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B
Thank
you
brenda
good
afternoon,
I'm
chair
anna
sexton
and
I
would
like
to
welcome
you
to
the
april
26
2021
neighborhood
advisory
committee,
virtual
retreat
meeting,
and
we
will
now
call
our
retreat
meeting
to
order.
B
The
neighborhood
advisory
committee
consists
of
nine
members
all
appointed
by
the
city
council,
with
representation
from
specific
community
sectors.
Members
shall
be
residents
of
the
city
or
the
city's
extra-territorial
zoning
jurisdiction
and
shall
reflect
the
socio-economic
diversity
of
asheville.
B
The
term
of
office
is
three
years.
The
committee
was
established
to
advise
the
city
council
on
neighborhoods
within
the
city
of
asheville
zoning
and
planning
jurisdiction,
the
city
or
excuse
me.
The
committee
shall
have
the
following
powers
and
duties,
one
to
develop
rules
and
bylaws
for
the
conduct
of
its
business,
including,
but
not
limited,
to
meeting
schedules.
Officers
voting
and
subcommittees
two
develop
a
plan
to
strengthen
neighborhood
identity
and
resilience
and
to
facilitate
communication
and
cooperation
between
asheville's,
neighborhoods
and
city
offices.
B
Three
develop
benchmarks
and
standards
by
which
progress
towards
implementing
the
plan
can
be
measured
and
four
work
on
special
projects
that
are
consistent
with
the
goals
of
the
committee
as
assigned
or
directed
by
city
council,
all
committee
members
and
staff
are
participating
virtually
and
we
appreciate
your
patience
as
we
work
through
committee
meetings.
A
little
bit
differently.
B
Yes,
I
said
that
right,
okay,
for
those
of
you
out
there
with
us
today
welcome,
and
I
will
now
go
through
and
introduce
all
committee
members
who
are
participating
virtually
please
committee
members,
please
make
sure
to
mute
your
microphone.
If
you
are
not
speaking
when
you
have
a
question
or
would
like
to
speak,
please
click
raise
your
hand
or
click
the
raise
hand
button
and
when
recognized
unmute
your
microphone.
B
Please
remember
to
mute
your
microphone
again
after
you're
done
speaking
committee
members,
as
I
call
your
name,
please
say
a
quick
hello
and
where
you
represent,
or
if
you're,
an
at-large
member,
so
anna
sexton
here
I'm
the
chair
and
I
represent
zip
code.
2886
bob
mays.
D
Hello,
I'm
whoop.
Can
you
hear
me.
E
B
B
Great,
thank
you
all
for
being
here
and
additionally
max
city
council
liaison
is
kim
roney
kim,
you
want
to
say
a
quick
hello.
B
Thanks
for
being
here,
ken
all
right
also
in
attendance,
are
our
city
staff
members,
brenda
mills,
staff
liaison
tonight.
B
We
we
also
have
jeremy
lett,
neighborhood
services,
specialist,
dalla,
hitch,
communication
and
public
engagement
department
and
then
from
planning
and
urban
design.
Today
we
have
todd,
okolochani,
stacy,
merton
and
vadilla
saplica
to
help
our
audience
follow
along
I'll
state,
each
section
of
the
agenda
aloud,
and
I
ask
committee
members
to
raise
their
hand
to
speak
and
be
recognized
and
to
please
state
your
name
each
time.
B
Additionally,
our
vice
chair
about
that
maze
is
our
time
keeper
for
each
meeting
and
she
will
signal
when
the
discussion
time
listed
is
expired.
Our
meeting
today
is
intended
to
run
from
5
p.m,
to
7
p.m,
and
we
have
an
ambitious
agenda.
So
babette
is
here
to
help
keep
us
on
track.
B
So
moving
on
to
item
two
of
our
agenda
today,
it's
just
a
review
of
the
retreat
agenda,
a
reminder
that
today
we
will
not
be
making
motions
or
voting
on
any
items.
Rather,
our
purpose
today
is
to
have
discussion
and
develop
a
framework
and
process
for
knack
in
2021
and
into
fiscal
year.
2022,
and
our
agenda
today
includes
a
presentation
on
urban
centers,
an
update
on
the
open
space
task
force
and
ideas
for
next
fiscal
year.
22
work
plan,
and
so
with
that
said,
the
agenda
can't
be
changed
at
this
point.
B
B
So
we'll
move
on
to
item
number
three
where,
as
part
of
our
retreat
work
today,
we'll
have
a
presentation
on
urban
centers
from
the
planning
and
urban
design
department
and
that
department
asked
to
present
to
knack
at
our
april
meeting
since
the
proposed
amendments
are
going
to
city
council
in
june,
and
this
presentation
will
update
knack
on
the
urban
center's
draft
zoning
standards.
B
As
I
understand,
and
it
ties
into
our
mission
to
communicate
and
advise
city
council
on
issues
affecting
neighborhoods,
and
so
our
presentation
will
be
by
planning
an
urban
design
and
thank
you,
planning,
staff
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you.
All.
L
Thanks
anna
and
I'm
just
going
to
speak
just
for
a
brief
moment,
and
I
think
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
vadilla,
but
just
want
to
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
an
update
on
this
urban
centers
initiative
to
you
all
tonight.
This
is
a
project.
That's
probably
been
in
the
works
now
for
about
a
year
and
a
half
or
two
years
or
so
it
seems
like
it's.
It's
been
a
long
time.
L
We
it
slowed
down
somewhat
during
during
the
pandemic,
but
we've
had
an
opportunity
to
to
kind
of
revive
this
project
and
put
it
back
on
the
the
front
burner
so
to
speak.
This
is
one
of
our
first
major
rezoning
initiatives
that
would
help
to
implement
some
of
the
strategies
that
are
found
in
the
living
asheville
comprehensive
plan
about
the
the
rezoning
effort
here
is
really
about
trying
to
accommodate
future
growth
in
the
city
and
kind
of
referring
back
to
an
old
term,
but
smart
growth.
L
How
we
can
link
land
use
and
transportation
decision
making
together
to
try
to
accommodate
and
direct
where
some
of
our
future
growth
and
development
can
occur.
So
just
want
to
give
a
really
that
really
quick
brief
overview
and
again
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here
tonight
and
vadilla
I'll.
Let
you
kick
things
off.
M
So
we
began
working
on
this
initiative
about,
I
think
about
two
and
a
half
years
ago.
Many
of
you
have
seen
it,
but
I'll
still
go
over
the
the
first
part
of
it,
which
is
sort
of
where
it
comes
from.
M
As
todd
said,
it
stems
from
the
the
living
asheville
comprehensive
plan
and
this
slide
bullets
four
of
the
key
or
priority
tasks
that
we're
trying
to
achieve
as
part
of
this
rezoning,
so
I'll
just
read
through
them,
one
we're
dealing
with
a
growing
population
and
we
are
using
this
as
a
way
to
try
to
absorb
the
growing
population.
M
I
mean
in
a
nutshell,
a
lot
of
these
urban
centers
are
significantly
sort
of
underutilized.
They
have
lots
of
surface
parking,
single-story
structures,
so
they
they
seem
like
good
places
to
accommodate
more
people
living
there.
M
We
want
to
mix
different
different
uses
together
and
provide
housing
close
to
jobs,
so
this
is
sort
of
sort
of
related
to
growing
population,
but
making
sure
that
the
people
who
have
new
homes
are
located
in
places
that
have
jobs
and
that
are
easy
to.
You
know
move
around
the
city
which
brings
us
to
the
third
bullet,
which
is
really
about
transit,
supportive
development.
M
The
reason
we
chose
these
first
locations
is
because
they
are
along
the
transit
system
that
is
the
highest
functioning.
What
I'm
sorry?
What
do
we
call
it?
The
I
went
blank,
the
the
system
that
that
arrives
most
often
it's
a.
We
call
it
the
highest
frequency
part
of
our
route,
so
at
least
every
30
minutes,
there's
one
or
another
line
passing
through
these
corridors
and
then,
lastly,
we're
trying
to
improve
the
environment
right.
M
We
we
don't
want
to
just
build
structures,
we're
looking
to
address
climate
change,
this
lack
of
trees
that
we've
found
about
from
a
tree,
canopy
study
and
all
those
other
environmental
conditions.
So
we
want
to
make
these
beautiful
places
that.
L
H
M
Environment
and
and
climate
next
slide,
please
which,
by
the
way
this
is
only
a
presentation
of
I
think,
six
slides.
So
I
won't
be
talking
for
too
long
and
then
we
can
open
it
up.
So
this
slide
is
to
fill
you
in
on
the
process.
Initially,
we
had
one
phase.
We
are
going
to
rezone
all
the
projects
at
the
same
time,
but
we
have
broken
them
into
two
phases.
So
on
this
map
you
see
that
there
are
three
sites
that
are
part
of
phase
one.
M
So
those
are
scheduled
to
move
forward
basically
this
summer
and
then
the
phase
two,
which
is
patton
avenue
and
the
asheville
mall,
will
move
forward
subsequently
and
we
don't
have
a
date
for
those
yet.
But
you
know
sometime
soon,
thereafter,
the
the
map
is
interactive
and
you
can
go
to
our
website,
which
is
on
the
plannings
planning
department's
website,
and
you
can
just
you
know,
zoom
around
and
see
which
sites
are
are
being
considered
for
the
rezoning
next
slide.
Please.
M
So
the
next
three
slides
will
just
highlight
some
of
the
the
big
ideas
that
are
coming
out
of
this
rezoning
and
we're
trying
to
keep
this
succinct.
But
these
really
capture
the
the
bulk
of
what
these
rezonings
propose
to
do.
The
first
one
is
to
implement
a
form-based
zoning
code
so
for
those
who
who
aren't
well-versed
in
zoning,
these
are
the
regulations
that
guide
development
and
form-based
codes
have
to
do
with
a
greater.
M
Housing
is
a
key
concern
in
asheville,
as
you
all
know,
and
what
we're
proposing
as
part
of
this
initiative
is
to
incentivize
housing
with
commercial
development.
So
there
are
three
images
on
the
right
and
really
what
we're
proposing
is
that
we
will
allow
new
development
to
move
forward
and
have
a
certain
base
amount
of
square
footage
that
is
allowed
for
them.
So
let's
say
you
want
to
open
up
a
taco
bell
and
you're
only
5
000
square
feet.
Well,
we
give
you
20
000
square
feet.
M
So
if
you're
under
20
000
square
feet-
and
this
number
is
still
being-
you
know-
worked
through
a
little
bit,
but
then
you
don't
have
to
provide
housing,
but
once
you
reach
the
the
base
square
footage
that
we
allow,
after
that,
in
order
to
get
more
square
footage,
you
have
to
provide
housing,
and
if
you
provide
one
market
rate
unit,
we
give
you
1
000
square
feet
of
additional
commercial
space.
M
M
So,
in
order
to
achieve
your
forty
thousand
square
foot
store,
you
would
have
to
build
20
apartments
and
you
could
build
them
either
as
option
one
displays
within
the
same
structure
or
you
could
do
them
detached,
but
on
the
same
on
the
same
lot,
and
if
you
can
provide
affordable
housing,
we
provide
more
commercial
space
so
effectively
it's
easier
for
you
to
to
get
what
you
need
to
get
and
you
don't
have
to
provide
as
much
housing.
