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From YouTube: Affordable Housing Advisory Committee – August 3, 2023
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Regular meeting of the City of Asheville Affordable Housing Advisory Committee.
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A
B
C
All
right,
good
morning,
I'm
coach
here,
Margie
Bukowski
and
I'd
like
to
welcome
you
to
the
August
3rd
2023,
affordable
housing,
advisory
committee.
All
committee
members
and
staff
are
participating.
Virtually
we
are
streaming
live
on
our
virtual
engagement
Hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
Hub
link
on
the
front
page
of
the
city
website,
and
also
linked
on
the
committee
page.
We
also
have
an
option
for
the
public
to
listen
and
comment
live
by
phone.
Please
dial.
C
855-925-82801
and
use
meeting
code
7663
to
listen
in
for
those
of
you
out
there
with
us
today
welcome.
We
were
glad
you're
there
on
this
rainy
this
rainy
day,
please
be
sure
to
mute
your
microphone.
C
Is
David
not
with
us
today,
okay,
Barry
Bialik
good
morning,
Chris
day,
I
think
he's
gone
too
Paul
Heathman.
C
Tara
Irby
good
morning
do
you
want
a
little
Babs,
Phillip,
nawena,
Smith
and
Antoinette
Mosley
good
morning
good
morning,
okay
and
myself,
Margie
Bukowski
I'm,
hoping
that
everybody's
had
the
opportunity
to
read
all
of
the
action
minutes
from
last
month's
meeting,
and
so,
if
there
are
no,
are
there
any
changes
or
additions
or
comments
to
those
minutes
from
last
month?
C
G
H
G
C
Second,
oh
great
awesome,
I'm
gonna
take
a
vote
now.
Andy
Barnett.
D
I
C
Paul
Heathman,
aye,
Tara,
Irby,
aye
and
well
internet
doesn't
get
to
vote
so
and
myself
Margie,
Bukowski,
I,
okay.
So
now
we
have
a
little
bit
of
a
change
to
our
agenda.
C
We
had
a
presentations
that
was
going
to
be
scheduled
for
this
morning,
but
unfortunately
our
presenter
is
sick
and
is
not
able
to
be
here
to
to
do
that.
So
we're
going
to
move
on
to
the
work
plan,
items
which
is
on
your
agenda
and
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
connect
report
on
committee,
stakeholder
input
on
affordable
housing
and
the
scoring
criteria
so
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Andy.
F
Thanks
Margie
one
of
the
as
we've
been
looking
at
our
work
plan
for
this
year.
F
Two
of
the
key
items
were
to
provide
feedback
around
the
land,
use
incentive
grant
program
and
the
Housing
Trust
Fund
program,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
knew
we
needed
to
to
really
be
able
to
make
those
recommendations
was
to
have
a
little
bit
more
Community
representation.
Community
input
around
how
we
make
you
know
how
those
programs
are
affecting,
particularly
people
whose
housing
choice
is
constrained
by
their
income.
F
So
that
really
is
the
the
key
constituency
in
many
ways
for
for
the
work
that
this
committee
does,
and
so
the
connect
team
worked
on
developing
a
process
to
receive
that
Community
input
and
we're
going
to
go
through
that
a
little
bit
more
this
morning.
But
we
were
really
very
pleased
with
the
response
that
we
heard
from
the
community,
and
we
have
great
information
that
we
gathered
to
share
with
all
of
you
from
that
work.
F
I
want
to
recognize
as
we
get
started,
I
want
to
recognize
the
members
of
The
Connect
team
that
are
that
are
ahac
members,
Paul
and
Babs.
Both
did
really
incredible
work
around
this
ested
Emily
axman,
who
really
carried
the
ball
on
almost
all
of
this
and
you're
going
to
hear
a
lot
from
her
in
this
presentation.
F
This
was
really
a
very
heavy
lift
and
very
skillfully
done
by
Emily,
supported
as
well
by
a
couple
of
folks
who
are
on
the
connect
team,
who
are
not
ahac
committee
members,
Chris,
joyelle
and
and
Garrett
racic
from
Drive.
F
Both
contributed
a
lot
to
the
connect
teams
discussion
and
to
the
work
of
this
project.
So
I
see
Emily
is
getting
the
slides
up
on
the
screen
and
we
can
spend
a
little
bit
more
time
going
through
each
thing,
but
I
wanted
to
set
that
up
for
you
and
recognize
the
the
great
work
that
this
team
has
done.
F
This
is
really
the
first
time,
at
least
in
the
almost
six
years
that
I've
been
on
the
affordable
housing
advisory
committee
that
we
have
sort
of
proactively
gone
into
the
community
seeking
input
from
community
members
and
stakeholders,
rather
than
you
know,
sort
of
waiting
for
folks
to
come
back
to
us
through
the
public
comment
process
on
decision.
So
I
think
this
is
a
really
it's
a
really
great
step
for
ahac
and
a
really
important
precedent
for
for
future
activities
of
this
committee.
F
So
what
you'll
see
on
the
on
the
slide
right
now
sort
of
the
purpose?
Why
did
we
do
this?
I've
hit
that
mostly
already?
The
idea
was
to
really
make
sure
that
we
were
thinking
about
the
folks
most
affected
by
our
affordable
housing
decisions
and
the
city's
affordable
housing
policy.
Those
end
users
of
affordable
housing,
as
we
as
we
were,
making
decisions
and
recommendations
to
council
really
making
sure
that
we
were
being
that
Community
voice
on
affordable
housing
that
that
is
described
in
a
Hax
Charter.
F
So
I'm
going
to
let
Emily
pick
up
here
with
a
little
bit
of
how
we
did
this
and
what
was
involved
and
I.
Think
you'll
be
really
pleased
with
how
that
work
came
together.
Emily
yeah.
G
Thanks
Andy,
so
the
first
part
of
the
process
was
working
within
the
connect
group.
G
As
a
team,
we
identified
17
public
goods,
so
the
way
that
we
came
to
these
was
taking
a
look
at
both
the
Housing
Trust,
Fund
and
luige
policies
for
how
the
score
scoring
criteria
works
right
now,
what
you
get
points
for?
What
are
the
priorities
in
those
so
so
pulling
out
those
public
goods
as
well
as
taking
a
look
at
other
other
material
like
Equitable
development
and
from
there
listed
17
items
so
a
few
of
those
being
number
of
number
of
affordable
units.
G
So
we
felt
like
those
were
some
of
the
top
priorities
in
affordable
housing.
Our
the
second
part
of
the
process
was
to
take
a
look
at
local
stakeholders
and
try
to
identify
people
who
we
felt
were
intimately
involved
within
the
Asheville
Community
to
see
you
know
what
they
had,
what
their
thoughts
were
on
on
a
ranking
of
these
public
goods
and
what
they're
seeing
residents
and
community
members
needing
when
trying
to
access,
affordable
housing.
G
G
So
this
is
an
example
of
the
this
is
the
luige
policy
summary.
The
next
slide
shows
the
Housing
Trust
Fund.
So
we're
trying
to
do
is
explain
what
the
script
scoring
criteria
entails
and
then
also
give
a
case
study.
But
this
one
took
a
look
at
Laurelwood
Apartments,
so
for
the
email
we
sent.
G
This
out
asked
them
to
take
a
look
and
then
follow
up
with
an
online
survey
where
they
would
go
through
and
rank
those
17
public
goods
that
we
listed
on
the
previous
slide,
which
some
people
did
comment
is
somewhat
cumbersome.
G
G
Population
served
60
and
under
Ami
voucher
acceptance,
length
of
affordability,
population
served
again
that
one
being
80
to
100
Ami
and
then
converting
market
rate
housing
to
affordable
housing,
and
we
also
found
these
to
be
true
at
we.
