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C
It's
I've
done
this
how
many
times-
and
I
still
will
make
that
mistake
good
morning-
everyone
I'm
shannon
tuck,
I'm
principal
planner
with
the
city's
planning
and
urban
design
department
and
I'd
like
to
welcome
you
to
the
may
20th
2021
design,
review
committee
meeting.
This
is
the
first
meeting
of
this
body
and
since
we
do
not
yet
have
a
chair,
staff
will
help
run
the
meeting
until
the
chair,
and
vice
chair
are
elected
for
those
of
you
who
are
new
to
this
committee.
C
This
is
a
nine
person
committee,
with
eight
seats
appointed
by
the
city
council
from
the
downtown
commission
and
area
or
oshawa
area
riverfront
redevelopment
commission
respectively.
The
ninth
seat
will
be
appointed
by
the
seated
committee
members
and
is
an
at-large
seat.
The
primary
function
of
this
body
is
to
perform
design
review
for
projects
located
in
one
of
the
city's
three
designated
design
review
areas
that
includes
the
downtown,
the
designated
riverfront
and
the
new
hotel
overlay
zoning
districts.
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C
C
855-925-2801
and
entering
code
9410
I'll
read
that
again,
the
number
is
eight
five,
five,
nine
two
five,
two:
eight
zero
one
with
the
code:
nine,
four
one:
zero.
When
we
get
to
the
public
comment
portion
of
the
agenda,
you
may
dial
the
same
number
and
press
star
3.
for
those
of
you
who
are
joining
us
today.
Welcome.
C
I
will
now
go
through
and
introduce
all
the
committee
members
who
are
participating
virtually
please
make
sure
to
mute
your
microphone.
If
you
are
not
speaking
and
when
you
have
a
question
or
would
like
to
speak
unmute
your
microphone,
please
remember
to
mute
your
phone
after
you
are
done.
Speaking
committee
members,
as
I
call
your
name,
please
say
a
quick
hello,
goldstein,
hello,
kimberly
hunter
hello,
steven,
lee
johnson.
C
To
help
our
audience
follow
along
I'll
state,
each
section
of
the
agenda
aloud
and
do
a
vocal
roll
call
for
each
vote.
If
there
is
a
vote
to
be
taken,
this
is
generally
an
organizational
meeting
today,
so
we
may
or
may
not
be
voting
on
some
items.
Additionally,
I
ask
that
committee
members
raise
their
hand
to
speak
and
I'll,
and
we
will
call
upon
you
regarding
presentations.
We
do
not
have
any
formal
presentation
scheduled
for
today.
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C
C
A
Sure
so
I
guess
you
all
have
both
you
have
all
been
involved
in
either
the
riverfront
commission
or
the
downtown
commission
now,
so
some
of
the
things
I
say
might
be
for
the
public
as
well.
It's
just
so
I'm
saying
things
you
already
know.
The
scope
of
this
committee,
as
shannon
said,
will
be
to
review
projects
coming
in
either
riverfront
areas,
design,
review
areas
downtown
or
hotel.
A
So
two
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen
as
shannon
just
said,
and
the
first
thing
I
want
to,
and
I
won't
be
able
to
see
you,
I
still
haven't
figured
there's
a
way
to
see
you,
but
I
haven't
figured
that
out
yet
so
just
somebody
verbally
say
something.
If
you
want
to
stop
me,
we
have
a
home
page
for
this
committee.
If
you
go
to
the
city's
web
page,
I
always
navigate
by
going
to
government
and
then
scrolling
down
and
getting
to
boards
and
commissions.
A
A
We've
got
the
description
of
the
committee,
which
is
from
our
udo
or
unified
development
ordinance.
We
have
the
map
of
the
review
areas
which
I'll
go
over
in
just
a
minute,
and
then
we
have
a
list
of
documents
here
for
you
we
last
year
or
maybe
pre-pandemic
in
19
2019,
we
developed
a
checklist
for
riverfront
development
review.
A
We
also
have
a
downtown
checklist
and
what
we'll
be
working
on
over
the
next
couple
months
is
trying
to
get
everything
for
riverfront
and
downtown
to
be
the
same,
so
that
we're
not
so
that
applicants
are
asked
ask
for
the
same
thing.
I
think
they're
very
close
frankly,
and
I
think
the
riverfront
one
use
the
downtown
checklist.
A
The
riverfront
does
have
this
narrative
piece
I'll
zoom
in
here,
which
I
think
is
really
helpful,
and
we
haven't
been
asking
for
this
in
downtown,
and
we
probably
should
be
so.
I
think
that's
something
we
could
consider
adding
to
the
downtown
guidelines
is
asking
for
a
narrative
of
how
your
project
fits
into
your
area.
A
The
river
district
design
review
guidelines
are
here.
My
understanding
of
these
is
that
they
were
developed
in
the
90s
and
were
put
into
this
really
pretty
format.
Maybe
in
2010
or
so
2010
2013
2013
sounds
right
and
then
I
was
just
going
to
ask.
If
jane
did
you
want
to
talk
at
all
about
these
guidelines
or
tell
your
fellow
committee
members
anything
about
them?.
G
Well,
I
can
only
add
that
they
they
do
deal
with
both
the
french
broad
river
corridor
and
the
swannanoa
river
corridor
and
are
broken
as
this
map
shows
into
specific
areas,
and
it
deals
with
many
of
the
same
things
the
downtown
commission
has
been
dealing
with.
You
know
the
the
windows
awnings
the
materials
used
parking
where
it's
located.
G
It
is
a
historic
district
and
so
not
a
a
local
but
a
national
registered
historic
district
part
of
it
and
so
trying
to
be
respectful
without
replicating
the
architecture.
That's
there,
but
as
as
staff
will
agree,
we've
been
trying
as
a
commission
riverfront
commission
for
many
many
years.
I
think
during
most
of
my
tenure
to
try
to
get
these
up
updated
guidelines
and
supposedly,
as
part
of
this
consolidated
commission,
we
will
be
moving
and
getting
help
to
do
that.
A
Thank
you.
Yes,
yes,
so,
as
jane
was
saying,
I
was
trying
to
scroll
through,
so
you
can
see,
there's
the
map
of
the
sorry
there's
a
core
district
and
then
there,
which
has
a
little
bit
more
text
about
that
district.
A
And
then
these
are
like
kind
of
the
district
remainders
and
each
of
those
are
different
right.
So
amboy
road,
the
riverfront
commission,
looked
at
a
project
just
last
week.