M
Another
element
is
master
planning
as
part
of
this
rezoning.
There
are
some
real
large
sites
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
address
community
concerns
and
neighborhood
concerns
and
so
we're
requiring
that
any
large
project
that
comes
forward
and
we
define
that
as
being
two
acres
or
larger
it.
They
need
to
provide
a
conceptual
master
plan
for
what
they
are
looking
to
do.
M
That
doesn't
mean
that
the
the
concept
will
necessarily
carry,
but
they
have
to
have
thought
through
where
the
streets
are
located,
how
the
requirements
for
our
sidewalks
and
pedestrian
connectivity
are
going
to
work
they're
going
to
have
to
ensure
that
they
can
meet
all
of
their
requirements
for
tree
planting,
for
open
space
and
and
to
understand
where
the
the
housing
units
will
go
and
how
they
will
look.
You
know
how
many
stories
etc,
so
that
that
should
help
all
neighborhoods
to
to
really
understand.
M
Last,
I
think
this
is
the
last
slide
just
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
schedule
which
I
sort
of
outlined,
but
basically
we're
moving
we're
proposing
to
move
forward
with
the
phase
one
this
summer.
So
as
early
as
june
2nd,
we
could
be
going
to
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
commission
if
we
stay
on
schedule,
and
then
you
know
shortly
after
that,
we'd
be
going
to
city
council
for
their.
You
know
two-part
review
and
then
council
vote.
M
F
Hi
there
thank
you
for
that
presentation,
an
update.
I
remember
when
you
presented
to
us
last,
so
I
just
have
two
questions.
F
My
first
is,
I'm
just
wondering
why
was
the
rezoning
put
into
phases
since
I
believe
when
you
last
spoke
to
us,
it's
just
rezoning,
there's
no
development
actually
planned
yet.
So
I'm
just
wondering
why
why
delay
it
and
then
my
second
question
is
I'm
wondering
if,
with
the
master
plan
submission,
will
there
be
a
requirement
to
alert
adjoining
neighborhoods,
not
just
people
within
200
feet,
but
actually
the
neighborhood?
M
Great
okay!
Well,
so
your
first
question
about
the
phasing
a
couple
of
things
happened
that
derailed
our
initial
thought
on
this.
First
as
part
of
the
hotel,
ordinance
and
hotel
moratorium
council
requested
that
we
add
the
asheville
mall
to
the
urban
centers
initiative,
because
there
was
some
some
real
concern
that
there
are
lots
of
properties
that
that
well,
there
was
at
the
time
there
was
some
concern
about
hotels
and,
and
so
it
was
decided
that
we
should
integrate
the
asheville
mall.
With
this
project.
M
We
weren't
ready
to
do
that
immediately,
and
so
we
we
certainly
needed
a
second
phase,
at
least
for
that.
At
the
same
time,
we've
been
in
discussions
with
emma
and
the
burton
street
communities
around
what
we're
proposing
at
patton
avenue
and
their
interest
in
having
more
discussions
and
understanding.
M
You
know
how
how
the
project
can
move
forward
and
ensure
community
concerns
are
addressed,
so
we
just
thought,
let's
just
slow
down
since
we
have
to
move
forward
with
the
asheville
mall
on
a
separate
timeline.
We
decided
to
take
out
the
patton
avenue
site
and
have
it
go
along
that
separate
track
of
time.
F
Yeah,
I'm
wondering
if,
with
the
master
plan,
submission
like
when
a
developer
is
actually
ready
to
build
their
will
there
be
or
could
there
be
a
requirement
to
alert
an
adjoining
neighborhood.
M
Right,
well,
I'm
not
sure
about
a
requirement
to
notify
a
neighborhood.
We
do
have
tools
that
allow
anybody
to
sign
up
to
be
notified
with
any
development
that
comes
down
the
pike.
So
we
can
help
to
disseminate
that
information
in
those
links.
Even
while
this
this
retreat
is
going
on,
we
can
share
those
with
you
and
brenda
can
can
get
them
to
you,
so
you
can
have
them
for
yourselves
and
to
forward
them
around.
M
That
would
probably
be
the
best
the
best,
because
it
allows
you
to
sign
up,
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
by
zip
code
or
by
neighborhood,
but
then
you're
notified
by
email
immediately
when
a
project
is
submitted,
and
you
can
look
through
all
of
the
submitted
documents
and
look
at
the
site
plan
and
you
know
begin
any
community
discussion
as
soon
as
anybody
else
has.
The
information.
M
When,
when
an
application
is
submitted,
I
don't
know
how
how
quickly
after
the
application
is
submitted,
but
dsd
through
simplicity,
which
is
this.
You
know
web
web
app
that
the
city
manages
has
that
it.
It
notifies.
Whoever
wants
to
be
signed
up
and
you
can
be
signed
up
for
the
whole
city.
If
you
want
to
know
anytime
something's
coming
down
the
pike,
you
don't
have
to
just
be
notified
to
your
community.
F
Yeah
I'm
signed
up
for
that,
and
it's
never
worked
for
me.
I
don't
I've,
never
gotten
anything
from
it.
I
don't
know
why
not!
Okay,
I'm
just!
I
think
that
what
we
hear
a
lot
from
neighborhoods
is
they
just
don't
have
enough
time
once
they
find
out
something's
happening
before
you
know
things
start
moving
so
so.
M
All
right
I'll,
let
other
people
talk
just
just
to
close
on
that
note
quickly.
You
know,
let
me
know
follow
up
with
me
or
others
at
dsd
and
we'll
follow
up
on
that
I
mean
I
get
the
notes,
the
development
notices
from
my
neighborhood
and
I
they
cut.
They
come
to
my
inbox,
so
they
should
come
to
yours
if
you're
having
them.
I
Good
good
evening,
pastor
hardaway.
I
think
I
understand
or
grabs
the
concept
of
the
incentive
to
want
more
footage.
You've
got
to
add,
afford
or
you
have
to
add
housing
or
some
kind
of
housing,
but
there's
no
incentive
saying
that
what
percentage
of
housing
that
should
be
affordable.
I
And
again
they
could
they
could.
Actually,
someone
could
say,
I'm
going
to
add
housing
and
that's
the
incentive
they
get
more
additional
space.
Is
there
a
requirement
that
of
that
housing
that
they
that
they
provide
certain
percentage,
has
to
be
affordable
housing
and
is
there
a
greater
incentive
if
all
of
its
affordable.
M
Housing
there
is
a
greater
thank
you
for
the
question.
There
is
a
greater
incentive
incentive
for
provision
of
affordable
housing.
You
get
twice
as
much
square
footage
commercial
square
footage
as
you
do
with
market
rate
housing.
So
using
that
same
example,
if
you
want
to
build
20
000
square
feet,
and
we
only
give
you
20
000
as
a
base,
you
either
need
to
provide
20
market
rate
apartments
or
10,
affordable
housing
units
at
80
percent
ami,
so
you're
not
required
to
provide
affordable
housing.
I
G
Hi
everybody
I'm
also
on
can
so
I
want
to
answer
the
question
regarding
we're
working
on
can,
with
a
200
foot
rule
notification
on
neighborhoods,
with
chris
collins
and
other
people
on
staff
to
make
changes
in
that,
and
it
looks
like
it's:
it's
we've
come
to
some
agreements.
We
just
need
to
formulate
it
more,
so
that
is
in
the
works
through.
Can
I'm
hoping
that
there
is
a
methodology
we
can
do
by
informing
groups
of
neighborhoods
when
development
development
is
going
on
in
additional
areas?
So
vadilla?
G
I
don't
think
you
know
that
that's
going
on
either
and
we've
been
working
with
chris
now
we're
doing
another
meeting.
I
think
this
week
it
could
be
next
week,
but
we've
been
having
regular
meetings
on
this
discussion.
How
we
on
can
can
facilitate
and
help
staff
in
this
process
of
neighborhoods
that
are
not
registered,
so
we've
got,
we've
got
a
game
plan.
We
just
haven't
fleshed
it
out
yet
so,
and
also
with
this
report
in
in
can
that
I
got
a
couple
days
ago.
G
I
just
we
made
a
comment
that
eighty
percent
ami
is
not
affordable
for
most
people
and
that
we
would
like
to
see
more
incentivization
of
a
lower
or
more
diverse
ami
than
the
straight
ahead.
G
80
percent,
and
then
also
there
was
some
concern
that
with
affordable
housing,
we
could
go
higher,
even
if
it
was
step
back
that
if
we
had
a
40
foot
base
that
we
could
go
double
that
or
maybe
not
double
as
being
hyperbolic
more
with
the
more
affordable
housing
that
was
added
to
it,
that
a
a
development
could
go
much
higher
than
what
the
zoning
requires,
and
so
that
was
just.
G
I
don't
want
to
take
up
a
lot
of
time,
but
that
was
just
a
couple
of
things
that
were
mentioned
that
we're
working
with
staff
and
our
notes
on
that
through
can
as
well,
and
I
can
share
those
with
knack
when
we
get
it
all
formulated.
B
Thanks
sharon,
I
think
that
we
have
babette
gave
us
a
two
minute
warning.
I
think
we
technically
have
until
5
30
to
stay
on
track.
We've
got
comments
or
questions
from
peter
wendy
and
brenda
to
get
through.
So
just
being
mindful
of
that,
let's
go
ahead,
peter,
go
ahead
and
and
we'll
get
through
the
remaining
three.
D
I'll
be
very
brief.
Some
people
in
the
neighborhood
here
were
asking
about
trees
in
open
space,
which
we
had
heard
about
because
we're
near
one
of
the
areas
tunnel,
road
and
chungs,
and
so
I
I
just
wanted
to
know
so
I
can
tell
them
where
does
trees
and
open
space
fit
in
with
this
whole
urban
center
type
of
thing?
And
when
will
that
be
looked
at?
Thank
you.
M
So
you
can
read
about
that
and
understand
how
that
works
and
and
that'll
be
applicable
and
open
space
is,
is
currently
being
reworked
with
the
open
space
task
force
and
you'll
hear
an
update
on
that.
I
think
after
I'm
done
here.
F
Real
quick,
but
whatever
we
come
up
with
the
the
new
urban
centers,
will
still
have
to
meet
the
open
space
requirements.
J
Thank
you
very
much.
Anna.
I
am
represent
28804
and
I
would
like
to
know
where,
on
mariman,
you
are
targeting
this
phase.
One.
M
So
it's
basically
all
the
property
from
about
ingles
on
one
side
of
the
road
through
the
other
side
of
the
road
that
includes
is
it
called
fresh
market?
You
know
where
the
sinkhole
was
and
the
south
to
steinmart
and
that
shopping
area
so
basically
kind
of
the
big,
the
bigger
boxy
areas.
M
And
again
you
know
this
isn't
necessarily
changing
any
businesses.
It's
it's
changing
the
future
redevelopment
so
that
once
a
building
is
redeveloped,
it
would
have
to
comply
with
new
standards.
M
J
A
And
I'm
gonna
be
real,
quick.
I
would
like
to
invite
development
services
to
one
of
your
future
meetings
may
or
june.
So
you
can
hear
the
process
of
how
development
works.
A
You
cannot
submit
an
application
without
a
neighborhood
meeting
and
we
have
been
working
really
hard
with
developers
to
say
there's
more
than
just
200
feet
so
as
we
work
with
them
in
the
pre-application
stage,
we're
talking
to
them
about
the
areas
that
would
need
notifications
so
and
sharing
is
correct.
