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Planning Commission - August 10, 2022
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C
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B
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A
F
Yes,
mr
chairman,
the
first
item
under
the
staff
report
was
a
presentation
by
our
consultant
keys,
collaborative
we're
going
to
postpone
that
until
the
next
meeting,
okay,
we've
been
working
back
and
forth
with
the
kennedy
keys
consultants
on
the
ordinance
revisions,
and
we
have
asked
them
to
make
some
some
modifications
to
what
they
prevent
presented
so
far.
So
we're
going
to
ask
them
to
give
that
presentation
at
the
september
meeting.
Okay,
thank
you,
okay
and
I
I
will
work
into
number
b.
F
If
that's
okay
with
you,
yes,
sir,
please
yeah
under
the
subdivision,
you
have
the
matrix,
that's
prepared
by
mr
poche
who's,
unfortunately
not
able
to
make
it
tonight.
We
have
two
projects
that
have
been
that
have
started
since
we
last
talked
to
you.
The
first
is
the
bell:
may
song
project
on
william
ficklin
road.
The
second
is
the
lana
states
on
highway
73.
Both
those
have
started
construction,
or
at
least
they're,
mobilizing
to
start
construction.
F
The
third
project
I'd
like
to
mention,
though,
is
the
one
at
the
very
bottom
windermere
crossing.
One
of
the
conditions
on
that
project
was
that
they
can.
They
widen
cannon
road
from
its
current
17
feet
to
20
feet.
That
project
is
in
construction
right
now,
we're
looking
for
it
to
be
completed
within
the
next
three
to
four,
maybe
five
weeks.
Okay,
so
we're
going
to
have
a
nice
road
20
feet
in
width
from
roddy
all
the
way
to
burnside
right
for
a
distance
of
about
a
mile
all
right.
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A
Next
item
is
affidavit:
affidavit
of
mortgage
declaration
db,
windsor,
llc
creation
of
94
lots,
major
subdivision
final
plat,
17138,
blue
ridge,
road
prairieville,
item
b,
affidavit
of
margaret
declaration
gray,
brothers,
investments,
loss,
12,
b,
1a
and
12
b,
2
in
forrest
oaks
subdivision.
This
is
a
first
filing
one,
five,
three,
eight
eight
and
one
five,
three
nine
four
four
stoke
road
in
prairieville
item
c
is
the
affidavit
of
mortgage
declaration
jody
r
sheets
and
kade
a
sheets
lot:
z,
17208,
highway,
44,
prairieville,
louisiana
item
d
is
mortgage
of
I'm
sorry.
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A
F
Mr
chairman,
members
of
the
commission,
this
item,
this
wetland
ordinance,
was
basically
approved
not
long
ago
with
our
first
batch
of
ordinance
changes
that
appeared
before
the
planning
commission
earlier
in
the
year
went
to
council.
It
was
approved
once
it
was
approved.
We
noticed
that
there
were
a
couple
of
things
that
that
were
a
little
bit
of
skew
with
the
ordinance,
and
we
are
bringing
this
forward
to
you
to
correct
tonight
and
recommend
this
go
to
the
the
to
the
full
council.
F
What's
happening
is
that,
right
now
we
are
asking
for
a
property
owner
or
developer
to
acquire
a
u.s
corps
of
engineers,
jurisdictional
determination
on
wetlands
when
they
submit
the
preliminary
plot.
Typically,
what
happens
is
that
the
consultant
will
the
developer
will
hire
a
consultant
to
identify
those
wetlands
and
then
the
engineer
will
design
around
that
wetland
area
right
and
then,
once
we
file
the
final
plot,
we
require
them
to
have
a
jurisdictional
determination
from
the
corps
of
engineers.
F
Those
usually
take
about
a
year
right
to
get
anywhere
from
8
to
12
to
15
months,
in
some
cases,
all
right.
So,
instead
of
delaying
that
process,
what
we'd
like
to
do
is
continue
what
we
did
in
the
past
and
have
a
determination
outlined
by
the
consultant.
These
people
are
professionals,
they
go
out
there.
They
know
what
wetlands
are
and
they
make
that
determination.
F
That
determination
is
outlined
on
the
preliminary
plat
and
the
engineer
designs
around
those
wetland
areas
right.
So
what
we'd
like
to
do
is
revert
back
to
that
system,
where
we
have
the
consultant
outline
the
the
wetlands
areas
on
the
preliminary
plat
and
we
require
the
jurisdictional
determination
from
the
corps
of
engineers
when
the
final
plot
is
is
approved
right.
The
second
thing
on
here
is
that
we
just
made
a
couple
of
clerical
errors
when
we
wrote
the
ordinance
and
the
word
40.
