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Board of Adjustments - November 30, 2022
A
All
right
good
evening
we'll
call
the
order
to
November
30th
2020
meeting
of
the
board
of
adjustments
we're
going
to
start
off
first,
because
we
won't
have
a
meeting
before
Christmas
and
start
off
and
ask
Mr
Willie
to
please
say
a
Christmas
blessing.
C
B
You
to
God
for
the
board
members,
the
staff,
the
people
that's
here.
They
got
for
the
board
of
adjustment
meeting
that
God
asked
that
you
just
covers.
They
got
administer
time,
Spirits,
the
god
that
we
take
care
of
the
business
of
the
parish.
They
got
I'm
thankful
that
God
for
every
family,
the
god
that's
represented
here,
the
god-
acts
that
you
just
cover
them
during
this
holiday
season.
They
got
as
we
prepare
to
gather
for
Christmas
with
family
and
loved
ones.
B
A
Thank
you
Willie.
Next
up
we
have
a
new
member
here
tonight,
Mr
Brian
clibert,
and
we're
going
to
do
oath
office
with
Spence
alone.
Yes,.
D
Mr
clobber,
would
you
mind
standing
up
in
Mystic
Library?
Do
you
solemnly
swear
to
uphold
the
laws
and
the
Constitution
of
the
United
States,
the
state
of
Louisiana,
the
Parish
of
Ascension,
and
that
you
will
faithfully
and
impartially
discharge
and
perform
all
duties
incumbent
upon
you
as
a
zoning
Board
of
adjustment
member
to
the
best
of
your
ability
and
understanding
I
do.
Thank
you.
A
Right
next
up
we
have
a
roll
call
of
members:
Mr
Devin,
Graham,
Mr,
Brandon
Bennett,
president
Mr
Jake
Joe
frion,
president
Mr
Brian,
clibert,
Mr,
Willie,
Robinson
and
tonight
Mr
Eddie
Krause
was
not
able
to
make
it
so
next
up,
I'll
entertain
a
motion
to
accept
the
minutes
of
the
October
26
2022
meeting.
A
G
A
What
oh,
this
one
number
four
open
up
public
comments,
if
anybody
has
a
anything
to
say
for
against
the
board
of
adjustments.
A
Up,
no
one
signed
up:
okay,
close
the
public
comments.
If
anybody
in
the
audience
wants
to
speak
on
the
matter
we
have
before
us
tonight,
you
can
walk
up
and
see
Miss,
Jamaica
and
sign
a
card,
and
even
if
you
are
far
or
against
it
and
would
not
like
to
speak,
you
can
step
up
and
sign
a
card
and
not
speak.
Whichever
is
your
preference.
A
Bell
Savannah
Apartments
appeal
anybody
here
to
speak
on
this
matter.
Several
people
are
here
to
speak
on
this
map.
A
I
Going
on
yes,
sir
good
evening,
my
name
is
David
Cohn
I'm,
an
attorney
from
Baton
Rouge
I
represent
the
applicant,
in
this
case
the
owner
of
the
property
and
the
developer
of
the
property
who
are
intertwined
in
this
development
for
to
construct
these
apartments.
I
First
of
all,
let
me
thank
each
of
you
all
for
your
parents
tonight,
you're
away
from
your
families.
I
know
that
you're
doing
your
civic
duty,
you're
you're
here
to
try
and
do
the
best
that
you
can
fulfill
your
purpose
and
do
what's
right
for
the
parish
and
do
what's
right
by
your
regulations
and
everybody
else
too.
I
A
I
All
right,
this
matters,
your
zoning
review,
ID,
P2,
3000.22,
belsavan,
Apartments
appeal.
This
was
a
staff
matter
that
was
with
a
permit
denial
and
that's
why
we're
before
you?
There
was
no
zoning
change.
That
was
not
granted
anything
like
that
to
superiorly
apartment
Denial,
on
a
property,
Zone
piece
of
property
for
the
use
that
was
intended.
I
With
the
anticipation
that,
under
the
current
zoning
guidelines,
they
would
be
able
to
develop
this
as
a
developer
of
development
of
right.
They
had
the
privilege
to
develop
this
property.
The
issue
boil
down
to
a
denial
of
plain
and
simple
based
on
traffic.
This
project
and
you're,
going
to
hear
from
the
traffic
engineer
had
about
31
trips
at
peak
hours,
and
and
so
it
was
a
minimal
impact
here.
Small
development
didn't
make
anything
worse
because
it
was
already
bad
enough,
but
that's
the
nature
of
the
Beast.
I
It
seems
in
Ascension
Parish
already
they
submitted
their
site
plan
and
other
supporting
documentation,
probably
in
April
of
2022
prior
to
that
they
had
had
a
number
of
communications
with
the
planning
staff
over
here,
and
they
worked
cooperatively
and
diligently
together
to
try
and
iron
out
whatever
what
needed
to
be
done
to
bring
this
project
to
Bear
you'll
hear
that
this
project-
actually
it
originated
in
late
2020,
but
as
a
town
home
development,
which
generated
a
threshold
to
traffic
analysis.
I
That
threshold
to
traffic
analysis
is
what
was
used
in
your
exhibit
a
of
the
appeal
documents
to
deny
the
project.
It
was
the
August
29th
letter
from
planning
staff
saying
you're
denied,
because
the
capacity
level
of
Highway
73
is
a
level
of
service
e
is
in
Edward
and
because
we
believe
our
policy
mandates
a
level
of
service,
D
or
better
you're
denied.
Well,
what
will
show
you,
as
we
speak
later
on,
is
that
that
is
not
the
case.
I
That's
a
misapplication
of
your
zoning
ordinance
and,
quite
frankly,
it's
a
misinterpretation
based
on
past
history
of
planning
and
zoning's
use
of
their
own
ordinance
and
how
they've
been
applying
it
up
and
down
Highway
73.,
so
the
August
29th
denial
level
letter.
It's
short,
it's
sweet,
it's
direct
I
mean
they
didn't
mince
their
words.
They
said
it
directly.
Foreign.
I
It
dovetails
into
the
analysis
of
of
how
this
thing
came
down
where
once
the
applicant
and
the
the
Consulting
Engineers
walk
this
thing
right
on
into
a
right
at
August,
19th
based
on
phone
calls
and
other
information
confirmation,
emails
last
email
from
level
Joe
labe
of
level
was
around
well
I
think
it
was
August
19th,
the
basic
said:
okay,
we've
ironed
out
the
only
traffic
issue,
the
only
traffic
issue
of
substance,
that
planning
even
discussed
with
them
was
a
write-in
right
out.
I
In
other
words,
they
planning
wanted
the
access
to
this
property
off
of
Heaven's
highway
73..
So
in
the
site
plan
it
was
changed
to
be
a
write-in
right
out
from
Bell
Savannah
Avenue.
So,
apparently
the
thought
was,
if
you
turn
off
a
73
onto
Bell
Sivan.
You
turn
right
into
the
development.
