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A
Hi
and
thank
you
welcome
to
the
human
relations
commission
city
of
asheville.
My
name
is
tanya
rodriguez.
I'm
your
chair
this
evening
would
like
to
hold
off
for
a
couple
of
more
moments
until
more
commissioners
come
in,
and
so
we'll
just
wait
for
a
couple
more
minutes
until
more
people
show
up.
Thank.
A
A
Just
waiting
on
vice
chair
oliver
to
come
back
and
begin
5.
A
A
All
right,
how's
everybody
doing
tonight
so
far
so
good,
it's
good
to
see
everybody's
faces
I'd
like
to
open
up
the
meeting
with
call
to
order
with
the
land
acknowledgement
of
the
sacred
cherokee
land
that
we
are
all
occupying
at
this
time.
A
It
looks
like
ivan
commissioner
ivan
melkor,
isn't
here
yet,
commissioner,
chris.
A
D
A
Thank
you
doesn't
look
like
commissioner
alfred
greene
is
here.
A
We
have
a
new
commissioner.
Emma
nicole
worthy
doesn't
seem
like
commissioner
worthy
is
in
here,
and
we
have
council,
woman,
kim
rooney.
E
A
Thank
you.
We
have
our
staff
stuff
liaison
richard
white.
A
Thank
you
very
much
welcome
to
all
of
you
that
are
here
staff
and
the
public
that
are
watching
the
purpose
I
like
to
introduce
the
mission
of
the
hrca.
A
The
purpose
of
the
human
relations
commission
of
asheville
is
to
promote
and
improve
human
relations
and
to
achieve
equity
among
all
citizens
in
the
city.
By
carrying
out
the
city's
human
relations
program,
the
hrca
will
prioritize
racial
equity
and
will
work
with
city,
government
and
partner
with
communities
and
outside
agencies,
in
an
effort
to
encourage
and
ensure
diversity,
fairness,
equity
and
inclusion
throughout
the
city,
in
furtherance
thereof,
the
hrca
should
endeavor
to
identify
and
assist
in
addressing
all
forms
of
individual
institutional
and
community
discrimination
through
education,
advocacy
and
policy
recommendations.
A
In
our
call
to
order,
we
kind
of
revamped
this
agenda
from
previous
agendas,
and
I
would
like
to
have
a
consensus
on
the
review
of
the
agenda.
Has
any
everybody
had
a
chance
to
check
out
the
new
agenda
and
what
you,
how
do
you?
How
did
it
land
with
you.
A
Is
there
any
way
that
we
can
bring
up
the
agenda
as
a
screen.
H
A
H
A
And
I'd
encourage
maybe
to
use
your
phone
in
conjunction
with
the
meeting
to
check
out
the
agenda
as
well.
H
Thanks,
please,
let
me
know
if
I
need
to
make
any
of
the
tags
bigger.
I
I
have
one
issue:
can
my
name
be
spelled
correctly?
Please,
my
name
is
e
capital,
l,
o
r
e
s.
F
A
A
All
right
can
you
scroll
up
for
us
christina
just
so
that
we
can
have
a
look
at
the
agenda,
so
we
have
our
call
to
order
the
new
business.
The
working
group
updates.
A
Community
announcements
and
a
public
comment:
a
live
public
comment,
I'd
like
to
maybe
invite
for
us
to
do
next
meeting
and
then
adjournment.
What
we
did
add
are
documents
that
relate
to
the
human
relations
commission
that
can
be
found
online
that
are
easily
linked
to
there
and
then
on.
The
very
bottom
of
the
agenda
are
our
recommendations.
We
have
three
recommendations
on
the
table.
This
particular
human
relations
commission
meeting.
A
So
I'd
encourage
all
of
you
to
maybe
open
up
your
phone
and
go
to
your
email
or
the
documents
so
that
you
can
also
have
the
agenda
in
front
of
you.
If
that's
possible,
how
does
how
does
this
land
with
everybody?
Is
everybody
approve
of
this?
Does
this
feel
good
for
you.
A
Thank
you
that
was
councilwoman
rooney's
suggestion,
so
councilwoman
rumi
irony
walked
with
us
brendan,
commissioner
oliver
and
I
together
to
to
create
an
agenda
that
is
open
to
the
public
and
transparent
and
then
for
us
to
really
hone
in
on
the
things
that
we're
here
to
do.
Commissioner,
tiffany
fleurne
doubleo.
J
A
I
Can
I
ask
a
question:
please
I'm
cool
with
this
as
a
group,
because
we
do
have
the
availability,
obviously
as
a
group,
to
be
able
to
operate
in
this
capacity,
but
I
also
am
concerned
because
I
do
know
that
social
media
or
social
constructs,
like
cell
phones,
wi-fi
and
things
aren't
available
to
everyone.
You
know
that
is
a
privilege,
so
I
would
just
like
to
say
that
going
forward.
I
do
like
the
way
the
agenda
looks.
I
It
looks
great,
but
I
do
want
to
be
able
to
have
a
way
that
people
can
also
address
our
boards
that
don't
have
these
capabilities.
I
A
Right,
thank
you,
commissioner.
Venable.
One
of
the
things
that
we
wanted
to
bring
in
was
in
the
unfinished
business
was
to
potentially
discuss
or
vote
on
a
potential
meeting
time
change
to
two
hours
where
we
can
discuss
what
public
comment
looks
like
for
us.
So
what
does
that
look
like?
How
can
we
have
access
for
a
public
comment
to
us
and
and
establish
it
right
now
together
as
a
group?
A
So
so
I
I
hear
you
and
I
appreciate
that,
because
it
is
important
that
we
open
up
all
pathways
of
communication
from
the
community
of
asheville
to
us
being
that
we
are
the
conduit
from
the
community
to
city
government
and
the
city
of
asheville.
So
I
appreciate
you
seeing
that.
Thank
you.
A
So
it's
is
that
everybody
agree.
It
looks
like
everybody.
We've
got
quorum
on
that,
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
implement
this
and
use
this
as
a
template
for
further
meetings.
Thank
you.
How
about
the
april
2021
minutes
has
point.
E
Of
order
chair,
do
you
mind
if
we
go
ahead
and
adopt
the
agenda
with
a
motion
and
second
in
a
roll
call
votes?
That's
official.
A
J
A
Second
motion:
don't
move,
thank
you
all
right
that
sounds
fabulous
and
how
about
the
april
2021
agenda.
Thank
you.
Councilwoman
rooney.
E
You
would
still
need
a
roll
call
vote
on
that.
A
Oh,
do
we
need
we
still,
oh
right,
because
the
online
rules
right
roll
call
vote
on
the
agenda
to
agenda
approval.
H
A
Commissioner,
weinberner.
K
A
Wonderful,
that
was
a
unanimous
vote.
Fantastic.
Thank
you
very
much.
All
of
you.
It's
moving
on
to
april
2021
minutes.
L
A
Oh
wonderful,
is
there
possibly.
A
Councilwoman
rooney:
can
we
put
those
minutes
up
in
the
documents
and
bring
them
in
for
approval
for
our
next
meeting
in
june.
E
Yes-
and
you
could
link
to
both
the
april
and
may
minutes
for
the
next
meeting.
A
A
Since
we're
at
a
place
in
our
commission
where
we're
moving
forward
in
really
big
ways,
one
of
the
things
that
has
come
up
in
conversation
was
the
need
for
a
secretary
and
one
of
the
names
that
came
up
for
secretary,
because
commissioner
neues
is
already
involved
with
doing
minutes
and
and
doing
a
lot
of
work
with
keeping
track
of
the
what's
happening
with
the
hrca.
A
I
would
like
to
invite
the
electing
or
the
appointing
of
commissioner
noyes
to
secretary,
and
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
appoint
commissioner
noyes
to
secretary
of
the
hrca.
So
can
I
get
a
second
on
that?
A
Thank
you
very
much
and
let's
do
a
roll
call.
Commissioner
venable.
G
K
Yes
and
I'll
note
that
I
believe
this
is
the
first
time
that
we've
been
able
to
pull
the
minutes
onto
the
shoulders
of
the
actual
commission
before
it
was
always
the
office
of
equity
and
inclusion
staff
helping
us.
So
I
think
this
is
a
proud
moment
and
a
movement
moment
moving
forward
for
the
commission.
D
B
F
A
Annoyance
it's
my
pleasure.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
for
stepping
up
to
lead
that
position
and
service.
We
appreciate
you
for
opening
up
yourself
for
for
to
to
be
in
that
position.
So
thank
you.
A
Moving
on
to
our
second
item
in
new
business
hrca,
to
consider
inviting
a
representative
from
the
fairly
newly
formed
asheville
police
department,
community
engagement
division
to
present
to
us
what's
going
on
with
that
community
engagement
and
how
we
can
be
involved
with
that
community
engagement.
So
this
is
an
item
brought
in
by
commissioner
weinberner.
K
Yeah
I'll
be
glad
to
in
response
to
community
reactions.
K
K
This
group
was
just
formed
by
the
apd
in
december,
and
I
thought
with
the
work
that
we
are
chartered
to
do,
it'd
be
interesting
to
have
someone
from
that
department
report
out
to
us
on
what
they
learned
to
engage
the
community,
because
one
of
our
mandates,
of
course,
is
to
engage
the
community
and
we're
developing
methods
develop
sources.
K
One
thing
that
keeps
coming
up
in
our
discussions
is
public
safety
and
policing,
and
I
feel
that
it
would
be
a
tool
in
our
belt
to
at
least
know
what
the
apd
is
offering
up
as
community
engagement.
That
is
the
reason
for
my
bringing.
A
This
thank
you
very
much,
commissioner
weinbringer.
Would
you
would
we
like
to
open
that
up
for
discussion?
Anybody
have.
A
I
I
please
I
I
do
like
the
way
this
is
going
forward.
I
do,
however,
would
like
to
know,
because
we
made
a
resolution
as
a
board
and
it
took
a
year
and
a
half
almost
two
years
about
cpac
and
what
is
going
on
with
cpac,
because
we
had
basically
made
a
vote
as
a
board
to
absorb
some
of
cpac's
issues,
and
I'm
concerned
about
a
what
is
going
on
with
cpac
b.