F
A
F
H
Mellow,
so
is
it
just
some
of
the
housekeeping
and
then
the
I
guess,
the
delay
until
the
final
play.
That
is
an
actual
ordinance
change.
That's
not
just
correcting
some
organ
correct
right,
yes,
okay,
previously
before
this
new
ordinance
came
out,
was
it
that
way
before?
Yes,
it
was
and
then
some
kind
of
way
it
got
changed.
Yeah.
F
F
Yeah,
let
me
preface
this
by
saying
that
in
the
past,
in
the
old
ordinance,
we
never
had
a
wetlands
preservation
portion
of
the
ordinance.
This
is
new,
so
when
we
put
that
in
it
basically
changed
how
of
the
timing
of
when
we
were
outlining
the
or
asking
for
the
wetlands
determination
from
the
core
right.
So
in.
I
F
F
H
F
H
F
H
Is
that
an
option
to
where
we
can
grant
them
a
waiver
that
you
know
give
us
a
specifications
of
your
scope
of
work?
If
you
know,
if
you
think
that
core
is
going
to
be
delayed
for
the
next
three
months
or
four
months,
what
do
you
intend
to
carry
out
during
this
next
three
months
of
work,
where
you
know
we
don't
lose
oversight
of
what's
going
on
in
the
project?
But
we
still
you
know,
they're
not
burdened
with
not
being
able
to
proceed.
F
Not
sure
how
that
how
that
could
work
quite
honestly,
because,
typically,
what
happens?
Is
that
we'll
go
through
the
preliminary
plat
procedure
of
looking
it
over
making
sure
everything's?
Okay,
then
it
comes
to
you
as
a
commission
for
approval
and
at
that
approval
stage
we
have
the
outline
the
the
wetlands
outlined
on
that
preliminary
plat
by
that
consultant,
and
I
would
like
to
continue
using
that
process,
but
I
don't
know
how
waiver
would
work
if
we
have
already
approved
the
preliminary
plan.
F
H
H
With
the
timing
of
fema
still
having
to
do
their
job
and-
and
you
know
the
environmental
groups
still
doing-
I
feel,
like
you,
know
everybody
working
simultaneously.
That
timeline,
I
don't
feel
it
would
be
that
full
12
months
it
would
likely
you
know,
maybe
a
one
or
two
month
delay
there
yeah,
you
know,
but
is
it
that
big
of
a
gap
between
everyone
else
doing
their
job
and
the
corps
of
engineers
doing
there
and
signing
off
on
it
before
this
project
can
actually
get
be
seen
through
yeah.
F
Well,
typically,
what
happens
is
that
once
the
preliminary
platt's
been
approved
and
you've
had
that
outline
on
it
by
the
consultant,
they
will
then
submit
to
the
corps
of
engineers
for
the
wetlands
determination
and
that's
at
that's
what
triggers
the
clock
from
the
core
and
it's
up
to
them
as
to
when
they're
going
to
approve
it.
You
know
so.
F
H
C
Jerome,
my
question
was-
and
I
just
want
want
this-
a
little
clarified.
Yes,
part
part
one
in
where
and
I'll
just
kind
of
briefly
go
in,
maybe
use
for
primary
road.
Primary
road
and
utility
crossings
with
proper
road
and
cross
drains
provided
and
for
other
parish
approved
uses
in
an
amount
not
to
exceed
40
percent
of
the
designated
wetlands
acreage
shown
on
the
wetlands
determination
that
40
percentile
what
what
drove
that
number?
What?
Where
did
we
come
up
with
that.
F
Originally,
when
we
proposed
the
wetland
ordinance,
we
had
it
at
15
right.
So
a
lot
of
this
language.
Basically,
you
know,
you
know,
quite
frankly,
came
from
an
ordinance,
a
similar
ordinance
that
was
in
tangipahoa
parish,
and
we
looked
at
them.
They
had
hired
the
consultant,
so
we
initially
recommended
15
of
the
wetlands
being
utilized
for
those
purposes,
so
it
means
that
85
percent
would
have
to
be
preserved
when
he
got
to
the
council,
the
council
changed
it
to
40.
Okay,.
C
F
C
F
C
I
C
A
So
let
me
just
say
that
one
of
the
issues
I
have
at
this
point
is
this:
is
this
change?
The
ordinance
is
being
presented
to
us
on
our
agenda
and
really
speaking
for
me
personally,
no
one
has
come
to
me
and
had
any
discussion
whatsoever
about
this.
The
rationale
for
it.
Why
would
we
be
doing
this?
Is
mr
scheck's
not
asked?
