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From YouTube: Reparations Commission – June 12, 2023
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Regular meeting of the City of Asheville Community Reparations Commission.
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A
Yeah
at
times,
without
cutting
off
I
think
very
constructive
conversations
that
you
all
might
be
having
I'd
like
to
call
this
meeting
of
the
security
reparations
commission
to
order.
A
I
am
I,
do
have
a
remark,
and
you
know
I
always
have
remarks.
I
do
have
a
remarks
if
I
could
have
your
attention
just
for
a
second
I
want
to
approach
a
subject
that
many
of
you
all
have
been
talking
to
me
about
private
work
and
have
been
on
the
back
burner
and
I've
been
squelched
as
much
as
possible
by
whoever
is
in
opposition
to
it,
for
whatever
reason,
politically,
ideologically,
legally
economically
Etc,
but
I've
been
working
in
a
way
that
suits
my
profession,
political
science,
I
study
in
my
research.
A
That's
what
I
do.
Let
me
say
this
to
you.
Your
work
that
you
were
doing
in
your
ifas
are
is
excellent.
It's
it's
not
to
be
at
all
diminished,
it's
important
for
this
community.
You
all
have
your
pulse
on
the
needs
of
the
community
and
your
and
what's
most
important,
I've
noticed
how
much
you
have
your
guards
up
for
offenses
against
the
welfare
of
our.
A
I
appreciate
that
I
assume
that
the
work
that
I've
been
doing,
though
I
need
to
add
as
an
addendum,
in
that
we
are
charged
through
the
resolutions
of
the
city
and
through
the
county
as
one
of
our
many
charges,
but
we
are
charged
with
increasing
generational
wealth
and
in
doing
so,
reducing
the
disparities
by
race
in
Asheville,
City
and
Buncombe
County.
A
One
fundamental
thing
that
has
come
through
in
the
research
that
I've
done
with
the
writings
and
doing
since
several
of
you
may
have
read
some
of
the
basic
some
of
the
same
materials
is
that
the
key
element
in
reducing
disparities
is
increasing.
The
assets
of
African
Americans
and
increasing
the
assets
means
Direct
Cash,
paying
that's
a
topic
that
I
realized
is
not
to
be
discussed
but
I'm
putting
it
on
the
table
for
you
I'm
putting
it
on
the
table.
For
you,
there
are
studies
to
indicate
that
it's
effective.
A
C
D
Hi
everyone
and
welcome,
and
so
I
am
about
to
call
Roe
as
I
call
your
name.
Please
answer
it:
I
Dwayne
Barton,
Norma
bangs,
here
Renata
congas,
yeah,
Christopher
Gordon,
here
Roy
Harris,
you
Joyce,
Harrison,
Shonda,
Jackson,
Kimberly
Jones,
here
dewana
little
I'm
here,
Dwayne
McAfee,
here,
tamari
Macon
yeah
by
that
Mays
Glenda
McDowell,
here
Tamara
Miller,
here,
Dwight
Mullen,
president
Mildred
Nance,
Carson,
Bernard,
Olio
fight
president
Thomas
priesta.
D
All
right,
I
do
have
a
quorum,
and
our
action
item
is
the
approval
of
the
agenda
and
meeting
minutes.
Has
everyone
had
a
chance
to
read
over
the
media
minutes
from
last
meeting?
E
F
Thing
hi
everyone,
Christine
Edwards
here
project
manager
for
the
community
reparations
commission
happy
to
be
here
again
with
you
all
so,
in
order
to
just
make
this
a
little
bit
smoother
what
what
I
was
able
to
do
was
actually
add
page
numbers
to
your
agenda
packet
so
that
we
can
follow
along
so
I
hope
that
that
makes
us
a
little
bit
smoother
today.
So
hopefully
you
all
had
a
chance
to
read
through
the
survey
data
overall,
it
was
positive.
F
Oh
the
first
question:
did
you
have
the
opportunity
to
express
your
ideas,
thoughts
and
opinions
at
the
May
15th
meeting?
Overwhelmingly
people
responded
with.
Yes,
although
we
did
not
have
a
really
robust
participation
in
this
survey
and
I
think
that
participation
starts
to
wane,
sometimes
over
the
summer,
and
because
we
have
been
at
this
for
quite
a
while,
but
I
do
want
to
encourage
y'all
to
please.
You
know
put
your
comments
in
the
survey,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
your
thoughts
and
opinions
are
getting
out
there
to
share
with
everyone.
F
If
you
look
at
page
10,
what
did
you
like
most
about
the
May
15th
meeting?
A
lot
of
people
expressed
that
they
really
appreciated
the
IFA
presentations
and
the
Q
a
session,
and
then
the
next
question
in
terms
of
what
needed
Improvement,
we
heard
several
things
such
as
you
know,
information
that
was
shared
about
data
requests
and
just
capacity
to
fulfill
those
day.
Requests
and
I
do
want
to
point
out.
One
comment
that
is,
someone
says
that
they
do
not
have
access
to
the
dashboard.
F
We
did
make
that
data
available,
so
I
invite
you
all.
If
you
do,
if
you
want
to
just
reach
out
to
me
in
an
email,
if
you're
not
having
access
to
that
data,
dashboard
I
can
send
it
to
you,
make
sure
you
have
access
to
it
and
so
that
you
can
actually
see
the
data,
that's
being
completed
all
right
and
then
the
final
question
sharing
suggestions
for
agenda
topics
you
like
to
be
considered
for
future
meetings,
there's
a
lot
of
information
here.
F
We
want
to
be
able
to
pull
out
specific
examples,
and
you
know
so,
if
anything
really
jumps
out
at
you,
I
encourage
you
to
to
reach
out
to
the
program
team
reach
out
to
myself
or
folks
from
the
city
so
that
we
can
Implement.
F
A
I
failed
to
oh,
my
my
enthusiasm
to
offer
something
else
to
you.
I
failed
to
acknowledge
officials
in
our
games
and
I've
done
this
on
several
occasions.
I
apologize
city
managers
for
not
recognizing
it,
but
I
can't
see
if
there
are
others
who
are
in
public
positions
that
we
should
acknowledge.
Our
city
officials,
County
officials,.
F
All
right
and
just
as
a
reminder,
we
do
have
10
minutes
each
and
then,
after
the
E
after
the
ifas,
go,
there's
going
to
be
an
additional
10
minutes
for
Q
a
and
discussion,
and
we
do
this
so
that
we
can
just
stay
on
track.
But
I
know
that
this
is.
This
is
the
time
that
everybody
wants
to
kind
of
get
their
questions
in
and
really
have
that
that
back
and
forth
and
feedback,
so
I'm
gonna
limit
it.
But
we
still
need
to
make
sure
we
stay
on
track.
Great
good.
I
H
H
Much
of
what
I'll
share
this
evening
has
already
been
here.
The
last
time
that
we
presented,
we've
talked
about
our
dress:
lack
of
generational
wealth,
stopping
gentrification
in
my
community's
lack
of
competent
financial
literacy
programs
for
black
people.
Our
recommendations
overview
I'm,
actually
going
to
read
that
we
have.
We
have
worked
on
some
recommendations
that
we
have
the
attorney's
vet
through
for
us
and
I
shared
this
at
our
last
meeting.
H
F
H
Some
more
smithing
that
needs
to
be
done
with
regards
to
these
recommendations
and
the
third
one
is
create
a
land
acquisition
program
that
would
acquire
at
a
minimum.
The
amount
of
papers
that
was
taken
from
black
people
during
urban
renewal
so
just
wanted
to
kind
of
bring
those
forward.
There's
also
some
other
recommendations
that
we're
working
on
and
we're
working
on
breaking
those
into
buckets.
I.
Don't
have
those
in
front
of
me
so
I
apologize,
but
the
next
time
that
we
report
out.
H
We
will
share
that
information
with
you
and
then
going
back
to
the
presentation.
We
looked
at
recommendations
overview
again:
the
placement
displacement
of
black
homes
and
neighborhoods
due
to
urban
renewal
return
of
all
unused
Arbor
renewal
land,
which
I've
already
spoken
to
and
I
won't
read
the
recipes,
I
think
they're
already
on
the
handouts.
H
And
then,
when
we
talk
about
overlap
again,
we
say
that
the
housing
IFA
overlapping,
all
of
the
other
ifas
and
so
we're
hoping
that,
once
the
retreat
comes
we'll
be
able
to
bring
forth
some
of
these
recommendations
and
see
how
we
can
kind
of
parcel
these
out
so
that
we're
not
doing
double
work
and
how
are
we
gaining
Community
engagement?
So
we
have
an
event.
I
shared
this.
At
the
last
meeting
we
had
an
event
on
the
15th.
We
are
doing
a
follow-up
event.
H
I
have
not
gotten
the
date
solidified
yet,
but
we're
looking
at
September.
