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From YouTube: Planning and Zoning Commission – June 7, 2023
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Regular meeting of the City of Asheville Planning & Zoning Commission.
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E
E
Here
are
the
street
trees
details.
You
see
this
the
street
trees
at
the
access
point
or
brought
back
to
kind
of
stay
out
of
those
sight
triangles
it's
it
gets.
If
you
don't
know,
if
you've
ever
driven
down
hilliard
around
5:00,
it's
not
a
pleasant
experience.
Having
being
able
to
see
both
directions
is
an
important
part.
Go
street
is
right
at
the
peak
of
that
hill.
E
So
it's
the
best
access
point
and
having
clear
line
of
sight
is
going
to
be
an
important
part
part
of
people
coming
in
and
out
of
the
site,
more
details
than
plan,
so
landscaping
tree
canopy
protection
of
found
to
be
compliant.
The
screen
dumpster
areas
is
with
both
plantings.
Public
works
has
commented
on
the
size.
Applicant
is
working
on
ensuring
that
both
trash
and
recycling
can
be
accommodated
there.
E
To
additional
screening
to
the
neighborhood
in
south
grove
grove
street,
this
is
just
it's.
Some
exam
is
what
the
floor
plan
looks
like
it.
Over
lean
on
the
in
the
building.
You
can
see
that
there's
an
entrance
in
the
central
courtyard,
as
well
as
a
separate
residential
entrance
directly
onto
hilliard,
to
provide
both
two
different
ways.
E
E
E
E
Changes
the
african
made
after
the
design
review
committee
already
there's
a
there,
was
some
discussion
about
the
appearance
of
the
building
kind
of
floating,
and
one
of
the
recommendations
is
that
the
design
review
committee
that
the
applicant
has
implemented
is
carrying
these
brown
elements
of
the
building
all
the
way
down
to
the
ground,
to
make
it
ground
the
building
and
you'll
see
that
the
original
did
not
have
that.
So
that
was.
E
A
change
that
the
the
applicant
made
following
the
design
review
committee,
kind
of
an
overhead
rendering
of
that
courtyard
area,
the
internal
courtyard,
the
one
serving
the
commercial
and
the
rooftop
deck
so
based
on
the
reviews
of
the
technical
review
committee,
the
downtown
commission,
the
design
review
committee.
We
staff
recommended
approval
of
this
level
to
site
plan,
subject
to
a
few
remaining
technical
and
design
conditions
that
the
applicant
is
working
on
and
the
applicants
are
here.
If
you
have
any
questions
or
if
they
want
to
add.
E
E
E
We're
really
on
kind
of
the
third
version
of
a
started
with
a
big
massive
building.
We
heard
a
lot
of
comments
about
the
length
of
the
building
and
the
scale
of
the
building
and
it
feeling
like
a
fortress
and
and
it's
changed.
We
had
neighborhood
meetings,
those
neighborhood
meetings,
we've
pulled
the
scale
back,
we
slid
the
scale
back
and
then
it
introduced
what
we
have
here
tonight,
which
is
an
adaptive
reuse
of
the
old
historic
hazen
lens
for
building
and
the
new
podium
residential
building.
E
E
Of
plan,
okay,
so
yeah
we're
not
going
over
110,
so
some
of
those
made
so
he
may
have
108
in
the
main,
and
maybe
we
missed
having
them
write
or
we
may
have
100
in
the
new
building
and
10
in
the
other
building
but
yeah.
So
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
the
adaptive
reuse
of
that
building
is
for
commercial
space,
all
the
space
along
the
ground
floor,
where
it's
being
done,
there's
just
other
there's
a
kind
of
a
lower
level
in
there
and
a
back
of
space.
That
starts
to
get
really
deep.
E
E
E
E
E
This
this
courtyard
here
is
at
the
hilliard
level,
so
that'll
be
the
entryway
there's
commercial
entry
and
ada
access
into
the
commercial
space
here,
there's
also
access
into
the
building
here
and
then
this
this
steps
down
a
set
of
stairs
that
goes
down
to
that
grass
area
at
the
surface
parking
lot.
This
is
a
set
of
stairs
that
that
comes
up
to
the
rooftop,
sit
on
the
opposite
on
the
west
side
of
the
building,
there's
a
new
stair
tower
being
constructed
attached
to
the
building
that
provides
you
access
up
to
this
rooftop
area
area.
E
Roof
that's
out
there
today.
Okay,
so
is
that
going
to
be
a
two-story
building
building
because
none
of
the
plans
it's
were
section
show
that
the
building
is
really
a
it's
an
existing.
I
don't
know
the
height
of
it.
We
probably
have
it
in
some
of
the
details,
but
it
is
basically
a
single
story
building
and
then
drops
with
great
behind
it.
So
the
existing
building
is
a.
E
E
Commercial
space
underneath
it
we're
going
to
do
parking
and
there's
just.
I
was
just
saying
that
in
the
very
back
of
this
building,
or
potentially
I'm
not
sure
how
the
floors
end
up
lining
up,
but
there's
there's
space
in
here
that
could
be
rehabbed
into
residential
units
as
well.
I
was
just
trying
to
clarify
that
that
there
may
be
residential
units
in
here,
as
this
building
is
being
programmed
right
now
on
the
ground.
E
No,
it's
a
so.
During
our
multiple
visits
to
drc.
There
was
a
lot
of
stormwater
conversations
and
those
a
lot
of
conversations
about.
Oh
a
lot
of
these
projects,
just
put
underground
detention
system
and
don't
do
anything
more
creative
and
so
we're
looking
to
so.
The
pervious
paving
will
be
a
storm
water
control
measure,
but
through
the
use
of
pervious
pervious
pavers.
Here.
E
The
goal
would
be
to
meet
the
city's
stormwater
requirements
with
those
those
measures,
as
opposed
to
just
putting
it
in
pipes
underneath
the
ground
sure.
Also
I
love
that
you
know.
