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A
A
A
My
name
is
Bridget
obicoya
and
I
am
the
transportation
liaison
to
the
Transportation
Commission.
This
meeting
is
being
recorded,
so
please
turn
off
your
mics
on
teams.
If
you
are
not
speaking
before,
we
start
with
the
agenda
items.
Are
there
any
citizen
comments
on
matters
that
are
not
on
the
agenda.
B
I
will
just
press
a
preface
this
first
agenda
item,
which
is
election
of
a
vice
chair
for
the
commission.
B
The
Transportation
Commission
has
not
had
a
vice
chair
in
any
of
the
time
that
I've
been
on
the
commission,
which
is
a
very
long
time,
but
it
is
in
our
Charter
that
we
have
the
opportunity
to
have
one
and
I
did
want
to
share
with
the
commission
that
I
have
an
upcoming
end
date,
probably
about
a
year
or
slightly
less
than
a
year
from
now,
I
will
fall
off
of
the
commission.
It
has
been
an
extremely
long
run.
B
I
am
been
on
here
for
more
than
10
years
at
this
point,
and
it
is,
it
is
time
to
to
let
some
other
folks
have
a
leadership
role
and
whatnot.
So
in
the
interest
of
doing
better
succession
planning
than
the
chairs
who
were
chairs
before
I,
who
left
no
indication
whatsoever
who
might
be
chair
after
they
left
I
think
commissioner
moradovic
has
been
doing
an
absolutely
bang-up
job.
B
He
has
some
great
institutional
knowledge
having
been
here
for
several
years
already
and
if
he
were
to
be
appointed
chair
next
July
when
that
comes
back
around
again,
I
think
he
would
do
a
fantastic
job.
So
I
would
love
to
see
him
on
here
as
Vice
chair,
so
that
I
can
start
passing
along
some
of
the
knowledge
of
what
it
is
that
the
chair
does,
which
is
primarily
writing
letters
and
talking
with
Mr
pecoya
about
the
agenda.
B
So
with
that
said,
I
think
I
will
go
ahead
and
make
a
motion,
which
is
that
the
Transportation
Commission
elect
commissioner
muradovic
as
Vice
chair
of
the
commission,
that's
been
seconded.
Is
there
any
discussion
all
right,
then
we
will
move
to
a
vote.
Commissioner
Coleman.
C
B
Commissioner,
Justin
I
can't
remember
your
last
name,
I'm,
so
sorry
I.
Thank
you,
commissioner
Hussein
aye,
commissioner
Lynn
tell
me
aye,
commissioner
maranovic
system.
Oh.
D
E
B
That
was
a
yes
commissioner,
Shannon
aye
I
will
vote
Yes.
Commissioner
Theo.
F
B
And
commissioner
Walker,
are
you
interested
in
voting
on
commissioner
moradovic
as
Vice
chair
of
the
commission
excellent
great,
then
that
passes
unanimously?
It's
a
pleasure
to
have
you
on
board,
commissioner
moradovic
and
my
my
air.
My
my
troubles
here
calling
the
vote
has
made
me
realize
that
I
skipped
over
another
important
thing
at
the
beginning
of
this
meeting,
which
is
that
we
have
a
new
commissioner
on
the
commission.
Commissioner
Fuhrman,
would
you
like
to
introduce
yourself
briefly
to
the
rest
of
the
commission.
D
Yep,
my
name
is
Justin
Furman
and
I'm
really
really
happy
to
be
joining
you
all.
So,
thanks
for
having
me.
A
A
The
next
agenda
item
is
an
ordinance
to
vacate
a
portion
of
South
Walter,
Reed,
Drive
adjacent
to
Lots,
94.95,
Arlington,
Plateau,
being
part
of
the
property
known
as
the
Arlington
career
center
owned
by
Arlington
County
School
Board
816
South
Walter
Reed,
Drive,
Arlington,
Virginia,
RPC,
25,
0,
14-004
and
25014
010
with
conditions
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
staff.
Member
Mike
kolusky.
G
Thank
you,
Miss
obicoya,
good
evening
Commissioners.
My
name
is
Michael
haluski
I'm,
a
real
estate
specialist,
with
the
Department
of
Environmental,
Services
and
I'm,
also
I'm
joined
tonight
by
my
colleague,
Betsy
Herbst,
who
is
participating
virtually
she's,
also
a
real
estate
specialist,
with
the
Department
of
Environmental
Services
here
tonight
to
present
an
ordinance
of
vacation,
a
small
portion,
it's
about
131
square
feet
of
South
Walter,
Reed
Drive.
This
is
associated
with
the
Arlington
career
center
site,
you're,
probably
familiar
with
this.
G
This
is
a
use
permit
and
the
vacation
of
8th
Street
that
you
heard
back
and
at
your
main
meeting.
So
this
is
a
small
sliver.
It's
a
new
request
from
Arlington
Public
Schools.
This
is
an
additional
vacation
area
behind
the
back
of
the
sidewalk
along
the
frontage
of
Walter
Reed
to
help
facilitate
the
construction
of
the
new
Arlington
career
center.
G
G
G
This
particular
portion
of
South
Walter
Reed
Drive,
is
designated
as
a
type
c
arterial
Street
on
the
master
Transportation
plan.
Physically
the
area
that's
to
be
vacated.
It's
about
it's
a
triangle
at
its
base
is
only
three
feet.
Deep.
It's
about
80
88
feet
long,
it's
just
a
grassy
area
behind
the
back
of
sidewalk,
it's
not
being
used
for
any
public
Street
or
utilities
currently,
and
there
is
also
an
adjacent
area.
What
we'll
see
on
the
next
map
that
is
proposed
to
be
dedicated
to
the
county
by
APS?
G
So
this
is
a
little
small,
but
it's
a
very
small
area.
It's
131
square
foot
sliver
right
there
and
that
just
sort
of
brings
that
right-of-way
line
right
to
the
back
of
the
sidewalk,
and
then
this
is
the
area
that
APS
currently
owns
that
would
be
dedicated
in
fee
to
the
county.
G
And
here's
the
vicinity
map
that
shows
the
overall
Site
Area
and
and
this
small
little
sliver,
so
staff
recommends
to
the
Transportation
Commission
that
they
find
that
the
proposed
vacation
of
a
portion
of
South,
Walter,
Reed,
Drive
adjacent
to
Lots,
94.95
Arlington
plateau,
originally
Bingham
Road
and
South
Fillmore
Street,
located
between
7th
and
8th
Street
South,
is
consistent
with
the
master
Transportation
plan.
That
concludes
our
presentation,
but
miss
Terps
and
I
are
certainly
happy
to
address
any
questions
that
the
Commissioners
may
have.
C
B
Second
seconded
by
commissioner,
tell
me
any
discussion.
C
F
F
B
All
here,
all
right
with
that
it
passes
unanimously.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
As
always,
I
am
here
to
ask
for
the
commission's
endorsement
of
our
every
two
years
request
to
the
VDOT
Revenue
sharing
program.
I
was
here
in
May
to
give
you
a
preliminary
briefing
on
this
very
proposal
now
I'm
here
asking
for
the
commission's
formal
recommendation
to
the
County
Board
that
we
do
indeed
have
permission
to
submit
these
grants.
I
Requests.
I
should
say
so
just
some
quick
reminders
about
how
this
program
works.
This
is
a
VDOT
program
which
is
an
important
distinction
because
most
of
the
grants
we
apply
for
are
federal.
That
makes
projects
through
this
grant
a
little
bit
easier
to
to
work
through
the
process.
There's
you
know
no
inherent
nupa
requirement,
for
example,
this
is
for
FY
27
and
28.
That's
right,
27
and
28
we're
looking
at
some
some
out
years
here
they
do
like
to
program
these
these
monies
in
advance.
I
So
this
program
provides
a
50
50
funding
split
to
localities
for
road
projects.
We
provide
a
dollar
the
state
provides.
A
dollar
localities
can
apply
for
up
to
10
million
dollars
per
two-year
cycle,
but
rarely
receive
that
much
funding
per
you
know
actual
award.
Individual
individual
projects
cannot
receive
more
than
10
million
dollars
over
the
lifetime
of
that
project.
I
So
there's
some
caps
on
on
what
you
can
apply
for
the
state
as
I
said,
sort
of
envisions,
Revenue
sharing
as
a
road
building
project
program,
I
should
say:
Transit
isn't
eligible
bike
and
ped
projects
can
be
eligible
they're,
not
typically
what
VDOT
is
looking
for,
but
we
often
try
them
anyway,
so
sometimes
with
success.
I
Vdot
gives
top
priority
in
this
program
to
projects
that
have
already
won
Revenue
sharing,
Awards
and
previous
Cycles.
So
if
you
need
a
little
bit
more
money,
you
apply
again,
that's
a
high,
that's
their
highest
priority.
Second,
priority
goes
to
projects
that
accelerate
a
project.
That's
in
a
locality,
CIP
third
priority
goes
to
resurfacing
or
Rehabilitation
projects.
Fourth,
priority
goes
to
anything
else,
that's
eligible
virtually
never
do
they
actually
get
to
funding.
Third
or
fourth
priority
projects.
I
They
typically
fund
Priority
One
projects,
those
that
were
already
in
the
revenue
sharing
system
pretty
well
priority,
two
projects
very
iffy.
Sometimes
you
get
you
get
some
money.
Sometimes
you
don't
and
then,
as
I
said,
the
third
and
fourth
priorities
rarely
receive
any
funding
at
all.
Applications
are
due
October
2nd.
I
So
when
I
briefed
you
in
May
I
discussed
three
pre-applications.
That
staff
was
developing
at
the
time.
Just
to
remind
you,
those
three
pre-applications
were
Fort
Myer
Drive,
two-way
conversion
in
Roslyn,
the
North
Sycamore
Street
improvements
near
West,
East,
Falls,
Church,
metro
and
Arlington
Boulevard
Trail
segment
between
George
Mason
and
Glebe
Road.
On
the
south
side,
following
the
TC
briefing
in
may,
we
submitted
the
three
pre-applications
now
we're
preparing
the
three
formal
final
applications
or
wait
for
the
big
surprise,
the
big
unveiling
of
the
projects.
I
There
are
three
of
them:
they're,
the
Fort
Myer
Drive,
two-way
conversion,
the
North
Sycamore
Street
improvements
and
the
Arlington
Boulevard
Trail
between
George
Mason
and
Glebe
Road
I'll
be
happy
to
tell
you
just
a
little
bit
about
all
those
projects.
I
told
you
about
them
in
May,
but
I'll
be
happy
to
refresh
your
memories.
The
Fort
Myer
Drive
two-way
conversion
is
the
project
to
remove
the
tunnel
on
Fort
Myer
Drive
behind
Roslyn
Metro
make
that
street
at
grade
and
two-way.
I
This
project
did
receive
Revenue
sharing
funding
in
a
previous
cycle,
but
not
quite
up
to
the
maximum
10
million
allowed.
So
basically
we'd
like
to
go
ahead
and
submit
to
the
the
remaining
approximately
1.9
million.
That
would
take
us
up
to
that
maximum
10
million
for
the
lifetime
of
the
project.
So
that's
the
first
one.
Second,
one
North
Sycamore
Street
complete
Street
project
we'd
like
to
apply
for
about
two
and
a
half
million
dollars.
This
is
another
one
that
has
received
Revenue
sharing
money
in
the
past.
It
was
a
few
years
ago.
I
This
would
improve
the
bike
lanes
and
crosswalks
right
outside
East,
Falls,
Church,
metro
and
again
this
received
Revenue
sharing
funding
in
a
previous
cycle.
So
we
think
it's
got
a
pretty
good
chance
now.
The
third
project
that
Arlington
Boulevard
Trail
between
George
Mason
and
Glebe-
that's
a
new
project.
It's
not
already
in
the
revenue
sharing
system,
we're
asking
for
about
four
million
dollars
up
to
about
four
million
dollars
to
basically
install
a
new
Trail
on
the
south
side
of
Route
50
right
near
the
the
Arlington
Hall
Federal
Center.
I
So
obviously,
this
would
be
another
incremental
Improvement
to
the
to
the
County's
Trail
Network.
This
was
recommended
in
the
Arlington
Boulevard
Trail
feasibility
study
from
earlier
this
year
and
Arlington
Hall
is
receptive
to
it.
So
we
think
it's
a
good
opportunity
and
a
good
time
to
to
go
ahead
and
get
money
to
do
it
together.
The
three
projects
put
us
close
to
the
to
the
10
million
Max
allowed
per
cycle.
I
I
think
it's
about
more
than
eight
and
a
half
million
about
eight
and
a
half
million,
and
although
it's
not
quite
at
the
at
the
max
that
that
is
more
than
we
generally
receive
in
any
given
cycle,
I
would
I
would
anticipate.
We
have
a
pretty
good
chance
of
the
first
two
getting
funded
fully
in
that
third
one.
If
I
were
gonna,
guess
I
would
say:
they'd,
probably
partially
fund
it
just
knowing
the
history
of
the
program
and
how
much
money
they
tend
to
fund
things
with.
I
B
Great,
thank
you
very
much.
Mr
malaf.
Do
any
Commissioners.
Have
any
questions,
commissioner.
Hussein
go
ahead.
Yeah.
J
This
is
just
a
quick
more
of
a
clarification.
Really.
You
mentioned
that
the
revenue
sharing
does
not
include
Transit.
Do
you
mind
explaining
why
why
that
is
like
what
is
you
said?
It's
just
for
roads
and
not
Transit
I'm,
just
wondering
why
that
is.
I
You
know:
that's
that's
a
state
decision,
that's
just
the
way.
They've
defined
the
project,
it's
a
it's
a
VDOT
Pro.