So
what
we
plan
to
do
is
to
go
back
and
meet
with
Community,
because
they
give
us
a
lot
of
great
feedback
when
we
had
that
event,
and
so
let
them
know
hey.
This
is
what
we've
done.
We
heard
you,
we
presented
it
to
the
full
commission.
We've
talked
to
the
attorneys,
and
then
this
is
what
we're
going
to
do,
and
maybe
that's
the
next
steps.
J
A
As
you're
speaking,
please
identify
for
the
sake
of
the
audience.
That's
not
here.
They
can't
see
you.
Oh,
this
is
Dwight
it's
more
of
a
comment
than
an
inquiry
for
you,
but
the
Housing
and
Urban
Development
Department
of
Housing
Development
is
doing
major
work
right
now
on
countering
what
happened
to
Black
communities
because
of
urban
renewal
and
I'm.
Wondering
I
didn't
mean
to
place
it
as
a
question
but
I'm
wondering
if
this
is
not
a
time
or
way
of
thinking
of
leveraging
what
we're
doing
with
what
the
feds
are
doing.
H
Yeah
I
think
that's
a
great
idea,
I
also
think
maybe
putting
together
in
our
proposal
so
because
we've
spoken
about
putting
together
proposals
of
what
that
can
look
like
and
so
adding
that
into
one
of
our
proposals.
We
can
definitely
talk
about
that.
Thank
you
and
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
brought
up
in
just
a
second
Tiffany.
H
We
talked
about
you
know
the
Legacy,
neighborhoods
I
know,
there's
a
presentation,
that's
going
to
be
taking
place
this
evening
with
regards
to
that,
so
we're
also
making
sure
that
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
including
these
Legacy
neighborhoods
and
we're
reaching
out.
So
that's
part
of
our
community
community
engagement,
making
sure
that
we're
reaching
out
to
these
neighborhood
because
of
hearing
their
voices
as
well.
Tiffany.
K
Thank
you.
This
is
Tiffany
debolo.
My
question
is
around
the
recommendations.
Overview
you're,
mentioning
return
of
all
unused
urban
renewal
land
immediately.
So
is
that
like
has
that
been
covered
through
legal?
In
terms
of?
Can
we
see
something
like
this
actually
happening,
because
this.
H
Is
amazing?
Yes,
so
one
of
the
Brad
and
fruit
actually
we've
said
that
to
legal
and
Brad
sent
back
some
information
to
us.
So
that's
why
I
said
it
needs
to
be
some
words
with
you.
I
don't
know
if
you
would
like
to
add
to
or
kind
of
share
what
took
place.
H
L
Me,
okay,
I
will
go
to
the
mic
if
you
can.
Obviously
this
is
preliminary
in
nature,
in
that
we
give
our
initial
thoughts
and
considerations
the
concerns
that
we
have,
but
every
final
sort
of
recommendation
or
advice
that
the
county
attorney
or
myself
will
provide
to
our
relative
governing
boards
would
be
based
on
the
exact
language
of
the
final
recommendation.
L
So
I
know
we're
still
working
progress,
but
to
this
point,
what
we
have
said
is
that
you
know
if
we're
defining
what
return
is
I
think
some
of
the
language
that
we've
heard
has
maybe
going
ahead
and
setting
that
land
aside
that
had
been
acquired
by
the
senior
County
drug
renewal
and
dedicating
it
towards
the
purposes
of
reparations
without
us.
Knowing,
yet
what
exactly
that
would
mean,
in
other
words,
that
kind
of
an
approach
as
opposed
to
giving
Land
from
the
city
to
County
back
to
an
individual
or
a
group
of
individuals.
L
It
is
I,
think
something
the
former
is
something
that
absolutely
is
a
much
easier
legal
path
for
us
to
do
so.
That's
the
communications
we've
had
with
this
group
so
far
and.
K
My
final:
is
there
a
longevity
plan
so,
for
example,
this
this
goal
it's
going
to
expand
well
after
this
commission
is
here.
So
is
there
like
a
longevity
plan
to
make
sure
or
ensure
once
we
make
you
know
we
will
disband?
How
will
we
see
this
through
and
have
y'all
had
that
conversation
I.
H
H
M
Concrete
plan
at
this
at
this
point,
but
the
conversations
are
getting
that.
Thank
you
for
your
questions.
Thank
you.
Yes,
Sandy
Lake,
Peters
I
was
at
your
first
Community
engagement
meeting
and
there
was
a
lot
of
shared
I.
Guess
a
lot
of
communities
shared
about
education.
Do
you
all
have
any
components
of
Education
as
far
as
whether
it's
acquiring
purchasing
wealth
development
plans?
As
far
as
educating
our
people.
H
In
regards
to
your
tactics,
recommendations,
yes,
thank
you.
It
sounds
a
great
question.
We
have
been
having
conversations
about
what
the
education
piece
could
look
like,
and
we
also
want
to
get
with
the
education
audit
back
to
talk
about
again.
That's
probably
over
that.
So
the
conversation
that
we've
been
having
is
we'll
talk
about
air
property
right
and
how
to
keep
property
within
the
family.
I
mean
educating
people
on
that.
Thank
you.
H
N
H
H
I
wish
I
had
the
answer
to
that
question.
That's
something
different!
Yeah,
that's
something
that
we're
taking
a
deeper
dive
into.
So
we
receive
the
responses
and
Brad
I'll.
Give
you
an
opportunity
to
share
the
comment.
We've
taken
a
deeper
dive
into
it,
but
we
haven't
come
in.
We
haven't
come
up
with
what
that
would
look
like
so
Brad.
If
you
want
to.
P
I
L
L
Now
we
can
utilize
land
for
certain
purposes,
so
that
gives
us
a
lot
more
Authority,
so
we're
researching
what
Avenues
we
would
have
to
be
able
to
utilize
land,
even
if
it's
not
owned
at
the
end
of
the
day
by
the
city
or
the
county,
in
a
way
that
fulfills
a
public
purpose
as
outlined
in
the
statute,
so
that
takes
the
research.
So
that's
what
we're
looking
into
right
now,
seeing
how
we
would
go
about
fulfilling
these
recommendations?
L
H
So
we
meet
the
second
and
third
Wednesday
at
the
lumber,
Community
Center
and
one
of
the
things
that
we're
addressing
with
our
key
harms
and-
and
this
was
shared
at
our
last
meeting
as
well.
So
I
won't
really
go
through
this,
but
I
will
say
that
there
was
a
meeting
that
took
place
at
the
end
of
last
month
on
the
third
Wednesday
and
I
have
some
information
from
that.
H
I
H
Eliminate
racial
disparities
in
the
courts
increase
the
number
of
black
individuals
who
participate
in
a
Justice,
Resource
Center's
diversion
programs
and
what
they
discussed
or
what
are
the
harms
that
will
be
reduced
with
doing
this,
lack
of
black
people
are
unrepresented
in
the
programs.
Unfair
rulings
and
practical
citizens
trauma
disproportionate
sentencing,
disproportionate
fines,
juvenile
criminalization,
increased
education,
educational
and
economic
development
opportunities,
I'm,
looking
at
Better
Health
increased
efforts
of
students
achieving
in
school,
which
will
help
add
more
blacks
to
the
workforce
in
the
community
and
reduce
detention
through
more
individuals,
getting
a
college
education.
H
So
for
those
of
you
who
are
here
from
the
criminal
justice,
I've
had
not
miss
anything
or
if
I
say
something,
that's
not
correct.
Please
help
me
with
that.
I
appreciate
it.
The
other
is
eliminating
racial
disparities
in
the
course
developed
and
Implement
culturally
relevant
Community
focused
sensitivity,
training
and
professional
development
offer
to
support
black
people.
The
harms
that
are
being
reduced
here
are
the
inability
to
Advocate
and
educate,
effectively
work
with
black
people,
misinformation
by
Court
personnel,
and
they
feel
that
the
IFA
that
this
overlaps
with
is
education.
H
An
additional
recommendation
is
invest
in
additional
practices
that
increase
the
safety
and
reduce
the
harmful
effects
of
arrest
of
black
people.
What
Farms
are
addressed
or
reduced
less
fines
and
criminalization
and
they're
asking
for
a
digital
language,
professionally
fund,
an
independent
commission,
as
determined
by
the
Astro
Obama
Recreations
commission,
to
sustain
the
success
and
implement
the
reparations
commission's
recommendations.
H
H
We
imagine
the
Asheville
Police
Department
and
Buncombe
County
Sheriff's
Department
according
to
the
black
news
and
the
and
best
practices
for
Public
Safety.
It's
also
a
recommendation
that
we're
looking
at
and
a
new
recommendation
is
the
immediate
release
of
all
black
people
incarcerated
for
petty
crimes
who
are
being
held
in
the
Detention
Center.
H
And
I
believe
that's
it.
I
will
add
that
we
are
working
on
a
community
engagement
event
for
criminal
justice
as
well.
