basis
and
the
numbers
were
just
silly.
It
was
like
14
violations
a
week
which
is
like
two
a
day
like
which
is
not
anybody
who
drives
on
66
and
looks
around
knows
that
there's
a
lot
more
right,
HOV
violations
than
than
two
a
day.
D
And
again
that
could
be
due
to
Staffing
challenges,
and
we
know
that
the
visual
enforcement
is
not
100.
I
mean
we.
We
know
that
it's
it's
the
effort
that
we
have
in
place
currently
with
the
knowledge
and
goal
that
we're
working
with
private
Partners
on
Innovative
technology,
to
make
it
better,
as
I
said,
I
believe
transurban
our
partners
on
495
and
95
and
395
are
doing
some
vehicle.
Occupancy
detection
and
I.
C
E
Lane
told
me
back
to
you:
yeah
I
have
another
question,
and
this
is
on
on
the
actual
tools
themselves.
I've
noticed
a
number
of
times,
for
example
the
Beltway,
where
it's
still
24
hours
a
day,
it's
always
being
charged
even
way
off
hours
when
traffic's
moving
very
well
on
the
regular
Lanes.
It's
still
I
thought
reasonably
pricey
to
get
onto
the
the
the
toll
Lanes
it's
in
dollars,
it's
you
know
not
just
cents.
E
Yet,
every
time
I've
been
on
95
Northeast
of
Baltimore,
where
they
have
the
same
setup
there
off
hours,
it's
like
60
cents,
50
cents.
You
know
I've
seen
that
so
there's
always
been
to
me
a
great
disparity
between
what
it,
what
the
express
lanes
in
Baltimore
charge
and
what
our
express
lanes
charge
and
this
again
this
is
only
the
off
hours.
During
the
you
know,
I
understand
the
dollar
amounts
during
rush
hours.
They
make
sense
to
me
and
I
see
them
going
up
and
down
all
the
time.
E
So
that
works
really
well,
it's
the
off
hours
that
I'm
just
not
getting
why
it's
still
as
expensive.
It
is,
you
know
it's
it's
almost
as
though
they
don't
want
people
to
drive
on
it
during
the
off
hours,
because
it,
you
know,
wears
the
road
away.
They'd
rather
have
people
go
on
the
free
Road,
so
yeah
I
mean
being
a
bit
of
conspiracist
here,
but
it
just
again
the
tolling
doesn't
make
sense
to
me
for
the
for
the
off
hours.
D
I
mean
I
can't
speak
the
Baltimore
area,
I,
don't
know
whether
they're
tolling
is
completely
dynamic
or
if
it's
based
on
time
of
day,
you
know
there
are
different
ways
of
doing
the
tolling.
The
tolling
on
the
express
lanes
in
Northern
Virginia
is
very
much
Dynamic
and
it's
based
on
real-time
travel
conditions.
So
you
know,
as
I
mentioned,
we
do
have
private
Partners
operating
the
express
lanes
in
Northern
Virginia
and
they
adjust
the
tolling
algorithm
based
on
accomplishing
the
goal
of
keeping
traffic
moving.
I
mean
they
have.
D
There
are
requirements
and
criteria
that
they
must
meet
in
terms
of
keeping
traffic
moving.
The
majority
of
the
time
I
believe
it's
up
between
45
and
55
miles
per
hour.
So
the
goal
is:
is
that
somebody
who
chooses
to
pay
the
toll
will
get
the
free
flow
ride
that
they're
paying
for
or
that
they're
calling
for?
And
it
is
a
choice.
D
You
know
nobody
is
forced
to
take
those
Lanes.
You
always
have
a
free
option
in
the
general
purpose.
Lanes,
but
I
hear
you
yeah.
Thank
you
for
sharing
that.
D
I
did
want
to
wanna.
We
will
be
briefing
staff
Transportation
staff
here
at
Arlington
County
here
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
certainly
available
to
brief
any
of
your
elected
officials
on
the
board.
If,
if
you
would
need
that
or
want
that
and
we'll
continue
to
work
with
your
Communications
staff
and
your
Transit
partners
and
TDM
Partners,
so
that
we
can
continue
to
reinforce
our
message
and
get
information
out
to
make
sure
everybody's
aware,
gotcha.
