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A
C
Okay,
the
meeting
will
now
come
to
order.
Welcome
to
the
april
26
2021
city
of
asheville
board
of
adjustments
meeting,
my
name
is
pratik
bhakta
and
I'm
chair
of
the
board.
The
board
of
adjustments
is
a
quasi-judicial
body
that
is
governed
by
the
north
carolina
general
statutes
and
the
city's
unified
development
ordinance.
C
We
are
authorized
to
hear
requests
for
variances
from
the
city's
unified
development.
Ordinance
appeals
from
final
determinations
made
by
city
officials,
charged
with
enforcement
of
the
city's
unified
development,
ordinance
request
for
reasonable
accommodations
and
other
requests,
as
may
be
provided
in
the
city's
ordinances.
C
All
committee
members
and
staff
are
participating
virtually.
We
appreciate
your
patience
as
we
work
through
committee
meetings.
A
bit
differently.
We
are
streaming
live
on
our
virtual
engagement
hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
hub
link
on
the
front
page
of
the
city
website,
and
also
linked
on
the
board
of
adjustments
page.
C
Welcome
now
for
the
roll
call,
I
will
go
through
and
introduce
all
the
committee
members
who
are
participating
virtually
please
make
sure
to
mute
your
microphone
if
you're,
not
speaking
when
you
have
a
question
or
would
like
to
speak
on
your
microphone,
please
remember
to
meet
your
phone
after
you
are
done
speaking
community
members,
as
I
call
your
name,
please
say
a
quick
hello
carter,
webb
hello,
hi
bill
newman.
D
C
Also
with
us
today
I
see
she
just
joined
is
our
assistant.
I'm
sorry,
excuse
me
also
with
us
today
is
our
assistant
city
attorney
eric
edgarton
and
alternate
board
members
tina
white,
who
will
who
will
be
in
attendance
as
a
backup
in
case
any
of
our
currently
seated
board
members
have
any
technical
troubles.
C
To
help
our
audience
follow
along
I'll
state,
each
section
of
the
agenda
out
loud
and
do
a
vocal
roll
call
for
each
vote.
Additionally,
I
ask
that
committee
members
raise
their
hand
to
speak
and
I
will
call
upon
them
if
you
need
to
interrupt
just
state
state
the
reasoning,
the
agenda
item.
The
first
agenda
item
is
the
adoption
of
the
minutes.
G
C
And
yes,
for
me,
that's
unanimous
motion
passes
minutes
have
been
adopted.
We
now
begin
the
evidentiary
hearings
of
the
cases
listed
on
the
agenda
items
in
hearing
cases
the
board
conducts
a
quasi-judicial
evidentiary
hearing.
That
means
it
is
like
a
court
hearing.
State
law
sets
specific
procedures
and
rules
concerning
how
how
this
board
must
make
its
decisions.
C
This
board's
decisions
are
constrained
by
the
standards
in
the
city's
city's
ordinance
and
the
facts
presented
at
the
hearing
the
board
hears
and
considers
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
applies
the
standard
set
forth
in
state
law
and
the
city's
ordinance.
The
board
must
base
its
decisions
about
competent,
material
and
substantial
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing.
If
you
will
be
speaking
as
a
witness,
please
focus
on
the
facts
and
standards,
not
personal
preference
or
opinions.
C
Participation
is
limited.
This
meeting
is
open
to
the
public.
Everyone
is
welcome.
To
watch
parties
have
rights
to
participate
fully,
parties
may
present
evidence
call
witnesses
and
make
legal
arguments.
Witnesses
may
testify,
as
the
facts
to
which
they
are
competent,
to
testify
so
long
as
these
facts
relate
to
the
legal
standards.
C
In
addition,
lay
or
non-expert
witnesses.
Witness
testimony
is
limited
to
facts,
not
opinions
for
certain
topics.
This
board
needs
to
hear
opinion
testimony
from
expert
witnesses.
These
topics
include
projections
about
impacts
on
property
values
and
projections
about
impacts
on
traffic
safety,
for
variance
requests.
C
A
four-fifths
vote
of
the
board
is
required
to
grant
the
variance
for
all
other
hearings
and
matters,
including
adoption
of
the
minutes.
The
decisions
will
be
made
by
simple
majority.
Vote
of
the
board.
Witnesses
must
swear
or
affirm
their
testimony.
At
this
time
we
will
be
administering
the
oath
for
all
individuals
who
intend
to
provide
witness
testimony.
C
A
Yeah
so
the
first
case
chair
has
been
withdrawn
from
consideration,
and
so
that
was
removed
late
on
thursday,
since
we
already
had
advertised
we've
left
the
sign
out
and
also
you
know,
we've
received
some
calls,
but
just
let
everybody
know
that
it
has
been
withdrawn
from
consideration
and
will
not
be
coming
back
to
this
board.
A
C
Okay,
then
we
have
the
second
agenda:
the
petitioner
sharon
sumrall
on
behalf
of
property
owner
asheville
marketplace,
holdings
llc
and
zh.
Astra
llc
is
requesting
a
variance
of
the
udo
in
section
7-13-4
c
b-1-b
development
and
joint
identification
science
area
of
the
u-d-o
and
the
petitioner
is
seeking
to
increase
the
maximum
freestanding
sign
area
for
the
property
located
at
4,
south
town,
road.
A
A
I
want
to
present
my
screen
for
everyone,
so
give
me
just
one
minute
to
do
that
eric
do
we
need
to
take
any
vote
on
the
first
case
at
all
being
withdrawn,
or
is
that
just
enough
that
it's
been
withdrawn?
Is
that
correct.
E
A
A
This
is
for
south
tunnel
road
and,
and
the
request
is
the
the
final
sign
standard
I
should
say
so.
The
sign
is
a
proposed
231
square
foot
free,
standing
sign.
The
property
is
on
regional
business.
It's
a
multi-tenant
development.
A
So,
just
to
get
more,
there
is
the
zoning
map.
It
is
sort
of
kind
of
like
a
let
light
pink,
but,
as
you
see
the
the
property
in
the
center
with
the
highlight
regional
business,
the
asheville
market,
we
have
the
peak
center
to
the
northwest,
which
is
also
regional
business
and
to
the
left
is
the
asheville
mall,
also
regional
business,
and
then
I-240
here
on
the
east
is
not
zone.
We
don't
zone
the
right-of-ways
of
interstate.
A
We
have
a
additional
road
frontage,
as
I
mentioned
in
the
staff
report,
along
kind
of
this
tunnel
road
ramp,
it's
kind
of
like
where
tunnel
road
actually
splits
to
intersect
with
the
i240
interchange,
ramps.