We've
gotten
some
wonderful
information
from
can
and
city
staff
is
working
on
that.
A
Also,
if
you
go
to
simple
city
and
look
everything
you
need
to
know
about
development
is,
there
explains
everything
and
we're
also
asking
the
developers
to
post
their
neighborhood
meetings
there.
So
I
just
wanted
to
add
that,
as
a
breath
of
hope,.
B
Thank
you.
I
know
that
yeah
this
is
it's
really
hard
to
squeeze
this
into
20
minutes
with
updates
and
and
questions
and
comments
from
everybody,
and
I'm
wondering
too,
if
you
know,
if
mac
folks
have
any
additional
questions
or
comments,
we
can
collect
those
offline
and
see
if
we
can
get
those
answered,
but
in
the
interest
of
time,
thank
you
bob
for
being
an
effective
time.
B
Keeper
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
item
on
the
agenda,
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
again
to
todd,
stacy
and
bedella
for
I'm
taking
the
time
to
present
to
us
and
answer
our
questions
today.
B
We
wanted
to
also
anytime
staff
is
asked
to
present
it's
always
nice
to
have
them
go
first,
so
that
they
can
get
home
once
they're
done
with
presentations.
I
know
I'm
on
that
side
of
the
coin,
sometimes
too
so.
Item
number
four
on
our
agenda
today
is
an
update
on
the
open
space
amendments
task
force,
which
that's
already
coming
up
in
some
of
the
questions
that
were
asked
regarding
urban
centers
and
sharon,
and
I
are
the
knack
liaisons
on
that
task
force.
B
Sharon
is
also
on
the
urban
forestry
commission
and
knows
much
more
the
intricacies
and
the
technical
aspects
of
this.
So
I'm
here
to
support
her
in
that
update,
but
I
will
turn
it
over
to
you.
Sharon.
G
We
finally
are
just
getting
in
as,
as
vadilla
knows,
who's
sharing
this
whole
thing
into
the
meat
of
the
matter
of
discussion
as
we're
going
line
by
line.
I
don't
want
to
take
up
a
lot
of
time
on
it,
because
it's
it's
a
complicated
process
and
I
don't
even
know
how
to
make
it
short.
Unless
you
want
to
email
me
and
ask
me
specific
questions.
G
We've
been
talking
a
lot,
mostly
this
last
meeting
about
areas
that
are
exempt
from
open
space
like
river
arts,
district,
central
business
district
and
how
we've
got
heat
island
effects
in
those
area
and
how
we
can
make
it
equitable
to
so.
The
developer
is
not
having
the
cost
burden
of
if
we
want
to
make
open
space
a
requirement
so
that
we
can
green
space
up
cbd
and
then
there's
worried
that
rad
has
got
a
lot
of
open
space
now,
but
we
look
at
the
future
and
think
well.
G
Is
it
going
to
always
have
this
open
space?
So
there's
a
lot
of
dialogue
among
all
of
us
and
it's
been
pretty
darn
good,
I'm
not
sure
how
we're
going
to
go
about
getting
into
the
consensus
mode
of
things,
but
I
would
say
our
last
meeting
that
we
had,
which
was
our
fourth
meeting,
was
as
getting
into
the
heart
of
the
problem
with
typologies.
G
And
if
you
want
information
on
what
this
looks
like
everybody
can
email
me
I'll
put
my
email
address.
If
you
don't
have
it
and
I
can
send
you
a
copy
of
what
open
space
looks
like
and
then
you
can
ask
questions,
because
I
just
really
can't
give
a
short
synopsis
of
open
space.
It's
really
too
darn
complicated,
but
we're
all
working
together
and
we're
working
well
and
we
all
have
diverging
opinions,
but
I
think
somewhere
down
the
line,
we're
all
going
to
get
to
a
consensus
one
way
or
the
other.
G
B
Thanks
sharon
she's
she's,
been
to
more
meetings
than
I
have
and
has
been
working
on
this
for
a
long
time.
So
definitely
is
the
one
to
go
to
with
with
questions
and
and
comments,
but
I
think
today
too
it's
a
lot
to
take
in,
but
if
anyone
here
has
specific
questions,
please
raise
your
hand
and-
and
we
can
go
through
those
but
also
think
about
from
a
neighborhood
perspective.
What
are
some
of
the
things?
A
B
A
I
just
want
to
remind
the
committee:
please
don't
use
chat
because
we
people
are
listening
on
the
phone
and
they
can't
read
your
chat
messages.
So
if
you
want
to
send
information,
if
you'll
send
that
directly
through
email
or
you
know-
you
have
to
be
verbal
because
they
cannot
understand,
you
know
the
chat.
So
I
appreciate
that
thanks
everyone
doing
a
great
job.
Thank
you.
B
That's
a
good
reminder
I'll,
say
last
call
for
for
any
questions
or
comments
on
open
space
and
we
don't
get
anything
we'll
move.
B
On
all
right,
so
now
we're
moving
on
to
item
number
five
ideas
for
mac's
work
plan
for
fiscal
year
2022,
and
this,
I
think,
is
really
getting
into
sort
of
the
the
meat
and
the
bones
of
sort
of
what
we're
calling
a
work
session
here
today
and
the
the
things
that
we
have
under
this
item
include
discussing
knack
bylaw
revisions,
discussing
outreach
to
various
regions
in
the
city,
attendance
at
other
boards
and
commissions,
the
neighborhood
hero
process
and
next
steps.
B
B
This
was
something
that
has
come
up
in
conversation
with
folks,
but
also
in
the
google
form
that
brenda
put
together
and
that
we
asked
mac
members
to
to
provide
feedback
on
which
actually
all
of
those
responses
are
included
in
your
meeting
materials
today.
B
So
you
should
be
able
to
have
access
to
those
and
read
through
some
of
the
ideas
and
feedback
generated
through
that,
and
one
of
the
main
things
that
we'll
need
to
do
regarding
amending
our
bylaws
is
look
at
if
and
how
they
should
change
because
of
the
additional
neighborhood
services
staff.
Who
will
begin
taking
meetings
who
will
start
taking
meeting
minutes
in
july
2021,
and
I
believe
joe
will
also
be
rotating
off
of
knack
around
that
time.
B
B
I
know
that's
come
up
as
well
frequency
of
meetings,
things
where
or
in
the
past,
we've
met
monthly.
That's
what
is
stated
in
the
bylaws
recently
and
due
to
the
pandemic,
we've
gone
to
a
bi-monthly
model.
Maybe
we
want
to
amend
our
bylaws
to
allow
for
more
flexibility
where
we
can
call
a
meeting
every
month
or
every
other
month,
depending
on
what
types
of
agenda
items
we
have
on
the
table
and
yeah.
B
So
that's
that's
where
we
are
with
that
and
just
want
to
open
the
floor
up
to
folks
to
get
your
thoughts
on
those
things
and
I
see
joe's
hand
raised
so
go
ahead.
H
Yes,
this
is
joe
speaking
on
article
one
section
2
about
representation.
I
think
we
need
to
define
what
representation
means.
We
were
not
elected
by
people
in
a
neighborhood
or
in
a
region.
We
were
appointed
by
city
council
to
represent
the
entire
city,
and
I
think
that
that
is
going
to
affect
our
outreach
into
neighborhoods.
Where
we
say
we
represent
a
neighborhood,
we
don't
represent
them.
We
represent
the
entire.
H
G
H
You
you
repre,
you
live
in
28805,
but
you
don't
advocate
or
or
represent
the
interests
of
only
your
neighborhood,
or
only
your
region,
you're
you're
responsible
for
the
entire
city's
neighborhoods.
G
I
guess
I'd
have
to
take
a
look
at
that
reading
to
see
how
you
get
that
interpretation.
Is
that
a
legal
definition
of
knack
in
its
organizational
criteria.
H
The
minutes
of
the
very
first
knack
meeting
in
2012,
the
very
first
item
made
by
the
chair,
was
that
we
should
remove
the
notifica
the
representation
of
zip
codes
from
the
the
members
of
the
committee,
because
we
represent
the
entire
city
and
we've
been
moving
away
from
that
just
based
on
the
coverage
that
this
is
that
the
city
council
requested
that
we
have
coverage
from
each
of
the
zip
codes.
H
G
So
what
I'm
hearing
you
say
is
we
either
we
need
to
come
to
a
consensus
on
what
are
what
our
criteria
actually
is,
because
we
can
change
by
vote.
How
we
want
to
interpret
ourselves.
Isn't
that
correct.
B
Yes,
but
yes,
that's
correct
and
that's
sort
of
the
the
genesis
of
of
this
discussion
where
also
wanna
acknowledge
here
in
a
second
whose
hand
is
raised,
but
I
wanna
also
say
that
today
we
don't
necessarily
have
to
come
up
with
an
answer,
because
we
do
have
a
limited
amount
of
time
and
I
think
it's
something
that
will
require
more
in-depth
work.
B
I
I
So
we
do
kind
of
represent
that
that
zip
code
that
we're
assigned
to,
if
it
wasn't
then
we
would
just
be
assigned
to
there
will
be
there'll-
be
no
need
to
have
the
zip
codes
there
and
saying
I
represent
this
zip
code.
There
are
there,
because
that's
the
ideal
and
concept
that
I
think
city
council
and
those
who
started
initiated
the
the
that
had
had.
That
was
their
intention
of
getting
some
representation
from
the
neighborhoods
in
those
zip
codes.
I
B
Thank
you,
brenda.
Please
go
ahead.
A
I
think
they
all
have
answered
my
questions.
I
think
you're
getting
there,
but
you
will
have
to
go
back
to
city
council,
because
the
resolution
from
1998
established
those
zip
codes
and
I
think
the
the
joe
is
correct.
You
do
represent
the
entire
city,
but
the
goal
is
to
make
sure
all
regions
of
the
city
were
represented,
so
you
don't
have
everybody
from
central
or
everybody
from
west
or
whatever.
A
F
Hi
thanks.
I
would
like
to
propose
a
slight
amendment
to
section
one
under
article
two
of
duties,
our
purpose.
F
It
says
the
purpose
of
mac
is
to
advise
the
city
council
on
neighborhoods
within
the
city's
planning
and
zoning
jurisdiction
to
me.
That
simply
says
that
we
tell
city
council
what's
going
on
in
neighborhoods,
but
in
reality
we
do
a
lot
more
than
that
in
supporting
neighborhoods
trying
to
help
them
to
develop
neighborhood
associations.
F
Bringing
you
know.
If
they
have
problems,
we
try
to
help
neighborhoods
resolve
them,
so
I
would
propose
that
we
slightly
change
the
purpose
to
add
in
that
we
also
support
neighborhoods
or
serve
as
a
communication
conduit,
we're
not
simply
just
reporting
to
city
council
about
what's
going
on
with
neighborhoods.
B
B
I
want
to
throw
out
the
idea,
because
I
think
that
this
is
a
task
that
is
important
for
everybody
to
sort
of
review
and
comment
on,
but
may
be
better
tackled
through
having
a
handful
of
folks
work
on
on
a
starting
point,
seeing
if
there
may
be
interested
or
maybe
interest
in
forming
a
subcommittee
to
review
and
propose
some
amendments
for
for
bylaws,
so
I
do
see
joe's
hand
up
so
go
ahead.
