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A
Okay,
welcome
all
to
the
September
19
2023
long-range
planning
committee
on
its
lrpc
and
the
zoning
committee,
the
Soco,
the
hybrid
meeting
on
the
sanitary
sewer,
Master
Plan
update
and
the
plan
like
to
Boulevard
General
land
use
plan.
That's
the
bluff
and
there's
only
ordinance
amendments.
We
will
be
holding
a
hybrid
public
meeting
which
enables
remote
electronic
participation
as
legally
authorized
by
the
code
of
Virginia
per
the
planning
commission's
electronic
meeting
policy
that
was
adopted
on
July
7
2022..
A
Do
we
have
any
planning
Commissioners
people
at
the
tape
who
are
to
be
at
the
table
who
are
participating
remotely?
If
so,
can
you
raise
your
virtual
hand.
A
Consultant,
okay,
that
t-step
okay
good
and
if
there's
anybody
on
the
phone,
a
planning
commissioner
who's
on
the
phone,
you
can
start
six
and
say
so
now,
anyway,
okay,
the
planning
commissions
committees,
including
the
lrpc
and
zoko,
provide
comments
to
staff
to
help
shape
land
use
policies
and
zoning
regulations
prior
to
formal
consideration
and
public
hearings
with
the
Planning
Commission
for
any
final
action
on
amendments
to
the
County's,
General
land
use
plan
or
building
ordinance,
Planning
Commission
and
the
County
Board
will
each
hold
two
public
hearings.
A
Most
rapid
hearings
will
set
the
scope
of
what
amendments,
what
the
amendments
are
advertised
and
the
second
round
will
consider
whether
to
adopt
those
amendments.
At
this
time,
I'd
like
to
orient
everyone
to
our
hybrid
environment
and
harbor,
a
few
specifics
about
how
tonight's
meeting
will
be
run.
Tonight's
Edition
will
consist
of
two
separate
meetings
on
the
subject
agenda
items.
A
First:
portion
of
the
gender
agenda
will
be
dedicated
to
lrpc
discussion
of
the
sanitary
sewer,
Master
Plan
update,
followed
by
public
comment
for
that
agenda
item.
What's
the
public
comment
period
is
concluded,
I'll
adjourn
that
meeting
the
second
portion
of
the
agenda
will
be
dedicated
to
lrpc
and
zoko
discussion
on
the
planned
Langston
Boulevard
General
land
use
plant
and
zoning
ordinance
Amendment,
followed
by
public
comment
that
will
be
chaired
by
my
fellow
commissioner
Charlotte
who's
here
next
debate
in
person.
A
Remember,
let's
see
members
of
the
public
May
attend
the
meeting
here
in
person
or
electronically
by
using
the
Microsoft
teams
link
provided
on
the
lrpc
web
pages,
the
County's
events
calendar
and
the
email
notification
sent
to
lrpc
email
subscribers.
Additionally,
there's
a
dial-in
phone
option
for
those
who
wish
to
use
it.
A
For
our
virtual
attend
dates
using
Microsoft
teams,
please
turn
off
your
video
feed
I
will
address
when
it's
appropriate
to
turn
it
on.
In
a
moment,
Microsoft
teams,
meeting
chat
is
active
to
soon
serve
two
purposes
for
participants
who
need
technical
assistance
and
for
other
attendees,
for
example,
members
of
the
public
to
pose
brief,
clarifying
questions
to
the
larger
audience.
While
these
will
be
monitored,
they
will
not
be
formally
acknowledged.
A
Teams
chat
should
not
be
used
for
discussion
or
any
inappropriate
statements.
Those
who
are
planning
to
provide
public
comments
will
still
need
to
do
so
at
the
end,
as
the
chat
will
not
serves
that
opportunity,
as
mentioned
there'll,
be
two
periods
of
public
comments
tonight,
which
will
follow
after
discussion
of
each
agenda
item.
All
public
comments
must
be
shared
verbally
for
the
record
during
the
assigned
public
testimony
periods.
A
I
would
also
like
to
remind
everyone
to
in
the
room,
to
speak
up
slowly
and
clearly
and
point
to
the
mic
to
say
the
microphones
are
above
us
here.
That's
what
we
need
to
talk
to,
so
everybody
who
is
online
will
be
able
to
hear
us.
In
addition,
if
you'd
like
to
share
your
screen,
please
request
permission
from
the
lrpc
chair
prior
to
doing
so.
A
Unlike
the
planning
commission's
regular
meetings,
the
lrpc
and
zocode
agenda
items
are
not
public
hearings
and
therefore
public
comment
is
at
the
lrpc
and
the
chair's
discretion
after
the
committee
discussion
has
concluded.
I
am
exercising
the
discretion.
Both
of
us
are
exercising
that
discretion.
So
there
will
be
public
comment
at
the
end
of
each
of
these
two
agenda
items.
A
You
will
be
called
on
at
the
end
of
the
lrpc
or
zoca
discussion
to
speak
on
each
of
tonight's
agenda
items.
The
speaking
time
allowed
will
depend
on
the
number
of
speakers
we
have
this
evening.
Maximum
time
will
be
two
minutes.
If
there's
a
lot
of
people,
it
could
be
shorter.
A
I
will
call
the
speakers
at
each
agenda.
Item
and
I
will
ask
the
staff
to.
Let
me
know
if
we
have
any
virtual
attendees
we'd
like
to
provide
comment.
Staff
will
acknowledge
speakers
in
the
team's
chat.
A
So
please
indicate
in
the
chat
if
you'd
like
to
provide
comment
in
your
name
will
be
added
to
our
list
of
speakers.
Members
of
the
public
attending
virtually
will
speak
first,
followed
by
in-person
attendees.
When
virtual
attendees
are
called
upon
to
speed.
You
must
unmute
Yourself
by
clicking
on
the
microphone
icon
that
is
located
on
your
meetings
on
the
meeting
command
bar
moderator
does
not
have
the
ability
to
unmute
you,
but
you
will
be
muted
when
your
time
has
concluded
as
an
alternative
public
comment
is
available
and
being
provided
on.
A
The
public
comment
form
posted
on
the
lrpc
and
zoko
with
Pages.
Lastly,
this
isn't
always
tonight's
meeting
will
be
recorded
posted
to
the
capital
website.
All
information
associated
with
today's
meeting
with
a
written
spoken
is
subject
to
the
Freedom
of
Information
Act
requirements,
or
we
do
anything
further.
Why
do
we
go
around
the
room
and
introduce
ourselves.
B
E
F
F
Strick
of
uuca
at
Arlington
voice.
F
A
B
Okay,
so
I'm
John,
Butler,
I'm,
John,
Muller,
Chief
supporters,
here
at
Water,
Service
streets,
water,
super
streets,
we're
a
bureau
of
DES
in
Arlington
County,
and
we
maintain
basically
1058
million
miles
of
streets.
We
maintain
about
four
and
four
three
miles:
sidewalks
storm
sewer
system,
Wastewater
sewer
system
and
the
drinking
water
system.
So
so
I'll
start
by
just
explaining
what
is
a
sanitary
sewer,
basically,
all
the
water
that
goes
down
the
drains
in
your
house,
the
shower
drain,
the
toilet
sinks,
the
appliances
like
the
washing
machine.
All
that
ends
up
goes.
B
Yeah
I,
don't
know,
definitely
Road
near
so
basically,
you
know
all
the
water
you
use
ends
up
in
the
Sanitary
Service
System.
There's
a
lot
of
key
differences
between
the
sanitary
sort
of
storm
sewer.
You
know
in
Arlington
we
do
not
have
any
combined
sewer
systems.
B
B
Like
DC
Alexander,
they
have
a
lot
of
sections
where
they
can
find
sewer
systems.
That's
why
they
have
to
build
those
massive
tunnels
underground
that
cost.
So
we
don't
have
any
of
those
issues
to
build
that
stuff.
Another
key
difference
is
just
size.
B
You
know
our
smallest.
The
most
normal
size
Center
is
on
eight
inches
diameter,
whereas
our
smallest
storm
sewer
system,
our
storm
server
that
we
maintain
is
about
15
inches.
So
you
might
say:
well,
that's
Santos
about
half
the
size
of
the
storm,
but
that's
actually
not
true.
Just
based
on
like
geometrics,
the
carrying
capacity
of
15
inch
height
carries
about
five
times
a
little
eight
inch
pipe
carries
so
there's
you
know
the
Storm
Circle
carry
a
lot
more
flow
than
Sanders,
so.
B
You
know
another
difference
in
storms
and
usually
storm
Shores
are
usually
more
shallow,
whereas
Sanitary
Service
are
much
deeper
in
the
roadway
because
we
have
to
pick
up
basements
Foundation
drains
and
things
like
that.
So.
B
It
much
more
complex
than
storm
Source,
because
anytime,
you
have
to
work
deep
underground.
You
can
trench
boxes
water
work
areas.
Sanctuary
series
also
have
a
lot
of
hazardous
waste
and
you
know
gases
inside
of
them,
so
they're
not
they're,
not
fun,
to
work
in
and
stuff.
B
You
know,
Arlington
the
kind
of
the
left
you
see
from
the
house,
there's
that
little
pipe
that
goes
out
and
connects
to
the
big
pipe
in
the
road.
So
that's
noticed
the
santera
superlateral,
so
Arlington
County,
that's
privately
owned
to
maintained
model
residents.
So
if
they
have
any
issues
in
that
lateral
that
cause
them
to
back
up,
they
have
to
hire
a
plumber.
Plumber
comes,
gets
permanent
out
in
and
fixes
it.
So
we
don't.
We
don't
maintain
Sewer
Lateral,
so
some
jurisdictions
will
have
like
a
clean
out
kind
of
sidewalk
area.
B
That's
where
the
public
maintenance
starts,
but
that's
not
I
know.
You
know
another
thing
to
point
out:
there's
no
meter
on
a
sanitary
sewer,
an
Arlington!
You
know
meters.
They
really
go
wonky
and
stuff.
So
we
built
you
know.
People's
sewer
usage
is
based
on
their
winter
quarter,
water
usage,
water
and
then,
unless
you
know,
let's
say
like
you
lived
in
Maine
over
the
summer
and
you
didn't
use
any
water,
you
would
get
built
based
on
the
lower
amount
of
water
usage
or
your
winter.
Sanitary.
B
Yeah
I
just
want
other
a
couple.
Other
differences,
some
fantastic
pipes,
they're
usually
made
out
of
PVC.
B
Those
are
like
the
door
pipes,
plastic
pipes,
those
those
are
irresistant
to
corrosion
and
things
like
that,
whereas
storm
surgeon
reinforce
concrete
pipe,
you
know,
but
one
similarity,
sanitarian
storm
services
that
go
from
rely
on
gravity
to
do
all
the
work.
So
gravity
is
great
because
it's
free
and
you
know
we
don't
need
to
pump
it
use
energy
doesn't
cost
any
money,
doesn't
new
maintenance,
so
so,
basically,
almost
our
entire
collection
system.