Amboy
is
very
different
than
river
arts
district
or,
if
you
are
in
the
northern
section
of
riverside
drive
most
things
so,
and
there
are
there's
lots
of
illustration
and
they're
all.
I
would
only
the
only
thing
I
would
add
to
what
jane
says
is:
there's
also
a
real
emphasis
on
landscape
and
trees
and
what
kind
of
plantings.
A
Water
quality,
water,
quality
right,
so
there's
actually
a
tree
and
shrub
list
for
the
river,
and
so
these
are
riparian
species
that
tolerate
wet
soils
and
the
flooding
that
happens
down
there.
More
often,
there
are
some
missing
species
on
here.
I've
been
discovering
lately,
but
it's
very
helpful
in
terms
for
applicants
and
and
for
you
know,
reviewers
like
yourselves
to
to
have
some
kind
of
gauge.
G
Can
I
add
something
to
sasha
sure
there
are
also
I
mean
just
and
I'm
sure,
you're
all
aware.
There
are
many
plans
that
have
been
done
for
the
river,
including
you
just
you
know,
various
design
guidelines
and
for
real
medicine,
riverway
and
those
are
on
the
city's
website
as
well
and
can
be
referenced.
A
Right,
that's
a
great
note.
I
will
we'll
add
the
wilma
dyckman
plan
here
and
we'll
add
the
downtown
plan
and
we'll
also
add
any
other
plans,
and
definitely,
if
any
of
you
have
thoughts
either
today
or
whenever.
Just
let
me
know
if
there's
something
you
want
me
to
add
to
this
page,
to
be
a
resource
for
you
all
jumping
to
downtown.
A
This
is
the
more
embarrassing
part.
I
guess
we
have
these
downtown
design
review
guidelines.
They
were
updated
in
2010
we
had.
I
should
have
brought
my
old
newspaper
copy
from
the
the
late
80s
of
the
or
90s
of
the
old
downtown
design
guidelines.
We
took
those
after
the
downtown
master
plan
was
adopted
in
20
2009
and
we
had
codified,
tried
to
take
a
lot
of
things
out
of
the
guidelines
and
put
them
into
the
code
and
then
so
we
pared
down
the
guidelines,
but
we
have
not
ever
made
these
guidelines
look
good.
A
So
it's
missing
it's
missing
pictures
in
here
and
it
also.
What
we
tried
to
do
here
is
put
requirements
in
gray.
Those
are
udo
code,
items
and
recommendations
are
guidelines
and
what
we
thought
it
was
a
good
idea,
but
we
have
found
that
it's
actually
more
confusing
to
people
than
than
not
so
that
needs
to
be
changed
and
I
think
there's
about
80
guidelines
here
and
it's
it's
a
lot
and
we
we
had
met-
and
I
think
brian
was
there.
A
Maybe
I
don't
know
steven
lee,
but
we
had
done
some
meetings
trying
to
change
those
and
we
still
have
all
those
notes
from
those
meetings.
But
I
don't
know
if
brian
or
stephen
lee
or
robin
or
kim
kimmy,
if
you
want
to
make
any
comments
about
these
guidelines,.
D
I'm
going
to
give
it
a
I'm
going
to
give
it
a
shout,
and
then
maybe
brian
and
robin
and
ken
could
type
in,
but
part
of
what
I
was
going
to
mention,
I
think,
is
some
of
the
successes
that
have
happened
over
the
last
couple
of
years,
but
again
with
the
design
guidelines.
D
Our
our
goal,
as
stated
in
the
guideline,
is,
is
to
review
and
discuss
and
encourage
design
teams
and
developers
to
create
appropriate
and
distinctive
designs
while
being
very
sensitive
to
our
urban
fabric,
which
is
so
diverse,
downtown
and
also
very
sensitive
to
the
public
realm
and
a
lot
of
the
projects.
We've
been
reviewing
they're,
you
know
in
the
dead
center
of
downtown
and
they
deal
with
high
volumes
of
people
and
the
impact
their
structures
have
on
the
public
realm,
and
we
really
try
to
push
that
in
addition
to
sustainable
design
ideas.
D
F
D
The
projects
have
come
through
multiple
times:
we've
had
a
very
collaborative
discussion
with
the
architects
and
the
architects
have
been
very
open
to
receiving
those
suggestions,
and
then
they
come
back.
They
have
been
incorporating
many
of
those
suggestions
and
I
think,
there's
been
some
very
strong
successes.
D
I
think
that
we
have
a
ways
to
go
in
terms
of
meeting
all
the
needs
of
all
the
citizens
that
enjoy
will
enjoy
some
of
these
spaces,
especially
with
just
things
like
access
and
how
the
entrances
or
people
experience
entrances
to
buildings
and
how
those
entrances
relate
to
the
existing
urban
fabric.
But
I
know
we've
had
robin
and
brian,
and
I
have
had
really
good
success
with
a
very
strong
collaborative
process.
I'm
going
to
leave
it
at
that,
and
others
can
chime
in.
E
I'll
jump
in
real
quick,
a
couple
couple,
quick
things
one!
I
wanted
to
talk
about
scope
of
this
commission
and
how
we
interface
with
our
respective
commissions.
E
So
briefly,
we
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
in
this
a
specific
design
review
that
we're
really
looking
at
design
review
issues
and
not
necessarily
the
the
policy
kind
of
issues
that
we
also
review
as
commission
members.
E
So
as
a
downtown
commission
member,
I'm
not
really
going
to
try
to
be
telling
river
the
the
riverfront
development
district
policy
issues,
but
we're
really
just
trying
to
be
reviewing
design,
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
overlap
and-
and-
and
we
do
want
to
be
mindful
of
that
as
we
work
through
it,
but
that
that
is
my
understanding
so
far.
I
want
to
echo
what
stephen
lee
said
now,
I'm
hoping
that
we
are
able
to
keep
both
the
informal
and
the
formal
review
aspects
of
the
design
review
board
going
forward.
E
So
one
of
the
things
that
has
been
successful
with
the
downtown
commission
is
that
we
have
had
a
number
of
informal
meetings
with
designers
prior
to
a
formal
submittal,
and
I
hope
we're
able
to
do
that
in
this
review
board
as
well
for
all
projects
moving
forward
and
then,
as
far
as
it
goes
to
downtown,
you
folks
are
really
good
at
what
you
do.
E
Most
of
you
are
better
at
what
you
do
than
I
am
at
what
I
do
so
you
know
the
process
and
I'm
pretty
sure
everybody's
going
to
be
able
to
look
at
what
we
do
have
and
move
from
there.
