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A
Good
evening
welcome
to
the
asheville
city
council
meeting.
My
name
is
esther
manheimer,
I'm
the
mayor
of
the
city
of
asheville,
I'm
going
to
read
you
some
opening
remarks
as
I've
been
doing
throughout
these
virtual
meetings.
So
we
get
all
of
the
information
in
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting.
A
So,
as
you
can
see,
all
council,
member
and
staff
are
participating
virtually
by
the
way.
We
will
continue
this
virtual
format
through
this
month
and
for
the
for
the
first
meeting
in
november
and
then
we'll
see
after
that,
what
what
we
do
to
help
our
audience
follow
along
I'll.
Try
to
remember
to
state
each
section
of
the
agenda
aloud.
A
A
855-925-2801
and
entering
the
code
9688,
we
are
also
broadcasting
live
on
the
city's
youtube
channel
charter,
cable,
channel
193
and
on
a
t
u
versus
channel
99.
So
for
those
of
you
out
there
right
now
welcome
for
public
comment.
We
asked
callers
to
sign
up
in
advance
to
join
the
live
speaker
queue.
We
will
only
be
taking
live
comments
from
those
who
signed
up
prior
to
tonight's
meeting.
Those
callers
have
been
provided
instructions
on
how
to
participate.
Each
caller
is
allotted
up
to
three
minutes
to
speak
for
each
agenda
item.
A
We
will
hear
live
comments
for
up
to
one
hour
for
each
agenda
item
a
reminder
to
callers.
You
will
first
hear
staff
inform
council
that
you
are
the
next
to
speak.
Then
you
will
hear
an
automated
message,
letting
you
know
you
are
unmuted
and
live
in
the
meeting.
You
may
begin
speaking
after
the
automated
message
to
best
ensure
staff
can
support
you
in
case
of
technical
difficulties.
We
ask
that
you
join
the
queue
no
later
than
the
beginning
of
the
agenda
item
before
the
agenda
item
on
which
you
have
signed
up
to
speak.
A
A
I
would
also
like
to
remind
everyone
who
participates
in
tonight's
council
meeting
to
follow
council
rules
of
decorum.
They
include
a
few
I'll
just
highlight
a
few
items.
Speakers
are
only
allowed
to
speak
one
time
during
the
public
comment
period
for
each
agenda
item
and
a
person
may
speak
only
if
they
have
signed
up
to
speak,
as
I
mentioned,
in
accordance
with
the
city's
procedures
and
no
speaker
substitutions
are
allowed
and
again
remember
the
three
minute
limit
for
speakers.
A
I
will
now
go
through
and
introduce
the
council
members
who
are
participating
virtually
and
council
members,
as
usual,
remember
to
mute
yourself
until
it
is
your
turn
to
speak,
and
I
will
begin
by
calling
on
the
vice
mayor.
Vice
mayor
whistler
good
evening,
councilman
haynes.
B
C
A
Maggie
okay,
we're
gonna
begin
with
the
pledge
of
allegiance.
So
if
you
would
please
rise
for
the
pledge
of
allegiance.
A
A
I
I
Some
much
needed
improvements
to
a
lot
of
our
bus,
stops
things
like
map
holders
and
signage
and
shelters
and
seating
and
trash
cans,
and
things
like
that.
So
thanks
very
much
to
the
staff
for
pursuing
it,
and
hopefully
this
will
make
our
system
better.
A
All
right,
council,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
adopt
the
consent
agenda.
We
have
no
one
signed
up
to
speak
on
the
consent
agenda,
so
I'm
going
to
move
right
into
the
required
roll
call
vote
that
is
required
for
virtual
meetings.
So
when
I
say
your
name
say
I
irony
to
approve
the
consent
agenda.
Vice
mayor
whistler,.
J
D
A
Right
and
myself,
I
okay,
thank
you.
The
consent
agenda
passes
next.
We
have
one
item
under
presentation
and
that
is
the
manager's
report
on
the
30
60
90
day
plan,
which
I
think
we've
had
some
discussion
about,
whether
or
not
needs
to
be
renamed
at
this
point,
but
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
the
city
manager,
deborah
campbell
for
this
report.
E
Good
evening
again
and
while
ashley
is
bringing
up
the
slide
presentation.
E
All
right,
as
you
all
know,
next
slide,
please.
E
As
you
know,
since
early
summer,
I've
been
providing
an
update
on
what
we
called
a
30
60
90
day.
Work
plan
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
responded
to
concerns
that
had
been
identified
by
black
asheville
demands,
a
coalition
of
residents
of
of
asheville
and
beyond,
to
look
at
racial
justice
and
economic
inclusion
issues.
E
We
identified
this
as
a
work
plan
when
we
would
start
working
on
these
requests
this
evening,
I'm
going
to
provide
a
presentation
on
all
of
those
initiatives
in
terms
of
providing
updates
and
then
spend
a
little
bit
more
time
on
three
items
and
one
of
those
items.
We
actually
have
a
guest
from
asheville
city
schools
and
a
person
representing
the
asheville
housing
authority
to
update
us
on
a
partnership
and
a
collaborative
that
we
have
with
them,
but
I'll
be
spending
time
on
the
reimagining
public
safety
questionnaire.
E
The
multiple
choice,
questions
we
didn't
have
that
data
at
the
september
22nd
meeting
so
I'll,
be
giving
a
little
bit
of
information
on
that
talk
about
the
new
project
page.
The
mayor
mentioned
that
we
needed
to
stop
calling
this
a
work
plan
now
at
least
a
30
60
90
day
work
plan
and
think
of
a
way
that
we
can
rebrand
some
of
these
initiatives
until
we
are
much
further
along
in
terms
of
completion.