J
First
I
wanted
to
thank
you
very
much
for
the
present
presentation.
This
was
very
informative
and
I
I
definitely
encourage
continued
Outreach.
This
is
going
to
be
a
change
and
so
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
catching
people
by
surprise.
My
question
is
in
regard
you
had
mentioned
kind
of
the
local
lanes
and
the
option
for
traffic
to
go
through
local
local
traffic.
Like
leads
in
Arlington.
That
is
actually
not.
You
know,
that's
not
an
option.
J
We
would
be
going
through
if
you're
running
along
the
Arlington
portion
of
66
you're
running
along
Lee,
Highway
you're
running
along
Washington
Boulevard,
which
are
if
it's
my
understanding.
The
sections
are
part
of
VDOT
I'm
wondering.
Is
there
consideration
on
improvements
to
those
local
sections,
especially
in
regards
to
safety
and
and
just
kind
of
traffic
control,
as
as
traffic
is
moving
through
Arlington.
D
Well,
I
appreciate
you
bringing
up
you
know
those
questions
and
concerns.
I
do
want
to
reiterate
that
the
benefit
of
express
lanes
throughout
the
entire
66
Corridor
is
that
it's
going
to
help
66
to
run
better
to
be
less
congested.
It's
going
to
benefit
both
people
choosing
to
be
on
Express,
as
well
as
people
continuing
to
use
the
regular
general
purpose.
D
Lanes
it's
going
to
encourage
people
to
stay
on
66
rather
than
diverting
to
local
roads,
so
we're
expecting
that
it's
going
to
be
better
for
people
living
and
traveling
on
the
local
roads,
because
66
is
going
to
operate
better
with
any
opening
of
a
new
facility.
There's
a
ramp
up
period
and
the
ramp
up
period
for
express
lanes
can
range
anywhere
from
a
couple
of
months
up
to
two
to
three
years.
It
takes
a
while
for
people
to
get
used
to
you
know
the
system,
the
tolling,
to
start
to
develop
their
choices
and
patterns.
D
All
I
can
say
is
we
will
you
know
we're
continuing
to
monitor
it
once
it
opens?
You
know
we're
going
to
continue
to
closely
monitor
any
potential
impacts
on
local
roads
and
if
there
needs
to
be
adjustments
to
intersections
or
traffic
signals,
then
we
work
with
our
Northern
Virginia
district
and
our
local
Partners
to
see
you
know
what
modifications
might
be
needed.
G
Just
wanted
to
mention
that,
as
you
probably
know,
because
your
staff
works
with
a
commuter
Choice
program,
some
of
the
funding
that
comes
from
tall
revenues
goes
to
projects
and
I'm.
Just
looking
at
the
20
23
24
program,
I
see
that,
for
example,
there's
one
in
Arlington,
the
Boston
Metrorail
West
entrance.
4.5
million
is
the
request,
so
I
think
what
I'm
trying
to
say
is
that
some
of
those
funds
are
used
for
specific
applications
by
the
localities.
C
Yeah
my
recollection
is
Arlington
also
got
some
some
its
money
for
Washington
Boulevard
and
Langston
Boulevard
out
of
66
commuter
choice,
for
just
that
reason
like,
let's
make
the
local
Alternatives
move
better
with
toll
money
outside
I-66
toll
money
does
go
into
ice
into
commuter
Choice.
Some
portion
of
it
too
right
is
that
correct,
I
don't
know
at.
D
This
point
I
will
have
to
get
back
to
you
on
that
I
know
there
is
a
Transit
component
to
66
and
there's
a
Transit
payment
from
our
private
partner
that
is,
funding
enhanced
bus
service,
like
we
talked
about
on
Fairfax
Connector
they're,
going
to
be
implementing
new
routes
starting
in
January
Prince
William
County
Omni
ride
will
Implement
new
routes,
starting
as
early
as
December.
Those
will
travel.
Those
will
transport
a
lot
of
commuters
from
Points
West
through
Arlington
through
inside
the
Beltway
into
DC
that
is
being
funded.