B
That's
also
why
you'll
find
you
know
both
of
these
those
sanitary,
sewers
and
storm
servers
in
people's
backyards,
the
rear
side
yards
and
things
like
that
in
the
report
of
the
conflict.
Sometimes
people
will,
you
know,
add
additions
to
their
properties
and
there's
a
Santa
character.
That's
too
close
to
it
and
all
that
so
I.
J
B
Let's
explain
that
I've
been
here
tonight
to
present
from
the
sanitary
Master
Plan
update,
so
I'll,
just
kind
of
give
you
a
background
on
the
master
plan,
an
overview
of
our
Wastewater
sewer
system
and
our
current
programs
highlights
of
this
current
2023
Master
Plan
update
and
then
summarize
our
action
plan
recommendations.
B
This
is
one
of
the
11
elements
of
the
kinds
comprehensive
plan.
I
know
there
soon
to
be
a
12th
one,
coming
up
with
the
natural
resources,
one.
B
You
know,
basically,
the
comprehensive
plan
was
established
by
the
County
Board
1960
originally
consisted.
B
J
B
You
know
basically
in
Arlington,
our
sewer
system
began
in
1933
when
voters
in
November
of
that
year
voted
on
referendum,
creative.
You
know
public
county-wide,
sanitary
sewer
system
prior
to
that
you
just
had
a
few
private
sewer
systems
spread
out
throughout
the
county.
The
people
either
had
like
septic
tanks
or
they
had
outhouses,
or
they
just
out
called
private
sewers
and
like
streams
and
things
like
that,
and
then
in
19.
The
county
basically
built
its
whole
network
over
about
four
years
and
it
built
the
treatment
plant
in
1937.
B
It's
the
treatment
plant
opened
in
1937,
so
it's
kind
of
I
think
the
origins
of
our
system,
sanitary
sewer,
like
the
Slime
and
the
comp
plan.
So
it
evaluates
the
master
plan,
evaluates
the
system,
facilities,
practices,
programs,
policies
and
improvements
needed
to
provide
maintain
adequate
services.
B
B
B
Remains
a
valuable
resource
to
County
residents.
Our
objectives
are
that
so
the
master
planner
objectives,
though,
that
we
describe
the
sanitizer
collection
system.
We
document
the
ongoing
programs
and
improvements
to
take
about
a
county
to
maintain
and
update
the
gravity
sewer
system
to
serve
the
needs
of
the
residents
and
ensure
continuous
service
identify
and
address
any
proportions
of
the
gravity
gravity.
Sanitary
sewer
system
that
do
not
have
sufficient
capacity
for
existing
and
projected
future
Peak.
Wastewater
flow
demands
recommend
potential
programs
to
address
current
or
future
capacity
issues,
backups
and
emergencies.
F
B
C
B
And
then
it's
connected
on
both
sides
by
manholes
to
about
approximately
15
000
manholes.
This
is
not
part
of
the
plan.
We
have
15
sewer,
lift
stations
and
about
four
miles.
Four
span's
list
station
is
a
prep,
basically
enforcements
of
pressurized
sewer
that
you'll
see
a
lot
of
those
up
by
Military
Road,
where
you
have
these
big
Hills
up
and
down.
So
you
can't
by
gravity,
kick
up
a
hill,
so
you.
K
B
To
pump
that
the
hill,
so
that's
what
that
is
you
look
at
the
map
there,
the
cyan
area?
That's
that's
the
section
of
Arlington
County
that
is
out
Falls
to
DC
complaints,
treatment
plant.
So
that's
about
1,
MGD
a
day
goes
over
there,
blue
Plains,
that's
located
across
from
National
Harbor
over
at
that
southwest
tip
of
DC.
B
So
there's
all
the
DC
brings
it
all
the
way
over
there
orange
areas
are
where
Fairfax
County
Falls
Church
in
Alexandria
outfall
to
out
fall
too
Arlington
County's
wastewater
treatment
plan.
So
that's
that
magenta
of
square
at
the
very
bottom
southern
tip
of
the
county
over
Route
One,
South,
Cleveland
Road.
That
area.
B
So
you
know
our
partners
are
Fairfax
County.
We
call
them
inner
jurisdictional,
Partners,
Fairfax,
County,
Falls
Church
in
Alexandria.
B
You
know,
there's
a
lot
of
basically
the
big
area
of
Fairfax
County
that
out
Falls
to
Arlington
is
the
route,
seven
Corridor.
So
there's
a
lot
of
great
growth
potential
there
among
Bailey's,
Crossroads
and
Seven
Corners,
so
they're
always
interested
in
you
know
the
person
who
capacity
and
things
like
that
we
have
about
37
000
sewer
billing
accounts,
see
we
there's
only
38
properties
left
in
the
county
that
made
that
are
remain
on
septic
tanks.
J
K
B
These
really
aren't
possible
to
convert
to
the
gravity
sewer
system
just
because
of
just
photography
where
they're
located
a
lot
of
them
are
right
off
that
Ridge
up
the
GW
Parkway
and
some
of
the
largest
houses,
so
they
would
need
to
basically
create
private
Force
Base
to
connect
to
our
system.
B
We'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
our
organizational
structure:
water
streets,
the
basically
the
primary
careers
that
maintain
the
system.
We
have
four
flushing
Crews,
two
store
construction,
Crews
and
three
CCTV
Crews.
So
that's
basically
what
keeps
our
system.
K
B
B
We
have
to
augment
our
internal
staff
with
contractors.
We
have
a
flushing
contractor,
a
student
repair
contractor
and
a
server
rehab
contract
and
just
in
general,
in
the
on
the
map
there
for
the
the
non-blue
plans
area.
You
know
all
that,
like
so
all
that
drains
down
south,
basically
north
to
south
down
to
the
magenta
Square.
B
K
B
It's
a
very
large
sewer.
Then
you
also
have
the
Long
Branch
relief
sewer.
That's
basically
what
comes
along
Washington,
Boulevard,
South,
Route
50
goes
through
Fort
Myer
and
then
the
connecting
down
to
the
atomic
Interceptor.
Then,
lastly,
of
the
Four
Mile
Run
relief,
Four
Mile,
Run
Interceptor
sewers
that
just
run
basically
all
the
way
down:
Four
Mile
Run,
all
the
way
from
East
Falls
Church
down
to
the
treatment
plant,
so
those
are
kind
of
your.
We
call
them.
You
know
sewers
are
kind
of
like
roadway,
Network
cereal
streets,
collectors
of
local
streets,
the.
J
B
You
have
your
interceptors,
are
your
arterial
sewers
trunk
sewers
are
kind
of
your
collectors
and
then
they
just
remains
are
your
local
ones?
B
Basically,
everything
under
15,
like
eight
inches
to
12
inches
in
diameter.
That's
your
local
15
inches
up
to
like.
K
B
Inches,
that's
your
trunk
and
then
everything
above
30
inches
diameter
is
interceptor,
so
talk
about
sources
on
common
sources
of
Sanders
or
info
infiltration.
This
is
really
critical
in
sanitary
Source
because
they
can
it's
like
I
mentioned
they're
smaller
than
storm
source,
so
they
can
get
really
overwhelmed
if
you
have
lots
of
storm
water
and
groundwater
infiltrating
into
them.
So
I,
just
kind
of
you
know
this
picture
summarizes
the
blue
ones
or
inflow
sources.
B
So
that's
a
lot
of
old
1930s,
40s
50s
houses
and
relatively
what
it's
called
Foundation
drain
and
that's
connected
to
their
super
lateral.
So
the
foundation
drains
to
keep
groundwater
from
basically
and
infiltrating
into
your
basement.
They
don't
these
houses,
don't
have
some
humps
so
that
that's
what
they
use
back
then,
in
those
days
nowadays,
the
new
house,
without
a
sump
pump,
that's
the
sanitary
lateral.
You
know
that
sometimes
you
know
people
put
illicit
connections
like
roof
trains
and
the
plumbing
to
the
sanitary
sewer
system.
Well,
we'll
find
those.
B
When
we
do
our
CCTV
stuff,
you
might
have
uncapped,
cleanouts
or
clean
out
some
events
on
them
to
try
to
leave
odors
from
the
house,
and
then
you
also
sometimes
have
faulty
manhole
covers
and
frames
that
aren't,
aren't
watertight
or
might
have
like
a
hole
or
two
in
them
to
get
them
open,
and
things
like
that
that
all
that
allows
storm
water
and
flow
into
the
system.
B
There's
one
thing
there,
storms
here
across
can
actually
we
don't
have
anything
the
infiltration
sources,
those
are
the
green
ones,
broken
Wastewater,
laterals,
so
cracks
a
lot
of
the
house
is
still
their
original
lateral
from
them.
They
were
built,
you
know
80
years
ago,
and
so
they
have
cracks.
In
that
you
know.
Groundwater
is
above
the
lateral
line.
All
that
groundwater
is
getting
into
our
system
tree.
K
B
Are
really
problematic?
They
love
to
get
into
our
system
and
drink
that
water
and
get
the
nutrients
in
there
sometimes
have
faulted
lateral
connections.
B
B
But
you
know
basically
High
iodine
that
you
know
it's
a
problem,
because
when
you
have
big
rainstorms,
then
they
can
cause
backups
and
I'll
talk
about
kind
of
like
the
low
conditions
in
Arlington.
So
this
line
graph
goes
back
to
like
July
of
1989,
so
you
can
kind
of
see
our
monthly
Flows
at
the
water
treatment
pollution
plant,
and
so
you
can
see
just
by
you
know
our
population,
great
Lynn,
Christian
over
this
time
that
you
know
the
flows
are
generally
going
down
in
Arlington,
so
about
almost
close
to
30
MGD.
B
Oh
basically,
around
30
MGD
back
in
the
mid
90s
and
now
we're
down
to
22.
That's
MGT
is
a
building
gallons
per
day.
So
that's
quite
a
bit
a
big
reduction
permanent
for
40
MGD.
So
we
have
lots
of
capacity
there.
B
That's
intended
to
introduced
that
I
and
I
I
was
just
talking
about,
and
so
we
think
that's
also
had
a
big
impact
on
reducing
flows
for
water
pressure
control
plant,
as
I
mentioned
earlier
that
that
area
in
North
Arlington
that
drains
to
Blue
Plains.
That's
only
one
MGD,
that's
only
about
five
percent
of
our
total
eleven
Ireland.
So
just
you
know,
that's
a
fairly
large
area.
It's
almost
all
just
single-family
houses.
B
And
you
know
another
reason
you
know
blows
are
decreases
because
water
demands
decreasing
so
here
I've
mapped
in
the
orange
the
population
based
on
the
U.S
census,
those
10
years
Cycles,
the
blue.
L
B
B
Then
they
pump
up
to
Arlington
and
then
in
our
system
and
so
those
all
those
all
those
data
points.