I
wish
you
do
the
whole
thing
impervious,
but
this
price
tag
of
that.
So
I'm
sure
it's
a
balancing
act
act.
One
of
the
other
questions
I
have
was.
E
In
clay
mentioned
the
walk
through
space,
just
trying
to
wrap
my
head
around
correctly,
it's
referring
to
the
walk
through
space
in
between
the
residential
building
and
the
commercial
building
right
here,
so
so
yeah.
So
to
clarify
a
little
bit.
You
know
right
now
the
the
drive
access
doesn't
align
with
with
groves
are
guess,
that's,
maybe
grocery
or
north
grove
and
so
we've.
E
In
essence,
our
access
drive,
extends
the
old
south
grow
street
that
chloe
and
has
been
chained
off,
we're
putting
bollards
down
here
or
some
type
of
a
gate
so
that
we
can
still
let
pedestrians
and
bicycles
come
through
here,
but
that
we're
not
introducing
vehicular
traffic
into
that
neighborhood.
As
we
started
some
of
the
earlier
editions,
we
were
trying
to
put
a
sidewalk
up
along
this
axis
drive
to
connect
to
hilliard
and
what
we
found.
F
To
20
feet
of
elevation
change
there,
and
so
a
dewyze
was
getting
ready
difficult.
So
we've
created
this
alternate
route
where
we
sort
of
ride
contour
and
come
straight
out
to
ashland
avenue.
One
of
the
things
that
we've
kind
of
talked
about
and
ben
completely
aware
of
is
just
the
fact
that
we
need
to
pay
attention
to,
like
the
sea
said
or
the
the
safety
guidelines,
just
as
we're
creating
this
opportunity.
F
Doing
it
kind
of
behind
the
dumpster
it
may
live
in
front
of
will
work
through
some
of
those
details,
but
we're
really
excited
about
the
fact
that
it
creates
an
opportunity
to
stay
at
grade
and
connect
over
to
ashland
without
having
to
go
all
the
way
back
through
and
hit
ashland
down
down
the
street.
So
so
really
the
walk
through
the
property
is
really
that
west.
F
So
there's
an
opportunity
there,
there's
technically
an
opportunity,
as
you
come
up
here,
we
would
anticipate
most
folks
would
find
their
way
to
ashland
anu,
but
there's
also
connectivity
through
the
site.
That
brings
you
up
and
around
and
around
and
up
stairs
and
right.
So
there's
there's
technically
connectivity
for
our
folks
to
get
down,
but
we're
we
think
we've
kind
of
created
the
path
of
of
easiest
path
to
get
over
to
ashland,
okay,
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
going
with
that
is
in
the
central
courtyard
on
the
north.
It's
listed
as
a
gate
right
there.
F
B
F
F
Closed
but
I
don't
know
that
it
wouldn't
allow
people
to
steal
kind
of
get
around
the
building,
so
we're
not
trying
to
create
a
fortress
out
here
sure
there's
whether
we
close
this
off
there's
plenty
of
other
ways
to
get
in
and
out
of
the
site.
But
yes,
we
have
just
curious
and-
and
I'm
not
the
fire
marshal
to
be
be
curious
with
the
the
safety
of
that
having
arguments
that,
if
that's
public
space
and
it's
something
we
definitely
will
work
out
with
our
marshall
as
we
go
through
final
trc
sweet.
Thank
you.
Sorry.
G
There
and
that
existing
buildings
either
being
checked
or
beefed
up
to
can't
hold
the
load.
The
live
load
up
there
and
I'm
not
a
structural
engineer,
but
it
is
a
it
is
a
tank
of
a
building
so
yeah,
I
don't
think
that's
going
to
be
an
issue.
It's
a
it's
a
it
will
those
will
be
checked
as
it
moves
forward
through
the
proper
building
permits
and
reviews.
Okay,
okay,.
G
F
Because
it's
more
of
a
one
level
with
the
podium
on
it,
and
so
it
sounded
like
screening-
was
not
technically
required
required.
I
know
you
indicated
the
landscaping
along
there
to
use
that
as
screening
as
well.
So
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
I'm
reading
that
correctly-
and
that
is
the
correct
intent.
F
F
F
F
Building
at
the
beach
that
underneath
it,
so
it
was
a
little
bit
of
that.
You
know
we
played
with
earlier
versions
where
we
didn't
just
got
really
solid
and
really
kind
of
took
away
from
the
pedestrian
experience
through
there,
so
that
opening
it
back
up
with
some
type
of
screen
panels,
and
we
really,
as
clay
made
reference
the.
H
Geometry
of
this
parcel
and
the
right
away
give
us
a
lot
of
great
opportunities
to
put
additional
go
above
and
beyond
on
the
landscaping
in
this
area.
So
we
can
provide
the
street
trees
within
the
public
right
away
where
they
typically
would
live,
and
then
on
the
private
property.
We've
actually
got
an
area
there.
F
H
F
F
F
F
F
H
Applicant
contact
is
warrants,
planner
coordinating
review
is
clay
mitchell,
and
I
should
also
note
this
is
a
continuation
from
the
may
3rd
2023
meeting.
So
we
may
not
fully
dive
into
every
single
detail
and
probably
will.
F
What
I
did
want
to
go
over
with
you
are
some
of
the
changes
that
are
responsive
to
the
comments
in
the
discussion
that
we
had
at
the
meeting
last
month,
as
well
as
some
discussions
that
we've
had
with
the
applicant
and
various
departments
in
in
the
city
who
have
been
pressed
by
the
planning
department
to
provide
us
with
support
on
this
application,
so
that
we
could
get
it
back
to
you
today
with
some
with
some
defined
information.
So
you
know.
B
First,
what
having
this
is,
I
did
the
buildings
along
the
western
side
of
the
buildings.
In
both
areas,
you
will
see
new
sidewalks
that
connect
the
surface
parking
deck
at
beyond
the
southern
building
that
now
the
new
sidewalk
connects
on
site
directly
up
to
john
walker
avenue,
as
well
as
a
new
entrance.