Next
slide,
please.
E
So,
within
the
30-day
window
there
were
some
items
related
to
the
vance
monument.
As
you
know,
a
task
force
has
been
established.
They
meet
every
thursday
at
4
30..
E
They
have
identified
october
22nd
and
20
october,
the
29th
an
opportunity
for
a
live
comment
and
they
hope
to
make
a
recommendation
back
to
both
city
council
and
the
county
commission,
because
this
is
a
joint
task
force
on
november
the
19th.
E
The
next
item
is
work
with
the
community
on
renaming
of
streets,
we're
continuing
to
develop
the
next
steps
in
terms
of
a
community
engagement
opportunity.
Next
slide,
please,
within
the
60-day
horizon,
we
said
that
we
would
start
working
with
asheville
city
schools
to
address
in
buncombe
county
schools
to
address
the
opportunity
gap.
As
I
said,
a
presentation
will
be
made
later
and
they'll
give
you
more
detailed
information
about
our
initiatives.
E
The
fourth
item
was
to
initiate
conversations
to
defund
the
police
budget
by
50
percent,
some
initial
reallocation
and
policy
reforms
that
we
will
be
pursuing
were
made
during
our
recent
budget
decision
and
discussion.
At
the
september
22nd
meeting,
we
will
be
resuming
reimagining
public
safety
discussions
in
early
november
and
there
is
a
additional
information
that
will
be
brought
to
you,
hopefully
within
the
next
council
meeting
on
some
details
about
how
that
process
will
will
proceed
in
november
next
slide.
E
Please
also
within
that
60-day
window
initiate
conversations
with
the
district
attorney's
office
regarding
the
probation
decision
for
mr
hickman
city
attorney's
office
has
been
working
with
the
da's
office
with
regards
to
the
restorative
justice
process
that
was
identified
regarding
the
probation
process,
we
are
actually
meeting
tomorrow
to
provide
some
feedback
from
some
to
some
community
members
group
called
just
us
in
terms
of
what
we
learned
and
what
the
next
steps
will
be.
With
regards
to
that
decision.
E
E
You
see
the
address
that
is
given
also,
which
is
somewhat
related,
there's
a
resolution
regarding
the
sale
of
city
owned
property
received
as
part
of
a
renewal
approved
by
the
planning
and
economic
development
committee
at
their
meeting.
I
believe
yesterday
to
move
to
full
council
in
november,
better
understand
and
work
through
solutions
for
remaining
demands
related
to
creation
of
harm-free
zones.
E
In
an
all
civilian
oversight
committee,
the
legal
department
has
been
working
feverishly
in
terms
of
working
with
our
local
police-affiliated
organizations
on
the
civil
service
board,
working
with
local
ministers
and
a
number
of
other
entities
in
order
for
us
to
have
conversations.
E
Unfortunately,
this
will
have
to
go
to
the
state
for
final
approval,
but
that
work
is
progressing
also
as
it
relates
to
home
free
zones.
We
have
done
some
research,
at
least
the
legal
department
has
and-
and
our
understanding
right
now
is
that,
with
the
harm
free
zones,
these
are
initiatives
that
are
implemented
at
the
naval
neighborhood
level
without
a
lot
of
local
government
involvement.
E
Next
slide,
please
and
the
last
two
utilize
best
practices
to
recruit
people
of
color.
Our
human
resources
is
working
on
strategies
in
coordination
with
equity
and
inclusion
and
working
with
the
individual
departments
with
regards
to
recruitment
strategies,
and
I
I
know
that
this
initiative
talks
about
recruitment,
but
I
also
want
to
emphasize
that
we
are
prioritizing
retention
of
employees
as
well.
E
The
last
one
is
to
develop
a
race
and
gender
conscious
policy
in
response
to
the
disparity
study
as
part
of
city
contracting
and
procurement.
We
are
very
very
pleased
to
say
that
that
policy
was
approved
by
planning
and
economic
development
committee
yesterday
and
will
be
considered
by
full
council
on
october.
The
27th
next
slide,
please.
E
E
All
of
that
information
is
now
out
on
a
dashboard
and
our
at
our
website,
and
if
you
want
any
information
about
what
happened
in
terms
of
our
virtual
survey
discussions
that
information
is
out
there,
including
all
of
the
the
narrative
and
written
information
and
the
results
of
the
multiple
choice.
E
Questions
are
now
going
to
be
posted,
probably
at
the
end
of
this
meeting,
if
it
hasn't
already
been
posted,
the
multiple
choice
questions
were
intended
to
gain
an
understanding
of
how
respondents
feel
about
safety
in
our
community
and
get
an
idea
of
where
we
should
be
starting
in
terms
of
partnerships
and
defining
roles
of
the
asheville
police
department,
as
well
as
other
community
organizations,
and
particularly
efforts
related
to
responses
to
public
health
issues
and
through
the
demographic
questions,
because
there
were
a
number
of
them.
E
We
wanted
to
get
an
understanding
of
who
was
missing
from
the
conversation,
so
that
we
can
make
a
much
more
intentional
effort
in
our
next
round
of
conversations
to
involve
those
individuals
or
those
groups.
Next
slide,
please.
E
So
in
terms
of
kind
of
some
themes
which
we
gave
in
terms
of
some
of
the
the
virtual
meetings,
they
were
pretty
consistent
in
terms
of
the
multiple
choice,
questions
in
terms
of
violent
crime.
E
Most
responded
that
apd
has
an
important
role
in
public
safety,
especially
in
addressing
violent
crime,
but
in
terms
of
nuisance
calls
for
service
that
should
be
a
partnership
with
other
city
departments
in
our
community
partners
and
then
on
public
health
calls
for
service.