Basically
that
sort
of
annually.
J
B
We
pay
what
we
buy
from
the
average
per
day
so
see
that,
basically,
like
you
know,
steady
decline
in
the
water
use
a
lot
of
that's
based
on
those
low
flow
fixtures
like
toilets
appliances,
it's
like
like
that.
J
B
Evaporation
like
breweries
and
cooling
towers,
but
for
the
most
part
it
you
know
it
all
just
goes
down
down
the
train.
So
now
I'll
talk
about
our
Capital
Improvement.
K
B
That's
what
we're
in
right
now
so
we're
at
FY-
or
you
know
these-
are
the
budget.
The
10-year
budget
figures
for
that,
the
overall
utilities
CIP
10-year
budget
is
about
607
million.6,
617
million
dollars,
so
the
just
the
sanitary
super
portions,
only
6,
or
so
we're
only
about
11
of
that
overall
budget,
so
I'll
basically
highlight
maybe
the
big
four
programs,
the
ini,
large
dime
or
rehab
Superman
replacement
program
manual.
Rehab.
B
Our
improvements
for
developer
for
development
and
sort
of
force
made
replacement
was
a
much
smaller
programs.
The.
A
B
Program
like
I
mentioned
ionize
the
big
concern
for
sewer
systems,
because
that
that's
what
you
know
could
limit
Your
Capacity.
So
this
this
program
consists
of
realigning
treacherously,
realigning
the
sanitary
sewer
Mains
that
are
or
smaller
diameter
standard
source
of
the
12
inches
10
inches,
eight
inches
servings.
So.
B
B
K
B
K
B
B
A
K
B
B
Know
that's
going
to
be
very
old,
but
because
we're
rehabbing,
so
many
of
these
pipes
mining.
You
can
see
that
in
that
darker
Blue
Line,
how
we're
keeping
the
average
pipe
age
way
down
and
then
we're
also
just
doing
you
know
a
couple
percent
per
year
so
that
we
don't
end
up.
Oh
now,
we
just
did
like
half
the
county
in
one
year
and
four
years
from
now,
we'd
be
kind
of
screwed
and
stuff.
So
so
we're
nice
we're
spacing
out
really
good
to
keep
it.
You
know
well.
C
K
B
On
attractively
all
the
small
diameter
Linings
by
2031.,
but
then
that
leads
larger
diameter
rehabs,
so
that
program
focuses
on
pipes
that
are
15
inch,
diameter
larger.
So
these
are
much
more
complex.
There
are
these
intricate
sewer
bypasses?
So
that's
what
you
see
on
the
picture
on
the
right
where
we
have
the
sewer
bypass,
the
four
Mount
run:
Interceptor
sewer
there
that
crosses
the
Four
Mile
Run
Trail.
So
you
have
the
trail
temporarily.
Elevated
over
the
bypass
for
the
bypass
is
just
above
ground.
B
K
B
The
cic
program
includes
inspection
and
rehabs,
and
so
our
main
replacement
program,
that's
where
we
have
to
dig
new
Replacements,
that's
typically
spot
repairs
or
new
Mains
to
solve,
maybe
certain
like
design
issues
that
includes
our
stubble
elimination
program.
A
stop
is
where
you
have
people
connected
Upstream
of
a
manhole,
but
there's
no
manhole
Upstream
with
them.
So
then
there's
no
way
to
clean
that
line
to
serve
those
like
properties.
So.
B
Whole
bunch
of
those
up,
but
we're
still
down
about
three,
there
are
minimum
super
diameter.
Size
is
eight
inches,
but
we
still
have
some
really
six
inch
Mains
around
throughout
the
county.
So
we're
also
process.
This
program
addresses
that
by
upgrading
those
to
eight
inches
eight
inches,
you
can't
line
a
six
inch
super
main
so
eight
inches
that
required.
So
that's
another
benefit
to
go
to
images.
But
yes,
there
were
you
know:
survey
Replacements
are
very
challenging
because
they're
just
so
deep
underground
that
one
that.
B
Charlatan
that
sewer
was
about
24
feet
deep,
you
kind
of
see
how
the
whole
ground
just
kind
of
gave
out
when
we
were
digging
that
far.
B
You
know
because
there's
all
kinds
of
underground
streams
throughout
the
county
that
you
don't
know
about
and
everything
yeah
it
encountered
a
bird's
nest
of
dry
utilities,
those
utilities
you're
playing
these
types.
It's.
K
B
Challenging
a
lot
of
specialized
equipment.
The
last
program
cover
that's
our
manhole
rehab
program.
You
know,
manhalls
are
a
great
source
of
ini.
I
said
that
picture
on
the
left.
You
can
see:
what's
the
pressure,
that's
basically
a
Scrabble
or
just
shooting
out
through
those
exposed
joints
in
that
brick
manhole,
and
so
for
our
for
our
manhole
rehab
program.
We
just
do
a
spray
on
epoxy
and
then
that
you
know
kind
of
seals
up
all.
K
B
Over
our
our
preventive
maintenance
program,
that's
our
base
there,
our
biggest
program
for
internal
staff
resources.
So
that's
what
we
spend
most
of
our
time
with
you
know
we
have
four
County
Crews
dedicated
to
Flushing
sewer
Mains.
So
you
know
flushing's
really
critical,
because
most
backups
are
caused
because
there's
debris
in
the
line
and
then
and
then
people's
flow
can't
can't
get
there.
Then
the
backs
up
with
the
houses
and
all
that
they
call
it
County
all
right
thanks.
B
So
they
can
go
back
out
flush,
the
May
and
then
fix
the
problems,
so
is
is
preventative
maintenance
there.
These
are
where
we
have
to
flush
a
frequent
cycle,
and
so
the
you
know,
they're
really
made
up
of
three
three
programs:
Greece
trouble
and
true
root.
B
Greece.
Those
are
all
the
one
month.
Three
month
cycle
trouble
could
be
30
90
180
days,
trade
rates
aren't
on
a
cycle
they're
just
on
a
five-year
cycle
where
the
ones
with
true
reissues.
First,
we
basically
take
a
root,
cutting
nozzle
and
put
it
on
our
flushing
are
flusher.
Then
we
cut
all
the
roots
out
of
it
and
then
we
put
inhibiting
foam
into
it
and
every
five
years,
then
we
go
back
and
apply
that
phone.
That's
the
triggers
or.
K
B
From
getting
into
the
store
invested
enough
and
stuff
yeah
the
grease,
that's
obvious,
that's
just
where
you,
you
know
restaurants
or
caters
or
dumping
a
bunch
of
grease
down
the
the
drain,
and
then
you
know
blocks
of
the
sewer
main.
So
we
have
to
flush
all
that
out
and
vacuum
it
troubles
are
usually
where
we
have
four
slopes.
So
for
you
to
you,
just
if
you
don't
have
a
steep
enough
slope
for
your
sewer
main
the
solids
can
settle
at
the
bottom
and
then
that
also
blockage.
B
K
B
The
county
passed
a
fats
oils
and
grease
ordinance,
January
2022,
so
that's
I
mean
it's
it's
so
new,
but
it
seems
like
it's
making
it
right
now
we're
just
kind
of
getting
off
the
ground.
All
the
restaurants
have
to
register
into
this
platform,
called
Swift
comply
and
or
they're
like
Roots
traps
and
their
inspections,
things
like
so
hopefully
that
will
help
reduce
heat
three
serious
but
and.
B
Investigating
trying
to
see
which
house
is
contributing,
it's
probably
because
obviously
it's
something
like
your
favorite
business
or
something
like
that
and
then
now
we'll
look
at
trouble
like
I
said
these
are
the
ones
with
the
inaccurate
slopes
or
you're.
Just
not
getting
that
self-cleansing
velocity.
B
They're
just
kind
of
spread
out
all
throughout
the
county,
and
so
you
know
by
keeping
these
on
our
you
know
frequent
cycle.
We
could
buy
services,
our
other
major
programs,
a
grid
program.
So
basically,
you
know
we
spent
so
much
time
on
these
we're
going
to
maintenance,
sewers
that
and
really
don't
have
a
lot
of
time
to
spend
on
the
other
sewers.
Unfortunately,
so
our
goal
is
every
five
years
to
flush
every
12
inch,
diameter
and
smaller
sewer,
at
least
once
over
that
time.
B
Unfortunately,
about
over
the
last
five
years
about
two-thirds
of
the
sewers
we
haven't
even
gotten
to
just
because
we
spend
so
much
time
in
Greece
on
the
trouble
and
stuff,
so
master
plan
really
tried
to
figure
out
okay.
How
can
you?
How
can
we
start
achieving
this
goal
that
we
basically
need
to?
You
know
adjust
Utility
Billing
so
that
we
can
generate
an
extra
330
000
a
year
to
basically
give
all
these
remaining
segments
to
a
contractor.
B
K
L
B
B
This
exhibit
shows
the
board
and
Sewer
backup
since
1991
same
passing,
the
pretty
cyclical
but
they're.
You
know
overall
they're
pretty
low
because
you
know
based
on
National
benchmarking
standards.
Good
goal
is
to
have
193
backups
per
thousand
miles
of
sewer
per
year.
That'd
be
consider
very
good.
So
if.
J
B
J
B
Asset
Management:
that's
really
critical,
the
Public
Works
departments,
making
sure
you're
you're
documenting
all
the
assets
you
maintain
and
when
you're
maintaining
them,
how
much
the
cost
to
keep
your
records.
You
know
all
that
stuff
and
then
so
we're
really
national
leaders.
In
that
front
we
use
this
cartograph
Asset
Management
Systems.
So
all
our
sewer
mans
are
in
there.
We
track
all
our
maintenance
activities.
B
B
We
try
to
go
backups
and
hear
everything
now
so,
for
example,
I
click
on
Instagram
account
and
see
the
work
history
and
then
also
calculates,
like
a
life
expectancy
of
times,
you're
a
replacement
program
based
on
that,
we
also
use
a
program
called
it
pipes.
That's
where
we
put
all
our
CCTV
footage.
So
that's
sewer
on
the
left
there,
you
kind
of
see
that
that's
a
that's
one
with
the
crease
problem.
You
can
see
this
grease
marks
after
it
was
flushed
leaves
those.
J
L
B
Can
see
you
know
basically
our
operators,
they
use
like
an
Xbox
controller,
to
move
a
crawler
inside
the
pipe
and.
B
B
Up
to
cardograph,
and
so
back
to
the
master
plan,
I'll
talk
about
you
know,
one
of
the
big
things
is
just
making
sure
you
have
adequate
capacity
for
future
growth
and
development
as
part
of
our
master
plan.
We,
our
consultant,
you
know,
developed
a
dynamic,
Sanitary,
Service
System
model
of
all
the
county
sewers
brought
previously
to
that
about.