B
On
this
southern
building
on
the
extreme
northwest
corner
immediately
adjacent
to
that
you
see
some
depiction
of
of
surface
level
bike
parking,
so
there's
a
significant
number
of
that
little
square
with
the
lines
is:
is
bicycle
parking
for
the
residents
of
the
southern
building
on
the
northern
building?
This
very
interesting
site?
You
see
that
some
this
is
ghosted
in
and
I'll.
Let
the
applicants
describe
it
in
there
renderings,
but
the
act.
The.
F
Leasing
office
amenity
space
in
the
northern
building
has
been
expanded.
Couple
of
reorientation
orientations
to
bring
new
entrances
on
to
john
walker
avenue
to
provide
additional
activation
on
john
walker
avenue.
In
addition,
you
see
the
sign
the
stairwell
going
up
to
the
courtyard
on
the
north
building,
which,
and
you
can
see.
F
The
courtyard
programming
ghost
it
in
there
that
site
plan
which
which
we
have
somebody
that
here
here
this
sidewalk
at
our
this
I'm
sorry
stairwell-
has
been
moved
to
coincide
with
a
crosswalk
that
will
cross
here
and
that
crosswalk
will
connect
to
this
area.
So
the
applicant
has
responded
to
our
concerns
about
this
direct
connection
between
the
northern
and
the
southern
building,
and
you
can
see
the
hash
mark
showing
the.
B
Building
on
ground
floor
being
able
to
get
through
cross
the
street
and
get
to
the
amenities
in
the
northern
building,
primarily
that
courtyard.
On
the
southern
side,
you
see
that
the
retail
area
has
been
expanded
fully
from
the
south
to
the
north,
which,
with
a
curved
around
so
now
a
portion
of
the
retail
actually
activates
on
to
john
walker
and
the
amenity
space
for
the
sudden
building
has
been
moved.
A.
J
J
Very
slight
speed
table
here
that
will
allow
us
to
provide
kind
of
a
real
focus
point
for
a
high-visibility
crosswalk.
That
kind
of
maintains
that
connection
and
provides
significant,
alerting
to
alerts
to
the
two
drivers
that
this
is
the
connecting
point.
That's
going
to
be
heavily
use.
Use
for
pedestrian
access
on
the
landscaping
plan
is
essentially.
J
B
Delineation
of
where
the
bicycle
parking
areas,
you
see
that,
in
a
light
blue
these
are
the
surface
level
and
by
surface
level
I
mean
where
the
parking
level
is
external
parking,
so
that
this
bike
parking
will
be
outside
I'll.
Show
you
later,
where
there's
going
to
be
internal
bike
parking,
the
our
codes
related
trimming
of
the
site,
so
the
red
is
the
amenities
for
the
residents
you
can
see
in
the
northern
building,
all
the
different
uses,
there's
meeting
space,
there's
a.
K
B
G
To
take
place
for
each
level,
you
see
the
two
blue
areas
on
the
northern
building,
and
now
you
can
see
the
activation
of
the
courtyard
this
is
residents
would
on
the
second
on
in
the
northern
building.
Can
access
that
courtyard
directly
from
the
hallway
residents
from
the
summer
southern
building
will
come
across
the
street
and
go
up.
B
Those
residents
lounge
areas
and
I
believe,
some
fitness
space
again
on
the
second
floor,
then
as
we
move
up.
So
this
is
representative
of
floors.
Three
four
and
five:
you
see
the
same,
repeated
with
by
internal
bike,
storage
for
each
floor
and
and
the
corner
building
the
corner
of
the
northern
building
is
activated
with
lounge
space
on
each
floor
floor,
the
the
renderings.
B
E
E
This
is
the
one
that
shows
the
increase
area
where
the
space
has
been
come
around
the
building,
and
then
you
start
to
see
the
slope
up
to
the
entrance
and
then
gradually,
as
the
building
becomes
over
here,
that
what
second
floor
more
or
less
becomes
ground
level.
It's
really
the
first
floor
of
of
residential
uses,
though
the
end
points
of
each
each
bill
and
then
the
renderings
I'm
going
to
let
the
applicant
present
those
and
then
these
are
the
same
conditions.
E
E
Built
it
no
one
knows
apparently
it's.
This
is
all
my
opinion.
No
one
knows
knows
definitively
whether
it's
going
to
happen
not
biltmore
have
talked
of
a
turn
lane.
There
is
talk
of
a
signal,
because
this
is
a
joint
project
between
the
city
and
the
new
north
carolina
department
of
transportation.
We
do
not
have
definitive
plans
working,
but
the
applicant
has
signaled
that
they
would
like
to
do
something
as
a
pedestrian
amenities
out
there.
E
E
E
E
Option
if
the
city
can
provide
ed
plans
going
to
happen
by
the
end
of
this
year,
the
applicant
will
be
able
to
accommodate
those
plans
and
do
an
installation
of
a
sidewalk
along
biltmore
app.
If
we
cannot
provide
them
with
those
plans
that
the
applicant
will
merely
have
to
correct
the
the
driveway
tip
downs
that
are
currently
in
place
along.
E
The
recommendation
is,
that
would
be
a
slight
rise
and
a
speed
table
at
that
location
along
john
walker
out.
So
those
are
the
new
to
new
condition
items
that
we
think
in
encapsulate
the
discussions
between
the
departments
in
the
city
and
the
applicants
willingness
to
work
with
us
us
this.
You
know
this
is
approved
with
conditions
back
in
april
in
you
heard
it
on
may
3rd.
This
is
continuance.
This
tentative
date
of
june
27th-
maybe
a
bit
I'm
not
sure.
Yet,
if
that's
possibility,
that
counsels
agendas
change
pretty
significantly.
Those
are
the
changes.
E
E
E
Thank
you
very
much
for
letting
me
come
back
before
you.