That
apd
should
make
a
concerted
effort
to
partner
in
coordination
with
other
public
health
and
social
service
providers.
E
We
are
making
some
progress
on
all
of
those
items,
particularly
the
nuisance
calls
you
may
recall
as
part
of
the
budget
process,
we
have
started
transferring
some
of
those
responsibilities
like
for
animal
control,
for
the
noise
ordinance
and
as
part
of
our
next
conversation
with
regards
to
reimagining
public
safety.
We'll
continue
to
delve
into
some
of
those
issues
in
terms
of
public
health,
calls
we're
working
with
the
county
working
with
other
public
health
agencies
within
buncombe
county
and
having
further
discussions
about.
E
How
do
we
create
those
teams
of
community
outreach
such
that
apd
doesn't
have
to
be
the
first
responder
all
the
time
to
these
types
of
of
calls
next
slide?
Please
and
the
transition
to
the
project
page.
As
again,
the
mayor
said
this
started
out
as
a
30
60
90
day
work
plan.
It
still
will
be
a
work
plan,
but
we
just
need
to
kind
of
rebrand
it.
E
This
project
page
is
available
now
again
at
our
website,
under
communication
and
public
engagement
with
that
30
60
90
day
plan
project
page
title
as
of
today,
but
we
we
hope
to
to
change
that
to
a
much
more
appropriate
name
in
in
the
future.
E
Next
slide,
please,
and
so
with
that
I
can
stop
and
take
any
questions.
Otherwise
we
can
transition
into
the
guests
that
we
have
shonda
sanford,
cadada
wynne
and
jean
bell
and
they're
going
to
present
some
information
about
some
collaborative
initiatives
that
we
have
underway
with
actual
city,
schools
and
asheville
housing
authority,
but
I'll
be
more
than
happy
to
respond
to
any
questions.
If
you
have
any
of
me-
and
I
know
I
ran
through
that
pretty
quickly-
I
apologize
for
taking
so
far.
I
I
don't
have
so
much
a
question
as
just
to
for
the
public
who
might
be
wanting
more
detail
on
the
the
multiple
choice
answers
just
to
endeavor.
You
may
have
said
this
and
I
missed
it,
but
there's
a
link
in
deborah's
presentation
which
is
linked
to
on
our
agenda
page
on
our
website
to
the
the
dashboard
and
that's
where
you'll
find
all
the
little
graph
some
circle
thingamabobs
about
that
that
give
more
detail
you
didn't
link
to
it,
but
it's
there
for
people
who
want
that
detail.
Thank
you.
Julie,.
E
E
K
Thank
you
all
for
having
us
today.
My
name
is
shonda
sanford
and
I
am
the
director
of
resident
services
for
the
housing
authority
city
of
asheville,
and
I
also
be
am
in
the
position
of
board
chair
for
asheville
city
schools.
So
I'm
coming
from
both
sides
with
me
today.
I
have
cadada
wind,
who
is
the
executive
director
of
student
support
services
for
asheville
city
schools
and
then
directly
after
canada,
and
I've
presentation
will
be
mr
dreamdale,
who
is
our
housing
authority
board
member
and
will.
L
Good
evening,
everyone
as
shonda
said
pod
stands
for
positive
opportunities,
develop
success
and
numerous
organizations
have
partnered
to
support
students
in
their
communities,
with
these
learning
pods
at
several
locations
in
the
asheville
community
and
our
guiding
principle
starts
with
equity,
with
a
positive
impact,
and
I
can
say
that
shonda
and
I
are
both
natives
of
asheville
and
alumni
of
asheville
city
schools,
and
this
is
the
first
time
we've
seen
equity
in
action
in
decades,
and
we
are
thrilled
and
excited
that
ms
campbell
has
allowed
us
to
partner
and
she's
led
us
on
this
on
this
initiative,
and
it's
been
a
great
experience.
L
Second,
is
student
service,
I
mean
student
center
and
I
just
feel
like
it's
about
time
that
we
focus
on
the
students
and
put
students
first
for
a
change,
and
this
is
giving
them
the
opportunity
to
dismantle
this
achievement.
This
opportunity
gap
that
they
that
a
lot
of
our
black
and
brown
children
make
up
in
asheville
city
school
system
and
in
the
city
of
asheville,
and
we
do
that
with
rev
revolutionary
love
and
that's
just
a
new
way
to
look
at
things
systematically.
L
It
hasn't
been
working
for
us
and
numerous
numerous
years,
the
way
that
it
has
been
done
and
with
miss
campbell
and
shonda,
and
I
have
decided
that
it's
time
for
a
change
and
with
that
change,
we
do.
We
have
revolutionary
love
and
just
gonna
continue
to
work
for
and
serve
our
students
and
families
in
asheville
and,
lastly,
is
to
change
the
narrative.
I
mean
we
hear
this
often,
but
do
we
really
change
the
narrative
and
I
feel
like
the
pods
have
been
open?
L
I
believe
this
is
our
fifth
week
and
we've
seen
some
dynamic
change
in
our
students,
attitudes
and
our
leaders,
confidence,
and
we
just
no
longer
want
our
black
and
brown
students
to
and
families
to
make
up
this
opportunity
gap.
That's
in
the
city
of
asheville
and
this
achievement
gap
within
asheville
city
schools.
L
So
current,
so
we
have
a,
I
was
just
getting
ready
to
say.
Currently
we
have
a
few
sites
open
and
I
think
shonda's
going
to
talk
more
about
that.
K
So
we
do,
we
have
11
sites
and
within
those
elect
within
those
11
sites,
they're
made
up
of
actual
pods.