We're
we
haven't
confirmed
the
date
as
of
yet
but
I
believe
it's
going
to
be
sometime
in
August,
and
so
there
are
some
questions
in
the
survey
that
we're
going
to
put
together
with
the
RJC
to
go
out
to
community
to
get
their
feedback
prior
to
this
meeting
this
community
engagement
meeting
so
that
we
can
kind
of
have
some
feedback
and
then
be
prepared.
H
F
The
question
yes
Christine
Edwards
here
my
question
is:
how
is
your
group
sort
of
prioritizing
or
categorizing
some
of
your
recommendations
in
your
conversations?
Do
you
think
that
some
will
rise
to
the
top
and
and
really
kind
of
have
more
people
get
behind
one
over
the
other
or
in
terms
of
the
criminal
justice
IFA?
Is
it
we
really
want
to
do
all
you
know,
policy
training
policing
all
of
it
or
is
it
you
know?
Are
you
all
having
those
conversations
at
this
point?
We.
H
Q
H
D
Yeah
yeah,
so
one
thing
I'm
almost
part
of
that
group.
Oh
deonna
little
part
of
the
group
too.
One
thing
that
we
have
been
doing
also
the
touch
base
is
like
in
in
multiple
ifas
that
I've
attended
has
been
talking
about
like
how
do
you?
How
do
you
have
one
without
the
other,
because
in
order
for
this
to
be
truly
successful
like
prioritizing
and
hoping
they
choose,
what
you
prioritize
is
one
thing
but
submitting
it
as
this
is.
D
This
is
what
it's
going
to
take
to
see
some
real
impact
in
the
real
shift
and
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
to
really
realize
like
fully
realize
what
our
outcomes
for
this
process
is.
Is
it's
going
to
be
all
you
know
what
I
mean
and
so
like
I
feel
like
like
prioritizing
like
the
term,
maybe
is
what's
throwing
me
out
because
it's
like
we
need
all
of
these.
D
You
can't
have
school
to
prison,
pipeline
reform
and
the
criminal
justice
size
and
decriminalize,
but
the
police
don't
have
training
that
they
need
to
to
be
culturally
conscious
of
who
they
speak
into.
Like
you
can't
a
lot
of
times,
you
can't
have
one
without
the
other,
and
so
as
as
we
continue
to
work
through
it,
that'll
be
like
you're,
probably
going
to
get
all
about.
You
know
what
I
mean,
because
you
cannot
a
lot
of
times.
You
cannot
have
one
without
the
other
of
this
notion
of
prioritizing
or
we
want.
D
This
more
is
not
realistic,
because
the
problem
is
more
than
one
thing
that
we're
addressing
with
the
recommendations
across
all
ifas
they
adjust
and
like
generations
and
generations
of
issues,
and
so
I
just
like
to
caution
the
the
term
of
prioritizing
or
saying.
Oh,
we
want
this.
You
don't
have
to
give
us
this.
If
you
give
us
this
because
that's
not
the
reality,
it
takes
all
of
it
most
of
the
time
in
order
to
really
influence
the
change
that
was
driving
to
pursue.
With
this
as
a
commission
and.
H
Requesting
how
that
could
look
yeah
like
so,
we
will
be
putting
together
proposal
for
criminal
justice
as
well
to
show
or
to
help
the
city
in
the
county
help
us
to
be
able
to
move
this
forward.
T
Did
you
have
a
line
brush
proposal
but
a
line
about
direct
payments,
potentially
a
guaranteed
income
program,
which
is
something
that
which
has
been
piloted
in
100
cities,
at
least
improving
Durham?
So
we
know
that
there's
some
legal
precedent
for
it
in
the
state
of
North
Carolina,
so
in
order
group
is
very
eager
to
think
through
that
and
I'm
happy
to
have
any
input
on
that
recommendation
and
any
other
recommendations
as
well.
But
tonight
you're
going
to
hear
from
Kim
Jones
and
tea
on
two
recommendations.
O
So
our
proposal
is
economic
is
a
Economic
Development
Center
for
black.
The
key
harms
address
multiple
successful
black
communities
have
been
destroyed
and
are
taken
or
urban
renewal
racial
web
Gap,
racial
disparities
in
business
ownership,
disparities
in
Economic,
Development
and
investment
from
the
city
and
county
our
proposal
overview.
We
were
very
excited
at
our
last
meeting
to
discuss
this
is
to
create
an
economic
development
center
for
Small
Business
Development,
Workforce,
Workforce
Development
financial
literacy
in
accessing
Financial
Resources.
O
O
Connect
people
with
grants,
technical
assistance,
training,
incubator
space,
important
to
include
Child
Care
land
for
Farmers.
In
the
this
in
the
building,
we
would
like
to
have
Realtors
lawyers
and
black
owned
financial
institutions
and
a
connection
to
other
ifas
for
Holistic
Solutions,
so
with
the
economic
development
center.
What
was
exciting
about
it
was
a
division,
as
we
were
talking
was
like
this
one
shop
that
would
house
each
of
the
five
ifas
in
it
where
people
can
come
and
we
can
meet
them
where
they
are
hopefully
take
care
as
many
other
of
their
help.
O
We
support
them
in
whatever
it
is
that
they're
feeling
like
they're
needed.
We
have
all
heard
from
different
people
about
what
it
is
that
they're
missing
in
Asheville.
What
we
would
like
to
see-
and
so
we
want
to
get
all
of
that
information
everyone
to
invite
all
of
the
different
IFA
groups
to
come
to
meet
with
us
so
that
we
can
work
more
on
this
plan.
O
All
looking
forward
to
being
with
the
other
IFA
groups,
the
services
will
incorporate
all
other
ifas
with
economic
development,
and
we
will
be
discussing
this
proposal
at
the
next
IFA
meeting
on
Thursday
July
6th.
So
we
hope
that
our
commission
members
and
the
public
are
invited
to
come
and
to
give
input
and
then
I'll
pass
it
over
today.
U
Thank
you.
Everyone
just
a
pleasure
to
be
here
and
just
talk
about
some
of
the
tangibles
did.
Is
there
a
copies?
Are
there
copies
of
the
performers.
U
The
reason
why
we
did
these
are
a
numbers
that
came
as
a
result
of
the
sixth
Legacy
black
neighborhoods,
and
some
of
them
have
been
more
intentional
and
intensive
about
their
planning
than
others,
but
they
these
plans
at
Lane
fallow
for
over
10
years,
and
specifically,
we
looked
at
some
of
the
cost
data
that
was
given
to
us
and
Dwayne
Barton
and
Burton
Street
had
probably
been
gone
a
little
bit
farther
than
others
in
terms
of
talking
about
a
small
business
incubator,
the
other
neighborhoods,
one
of
the
things
that
I
did
do
was
look
at.
U
The
fact
that
was
was
the
cost
out,
a
per
square
footage
cost
of
maybe
placing
that
incubator
over
at
Burton
Street
in
the
basement
of
that
facility.
One
of
the
things
that
we
and
which
I
guess
I
operate
from
is
tangibility
bottom
line
budgets.
This
is
a
proposal.
This
is
not
just
talk,
and
so,
as
we
come
to
a
close,
it
looks
like
we
need
to
do
more,
walking
and
talking
or
at
least
doing
the
walking.
U
At
the
same
time,
we
talk
and
most
people
who
are
business,
people
function
with
ecologics
and
proposals,
and
so
it
looks
like
what
we've
done
is
we've
not
only
costed
out
the
incubator
for
Bourbon
Street,
but
we
also
costed
out
the
approximate
plenary
or
planning
costs
for
each
of
the
six.
U
Even
though
a
lot
of
them
are
gentrified
and
gone,
we
feel
like
those
planting
dollars
which
are
92.
000
per
neighborhood
could
take
care
of
hiring
Consultants
or
whoever
to
come
in
to
find
out
exactly
what
y'all
would
want
to
do.
The
other
costs
that
are
accumulated
are
what
we
call
Rick
and
Morty
cost,
and
those
are
about
all
together
about
1.7
million
dollars.
U
If
you've
got
the
sheets,
you'll
see
the
top
sheet
with
the
six
black
neighborhoods,
they
run
about
552
thousand
dollars,
that's
92
000
each
for
planning
and
also
that's
pretty
much
what
that
is,
but
then
also,
we've
included
the
construction
cost
for
Burton
Street
at
about
1.2
million
dollars
along
with
some
operating
costs.
So
if.
U
Neighborhoods,
like
Chestnut
Hills,
which
are
pretty
much
dissipated,
I,
was
raised
in
that
neighborhood
and
pretty
much
it's
become
almost
all
gentrified
if
they
would
want
to
get
together
and
use
that
money
they're
donated
over
to
another
neighborhood.
That
would
be
up
to
you
if
you
want
to
use
it
to
plan
some
other
things
that
are
ancillary
you
could,
but
at
least
we've
given
you
starting
points
and.