Excuse
me
the
program,
not
the
project.
It's
a
VDOT
LED
program,
so
typically,
Transit
is
handled
by
drpt.
A
lot
of
the
multimodal
grants
that
that
the
state
of
Virginia
I
should
say
the
Commonwealth
of
Virginia
runs,
are
handled
through
not
VDOT
they're
handled
through
the
Virginia
office
of
Intermodal
boy.
I
can't
remember
the
exact
title
of
it.
I
mean
that's
a
little
embarrassing.
It's
anyway.
H
I
A
different
it's
a
different
office,
so
the
fact
that
this
is
handled
strictly
by
VDOT
means
that
it
is
strictly
following
vdot's
priorities
and
they
they
view
Transit
as
just
a
different
department.
So
that's
how
the
state
has
defined
this.
We
we
really
have
no
choice
but
to
follow
their
guidelines.
B
All
right,
great
I
think
these
yeah.
These
were
great
projects,
the
first
time
around
they're
great
projects
now
and
even
if
we
only
get
partial
funding
for
the
trail
that
puts
it
Priority
One
next
time
around.
If
we
have
to
go
in
again,
so
that
would
be
fantastic,
so
seeing
no
other
hands
online
or
in
person.
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
move.
B
K
L
B
Move
to
the
Transportation
Commission
recommended
that
the
County
Board
adopt
the
attached
resolution
authorizing
Arlington
County's
participation
in
vdot's,
FY,
27,
FY,
28,
Revenue,
sharing
program
applying
for
funding
for
the
Fort
Myer
Drive,
two-way
conversion,
North
Sycamore,
Street
improvements
and
Arlington
Boulevard
Trail,
South
side
project.
B
Seconded
by
commissioner
Locker
any
discussion
of
the
motion
seeing
none,
we
will
move
to
a
vote.
Commissioner
Coleman
aye,
commissioner
Fuhrman
aye,
commissioner
Hussein
aye
commission
tell
me
aye,
commissioner
Locker
aye
aye,
commissioner
Ludlow
aye,
commissioner
moradovic
aye,
commissioner
yerry
aye,
commissioner
Shannon
aye,
commissioner
Terry
aye,
commissioner
Theo
aye
and
I
too
will
vote
Yes
12
to
zero
unanimous.
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
malif.
A
J
K
Good
evening,
everyone
I'm
sorry,
you
guys
went
much
quicker
than
I
anticipated.
So
thank
you
for
your
brevity.
I'll
try
to
be
equally
as
brief.
If
I
can
but
I'm
Dave
Tarter
I'm,
an
attorney
with
tardin
of
the
law
and
I,
represent
the
developer
of
the
Bingham
Center
site
I'm,
going
to
give
you
a
brief
overview
of
the
project
and
turn
it
over
to
my
colleague,
Dan
Van
Pelt
who's
going
to
go
into
more
detail
about
the
transportation
aspects
of
the
project.
You're,
probably
familiar
with
the
site.
I
want
to
go
to
the
next
slide.
K
It's
in
Clarendon
Circle,
right
in
the
heart
of
Clarendon,
which
is
currently
has
the
Silver
Diner
site
and
the
beer
lot,
and
a
few
other
odds
and
end
buildings
that
you're
probably
familiar
with
it's
actually
part
of
a
fairly
complicated
consolidation
and
land
swap
to
come
out
with
the
Joyce
Motors
site,
which
you
saw
several
months
ago
and
our
site,
which
is
shown
in
yellow
it's
a
bit
challenging
site.
K
As
you
can
see,
it's
essentially
a
two
triangles
stuck
together,
which
is
presented
some
challenges
for
us
as
a
development
team,
but
we
think
we've
overcome
them
and
put
together
a
really
exciting
project.
Next
slide
from
Transportation
perspective.
This
project
is
kind
of
1950s
Suburbia
lots
of
asphalt,
lots
of
curb
cut,
not
that
much
sidewalk,
no
streetscape,
no
Street
trees
really
just
kind
of
what
you'd
expect
in
the
old
days
where
you
drive
across
the
street,
because
that
was
the
only
way
to
get
get
there
in
a
safe
fashion.
K
So,
let's
go
on
to
the
next
couple:
slides
we've
got
more
pictures
around
the
site,
you're-
probably
familiar
with
it,
but
it
is,
as
I
explained,
a
very
old-fashioned
car
Centric
asphalt,
Centric
site
that
we're
going
to
transform
I
think
into
a
very
exciting
place
from
a
transportation
perspective.
Next
slide,
one
more
so
one
thing
I
did
want
to
mention
is
because
you
probably
know
the
buildings
are
right
on
the
street
along
this
site.
It's
very
little
sidewalk,
so
to
meet
County
expectations
as
the
streetscape
sidewalk,
and
things
like
that.
K
A
pretty
significant
amount
of
our
project
is
being
actually
dedicated
or
used
for
transportation
purposes
already,
so
we're
losing
something
like
more
than
a
third
of
our
site
to
expanding
sidewalks,
adding
a
new
10th,
Road,
North
and
other
things
along
the
periphery
of
our
site,
which
makes
it
even
more
challenging
frankly
to
do
all
we're
doing
there.
But
after
several
years
of
work,
coven
and
other
things,
we
think
we're
ready
right
now.
K
So
this
is
an
aerial
view
from
10th
Street.
This
is
our
multi-family
residential
building
that
tapers
up
from
10th
Street
is
prescribed
in
the
sector
plan.
Let's
take
a
round,
let's
keep
going
so
again.
This
is
the
hotel
on
The
North
Ship.
This
would
be
where
you'll
be
looking
at
the
Silver
Diner.
This
is
going
to
be
a
hotel,
the
only
one
in
Clarendon,
very
high-end,
Hotel,
four-star
hotels,
what's
anticipated,
which
we
think
is
going
to
be
really
exciting
for
the
community
in
the
neighborhood
as
a
whole.
Next
slide.
K
This
is
the
tip,
the
other
tip,
the
intersection
of
Wilson
and
10th
Street.
Again,
a
multi-family
building
masonry
ground
floor
retail
around
the
periphery
of
the
site.
Next
slide.
K
This
is
our
ground
floor.
We
spent
an
awful
lot
of
time.
We
don't
have
four
sides.
We
have
three
sides,
there's
no
back
door
to
this
building,
and
so
we've
spent
many
many
months
working
with
staff
to
come
up
with
appropriate
locations
for
loading
dock,
and
things
like
that,
which,
frankly,
are
challenging,
as
I
said,
on
a
triangular
shape.
K
M
Yeah,
yeah
and
I
think
it's
okay
with
the
commission
I'm
just
going
to
stay
here
because
I'm
driving
the
presentation-
and
it
takes
all
my
coordination
and
all
my
skills
so
good
evening,
again:
Dan
Van
Pelt,
with
Grove
Slade.
M
We
did
the
transportation
review
and
have
been
working
with
the
team
on
this
project
and
throughout
its
Evolution
I.
Think
one
of
the
things
that's
great
about
this
site
is
it's
well
suited
for
walkability,
we're
very
close
to
the
Clarendon
Metro
station.
M
We
have
a
number
of
bus
routes,
many
of
the
sidewalks
be
kind
of
requirements,
but
what
this
Project's
going
to
be
doing
is
greatly
enhancing
the
character,
especially
of
this
block,
both
from
a
pedestrian
standpoint,
but
also
from
a
porosity
standpoint,
and
so
it's
going
to
be
a
great
attribute
to
the
to
the
neighborhood
gets
a
walk
score
even
today
with
of
93
and
I.
Think.
That's
also
because
there's
a
number
of
destinations,
retail
and
otherwise
they're
easily
walkable
from
the
site.
M
Moving
on
to
the
bike
facilities,
there
are
bike
Lanes
on
Fairfax,
Clarendon,
Wilson,
Kirkwood
they're,
also
shared
bike,
Lanes
on
Jackson
and
Monroe,
there's
at
least
three
capital
Bike
Share
stations
in
a
quarter
of
a
mile
and
there's
another
number
of
planned
bike
improvements
in
the
neighborhood
that
will
serve
the
site
and
and
the
greater
neighborhood.
M
Thank
you
now
going
to
the
site
level
and
speaking
of
bike
parking.
The
project
will
meet
the
counter's
requirements
for
long-term
and
short-term
bicycle
spaces.
The
residential
long-term
bike
spaces
will
be
located
on
the
ground
level.
With
access,
so
cyclists
will
residents
with
bikes
will
just
be
able
to
roll
right
in
off
of
the
alley,
which
is
a
really
nice
feature
to
have
the
hotel
bicycle
parking
will
be
on
the
P1
level,
below
the
hotel
that
will
be
accessed
from
10th
Road,
and
then
we
will
have
short-term
bike
spaces
around
the
site.
M
M
With
orange
and
silver
line
service
now
going
down
to
site
circulation,
access
to
the
parking
garage
it'll
be
from
one
one
point
on
the
new
North
South
alley
that
will
serve
the
entirety
of
the
parking
garage
underneath
of
both
of
these
buildings
for
access
to
the
Residential
Building
from
pedestrian
standpoint,
they'll
be
access
off
of
Wilson
Boulevard
and
10th
Street.
The
loading
access
will
be
off
of
the
new
alley
and
we
talked
about
the
ground
floor
bike
room
already
just
a
bit
ago
about
that.
M
We'll
have
access
right
off
of
the
alley
to
be
able
to
roll
right
in
the
primary
pedestrian
access
points
for
the
hotel,
along
with
primary
access
for
the
hotel.
The
hotel
itself
really
is
going
to
be
Wilson,
Boulevard
there'll
be
secondary
access
point
off
of
10th
Road
and
bike
working
again
will
be
accessed
off
of
10th
Road.
The
loading
has
been
moved
to
10th
road
and
it
will
now
occur
on
there
on
that
that
point
for
the
hotel
and
then
in
the
future.
M
We
don't
have
the
retail
program
fully
determined
at
this
point
in
time,
but
you
can
see
all
the
green
spaces
at
retail
and
there'll
be
access
to
those
retail
tenants
as
appropriate,
helping
activate
the
sides
of
the
project
I'm
moving
into
parking,
vehicular
parking,
0.7
spaces
per
dwelling
unit,
one
per
580
for
on
the
retail
and
the
hotel
will
be
parked
at
0.34
spaces
per
guest
room
there'll
be
13,
EV
spaces
delivered
with
the
project
at
the
very
beginning
and
then
there'll
be
48
spaces
that'll
be
made
easy
ready
and
those
are
shown
on.
M
M
We
have
the
street
sections
here:
we're
not
going
to
go
through
those
in
detail,
but
on
this
Slide
the
next
slide
and
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
about
those
Street
sections
and
I.
Think
we
have
Bowman
on
the
on
the
meeting
with
us
too
can
help
answer
any
questions
you
might
have
this
site
civil.
M
There
was
a
multimodal
transportation
assessment
that
was
performed
for
this
project.
We
looked
at
12
intersections
and
that
scope
was
determined
working
with
staff.
We
found
two
locations
where
there
were
mitigations
were
needed,
signal
timings
addressed
those
mitigations
and
we
think,
through
the
enhanced
site
design
that
will
be
delivered
with
this
project
and
the
implementation
of
a
translation
management
plan
that
will
also
mitigate
site,
but
it
impacts.
M
N
I
do
give
me
one
moment:
let
me
try
to
get
technology
in
the
room,
working,
correct.
N
Okay,
so
some
just
very
technical
details.
This
is
site
plan
467
and
at
three
3200
Wilson
Boulevard.
Tonight
there
are
two
elements
associated
with
this
hearing.
The
first
element
which
I'll
be
presenting
in
reverse
order,
is
the
vacation
elements
associated
with
existing
public
alleys
on
the
property,
and
the
second
is
the
overall
site
plan
which
was
well
described
by
the
applicant
earlier
I'm,
going
to
provide
some
additional
review
for
consideration.
N
This
is
the
this
is
a
good
image
of
the
site
location.
It's
basically
two-thirds
of
the
Triangular
site,
Bound
by
Wilson
Boulevard,
10th
Street
and
North
Irving
Street,
with
a
little
bit
of
Washington
Boulevard
to
the
very
North
tip
of
the
project.
The
south
east
corner
of
the
site
or
of
the
in
of
the
overall
block,
is
the
Joyce
motor
site
which
was
previously
approved.
N
So
these
two
projects
dovetail
to
add
a
number
of
Transportation
facilities
and
round
out
the
pedestrian
and
Street
improvements
around
the
entire
block,
along
with
providing
a
series
of
public
open
space
improvements
that
we'll
discuss
as
the
applicant
described.
There
are
two
main
Towers
above
a
unified
two
and
a
half
story
parking
garage.
The
North
Tower
is
the
hotel.
That's
proposed
to
10
stories
with
229
rooms,
a
0.35
parking
space
ratio
per
per
room,
there's
ground
floor,
retail,
principally
hotel,
but
also
Cafe
space
there
and
then
there's
Penthouse
amenity
space.
N
N
The
applicants
provide
a
nice
summary
of
the
ground
floor
uses,
but
I
think
it
is.
It
should
not
be
lost
that
a
triangular
site
with
two
triangular
buildings
does
make
for
interesting
ground
floor
layout.
They
have
done
it
very
well
in
many
cases,
underpinned
by
the
planning
efforts
of
the
sector
plan
that
was
recently
approved.
N
One
major
change
since
this
was
before
sprc
is
the
relocation
of
the
loading
dock,
which
was
previously
proposed
to
have
access
off
of
North
earthing
Irving
Street.
That
has
been
moved
around
the
corner
to
have
access
off
of
the
new
10th
Road
and
the
ground
floor.