We
had
a
sewer
CAD
model
of
just
the
larger
diameter
sewer,
so
this
was
a
big
upgrade,
so
we
can.
B
K
B
The
county
and
see
the
flow,
the
dry
flow,
the
wet
weather
flow.
You
know
any
top
flow
like
over
the
future
conditions
existing
conditions.
So
it's
really
it's
a
really
great
helpful
software.
B
Dude
to
calibrate
generate
the
model.
They
did
a
lot
of.
K
B
2019,
as
well
as
using
the
water
billing
information
from
that
period,
so
the
water
billing
information,
that's
used
to
generate
the
dry
flows
to
know.
What's
what's
in
your
system
during
the
operating
event,
the
love
the
flow
monitoring
tells
you
how
much
like
basically
I
and
I
are
getting
in
your
system
during
these
brainstorms.
B
You
know
the
future
conditions
model
at
the
2045
future
industry
model.
So
that's
based
on
the
Cog,
that's
Council
of
governments.
They
publish
it.
You.
C
B
Make
was
to
add
hq2,
so
that
was
So
based
on
like
what
happened
in
kova.
That's
now
a
very
conservative
model.
So,
but
still
we
used
it
in
our
and
then
you
know
for
the
wet
weather,
that's
kind
of
your
Peak
condition
for
sanitary
sewers.
So
for
that
reason
the
10-year
design
storm
for
capacity
planning
it
doesn't
make
any
sense
really
to
go.
B
Some
people
say
well:
I
didn't
use
the
100
Year
storm
and
you
know
all
that
extra
water
that
you
get
there
doesn't
enter
the
sand
and
Sanders
was
the
closest.
It
doesn't
really.
You
know
just
because
you
have
those
defects
cracks
that
doesn't
mean
more
water
inters
when
you
have
higher
artistic
storms,
so
so
here's
a
shot
from
our
modeling
software.
It's
called
pcswem,
so
just
kind
of
a
shot
of
what.
B
B
You
know,
probably
because
of
all
the
the
decreased
water.
You
said
all
that
over
the
in
the
past
30
years,
but
it
was
so
especially
passed
about
the
exists
in
a
future
dry
weather
conditions.
We
only
had
one
simulated
overflow
in
the
2045
wet
weather
conditions
overflows
when
sewage
would
be
shooting
out
top
of
a
manhole,
and
then
we
just
had
three
surcharging
sewer
segments
of
the
2045
blood
conditions,
but
they
still
have
more
than
one
load
of
rewards.
So
what
that
would
mean
is
nobody.
H
B
Actually
be
back
in
oven
those
three
spots,
because
it
would
all
be
below
the
where
the
buildings
are
connecting
to
the
pipe
the
pipe.
B
I'll
I'll
talk
about
where
the
over
head,
so
that
was
on
North
Oakland
Street,
just
south
of
North
Glebe
Road,
that's
that's
kind
of
where
that's
like
cut
up
their
Ethan
Allen
pump
station
off
of
Military
Road.
So
that's
where
our
goal
for
enforcement
out
falls
into
photography.
So.
B
Plans
right
now
the
upgrade
that
pipe
so
that
we
can
resolve
this
issue
so
that
that
project
will
start
construction
in
spring
in
2024.,
and
you
know
lastly,
I'll
summarize
our
our
action
plan
recommendations.
So
yeah
is
there,
you
know,
develop
more
detail
in
the
actual
plan
document,
but
basically.
K
B
B
B
C
B
To
flush
things
larger
than
18
inches,
because
there's
just
so
much
flow
in
it,
it
keeps
it
clean
unless
you
get
some
huge
blockage
or
something,
but
but
the
contractor
is
great
equipment
to
plus
the
15
and
18
inches,
and
it's
only
33
000
a
year.
So
we
thought
that
was
a
good
thing.
K
B
K
B
B
Flow
you're
only
going
to
see
like
half
accident
I
would
like
to
employ
a
more
robust,
manhole
rehab
program.
We
have
a
stream
cross
inspection
program
right
now
that
we
look
at
string
Crossings
about
once
every
10
years,
because
you
know
our
sewer
is
drained
by
gravity
streams.
Are
the
natural
like?
That's
that's.
B
Basically,
where
gravity
dictates
you
know
water
flows,
so
we
have
lots
of
sanitary
sewers
that
are
within
stream,
Crossings
and
stream
areas
that
would
support
the
you
know,
keep
inspecting
those
make
sure
these
exposed
sewer
pipes
that
you
see
engulfing
dolls,
that
run
that
you
know
they're,
not
linking
or
any
kind
of
risk
or
anything
we'd
like
to
have
more
overflow
reporting,
where
we
just
have
kind
of
standardized.
B
So
that
you
know,
when
their
staff
changes,
that
it
doesn't
change
numbers
that
overflow
is
that
it
just
consisted
about.
You
know
periodically
update
design
standards.
You
know
we're
already
doing
that.
Our
most
recent
standard
update
was
just
to
require
a
tracer
wire
on
house
lateral
so
that
you
know
sometimes
you
know,
contractors
ATT
5G
fiber
on
the
sidewalk.
They
might
hit
like
somebody's
sanitary
level,
break
it,
but
that's
because
it's
not
registered
with
Mr
utility.
So
but.
B
B
Unfortunately,
the
bats
oils
and
grease
program
and
update
that
is
accordingly.
You
know,
as
it
gets
older
and
stuff,
then
just
update
the
master
plan
again
in
2033,
which
would
be
10
years
from
now.
All
right,
you
know
really.
Our
next
steps
are
to
hopefully
do
the
request
to
advertise
here
in
this
fall
and
then
go
to
the
County
Board
adoption
at
the
December
16th.
K
B
You
can
provide
comments
on
the
sanitary
cert
master
plan
by
Google
Arlington
County
sanitary
server
master
plan
and
we'll
just
take
it
right
there.
Then
you
can
just
email
me
your
comments
at
Jay,
Lawler,
Arlington
va.us.
If
you
got
any
questions
about
it,.
A
Thank
you
very
much
since
now,
with
to
any
of
the
issues,
have
any
questions
or
comments
about
student
folks
planned.
A
I
have
a
couple
glad
to
see
that
you're
now
telling
the
story
about
our
past
and
the
people
plan
for
the
future.
On
this,
my
takeaway
of
this
is
to
tell
me
if
I'm
misreading,
it
is
that
at
least
20
45,
both
our
sewer
system
and
our
sewer
treatment
plant
have
more
than
enough
capacity
for
the
expected
growth
population
growth.
A
That's
correct,
yep,
okay,
that
our
sewer
system
itself
is
in
pretty
good
shape
that
we've
actually
been
renewing
it
over
the
past
number
of
years,
so
that
the
large
majority
of
sewer
lines
have
been
effective,
they're
effectively,
new
yep,
okay,
good,
that's
good
to
know
so
now.
I've
also
noticed
when
I
go
down.
Four
Mile
Run
on
my
trail
that
if,
after
the
various
storms,
more
and
more
of
the
pipes
are
exposed,
are
those
sanitary
sewer
pipes
or
those
storm
sewer
pipes
which
part
of
Four
Mile
Run.
B
A
You
on
South
Arlington,
okay,
those
are.
B
J
K
A
B
A
K
A
And
back
to
work,
so
it's
pretty
clear
that
order
usage.
Well,
this
work
capacity.
What
goes
into
the
servers
is
depend
on
the
amount
of
water
that
people
use,
that
people
use
in
their
offices,
home
schools,
those
sorts
of
things
yeah,
it's
a
clean
water,
that's
pumped
in
that
ends
up
mostly
not
entirely
mostly
going
into
consumers,
so
it
is
where
population
dependent
and
building
it's
people
dependent
on
how
much
water
is
pain
is
yeah
for
the
that
goes
into
Sanitary
Service,
and
it's
not
really
whether
for
the
most.
B
Part
yeah,
no,
because
yeah
I've,
just
in
the
Summers
people,
wanted
a
lot
better.
A
Okay
and
again
that
gets
back
to
given
that
Capital
use
or
has
been
trending
downward
pretty
consistently
for
how
many
years,
20
years
now
10
years,.
J
A
K
A
I'm
doing
more
in
the
reason
I'm
asking
this
is
that
we
do
get
concerns
we've
heard
in
any
number
of
things,
with
eho,
with
Boulevard,
with
individual
projects
that
I'm
sure
we
went
to
this
you
know,
should
we
do
a
study
this
year
that
we
have
to
pass?
Well,
the
point:
is
you
have
done
those
studies?
So
that's.
What
you're
talking
about
here
is
that
you
have
done
county-wide
studies
that
show
we
have
passing
that
we
actually
have
more
capacity
today
than
we
did
20
years
ago
and
so
to
a
certain
extent
yeah.
A
B
Yeah,
that's
correct
and
I
mean
in
a
nice
Boulevard
that
split
so
many
different
sewer
sheds.
You
know
what
part
of
that
quarter.
You
are
that's.
One
of
the
reasons
is
not
a
pass
issue
with
increased
density
level
pull
forward
or
because
it
doesn't
just
flow
like
West
to
Easter,
and
it's
split
in
so
many
different
areas,
so
it
has
very
minimal
impact.
K
A
Very
good,
those
are
my
questions.
E
Yes,
I
mean
I
just
appreciate
the
presentation
and
have
several
of
these
fixes
are
pretty
low
cost
to
the
county
and
I.
Don't
really
have
any
questions.
I,
just
I
appreciate
all.
C
The
information
I
really
learned
a
lot
I
had
a
quick
question,
no
go
ahead
so
that
event
that
you
said
about
a
year
ago
where
a
plane
broke.
How
do
you
is
that,
essentially,
like
citizen.
B
Dependent
to
alert
you
that
one
was
somebody
was,
it
was
off
like
one
of
the
wooden
bridges
on
the
at
that
points.
The
WWE
Trail,
but
I
think
it
was
between,
like
it
was
just
north
of
like
Columbia
Pike,
just
at
like
more
than
the
Sparrow
Pond
yeah
yeah,
somebody
saw
like
a
tree
leaning
on
a
manhole.
B
They
took
a
picture
and
sent
it
to
us
and
so
yeah
I
kind
of
like
you
know,
if
you
see
any
sort
of
sewer
issue
that
looks
like
it
or
like
water
coming
out
of
the
street,
you
know
you're
supposed
to
call
703-228-6555
and
then
that's
how
you
can
report
to
us
yeah
for,
like
the
WWE
Trail,
like
sometimes
people
are
the
first
ones,
because
that
trail
was
so
much.
A
Okay,
yeah
I
I
actually
do
that
the
constant
was
quite
modest
for
the
size
of
this
County
and
we're
getting
there's
a
lot
of
bang
for
the
buck
from
that
sewer,
rehab
project
and
the
manhole
projects
and
all
of
those
Kudos.
Okay,
it's
working.
A
Okay,
any
further
questions
on
this.
Thank
you.