C
U
U
It
may
not
be
enough
money,
but
one
thing
about
budgets
is
you've
got
to
start
somewhere
and
bricks
and
mortar
are
a
perfect
place
that
we
want
to
build
an
incubator
incubators,
if
you
know,
or
not,
SB
tdc's
or
not
small
business,
centers,
they're
used
to
train
people
and
then
move
them
out
into
the
private
sector,
I
believe
when
what
we
were
talking
about
as
a
minority
business
development
center,
which
is
a
well-proven
concept,
and
so
but
I
did
want
to
put
this
in
a
tangible
form.
Thank
you.
Thank.
V
U
U
You've
got
something
like
at
Inca
campus,
where
you
would
have
the
facility
where
they
can
come
in
and
maybe
prepare
some
things.
T
U
V
A
business
incubator,
so
if
you,
when
we
look
around
our
communities
of
our
black
people,
most
of
the
businesses
are
restaurants.
That's
what
they're
trying
to
start
a
lot
of
them
are
restaurants,
and
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
when
you're
looking
at
basements,
you
are
looking
at.
You
know
something
Sim
similar
to
where
you
can
put
in
some
hoods
and
all
that
it
wouldn't.
U
D
Knowing
you
are
there
any
more
questions
for
this
group,
so
we
move
into
follow-up
discussion
and
we
have
10
minutes
for
any
other
discussions
with
the
collective
of
presentation.
So
if
y'all
have
any
more
questions
or
things
y'all
would
like
to
discuss
about
what
you've
seen
from
my
updates
now
is
the
time.
K
I
guess
this
question
again:
this
is
Tiffany
down
below
this
goes
to
both
ifas
I
presented,
so
I
love.
The
budget
I
appreciate
that,
what's
the
difference
between
what
the
economic,
what
the
housing
I
believe
development
is
speaking
in
terms
of
getting
back
the
land
and
then
refurbishing
or
revitalizing
these
current
Parks
and
Rec
buildings
or
put
any
sense.
U
I
would
like
to
address
that
this
is
D
Williams.
One
of
the
things
that
I
look
at
is
not
only
urban
renewal
land
but
all
City
on
land.
It
would
be
a
Fitting
Place
to
locate
a
small
business
incubator,
as
is
the
Burton
Street
Center,
but
there
are
other
underutilized
City
buildings
that
these
would.
That
would
also
adequately
fit,
and
that
is
why
we're
preparing
to
give
hopefully
have
enough
money
where
the
various
six
neighborhoods
could
come
in
with
their
ideas
and
create
whatever
they
would
want
to
be.
U
Perhaps
they
see
a
building,
they
want
that
the
city
has
that
they
might
want
to
put
an
Enterprise
in.
M
You
yes,
we'll
stop
doing.
Peters
I
just
want
to
say
that
love
the
idea.
The
Hub
the
education
IFA,
actually
have
a
similar
recommendation
that
we've
got
Brewing.
Some
a
lot
of
us
were
smelling
when
we
saw
you
present
that
so
I
think
that,
just
as
a
model
for
recommendations
is
that
all
I
understand
should
look
to
have
something
of
a
hug
is
a
part
of
a
recommendation.
I
mean
that
that's
something
that's
feasible.
M
It
gives
back
and
it
leaks
everything
that
we're
trying
to
do
together
so
that
our
people
can
come
and
and
eat
and
get
fed
without
having
to
go
all
across
where
they
are
so
I
think
this
is
a
good
model
for
something
special
and
so
I'm
glad
to
see
that
another
infa
is
on
board
with
the
thinking
cap
like,
like
others,
are
so.
A
This
is
Dwight
Mullen,
your
The
Economic
Development
Center,
really
on
it.
I.
P
A
To
have
one
component
in
that,
once
it's
established
that
it's
operating
budgets,
it's
it's
maintenance.
It's
it's
physicality
becomes
part
of
the
annual
appropriations
of
the
city
and
the
county
as
a
joint
effort.
Our
community
is,
does
not
have
the
resources
necessary
to
sustain
many
institutions
without
joint
supports
from
the
city
of
Brooklyn
County.
But
if
we
put
it
up,
we
should
be
able
to
guarantee
this
continuation.
U
You
know
I'm,
so
sorry,
I
I
meant
to
interject
one
of
the
things
I'm
glad
the
city
manager
is
sitting
here,
because
we
talked
about
Community
benefits,
and
that
is
something
the
city
has
taken
up
on
our
behalf.
But
one
of
the
things
that
we
probably
need
to
do
is
become
more
Adept
at
negotiating
for
ourselves,
because
once
we
identify
our
hubs,
we
can
do
like
LA
and
Detroit
did.
When
hoteliers
come
in
and
develop,
we
can
negotiate
for
money
for
our
own
hugs.
K
This
is
Tiffany
my
final
question.
This
is,
to
the
whole,
the
entire
reparations
commission.
Do
we
or
have
your
ifas,
been
talking
about
like
a
contingency
plan
or
if,
in
case
our
recommendations
are
shot
down?
We
have
a
plan
b
or
we
know
which
way
to
go
so
that
we're
not
stifle
in
our
movement,
and
you
can
answer
that
or
we
can.
You
know
unpack
it
later,
but.
U
We
need
to
create
a
Lisa
Monero
institution,
a
chair,
a
foundation
or
whatever
I
mean
it's
up
to
y'all.
How
you
want
to
do
that
something
to
a
vessel
that
will
hold
that
if
you
will
a
Community,
Development
Corporation,
don't
know
if
that's
appropriate,
but
whatever
you
do
need
to
do
that,
and
then,
with
that
entity
in
place
and
the
the
the
the
thought
process
intact
and
and
everything
cogent
I,
don't
see
a
reason
why
this
would
not
be
brought
to
fruition.
I
do
not
see
that
because
we
need
it.
U
W
And
I
think
too,
we
should
have
people
focusing
on
certain
aspects
of
this,
like
some
people
check
the
harm,
some
lay
the
landscape
and
some
Implement
and
sustain
I
I,
keep
saying
that,
but
we're
not
moving
towards
that.
So
we
don't
have
everybody
in
the
traffic
jam
on
one
subject
that
this
is
a
big
deal
we
need
to.
We
have
enough
talent
in
the
room
to
make
this
hustle
real
sure.
W
U
N
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
lift
up
again
kind
of
going
back
to
the
opening
of
The
Box
by
a
chair
about
us
defining
what
revolutions
are,
and
you
know,
if
you're
a
body,
that's
agreed
to
give
recommendations
to
give
reparations.
You
don't
Define.
What
reparations
are
you
allow?
The
people
that
are
part
of
the
commission
part
of
the
community
to
actually
Define
that
so
the
restrictions
that
may
be
in
place
are
not
something
that
I
don't
think
we
as
Commissioners
should
actually
ABI.
N
We
have
to
actually
Define
what
it
is
that
we
want
in
order
to
repair
the
harm
that
has
been
done
to
us
and
leave
it
to
the
attorneys
to
kind
of
figure
out
what
the
challenges
are
after
that,
but
I
think
we
have
to
lift
up
the
things
that
we
need
in
order
to
repair
the
arms
so
that
we
all
black
folks
and
the
rest
of
the
folks
in
the
world
could
actually
improve
our
relationships
and
move
forward.
F
We're
doing
pretty
good
on
time
we're
at
6
50
we're
scheduled
to
move
to
Old
business.
Do
you
want
to
see
if
there's
any
other
comments,
yeah.
X
Dwayne
McAfee
the
chair
started
out
our
meeting
talking
about.
We
should
not
be
taking
anything
off
today
and
I,
especially
appreciate
that,
because
that's
been
one
of
the
things
I've
been
harping
on,
we
have
our
own
personal
opinions
about
reparations,
but
when
it
comes
to
the
committee,
I
would
like
and
hope
that
we
can
start
talking
with
one
voice.
X
So
anyone
that
has
suggested
that
cash
should
not
be
on
the
table.
I
have
disagreed
with
immediately.
X
There
is
nothing
that
should
be
off
on
the
table.
We
have
been
Shackled
and
in
bondage
throughout
our
history.
Let's
not
shackle
ourselves
right
now.
Let's
be
bold,
let's
think
bold,
and
let's
stop
asking
for
stuff
and
start
demanding.
I
hate
this
asking
I'm
not
asking
for
anything
I'm
demanding
that
there's
a
change
I'm
demanding
that
there's
accountability.
X
We
need
a
hug
I,
so
appreciate
different
groups.
Talking
about
a
building
a
community
I,
don't
care
what
we
call
it,
but
there
needs
to
be
a
place
where
we
can
all
get
information,
Under,
One
Roof.
It
should
have
already
been
done
and
that's
where
overlap
needs
to
take
place
on
all
of
the
ifas
every
IFA.
We
won't
overlap
in
this
area.
We
want
a
space,
we
want
it
immediately,
if
not
yesterday,
please
people.