Typically,
there
are
no
more
than
10
students
in
a
pod
and
right
now
we're
I'm
serving
over
200
students
in
these
pods.
K
What
that
looks
like
for
the
students
and
the
staff
every
day
they
come
in,
and
we
have
community
members
as
well
as
asheville
city
school
staff
who
push
into
these
pods
and
support
the
students
with
their
remote
learning,
just
to
ensure
that
they're
engaged
when
they're
not
doing
their
remote
learning
they're,
providing
enrichment
activities
and
extracurricular
activity.
L
K
And
since
most
of
these
pods
a
lot
of
the
pods,
I
should
say
we're
they're
at
our
community
centers,
but
they're,
also
in
some
of
our
housing
sites.
So
what
that
looks
like
for
the
children
is
you'll
see
that
these
pods
are
mostly
brown
children,
I
would
say
95
for
brown
children
and
for
our
children
in
public
housing.
K
K
Yes,
eventually
they
will
to
have
after
school
and
just
to
give
you
an
idea
of
what
that
means
for
our
students
in
the
housing
authority
communities,
the
average
annual
household
income
for
our
families
in
public
housing
is
six
thousand
four
hundred
and
fifty
six
dollars.
So,
if
you're
only
bringing
home
six
thousand
dollars
a
year.
K
M
N
N
M
K
This
is
just
some
of
the
pictures
of
our
students
hard
at
work
in
our
pod.
We
have
what
most
people
know
is
miss
earl's,
pod,
okay,
community
center,
which
is
ytf,
I
mean
beautiful
hand.
We
have
students
at
stevens
lee
center
here
at
center,
and
also
at
the
western
carolina
rescue
mission,
where
we
have
our
athletic
pod
for
some
of
our
young
men
at
asheville,
high
school.
I
K
O
You
know
shawna,
I
have
a
a
dear
friend
who
is
a
community
person
who
helped
set
one
of
the
pods,
and
she
was
telling
me-
and
this
is
of
course
anecdotal-
that
some
of
the
children
she
had
worked
with
before,
because
she's
also
a
substitute
teacher.
She
was
saying
that
their
grades
are
actually
better
now
in
the
pods
than
they
were
when
they
were
in
school.
K
So
I
don't
have
the
data
to
support
whether
that
is
true
or
not,
but
what
I
can
tell
you
is
the
overall
quality
is
better
for
our
kids
and
just
to
see
them
they're
excited
about
coming
to
the
pods.
Every
day
their
attendance
has
been
consulted.
K
We
have
children
actually
showing
up
at
pods
at
7
30
in
the
morning
who
don't
realize
you
have
to
actually
sign
up
to
be
in
the
pod,
and
this
is
not
their
parents
dropping
them
off,
but
because
they're
housed
in
the
communities
where
the
kids
live,
they're
actually
walking
to
the
pods
and
wanting
to
sign
up
to
be
in
the
pod,
so
just
to
see
them
excited
about
coming
to
school
or
what
they
consider
school
to
the
pods
every
day
has
been
awesome
and
then
just
to
well
for
all
of
the
children
who
are
in
pods.
K
This
is
the
first
time
ever
actually
in
classrooms
with
children
who
look
like
them.
Typically,
there
may
be
one
or
two
brown
students
or
black
students
in
a
classroom,
but
here
they
get
to
actually
go
to
school,
with
kids
that
look
like
them
and
they're
in
front
of
people,
community
members
and
staff
from
their
communities
that
look
like
them.
K
So
it's
been
not
just
empowering
and
great
to
see
for
the
kids,
but
it's
been
great
to
see
our
staff
who
are
participating
in
the
pod,
who
are
also
mostly
black
and
brown
working
with
our
students
to
see
how
they've
rose
to
the
occasion
and
how
they've
been
empowered
and
they
feel
great,
and
they
hold
the
kids
to
high
expectations.
K
P
My
question:
is
there
a
long-term
vision
because,
as
we're
trying
to
address
the
opportunity
gap,
we
know
that
an
alternative
classroom
setting
might
be
the
best
resolution
so.
B
P
Everything
that
you
just
stated
about
the
composition
of
the
classrooms
and
the
the
identity
of
some
of
the
teachers
and
this
community
hands-on
approach.
Is
there
a
long-term
vision.
K
I
don't
think
right
now:
it's
just
a
conversation
about
the
long-term
vision,
but
my
conversation
with
dr
freeman,
who
is
the
superintendent
of
asheville
city
schools,
he's
loving
the
pods
and
he
actually
does
want
to
expand
it.
K
We
know
that
it
can't
go
on
the
way
it
is
in
terms
for
school,
possibly,
but
it's
going
to
extend,
hopefully
with
after
school
programming
summer
programs,
spring
breaks
is
going
to
extend
in
that
capacity,
and
I
know
we
talk
a
lot
about
our
students
needing
black
and
brown
people
in
front
of
them
and
teaching
them
in
the
schools.
But
we
have
to
remember
that
they
also
need
relatable
black
and
brown
people.
So
that's
been.
K
A
K
Definitely
have
a
waiting
list,
so
we
have
over
400
students
in
asheville
city
schools
alone,
so
we
definitely
don't
have
the
capacity
to
serve
every
student.
The
wait
list
still
has
about
200
students
waiting
for
a
space
in
the
pods
space
is
not
necessarily
our
barrier.
Our
largest
barrier
has
been
staffing
because
the
teachers
are
actually
in
the
building
performing
the
remote
learning.