If
you
want
to
leave
the
development,
you
got
to
turn
right
on
Bill
Savon
Avenue,
you
go
up,
I,
don't
know
50
yards
and
there's
a
what
he
calls
round.
I
That
you
turn
around
and
come
back
to
the
to
come
back
to
the
light,
so
that
was
done.
Ironed
out
only
comment
that
they
knew
about
of
any
substance
for
traffic,
and
that
was
something
that
got
ironed
out
over
time.
Well,
August
29th
rolls
around
the
letter
comes
in
it's
a
denial
based
on
a
Capacity
Analysis
of
the
roadway,
not
the
intersections
you're,
going
to
hear
a
lot
about
that
in
a
little
bit,
but
the
roadway
and
that's
when
the
applicant,
the
developer,
call
foul.
That's
not
right.
I
You
know
you're
you're
picking
on
us
here
with
this.
What
we
believe
is
a
change
in
policy
in
no
a
change
in
interpretation
of
a
policy.
That's
been
in
place
since
2018.,
so
so,
where
we're
at
right
now,
you
know
is
it.
You
know,
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
in
this,
but
when
you,
when
you
really
get
down
to
it,
it
gets
the
the
questions
are
fairly
simple.
Does
the
policy,
the
2018
traffic
policy
mandate,
any
property
with
a
level
E
threshold,
a
level
of
service,
designation.
I
I
I,
don't
know
how
many
e-level
roads
you
got
in
this
town.
I
mean
this
Parish
I
know
you
got
more
than
one
because
I've
been
in
a
bunch
of
situations
where
they're
in
a
sentence
had
a
traffic
problem
for
20
years
and
y'all
are
fighting
to
fix
it
right.
So,
but
but
if
you
have
other
level
E
roadways
in
this
town,
if
this
decision
sticks,
then
that
applies
everywhere
everywhere.
I
I
Why
even
go
through
the
process,
because
if,
if
this
Stakes,
they
just
simply
tell
them
level
E,
we
want
to
prove
it.
That's
what
they're
telling
us
with
this
decision?
That's
what
they're
telling
everybody
in
this
Parish.
It
may
be
something
that
the
anti-development
folks
want
to
hear,
but
it's
not
what's
intended
by
your
ordinance.
I
Who
will
want
to
have
a
brief
presentation
about
the
the
ordinance
and
how
it's
interpreted,
what
her
experience
with
it
is,
but
the
other
thing
that
we
asked
her
to
do
is
you
know
we
didn't
have
much
time
to
to
go
digging
around
in
this
thing,
but
we
did
a
very
simple
public
records
request
for
just
what's
up
and
down
a
few
of
the
projects
up
and
down
highway
73..
I
In
other
words,
they
they
use
the
level
two
analysis
that
we
had
prepared
in
connection
with
the
town
home
development,
and
we
were
fine
with
that,
because
a
new
one
is
not
going
to
show
anything
different,
they
used
it,
they
pulled
one
little
piece
out
of
it.
They
just
said:
okay,
you
know,
the
roadway
is
a.
Is
a
level
E.
So
that's
it.
It's
over.
A
Mr
Cohn
question:
for
you:
do
you
keep
bringing
up
it's
August
19th
day
when,
when
do
you
know
when
level
homes
actually
purchase
this
piece
of
problem,
I.
I
Looked
that
up,
yes,
sir
level
homes
brought
that
property
from
a
fellow
named
George
Valentine
and
his
wife
in
July
of
this
year.
I
I
The
rest
of
it
was
just
kind
of
mopping
up.
If
you
will
the
little
knickknacks
of
it
and
and
this
write-in
right
out
the
other
things
like
that,
so
I
mean
I,
think
they
I
think
you
know
nobody
likes
to
jump
into
a
swimming
pool.
They
don't
know
how
deep
it
is
so
and
I'm
not
here
to
cry
over
to
say:
well,
they
got
misled
and
they
bought
it.
I
And
but
but
the
fact
of
it
is
the
representations
that
they
were
getting
both
verbally
and
in
their
comments,
and
everything
else
gave
them
enough
of
a
feeling
that
they
would
go
risk
one.
Nearly
1.3
million
dollars
to
buy
this
piece
of
property,
and
now
it
is
worthless
because
they
are
told
you
can
build
nothing
now,
because
that
roadway
on
73
has
a
level
E
designation.
I
It
may
deserve
it,
but
that's
not
how
it's
been
applied.
That's
not
how
the
ordinance
has
been
applied
in
this
Parish
and
these
other
projects
that
have
been
approved
in
the
last
two
years.
Not
that
way
either
so
I
mean
take
Starbucks,
who
you
think's,
generating
more
traffic,
Starbucks
or
48
unit
apartment,
complex
Starbucks
will
generate
10
times
the
traffic
that
this
will
and
they'll
do
it
at
peak
hours,
particularly
in
the
morning.
So
that's
just
one,
my
my
one
little
pet
peeve,
but
Rebecca
Lala,
the
the
traffic
engineer.
I
Jolabe,
who
is
a
project
manager
with
level
was,
was
involved
with
staff
and
he's
going
to
give
you
a
short
presentation
on
the
process
that
they
went
through.
To
get
to
this
point
and
and
then
just
to
give
you
the
background
and
and
and
then
I'll
have
a
few
remarks
when
they
finish
okay
but
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
call
up
Joe
to
go
ahead
and
give
you
some
background
on
the
project
and
what
they
went
through
and
then
once
he's
done,
Rebecca
will
be
popping.
J
Good
evening,
everyone
I'll
try
and
be
quick,
concise,
just
try
and
hit
up
on
some
important
dates.
Just
to
give
you
a
little
bit
background
of
myself.
I
was
originally
a
project
manager
with
quality
engineering
and
surveying
as
the
initial
submittals
and
involvement
that
goes
back
two
years
on
this
property
in
this
project.
J
Currently
a
project
manager
for
inkless
development,
this
project
and
and
the
apartment
side
of
things
goes
back
a
year
from
now
now
the
town
homes
goes
back
even
further
into
two
years,
so
we
were
looking
at
coordination
and
meeting
with
Parish
on
the
town
home
side
of
things
back
in
November
2020
December,
there
was
a
pre-op
meeting
of
2020.
moving
into
March
of
2021.
J
That
was
the
medal
of
the
preliminary
plot
for
the
town
homes
and
then
getting
into
April
is
when
we
received
comments
and
addressed
those
comments
and
then
moving
into
the
summer
into
May
and
June.
J
J
What's
currently
is,
is
the
property
zoned,
for
what
does
it
allow
for
Max
units
of
48
units
could
be
done
as
an
apartment
complex
still
wanting
to
provide
the
quality
of
the
architecture
of
the
landscape
of
the
surrounding
areas,
but
at
that
point
in
time
about
a
year
ago,
in
December,
we
Revisited
the
idea
with
staff
met
with
staff
to
get
their
feedback
before
going
any
further.
It
was
important
to
us
that
we
wouldn't
take
any
any
additional
steps
unless
we
felt
the
warm
and
fuzzy
if
you
want
to
call
it
from
them.
J
At
that
point,
in
time
we
met
with
them.