E
E
F
I
wanted
to
make
a
suggestion
and
just
see
what
the
chair
and
vice
chair
think
about
this
with
the
agenda.
We
have
our
own
business
schedule
up
next,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
sufficient
time
to
talk
about
the
agenda
topics
for
the
retreat.
So
I
was
wondering
if
we
could
move
item
a
up
and
hear
from
our
speakers
for
five
minutes
and
then
go
back
to
Old
business.
K
Q
Y
Is
stuck
in
traffic
so
if
she
walks
through
we're
just
gonna
all.
Y
But
I
am
Elizabeth
Garland
and
I
am
the
project
manager
for
arturia
Collective
with
the
youth
documentation
team?
That's
standing
behind
me.
Y
Y
Y
All
right,
and
so
with
that
I
think
when
we
talk
about
what
the
why
right,
why
are
we
doing
this?
It's
the
intergenerational
dialogue
that
we
should
be
having
it's
the
building
and
shaping
stories.
It's
also
celebrating
our
similarities
and
then
also
our
differences
and
then
providing
and
empowering
young
people.
So
I'm
going
to
step
back
and
let
some
of
our
young
people
talk
about
their
experience
on
what
they've
been
doing
and
so
I
know.
I
would
love
to
invite
e
to
come
up
to
them.
Would
you
like
to
share.
Z
Z
Ashes
youth
reparations
documentation,
team
and
what
I
do
or
part
of
that
is
I
interview
and
I,
guess
you
could
say,
take
notes
on
different
people
that
are
I
would
say
prominent
and
prevalent
within
the
actual
black
Asheville
community
and
actual
community
in
general,
just
to
give
an
insight
and
see
about
their
views
and
what
they
think
about
how
we
can
distribute
actual
preparations,
and
what
can
we
do
and
what
part
of
actual
care
to
put
it
in
like,
for
example,
like
maybe
for
like
mental
health
or
education
or
housing
like
things
like
that,
one
person
I
know
I
did
interview
with
this
Dr
Dwight
Mullen
for
and
how
he
his
point
of
view
and
his
perspective
on.
Z
You
know
what
goes
on
within
how
he
conducts
in
worth
these
things
and
how
he
feels
like
over
the
next
few
years.
What
will
actually
be,
and
how
can
we
should
be
these
Journal?
That
is
what
I
do.
E
P
AA
I
J
A
People
don't
worry
about
life,
they
were
worried
about
eating
living
inside.
They
don't
worry
about
the
health
care
when
they
need
something
it's
available
and
if
that's
possible,
then
it's
possible.
But
let's
do
that.
You
know
what
I
think
you
know
I'm
doing
taxes
right,
I'm,
looking
at
people
who
are
paying
no
taxes.
W
A
Miserable
life
and
parents,
no
taxes,
why
can
we
have
an
economic
model
that
at
least
meets
the
basic
needs
to
create
a
Humane
Society
and
translate
that
into
ways
that
are
viable
through
our
institutions
and
I?
Think
it's
inevitable
is.
If
it
was
it's
not
happening,
you
know,
answers
all
businesses.
A
Y
Thank
you,
okay,
so
if
we
could
take
it
back
to
the
entire
slideshow,
thank
you
yay
Logan,
all
right,
so
the
full
video
will
be
available
to
see,
and
it
is
something
that
is
absolutely
amazing.
I
do
want
to
kind
of
bring
some
of
our
young
people
up
again
and
see
like
what
they
think
in
terms
of
changes
that
they
want
to
see
in
their
community
foreign.
I
AA
I
wish
there
was
more
progress
for
black
athletes
as
well,
especially
when
athletes
to
get
the
kind
of
the
help
that
they
need
to
go
further
in
their
athletic
careers,
but
also
if
they
need
like
for
their
bodies
as
well,
not
as
like
nourishment,
but
also
what
they
can
do
when
in
terms
of
physical
therapy,
to
make
sure
that
they
go
in
the
long
run.
They
go
to
distance.
They
get
to
see
them
at
the
Olympics.
AA
Being
someone
who
wants
to
go
into
physical
therapy
to
care
to
the
black
female
athletes
and
also
black
pregnant
women
I
would
love
that
there
is
like
more
resources
that
were
accessible
and
affordable,
that
our
high
school
students
and
middle
school
students
can
also
get
into
and
using
that
their
parents
know
of
okay.
Z
I,
don't
think
I've
missed
money,
the
first
time
my
name
is
Eden
Mosley
and
there
even
I
would
like
to
see
a
lot
of
teenagers
like
food
insecurities
like
having
especially
lower
class
black
communities
being
able
to
eat
healthy
in
our
conventional
Foods.
Z
And
so
usually
within
those
areas,
it's
a
lot
of
unhealthy
food
choices
and
so
making
air
being
letting
you
be
able
to
make
those
Foods
affordable,
because
everybody
deserves
to
live
a
long,
healthy
life,
not
just
the
people
they
can
afford
in
a
team
or
be
able
to
obtain
those
Foods.
Also,
mental
health
I
would
like
to
see
more
I
guess,
distribution
with,
like
therapists
and
social
work
within
on
the
black
community.
Z
You
know,
generational
trauma
really
does
take
control
on
our
mental
health,
and
even
though
sometimes
you
may
not
see
it
things
you
do
within
your
life
can
come
from
or
contribute
from
generational
trauma.
If
you
might
not
know,
and
also
like
what
Imani
said
with
Healthcare,
especially
for
internal
health,
the
still
birth
rate
amongst
black
women
has
one
up.
Now
it
is
five
times
more
likely
than
their
white
counterparts
and
also
the
black
woman
mortality
rate.
One
giving
birth
has
also
went
up
from
three
percent
to
3.5
percent
times
more
likely
to
died
during
childbirth.
P
My
mouse
clerk
I'd
like
to
see
with
the
school
systems,
because
right
now,
my
father
Works
in
school
systems,
and
he
always
talks
about
how
the
more
troubled
kids
they
don't
really
have
anywhere
to
go
sometimes,
and
he
feels
that
the
school
doesn't
necessarily
give
them
the
tools
to
help
those
children's
help
us
check
those
children
through
it
and
we
kind
of
support
them
in
any
way.
Rather
than
just
send
them
such
attention
or
send
them
home
they're
not
really
being
the
support
they
need.
Y
Y
Q
Y
K
Hey
devlo
here
again
great
job,
everyone.
Thank
you.
My
question
is
around
I
know
that
your
voice
is
being
heard
because
you're
part
of
this
project,
but
as
you're
in
your
day-to-day
routine
in
school,
have
you
been
having
more
conversation
with
your
peers
around
reparations?
Have
they
asked
you
about
what
you're
doing
in
terms
of
this
particular
project.
Z
See
I
go
to
a
pwi
I
go
to
Carolina
Day
School,
it
is
in
private
for
Wyatt
institutions.
Z
So
therefore
have
issues
so
I
can't.
Z
To
my
parents,
about
it,
I
am
a
school
Community
leader
that
do
hold
these
conversations.
So
I
can't
say
yes,
I
do,
but
it
is
not
easy
to
give
that
I
am
only
one
of
you
at
a.
AA
Hello,
one
thing
that
I
usually
talk
about
from
my
perspective
is
the
original
opening
class
ambassadors
program,
where
you
focus
on
integrating
more
culture
into
our
school
curriculum
and
having
teachers,
make
sure
and
talk
about
different
cultures
within
our
school
and
it
being
taught
and
not
just
talking
about
white
culture
and
what
the
white
man
wants
us
to
know
about
history.
AA
And
so
one
thing
that
we
talk
about
day
to
day
is
like:
how
can
we,
how
can
teachers
we
teach
teachers
how
to
be
more
racially
aware
and
to
not
just
kind
of
share
code
things
and
not
be
able
to
rock
the
bush
anymore,
but
to
actually
like
have
those
tough
conversations
and
it's
been
hard,
because
what
are
you
going
to
talk
about
in
math
class,
but
you
can
still
talk
about
the
different
mathematicians
that
are
around
and
things
like
that.
So
thank
you.
Imani.
A
Technically
or
we
should
be
going
to
be
under
Roman
numeral,
six
Retreat
agenda
topics,
but
if
you
don't
mind,
I'd
like
to
collect
your
cards
and
go
directly
to
new
business,
offering
B
and
here
from
the
Legacy
Community,
the
Legacy
bedroom
is,
if
you
have
items
you
would
like
to
see
on
the
retreat
agenda
to
please
use
the
index
cards
and
write
them
up
and
send-in-laws,
but
for
purposes
of
giving
enough
time
for
presentation
and
then
the
round
table
of
Commissioners
I'd
like
to
go
to
B
and
hear
from
the
Legacy
communities.
A
F
Thank
you.