D
It
is
part
of
the
66
project
from
our
private
partners,
specifically
how
the
I
guess
continued
Transit
enhancement,
how
that's
going
to
be
administered
I,
don't
have
the
specifics
on
that
offhand.
I
will
need
to
Circle
back
with
you
on
that.
I.
Don't
know
that
that
there
has
been
formal
agreement
on
that
yet,
but
I'll
I'll
check
with
my
leadership
Circle
back
great.
C
D
The
commuter
Choice
program
is
working
really
well,
it's
benefiting
so
many
people
in
so
many
different
modes
and
aspects
of
travel.
K
Thank
you,
Mr
Sharon,
not
a
complete
answer,
but
just
in
addition
to
clarify
partially
there
was
a
lump
sum
payment
made
by
the
concessionaire
at
the
beginning
of
the
66
outside
the
Beltway
project.
It
went
into
a
pooled
fund
for
projects
to
be
funded
by
the
nvta
and
that
funding
portion
of
that
funding
is
going
to
partially
fund
the
Arlington
County
improvements
of
the
bus
base
of
the
East
Falls
Church
metro,
rail
station
through
drpt
and
VDOT.
So
thank.
D
E
It
is
difficult
to
figure
out
how
much
you
would
have
to
pay,
because
now
we
have
a
network
of
of
toll
toll
road
toll
facilities.
If
you
went
using
like
two
or
three
of
them,
you
you're
not.
You
can't
know
from
the
beginning
how
much
you're
going
to
pay
to
get
to
where
you
want
to
go.
It
would
be
really
great
if
it
could
be
worked
on,
and
this
is
all
the
toll
facilities
in
the
country
got
together.
E
So
you
could
make
decisions
as
you
go
along
whether
to
stay
or
go,
but
it
could
be
real
time.
The
toll
right
there
on
your
screen,
theoretically
I,
think
that
should
be
able
to
be
done
if
everything
just
talked
to
each
other,
yeah
I
think
the
technology
theoretically
is
pretty
much
there.
D
Yeah
and
we
do
have
a
tolling
app
VDOT-
has
a
tolling
app
for
inside
the
Beltway
that
we
launched
back
in
2017
when.
E
C
I
L
We
go
all
right.
Thank
you.
Yeah
I
was
just
curious,
I
mean
this.
Data
is
definitely
out
there,
but
but
I
haven't
gotten
to
it
yet
and
I
was
wondering
what
the
what
the
setup
with
the
private
concessionaire
is
in
terms
of
what
they're
contributing
and
for
collecting
the
tolls
and
basically
what
what?
What's
their
value
to
this
project.
D
Well,
66
is
a
public-private
partnership.
Just
like
fortnite
66
inside
the
Beltway
is
public
publicly
operated
by
VDOT.
Okay,
the
other
express
lane
facilities
in
Northern
Virginia
are
were
built
and
are
operated
through
public-private
Partnerships
for
66
outside
the
Beltway
VDOT
is
in
a
50-year
term
partnership
with
I-66
Express
Mobility
Partners,
which
is
a
Consortium
of
told,
developer
companies,
Centra
meridium,
we're
working
with
them
and
they
went
through.
You
know
we
had
a
procurement
process
under
the
ppta
ACT
and
they're.
D
D
This
project
is
being
fully
funded
by
our
private
partners.
In
addition
to
that,
full
funding
that
they
have
taken
on
it
includes,
as
the
gentleman
just
mentioned,
a
one-time
concession
payment
of
579
million,
and
what
that
means
is
EMP
will
be
the
long-term
operator
of
the
facility
under
this
concession.
This
50-year
concession
agreement
with
the
Commonwealth
VDOT
continues
to
own
the
road.
There
are
concessionaire
and
they
also
had
the
design
build
contractor
working
for
them.
Fam
construction.
D
I
To
put
to
put
a
number
on
it,
it's
about
2.3
billion
dollars
of
construction
costs
being
paid
for
by
the
private
operator,
totaling
3.7
billion,
with
the
additional
Transportation
improvements
all
right.
Thank
you.
Your
big
number.