The
start
of
the
year
in
January
got
really
good
feedback.
You
know
we
already
had
a
traffic
study
on
the
property.
We
had
a
drainage
impact
study,
some
revisions
here
and
there
may
need
to
be
made,
but
we
showed
our
initial
site
plan
got
the
feedback.
Never
at
any
point
was
there
any
concern.
J
We
knew
at
that
point
in
time
that
it
would
be
a
staff
level
review
with
the
fact
that
it
was
owned
properly
so
moving
along
in
the
timeline
through
our
process,
you
know
February
into
April.
You
know
getting
all
of
our
paperwork
together:
April's
middle
still
getting
good
feedback
and
good
coordination
with
staff
as
we
moved
into
the
summer.
J
You
know
we
wanted
to
see
some
review
comments.
We
wanted
to
get
more
feedback
and
we
did
get
that
and
as
Mr
David
mentioned,
really
the
the
only
hang
up
traffic,
wise
and
feedback
that
we
got
When,
Miss,
Lala
and
Mr
Stephen
arker
met
with
staff
was
the
concerns
for
a
write-in
right
out,
like
that
was
mentioned
at
that
point
in
time.
No
other
issues,
no
other
concerns
were
brought
up.
So
never
was
there
any
anything
that
was
brought
to
our
attention.
J
J
J
Sir
okay,
so
you
know
typically.
J
Bottom
24:
on
top
you
see
the
setup
and
I'll
provide.
J
You'll
see
that
the
apart
the
apartments
are
set
up
as
a
similar
look
is
a
town
home
development.
It's
not
your
typical
three-story.
You
know
apartment
complex
again
that
kind
of
goes
along
with
what
I
was
saying.
As
far
as
you
know,
the
look,
the
quality
of
the
development
we
want.
We
wanted
it
to
have
that
feel
so
that
was
important
so
again,
kind
of
reiterating
what
Mr
David
said.
You
know
August
rolls
around
and
we
were
kind
of
itching
to
get
some
feedback.
J
Some
approval,
and
that's
all
that
came
up
was
the
Right
End
right
out
at
that
point
in
time
that
meeting
took
place
early,
August
I
think
I'd
send
an
email
kind
of
mid-august
that
communication
around
the
19th
things
got
real
quiet
for
about
10
days.
Didn't
really
hear
anything,
didn't
know
why
and
then,
of
course,
the
letter
came
through
and
it
kind
of
Blindsided
us
a
bit.
So
that's
that's
kind
of
the
general
outline
of
where
things
went
throughout
the
last
two
years.
A
E
E
22.,
okay
I
got
you
and
then
for
your.
Your
traffic
plan
that
you
had
I
was
just
curious.
I'm
looking
at
it
was
the
traffic
impact
study
that
was
stamped
on
March
4th
2021.
Just
from
my
knowledge,
I'm,
not
an
expert
in
this
stuff,
and
so
when
I
was
looking
at
your
figure
four
because
it
was
referenced
in
the
plan
a
few
times.
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
it
in
front
of
you.
A
E
K
As
I
said,
if
I'm
Rebecca
Lala
a
traffic
engineer
for
Quality
engineering
surveying
I
just
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
traffic
that
was
done
for
this
development,
can
you
pull
your
mic
down
the
denial
letter.
K
The
denial
letter
of
August
29th
references
to
concerns
that
were
stated
on
an
August
1st
comment,
letter
from
the
parish
to
Quality
engineering.
The
first
comment
was
that
the
threshold
one
analysis
should
be
amended
to
state
that
a
threshold
2
study
can
be
required
if
the
department
of
Planning
and
Development
deems
it
necessary
per
Tia
policy.
K
K
The
second
comment
was
addressed
by
a
conference
call
meeting
held
on
August
1st,
between
planning,
department,
personnel
and
qes
personnel
on
the
phone
call.
The
discussion
revolved
around
modifying
the
entrance
to
a
write-in
Rideout
only
in
order
to
address
traffic
concerns.
It
was
also
acknowledged
that
a
threshold
2
study
had
already
been
submitted
previously
and
if
it
were
to
be
redone,
the
results
would
be
the
same.
It
was
stated
that
the
parish
would
discuss
internally
and
let
us
know
if
anything
further
was
needed
for
traffic.
K
Despite
this
meeting
that
was
requested
by
the
parish
being
held
to
address
all
traffic
requirements,
the
August
29th
denial
was
based
on
the
roadway
level
service
e
on
la-73,
which
was
not
brought
up
in
the
August
1st
meeting.
As
an
issue
roadway
level
service
is
not
listed
in
the
Tia
policy
as
being
required
as
part
of
a
study.
Roadway
capacity
is
only
discussed
in
the
transportation
impact
fee.
Ordinance.
K
The
ordinance
states
that
the
transportation
impact
fees
were
meant
to
charge
a
new
development,
the
cost
of
replacing
the
capacity
that
it
consumes
on
the
major
roadway
system.
The
TAA
policy
states
that
the
level
of
service
that
all
study
intersections
inclusive
of
the
site
access
locations
shall
be
calculated.
K
K
The
analysis
shows
that
the
roadway
level
of
service,
as
well
as
the
average
speed
along
La
73,
will
remain
the
same
both
with
and
without
the
development.
The
roadway
level
service
e
on
la73
is
an
existing
condition
and
has
existed
for
at
least
five
years,
based
on
other
traffic
studies
in
the
area.
K
The
existing
level
of
service
for
both
intersections
and
the
roadway
Remains,
the
Same,
with
the
addition
of
bell
Savannah
Apartments.
The
project
will
not
overburden
the
existing
roadway
system,
as
the
addition
of
the
traffic
from
the
development
will
result
in
an
increase
of
less
than
two
seconds
of
delay
for
all
approaches
to
all
intersections.
In
the
study
area,
and
in
most
cases
the
increase
is
only
fractions
of
a
second
per
the
Tia
policy.
The
study
showed
results
of
possible
improvements
that
could
increase
the
level
of
service
for
both
intersections
and
the
roadway.
K
There
are
other
developments
in
the
area
that
create
less
than
40
trips
during
the
peak
hour
that
have
not
been
required
to
perform
threshold
2
studies
only
threshold,
one.
Some
of
those
developments
have
been
in
a
similar
situation
as
us
where
a
prior
threshold
2
study
had
been
performed
for
the
same
property
into
the
threshold.
2
showed
level
service
below
D4,
intersections
and
or
the
roadway.
However,
no
building
permits
were
withheld
and
no
roadway
improvements
were
required
for
those
other
developments.
K
K
K
K
Claire
Court
there
was
a
threshold
one
required,
because
to
quote
this
clear
Court
project
was
approved
to
only
provide
a
threshold
one
due
to
the
low
trips
and
because
the
threshold
2
study
was
already
done
in
December
2018
for
the
proposed
Evelyn
Estates
project
on
the
same
property
results
from
this
prior
threshold.
2
study
were
presented
in
the
preliminary
plot
review
summary
and
showed
a
purchase
at
intersections
under
existing
conditions
with
level
service,
E
and
F
per
Tia
policy.