H
A
A
street
view
of
the
existing
freestanding
sign:
there's
only
one
development
sign
already
on
site,
and-
and
I
don't
want
to
do
the
applicant's
presentation,
but
my
understanding
is
this
area
on
the
lower
end,
the
basically
the
foundation
or
base
of
the
sign-
that's
not
actually
got
any
copy
area
will
be
the
area
of
expansion,
so
they're,
not
actually
adding
any
width
or
height
to
the
sign.
They're
just
kind
of
filling
in
the
existing
white
brick
area
and
miss
sumrall
can
clarify
that
for
us,
if
I'm
incorrect.
A
A
And
so
the
shopping
center
was
redeveloped
back
in
2013
as
all
of
y'all
that
have
been
here
here.
A
while
understand
that
was
the
former
kmart
shopping
center
that
was
mostly
removed
or
demolished
where
whole
foods
is
at
and
then
the
new
freestanding
sign
was
permitted
back
in
2014
for
approximately
155.6
square
feet.
A
During
our
analysis
with
miss
summerall,
it
seems
that
we
kind
of
discovered
the
signs
a
little
bit
larger
than
that,
but
it's
still
in
compliance.
So
we're
not
sure
if
it
was
a
measurement
or
in
a
field
error,
but
it's
fine.
The
sign
is
compliant
with
current
standards.
A
A
Is
there
any
questions
of
the
board
before
I
allow.
C
A
A
The
second
road
frontage
is
this
area
to
the
north,
very
top
center
of
the
screen
kind
of
northward
guitar
center.
There's
a
service
road.
You
see
new
hall,
creek
lane
comes
along
the
north
side
of
the
peaks
yeah
yeah,
okay,
yeah
state
maintained
road,
the
the
right
of
way
or
the
maintenance
in
somewhere
right
at
the
property
close
to
the
property
boundary,
but
this
is
state
d.o.t
right
of
way.
So
that's
the
second
frontage.
A
F
A
Well,
I
mean
it's,
it
says
street
front,
so
we've
kind
of
interpreted
it
to
be
like
surface
street,
where
you
could
obtain
a
driveway.
I
we
haven't
really
had
any
requests
for
like
interstate
facing
signage,
because
typically
there's
either
no
doors
on
that
side
of
a
building
for
the
individual
tenant
we've
not
had
any.
Like
honestly,
I
haven't
had
a
development
signage
this
one
they
have
a
clearly
have
a
second
road
furnished
to
the
north,
and
that
would
be
the
maximum
number
at
all.
A
So
if
you
had
four
frontages
that
were
at
street
level,
that
could
get
a
driveway
on
all
four
sides.
We
would
only
allow
two
development
signs
period.
A
One
you
just
get
to
pick
the
two
frontages
you
want,
so
even
if
we
did
allow
it
on
i240,
we
still
would
only
allow
a
second
sign,
not
a
third
development
sign.
C
So,
on
the
second
sign
they're
allowed
to
200
square
feet
on
that
sign
as
well.
A
A
That
might
be
a
another
question
there,
but
it
so
it's
clear
that
I
said:
we've
had
past
practice
that
100
square
foot
would
certainly
be
allowed.
I
I
could
say
that
at
least
while
at
least
100.
C
Okay,
do
you
have
any
other
further
questions
for
staff.
C
No
okay:
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
ask
the
petitioner
present.
I
I
It
I've
had
several
sign
companies
out
there
and
everybody
ricky
alluded
to
it's
under
the
200
square
foot.
That
is
required.
That's
existing
now,
but
I
didn't
know
by
how
much
and
I
didn't
authorize
a
a
scissor
lift
and
a
guy
to
go
out
a
woman
to
go
out
and
measure
it.
So
I
just
went
ahead
and
called
it
200
square
feet,
although
it's
a
little
under
according
to
both
sign
companies,
but
how
much
a
little
under
I
don't
know.
I
So
I
just
went
ahead
and
called
it
as
the
maximum
and
the
reason
that
the
owners
of
the
property
would
not
like
to
put
another
sign
in
if
at
all
possible,
is
that
where
it's
located
on
that
service
road
cannot
be
viewed
by
anybody
other
than
the
people
egressing
or
ingressing
from
that
road,
and
mostly
that's
going
to
the
peaks
and
when
chick-fil-a
goes
up
there
it'll
be
them,
but
it
doesn't
afford
the
tenants.
I
The
advertisement
that's
on
south
tunnel,
which
we're
all
aware
of
so
I
figured
that
the
least
obtrusive
way
of
adding
for
our
new
tenants,
not
all
of
them,
but
for
five
more
signage,
is
to
remove
the
existing
grasses
and
and
add
signage
to
the
bottom,
and
I
figured
that
was
the
least
obtrusive
least
impactful
and
would
require
somewhere
between,
I
don't
know,
25
to
31
additional
square
feet,
so
that
seemed
to
be
my
win-win
solution
to
a
no-win
situation
of
tenants
wanting
advertising,
which
I'm
sure
all
of
you
in
this
present
state
of
our
economy,
can
understand
what
I'm
being
faced
with
in
that
respect.
I
I
I
And
I
thought
I
was
expecting
that's
how
I
was
originally
gonna
go,
but
when
I
got
the
bill
for
sixty-two
thousand
dollars
that
I've,
I
found
that
and
today's
covet
and
the
fact
that
we've
got
eight
empty
tenants
there
right
now
with
several
looking
to
be
a
bit
of
a
high
price
tag
for
even
the
owners
of
this
property.
I
There
were
no
tenants
there,
these
have
been
empty
for
a
while,
and
what
they've
done
is
they've
done
some
ray
retrofitting
to
make
them
larger
to
fit
the
curve
that
was
needed
for
the
current
tenants,
coveted
hit.
It
was
a
while
to
fill
this
up
and
the
new
tenants
have
got
more
tenants
in,
and
then
they
had
to
make
some
interior
changes
to
some
of
the
units
to
allow
for
the
potential
new
clients
the
one
tenants
who
wanted
to
move
in.
F
I
Yes,
basically,
yes,
and
no,
it
was
from
the
previous
owners
of
the
new
owners.
There's
been,
we've
had
a
couple
tenants
leave,
but
they
were
smaller
and
they
didn't
and
they
didn't
have
signage.
I
C
So
much
summer,
all
what
happens
if
you
know
this
board
grants
the
variance
and
then
you
subdivide
another
space
and
need
to
add
additional
signage.