I
also
do
expect
that
all
of
us
are
going
to
be
looking
at
these
guidelines
for
both
downtown
and
the
riverfront
development
and
the
hotel
guidelines
and
trying
to
put
together
some.
I
don't
know,
is
this
going
to
be
three
different
documents.
I
mean
I,
I
keep
hearing
that
we're
going
to
address
the
design
guidelines.
C
G
C
They
will
be,
and
if
I
could
just
I'll
jump
in
real
quickly
and
just
just
to
kind
of
clarify,
especially
for
folks
who
might
be
just
joining
us
from
the
public
today,
the
scope
of
this
committee
is
design
review,
so
the
primary
function,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
will
be
performing
design
review
and
that
is
based
on
these
adopted
design
guidelines.
C
There
will
be
other
stakeholders,
of
course,
too,
when
the
time
comes,
but
but
until
we
get
to
the
point
where
we
can
update
those
guidelines,
what
we
have
is
what
we
have,
so
the
review
should
be
based
on
on
those
guidelines.
All
of
these
areas
have
both
these
set
of
guidelines
and
some
sort
of
design-based
requirements.
C
Staff,
as
part
of
our
presentation,
will
go
through.
You
know
the
the
code,
the
form
code
or
the
hotel
code,
those
design
requirements
and
make
sure
we
identify
what
those
are
and
how
the
project
does
or
doesn't
comply
with
those,
and
then,
of
course,
we'll
also
cover
the
design
guidelines.
So
we've
got
a
little
bit
slightly
different
set
of
standards
for
for
those
two
aspects
of
this
review.
A
And
I
just
yeah
before
I
we'll
get
to
the
informal
formal
part
in
the
next
item:
brian,
if
that's
okay
and
I
just
real
quick,
shannon.
If
you
wanted
to
talk
about
I'll
share
my
screen
again
and
we
could
just
talk
about
the
hotel
guidelines,
real
quick
to
find.
A
C
Sorry,
so
hotels
is
a
little
bit
different,
so
downtown
and
the
riverfront
areas
are,
you
know,
distinct
districts
or
areas,
whereas
hotel
the
hotel
overlay
can
occur
in
a
variety
of
places
throughout
the
city,
so
the
design
guidelines
are
purposefully,
broad
and
kind
of
general,
and
that
is
also
it's
to
give
this
committee
some
flexibility
to
be
able
to
kind
of
you
know,
customize
feedback
based
on
the
context
of
of
that
particular
project
area
and
also
to
kind
of
you
know,
start
start
the
conversation
about
what
kind
of
what
are
good
design
guidelines
when
it
comes
to
hotels.
C
G
C
Yeah
and
that's
that's
a
great
point
jane,
and
also
that
reminded
me
that
I
should
mention
that
four
hotel
projects
that
occur
in
the
design
review
areas
of
the
other
design
reviewers
is
the
downtown
or
the
riverfront.
The
code
basically
says
where
the
standards
conflict,
the
the
respective
the
the
well
the
downtown
or
the
riverfront
code
standards
apply.
So
that
actually
applies
for
both
the
code
and
the
design
guidelines.
So
if
you
have
a
hotel
and
it's
in
an
overlay,
that's
in
the
riverfront
area
we're
going
to
still
look
at
the
riverfront
guidelines.
A
As
most
of
you
know,
this
is
design
review
occurs
in
the
cbd
central
business
district
zoning
district
years
ago,
pre-2010
we
had
and
we
maybe,
if
we
ever
get
a
break
and
some
time
in
this
committee
I
can
show
you
all
the
maps
we
actually
used
to
the
downtown
commission
used
to
review
projects
in
what
we'd
call
gateway
areas
so
up
to
about
maybe
orange
street
on
merriman,
maybe
a
little
bit
of
broadway
kind
of
these
areas
leading
into
downtown,
and
the
idea
was
that
those
are
important
gateways.
A
So,
even
if
they
aren't
cbd,
we
should
review
them
and
we
took
that
away
and
simplified
it
and
that
there
may
be
some
problems
with
that
that
we
did
that
these
orange
districts
are
local
districts
over
here's,
the
key
over
here
on
the
right.
So
don't
that's.
Obviously,
that's
historic
resources.
Commission
who's,
doing
those
reviews
so
down
here
in
biltmore
village.
They
all
three
come
together.
So
you
have
the
local
historic
district
of
biltmore
village.
You
have
st
dunstan's,
which
is
a
residential
area.
H
A
B
So
my
only
question
is
where,
or
does
this
intersect
with
the
greenway.
A
A
Downtown
commission
was
reviewing
20
000
square
feet
and
up,
and
we
knew
that
that
wasn't
quite
right,
because
you
could
build
a
pretty
sizable
building
in
downtown
and
not
go
through
a
you
know:
you're
just
going
through
staff,
so
we
actually
with
this
new
ordinance
made
them
the
same
and
why
I
mention
that
is
because
in
the
riverfront-
and
this
would
affect
a
greenway-
is
that
there
is
a
language-
and
I
don't
know
if
I'm
going
to
find
it
here.
This
is
the
committee,
so
that's
the
wrong
place
to
be,
but.
C
It's
under
the
design
review,
it's
the
certificate,
the
minor
and
major
works,
so
projects
are
going
to
be
divided
into
categories.
Minor
works
are
going
to
be
reviewed
ministerially
by
staff,
so
those
are
those
are
small
things
like
adding
a
fence
or
replacing
a
sign
things
that
probably
really
don't
need
a
full
commission
review.
C
More
substantive
construction
will
be
reviewed
by
this
commission
or
committee
as
a
major
work,
and
so
the
description
of
a
major
work
will
also
include
substantial
changes
in
the
appearance
of
a
building,
demolition
of
demolition
or
relocation
of
buildings
of
structure
and
significant
renovations
or
reconstruction.
C
Oh,
oh
sorry,
I
skipped
over
the
front
the
early
part,
which
is
the
substantial
change
in
the
appearance
of
a
building
structure
or
site.
So
if
there's
very
substantial
changes
in
the
site
or
the
terrain,
then
that
was
something
that
this
body
will
review.
So
new
greenway
construction
would
be
reviewed
by
this
body.
A
A
G
No
and
we've
been
kept
quite
abreast
of
what's
happening
in
woodfin
by
their
representative,
and
that
is
important
to
us
to
understand
so
that
information
is
coming
to
us,
but
we're
not
doing
formal
review,
but
we,
you
know
we're
asked
what
we
think
we
can
tell.
You
know.
A
Yeah
yeah,
but
so,
but
that
that
question
would
but
that's
a
great
question
in
terms
of
you
know,
there
are
other
greenways
planned
for
along
the
swananoa
river
corridor,
which
you
know
we
would
want
to
bring
to
you
all
so.
