Ascension Parish, Louisiana Board of Adjustments, 29 Dec 2022

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Board of Adjustments - December 29, 2022

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I'm gonna call the order the board of adjustments meeting for December 29th 2022.

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um First up we have a roll call, uh Mr Jake, Joe frone president.

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Graham president Mr Eddie, Krause and absent tonight of Mr Brandon Bennett and Mr Willie Robinson and Mr Brian klieber. Okay. Next up, uh we have anybody signed up for any public comments for against the board of adjustments.

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No one sounded.

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Okay, close the public comments. Next I'll entertain a motion for the acceptance of the minutes of the November 30th 2022 meeting I'll.

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Make a motion to accept motion.

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By Jake, Joe Brown second, by Mr, Eddie cross, all in favor motion passes next up. uh Atlanta motion for the acceptance of the written decisions.

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November 30th 2022 meeting.

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Jamaica can I ask you a question.

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Page two there's just a small type of beyond beyond Bill Savannah. Is that something we should talk about on.

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The minutes or the written decisions.

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Written decisions says Brian Bennett to deny Bells the van to develop like it is a it's not a no.

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I'll fix it when.

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Make a motion to accept a motion by Mr Dylan Graham second, by messy Eddie cross. All in favor uh motion passes first up tonight we have a public hearing to consider the following: variances zoning review zoning review ID.

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Pz2988.22 lot 7 of the Dr Doyle F Philippi for Jose Rojas.

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Okay, Mr rolas. You want to step step up to the mic and tell us what you got. Please.

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Hi I'm Martha Rojas, his wife I'll, be translating um so um what we want, or what he wants to do is get a variance for the back for the 20 feet in the back and if we could use 15 of those 20.

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just because of the feet in the front. There's um the flooding that happens in the front of the property.

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Is there a house there now.

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Just begging land.

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Yeah, we um have plans for a house, but we've decided to just go ahead and move a mobile home there and uh we.

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Also have a patio yeah, we have already some post fit to because we wanted to build.

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um Metal building, okay, yeah, so we have a couple things on there, but there's no house.

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Okay, any questions comments. These.

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Are yeah these structures y'all y'all placed them? Were they there when you bought the property.

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No, we placed them.

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And they uh he's talking about the flooding in.

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The front the left side of the property, okay.

D

Is it basically uh and laying somebody to ask you this? Is it just where water naturally goes across the property, or is it like backup, flooding.

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No, it just goes through there. That part is in the flood zone area. That part that that's in the front that she's speaking of you.

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Know what I'm saying like it so when it rains water.

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It rains flows.

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It flows that way.

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Yeah rain off water.

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Yeah I just didn't know. It was like a backup, yeah versus uh coming to me if you're in pain, a natural drainage way I'm more worried about that than backup floating. So.

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All right, Mr, Jake, Joe, Brown.

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uh So the the front of this property you're saying that the water impedes on the property yeah.

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Cannot use it yeah how much it? How much does it impede up on that plot?.

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uh We probably have like 30 feet.

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Is it constant or is it just every when.

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It rains when it rains every time it rains the water, it's just rain off water, that from other properties it just comes, and we've uh talked to an engineer or architect for the mitigation to try to see. If there's anything that can be done- and he said there wasn't, since we didn't have um direct access to the uh like Canal, that's there, we couldn't put a pond there because and then the pond was just eventually going to overflow and flood everything else. Okay,.

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And is it zoned in that spot is its own swamp or anything that Wetlands that we need to know about? No.

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It's not no, but.

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Just a flooded area, it's.

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Located within a flood zone AE, so there's a certain elevation, they would have to be, and they're only allowed to put a certain amount of fill on the property. So.

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They are allowed to use it then.

C

Still, yes, oh yeah, yeah, there's no limitations of them not being able to use it. No, not at all.

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So you're, are you aware of that that you still can use that that piece of your property.

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um You don't need your setback.

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um I'm sorry he's.

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Saying that you still can use that front area of your property.

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um Not including like the 55 feet, setback or how is that.

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No, they couldn't place a building within the setback of the 55 feet.

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They could place a building. You know beyond that, within the flood zone as long as they're above that that elevation, correct.

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Okay, well, we just didn't want to um like kind of mess around with any of that part of the property. Just in case we don't know in the future how the flooding would um continue to to get basically.

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The property that's next to us. What causes a lot of the backup right there as well is that he has an old.

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So he has an old one. There.

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um And it feels good the reason why the.

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Water doesn't pass through because it's stuck there yeah you'd.

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Have to report that to the uh parachute.

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Cleaned out and opened up for you, yeah.

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Because we've looked at it, you know, and we could, because we didn't know if they had one or not, um but once we like really looked at it just to see what was going on with um our property, why the water was backing up so much um but yeah. It's mostly just that. We just didn't know how to go about. We didn't want to put anything there or you know.

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We just didn't want to mess with that. What are you saying? You should still be able to put something? It's just.

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I want to let you know that okay I know it's about the 55 feet. Oh there's any way to we can get up, get a little like 35 or something because or.