Are
they
having
meetings?
Still
three?
Is
this
board
still
a
board
that
is
recognized
by
city
council?
Three?
I
Is
it
being
for?
Is
it
being
dissolved
five?
How
do
we
bring
those
folks
if
they
are
into
play
into
this
conversation,
because
I
feel,
like
you
know,
part
of
that?
The
resolution
that
we
we
voted
upon
was
that
we
would
not
absorb
cpac's
full
brunt.
What
we
would
do
is
stepping
into
equitable
spaces
that
they
particularly
did
not
have
the
full
ability
to
be
equitable
inclusion
and
human
relatable
to
so,
I
would
like
to
kind
of,
like
figure
out
as
a
board
like
how
we're
gonna
kind
of
work
that
out.
I
A
We
actually
do
have
a
line
on
that.
Thank
you,
commissioner,
venable
in
unfinished
business.
A
If
you
look
at
the
agenda
and
you'll
see,
item
number
two
three
four
is:
does
address
the
discussion
info
options
for
a
memorandum
of
understanding
with
cpac
to
either
get
a
motion
or
off
the
table
so
that
we
can
review
and
discuss
our
relationship
with
cpac
at
that
time.
So
I
hear
you
and
thank
you
for
bringing
it
up
and
it
is
on
the
agenda,
and
so
I'd
like
to
invite
a
point
of
order
to
go
back.
A
K
Yeah,
if
I
could,
if
I
could
just
say
this,
I
think
dolores
brings
up
a
good
point
in
us
trying
to
figure
out
the
whole
policing
issue.
So
may
I
would
just
like
to
table
to
table
this
this
issue
and
maybe
have
it
put
to
future
agenda
items,
and
that
will
allow
you
to
work
through
the
agenda
and
address
on
the
issue.
I
May
I
have
an
opportunity
to
respond
to
commissioner
weinberger,
please,
and
I
do
kind
of
agree
with
where
chris
is
going,
because
this
is
something
that
I
bought
and
worked
on
for
it
took
a
long
time
to
even
get
to
that
vote
and
I
don't
think
we
fully
have
the
encompass.
So
I
I
also
agree
with
where
chris
is
going
like.
I
I
I
would
like
to
if
we
can
like
kind
of
put
that
motion
to
the
side
until
our
board
has
a
full
understanding,
because
I
don't
even
know
what's
going,
I
don't
think
a
lot
of
us
know
what's
going
on
with
cpac
right
now
and
that's
where
we
came
from,
you
know
absorbing
some
of
that
issue
and
I
just
like
to
have
a
better
construction
before
we
kind
of
dive
off
into
some
things
that
we
might
not
be
aware
of
that's
going
on
all
together.
That's
all
I'm
saying.
A
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much,
commissioner,
juan
brenner
and
commissioner
benabal,
as
I
shared
before
that
discussion
is
on
our
agenda
today.
So
if
we
can
complete
this
part
and
then
when
we
get
there,
we
can
really
dive
in
into
that
discussion
and
try
to
figure
out
what's
going
on,
because
that
is
in
our
unfinished
business
and
so
and
I'm
I'm
in
agreement
with
both
of
you.
A
I
A
All
right,
I
would
like
to
maybe
table
this
for
right
now
until
we
get
to
that
point
in
the
agenda
and
then
maybe
we
can
go
from
there.
I
think
that
that
might
be
a
good
idea.
A
Moving
on.
Thank
you
very
much,
commissioner
wen
bernard
moving
on
to
working
group
updates.
We've
got
a
few
working
groups
in
action
right
now.
We've
got
a
houseless
working
group
led
by
commissioner
chandler,
and
I
would
like
to
invite
commissioner
chandler
at
this
time
to
the
floor,
to
share
about
updates
and
findings
with
the
houseless
working
group.
Thank
you.
N
Thank
you
and
thanks
everyone
for
your
support
and
patience
while
we're
working
through
various
interviews,
the
the
updates
from
last
month,
we
had
one
final
interview
with
homeward
bound
between
this
meeting
and
last
month's
meeting
around
the
issues
of
of
the
houseless
encampments
and
how
we
might
move
forward
as
as
a
as
a
recommendation
for
the
city
council
and
in
between
that
time,
the
cdc
order
to
to
allow
the
houseless
population
to
shelter
in
place
was
lifted
for
asheville
and
those
encampments
were
removed.
N
If
you'll
recall,
this
came
about
about
that
february.
First
incident,
where
there
was
a
misunderstanding
between
the
department
of
transportation,
removing
a
bridge
encampment
on
the
coldest
day
that
we
had
this
year,
and
so
we
have
coming
from
that
and
working
through
the
interviews
that
we've
had
with
the
the
different
stakeholders
across
the
spectrum.
N
What
we
have
are
two
recommendations
for
the
the
city
city
council,
one
about
the
camping
ordinance
and
removing
the
camping
ordinance
so
that
it
is
no
longer
illegal
to
camp
and
then
providing
support.
There
are
federal
housing
dollars
and
there
are
also
coveted
relief
funds
that
are
earmarked
for
houseless
populations.
N
One
of
the
key
issues
that
our
city
officials
like
kathy,
bald
as
the
spent
manager
or
saying,
is
that
it's
a
safety
issue
and
the
encampments
are
a
safety
issue
to
each
other,
so
in
redirecting
some
of
those
policing
funds
into
chasing
houseless
campers
around
and
ticketing
them
to
doing
things
like
providing
sanitation-
and
you
know
basic
protection
and
checks,
and
things
like
that.
N
N
While
it
works
out
how
it
would
manage
sourcing
those
funds
into
making
those
encampments
making
houseless
encampments
safe
for
the
residents
who
shelter
there
do
at
this
point
do
do
we
open
for
questions
or
or
review
of
the
I
shared
the
the
I
shared
the
recommendation
with
you
all
in
advance,
so
you'd
have
a
chance
to
look
at
it
and
if
you,
if
there
were
any
questions
or
suggestions,
this
seems
like
a
great
time.
J
N
I
I
Okay,
so
my
question
is,
and
it's
a
two-part
question
one
is
to
the
com
committee
that
worked
on.
This
is
great
work
and
I
also
have
a
question
for
our
council
liaison
councilman
rony
councilwom
moroni,
the
two
parts
that
I
would
like
to
ask
is
this.
I
So
I
do
get
the
gist
of
this
resolution
and
I
would
like
to
know
if
this
resolution
was
written
before
city
council
had
a
chance
last
tuesday
to
proliferate
what
they
voted
upon,
and
I
would
like
for
our
board
to
also
know
from
our
council
liaison
exactly
what
that
entailed
as
far
as
council.
I
And
how
does
this
resolution
kind
of
does
it?
Is
it
not
rep?
I
don't
want
to
say
repetitive,
because
I
don't
like
that
word
so
much,
because
I
think
it
can
be
kind
of
offensive
in
certain
aspects,
and
I
know
that
when
people
work,
it's
not
repetitive,
you
just
do
the
work
that
you
need
to
do
at
the
time,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
sending
a
recommendation
that
has
not
already
been
voted
upon
and
is
bigger
than
what
our
board
had
even
thought
about.
N
I
I
do
know
that
council
passed
10
million
dollars
to
be
given
to
the
homeless
initiative.
There
were
some
issues
with
some
other
cause
causes
where
there
was
some
closed
door.
Discussions
with
gwen
whistler
had
issues
with,
especially
when
talking
about
putting
the
city
at
a
place
to
be
basically
building
homeless,
shelters,
because
that
would
put
the
city
in
a
place
where
it
would
be
a
business
entity
where
real
estate
developers
could
come
in
and
be
able
to
seize
the
moment
as
well,
and
so
I
would,
I
think,
miss
ronin
would
be
best.
I
You
know
able
to
answer
this
question
because
she
was
there
for
the
vote,
and
that
was
something
that
was
passed
on
tuesday.
So
I
would
like
a
board
to
maybe
get
a
little
bit
more
clarity
on
that
if
we
could,
if
that,
I,
I
think
this
commit
that
working
group
might
need
to
hear
that
as
well.
E
So,
as
far
as
the
timeline
I'm
hearing,
I'm
that
this
language
was
drafted
before
the
last
council
meeting
and
that
these
are
policy
recommendations,
not
necessarily
funding
recommendations,
am
I
understanding
that
from
the
working
group.
N
N
But
yes,
the
the
recommendations
are
around
ordinances
that
are
in
place
and
supporting
it
through
some
funding.
That's
become
available
with
those
encampments,
as
as
far
as
addressing
the
larger
much
larger
than
the
scope
of
what
we
had
put
out
there.
We
haven't
considered
that
yet
we
were
mostly
making
a
reaction
to
a
policy
reaction.
N
The
policy
change
request
as
a
reaction
to
that
february.
First
incident
with,
with
the
with
the
eye
on
the
upcoming
weather,
that's
going
to
get
extreme
the
other
way,
with
heat
instead
of
cold.
Does
that
make
sense
to
answer
your
question,
dolores
that
they're
they're
supporting
each
other.
I
I
kind
of
do
see
where
they
can
across
the
the
the
metrics
of
both.
I
guess
what
I
just
don't
want.
Our
board
to
do
is
like
recommend
something
with
a
time
frame
where
there's
been
more
monies
given
to
this
issue
ever
before
by
council,
with
initiatives
behind
the
lines,
because
it
seemed
as
though
that
council
had
some
other
initiatives
that
pushed
them
to
be
able
to
give
that
type
of
funding
that
had
programs.
I
Other
things
you
know
the
days
in
the
city
is
now
about
you
know
people
are
buying
the
daisy
in
for
that
issue,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
weren't
kind
of
like
being
repetitive
in
something
that
already
and
like
I
said
it
was
great
work
and,
like
you
said
it
was
kind
of
reactionary
than
one
thing,
but
I
want
to
know
how
to
do
that.
That
can
that
working
group
feel
with
the
present
situation
now
that
council
has
made
a
vote
and
does
that
affect
how
that
recommendation
works.