A
Now
so
I'm
going
to
stop
sharing
my
screen
any
other
comments
or
questions
about
that.
A
So
the
next
item
I
have
is
regular
agenda
item
for
regular
meeting
schedule
and
agendas.
So
this
goes
to
so
there's
two
parts
to
this.
One
is
we're
trying
to
find
a
good
time
to
meet
with
y'all,
and
I
just
thought
I'd
open
up
the
floor
and
I
can
take
notes
if
there
are
times
like,
for
example,
then
I've
noticed
that
you
usually
can
meet
lunchtime
like.
That
seems
to
be
like
a
trend
for
you.
I
don't
know,
but
if
there
are
times
that
work
better
for
you
all
that
you
would
prefer.
C
Some
some
boards
and
commissions
and
committees
will
meet
in
the
evening
or
late
afternoon
into
the
evening.
In
case
case,
discussions
go
along,
others
meet
midday
or
some
meet
in
the
early
mornings.
So
really
it's
kind
of
what
is
what
is
the
preference
of
this
group
and
we
can
start
there.
It
doesn't
have
to
stay
that
way.
C
C
That
is
a
great
question,
so
we
have
a
couple
options.
I
mean
a
lot
of.
If,
if
it's
available,
I
think
the
first
floor
conference
room
probably
makes
the
most
sense.
C
We
have
chromebooks
for
commissioners
to
use.
We
have
space,
we've
got
a
presentation
set
up
down
there.
If
that's
not
available.
We
have
our
large
conference
room
here
on
the
fifth
floor.
There
could
be
there's
other
spaces
in
the
city
that's
available.
So
I
think
what
we
want
to
do
is
start
with
what
are
the
days
and
times
that
work
best
for
you
guys
and
then
we'll
try
to
find
the
best.
What.
D
Is
the
current
meeting
time
for
the
river
for
redevelopment
commission.
A
So
riverfront
meets
us
and
I'm
getting
feedback
through
you,
stephen.
A
The
riverfront
commission,
meets
on
the
second
thursday
of
the
month,
usually,
and
they
had
gone
to
an
every
other
month
format,
so
they
only
meet
every
month
if
they
really,
if
they've
got
items
pressing
items,
but
so
second
thursday
evening,
and
then
you
all,
the
downtown
commission
meets
second
friday
morning,
so
they're
kind
of
back
to
back
and
frankly,
we
have
been
struggling
with
trying
to
find
what
is
the
right.
We
we
want
their
feedback
right.
We
want
both
of
those
commission's
feedback
on
projects.
A
Last
friday
we
got
a
tremendous
amount
of
feedback
on
two
big
downtown
projects:
riverfront
looked
at
159
riverside,
which
is
a
cz
coming
through
the
night
before.
So
we
would
like
this
commission
committee
to
meet
after
those
commissions
in
the
in
the
kind
of
progression.
So
you
all,
this
committee
would
meet
after
those
two
commissions,
but
before
planning
and
zoning,
but
really
we
can
figure
out
which
week
of
the
month,
that
is,
I
mean,
I
think.
Third,
fourth,
first,
I'm
not
sure.
C
It
would,
since
those
committees
meet
the
was,
is
that
the
second
week
of
the
month,
so
you
know
third
fourth
week-
is
probably
what
would
work
best
for
this
group
just
so
that
we
have
time
to
get
any
revised
information
from
the
applicant
and
and
get
it
submitted
mate.
We
were
kind
of
originally
shooting
for
the
third
week.
That
seems
to.
We
think
that
that
will
work
pretty
well.
C
It
may
not
give
us
enough
time
to
get
to
the
very
next
planning
zoning
commission
meeting
that
may
have
to
be
delayed
so,
but
it
probably
makes
more
sense
to
put
more
time
between
this
body
and
the
plenty
of
zoning
commission
than
between
the
downtown
and
riverfront
commissions
in
this
body.
C
B
Yeah
thanks,
so
I
was
gonna:
ask:
how
long
will
it
be
before
we
meet
in
person,
because
that
totally
determines
my
answer
on
what
day
and
time
is
going
to
work
they're
totally
different.
C
We're
waiting
for
guidance,
more
direction
on
that
we
we
have
heard
that
council
is
considering
meeting
in
person
beginning
in
june.
If
that
happens,
then
I
would
expect
other
boards
and
commissions
to
kind
of
follow
thereafter
so
july
august
somewhere
in
that
time
frame.
We
don't
have
that
determined
yet.
So
I
think
at
least
the
first
meeting
of
this
body
will
be
remote,
but
maybe
beyond
that
it
might
be
in
person,
and
I
would
plan,
maybe
just
I
would
go
with
your
in-person
date.
C
I
think
that's
probably
I
I
don't
think
it
will
be
long.
So
that's
probably
the
one
we
need
to
shoot
for.
A
C
To
we
hope
so
eventually,
but
I
think
initially
it's
going
to
be
too
much.
I
I
expect
again.
This
is
just
me
just
this
is
just
speculation
based
on
other
conversations
we've
had
internally
is
that
we
will
likely
go
in
person
and
then
work
on
a
hybrid
model,
maybe
beyond
that,
but
that
might
be
a
while
also
it
requires
more
resources
and
I'm
not
sure
if
the
city
is
prepared
for
that.
B
G
Know
if,
if
we
have
an
agenda
that
we
can
then
discuss
with
our
commissions
the
second
week
of
the
month,
I
have
no
problem
with
the
third
week
of
the
month
means
thursday.
Today
we're
mostly
here,
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
good
day.
Wednesdays
are
not
typically
good
for
me,
because
those
are
when
professional
meetings
seem
to
kick
out
in,
but
you
know
other
than
that.
G
A
Jeremy,
oh
just
one
comment
I'll
make
and
then
jeremy.
I
our
idea
also,
is
that
if
they're
kind
of
close
together,
then
the
downtown
commission
and
riverfront
commission
are
really
getting
the
full
design
package
that
you
all
will
see
so
they'll
get
to
see
the
color
renderings,
the
contextual
views.
I
keep
saying
that
word
weird,
but
they'll
get
to
see
everything.
Last
week
at
downtown
commission
we
had
a
set
of
trc
drawings,
which
wasn't
just
black
and
white
drawings
which
wasn't
great
for
them.
So
we
want
those
folks
to
see
the
full
package.
Jeremy.
H
Yeah,
for
me,
midday
would
be
best
and,
like
jane
said,
if,
as
long
as
I
can
plan
it,
I
can
pretty
much
almost
always
do
that.