We
did
a
Roundtable
discussion
with
seven
people
within
the
Housing
Community
to
get
a
better
understanding
of
their
perspective,
as
well
as
build
on
the
online
survey,
results
and
I'm,
going
to
turn
it
back
over
to
AMD
to
elaborate
on
the
results.
J
G
J
F
Thank
you
yeah
sorry,
trying
to
keep
the
background
noise
to
a
minimum,
but.
F
I,
really,
you
can
see,
we
were
really
focused
on
the
the
scoring
criteria,
as
as
a
part
of
these
two
programs,
not
the
validity
of
the
program
themselves.
That
was
just
kind
of
outside
of
the
scope
of
what
we
wanted
to
find
out
about.
We
really
wanted
to
know
of
the
things
that
we
are
valuing
when
we're
ranking
projects
for
funding.
F
Does
the
does
the
ranking
that
we're
using
currently
line
up
with
what
the
community
hopes
to
get
from
our
investment
in
affordable
housing
right?
So
we,
you
know
all
of
those
rankings
choices
that
we
that
we
make
in
scoring
projects
and
deciding
you
know
what
constitutes
a
quote-unquote
good,
affordable
housing
project
you
know
are
fairly
subjective,
and
so
we
really
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
holding
the
scoring
that
we're
currently
using
up
against
what
was
valued
in
the
community
and
it
was.
F
It
was
really
not
at
all
surprising
that
we
saw
the
highest
scores,
so
the
top,
the
top
five
or
so
priorities
that
the
community
had
worked
all
around
housing.
Affordability,
not
surprising,
because
a
this
is
these-
are
funds
for
the
creation
of
affordable
housing.
So
you
you
know
would
be.
F
F
Just
the
lack
of
available
units
that
are
that
are
priced
at
a
point
that
folks
can
afford,
and
so,
when
we've
kind
of
asked
that
question
in
the
focus
group
and
the
round
table
that
Emily
mentioned
people
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
understood
that
the
this
Focus,
particularly
on
those
top
on
that
top
score
for
number
of
affordable
units,
that
that
really
kind
of
eclipsed
a
lot
of
benefits
that
people
really
felt
like
were
important.
F
So
the
fact
that
things
are
lower
on
the
list
behind
that
really
says
more
about
how
difficult
it
is
to
find
housing
in
Asheville
than
that
other
things
are
lower
priority.
F
So
you
know
I
think
probably
half
the
responses
to
the
survey
rated
number
of
affordable
units
as
their
highest
priority,
not
because
everything
else
doesn't
matter,
but
just
because,
if
we
don't
have
units
on
the
market
for
people
you
know
to
to
be
able
to
access
the
other
things,
don't
matter,
but
the
other
things
really
matter
when
we're
thinking
about
when
we're
thinking
about
how
we
create
affordable
housing.
F
So
that
was
a
that's
an
important
point.
I
think
it's
it's
easy
to
and
I
think
Brian.
You
asked
this
question
when
we,
when
I
was
sharing
this
information
with
the
with
with
Margie
and
Brian
and
Sasha
before
this
meeting
you
know.
Does
that
just
mean
that
we
can
create
a
whole
bunch
of
really
terrible,
affordable
housing
units
and
that's
that
meets
the
goal
and
I
I.
F
Think
it's
important
to
say
all
of
these
things
are
important
to
people,
but
but
this
shortage
of
housing
that
we
face
right
now
is
really
is
really
top
of
mind
for
people
they
also.
The
focus
group
folks
also
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
we
understood
at
least
from
their
perspective,
that
respondents
were
likely
not
saying
the
number
of
affordable
housing
units
in
each
in
each
incentivized
development
right.
F
So
it's
not
so
important
that
you
know
a
project
that
we
invest
public
dollars
into
has
a
higher
percentage
of
affordable
units.
It's
about
the
total
quantity
of
units
that
we're
creating
in
the
market
to
try
to
fill
that
Supply
deficit.
F
There
was
also
a
very
clear
priority
around
the
need
for
affordability
for
very
low
income
households.
F
So
you'll
see
you
know
the
the
next
two
highest
ranked
criteria
really
get
to
you
know:
housing,
that's
deeply
affordable,
so
a
priority
for
below
sixty
percent
of
Ami
and
a
priority
around
voucher
acceptance,
which
is
really
the
key
way
that
we
get
to
below
60
Ami
and,
as
we
met
with
the
progress
group,
we
heard
lots
of
stories
about
how
difficult
it
is
to
to
place
a
voucher,
and
this
committee
spent
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
that.
F
So
I'm
not
going
to
belabor
that
point,
but
just
to
know
that
you
know
what
we've
heard
in
public
comment
and
what
we've
heard
from
presenters
from
the
Buncombe
County
rental
assistance.
Collaborative
you
know
this
Groundswell
around
voucher
acceptance
is,
is
very
real
in
the
community,
as
is
the
priority
for
serving
very
low-income
households,
particularly.
F
Another
thing
that
came
clear
in
the
survey
and
also
in
in
our
focus
group
was
a
focus
on
preserving
affordability
and
that's
something
that
the
current
programs,
don't
don't
really
allow
us
to
do
very
well.
So,
as
we
think
about
kind
of
the
policy
implications
of
this
community
input
process,
we
might
want
to
be
thinking
about
ways
that
we
can
incentivize
the
Crea
or
the
preservation
of
both
naturally
occurring
affordable
housing
and
housing
units
that
we've
already
subsidized
to
might
be
coming
to
the
end
of
their
affordability
period.
F
And
so
we
saw
that
in
the
rankings
around.
You
know
the
high
priority
that
people
put
around
length
of
affordability
and
the
question
of
converting
market
rate
housing
to
affordable
housing.
We
followed
up
with
the
focus
group
kind
of
what
did
what
did
people
mean
by
this?
They,
their
concerns
were
around.
F
F
And
how
do
we
protect
units
that
might
be
coming
to
the
end
of
their
affordability
period
so
that
they
don't
convert
to
market
rate
and
and
become
lost
to
the
affordable
housing
Supply
further
down
the
list
and
I
want
to
I
want
to
again
go
back
to
that
first
point
and
say:
you
know:
people
we're
not
saying
that
locational
factors
didn't
matter
in
affordable
housing
and
in
how
we
cite
affordable
housing
units.
But
as
we
get
further
down
into
the
line,
we
looked
at
locational
factors.
F
The
the
locational
factor
that
that
came
to
the
top
for
many
of
the
people
that
we
talked
to
in
the
survey
and
in
the
Roundtable
was
around
Transit
access,
so
exciting,
affordable
housing
near
to
Transit
lines
is
the
is
the
most
important
priority
within
the
community
in
terms
of
where
we
locate
affordable,
housing,
more
so
than
proximity
to
jobs
or
Green.
F
Space
again,
you
know,
focus
group
is,
you
know,
wanted
us
to
wanted
us
to
remember
that
all
of
these
things
are
important,
but
the
the
more
important
piece
is
that
Transit
access
again,
because
so
many
particularly
of
the
very
low
income
households
are
Transit
dependent
in
our
community.
F
Again,
I'm
going
to
go
through
and
just
hit
some
of
the
high
spots.
If
we
look
at
some
of
the
things
that
were
that
were
maybe
not
direct
housing
community
benefits,
so
not
things
having
to
do
with
the
type
or
location
of
affordable
units.
F
F
The
focus
group
also
suggested
that
you
know
Community
input
and
project
planning
probably
needs
to
be
higher
than
it
scored
and
that
that
would
kind
of.
In
addition,
getting
Community
input
in
the
project
sooner
would
help
with
a
lot
of
the
other
things
that
did
rank
higher
around
citing
decisions
and
and
depths
of
affordability
and
those
sorts
of
things.
F
We've
talked
a
lot
in
this
committee
about
the
mix
of
unit
sizes,
that's
desirable
in
the
community,
and
we
really
hoped
out
of
this
process
that
we
would
finally
know
the
answer.
Do
we
need
one
bedrooms?