K
Dr
freeman
has
been
gracious
enough
to
allow
some
of
the
instructional
assistants
to
come
out
and
work
in
the
pods
and
then
also
with
the
community
members,
but
because
of
the
way
the
remote
learning
is
set
up.
Some
of
our
students,
especially
our
elementary
students,
need
a
lot
of
one-on-one
attention.
Therefore,
we're
just
kind
of.
L
And
again,
the
recent
space
is
not
an
issue
is
because
of
miss
campbell.
She
has
offered
a
lot
of
space
and
opportunity
for
the
pods
to
grow
and,
like
councilwoman
shanika
said
our
hoping
is
that
we
can
debunk
that
summer
loss
by
continuing
the
pods
program
and
after
school
program,
but
if
we
could
have
the
staff
to
support
that
to
keep
the
momentum
and
sustainability.
D
I
want
to
jump
in
and
just
say
I
commend
these
efforts
and
support
it,
and
hopefully
that
we
can
use
this
opportunity
as
a
springboard
to
something
else
in
addressing
closing
the
opportunity
gap
for
our
students
just
to
see
the
excitement
that
you've
mentioned
of
students
taking
the
initiative
on
their
own
to
show
up
at
a
pod,
even
if
they're,
not
without
realizing
that,
to
show
the
excitement
of
wanting
to
come
to
school
and
and
be
a
part
of
something
that's
going
to
better
their
futures
is,
is
awesome,
so
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
use
this
opportunity
as
a
springboard
to
hopefully
gather
data,
to
figure
out
how
we
can
how
we
can
utilize
these
efforts
somehow
down
the
road
to
help
close
that
gap.
D
So
this
is
great
and
keep
up
the
good
work.
Thank
y'all.
H
Q
H
Wanted
to
thank
debra
for
being
so
creative
about
this.
This
has
really
been
more
of
her
initiative.
I
mean
you
know:
we've.
We
as
council
have
certainly
said
that
we
want
to
do
all
we
can
to
work
on
the
opportunity
gap,
but
this
has
been
deborah
being
proactive
in
the
community
and
offering
up
these
resources
in
unusual
times.
So,
thank
you
very
much.
H
E
You
know
you
all
have
embarrassed
me
to
know
ian,
but
I
would
also
like
to
to
to
recognize
roderick
simmons,
who
is
our
park
and
rec
director,
who
has
really
done
a
yeoman's
job
in
terms
of
coordinating
and
making
sure
that
our
facilities
were
ready
to
receive
these
students.
E
And
we
just
appreciate
the
the
collaboration
actually
the
opportunity
to
serve
and
that's
what
our
facilities
allowed
us
to
do
to
be
able
to
to
serve
this
community
in
its
greatest
time
of
need
and
so
kudos
to
you
all
as
well
council
members
for
allowing
me
to
be
able
to
offer
those
facilities.
So
thank
you
very
much.
K
Okay,
so
next
we're
just
going
to
give
a
brief
overview
doc
going
to
talk
about
the
internet,
access
that
we
have
with
active
city
schools
and
the
housing
authority
and
our
residents.
K
B
K
K
B
Okay,
so
I'll
start,
I'm
involved
with
two
groups
at
this
time.
One
group
of
volunteers
and
our
mission
and
gwen
will
remember
this
vividly.
Our
mission
is
to
get
internet
access
to
all
of
our
kids
and
we're
making
progress.
David
nash
and
I've
been
working
together
and
he
put
an
rfp
out
last
week
and
the
only
bid
we
had
was
from
sky
runner,
and
the
procurement
policy
requires
us
to
go
back
out
and
he's
doing
that
immediately
to
try
to
get
another
bid.
B
But
what
we're
afraid
of
is
that
if
we
try
to
identify
some
access
to
each
child
and
have
a
access
with
the
child,
if
the
child
leaves
we
lose
access.
If
somebody
else
moves
in,
we
lose
access,
so
we
think
that
it's
affordable
for
each
household
to
have
access
not
only
for
the
young
kids,
but
also
for
the
elderly.
That
need
access
for
medical
reasons
and
for
just
for
a
little
bit
of
information.
B
Madison
county
has
already
taken
this
journey
and
their
population
has
access,
so
we're
collaborating
with
the
housing
authority.
The
school
system
chosen
and
several
other
groups
we're
raising
money
because
after
we
get
the
infrastructure
in
the
next
challenge
is
to
have
the
monthly
bill
addressed,
and
we
think
with
the
cost,
which
is
about
eight
dollars
per
household,
that
we
can
raise
enough
money,
at
least
for
the
first
year,
to
pay
for
all
residents
to
be
able
to
have
access.
B
In
my
judgment,
they
were
taking
buses
to
certain
areas,
so
they'd
have
a
hot
spot,
and
I
I
just
don't
believe
in
today's
in
this
century,
with
all
the
technology
in
this
world
that
we
need
to
have
people
that
can't
communicate
with
our
school
systems,
communicate
with
doctors
just
communicate
period.
B
So
the
city's
been
great
with
us
and
you
all
should
pat
yourself
on
the
back.
If
you
have
a
chance
to
visit
the
pods,
this
is
what
collaboration
is.
This
is
what
addressing
community
needs
is
all
about,
and
shandan
and
kadada
have
taken
the
lead
and
have
just
been
remarkable
with
this.
So,
but
I
want
to
thank
you,
council
city
manager
and
the
city
manager's
staff,
for
all
the
hard
work
and
making
this
a
successful
program.
You
just
got
to
go
out
and
visit
it.
B
H
Mr
bill,
can
you,
since
there
are
thousands
of
people
listening
to
this
tonight?
Can
you
tell
the
community
how
they
can
participate
in
this
by
making
a
contribution,
and
then
maybe
deborah?