My
name
is
lee
cochran
senior
vice
president
for
development
for
laurel
street,
the
city
of
asheville
is
partner
in
this
in
this
development.
I'll
try
to
be
very
brief.
They
did
such
a
great
job,
but
we
have
a
couple
of
images
and
just
want
to
describe
a
few
things,
and
hopefully
those
old
it.
Just
quick.
E
Just
if
you
don't
know
us
laurel
street,
where
charlotte
based
mixed
income,
housing
development,
firm
building,
mixed
income,
housing
for
families
and
seniors
seniors
for
a
variety
of
comes
mixed
income,
its
kind
of
our
mission,
I
thought-
and
I
will
be
real
brief.
I
thought
a
timeline
would
be
helpful
because
some
of
those
questions
came
up
last
time
we
were
for
you,
the
original
rfp,
that
the
city
issued
for
this
site
was
back
at
the
beginning
of
2020
through
a
back
and
forth
process.
E
We
added
some
detail
just
to
show
that
there
have
been
some
changes,
changes
its
development
over
time,
not
just
the
ones.
The
last
30
days
when
we
sign
the
loi
it
was
for
a
minimum
of
200
unity,
percent
of
those
units
would
have
been
affordable.
We
continue
to
work
with
the
great
folks
at
the
city
to
keep
refining
and
bettering
our
plans.
E
So
by
the
time
the
city
council
approved
a
purchase
and
sale
agreement
with
laurel
street
in
august
of
2022,
our
minimum
number
of
units
was
215
and
we'd
gone
to
30
percent,
affordable
20%
at
60%
ami
10%
at
80,
so
we'd
increase
the
affordability
level
of
the
project
with
just
the
city
and
being
the
city's
financial
contribution,
there's
no
other
city
financial
contribution
other
than
the
land.
Once
we
got
that
we
started
rezoning
process
in
november
of
twenty
twenty
two
and
now
we're
here
today,
just
real
this.
E
E
E
Rate
developers
building
this
kind
of
product
does
a
lot
of
studios
and
ones
we've
built
for
families
seniors
singles
anybody
can
live
here
is
really
our
message,
so
we
think
density
is
really
people
not
unit,
so
think
of
it
as
three
hundred
fifty
three
people,
even
maybe
more,
with
a
couple
of
roommates
sharing
a
bedroom
but
rather
than
unit.
So
we
think
there's
a
lot
of
density
here
and
the
commercial
space
is
now
2,600
square
feet.
It
was
about
1,500
1,500.
E
When
we
came
before
you
last,
this
is
going
to
be
really
quick,
as
I
really
want
to
show
you
pictures,
we've
made
what
we
think
are
five
significant
changes
to
the
design
and
I'm
going
to
actually
walk
through
these
with
with
pictures
rather
than
bullet
points,
it's
a
little
dark,
but
this
is
art
attempted
a
rendering.
This
is
an
attempt
to
show
you
what
we
think
this
will
become
and
what
we
want
to
highlight.
Two
things
in
this
slide.
One
is
the
connection
to
the
connection
across
the
street.
E
E
Crosswalks
at
the
ends
of
john
walker,
now
have
this
mid-block
extension,
which
we
think
is
even
better
than
what
we've
shown
here.
We
do
like
the
idea
of
the
speed
table.
We
really
want
to
incorporate
that
and
with
even
we
could
change
some
of
the
painting
and
make
we
really
want
to
make
that
mid-block
connection
a
really
significant
connection,
combined
with
a
road
that
has
a
15
mile
an
hour,
speed
limit.
We
think
it'll
be
a
growth
that
is
for
people,
cars
and
bikes,
all
together
using
the
street.
E
In
addition,
you
see
the
amenity
area
that
you
did
not
get
a
good
sense
of
last
time
and
we've
actually
really
done
some
design
work
on
it.
You
see
it's
a
little
dark.
It
would
be
a
little
lighter
but
effectively.
The
idea
is
that
that
is
an
amenity
for
both
sides
of
the
building.
So
you
access
it
either
from
john
walker
with
to
stairways
up
on
to
it
or
you
could
access
it
from
the
northern
building
from
the
inside
it's
hard
to
see.
E
E
Walker,
in
addition
to
kind
of
the
normal
amenities
you
might
see
it
on
a
men-
bocce
ball
outdoor
movie
theater.
That
kind
of
thing,
but
that's
really
that
that
that
is
our
part.
That
is
the
amenity,
that's
going
to
sell
the
unit
and
is
designed
to
kind
of
really
work
well
with
john
walker.
This
is
similar
to
the
slide
you've
already
seen,
but
we
wanted
to
repeat
that
how
we've
taken
the
retail
and
really
commercial
space
and
gone
along
biltmore?
It
used
to
be
only
in
the
bottom
right.
E
E
We're
working
with
community
groups,
it
could
be
retail
space
could
be
a
nonprofit
space,
but
it's
space,
that's
needed
in
the
community
of
broad
community
space,
but
so,
but
we've
gone
to
2,600
square
feet
and
we've
put
the
mail
in
package
room
which,
as
you
know,
get
a
lot
of
people
in
and
out
every
day,
one
either
side
of
john
walker.
That
kind
of
extends
even
farther
in
so
there's
they
kind
of
faced
each
other
across
the
street.
Those
mail
and
packages
rooms
rooms
face
each
other
next
to
the
retail.
E
The
point
that
the
second
let
me
show
this
to
you,
because
I
think
it
does
a
little
better
job
of
what
we
tried
to
do.
Only
guard
in
our
architect
neighboring
concepts
in
charlotte.
We
really
came
up
with
his
idea.
It
was
great
idea,
we
loved
it.
If
you
look
at
those
three
large
three
bedroom
and
two
bedroom
units
that
are
faithfully
face,
lie
garden
by
the
time
you
get
to
that
part
of
the
building,
while
we're
calling
the
second
level
is
now
the
first
level.
E
So
what
they're
really
working
on
creating
is,
while
those
units
units
will
have
their
back
door
the
building
their
front
door
now
is
andouille
garden.