The
report
showed
results
from
possible
improvements
that
could
increase
the
level
of
service.
K
However,
no
improvements
were
required
to
be
implemented
and
the
project
was
approved.
Starbucks
a
threshold
one
study
was
required
in
2020,
because
total
trips
were
allowed
to
be
reduced
by
pass
by
trips.
Pass
by
trips
means
it's
vehicles
that
are
already
on
the
roadway
that
are
going
to
turn
off
to
get
their
coffee
and
then
turn
back
out
so
they're
already
on
the
roadway
but
they're
going
to
use
the
services
of
this
new
development.
K
If
the
pass
by
trips
were
not
subtracted,
the
development
creates
195
and
98
trips
during
the
AM
and
PM
peak
hours
respectively,
the
School
the
new
school
on
Highway
73,
there
was
a
threshold
to
study,
was
performed
in
September
of
2018,
and
it
showed
an
overall
level
of
service
f
for
intersections,
as
well
as
a
drop
of
overall
intersection
level
service
from
C
to
e.
Upon
build
out
a
roadway
level.
Service
analysis
was
not
required
in
the
report
and
no
improvements
were
recommended
or
implemented
aside
from
turn
liens
at
the
driveway
Delona
states.
E
E
E
E
K
E
K
These
are
the
existing
these,
so
there's
traffic
counts
that
we
did
we
performed
out
in
the
field.
These
are
existing
traffic
counts
out
there.
Now,
if
you
go
to
figure
five,
the
next
one,
we
actually
grew
the
volumes
by
an
additional
five
percent
just
to
get
some
background
growth
in
there
and
make
sure
that
make
sure
we're
accounting
for
everything.
K
The
next
figure.
Six
in
this
study
actually
included
Longleaf
Town
Homes,
which
has
not
been
approved.
So
these
numbers
are
not
going
to
be
there,
but
this
study
did
take
into
account
the
background
trips
from
Longleaf
Town
Homes,
as
well
as
phase
three
of
belsavon,
the
remaining
lots
that
have
not
been
occupied
yet
so
when
you.
Finally,
if
you
turn
to.
K
D
K
Is
the
one
I
was
looking
for
figure?
Nine
has
the
new
site
trips.
These
are
the
trips
that
are
to
be
generated
by
the
development,
and
these
are
calculated
using
the
ite
trip
generation
manual,
which
is
how
we
project
the
traffic
for
new
developments.
It's
used
internationally
for
traffic
studies,
so
this
new
site
trip
shows
you
how
many
trips
this
development
is
going
to
create
and
which
way
they're
going
to
go
on
the
roadway
system.
E
K
Up
for
well
it's
for
a
peak
hour,
so
the
trip
generation
manual
only
you
calculate
for
the
peak
hour
of
the
day,
so
yeah
you're
going
to
have
more
than
48
trips,
because
you
have
more
than
48
units
but
they're,
not
all
going
to
be
using
the
roadway.
At
the
same
exact
hour
of
the
day.
E
Another
question
I
had
is
that,
and
so
the
first
figure
that
you
showed
me:
that's
the
trip,
that's
for
the
Vel
savants
subdivision,
because
what
I
was
curious
is
how
would
this
trip
equal
into
the
subdivision
itself,
because,
obviously,
the
study
that
you
have
is
focusing
on
this
road.
So
is
that
where
that
first
figure
was
yes.
E
K
K
Classification,
so
in
this
study,
this
study
for
figure
10
the
build
peak
hour
volumes
that
takes
into
account
all
of
everything
that
I
said.
So
that's
the
five
percent
increase
over
existing
volumes,
plus
the
belfon
phase,
three
homes
that
have
not
been
built
yet
and
the
long
Longleaf
Town
Homes,
which
doesn't
matter
anyway,
because
they're
not
approved,
but
this
the
build
peak
hour
volumes
takes
into
account
all
of
those
together.
So
that's
what
the
analysis
is.
The
build
analysis
is
based
on
these
volumes.
E
E
Okay,
I'm,
sorry,
no
no
I
can
wait.
I
can
wait.
I'm
gonna
jump
to
another
document.
Now.
Did
you
do
this
traffic
impact
study
that
was
I
didn't
understand
why
this
document
was
in
here.
So
that
was
really
just
more
question:
The
Office
Park,
73
traffic
impact
study,
okay,.
K
So
significance
of
that
I
did
not
include
it.
Do
those
those
exhibits
are
in
there
for
the
other
developments
that
I
mentioned,
that
have
done
traffic
studies
in
the
area
and
did
not
have
to
meet
the
same
requirements
that
this
did.
I
did
not
do
that
study.
No,
no.
E
No,
that
makes
perfect
sense,
and
so
that
was
a
question
just
from
a
related
standpoint
and
so
flipping
through
this
one.
You
get
to
figure
six
through
ten
and
I
guess:
I,
don't
know
so
I'm
a
health
and
safety
professional
about
trade
for
the
record,
whatever
it
may
be,
and
so
figures
six
through
ten,
then
I'll
start
looking
at
just
the
crash.
E
E
C
E
G
K
So
that
is
done
with
the
data
collection
that
was
created.
We
have
to
analyze
that
and
get
approval
from
dotd
on
the
peak
hour.
Determination
for
this
report
I
want
to
say
it
was
the
am
peak
hours
between
seven
and
eight
A.M
and.
K
Pm
peak
hour
was
between
4
15
and
5
15.
and
sorry
amp
hour
was
6
30
to
7
30..
So
it's
based
on
the
data
collection
that
was
collected.
G
I
do
want
to
say
that
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
place
a
little
blame
on
I
hate.
To
do
this
part,
but
73
was
developed
in
2002
I.
Think
the
dotd,
the
current.
What
we
have-
and
it
was
underdeveloped
in
I-
do
understand
that
the
roadways
are
developed
now
and
under
developed
and
I.
Think
of
north
of
the
interstate
and
south
of
the
interstate
is
two
different
roads
anyway,
because
I
feel,
like
most
people,
are
using
the
interstate
as
the
point
to
go
to
so.
G
G
Of
I-10
as
well
I
respect
them
for
what
they're,
what
they're
here
for
they
hear
for
reference
and
all
I
just
want
to
kind
of
state
that,
because
73
is
a
dotd,
Highway
and
problem,
it's
well
I'm
getting
that.
So
the
other
questions
are
going
to
go.
I'm
actually
going
to
bring
these
gentlemen
in
but
I'm
going
to
let
y'all
finish
those
presentations
and
go
to
public
comments
and
all
first
I
just
wanted
to
find
that
peak
hour.
Okay,
thank
you.
G
I
In
summary,
if
you
look
at
the
definitions
of
the
traffic
policy,
that
traffic
policy
has
definitions
that
discuss
what
a
level
of
service
D
is
going
to
be
on
Capacity
Analysis,
that's
defined
and
we're
talking
about
capacity
here
when
they're
talking
about
a
level
of
service
e
on
this
roadway,
we're
talking
about
a
capacity
level,
E,
okay,
well,
the
the
level
of
service
capacity
described
in
the
2018
ordinance,
as
defined
only
talks
about
intersections
talks
about
intersections
traffic.