L
Yeah,
I
would
that's
a
really
good
question
and
yeah.
I
appreciate
you
making
sure
that
funding
is
going
to
all
areas
of
the
city
that's
needed.
I
think
that,
with
this
recommendation,
it's
not
changing
any
funding
that
the
city
has
already
gotten
or
where
it's
flowing
it's
money.
L
That
was
already
there
we're
just
saying
that,
instead
of
using
it
to
remove
people
to
provide
sanitation-
and
this
is
something
that
is
pretty
important-
and
not
not
repetitive
at
all-
to
do
right
now,
because
some
of
the
money
that
was
given
to
the
city
to
take
care
of
our
house,
houseless
folks,
was
used
to
put
people
in
hotels
and
so
that
funding
and
that
money
and
that
that
program
ends
at
the
end
of
june.
L
So
by
june
30th,
all
those
people
that
were
put
in
those
hotels
have
to
leave,
and
actually
so
there
are
60
people
at
the
red
roof
and
and
then
there
are
120
people
who
are
at
other
hotels
right
now
that
are
going
to
be
asked
to
leave
by
the
end
of
june.
So
when
commissioner
chandler
asked,
if
anybody
had
questions
or
recommendations,
I
did
want
to
shorten
that
timeline
of
the
60
days.
L
That
was
on
the
recommendation
to
the
end
of
june,
where
people
will
be
leaving
those
hotels
with
nowhere
to
go,
and
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
and
add
with
that
that
it's
really
important
for
the
non-profits
in
the
city
and
mutual
aid
groups
to
be
able
to
find
our
houseless
neighbors
in
order
to
provide
them
with
with
help
and
aid.
And
that's
the
sanitation
thing
is
important
too,
for
health
reasons
and
because,
if
basic
sanitation,
basic
sanitation
is
not
met,
that
leads
to
our
folks
using
emergency
services.
L
More
so
yeah,
that's
that's
all
I
have.
I
hope
that
answers
your
question
and
paints
a
more
clear
picture.
I
It
kind
of
does
thank
you
so
much
yeah,
and
I
just
appreciate
your
response.
My
my
other
question
is
is
to
my
understanding
that
these
people
will
not
be
displaced
at
that
date
due
to
the
fact
that
these
monies
have
been
put
into
place
in
order
to
not
have
displacement.
I
So
I
also
would
like
to
know
is
that
resolution
part
of
that
too,
because
it
is
to
my
understanding,
I
think
miss
ronnie
might
be
able
to
question
and
and
more
fertility,
since
she
was
part
of
that
vote
and
the
conversation
that
happened
behind
some
closed
doors,
that
this
is
not
something
these
people
would
not
be.
You
know,
folks
who
are
houseless
and
there's
more
room
to
homelessness
than
homeless.
I
So
I
think
that
part
of
that
discussion
with
city
council
was
that
folks
would
not
be
displaced
past
a
certain
date,
because
that
date
came
into
play
before
a
vote.
E
I'm
happy
to
get
some
work
clarification
from
staff
if
richard,
if
you'd
like
to
jump
in
here,
but
it's
my
understanding
that
the
funds
that
were
voted
on
at
the
last
council
meeting
were
for
the
contract
which
ends
at
the
end
of
june.
M
Yes,
we'll
get
clarification
on
the
june
30th
date.
What
happens
beyond
that
and
provide
that
back
to
the
commission.
A
Please,
commissioner,
weinberger.
K
Thank
you,
susie
is
basically
what
your
work
group
wanting
us
to
do
this
evening
is
to
remove
the
ordinances,
have
listed
city
code,
chapter
2,
chapter
12,
article
3,
section
12
through
51
and
12-52.
N
Yes,
that
was
a
recommendation
by
the
police
captain
was
to
remove
the
camping
ordinance.
That's
so
they
wouldn't
have
to
take
it.
I
I
did
want
to
take
one
one
more
step
back
to
commissioner
venables
question
about
these
concurrent
running
things.
While
you
know
the
city's
aim
is
to
in
our
you
know,
aim
as
a
as
a
working
group
is
to
do
what
we
can
to
end
homelessness.
N
There
will
always
be
some
houseless
people
who
either
the
the
ideas
of
low
barrier
entries
where
entry
shelters,
where
people
don't
have
to
take
a
breathalyzer,
a
drug
test
or
provide
id
those
are
available
now,
but
they
will.
There
will
always
be
people
who
are
either
car,
camping
or
basically
sleeping
on
the
ground
if,
if
even
if,
all
the
funding
that
we
need
is
available.
N
So
what
this
back
to
answer,
commissioner,
chris's
question,
what
this
is
doing
is
removing
the
crime
around
not
having
a
place
to
lay
down
so
that,
because
it's
not
going
to
be
possible
to
ticket
our
way
out
of
this
situation,
as
commissioner
noya
said
that
our
our
best
way
to
service
these
individuals
and
to
be
equitable
for
the
whole
city
is
to
be
able
to
contact
houses,
people
with
resources
to
know
where
they
are
and
have
residences
or
homes,
homes
for
them,
even
if
they're
in
intense
and
parks
so
that
they
are
accessible
for
for
services,
for
the
things
that
homer
bound
does
things
that
beloved
asheville
does
for
psychological
services.
N
Things
like
that,
but
having
a
location
that
is
okay
for
them
to
be
in
is
is
a
really
important
piece
of
that.
So,
yes,
this
recommendation
is
to
to
remove
the
camping,
the
no
camping
ordinance
for
the
city
and
city
parks,
of
course
not
on
private
property,
but
within
city
property,
so
that
the
houseless
community
has
a
safe
place
to
be
to
receive
those
services.
D
Commissioner,
coy
thank
you,
commissioner
clay.
Would
you
like
to
respond.
O
Yeah,
I
was
just
I
went
into
the
notes
and
actually
found
that
we
have
some
public
comment.
We
had
six
emails
and
they
were
all
actually
pertaining
to
this
issue,
and
I
didn't
know
if
everybody
had
a
chance
to
read
them
or
if
we
should
read
them
aloud,
we
do
have
them
about
and
it
is.
They
are
all
specifically
about
this
issue
too.
O
None
of
them
have
dates,
but
they
are
part
of
our
documents.
If
you
go
to
the
human
relation
commission
page
on
asheville.gov
website
and
go
over
to
documents,
they
are
there
under
under
our
documents.
Public
comment.
I
O
I
think
we
all
already
actually
have
access
to
these.
I
went
in
to
share
and
we
are,
I
believe
we
are
all
hang
on
human
relations.
Commission.
O
Okay,
no
we're
not
all
there.
I
apologize,
but
I
can
share
that
really
quick.
If
everybody
wants
me
to
email.
N
If
everyone
else
is
comfortable
with
the
volume
and
the
arrangement
just
reading
them
seems
fine,
commissioner
young.
Well,
yes,.
P
I
got
a
few
questions
about
this,
so
the
thing
is
we
helping
the
homeless
people
right
and
black
men.
They
got
felonies,
we
can't
even
get
in
the
house
and
most
of
these
homeless
people
has
felonies
or
child
molesters
or
whatever
else
and
ashfield
is
jumping
through
the
hoops
to
help
them.
But
you
got
people
that's
been
here
all
day.
Lives
can't
even
get
help
from
housing.
P
L
Yeah,
I
really
appreciate
you
saying
that,
because
it's
something
that
I
I
do
feel
like
as
a
latinx
person,
not
that
that
is
any
way
comparable.
I
feel
like
it
is
overlooked,
but
I
have
started
working
at
a
non-profit
that
works
with
this
population
and
from
what
I
can
see.
It
also
is
a
racial
equity
issue,
helping
this
particular
population.
It's
disproportionately
black
and
brown
folks
that
live
here
that
have
lived
here
for
a
long
time
and
so
helping
these
folks
that
are
at
the
bottom.
L
I
feel
like
does
lift
our
community
from
the
bottom
in
that
way
and
you're
totally
right
about
the
housing
barriers.
It's
incredible
how
many
people
are
denied
housing
for
their
criminal
background
when,
as
we
know,
black
and
brown
people
are
disproportionately
targeted
by
the
cops.
L
So
I
feel
like
this
is
a
really
good
start
and
like
just
like
one
piece
of
the
puzzle
that
aims
to
heal
our
community
in
that
way,
and
it's
by
no
means
the
only
answer,
but
I
do
think
that
it's
a
place
to
start
so
yeah.
Thank
you
for
bringing
that
up,
because
it
is
a
racial
issue
too.
So.
P
Let
me
ask
you
a
question
so
when
are
we
gonna
address
it?
I
mean
ashley,
give
the
homeless
people
10
million
dollars,
and
here
we
got
events
for
our
community
june
10
for
whatever
non-profits,
and
we
can't
even
get
ashfield
to
give
us
money.
For
this
I
mean,
I
believe
the
city
is
going
backwards,
we're
giving
out
this
free
money
to
help
everybody
else,
but
when
it's
time
to
help
our
own
community,
the
city
council
members,
they
turn
it
back
on
and
richard.
Maybe
you
can
explain
to
me,
but
this
ain't
making
sense.
P
You
got
a
lot
of
people
in
ashford,
that's
homeless,
right
now,
that's
being
homeless,
but
now
y'all
now
y'all
want
to
address
the
issue
now,
because
y'all
can
benefit
off
this
and
it
makes
the
city
look
good,
but
the
city
ain't
been
looking
good.
The
city
has
always
looked
like
asheville's
been
doing
by
their
own
community
from
day
one,
not
only
the
community,
but
with
the
schools
y'all,
letting
our
kids
down.
So
how?
How
did
y'all
find
this
10
million
dollars
to
get
to
this
situation?
But
y'all
ain't
found
no
money
to
fix.
A
Can
I
jump
in
on
this
because
I
see
this
starting
to
go
into
a
direction
that
that
may
not
be
conducive
to
continuing
this
meeting
to
address
all
of
these
recommendations
that
we
have
on
the
table.
Commissioner,
young,
I
completely
hear
you
and
I
understand
that
what
you're
saying
I
do
I
would
like
to
bring
in
that.