I
I've
already
told
everybody:
this
is
it.
I
said
if
by
some
miracle,
this
goes
through,
I
said:
that's
it
there's
no
more
discussion
on
signage.
You
cannot
offer
signage
to
anybody
new
that
comes
in
under
any
circumstances,
so
I
pretty
well
and
they
are
located
in
raleigh
and
they're
understanding
the
process
better.
So.
E
B
So,
mrs
sumrall,
unlike
other
forms
of
relief
that
we
have
in
our
code,
whether
it's
alternative
compliance
or
conditional
zoning,
really
hemmed
in
to
answering
the
specific
question
of
hardship
and
and
based
on
your
answer
from
paul.
I'm
gonna
botch
your
last
name
and
I
apologize.
B
Thank
you.
You've
referenced
cost,
which
we
really
can't
consider
in
terms
of
hardship,
and
you
have
mentioned
that
you
could
reconfigure
the
different
businesses
onto
the
existing
sign
square
footage.
So
I
would
be
looking
at
from
the
applicant
like
why
couldn't
you
put
a
sign
elsewhere
on
site?
And
it
sounds
to
me
that
it's
a
preference
not
a
actual
physical
hardship
to
your
application.
I
Yeah,
I
would
totally
agree
with
that,
but
again
in
the
retail
business
and
hardship
and
cost
I'm
looking
at
as
a
contractor.
My
whole
life.
What
I'm
looking
at
is
the
cost
of
small
businesses
doing
business
the
amount
of
advertising
they're
wanting
from
tunnel
road,
the
whole
aspect
of
retail,
taking
a
hit,
and
yes,
you're
completely
correct
100,
but
on
the
business
end
of
the
small
businesses
that
are
going
in
that
we're
trying
to
get
the
local
businesses
like
we've
got
a
new
running
store
going
in
now.
I
That
is
a
local
and
he
would
like
a
signage
on
that
and
to
identify
that
and
he's
a
local
business
we're
trying
to
pull
in
local
businesses
and
there's
a
cost
associated
with
that,
I'm
looking
at
it
more
as
opposed
to
the
ordinance
end
of
it
as
the
micro
side
of
it
as
a
business,
small
business
owner
trying
to
attract
businesses
into
a
space
that
is
struggling
with
one
covet
and
just
retail
shopping
centers
struggling
per
se.
So
that's
my
honest
response
to
that.
I
Yes,
you
are
correct,
but
that's
the
my
the
other
end
of
it
is
trying
to
get
the
local
businesses
as
much
advertising
as
they
can
get,
and
I
understood
that
when
I
filled
this
out,
the
the
discrepancies
and
I've
been
involved
in
in
city
stuff
long
enough
to
know
what
I'm
asking
and
figured
that
what
I'm
asking
is
really
not
that
intrusive
granted.
It
is
over
and
above
what
is
required
now.
I
understand
that.
B
Well,
thank
you
for
your
frankness
and
and
and
I
would
just
say
that,
just
based
on
your
replies,
it
I'm
having
a
hard
time
coming
up
with
the
unnecessary
hardship
for
number
one
in
our
standards,
for
granting
a
variance.
B
I
was
just
trying
to
suss
out
a
little
bit
from
you,
so
I'll
leave
it
to
others
to
ask
additional
questions.
A
Board,
may
I
may
I
interject
this
real
quickly?
It's
okay,
I
know
miss
sumrall
me
and
you
had
spoke
prior
then,
and
you
talked
about
one
a
couple
things
I
just
wanted
sure
since
we
had
talked
previously
that
maybe
there
was
some
like
leases
that
specified
like
some
sizes
that
you
had
kind
of
mentioned
to
me.
I
think
and.
I
A
We
had
talked
about
one
that
and
eric
you
can
correct
me
as
well.
I
think
the
board
could
condition
the
variance
like
we
had
one
of
the
time
where
that
potentially
they
could
give
up
or
not
ever
choose.
The
second
freestanding
sign
option
along
tunnel
road
if
they
were
to
give
that
up,
I
mean
you
had
spoke
about
that
miss
sumrall
and
then
maybe
we
also
talked
about
the
size
of
the
individual
panels
and
and
then
the
traffic
and
visibility.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
because
we
had
had
those
conversations.
A
Yes
all
right,
I
just
didn't
want
us
to
prior
as
our
pre-application.
I
just
didn't
want
to
miss
that
information.
You
provided
to
me
as
part
of
the
pre-application
meeting
that
you
not
also
share
that
with
the
board
as
well.
So
I
that
I
don't
want
to
make
your
application
for
you
or
present
it,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
we
didn't
forget.
A
I
Yeah,
thank
you,
for
I
mean
I've
been
dealing
with
this
for
two
years
now,
and
I've
talked
with
so
many
sign
companies
and
you
graciously
came
out.
I
don't
know
dead
a
winner
to
help
me
figure
out,
because
I
am
constrained
on
leases.
I
can't
change
well.
I
can't
change
any
of
the
larger
signs
up
there
due
to
their
lease
requirements.
I
So
there's
a
lot
of
constraints
with
this,
let
alone
the
the
ordinance
issues.
Along
with
this.
It's
been
problematic
all
the
way
around
trying
to
make
this
work.
I
wish
the
previous
owners
had
done
more
research
on
move
this
over
applied
for
the
application
properly.
B
Thank
you,
one
of
the
things
I
did
want
to
mention,
so
this
shopping
center
does
have
a
name.
It
looks
like
it's
called
asheville
market
and,
and
just
like
y'all
alluded
to
the
development
up
to
the
north,
which
is
called
the
peaks.
That's
why
develop?
B
B
But
I
I
I've
dealt
with
this
on
a
couple
of
other
projects,
particularly
I'm
thinking
of
gerber,
village
and
and
trying
to
flip
the
script
for
the
tenants,
as
well
as
the
developer,
to
really
market
and
promote
asheville
market
per
se
versus
you
need
to
have
your
name
on
a
sign.
I
just
put
that
out
there
just
as
a
point
of
conversation.
B
I
To
the
left,
the
other
side
is
a
line
of
sight
issue
and
I've
gotten
a
verbal
okay
from
the
fire
department
that
it's
okay.
For
me
to
do
that
we
still
haven't.
If
this
goes
through,
we
haven't
figured
out
whether
I
have
to
get
a
permit
for
the
address
to
the
left,
but
having
talked
with
the
fire
department
on
it,
they're,
okay
with
it,
I
just
have
to
find
out.
If
this
goes
through
then
do
I
need
to
go,
get
a
assigned
permit
for
the
424.