We
could
get
this
added
to
our
agenda
and
added
to
the
the
website.
Is
there
a
way
for
the
community
to
help
with
this
investment.
B
E
We
we
will,
we
will
work
with
our
finance
department
and
and
gwen,
we'll
we'll
see
what
we
what
we
can
do.
I
also
wanted
to
thank
council
as
part
of
your
budget.
E
You
may
recall
that
you
put
up
the
first
fifty
thousand
dollars-
maybe
I
won't
say
the
first,
but
I
I
will
say
that
you
added
fifty
thousand
to
this
initiative
as
part
of
your
budget
on
september,
the
22nd.
So
it's
a
it's
a
really
good
good
start.
We
we
think.
K
So,
in
flipping
my
hat,
I
can,
I
can
say
thank
you,
because
you
were
the
first,
so
we
appreciate
you
being
the
first
to
contribute
to
the
endeavor
and
when
you
first
learned
about
it,
we
were
just
looking
at
the
south
side
community
to
start
this
project.
In
now
we're
actually
looking
at
all
of
our
housing
developments.
K
I
think
totally,
mr
bell
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
it's
going
to
be
about
250
000
for
all
of
our
family
developments
to
have
the
free
internet
access
and
then
we're
looking
at
some
ongoing
cost
of
about
six
thousand
dollars
a
month,
so
everyone
can
have
free
access.
K
One
way
that
they
can
contribute.
Though,
when
to
answer
your
question
is
we
can
set
something
up
with
the
actual
city
school
foundation?
If
that's
a
way,
I
can
certainly
have
them
to
set
up
a
fund
that
they
can
use
and
send
it
to
the
foundation
for
the
wi-fi
access
for
our
housing
authority
residents
and
just
to
give
you
some
numbers.
We'll
of
course
have
to
do
this
in
phases.
K
What
we're
hoping
is
in
the
first
phase,
we're
going
to
target
all
of
our
family
units
where
there
are
school-age
children
and
those
are
hillcrest,
pisgah
view
diva
view
and
klondike.
So
there's
a
1086
units
in
those
properties
and
that's
about
2300
resident
total
just
in
those
properties.
H
Alone,
just
keep
us
in
the
loop
shonda
and
I
I'm
sure
the
city
would
be
interested
in.
You
know
making
sure
we
get
the
message
out
and
maybe
we
could
do
a
a
press
release
and
just
to
you
know,
to
celebrate
our
partnership
with
this
group,
but
also
to
encourage
the
community
to
get
involved.
K
Okay,
thank
you.
Our
rfp
process
ends
on
monday,
so
after
then,
we
should
know
more
about
how
we're
going
to
proceed
with
starting
the
implementation
process.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
all
of
your
support.
K
Thank
you
deborah
for
being
a
part
of
bringing
equity
to
our
families
in
the
housing
authority
and
I'll
just
mimic
what
kadada
said
like,
but
this
is
one
of
the
first
times
as
a
native
that
you
actually
see
the
equity
work
being
put
into
action
because
we
all
go
to
equity
meeting
after
equity
meeting
after
another
equity
meeting,
and
we
don't
usually
see
people
of
color
in
the
community,
don't
usually
see
or
feel
any
impact
from
all
the
meetings
that
are
going
on.
K
A
You
know
just
to
echo
that
I
mean
just
so
folks
who
might
be
watching
are
aware.
There
was
a
there
was
and
still
is,
a
regional
effort
to
bring
wi-fi
throughout
asheville,
buncombe,
county
and
frankly,
into
haywood
county
henderson
county.
You
know
my
husband
is
a
school
teacher
in
buncombe,
county
and
reports.
You
know
there
are
kids
there
that
are
having
just
basic
wi-fi
access
issues
for
for
getting
their
school
work
done
that
don't
live
in
public
housing.
A
I
mean
this
is
a
wide
spread
problem
and
I
I
just
I
want
to
complement
this
team
here
of
going
ahead
and
just
moving
forward,
because
the
regional
effort
is
still
ongoing,
but
obviously
it's
slow
and
this
pandemic
just
overtook
us,
and
so
something
had
to
be
has
to
be
done
immediately.
So
I'm
really
glad
the
pods
are
available.
A
I
wish
that
we
could
figure
out
how
to
serve
the
200
or
so
kids
that
are
on
the
waiting
list
who
need
access
as
well,
but
anyway,
you
know
just
know
that
there
is
a
comprehensive
effort
out
there,
but
we
have
really.
This
is
an
emergency
right
here
right
now,
so
that's
great
and
I'm
glad
you
guys
stepped
up
and
and
are
working
on
this,
and
you
know
we'll
try
to
put
our
heads
together
on
helping
advertise
around
the
funding
issue
and
figuring
that
out
and
esther.
B
Sorry,
I
want
to
say
before
we
before
I
leave
the
city.
I.T
people
have
met
with
our
group
three
times
now
twice,
so
the
city's
involved,
the
county's
involved
and,
as
the
mayor
just
said,
this
is
a
regional
state
issue,
but
we
just
need
for
you
all
to
continue
your
support
so
that
we
can
be
kind
of
first
locally
to
get
all
this
done
so
for
all
of
our
residents.
I
And,
and
for
people
who
might
be
wondering
you
know,
why
doesn't
the
city
just
provide
internet
service
and
create
that
option
for
people
and
pay
for
that?
The
answer
is
that
it
is
illegal
under
north
carolina
law,
thanks
to
the
north
carolina
legislature,
for
municipalities,
to
create
utilities
and
provide
internet
service
like
water
and
sewer,
which
is
really
what
this,
which
is
really
the
system
that
we
need.