Do
we
need
three
bedrooms?
Do
we
need
four
bedrooms
and
what
we
we
did
see
the
size
and
type
of
unit
was
was
a
priority
in
the
in
the
ranking
when
we
talked
to
the
focus
group
about
that
and
really
try
to
drill
into
that.
F
F
So
if
you
talk
to
someone
who's
mostly
serving
single
older
adults
with
disabilities,
they're
looking
for
one
bedroom
apartments
with
universal
design
features
if
you're
thinking
about
somebody
who's,
you
know
working
primarily
with
kids
in
schools,
they're
looking
for
those
family
sized
two
and
three
bedroom
units,
I
think
the
only
Clarity
that
came
out
of
this
for
me
was
that
a
range
of
units.
F
We
should
really
be
looking
at
projects
that
have
a
range
of
unit
types
or
creating
a
range
of
unit
types
across
the
portfolio
of
projects
that
we
invest
in
in
any
given
in
any
given
funding
cycle
and
that,
with
a
strong
focus
on
making
sure
that
you
know,
units
that
incorporate
Universal
Design
or
that
accommodate
people
with
physical
limitations
is,
is
in
the
mix
and
then
the
last
thing
that
kind
of
conclusion
that
our
team
Drew
from
this
process
was
that
we
were
surprised
to
see
that
developer
and
experience
and
project
viability
was
ranked
at
the
bottom
of
this
list.
F
That's
something
that
we
put
a
lot
of
stock
in
I
think
is
we're
reviewing
projects
and
in
our
current
rating
systems
you
know.
Is
it
likely
that
you
know
once
we
make
a
commitment
of
public
funds
to
a
project
that
the
Project's
actually
going
to
get
built
seems
like
a
pretty
straightforward,
an
important
criteria?
It
was
surprising
to
see
it
come
in
kind
of
pretty
much
dead.
F
Last
in
every
single
survey
we
got
back
and
what
one
Community
member
said
that
was
really
striking
to
me
in
the
in
the
round
table
was
that
if,
if
people,
don't
people
don't
see
if
community
members
don't
see
a
project
as
being
something
that's
for
them,
if
it,
if
the
affordability
levels
don't
seem
like
they're
Within
Reach
for
for
them
and
the
people
that
they
know
are
struggling
with
housing,
if
they
haven't
been
involved
in
the
in
the
project
planning
you
know
Upstream,
then
they
really
might
not.
F
F
If
it's
not,
if
community
members
don't
see
the
project
as
benefiting
them
and
I
thought
that
was
just
a
really
important
kind
of
piece
of
wisdom
from
the
community
to
for
us
to
end
this
section
on
to
just
make
sure
that
we're
thinking
about
you
know
the
need
for
Community
to
connect
with
the
projects
that
we
are
putting
their
money
into
as
being
something
that
does
benefit
them
and
the
people
that
they
know
are
struggling
with
affordable
housing.
F
So
I'm
gonna.
Maybe
this
is
a
good
time
to
stop
and
see.
If
there's
questions
from
the
committee
and
then
we've
got
I,
think
we've
got
a
couple
more
slides
to
round
things
out.
Thinking
about
what
our
next
steps
look
like,
but
I'm
I'd
love
to
take
a
second
and
see
if
there's
questions
that
the
committee
has
for
either
Emily
or
I.
E
Andy
I
was
interested
to
know.
You
know
what
community
organizations
housing
organizations
you
enlisted
to
to
take
part
of
the
surveying
and
the
focus
groups.
F
Yeah,
so
there
is
a
in
the
in
the
document.
That's
in
the
packet
on
this.
We
have
the
full
list
there.
There
were
about
40,
different
organizations
that
we
reached
out
to
between
the
survey
and
the
focus
groups.
F
We
tried
to
hit
both
folks,
that
are
you,
know,
kind
of
The,
Usual,
Suspects
of
housing
organizations,
groups
like
Mountain
housing
and
Community
Land
Trust,
but
also
we
tried
to
reach
out
to
some
groups
that
worked
more
directly
with
community
and
community
members,
so
groups
like
SEMA
and
groups
like
disability,
Partners
and
Western
Carolina
rescue
Ministry,
some
of
the
folks
who
who
have
who
have
direct
contact
with
the
people
who
need
affordable
housing
more
so
than
the
people
who
are
involved
in
providing
affordable
housings.
G
And
just
to
add
to
that
Andy
we
worked
with
Garrett
at
thrive
and
they
helped
a
lot
with
compiling
the
stakeholder
list.
So
big.
Thank
you
to
them
too.
F
Yeah
we
did
reach
out
to
the
Housing
Authority.
We
did
have
participation
from
the
Housing
Authority,
not
from
not
from
the
new
CEO.
We
were
doing
this
at
about
the
time
she
was
onboarding
so,
but
we
did
have.
We
did
have
input
I,
think
from
staff
and
from
someone
from
the
residence
Council.
F
And
to
that
point,
Tara
I'll
say
one
other
thing:
we
really.
We
spent
a
lot
of
time.
F
Thinking
about
you,
know,
I
think
our
first
preference
would
have
been
to
have
direct
engagement
from
from
affordable
housing,
residence
or
people
who
were
looking
for
affordable
housing,
really
to
have
that
you
know
not
to
have
it
come
through
an
intermediary,
and
one
of
the
reasons
that
we've
that
we
wanted
to
bring
this
project
online
right
now
was
to
start
building
up
the
base
of
community
participation
for
the
upcoming,
affordable
housing
plan,
and
hopefully
that
plan
with
it's
a
little
bit
more
resourced
than
kind
of
this
all
volunteer,
bootstrap
effort
that
that
Emily
basically
carried
the
ball
on.
F
You
know
we
just
as
a
as
a
volunteer
community.
We
shouldn't
have
the
resources
to
go
out
and
do
that
sort
of
person-to-person
and
kind
of
direct
to
the
user.
Community
engagement,
that's
really
the
way
community
engagement
should
be
done,
and
so
we
use
these
kind
of
intermediaries
of
of
agencies
that
we
knew
would
have
staff
time
to
commit,
and
you
know
that
we
could
reach
out
to
with
the
idea
of
laying
the
groundwork.
F
Then,
with
those
organizations
that
when
we
come
to
the
affordable
housing
plan
that
Sasha's
going
to
talk
about
next
they've
had
a
chance
to
think
about.
Oh
okay,
here's
how
we
could
get
here's,
how
we
could
get
direct
end
users
of
affordable
housing,
get
their
voices
at
the
table
in
in
a
different
way.
So
we
we
know
that
this
is
not.
You
know.
This
is
not
the
gold
standard
in
community
input
of
actually
having
Community.
You
know,
impacted
community
members
and
you
know,
voices
at
the
table.
B
Say
for
the
people
at
home
who
can't
read
the
chat?
So
let's
try
not
to
use
that
please
Emily
posted
36,
email
recipients
and
11
Roundtable
invitees,
there's
some
more
on
the
list
that
Brian
sent,
which
you
can
see
at
the
end
of
the
report
and
the
report
is
in
your
folder
I
could
post
a
link
if
you
want,
but
there's
a
memo
and
a
results
piece.
C
Emily
or
Andy
I'm
curious
to
know,
if
you
ask
the
question:
how
long
should
affordability
be,
because
this
is
one
of
the
issues
that
I
know?
That's
a
very
high
priority.
C
F
A
round
table
participants
were
really
interested
in
tools
that
would
create
you
know
very
long-term
affordability,
ground
ground
leases,
deed
restrictions,
things
that
created.
You
know
permanent
affordability,
but
again
their
comments
were
mostly
focused
on
the
the
need
to
preserve,
affordable
housing,
both
naturally
occurring
affordable
housing-
and
you
know
the
projects
who
might
be
coming
to
the
end
of
their
affordability
period.