Child
care
issues
are
a
problem
in
the
mornings
in
the
evening.
For
me,
at
the
next
five
or
six
years.
E
Two
quick
questions.
First
of
all,
will
our
meetings
involve
a
lot
of
public
attendance
and
public
comment,
because
obviously
that's
going
to
determine
both
where
we
meet
and
when,
if
you're
going
to
make,
if
you
want
to
make
it
as
available
as
possible
for
the
public
midday
works
for
us
as
professionals,
not
it's
great
for
public.
E
So
so
that's
my
first
option
and
then
secondly-
and
this
is
getting
into
agendas
and
maybe
even
rules
of
procedure,
will
we
have
kind
of
consent,
agenda
type
items
for
a
lot
of
these
level,
ones
that
are
major
works,
but
not
necessarily
huge
items,
because
that
would
also
indicate
like
kind
of
when
we
meet
how
long
we
should
plan
for.
E
Weird
a
long
time
ago
we
did
and
then
I
think
we
were
told
we
were
not
allowed
to
do
that.
A
E
E
I
think
I
would
actually
have
issues
with
it.
I
think,
honestly,
if
it's
a
major
work,
then
we
need
to
discuss
it
and
give
public
comment
would
be
my
my
initial
take
on
it.
If
it's
a
minor
work,
then
it's
obviously
that
we're
done.
C
C
C
You
know
discussion
and
evaluation
so
and
then
to
answer
your
question
about
public
participation,
it
will
be
a
public
meeting,
so
it'll
be
noticed
and
advertised
members
of
the
public
can
attend.
It
is
not
a
public
hearing
where
you're
required
to
take
public
comment
now.
What
a
lot
of
boards
and
commissions
do
is
they
sort
of
consolidate
their
public
comment
either
at
the
beginning
or
the
end
of
the
meeting?
C
A
I
mean
those
are
big
things
impacting
the
public
and
part
of
this
change
is,
is
making
sure
that
the
public
can
participate
and-
and
I
think
that
helps
with
the
meeting
time
a
little
bit
right
in
terms
of
people-
we've
gotten
so
much
better
about
providing
everything
online
and
there's
numerous
ways
to
access
materials
that
I'm
hoping.
If
somebody
can't
make
a
meeting
that
they
will
submit
comments.
C
Well,
I
would
just
say
that
what
the
what
the
public
typically
comment
on
is
not
going
to
necessarily
be
design
based
and
most
of
these
projects
will
be
moving
on
to
the
planning
zoning
commission.
So
I
I
think
it's
something
that
this
this
body
can
discuss
and
decide
how
you
want
to
handle
it.
I
think
you
could
also
do.
C
E
I
would
actually
say
just
the
opposite:
I
would
reserve
most
public
comment
for
public
hearings
for
level
two
and
above
in
the
in
the
form,
in
the
format
that
they
have.
They
already
will
have
the
option
of
making
public
comment
at
downtown
at
riverfront
and
then
for
for
a
level
two
or
above
at
pnz.
I
would
think
we
would
want
to
have
more
public
comment,
possibly
for
the
level
ones
that
don't
have
any
other
opportunity
to
do
so,
but
we
can
we
can.
We
can
talk
about
that
as
we
get
there.
A
E
A
Okay,
okay
steven
lee.
D
So
riverfront
met
on
thursday
afternoon.
Is
that
correct?
Was
it
four
okay,
so
the
design
review
committee
downtown
commission
design
review
would
meet
at
11
30
and
on
tuesday?
So
I
just
wanted.
One
group
was
meeting
in
the
evening.
One
was
meeting
during
the
day,
so
it
sounds
like
the
first
thing
we
need
to
decide
is:
do
we
is
it
midday
or
is
it
end
of
day.
C
Yeah
we've
heard
a
couple
votes
for
midday.
Three
at
least
four
five
jane's
kind
of
seems
indifferent
ben.
It
seemed
like
you
had.
F
C
Yeah,
I
I
we
have
so
many
boards
and
commissions.
I
I
think
we
have
to
prioritize
what
works
for
you
all
and
the
members
of
the
public
will
will
adjust.
I
think
I
mean
for
the
one
meeting
that
somebody
from
the
you
all
have
to
be
here.
Every
month,
members
of
the
public
may
only
tune
in
once
a
year
or
if
that
you
know
so,
I
would
say
I
think
we
just
have
to
prioritize
what
works
best
for
you
guys
and
again.
C
B
I
would
just
say
that
I
I
could
make
it
work,
it's
still
a
little
challenging,
but
thursdays
actually
do
work
better
for
me,
if
I
need
to
you
know
concede
I
will,
but
I
just
want
to
say
that
actually,
thursdays
are
my
best
day.
C
Okay,
anybody
have
a
problem
with
thursday
I've.
D
A
A
And
I-
and
I
know
we
put
out
that
doodle
poll
and
june
3rd
looked
like
the
one
day
that
almost
everybody
could
make.
A
In
case
you
don't
know,
we've
got
a
level
two
at
120
biltmore,
coming
a
conditional
zoning,
a
large
project
at
four
points
on
woodfin,
22,
woodfin
and
159
riverside,
which
is
a
very
large
conditional
zoning
down
on
riverside
drive,
which
is
on
riverlink
property,
just
adjacent
to
the
cotton
mill
just
north
to
the
cotton
mill
and
and
then
we've
got
two
small.
I
think
small
projects
to
come
through,
which
I
think
would
be
very
quick
review
and
they're
they're
kind
of
ready
and
waiting
in
the
rings,
the
two
small
ones,
the
three
bigger
ones.
A
This
is
where
we
have
a
problem
with
getting
drawings
from
folks
writing
a
staff
report
doing
the
notification
all
those
things
it
takes
a
little
bit
of
time.
So
I
think
shannon-
and
I
we'll
have
to
figure
out
if
we
should
just
look
at
the
third
thursday
in
june.
At
noon
would
be
the
17th.
A
C
I
mean
the
benefit
of
meeting
twice.
Is
you
kind
of
spread
it
out
and
you
don't
have
too
many
projects,
although
this
first
meeting
is
probably
going
to
have
the
most
projects,
it's
possible
that
your
second
meeting
in
june,
you
may
not
even
have
anything
because
you'll
knock
them
all
out
in
early
june.
It's
it's
up
to
you
guys.
G
C
So
maybe
we
go
with
the
two
meetings.
I
think
the
applicants
would
appreciate
that
if
you
all
are
willing
to
do
that
for
this
first
go
through
and
then
it
may,
it
might
be
possible.