Joe.
H
B
Agree,
peter,
I
see
your
hands
as
well.
Please
go
ahead.
D
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
put
my
hat
in
the
ring
too,
for
this
subcommittee.
Just
just
something
to
reflect
on.
I
guess
is
I'm
not
quite
sure
what
a
neighborhood
is.
You
know
I've
looked
at
the
website.
I've
seen
you
know
the
registration
form,
but
I
to
me
it
needs
to
be
a
little
tighter.
I
mean
I
live
in
a
40
home,
hoa
type
of
area
that
has
actually
you
know
a
council
and
stuff.
I
could
call
that
a
neighborhood,
but
it's
really
not
that
big.
D
So
this
is
one
of
the
things
I
I'd
like
to
work
on
with
that.
But
put
me
down
for
the
subcommittee.
B
Great,
thank
you
passed
our
heart
away,
see
your
hand
up
as
well.
I
Yeah,
I
I've
been
on
this
committee
for
a
good
little,
while
probably
the
longest
other
than
outside
of
job,
and
I
think
yeah
there's
times
we'll
need
to
go
back
and
revise
or
to
look
at
some
of
the
changes
that
need
to
be
made.
But
we
do
have
a
footprint
and
I'd
like
to
be
on
that
committee,
even
though
I'm
a
short
term,
if
possible,
just
to
kind
of
offer.
Some
insights
and
some
suggestions.
B
Wonderful
that
was
easy.
We've
got
three
volunteers
already,
I
think
you
know
three
is
is
a
good
number.
I
think
if
anybody
else
thinks
it
over
and
may
be
interested
shoot
me
an
email
and
we
can
kind
of
figure
things
out
from
there,
but
my
understanding
is,
it
doesn't
require
any
sort
of
vote
today
for
to
form
a
subcommittee
to
do
that.
B
So
right
now,
we've
got
joe
peter
and
pastor
hardaway
with
maybe
a
goal
for
our
may
meeting
is
to
have
some
some
good
leg
work
done
on
a
draft
where
you
all
can
come
and
provide
us
an
update
on
that
joe.
I
see
your
hand
up
so.
H
C
Let's
see
you're
here,
yes,
yes,
I
was
I'm
kind
of
concerned
kind
of
want
to
understand
something.
If
we're
going
to
call
this
a
task
force
committee
and
joe,
I
appreciate
all
of
your
input,
but
if
you're
coming
off
in
july
or
then
I
don't
know
how
effective
you
would
be
as
far
as
being
on
the
task
force
for
this
neighborhood
thing,
I
would
like
to
be
on
that
because
I
do
agree
that
we
don't
know
our
neighborhoods.
C
It's
good
that
we
have
different.
The
zip
codes
is
very
important
because
we
cannot.
We
cannot
cover
all
of
the
area
of
asheville
and
I'm
living
in
2003
and
that's
shiloh
large
group,
but
I
also
engaged
with
the
ew
pearson
and
that
would
be
burton
street
and
east
end
valley
street
neighborhoods.
C
So
it
does.
It
can
be
complex
if
you're
talking
about
that,
we
were
all
you
know,
instead
of
being
by
zip
codes
that
we're
all
part
of
that
we
come
together
with
information
that
we
do
have.
So
I
would
like
to
be
on
that,
if
you're
going
to
call
it
subcommittee
or
task
force-
and
I
would
like
to
be
on
that
commitment.
B
Thank
you
bob.
How
does
this
sound
since
joe
will
be
rotating
off
in
a
few
months
as
well?
It
would
be
good,
I
think,
we're
not
violating
any
sort
of
quorum
by
having
a
fourth
person
on
that
task
force
and
adding
bobet.
Am
I
correct
brenda?
B
A
Go
ahead,
I
just
want
to
add
that
both
pastor,
hardaway
and
joe
rotate
off
you
may
want
to
add
one
more
person,
just
yeah,
I'm
assuming
I'm
assuming
their
work
may
be
done
by
june,
but
just
in
case
it's
not,
you
may
want
to
add
another
person.
I
don't
know
it's
up
to
you.
B
A
Of
so
they're,
just
putting
together
ideas
for
you
to
vote
on
quorum
only
comes
in
when
you're
voting
or
making
decisions
so
you're
good.
That's
a
great
question
they're,
just
putting
together
a
report
for
you
all
to
react
to
in
may
and
from
that
point
you
can
vote
on,
we
want
you
to
go
back
out.
This
is
my
work
on
this
and
then
whatever
they're,
not
making
any
votes,
they're
just
putting
information
together
and
kind
of
working
together.
I
guess
I
was
sort
of
thinking
about
after
june,
but
they
should
be
finished
by
june.
B
We
can,
if
yeah,
I'm
I'm
thinking
the
four
of
you
right
now
would
be
good
and
if
we
get
into
next
month
and
even
june,
knowing
that
two
folks
are
going
to
cycle
off
of
that,
we
can,
we
can
go
from
there.
B
I
see
hands
raised
I'll,
go
down
the
line
really
quickly,
and
then
we
have
to
move
on
to
the
next,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
I've
got.
Everybody
acknowledge
the
joe.
H
The
only
thing
I'm
not
sure
of
is
how
we
convene
this
task
force
in
person
by
zoom,
or
his
staff
need
to
be
involved
with
this
in
order
to
do
a
zoom
meeting,
or
do
we
do
by
phone
or
email
or
what
it
just
opens
up
a
whole
new
can
of
worms.
For
me,.
A
Do
you
wanna,
do
you
have
sure
I'm
glad
to
set
up
any
meetings
to
gather
you
all
together
you
and
that
way
I
can
help
you
with
any
research
that
you
may
need
from
me
glad
to
do.
E
B
That's
easy:
pastor,
hardaway.
I
Oh
understanding
that
the
brevity
of
my
my
term,
if
need
be,
I
don't
have
to
be
on
the
committee.
I
can
step
off
if,
if
we
needed
to
keep
it
at
a
certain
amount,
that
was
my
suggestion.
So
if,
if
not,
I
don't
mind
standing
on
on
the
committee
or
task
force
or
whatever
we're
going
to
call
ourselves
again
again.
If,
if
we.
E
B
This
is
anna.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
that,
but
I
think
it
would
be
valuable
to
have
you
on
on
that
task
force
and
would
be
a
great
way
to
get
some
more
just
information
and
knowledge
from
you
before
you
leave
knack.
So
thank
you
for
hearing.
F
Hi
thanks
this
is
greta.
I
just
want
to.
I
guess
confirm
so
the
what
we're
talking
about
right
now
is
is
revising
the
bylaws
and
it
sounds
like
there
is
some
overlap
on
what
the
zip
code
role
is,
but
we're
also
going
to
be
talking
about
regions
in
the
city
of
asheville.
So
will
that
task
force
be
overlapping?
That
or
are
they
two
different
topics.
B
This
is
anna.
Thank
you,
greta.
That's
a
perfect
segue
into
our
next
topic
of
regions
in
the
city
of
asheville,
so
they
do
overlap,
but
they
are
separate
topics.
So,
let's
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
that
sub
item
and
we've
got.
B
I
think,
another
15
minutes
to
talk
about
this
as
well
and
and
discuss
and
generate
ideas,
but
one
of
them,
I
think,
is
discussing
the
difference
between
an
at-large
member
and
a
member
connected
to
a
zip
code,
also
thinking
about
how
we
want
to
connect
with
neighborhoods
or
advance
our
outreach
to
neighborhoods
and
and
anything
else
that
that
comes
to
mind
with
you
all
under
that
umbrella.
So
I'll
open
up
the
floor.
B
All
right,
greta,
please
go
ahead.
F
Thanks
anna
I'll
just
try
to
get
this
started,
since
this
was
something
I
had
asked
to
be
added.
As
we
already
touched
upon,
we've
got
some
people
representing
zip
codes
and
some
people
who
are
at
large,
and
I
think
that
it
would
help
if
we
hashed
out
exactly
what
that
meant.
F
Even
if
it's
just
in
regards
to
how
we
can
disseminate
information
to
neighborhoods
across
the
city,
I
would,
as
one
suggestion,
I
would
say,
that
people
who
are
assigned
to
a
zip
code
might
get
a
contact
list
with
emails
and
phone
numbers
of
the
neighborhood
leaders
within
that
zip
code
and
then
at
large
members
can
be
on
hand
to
fill
in
any
blanks.
If
there
is
anything
that
we
need
to.
F
You
know
put
an
extra
effort
into
to
communicate
to
neighborhoods
beyond
what
the
city's
communications
department
is
already
doing
open
to
other
ideas,
just
so
that
we
can
have
a
little
bit
more
direction.
I
guess.
B
Wendy,
I
see
your
hand
up.
Please
go.
B
J
Raised
so
sorry,
yes,
thank
you,
I've
unmuted
myself.
I
I
want
to
bring
into
a
picture
of
what
greta
was
talking
about
us,
how
to
get
the
neighborhoods
more
connected
to
what
we're
doing
and
how
we
can
all
blend
together-
and
I
mentioned
this
to
brenda
about
a
possibility
of
a
newsletter
and
she
said
and
who
would
write
this
newsletter.
She
says
I've
got
so
much
on
my
plate
as
it
is.
J
J
So
this
would
be
a
website
under
a
tab
with
a
particular
zip
code.
So
all
of
us
could
actually
add
this
on
as
a
an
area,
and
it
would
include
the
person
who's
in
that
neighborhood
committee,
with
a
photograph
of
their
name
and
their
email
address
and
phone
number.
J
The
goal
is
to
share
information
that
would
will
provide
the
resilience
of
our
neighborhoods
another
one
is
crime
statistics.
It
would
be
great
to
know
where
the
police
are
finding
they're,
having
problems
in
those
neighborhoods
with
crime
and
be
able
to
keep
our
neighbors
abreast
of
what's
going
on
so
they're,
not
dumbfounded
like
what's,
if
there's
a
shooting
or
something
of
that
nature
make
the
available
a
report
about
the
crime
in
a
particular
zip
code.
J
This
information
would
be
provided
by
the
police
department
and
it
would
be
broken
down
by
month
and
of
course,
by
year
the
categories
would
be
color-coded
and
could
range
from
burglary
to
destruction
of
property
to
stolen
vehicles.
I
mean
the
the
police
department
already
has
all
this
information
for
aries
zip
code?
It's
just
that.
We
are
not
using
this,
and
this
was
given
to
me
through.
J
Can
when
we
were
talking
about
the
crime
statistics
as
well
as
our
grow
park,
neighborhood
association,
they
have
the
police
come
and
talk
to
the
group
to
let
them
know
what's
happening
in
there,
but
I'm
just
thinking
how
we
can
help
our
neighborhoods
feel
more
connected,
and
this
was
my
idea,
so
I
pass
it
on.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you,
wendy
greta,.
F
Hi,
this
is
greta
thanks
thanks
wendy
for
those
ideas.
I
think
that
I
think
on
the
simplicity,
app
there
is
a
crime
scene
map
or
a
crime
scene.
There's
a
crime
map
that
lists
out
all
the
calls
that
the
police
get.
But
I
think
that
is
a
great
example
of
how
knack
can
serve
more
as
a
communication
conduit.
A
A
The
police
officers
attend
your
meeting
and
give
you
those
crime
statistics
every
month
or
however
often
your
neighborhood
meets
and
I've
put
out
information
on
avl
alerts.