We
look
forward
to
hearing
you
at
the
before
the
Planning
Commission
great
thanks
and
that
concludes
oh.
Do
we
have
any
public
comments
for
this
sanitary
sewer
portion
of
the
lrcbc?
A
I,
don't
know
okay
well,
since
I
haven't
heard
from
anybody
otherwise,
and
no
one
has
signed
up.
I
declared
the
sanitary
sewer
lrpc
closed
adjourned
will
now
turn
the
meeting
over
to
commissioner
Shaw
leave
for
the
land
links
Boulevard
portion
of
this
beauty
before
you
start,
though
I
do
want
to
note
that
I
am
president
of
the
language
people
of
our
alliance.
I'm.
A
C
You
yeah
thank
you
John
for
the
great
accreditation
Center
thorough.
We
didn't
have
any
questions
with
that
I
think
now
we
roll
into
SOC
code
I'm
not
going
to
be
doing
introductions
and
or
any
Preamble
so
I
will
hand
it
over
to
Steph
for
their
presentation,
great.
D
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Kelly
Brown
and
I
am
a
section
supervisor
in
the
comprehensive
Planning
Group
in
the
planning
division
here
in
Arlington,
County
and
I've
been
supporting
the
links
planning
process
during
the
entirety
of
the
the
planning
process,
present
staffs
considerations
and
recommendations
for
General.
Ladies
plan
amendments,
Master
Transportation
plan
amendments,
zoning
warrants
amendments
as
implementation
items
or
the
adoption
that
would
go
along
with
the
adoption
of
the
Langston
Boulevard
area
plan.
This
fall,
so
I
will
provide
an
overview.
D
Some
background
on
the
planning
context
for
Langston
Boulevard
tonight.
I
will
present
the
general
Aidan's
plan
amendments
domestic
Transportation
plan
and
zoney
Lawrence
amendments
that
we're
recommending
I
will
walk
through
some
next
steps.
Some
follow-on
work,
we're
recommending.
D
So,
as
I'm
sure
I'm
all
familiar
with,
we
have
been
looking
at
the
Langston
Boulevard
Corridor
over
the
course
of
several
years
to
develop
a
new
plan
for
the
corridor.
This
is
the
entirety
of
the
planning
area
shaded
in
dark
gray,
with
the
distant
neighborhood
areas
indicated
in
these
boxes
on
the
screen,
and
we
have
been
in
this
planning
process
for
several
years.
D
We
are
drawing
near
to
the
end
at
the
end
of
phase
three
drafting
the
plan
and
really
moving
into
refining
the
plan
and
recommending
plan
adoption,
which
also
is
recommended
to
include
certain
implementation
items
to
allow
for
at
the
planned
Vision
to
be
realized.
And
that's
what
we're
here
to
discuss
tonight.
D
You
don't
necessarily
need
to
go
through
all
you
know.
All
of
this
material
I
think
it's
been
presented
in
the
past
the
different
lrpc
meetings
and
then
the
draft
plan,
but
I
did
just
want
to
mention
it
tonight
that
it's
really
anchoring
what
we're
recommending
in
terms
of
General
land
use,
plan,
amendments,
sustainability,
Environmental,
environmental
resilience
and
Equity
at
its
foundation.
D
There's
also
policies
and
recommendations
in
the
plan
in
distinct
issue
areas,
land
use,
economic
Vitality,
housing,
public
schools
and
Facilities,
building,
Forum
historic
and
cultural
resources,
and
then,
with
regards
to
the
public
realm
Transportation
connectivity
and
Urban
Design
public
spaces
and
sustainability
and
versus
the
Legacy.
The
plan
also
includes
design
guidelines
and
principles
that
should
should
guide
future
reinvestment
on
the
court
So.
The
plan
does
have
physicals
for
each
of
those
topic
areas.
D
So
the
the
implementation
items
that
we're
here
to
talk
about
tonight
are
really
intended
to
communicate
the
new
planning
vision
for
the
Langston
Boulevard
corridor
and
the
the
goal,
the
the
policies
and
recommendations
on
the
general
land
use
plan
or
in
the
general
news
plan
and
the
mass
transportation
plan
and
then,
secondly,
to
amend
the
zoning
ordinance
to
encourage
reinvestment
consistent
and
the
the
focus
of
these.
D
These
recommendations
is
within
the
core
study
area,
which
is
the
area
identified
in
the
plan,
as
recommended
for
change
over
time
and
we're
at
the
planned
vision
and
the
goals
respond.
D
The
first
would
be
adding
a
new
links
in
Boulevard
planning
district
to
the
general
land
use
plan,
and
this
would,
as
I
mentioned
before,
Encompass
all
areas
with
a
new
planning
vision,
both
the
mixed
use,
district
and
the
residential
district
as
they've
been
identified
in
the
plan,
and
this
would
be
accompanied
by
new
text
in
the
general
language,
booklet,
articulating
the
vision
and
the
goals
for
this
area.
D
We
are
also
recommending
to
add
Langston
Boulevard
as
a
planning
border
to
the
back
of
the
the
glove
map,
as
as
a
as
a
force
planning
Corridor
in
the
county.
D
D
The
third
category
is
to
remove
the
housing
Conservation
District
designations
that
currently
exists,
On
the
Border,
where
there's
overlap
with
the
new
Langston
Boulevard
district,
and
the
purpose
of
this
change
would
be
really
to
help
clarify
the
plan
goals
for
these
areas
that
we
are
seeking
to
maintain
the
existing
residential
nature,
but
promoting
increased
density
to
expand
housing
choices,
increase
Supply,
increase,
committed,
affordable
units
and
also
achieve
other
plant
goals,
and
then,
finally,
we
are
recommending
to
adjust
the
charity
or
revitalization
District,
consistent
with
guidance
that
came
about
during
approval
of
expanded
housing
options.
D
D
Detail
on
that
specific
recommendation,
expanded
housing
options
is
not
permitted
within
planning
districts
identified
on
the
general
land
use
plan,
and
that
was
really
intended
during
eho
to
allow
those
planning
districts
to
continue
to
be
focused
on
achieving
the
plan
goals
in
those
area
plans
and
have
expanded
housing
options
be
a
new
option
in
the
area
in
all
other
lower
density
residential
areas.
During
the
expanded
housing
options
approval
process,
certain
parcels
were
identified
within
the
Cherrydale
revitalization
District,
where
change
is
really
unlikely
to
occur.
D
Given
adjacent
mixed-use,
Redevelopment
and
ehm
may
be
a
preferred
choice
for
those
for
those
homeowners
for
reinvestment,
and
so
there
was
a
recommendation
during
each
of
the
study
and
propose
changes
through
plan
Langston
Boulevard
to
to
really
address
that
issue,
and
so
consistent
with
that
that
that
recommendation
in
eho
staff
did
take
a
closer
look
at
the
charity.
Revitalization
district
and
has
identified
18
Parcels,
where
it
would
be
appropriate
to
remove
them
from
the
charity
over
by
the
location
District
because
they
are
adjacent
to
areas
where
Freedom
almond
has
already
occurred.
D
So
these
are
the
maps
that
we
would
recommend.
We
would
request
to
advertise
as
changes
to
the
general
land
use
plan
with
planned
adoption
and
they
indicate
in
red
the
location
of
the
new
Langston
Boulevard
planning
district,
the
addition
of
public
space,
the
General
locations
for
public
space
that
the
black
triangles
and
then
the
removal
of
the
housing
Conservation
District
planning
districts
that
are
outlined
in
black
on
these
maps
and
those
are
proposed
to
be
removed.
D
And
this
is
for
it's
a
very
long
Corridor,
so
we
kind
of
divided
it
up
over
three
areas
on
that
slide
and
then
area
5,
West
and
area
5
East.
On
this
slide
again,
these
areas
show
in
red
the
proposed
edition
of
a
planning
district
for
Langston
Boulevard
edition
of
open
space
triangles
and
removal
of
housing,
Conservation
District
areas
that
overlap
with
the
new
Planning
District.
D
H
Hi
everyone
Kristen
Calkins
as
introduced,
so
we're
going
to
be
making
some
modifications
to
the
MTP,
oh
as
well,
to
support
the
and
integrate
the
recommendations
that
have
been
made
in
plan
Langston
Boulevard.
The
first
is
related
to
the
MTP
map
and
areas
planned
for
New
streets,
we're
going
to
represent
areas
on
the
map
that
show
kind
of
that.
We
want
to
see
a
new
grid
created
in
our
in
our
activity,
areas
for
the
plan.
H
The
second
is
for
areas
where
we're
planning
bike
Lanes
on
Langston
Boulevard,
where
we
hadn't
in
the
past.
Those
are
on
two
different
segments.
One
is
from
North
Quincy
Street
Military
Road
to
Old
Dominion,
Drive,
North,
Culpepper,
sorry
from
yeah
nope.
That
is
not
right.
My
apologies,
one
is
from
North
Quincy
Street
to
Old
Dominion
and
then
the
other
is
from
North
Culpepper
to
North
Langston
North
Lexington.
H
Those
are
places
where,
in
our
cross
sections,
we
think
there's
space
there's
room
one
through
just
repainting
and
reconstruction
of
the
roadway
in
its
existing
right-of-way,
the
other,
through
expansion
of
the
right-of-way
through
Redevelopment,
for
bike
Lanes
to
be
accommodated.
If
we
want
to
move
to
the
next
slide,
we
can
show
what
the
draft
versions
of
these
Maps
look
like
so
on
the
zoom
in
you
can
see
that
we
have
the
areas
in
hatching
here.
These
are
the
areas
that
we
anticipate
new
streets
will
be
implemented
through
new
development.
H
One
of
the
things
we're
not
doing
is
we
are
not
putting
those
new
streets
on
this
map,
so
there
are
no
planned
streets
shown
on
this
map.
We
want
the
ability
to
look
at
the
plan
for
guidance,
but
to
have
the
flexibility
when
development
comes
in,
to
make
sure
that
we're
making
streets
work
for
the
time
and
place
that
we're
in
through
that
review
process,
and
then
the
next
slide
will
show
where
we're
adding
additional
bike
Lanes
so
I'm,
not
driving.
H
But
if
you
can
take
a
look
at
the
map,
you'll
see
between
the
that
new
hatching
between
North
Quincy
and
Old
Dominion,
and
then
you
can't
even
see
where
the
new
hatching
starts,
but
at
North
Culpepper
to
North
Lexington,
the
the
dotted
bike
Lanes
have
Extended
for
the
recommendation
on
the
map.
D
Please
Kristen
so
this
last
category
of
implementation
recommendations
is
for
zoning
orange
amendments
and
with
plan
adoption
we're
recommending
two
zoning
words
amendments.
The
first
is
to
permit
townhouses
by
site
plan
only
in
the
ra
1426
ra
818,
NRA
615
zoning
districts
in
the
links
of
Boulevard
planning
district,
and
the
reason
for
this
is
that
townhouses
are
currently
permitted
by
siteland
only
in
housing,
Conservation
District
areas,
that
is
to
encourage
the
conservation
of
the
existing
multi-family
housing
in
those
areas.