So
you
know
thinking
about
the
the
length
of
affordability
in
a
in
a
newly
incentivized
project.
F
I
think
that
you
know
I
mean
reading
between
the
lines
from
what
I
think
I
heard
at
that
with
from
the
round
table
was
as
long
as
as
possible,
and
then
you
know
and
then
tools
to
help
preserve
that
Beyond,
its
initial
affordability
period,
if,
if
necessary,.
F
I
think
people,
just
you,
know,
I
again
kind
of
my
interpretation
of
what
I
heard
it.
It
seems,
like
folks,
feel,
are
really
concerned
about
what
feels
like
a
very
fragile,
affordable
housing
environment.
Like
that,
we,
you
know
we're
potentially
at
risk
of
losing
what
we
have
already
invested
in.
C
I
noticed
that
they
talked
about
taking
market
rate
apartments
and
turning
them
into
affordable
units
and
as
units
get
older
and
need
rehabbing
and
stuff
like
that,
I
think
that's
something
that
we
can
really
work
towards.
C
It
takes
a
lot
of
collaboration
with
the
developer
or
whoever
owns
it.
But
clearly
there
are
any
number
of
complexes
around
the
city
that
are
older
and
perhaps
could
be
turned
into
affordable
units.
F
The
folks
in
our
focus
group
mentioned
several
apartment
complexes
that
were
kind
of
naturally
occurring.
Affordable,
housing
or
you
know,
have
been
a
good
source
for
affordable,
more
affordable
rents.
For
folks
that,
were
you
know
going
through
a
change
of
management
going
through
them.
You
know
needing
major
capital
investment
and
becoming
you
know,
not
affordable
anymore.
F
So
if
we
can
figure
out
ways
to
get
in
front
of,
you
know
some
of
those
some
of
the
either
the
end
of
the
affordability
period
for
units
or
the
point
in
time
where
a
complex
might
need
an
influx
of
capital,
for
you
know,
for
repairs
and
upgrades
and
deferred
maintenance,
and
that
sort
of
thing
with
an
option
you
know
to
lock
in
affordability.
F
F
That's
a
that's
a
place
where
I
think
we
really.
You
know,
at
least
from
what
we
heard
in
this
survey
and
focus
group
a
place
where
we
could
really
put
some
energy
around
thinking
about
what
tools
might
work
and
how
we
monitor.
F
You
know
the
end
of
the
affordability
period
and
you
know
monitor
existing
properties
for
the
point
in
time
where
they
may
need.
You
know
an
influx
of
capital
for
repair
and
renovation
and
that
sort
of
thing
that
we
might
jump
in
and
say
you
know
if
you'll
guarantee,
affordable
rents,
we
can,
you
know,
provide
low-cost
financing
through
you
know
something
or
other
I,
don't
know
exactly
what
the
polypsy
tool
might
look
like,
but
like
there's
some
incentives
that
we
don't
have
to
hit
some
of
the
things
that
were
important
to
community
members.
C
Sasha
is
there
anything
that
you're
aware
of
where
that
would
prevent
the
city
from
taking
a
more
active
like
they
might
buy
a
a
complex
that
was
ending
its
affordability
period
and
then
resell
it
to
an
affordable
developer
or
try
to
redevelop
it?
It's
the
city
itself,
because
we've
talked
about
the
city
being
a
possible
owner
of
some
things
at
some
time.
B
Now
yeah
I
mean
I,
don't
know
that
legally
there's
a
problem
with
it.
I
mean
I
all
say
that
I
think
there
would
be
a
capacity
issue.
I
think
it
might
be
easier
to
negotiate
agreements
with
existing
owners
to
extend
their
affordability,
possibly
with
some
funding
Maybe
or
to
have
you
know
a
lot
of
cities
right
now
or
I.
B
Don't
have
a
lot,
but
there
are
cities
right
now
creating
what
they
call
preservation
funds
for
this
purpose
and
several
of
the
firms
we
interviewed
for
the
plan
talked
about
helping
cities
stand
up,
you
know,
figuring
out
all
the
policies
and
the
program
and
how
that
gets
funded.
C
Anybody
else
any
comments,
no
thank
you
Emily
and
Andy,
and
all
those
people
that
worked
on
this.
It
is
incredible.
It
really
is
awesome
and
you
you
really
went
above
and
beyond,
whatever
was
initially
expected.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
work.
I'm
sure
that,
as
we
work
with
more
of
the
Consultants
that
this
information
is
going
to
be
very
valuable
to
them.
So
so
now
we
should
move
on
to
Sasha
who's,
going
to
talk
to
us
about
the
affordable
housing
plan
and
what's
happening
there.
C
B
Thank
you,
I'm,
going
to
give
you
all
a
broad
update
today,
so
we
are
not
quite
as
far
along
as
we
might
thought.
We
were
our
project
manager
with
our
Consultants
on
vacation
this
week,
so
I'll
just
back
up
and
remind
you
of
what
we've
talked
about
before
first.
B
So,
as
you
all
may
remember,
we
released
an
RFP
back
in
May.
The
deadline
was
June
12th.
We
had
five
proposals
that
came
in
that
were
deemed
reviewable.
We
had
you
know
that
met
the
requirements
for
proposing
we
had
out
of
those
five.
We
had
three
great
National
firms
that
have
great
reputations,
who
do
this
kind
of
work.
Brian,
meffin
sat
in
on
the
selection
panel,
which
was
super
helpful.
B
We
did
kind
of
an
initial
initial
scoring
with
our
committee
decided
on
those
top
three
and
then
did
interviews
so
pretty
standard
typical
City
process,
so
each
team
presented
to
us-
and
there
was
General
agreement
on
the
top
two
and
really
the
top
one
most
people
felt
good
about,
and
that
was
Enterprise
Community
advisors.
B
Last
week
at
city
council
city
council
approved
our
ability
to
contract
with
them.
We
also
were
notified
early
June,
so
this
is
since
we
didn't
meet
since
we
haven't
met
since
June,
but
we
were
notified
that
we
were
awarded
a
fifty
thousand
dollar
Grant
from
Dogwood
Health
Trust,
which
was
very
helpful.
B
So
it
allowed
us
to
expand
our
budget
by
about
a
third
and
really
have
a
more
robust
process
and
Council
also
accepted
last
week,
and
so
we
are
working
we're
still
finishing
putting
just
the
final
touches
on
the
contract
piece
and
the
scope.
We
will
probably
have
an
internal
kickoff
with
an
internal
City
team
in
a
couple
weeks
and
generally
I
will
say
well
actually
before
I
move
on
I
don't
want
to
I
will
in
the
sorry,
in
your
folders.
B
Let
me
share
my
screen
here
so
in
your
folders.
I
did
put
the
Enterprise's
proposal.
If
you
have
a
lot
of
questions
about
who
they
are.
Enterprise
has
been
around
for
40
years
in
the
housing
business
and
they
are
known
nationally.
They,
you
know
actually
helped
put
together
deals,
so
we
are
working
with
the
branch
of
Enterprise
that
does
technical
assistance
and
does
planning
processes.
B
Well,
the
selection
panel,
I,
will
say.
Selection
panel
felt
really
good
about
them
because
they
bake
Equity
into
how
they
think
about
housing
and
how
they
operate
versus
The
Firm.
That
is
kind
of
AD
tacking
equity
on
because
they
know
they
have
to
do
it
for
for
clients.
If
you
will
so
because
Equity
is
hard
to
just
tack
on,
you
actually
really
have
to
bake
it
into
how
you
think
and
how
you
evaluate
things
and
what
recommendations
you
make
so
we're
really
excited
about
them.
B
B
We
are
going
to
start
sending
them
all
sorts
of
information
and
we'll
start
their
data
Gathering
and
investigation
and
we'll
probably
meet
with
them
ahead
of
time
and
really
talk
through
some
things,
so
they
want
to
when
they
come
here.