Facade
along
North
Irving
has
been
the
transparency.
There
has
been
improved
since
the
last
sprc
meeting
generally
bringing
this
project
well
in
compliance
with
the
sector
plan
Additionally
the
South
Tower.
The
residential
tower
has
substantial
amounts
of
ground
floor
retail.
N
The
parking
for
the
project
is
provided
in
a
single
below
grade
garage
with
a
single
access
point
off
of
the
alley.
It
is
quite
interesting
shaped
and
effectively
the
hotel
will
have
88
parking
spaces
associated
with
the
project.
That's
a
0.35
parking
ratio.
Residential
parking
is
at
203
parking
spaces
where
a
0.7
parking
ratio
and
there
are
33
parking
spaces
associated
with
the
retail.
N
The
bike
parking
is
consistent
with
the
County's
standard,
providing
116
class
1
spaces
for
residents
in
the
residential
building
for
an
additional
four
spaces
to
support
the
retail
operations
at
the
ground
floor,
23,
bicycle
parking
spaces
in
the
G1
level,
the
garage
for
the
hotel
and
then
at
least
16
spaces
around
the
site
on
the
streetscape
I
think
the
plans
show
at
least
20
and
and
maybe
even
more
before,
we're
done
with
the
final
plans.
N
So
one
quick
going
into
some
of
the
elements
that
that
were
not
discussed
by
the
applicant
are
the
streetscape
and
Street
Design
Elements.
All
of
the
streetscape
streetscapes
proposed
are
consistent
with
the
Clarendon
sector
plan
recommendations
for
the
area,
one
of
The
Oddities
of
this
block
is
that,
in
order
to
achieve
both
Street
Urban
Tree
canopy
and
on-street
parking,
we
have
to
share
the
same
space
along
Wilson
Boulevard,
and
so
the
sector
plan
calls
out
for
the
provision
of
this.
N
So
there's
generally
a
19
foot
wide
streetscape
that
provides
both
tree
planting
and
on-street
parking
interspersed,
while
maintaining
a
minimum
of
a
12
foot
wide
or
a
12
foot
wide
sidewalk,
which
supports
a
four
foot
size
and
foot
wide,
clear
sidewalk.
So
there
can
be
additional
ground
floor
activation.
N
I'm
sorry
I
jumped
ahead,
that
was
for
Wilson
Boulevard
and
my
slide
is
for
10th.
10Th
has
we'll
have
new
Street
trees,
an
eight
foot
wide
clear
sidewalk
and
a
four
foot
shy
space.
N
Additionally,
North
Irving
Street
is
proposed
to
have
new
Street
trees,
a
six
foot
wide,
clear,
clear,
sidewalk
and
a
four
foot
shy
Zone
as
we
look
at
Wilson
Boulevard
as
I
just
discussed,
there's
a
19
foot
wide
streetscape
with
the
12
foot
wide
sidewalks
and
to
call
your
attention
to
something
that
we'll
talk
about
in
a
moment.
N
You'll
see
in
the
screen
in
these
Street
cross
sections
that
there's
about
six
feet
of
additional
space
that
is
not
being
forgotten
and
so
we'll
get
to
that
in
a
moment
on
the
sort
of
north
or
west
side
of
Wilson
Boulevard,
whatever
Direction,
you
want
to
call
that
and
then
finally,
the
new
10th
Road,
the
new
10th
Road
North,
is
going
to
provide
a
six
foot
wide,
clear,
sidewalk
and
room
for
Street
trees,
there's
generally
a
55-foot
building
separation
between
the
towers,
both
the
Joe's
Motors
Tower
and
the
residential
Tower
and
the
and
the
hotel
Tower
within
that
shared
private
alley.
N
There's
space
for
a
traveling
in
each
Direction
and
a
five
foot
wide
sidewalk
up
against
the
building
edges.
These.
It's
really
important
that
both
the
Joyce
motor
project
and
this
project
coordinate
won
this
and
in
doing
so
they
they
really
have
resulted
in
some
very
elegant,
Transportation
Solutions
that
has
freed
up
the
the
real
sort
of
pedestrian
spaces
along
Wilson,
Boulevard
and
10th
Street,
our
10th
Road
and
then
also
North
Irving.
To
be
a
a
place,
we
can
return
to
pedestrians
rather
than
Vehicles
as
part
of
the
plan.
N
There's
only
one
little
hiccup
right
now
that
that
staff
and
the
applicant
are
working
out
and
that's
the
materiality
of
10th
Road
north
throughout
the
process.
There's
been
a
discussion
of
of
maybe
a
voonor,
where
this
is
more
of
a
a
standard,
neighborhood
street,
with
two
travel
lanes
and
sidewalks
and
and
Street
trees.
N
Here,
that's
consistent
with
the
sector
plan
design,
but
the
the
materiality
of
10th
Street
is
going
to
be
elevated
with
a
concrete
surface
or
either
a
concrete
surface
or
a
paver
surface
staff
is
recommending
a
concrete
surface
because
of
the
the
utility
vaults
that
were
approved
associated
with
the
Joyce
Motors
project.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
those
two
projects
have
work
well
and
the
street
functions
well
with
a
uniform
material.
N
So
we're
recommending
a
concrete,
possibly
with
a
stamp
or
collard
finish,
that
we
can
work
out
in
the
in
the
post
approval
process.
But
this
will
be
a
very
people,
focus
space
with
a
nice
building
to
building
separation
and
the
associated
Street
trees
within
the
streetscape.
N
N
That
will
dovetail
with
Arlington
County's
Project
work
at
10th
and
Wilson
Boulevard,
which
plans
to
underground
those
those
area
utilities
there.
And
so
there
will
be
about
a
four
to
six
foot
widening
of
of
the
sidewalk
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
street
and
if
you're
I'm
sure
all
of
you
have
walked
this
at
some
point.
It
is
very
tight
and
very
unpleasant,
so
widening
the
sidewalk
here
and
removing
the
aerial
utilities
will
go
a
long
way
to
helping
transform
this
part
of
the
Clarendon
neighborhood.
N
One
of
the
elements
that
we'll
work
through
in
the
post
approval
process
is
we'll
want
to
explore
if
it's
possible
to
put
in
Street
trees
in
this
four
foot
zone,
so
maintain
a
an
eight
foot,
wide,
clear
sidewalk
and
a
four
foot
wide
planting
strip
that
may
not
be
possible
because
of
utility
conflicts.
So
we
we
haven't
required
that,
but
we
will
endeavor
with
the
applicant
to
explore
the
addition
of
Street
trees
within
the
streetscape.
N
One
last
element
of
the
community
benefits
package
is
the
open
space
at
the
end
of
North
Irving
Street.
Today,
Des
is
already
closed.
This
connection
of
North
Irving
streets
to
the
Clarendon
Circle
and
currently
has
a
buyer
retention
area
in
there
consistent
with
the
Clarendon
sector
plan.
This
project
will
go
through
a
community,
a
county-led
design
process
for
an
expanded
public
space
within
here,
and
the
applicant
agrees
to
build
out
the
resulting
design
with
with
the
project,
and
so
with
that.
N
That's
the
majority
of
the
project,
I'm
going
to
go
into
I,
hope
I
go
into
the
there.
We
go
the
vacations
portion
of
the
hearing.
Very
briefly.
There
are
two
sets
of
vacation
areas
that
are
proposed.
These
are
existing
alleys
to
serve
the
existing
buildings
on
the
site.
The
vacation
of
them
will
support
the
Redevelopment
of
the
site,
which
will
ultimately
deliver
the
new
streets
that
we've
talked
about
in
Con,
in
conformance
with
the
Clarendon
sector
plan
and
the
County's
Master
Transportation
plan.
N
And
with
that
in
mind,
I'm
not
going
to
read
this
because
I
will
not
get
it
right.
But
we
recommend
that
you
find
that
those
vacations
are
in
conformance
with
the
comprehensive
plan,
including
the
master
Transportation
plan.
And
then,
furthermore,
we
recommend
that
you
recommend
to
the
county
board
approval
of
the
site
plan
it
and
its
Associated
conditions.
B
All
right,
thank
you
very
much.
This
is
not
with
the
commission
Commissioners.
If
you
have
questions
here
at
the
beginning,
please
go
ahead
and
throw
your
hands
up,
whether
virtual
or
in
person
and
we'll
start
working
through
anything.
We
got
here
go
ahead,
commissioner,
Furman.
D
Yeah,
thank
you
for
the
the
presentation
one
question
I
had
was
on
the
newly
proposed
10th
Road
North.
Will
it
be
possible
to
take
left-hand,
turns
traveling
west
on
that
road
onto
Wilson
Boulevard,
or
will
that
be
a
right
turn
only.
D
K
Is
this
live
I
would
just
say
we
followed
the
guidance
of
the
county
and
the
sector
plan
in
terms
of
where
we
put
things
and
the
like
I
think
the
notion
was
that
this
wasn't
appropriate
place
for
bike
lanes
and
that
there
was
a
different
route
that
that
the
county
wanted
to
see,
and
so
that's
what
we
did.
That's
we
provided.
E
Yeah,
thank
you
yeah
you,
you
are
applying
for
a
lower
Park
parking
ratio
and
nothing,
that's
commendable,
but
the
the
0.7
ratio
at
a
in
a
place
that
has
a
walk
score
of
93.
Seven
minutes
walk
to
two
Metro
stations.
Pretty
much
everything
you
could
imagine
accomplishing
in
one
day
within
walking
distance
I
mean
seems
pretty
high,
especially
since
some
sites
think
the
record
is
0.3
or
0.39,
something
something
like
that.
E
I
mean
0.7
I'm
wondering
how
you
arrived
at
that
ratio
I'm
knowing
full
well
that
parking
does
cost
a
lot.
So
I'm
sure
you
have
your
your
logic
for
it.
It's
I
mean
it
is
a
cost
for
you
to
add
that.
K
Yeah,
so
it
is
a
fine
line
right.
Do
you
provide
enough?
Do
you
provide
too
much?
How
do
you
kind
of
find
that
middle
ground
I
believe
our
number
is
literally
almost
exactly
what
Joyce
Motors
provided
next
door
and
to
my
recollection,
hit
point
seven
as
well,
but
that's
that's
to
memory,
but
I
think
it.
We
want
to
make
sure
we
have
enough
parking.
K
The
residential
building
is
farther
away
from
the
Metro.
Then
you
have
to
sort
of
walk
the
full
length
of
the
site
to
get
to
the
metro
and
the
like,
and
so
I
think,
there's
some
consideration
to
that.
I
think
also
just
analysis,
the
market
and
what
the
developer.
My
client
here
feels
is
the
right
number
for
this
site.
I,
don't
know
if
there's
anything
you
want
to
add
Mr
Schultz.
L
It
it
really
is
a
incredibly
difficult
decision
as
a
developer,
because
these
parking
spaces
are
very
expensive
to
build
in
an
Ideal
World.
We
had
no
parking
spaces,
but
we'd
also,
then,
have
no
tenants
and
it's
difficult
to
come
up
with
them.
I,
don't
know
that
anybody
really
knows
what
the
right
number
is
covet
has
been
a
real
interesting
experience
for
us,
because
Metro
ridership
is
way
down
and
people
are
now
living
in
their
and
working
in
their
apartments
and
not
in
the
offices.
We
know.
L
So
if
we
could
we'd
do
less,
but
then
the
neighbors
who
we
have
pretty
good
relationships
with
they
don't
want
Park
cars
parking
on
the
streets
and
so
that
it's
just
an
amazing
Balancing
Act
and
just
we
all
know
you
never
have
perfect
information
when
you're
trying
to
make
the
right
decisions.
L
I
wish
I
had
that
I
wish.
I
could
tell
you
specifically,
so
we
kind
of
so
we
we
did
a
survey
of
what
our
competition
is
doing
and
basically
plugged
plugged
our
number
in
based
on
the
best
available
information.
We've
got
it's
a
very
expensive
decision.
It's
a
very
expensive
project,
we're
hoping
we'll
get
it
right.
That's
all
I
can
say,
I
mean
it's
not
it's
not
a
science.
It's
an
art
trying
to
get
these
numbers
right.
If
you
get
it
wrong,
it's
a
costly,
costly
mistake
so
and.
E
K
B
Awesome
just
I
wanted
to
piggyback
on
that
and
say
there
you
wouldn't
have
zero
tenants.
There
are
plenty
of
buildings
in
the
DC
area
that
have
zero
parking
and
still
have
tenants.
B
O
Not
so
much
a
question
but
I
do
want
to
I
appreciate
the
number
of
EV
spaces,
and
especially
the
number
of
EV
ready
spaces.
We're
constantly
harping
on.
Do
you
have
enough
EV
given
what's
coming
up
that
you're
building
that,
in
from
the
start,
is,
is
great
I'd
like
to
see
more
of
that
from
the
projects
that
come
before
us
so
you're
that
you
got
right
as
far
as
I'm
concerned.
So
thank
you.
P
Mission
back
to
this
slide
with
along
Wilson
Boulevard
in
the
six
foot
sidewalk
on
the
western
Northwestern
side,
could
you
just
explain
the
sequencing
of
of
the
road
work
that
will
happen
when
that
portion
of
the
sidewalk
with
the
undergrounding
and
all
of
the
other
changes
will
occur
in
in
conjunction
with
the
development.
N
Okay,
so
the
County's
project
is
slated
to
begin
next
fiscal
year,
so
20
the
beginning
of
fiscal
year,
20
4.,
no
25!
Thank
you,
and
so
what
is
what
we're
hoping
to
do
is
get
the
utilities
undergrounded
before
they
get
into
construction,
but
they
have
to
build
their
new
edge
of
the
street
on
the
opposite
side
before
that,
sidewalk
can
get
widened.