So,
as
you
can
see,
we
have
to
have
several
Legacy
neighborhoods,
but
just
for
today
we
are
just
going
to
hear
from
one
of
the
Legacy
neighborhoods
and
then
we're
hoping
that
in
future
meetings,
we're
going
to
invite
more
to
come
in
and
speak
on
these
questions
and
it's
an
informal
presentation
but
we're
hoping
to
hear
about
what
planning
efforts
are
underway
in
your
neighborhood
or
Community.
F
W
Brooklyn
Street
Community
is
a
burden,
Street
neighborhood,
being
trying
to
work
with
DOT
to
get
maximum
benefit
or
plan
we
created
around
2010
and
that
process
has
been
a
little
challenging.
It's
been
like,
like
a
it's,
been
a
little
challenging
to
get
support
from
institutions
and
other
organizations
to
add
some
additional
capacity
to
to
what
the
community
laid
out
about
what
they
want
would
like
to
see
for
their
neighborhood.
W
W
Please
give
you,
and
we
was
just
hoping
that
we
could
get
a
little
bit
more
support
around
getting
maximum
benefit
for
this
highway
expansion.
This
being
the
third
time
that
the
highway
project
like
this
was
coming
through
our
neighborhood
and
even
though
we've
been
designated
as
an
environmental
justice
community.
W
We,
in
my
opinion,
haven't
seen
that
Rush
of
support
that
we
like
another
planning
thing
that's
going
on,
is
that
neighborhood
is
flipping
it's
a
lot
of
new
people
coming
in
and
if
you
ask
them
and
they're
very
happy
to
be
in
the
community.
So
what
we
try
to
do
is
map
the
neighborhood
and
get
those
new
individuals
in
the
community
to
understand
where
they
move
to
and
understand
what
the
past
and
future
challenges
are.
W
Something
else
is
going
on
in
our
neighborhood
is
like
we're.
Trying
to
plan
like
the
city
is
planning
on
redeveloping
the
Burton
Street,
the
outside
of
the
Burton
Street
Community
Center,
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
position
young
people
and
adults
who
live
in
that
Community
to
rebuild
and
be
the
ones
that's
hired
to
do
that
work
a
lot
of
times.
We
remember
when
our
structures
and
our
neighborhoods
have
been
torn
down
and
I.
W
Think
now
is
the
time
that
we
can
plug
in
our
young
people
and
adults
to
help
rebuild
those
spaces,
so
they're
trying
to
work
with
whoa
and
the
guy
over
the
city
Department
to
try
to
figure
out
okay.
How
do
we
make
this
real
and
the
real
reason
we're
trying
to
do
this,
because
we
want
to
create
a
blueprint
that
we
can
replicate
in
other
communities?
It's
just
not
just
work
street.
It's
it's
for
the
entire
city,
but
some
one
Community
has
to
take
the
lead
to
you
know,
show
everybody
what
it
could
look
like.
W
Other
things
happening
in
that
neighborhood
is
like
what
up
here.
I
got
all
these
players
and
I
showed
it
at
my
five
faith
for
all
these
different
initiatives
that
we
put
out
when
we
tried
to
flip
and
turn
to
Burton
Street
Center
into
the
E.W
Pearson
Center
of
innovation.
We
went
and
do
went
through.
It
even
put
some
numbers
up
on
this
one,
and
we
had
4.5
million.
W
W
about
putting
the
Technology
Center
in
the
basement
for
this,
but
there's
another
plan,
the
neighborhood
created
you
know
motivated
to
do
something
to
improve
itself
and
that's
a
2011.
another
one.
We
did
was
this
African-American
infrastructure
and
Facilities
projects,
and
this
I
see
on
the
earliest
slide
with
the
numbers.
It
talked
about
hiring
a
consultant,
but
we
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
consultants
in
the
neighborhood
that
just
be
overlooked
and
not
value.
W
So
in
this
one
we
put
some
more
numbers
on
this
one
like:
how
do
we
get
people
from
the
neighborhood
to
you
know,
put
money
in
their
hands
to
be
the
ones
who
helped
rebuild
their
community?
This
is
another
one.
We
did
this
experience
2017..
This
is
what
we
did
when
we
broke
down
the
numbers
too.
We
broke
out
of
numbers
for
our
comprehensive
plan
for
youth
adults,
consultants
and
they
would
you
know
so
it's
broken
out.
W
So
you
run
the
first
pilot
in
the
neighborhood
who
can
align
all
these
people
from
the
neighborhood
and
then
you
would
you
were
replicated
and
shallow
and
even
the
other
housing
communities
so
that
last
question
I
want
to
say.
Is
you
said?
What
can
the
community
restore
of
Justice
restorative
justice
is
at
least,
and
we
jump
into
all
these
hoops.
We
gotta
know
how
hard
it
is
to
get
up
African-American
Community
to
come
together
and
create
plans
for
itself,
but
it's
historically
been
crushed
and
smashed.
W
W
But
the
city
is
on
the
hook
for
building
and
restoring
the
infrastructure
at
the
emergency
Community
Center,
based
on
the
highway
expansion.
That's
in
a
plan.
They
are
obligated
to
check
off
the
box
to
do
the
the
revitalization
of
the
emergency
Community
Center,
but
because
we've
been
waiting
so
long
to
to
make
it
real.
We
decided
that
we
would
go
ahead
and
let
our
communities
have
always
did
our
communities
didn't
wait
for
somebody
to
come
and
help
them
do
it.
W
W
So
we're
not
waiting
and
we're
trying
to
live.
We're
building
a
business
incubate
on
Burton
Street,
that's
directly
tied
to
the
highway
expansion
and
I'm
yeah,
and
it
was
so
blowing
my
mind
because
I
know
how
much
work
and
effort
it
takes
to
do
something
like
this.
That
I
don't
see.
No
momentum
coming
our
way
and
we've
been
able
to
raise
1.5
million
dollars
and
more
money
on
the
way,
but
the
local
institutions
and
organizations
are
still
moving
in
slow
motion
and
I.
Don't
understand
yeah
some
other
things
that's
going
on.
W
D
So
we
are
now
about
to
have
the
go
back
to
Old
business.
The
audit
RFP.
F
Update
yes,
so
this
is
going
to
be
a
very
quick
update.
The
audit
RFP
has
closed
it
closed
on
June,
8th
and
Buncombe.
County
has
received
proposals
from
vendors,
and
now
we
are
going
to
be
starting
the
evaluation
and
selection
process
I'm.
Looking
at
I'm
looking
at
Buncombe
County
over
here,
just
to
kind
of
confirm,
that's
it
really
as
much
as
we
can
share.
At
this
point
we've
received
proposals,
the
RFP
is
still
on
track
to
be.
F
The
auditor
is
still
on
track
to
be
approved
and
selected
by
I
want
to
say
July,
3rd
or
the
week
of
July
3rd,
and
there
are
several
members
of
the
commission
that
are
on
the
selection
committee,
so
that
is
already
built
in
and
stay
tuned.
Okay,
I
think
that's
as
much
as
we
can
share
all.
F
The
there
are
topics
suggested
topics
are
on
page
30,
which
is
in
the
back
of
your
packet
and
again
these
are
suggested
topics,
because
we
we
don't.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
missing
anything,
but
we
wanted
to
just
provide
some
suggestions
to
start
the
conversation
and
also
for
the
retreat.
The
date
has
been
confirmed
for
Saturday
July
29th,
the
time
we're
looking
at
10
A.M
to
3
it
it
could
change
if
we
need
it
to,
but
we're
looking
at
10
A.M
to
3
P.M
and
we're
looking
at
the
the
space.
F
Is
this
room?
So
it's
going
to
be
here
at
the
the
Harris
Center
for
the
retreat.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
go
through
some
of
these
topics
or
how
would
you
want
to
just
hear
from
folks?
Okay.
D
So
I
would
like
to
open
it
up
for
comments
all
right
there.
Any
comments
on
the
potential
agenda,
topics
and
flow
of
the
retreat
agenda.
D
AA
K
Again,
just
in
terms
of
the
time
ten
to
three
is
there
a
possibility
possibility
to
make
it
a
little
earlier
that
that
is
the
last
Saturday
where
we
host
Black,
love
and
I
mean
I?
Know
it's
not
just
about
me
and
what's
going
on,
but
if
I
can
just
ask
that
we,
and
maybe
at
two
instead
of
three
yeah,
would
that
push
us
to
have
to
go
to
nine
and.
D
Would
that
be
too
much?
So
that's
not
too
early.
Okay,
for
me,
I
think
my
I'll
be
having
to
get
my
my
child,
my
kids
situated.
So
that's
a
different
time
thing
so
now
it
would
be
too
early
for
me,
but
I'm
not
sure
I
will
move.
However,
the
commission
would
like
to
move
on
the
time
it
doesn't
like.
I
will
make
adjustments
if
I
need
to.
A
K
Make
note
of
it
thank
you
and
I
have
one
more
items,
so
under
governance
and
next
steps.
The
second
bullet
discuss
and
prioritize
remaining
project
timeline.