They
want
to
actually
have
a
lot
of
data,
so
they're
not
just
coming
here
with
with
a
blank
slate
and
then
I
think
their
plan
is
to
come
back
in
late
October
or
early
November
before
everybody
kind
of
disengages
for
the
holidays.
To
do
a
really
in-depth,
longer
visit
lots
of
focus
groups.
B
Interviews
with
folks,
and
that's
where
some
of
what
Andy
was
talking
about,
really
links
in
as
a
part
of
their
budget.
They
have
five
thousand
dollars
for
stipends.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
people
who
have
a
you
know
barriers
to
participation
or
incentives
so
that
we
can
get
to
those
hard
to
reach
folks
that
was
really
important
to
our
city
team
as
well.
B
The
initial
in
The
Proposal
you'll
see
it's
initially
kind
of
scoped
out
for
12
months.
We
asked
them
to
tighten
that
up,
because
we're
really
starting
Bond
planning
right
now
for
potential,
affordable,
housing,
Bond
and
with
just
all
the
different
things
that
we
do.
We
wanted
to
kind
of
shorten
that
timeline,
so
we're
really
looking
at
a
10-month
timeline
with
the
goal
of
getting
to
city
council
for
approval
before
the
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year,
if
at
all
possible.
B
So
I
think
that's
all
I
have
unfortunately,
I
wish
I
had
more
to
tell
you,
but
we're
really
excited.
It
feels
really
good
that
your
the
connect
committee
work
and
the
Thrive
work.
That's
wrapping
up.
You
know,
reparations
is
getting
to
a
certain
point.
Missing
middle
is
almost
done,
so
all
of
these
things
are
going
to
feed
right
into
this
plan.
Hopefully,
so
they
will
have
lots
of
newish
data
and
new
discussions
and
an
input
to
start
from.
Does
anybody
have
any
questions
and
Brian's
here
as
well
too?.
C
How
will
ahec
be
involved
in
working
with
the
Consultants.
B
Right
so
there
will
be
an
advisory
committee.
We
haven't
totally
figured
that
out
yet,
but
ahac
will
be
involved
with
that
and
we
will
bring
that
back
to
you
all
in
September
and
I
think,
regardless
of
how
that
you
know
exactly
works
out,
what
I
I?
Did
this
really
a
really
long
time
ago,
I
hate
to
even
admit.
B
15
years
ago
I
product
project
managed
the
downtown
master
plan
and
I
was
at
the
downtown
commission
every
single
month,
giving
them
an
update
and
they
had
a
number
of
members
there,
and
but
they
had
a
lot
of
involvement.
So
there's
the
advisory
committee
possibility
there's
focus
groups,
there's
interviews,
there's
all
kinds
of
different
roles
and
I
hope.
With
these
with
these
processes,
it's
always
tricky
that,
if
you're
on
an
advisory
committee,
sometimes
it's
tempting
to
just
not
participate
in
other
ways.
B
Just
I,
don't
I
can
talk.
I
can
keep
talk.
You
you
all
know
me.
I
can
keep
rambling
on
forever.
I
won't
do
that,
but.
I
I
think
we've
got
some
really
good
proposals.
There
was
a
tremendous
amount
of
commonality
between
the
really
to
talk
to
choices
that
we
had.
Both
of
them
have
done
have
done
over
10
City,
affordable
housing
plans,
which
you
know
you
you
could
go
through
and
look
at
them.
They
were
very
Enterprises
plans
were
very
action,
oriented
in
and
phased
and
approached.
So
these
are
things
we
recommend
you
doing
12
to
18
months.
These
are
18
to
36
months.
I
These
are
Beyond
36
months
so
and
they
they
did
get
to
a
high
degree
of
specificity
and
their
recommendations,
which
is
good
in
the
other
communities.
Reports
that
we're
able
to
look
at
so
I
have
high
confidence
that
they'll
do
a
good
job
from
a
Consulting
structural
perspective.
They
use.
They
have
a
pretty
large
team
that
would
be
involved
in
this
and
like
there's,
they
have
sort
of
one
group
that
sort
of
does
more
of
the
public
engagement
phase
and
data
Gathering,
and
then
another
group
that
comes
in
after
Falls.
Afterwards.
I
It
gets
more
into
the
recommendation,
specific
things
and
a
report,
so
we
may
see
some
turnover
in
the
team
as
a
as
the
project
progresses.
But
that's
that's
not
a
bad
thing.
It's
just
they've
just
said
they
have
a
segmented
approach
to
doing
some
of
the
work,
but
I'm
highly
confident.
They'll
do
a
good
job
and
we
think
the
one
thing
that,
as
Sasha
mentioned,
we're
trying
to
inclusive
on
the
time
frame.
They
originally
laid
out
a
12-month
time
frame
or
trying
to
get
it
done
in
10
rather
than
12.
and.
J
I
Take
12
is
that,
historically,
in
working
with
municipalities,
they
have
been
slow
to
produce
documents
and
organize
meetings
and
facilitate
like
conversations
with
developers
and
things
like
that
and
so
I
think
that's
one
of
the
roles
that
they
had
can
play
is
making
sure
we
Grease
the
wheels
along
the
way
to
make
sure
the
project
happens
at
a
time.
B
B
Just
as
a
quick
reminder,
what
they'll
be
doing
is
doing
some
updates
of
our
data.
Looking
at
the
Boeing
report
and
doing
some
updates
there,
they
will
be
kind
of
picking
up
the
ball
on
the
wage
and
Housing
Trust,
Fund
and
city-owned
land,
and
evaluating
how
we've
been
doing
making
recommendations
for
changes
on
those
programs
and
then
also
looking
at
like.
Are
there
new
things?
B
We
should
be
doing
like
a
preservation
fund
or
a
no,
you
know
NOAA
and
then,
if
we
have
a
bond,
how
should
you
know
to
me
the
big
questions
are:
what
should
we
be
prioritizing
as
a
city
like?
Should
we
be?
You
know
60
Ami,
like
our
goal?
Is
it
30?
You
know
what
is
our
focus
and
I
think
the
bedroom
question
I
hope
they
can
help
us
resolve
and
and
then
lastly,
like,
what's
our
roadmap
for
implementation,
and
if
we
have
a
bond,
how
how
should
we
spend
those
those
funds.
C
Well,
thank
you
Sasha
I!
Guess
we
will
let
you
just
keep
continuing
and
talk
about
CED
and
if
the
affordable,
housing
division
update,
oh
sure,.
B
I'm
from
my
Division
I
guess,
I
would
say:
I'm
recruiting
folks
from
my
position
in
the
affordable
housing.
Specialists
have
gotten
a
number
of
applications,
I'm
going
to
start
doing
an
initial
interviews,
hopefully
next
week
or
soon
and
from
a
department-wide
I'll
just
do
Staffing.
First,
we
have
Kimmy
Hunter
I,
don't
know
if
any
of
you
know
her
she's
a
realtor
she's,
starting
as
our
real
estate
manager
next
Monday.
So
we're
super
excited
about
that.
B
Promise,
Bozeman
who's
been
in
our
department,
has
been
promoted
and
is
now
running
the
Kayla
program
and
she's
doing
a
great
job.
She
was
the
interim
Kayla
director
over
the
summer.
She
did
an
amazing
job.
They
just
did
their
kind
of
closing
ceremony
program.
Last
Friday
super
inspiring.
B
Those
kids
are
amazing.
I
couldn't
believe
like
how
amazing
they
were
and
then
more
actively.
We
have
another
Community
Development
analyst
too,
that's
starting
near
the
end
of
August.
B
It's
still.
We
still
have
some
vacant
positions
in
our
department
and
we're
continuing
to
kind
of
recruit
and
interview
progressively,
as
we
can
other
updates
bigger
picture.
Since
we
haven't
met
since
June
June
22nd
city
council
approved
319
Biltmore
the
conditional
Zoning
for
that
project.