B
E
And
so
council,
thank
you
again
for
allowing
us
this
this
amount
of
time
on
the
on
the
work
plan.
I
thought
this
piece.
In
fact
they
asked
if
they
could
come
and
make
the
presentation
and,
and
I'm
so
glad
that
you
allowed
them
the
time.
So
thank
you
very.
A
Much
okay
so
have
we
gotten
to
and-
and
thank
you
very
much
guests-
this
is
special.
We
had
guests
during
a
presentation,
we're
really
getting
advanced
level
here
these
days.
So
all
right
is.
Is
there
anything
further
under
this
presentation
item
miss
campbell.
A
A
So
do
I
have
a
motion
to
continue
the
public
hearing
to
november
10th
2020
to
amend
the
us
department
of
housing
and
irving
development
five-year
consolidated
action
plan
in
order
to
assess
affordable
housing
and
community
development
needs
and
marketing
conditions,
and
to
make
data
driven
place,
making
and
investment
decisions
so
moved?
Okay,
I
have
a
question.
Do
I
have
a
second
second
okay
to
approve
the
motion?
I'll
need
to
do
a
roll
call
vote.
Vice
mayor,
whistler,
hi,
councilman,
haynes,.
B
R
A
And
myself,
I
next
is
public
hearing
item
b,
a
public
hearing
to
consider
an
amendment
to
a
previously
approved
conditional
zoning
approval
for
property
located
at
236,
charlotte
street
and
336
hillside
street,
to
modify
the
site
plan
to
reflect
the
right-of-way
closure
of
lennox
court
and
to
make
changes
to
the
site
and
building
footprint
at
the
hildes
house.
Infant
care
facility
and
city
planner.
Shannon
tuck
is
here
to
present
this
item.
S
If
we
could
go
to
the
next
slide,
please
so
just
to
orient
everybody
to
the
subject
property.
As
the
mayor
indicated,
this
is
two
parcels
located
at
336
charlotte
street.
Excuse
me
236
charlotte
street
and
336
hillside
street,
and
this
is
the
property
that
supports
the
asheville
jcc,
the
jccc.
You
may
also
be
familiar
with
also
owns
property,
that
is,
to
the
south
off
the
page.
That's
the
community
pool,
and
that
is
not
included
in
the
2017
conditional
zoning.
S
So
it's
not
included
in
this
request
either,
but
the
two
properties,
while
they
are
separate
individual
parcels,
they
do
operate
collectively
as
part
of
one
facility.
Next
slide,
you
can
see
from
the
aerial
imagery
that
the
main
campus
facility
is
located
to
the
east
on
the
the
larger
of
the
two
parcels,
and
you
can
probably
tell
from
that
imagery
that
it's
an
institutional
or
a
non-residential
use
with
some
associated
parking
across
murdoch
street
to
the
west
is
a
smaller
parcel.
S
S
So
to
summarize
this
amendment,
the
jcc
master
plan
came
before
council
in
2017
and
it
was
a
renovation
expansion
plan
and
that
plan
was
adopted.
But
subsequent
to
that,
there
are
two
changes
to
that
approved
master
plan
that
the
petitioners
would
like
the
city
council
to
consider.
S
The
first
has
to
do
with
an
access
and
right-of-way
closure
that
I
will
show
you
more
detail
of
in
just
a
moment,
but
that
is
for
the
main
property,
the
larger
parcel
on
the
corner
of
charlotte
and
hillside
street,
and
then
also
the
in
2017.
The
jcc
had
no
plans
to
do
anything
with
hildy's
house
no
expansion
or
renovation,
even
though
the
larger
facility
was
being
considered
for
that.
So
the
b1
conditions
associated
with
the
ordinance
describe
hildy's
houses.
S
So
if
you
circled
the
parking
lot-
and
there
was
no
parking,
you
could
actually
exit
out
onto
lenox
court,
the
2017
master
plan
had
a
a
slightly
reconfigured
parking
lot
design
and
but
it
still
maintained
that
cross
access
between
the
hillside
and
lennox
court
during
construction.
However,
the
that
cross
access
was
closed
and
ultimately
it
was
decided
that
that
better
suited
the
jcc's
needs
and
perhaps
the
community's
needs
and
the
jcc
applied
for
a
right-of-way
closure
in
2019
that
this
council
approved.
S
So
this
change
is
really
just
to
ensure
that
the
master
plan
matches
the
conditions
on
the
ground,
so
this
closure
is
is
complete.
There
is
no
longer
cross-access
from
hillside
onto
linux.
Court
next
slide,
please
so
that,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
hilda's
house
in
2017
there
was
no
plans
for
expansion
or
renovation.
S
In
addition
to
the
improvements
to
the
building,
the
jccc
is
also
proposing
some
relatively
minor
site
improvements
that
include
capitalizing
on
an
existing
driveway
on
hillside
street.
That
would
allow,
as
the
conditions
are
today,
that
driveway
just
sort
of
kind
of
empties
into
a
informal
gravel
parking
spot
in
the
back.
S
The
jcc
would
like
to
improve
that
to
allow
for
at
least
a
couple
parking
spaces
and
also
possibly
some
additional
stacking
space
so
that
it
could
help
possibly
relieve
a
little
bit
of
the
congestion
that
occurs
on
hillside
street,
when
parents
try
to
stop
to
drop
off
and
pick
up
their
children
during
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
meeting.
However,
there
was
a
little
concern
that,
as
this
proposal
would
include
an
exit,
a
new
exit,
the
onto
murdoch
avenue,
so
the
the
existing
there's
an
existing
driveway
on
hillside.