They
will
basically
have
front
yard
three
units
on
the
northern
building
and
the
one
unit
on
the
southern
building
will
have
essentially
front
porch
and
a
front
yard,
so
they
will
walk
out
their
front
door
on
to
lie
garden
and
I've
drove
the
site
again
today,
and
the
best
way
to
walk
to
south
slope
is
down
lee
garden.
E
E
So
those
major
changes
we
made
in
the
connection
between
the
two
buildings
increased
activation
and
john
walker
increase
the
amount
of
commercial
space
change,
the
location
of
the
commercial
space
and
increase
the
activation
only
garden.
So
what
we
heard-
and
we
want
to
be
responsive
to
it-
I
think
other
than
that.
I
will
not
try
to
repeat
the
discussions
we've
had
about
biltmore.
E
We
know
that
what
we
need
on
biltmore
eventually
is
a
wide
sidewalk
and
between
that
sidewalk
and
the
building
hardscape,
not
green
scape,
because
if
it's
going
a
real
commercial
space,
you
don't
have
like
little
sidewalks
going
to
front
but
kind
of
a
whole
hardscape
plaza,
don't
know
quite
how
we
get
there
working
with
ncdot.
But
that's
where
we're
going
to
get
is
a
wide
sidewalk
next
to
the
building,
with
hardscape
between
the
building
and
the
end,
the
end
sidewalk.
E
E
E
M
M
With
you,
I
printed
it
out
here,
so
I'm
just
going
to
read
it.
I
can
certainly
send
you
the
email
as
well.
It
says
I
appreciate
the
modest
changes
the
developer
has
made
the
addition
of
a
retail
space
and
building
to
the
addition
of
porch
patios,
with
a
connection
to
a
walkway,
nearly
garden
lane
and
the
elimination
of
ten
parking
spaces
in
favor
of
a
little
bit
more
active
ground
floor
use
the
two
new
stairways
connected
up
connecting
up
to
the.
M
Elevated
courtyard
for
building
one
raises
some
additional
questions
for
me:
ier
the
doors
at
the
top
of
the
stairs
just
to
remain
locked
at
all
times
times.
If
so,
why
not
have
the
doors
sidewalks?
The
space
is
still
excuse
me,
not
truly
public,
so
I'm
not
prepared
to
form
an
opinion
about
that
edition.
Overall,
just
based
on
the
information
presented
in
the
revised
plans
and
the
new
staff
report
and
without
having
the
benefit
of
the
important
q&a
and
discussion
that
we
have
at
the
meeting,
I
would
likely
vote
to
support
this
project
moving
forward.
M
M
Cairns
sitting
over
there
in
the
corner,
I'm
tempted
to
ask
him
questions
about
biltmore,
but
I
know
that
it's
just
a
massive
can
of
worms
and
I'm
not
sure
I
want
to
get
into
it,
probably
the
biggest
question
I
have
on
biltmore
and-
and
I
think
mr.
cochran
you
answered,
or
at
least
provided
some.
What
I'll
call
reassurance
reassurance
is,
I
lee
will
still
want
to
see
some
activation
along
along
thing.
M
M
M
M
M
At
all
I
mean
they
just
appear
with
a
long
space.
Just
fine,
but
I
didn't
know
it's
like
one
would
be
adult
parker
that
kind
of
thing.
So
I
actually-
and
I'm
probably
speaking
only
for
myself,
as
I
almost
imagine
them
like
green
space,
because
I
want
him
to
feel
like
front
yards
of
a
down-home
so
that
they
don't
they're
not
actually
their
public
in
the
sense
of
no
there's
no
fence
around
it.
M
Gardens
pulls
away,
you
could
put
almost
a
little
bit
of
a
park
plaza
at
that
corner,
that
with
some
benches
and
a
something
to
make
that
a
place
to
sit
a
place
to
hang
out
because
it's
farther
away
from
that
front
door.
So
I
actually
think
couldn't
see
right
there
right
at
that
corner,
putting
some
programming
there.
M
That
would
be
true
public
yeah.
I
was
even
thinking
the
one
on
the
south
building
where
again,
oh
yeah,
even
further
like
yet
seems
even
the
better,
because
there
isn't
necessarily
unit
that
butts
desert
lie
to
that.
So
so
I
guess
the
only
other,
like
particular
question
I
have
right
now
is-
is
something
commissioner
barton
did
bring
up
in
his
his
comments.
M
M
I
will
has
called
a
gate
at
the
top,
so
it
is
private
space.
So,
if
you
go
in,
you
would
have
to
have
some
sort
of
fob
or
something
to
get
into
the
space
originally
conceived
the
fences
it's
gator
at
the
bottom.
I
think
that
sends
the
wrong
message.
Sometimes
what
something
looks
like
is
gives
the
perception
of
what
it
is
and
if
you
put
a
gate
at
the
bottom,
it
feels
like
a.
M
So
right
now
we
have
the
gates
at
the
top
and
that's
where
we'd
like
to
keep
them
honestly,
that's
where
we
would
build
them
and
only
if
their
became
such
a
serious
issue
would
we
feel,
like
we'd,
have
to
move
them
down.
Okay,
so
so
alright,
thank
you
for
that.
Mr.
cochran.
Yes,
mr.
chairman,
I'm
sorry
I
completely
neglected
to
point
out
that
mr.
clarence
is
here
in
case.
You
have
questions
about
that
and
without
adjudicating
the
actual
project.
I
just
want
to.
M
M
M
Comment,
yes,
please
come
up
hello,
my
name
is
vicky
meath
and
I'm
the
director
of
just
economics,
adjust
economics,
is
working
on
affordable
housing
and
part
of
our
work
on
affordable
housing
focuses
on
city
and
county
owned
land
and
its
uses.
This
is
another
aspect
of
our
work
and
we
applaud
the
city's
2019
policy.