What
what
we're
doing
and
what
you're
talking
about
are:
there's
they're
intersectional
but
they're,
two
separate
things.
A
What
the
recommendations
are
doing
are
creating
protections
not
based
in
money
or
anything
they're,
creating
protections
right.
One
is
for
right
now
that
can
be
brought
in
for
inclement
weather
within
relation
to
houses,
people
and
the
other
one
is
to
protect
houses,
people,
especially
the
chronically
houseless
people
from
being
removed.
A
What
the
money
is
being
put
into
the
houseless
communities
and
initiatives
by
the
city
of
asheville
is
something
that
is
a
separate
issue
that
we
can
address
in
and
put
forward
and
maybe
a
future
agenda
item
and
then
I'm.
I
really
am
interested
in
working
together
in
creating
recommendations
for
city
council
for
fair
and
equitable
housing
practices,
which
is
something
that
is
within
our
scope.
A
As
the
hrca
does,
and
it's
a
statewide
thing
and
raleigh
particular
the
hrca
in
raleigh
in
particular,
really
does
a
lot
with
with
a
fair
and
equitable
housing
initiatives
and
in
that
way
and
support.
So
I
believe
that
we
can
do
this
right
now.
As
far
as
the
addressing
inequitable
ordinance.
A
That
target
are
one
of
the
most
vulnerable
populations
of
the
city
and
then
also
address
the
money
allocation
to
a
fair
and
equitable
place
relating
to
once
again,
the
most
one
of
the
most
vulnerable
demographics
of
the
city,
as
well
as
the
people
that
are
most
impacted
by
unfair
equitable
practices
by
the
city.
So
I
hope
that
helps
a
bit
in
in
in
in
grounding
where,
where
this
is
and
the
the
basis
for
these
initiatives-
and
I
you
know-
I'm
I'm
with
you
on
the
money
you
know-
but
this
is.
N
I
did
receive
the
email
from
veronica
I
had
not
seen
these
before,
shall
I
shall
I
read
the
emails
or.
B
B
I
think
it's
oftentimes
overlooked
that
every
single
human
relation
issue
that
arises
affects
us
and
we're
at
the
bottom
of
the
barrel,
so
everything
that
comes
across
this
board
should
in
some
way
be
in
regards
to
the
black
population,
especially
in
asheville,
who
has
acknowledged
the
wrong
that
has
been
done
and
is
still
being
done
today,
but
it's
like
all
right.
Well,
we've
addressed
it
and
nothing
else
is
really
shaking
about
it.
I
And
I
can't
do
the
hand-raising
thing
either
because
it's
not
on
my
app
either
with
this
situation,
but
that's
where
I
was
coming
from
didn't
mean
to
step
over
comments.
But
that's
why
I
keep
reiterating.
Are
we
just
repeating
you
know
what
we
hear
and
what
we
see
in
order
to
be
applicable
and
rubber
stamp?
Something
or
who
is
this
helpful?
I
That's
where
I'm
at,
but
I
didn't
want,
but
I'm
glad
that
commissioner
young
did
say
because
I
always.
I
know
that
I'm
always
viewed
as
the
person
who
always
has
adversarial
comments
or
whatever,
and
I
ask
questions
because
I
think
people
don't
really
understand,
sometimes
the
full
girth
of
what's
going
on
and
most
of
my
background
has
been
political,
financial
and
advocacy.
That's
what
I
do
you
know
mostly
that's
what
I
do
and
I'm
very
good
at
what
I
do
so
I
know
how
to
read
financial
statements.
I
I
I
So
these
are
the
things
that
I
want
our
working
groups
to
take
into
account
when
they
go
into
these
silos,
because
that's
what
working
groups
are
they're
silos
because
you
don't
have
to
report,
you
don't
have
to
report
those
meetings
to
the
public.
You
just
have
them,
so
nobody
in
the
public
has
to
know
about
what
you
said
or
what
you
do
and
once
you
do
something
you're
speaking
on
behalf
of
this
entire
board
and
saying
that
we
agree
with
something
that
we
don't
and
for
me
I
don't
fully
understand
how
we
got
here.
I
I
do
understand
how
we
got
here,
but
I
just
don't
understand
like
how
does
that
help?
I
know
it
helps
a
group
of
people
and
I
know
it
does
and
marginalized
people
can
be
taken
in
and
I
just
don't
want
to
keep
marginalizing
marginalized
people
by
rubber,
stamping
things
that
were
that
you
know
people
voted
on.
We
need
to
be
very
inventive
about
what
we
do.
We
have
the
opportunity
to
be
very
inventive.
We
can
create
some
things
that
nobody
else
has
done
and
I'm
not
saying
anything
that
working
group
was
highly
effective.
I
What
you
said
was
very
great,
I
just
needed
to
know
and
then,
where
now
I'm
finding
out,
we
have
emails
coming
through.
We
don't
know
what's
going
on
and
you
cannot
make
an
educated
decision
about
something
that
you
don't
know-
and
that's
just
my
last
word
on
that
and
I
do
agree
with
daniel
young
and
brandon
oliver
as
a
black
person
here,
because
it's
10
million
dollars
given
to
something
and
nobody
gave
the
black
community
10
million
ever
to
do
anything
with.
I
But
I
just
want
us
to
be
very
enlightened
with
what
we're
dealing
with
here
and
I
don't
think
we
get
the
full
girth
of
what's
going
on.
We
kind
of
we're
jumping
out
into
a
sea
and
we
can't
be
a
castaway
because
you're
going
to
go
out
into
a
sea
one
day,
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
roll
yourself
back
from.
N
Thank
you
so
much.
The
points
are
valid.
Thank
you
for
sharing
those
these
these
are.
I
see
that
there
are
hands
up
on
this
topic,
the
the,
but
please
understand
that
these
are
not
mutually
exclusive
exclusive
issues
that
that
we
can.
The
reason
that
this
is
coming
to
head
is
because
I
created
a
work
group
for
it
when,
when
when
it
was
brought
up
that
what
did
we
want
to
work
on?
N
This
was
a
thing
I
want
to
work
on
and
I
worked
on
it,
and
this
is
what
we've
produced
with
the
work
and
and
and
if
we
want
to
work
on
reparations,
then,
let's
work,
you
know,
work
on
reparations
with
that
group
and
that's
and
that's
totally
fine.
The
10
million
dollars
is
federal
money.
That's
the
earmark
for
that.
It's
not
it's,
not
my
personal
money
that
I'm
spending
on
one
group
versus
the
other,
I'm
sorry
to
be
somewhat
caddy
about
that,
but
I
absolutely
understand
the
the
the
the
frustration
about.
N
Where
is
where's
the
funding
for
the
right
place.
These
are
separate
issues
from
what
we're
dealing.
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
give
people
a
place
to
lay
down
with
this
recommendation
to
the
city
that
they
won't
be.
You
know,
lighted
in
the
face
and
moved
moved
along
that
they
have
a
home,
that
you
know
a
stationary
place
that
they
can
be
met
and
protected.
That's
what
I
can
say
to
redirect.
I
saw
commissioner
coy.
I
saw
your
hand
up,
but
I
believe
that
commissioner
chris
had
his
up.
First.
O
So
I
had
a
clarifying
statement
in
this
this
thing
that
we
want
to
sign
as
a
recommendation
and
send
a
city
council
in
my
mind,
removing
or
requesting
the
removal
of
the
the
ordinance.
That
means
people
can't
sleep
it
that
says
people
can't
sleep
at
parks.
It
very
simply
gives
one
less
opportunity
to
harass
someone
who.
O
It's
like
the
brake
light
clinic
that
a
local
organization
did
and
they
had
this
brake
light
clinic
where
people
come
in
and
they
they
get
their
brake
lights
changed,
and
the
idea
was
that
if
you
fix
the
brake
light,
it
doesn't
solve
any
problems,
but
it
gave
one
less
reason
that
that
person
might
be
pulled
over
and
harassed.
So
if
we
remove
the
the
the
law,
the
broken
law
which
is
leaving
at
a
at
a
public
park,
then
that's
one
less
reason
that
that
person
might
get
harassed.
O
So
we
can't
solve
the
problem
yet,
but
we're
moving.
One
last
reason:
I
I
don't
know
if
that
helps,
and
the
other
thing
I
had
was
that
I
it's
something
it
was
based
on
something
that
delores
had
mentioned,
and
I'm
really
glad
you
did
because
I
looked
into
this
since
our
last
meeting.
It's
my
understanding.
The
way
that
the
law
is
written,
the
like
public
meeting
laws
that
actually
all
of
our
email
communications
in
between
us,
yes,
even
in
the
working
groups,
are
actually
public
records.
F
O
O
The
or
not
you
you
said
about
the
working
groups,
how
it's
not
public
record
and
that's.
I
think
I
think
it's
an
idea
that
we've
all
had,
but
I
looked
into
it
in
between
our
last
meeting
and
now
and
I
think
the
I
think
the
idea
that
we
all
have
that
those
are
not
public
record
is
is
false.
I
think
all
of
our
emails
between
each
other,
about
whatever
work
we're
doing
for
the
hrca
is
actually
public
record.
I
think
it's
an
interpretation
of
the
law
that
somebody's
misinterpreted.
I
O
Yeah
but
yeah,
I
think,
before
before
we
had
been
told
that
that
stuff
was
not
public
record
like
if
we
have
these
conversations
between
emails.
If
we
don't
meet
a
quorum
for
us,
then
they're
not
public
record,
but
they
I've
looked
into
stuff
outside
of
this
and
I'm
actually
pretty
sure
they
are
public
record.
M
He's
not
on
a
call
tonight,
but
I
think
the
idea
was
that
the
working
groups
would
get
together
and
have
a
conversation
as
opposed
to
changing
emails.
For
that
very
reason
that,
because
if
you
are
exchanging
emails
and
liberating,
I
do
think
that
will
become
a
public
record.