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It's just 55., okay,.

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So it's like: it's been really hard for us. You know like we want to build a more little house, but, like I mean we only have I mean, let's say, 55 plus 20 in the bag or 15 whatever it is, I mean we don't have it's only 125.

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Yeah I, don't have nothing, you'd have you'd, have to get you'd, have to get with Lance and get another variants for the 50 and apply for another bearings for the 55 foot front as well.

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Well, right now we're just yeah.

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We already, you know, kind of started the structures in the back of the property. We just wanted to get see if we were to get the variants for those 15 or you.

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Know you're saying your structure is just too big is what you're building that's? Why you're requesting your variants or is there no.

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This is no yeah, so.

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No they're currently standing there right, I didn't go by there today, but uh no.

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Yeah, that's what I'm saying so they're currently running a farm yeah they're currently standing! So this form you have it's just a foam board, yeah, no concrete or nothing.

F

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Okay, so the cover is just like a movable motorhome home cover or something.

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Like that, no that's not like a porch like a standing freestanding porch.

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Concrete and everything.

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Any other questions following up for public on there.

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I'm done for doing public then go back because the only question I would. Let me do this.

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The only question.

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I would have is uh Lance if we were to deny them tonight, we're talking about them. Having to remove this cover and I. Guess it says, shed, there's a little square, they would have to technically take it down correct, correct and the shed that's in the middle of these two buildings is currently a. uh Is that a concrete shed or is it just like a pump house.

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Yeah there is concrete there, but it's a it's. A pretty small.

G

Yeah just pull forward, but the other two we can I mean we're really yeah.

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The other one, the covered porch with that one has Concrete in and roof, and all that good.

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And Lance, let me let me ask you one more before we go to public all, not not to stare at any, but we could do something on the front at this one too. Instead of how to come back right, correct.

C

School wasn't requested correct.

D

Yeah, even though it was a requested, we could still do it to help justify and I do respect I mean I get the water drains through there I remember when this property was available and uh you drink. This is Dr phillippi's old trailer park.

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Yeah, so the water flows back from that Old House in the front.

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Yeah yeah I, don't believe in stopping drainage. If you like y'all, know me, yes,.

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Sir, yes, sir mm-hmm, that's his trail park right. There.

C

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I think this is Todd gotra's house right here. Yeah.

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The water flows like this about the on top of the landlord nothing yeah.

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All right, any other questions full open. Okay, we gotta ask you to have a seat for a second. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. uh We're gonna open this mat up for public hearing Miss Jamaica. Anybody signed up no.

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One signed.

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Up, okay, close the public here me right, I think we're looking at the the whole the existing, the other properties there.

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They uh really nothing back. There yeah.

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But for a uh say about a 75 variance, that's something we just really don't do. I would like to see a promotion for a 10 foot, bearings or you know, 50 or something even up front right. Maybe if y'all yeah I mean put it down with the.

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Front uh as long as it's not impeding drainage like a Devin, the same.

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Is it 55 feet? It's.

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55 yeah from center of the road from Center, yeah I'm. Sorry, it just has the edge of the road here. No.

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It's gonna be from sun, it's gonna, be from here to there 55.

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Lance, it's 55 feet from the center of the road Center.

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Looks like the edge but.

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Yeah I would definitely say the farm was not done, I, don't mind giving something with you, man, uh Steve I, don't want to give a bunch of. If we can move this cover. I'll ask them again, but is it Concrete in the ground or is it.

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Just have to I mean they didn't get permits, they just don't have to prepare a few feet of it. All. It's five, nine six, basically, almost six feet from the back.

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Give them a 10 foot bearings: they have to remove full foot of.

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It or just move the whole thing.

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How do you feel about the front, giving them something to front for a future.

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You want to try to deal with that now. We don't want to get them to come back for extra five in the front. Give them five.

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We have the ability to.

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Do it tonight, if we wanted to skill, we thinking 10 in the front, yeah they'll say just going to look because.

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I get that water flow.

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I can do and Susan places so yeah. Is it gravel? It's it's paved issue.

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Yeah, it's just old, the road is paved it's a it's! A public road, yeah yeah.

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Stuff I like to hit in the back, as always I mean that's just yeah yeah Max.

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Want to call them forward we'll negotiate the front, maybe or.

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Come back up, please yeah.

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I mean yeah, yeah, I didn't know if he had to come back and file with.

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We can do it all the more if we need to okay.

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I'm gonna start with the the unfortunate the current buildings, the form that's built, with no concrete, so I'm, a guy pleasing I like 10 feet in the back, because of drainage reasons the parish having to get back there for any reason, uh just in general keeping the Watershed off of other people's properties. Things like that and being that that is the rear of the property, uh I think I, think 10 would work so I hope y'all.

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If y'all can move that form forward uh to get to a 10-foot part of that setback and the little shed too. If y'all could. Basically, you can get everything forward, 10 feet. Would that be something that could work for y'all.

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We're about 10.