H
H
B
2288
for
a
full-time
worker,
while
I
know
that
we
need
housing
at
all
different
levels,
I
believe
that
we
really
are
from
much
of
our
working
class
until
we're
at
60%
ami.
So
my
suggestion
is
that
the
10%
of
units
designated
for
80%
a
I
be
set-asides
for
voucher
holders,
so
that
we
have
20%
of
the
units
available
to
be
people
making
60%
ami
and
10-percent
set-aside
for
voucher
holders.
B
Commitment
for
an
amenity,
that's
useful
for
both
maple
crest
and
the
folks
that
will
be
residing
at
3:19,
built
more
like
a
child
care
facility
or
a
grocery
store.
I
think
these
were
talked
about
in
the
original
rfp.
One
of
the
bullet
points.
I'd
provide
a
mix
of
uses,
not
just
housing
non-housing.
You
should
seek
to
provide
needed
goods,
services
and
ass
to
existing
communities,
so
so
I'm
housing.
B
Developer
through
the
land-
and
I
think
it's
important
to
get
it
right,
and
I
want
to
ask
you
all,
as
the
experts
on
development,
to
make
sure
that
you're
asking
for
the
type
of
development
that
complements
maple
crest,
that
contributes
to
our
our
affordable
housing
stock
and
that
provides
assets
and
benefits
to
the
community
worth
the
type
of
investment
of
our
tax
dollars.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
You.
B
Quick
while
I
was
sitting
here,
I
didn't
get
to
do
it
before
I
know
it
gets
talked
about,
and
I
feel
like.
We've
reviewed
it
or
at
least
have
had
discussions
about
it
on
previous
other
projects,
that
kind
of
per
unit
or
heard
or
subsidy
when
you're
talking
about
affordable
housing.
And
if
my
quick
math
is
correct,
if
it
was,
let's
just
call
it
a
six
million
dollar
investment.
B
B
M
Serving
councils
at
30%,
I
am
I
because
they're
using
project
based
vouchers,
so,
but
in
addition,
any
of
our
also
are
80%
units
would
accept
tenant
based
vouchers,
exactly
on
the
subsidies
in
the
conditions-
and
I
don't
know
if
they've
been
updated
for
this
revision,
but
I
don't
see
anything
about
about
subsidies
in
the
well
housing
commitment
and
the
project
conditions.
Sometimes
we
do
have
you
know?
B
You
just
come
at
it
from
a
different.
If,
if
you
didn't
meet
those
conditions,
it
would
be
a
zoning
issue
in
addition
to
cost
you.
So
that's
all
I'm
asking
if
it's
something
that
you
willing
to
be
more
specific
in
the
conditional
zoning
conditions
about
subsidies,
acceptance
or
set
asides
or
whatever
you
want
to
say.
Well,
we
definitely
need
to
get
the
part.
M
Wanted
to
check
and
just
make
sure
you
don't
have
to
agree
to
it,
but
we've
just
if
you
want
to
the
only
way
we
can
add
it
as
if
you
say
say
that
you
would
greet
language
but
well
again,
and
that's
why
I
phrased
it
in
the
way
of
saying
my
understanding
is
for
all
city
projects.
Now,
if
we're
doing
these
affordable,
private
developers
or
green,
they
need
to
require
to
accept
vouchers.
So
I
see
sasha
over
there
in
europe
you're
on
that
point,
that's
a
fair
housing
issues.
M
So
if
it's
affordable
housing,
if
you
have
to
pee,
you
know
that's
a
fair
housing.
We
don't
put
that
in
conditions
but
to
say
a
set-aside
is
a
very
different
thing
than
just
saying
saying:
we're
not
going
to
women
against
people
with
section
8
c,
miss
burton
ski
did
you
I'm
hesitant
to
get
so
generally
when
we've
had
affordable
housing
conditions
with
a
partnership
with
the
city.
E
B
K
Decided
prior
to
council
approval
I
mean,
is
that
I
don't
think
that
you
need
my
personal
thing.
You
need
to
add
that
in
there,
because
there
are
already
meeting
these
certain
certain
requirements,
it's
and
if
you
put
that
in
there,
then
you
lock
in
those
like
to
spaces
where
they
can
only
accept
those
requirements
and
then
what
if
somebody
comes
along
and
they
meet
the
10%,
am
I
and
they
want
that
room?
Well
then
they
have
to
like
they
can
only
rent
it
out
to
somebody
with
that
housing
choice
voucher.
K
K
Cochran
talk
about
project
based
vouchers,
so
that's
so
that's
a
little
bit
different
than
your
just
your
regular
housing
choice,
voucher
where,
if
I'm
the
voucher
holder
and
I
come
to
you
and
I
say:
hey,
I
got
a
voucher
I'd
like
to
run
a
unit,
so
it
is
like
a
set
aside
and
it's
working
with
the
housing
authority.
I
think
one
of
the
team-
and
I
were
talking
if
we
added
language
it
would
be
okay.
K
We
would
just
want
to
say
subject
to
approval
by
the
housing
authority,
because
this
project
based
vouchers
they
have
the
ultimate
authority
of
that
gets
funded.
It's
really,
you
know
it's
a
decision.
It's
federal
money.
The
city
doesn't
have
control
over
whether
or
not
hack
housing
authority
has
been
a
hacker.
The
housing
authority
approves
that
so,
but
they
are
willing
to
accept
vouchers
in
there
other
units-
or
you
know
so
we're
working
on
this
as
a
whole
community.
K
K
Just
just
a
little
well,
and
I
think
the
only
reason
we're
having
this
discussion-
and
I
can
understand
where
miss
ashley
is
coming
from-
is
that
that
typically,
these
any
of
those
forcing
parameters
that
were
setting
in
a
condition
for
project
in
the
cz
process
are
in
there,
and
so,
if
there's
a
condition
coming
from
the
city
selling
the
project
to
laurel
street,
then
that
should
also
be
in
here,
because
then
that
becomes
the
mechanism
to
make
sure
it
gets
enforced.