A
A
Somebody
loses
their
home
and
their
home
is
decimated
and,
and
they
have
to
be
out
on
the
street
and
the
city
of
asheville
has
an
ordinance
that
says
that
they
have
to
be
cleared
out
in
inclement
weather
or
if
inclement
weather
is
coming
in,
which
essentially
launched
this
working
group
into
effect
and
inclement
weather
and
climate
change
doesn't
wait
for
anyone
and
it's
not
waiting
for
anyone
and
and
as
a
human
relations
issue
and
perspective.
A
It
is
one
that
is
sees
no
color
lines
and
is
important
to
everyone,
because
we
are
all
going
to
be
impacted
by
climate
change
and
right
now
the
people
that
are
exposed
to
inclement
weather
unsheltered
people
are
going
to
be
impacted
the
most
by
it.
And
so
that's.
A
What's
going
on
with
houses
working
group
recommendation
item
two,
we
do
have
a
recommendation
on
the
board
in
relation
to
community
advocacy,
to
hold
accountability
for
city
funds
in
relation
to
what
had
came
up
for
the
parts
of
recreation,
putting
money
into
all
of
the
non-uh
parks
of
color
and
then
no
money
to
the
parks
of
color
and
the
town.
And
so
we
have
an
accountability
recommendation
item
up
as
well.
So
I
would
like
to
move
forward
with
this
meeting
and
invite
the
opportunity
for
susie
to
read.
N
N
M
N
Okay,
thank
you.
So
I
am
reading
the
recommendation.
N
That
needs
to
be
updated,
according
to
commissioner
noyes,
to
shorten
the
timeline
to
the
end
of
june.
It's
we.
The
aforementioned
members
of
the
human
relations
commission
of
asheville,
henceforth
known
as
hrca,
stand
in
solidarity
with
the
residents
of
asheville
and
the
houseless
community
affected
by
inhumane
encampment
removal
hereby
offer
a
formal
recommendation
to
the
asheville
city
council.
N
We,
the
aforementioned
members
of
hrca,
strongly
recommend
that
the
asheville
city
council
swiftly
remove
the
following
ordinances:
city
codes,
articles
city
code,
chapter
12,
article
3,
section
12-51
and
section
12-52
immediately
ceasing
encampment
removals
on
city
property.
N
In
addition,
the
aforementioned
members
of
the
hrca
recommend
the
asheville
city
council
redirect
ordinance
enforcement
and
federal
houseless
assistance
funds
to
provide
or
improve
sanitation
receptacles
at
known
encampment
sites.
We,
the
aforementioned
members,
recommend
these
amendments
be
implemented
instead
of
60
days
from
today,.
N
By
june,
30
2021
making
an
update
in
order
to
prevent
residents
and
visitors
in
and
of
asheville
from
potential
and
or
continued
health
and
public
safety
issues,
and
so
that
we
may
move
forward
with
good
faith.
Efforts
supported
by
the
peoples
of
asheville,
the
buncombe
county
commissioners
and
members
of
asheville
city
council.
To
make
the
city
of
asheville
an
equitable
and
more
inclusive
place
for
all.
A
A
motion
to
approve:
can
I
get
a
second
second?
Second,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Roll
call
vote,
commissioner.
D
I
At
this
time,
let
me
put
my
face
on
camera
because
I
know
somebody's
gonna
screenshot
this
for
a
media
event.
So
at
this
time
I
am
really
knowing
this
issue,
and
let
me
tell
you
why
it
is
because
we
don't,
as
a
board,
know
exactly
what
is
the
fruition.
We
just
now
got
public
comment
on
things
that
we
didn't
all
have
the
ability
to
see.
I
am
not
comfortable
as
a
board
recommending
to
things
the
city
council
that
is
not
truly
equitable
to
the
people
here
of
asheville.
I
So
let
me
give
you
a
little
point
about
homelessness
here
in
asheville,
black
homelessness
is
not
something
that
is
talked
about,
because
our
people
absorb
the
homelessness
of
our
people.
We
have
black
homeless
people
houseless
people,
so
these
issues
are
not
talked
about.
There
was
10
million
dollars
given
from
city
council
about
this
issue.
I
think
that,
and
just
like
it
was
told
that
that
provision
was
written
before
city
council
voted,
and
I
don't
want
to
always
be.
I
We
don't
need
as
a
board
to
keep
rubber
stamping
something.
That's
already
happening
come
up
with
something
new.
We
need
to
come
up
with
something
that
really
changes
the
life
of
people.
I
don't
think
this
is
it
so
with
that
being
said,
and
that's
my
explanation
for
saying
no
and
I
gotta
say
no
to
that,
because
it's
not
helping
people
who
look
like
me,
because
people
who
look
like
me,
we
have
to
live
with
our
mothers
and
our
fathers
and
our
our
cousins
and
our
aunts
and
uncles.
I
D
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Chandler.
N
C
There's
uncertainty
about
whether
or
not
we
should
be
having
sub
groups
working.
There's
a
that's
a
christmas
tree.
We
can't
they're
working
through
here
in
the
office
divide
the
world.
You
have
to
have
something
you
have
to
have
working
groups.
How
do
you
have
working
groups
and
and
express
where
they
come
up
with?
C
I
don't
want
to
pretend
that's,
not
a
problem.
The
other
thing
about
the
language
that
since
I've
been
since
the
1960s,
we
always
had
words
really
meant
black,
but
don't
say
that
some
people
think
conclusion
and
echo
they
mean
taking
care
of
the
problems
that
black
people
and,
if
that's
not
the
case,
then
we
ought
to
say
that's
not
the
case.
C
So
I'm
saying
there's
a
lot
of
unspoken
things
going
on
here,
but
I
vote.
Yes,
I
don't
want
to
collude
with
the
unspoken
things
that's
going
on,
there's
a
tendency
to
hear
a
black
fake,
but
anyone
who
comes
down
you
got
to
be
given
the
first
shot
of
it.
C
I
don't
know
if
people
understand
that
my
money
comes
down
as
fair
springs
are
attached
to
it,
and
sometimes
it
doesn't
include
us
that
might
be
quite
fun
for
you
by
the
time
we
hear
money's
coming.
We
want
to
know
why
aren't
we
involved
because
the
people
that
decided
to
give
money-
they
even
have
us
in
mind
they
did
not
have
black
people
in
line.
That's
why
we're
not
getting
it?
C
They
didn't
have
this
in
mind.
To
start
with
that
money
was
their
mark
or
something
as
this
chandler
she's
working
on
money's
already
earmarked
for
homelessness.
That
doesn't
say
anything
about
black
people.
C
So
I'm
just
saying
daniel
there
will
be
a
people
being
upset
and
brokenhearted
unless
we
start
acknowledging.
What's
really
going
on
this
week,.
G
I
vote
yes
with
the,
with
the
caveat
that
I
just
want
to
say
that
what
dolores
said,
mr
davidson
said,
I
think,
are
valid
points.
I'm
still
a
yes,
but
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
what
they
bring
to
the
table
is
valid.
D
J
I'm
gonna
vote
no
because
just
as
it's
been
mentioned
with
the
concerns,
I
just
feel
you
know
out
of
the
loop
of
recommendations
just
constantly
coming
up
with
this
board
and
there's
no
real
transparency
as
far
as
being
a
a
full
commission-
and
I
just
need
more
clarity.
K
Yes,
I
work
my
day.
Job
is
working
for
a
non-profit
that
deals
with
homelessness,
houselessness,
and
so
I
feel
like
there's
a
conflict
of
interest,
so
I
am
going
to
abstain
from
this
vote.
Thank
you.
A
A
E
F
E
K
I
don't
have
personal
issues
and
since
my
abs
would
be
counted
as
a
yes,
I
am
going
to
kind
of
ditto
my
buddy
tiffany
and
say
I
would
like
to
have
more
contemporaneous
on
this
issue
before
we
actually
move
to
recommend
to
strike
down
ordinances.
K
I
think
the
group
has
done
a
great
job
and
I
agree
with
them
in
concept
and
theory,
but
I
really
don't
feel
that
that
I
I'm
seeing
this
from
a
variety
of
sides,
and
I
wish
that
I
think
that
maybe
we
could
I'm
just
gonna
have
to
I'm
gonna
have
to
vote.
No.
Thank
you.
B
B
And
that
at
this
time
I
am
just
not
confident
and
being
able
to
explain
what
is
going
on
here
recommending,
so
if
I
can
have
a
little
more
time
I'll
result.
Thank
you.
A
We
do
not
have
quorum,
and
so
that
is
a
no
vote
on
the
houses
recommendation.
Hustlers
group
recommendation
item
one.
A
We
encourage
you
to
maybe
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
and
explore
this
in
a
different
way
and
then
maybe
we
can
vote
on
putting
it
on
to
a
future
agenda
item
where
we
can
have
a
more
open
discussion
here
in
the
hrca
and
is
that,
okay
with
you.
N
Is
it
is
that
directed
at
me?
Yes,
okay
is
the
the
quorum
is.
If
we
have
70
of
people
present.
Is
that
right,
no.
A
It's
for
the
commission
itself,
so
we
would
need
nine
people.
I
believe.
N
Oh
okay,
okay,
yeah,
that's
yeah!.
A
The
second
recommendation
from
the
houseless
working
group
is
something
that
we
have
explored
before
and
we
did
go
over
in
february
when
it
happened
within
an
email
that
was
read
out
loud
with
the
commission
in
regards
to
houseless
campaign,
encampment
removal
in
the
event
of
inclement
weather,
and
this
is
solely
just
to
address
that
so
that
nobody
is
moved
out
of
any
place
for
three
days
prior
or
three
days
after
inclement
weather,
councilwoman,
remini.
E
I
wanted
to
ask
a
question
the
way
that
I
counted
the
votes
just
then
it
seemed
that
the
motion
failed,
not
that
you
didn't
have
a
quorum,
because
it
seems
that
you
still
have
a
quorum
of
this
group
that
can
vote
just
that.
The
not
a
majority
of
folks
voted
to
pass.
It
is
that
correct
or.
N
Yes
correct:
that's
what-
and
I
also
have
that
chairwoman
rodriguez
did
not
vote.
A
Oh,
thank
you
pardon
me
my
my
vote
was
the
yes
vote.