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To 10 people in the front ten feet, like the patio, can't feed everything everything.

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10 feet off the rear properties.

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G

Mean the patio is seven, it's eight feet now. It's eight feet.

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Says I got five nine six five.

G

Well, that's probably five now with the concrete but like actually Where's The Party Store. The poles are like eight feet, I mean not whenever they told me that it was five feet in the beginning. Whenever we start I leave like three feet that way, I would I didn't have no problem. You know, even though so.

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Where it says there, but the actual post to the porch.

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Okay, already yeah yeah.

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The the metal building that, like I, said I couldn't move that one. That's not a problem. You.

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Know yeah, so this covers main purpose is literally a cover cover like a car or something it's.

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Not going to be a porch feature right, it's just like a outdoor patio um like living space for outdoor yeah.

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It's not for cars or anything like that. It's just just.

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So the actual actual the roof of the Porsche doesn't go all the way out. It's just a piece of concrete in the back that.

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All the way out so I mean I think we can remove the piece of concrete. If that's what you.

D

Would Lance can you wouldn't have to move concrete? It's just a structure.

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They start from it's.

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Like eight feet, so you guys would want us to move two two feet: two feet of the structure forward. It.

D

Is it possible without complete destruction? It is I like it that's. So, uh let's talk about the front and in the future, when y'all go to place something else on the property you're going to go towards the front towards Susan, Place Road correct what kind of what kind of structure you think about placing there? Would it be like a mobile home or we're building.

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Trying to go up with a small little house or like what other issues we've been having I think we want to go with a mobile home, okay, but we also want to have I mean a little space. You know.

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In the front for like a covered porch in the front for actual cars,.

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And stuff like that 35 feet from the sand or something you know even.

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Because nothing will be really built on it. It's just just to have like the concrete, like a nice big um driveway stuff like that I, don't think we're gonna build anything in the front like.

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Let me just say the concrete won't matter. It's just gonna be anything that goes out the ground. Okay,.

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Becomes a quote-unquote structure, um I was going to ask if a 10 feet that would be. My idea is to go 10 feet forward to allow a front setback of 45 feet from the center line and Grant you a 10 foot, uh variance on the rear, so.

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It basically says 10.

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Feet off the back 45 feet from the center of Susan Place Road Honda Frontier.

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I understand that bill: how about the size, so the side will be good.

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Need to leave those at five.

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They're five foot yeah, that being said, yeah the discussion.

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Like to make a motion to Grant a variance of 10 feet on the rear of the property line and a 10 foot variance on the front, making it 45 feet from the center of Susan place and 10 feet from the rear.

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Thank you all right. We got a motion. Can I get a second six second by Mr, Eddie Krause, all in favor aye. The motion passes. Thank y'all have.

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A good day happy New, Year.

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Okay, next up, we have zoning review idpz.

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3034.22 lots z1c2 for Jeffrey and Donna claim come on up here. Tell us what's going on assistant.

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Hey I'm Jeff I'm.

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Hello is she living on the property? um It's in my name. It's gonna be in her name I'm, giving her that whole track um she's wanting to put her beauty shop there instead of having to leave space- and this is what we're here for.

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This is a small little clientele just me in there and I just want the variant so I don't have to pave my driveway.

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Are we talking one to five cars a day yeah and not at the same.

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This at Jeff this is on Loop Road um in Prairieville, uh Norwood and 931. Not not your old house, no.

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Is by leaders inside them all.

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Okay: okay, okay down that way out.

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In the country.

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I, don't I don't live in.

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Dutch County, okay,.

A

Well, yeah I knew y'all sold out, but I didn't know if it was around that area, though so so it's really where the Santa Monica.

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Area country area, yeah, yeah.

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All right any questions so.

D

Let me just say: I've already talked to.

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A little bit about this uh they're, let me go ahead and make sure that the Shop's currently in place right. Yes, and basically, what we're doing is. She has a gravel driveway and we just want to make a restaurant to pull the parking lot in our backyard. Yep.

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Maybe 30 foot wide right now with Limestone yeah, so I mean.

A

So it's probably gonna be like two cars yeah parking spot two parking spots, you've.

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Got a carport on the back of her trailer. That is pay uh concrete that which you can put her handicap parking under the carport. Okay good, you know so she's got a handicap spot well,.

A

You you answer the question, that's why I asked it. My question was yeah.

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And that felt concrete.

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Okay, good sound, like y'all got it all figured out any other questions open it up for public here. Anybody no.

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One signed up all.

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Right close, the public here motion discussion.

D

I mean my motion will be to accept uh I mean.

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A small business owner yep doing our best.

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Motion exciting second by Jake, Joe Ferrone, all in favor, aye, Barrington Janet. Thank.

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Have a happy New, Year.

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Here we go. Is this trying?

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Oh yeah? Okay, next up on the agenda, we have any old business, no sir! No any new business, no sir! No new business.

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Motion adjourned by Devin Graham, a second second by Jake, all in favor aye, happy New, Year, Happy, New, Year,.