We
don't
even
need
to
meet
in
june,
jane
you'll,
be
there
for.
A
C
It
yeah
it
also
gives
this
commission
the
opportunity
like,
and
the
applicants
like,
if
there's
a
lot
of
design
feedback,
that
they
want
to
try
to
look
at
more
carefully
and
then
there's
another
meeting
following
shortly
thereafter
that
they
could
get
on
that
agenda.
So
you
could
continue
items
to
the
next
agenda
that
could
be
convenient
for
this
first
month.
A
And
just
to
switch
a
little
bit,
so
that's
great!
Thank
you.
So
much
and
so
brian
brought
up
this
issue
of
informal
and
formal
review
when
we
were
first
conceptualizing
this
committee,
I
had
it
in
my
brain.
It
would
be
like
one
one
thursday.
You
do
informal
review
and
then
the
next
you
know
two
weeks
later,
you
do
formal
reviews,
that's
a
lot
to
ask
you
all
and
you
all
are
all
serving
on
another
commission,
and
so
that
doesn't
seem
doable,
and
so
we
started
thinking.
A
Well,
if
you
have
one
meeting
a
month,
you
do
your
formal
reviews
first
and
then
could
do
something
formal
at
the
same
time,
I'm
not
sure,
with
the
volume
that
we
are
experiencing
right
now
that
that's
doable
frankly,
because
informal
reviews
are
your,
that's
your
duty.
Let's
say
that's
what
you
have
to
do.
The
informal
was
a
kind
of
a
kindness
that
was
given
to
people
it's
not
required,
but
so
I
don't
we're
kind
of
if
you
all
have
any
ideas
or
thoughts
about
that.
A
E
Let's
just
get
into
it
folks
and
see
what
the
professionals
want
to
do.
A
lot
of
these
professionals
have
been
bringing
stuff
to
us
very
early
in
their
design
process,
and
so,
if
they're
willing
to
just
bring
it
to
us-
and
we
can
look
at
it
and
understand
that
we're
not
voting
on
anything
and
we
can
continue
or
it's
not
even
a
true
submittal.
E
Let's
do
that
and
we'll,
like
you,
said
we'll
we'll
do
the
real
ones
first
and
then
have
the
other
ones
later
in
the
meeting
it's
kind
of
the
way.
I
do
that
and
then,
if
we
need
to
do
something,
if
we
need
to
do
a
little
subcommittee
to
peel
off
for
for
things,
then
we
can.
We
can
do
that
as
well.
That's
my
two
cents.
C
Yeah
everything
will
be
posted
online
and
then
we'll
email,
you
all
likely
just
to
let
you
know
you
know
when
the
materials
are
posted
and
available,
try
to
get
them.
Usually
it's
not
usually
quite
a
week
ahead
of
time.
So
if
you're
meeting
the
third
thursday
so
like,
we
may
try
to
get
them
posted
by
the
precinct
or
monday.
Something
like
that.
A
Okay,
so
great,
and
so
that
first
june
3rd
meeting,
I
think
we
will
we'll
be
able
to
give
you
all
the
drawings
a
week
full
week
ahead,
if
not
more,
and
we
will
try
to
get
staff
reports
are
going
to
be
the
challenge
for
this
first
one.
But
we
will
work
on
that.
Robin
are.
A
11
we
could
do
11
30.,
there's
the
affordable
housing
advisory
committees
from
9
to
11,
and
I
don't
want
to
overlap
with
them
if
at
all
possible.
D
A
C
So
you
all
are,
I
think,
having
served
on
other
boards
and
commissions,
you
you're
familiar
with
rules
and
procedures,
just
sort
of
the
standards
by
which
these
this
body
will
govern
themselves.
It's
got
the
typical
description
and
purpose
of
what
the
committee
exists
for,
and
membership
details
about,
membership
and
you
know
electing
a
chair
and
a
vice
chair.
All
of
that
stuff
conflicts
of
interest
were
recently
updated
by
our
legal
staff.
That's
included.
C
I
used
a
couple
different,
existing
rules
of
procedure
for
different
boards
and
commissions
and
kind
of
merged
them
together.
For
you
all,
it's
a
draft
it's
available
for
you
to
review.
It's
pretty
dry,
pretty
straightforward.
I
don't
know
that.
There's
a
whole
lot
to
add
or
consider
it's
just
like
you
know
it's
kind
of
technical.
C
Right
so
there's
a
temporary
chair
also
in
the
rules
of
procedure
when
there
isn't
a
chair
or
a
vice
chair
yet
established.
So
I
I
think
we
can.
We
can
just
basically
call
this
first
chair,
a
temporary
chair
until
enough
time
has
passed
for
all
intensive
purposes.
It
will
just
be
a
regular
chair,
but.
C
Let
me
know
I'm
getting
our
legal
staff
to
kind
of
review
them,
also
so
hopefully
they're
in
good
shape.
So
by
the
time
you're
you
have
your
next
meeting.
It
might
be
your
first
order
of
business.
You
know
we
may
have
administrative
items
to
take
care
of,
and
this
might
be.
One
of
them
is
just
to
adopt
the
rules
of
procedure.
So
if
you
could
just
take
a
quick
look
at
them
and
then
we'll
get
them
adopted,
maybe
at
the
next
meeting.
B
C
We
could,
I
suppose
we
run
the
risk
that
legal
staff
could
come
back
with
me.
You
know
with
some
changes,
although
I
feel
pretty
good
about
it.
I
think
we're
in
good
shape,
so
they
could
be
totally
fine,
but
you
could
and
then
we
could
edit
them
later.
If
you
needed
to.
G
A
C
C
So
that's
also
described
in
the
rules
of
procedures,
so
we
think
you
know
this
committee
is
a
committee,
but
it
still
would
benefit
from
having
a
chair
and
a
vice
chair.
It's
for
all
intents
and
purposes.
I
think
this
committee
will
operate
much
like
a
commission.
So
it's
you
know.
I
I
don't
know
what
you
all
want
to
keep
in
mind
when
voting
for
a
chair.
You
know
some
boards
and
commissions
folks
will
just
say
I'm
interested
and
then
there
will
be
a
vote.
You
could
do
it's
just
a
simple
majority
vote.
C
We
could
do
it
today.
We
could
do
it
next
time.
C
A
A
We
want
to
do
that
now
before
we
try
to
elect
anybody.
Sorry,
who
wants
to
go
I'll,
go
around
my
screen
jane.
Would
you
like
to
start.