N
I
What
we
had
was
some
guesses
with
people
who
said
that
they
didn't
want
to
vote
either
way,
but
they
understood
so
that
lets.
You
know
that
there's
some
bad
feelings
with
this.
A
No,
it's
not
because
we
still
need
nine
votes
to
pass.
No,
we
need.
A
Because
our
because
our
commission
is
sixteen
and.
M
N
Five
people
who
are
voting
no-
and
I
provided
this
recommendation
a
week
before
this
meeting,
so
that
we
could
do
research
and
look
into
it.
Is
there
any
more
information
I
can
provide
you
that
would
make
you
feel
better
about
the
recommendation.
F
A
We
have
six
to
five,
and
so
then
that
would
mean
that
the
recommendation
pardon
me,
commissioner,.
A
Point
of
order-
I
was
asking
kim
question
since
we
have,
since
we
have
a
majority
vote
in
here,
then
that
would
mean
that
this
recommendation
would
pass
procedurally.
A
All
right!
Well
then,
I
rescind
my
my
previous
comment
and
and
continue
forward
with
putting
fourth
of
houseless
working
group
recommendation
item
one
to
city
council
to
be
read
aloud
in
the
next
city
council
meeting.
Can.
A
Correct
absolutely
moving
on,
as
are
we
complete
with
that
councilwoman
rooney.
A
Houseless
group
recommendation
item
two
in
relation
to
climate
change
affecting
the
house's
community
of
asheville.
We
had
discussed
this.
What
had
happened
with
the
encampment
removal
that
actually
went
nationwide
and
put
asheville
into
a
light
that
was
very
disheartening,
with
the
inhumane
way
that
humans
were
treated
in
the
event
of
inclement
weather
within
hours
of
a
50
mile
an
hour
snowstorm
a
houseless,
encampment
removal.
Thank
you,
mr
white.
A
A
We
initiated
action
here
with
the
hrca
to
get
to
the
bottom
of
what
happened
we
reached
out
to
the
civil
rights
division
of
d.o.t.
We
thank
you.
Councilwoman.
A
We
reached
out
to
the
to
the
civil
rights
division
of
the
d.o.t,
who
then
gave
us
the
name
of
the
person
who
made
that
call
and
through
those
findings
we
set
forth
this
recommendation.
A
The
recommendation
is
as
follows:
we,
the
aforementioned
members
of
the
human
relations
commission
of
asheville,
henceforth
known
as
hrca,
stand
in
solidarity
with
the
residents
of
asheville.
The
hrca
houseless
working
group
and
the
houses
community
affected
by
inhumane
houseless
encampment
removal
proceeding
an
event
of
inclement
weather
that
was
witnessed
worldwide
on
february
1st
2021
in
the
city
of
asheville.
A
We,
the
aforementioned
members
of
the
hrca,
recommend
these
amendments
be
implemented
no
later
than
30
days
from
today,
in
order
to
prevent
residents
and
visitors
in
and
of
asheville
from
potential
and
or
continued
health
and
public
safety
issues,
so
that
we
may
all
move
forward
with
good
faith
efforts
supported
by
the
peoples
of
asheville,
the
buncombe
county
commissioners
and
members
of
the
asheville
city
council
to
make
the
city
of
asheville
an
equitable
and
more
inclusive
place
for
all
motion
on
the
table.
Can
I
get
a
second.
D
P
K
N
This
this
particular
article
two
amendment
is
in
conjunction
with
that,
because,
because
when
there
is
a
cold
purple,
because
it's
below
freezing,
not
everyone
makes
it
into
a
shelter
for
the
evening,
so
it
is
in
conjunction
with
those
it
doesn't
suit.
You
serpent.
I
I
can't
raise
my
hand,
excuse
me
for
interjecting
again,
but
I
feel
some
type
of
way,
because
I
didn't
hear
about
marginalized
people.
All
I
heard
was
we're
taking
care
of
marginal
by
senate.
I
get
so
tired
of
people
talking
to
people
who
are
marginalized
when
you're
marginalized.
You
don't
talk
to
people,
you
go
out
here
and
you
solve
their
problems.
I
You
get
rid
of
them,
so
if
our
board
is
going
to
only
rubber
stamp
something
that
does
nothing.
What
is
the
whole
purpose
of
us
at
the
end
of
the
day?
I
don't
want
to
keep
talking
about
how
to
keep
people
marginalized,
because
that's
what
we're
doing
what
we're
doing
is
saying.
What's
the
rubber
stamp
events
immensely
anybody
else,
who's
been
part
of
this
process.
All
these
times
and
they've
been
giving
all
this
money
and
what
have
they
sold?
I
A
A
No
a
point
of
order,
point
of
order,
please,
commissioner
venable
I'd
like
to
put
this
to
a
vote.
This
is
a
human
relations
commission.
This
is
well
within
the
scope.
A
A
housing
working
group,
houseless
working
group
recommendation
item
two
roll
call
vote.
Commissioner
venable,
the
arne.
I
D
C
Well,
there's
my
observation
apparently,
and
the
lord
is
saying.
C
A
I
hardly
think
that
protecting
people
in
the
event
of
inclement
weather
is
redundant
or
needs
to
be.
I'm
gonna
do.
C
C
C
C
H
Excuse
me,
this
is
christina
harris.
I
would
just
like
to
speak
up
a
little
bit
here
that
if
you
know
language
is
going
to
be
used
that
you
know
can
be
taken
in
the
wrong
light.
We,
I
will
mute
you,
so
I
would
like
for
everyone
to
have
a
mutual
respect.
While
we
kind
of
discuss
these
really
difficult
topics.
H
So
please,
if
you
have
any
questions,
put
them
in
the
comment.
I'm
very
happy
to
address
those,
but
I
would
like
this
meeting
to
stay.
You
know
I
would
just
like
everyone
to
work
through
this.
I
know
it's
very
difficult,
not
overshadowing
that
at
all,
but
I
would
greatly
appreciate
that
is.
A
A
Thank
you
very
much
christina
for
saying
that
thank.
F
A
A
Commissioner
jones,
because
there
is
no
vote,
that
equates
as
an
abstention,
which
is
a
yes
vote.
F
G
H
P
I'm
voting
noah
until
I
get
some
further
understanding
what
we're
voting
on
okay,
because
I
I
don't
understand
this-
can
somebody
tell
me
what
what?
What
are
we
trying
to
pass.
A
We're
voting
on
the.
A
So
if
it's
going
to
be
a
big
50
mile,
an
hour
snowstorm
to
not
move
the
houseless
people
or
anybody
that
is
put
out
on
the
street
for
circumstances
beyond
their.
P
K
A
And
myself,
yes-
and
that
is
a
majority
vote
past
and
thank
you
all
for
your
participation
and
willingness
to
discuss
these
difficult
subjects
with
such
candor
and
honesty.
Chair.
A
We
do
have
one
more
recommendation
on
the
table
with
commissioner
young
in
regards
to
community
advocacy
relating
to
accountability
for
the
refurbishing
of
the
martin
luther
king
community
center
and
a
list
of
items
that
need
to
be
refurbished
for
the
martin
luther
king
community
center.
Commissioner
young,
would
you
like
to
expand
on
that.
P
O
O
P
A
O
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I'm
clear
on
this.
The
thing
that
we
were
supposed
to
vote
on
just
now
was
for
the
city
to
fund
repairing
of
the
park
or
community
center,
and
now
we're
we're
not
going
to
vote
on
that,
because
I
still,
I
don't
understand
why
we're
not
going
to
vote
on
that.
It
seems
like
a
good
idea
to
tell
the
city
to
fund.
You
know
re-fixing
up
a
community
center.
P
Well,
let
me
speak
on
this,
so
everybody
can
get
understanding
I
reached
out
to
the
martin
luther
king
committee.
They
are
helping
with
this
situation.
The
city
has
helped
so
we
we
already
have
have
fixed
this
problem.
The
community
is
in
engaging
and
helping
also,
so
I
feel
that
this
situation
has
already
been
addressed
and
has
been
is
working
on,
so
I
mean.
O
Are
there
any
other,
similar
community
centers
that
could
use
this
kind
of
funding
other
than
the
martin
luther
king.
P
O
P
I
mean
if
we're
gonna
vote,
parts
of
recreation
got
that
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
nothing
came
towards
us.
So
the
city
is
aware
of
that.
What
is
the
city
much
gonna
do
about
this
when
they
doing.
F
P
A
Well,
this
is
the
reason
for
this
recommendation
is
to
hold
the
city
accountable.
So
when
we
provide
recommendations
like
this
to
the
city,
then
it's
on
public
record
that
we
see
what
they're
doing
and
they're
not
going
to
get
away
with
it,
and
so
that's
how
we
can
use
these
recommendations
with
the
hrca
to
hold
the
city
accountable
for
inequitable
policy
and
practices.
K
We
can
also
acknowledge
that
the
city
has
done
this
and
not
necessarily
thank
them
because
they
shouldn't
have
done
it,
but
we
can
acknowledge
that
they've
done
it,
and
and
since
they
continue
to
do
this
in
black
communities,
and
then
we
can
get
more
information
about
what
needs
to
happen
for
refurbishment
and
then
we
can
have
a.
We
can
have
dialogues
about
that.
J
I
agree
with
chris,
and
I
understand
that
commissioner
young
wants
to
pull
the
recommendation
off
the
table
at
this
time
and
then
we
visit
how
we
could
hold
the
city
accountable
for
other
parts.
That's
been
neglected,
but
right
now,
at
this
time
the
city
has
stepped
up
to
support
those
specific
efforts
with
the
mlk
park.
J
So
I
agree
with
what
commissioner
weinbrenner
has
just
suggested,
that
we
continue
the
conversation,
but
we
move
forward
at
this
time.
K
I'll
be
glad
to
draft
a
letter
and
present
it
to
you
guys,
and
we
can
words
I
can
wordsmith
it
and
daniel.
If
you
don't
mind
I'll
get
with
you
and
is,
if
I
can
email
you
and
get
some
more
information
that
would
be.
F
A
Thank
you
very
much,
commissioner
juan
brenner.