D
When
we
remove
the
housing,
Conservation
District
area
in
Langston,
Boulevard
planning,
district
town
houses,
but
no
other
actions
would
become
a
Buy
Right
Use
again
and
staff
is
recommending
this.
This.
The
zoning
orange
amendment
to
reinstate
that
site
plan
only
permission
for
townhouses,
because
townhouses
by
site
plan
only
would
limit
forms
of
development
inconsistent
with
planning
goals
to
better
achieve
through
multi-family
housing,
so
moderate
to
higher
levels,
residential
density.
It
really
helps
support
Urban
and
pedestrian-oriented
streetscapes
Consolidated
public
open
space
and
a
coordinated
multimodal
plan
street
cred.
D
The
second
zoning
orange
amendment
is
that
we're
recommending
at
this
time
is
to
amend
the
preamble
to
the
co
2.5
district
and
that's
really
only
to
clarify
its
application
right
now.
The
the
zoning
ordinance
indicates
that
this
district
is
appropriate
in
Metro
Transit
corridors
and
we
are
recommending
to
revise
NTC
planning
districts,
so
its
application
is
broader
and
consistent
with
actually
how
it's
currently
used
and
how
we
anticipate
that
that
zoning
District,
maybe
maybe
utilized
on
Langston
Boulevard
and
into
the
future.
D
D
The
it's
the
first
item
to
highlight
is
the
the
need
to
consider
the
appropriate
block
designations
and
Zoning
tools
that
would
best
meet
the
playing
goals
so
right
now
the
the
existing
General
land
use
plan
designations,
don't
support
the
the
building
Heights
and
the
densities
and
the
plan
goals
that
are
recommended
in
the
plan.
So
you
generally
explain
designations
would
be
appropriate
to
you
to
allow
for
that
plan,
Vision
to
be
realized,
and
so
there's
several
considerations
that
that
staff
is
is
looking
at
as
we
identify.
D
D
We
also
want
General
language
plan
designations,
to
set
clear
expectations
for
appropriate
zoning
districts.
The
application
processes,
whether
that's
a
use,
permit
or
a
site
plan
that
should
be
used
when
reinvestment
is
sat
and
also
expectations
and
opportunities
for
to
to
realize,
base
and
bonus
density
to
achieve
plan
goals.
D
We're
also
looking
at
the
designations
that
best
maintain
affordability
in
areas
of
existing
market
rate,
affordable
units
which
we
refer
to
as
marks
yet
also
provide
sufficient
incentives
to
create
committed,
affordable
units
to
replace
Mars
and,
finally,
we're
looking
at
board
design.
Look
we're
looking
at
designations
that
that
really
correspond
with
existing
zoning
districts
to
the
extent
practical,
practical,
practical
so
looking
to
really
use
a
Zone
districts
that
that
already
exist
rather
than
needing
to
create
a
new
zoning
District,
as
we
have
done
in
other
areas.
D
D
So
with
those
considerations
in
mind,
the
the
designations
that
we're
looking
at
vary
by
the
degree
of
change.
That's
anticipated
in
these
areas
in
areas
of
greatest
change,
both
in
a
mixed-use
district
and
a
residential
district,
we're
looking
at
medium
oah,
but
we're
also
looking
at
low
oah
in
the
mixed-use
district
areas
and
high
medium
residential,
medium
residential
as
well
in
the
residential
districts
in
areas
of
lesser
change,
we're
looking
at
low
oah
service,
commercial
or
potentially,
no
change
at
all,
and
that's
in
the
mixed
use.
D
Districts
in
the
residential
districts,
we're
looking
in
areas
of
lesser
change
and
potentially
low
medium,
residential,
medium,
residential
or
low
oah.
So
there's
lots
of
options
on
the
table
and
really
evaluating
the
pros
and
cons
of
each
also
important.
To
mention
at
this
time.
Is
that
we're
not
considering
proactive,
Global
movements?
So
we're
not
recommending
at
this
time
to
to
change
the
gulf
amendments,
and
this
is
really
given
zoning
ordinance,
affordable
housing
expectations
is
Sony
associated
with
applicant
initiatives.
Amendments.
D
However,
we
are
considering
the
creation
of
a
future
Club
map
within
the
final
area
plan
to
help
establish
expectations
for
private
property
owners
in
terms
of
what
would
be
appropriate
Club
amendments
to
request
with.
D
The
first
is
the
creation
of
a
new
use
permit
tool
for
areas
of
lesser
change,
to
facilitate
reinvestment,
we're
also
going
to
recommend
looking
at
opportunities
to
facilitate
near-term
interior
alterations
and
expansions
identifying,
if
there's
barriers
in
the
zoning
ordinance
that
hinder
that
sort
of
reinvestment,
and
then
there
may
also
be
some
additional
amendments
that
we
need
to
pursue
dependent
on
Final
Club,
designation
recommendations.
D
So,
in
terms
of
next
steps,
we
are
going
to
recommend
bringing
forward
an
initial
package
of
amendments
with
plan
adoption
and
those
are
the
ones
that
I
that
we
presented
tonight
for
the
for
the
Glock,
the
MTP
and
zoning
ordinance,
and
then
we
are
going
to
continue
studying
lab
designations
in
appropriate
zoning
districts.
D
There
is
potential
for
a
recommended
future
gut
map
with
plan
adoption
and
news.
Zoning
tools,
however,
will
be
recommended
for
additional
study
after
plan
adoption
as
a
near-term
implementation
item.
C
Thank
you,
Ms
Brown.
Thank
you,
Ms
Culkin
for
the
presentation,
I
guess
now
it's
with
the
committee
any
questions
or
comments.
E
E
So
can
you
walk
me
through
that
so
I'm
I'm
thinking
about
the
plan,
I'm
thinking
about
what
is
actually
going
to
be
in
the
RTA
here
so
like
again,
this
is
sort
of
a
Layman's
question,
but
like
thinking
about
these
different
districts,
then,
if
we're
not
going
to
be
making
Love
Changes,
then
you
know:
are
these
what
we
have
on
the
map
and
the
proposed
plan
like?
Are
we
locked
into
some
of
these
building
Heights
and
some
of
what's
on
the
map
like?
How
does
that?
How
does
that
work.
D
Yeah,
so
the
plan
will
provide
the
guidance
for
what's
appropriate,
okay
and
and
the
plan
will
also
have
a
glut
map
in
it.
Okay,
that
reflects
what,
in
the
future,
we
think
would
be
appropriate
okay.
So,
when
applicants
come
forward
with
proposals
for
redevelopment
or
reinvestment,
the
plan
would
provide
the
guidance
for
what
is
the
maximum
allowable
height.
What
sort
of
densities
are
appropriate?
D
There
is
a
there
is
an
expectation
in
the
zoning
ordinance.
There
are
contributions
to
affordable
housing
right
with
a
change
in
that
a
general
Landings
plan
designation.
So.
A
I
sort
of
want
to
purpose
this
first,
because
what
we're
talking
about
here
is
something
that
we'll
be
going
forward
for
the
request
to
advertise
the
RTA,
which
means
that
what
we're
talking
about
is
what
is
the
outer
limit
of?
What
will
be
what
the
County
Board
will
be
allowed
to
consider
that
they
could
recommend
something
less
than
what
is
in,
but
they
can't
go
beyond
them.
Is
that
correct.
A
So
I
don't
know
if
some
things
we're
not
quite
sure
what
how
that
would
work.
So,
yes,
I
appreciate
your
caveat
on
that
where
we
say
we're
going
to
be
looking
like
Co
2.5
to
be
defining
that
as
being
this
card
would
also
be
allowed
to
use
the
co2.5.
D
D
Well,
at
the
moment,
we're
not
recommending
any
general
land
use
plan
amendments
or
we
are
potentially
going
to
be
recommending
a
what
what
could
be
appropriate
designations
for
an
applicant.
You
know
a
private
property
owner
to
request,
doesn't
change
so
so
we're
not
really
locking
ourselves
into
anything,
we're
just
kind
of
recommending
what
we
think
would
probably
be
appropriate
in
the
future.
Okay
and
then
Outlet
can
could
come
forward
with
something
different.
It's
really
the
plan
I
think
that
would
be
providing
the
policy
guidance
for
the
board
to
consider
yeah
and.
M
Just
to
go
back
to
one
of
the
things
that
you
showed
on
the
last
slide
in
the
areas
of
greatest
change
where
we
are
looking
at
Heights,
you
had
it
seven
to
up
to
15
stories,
there's
potential
for
medium
office
apartment
hotel,
but
there's
also
potential
for
high
medium
residential.
So
that
comes.
You
know,
at
a
at
a
density
level,
greater
than
the
medium
office
apartment
hotel,
which
is
tied
to
co,
2.5,
so
I
again,
I.
Don't
think
that
we
are
at
a
fully
solidified
recommendation
at
this
point
and
we're
trying
to
move
forward.
A
I,
don't
have
a
problem
with
that.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
locking
ourselves
in
we'll
see
you
2.5
is
the
max
okay.
Thank
you.
You
mentioned
Heights.
Also
the
heights
that
then
are
mentioned
in
this.
Are
those
also
the
outer
limits
for
Heights
at
various,
then
various
spots
along
the
card
for
RTA
purposes,.
J
A
M
We
are
mapped
that
we,
you
see
as
the
appropriate
height
maximums
in
the
corridor,
but
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
communicate
here
tonight
and
as
we
move
forward
as
we
have
this
conversation
that
the
board
has
the
ability
to
deviate
from
the
heights.
As
this
is
just
policy
guidance
and
at
the
moment
we
are
not
intending
to
bring
forward
any
zoning
regulations
that
would
in
fact
codify
these
Heights
in
a
way
that
the
board
would
lose
that
ability
to.
You
know
in
extraordinary
circumstances,
to
consider
additional
height.
M
A
K
M
A
Is
still
an
option,
that's
correct!
Okay,
thank
you.
You
mentioned
tdrs
in
here,
which
is
great
staff.
Reporters
we're
happy
to
see
that.
Could
we
and
we
list
a
number
of
reasons
that
tdrs
could
be
used?
Could
we
have
Beyond
those
mentioned?
D
So
I
we've
identified
find
a
potential
for
transfer
development
rights
as
something
I,
a
future,
an
area
that
you're
study
we're
not
going
to
be
bringing
forward
any
specific
recommendations
related
to
TBR.
So
that's
that's.
A
A
F
A
Okay,
great
first
off
all
Langston
Boulevard
between
essentially
between
Roslyn
and
Spout,
Run
or
I-66,
is
their
provision
for
bike
facilities
along
that
wide
part
of
Langston
Boulevard
on
the
MTP.
So.