So
that's
moving
forward.
B
They
have
to
now
go
back
to
final
TRC
with
you
know,
more
detailed
plans
for
the
project
and
we're
working
on
a
draft
agreement
with
them
on
July,
25th
or
sorry
on
June
22nd
also
city
council
approved
the
recommendation
to
temporarily
suspend
applications
and
awards
for
micro
unit
Apartments
and
then
just
last
week
we
had
there
were
three
items
on
the
agenda.
The
micro
unit
project
was
at
city
council,
which
did
get
approved
in
the
end
at
Aston,
Street
and
then
on.
B
The
consent
agenda
were
the
affordable
housing
plan
and
the
Dogwood
Grant
upcoming
is
in
a
couple
of
weeks
two
and
a
half
weeks.
Haywood
Street
Community
Development
their
development
over
there
on
West
Haywood
Street.
They
have
redesigned
that
project.
It
was
on
two
parcels
and
it
was
four
or
five
stories.
They
ended
up
securing
a
third
parcel
to
the
north
and
they
are-
and
this
is
partly
I-
think
maybe
largely
driven
by
construction
costs.
B
They
had
a
concrete
Podium
that
they
were
building
on
top
of,
and
it
was
just
I
think
not
becoming
viable,
as
was
earlier
viable
projects,
so
they
are
spreading
that
building
out
so
it'll
be
a
three
four
split
with
three
at
the
front
on
Haywood
Street
facing
the
neighborhood,
which
I
think
will
be
more
acceptable
to
the
neighbors
folks
were
really
concerned
about
the
impact,
the
visual
impact
of
that
building
on
their
neighborhood,
and
then
they
have
a
parking
lot
to
the
side
instead
of
behind
the
building.
B
And
if
you
just
as
a
reminder
that
West
Hayward
piece
of
land
is
kind
of
above
240.,
so
it's
a
hill
slanting
down
to
the
highway,
which
also
I'm
sure
increases
construction
costs.
B
They
have
also,
as
a
part
of
these
changes,
they've
requested
some
changes
to
their
loan,
not
the
terms
of
the
loan,
but
the
kind
of
affordability
they
had
different
and
I
can
go,
find
it
pretty
easily,
but
they
had
three
bands
of
affordability
and
they're
actually
requesting
that
all
the
units
be
affordable
at
80
percent,
but
they
will
be
reserving
90
percent
of
the
units,
so
38
of
the
units
for
voucher
holders,
so
that
will
really
reach
30
to
50
percent
Ami.
B
It
gives
them
a
little
bit
more
flexibility
and
then
three
units
will
be
three
bedroom
units
for
80,
Ami,
they've.
Also
a
part
of
these
changes.
The
number
of
units
is
going
from
45
units
total
to
41.,
so
the
sub
per
unit
subsidy
goes
up
a
little
bit,
but
it's
still
well
within
our
policy
bounds
and
seems
reasonable.
B
There
is
participation
in
this
project
from
Dogwood
in
Buncombe
County,
as
well,
just
as
a
reminder
so
that
that
piece
of
this
project
will
be
at
hcd
on
Monday,
August
21st,
and
that
meeting
just
got
changed
to.
Was
it
two
o'clock
now
it's
1
30
because
there's
an
event
happening
later.
So
that's
when
hcd
will
be
this
month
and
then
the
next
night
it
will
be
at
city
council.
B
Any
questions
about
that
or
I'll
keep
going
and
then.
Lastly,
as
I
said
earlier,
the
missing
middle
studies
wrapping
up
there
is
a
workshop,
this
Friday
from
4
to
7
pm,
because
I
know
you
all
need
something
to
do
on
a
Friday
afternoon
and
evening.
I
know
I'm
sure
Scott
will
be
there
right.
Maybe
and
I
could
actually
I
don't
want
to
go
into
your
update,
but
so
I
will
stop
there,
but
I
will
be
there
as
well.
Volunteering
and
I'll
let
Emily
and
Scott
come
and
give
that
update.
C
D
Sure
and
Emily
chime
in
if
I
miss
anything
but
so
and
just
as
a
reminder,
Emily
and
I
are
members
of
the
missing
middle
advisory
working
group
we're
representing
aik,
and
we
met
virtually
with
the
consultants
and
City
Staff
last
Thursday
the
27th,
to
get
a
brief
presentation
on
their
draft
report
on
barriers
that
the
report
that
just
came
out
and
I
suppose
Emily
I,
don't
know
I
guess
we
should
share
that
with
the
group.
D
It's
it's
still
very
much
in
a
draft
form,
but
very
quick
overview
of
its
three
basic
levels.
Housing
need
analysis.
That
kind
of
you
know
repeats
a
lot
of
the
things
that
were
have
been
in
the
Bowen
study
and
other
findings.
D
You
know
talking
about
missing
middle
ready
locations,
so
looking
at
both
the
comp
plan
and
Zoning
districts
and
then
of
course,
chapter
three
is
looking
at
zoning
barriers
and
just
a
couple
of
quick
tidbits
that
I
pulled
just
glancing
at
both
the
presentation,
the
posters
that
they'll
plan
to
present
at
the
study
or
at
the
event,
at
the
Civic
Center
and
from
the
report,
a
couple
of
quick
things
that
they
note
you
know
accessory
Doling
units
right
now,
they're
restricted
to
single-family
homes
and
they're
capped
at
800
square
feet.
D
They
were
noting
that
currently
there's
a
20
20
foot,
landscape,
buffer
required
between
single
family
and
multi-family
zones.
So
there's
a
question
about:
do
you
really
need
a
buffer
between
residential
and
residential
and
also
they
note
in
the
report
that
we've
got
about
a
97.4
rental
occupancy
rate,
so
pretty
darn
full?
D
So
definitely
all
things
pointing
to
just
the
need,
for
you
know
more
Supply
at
all
price
points
at
any
price
point
yeah,
as
Sasha
had
mentioned
tomorrow,
is
the
open
house
I
plan
to
be
there
both
representing
ahank
and
also
just
the
larger
advisory
working
group
and
we've
kind
of
been
tasked
with
you
know
posting
ourselves
at
the
posters
to
try
and
answer
questions
and
I've
been
trying
to
look
over
the
materials
as
fast
as
I
can
to
become
more
conversant
in
them,
but
that's
just
kind
of
a
quick
summary
of
what's
going
on
and
Emily
if
you've
got
anything
to
add
I'd
welcome.
G
Yeah,
the
only
thing
I
have
to
add
is
that
and
Sasha
had
sent
this
out.
G
Renter
survey
still
gathering
information
from
any
renters
that
you
know
in
our
community
so
send
that
out.
If
you
can
I
think
that
perspective
will
be
really
helpful.
That
was
one
of
the
perspectives
that
they
were
missing
thus
far
in
there
in
the
study
and
yeah
Scott,
you
think
that
we
should
send
out
the
the
draft
I
mean
it
seems
like
they're
looking
for
feedback
from
anybody,
who's
willing
to
read
through
the
90
pages.
So,
okay.
G
A
To
clean
up,
you
know
this:
this
group
can
certainly
review
it,
but
it's
it's
not
ready
for
the
public,
because
it
has
so
many
missing
things
and
items
that
need
to
be
filled
in
still.
A
It'll
be
an
open
house
from
four
to
seven,
so
people
can
come
at
any
time.
We'll
have
a
series
of
five
different
stations
each
one
with
various
posters
that
ask
questions.
So
people
can
read
through
to
understand
the
history
and
the
topic
and
to
provide
input.
So
it's
interactive
they'll
be
staffed
there
to
answer
any
questions,
and
so
it's,
it's
kind
of
you
know
like
a
self-guided
tour,
so
to
speak
with
with
staff
around,
to
provide
any
input
and
dialogue.
B
A
They
have
they're
they're,
just
starting
to
work
on
that
and
and
it'll
it'll
start
in
full
force.