Unless
there's
some
other
mechanism
through
the
sail
to
to
enforce
that.
Okay,
which
case.
K
It's
so
so
the
condition
might
be
met
by
itself,
but
then
you're
going
down
the
line
so
that
in
the
conditional
zoning
that's
deep,
it
makes
it
makes
it
stay
there
willing
to
say
we
just
don't
want
to
get
too
precise.
So
just
and
we
have
had
conditions
before
where
it
is
based
on
some
other
entities
decision.
So
work
with.
You
know
a
condition
says
that
will
work
with
the
housing
authority.
B
B
M
M
A
Changed
like
all
the
assumptions,
change
around
development
what's
doable
in
terms
of
retail.
Well,
you
know
people
started
abandoning
offices
and
you
know
so
there
were
some
of
the
proposals
had
office
space
in
them.
Some
of
you
know,
there's
all
kinds
of
things,
so
I
think
just
the
it
was
really
seriously
a
seismic
shift
that
happened
and
between
interest
rates
and
construction
costs.
It's
just
really
not
the
same
market
as
it
was
three
years
ago
ago.
A
August,
you
know
and
when
we
were
working
on
this
with
laurel
street,
it's
like
what's
the
most
important
and
housing
units
are
the
most
important,
so
we
know
that
it's
not
the
retail
we
wanted
or
it's
not
the
you
know
the
mix
we
originally
wanted
three
years
ago.
But
ultimately
we
have
to
similar
to
mr.
barton's
comments,
the
housings,
the
most.
A
A
M
B
Mr.
mitchell,
can
you
pull
do
you?
Have
the
whole
project
conditions
pulled
up
there?
Yeah
I
can.
I
can
add.
I
would
I'm
sorry.
I
was
looking
yeah
sure
that
some
of
the
stuff
we've
talked
about
even
just
this
evening.
It's
yeah
just
a
dre,
so
just
in
august
of
2022,
I'm
sorry
to
add
to
this
discussion
what
was
conveyed
to
the
council
when
they
voted
to
approve
to.
N
N
P
P
Just
want
to
be
sure
that
if
they
are
conditions
and
looking
at
you
clay,
because
they're
in
them
they're
the
ones
about
working
with
the
city
on
the
crossroad
of
where
the
are
those
really
going
to
be
added
as
conditions.
And
if
they
are
that.
I
need
to
check
with
the
applicants
to
say
what
you
see
in
the
motion.
And
I
don't
know
if
you
have
that.
B
A
A
I
G
P
H
Ncdot
can
produce
engineered
plants
sufficient
to
design
and
install
site
or
a
link
to
final
plans,
whether
the
project
includes
a
signal
and
or
turn
link
instruction
prior
to
the
issuance
of
a
building
permit
the
a
potential
install
10-foot,
sidewalks,
consistent
with
the
final
road
avenue
location,
which
may
include
additional
sidewalk
and
plaza
space
to
the
edge
of
the
building
in
the
alternative.
If
no
plans
are
available
available,
the
applicant
shall
only
be
responsible
for
removing.
H
B
Departments
to
determine
and
install
an
appropriate,
I
visit
visibility,
high
visibility,
crosswalk,
which
will
include
a
speed
table
across
john
walker
avenue
at
the
access
point
both
buildings
and
find
that
the
request
is
reasonable
is
in
the
public.
Interest
is
consistent
with
the
city's
comprehensive
plan
and
meets
the
development
needs
of
the
community
and
that
the
request
one
provides
infill
development
and
target
growth
areas
to
increases
the
supply
of
affordable
housing
and
proximity
to
schools.
Transit
can
x,
promotes
the
development
and
availability
of
affordable
housing
and
affordable
and
workforce.
B
E
B
A
B
A
B
B
A
B
B
B
B
B
By
the
applicant
three
that
the
proposed
use
or
development
of
the
land
will
not
substantially
injure
the
value
of
adjoining
or
abutting
property,
for
that,
the
proposed
use
or
development
of
the
land
will
be
in
harmony
with
the
scale,
bulk
coverage,
density
and
character
of
the
area
or
neighborhood,
but
in
which
it
is
located.
5
that
the
proposed
use
or
develop
will
generally
conform
with
the
comprehensive
plan.
Smart
growth
policies,
sustainable
economic
development,
strategic.
B
B
B
D
D
Good
evening,
I'm
gary
schreffler
with
mission
hospital,
I'm
the
director
of
facility
planning,
design
and
construction.
I've
been
a
employee
of
mission
hospital
for
just
shy.
15
years,
I'm
going
to
ask
more
and
also
to
come
up.
If
I
may
lorna's,
with
module
x
our
vendor,
who
supports
our
sign
program
at
mission
hospital,
you
asked
to
actually
point
out
all
of
the.
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
So
when
you
get
to
the
future
locations
you'll
see,
they
don't
have
a
particular
rendering
or
photo
with
them,
and
that's
because
it's
it's
unterman
at
this
point,
but
we
wanted
to
include
it
in
as
possibility
in
the
future
all
right.
Thank
you
all
right.
I
think
that's
it.
Thank
you
very
much.
We
will
go
ahead
and
open
for
public
comment
at
6:00.
B
Use
permits,
it
would
be
good
to
say
why
are
you
doing
this
change
and
it
seems
to
me
that,
because
you
have
changing
needs
or
to
improve
safety
whatever
it
is,
but
I
I
didn't
know
if
your
applique
would
just
for
the
go
to
these
commissioners
know
what
turtle
doing
it
and
you'll
resent
that
to
counsel
to,
but
it's
just
always
good
to
say.
Why
do
you
need
this
sure,
fair
point
so
obviously
mission
hospital?
You
know
we
have
a
canvas
right,
we're
a
large
facility.
At
this
address.