Was
the
data
we
don't
have
any
of
that?
A
A
That's
only
a
that's
only
a
comment
I'm
making-
and
I
I
I
guess
what
I'm
saying
is
that
when
these
types
of
things
come
to
us
for
a
recommendation
for
approval
of
denial,
I
would
like
to
have
conversations
and
communications
with
those
individuals
that
are
either
for
it
or
against
it.
Prior
to
the
meeting.
So
I
have,
I
can
make
a
more
informed
decision
and
I
would
hope
that
that
would
be
the
same
for
the
other
commissioners,
but
you
know
those
are
my
comments.
A
Okay,
so
this
is
a
public
hearing
to
recommend
approval
or
denial
to
the
parish
council
amendments
to
the
ascension
parish,
unified
land
development
code,
a
item,
a
ordinance
to
amend
the
ascension
parish,
unified
land
development
code,
appendix
5,
drainage,
section,
17-506.2,
a
wetland
preservation,
major
residential
and
commercial
subdivisions
exceeding
20
acres
or
50
lots.
Do
we
have
any
public
comment.
A
A
J
I'll
tell
you
thank
you
so
much
for
allowing
me
to
speak
okay
and
just
a
vast
background
on
me,
30
years
of
advocacy
for
our
wetlands.
What
brought
us
here
today
was
recognizing
that
we
had
a
rather
serious
issue
with
the
flooding
that
you
know.
If
it,
you
know
from
various
issues
with
zoning
and
different
changes
at
any
rate
in
discussion
with
you
know
the
public,
local
elected
officials,
jerome
lance
and
all
of
them.
J
J
So
here
we
are,
and
the
parish
has
got
rapid
growth
and
development.
As
you
all
are
aware
of,
we
kind
of
changed
our
landscape
and
the
wetlands
to
the
south
in
the
southern
part
of
the
parish
are
heavily
degraded,
as
you
all
may
or
may
not
be
aware
of.
So
if
you
look
at
the
the
maripo
basin
and
you
look
at
their
capacity
to
retain
water,
I've
got
it
here.
I'll
show
you
a
little
demographic,
that
kind
of
says
why
we
need
the
wetlands.
J
J
A
J
A
J
J
Is
where
one
acre
of
wetlands
offsets
about
a
million
and
a
half
gallons
of
water,
so
anything
we
can
do
to
protect
them
as
far
as
development
the
wetlands,
I
think
it
can
be
done.
We
just
need
to
change
our
codes
and
ordinances
and
look
at
more
pervious
materials
go
into
more
of
like
what
we
do
in
the
coastal
zone,
which
is
pier
and
beam
or
parents.
J
A
J
J
The
state's
largest
and
oldest
wetlands
advocacy
group
I
served
on
their
executive
board
for
years
till
I
was
term
limited
and
I'm
presently
serving
on
cca's
board
and
will
certainly
be
you
know,
working
with
them,
but
outside
of
that,
I
would
do
restorations,
probably
across
the
state,
probably
have
restored
and
planted
more
trees
and
plants
than
any
other
citizen
in
the
state.
Okay,
thank
you.
J
Okay,
well
and
I'm
happy,
you
know,
y'all
can
join
them.
Y'all
can
give
out.
My
number,
you
can
call
me
anytime,
can't
say
that
I'll
always
get
right
back
to
you,
because
we're
kind
of
all
over
the
place
right
now
with
some
other
wetlands
issues
that
we're
dealing
with
and
I'm
not
paid
to
do
it.
So
I
do
it
because
I
care.
So.
Thank
you
all.
If
you
have
any
questions,
just
let
me
know
you
know
reach
out
to
me.
A
A
C
Well,
I
I
mainly
have
just
a
question
and
mr
fournier,
if
you,
if
you
don't
mind,
I
really
would
like
to
see
a
little
bit
more
data,
if
at
all
possible,
if
we
can
somehow
get
some
of
this
data
that
changed
from
15
to
40..
I
understand
it
was
done
at
the
council
level,
but
if
we're
going
to
be
making
a
recommendation,
that's
something
that
I
want
to
find
out.
Do
we
have
some
data
to
back
up
that
change?
C
Is
it
necessary
and
is
it
you
know?
Are
we
being
too
arduous
at
15
or
we
be
too?
You
know
too
lenient
at
40
percent.
I
think
that
it's
something
that
if
we
have
a
little
bit
extra
data
on
how
many
acres
this
takes
out
of
development
or
increases
into
development,
something
along
those
lines.
If
we
can
have
something
like
that,
that
helps
us
make
a
better
decision
on
that
specific
point-
and
you
know
I
don't
want
to
stop
anybody
else
from
having
this
discussion.