After
the
workshop,
the
open
house,
then
they'll
start
doing
that
and
I
believe
the
subconsultants
are
working
or
starting
to
work
on
the
the
displacement
risk
analysis,
but
together
between
that
and
the
recommendations,
we
should
be
getting
them
in
about
a
month
in
draft
form.
H
A
A
C
A
Well,
after
the
the
draft
is
cleaned
up,
it'll
be
ready
for
the
public
to
look
at
the
draft.
The
I
guess
it'll
at
that
point,
it'll
be
the
final
memo
on
the
barriers
to
infill
The
Next
Step
will
be
reviewing
the
draft
recommendations
that
we
should
get
in
about
a
month
and
that
should
be
responding
to
further
input
that
we
get
that
we
get
from
the
open
house
tomorrow
as
well.
As
you
know,
anything
else
that
they
develop.
A
I,
don't
know
I'm,
not
sure,
that's
a
good
question
I
suppose
it
would
go
to
go
to
council
at
least
as
a
report.
I
don't
know
if
it
needs
to
be
adopted,
but
that
we
can
have
a
discussion
about
that.
C
Well,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that,
okay,
so
now
we're
gonna
jump
to
a
kind
of
a
report
on
the
build
task
force
which
is
Barry
Bialik
and
myself
and
Barry.
Do
you
want
to
talk
about
what
you've
been
doing
and
I'll
talk
about
what
I've
been
doing.
H
Sure
you
think
dates
that
are,
you
know,
related
things
that
have
kind
of
grown
out
of
ahac
and
build.
We
yesterday
we
I
did
the
Udo
Amendment
for
flag
lot
changes
to
open
up
more
buildable
Lots
in
cities
that
went
through.
That's
that
went
through
pnz
was
passed
by
pnz,
with
the
ask
that
it
go
through
some
technical
review
before
going
to
city
council,
but
you
know
I'm
hoping
I
can
I
can
share
the
study
and
that
I
mean
if
you
could
I
could
share
the
study
and
what
was
put
together.
H
But
you
know
the
net
results
could
be
the
opening
up
of
you
know:
12
000,
building
Lots
in
the
city
that
are
small.
That
could
be,
you
know,
help
bring
price
point
down,
which
is
what
the
goal
is.
So
that's
one
thing
that's
kind
of
grown
out.
You
know
I've
used
the
example.
You
know.
H
One
of
the
examples
when
I
was
speaking
was
our
house
cost
studies
that
we
look
at,
that
you
know,
there's
reports
that
prepare
about
house
costs
and
that
we
started
tracking
land
and
realizing
that
there's
no
land
less
than
125
000
in
the
city
and
that
there's
a
need
to
open
up
more.
So
this
was
a
tool
I
think
there
will
be
a
future.
You
know
there
will
be
an
opportunity
with
that
like
what
I
is
I,
don't
know
how
we,
you
know,
margin,
Andy,
Melo
working
on.
H
You
know
a
future
agenda
to
discuss
what
kind
of
incentives
or
rebates
or
something
to
some
kind
of
incentives
for
how
how
some
of
these
new
potential
flag
lots
that
could
open
up
or
Cottages
could
be
could
be
affordable,
housing
or
Workforce
housing
incentives.
You
know,
I
know
we
don't
have
really
any
Financial
incentives
for
Workforce
housing,
but
in
the
the
Udo
does
have
a
base.
H
In
certain
incentives
or
fast
tracking,
if
it's
affordable
housing,
you
know
I,
don't
know
if
there's
something
we
can.
That
would
be
something
to
look
at
to
see
how
that
could
apply
to
the
possibility
of
New
Lots
coming
on.
But
that's
that's.
That's
that's
the
piece
on
that.
So
it's
it's
kind
of
In
Motion,
the
other
thing
I'd
share
and
I
do
and
I
think
you
know
everyone,
but
you
know
everyone
who
supported
that
it
was.
You
know,
had
people
from
the
committee
who
wrote
letters
that
came
out
to
support.
H
We
actually
had
endorsement
letters
from
the
board
of
realtors
from
the
Home
Builders
Association
and
from
the
Restaurant
Group.
So
I
think
that
you
know
that
all
the
voices
and
support
really
helped
it
get
the
attention
and
move
through
pnz.
So
thank
you
on
that
I'll
update
on
the
two
yeah
I
can,
if
you
want
Margie
I,
can
update
on
the
two
Housing
Trust
Fund
applications,
okay,
so
the
ones
the
one
that
was
approved
and
moving.
You
know
that
I'm
working
on
is
Stewart.
H
The
steward
Street
Cottages,
which
was
you
know,
kind
of
in
the
news
yesterday
with
the
all
the
drug
needle
cleanup.
We
had
to
do
on
that
site.
So
that's
kind
of
where
that
was
that's.
You
know
that's
an
anchor
we're
putting
10
houses
on
there's
a
Housing
Trust
Fund
loan
that'll
be,
for
you,
know,
part
of
the
construction
and
then
once
the
construction
is
done,
we
have
I
think
it's
about
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
we
can
turn
over
and
create
a
down
payment
assistance
program.
H
For
so
what
I'm
doing
in
the
beginning
is
we're
getting
kind
of
the
sight
ready.
You
know
the
site
was
had
a
lot
of
drug
needles
on
it,
so
we
cleaned
that
up.
One
thing
that
also
really
helps
is
I.
I
heard
how
you
know
the
there
was.
You
know,
there's
a
needle
needle
exchange
program.
That
was
just
two
blocks
from
it,
so
people
would
get
their
needles
and
go
shoot
up,
so
the
I
believe
the
Housing
Authority.
H
Someone
had
asked
them
to
not
do
that
there
on
that
property
anymore,
and
that
has
really
helped
like
yeah.
Just
just
telling
them
don't
do
it.
There
has
really
helped
so
now
that
the
site
is
cleaned
up
from
Needles
and
we've
cleared.
We've
cleared
cutter
line
on
the
streets,
there's
nowhere
to
hide
behind
it
to
shoot
up
we're
now
moving
forward
with
kind
of
our
development
plan
for
that.
H
So
that
would
be
the
next
step
and
it's
it's
it's
just
active
lot,
so
we'll
be
going
right
to
building
permit
we'll,
probably
be
doing
the
first
four.
What
I'm,
what
I'm
working
on
is
trying
to
line
up?
Who
the
buyers
will
be
so
meaning
that
I've
spoken
with
Anna
at
the
land
trust
scene.
I
actually
seen.
H
Do
that
and
then
also
going
to
sit
down
with
pakka
about
the
people
who
are
on
the
voucher
program
like
who
are
going
through
the
voucher
program
for
using
the
vouchers
for
mortgage
homeownership.
But
what
I
really
like
to
do
is
try
to
identify
the
people
who
could
be
living
there
before
you
know
we'll
start
the
construction
and
but
it'll
be
good
to
have
kind
of
the
get
the
people
ready
now
so
that,
if
it
takes
a
year
to
build,
then
we've
got
we're
creating
the
right
product
for
them.
H
So
that's
what
we're
working
on
with
that,
but
we're
going
to
start
start.
You
know
we're
going
to
start
fencing
off
the
property
and
start
construction
over
there
really
soon.
Now
that
my
team's
not
afraid
to
go
to
the
site,
so
it
looks,
it
looks
a
lot
better
over
there.
So
that's
one!
The
other
one
is
the
Oak
Hill,
which
is
the
city
owned,
the
city-owned
property
that
we
made
a
proposal
for
that
council
at
the
meeting
asked
staff
to
cons.
H
You
know
work
on
negotiations
with
us
for
that
we've
had
a
public
meeting
with
the
community
to
get
some
input.
We
also
met
with
Emma
poder
group.