H
H
Can
pull
up
and
I'm
trying
to
pull
it
up
on
my
screen
before
I
say
something
that
I
need
to
double
check.
There
are
already
bike
Lanes
planned
on
Langston
Boulevard,
along
that
segment.
A
Great,
thank
you,
that's
good
to
know,
because
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
still
were
taking
advantage
of
that
extra
right
of
way
there.
When
you
mentioned
the
other
ones
being
added
those
two
other
sections
which
again
I
support,
I.
Think
it's
a
good
idea.
Are
we
talking
about
simple
stripes
on
the
road?
The
way
we
have
in
Cherrydale,
or
are
we
looking
at
some
sort
of
separated.
H
So
is
that
the
map
itself
here
is
not
that
prescriptive.
It
just
says
that
we're
doing
on
Route
bike
Lanes,
that's
something
that,
through
the
design
process,
we
have
cross-sections
in
Langston
Boulevard
that
we're
recommending,
but
the
the
map
itself
is
not
that
prescriptive.
It
gives
us
the
the
bike
lanes
are
planned
here
and
in
the
future
we
get
the
opportunity
to
implement
bike
lanes
because
of
that
on
a
VDOT
facility,
great.
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
cross
hatched
areas
which
again
I
think
this
is
a
good
idea.
I,
like
I
like
seeing
those
within
the
draft
plan
itself,
we
have
shown
certain
areas
that
would
where,
where
streets
could
go
or
would
go,
the
crosshatch
does
not
clearly
does
not
mandate
those
being
in
those
spots.
A
So
we
can
be
comfortable
in
saying
that
the
draft
plan,
by
showing
those
routes,
those
are
one
possible
option,
but
not
a
requirement
that
they'd
be
located
where
they
are
so
on
for
RTA
purposes
they
could.
This
is
considered
a
minimum,
but
we
could,
in
the
future,
put
those
streets
somewhere
else
or
not
put
them
depending
on
what
plans
come
forward
and
what
makes
sense
for
that
particular
site.
Yes,.
H
Ds's
perspective
is
that
by
not
prescribing
streets
we
actually
give
ourselves
the
most
amount
of
flexibility
in
the
future.
Great.
A
Thank
you.
That's
that's
good
to
know
that
sort
of
absolutely
the
answer
I
was
looking
for.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Let
me
see.
I
just
want
to
confirm
what
we
were
saying
that,
with
the
marks
by
saying
site
plan
only
that
that
will
then
lock
us
for
RTA
purposes
into
site
plan
for
townhouses,
where
there
are
those.
D
So
right
now
in
housing,
Conservation
District
areas,
townhouses,
are
permitted
by
site
plan.
Only
what
we
are
recommending
is
the
removal
of
those
HCG
areas,
because
the
guidance
for
Langston
Boulevard
is
kind
of
superseding
the
previous
guidance
for
those
areas.
Yet
we
still
believe
that
townhouses
by
site
plan
only
is
the
best
choice
for
this.
For
this
planning
area
because
townhouses
are
thyroid,
townhouses
would
not
allow
us
to
achieve
our
plan
folds
for
this
area.
It
would
limit
our
ability
to
get
coordinated,
Open
Spaces.
D
You
know
Urban
Street
fronts
and
a
form
of
development
that
just
really
meets
our
plan.
A
Good
I
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
understands
how
that
works
and
turning
for
charity
those
few
sites
in
there
under
the
current
Cherrydale
area
plan,
those
sites
could
have
been
redeveloped
into
something
way
more
dense
than
what's
on
there
now.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,
so
by
our
actually
by
our
removing
them,
we
are
allowing
more
density
that
actually
would
be
somewhat
less
dancing
than
what
could
have
been
built
there
anyway,
under
the
Cherrydale
District,
by
even
allowing
eho,
which
is
what
we're
doing
expect.
A
We
could
then
allow
more
deficit
there,
but
less
than
what
otherwise
would
have
occurred
in
the
Cherrydale.
Revitalization
District
theoretical,
hey,
good
I,
just
want
a
clarification
on
that.
So
good,
that's
good
to
know.
E
I
mean
I'll
I,
just
you
know,
associate
myself
with
the
sentiment
of
retaining
the
the
site
plans
for
these.
These
three
districts
that
you
mentioned
Kelly
I,
think
that
that's
right,
I
think
I
think
it
still
aligns
with
what
we
were
thinking
back
in
2017
when
those
Districts
The
District
was
established,
so
I
think
that's
sort
of
the
way
to
go.
I
also
think
that
we
need
to
be
thinking
about
ways
to
maintain.
E
You
know
some
of
what
we
already
have
there
and
so
that
it
does
make
it
a
little
bit
more
difficult
if
it's
going
to
be
site
plan
only
for
redevelopment,
we
thought
about
that
on
Columbia
Pike
as
well,
you
know
casts
are
important,
but
you
know
we're
thinking
about
housing,
especially
affordable
housing.
It's
much
easier
to
preserve
sort
of
what
you
have
you
know.
If
it's
you
know,
working
one
question
I
do
have
is
one
of
the
implementation
strategies.
E
You
talked
about
a
special
exception
approval
process
in
areas
of
luster
change,
up
to
five
to
six
stories.
So
I
just
have
a
general
question
there,
which
is
I,
know
that
you
know
some
folks
along
the
corridor.
Are
sort
of
concerned
about
Legacy
businesses
are
concerned
about
some
of
those
areas
where
you
know
retail
is
are
we
are
we
concerned
that
if
we
basically
provided
a
streamline
process,
maybe
we're
not
concerned?
Maybe
it's
a
different
policy
goal,
but
you
know
I'm,
not
sure
everybody
necessarily
wants
to
see
those
shopping.
E
M
M
So
would
we
start
to
see
some
transformation
of
the
corridor,
and
some
would
say
you
know,
let's,
you
know,
keep
everything
as
is
I'm
sure
that
certainly
will
be
a
a
sentiment
of
some
but
I
think
that
to
fulfill
the
the
multimodal
vision
and
trying
to
expand
access
for
all
modes
of
travel,
to
bring
more
households
and
residents
to
the
community
that
can
help
support
some
of
those
businesses
in
their
existing
form
or
possibly
if
they
find
a
new
shop
front.
A
Yet
or
part
of
my
understanding,
involving
this
for
over
10
years
now,
is
that
we
have
a
lot
of
very
small
Holdings
up
and
down
the
corridor
and
going
through
site
plan
to
develop
a
very
small
site,
just
doesn't
make
any
sense
sure
most
Property
Owners
just
won't
do
it.
If
you
want
to
get
some
of
the
benefits
we'd
like
to
get
from
this,
the
only
way
to
do
it
is
by
incentivizing
Property
Owners
to
go
ahead
and
redevelop
their
properties
in
something
site
plan
is
tough
and
I.
A
Think
what
we
had
been
advocating
as
a
community
was.
Can
we
find
a
way
to
allow
this
that
is
less
expensive
for
the
smaller
holders,
where
we
can't
have
consolidation
of
lots
that
make
it
viable?
But
if
it's
small,
is
there
some
other
way?
We
can
do
it?
I,
don't
know
whether
there's
an
answer
for
that
I
think
that's
what
staff
is
wrestling
with
sure.
E
I'm
going
to
bring
it
up
because
I
don't
I'm,
not
putting
my
thumb
on
the
scale
I'm
even
struggling
with
it,
because
I
think
you
know
Jen
put
it
well,
it's
it's
it's
this
idea
of
folks
wanting
a
corridor
that
has
a
certain
Vision,
but
in
order
to
do
that,
change
has
to
occur
and
change
is
hard
and
changes
are
ultimately
going
to
mean
certain
things
come
and
go,
and
so
that's
you.
A
Know
what
are
the
realities
of
the
characters,
great
retail
up
and
down,
but
a
lot
of
them
are
small
businesses
or
individual
businesses,
and
a
lot
of
them
are
reaching
the
point
where
a
lot
of
those
those
Proprietors
are
wanting
to
turn
the
reins
over
right.
Don't
have
anybody
who's
willing
to
take
it
off?
E
Sure
I
mean
I,
so
this
is
something
that
you
all
are
going
to
look
at.
You
know,
so
you
don't
have
anything
fully
baked,
but
you
know
when
I
look
at
like
streamlined
site
plan,
use
per
I.
Think
of,
like
maybe
midi,
form-based
code
kind
of
thing,
something
predictable
if
it's
like
less
than
five
or
six
stories
that
come
in
you're
you're
trying
to
give
predictability,
I
guess
is
what
I'm
saying
and
to
reduce
these
soft
costs.
So.
M
E
M
Not
wedded
to
a
fully
administrative
process
for
for
a
variety
of
reasons,
but
you
know
every
site's
different.
The
conditions
may
not
meet
a
level
of
precision,
that's
required
with
administrative
regulation,
so
therefore
they
may
come
to
the
County
board.
Meeting
modification
and
I
think
that
you
know
some
level
of
community
review
or
input
into
applications
is
still
were
the
objective.
So
we've
got
a
number
of
tools.
M
You
know
that
are
lighter,
but
they
still
require
an
application
process.
A
review
process
and
what
we're
indicating
is
a
public
hearing
process,
so
I
I
think
that
that
will,
in
exchange
for
some
of
the
things
that
meet
the
plan
goals
like
the
building
in
the
right
place.
You
know
our
thoughts
around
parking
and
some
of
the
public
improvements
and
I
think
that
will
spur
change,
but
it
will
it
rapidly
spur
a
change.
M
You
know,
probably
probably
not
because
it's
still
a
very
challenging
process
to
you
know
just
decide
to
make
those
change
and
think
about
that
level
of
coordination
with
your
neighboring
properties
as
well.
Sure
I
appreciate
that.
A
In
that
question,
the
map
or
area.
A
We
one
of
the
open
houses,
one
of
the
property
owners
that
abuts
the
or
area
wants
to
actually
be
included
in
the
core
area.
Do
we
know
whether
that
change
has
been
made?
It
was
one
the
single
family
house,
property
I'm,
not
sure
to
help.
N
There
were
a
few
gym
that
we
talked
through
and
the
ones
that
you
pointed
out
you
and
others
at
the
LBA
that
that
you
pointed
out
were
included
for.
C
I
have
a
similar
clarification
question
on
maps
and
sort
of
the
outlines
of
the
Heights
and
how
you
sort
of
implement
that,
like
let's
say
you
know,
half
of
a
property
is
on
like
a
10
story
and
the
other
half
is
on
a
seven
story.
N
I'm
so
happy
happy
to
answer
that,
so
we
have
very
specific
recommendations
for
step
backs
depending
on
whether
you're
adjacent
or
across
the
street,
from
low
density,
residential
edges
and
those
step
backs.
There
are
setbacks,
of
course,
right
for
the
ground
floor
and
and
for
the
podium
part
of
the
building,
but
the
Step
backs
are
also
very
specific
in
the
guidelines.