N
N
While
these
skies
are
let's
say
digging
the
hole
or
getting
into
further
permitting
and
whatnot
the
County's
undergrounded
the
utilities,
then
they
can
come
back
in
and
begin
the
construction
at
their
site
and
then
pull
the
curb
at
exist,
curb
Edge
back
and
establish
the
new
sidewalk
and
Street
wider
Street
width
in
a
temporary
phase
and
then
ultimately
build
the
wider
sidewalk
on
the
this.
The
opposite
side
of
the
street
was
that
track.
P
And
I
just
had
one
more
question
and
I
think
this
goes
for
all
of
the
all
of
the
streets,
but
just
keeping
The
Pedestrian
during
construction.
What
what
will
be
closed
during
construction?
So,
where
can
pedestrians
walk
during
on
which
side
just
trying
to
understand
that
is
in
several
of
these
projects
around
the
county?
You
end
up
having
to
walk
like
around
two
two
city
blocks
in
order
to
get
to
where
you're
going,
rather
than
going
directly
relax.
N
So
we
Endeavor
to
keep
as
much
of
the
sidewalk
open
as
possible,
while
ensuring
both
safety
for
the
people
building
the
building
and
the
pedestrians
I
wish
I
could
promise
you
that
I
had
a
absolute
firm
answer
on
this.
The
the
very
tight
nature
of
of
the
opposite
of
this
opposite
side
of
Wilson
Boulevard
I
would
not
be
surprised
if
we
have
to
close
that
sidewalk
for
at
least
the
demo
of
those
buildings,
but
we're
going
to
try
to
Endeavor
to
keep
everything
open.
N
So
the
the
county
and
both
construction
teams
will
have
to
do
some
very
extensive
and
in-depth
coordination
to
to
maintain
those
pedestrian
routes,
because
we
we
agree
there.
They
are
critical
in
this
area.
N
At
least
one
sidewalk
will
be
open
and
I
would
not
personally
like
that
one
sidewalk
to
be
the
one
we're
looking
at
here,
but
we
understand
the
challenges
here.
Okay,
thank
you.
B
Cool
I
have
what
I
think
are
a
bunch
of
very
quick
clarifying
questions.
10Th
Road
North
will
be
a
public
Street,
correct.
N
N
B
Gotcha
did
I
see
when
I
was
looking
at
the
parking
garage
plans
that
there
are
potentially
knockout
panels
to
join
this
garage
with
the
Joyce
Motors
project.
Yes,
okay,
thank
you.
There
is
an
existing
bus.
Stop
within
the
project
limits
on
Wilson
Boulevard.
Will
that
be
improved
as
part
of
this
streetscape.
G
N
I
I
I
I,
honestly
I
came
in
this
a
little
late,
so
I'm
gonna
have
to
ask
for
some
forgiveness.
No
worse,
my
understanding
of
the
plans.
Dudes
does
not
include
a
shelter,
but
it
does
include
a
full-length
boarding
area,
improved
Ada,
detectable
warning
areas
and
most
likely
a
a
concrete
pad
in
the
street
to
help
make
sure
that
they,
the
the
buses,
don't
push
up
the
concrete
push
up.
The
asphalt.
B
Great
and
then
I
will
finally,
I
will
beat
my
dead
horse
with
you
rob
did
the
county?
Consider
a
mid-block
crossing
of
Wilson
Boulevard
be
to
hear
it
well,
actually,
wouldn't
really
be
mid-block,
because
10th
road
is
coming
is
a
cross.
A
crosswalk
across
Wilson
Boulevard
at
10th
Road,
been
considered
by
the
county.
N
I
believe
it
has
been
considered
definitely
through
the
process.
I,
don't
think
that
you're.
This
is
the
first
time
this
has
been
raised
and
it's
I
think
part
of
this
is
seeing
what
ultimately
happens
on
the
other
side
of
of
this
site,
if
it,
if
and
when,
that
redevelops
and
there's
a
better
sort
of
Nexus
for
people
to
cross.
Otherwise
it
is
still
pretty
close
to
the
circle,
which
is
already
a
very
complicated
vehicular
set
of
movements,
so
not
as
part
of
this
project,
but
not
I.
O
Yeah
I'm
going
to
add
on
to
what
what
he
just
said.
Actually,
the
midbrok
crossing
I
think
it
is
in
the
Claritin
sector
Plan
update,
because
that
is
something
we
specifically
raised
and
because
of
that
I
think
it
was
put
in
there
across
the
street
you're
not
going
to
be
seeing
much
Redevelopment,
because
one
is
the
Dominion
substation
and
the
other
buildings
are
preserved
there.
They
they
will
not
be
redeveloped,
because
it's
part
of
other
developments
I
think
they
were
preserved
as
part
of
tdrs
and
and
they're
on
the
Stark.
O
The
the
register
for
up
for
the
county,
so
you're
not
really
going
to
be
seeing
Redevelopment
there
we
may
have
different
uses
and
it
may
allow
people
to
walk
through
the
block,
which
is
one
of
the
reasons
we
work
really
strongly,
urging
that
mid
block,
Crossing
and
I'm
pretty
sure
it
survived
into
the
Clarendon
sector.
Plan
update
the
at
least
the
provision
that
that
could
happen.
So
it's
this
isn't
the
first
time
it's
coming
up.
It
came
up
when
we
went
through
this
whole
process.
O
What
a
year
or
two
ago,
the
other
thing
changing
subjects.
This
is
going
to
be
another
thing.
You're
going
to
hear
from
me
constantly
about
is
both
having
a
bus,
shelter,
I,
really
don't
like
the
the
usage.
It
doesn't
justify
one.
This
is
a
chicken
egg
thing,
partly
people
don't
use
the
bus
because
there's
no
shelter.
O
This
is
a
very
dense
Corridor.
A
lot
more
people
are
going
to
be
living
here
because
it
isn't
just
this
project.
It's
also
the
all
the
other
projects
that
are
going
on
right
around
there
bus
you
should
has
to
go
up
just
because
the
number
of
people
there
that
aren't
there
today
so
I
would
want
to
almost
have
by
default.
When
we
improve
a
bus,
stop
it
have
a
shelter
added
to
it,
especially
in
this
Corridor,
but
you're
also
going
to
hear
about
pld
coming
up
Planet
Langston
Boulevard.
O
So
you
know
that's
my
editorial
comment
and
you'll
hear
from
this
and
you'll
hear
from
others
probably
about
this
going
forward
for
other
projects,
but
there
really
should
be
bus
shelters
that
should
be
the
default.
Thank
you.
F
Virtually
I
would
also
stress
the
need
for
the
bus,
shelter
on
Wilson
Boulevard
and
also
the
mid-block
crosswalk.
As
has
been
mentioned,
I
do
have
a
question
about
the
bus
stops
on
Wilson,
as
I
currently
are.
Where
will
they
be
relocated
to,
if,
at
all,
during
construction,
foreign.
N
Devices
which
which
one
to
unmute
I,
do
not
have
an
answer
for
your
where
it
would
be
relocated
to
I
suspect.
Given
the
level
of
construction
on
this
site
and
the
the
nature
of
some
of
this,
it
would
either
be
relocated
to
the
corner
the
the
corner
closest
to
Clarendon
Circle,
which
at
that
point
becomes
an
operational
question
of
it.
Should
it
be
there
or
should
people
cross
to
the
the
shelters
and
serve
and
stops
just
on
the
other
side?
N
H
F
Yes,
another
quick
question,
hopefully
quick
anyway
regarding
the
parking
underneath
the
residential
and
hotel,
taking
into
account
what
was
said
earlier
by
the
developers
that
the
0.7
and
the
0.35
they
don't
want
to
risk
going
any
lower
than
that
for
the
underground
parking
garage.
Is
it
would
it
be
technically
feasible
to
convert
part
of
those
parking
spaces
into
like
public
accessible
parking?
Is
there
would
there
be
anything
like
that?
F
Would
would
there
be
anything
technically
preventing
that
from
happening
in
the
future,
if
it
turns
out
that
that
is
excessive
parking
for
the
residents
and
for
the
users
of
the
hotel
to
turn
it
into
more
of
a
commercial
or
at
least
part
of
it,
into
a
commercial,
publicly
accessible
parking
garage.
N
So
I
the
site
plan
would
not
have
any
provisions
that
would
require
it
to
be
publicly
accessible.
So
it'd
have
to
come
down
to
a
business
decision
about
the
economics
of
renting
those
faces,
but
what
I
would
like
to?
Let's
just
encourage
the
applicant
and
and
form
the
commission,
the
process
between
now
and
construction.
N
There
is
still
time
and
if
the
applicant's
business
decisions
and
their
analysis
support
a
lower
parking
ratio
in
between
that
our
process
does
permit
a
new
County
Board
Amendment
to
the
project,
to
bring
it
forward
with
a
lower
ratio
and
the
past
track
record,
and
the
sentiments
of
the
condition
of
the
commission
would
suggest
that
that
might
be
something
supported
at
the
appropriate
time.
O
Across
the
street,
from
just
across
from
the
street
view,
the
Red
Top
Cab
site
the
new
residence
there
after
we
approve
after
the
county,
approved
the
site
plan
which
went
through
this
process
prior
to
construction.
They
petitioned
and
were
successful
in
being
granted
the
elimination
of
one
level
of
parking
under
that
residence.
They
went
back
and
redid
their
numbers
and
said
we
don't
need
that
much
anymore
and
they
one
entire
level,
was
eliminated
from
the
pros
from
the
project.
So.
L
There
is
president
again
I
can
tell
you
that
I
can
tell
you
that
we
have
on
Garfield
Park
right
down
10th
Street
from
here
we've
built
to
one
and
an
eighth.
We
found
that
we
do
have
excess
parking
and
we
do
make
that
parking
available
to
the
public.
So
the
answer
is
simple,
practical
matter.
If
it's
there,
we
want
to
fill
it,
and
our
first
priority,
of
course,
would
be
to
our
tenants
and
then
our
guests
at
the
hotel,
and
if
there
is
additional
parking
we
will
fill
it
as
we
have
done
it's.
L
B
B
Are
the
residential
main
floor
entrances
to
the
Residential
Building.
M
M
B
E
With
that,
with
that
entrance
right
on
Wilson,
will
there
be
any
any
mitigations
potentially
to
take
into
account
Uber's
waiting
out
there?
Clogging
up
the
road
like
I
can
I
could
see
that,
as
as
an
issue
of
people
coming
in
and
out
unloading
stuff,
you
know,
like
I
know
you
have
like
a
loading
Bay,
but
people
will
don't
always
want
to
set
the
time
or
or
to
come
in
through
the
wooden
Bay.
So
they'll
try
to
do
something
quickly
from
the
street.
L
E
The
residential
building
with
the
entrance
right
on
on
Wilson,
because
there's
not
a
place
for
like
a
car
to
pull
in
you
know,
there's
no
curb
cut
there,
which
I
think
is
a
good
thing,
but.
N
Will
be
cut
into
the
streetscape
and
those
should
support
just
the
uses
you
you
were
discussing
so.
E
It
is
going
to
be
just
designated
as
Caputo
or
or
actual
parking
spots.
N
So,
as
I
say
most
times,
what
we
do
in
the
site
plan
process
is
try
to
maximize
that
amount
of
curve
space
for
the
county
over
time
to
ensure
that
it's
best
managed
for
a
changing
environment.
So
I
think
that
it
would
be
pick
up
and
drop
off,
though
there
could
be
some
handicap
parking
or
or
sort
of
two-hour
parking
or
other
uses,
as
determined
by
the
county
over
time.
B
But
typically,
at
a
spot
like
that,
they
will
think
at
you
know,
15
minute
or
whatever
it
is
that
we
put
on
top
of
what
we
want
people
to
use
for
just
pick
up
and
drop
off
all
right,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
get
the
county
manager's
recommendation
on
the
floor
here
and
then
we
can
go
from
there.
So
to
kick
things
off.
B
O
B
B
O
B
Ed
I
think
we've
discussed
this
already.
I,
don't
have
a
whole
lot
to
say
about
it,
other
than
I
think
if
we
are
expecting,
if,
if
we
really
think
that
people
are
going
to
walk
out
of
that
residential
building
and
walk
all
the
way
down
to
Clarendon
Circle
in
order
to
cross
on
the
crosswalk
in
order
to
get
to
Northside
Social,
you
haven't
seen
people
in
Clarendon
or
really
anywhere
I.
Just
think.
It's
not
realistic
and
I
think
we're
going
to
see
a
big
uptick
in
jaywalking.
B
If
we
don't
make
some
additional
provision
for
people
to
safely
cross
Wilson
Boulevard
in
this
area,
and
we
don't
get
a
whole
lot
of
opportunities
to
do
it
because,
as
commissioner
Lynn
tell
me,
said,
nothing's
really
going
to
change
across
the
street
unless
we
do
it,
because
it's
two
two
historic
buildings
and
a
Dominion
substation,
so
I
just
want
to
keep
that
on
the
County's
radar
as
we
go
forward.
Hence
the
motion:
is
there
any
other
discussion
of
the
motion?
Oh
wait.
B
B
Is
the
applicant
wanting
to
say
something
in
response
to
this?
It's
not
really
aimed
at
you.
It's
aimed
at
the
county.
L
Oh
yeah,
are
you
opening
to
me
I
would
say,
we'd
be
more
more
than
welcome
to
open
that
discussion
to
stat,
but
I
also
think
it's
a
good
idea.
B
Thank
you
so
much
I
appreciate
your
support.
What
were
you
saying?