B
B
B
N
D
L
B
B
L
A
N
N
A
B
B
C
C
Different
uses
like
this
clinic
and
health
clinic
because
it's
the
same
thing
and
it's
always
been
interpreted
the
same
way
and
and
so
we
were
able
to
clean
up
some
of
those
differences
between
these
different
table
of
uses.
We
delivered
that
proposed
unification
to
staff
and
allowed
people
to
just
go
nuts
on
it
and
we
had
58
58
threads
up
sighs.
C
It's
not
just
58
comments
that
were
58
separate
threads
as
staff
commented
in
and
then
we
built
that
new
table
and
we
were
and
we're
about
ready
to
present
that,
and
then
I
learned
what
the
land
use
impact
table
was.
The
land
use
impact
table
is
a
table
that
governs
non-conforming
uses.
If
someone
has
a.
C
C
B
C
This,
I
think,
has
gotten
so
so
confusing
in
the
form
base
code.
We
have
a
separate
table
of
permitted
uses
and
this
is
really
what
started
this
whole
process.
We
want
to
bring
the
form
base
codes
into
the
main
table
and
just
make
one
giant
table.
The
form
base
code
also
happens.
A
separate
section.
H
B
C
I
E
E
E
E
The
upper
right
side,
you
can
see
the
low
medium
and
high
so
now
all
of
those
uses
have
been
broken
out
of
that
list
and
correspondent
with
the
traditional
use,
table,
format
and
people
can
just
say.
Ok,
I
have
this
use,
go
all
the
way
across
low.
Then
I
want
to
go
to
this
use
and
to
go
all
the
way
across
and
they'll
see
whether
it's
low,
medium
or
high.
E
E
Benefits
customer
service
for
people
that
have
existing
businesses
on
that
land,
use
in
fact
table
and
for
anybody
that
wants
to
do
development
anywhere
in
the
city.
It
lowers
complexity
for
staff,
interpretation
and
guidance,
so
it
reduces
staff
time
and
it
lays
the
groundwork
for
future
substantive
changes
with
more
engagement.
So
one
table
you'll
want
ain't
change.
E
E
E
Lists
where
it's
permitted
as
a
special
requirement,
so
you
would
have
the
s
in
in
the
table
and
then
you
would
have
list
in
the
special
requirements
that
out
its
specific
districts
by
name.
So
so,
if,
in
the
past,
somebody
change
the
use
from
s
to
pee
and
they
left
it
here,
you
would
have
an
inconsistency
and
there
are
plenty
of
those-
and
this
was
something
we
talked
with
chris
collins
about
and
correcting
this.
E
Everything
else
is
in
it
separate
location,
and
you
don't
have
to
worry
about
all
these
crazy
and
potential
internal
conflicts.
It'll
make
the
code
much
easier
to
use
and
much
easier
to
read,
and
so
that
spun
a
little
bit
up
and
cost
some
additional
work.
But
there
are
156,
maybe
changes
that
have
to
be
made
to
clarify
that,
but
again
they're,
not
substantive
changes,
they're,
just
cleaning
it
up,
simple
tool
to
use.
E
E
City
has
been
operating
under
this
interpretive
document
that
it
is
actually
permitted,
and
so
we're
correcting
that.
So
this
is
the
one
place
where
we're
actually
adding
a
permitted
use,
and
this
is
the
reason
why,
once
we
do
this,
this
kind
of
thing
will
be
very
easy
to
do
and
that
that's
that's
really
one
of
the
three
major
reasons
why
we
we
took
this
as
a
customer
requested
responding
to
requests
from
some
of
the
public.
I
believe
to
address
that
this
one
yeah
yeah
yeah
business
owners,
are
folding
in
now
for
expediency,
most.
E
E
E
E
Those
wording
amendments
in
addition
to
the
changes
in
the
table,
and
usually
you
have
materials
to
show
them.
Oh
this
is
a
changes,
will
be
making
in
the
udf-
and
I
just
speak
yeah,
so
we
were
done
with
that
until
we
did
until
until
we
decided
to
clean
up
these
references.
So
there's
about
seven
or
eight,
and
we
didn't
get
it
done
in
time.
It's
you're
going
to
be
so
there's
a
jay,
and
that
has
all
the
other
76
internal
references
that
are
being
changed.
E
The
amendments
to
the
the
proposed
wording
and
text
amendment,
if
we
don't,
if
that's
not
part
of
it,
well
yeah,
I
guess
I
was
just
thinking
for
your
presentation
purposes.
You
just
happen
to
have
just
that
one
page
just
to
show,
but
I
mean
technically,
you
could
bring
it
back
little
ones
if
the
way
not
allowed
to
give.
E
E
And
again
I
don't
know
if,
if
you
don't
have
it,
you
don't
have
it
I'm
just
trying
to
think
I
don't
want
to
hold
it
up
from
council.
This
is
something
you've
worked
on,
but
yeah
yeah
would
need
to
be
with.
You
could
approve
the
the
table,
but
you
don't
have
yet
well,
but
also
to
I
mean
it
need
the
other
materials
kind
of
effect.
Changing
the
table
in
a
sense
is
what
I'm
understanding
as
well,
and
I
mean
yes,
it
could
be.
E
E
We
don't
have
to
put
it
back,
you
know
you
don't
have
to
put
it
back
out
as
an
advertisement
and
posting
on
the
property,
because
I
was
no,
but
it's
got.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
something
in
the
only
thing.
I'm
thinking
is
because
it's
literally
it's
in
two
weeks
yeah,
I
got
it
we're
going
to
be
right
back
here,
so
I
mean
I
and
I
thought
the
timeframe
of
advertising
those
two
weeks.
We
continue.
E
E
Weekend's
became
about
to
call
with
me
I'm
perfect
haley.
I
can
have
this
on
thursday
and
friday
and
we
will
have
it
out
to
you
in
its
final
form,
which
will
be
in
the
form
that
the
council
will
look
at,
and
it
will
include
everything
so
that
you
have
all
the
information
to
vote
on
the
21st.
If
you
would
do
that,
I
would
would
really
appreciate
it.