I
I
mean
the
fourth
south
tunnel
to
see
if
that's,
if
that
needs
a
permit
as
well,
but
the
fire
department.
When
I
had
him
out
about
three
weeks
ago,
I
asked
him
and
he
said
he
doesn't
see
a
problem
with
it.
We
just
can't
do
it
to
the
right,
because
we
have
a
line-of-sight
problem,
but
if
I
take
all
the
grasses
down,
then
there's
perfect
view
all
the
way
across
right
now
I've
got
ornamental
grasses
parked
in
there
planted
in
there.
That
will
obscure
just
about
everything
so.
I
I
am
a
contractor
with
this
company.
I
was
a
contractor
for
the
previous
company,
but
yes,
this
was
done
in
2014
and
then
sapolsky
real
estate
purchased
it
in
march
2018..
So.
C
And
so
when,
when
these
new
spaces
were
created,
I
assumed
that
there
were
bigger
spaces
and
the
signs
could
handle
that
at
that
time,
because
the
spaces
were
enough,
but
because
new
spaces
were
created,
there's
a
need
for
those
new
tenant
spaces,
meaning
the
amount
of
space
that
that
a
tenant
needed
was
not
the
same
as
the
previous
tenants
that
occupied
it.
C
So,
in
other
words
out
of
let's
say
just
example:
ten
thousand
square
feet
now
you
have
two
part,
two
lease
spaces
of
five
thousand
each,
which
means
now
you
have
an
additional
tenant
right,
right,
right
and
so
those
those,
I
don't
think,
are
our
hardships
created.
Naturally,
those
were
hardships,
I
think,
created
by
the
the
company
that
owns
it
to
create
and
sell
that
that
tenant
space.
I
And
also
not
all
we
didn't
plan
on
all
tenants
having
space,
so
that
was
also
we
didn't
expect
and
we
still
don't
expect
all
tenants
to
have
space.
All
tenants
will
not
have
space,
and
so
it's
changing
all
the
time
like
there
was
more.
There
may
be
more
now
than
there
was,
but
right
now
we're
looking
at
making
removing
two
and
making
one
larger
one
for
a
possible
tenant.
So
it
changes
all
the
time
out.
I
There
we've
got
a
hollywood
feed,
that's
looking
at
coming
out
there
and
they'll
take
up
two
spaces.
So
it's
it's
a
constantly
moving
feast.
What
we're
just
trying
to
do
is
create
five
more
spaces.
If
we
can
to
allow
five
more
company,
which
will
not
a
tenants
which
will
not
encompass
a
total
amount,
it's
not
going
to
be
available
to
everybody
still.
C
Understandable
is
there
a
space
where
you
can
go
on
the
south
part
of
the
where
the
intersection
is
and
put
a
signage
there.
I
C
Yeah,
what
I
was
referring
to
is
where's
the
existing
signage.
Is
it
right
there
next
to
that
building
in
the
front.
I
C
Okay
and
then
what
about
the
southern
portion
all
the
way
to
the
southern
intersection
right
as
you?
I
guess,
that's
it
interesting.
The
asheville
mall.
I
No,
that
is
the
bank
and
then
yeah,
and
then
our
vote
at
that
corner,
there's
a
huge
all.
Our
utilities
are
all
located
in
that
corner
with
a
huge
pole,
and
I
think
that's
going
to
be
really
problematic
only
for
the
utility
trenches.
I
was
there
when
they,
they
dropped
all
everything
in
there,
and
that
is
a
mess
as
far
as
utility
goes
I'd,
be
afraid
to
get
anywhere
near
that
corner.
C
C
You
know
unique
to
the
property
when
you
know
if
the
space,
if
the
leasing
spaces
were
not
downsized,
you
we
wouldn't
be
having
this
conversation.
So
it's
you
know
it
was.
It
is
it's
it's
created
by
creating
more
tenants,
not
necessarily
by
the
square
footage
of
each
leasable
space.
That
makes
sense.
I
Yeah,
but
I
don't
know
when
you
say
downsize,
because
we've
had
empty
spaces
in
there
for
well.
I've
been
there
eight
years,
we've
had
empty
spaces
in
there
eight
years,
so
trek
is
just
moving
in
and
we
didn't
have
a
space
for
treks.
So
if
you
can
see
that
I've
got
a
space
there
for
trek,
everybody's
excited
about
trek
moving
in
there
and
they're
excited
about
having
a
spot
on
the
on
tunnel
road
so
that
space
was
empty
for
eight
years
yeah.
So,
like
I
said
I
could
count
and
tell
you.
I
Yes,
we've
had
more
spaces
and
no,
we
have
not
more
than
more
spaces
because
it's
been
a
moveable
feast,
I'm
just
letting
you
know
that
it's
changed
from
here.
It's
reduced,
it's
increased
over
the
eight
years.
I've
been
there
and
basically,
what
we're
trying
to
do.
Is
it
a
hardship?
I
I
I
don't
know
what
constitutes
a
hardship
on
a
on
a
pylon
sign
and
that's
beyond
my
process
to
know
what
a
hardship
on
a
pylon
sign
edition
would
be.
I
just
know
that
for
the
potential
tenants
that
want
to
move
in
there,
it's
a
source
of
part
of
them
doing
business
and
me
trying
to
accommodate
them,
and
is
that
a
hardship
well
in
my
world
no
but
in
their
world?
I
Yes,
so
it's
semantics,
I
think,
but
that's
your
decision,
a
mind
asked
and
yours
to
agree
or
not
to
agree
on
it.
I
find
I'm
in
a
very
odd
position
here
asking
for
this.
G
Chair
just
so
just
so
that
I
understand
what
exactly
we're
doing
the
the
bottom
part
of
the
sign
currently
exists.
Right
now
is
that
is
that
correct,
yes,
and
all
that
summer,
all's
asking
I
say:
oh
I
don't
mean
it
that
way,
she's
asking
for
to
happen.
I
can
go
back
to
the
previous
slide
ricky
if
she,
what
she's
asking
to
happen
is
for
the
bottom
part
to
look
like
that.
I
That's
correct,
and
in
fact
I
don't
have
to
do
anything
the
wiring
is
there.
All
I
have
to
do
is
put
the
panels
up.
So
it's
a
matter
of
just
installing
panels
to
something
that's
already
there.
I
Okay,
now
originally
they
wanted
an
electronic
sign
that
rotated
and
I
just
they
brought
in
a
company
from
san
francisco
to
make
that
work.
Most
of
the
tenants
did
not
want
that.
I
did
not
want
that.