Directional
study
talks
about
intersections
other
definitions.
Talk
about
intersections.
They
don't
talk
about
roadways.
I
Now,
if
there's
a
if
the
ordinance
is
vague,
I
mean
if,
if
it's
subject
to
being
interpreted
this
severely,
then
this
is
that's
one
of
the
few
times
that
actually
operates
in
favor
of
the
public,
because
the
public
who
owns
the
land
properly
zoned
has
a
development
of
right.
If
that
development
conforms
to
existing
regulations
and
when
a
parish
imposes
those
regulations
unreasonably
on
that
owner,
then
his
development
of
right
has
been
taken
away.
It's
a
constitutional
right;
they
have
a
remedy
for
that.
I
I
I
I
see
it
as
a
one-off
misinterpretation
of
the
statute,
because
the
little
the
projects
that
we
developed
and
to
Mr
Graham's
point
I
mean
he
sees
everything
on
the
other
side
of
the
interstate.
You
know
it's
probably
less,
of
an
example,
but
we
really
didn't
show
y'all
that
to
say
look
the
their
their
impact
is
worse
than
ours.
I
What
is
it
what's
that
one
out
there
I
mean
out
there
by
Keystone.
What's
that
Highway
that
thing's
a
mess
too
or
used
to
be,
but
but
all
these
roadways
that
have
these
problems,
you've
got
other
level
E's
out
there.
It's
a
misinterpretation.
That's
not
what
that's
not
what
the
ordinance
means,
but
to
be
clear
again
to
Mr
Graham's
point.
We
showed
you
this
to
say:
they've
applied
the
Ordinance
one
way
with
level
E
service
of
a
roadway
without
even
discussing
it
so
now
level,
and
this
homo
this.
I
So
we
think
it's
a
a
discriminatory
application,
I'm,
not
saying
that
they're
being
mean
or
ugly
right
now,
I'm
just
saying
I,
don't
know
what
happened
between
the
20,
the
19th
of
August
to
the
29th,
but
something
turned
I,
don't
know
what
it
is
but
but
but
it
went
it
went,
it
went
way
off
the
rails
and
you
know
and
I
don't
know
that
the
answer
to
that
question
is
really
pertinent
here.
I
It
may
be
pertinent
later,
but
not
here.
What's
pertinent,
here
is:
what
does
the
statute
mean?
What
does
the
ordinance
mean?
Has
it
been
interpreted
in
the
past
constitutional
law
says
that
ordinance
has
to
be
applied
uniformly
and
fairly.
You
can't
just
go
pick
the
ones
you
like
and
the
ones
you
don't
like.
I've
had
this
debate
before
the
council
before
the
Planning
Commission
in
court
down
here
in
Ascension
for
the
last
30
years,
I
mean
it's
like
saying:
okay,
you
know
we're
going
to
apply
a
different
set
of
rules
in
Donaldsonville.
I
Then
we're
going
to
apply
here.
Well,
no,
you
can't
do
that.
You
don't
do
that.
Everybody
lives
by
the
same
thing.
So,
where
we
stand,
we
believe
the
ordinance
is
clear
enough.
It's
defining
capacity.
It
points
in
the
level
two
analysis
to
intersectional
analysis.
All
of
our
intersections
are
Level
D
or
better.
Overall,
we
met
code.
I
A
You
for
your
time
and
we're
going
to
give
you
a
rebuttal
after
public
comment
and
all,
but
it
is
before
see
if
any
members
have
any
questions
for
you
right
now.
Yeah.
E
These
include,
but
are
not
limited
to
the
following
High
accident
areas.
Areas
currently
experience
in
excessive
track
of
traffic
congestion
areas
currently
under
undergoing
substantial
growth
and
high
volumes.
There's
a
few
other
ones.
But
those
are
like
the
four
that
I
kind
of
highlighted,
because
I
thought
that
one
really
pertains
to
here
so
Mr
David
this
was
it
was
yeah
Mr
David.
This
was
more
for
you
guys
it's.
How
is
that
specific
section
within
the
policy?
How
is
that
factored
into
the
decision
by
the
parish.
I
Are
you
referring
to
the
bottom
of
page
three?
Yes,
yes,.
E
Okay,
yep
I'm,
sorry
yeah,
page
three
right
traffic
impact
analysis
is
right
there
at
the
bottom.
I
was
just
curious.
That
was
I,
guess.
M
Mr
Bennett
yeah
I'll
start
off
by
addressing
that
and
that
the
the
traffic
study
policy
does
give
staff
some
latitude
in
terms
of
requesting
more
information
and
a
higher
degree
of
analysis.
You
know
in
particular
projects
right,
so
that
was
considered.
I
And
and
he's
he's
right
about
that
and
and
and
and
and
if
you
in
the
first
sentence
of
where
you
just
read
from
kind
of
answers-
the
question
the
peak
hour
trips
are
not
the
only
threshold
factor
in
deciding
the
analysis
that
would
be
required.
Well,
that's
how
we
got
pushed
that's.
How
code
or
the
the
the
traffic
policy
says.
Look
all
you
got
to
have
is
a
level
one
for
under
40
we
got
31
peak
hour
trips
level,
one
does
a
trick.
I
We
want
a
level
two
because
that's
a
higher
standard,
but
because
we
already
had
it
and
everybody
and
I
think
staff
would
agree
with
with
Joe
labe
that
they
accepted
that
as
as
having
it
and-
and
these
guys
are
experienced
enough
to
know
if
we
go
get
a
brand
new
one,
it's
not
going
to
say
much
different.
In
fact,
it's
probably
going
to
be
less
trips,
because
you
take
out
the
project
that
got
canceled
across
the
street.
I
Okay
and
it's
so
so
I
can't
remember
long
Farms
or
something
like
that,
but
but
but
but
they
do
they.
They
staff
has
the
ability
to
ask
for
more
information
and
when
they
asked
it's
provided
and
as
they
asked
in
this
project,
they
were
provided
whatever
they
asked
for
and
the
end
result
was
when
it
was
all
over
the
only
substantive
change
of
any
significance.
I
Other
than
paper
changes
in
the
report
that
they
were
asking
for
that
were
already
covered
in
the
level
two
was
to
do
a
write-in
right
out
on
that
driveway
and
that's
what
we
did
and
and
and
you
know
and
there's
there's
all
this
other
stuff
about.
You
know
you
have
to
have
a
scoping
meeting
and
and
that's
when
it's
articulated
what
the
factors
are
going
to
be.
You
know
there
has
to
be.
I
You
know
those
are
sort
of
hard
in
line,
but
this
thing
kind
of
just
evolved
over
time
and
before
it
finally
gelled
up
and
then
and
then
that's
where
it
went.
But
I
will
tell
you
this
in
none
of
the
meetings
was
it
ever
said,
because
you
have
a
level
E
roadway
on
highway
73..
This
project
is
dead
meat
that
never
came
up.
Okay,.