G
So
I'm
jane
matthews,
I
am
a
principal
of
matthews
architecture
in
downtown
asheville
and
I
also
chair
the
design
review
committee
of
the
aarrc
currently
as
currently
formed
and-
and
I
did
downtown
design
review
ironically
as
part
of
planning
and
zoning
back
in
the
day.
Long
time
ago,
when
I
was
on
that
commission
and
advocated
for
it
to
be
pushed
to
the
downtown
commission
so
glad
that
you've
been
handling
that
for
for
all
these
years,.
A
B
Okay,
I'm
kimmy
hunter,
I'm
in
my
second
term
on
the
downtown
commission
and
I
am
a
north
carolina,
real
estate
broker
and
I
own
wishbone
tiny
homes.
So
I'm
a
new
developer.
I
have
no
interest
in
being
the
chair
of
the
vice
chair,
so
that
makes
it
easy.
H
Hey
hi,
so
I
served
on
planning
and
zoning
one
term
with
jane
and
then
another
term.
For
a
number
of
years,
I'm
a
commercial
real
estate
broker
and
developer.
H
A
E
Brian
moffett,
I'm
just
a
local
architect,
I'm
in
my
first
term
on
the
downtown
commission
and
I'm
going
to
nominate
jane.
So
there
you
go.
D
F
D
A
F
Hey
everybody:
I
am
ben
williamson.
I
am
not
a
designer
architect
or
developer,
but
I'm
an
educator
turned
nonprofit
administrator,
currently
serving
as
the
interim
executive
director
at
green
opportunities
in
south
side
just
began
my
first
term
on
the
riverfront
commission.
So
yeah
thanks
excited
to
be
here.
I
Robin
hi,
I'm
robin
raines,
I'm
in
my
first
term
on
the
downtown
commission
as
as
well,
I
am
a
partner
at
real
house,
architects.
I've
lived
in
asheville
for
21
years
and
I've
worked
on
the
affordable
housing
committee
downtown
and
I
think
that's
it.
Oh
I've
been
on
the
design
review
committee
too,
for
a
while.
So.
A
So
the
riverfront
commission,
you
know,
basically
you
all
had
to
apply,
as
you
recall,
and
we
only
got
three
folks
from
the
riverfront
commission
applying.
So
there
is
an
empty
seat
for
that
person.
Sage
is
councilman.
Turner
is
trying
to
recruit
somebody
actively
from
that
body
and
then
we
have
the
at
large
seat.
So
we
have
seven
out
of
nine,
which
is
a
pretty
good
starting
point.
H
C
I
think
everybody's
vote
counts
equally,
so
it's
really
just
about
running
the
meeting.
Yes,
so
I
would
say
whoever
feels
comfortable
doing
that
has
demonstrated
skill
and
keeping
everybody
on
on
task,
and
you
know
focused
on
the
issue
at
hand,
so
managing
members
of
the
public
should
should
that
need
a
rise.
H
I'm
all
in
favor
of
jane
and
robin
steven
lee
doesn't
look
like
he
wants
to
do
it,
so
I
would
second
that
nomination.
B
G
I
I
would
serve
if
it's
selected,
I've
been
doing
it
for
a
while,
and
I
have
been
chair
of
other
commissions.
So
it's
it
wouldn't
be
unusual
for
me
to
take
that
on
I'd
be
happy
to
do
that
represent
and
I'm
really
glad
to
see
the
mix
of
people
on
the
committee.
I
don't
know
if
it
needs
to
be
a
architect,
landscape,
architect,
chair
vice
chair.
As
long
as
we
have
the
mixes
commission
is
really
important.
H
B
C
And
I
can
I
interject
before
we
do
that
sasha
I
forgot
to
tell
you.
I
have
a
an
appointment.
I
have
to
run
too
okay,
so
I'm
gonna
have
to
sign
out.
So
I'm
gonna
put
you
all
in
sasha's,
capable
hands
to
wrap
this
up
and
get
you
through
this
next
bit
of
the
agenda.
So
thank
you
all.
So
much
really
appreciate
your
service
and
we'll
we'll
talk
much
more
in
the
meetings
to
come.
A
A
And
we're
asking
for
chair
and
vice
chair,
just
fyi
stephen
lee.
A
I
I
would
love
to
be
vice
chair
I
mean
it's.
It's
just
sounds
like
the
best
thing
that
I
could
do,
I'm
so
excited
about
it.
A
Okay,
I
have
a
motion
and
a
second
I
will
do
a
roll
call
vote.
This
was
required
since
this
is
a
virtual
meeting
and
I
will
try
to
quickly
alphabetize
you
all
jeremy
goldstein.
D
B
A
A
A
A
The
only
requirement
really
of
your
committee
is
that
the
majority
have
to
have
either
special
interest
or
education
experience
or
professional.
You
know
education,
so
we're
well
into
a
majority
on
this
commission
so
committee.
Sorry,
I'm
going
to
say
that
I'm
going
to
do
that
all
the
time.
So
some
folks,
a
couple
folks
submitted
cover
letters
and
applications.
A
These
two
folks
did,
I
started
making
a
table.
I
didn't
share
that
with.
I
didn't
have
a
chance
to
finish
that,
so
my
question
really
is
for
you
all.
A
D
I'd
like
to
suggest
we
discuss
and
vote
since
we've
had
this
for
a
little
bit.
Thank
you.
H
I'd
be
in
favor
of
that
as
well.
I
also
do
think
it's
fairly
important
to
have
a
design
background.
This
is
a
design
review
committee.
One
reason
why
this
was
formed
was
to
sort
of
take
the
other
non-design
related
issues.
Out
of
this
particular.
B
I
just
wanted
to
vote
as
well.
I've
read
everything
thoroughly
and
I
want
to
recommend
karen
craig
nolan,
no
she's,
not
a
design
professional,
but
she
does
have
extensive
background
in
the
river
arts
district
specifically
and
personally
professionally.
B
I
think,
having
someone
who
is
physically
in
a
wheelchair
actually
will
add
value
to
how
we
think
about
design
and
how
we
review
design.
So
I
just
wanted
to
name
that.
Thank
you.
I
would.
G
Second,
that
nomination-
and
I
would
add
that
karen
also
brings
a
lot
of
experience
with
clean
water
issues.
She
served
on
the
clean
water
trust
fund
and
has
a
particular
interest
in
stormwater
management,
and
you
know,
if
nothing
else,
it's
just
another
voice
to
that
discussion.
I
think
that
would
be
helpful.