I
appreciate
those
words,
commissioner
young,
would
you
like
to
respond.
P
Yeah
I
appreciate
everybody's
support.
Whatever
we
can
do,
I'm
with
it.
F
P
You
I
got
one
more
question
to
ask:
how
do
we
address
the
committee
that
allowed
this
to
happen
because
it
went
it
wasn't
just
the
city,
it
was
the
people,
that's
on
the
same
committee
as
us.
If
they're
allowing
this
to
happen,
they
for
me,
it
seemed
like
it
was.
It
was
intentional.
P
It
wasn't
something
that
they
wasn't
aware
of
something
that
they
did
intentionally
I'll
sit
in
on
the
meeting,
I
asked
questions
multiple
times
and
each
time
I
asked
was
any
of
this
money
going
to
the
black
community.
It
was
like
I
was
being
singled
out.
I
asked
again
just
for
the
record
and
they
sent
me
a
link
right
here.
You
go
foul
for
yourself
and
if
that's
what
we're
doing
as
a
community
as
a
committee,
they
don't
need
to
be
there.
They
don't
need
to
be
there.
P
D
A
Thank
you,
commissioner
young.
I
think
it
might
be
also
important
to
put
into
for
public
record
that
these
meetings
aren't
available
widely
available
for
us
to
go
to
and
to
make
sure
that
people
are
able
to
be
held
accountable
for
an
equitable
practices
and
discussions
and-
and
you
know
as
as,
as
is
said,
nothing
nothing
about
us
without
us,
and
if
these
meetings
are
happening
without
the
people
that
are
most
impacted
involved
and
that's
something
that
we
really
need
to
take.
A
look
at
and
and
handle.
J
Well,
honestly,
commissioner,
coit
had
her
hand
up
first
and
then
I
can
go,
but
it
is
in
relation
to
this
particular
subject.
J
J
We
can
always
sit
at
it
used
to
be
around
six
o'clock
every
second
tuesday,
but
it
may
have
changed,
but
I
would
recommend
that
we
kind
of
do
that,
especially
if
you
want
to
begin
to
hold
individuals
accountable
and
certain
committees
in
certain
boards.
We
should
observe
more
of
what
they're
doing
and
also
read
read
up
on
some
of
their
minutes.
J
P
Yeses
contain
parts
and
recreation
I
just
I
mean
I
got
on
the
group.
Just
was
listening
to
the
stuff
and
I
sent
them
like
a
week
after
they
they're
making
upgrades
for
the
lake,
julian
yeah
library
and
some
more
parks
and
recreations,
and
I
think
all
the
money
that
they
got.
Some
of
that
could
be
used
for
our
community
center.
J
A
Access,
I
believe
I
believe,
commissioner
quite
was
next.
Commissioner
donald
venable.
O
Absolutely
I
just
I
wanted
to
thank
mr
young,
I
think
you're
bringing
up
something
that
absolutely
needs
to
be
discussed,
because
we
can
apply
this,
not
the
city,
not
spending
money,
specifically
in
black
communities.
We
can
apply
this
to
many
other
things,
including
the
school.
O
The
schools
not
having
work
done
to
them
is
one
of
the
reasons
that
the
city
wants
to
shut
that
one
down,
and
it
really
seems
like
we
have
another
situation
where
the
city's
chosen
not
to
spend
money
in
the
black
community.
So
thank
you,
mr
young,
for
bringing
this
up,
and
I
think
this
is
something
we'll
be
able
to
apply
to
lots
of
other
areas.
I
So
let
me
just
say
something
because
I
can't
even
control,
what's
going
on
media
wise
with
this
situation,
I'm
getting
put
on
mics
that
I
did
not
adhere
to.
So
I
just
want
to
say
something:
I
don't
care
what
people
heard,
because
anything
that
people
heard.
I
meant
that,
let
me
tell
you
something
as
a
black
person
here
in
asheville
that
grew
up
here.
I
I
So
that's
being
said,
I
don't
even
know
what's
going
because
I'm
very
I
mean
people
know
what
happened
with
me
with
the
police
department.
I
don't
even
know
would
be
following
me
sometimes
and
how
media
gets
overtaken.
That's
why
I
I'm
part
of
say
no
to
social
media,
because
if
you
get
on
social
media,
you
will
be,
you
can
be
manipulated.
We
see
that
with
the
gas
companies,
so
you
can't
do
everything
with
everybody,
but
just
know
one
thing
and
yeah
you
heard
me
say
I
probably
did
excuse
me.
I
But
what
I'm
trying
to
say
to
y'all
is
this.
As
a
boy,
you
have
more
opportunity
to
solve
people
problems
than
anything.
If
you
don't
solve
people's
problems,
where
they're
at
you're
not
going
to
solve
them
in
other
places,
this
board
is
supposed
to
solve
people's
problems
where
they're
at
we're
not
talking
about
the
future.
We're
talking
about
right
now,
where
they're
at
I
have
fought
for
so
long,
and
I've
been
to
one
of
our
oldest
members
outside
of
davidson
jones
and
chris
weinberger
on
this
board.
I
I
just
got
reappointed,
and
I
said
what
I
said
didn't
even
know-
and
this
was
talking
about
the
constructs
of
how
these
things
work.
I
don't
want
to
meet
in
in
virtual
realities,
because
we
all
should
have
been
vaccinated
now
as
part
of
a
community
that
is
equitable
because
you
want
to
save
people's
lives.
So
I
want
to
have
no
more
of
these
virtual
meetings.
I
want
to
come
see
you
face
to
face,
so
people
can
see
what
I'm
saying
outside
of
some
dynamic.
I
can't
control.
I
These
are
things
that
are
marginalized
people
issues,
everybody
don't
know
how
to
work
a
computer
or
how
to
access
the
hands
raised
and
all
these
crazy
things
and
as
a
board,
we
should
not
be
conducive
in
that
measure.
We
should
be
the
people
going
out
here
talking
to
people
doing
the
work
doing
all
of
this.
Instead,
what
we're
doing
is
prophesizing
people's
intentions.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
very
much,
commissioner
venable.
We
appreciate
what
you're
saying
we
do
need
to
continue
on
with
the
meeting
and
continue
on
to
unfinished
business
and
the
next
item
up
on
unfinished
business
is
to.
G
A
A
K
A
Remember
when
we
were
meeting
live
and
right
in
the
beginning,
we
were.
We
were
going
until
about
eight
o'clock
in
the
first
year
and
such,
and
so
we
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
back,
because
somehow
it
got
cut
to
7
30
and
we
used
to
go
longer
in
the
live
meetings.
And
I
was
just
wondering
if
we
can
get
back
to
that.
J
But
I
I
do
say
I
like
the
idea
of
two
hours,
but
my
thing
is:
I'm
solutions
oriented,
so
I
need
the
meetings
to
be
productive.
J
I
don't
want
to
feel
like
I'm
sideswiped
with
new
information,
that
I
am
encouraged
to
vote
on
without
any
type
of
background
information
or
conversation.
So
if
we
do
agree
to
go
to
two
hours,
could
we
also
discuss
ways
in
which
we're
going
to
keep
each
other
abreast
and
communicated
prior
to
a
vote
at
a
meeting
and
or
recommendation.
A
Absolutely
I
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
wanted
to
open
up
the
meeting
time,
so
we
do
have
an
ample
time
to
discuss
and
do
you
have
the
opportunity
to
really
get
into
the
deeper
issues
that
are
coming
up
in
the
meeting,
and
you
know
if
we
need
to
do
it
publicly.
We
do
it
publicly.
A
So
I
think
that's
important,
and
that
goes
back
to
the
working
group
thing
where
we
cannot
work
and
function
effectively
as
a
commission
without
working
groups,
it
is
ineffective
to
bring
every
single
issue
to
the
group
and
then
discuss
it
and
determine
it
and
do
all
of
the
things
and
what
working
groups
function,
as
are
specific
issues
and
solution-oriented
groups
of
people
that
can
bring
that
information
into
the
human
relations
commission.
A
So
I
would
like
to
challenge
the
narrative
that
working
groups
are
operating
in
secret
when
at
any
time
anybody
can
email
anybody,
that's
in
lead
of
a
working
group
and
go
hey.
Can
I
sit
in
in
your
next
meeting?
I
want
to
know
what's
going
on,
because
all
of
the
working
groups
are
open
to
all
of
us.
A
It's
a
collaboration
and
we're
here
to
work
on
a
team
and
if
we're
not
working
as
a
team
for
the
all
of
the
city
of
asheville,
then
it's
just
us
and
we're
not
here
for
justice,
and
that
is
that
is
taking
out
of
alignment.
What
human
relations
really
are.
And
so
I
I
hear
you
and
I
get
it,
and
I
think
that
it's
important
to
make
that
distinction
of
making
sure
that
we're
our
working
groups
do
work
together
effectively
and
efficiently.
A
So
we
as
a
commission
can
work
together
effectively
and
efficiently
and
address
the
issues
that
come
to
us
so
that
we
can
recommend
them
to
city
council
so
that
we
can
hold
the
city
and
city
government
accountable
for
all
of
the
things
that
we've
been
discussing
this
whole
meeting.
So
I
think
that
that
is
an
important
thing
to
bring
up
and
I'm
I'm
passionate
about
making
sure
that
we
work
together
as
a
cohesive
group
with
respect
to
the
working
groups
that
are
doing
the
work
so
that
we
all
don't
have
to
you.
J
Know
thank
you
for
that
clarification
chairwoman.
J
J
D
N
Commission
chairwoman,
maya,
please,
commissioner,
I
have.
I
have
two
questions
around
that
because
it's
my
understanding
that
we
are
not
able
are
those
specific
instructions
to
not
email
everyone,
the
information
that
we
have,
because
that
could
be
considered
a
quorum
and
it
becomes
public
information.
How
do
we
communicate
this
in
advance
when
I
sent
out
this
recommendation
a
week
in
advance
for
people
to
review
and
do
research
and
look
for
what
they
wanted
to
know
about
it?
N
I
specifically
used
the
instruction
that
I
was
given
that
we
cannot
communicate
about
it
by
email
or
otherwise.