I
try
to
do
that
about
once
a
quarter
for
people
to
do
it
and
then,
if
you
wanted
to
do
something
by
zip
codes,
I'm
not
opposed
to
that.
What
we
might
could
do.
I
didn't
think
I
would
have
to
send
it
out,
but
maybe
we
could
attach
it
to
something
that
we
do
with
the
current
neighborhood
news.
A
So
it
goes
out
to
everybody.
Also
remember-
and
I
don't
know
if
you
know
this
so
I'm
gonna
say
this-
I
thought
you
know
explain
this.
We
use
neighbor
next
door,
the
police,
fire
and
neighborhood
services
uses
next
door.
So,
as
you
have
information
you
want
to
get
out
to
your
communities,
we
can
do
that.
We
can
target
specific
areas
specific
neighborhoods
or
we
can
send
it
to
the
entire
area,
so
some
of
that
is
being
done.
A
I
think
part
of
it
is
because
we
haven't
had
in-person
meetings
and
also
which
we
changed
up
from
community
resource
officers
to
the
apd
community
engagement.
I
am
going
to
invite
them
to
our
one
of
our
future
meetings
for
you
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
what
they
do,
but
they
are
attending
meetings
and
giving
crime,
statistics
and
stuff
I
just
wanted
to
just
throw
that
out
there.
B
Brenda
that's
helpful.
I
have
some
comments,
but
sharon
you're
next,
so
please
go
ahead.
G
I'm
liking
using
the
resources,
as
brenda
was
saying.
We
already
have
I've
been
pushing
simplicity
for
a
long
time
because
to
explain
the
development
process
and
we
already
have
the
I'm
going
to
call
it
a
crime
map
for
not
knowing
any
other
name
for
it,
and
I
think
that
what,
in
my
estimation,
we
just
need
to
educate
people
to
use
what
we
have
available
already
without
recreating
more
stuff
to
add
to
stuff,
and
I
understand
what
you're
saying
wendy,
but
we've
got
pretty
much
all
of
that
next
door.
G
As
brenda
stated,
simplicity
and
people
just
have
to
know
that
it's
there
for
their
edification
and
if
we
educate
people,
then
they'll
know
it's
like
I've
been
trying
to
educate
people
on
simplicity
for
the
development
side
of
things,
and
I
just
think
we
need
to
give
more
information
out
as
opposed
to
adding
more
but
that's
thoroughly
and
totally.
My
opinion
on
that.
So
thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
pastor,
hart
away.
Please
go
ahead.
I
Well,
I
was
going
to
say
similar
to
what
what's
already
been
spoken,
to
use
the
assets
or
availability
of
what
we
already
have
that's
available
to
us
and
to
people
to.
Let
them
know
that
as
far
as
getting
neighborhoods
connected.
That
was
one
of
the
things
that
we
that's.
I
But
again,
that
was
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
had
the
the
festival
of
neighborhoods
to
really
keep
neighborhoods
connected
and
to
let
them
know
what
was
going
on
as
far
as
the
liaison,
I'm
not
quite
sure
how
that
would
look
and
liaison
at
each
neighborhood,
because
some
neighborhood
associations
they
change
and
rotate
in
administrations
in
in
offices.
I
Some
are
rising,
some
are
falling,
and
so
it
would
be
kind
of
a
quite
complicated,
maybe
try
to
keep
a
liaison
in
each
one
of
those
neighborhoods
just
because
of
the
changes
that
are
that
they
experience
over
the
time.
B
Thank
you.
I
raised
my
hand
as
well,
because
I
have
some
some
thoughts
and
I'm
not
really
sure
I
have
any
sort
of
desired
action
steps,
but
want
to
just
sort
of
voice.
Some
of
the
things
that
I've
been
running
into.
I
know
that
brenda
in
the
past
has
sent
out
a
spreadsheet
with
neighborhood
association
points
of
contact
and
that
we
have
pushed
to
those
points
of
contact,
the
neighborhood
newsletter
and
other
ways
to
get
involved
or
to
stay
updated.
B
But
I
ran
into
the
issue
of
not
really
receiving
any
sort
of
acknowledgement
or
response
or
confirmation
of
receipt
of
reaching
out
to
those
individuals,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
better
way
to
sort
of
identify
official
or
de
facto,
I
would
say
leaders
in
neighborhoods
that
we
can
have
assist
us
in
an
outreach
of
information.
B
I
think
different.
You
know
neighborhoods
are
registered,
but
then
I
think
that
there
are
some
neighborhoods
that
may
be
more
active
on
social
media
than
others.
So
maybe
that's
the
better
way
to
target
them
like
I
said,
I'm
not
really
sure
I
have
any
sort
of
ideas
for
moving
forward,
but
but
that's
sort
of
what
I've
run
into
in
the
past.
So
with
that
said
I'll,
let
I'll
turn
it
over
to
pastor.
I
I
think
that's
always
going
to
be
an
issue
as
far
as
getting
response
back
from
neighborhoods.
You
know
just
because
of
transition
that
they're
that
they
experience
rotating
in
rotating
out.
Normally.
I
So
again,
that's
that's
always
going
to
be
a
an
issue,
and
I
don't
know
if
we
ever
get
a
handle
on
it,
but
we
continue
to
try
and
at
one
time
we
had
the
neighborhoods
listed
listed,
the
the
person
that
was
in
charge
or
the
president
or
that
person
who
was
responsible.
We
got
good
response
on.
Sometimes
you
didn't
get
any
response
at
other
times,
so
it's
just
kind
of
like
a
hit
and
miss,
but
we
can
still
make
it
available
and
try.
But
again
it's
it's
a
it's
a
hit
in
this
game.
B
Thank
you,
pastor.
Hardaway.
I
think
that's
that's
definitely
important
to
keep
in
mind
mike
it's
good
to
see
you
I'm
glad
you
could
join
good
to
see
you
so
go
ahead.
N
Yeah
sorry,
I
was
a
couple
minutes
late.
This
is
mike
wasmer.
I
wanted
to
speak
to
what
pastor
hardaway
was
saying
and
also
something
that's
been
mentioned
before
I
have
a
three-year-old
around
anyway.
It
would
be
nice
if
we
can
get
knack
members
into
pretty
much
every
developer,
neighborhood
meeting,
if
possible,
I
don't
know
how
frequently
those
come
up
or
how
well
we'd
be
able
to
cover,
but
I
would
like
to
see
if
that
would
be
something
that
we
can
do
as
an
outreach
to
neighborhoods.
B
I
also
know
that
there
are
some
neighborhoods
that
do
publish
newsletters
and
I
think
what
would
be
helpful
brenda
is.
I
know,
you've
been
working
on
sort
of
like
an
updated
contact
list
for
neighborhoods,
but
I
think
just
sort
of
once
we
get
that
from
you.
B
Reviving
that
conversation
of
doing
some
outreach
and
maybe
even
knack
folks
sort
of
taking
the
lead
on
you
know,
seeing
which
of
those
neighborhoods
do
have
alternative
means
of
outreach,
whether
it's
social
media
newsletters
that
sort
of
thing
greta,
I
see
your
hand,
is
raised.
F
H
F
Our
purpose
in
our
bylaws
goes
into
what
are
we
supposed
to
be
doing
as
our
zip
codes
or
at-large
roles,
which
also
goes
into
attendance
at
other
boards
and
commissions?
So
if,
if
by
attending
development
meetings,
that
is
how
we
can
support
neighborhoods
by
making
sure
that
we
are
the
conduit
between
the
neighborhoods
and
the
government,
then
I
think
that's
great,
and
you
know,
based
on
the
complaints
that
we
hear
the
most
from
neighborhoods.
A
lot
of
it
is
about
development
and
less
of
it
is
about.
How
can
I
have
a
block
party?
E
B
Greta
mike,
I
saw
your
hand
raised
again
is
that
you're,
good,
okay
brenda,
so
I
think
we're
wrapping
up
the
time
allotted.
We
have
to
discuss
this
and
I
think,
sort
of
next
steps
we'll
just
want
to
sort
of
hammer
out
contact,
information
updates
and,
and
that
sort
of
thing
is
there,
am
I
forgetting
anything
I
guess.
A
You
are
not
I'm
working
on
so
a
couple
of
things:
I'm
gonna
do
we're
gonna
update
the
contact
information
for
what
I
have
please
always
remember.
A
I
have
the
latest
information
that
people
provide
to
me
and
sometimes
they
move
and
eventually
they
get
tired
of
getting
emails
from
me
and
tell
me:
they've,
moved
and
they're,
not
the
contacts,
so
I'm
trying.
What
I
would
like
to
do
is
not
re-registering
neighborhoods
but
they're
doing
an
updated
application,
and
I
also
would
like
neighborhoods
to
start
using
generic
emails.
So,
like
montford
has
a
google
group
and
other
people
have
other
gen,
so
it
goes
to
maybe
five
or
six
people
in
the
neighborhood.
A
A
Once
I
put
information
in,
I
did
a
little
bit
of
that
last
week
and
then
I'll
look
at
some
other
ways
in
which
we
might
be
able
to
reach
out
to
neighborhoods
that
don't
that
doesn't
require
more
work,
more
things
to
be
created,
but
using
what
we
have
that's
part
of
the
the
issue
with
people
is
too
many.
Things
are
coming
at
them,
so
if
you
can
kind
of
reach
them
where
they
are
like
there's
at
least
five
neighborhoods
that
have
a
facebook
page,
I
know
all
of
you
are
not
on
facebook.
A
B
Great,
thank
you
that
does
sort
of
tie
into
our
next
sub
item
under
item
number,
five,
which
is
attendance
at
other
boards
and
commissions,
and
I
know
that
we've
had
discussion
in
the
past
over.
B
We
have
some
knack
liaisons
to
other
committees
and
commissions,
including
the
multimodal
transportation,
commission,
urban
forestry
and
the
technical
review
committee,
and
so
I
want
to
also
just
open
up
a
discussion
on
what
other
boards
and
commissions
would
it
maybe
be
helpful
for
naf
members
to
attend,
or
also
understanding
that
our
time
and
resources
as
individuals
is
limited
as
well
but
figuring
out.
You
know
if
we
have
information
that
we
want
to
share
with
other
communities
and
commissions.
How
are
we
going
to
do
that?
G
Of
course,
I
muted
what
I'm
so
loud.
You
can't
hear
me,
I'm
also
on
the
coalition
of
national
neighborhoods
and
we're
doing
a
lot
of
work
right
now
with
the
city.
We're
working
on
open
space
subcommittee,
we're
working
on
urban
center
subcommittee
and
we're
noise
ordinance
and
we're
working
on
the
new
law
for
this.
G
Coming
about
that's
affecting
single-family
dwellings
for
density
and
we're
working
on
just
about
everything
that
the
state
or
the
city
can
throw
at
us
and
we're
very
limited
on
the
people
that
are
involved
in
can,
and
it
can
ties
in
to
knack
so
we're
in
need
of
more
neighborhoods
to
be
involved
and
can
and
which
ties
into
the
work
that
we
do
here
on
mac,
because
we
should
be
exchanging
information
back
and
forth,
and
it's
kind
of
hard
to
do
when
I'm
not
real
sure.
Yet,
because
I'm
so
new.