C
H
A
Yeah
this
wetlands
determination
is
a
pretty
it's
pretty
standard
practice.
Frankly
in
the
industry
that
that
I'm
familiar
with
a
lot
of
the
wetlands
are
already
designated
in
the
national
wetlands
inventory
and
as
mr
fournier
said
there
are,
there
are
many
firms
that
that
do
this
type
of
work
consistently
in
fact
it's
their
entire,
it's
their
entire
practice.
So
there
may
be
someone
either
a
wetlands
consultant
or
the
parish's
wetland
professional
that
could
make
a
presentation
to
the
commission
and
and
discuss
that
15
to
40
percent
or
whatever.
H
F
F
There
have
been
some
rather
general
studies.
You
know
on
vacant
property
in
the
parish
that
shows
wetlands,
but
when
you
get
into
a
development
they
want
to
be
very
specific
on
that
particular
piece
of
property.
So
that's
why
they
have
the
determinations
and
get
out
there
and
walk
the
land
and
actually
map
where
the
wetlands
are
right.
So
you
know
from
what
you've
seen
in
these
large,
you
know
real
small
scale
maps
that
cover
a
large
area.
F
A
C
A
A
A
L
About
a
week
ago,
and
just
the
whole
idea
of
I
kind
of
like
a
breakdown
of
what
it's
it's
actually
going
to
affect,
if
it's
going
to
be
a
year,
if
it's
some
kind
of
financial
hardship
like
anything
else
as
to
why
we
would
need
to
do
this,
because
certainly
individuals
when
they're
developing
building
houses,
there's
really
no
discussion
on
that
issue.
It's
either
you
have
the
money
or
you
or
you
don't
or
you
have
the
time
to
do
it
or
the
money
or
you
don't.
L
So
I
just
don't
think
they
denied
it
at
the
board
of
adjustments
to
go
from
dustless
parking,
they
was
trying
to
put
some
type
of
gravel
if
I
remember
right
and
it
was
denied,
so
I
just
I
just
don't
think
that's
the
way
we
should
be
thinking
as
far
as
timing
and
money,
because
individuals
certainly
can't
think
that
way.
You
know
when
they're
building
either
they
have
it
or
they
don't.
So
that's
that's.
My
only
concern.
A
A
K
A
C
I
just
think
that
we,
I
really
just
think
that
we
need
to
re
before
we
pass
this
or
deny
this.
We
need
to
really
revisit
it.
I
definitely
respect
if
we,
if
we
want
to
have
a
denial
of
recommendation
at
that
point,
I'm
not
sure
is
what
what
does
it
solve.
So
I
don't
necessarily
disagree,
but
I
want
to
understand
what
we
would
be
accomplishing.
A
A
K
E
F
A
A
A
C
D
I
I
agree
with
commissioner
shakespeare.
I
mean
I
don't
think
recommending
the
denial
is
going
to
solve
anything.
I
think
if
we
make
a
recommendation
that
this
is
coming
back
to
us
next
next
month
or
month
after
so
that
there's
some
more
discussion
on
this
and
get
more
some
more
information
on
the
change
to
the
jerome
was
the
40
percent.
Is
that
that
that
wasn't
that
already
voted
on
by
the
council?
It.
D
A
Okay,
do
we
have
a
second
to
that
motion
last
second,
so
we
have.
The
motion
is
to
defer
this
item
to
the
next
meeting
and
by
that
time
we
anticipate
having
some
additional
information.
So
we
have
a
motion
of
the
second
motion
about
mr
scheck
schneider
second
by
mr
cl.
No
I'm
sorry
motion
mr
clue
out.
Second,
bishop
scheck
schneider
is
their
discussion.
A
A
L
Type
of
they're
they're
we're
speaking
of
a
timing
issue
everybody's
speaking
of
a
timing
issue,
so
I
would
certainly
like
to
see
something
as
far
as
why
that
is.
I
mean
we're
we're
hearing
that
it's
that
it's
a
year
eight
months
anyway.
So
that's
that's
to
be
expected
if
you're
a
developer
anyway.
So
I'm
just
curious
as
to
some
some
type
of
more
information
on
that.
Okay,.
I
A
That's
indicative
of
why
this
should
be
changed
from
15
to
40.,
and
I
believe
it
would
also
be
helpful
to
this
commission
if
we
could
have
some
some
some
data
that
demonstrates
what
a
normal
time
period
is
for
these
wetlands
activities.
Okay,
eight
months
a
year,
three
months
or
whatever,
okay
that
may
help
some
of
the
commissioners
make
a
decision.
Okay,.