Mr
Gibson?
Yes,
my
motion
was
seconded
by
commissioner
Lance
Army,
all
right.
So
at
this
point
we
will
vote
unless
somebody
else
has
anything
to
say
on
the
motion
to
amend
and
then
we
will
have
presumably
an
amended
motion
upon
which
to
vote.
So
this
is
solely
on
my
motion
to
add
the
bit
about
the
10th
road
crossing
of
Wilson
Boulevard
to
the
main
motion,
commissioner
Coleman.
B
Furman
aye
commissioner
Hussein
aye
commissioner
land
tell
me,
commissioner
Locker
aye
commissioner
Ludlow
hi
commissioner
moradovic
aye,
commissioner
Yuri
aye,
commissioner
Shannon
aye,
commissioner
Terry
aye,
commissioner
Theo
aye
and
I
too
will
vote
Yes.
So
now
we
have
the
county
manager's
recommendation
as
amended
by
the
motion
that
we
just
adopted.
12-0.
B
Is
there
any
discussion
on
this
motion
as
amended,
seeing
none?
We
will
go
to
a
vote.
Commissioner
Coleman
I,
commissioner
Fuhrman
aye,
commissioner
Hussein
aye,
commissioner
land
tell
me
aye,
commissioner
Locker
aye,
commissioner
Ludlow
commissioner
moravic
aye,
commissioner
Yuri
aye,
commissioner
Shannon
aye,
commissioner
Terry
aye,
commissioner
Theo.
F
B
L
Would
like
to
say,
I've
been
doing
this
in
front
of
the
county
since
about
1980,
and
these
projects
are
always
challenging,
but
I
genuinely
believe
they
always
are
better
because
of
the
citizens
participation.
So
thank
you
all
up
there
for
spending
your
time
and
being
your
commitment
to
the
community.
So
many
thanks
thank.
B
Q
Hi
everyone
I,
don't
think
Natasha
has
had
the
opportunity
to
join
us,
yet
she's
double
booked
in
public
meetings
this
evening
on
linkston
Boulevard,
so
I
am
going
to
introduce
Ryan.
Who
is
our
consultant
with
AECOM
who's
been
the
lead,
for
you
know
a
lot
of
the
work
if
you've
been
to
a
public
meeting.
You've
probably
seen
Ryan
before
so
I
am
going
to
hand
it
off
to
Ryan
to
give
the
presentation.
R
All
right
can
everyone
see
you,
okay,
looks
great.
Thank
you
so
good
evening,
we're
going
to
kind
of
walk
through
a
series
of
slides
that
reintroduce
this
planning
effort
to
you
and
talk
about
how
we
got
to
where
we
are
today
and
some
of
the
the
high
level
overview
of
the
transportation
recommendations
that
are
in
the
draft
plan.
R
So,
as
you
will
remember,
this
planning
process
the
this
portion
of
it
began
of
in
2019
and
over
a
series
of
stages
and
with
significant
public
input
along
the
way,
we've
come
to
be
able
to
publish
a
draft
plan
earlier
this
summer.
Moving
towards
the
final
plan
and
adoption
later
this
year,
there
was
once
for
that
draft
plan
was
put
forward
in
July.
There
was
a
significant
online
engagement
response
to
it
that
were
being
folded
into
the
plan.
R
As
we
speak
draft
two
that
request
to
advertise
is
being
prepared
this
month.
There
are
other
commission
briefings
happening
this
month
as
well,
some
of
which
this
week
and
the
idea
is
for
the
RTA
for
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
County
Board
hearings
in
October,
with
adoption
in
November
the
vision
which
was
crafted
through
that
public
engagement
is
To,
Boldly
plan
for
people
and
power
a
place
by
2050.,
with
a
quarter
becoming
resilient,
renewable
and
re-energized.
R
Arlington's
population
overall
is
less
racially
diverse
and
younger
more
affluent
than
the
larger
Washington
DC
region,
and
within
that
the
the
Langston
Boulevard
Corridor
has
a
lower
percentage
of
residents
of
color
it's
more
affluent
and
it's
slightly
older
than
the
county
as
a
whole.
R
The
built
environment
for
the
corridor
is
diverse
along
the
five
and
a
half
miles.
It's
primarily
characterized,
though,
by
low-rise
commercial
uses,
large
surface
level,
parking,
lots
and
pockets
of
multi-family
and
residential
projects
along
the
way,
surrounded
by
lower
density,
residential
housing.
R
For
many
cases,
decades
old
and
lack
the
energy
efficient
features
or
extensive
impervious
coverage
that
we
would
like
to
change.
The
corridor
does
lack
the
mixed
use,
development
necessary
to
create
a
walkable,
Main,
Street
environment
and
the
current
housing
mix
provides
limited
opportunities
for
lower
middle
income,
households
to
live
or
stay
the
recent
buy
right
and
use
permit.
Development
has
resulted
in
limited
to
no
pedestrian
friendly
improvements
and
once
one
of
the
main
reasons
we
think
this
plan
is
so
important
along
the
corridor.
R
There
are
many
different
types
or
many
different
cross-sections
for
Langston
Boulevard
from
west
to
east.
It
is
highly
car
oriented,
as
we've
said,
but
that
takes
different
forms.
In
almost
all
cases,
there
are
at
least
two
lanes
in
each
Direction,
but
there
are
very
few
Street
trees
in
The,
Pedestrian
environment
is
narrow
and
immediately
adjacent
to
that
roadway.
At
the
farther
east
you
get
the
more
and
more
like
an
expressway.
Actually
Langston
Boulevard
gets
and
there
are
significant
other
challenges
regarding
flooding
and
other
issues
that
need
to
be
addressed
as
well.
R
You
kind
of
get
a
sense
in
these
images
of
some
of
the
challenges
from
a
pedestrianization
standpoint
or
from
a
bicycling
standpoint,
but
we
also
have
great
models
to
learn
from
such
as
Westmoreland
Street
as
well,
where
there's
there
are
planned
areas
where
Redevelopment
has
occurred
and
brings
buildings
closer
to
the
street,
wider
sidewalks,
healthy
Street
tree
canopy
and
the
ability
for
activated
uses
like
outdoor
eating
areas
and
Street
trees.
So
the
corridor
has
challenges,
but
it
also
has
examples
to
look
to
within
it
for
the
future.
R
And
as
mentioned
earlier,
there's
significant
flood
related
resilience
challenges
along
the
court
or
Langston
Boulevard
itself
in
many
cases,
runs
along
the
ridge
line.
So
in
those
cases,
there's
the
opportunity
to
slow
water
down
and
detain
it
farther
up
in
the
Watershed
and
making
things
safer
for
Downstream
residents,
there's
also
opportunities
where
drainage
crosses
Langston
Boulevard,
to
provide
for
a
series
of
Overland
relief
corridors
and
places
for
that
water
to
move
safely.
R
So
also
quite
important
to
think
about
the
potential
for
Change
and
some
of
the
challenges
that
come
from
maintaining
the
status
quo,
such
as
the
expansion
of
those
impervious
surfaces,
an
increased
Downstream
flooding,
the
fragmented
streetscape
and
the
portions
of
the
corridor
that
could
remain
unsafe
for
pedestrians
impacts
or
the
hindrance
to
new
housing,
Supply
and,
of
course,
greater
costs
and
more
time
needed
fewer
strategic
public
private
partnership
opportunities
to
attain
that
stormwater
detention.
R
R
There
are
also
a
combination
of
design,
principles
and
guidelines
in
the
draft
plan
that
provide
high
level
guidance
for
new
developments
and
around
promoting
biophilia
social
connections,
Place
making
and
neighborhood
identity,
and
then
there's
the
guidelines
that
go
with
them
and
they
determine
how
we
can
apply
those
design
principles
to
achieve
recommendations.
And
so
these
are
guidance
for
both
the
people
who
are
doing
the
creating
the
applicants.
The
plans,
the
landowners
in
the
future,
but
also
to
Future
County
staff
in
responding
to
those
applications.
R
Very
important
is
the
key
goals
that
were
derived
through
consultation
with
the
community
throughout
that
engagement
process.
All
of
and
all
the
recommendations
that
are
in
the
draft
plan
are
kind
of
in
service
of
transforming
Langston
Boulevard
into
a
more
of
a
complete
Street,
connecting
the
surrounding
neighborhood
areas
to
the
boulevard
to
that
Main,
Street
and
increasing
Transit
use,
and
this
goal
informed
the
transit
policies
and
recommendations
throughout
the
plan
and
we're
going
to
kind
of
talk
through
that
in
Greater.
R
Specifics
in
the
next
few
slides
So
within
the
plan,
the
the
transportation
policies
are
broken
down
into
sections
or
that
relate
to
the
transportation,
Network,
the
complete
streets,
goals,
pedestrian
and
bicycle
facilities,
Transit
and
parking
Within
These
sections.
There
are
policies
for
creating
those
complete
streets,
including
dedicated
facilities
for
pedestrians
and
bicyclists,
separate
from
the
roadway
and
the
policies
speak
to
expanding
the
bicycle,
Network,
improving
that
circulation
and
safety
for
all
modes
and
studying
some
of
the
complex
intersections
that
we
have
enhancing
Transit
on
the
corridor
in
several
ways
and
promoting
varying
parking
strategies.
R
The
plan
also
identifies
several
strategic
actions
and
strategies
necessary
to
to
achieve
the
vision
and
the
policies
that
are
laid
out.
Many
strategies
are
going
to
involve
close
coordination
with
VDOT
as
they
do
on
Langston
Boulevard
and
many
strategies
are
going
to
involve
other
County
agency,
property
owners
and
again
VDOT
for
implementation.
R
There
are
a
series
of
corridor-wide
and
neighborhood
specific
Transportation
Network
Maps
throughout
the
plan,
and
they
provide
a
framework
for
where
new
investments
in
the
corridor
are
needed
to
enhance
safety,
mobility
and
access
for
pedestrians,
Transit,
Riders
and
drivers,
and
these
recommendations
are
identified
through
technical
analysis
that
we
did
back
when
we
were
doing
a
preliminary
concept.
Plan
process
and
they've
been
refined
based
on
community
input
and
staff
review,
and
so
the
more
details
on
these
are
found
in
the
plan
and
in
the
next
few
slides.
R
The
County
May
initiate
some
of
these
intersection
studies
at
locations
unlikely
to
see
private
investment
as
well.
Streets
are
included
in
each
area
to
enhance
circulation
and
access
for
pedestrians,
cyclists
and
drivers,
and
these
locations
are
included
in
each
area
map
but
will
be
designed
and
finalized
through
site
plan
applications.
R
So
in
some
cases,
you'll
see
new
connections
being
made,
but
it
will
be
up
to
those
applicants
and
landowners
to
suggest
that
the
specific
routing
for
those
streets
so,
for
example,
in
area
two
we're
looking
at
here,
a
new
grid
is
most
crucial
on
the
north
side
of
Langston
Boulevard
recommended
recommended
between
North
Jefferson
Street,
North
Greenbrier
and
between
North
Dickerson,
Street
and
North
Culpepper.
These
connections
allow
for
pedestrian
cyclists
and
drivers
to
cross
North
Harrison
Street
and
avoid
the
key
intersection
there.
R
Let's
see
Langston
Boulevard
from
North
Sycamore
Street
to
North
Lexington
Street
is
limited
right-of-way
and
is
not
planned
for
redevelopment
in
the
same
way
that
the
remainder
of
the
street
is
so
considering.
This
bicycle
facilities
are
not
recommended
for
this
Corridor.
In
those
cases
we
focused
on
bicycle
improvements
in
the
parallel
Network
on
26th
and
22nd.
Now,
east
of
North
Lexington
Street.
The
right
of
way
is
similarly
limited.
However,
the
land
use
recommendations
involve
significant
Redevelopment,
where
we
have
the
opportunity
for
those
recommendations
to
incorporate
bicycle
facilities
along
the
corridor,
but
the
the
corridor.
R
The
plan
does
recognize
that
additional
space
will
be
needed
and
so
there's
a
series
of
setbacks.
Associated
along
the
right-of-way,
in
order
to
facilitate
The
Pedestrian
space
and
the
separated
bicycle
facilities.
R
The
streets
that
are
located
here
are
that
are
most
critical
or,
and
the
expansion
is
east
of
North
Woodstock
Street,
with
the
plane
adding
new
East-West
streets
in
this
multi-family
area,
where
the
large
blocks
exist
to
improve
access
to
the
planned
and
existing
activity
hubs
at
the
Heights
and
in
Cherrydale
respectively,
and
to
minimize
local
traffic
directly
feeding
on
a
Cherry
Hill
Road
and
Langston
Boulevard
West
of
Woodrow
Street,
isn't
recommended
to
study
whether
a
segment
of
Cherry
Hill
Road
can
be
closed
to
create
a
public
Plaza
and
a
gathering
space
that's
been
requested,
and
this
closure
would
need
to
be
analyzed
with
any
of
the
potential
modifications
made
to
the
intersection
at
Old,
Dominion
drive
and
Langston
Boulevard.
R
The
land
use
and
the
right-of-way
context
changes
significantly
throughout
area
three,
and
there
are
four
cross-sections
recommended
based
on
that
in
this
area
alone,
that
all
adapt
to
specific
conditions,
north
and
south
of
the
street,
but
they
all
include
dedicated
space
for
bicyclists
from
North
Glebe
de
lorcum,
there's
Lane
there.
There
is
there's
enough
development
potential
to
expand
the
right-of-way,
to
provide
those
facilities
and
from
lorcum
to
military
there's
potential
to
reallocate
existing
right-of-way
between
the
curves
to
accommodate
dedicated
bike
facilities.