D
D
I
think
that
I
know
that
one
strong
element
that
we
have
been
missing
from
the
downtown
commission
design
review
committee
has
been
a
very
broad,
in-depth
understanding
at
reasonable
and
reliable,
sustainable
building
and
storm
water
techniques,
management
techniques
and
kate's
company
manages
and
designs
and
installs
sustainable
living
roof
projects
all
over
the
east
coast,
and
I
think
that
it
is
it's
pretty
profound,
the
work
that
they
do
almost
every
project
that
we've
been
reviewing
in
the
central
business
district.
There
has
been
an
incredible
opportunity
to
capture
on
some
of
the
successes.
D
Had
an
opportunity
to
push
it
very
very
strongly,
and
I
think
that
it's
also,
I
think
it's
important
to,
in
addition
to
being
a
really
good
designer
with
background
and
landscape
architecture,
kate
is
a
new
fresh
face
that
is
very,
very
eager
to
be
a
part
of
a
commission
in
reviewing
design.
Thank
you.
G
H
I
I
I
would
also
be
in
favor
of
kate,
but
I
did
want
to
say
that
a
number
of
these
applicants
are,
you
know,
we'd
be
fortunate
to
have
any
of
them.
All
of
them
are
very
qualified
and
each
person
would
offer
something
unique,
but
I
would
also
be
in
favor
of.
A
G
I
was
just
second
what
jeremy
said:
there's
some
wonderful
applicants,
I
think
just
having
a
balance
and
representation
on
the
commission
is
really
important
too.
There
are
a
lot
of
architects.
Unfortunately,
I
mean
it's
great
to
see
architects
stepping
up
to
volunteer
and
I
would
encourage
them
to
continue
to
look
at
opportunities,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
architects
already
represented
and
other
design
professionals
and
people
in
construction
and
development.
F
My
only
comment
is:
we've
got
the
open
slot
on
riverfront
and
I
know
the
the
commission
bylaws.
You
know
state
that
we
have
to
have
four,
but
we've
got
all
these
great
applicants
for
the
at
large.
Is
there
any
way
that
we
could
potentially
move
two
of
the
at
large
or
one
of
the
at
large
to
fill
the
open,
riverfront
slot.
A
And
jane,
I
had
this
conversation
with
jane
earlier
this
week
too.
I
think
not
without
an
ordinance
change,
not
without
counsel
taking
action.
Council
set
this
committee
up
in
a
certain
way
and
we
can't
really
override
that
right.
A
You
know
I
mean
I
and
I
don't
I'm
not
familiar
enough
with
the
riverfront
terms
and
who's
going
on
and
coming
off,
and
I
mean
I
think
I
guess
one
thing
to
know
and
a
good
side
is
that
people
that
you
all
are
serving
while
you're
on
your
commissions
and
when
you
roll
off
your
commission,
then
your
seat,
you
know
so
things
are
going
to
change
on
this
committee
and
it's
it's
not
a
permanent
choice
forever
right,
it's
probably
for
the
next
year
and.
B
I
want
to
say
that
I
thought
kate
was
amazing.
Also,
I
think
where,
where
my
mind
decided
that
maybe
maybe
karen
was
a
better
choice
is
because
I
thought
kate
would
actually
do
really
well
by
being
a
part
of
so
many
potential
pro
projects
that
come
to
actually
create
stormwater
solutions
and
so
therefore
recusing
herself
from
many
of
the
voting
outcomes.
So
I
kind
of
took
it
a
step
further
and
just
thought
you
know
great.
B
It
would
be
wonderful
to
have
a
person
like
this
to
step
into
this
these
shoes,
but,
ultimately
you
know
the
goal
is
that
they're
doing
the
work
or
their
business
and
their
company
is
doing
the
work
with
all
this
development
and
that's
part
of
solving
the
problem.
So
I
just
wanted
to
name
that
and
that's
why
I
really
want
to
push
for
karen,
because
we're
still
not
seeing
enough
representation
for
people
with
different
abilities,
and
I
think
we
need
that
in
the
room,
especially
with
her
experience
beyond
that.
B
E
For
listening
in
the
in
under
the
ordinance
for
the
design
review
committee,
it
says
the
ninth
member
of
the
community
shall
be
selected
by
a
majority
vote
of
the
seated
members,
and
then
it
says
preference
will
be
given
to
applicants
who
represent
at
least
one
of
the
actual
design
review
committee's
interest
areas
in
addition
to
the
seat
requirements,
and
then
it
lists
persons
with
disabilities,
transit
users
and
seniors.
A
You're
not
wrong,
and
we
we
specifically
worded
it
that
way
because
of
discussions
at
the
downtown
commission
frankly,
and
just
making
wanting
to
make
sure
we're
getting
some
of
those
diverse
voices
on
this
board.
E
A
All
right,
I
guess
I
will.
D
E
Yeah,
so
I'm
in
section
7311
and
it's
membership
terms
and
vacancies,
article
b
and
then
items
four
and
five
under
that
it
says
the
the
ninth
member
of
the
committee
selected
by
majority
vote
and
then
it
says,
preference
will
be
given
to
applicants
who
represent
at
least
one
of
the
actual
design
review
committee's
interest
areas
in
addition
to
the
seat
requirements,
and
then
it
lists
persons
with
disabilities,
transit
users
and
seniors
there.
You.
B
A
Thank
you.
We
actually
borrowed
this
from
another.
G
H
Wow
I'd
have
to
agree
with
brian
I
mean
given
the
guideline
that
specific
guideline.
Comparing
the
two
very
qualified
applicants,
I
would
have
to
agree
with
kimmy.
A
Okay,
I
have
a
motion
and
a
second.
I
will
do
a
roll
call
vote
and
I
will
do
it
opposite.
Ben
williamson
hi
robin
reigns,
aye
brian
moffat.
D
D
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
That's
great!
Okay.
We
will
in
the
meantime,
we
will
before
your
next
meeting.
We
will
get
in
touch
with
karen
and
get
her
oriented
to
where
you
all
are
at
stevenly.
Just.
D
A
Sure,
I
think
that's
doable.
Thank
you.
So
with
that
I'm
gonna
go
look
to
see
if
anyone
is
in
the
public
comment
queue.
I
there's
no
one
actually
listening
by
phone
right
now.
A
A
I
will
just
say
to
anybody
watching
in
the
future.
If
you
wanted
to
comment,
we've
got
it
multiple
places,
voicemail
email
and
we're
taking
live
comments,
and
with
that
I
think,
does
anybody
have
any
other
questions
or
concerns
they
want
to
raise
before
our
next
meeting.
So
the
next
meeting
of
this
body
will
be
thursday
june
3rd
at
noon
with
jane
matthews
as
our
new
chair
and
robin
reigns
as
the
vice
chair.