Is
there
any
room
to
make
a
suggestion
that
we
extend
this
project?
Yes,
you
can
wake.
AB
AB
V
Harrison
is
there
any
time
for
any
breakout
sessions
for
different
groups
to
be
individually,
say:
housing
me
with
education,
health
and
wellness
with
education,
different
different
groups,
because
the
education
part
is
a
big
piece
of
this
reparations.
So
at
some
point
all
of
the
IFA
groups
needs
to
be
talking
to
education
about
what
we
need
to
do.
Is
there
a
time
for
breakout
sessions.
G
D
AC
D
Yeah,
it
was
a
link
in
the
email.
It's.
T
D
That
connects
to
a
profile
of
her
okay.
Thank
you.
F
I
could
give
you
some
context
on
that
if
you
go
to
trauma-informed,
institute.com
you'll
be
able
to
read
about
her
organization
and
the
reason
that
we're
looking
at
this
facilitator
is
because
she
has
a
lot
of
experience
in
leading
groups
through
sort
of
grounding
and
collaboration,
especially
that
groups
that
are
impacted
by
trauma
and
I
think
that
from
what
I'm
hearing,
that
is
one
of
the
elements
that
has
been
missing
from
this
process.
This
idea
of
healing
and
approaching
talking
amongst
one
another
about
healing
and
how
that
happens.
N
B
D
N
Recommendations:
okay,
I
have
a
recommendation
for
Dr
lavender.
If
that's,
if
that's
possible,
because
I
think
I
think
she's
done
a
great
job
with
the
education,
I
think
and
I
think
that
the
commission
benefits
from
utilizing
her
expertise
heard.
I
AC
Z
A
You
know,
while
you
all,
are
contemplating
the
retreat
in
this
formation
than
topics
and
all
I
have
a
suggestion
that
I
personally
appreciate
it
I
think
so
many
of
you
who
have
deep
Asheville
Roots
you
take
it
for
granted
that
we
know
who
you're
talking
about
and
one
of
the
issues
of
urban
removal
if
you're
confronting,
is
that
if
we're
talking
about
property
just
as
one
example,
we
can
go
into
the
other
eye
phase
two.
A
It
would
help
to
know
the
people
who
were
actually
displaced
the
names
of
the
people
who
are
actually
disposed.
That's
true,
it's
personal,
but
it's
also
important
in
terms
of
how
do
we
give
it
back,
and
we
don't
know
who
you
are,
but
also
these
people
may
not
be
around
anymore
or
they
may
not
have
heirs.
Then
we
need
to
talk
about
the
nature
of
the
community
to
whom
that
land
should
be
given
back.
A
So
if
you
could
think
periodically
a
name
come
to
you
jot
it
down,
send
it
to
us.
That
would
be
really
good
as
we
accumulate
that
information
is
just
not
available.
So
we
ran
into
a
number
of
expenses
that
we
couldn't
trace
the
families.
AD
So
let
me
give
you
an
example
for
the
Martin
Luther
King
statue
is
it
in
the
park.
There
was
a
house
there
and
that
house
was
there
and
there
was
an
older
couple
louder.
Please.
There
was
an
older
couple
that
lived
in
that
house
there
and
when
urban
renewal
came
through,
they
couldn't
keep
it
up,
and
so
they
ended
up
I
think
going
over
to
Klondike
and
they
finished
their
life
in
Klondike
I.
Don't
think
any
of
their
descendants
are
in
Asheville
anymore.
AD
So,
like
you
said
when
it
gets
to
that,
it's
like
okay,
here's
a
family.
What's
effective,
none
of
them
live
here
anymore,
but
they
were
greatly
affected
by
what
had
happened
to
them
because
after
a
while
you
don't
you
don't
have
anything
to
come
back
to
grab.
It
is
almost
like.
We
sell
grandmother's
house
grandma's
house.
Sometimes
that
would
break
up
the
whole
family
and
you
don't
have
anything
to
come
back
to
so
I
think
that's
that's
one
project
we
should
take
on
I.
AD
R
R
What
I
want
to
say
is
there
are
those
of
us
in
this
room
that
were
raised
up
during
that
era,
so
we
know
the
harm
we
felt
the
harm.
Those
are
the
stories
that
you
would
like
to
hear.
I
think
that
would
be
something
that,
during
the
retreat
that
you
might
want
to
hear
and
as
I
look
back
of
being
raised
in
stocktown,
we
can't
get
some
time
back,
but
we
can't
keep
talking
about
what
used
to
be.
We
got
to
that's.
R
What's
pulling
us
back,
we
got
to
start
talking
about
what
we're
going
to
do
going
forward,
because
we
can't
we
can't.
We
can't
replace
all
of
them.
I
can
tell
you
the
names
of
people
in
Stumptown,
where
my
street
is
still
there,
but
the
people
over
from
me
that
lost
all
I
can
tell
you
their
names,
because
we
were
all
like
this.
R
So
I
know
where
they
are
I
know
who
they
are.
I
know
what
happened
to
them
and
all
of
them
that
I
know
had
to
end
up
going
to
Hillcrest.
That's
what
it
went
and
other
people
know
we
got
people
over
in
Bartlett
arms
that
lost
their
homes
in
South
Side,
the
generations
that
could
not
do
any
better
than
us
still
in
that.
So
we're
going
to
talk
about
that.
That
would
be
something
that
we
could
really
talk
about
at
the
retreat.
R
So
you
all
that
have
don't
know
that
experience,
don't
know
how
we
felt
because
we're
still
dealing
with
the
harm
we're
still
living
the
heart.
Believe
me,
everything
from
education,
Economic,
Development,
housing,
all
Health
disparities,
all
of
that
we're
living
there
now
and
I
always
say
we
probably
have
PTSD
from
what
we
experience.
So
those
stories
would
be
poignant
and
important.
I
think.
N
I
had
a
couple
of
points
as
part
of
the
agenda
for
the
retreat.
If
we
could
not
forget
about
black
people
that
were
former
residents
of
Asheville
or
Buncombe
County,
maybe
Fourth
South
because
of
harms.
Maybe
that's
something
we
consider
when
we're
having
discussions
and
then
I
just
wanted
to
ask
a
question
about
I'm.
Seeing
a
sign
up
going
around
for
this
reparations
conversations.
Can
I
hear
some
more
about
what
that
is.
J
F
I
think
that's
a
good
question,
so
that
is
a
paper
version
of
the
sign
up
that
I
sent
out
over
email.
Dr
Mullen
has
offered
to
host
small
group
informal
conversations
at
Berry
Temple
and
those
were
a
couple
of
the
dates
that
were
offered.
Is
there
any
other
dates?
I
will
definitely
coordinate
and
put
it
together
for
y'all.
A
The
idea
behind
it
was
that
we
can
discuss
things
without
a
quorum
in
a
much
more
Franken
and
if
we
could
do
it
as
a
precursor
to
The
Retreat
good.
If
we
need
to
do
it
as
a
follow-up
to
The
Retreat,
that's
fine
too,
but
I
thought
that.
F
D
So
please
sign
up
on
the
sheet.
I
think
this
conversation
is
definitely
going
to
be
fruitful
to
be
able
to
have
open
conversation.
D
X
I
forget
the
young
people's
names
in
the
organizer.
My
name
is
Dwayne
McAfee.
One
thing
is
we're
talking
about
making
sure
that
we
can
identify
through
Urban
manure
families
that
were
displaced.
One
of
our
first
meetings.
X
And
it
seems
like
to
me,
we
have
a
wonderful
organization
sitting
right
here.
We
should
figure
out
a
way
to
empower
them
to
go
out
into
the
community
and
talk
to
the
Elders
of
our
community.
If
we
really
want
to
start
getting
some
names,
let's
use
these
people
who
would
be
better
to
have
the
names
than
the
Elders
of
the
communities.
X
X
A
X
V
U
V
V
They
will
not
remember
all
the
people
that
around
you
I
mean
because
it
was
so
many
and
so
many
people
moved
in
and
out
people
moved
out
of
neighborhoods
moved
around
in
the
neighborhood
people
moved
out
of
the
state
out
of
the
I
mean
yes
they're,
just
everywhere
it's
if
you,
if
you
were
born
and
raised
in
Asheville,
you
know
just
about
everybody
and
every
family
I
don't
care
if
they
lived
in
Stumptown
I,
don't
care
if
they
live
in
Shallow.
You
know
people
in
Asheville
yeah.
J
V
AB
I
D
N
I
was
really
happy
to
hear
the
youth
I
think
about
the
youth
project.
N
They
should
be
really
involved
in
this
as
it's
going
on
and
I
think
it's
a
great
opportunity
really
to
do
interviews
of
people
in
the
community
to
really
learn
that
aspect
that
some
of
you
said
we
don't
know
too
much
about
yet.
So
that's
a
great
way
of
learning
is
just
to
do
interviews
and
just
to
hear,
and
you
might
find
yourself
in
that
story.