C
A
All
right,
so
what
do
I
do?
I
go
stab
Max,
a
public
comment:
yeah
public,
okay!
Well,
now
we'll
open
it
up
for
public
comment.
Miss
Jamaica.
L
Thank
you
good
evening.
L
You
know
that
part
of
73
everything
that
they
showed
you
was
on
the
other
side.
It
is
a
nightmare
day
and
night.
So
I
don't
know
what
time
they
did
their
study,
but
I
can
tell
you
with
an
extra
100
homes
in
phase
three
coming
with
another
100
200
300
more
cars
going
in
and
out
of
el
Savannah
With
No
Light
No
safety,
everybody
turns
left,
you
have
to
turn
into
that
Middle
Lane
or
try
to
make
it
all.
L
The
way
across
I
mean
it's
a
death
trap
and
so
trying
to
put
something
else
there
when
it
rained
really
bad.
Last
year
we
had
three
feet
of
water
in
that
roundabout,
but
there
were
cars
floating
in
the
front
of
it.
I
talked
to
Jerome
about
infrastructure
flooding,
it's
a
grass
area
right
now
they
had
already
started
tearing
up
that
land
in
July
before
they
ever
got
a
permit.
You
know
they
were
so
sure
they
were
going
to
get
it
through.
They
had
to
stop
because
they
got
denied
left
all
that
stuff.
L
H
N
N
N
N
C
Name
is
Chris
markerson
I
me
and
my
wife
purchased
our
home.
We
signed
a
contract
in
January
of
2020..
None
of
this
was
mentioned
to
us
about
town
homes
or
an
apartment
complex.
We
would
have
looked
elsewhere
first
and
foremost,
but
that's
beside
the
point.
A
couple
things
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
they
kind
of
mentioned
here.
We
have
198
existing
homes
by
my
understanding
in
phase
one
and
two
100
homes
are
going
to
be
added
in
phase
three
is
what
I'm
being
told
I,
don't
know
how
five
percent
extra
traffic?
C
C
The
second
thing
that
I
kind
of
picked
out
from
their
presentation
here
was
peak
hours,
especially
in
the
afternoon
4
15
to
5
15..
It's
not
really
peak
hours
based
off
of
what
I've
experienced
living
in
that
for
the
last
two
years,
I
mean
just
on
the
way
over
here
for
this
meeting
at
5,
30
traffic
was
backed
up
from
73
almost
to
Corner
view.
1.7
miles
is
what
I
tagged
it
on
the
odometer
on
the
way
over
here
today,
Bumper
to
Bumper.
C
Now,
if
you
try
to
get
out
of
belsavan,
which
just
about
everybody
does
going
left
to
the
interstate
you
have
to
dodge
traffic,
because
it's
coming
from
both
ways
in
the
morning
plants
plant
workers
trying
to
get
there,
so
you
have
to
shoot
across
get
in
the
Middle,
Lane
and
hope
you
don't
get
hit,
and
especially
if
schools,
letting
in
and
out
that's
just
a
whole
nother.
You
know
addition
to
that.
C
So
I
was
just
kind
of
curious
as
to
how
you
know
they
came
up
with
some
of
these
numbers
when
it
seems
like
the
math.
Just
like
you
said,
doesn't
add
up
when
we're
talking
about
the
traffic
study
that
was
done.
It
was
done
in
what
I
think
they
said.
March
of
21
and
from
my
understanding,
I
didn't
even
see
the
last
house
in
phase
two
completed
by
then.
So
how
do
we
know
that
that
data
is
accurate?
C
You
know,
especially
if
we're
adding
in
100
more
homes
and
then
48
on
top
of
that
and
I
say
even
the
next
thing,
the
left-hand
turn
or
the
right
end
right
out.
That's
not
going
to
happen
all
that
traffic
is
going
to
either
try
and
cut
that
curb
which
will
have
to
be
replaced,
or
if
they
do
go,
that
to
that
roundabout
at
the
right
there's
tons
of
kids
there
are
community
pool
is
right
there.
C
You
know,
there's
kids
crossing
that
section
intersection
all
the
time
and
if
we
add
even
another
development
to
dump
into
our
existing
development,
that's
already
got
approved
houses
that
have
yet
to
be
built.
I
worry
for
the
safety
of
the
neighborhood
and
the
property
values
that
we're
going
to
have
because
traffic's
just
going
to
be
even
worse
than
it
already
is
today.
So
I
appreciate
your
time.
Thank
you.
H
A
Thank
you,
Mr
America,
okay,
we'll
close
the
public
comment.
Mr
Cohen
hold
on
I
think
we're
gonna
have
some
conversations
with
them
for
a
little
while
here
from
their
side,
Mr
Jerome,
I'm,
sure
you
you
or
Mr
Eric
or
someone
have
some
input.
G
All
right,
I'm,
just
here
to
put
stuff
on
the
record
I
read
this
booklet,
it's
pretty
good!
If
y'all,
don't
just
let
the
public
know
it's
pretty
thick
over
here,
we've
I
see
highlights
all
of
it
down.
So
we
actually
read
this
we're
not
just
goofing
off
up
here.
So
we'll
start
with
a
lot
of
the
parish.
Why
did
y'all
deny
it
well,
besides
traffic,
do
you
have
a
specific
reason
for
traffic?
Is
it
just
numbers
crashes,
but
the
overall.
G
G
M
The
entrants
were
actually
on
to
73
instead
of
through
belsavain
Boulevard.
Yes,
sir,
would
you
change
your
opinion?
It
would
still
generate
the
same
amount
of
traffic
regardless.
The
configuration
of
The
Interchange,
though,
and
having
a
driveway
under
73,
would
obviously
change
the
configuration
of
the
development.
G
And
I
think
would
be
more
dangerous
for
anybody.
Turning
on
the
delsa
van
having
that
closeness,
because
that's
the
problem,
we
see
all
over
the
parish.
Oh
we
if
we
were
to
move
forward
so,
first
of
all
we're
acting
as
a
pills
board
to
the
administration
right
now.
Would
that
be
the
best
way
to
define
their.
M
That's
correction
tonight,
yes,
just
just
for
the
record
that
any
any
plan
that
goes
before
the
Planning
Commission,
that
requires
a
public
hearing
and
they're
denied
they're
appeal
to
the
parish
appeals
board,
which
is
the
parish
council,
acting
as
the
appeals
board
on
administrative
levels
like
this
is.
The
appeal
is
brought
to
the
board
of
adjustments
and
that's
why
we're
here
tonight?
Yes,
sir.
G
M
Yes,
subdivisions
typically
go
to
the
Planning
Commission
developments
like
we're,
seeing
now
and-
and
you
know-
would
go
to
to
the
administration.
You
know
by
use
by
right,
as
Mr
Cohn
had
mentioned
earlier,
right.
G
M
G
The
73
part
was
probably
my
biggest
question,
also
question
the
write
and
write
out:
I
don't
live
in
the
subdivision,
but
I
do
remember
when
it
was
being
developed.