N
So
really,
when
you're
looking
at
a
site,
you
have
to
look
at
the
overall
dimensions
of
the
site
and
as
long
as
the
the
building
conforms
to
the
to
the
step
back
requirements,
we're
just
going
to
be
looking
at
those
Dimensions
specifically
for
a
site
and
making
sure
that
the
building
follows
the
minimum
distances
that
are
prescribed
there.
N
Right
so
the
maps
are
just
illustrating
the
general
height
zones
and
for
the
most
part
they
they
follow
the
step
backs.
But
you
know
some
sites
are
more
they're,
just
a
little
bit
more
like
unique,
let's
just
say
so.
The
recommendations
provide
more
clarity
to
that.
So,
if
you
have
a
site,
that's
let's
say
200
feet
as
long
as
your
building
a
setback.
N
If
it's
a
budding,
it's
one,
it's
one
distance.
If
it's
across
the
street,
it's
a
different
distance,
and
so
it
really
depends
on
whether
you're
abutting
across
the
street,
from
a
low
density,
residential
Edge
or
if,
if
not
and
and
there
are
very
specific
recommendations
for
each
of
those
conditions,.
C
N
If
the
site
cannot
accommodate
a
functional
floor
in
the
zone
that
we've,
let's
say
allocated
for
10
stories
or
or
higher,
then
then
they
just
won't
be
able
to
to
accommodate
that.
A
Oh
one
definitional
thing:
we're
now
creating
a
corridor
the
way
we
did
for
Ross
in
Boston
and
for
Richmond
Highway,
so
it
does
include
Cherrydale
and
his
Falls
Church,
so
essentially
be
from
North
Highlands
to
East
Falls
Church.
All
five
of
the
areas
will
then
be
defined
as
that
color.
K
C
Yeah,
so
I'll
follow
up
on
that.
So,
first
of
all,
it's
been
there
all
along
which
finally
recognizing
it,
but
can
you
sort
of
explain
a
little
bit
why
we're
calling
it
an
area
and
not
a
quarter
I
think
there
was
something
on
the
presentation
that
we're
not
calling
it
a
corridor.
D
It
will
be
identified
as
a
planning
Corridor
on
the
back
of
the
general
maintenance
plan.
Okay
for
consistency
with
the
rest
of
the
oral
Wars,
the
Russian
ball
super
Corridor.
The
plan
itself
is
being
called
the
links
to
move
our
area
plan
I.
M
Don't
know
if
I
think
that's
pretty
common
for
how
we've
named
plans
in
areas
where
we
weren't
otherwise
specifically
calling
for
our
revitalization
plan
and
then
also
we've
reserved
the
term
sector
plan
for
those
stations
specifically
at
Metro
stations.
I.
E
Question
no
I
mean
other
than
just
the
say
again,
because
there's
only
three
of
us
here,
but
you
know
the
explanation
of
how
this
works
as
far
as
the
glove
I
think
be
needed
for
our
colleagues,
because
I
I
certainly
was
getting
tripped
up
here,
but
I
appreciate
it.
A
M
C
Okay,
perfect,
thank
you
and
your
comments.
Do
we
have
any
public
speakers
that
signed
up
and
then
how
do
we
do?
We
do
digital
first
chat.
C
All
right
is
Katie
Wenger.
O
Awesome.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
for
your
time
tonight.
My
name
is
Katie
Wenger
and
I'm.
A
member
of
the
Housing
Commission,
but
tonight
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
voice
voice,
is
an
Interfaith
Community
organization
that
advocates
for
social
justice
issues
in
Northern
Virginia
and
we've
done
many
listening
sessions
among
community
members
who
are
burdened
by
the
unaffordable
cost
of
housing
in
Arlington,
especially
families
of
color
and
immigrants,
and
many
are
being
forced
to
pick
up
and
move
to
other
areas
or
paying
unsustainably
high
percentages
of
their
incomes
on
rent.
O
O
A
plan
lakes
in
Boulevard
is
a
major
opportunity
to
do
this
and
we
are
supportive
of
the
overall
goals
of
the
draft
plan,
but
the
current
draft
plan
falls
short
of
achieving
these
goals,
so
the
county
must
revise
the
plan
to
align
with
the
affordable
housing
master
plan
by
ensuring
that
2500,
committed,
affordable
units
are
included
along
Langston
Boulevard.
O
These
units
must
be
committed,
affordable
to
households
under
60
percent
of
the
area
mean
income
because
market
rate,
affordable
units
are
likely
to
disappear
over
the
years.
There
are
several
ways
to
achieve
this
goal.
The
first
is
by
allowing
higher
density,
which
will
promote
more
affordable
units
through
the
site
plan
and
bonus
density
process.
I'm
an
also
lowers
housing
costs
overall.
O
C
Thank
you
so
much
Alice
Hogan.
L
Good
evening,
thank
you.
My
name
is
Alice
Hogan
I
am
with
the
alliance
for
Housing
Solutions.
We
have
been
following
this
plan
for
several
years
and
a
huge
shout
out
to
so
many
staff
members
who
have
brought
this
plan
to
where
it
is
today
and
and
we'll
guide
it
to
its
fruition.
L
We
commend
the
vision
that
is
here:
inclusivity,
sustainability,
Equity,
crucial
elements
for
the
future
of
Arlington,
and
that
are
you
know,
part
of
this
plan
that
was
really
bringing
in
community
ideas
and
feedback.
We
know
we
need
tens
of
thousands
of
additional
housing
units
in
Arlington,
so
this
Corridor
is
crucial
to
help
us
realize
the
that
to
fill
that
Gap.
This
is
a
blant,
a
bold
plan
for
the
next
50
years.
L
So
we
need
to
keep
it
as
open
and
flexible
as
possible,
because
we
don't
even
know
what
we
will
need
then,
but
we
certainly
know
we
need
a
lot
of
intentional
development,
mostly
in
the
housing
realm,
and
if
we
provide
that
flexibility
and
and
maximum
potential
for
capacity
along
the
quarter.
L
We
know
that
is
the
way
that
affordable
units
will
be
able
to
be
produced
within
this
range
of
of
thousands
of
units,
as
a
previous
speaker
said,
we're
looking
for
a
minimum
of
2500
calves
among
those
new
housing
units
that
will
not
even
meet
the
needs.
These
needs
are
reflective
of
data
from
2013.,
so
it
is
an
absolute
man.
C
G
I'm
Alice
tool,
I'm
the
pastor
at
Planet
and
I,
live
in
Barcroft
and
where
I
live
in
bar
Croft
and
so
many
of
my
kids
friends.
G
They
live
in
apartments
that
are
too
tight
and
they
either
have
to
move
somewhere
else
out
way
out
or
into
Maryland
or
into
DC,
or
they
have
to
jam
so
many
families,
and
so
many
kids
into
a
single
apartment,
kids,
sharing
beds
and
bunks
and
it
is
unsafe
and
it
is
a
terrible
way
to
live,
but
families
love
Arlington
and
they
love
the
good
work
opportunities
and
they
love
the
good
schools
and
we
need
more
caps.
We
need
25
minutes,
2500,
minimum
and
I.
G
Look
at
the
great
schools
that
are
on
Langston
Boulevard
Williamsburg
just
got
an
award
a
blue
ribbon
award
and
we
need
more
units
there
for
for
families
to
live
I
remember
when
they
were
moving
families
out
of
the
Serrano,
because
the
conditions
were
so
terrible.
G
There
was
no
place
to
move
families,
then
we
look
at
our
seniors
and
seniors
need
housing
too
they're,
most
rapidly
growing
segment
and
then
in
my
congregation,
I'm
you
losing
young
adults
because
they're
moving
somewhere
else,
because
the
rent
is
too
high
and
they
may
not
be
in
committed
caps,
but
they
need
more.
We
need
more
housing
in
our.
Thank
you
and
I
really
recommend
the
staff
on
all
of
them.
C
Great
thank
you
Miss
Toole,
having
a
little
bit
of
a
hard
time,
Miss
Jolie!
That's.
F
I'm
Jolene
Pillsbury
and
we
live
in
that
little
quarter
of
the
quarter.
I
K
I
Really
thank
the
staff
who
have
listened
to
us
and
talked
and
engaged
us
and
educated
us
and
been
responsive
to
our
interest
in
having
more
new
neighbors.
You
know,
but
in
a
way
that
sustains
the
livability
and
in
many
ways
the
affordability
of
that
particular
quarter.
Oh
Lord,
it
is
our
understanding
that
currently,
we
sort
of
meet
the
density
and
the
affordability
and
even
the
diversity
goals
that
are
the
vision
of
the
plan
in
that
little
corner.
I
And
our
big
concern
is
that,
because
that
land
is
so
precious
the
development
that
occurs
there
will
not
create
affordable
housing.
It
will
actually
push
out
the
affordable
housing
that
already
exists
in
that
corner.
So
we
believe
from
a
long-range,
Planning
Commission
perspective.
There
might
be
an
opportunity
to
combine
the
goals
of
sustainability
with
the
goal
of
affordability.
I
For
example,
we
know
that
the
county
has
not
invested
or
created
incentives
to
transform
existing
buildings
into
either
residential
or
other
purposes,
because
it
the
environmental
impact
of
taking
an
existing
good
structure
and
not
completely
demolishing
it
rebuilding
it
that
environmental
impact
is
less
than
completely
destroying
and
building
a
new
and
I
truly
am
requesting
the
long-range
Planning
Commission.
Consider
as
one
of
their
recommendations
that,
if
you're
looking
into
the
long-range
future,
consider
that
sustainability
has
many
different
elements.
I
J
Aaron
Roberts
aye
Aaron
Roberts
I'm,
just
going
to
Echo
a
little
bit
of
what
Joe
Lee
already
shared
I.
J
I
think
the
only
concern
that
we've
had
consistently
is
a
question
of
proportionality
and
on
that
topic,
I'm
very
impressed
by
the
intimations
and
directions
that
we've
seen
from
County
staff.
A
return
to
I
think
the
implicit
wisdom
of
the
preliminary
concept
plan
from
Summer
of
2022.
J
J
So
just
to
conclude,
I
want
to
thank
everyone
for
their
time
and
the
vision
and
all
the
hard
work
I
know
it's
tireless
and
sometimes
feels
thankless,
but
I'm
here
thanking
all
of
you
for
all
of
your
efforts.
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much!
That's
all
the
public
speakers.
We
have
not
seen
anyone
else,
I,
don't
think,
there's
any
next
steps
right.
This
is
it
for
zoka.
Today
this
is
coming
to
find
the
planning
commissions
it'll
work
just
cover
that
and
I'm
forgetting
already.
So
that's
it.
Well
thanks.
Everyone
for
coming
out
to
the
meeting
today,
thanks
Steph
for
the
great
presentation
for
the
great
work,
thanks
John
for
West
for
the
earlier
lrpc
section.
That
was
very
good
and
with
that
have
a
good
night.
Everyone.