R
R
Through
this
area
area,
five
has
a
significant
number
of
cul-de-sacs
in
a
way
that
mean
that
people
cannot
move
East-West
without
coming
all
the
way
out
to
Langston
Boulevard
and,
from
the
very
beginning,
there's
been
an
intent
to
find
ways
to
connect
between
those
streets
for
pedestrians,
bicyclists
and
motorists,
and
its
most
important
between
spout
or
Spout,
Run
Parkway
and
North
Highlands,
providing
an
alternative
route
to
access,
Langston,
Boulevard
and
South
and
Spout
Run
in
area
five
West.
There
is
a
significant
right
away:
Along
Langston
Boulevard
to
provide
enhanced
bicycle
Lanes
without
the
need.
R
The
need
for
redevelopment
and
the
conversion
of
the
cross
section
to
include
those
enhanced
bike.
Lanes
in
place
of
vehicles
would
require
definitely
some
significant
Transportation
analysis
along
with
bdot
and
following
the
feedback
that
we
heard
from
the
community.
In
the
most
recent
rounds
of
Engagement,
the
intersections
of
North,
Quinn,
Street
and
North
Oak
Street
will
be
added
to
the
plan
for
future
analysis.
R
And
and
lastly,
the
design
guidelines
in
the
draft
plan
are
most
helpful
for
understanding
the
kind
of
character
to
be
created
along
the
streetscapes
and
different
ways
that
each
of
those
streetscapes
can
work
dimensionally
and
how
the
separation
of
of
different
circulation
modes
can
work,
and
that's
just
in
very
specific
sections
of
Langston
Boulevard
and
in
the
cross
streets.
And
then
there
are
also
guidance
for
how
to
handle
the
transformation
of
some
of
the
blocks
to
become
more
walkable.
R
And
that's
both
where
the
architecture
where
new
buildings
can
be
located,
but
also
how
curb
Cuts,
can
be
reduced
to
create
a
more
cohesive
streetscape
and
how
parking
can
be
oriented.
Even
in
cases
where
there's
not
wholesale
Redevelopment.
How
parking
can
be
at
the
surface
can
be
articulated
in
a
way
that
still
maintains
a
pedestrian-oriented
streetscape.
S
All
right,
can
you
hear
me
sure.
B
S
Okay
hi,
so
my
name
is
Jason
Schwartz
and
I
live
15
minutes,
walk
to
Langston,
Boulevard
and
I'm
just
going
to
talk
about
area
five,
because
I
think
it's
really
important
to
consider
the
context
of
which
area
5
is
in
so
first
of
all
area.
Five
is,
you
know
really
centrally
located
to
the
Roslyn
balston
Corridor?
It's
practically.
S
S
So
it's
really
really
important
that
the
transportation
and
context
of
this
area,
especially
in
you
know
the
North
Highland
section,
which
is
you
know,
eight
minutes,
walk
the
Air
Force
site
is
eight
minutes,
walk
to
Roslyn
station
that
this
area
really
be
tailored
to
this
I
mean
they're
gonna,
be
dropping
in
billions
of
dollars
of
tunnel
boring
and
station
expansion.
So
it's
very
important
to
keep
that
context.
S
The
second
thing
is
to
understand
that
the
traffic
along
Langston
on
this
Corridor
in
area
five
has
been
it's
at
the
lowest
point.
It's
ever
been
in
in
history,
as
I
submitted
in
the
just
quick
slides
that
I
sent
in
you
know
the
traffic
is
below
1975
levels,
and
that
was
pre-covered
and
post
covet.
It's
even
lower.
So
definitely
a
huge
Lane
reduction
is
definitely
warranted
and
need
to
make
sure
that
micro
Mobility
is
incorporated
into
this
area,
especially
in
relation
to
the
Metro
stations.
S
I
mean
this
is
not
1975
where
there
was
no
such
thing
as
electric
scooters
or
other
micro
Mobility.
So,
especially
where
there's
a
lot
of
the
highest
intensity
development,
there
needs
to
be
safe
corridors
for
people
to
access
the
metro
and
then
hop
on
a
bike
share,
or
you
know,
get
on
a
scooter
or
whatever
to
make
their
last.
You
know
half
mile
trip
to
access
where
the
high
density
the
buildings
are
going
to
be
on
Kirkwood.
S
So
it's
very
very
important
that
we
have
that
north
south
connection
to
really
integrate
the
quarter.
Because
again
this
is
a
prime
Tod
Metro.
It
should
be
treated
as
a
Metro
border
because
it
is
practically
right
there.
You
look
at
DC
with
what
they're
doing
at
Buzzard
point.
That
is
further
away
from
the
Metro
than
than
this
section
is,
and
yet
they're
doing
much
more
intensive
development.
S
So
there's
a
lot
more
room
for
growth
here
need
to
consider
ramada's
billions
and
billions
of
dollars
of
investment
and
make
sure
that
the
transportation
feeds
in
and
matches
that
investment
that
we're
that
is
coming
for
the
region
over
the
next
20
30
40
50
years.
So
that's
all
I
have
thank
you.
J
R
Okay-
and
you
said
I
think
it
was
like
25.
yeah
page.
T
Five
West
congratulations
to
the
new
member
of
the
board
and
and
congratulations
to
those
who
got
sort
of
promotions,
I
guess
and
thanks
for
volunteering,
your
service
I
know
it's
the
pay.
Isn't
that
much?
T
Is
it
okay
I'd
like
to
talk
about
this
there's
a
lot
of
things
to
like
about
the
Langston
Boulevard
plan,
including
the
improved
walkway
and
path
along
the
Langston
Boulevard,
but
one
of
the
things
that
really
is
bothering
a
lot
of
people
is
that
that
new
cross
town,
through
way
that
that
you
can
see
at
the
top
of
that
football
shape
thing
there.
T
That
would
take
about
five
acres
of
concrete
or
asphalt
to
cover
that
four
or
five
acres,
depending
on
which
which
of
these
new
East-West
things
you're
counting
there,
and
that's
that's
about
four
or
five
times
the
size
of
the
park
that
we
have
in
that
area.
There
are
3
100
people
living
there
and
we
don't
need
another
five
acres
of
asphalt
there.
We
need
some
more
parks.
T
This
has
been
an
issue
all
of
the
the
questionnaires
and
input
that
we've
had
in
the
past.
There's
been
a
lot
of
questions
about
where
you
want
to
bike
lane
here,
the
bike
lane
there
on
each
block
and
so
forth,
never
any
question
whether
we
want
a
new
Thruway
through
this
part
of
the
the
neighborhood
here
and
I
live
near.
T
Mom's
there
and
yes,
we
could
use
another
bike
path
and
some
pedestrian
areas
through
there,
but
we
don't
need
another
road.
I
can
walk
from
one
end
to
the
other
in
about
five
minutes.
So
you
know,
one
of
the
reasons
that
was
given
in
the
latest
plan
was
that
people
that
that
might
be
in
an
activity
over
at
the
new
land
Village
shopping
center
might
want
to
go
over
to
drive
over
to
the
park
but
drive
over
to
the
park.
There's
no
parking
there.
T
T
B
O
I
am,
in
addition
to
be
a
transportation
commissioner,
I'm
also
president
of
the
Langston
Boulevard
Alliance.
So
this
is
something
that
the
alliance
has
been
working
with:
the
county
and
the
stakeholders
up
and
down
the
corridor
for
the
past
10
years.
I
am
here
tonight
as
a
transportation.
Commissioner.
Any
comments
that
I
make
are
my
personal
comments
as
a
commissioner
and
they
may
or
may
not
align
with
the
views
of
the
Langston
Boulevard
Alliance.
O
The
alliance
is
preparing
written
comments
which
will
be
circulated
to
all
the
county
commissions,
the
County
board
members
and
the
neighborhood
associations
and
other
stakeholders
in
the
coming
weeks.
That
said
as
a
want
to
read
and
I
have
checked
with
the
county
attorney,
this
is
not
a
conflict
of
interest.
So
again,
my
opinions
tonight
are
my
own.
Thank
you.
B
All
right,
great
time
to
to
get
I
I
have
an
entire
page
of
questions
for
staff,
so
I'm
gonna
jump
right
in,
but
other
Commissioners
feel
free
to
throw
your
hands
up
and
I
will
bounce
around
so
that
I,
don't
monopolize
a
bunch
of
time.
B
I
think
the
one
of
the
biggest
opportunities
here
is,
of
course,
the
actual
transformation
of
Langston
Boulevard,
the
roadway
itself
and
I.
Think
it's
one
of
the
you
know
one
of
the
greatest
possible
Community
benefits
of
the
plan.
My
concern
is,
whether
is
is
is:
can
we
get
there?
Is
it
achievable?
How
do
we
get
from
where
we
are
today
through
the
plan
to
to
a
rebuilt,
Langston
Boulevard?
B
You
know
at
least
from
Lexington
East,
even
if
not
west
of
Lexington,
so
you
know
I
I
think
it
will
be
very
straightforward
to
get
additional
right-of-way
from
some.
You
know
major
developments
and
the
nodes
that
are
outlined
in
this
plan,
but
I
am
very
interested
in
the
consultant
and
staff's
view
on
the
feasibility
of
actually
achieving
a
rebuild
Langston
Boulevard.
You
know
at
least
from
Lexington
East,
if
not
from
end
to
end,
given
maybe
less
likely
Redevelopment
in
other
portions
of
the
corridor.
Q
I'll
I'll
take
that
one
so
two-part
answer
from
the
for
the
segment
area.
Five.
We
feel
that
we
can
as
County
the
county,
come
in
and
do
a
capital
project
and
build
that
segment.
It
will
obviously
take
a
significant
amount
of
Transportation
analysis
in
coordination
with
VDOT
a
significant
amount
of
capital
investment
from
the
county
in
order
to
transform
from
about
Spot
Run
Parkway
to
beach
that
the
three
lanes
in
each
direction
to
the
two
vehicular
travel
Lanes
in
each
Direction,
with
enhanced
facilities
and
wide
sidewalks
for
the
rest
of
the
corridor.
Q
There's
there's
the
opportunity
from
about
lorcum
Lane,
to
Glebe
military
military,
to
possibly
reallocate
the
right-of-way
curb
to
curb
by
narrowing
the
travel
Lanes
and
putting
in
bike
Lanes
again
we'll
need
to
coordinate
with
VDOT
the
the
concrete
median
would
need
to
be
removed.
Q
You
would
have
to
do
kind
of
a
mild
reconstruction
of
the
roadway
there
in
order
to
fix
to
to
fit
the
bike
Lanes
in
for
the
rest
of
the
corridor,
though,
we
do
have
to
have
Redevelopment
happen
and
it
will
take
time
and
it
is
a
long-term
vision
for
the
Redevelopment
of
the
corridor,
and
it's
not
something
that
we
anticipate
will
be
done
in
the
next
four
or
five
years.
We
might
get
blocked,
like
long
block
faces
for
like
three
or
four
blocks,
where
we're
gonna
able
be
able
to
implement
the
cross-sections.
Q
B
Great,
thank
you.
That's
very
helpful.
I
think
my
concern
is
really
in
some
of
these
stretches
between
nodes
west
of
Glebe.
You
know
there's
kind
of
a
node
at
Harrison
Street,
there's
a
node
I
think
at
Glebe,
but
in
the
interim
the
the
proposed
maximum
Heights
are
are
relatively
low.
B
What
what
do
we
think
is
the
actual
economic
feasibility
of
somebody
deciding
to
redevelop
under
the
plan
given
the
limited
height
available
to
them
and
that
they
would
need
to
provide
land
to
the
county
to
to
potentially
rebuild
Langston
Boulevard
in
order
to
get
just
that
small
amount
of
additional
height
I'll.
R
R
Those
lots
are
mostly
clustered
near
the
Harrison
intersection,
so
there's
a
sort
of
a
lot
of
smaller
properties
which
do
hinder
the
ability
to
put
together
a
coherent,
streetscape
transformation.
So
the
trick
will
be
how
many
Lots
can
be
aggregated
together
to
create
a
project
that
has
the
right
economic
viability.
There
have
been
quite
a
few
discussions
with
neighborhoods
on
both
sides
of
Langston
about
those
Heights.
They
have.
R
It's
been
a
particular
location
of
where
Heights
are
of
great
interest,
they're
an
important
topic
across
all
of
Langston
Boulevard,
but
in
certain
places
it's
very
important
to
the
neighborhoods.
That
is
certainly
one
of
them
in
area
two
there.
So
the
question
of
economic
feasibility
is
really
a
question
of
how
many
Lots
can
we
realistically
aggregate
at
one
time
in
order
to
create
a
viable
project?
F
Yes,
regarding
the
zone,
5
West
that
was
spoken
earlier
and
brought
up
earlier,
including
the
new
East
West
Corridor
and
East
West
primary
street,
that
is
being
proposed.
What
are
the
potential
options
for
that
to
look
like
I
know
on
the
map
it
was
listed
as
a
primary
or
as
a
proposed
or
potential
primary
Road.
What
does
that
look
like
and
what
other
alternatives
are
there
for
something?
That's
a
little
more
asphalt
and
concrete,
or
a
little
less
asphalt
and
concrete
heavy.
For
example.
F
Q
So
let
me
answer
the
question
kind
of
on
what
the
vision
for
that
street
is.
It's
not
considered
it's
not
supposed
to
be
a
major
thoroughfare.
It's
really
meant
to
be
an
East-West
Connector
for
the
buildings
that
develop
along
that
area.
Between
66
and
Langston
Boulevard.
We
don't
want
every
single
person
to
have
to
either
walk
bike
or
drive
down
to
Langston
Boulevard
in
order
to
access
Kirkwood
and
spell
run.