I
remember
the
whole
dividing
it
all
the
way
down
the
traffic
circles
and
the
idea
that
one
day
it
might
touch
Bluff
Road
which
isn't
coming
to
par.
But
why
are
we
doing
the
Right
End
right
out?
Why
would
we
want
more
cause
to
go
to
the
traffic
circle?
To
turn
around
to
go
back
to
73?
Is
the
road
divided
right
there
in
front
of
development.
M
G
I'm
saying
so,
why
not
and
forgive
me,
but
why
not
let
them
cross
that
median
I
do
agree
with
not
driving
them
to
the
traffic
circle.
I
love
traffic
circles,
because
I
do
understand
why
we
would
do
that,
but
having
the
amenity
of
the
swimming
pool
there
and
the
cluster
of
summer
use
of
that
area.
Additional
numbers
of
kids,
I,
say:
students
with
kids
being
in
the
area.
G
I'm
just
trying
to
do
stuff
for
the
record,
so
oh,
the
only
other
thing
I
guess
I
would
have
is
if
we
were
to
move
forward
with
this
tonight.
Are
they
limited
to
exactly?
What's
on
this
plan
consulted
to
be
altered,
including
that
design
where
it's
a
I
always
call
that
a
story
and
a
half
I
wouldn't
call
it
a
two
Stone,
it's
just
a
two
they're,
basically
individual
Town
Homes,
but
identified
as
something
else.
No.
M
I,
generally
speaking,
they're
appealing
the
the
project
that
was
put
before
us.
Okay,
so
I
could
add
Mass
Mr
long
for
legal
opinion
as
to
any
modifications
that
can
be
made.
But
my
understanding
is
that
they're
appealing
the
actual
project
that
was
put
before
us
and.
G
So,
in
other
words,
they
couldn't
basically
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
alter
ad
or
anything
like
that.
Okay,
I,
like
that
oh
traffic,
counts,
I,
think
already
talked
about
73.
In
my
opinion,
I
went
to
Dutchtown
High
School
when
it
was
opened.
I
got
a
wreck
on
73,
because
Burger
King's
delicious
that
day
this
this
idea
is,
is
unfortunate.
I,
remember,
Longleaf,
Townhomes
I
was
an
additional
100
homes.
I
know
Bell
civilians
building
in
other
homes,
100
homes
in
the
back.
G
G
Of
course,
you
can't
answer
that,
because
it's
a
hypothetical
but
I'm
just
saying
I
do
feel
like
it's.
Taking
this
property
out
of
value.
I
won't
call
it
worthless,
though
Mr
Khan
I,
don't
believe
any
property
is
worthless,
but
but
I
do
respect
the
value
of
the
property.
The
fact
that
the
person
picked
the
property
of
the
Zone
correctly
forward
and
they
moved
forward
to
pull
the
trigger
on
buying
it.
G
So
the
only
other
thing
I
had
would
go
back
to
the
gentleman
across
the
room
and
it's
that
front
I,
don't
know
who
wants
to
answer
this,
but
the
front
part
where
Mr
Valentine's
driveway
in
the
house
and
all
used
to
be
at
what
will
it
be
or
y'all
will
sell
it
or
y'all
creating
an
extra
lot?
What
the
property
is
touching
the
corner
or
touching
73
and
Belzer
van?
Would
that
become
something
else?
Would
that
just
be
considered
green
space.
E
B
My
vote
I've
heard
everything
tonight.
I've
heard
the
public
speak
I'm
sensitive
to
the
public
I'm,
a
real
estate
broker
here
in
the
community
I've
sold
homes
in
Bell,
so
fun.
My
heart
is,
is
being
consistent,
consistency
and
being
fair
and
based
off
of
what
I've
read
and
what's
been
said,
along
Highway
73.
B
The
consistency
for
the
other
developments
compared
to
this
one
is
not
the
same,
and
it's
not
fair
So
when
you
say
how
you
conduct
business
and
move
forward,
always
believe
in
treating
people
fair
and
even
with
the
the
development.
So
belsavon
is
a
new
development,
so
that's
new
people
coming
into
the
community.
So
we
basically
saying
that
we
deny
this
development.
We're
basically
saying
that
people
that
want
to
come
to
our
community
y'all
can't
come
to
me.
I,
don't
think
that's
fair
I'm,
not
from
here!
B
So
it's
basically
saying
if
I
wanted
to
move
here.
Moving
to
this
development,
I
couldn't
come
because
it's
being
denied
so
like
I,
say
I'm
a
stick
on
being
consistent
and
being
fair
and
what
the
the
paperwork
shows
that
the
consistency
along
73
is
to
stay
consistent
would
be
too
approve.
This
development,
if
we
stay
consistent,
I
mean
with
that
being
said,
I
like
this
thing
from
my
vote.
Okay,.
G
This
is
just
for
the
record
stuff:
oh
I
didn't
see
a
design
of
the
Interior
units,
gentlemen,
Mr
lavity,
or
the
lab
back.
G
J
G
Units,
okay,
that's
well
and
I
guess.
The
reason
I
asked
that
is
I
was
trying
to
figure
out
how
many
cars
I,
in
my
opinion,
outside
of
a
study
that
I've
seen
because
I
work
in
a
real
estate
business
as
well
and
I
want
to
see
what
kind
of
cars
I
would
see
going
there.
G
If
you
we're
not
talking
like
three
cars
per
unit
that
wouldn't
be
imaginable,
I,
don't
think
because
there's
people
in
the
neighboring
subdivision
would
say
that
even
their
kids,
who
got
three
cars
per
one
unit,
so
but
in
this,
these
homes
are
probably
square
footage
wise.
You
think
1100
square
feet
or.
G
E
G
Yeah
so,
although
I
said
12.50
I'm,
sorry,
that's
awesome,
oh
I
got
so
much
stuff,
highlighted
I,
guess,
I
kind
of
lost
control
of
what
I
was
looking
at,
but
I,
don't
think
you
can
build
anything
on
73
to
improve
73.
That's
my
opinion
until
dotd
coughs
up
some
some
money
and
gets
a
actual
project
developed
for
73.
G
G
That's
the
thing
that
I
think
the
I
I
feel
like
I'm
dressing,
the
public
in
the
back
and
I
apologize
for
doing
that.
But
that's
the
thing
that
really
should
be
considered.
It's
it's
unfortunate
that
it's
Zone
that
way.
I
think
that
would
have
been
much
better
if
it
was
zoned
RM.
But
that's
not
the
place.
That's
not
what's
happening
right
now.
That's
all
these
people
bought
the
property.
As
so,
my
thoughts
are
always
we've
had
these
conversations
on
other
subject
matters.
G
This
was
probably
one
of
the
better
things
that
is
allowed
to
go
there,
in
my
opinion,
so,
and
the
other
thing
I
will
say
is
that
we
don't
ever
look
at
one
example
that
we've
done
somewhere
else
and
apply
to
this
when
I,
when
we
deal
with
the
difficult
ones,
I,
don't
go,
pull
something
out
of
Burnside
and
bring
it
to
Prairieville
and
vice
versa.