G
How
much
information
mac
wants
that's
coming
in
from
camp,
and
it
would
be
great
to
have
more
people
that
are
a
knack
involved
in
can
because
it
affects
all
our
neighborhoods
of
whether
we're
organized
or
not
organized
we've
tackled
charlotte
street
development,
all
kinds
of
things.
So
we're
very
involved.
G
We
just
need
more
people
and
we
need
mac
involved
with
us
as
well,
but
I'm
not
quite
sure
how
that
happens,
how
we
cross-pollinate
so
that's
kind
of
my
two
cents
on
that
and
my
involvement,
the
rest
boards
and
commissions
boy,
there's
a
whole
load
out
there
that
we
can
all
be
involved
in.
So
I
don't
have
soda,
but
I
have
something
else,
so
that's
my
take
on
it.
B
Thank
you,
brenda.
Please
go
ahead.
A
I
mute
unmuted
first,
so
what
I'm
going
to
suggest,
just
like
with
the
neighborhoods
where
each
of
you
represent
in
those
regions.
A
To
be
on
signed
up
to
be
on
their
distribution
list,
we
can
talk
to
rick
freeman
about
adding
the
nac
members
to
the
distribution
list
for
can
because
I've
been
on
that
as
well.
I
get
all
the
information
and
the
updates
the
notice
of
the
meetings.
They
generally
have
a
board
of
directors
meeting,
and
then
they
have
a
general
meeting
in
the
evening,
so
you
would
get
that
directly
from
can,
and
you
would
know,
sharon
wouldn't
have
to
come
back
and
try
to
remember
everything,
but.
B
That'd
be
great
thanks,
brenda.
I
also
this
ties
in
to
the
the
other
boards
and
commissions
that
knack.
B
Be
providing
you
all
with
updates
at
each
of
our
like
after
each
of
our
multimodal
meetings
are
at,
but
what
I
also
want
to
ask
of
you
all:
is
your
ideas
and
and
feedback
and
and
concerns,
or
what
you're
hearing
from
people
in
your
neighborhoods
regarding
multimodal
transportation,
anything
from
sidewalks
to
greenways
to
traffic,
speeding
things
like
that
where
I
can
then
communicate
what
I
hear
from
you
all
to
multimodal
at
the
upcoming
meeting.
F
Hi
again
yeah,
this
is
greta.
I
am
wondering
if
there's
a
way
that
we
can
share
information
from
neighborhoods
with
these
committees,
but
that
doesn't
require
committee
members
to
essentially
join
an
entire
another
committee,
because
you
know
everybody's
busy
and
we
want
to
put
a
lot
of
effort
into
mac.
When
you
mention
multimodal,
I
had
the
thought
that
maybe
you
know
based
on,
I
guess
an
example
would
be
when
we
had
the
issues
forums,
pre
pre-coded.
F
If
something
were
to
come
out
of
a
meeting
like
that,
that
would
pertain
to
another
meeting.
Then
maybe
somebody
from
nak
could
ask
to
speak
at
one
of
those
other
committee
meetings
to
share
neighborhood
concerns,
I'm
wondering
if
that
might
be
a
more
effective
way
to
be
a
conduit
for
neighborhoods
and
other
committees.
F
Just
to
keep
my
finger
on
the
pulse
of
what's
going
on,
can
is
a
great
way
to
do
that
also,
but
I'm
also
wondering,
rather
than
have
everyone
from
mac
attend,
can
meetings.
If
maybe
we
could
just
get
the
highlights
from
the
can
meetings
like
what
is,
if
anything
is
actually
not
just
ongoing,
but
if
something
has
come
up
that
you
know
deserves
an
update.
I
would
love
to
you
know.
I
do
go
to
cam
meetings
now
and
then,
but
I
don't
know
everything
that's
going
on,
so
it
is
kind
of
nice.
F
Like
I
didn't
know
about
the
200
foot
alert
update,
I
don't
know
I'm
starting
to
ramble,
so
I'm
gonna
stop
talking.
But
those
are
my
thoughts
thanks.
E
B
Greta
brenda,
I
see
your
hands
raised.
A
So
you
would
not
be
joining.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
people
are
not
like
freaking
out.
You
would
not
be
asked
to
join
another
committee
because
you
have
to
be
approved
by
city
council,
but
remember
all
these
meetings
are
now
virtual,
so
you
don't
have
to
you.
Don't
have
to
be
at
the
meeting
the
day
that
the
meeting
is
being
held.
You
can
watch
that
at
any
time
either
on
public
input,
youtube
and
I'll.
A
Send
that
information
to
you-
and
I
also
provided
a
list
of
when
all
those
boards
and
commissions
all
of
them
are
not
relevant
to
you
guys,
but
the
ones
that
are
you
can
just
check
their
agendas
out.
You
can
kind
of
know
most
of
you
I'll.
If
you
would,
I
can
ask
if,
if
you're,
if
you're,
not
getting
the
clerk's
office
information
on
that
she
sends
out
on
every
other
friday,
you
need
to
be
a
part
of
that.
You
need
to
get
at
it.
It's
just
a
matter
of
emailing
her.
A
I
can
send
you
that
link
and
also
being
a
part
of,
I
believe
I
know
the
deputy
clerk
sends
out
the
meetings
for
the
week.
So
she
that's
a
reminder
that
could
come
to
you
to
say
these
five
meetings
are
happening
next
week,
so
she
does
it
at
the
end
of
the
week.
So
just
a
suggestion
to
help
out.
B
I
agree:
sharon
I
see
your
hands
raised.
Please
go
ahead.
G
Yes
and
I'm
muted
cairn
has
a
website,
we
have
executive
meetings
that
are
recorded
and
we
have
board
meetings
that
are
recorded
and
we
have
general
meetings
that
are
recorded
and
everything
on
all
our
conversations
about
everything
everywhere
and
what
we're
doing
is
all
posted
on
our
google
drive
and
our
website.
So
you
can
get
on
at
any
time
and
see.
Rick
has
been
a
great
president,
get
us
to
post
everything.
G
So
if
you
want
to
know
what's
going
on
with
the
noise
ordinance
or
the
200
foot
or
our
meetings
anywhere,
it's
all
getting
documented,
you
don't
need
to
attend
any
of
our
meetings
so
just
to
let
everybody
know.
Thank
you.
E
B
Sharon,
joe,
I
see
your
hands
raised
as
well.
H
Yeah,
I
think,
we've
run
into
a
problem
with
a
ten
with
more
than
a
few
of
us
attending
a
canned
meeting
at
the
last
canned
meeting,
there
were
four
nac
members
which
is
less
than
a
quorum,
but
if
we
had
five
that
would
violate
public
meetings,
laws.
B
H
I
I
still
think
it
might
be
an
issue
since
there's
overlap
in
cans,
goals
and
next
goals.
That's
all.
K
B
Thank
you
yeah,
that's
something
to
keep
in
mind
or
or
don't
talk
to
each
other
while
you're
there
mike.
I
see
your
answers.
N
Hi,
this
is
mike
wasserman,
as
I
wanted
to
clarify
or
get
some
clarification
as
far
as
what
the
role
of
a
liaison
is
as
far
as
how
they
contribute
to
another
committee,
their
board.
A
I
think
that
you
were
voted
on
by
multimodal
to
be
included
in
their
process
when
we,
I
think,
when
you're
speaking
about
nat
we're
not
asking
you
to
join
a
whole
nother
board
and
be
a
member
of
that
board.
But
if
this
was
I'd
only
put
this
down,
because
this
was
brought
up.
If
you
are
interested
in
planning
and
zoning
board
of
adjustment,
that
kind
of
stuff
say
wendy
was
just
fired
up
about
historic
resources.
A
She
would
just
kind
of
check
it
out
and
she
would
alert
you
guys
at
a
meeting
if
we
have
an
area
on
our
agenda.
Well,
here's
what's
going
on!
We
may
want
to
take
a
look
at
this.
N
A
This
is
brenda
again,
that's
correct
and
you
actually
don't
have
to
watch
the
whole
meeting.
They
they
they.
You
can
check
out
their
agenda
if
they're
just
doing
a
retreat.
They
should
have
those
topics
that
they're
talking
about.
If
it's
nothing
that
you
feel
like
is
a
concern,
then
you
don't
really
have
to
it's
up
to
you.
B
Thanks
brenda,
what
I'm
also
this
is
anna.
B
What
I'm
also
hearing
is
that,
where
are
it
sounds
like
we're
all
already
doing
some
of
this
to
a
degree
already,
but
we
could
maybe
improve
and
just
our
communication
with
each
other
about
what
we're
doing
and
filling
each
other
in,
and
it
may
not
even
need
to
be
officially
at
knack
meetings,
although
we
could
potentially
make
this
on
the
agenda
to
have
some
sort
of
time
to
do
that,
or
it's
just
you
know,
simply
sending
emails
while
being
mindful
of
you
know,
deliberation
and
that
sort
of
thing,
as
just
updates
as
to
what's
going
on
or
reaching
out
individually.
B
If
you
know
someone
who
neighborhood
or
interest
might
be
affected
by
something
that
you
know
is
happening
so
babette,
let
me
know
that
we
are
needing
to
move
on
to
our
next
item.
So
thank
you
for
taking
time
taking
notes
as
wind
time's
up
bob.
B
Our
next
item
is
neighborhood
hero
next
steps,
and
we
have
a
few
things
related
to
this.
Let
me
pull
up
my
information
here.
Give
me
just
a
second:
we
neck
and
city
council
were
not
able
to
honor
our
2019
winner
due
to
the
coven
19
pandemic.
E
B
And
we
wanted
to
open
it
up
to
the
greater
knack
to
see
if
there
was
a
preference
on
what
month
that
you
all
would
like
that
to
happen
so
sharon.
I
already
see
your
henry.
B
A
Please
yeah
I'll.
Let
you
know
this
so
this
is
brenda
mills,
so
people
complete
an
application
to
nominate
some
wonderful
person
in
their
neighborhood,
like
sharon
summerall
in
east
end,
who
helped
do
all
the
bump
outs
and
the
plantings
and
stuff
that
I
enjoy
so
much
when
I
go
down
mlk,
but
they
will
nominate
someone
from
their
community,
it
could
be
their
community
president.
It
could
be
anyone
in
their
community
and
then
a
committee
deliberates
on
one
person
to
honor
for
the
year.
A
Generally,
that's
at
an
in-person
meeting
for
city
council.
We've
not
had
those
they've
not
been
doing
any
proclamations
or
anything.
So
I
thought
it
would
be
really
great
at
our
june
meeting,
because
most
of
you
don't
notice
you're
going
to
hear
this
in
may,
we
are
going
to
take
it
live.
We
can
go
to
taking
live
comment
in
may,
for
nat
for
in
june,
for
nag
and
to
invite
them
to
come.
We
would
honor
him
kim
kim
would
be
in
attendance.
A
She
would
read
some
of
the
great
points
about
this
person
and
we
would
allow
that
person
to
speak
in
a
few
others
from
the
neighborhood.
Does
that
help
yeah
and
then
we
would
follow
the
same
process.
We
would
normally
follow
for
2020..
We
we
are
a
year
we
always
a
year
behind.
So
it's
the
year
passed.
So
we've
already
got
an
application,
but
we
would
take
applications.
You
would
kind
of
work
on
a
committee
come
up
with
the
timeline,
take
applications,
and
then
we
would
honor
somebody,
hopefully
by
next
spring.