I
just
don't
think
it
goes
with
my
precept
of
what
I
think
asheville
should
look
like
with
a
bunch
of
electronic
signs,
so
they
capitulated
with
me,
and
I
said,
let
me
see
what
I
can
do,
because
I
could
not.
G
When
we're
talking
about
the
current
200
square
feet,
that's
on
there,
that's
the
the
the
go
back
to
the
previous
page,
ricky,
sorry
to
keep
making
go
back
and
forth.
That's
that
the
the
language
that's
on
there,
everything,
but
the
bottom
piece
is
200
square
feet
of
signage.
Is
that
the
way
I
understand
it.
I
Probably
about
the
sign
woman
says:
170,
oh
eight,
I
think,
but
because
I
didn't
authorize
a
a
bucket,
a
scissor
lift
and
a
guy
out
there.
I
should
have
probably
done
that,
seeing
how
12
square
feet
could
have
made
a
big
difference
in
this
now
that
I'm
looking
in
retrospect,
but
I
did
not
so
because
I
did
not
present
an
exact
amount
of
square
footage
knowing
it's
under.
I
A
We
have
not
measured
it,
I
mean
we
done
a
final
inspection
back
when
the
sign
went
up
and
obviously
we
we
have
a
poll
to
measure,
but
it
seemed
like
it
was.
Certainly
I
didn't
actually
do
the
file
station,
so
I
I
didn't
go
out
there.
So
I'm
hoping
we
had
a
final
inspection.
It
was
155.6
with
what
the
permit
was
approved,
for
I
actually
done
the
permit
when
I
was
a
drs
back
in
2014
and
I've
done
the
whole
signs.
So
the.
C
Reason
I
say
this:
is
you
know
if
if,
for
example,
it
is,
let's
say,
160
feet
and
they're
asking
for
additional
31
for
the
new
area
down
below
yeah,
it
wouldn't
need
a
a
variance
because
it
would
still
be
under
200
square
feet.
Correct.
A
So
I
we
had
that
discrepancy
that
the
sign
contractor
come
back
with
178.,
so
in
an
abundance
of
caution.
We
once
we
had
this
conflicting
information,
we
were
afraid
to
proceed
forward
with
that,
based
on
just
the
solely
the
permit.
It's
not
holy.
It
doesn't
take
much
a
couple
inches
to
inflate
a
square
footage
quickly,
so
yeah.
C
You're
correct
so
I
mean
I
I'd,
be
I'd,
be
more
apt
to
say
you
know
if
it's
somewhere
around
200
square
feet
with
the
new
signage
it
should
be.
You
know
that
to
me
wouldn't
be
too
much
of
a
you
know,
stretch
for
me
to
say
that,
and
ms
sumrall
would
wouldn't
need
to
come
before
us
if,
if
it
could
be
done
by
staff
to
say
it's
well
within
200
feet,.
A
Well,
I
think
I
think
it's
up
to
the
board's
preference,
if
you,
if
you
and
the
applicant,
would
rather
continue
this
hearing
to
allow
staff
to
go
out
and
try
to
get
our
poll
and
try
to
measure
that,
or
and
or
if
miss
sumrall
would
like
to
reach
back
out
to
the
signed
company
to
get
a
scissor
lift.
I
mean
I
could
meet
the
sign
company
out
there
if
it's
something
between
the
meetings.
A
I
I'm
agreeable
to
that.
The
board's
pleasure
I
mean
that's,
that's
between
you,
the
board
and
the
applicant
staff
will
do
what
we
need
to
do
to
make
you
get.
C
I
I
I
agree
frankly,
I
didn't
my
thinking
didn't
see
that
there
could
be
any
problem
with
just
adding
to
the
base
that
was
already
there.
I
should
have
known
better.
That
was
way
too
simple.
So
I'm
thinking
that
I,
I
should
probably
call
the
sign
company
out
and
have
a
measure,
because
my
only
other
choice
is,
if
you
vote
no
on
this,
then
I
have
to.
I
don't
know
if
I've
got
an
appeal
process
and
I
don't
really
want
to
do
the
peel
process
with
all
the
other
work.
I
do.
I
I
just
can't
imagine
chasing
an
appeal
process
for
for
this
down
so
and
I
wouldn't
even
know
what
that
looks
like
if
there's
an
appeal
on
the
b
of
a
I
don't
know
ricky,
do
you
think
I'm
better
bringing
in
my
sign
company
out
and
having
them
measure
it?
I
think
that's.
E
Yes,
mr
wilsinski,
the
appeal
process
from
an
order
of
the
board
of
adjustment
would
go
directly
to
superior
court,
so
that
would
require
the
initiating
of
a
superior
court
lawsuit.
So
it's
a
it's
a,
not
it's
a
pretty.
It's
a
pretty
hefty
lift.
It's
not
a
it's,
not
a
simple
intra-city
matter.
It
has
to
go
to
the
court.
E
I
Thank
you
eric
that
answers
that
question.
So
that
was
simple
enough.
So
what
I'll
do
then
is?
I
don't
know
if
I
put
this
on
hold
and
come
back
again
and
bring
the
company
out
and
measure
it
and
then
come
back
again,
I
think
is
probably
the
or,
if
ever
with
under
the
200
feet,
I
don't
have
to
come
back
again,
I'm
within
the
criteria,
although
I
don't
know
if
I
will
be
or
not.
I
Ricky
is
that
what
your
suggestion
is:
I've
been
leaning
on
you
on
this
whole
time.
Ricky!
Sorry
about
that.
A
A
It's
better
and
eric
would
correct
me
too
that
if
we
come
back
and
miss
sumrall
finds
out
that
she
only
needs
five
square
feet
extra,
she
says
we've
already
advertised
it
more.
Would
it
would
it
be
okay,
we
could
continue
if
it's
like
205.
Could
we
come
back
at
that
yeah.
A
Okay
and
then
another
procedure
eric
do
we
I've
asked
jess
if
we
got
anybody
on
the
queue
for
this
call,
should
we
go
ahead
and
take
those
testimonies
you
might
have
that
if
there's
anybody
or
what
do
you
say.
E
I
C
Okay,
any
further
discussion
on
the
continuance,
then
I'll
ask
for
a
vote.
Mr
carter,
webb
we're
voting.
C
Hi:
okay,
my
name
is
ms
godski.
J
C
Mr
newman
bye,
mr
wazinski
hi
and
the
chair,
I,
the
motion
for
continuance
is
granted
just
let
us
know
mr
hurley.
When
do
we
need
to
put
a
definite
date
for.