What
else
can
we
do
outside
of
working
group
for
the
whole
commission
without
violating
that
sunshine
clause?
And
my
second
thing
is:
is
there
anybody
else
who
wants
to
get
on
the
working
group
we
have
like
four
members.
We
can
hold
three
more.
Anybody
else
want
to
get.
I
On
this,
you
really
cannot
that's
the
thing
that
I'll
be
talking
to
y'all
about.
You
cannot
go
out
here
and
then
you
perform
these
work
on
groups,
everybody
get
these
working
groups
and
then
they
send
something
to
us
as
a
board
and
act
like
we're
supposed
to
rub
or
snap
it
just
because
whatever
in
that
working
group
agreed
with
it.
I
Would
not
because
I'm
gonna
tell
you
why
cause!
I
know
that
working
group
has
nothing
to
do
with
people
who
look
like
me.
That's
what
I'm
telling
you!
So,
if
we're
talking
about
being
a
human
relations
commission,
you
cannot
go
out
here
and
subjugate
one
group
of
people
and
then
expect
taxpayers
and
city
councillors
to
come
here
and
acknowledge
that.
K
One
thing
that
I
found
helpful:
our
community
engagement
work
group
is
we,
I
basically
took
minutes
and
I
submitted
them
to
tanya
and
to
brandon.
K
A
Absolutely
anything
that
we
want
to
be
put
in
to
put
in
public
record
will
be
put
on
the
city
website
and
so
minutes
documents
everything
that
we
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
knows
it
will
be
put
into
the
city
website
for
review.
K
Different
people
in
our
commission
have
different
different
things
going
in
their
lives
and
not
everybody
is
able
to
really
just
because
you
send
and
I'm
not
being
critical
of
you,
I'm
just
letting
you
know
just
because
you
send
it
out,
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
people
might
have
the
time
to
look
up
the
exact
statutes
and
clauses
and
things
like
that.
It's
it's
an
unfortunate
truth,
so
some
things
do
need
to
be.
Some
information
does
need
to
be
conveyed
in
these
meetings
and
I
think
with
something
as
big
as
recommendations
to
city
council.
K
I
think
that
there
should
be
a
build
up
to
that.
We
fast-tracked
the
recommendation
to
for
the
city
council
to
uphold
the
dance
monument
task
force.
That
recommendation
got
fast-tracked
because
it
was
time
sensitive,
and
I
know
that
other
issues
are
time
sensitive,
but
I
feel,
like
the
commission
needs
on
the
big
stuff.
I
think
that
it
needs
to
be
built.
K
K
J
J
N
Okay,
I
was
wondering
about
extending
the
meeting
length
if
we
had,
instead
of
extending
it
like
you,
were
suggesting
commercial
double
o
to
be
productive
in
the
time
that
we
do
spend.
N
I
thought
we
had,
but
so
sorry
side
point,
but
is:
is
there
a
way
that
we
can
structure
the
meeting
so
that
when
we
have
an
item,
if
we're
able
to
see
each
other's
notes
from
work
groups
or
whatever
is
going
on
before
we
come
to
the
meeting
with
you
know
that
information,
the
questions
in
mind,
discuss
them
in
the
meeting
and
have
a
vote.
That,
maybe
is
I
mean,
definitely
a
piece
of
white
supremacy
culture,
but
have
like
times
that
we
flow
through
stuff
as
a
or
just
leave
it
open.
J
I
agree
I'm
open
to
whatever
works
honestly
and
when
I
say
productive
I
just
mean
you
know
in
harmony
with
one
one
another,
because
there's
going
to
be
hard
conversations
and
we
should
be
able
to
work
through
that.
I
I
also
have
something
to
say
on
that
issue
because
I'm
always
put
in
a
position
where
I'm
always
the
evil
one
or
whatever
the
one.
That
always
something-
and
I
say
no
because
I
know
what
it's
like
to
be
here,
because
I
am
from
here
so
don't
ever
get
discouraged
because
I
say
no,
I
say
no,
because
if
you
don't
know
what
you're
talking
about,
why
should
I
jump
on
your
board?
I
I'm
not
interested
in
that
because
if
I
was
addressing
you
to
you
I
would
say
your
name
susie,
I
didn't
say
your
name.
I
just
said
I'm
not
here
to
rub
a
stamp,
the
the
the
the
the
total
deliberation
of
keeping
black
people
and
black
communities
out
of
conversation.
This
is
what
I
do.
I
don't
make
a
living
off
of
it.
I
do
this
because
I
care
because
I've
been
affected
and
I
see
my
family
affected.
I
see
my
friends
affected.
I
J
I
Done
and
you
cannot
put
black
people
suffering
in
two
hours,
an
hour
and
a
half
and
no
other
type
of
hours,
so
I
do
feel
that
what
we're
doing
here
is
just
basically
rubber,
stamping
something
and
we're
going
back.
Just
like
we
did
with
that
homeless.
Initiative.
Rubber
stamp
is
something
that
council
already
gave
10
mil
to
who
gave
us
10
meal.
I
Whoever
gave
us
timmy,
they
said
1.2
million
dollars,
and
you
know
what
that's
a
real
talk,
because
nobody,
nobody
gave
nobody
in
the
state
of
north
carolina,
1.2
million
dollars
for
reparations.
They
did
do
that
too.
So,
if
you're
going
to
be
on
this
board,
you
need
to
be
very
equitable
and
educational
about
what
you're
talking
about,
because
you
ain't
going
to
come
to
me
talking
all
kinds
of
crazy
and
think
I'm
a
rubber
stamp,
because
I
know
better.
This
is
what.
I
You
know
what
all
people
say
is
all
she's
I'm
guilty
of
just
being
a
no,
and
you
know
I
hope
people
heard
what
I
said,
because
I
didn't
even
put
my
stuff
on
whatever
I
don't.
Even
I
can't
even
control
what's
going
on
right
now,
but
I'm
glad
because
it
goes
to
show
that
I'm
not
what
people
say.
I
am
I'm
gonna
always
do
what's
right,
because
I
have
to
sleep
here.
One
day
I
gotta
get
buried
in
this
city.
I
My
daddy
just
got
buried
my
husband,
my
daddy,
and
my
husband
died
within
10
days
of
each
other.
You
know
what
I'm
saying
I
got
a
steel
rock,
my
mama's
still
here.
I
gotta
rock
this
out
because
if
I
don't
work
it
out
for
my
family,
they're
gonna
keep
getting
this
generational
harm.
I'm
not
here
for
that.
That's
not
what
I'm
here.
C
C
I
don't
like
to
say
I
feel
you,
but
I
do
and
delores
I
haven't
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
you.
I
care
about
you.
You
could
be
my
daughter,
you're
that
young.
Let
me
ask
you
something:
should.
I
I
think
what's
going
on
here
is
that
people
are
using
black
bodies
to
be
able
to
engage
themselves
in
situations
and
money
situations,
because
I
do
know
that
one
thing
is
that
this
board
had
a
vested
interest,
so
everybody
was
put
on
this
board
from
the
beginning.
When
we
came
on
it,
we
had
veteran
vested
interest
in
this
community,
but
people
were
brought
in
who
had
vested
interests
outside
of
community,
and
I
get
tired
of
rubber-stamping
things
that
don't
talk
about
black
people.
I
C
I
I
I
Yes,
sir,
I'm
going
to
do
that:
okay,
okay,
thank
you
I'll,
be
willing
to
do
that
and
it's
cute
and
please
make
sure-
and
I
just
want
to
say
this
again-
I
do
not
make
apologies
for
my
stances.
I
don't
make
apologies
for
what
I
say,
because
I
can't
because
I'm
not
here
every
day
doing
the
work
that
nobody
else
do
they
get
paid
for
they
get
we'll.
I
A
All
right
trust,
working
group.
I
A
That
and
so
thank
you
very
much.
We
like
to
vote
on
a
potential
meeting
time
change
for
two
hours.
My
motion
on
the
table
can
I
get
a
second
second.
Thank
you.
Roll
call
vote.
M
I
No
because
I'm
not
going
to
devote
no
more
time
than
I
have
to
nobody's
paying
me,
the
abc
board
gets
paid
the
water
authority
and
all
we
do
is
make
recommendations.
So
I'm
not
willing
to
just
waste
no
more
time
on
my
months
like
this,
so
let's
just
keep
it
where
it's
at
it
works
for
every
other
board.
So
let's
just
keep
it
where
it's
at.
We
don't
get
paid
for
this,
and
if
you
really
want
to
be
here,
you
just
volunteer
your
time
because
you
care
about
people.
D
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Chandler.
N
I
have
a
toddler
and
a
pregnant
wife.
I'm
going
to
go
with
no.
G
O
K
A
William
commissioner,
tiffany
doubleo.
C
A
Okay
and
I
vote
yes
motion
denied,
we
will
to
adjourn
since
we've.
A
Gone
over
for
two
and
a
half
two
and
a
half
hours
now
and
we'll
table
the
rest
of
the
agenda
motion
to
begin
next
hrca
agenda
from
where
we
left
off
today.
A
Second,
there's
two
emotions
on
the
table,
so
second
information
to
pick
up
agenda
from
where
we
left
off
today,
next
meeting
seconded
by
commissioner
chandler
roll
call
vote.
A
A
I
D
A
Thank
you
and
commissioner
jones
no
more
voting.
A
All
right-
and
that
is
majority
vote.
Yes,
we
will
be
picking
up
the
agenda
next
from
where
we
left
off
for
next
meeting
and
motion
to
adjourn.
A
K
J
A
Commissioner
jones,
oh
all
right,
that
was
just
one
more
roll
call
vote
just
for
good
measure.
Thank
you
very
much.
All
of
you
for
being
here.
I
love.
I
love
the
way
all
of
you
show
up
and
all
the
capacities
we'll
see
you
next
month
and
we
hope
for
a
public
comment
to
be
here
and
have
an
option
for
that
as
well,
so
be
kind
to
each
other.
Do
good
things
and
we'll
see
you
next
meeting.
Thank
you.