A
It's
usually
february
march
time
frame.
B
Thanks
brenda
mike,
I
see
your
hands
raised.
N
Hi
mike
wasserman,
I
think
that
one
thing
that
we
have
tried
to
pursue
as
far
as
the
subcommittee
when
it
came
to
the
neighborhood
awards
thing
was
to
kind
of
look
at
ways
to
recognize
more
things.
More
often
and
I'd
like
to
see
that
kind
of
work
go
forward.
B
Greta
I
see
your
hands
raised.
Please
go
ahead.
F
Hi
this
is
greta
yeah.
I
think
for
the
first
point,
honoring
the
person,
the
2019
hero
in
an
upcoming
soon
upcoming
meeting,
was
a
great
idea.
I
think
I
suppose
we
don't
have
somebody
chosen
yet
for
2020,
but
if
we
honor
them
in
spring
of
next
year,
then
we'll
be
two
years
behind.
F
But
I,
like
mike's
idea
of
more
frequent,
I
actually
had
the
idea
for
the
neighborhood
hero
back
when
we
started
this,
and
I
preferred
to
do
more
regular,
rather
than
choosing
just
one
person
a
year,
but
it
was
just
beginning,
so
we
were
going
to
see
how
it
went.
F
It
somewhat
depends
on
if
we're
able
to
get
submissions,
but
I
would
like
to
see
more
people
honored
so
that
people
aren't
feeling
neglected
or
forgotten
or
left
out
or
just
more
chances
for
celebration.
But
I
do
think
that
it
would
be
a
good
topic
for
a
sub
or
a
task
force
to
maybe
look
at
this
again
and
see
how
we
might
want
to
update
it
or
change
it
and
how
we
would
want
to
move
forward
with
it.
N
J
Anna,
this
is
wendy
hayner.
I
have
already
submitted
a
hero
for
2021
and
I
can
always
change
that
date
to
2020,
if
that
would
be
of
help
brenda,
so
that
wouldn't
be
a
problem,
so
I
don't
know
if
we
have
someone
scheduled
for
2019,
but
that
way
at
least
it
catches
up
a
little
bit
faster.
N
A
What
we
could
do
is
we
could
honor
19
in
june
and
then
in
the
fall
we
could
honor
a
2020
which
wendy
I
would
think
this
person
would
be
for
2020
anyway,
because
we're
just
in
april
and
if
we
could,
if
you
decide
that,
that's
what
you'd
like
to
do
for
your
time
frame,
I'll
update
all
the
materials
after
any
kind
of
subcommittee
task
force
meets
to
change
anything
or
update,
and
we
could
put
that
out
july
1,
maybe
ask
for
submissions
back
in
september.
A
A
So
until
we
know
that,
then
we
can
plan
on
maybe
honoring
somebody
in
november
december,
and
then
that
would
catch
us
up
and
then
we
could
have
applications
due
to
end
of
january
for
2021..
If
that
helps.
B
I
We
talked
about
recognizing
other
things
or
other
people,
but
there
are
some
discussion
on
if
we
do
that,
does
it
take
away
from
the
significance
of
that
person
for
the
year
and
does
each
neighborhood
recognize
those
persons
that
have
done
and
have
made
a
significant
contributions
to
that
neighborhood.
So
again,
if
if,
if
we're
going
to
recognize
everybody
or
for
various
different
things,
does
it
does
it
reduce
the
the
importance
of
selecting
a
neighborhood
person
or
a
neighborhood
hero
of
that
year,
or
we're
just
selecting
neighborhood
person
that
quarter
of
that
month?
And
so
again?
N
Pastor
hardaway's
mike
wasserman
speaking,
I
do
believe
that
it
it'd
be
great
to
even
recognize
people
historically
at
some
level,
but
it's
like.
I
think
all
this
stuff
needs
to
get
rolled
up
into
how
we
can
roll
that
sort
of
thing
out
on
a
yearly
basis
and
at
what
rate
and
everything.
But
it
all
depends
on
what
a
bit
of
research
and
what
we
can
draw
up
and
so
yeah
a
task
force
would
be
necessary
to
to
continue
that
kind
of
focus.
I
Yeah,
I
agree,
but
if
we
get
into
then
that
may
be
the
only
thing
that
we're
doing
so.
Is
that
going
to
take
away
us
recognizing
someone
every
quarter
or
every
every
you
know
every
quarter
or
whatever
every
six
months?
Is
that
going
to
really
take
away
from
what
our
responsibilities
are,
as
as
a
as
a
nag
board
and
committee.
B
This
is
anna,
and
I
think
that,
like
some
of
you
have
already
mentioned,
forming
a
task
force
for
this
would
be
a
great
way
to
continue
kind
of
working
towards
how
we
may
want
to
modify
parts
of
the
process
or
or
keep
some
of
the
process.
B
As
is,
I
know
that
we
have
struggled
to
receive
applications
in
the
past,
so
it
may
be
a
great
time
as
well,
while
we're
sort
of
getting
back
on
track
post
pandemic
to
look
at
how
we
want
to
rewrite
the
application
or
do
outreach
for
the
application
process,
but
I
would,
I
would
recommend
and
advocate
for
the
formation
of
a
task
force.
So
with
that
said,
unless
there
are,
you
know
any
objections
to
that.
B
If
anyone
has
or
wants
to
be
on
that
task
force,
you
can
see
it
greta.
B
Great
would
say,
you
know:
wendy
go
ahead.
B
Wonderful,
if
we
could
get
another
one
or
two,
that
would
be
great.
B
And
I
think
if
anybody
else
is
interested
sort
of
the
same
thing
as
before,
shoot
me
an
email
and
for
right
now
it
sounds
like
we've
got
wendy
mike
and
greta
and
we'll
go
through
the
same
process
as
brenda
outlined.
As
for
getting
the
task
force
set
up
for.
Oh,
my
gosh,
I'm
drawing
a
blank
already
the
bylaw
revisions.
B
So
thank
you
all
for
volunteering
to
do
that,
and
I
think
that
keeps
us
on
track
time
wise
to
move
on
to
the
next
item,
which
is
the
neighborhood
festival
or
conference
or
issues
form
and.
B
What
we
want
to
you
know
do
is
sort
of
bring
back
suggestions
talk
today,
but
hopefully
bring
back
some
suggestions
to
the
may
meeting.
We've
already
heard
through
conversations
with
you
all
and
feedback
received,
I'm
talking
about
a
national,
nay,
day
celebration
or
doing
sort
of
like
the
the
issues
forums
again.
B
But
what
types
of
issues
would
we
maybe
want
to
focus
on
and
do
we
want
to
try
to
plan
for
a
neighborhood
festival,
but
keeping
in
mind
that,
with
the
current
restrictions
to
meeting
in
person,
that
might
be
something
or
that
would
be
something
we'd
have
to
do
virtually
so
and
just
opening
it
up
to
you
all
and
to
get
your
thoughts
on
that.
So
sharon
go
ahead.
G
Easton
valley
was
going
to
do
their
second,
maybe
it
was
third
neighborhood
festival
which
was
called
off
due
to
covet
and
we're
all
involved
in
that
everybody
that's
involved
in
the
eastern
valley,
so
I
don't
know
how
do
we
get
involved?
Do
we
get
involved,
like
does
nat
get
involved
with
easton
valley,
or
do
we
come
up
with
our
own
collective
neighborhood
festival?
I
mean
how
does
that
work?
I
saw
I
see
how
it
works
with
the
easton
valley,
my
neighborhood.
B
I'm
gonna
let
somebody
else
jump
in
on
this
I
joined
knack.
I
have
not
been
on
knack
and
experienced
a
neighborhood
festival
than
the
festival
of
neighborhoods
event
either
because
it
got
postponed
or
delayed
or
rescheduled
due
to
covid.
So
I
think
that's
what
we're
kind
of
talking
about
whether
or
not
we
want
to
do
that
today.
So
if
anybody
else
has
any
experience
or
wants
to
talk,
jump
in.
I
And
joe
can
also
kind
of
verify,
I
was
part
of
the
first
selection,
the
hero
volunteer,
also
being
part
of
the
first
festival
and
in
the
first
festival
we
had
a
an
opportunity
to
bring
in
all
of
the
registered
or
those
who
came
and
made
notice
that
they
wanted
to
be
part
of
this
festival
where
that
each
community
or
each
neighborhood
was
able
to
showcase
and
tell
the
story
of
what
they
were
doing
in
their
neighborhood,
so
that
every
neighborhood
has
some
ideal
of
what
was
going
on.
What
was
taking
place.
I
They
accident
the
positive
things
that
they
were
going
on
in
their
communities
in
their
neighborhoods,
and
so
we
were
able
to
again
bring
in
those
neighborhoods
into
a.
I
think
we
had
a
unca
where
again
they
were
able
to
kind
of
discuss.
They
had
a
little
panel
or
some
kind
of
board
which
kind
of
talked
about
when
they
came
into
fution
the
neighborhood,
some
historical
information
and
facts,
and
so
again
it
it
allowed
the
neighborhoods
to
kind
of
come
together
and
be
able
to
discuss
and
see
what
the
other
neighborhoods
were
doing
again.
I
We
brought
them
together
and
it's
not
just,
I
know,
I'm
not
sure
all
that
goes
on
in
the
east
end,
but
I
know
it's
a
pretty
big
project
that
they
do
and
it's
quite
well
attended.
But
that's
the
our
point
of
view
was
that
we
were
bringing
the
neighborhoods
in.
We
were
allowing
them
to
share
on
their
history.
Some
significant
impact,
they've
made
and
just
kind
of
really
getting
to
know
what
other
neighborhoods
are
out
there
other
than
theirs.
B
J
Thank
you
so
much.
I
had
put
in
my
comments
and
our
paperwork
about
a
celebration
on
september
28th.
J
If
we
can,
my
idea
for
us
was
to
have
something
down
at
the
city
county
plaza
and
what
we
would
do
is
we
would
have
a
table
set
up
for
each
of
our
zip
codes
and
that
would
entail
all
the
people
where
it
would
be
able
to
go
easily
because
they
would
see
that
zip
code
and
know
where
they
need
to
to
sign
up
and
talk
about
their
neighborhood.
J
Where
do
they
live
in
their
neighborhood
and
then
what
we
could
also
do
is
we
could
have
some
other
vendors
that
are
in
our
280
in
your
zip
code,
giving
out
some
goodies
to
the
neighbors
if
they
come
by
and
visit.
But
this
way
it
will
allow
us
to
connect
with
our
neighbors
also
help
build
new
neighborhoods
that
we're
lacking
in
trying
to
find
contacts
within
those
areas.
J
So
there
is
a
huge
website,
it
is
called
nationaltoday.com
and
it's
a
national
neighborhood
day
why
we
love
our
neighborhoods
and
this
is
a
national
project.
So
it's
not
just
something
that
I've
come
up
with
it.
It
is
on
the
internet
and
you
host
an
event
and
you
have
a
national,
but
it
would
be
great
to
have
all
of
our
county.
J
F
Ahead,
anna
yep,
this
is
greta
wendy.
Your
idea
is
great
and
it's
familiar
to
some
things
that
have
gone
on.
What
is
the
I
can't
remember
the
name,
the
other
national
day
it
used
to
be
like
sit
on
your
front
porch
day
or
whatever
it's
called
someone
else
can
chime
in
on
that,
but
I
was
going
to
speak
to
the
neighborhood
festival
or
conference.