A
I
continuance
sure
typically,
it
should
be
scheduled
for
the
next
meeting
in
may.
What
will
dock
get
it
asked,
but
if,
for
some
reason
we
know
that
contractors
are
very
busy
right
now
so
and
with
the
weather
warming
up,
it
may
be
kind
of
miss
summers
at
the
mercy
of
a
signed
contractor
having
an
available
slot.
So
it
may
be
tentative
for
may
and
I
will
be
in
touch
chair
if
they're,
just
not
able
with
that
out
there.
A
A
C
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
to.
C
Okay,
mr
wazinski,
how
do
you
vote
all
right?
Mr
webb
hi,
mr
newman
hi
miss
godzi,
hi
and
petite
bhakta
says
I
so
emotion
is
granted.
C
C
C
The
petitioner
is
seeking
an
additional
3965
square
feet,
variance
to
the
maximum
grading
allowance
within
a
steep
slope
zone
b
for
property
located
at
662
altamonte
view,
and
then
I
ultimate
view.
Yes.
A
Hurley,
thank
you
all
right.
Thank
you
chair.
I
want
to
make
sure
I
I'm
trying
to
move
deliberately
here
and
not
move
too
quick
with
this
presentation.
Y'all
should
all
see
the
662
ultimate
view,
slideshow
on
your
screen
and
I'll
just
go
ahead
and
move
through
this
first,
as
was
advertised.
This
is
for
an
additional
grading
allowance
within
a
zone
b,
steep
slope
area.
A
A
The
slope
of
the
parcel
is
44.69
percent
per
the
buncombe
county,
steep
slope
tool,
and
it's
rs2
that,
in
conjunction
together,
when
you
look
at
article
7,
12
4,
the
grading
allowance
for
zombie
is
15
and
that
has
been
calculated
as
we
see
up
here
in
the
table
of
5
5945
square
feet,
that's
inclusive
of
the
house
foundation,
driveway,
lawns
utility
connections
or
cuts
required
to
connect
to
you,
know
water,
sewer
and
any
yard
or
tree
removal.
That
would
be
required
to
facilitate
a
house
construction.
A
A
I
think
they
plan
in
the
request
to
do
a
little
bit
less,
but
they're,
basically
asking
for
the
next
classification
down
or
up
depending
on
how
you
want
to
look
at,
but
they
want
to
do
25
grading
for
the
property
25
allowance
would
be
allowed
for
slopes
of
39.99
or
less
so.
This
was
about
four
four
and
a
half
percent
too
high
on
the
slope
calculator,
so
fish
going
through
the
slide
here.
A
A
A
The
gray
hatched
area,
that's
kind
of
more
opaque
is
the
town
of
woodfin
area,
that's
in
their
corporate
limits
and
then
you'll
see
the
city
of
asheville
and
where
our
subject
property
in
the
center
of
the
screen
in
the
light
blue
outline.
A
So
you
see
there's
kind
of
like
a
little
of
a
finger
or
arm
of
the
city
kind
of
surrounded
by
town
of
woodfin
and
just
for
the
second
curiosity,
if
you're
interested
what
the
yellowish
orange
in
the
bottom
center
is,
that
is
our
former
etj
that
we
no
longer
have,
and
so
that
is
buncombe
county
zoning.
So
there's
an
out
of
buckle
county
zoning
within
the
town
in
asheville
there.
So
it's
an
island.
A
So
this
picture
here
and
the
applicant
may
have
more
recent
pictures.
This
is
a
street
view
from
a
few
years
ago
of
the
property,
as
you
see,
there's
mature
trees
on
it
and
mr
eckley
and
or
the
petitioner.
A
The
owners
can
explain
this
table
further,
but
if
I
recall
correctly,
most
of
the
properties
here
have
been
constructed
prior
to
the
adoption
of
steep
slope
zones,
a
and
b
it's
kind
of
the
purpose
of
the
table
and
he's
demonstrating
what
existing
areas
are
out
there
as
far
as
disturbance
that
basically
exceed
this
is
some
rentals
amount
requirements
I'll.
Let
mr
eckley
go
through
that.
A
A
Let
me
go
back
to
the
staff
report.
I'll
robbie,
I'm
going
to
go
back
up
here
to
exhibit
one
and
leave
it
there
for
the
slideshow.
A
And
let
me
check
make
sure
I've
got
just
another
notation,
the
reynolds
mountain
subdivision.
This
is
a
portion
of
that
the
property
was
planted
in
january
of
2002,
so
this
subdivision,
as
it
is,
planted
2002.
A
It
was
annexed
into
the
city
june
30th
2002,
so
about
five
months
later
we
annexed
it
now
granted-
I
don't
have-
I
haven't
been
here
for
19
years,
so
I
don't
recall
the
best
I
can
tell
from
reading
the
plat.
The
city
staff
did
sign
the
plat
for
this
subdivision,
so
it
appears
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge
that
it
was
within
a
city,
zoning
jurisdiction,
probably
an
etj,
but
there
was
also
it
seems
like
there
might
have
been
some
other
inter-jurisdictional
cause.
C
Yes,
sir,
I
do
on
the
the
zoning
map
and
the
city
cities.
I
can't
make
heads
or
tails
of
where
the
line
is
for
the
city.
Okay,.
A
So
this
is
the
zoning
map,
so
there's
this
kind
of
lightest,
yellow
color.
Yes,
here's
our
property,
this
area
directly
behind
the
northwest
is
actually
the
town
of
woodford
and
then
this
property
is
the
town
of
woodford
as
well.
Okay
and
then
across
the
street,
the
houses
directly
across
the
street
of
budding
altamont
view
are
in
the
city
of
asheville
or
as
to
behind
this.
A
The
larger
property
to
the
far
right
of
this
screen
is
town
of
woodfin,
again,
okay
and
then
I'll
go
back
to
the
zoning
map
it's
zoomed
out,
but
and
so
there
it
is
in
the
very
center
here
you
see
a
light
blue
outline,
there's
the
property
immediately
to
the
northwest,
that's
the
town
of
woodfin,
the
two
behind,
and
then
you
see
the
large
property,
that's
to
the
east
of
the
lots
across
the
street.
So
it's
behind!
So
this
the
ultimate
view
is
the
reynolds
mountain
portion
of
it.
C
Okay,
would
the
petitioner
like
to
come
forward
and
present.
D
Thanks
robbie
good
afternoon,
mr
chairman
members
of
the
board
of
adjustment,
my
name
is
danny
mike
love,
and
this
is
my
wife
beth,
my
my
great-grandparents,
my
grandparents,
my
father
mother,
extended
family
were
were
in
our
longtime
residents
of
asheville.