What
we
want
is
a
little
bit
more
trip
distribution.
Q
Q
Boulevard-
and
we
do
think
even
from
a
vehicular
perspective,
that
that
is
really
important-
that
people
can
travel
east
west
if
they're
living
in
these
neighborhoods
and
not
have
to
take
every
single
trip
on
Langston
Boulevard.
So
we
really
do
think
that
it
as
a
connective
tissue
for
that
Community
for
all
modes
is
very
important.
L
R
O
Yeah
I've
also
walked
that
site
and
I
also
hosted
some
of
the
walking
tours
of
that
area.
Pipe
West
and
we
heard
tonight
from
one
resident
there
opposed
to
it
and
number
of
the
people
in
the
walking
tours
were
were
opposed
made
similar
arguments,
but
there
were
also
a
number
of
people
on
those
walking
tours
who
said.
O
Gee
I
really
would
like
to
have
some
alternative
way
to
get
over
towards
fat
run
or
to
the
park
in
the
other
direction,
because
we
really
hate
walking
on
Langston
Boulevard,
because
the
sidewalks
are
narrow.
The
cars
go
very
fast.
It
never
feels
safe.
I
just
would
rather
have
something
quieter
and
easier
to
get
East-West
on
my
question
for
Miss
Culkin
is
what
should
this
go
to
the
glop
be
put
on
the
glove
map?
O
Q
Q
But
we
do
not
articulate
explicitly
where
those
streets
are
so
that
as
site
plans
come
in
and
we
have
the
opportunity
to
design
connections
that
we
we
do
them
based
on
the
guidance
of
the
plan,
but
that
they're
not
so
specifically
articulated
on
the
map
that
we
don't
have
the
flexibility
in
the
future
to
build
them
where
they
make
sense.
In
that
time
and
place.
O
Great
because
part
of
it
is
what
again,
what
I've
walked
at,
where
we
have
one
of
the
streets
potentially
to
go.
There's
such
a
huge
topography
change
that
maybe
an
electric
bike
would
work,
but
it
isn't
going
to
work
for
cars
or
people,
and
it
certainly
is
an
ADA
Compliant.
So
we
really
do
need
that
flexibility.
It
isn't
just
North
Highlands
and
also
the
other
areas
of
the
of
the
of
the
boulevard
where
we're
proposing
additional
streets.
O
B
Great
I
think
my
next
question
since
I'm
not
seeing
anybody
else
shoot
their
oh
wait.
Commissioner,
Coleman's
got
his
hand
up,
go
ahead.
C
Thank
you
so
I
just
wanted
to
see
if
you
could
give
me
a
little
bit
more
information
about
how,
through
your
plan,
you're
intending
on
separating
excuse
me
breaking
down
some
of
these
separating
barriers
for
people
being
able
to
reach
public
schools.
Of
course,
Langston
Boulevard
serves
as
a
major
barrier
between
north
south
and
people
getting
to
not
just
Public
Schools,
but
other
public
facilities
and
other
amenities,
and
so
as
a
way
to
integrate
these
different
communities.
I
just
want
to
see
if
you
could
explain
this
a
little
bit
more.
Q
Sure
so
one
of
the
policies
in
the
plan
is
to
enhance
additional
pedestrian
Crossings
for
Langston
Boulevard
right
now,
the
the
only
safe
places
to
cross
as
a
pedestrian
or
where
you
have
signalized
intersections.
One
of
our
policies
is,
as
redevelopment's
happening,
to
look
for
additional
opportunities
to
create
safe
pedestrian,
Crossings
of
Langston,
Boulevard
I.
Think
one
of
the
biggest
things
is
just
the
transformation
of
the
corridor
itself.
Q
The
reason
why
Langston
Boulevard
is
a
barrier
today
is
because
of
Langston
Boulevard's
current
context
and
character
as
link
symbol
of
art
redevelops,
as
we
get
mixed-use
development
along
it.
There's
people
who
live
on
Langston,
Boulevard,
literally
on
Lake
symbol
of
art,
there's
people
who
are
walking
who
are
shopping
on
a
regular
basis,
as
we
see
that
cross-section
begin
to
evolve.
As
these
intersections
are
redesigned
through
Redevelopment,
the
corridor
itself
will
become
more
friendly
to
pedestrians.
B
Oh
I
got
one
too
as
long
as
we're
talking
about
pedestrian
Crossings
of
Langston
Boulevard.
Let's
talk
about
transportation
and
connectivity
policy
number
nine
in
the
draft
plan,
which
says
improve
pedestrian
and
cyclist
Crossings
of
Langston
Boulevard
with
protected
Crossings,
where
appropriate
and
seek
opportunities
to
minimize
the
distance
between
marked
pedestrian
Crossings.
How
do
we
decide
where
it's
appropriate
I
hate
that
phrase.
Q
So
I
I
don't
want
to
get
into
detail,
but
the
idea
is
that
we
will,
through
these
studies,
that
we're
doing
in
the
future
through
site
plan
applications,
take
a
look
at
where
pedestrian
Crossings
are.
Maybe
to
your
earlier
comment
on
the
Clarendon
sector
plan
and
the
fact
that
in
the
Clarendon
sector
plan,
you
pushed
for
a
pedestrian
Crossing
in
specific
locations
that,
as
we
go
through
and
do
more
detailed
analyzes
of
specific
locations
of
different
segments
of
the
corridor.
B
I
would
I
would
just
advocate
in
the
interest
of
making
this
a
more
resident,
readable
plan
and
something
that
people
can
can
can
take
away.
Something
meaningful
from
I
would
love
to
see
us
move
in
a
direction
on
policies
like
this
to
like
to
to
a
kind
of
level
of
service
or
or
a
metric
right.
B
Something
that
says
that
our
goal
is
that
no
no
pedestrian,
Crossing
Langston
Boulevard
has
to
go
more
than
200
feet
out
of
their
desired
path
in
order
to
get
to
a
safe
Crossing
or
something
like
that,
some
things
people
can
look
at
and
be
like,
oh
well,
that
would
be
way
better
right
now,
I
have
to
go
like
way
further
than
that,
just
to
get
down
to
the
next
safe
Crossing
of
Langston,
Boulevard
I
just
find
the
you
know
this
kind
of
plenary
where
appropriate
language
doesn't
say
anything
to
anybody.
B
O
Yeah
one
of
the
things
we
we
have
heard
from
the
community
consistently
and
every
Community
along
the
entire
Corridor
is
that
they
feel
intimidated
in
Crossing,
Langston
Boulevard.
It
just
always
feels
unsafe
and
there
are
long
stretches
where
there
are
no
traffic
lights
and
other,
such
as
between
the
Heidelberg
and
George
Mason
with
a
bottom
of
a
hill.
You
know
cars
keep
speeding
up
to
get
to
that
bottom
Crossing
there.
O
You
also
have
a
number
of
intersections
that
do
have
traffic
lights,
but
are
engineered
so
poorly
that
you
still
it's
just
a
pedestrian
nightmare
such
as
you
know
the
spout,
Ron
Langston,
Boulevard,
Kirkwood
intersection,
which
is
a
continuing
problem
and
is
terrible
and
I
walk
across
it
and
I
hate
walking
across
it.
We
have
others
that
are
similar.
So
it's
it's!
A
combination
of
traffic
signals
striping
and
total
re-engineering
of
a
number
of
these
Crossings
that
are
going
to
be
very
necessary.
O
Even
if
people
aren't
Crossing
now
the
reason
they're
not
Crossing
is
because
they
hate
Crossing
and
they
don't
want
to
they're
going
to
get
killed.
If
they
do
so
it's
you
know.
This
is
another
chicken
egg
thing
you
can't
say
we
can't
do
this,
it's
not
a
priority
because
nobody
wants
to
do
it.
It's
because
people
can't
do
it
or
won't
do
it,
and
that's
why
we
have
to
really
be
looking
at
these
to
make
them
as
walkable
and
and
think
of
pedestrians
more
than
thinking
of
getting
traffic
going
through
it.
B
Other
commissioner
questions
or
comments
all
right,
I'm
jumping
back
in
how
does
leaving
talk
to
me
about
Cherrydale
and
the
fact
that
it's
got
its
existing
plan
and
we
didn't
really
talk
about
Cherrydale
in
this
plan
because
it
has
its
existing
plan.
Can
we
still
get?
You
know
a
rebuilt
Langston
Boulevard
through
Cherrydale,
despite
the
fact
that
we
left
Cherrydale
alone
in
here.
Q
U
Hi,
everyone
apologies
that
I'm
late
I
had
another
meeting
that
I
had
to
that.
I
had
to
be
there
in
person
and
then
come
here.
So
to
answer
that
question,
there's
it's
really
a
two-part
question
or
two-part
answer.
We
did
look
specifically
at
the
cross
section
for
Cherrydale.
I
know
that
Acom
did
a
number
of
studies
earlier
on
in
the
process
when
we
were
looking
at
the
land
use
scenarios
and
then
later
in
the
preliminary
concept
plan.
U
That
really
spoke
to
very
specific,
let's
say,
but
you
know
obviously
to
the
level
of
detail
that
we
could
provide
at
that
time.
It
was
still
very
high
level,
but
it
did
make
some.
You
know
very
I,
think
robust
recommendations
for
improvements
to
the
five-point
intersection
to
the
overall
cross-section
of
of
Langston
in
that
segment
and
not
just
charity,
but
also
for
East
Falls
Church.
We
do
think
that
Transportation
like
public
spaces,
it's
it's
a
a
corridor-wide
element
that
we
need
to
make
sure
there's
cohesiveness
and
coordination.
U
The
challenge
that
we
ran
when
you
know
when
we
were
looking
out
at
that
particular
issue
when
it
came
down
to
the
transportation,
is
that
the
land
use
recommendations,
or
at
least
the
the
policies
that
are
in
place
in
the
plan
now
for
Cherrydale
in
particular,
didn't
really
support
the
level
of
Redevelopment
that
we
would
need
to
encourage
the
sort
of
the
changes
along
Langston
Boulevard.
U
You
know
in
the
in
the
way
that
we
are
applying
it
everywhere
else
along
the
corridor.
So
if
you
look
at
the
rest
of
the
quarter,
there
are
places
where
again
we're
showing
up
to
five
stories
up
to
seven
stories
up
to
ten
and
so
forth.
U
It
recognizes
that
it
needs
a
level
of
height
and
some
more
tools.
Incentives
to
be
able
to
encourage,
like
you
know,
Ryan,
was
saying
consolidation
of
lots,
which
is
really
what
we
need
to
reduce
the
number
of
driveways
and
then
do
everything
else
that
that
comes
along
with
that
in
terms
of
the
streetscape
improvements.
So
all
that
to
say-
and
it's
we
haven't
forgotten
about
it-
it's
we
it's
very
much
top
of
mind
that
it
is
an
important
piece
to
come
back
to
again.
U
We
didn't
do
it
because
we
felt
that
the
plan
we
needed
to
go
back
and
have
more
conversations
with
the
community
I
at
that
point.
I,
don't
know
that
we
got
a
lot
of
support
from
everyone
in
that
particular
Community
or
in
that
neighborhood
area.
To
say
yes,
it's
time
to
change
the
plan.
Yes,
it's
time
to
re-look
at
Heights,
or
even
some
of
the
land
use
policies
and
recommendations
that
would
support
the
kind
of
Transportation
changes.
U
So
we
didn't
want
to
just
rush
it
and
not
take
the
time
to
really
discuss
it
in
with
the
public
and
with
the
community
there
in
particular,
but
it
is
on
our
list
of
of
things
that
we
want
to
come
back
to.
We
just
don't
have
yet
you
know,
as
you
know,
it's
not
in
our
work
plan.
It
needs
to
be
assigned
to
our
work
plan,
and
you
know,
hopefully
that
will
that
will
become
a
priority
after
this
plan
is,
is
adopted.
B
F
Correct
it
is
a
new
up
with
Langston
Boulevard
being
a
state
owned
route.
F
What
challenges
does
that
pose
for
plan
Langston
Boulevard,
whether
especially
when
it
comes
to
Transportation
kind
of
issues
of
realigning
Lanes
narrowing
Lanes,
adding
in
bike
lanes?
That
sort
of
thing
is
VDOT
on
board
and
or
we
have
some
sort
of
agreement
or
process
with
them
built
up
that
we
can
make
this
easy,
or
would
it
ultimately
be
much
easier
for
us
if
Arlington
County
was
to
somehow
obtain
ownership
of
Langston
Boulevard
in
the
future.
Q
Q
They
have
not
told
us
no
on
any
of
our
cross-sections.
What
they
have
said
is
that
we're
going
to
have
to
coordinate
with
them
any
you
know
future
act
like
physical
changes
that
we
go
in
and
make
we're
going
to
have
to
do
analysis
for
the
point
where
we
made
with
the
the
section
five
area,
five
cross-section.
If
we
want
to
implement
that
it
will
acquire
significant
Transportation
analysis.
Like
detailed
analysis,
we've
done
the
high
level
work.
Q
We
think
it
can
work,
but
we're
going
to
have
to
get
really
kind
of
in
the
weeds,
with
VDOT
we're
going
to
have
to
do
a
transportation
study.
We're
going
to
have
to
have
them,
approve
it
they're
going
to
have
to
sign
off
on
it,
but
we're
committed
to
doing
that
work
with
VDOT
in
the
long
term.
There
are
a
lot
of
opportunities
at
these
intersections
that
vdot's.
Also,
you
know
on
board
with
to
help
align
them
to
be
safer
for
all
modes.
Q
Vdot
is
really
enthusiastic
about
the
idea
of
reducing
the
number
of
curb
Cuts
along
Langston,
Boulevard
I.