F
I
guess
just
piggyback
on
what
pastor
hardaway
had
mentioned.
I
had
been
to
two
previous
neighborhood
festivals,
and
I
really
did
like
that
when
the
neighborhoods
were
invited
to
have
like
a
stand-up
tri-fold
board
to
share
a
little
bit
about
their
history
and
just
anything
that
they
wanted
national
night
out.
Thank
you,
joe
anything
that
neighborhoods
wanted
to
share
with
each
other,
and
so
you
could
go
around
from
table
to
table
and
learn
about
the
different
neighborhoods.
F
But
at
the
same
time,
at
that
celebration
there
was
also
a
series
of
educational
events.
So
if
you
were
on
an
association
or
looking
to
start
an
association,
you
could
go
to
different
fundraising
idea,
educational
events
or
different,
just
all
sorts
of
different
topics
where
you
can
learn
about
different
ways
to
improve
your
neighborhood
association.
So
I
liked.
K
F
Too,
I
also
liked
what
we
had
in
the
plans
and
I'll
leave
babette
to
speak
more
about
that
about
what
we
had
planned
before
covet
hit
and
ruined
everything
thanks.
C
Well,
we
all,
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
we
already
had
a
committee
formulated
before
the
pandemic
happened
and
we
were
having
a
festival
of
neighborhoods
we
had
gotten
with.
I
can't
remember
her
name
what
pastor
hardaway
does
she's
from
gibbons
estate.
She
lives
in
gibbons
estate
and
she
used
to
be
on
the
board
and.
C
There
you
go
so
we
already
had
it
in
place
and
it
was
gonna
be
at.
We
wanted
it
to
be
where
people
felt
like
it
was
neighborhood.
So
we
were
gonna.
Do
martin
luther
king
junior
park.
We
were
gonna,
have
different
vendors
there
like
a
food
truck,
so
people
could
eat.
We
already
had
it
set
up.
We
were
gonna
have
some
people
that
would
be
there
for
the
kids
that
they
would
have
things
that
they
could
play
and
each
neighborhood
would
have
a
table
and
that
you
could.
C
You
could
go
by
and
see
what
what
they
were
about.
They
were
all
also
going
to
have
pride.
We
would
have
prizes.
It
was
a
whole
thing
that
we
had
together
with
when
the
pandemic
hit.
We
were
unable
to
do
that,
so
I
would
like
for
us
to
get
back
on
track
with
that,
maybe
hopefully
next
year,
because
it
was
exciting,
and
I
think
that
it
was
because
it
was
going
to
be
in
a
location
where,
where
it
was
not
exactly
at
the
city
county
plaza.
C
H
B
Okay,
sorry,
so
not
keeping
er
it's
hard
to
keep
track
anyways.
I
think
that
the
energy
is
there
to
want
to
continue
with
the
festival
of
neighborhoods
tradition,
and
I
think
that
the
the
big
question
which
babette
touched
on
a
little
bit
is:
do
we
want
to
do
something
virtual?
B
This
fall,
which
sounds
like
it
would
be
a
lot
of
work
or
sort
of
continue
with
the
momentum
from
the
efforts
that
were
started
before
the
pandemic,
to
try
to
get
something
an
in-person
event
for
maybe
this
time
next
year
is
what
I'm
hearing.
B
And
okay:
yes,
please
go
ahead,
pastor,
how
hard
away.
I
It'll
enable
us
to
kind
of
beat
again
and
discuss
and
to
share
how
we
want
it
to
look
like
and
again
it's
kind
of,
it's
not
reinventing
the
wheel,
but
it's
going
back
and
saying:
let's
look
at
and
plan
it
for
next
year,
because
we're
really
this
is
already
april.
We've
got
the
retreat.
I
think
we
have.
I
I
What
suggestions
that
they
may
have
to
offer,
but
looking
to
do
something
next
year
around
again
the
time
frame
is
it
comes
up
for
for
discussion,
but
I
would
say
that
next
year
it
gives
us
more
time
to
plan,
allow
the
board
to
kind
of
get
some
stability
as
you
rotate
people
off
rotate
people
on
and
get
better
acquainted,
they'll
bring
on
they'll
bring
different
skill.
Sets
with
them
and
different
ideas
and
suggestions,
you
know
I
find
myself
saying:
oh,
we
did
that
before,
so
it
must
have
been
it
too
long.
B
G
This
is
sharon,
I
agree
with
pastor
hardaway.
Is
this
a
vote?
Are
we
are
we
doing
a
vote?
Are
we
doing
a
hand
raising
kind
of
consensus?
No,
I
don't.
B
Think
we
need
to
this
is
anna.
We
don't
need
to
to
to
do
that
to
get
there.
I
think
we
can
also
even
brenda
chime
in
if
you
want,
but
we
can
kind
of
table
it
today
and
come
back
with
an
official
vote
in
may.
If
we
need
to
do
that.
A
Yeah,
that
would
that
would
be
fine,
and
then
you
could
you
could
vote
on.
Are
you
gonna
keep
the
committee
you
had
before?
Are
you
adding
you
know
whatever
remember
you
are
getting
new
members
in
july,
so
we've
got
to
get
them
oriented,
and
so
it
might
be
that
you
just
decide
to
put
some
ideas
down,
wait
for
the
new
members
and
get
them
on
board
before
you
get
started.
B
Thank
you.
I
that
sounds
like
a
good
path
for
me.
Bobette.
I
want
to
go
ahead
and
acknowledge
you
as.
B
No
worries
mike
see
your
hands
raised.
N
Can
we
boost
the
effort
of
eastern
valley
street
or
another
neighborhood
festival
of
some
sort
for
this
year,
because
I
know
we
had
some
money
attributed,
but
if
we're
aiming
at
next
year,
maybe
maybe
we'll
get
some
experience.
I
know
that
it
sounds
like
a
lot
was
already
in
place
from
what
bobette
said,
but
it
definitely
seems
like
our
own
event
would
be
next
year.
Next
spring
would
be
great.
A
Brenda
just
wanted
to
chime
in
that
east
end
valley
is
not
having
their
event
this
year
right
sharon
it's
next
year
because
we're
full
we're
not
fully
out
of
a
pandemic
yet
and
we're
not.
You
know
we
know
he's
gonna.
We
thinking
the
government's
governor
is
gonna
open
in
june,
but
we
still
don't
know
what
that
means
and
to
plan
a
festival
they
would
have
had
to
start
last
year.
So
I
think
everybody's
on
pause
right
now.
B
Thank
you,
I
think
yeah.
Let's,
let's
continue
the
conversation,
we'll
add
it
to
our
may
agenda
and
then
at
that
time
we
can
formalize
through
voting,
but
also
formalize
a
subcommittee
and
start
the
planning
process.
Hopefully
to
have
something
in
person
in
spring
of
2022.
B
We
we
held
to
not
having
a
four
hour
retreat
sharon,
so
I'm
I
feel
accomplished
for
that.
There
are
a
few
things
I
do
want
to
touch
on.
I
think
we
maybe
overextended
our
our
time
allotment
because
we
do
have
sort
of
like
the
just
times.
I
decide
to
discuss
some
future
agenda
items
but
also
want
to
before
I
get
to
that.
B
I
want
to
stay
on
the
neighborhood
festival
or
issues
forms
idea
or
subtask,
and
so
what
I'm
going
to
recommend
is
for
our
may
meeting
to
come
with
some
ideas
where
we
can
start
the
discussion
again
on
the
the
issues
forums
similar
to
what
we
had
in
2019,
where
we
did
two
one
was
on
traffic
and
one
was
on
the
noise,
ordinance
and
yeah
again
come
with
your
ideas
to
our
main
meeting
and
we
can
decide
how
we
want
to
move
forward
from
there.
B
But
that
way
we
can
move
on
to
this
next
item
here,
which
is
something
that
I
really
wanted
to
do
as
a
new
chair
and
and
tap
into
all
of
the
experience
and
involvement
of
you
all
and
just
solicit
ideas
and
things
that
you'd
like
to
see
not
guaranteeing
that
they'll
necessarily
show
up
on
agendas.
B
But
wanting
to
hear
from
you
and
also
keeping
in
mind
that
we're
at
7pm
so
want
to
put
out
there
whether
you
all
want
to
just
email
me
individually
with
ideas,
or
we
want
to
have
a
quick
group
discussion.
So
with
that
said,
greta
I
see
your
hand
up
so
go
ahead.
F
F
So
this
this
thought
comes
from
my
personal
experience
when
a
developer
cut
down
the
tree
boundary
on
my
neighborhood,
but
essentially
I
feel
like
it
feels
like
neighborhoods,
seem
to
have
no
recourse
when
something
bad
goes
on,
but
developers
have
to
go
through.
You
know
approvals
and
they
have
to
go
through
planning
and
zoning.
Why
can't?
They
also
have
to
submit
something
to
knack
if
they're
going
to
be
altering
the
boundary
of
a
neighborhood,
just
kind
of
something
to
think
about.
F
If
that's
something
that
that
maybe
could
become
more
of
our
purpose
and
then
on
the
complete
opposite
side
of
that
and
into
a
more
fun
topic.
I
was
thinking
that
it
would
be
really
cool
if
mac
had
any
sort
of
budget
where
we
could
purchase
a
trailer
that
could
be
rented
by
neighborhoods
and
it
would
be
stocked
for
block
parties.
F
So
it
could
be
the
kind
that
you
know
the
side
folds
down
and
that
becomes
the
stage
and
it's
got
speakers
and
a
microphone
and
it's
it's
filled
with
games
and
tables
and
chairs,
and
I
feel
like
that
would
just
be
a
fun
way
for
the
city
to
be
physically
sane,
like
we
support
neighborhoods,
and
we
want
you
all
to
connect,
and
this
is
paid
for
by
the
taxpayers
and
the
neighborhoods
can
rent
it
out.
You
know
based
on
an
application
process.
Those
are
just
two
ideas
that
I
had
that.
B
I
passed
her
heart
away.
I
see
and
acknowledge
your
question
on.
Can
we
honor
our
designated
time
to
finish
and
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
say?
Yes,
let's?
Let's
do
that,
so
that
we
can
call
it
right
around
7
pm
and
would
just
continue
to
encourage
you
all
to
please
email
me
with
ideas
or
feedback
or
concerns
that
come
up,
and
I
will
try
to
serve
as
a
good
resource
and
work
with
brenda
to
do
that
for
everybody
and
email.
B
B
We
can
come
back
to
the
the
emailed
list
or
the
list
of
ideas
that
I
hopefully
get
from
from
many
of
you,
and
we
can
also
talk
about
drafting
the
fiscal
year,
2022
work
plan
and
joe's
document
that
he
sent
out
and
how
we
may
want
to
modify
anything
so
with
that
said,
let
me
find
my
script
because
I
am
not
very
good
at
being
off
script
so
that
we
can
adjourn
the
meeting.
B
All
right,
so
our
next
regular
meeting
is
scheduled
for
monday
may
24th
2021
at
5
pm,
and
it
remains
a
remote
meeting
and
I
will
now
adjourn
the
meeting
unless
we
have
any
objections,
so
I
don't
see
any
hand
hands
raised
so
adjourned.
Thank
you
all
very
much
for
coming
tonight.