I
had
the
benefit
of
growing
up
in
asheville.
D
We
were
excited
to
find
the
property
at
662
altamont
view
to
build
our
retirement
home,
which,
for
me,
is
in
the
same
general
neighborhood,
where
I
grew
up
on
stratford
road.
We're
here
to
ask
your
approval
of
a
variance
for
our
house
plans
for
lot.
52
at
662
altamont
view
we're
asking
for
this
variance
in
keeping
with
the
percentage
of
land
disturbance
that
has
occurred
with
other
houses
on
the
street.
D
We
believe
that
you
will
find
that
our
request
is
consistent
with
the
spirit
purpose
and
intent
of
the
city
of
asheville
zoning
ordinance,
with
the
help
of
our
contractor
osada
construction
and
architect.
Weyland
schumberger
we've
gone
through
multiple
design,
iterations
to
create
a
house
that
minimizes
the
disturbance
and,
in
fact
disturbs
the
least
amount
of
area
than
any
property
on
the
street.
D
We've
also
made
sure
to
be
consistent
with
the
designs
and
aesthetic
appeal
for
the
neighborhood.
I
personally
talked
with
all
of
our
immediate
neighbors
one
lives
in
florida,
so
I
was
unable
to
talk
with
them.
Some
have
submitted
letters,
others
are
on
the
call
they're
all
supportive
of
us
and
our
request
for
this
variance.
D
I
want
to
thank
ricky
hurley,
planned
review
coordinator
and
other
staff
that
may
have
helped
on
the
specifics
of
what
the
board
needs
in
the
way
of
information.
That's
focused
on
our
request.
K
Yeah,
thank
you
danny.
So
our
process,
when
taking
on
our
client
is,
is
very
much
building
around
the
team
of
our
client,
their
needs
in
the
scope
of
the
project.
It's
a
collaborative
process
in
which
we
bring
in
architect
and
landscape
architects
geotech
to
ensure
that
we
capture
not
only
their
movement
but
also
in
keeping
with
the
local
code
and
ordinances
that
are
in
place.
K
It
also.
We
ensure
that
it's
an
organic
process
that
complements
the
topography
and
contours
of
the
property
and
development
and
consistent
with
the
development
of
surrounding
homes,
having
a
minimal
impact
or
disturbance
with
the
property
that
we're
looking
at
today.
The
current
restriction
of
15
disturbance
currently
impedes
the
ability
to
meet
developing
the
requirements
of
reynolds
mountain,
in
addition
to
with
the
15
disturbance.
K
There's
you
know,
after
the
multiple
design
phases
that
we've
gone
through,
there
is
not
a
current
way
for
us
to
meet
that
making
the
property
unbuildable
at
the
15,
so
there
is
a
hardship
with
the
current
restrictions
in
place.
K
As
mr
michael
love
said,
if
built
that's
proposed,
the
design
will
be
the
least
impactful
in
comparison
to
the
surrounding
homes.
We've
attached
exhibit
one
which
mr
hoey
had
put
up
earlier.
That
comparison
is
to
the
homes
that
were
built
prior
to
the
2007
implementation
of
the
steep
slope
ordinance
by
the
city.
K
So
in
looking
at
those
properties,
there's
only
two
other
properties
that
had
to
meet
the
2007
requirements
on
altima,
one
of
which
bought
two
lots
to
achieve
that.
That
was
the
only
way
they
could
possibly
achieve
it.
So
they
had
to
purchase
two
lots
to
meet
that
requirement.
The
other
was
a
builder
spec
on
that
property.
All
the
other
remaining
blocks
were
built
prior
to
the
2007
ordinance.
So
this
would
be
the
only
lot
that
would
have
to
meet
the
2007
steep
slope
ordinance.
K
The
current
application
of
the
steep
subordinates
being
15
max
is
the
5945
feet.
Square
foot,
disturbance,
rose
mountain
requires
a
2200
max
heated
square
foot
on
the
main
level.
That
is
an
exhibit
two
that
we
added
when
you
take
the
square
footage
of
porches
garages
and
additional
driveway
and
sidewalks
you're
well
over
the
50
45
to
achieve
that
under
roof,
which
means
again
limiting
or
imposing
restrictions
by
the
city
would
not
allow
us
to
achieve
that.
K
We,
the
current
design,
is
at
8
900
square
feet,
so
the
25
would
would
take
us
above
that.
F
Yeah,
it's
my
understanding
that
there
are
some
restrictions
that
are
imposed
by
the
hoa
on
this
whole
situation.
So
let
me
ask
if
the
hoa
didn't
exist,
would
you
still
have
to
be
here
asking
for
a
variance.
K
Yes,
we
would
because,
based
on
the
current
15,
restrictions
is
to
hit
a
design
with
the
first
four
requirements
of
a
typical
design
because
of
the
height
restriction,
the
speech
slope.
We
can
go
main
and
down,
but
with
the
first
four
requirements
and
the
unheated
square
footage.
K
There's
really
no
way
that
we
can
achieve
a
design,
and
I
do
have
waylon
schamberg
who's
the
architect,
and
he
can
elaborate
on
that.
If
he's
willing
to
speak
to
the
actual
design
square
footage.
L
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
waylon
schamberger,
I'm
an
architect
in
hendersonville,
north
carolina
and
because
of
the
restrictions,
even
if
the
hoa
didn't
have
any
minimum
standards
or
requirements
just
to
maintain
a
bet.
You
know
the
basic
standards
of
a
master,
bedroom,
dining
kitchen
living
space
with
a
two-car
garage
and
an
average
porch
on
this.
L
L
If
we
were,
if
there
were
no
minimums,
there's
still
no
way
to
meet
that
maximum
disturbance
area
of
a
little
over
5
000
square
feet.
C
Any
other
comments
from
the
petitioner.
C
Okay,
I'll
close
that
part
of
the
discussion,
I.
K
K
K
Also
something
to
take
into
consideration
is
the
back
portion
of
the
property
which
is
skewing
the
average
slope
of
the
property,
the
road
temperable
court
in
the
back
and
when
that
was
cut
in
it
changed
natural
grade
of
a
lower
portion
of
the
lot.
So
that
also
impacted
the
steep
stickiness
of
the
slope
and
skewed
the
average
overall.
K
L
Okay,
I
would
just
add,
I
would
like
to
add
to
what
robbie
said.