So
I
was
inspired
to
hear
that
see.
The
work
that's
been
done
is
great.
Work
keep
up
the
great
work
and
commission
members.
W
AC
AB
Okay,
I
was
very
taken
with
the
youth
and
the
discussion.
They
brought
up
about
Affordable
Health
Care
for
the
students
and
young
people
in
our
community,
and
not
only
that.
I
would
like
to
see
if
us
as
Commissioners,
to
really
look
into
affordable
health
care
for
our
youth,
even
under
mental
health
and
being
involved
in
emergency
service.
I,
see
a
disconnect
that
they
have
now
when
they
treat
us
when
it
comes
to
emergencies.
So
I
think
that's
something
else.
Maybe
we
could
discuss
during
the
retreat.
K
Mark
your
calendars,
June
24th
from
two
to
five
at
United
Way,
it's
the
center
for
participatory
change,
black
love
event
in
this
series.
It's
a
monthly
series
and
this
month
we're
really
just
going
to
be
together
and
be
black.
So
if
you
identify
which
we
all
do
here
as
a
person
as
a
black
person,
please
just
join
us
and
come
it's
June.
24Th
two
to
five
at
United
Way's
conference
is.
S
K
It
with
you
thank
you,
I
particularly
appreciated
the
ifa's
updates.
I
mean
to
me
it
was
just
so
thorough
and
taking
us
to
a
whole
nother
level
that
was
inspiring
and
lastly,
I
was
able
to
attend
a
reparations
convenient
with
some
peers.
That's
here
in
the
RJC
team
and
I
just
want
to
encourage
us,
as
commission
members,
to
really
look
how
this
conversation
expands
beyond
the
borders
of
Asheville
and.
K
Had
an
opportunity
to
have
discussions
like
Beyond
this
city
I
encourage
you
to
do
so
and
I'll
send
some
stuff
to
Christina
to
Christine
about
it,
but
there's
so
much
movement
happening
globally,
regionally,
nationally
and
Asheville
is
on
that
same
map.
And
so,
if
you
haven't
had
the
opportunity,
you
really
want
to
join
some
of
these
monthly
Zoom
calls
and
just
join
in
a
broader
sense
of
a
reparations
conversation.
AE
I
would
encourage
every
black
person
in
this
room
that
lives
in
Buncombe
County
to
go
to
the
reparation
stakeholder
authority
of
Asheville
website.
They
host
the
private
reparations
fund.
It's
for
black
people
by
black
people
run
by
black
people
for
us
by
us
all
that
and
sign
up
and
join
I'm,
not
going
to
ask
who's
a
member.
That's
sitting
there
in
this
room,
but
I
know
that
there
are
members
around
the
table.
AE
AB
M
M
I
seek
that
I
agree
with
Dr
Samari.
That
I
feel
like
there's
a
lot
of
stuff,
we're
trying
to
work
out
and
hash
out
at
the
retreat.
I.
Don't
think
that
it's
going
to
be
able
I
think
all
this.
This
is
going
to
be
able
to
be
done
within
five
hours,
so
I
would
recommend
having
multiple
Retreat
are
ways
that
we
can
discuss
this
list
so
that
we
can
work
out
in
a
full
effectively
and
efficiently
and
I'm,
not
sure
if
we
can
do
it.
M
This
next
retreat,
but
there's
been
multiple
discussions
that
I've
heard
from
people
about
immediate
recommendations
that
we
can
make
now
without
having
to
wait
or
things
to
address
this
happening
to
our
city.
Now
that
you
know
like
Mr,
Dwayne
has
stated
that
we're
not
backing
up
or
we're
not
putting
energy
behind
so
I
think
that
I
hope
that
within
the
retreat,
as
we
address
what
reparations
is,
we
can
look
at
what
action
said
we
may
be
able
to
do
before.
We
actually
pass
our
recommendations.
E
So
open
Bernard,
Mr
Richardson,
is
not
here,
but
one
of
the
things
I
noted
he
would
talk
about
is
getting
a
third
party
to
help
us
with
the
Investments
that
can
drive
the
commission
on
and
carry
us
further
into
the
future
and.
A
I'm
on
the
board
for
the
Peak
Academy,
and
this
information
has
not
been
made
totally
public,
but
I
can
say,
I
can
share
with
you
that
the
work
you
are
doing
in
education
reparations
is
being
actualized
at
the
Peak
Academy.
We
have
89
children
at
the
Peak
Academy,
apparently
from
preliminary
results,
not
one
not
one
of
our
children
was
below
proficiency,
all
of
our
children,
we're
at
or
above
proficiency
in
the
state
of
North
Carolina.
A
E
I
E
But
in
looking
at
his
tour
and
some
of
the
things
that
he
offered
There's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
learn
if
you
are
new
to
Asheville
about
the
Legacy
communities-
and
that
might
be
something
we
want
to
consider-
is
either
contracting
his
agency
or
working
through
him
to
get
a
hood
Huggers
tour
for
the
commission.
It's.
R
AF
Thank
you,
I
was
I,
am
so
very
happy
with
these
young
people
involved
in
reparations.
Many
years
ago,
the
city
of
Asheville
sponsored
the
youth
Council.
Yes,
we
were
like
the
city
council.
We
were
just
students,
so
you
know
we
don't
see
much
of
that
anymore.
V
V
Usually
you
don't
have
this
much
stuff
in
an
agenda
for
a
retreat,
so
I
like
to
say
it
condensed
a
little
bit
I'm
like
you,
I
like
to
see
it
condensed
a
little
bit,
because
what
I
talked
about
the
breakout
sessions?
The
breakout
sessions
would
get
a
lot
more
of
this
done
than
what
this
will
get
done
for
what
we're
going
to
need
to
do,
because
we
actually,
as
a
group,
need
to
be
talking
about
how
we're
going
to
interact
with
each
group
and
each
IFA.
V
Second,
I
want
to
thank
the
youth
again
and
I
still
are
with
you.
I
would
like
to
see
the
youth
do
some
of
the
work
that
we
can't
do
on
the
foot
basis
of
talking
to
the
elderly
people
in
the
community.
To
me
they
put
on
the
board
that
they
wanted
to
know
how
they
wanted
to
be
involved
or
how
could
they
get
involved?
Well,
this
is
it
the
doors
open
to?
Let
them
do
something,
and
with
that
interview
that
I
saw
her
do
a
Dr
Mullen.
V
V
AD
She
says:
oh
yeah,
lots
of
black
folks
in
Costa
Rica,
now
Haiti,
they
come
from
Haiti
and
she
was
saying
oh
sound,
like
they're,
going
through
the
same
thing.
Black
folks
are
here
and
so
just
want
to.
Let
you
know:
Dr
Martin,
you
made
a
difference.
She
knew
who
you
were
I,
think
she
had
taken
a
couple
of
your
classes
and
so
now
worldwide.
This
whole
process
is
World
worldwide,
a
lot
of
people
when
I
go
out
of
town
people.
Ask
me
about
it.
What.
I
AB
B
Gordon
I'm
very
encouraged
about
the
kind
of
consensus
building
around
the
Hub,
a
center
for
African
Americans
in
Asheville,
which
will
provide
all
services
and
educational
opportunities.
Q
B
Know
that
our
education
IFA
has
been
talking
about
that
for
quite
a
while.
I
also
want
to
encourage
folks
to
continue
to
focus
on
accountability,
and
maybe
that's
a
big
issue
for
our
retreat.
How
are
we
going
to
hold
the
city,
the
county,
everybody
accountable
for
these
recommendations
that
we're
going
to
give
them.
B
B
Somehow,
extending
the
authority
of
the
commission
or
as
Mr
olifants
has
suggested
some
other
authority
that
can
keep
this
going
for
years
for
the
future,
as
opposed
to
ending
in
two
years.
Thank
you.
C
W
W
A
newer
LLC
to
get
engaged
and
the
goal
is
not
just
for
us,
but
to
connect
with
other
organizations
or
individuals
who
may
not
have
the
capacity
to
to
to
get
their
certifications
to
bid
on
a
project,
and
we
have
these
opportunities
surrounding
us.
I
I
feel
that
process
should
like
to
see
to
me.
I
think
these.
Are
you
see
that
we
try
to
break,
but
we
got
to
make
sure
the
garden
is
ready
for
it
and
the
other
thing
I
didn't
say.
W
But
the
street
is
not
the
only
one
there's
enough
of
communities
who
have
plans
and
hustles
that
they
was
trying
to
see
for
years
and
now
we're
going
to
go
back
to
them
and
say
hey.
We
got
another
dream
for
you
to
believe
in,
but
they're
gonna
say
what
about
these
things.
So
we
can't
get
the
momentum
off
these.
How
we
gonna
create
a
new
one.
A
Commissions,
thank
you.
Are
there
public
comments.
A
It
is
eight
o'clock
and
I
will
entertain
emotions
all
those
in
favor.