We
have
to
look
at
as
an
individual
case
every
time,
I'm
not
ready
to
make
a
motion,
because
I.
A
Feel
like
it's
a
you
were
saying
that
about
the
traffic
making
traffic
bet
on
73.
There
is
some
progress
that
the
parish
is
trying
to
make
to
lessen
the
traffic
one
of
them's
being
the
high
school
in
Prairieville,
which
would
take
a
whole
lot
of
students
from
Dutchtown
200
from
Dutchtown
and
send
them
the
other
way
up.
73,
but.
C
A
G
A
It
needs
to
be
brought
to
the
Public's
attention,
like
you
say,
on
the
record
that
the
parishes
is
working
to
try
and
move
traffic
down
there.
G
G
An
efforts,
and
forgive
me
I-
will
go
ahead
and
you
know
bells
of
Savannah
if
actually.
C
G
Have
somebody
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
was
originally
pitched
to
the
Paris
of
Ascension
as
a
connection
to
Bluff
Road
and
if
you
want
to
talk
about
car
counts?
Imagine
if
that
actually
occurred.
I
don't
know
who
stopped
or
prevented
that
measure
from
occurring,
but
you
would
have
a
hell
of
a
lot
more
cars
cutting
through
your
subdivision
and
more
and
more
dangerous.
In
my
opinion
and
I,
don't
like
sub
Adventures.
They
don't
have
two
points
of
connection,
but
anyway
I
don't
want
to
argue
with
people.
G
F
I
You,
first
of
all
just
to
reinforce
what
Rebecca
said.
The
dotd
gives
the
peak
times
that
she
has
to
follow.
She
didn't
make
these
up
I,
hear
it
all
the
time.
Sometimes
I
question
it
myself,
I,
don't
know
where
the
D.O.T
gets
them,
but
they
get
they
give
them
to
us
Lance
and
his
crew.
They
just
have
to.
They
have
to
follow
the
same
rules
that
the
the
traffic
report
folks
follow
and
they
live.
They
have
to
live
with
it
too.
I
These
guys
did
clear
some
land
out
there.
They
got
permission
from
the
parish
to
go.
Do
it,
while
they
were
in
the
permitting
process,
only
to
land
clear,
not
to
construct
anything
like
that.
My
folks
just
got
a
little
antsy
and
they
they
wanted
to
go.
Do
it
and
the
pair
said
okay,
but
no
more.
That's
it
you're
not
doing
any
more.
I
The
there
was
a
discussion
about
the
the
homes
coming
on
phase
three,
whatever
Rebecca
told
y'all
that
her
peak
time,
31
cars
includes
everything
out
there
now
so
it's
fully
occupied,
and
on
top
of
that
it
include
the
Longleaf
development
that
was
turned
down
and
I.
Think.
That's
pretty
much
all
I
have
right
now
on
in
response
to
what
I
heard.
Thank
you.
G
M
E
Foreign
I'll
go
ahead
and
start
I'm
a
I'm,
a
lifelong
resident
of
this
Parish
I
believe
in
growth.
I
do
truly
believe
in
smart
growth.
I've
made
a
lot
of
notes
as
we're
sitting
here.
I
think
that
there
is
a
level
of
accountability
when
it
comes
down
to
the
growth,
and
it's
not
on
you
guys.
It's
not
on
us,
gentlemen,
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
responsibility
that
is
on
your
shoulders
and
that's
why
you
do
the
jobs
that
you
do.
There's
responsibility
on
the
state,
there's
also
responsibility
on
dotd
I.
E
E
So
I
think
we
have
to
continue
to
be
smart
with
what
we're
doing
in
this
Parish
I
volunteered
to
be
a
part
of
this
board
about
seven
years
ago,
with
that
to
be
a
voice
for
the
community
and
to
look
at
things
like
this-
and
this
is
like
Devin
said
this
is
the
first
time
we've
had
a
process
of
going
through
this.
So
it's
very
new
to
the
to
the
people
on
the
board.
E
Brian
welcome
to
your
first
meeting
so
so
with
that
I
will
make
a
motion
to
deny
the
permit
for
the
appeal.
F
D
I'm
saying
you
either
you
either
motion
to
to
deny
the
development
permit
or
to
approve
the
development.
G
To
Grant
it-
and
let
me
tell
you
why,
for
because
it
is
zoned
correctly
and
I
know
that
that
means
very
little
people
in
the
real
estate
business
and
development
business
in
the
Parish
of
Ascension.
We
we
depend
on
these
things,
these
ordinances,
these
zonings
I,
mean
this
is
what
we
we
base
everything
every
decision
we
make
I
I
do
know
the
traffic
on
73
I,
do
understand
the
cause
of
it
and
believe
me,
since
I've
been
inspired
since
I
was
six
years
old
and
was
full
of
cow
pastures.
A
G
A
F
I'm
gonna
make
a
motion
a
second
and
I'll
explain
why
I've
been
a
life
long
member
of
that
area
in
this
parish.
For
a
long
time,
whole
life
and
I
agree
with
the
public.
You
it's
a
dangerous,
dangerous
area.
F
You
know
so
I
really
feel
what
you're,
what
you're
saying
back
there
I
really
do,
but
to
to
put
the
precedent
to
say
that
we're
not
going
to
allow
people
to
take
their
own
property
and
do
what
they
want
with
in
this
parish
as
long
as
they
abide
by
the
rules
you
you
almost
cannot
set
that
precedent,
even
though
there
are
serious
safety
concerns
which
I
I
totally
agree
with
you
on
that,
so
I
wish
the
staff,
and
maybe
maybe
the
developers
can
figure
out
how
to
make
that
a
little
better
for
these
residents.
F
I
really
wish
that
could
happen,
but
I
do
understand
your
concerns
on
on.
A
The
next
up
on
the
agenda
is,
let's
see
old
business,
we
have
any
old
business,
no.
F
A
And
next
would
be
a
new
business,
and
that
would
be
they
are
wanting
us
to
commit
to
attending
the
December
2028
meeting,
which
is
three
days
after
Christmas,
so
Brian
will
not
be
able
to
make
it.
I
won't
be
able
to
make
it
either
Brandon
won't
better
make.
It
will
it'll,
be
here
a.
D
G
E
D
Lance,
yes,
if
we,
if
we
send
out
the
notice
tomorrow,
three
weeks,
would
be
the.
H
H
E
M
Chairman,
yes,
we're
gonna
have
to
check
with
the
clerk
of
court
yeah
before
we
can
set
the
meeting,
because.
M
A
Right,
okay,
so
how
about
Mr
Mega
you
and
I
can
get
together
tomorrow
and
I
can
text
these
guys.
H
A
A
L
D
Because
it
would
have
to
be
published
tomorrow
to
meet
any
of
the
deadlines,
so
just
a
heads
up
on
that.
Okay
would.
M
G
A
Okay,
all
right!
Next
on
the
agenda,
we
I'll
entertain
a
motion:
John
I'll
motion
motion
by
Brandon
Bennett
second
by
Willie,
Robinson
I,
believe
yeah,
all
in
favor
meeting
the
jar.