Is
that,
and
so
we
all
understand
the
only
portion
that
we're
disturbing
the
land
is
35
or
less
in
grade
and
the
part
that's
pushing
us
into
the
15
limitation
is
all
on
down
the
very
bottom
part
of
the
lot
that
will
not
be
touched
at
all.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
was
clear.
M
Hello,
my
name
is
kevin
herron
h-e-r-o-n
and
I
own
the
property
directly
below
662
ultimate
view.
C
Okay,
kevin.
Let
me
just
stop
you
real
quick.
Have
you
been
sworn
in?
I
have
not
okay.
Let
me
swear
you
in
for
the
testimony
you're
about
to
give
do
you
swear
to
tell
the
truth
to
hold
truth
and
nothing,
but
the
truth.
M
I
own
the
property
at
20
timberwolf
court,
which
was
previously
described
as
wood
fin.
I
would
just
like
to
clarify
one
thing
that
I've
owned
this
property
since
december
of
2005.
M
and
timberwolf
court
was
not
cut
in
msd,
actually
created
that
space
for
the
sewers.
For
all
mont
view.
F
M
Are
very
welcoming
of
our
you
know:
neighbors,
we
want
to
see
them
get
the
homes
of
their
dreams,
but
we
are
on
the
downside
of
the
slope
of
ultimate
view
and
we
do
have
a
lot
of
drainage
issues.
C
Thank
you.
Oh.
M
I'm
asking
the
insurance
of
if
the
board
were
to
grant
a
larger
footprint.
M
It's
going
to
create
a
hardship
for
me.
I
I
have
a
private
driveway
that
I
had
to
pave
and-
and
you
know
it's
already
begun
to
deteriorate
as
a
result
of
some
of
the
issues
that
happen
up
above
I
don't
know
if
you're
familiar
with
the
storm
water
drainage,
but
either
the
city
of
asheville
or
the
county
of
buncombe
just
allowed
the
developer
originally
just
to
have
open
pipes
run
down
the
mountain.
M
K
Mr
chairman,
I
can
speak
to
that,
if
that's
okay,
absolutely
so
the
request
that
we're
asking
is
from
15
to
25,
regardless
of
the
area
of
disturbance,
there's
still
a
process
that
the
city
requires
for
a
site
plan
and
approval
for
stormwater
management
and
site
drainage.
So,
with
this
plan,
the
site
plan
would
adhere
to
the
state's
requirements,
regardless
of
size,
of
disturbance.
K
Yes,
we're
going
to
do
what's
in
best
for
the
property,
as
we
make
improvements,
that's
just
as
a
builder
and
a
native
of
asheville
in
the
local
area.
You
know
we
want
to
make
sure
and
see
the
properties
that
we
improve
upon,
that
it
is
an
improvement.
So
as
we
develop
the
site
plan,
the
stormwater
management
and
drainage
is
taken
into
account
for
that,
so
we're
going
to
ensure
that
there's
proper
drainage
based
on
the
development
of
the
property
and
that.
M
H
C
Okay,
thank
you.
Do
we
have
any
further
callers
any
more
callers.
H
C
Are
stay.
C
Okay,
let
me
swear
you
in
and
then
then
you
can
present
your
your
conversation.
Do
you
solemnly
swear
to
that?
The
testimony
you're
about
to
give
is
the
truth,
the
whole
truth
and
nothing,
but
the.
H
But
I
I
do
want
everyone
to
know
that
this
lot
was
designed
was
designed,
for
it
was
cut
out,
as
you've
been
told
back
in
2002.
Subsequently,
this
slope
ordinance
was
passed.
H
H
It
seems
to
me
that
that
lot
should
be
built
on
that's
what
it
was
designed
for,
and
I
think
they've
done
everything
they
can
to
make
what
they're
trying
to
do
fit
as
best
they
can
and
I'm.
I
have
just
been
very
impressed
with
the
efforts
they
have
made
to
try
to
make
this
all
work
and
we'll
be
very
happy
if
we
get
them
as
a
next-door
neighbor.
So
thank
you.
C
Okay,
do
you
have
any
further
comments
or
questions
for
the
caller
or.
C
I'm
going
to
close
the
public
comments
and
open
it
up
for
more
discussion,
thoughts.
J
There
is
not
a
whole
lot
right
there,
so
I
you
know
it's
like
the
one
we
had
there
last
month
this
little,
you
know
some
of
these
steeper
sloped
areas
are
tough
to
work
based
on
the
restrictions
that
are
put
in
place
based
on
the
udo
right.
J
C
Yeah,
I
tend
to
agree
you
know
being
in
the
mountains.
It's
every
lot
is
topographically
challenged
in
some
ways.
In
this
case,
we
used
to
own
the
hotel
down
below
the
day's
end,
and
I
know
going
up
the
reynolds
mountain.
It's
it's
very
steep
going
up
there
and
the
lots
are
probably
steeper
with
with
their
terrain,
so
I
know
how
challenging
it
could
be.
C
Aside
from
the
fact
that
you
know,
most
of
these
houses
were
developed
before
the
steep
ordinances
were
kicked
were
modified.
You
know
this.
This
lot
obviously
was
built
according
to
you
know
back
then
the
ordinance
is
then,
and
it's
it's
it's
a
hardship.
In
my
opinion,
meeting
the
requirements
set
forth
in
the
four
questions
that
this
board
has
to
base
its
approval
on.
C
C
C
I
think
you
know
it
passes
the
the
test
for
me
further
thoughts.
F
Hi
this
is
paul.
Let
me
tell
you
that
I
agree
with
everything
mr
bhakta
said,
and
also
the
fact
that,
if
we
didn't
grant
this
variance,
the
lot
would
essentially
be
useless
and
also
that
what
was
presented
to
us
was
that
the
owners
are
not
asking
for
any
more
than
all
of
the
other
surrounding
houses
already
have
lead
me
to
be
inclined
to
support
this
request.
J
I'll
move
that
we
approve
the
that's
what's
been
stated
right
there
and
approve
the
bearings.
Please.
C
Okay,
any
further
discussion
I'll
take,
if
not
I'll,
take
it
to
a
vote.
Mr
mr
webb,
all
right,
mr
newman
aye,
mr
wizinski,
all
right,
mr
fun,
danish.
H
C
And
mr
block
there's
the
eye:
the
motion
passes,
the
variance
is
granted
you
have
one
year
to
make
use
of
that
variance.
Awesome.
C
Thank
you
guys.
I
don't
believe
we
have
any
more
agenda
items
left.
So
with
that
I
will
have
a
no
objection
motion
to
adjourn.
Are
there
any
objections
to
adjourn.