Last
week,
Sasha
and
I
went
there
and
again,
I
kind
of
would
like
almost
that's
a
mixed
project
of
rental
and
home
ownership,
and
you
know
waiting
the
the
first
thing:
we're
waiting
for
there's
an
environmental
piece.
The
city
has
has
ordered
and
we're
waiting
for
that
to
come
back
before
I
really
spend
any
time
or
invest
any
any
funds
into
it.
H
So
as
soon
as
that
comes
back,
our
goal
would
again
similar
to
the
Stewart
Street,
it's
kind
of
looking
at
a
big
project
where
they
go
like
my
goal
in
the
end
of
it,
with
the
rentals
isn't
to
own
the
rentals.
My
goal
is
to
kind
of
identify
the
partners
that
we
would
essentially
be
developing
at
four,
so
same
thing
with
land
trust
same
thing
with
maybe
Emma
poder.
We
even
talked
about
the
idea
of
how
we
can
work
with
them
that
they
could
own
some
of
them.
H
So
there's
you
know
I
think
once
we
once
we
have
clearance
or
understand,
and
the
city
has
moved
past
the
environmental
issues
that
they
have
concerns
about.
Then
we
can
really
look
at
like
how
we're
gonna,
how
we're
going
to
break
this
up.
But
you
know
my
my
plan
is
to
kind
of
develop
the
property
in
as
where
the
mixed
rental
and
ownership,
where
some
of
the
groups
are
identified.
J
C
Okay,
well
I'm,
going
to
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
what
I
have
done.
You
know
the
housing
Community
Housing
Development
Group
tasked
ahac,
with
looking
at
the
Luigi
policy
and
kind
of
doing
a
a
deep
dive
and
trying
to
find
out
where
we
could
make
it
better.
Do
we
really
need
it?
What
could
take
its
place?
C
What
are
the
barriers
that
we
run
into
developers
run
into
all
the
time
so
I
put
together
some
questions
based
off
comments
that
we've
had
in
our
aha
group
and
I,
sent
it
out
to
14
developers,
there's
four
local
developers
that
work
in
this
type
of
Arena
and
then
10
developers
that
are
building
in
the
city,
but
they
are
not
from
the
city
so
that
went
out
this
week
and
I
have
asked
for
the
information
to
come
back
by
next
Wednesday
I'm
keeping
my
fingers
crossed.
This
is
vacation
time.
C
So
you
never
know
if
you're
going
to
get
it
back
exactly
when
you
want
it,
but
when
we
get
the
information
back
I'm
going
to
share
it
with
ahac
and
we'll
put
together
some
type
of
a
you
know
something
for
hcd,
so
that
they
can
look
at
it
and
see,
what's
literally
coming
from
developers
that
are
working
in
the
city.
C
So
we're
hoping
that's
going
to
give
us
some
good
information
before
we
start
working
with
the
Consultants
to
to
really
see
what
we
can
do
with
luige
and
how
it
can
work
better
for
all
participants
and,
as
also
I
talked
a
lot
about
vouchers
in
these
questions.
So
we'll
get
a
lot
of
feedback.
I!
Think
on
you
know,
if
you
get
far
fair
market
rate
value,
is
there
some
other
issue
that
we
don't
know
about
as
to
why
you
would
not
take
vouchers
so.
C
C
So,
let's
talk
about
you
know:
what's
coming
up
future
agenda
items,
we're
running
it.
You
know
we've
got
since
we
didn't
have
that
presentation.
We
actually
are
running
with
some
excess
time
on
it,
but.
C
There's
some
events
coming
up
that
we
talked
about
and
Sasha
you
want
to
go
over
those
events.
B
Oh
sure
I
mean
we've
talked
about
missing
metal
I,
don't
feel
any
need
to
say
more
about
that.
I
know
this
is
after
your
next
meeting,
but
late
September,
there's
the
affordable
housing
Fair
over
at
the
realtor's
office.
B
Like
I
say
lots
are
I
just
want
to
make
sure
people
know
what
we're
talking
about
a
21
restaurant
Court
just
off
Tunnel
Road,
there's
not
a
panel
this
year,
so
it's
booths
of
different
all
kinds
of
different
great
things:
Realtors
Bankers
service
providers,
I
do
think
they're
providing
they're
providing
a
launch
off
of
a
food
truck.
If
you
want
to
go
I,
think
and
I
guess
the
big
maybe
most
importantly,
we've
got
two
openings
for
ahac
seats.
B
The
closing
date
for
applications
is
August,
27th
and
so
reach
out
to
folks
you
think
should
maybe
apply
and
and
I
don't
know.
If
you
all
want
to
discuss
that
at
all.
But.
C
F
To
just
said
about
open
seats,
it's
a
really
important
time
for
a
hack
to
be
as
as
representative
of
the
community
as
we
can
be
going
into
this
affordable
housing
plan.
The
people
who
are
on
ahac
as
this
plan
moves
forward
and
then
who
become
the
folks
who
will
have
a
key
role
in
oversight
of
the
plan
and
implementation
and
setting
priorities
and
all
of
those
things
that
are
in
our
in
the
ahac
charter.
F
These
two
open
seats
right
now
are
a
really
great
opportunity
to
bring
some
people
on
who
will
be
leaders
in
the
creation
of
this
plan
and
then
still
be
around
to
to
to
oversee
how
the
plan
rolls
out
and
is
implemented,
and
so
I
would
just
if
you've
got
people
who
are
thinking
about.
You
know
a
hack
or
if
you
have
people
who
you
think
really
would
be
an
important
voice
to
have
at
the
table
on
that.
F
They've,
probably
never
an
unimportant
time
to
have
folks
good
folks
on
this
committee.
But
this
is
a
particularly
important
time
to
fill
those
seats
with
folks
who
can
who
can
provide
sustained
leadership
and
and
really
help
us
represent.
The
community
in
the
in
the
adoption
and
implementation
of
this
plan.
A
Yeah
yeah
I
just
want
to
add
I,
believe
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
is
looking
for
some
Commissioners
as
well
and
I
think
it's
related
to
your
work
and
and
similarly
important
so
spread
the
word
for
that.
E
A
H
Thanks
actually
do
you
know
Padilla
actually,
because
I
think
the
pnz
one
is
passed.
I
think
that
unless
they're
going
to
reopen
it
because
I
heard
they
didn't
really
have
applicants,
but
the
pnz
applications
I
believe
were
already
due
in.
A
H
H
So
I
don't
know
if,
like
you
want
each
of
the
Committees
to
focus
on
trying
to
find
people
or
how
you
want
to
handle
it
but
I'd,
you
know
I
think
it's
worth
talking
about.
Who
are
this?
What
are
the
seats
you
want
to
fill
so
we
can
try
to
Target
those.
J
I
was
just
going
to
go
back
to
the
pnz
discussion.
I
will
say
that
the
applications
have
closed
and
we
will
be
conducting
interviews
on
the
22nd
boards
and
commissions.
C
Sasha,
can
you
tell
us
which
categories?
Because
we
have
Realtors
Bankers
construction,
all
kinds
of
things
of
that
nature,
so.
C
B
Somehow
we
have
the
Housing
Authority
listed
twice,
not
sure
if
that
was
intentional
or
or
not,
but.
F
One
thing
we
haven't
had
for
a
while
on
the
committee
is
someone
from
the
neighborhood
associations
and
I
would
think
particularly
Legacy.
Neighborhoods
would
be
great
to
have
on
the
committee.
C
For
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
so
again
it's
closing
on
August
27th,
so
you've
got
about
three
weeks
to
work
on
that
so
and
so
do
we
have
any
other
upcoming
things
that
we
want
to
talk
about
before
I.
Ask
about
public
comment.
C
Nope,
okay,
do
we
have
any
public
comments,
Sasha,
there's.
C
Well,
unless
there
is
any
other
business
that
we
need
to
do
we're
going
to
be
joining
early,
and
we
appreciate
everybody
being
here
and
so
I
will
adjourn
this
meeting.