Think
that's,
probably
one
of
the
things
that
they
might
see
as
one
of
the
biggest
benefits,
is
that
that
safety
and
operational
perspective
of
there's
curb
Cuts
so
often
on
Langston
Boulevard
right
now
that
it's
just
a
safety
issue
for
pedestrians,
for
drivers
for
really
anybody
who's
walking,
biking
moving
scooting
along
the
corridor.
Q
We're
gonna
have
to
do
our
due
diligence
and
we're
going
to
have
to
coordinate
with
them.
But
that's
that's
something
that
we
would
have
to
do.
No
matter
what
for
link
symbol
of
art?
I'll
say
it
is
part
of
the
national
highway
system.
Q
It's
part
of
vdot's
network
and
we'll
just
be
committed
to
working
with
them.
As
we
work
to
realize,
link
simple
of
our.
E
Hi
I
was
the
schools
are
mentioned,
a
lot
in
the
in
the
draft
in
the
draft,
but
not
in
the
transportation
section
and
I
know
it's
kind
of
implied
that
on
that.
What
is
that
tc1?
E
That
says,
you
know
like
basically
a
multimodal
Corridor,
but
what
do
you
think
about
making
it
more
explicit
of
providing
alternatives
for
students
to
get
to
school,
even
though
it
is
implied
because
but
as
we
see,
there's
so
many
school
bus
driver
shortages
and
speaking
from
personal
experience
and
the
experience
of
many
in
my
classroom,
it's
I
know
when
I
moved
to
a
a
neighborhood
where
I
could
walk
to
school.
E
It
was
incredibly
liberating
and
and
fun,
and
so
and
I
think
that
would
be
a
a
great
goal
to
strive
for
in
this
Corridor,
even
though
it
is
kind
of
implicitly
implied.
Q
It
isn't
sorry
it.
It
is
implied,
I.
Think
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
is
we
didn't
really
get
into
the
Weeds
on
like
school,
walk,
sheds
and
things
along
those
lines.
I
think
the
there
is
that
higher
level
implicity
that
we're
doing
this
to
benefit
all
people
who
Moved
we
didn't
call
it.
The
people
who
are
specifically
walked
in
the
grocery
store
or
walking
to
Parks,
just
because
there
is
that
high
level
implicit
that
by
doing
this,
we
are
improving
people
who
are
walking
and
biking
to
any
type
of
trip.
B
All
right,
this
is
just
an
info
item.
I
will
be
back
to
us
for
Action
in
the
future.
I
think
we've
learned.
Oh
commissioner,
Ludlow
Jump,
Right
In.
V
Yeah
I,
just
I,
just
wanted
to
kind
of
applaud
this
effort.
Langston
Boulevard
is
a
relic
of
the
past
and
it
is
time
to
do
something
with
it.
Long
long
past
I
I
use
the
corridor
frequently
as
a
bicycle
commuter
and
sometimes,
as
a
writer
of
art
55.
V
My
my
main
concern
is
about
how
to
hasten
change
on
the
corridor
and
I
wanted
to
ask
a
couple
of
questions
there.
One
of
them
is
how
dependent
are
we
upon
property
assembly
and
kind
of
the
movement
of
the
private
markets
in
terms
of
really
realizing
the
change
along
the
corridor,
and
is
there
a
way
we
could
capitalize
it
more
quickly
and
then
I
have
a
follow-up
question
to
that
question.
Q
I'll,
let
Natasha
take
that
one,
because
it's
pretty
development
driven.
U
Sure
I
I
think
we've
said
this
before,
but
the
opportunities
for
changes
are
going
to
be
very
much
notable
at
Major
intersections,
where
we
see
the
most
opportunity
for
either
consolidation,
because
there's
more
height
or
because
properties
are
larger.
It
really
varies
along
along
the
corridor.
This
isn't
a
as
we
know
the
corridor
isn't
composed
of,
let's
say
similarly
sized
blocks
for
the
whole
entire
four
and
a
half
miles.
U
We've
got
topography,
changes,
we've
got
blocks
that
are
very
short
and
narrow,
and
some
that
are
very
deep
and
irregular
in
shape
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it
really
has
to
do
with
what
sites
are
ready
to
move
forward
the
quickest
and
what
we're?
What
we
know
based
on
you
know
who
we've
talked
to
and
who
shared
information
about.
You
know
their
plans
for
the
future.
Is
we
know
that
there's
definitely
more
interest
in
the
nodes
around
those
intersections,
and
so
we
think
that
that's
going
to
be
the
Catalyst.
U
V
Corridor
but
I'm
wondering
I
mean
in
in
many
circumstances.
It
almost
takes
a
public
investment
to
really
catalyze,
especially
those
sections
between
nodes.
So
have
we
looked
at
what
we
can
do
within
the
right-of-way?
That
is
public?
That's
VDOT
owned
right
now
that
is
not
dependent
upon
the
independent
actions,
but
could
be
integrated
in
to
the
the
market
driven
forces
along
the
corridor
because
I'm
just
you
know,
I
I
think
this
could
evolve
in
a
very
piecemeal
way
and
organic
is
nice
sometimes.
L
Q
Dog,
a
lot
of
this
right-of-way
is
constrained.
We
money
is
not
the
big
constraining
Factor,
even
though
you
know,
financials
are
a
constraining
factor.
First,
significant
amount
of
the
corridor
without
Redevelopment,
there's
just
there's,
there's
very
little
wiggle
room
to
make
improvements,
and
that's
why
the
Redevelopment
of
the
corridor
is
so
important
over
the
long
term.
Q
Q
In
our
conversation
in
area
five,
we
do
think
there's
a
real
opportunity
for
us
to
come
in
and
make
significant
change
with
capital
investment
to
the
corridor
and
then
some
area
some
opportunities
in
area
three,
but
just
from
a
right-of-way
perspective,
it's
a
constrained
Corridor
and
that
that's
why
the
Redevelopment
and
the
opportunity
to
get
Space
where
we
can
enhance
the
sidewalks,
create
safe
space
for
cyclists,
and
it
also
includes
in
some
of
that,
all
of
it
Narrows
the
vehicular
lines
as
well.
Q
It's
not
just
about
you
know
expanding
into
the
the
building
envelope,
but
some
of
it
does
constrict
the
right-of-way,
but
we
need
both
in
order
to
make
the
change
that
will
actually
improve
people's
experiences.
U
And
I
would
add
Kristen
that
it
it's
not
just
the
space.
It's
it's
changing
the
building
placement.
The
issue
that
we
have
is
that,
for
the
most
part,
we've
got
parking
lots
with
sometimes
no
buffer
between
the
parking
space
and
and
the
sidewalk,
and
so
unless
the
building
can
move
closer
to
the
street,
we
put
the
parking
in
the
back
and
the
axis
is
off
the
side
streets.
U
It
will
be
really
hard,
even
if
we
had
all
the
money
in
the
world
to
come
in
and
and
do
things
consistently
when
we
have
to
deal
with
site
distance
triangles
and
then
you
can't
place
trees,
curb
Cuts
yeah
because
of
those
curve
cuts,
and
so
we
were
putting
money
into
something
that
isn't
going
to
do.
Anything
I
think
we've
talked
about
this
before,
where
wherever
we've
had
some
intervention
along
Langston,
wherever
we've
done
some
improvements,
it's
really
been
marginal
yeah
and
we've
seen
it
even
with
the
buy
right
development
like,
for
example.
U
For
the
most
part,
you
know
we
saw
with
the
Children's
School.
Well,
it's
a
great
facility
and
it's
something
it's
a
need
and
it's
a
service
that
the
community
really
wants.
U
There
was
a
lot
that
could
have
been
done
if,
if
they
would
have
had
more
more
tools
at
their
disposal,
we
weren't
able
to
get
Street
trees
in
that
particular
site.
We
have
two
curb
Cuts
so
close
to
each
other
and
it's
practically
parking
on
the
ground
floor.
There's
really
nothing
activating
the
street
and
and
you
know,
generating
pedestrian
activity.
So
it's
is
those
missed
opportunities.
We
really
need
to
encourage
that
Redevelopment
just
to
be
able
to
to
change
the
building.
The
set
configuration.
V
Yeah
I
mean
I,
think
the
the
part
that's
the
most
ripe
for
a
transformative
reimagining
is
between
Roslyn
and
Cherrydale,
where
you
have.
That
is
a
massive
footprint
already
anyway,
thanks
for
your
thanks
for
your
insights,
this
this
is.
This
is
going
to
be
tricky
and
multi-faceted
and
dependent
on
a
lot
of
different
actors
and
is
going
to
take
decades
to
be
realized.
I
think.
O
Hi
I
just
have
a
couple
of
points
one
we
haven't
talked
about
yet
is
Transit
I'd
like
to
plan
to
have
in
it
10-minute
headways
for
the
buses
along
up
and
down
the
corridor
and
pay
more
attention
to
the
cross
cross
Lancaster
Boulevard
buses.
So
there
really
is
true
Transit
connectivity,
rather
than
what
we
have
now,
where
it's
basically
a
half
hour
between
buses,
which
really
isn't
Transit
so
put
that
down
parking,
especially
in
areas
two
and
three
and
I
think
you've
alluded
to
this.
O
So
I
think
it
will
be
in
the
plan,
but
I
just
want
to
emphasize
that
we
be
that
it's
not
the
Metro
corridors
where
we're
really
tight
on
where
parking
can
be
done
and
should
be
done
or
should
not
be
done.
More
importantly,
here
we're
going.
This
is
still
going
to
remain
to
a
certain
extent,
Auto
oriented
those
retailers
will
need
parking.
O
B
Great
I
think
we're
we're
heading
towards
the
wrap
up
here.
I
think
we've
heard
a
lot
of
really
useful
information
and
explored
a
lot
of
good
topics.
B
B
Langston,
Boulevard
and
I
continue
to
be
concerned
that
there
is
not
enough
to
encourage
the
Redevelopment
that
we've
heard
so
eloquently
is
absolutely
required
in
order
to
make
Langston
Boulevard,
not
the
auto-centric
pedestrian
Frogger
place
that
it
is
today
so
I
think
it
is
imperative
on
us
as
a
commission,
as
this
comes
back
for
action
in
the
future,
to
be
prepared
to
make
recommendations
to
the
County
Board
about
how
the
plan
can
make
sure
that
it
is
sufficiently
incentivizing
Redevelopment
so
that
it
is
economically
viable.
B
So
that
staff
is
added
to
their
work
plan
to
come
back
and
talk
about
Cherrydale.
So
we
don't
have
a
Cherrydale
revitalization
district-sized
hole
in
our
rebuilt,
Langston
Boulevard,
smack
in
the
middle
and
so
that
we
can
actually
get
to
a
more
livable
and
enjoyable
Langston
Boulevard.
U
If
I
could
just
give
a
quick
update
on
timeline,
perhaps
my
team
already
did.
U
I
just
want
to
make
sure
perhaps
the
team
already
mentioned
it
in
the
speaking
points
at
the
beginning.
We
are
aiming
for
RTA
in
October
and
then
final
adoption
in
November.
U
So
the
plan
at
the
moment
is
we
may
or
may
not
come
back
to
all
of
the
commissions
we're
doing
sort
of
the
round
robin
now
in
the
month
of
September,
to
make
sure
we've
hit
everyone
before
we
release
the
the
official
first
draft,
which
is
going
to
be
the
RTA
draft
later
this
month.
So
at
the
end
of
September,
that
draft
is
going
to
come
out.
U
You'll
see
some
I
think
good
improvements,
addressing
a
lot
of
the
things
that
you
mentioned
tonight,
but
I
would
encourage
the
commission
if,
if
this
is
something
that
you
support,
you
know,
maybe
all
of
the
statements
that
you
just
said
feel
free
to
submit
a
letter
to
us
stating
all
of
the
comments
that
you've
had
and
then
and
let
us
know
if
you
feel
that
after
you
know,
after
we've
addressed
the
issues
and
and
we
come,
we
released
the
RTA
draft.
U
If
you
still
think
that
there
are
things
that
are
missing
to,
let
us
know
as
well
and
then
you
know
if
we
need
to
come
back
and
readdress
something
we're
happy
to
do
so.
I
just
want
to
to
let
you
know
that
we're
really
pressed
for
time
and
so
I
don't
want
to
wait.
U
If
there
are,
you
know
comments
already
that
you
have
I.
We
would
be
happy
to
to
start
processing
those
before
we
go
too
far
into
the
RTA.
B
All
right,
I'll
I'll,
see
what
I
can
do.
That's
not
normally
the
way
that
we
operate,
but
we
will
I'll
figure
something
out,
we'll
coordinate
through
mizobikoi
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
think
that
closes
out
this
this
agenda
item.
Thank
you.
B
September
28th,
one
of
our
closest
together
sets
of
TC
meetings.
That
is
technically
our
October
meeting.
B
We
we
need
to
provide
a
representative
and
an
alternate
to
the
river
house
site
plan
review,
so
if
that
is
something
that
you
are
interested
in,
please
shoot
me
an
email
sometime
soon,
so
that
I
can
work
through
whoever's
interested
and
we
can
get
a
couple
names
on
that
list
before
it
gets
into
operation.
B
That's
right
there
in
Pentagon
City
across
from
what
used
to
be
Pentagon
row
and
is
now
named
something
much
more
bland
and
difficult
to
remember,
West,
something
anything
else.
Commissioner,
Theo
I
see
a
hand
up.
F
I
was
just
going
to
say
on
the
delegator
alternate
for
Ripper
house.
I
could
be
interested
in
that
so
I'll
reach
out
to
you
all.