S
So
the
petitioner
agreed
to
a
restriction
or
a
b1
condition
that
would
limit
any
egress
onto
murdoch
avenue
as
a
rate
for
a
right
turn.
Only,
which
would
is
probably
is
the
safer
of
the
two
maneuvers
next
slide
so
associated
with
these
site
plan.
Changes
are
some
necessary
amendments
to
the
b1
conditions,
first,
to
condition
number
three,
which
relates
to
the
access
and
the
parking
lot
configuration
for
the
main
campus
next
slide
and
then
to
condition
number
15,
which
addresses
the
improvements
and
expansion
to
hildy
hildy's
house
and
the
site
plan
improvements
as
well.
S
S
Q
Hi,
I
am
ashley
lasher.
Can
you
see
and
or
hear
me
great?
I
am
the
executive
director
of
the
asheville
jcc
and
we
have
a
brief
presentation
to
share
with
you
why
this
project
is
so
important
and
so
critical
to
our
ability
to
provide
care
at
hilda's
house
next
slide.
Please.
Q
I
want
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
context
about
the
jcc
as
a
as
a
pillar
on
the
north
end
of
the
community.
We
have
been
here
on
this
same
spot.
For
80
years,
the
jcc
was
founded
in
1940
when
a
group
of
jewish
families
bought
an
old
house
on
charlotte
street
you'll,
see
here
with
a
bunch
of
happy
kids
out
front
on
the
steps
of.
Q
We
know
the
atrocities
that
jewish
people
were
facing
in
europe
in
the
1940s,
but
many
people
do
not
realize
that
anti-semitism
existed
in
our
own
community
here
in
asheville,
on
both
an
interpersonal
and
structural
level,
and
so
these
families
bought
this
house
and
founded
north
carolina's
first
jewish
community
center.
Q
In
order
to
have
a
safe
place
to
gather
socially
here
in
our
community,
the
pool
camp
and
preschool
were
added
in
the
50s.
In
1994,
the
old
house
was
torn
down
and
we
built
a
new
facility
and
then
between
2017
and
2018,
we
were
able
to
renovate
and
expand
that
facility
to
meet
our
community.
Q
Center's
emerging
needs
next
slide,
so
we
are
requesting
from
city
council
this
evening
regarding
an
amendment
to
a
previously
approved
conditional
zoning
ordinance
that
will
enable
the
jcc
to
renovate
hilda's
house
hilda's
house,
as
shannon
mentioned,
is
part
of
shalom
children's
center.
An
early
childhood
education
program
that
serves
children
aged
six
weeks
through
pre-k
at
hilda's
house,
specifically
just
infants
and
toddlers.
Q
Q
Q
Q
People
who
participate
in
these
programs
form
lasting
relationships
that
begin
in
children's
first
2000
days
of
life,
and
the
program
also
allows
the
jcc
to
build
lifelong
community.
We
say
that
we
actually
grow
our
own
lifeguards
here
at
the
j
we
start
with
babies
at
hilda's
house
who
then
transition
to
shalom.
Q
Q
Q
So
now
I
want
to
welcome
some
pretty
incredible
women
from
our
design
team
to
present
as
well.
Suzanne
godsey
and
wendy
ledgerton
from
legend
architecture
and
sight,
work,
studios.
T
Good
evening
mayor
members
of
council,
I'm
suzanne
godsey
with
site
work
studios
and
mrs
tuck
did
her
usual
exceptional
and
thorough
job
of
describing
pretty
much
the
existing
conditions
and
the
site
plan,
so
I'll
just
quickly
run
through
my
two
slides.
T
This
is
an
existing
aerial
and
it
is
very,
very
similar
to
what
you
see
today,
with
the
exception
of
the
tan
roofed
shed,
that
is
in
this
aerial
photo,
has
been
taken
off
the
site
just
to
highlight
the
one-way
parking
on
hillside
street.
That
goes
to
a
gravel
parking
lot
at
the
back
of
the
house
and
just
identifying
it
on
the
corner
of
hillside
and
murdock.
T
So
this
is
our
proposed
site
plan
and
we
really
took
the
time
to
analyze
the
site
and
look
to
where
we
could
make
some
improvements
to
both
the
neighborhood
and
to
our
site.
So
our
site
is
now
fully
handicapped,
accessible,
we've
got
handicapped
parking,
we've
got
handicap
accessibility
from
the
parking
into
the
existing
daycare
and
also
into
the
play
area,
which
is,
if
you've
been
to
the
site
or
been
around.
T
We
heard
in
our
neighborhood
meetings
and
also
through
city
planning
staff
that
they'd
like
us
to
explore
a
way
to
get
some
of
our
traffic
off
of
hillside
street
for
drop
off
being
such
a
young
population,
the
children
need
to
be
taken
out
of
their
car
seats
and
walked
into
the
house.
T
So
we're
happy
to
report
that,
with
this
circulation
pattern
that
enters
on
hillside
exits
on
to
murdoch,
we're
able
to
get
nine
stacking
spaces,
so
nine
queuing
cars
that
can
park,
drop
the
children
off
and
get
back
in
their
car
and
go
to
work
or
points
beyond.
We've
also
brought
the
site
to
compliance
where
we
can,
with
some
street
trees.
We've
got
some
improvements
with
some
privacy,
fencing
and
some
other
picket
fencing,
as
well
as
retaining
a
large
portion
of
the
existing
trees
that
are
on
site.
U
Hi
everyone
good
evening,
I'm
wendy
linderton
with
ledgerton
architecture,
and
it
has
been
a
true
honor
to
work
with
the
work
studios
and
the
asheville
jewish
community
center
on
the
renovations,
in
addition
to
hilda's
house.
U
This
project
is
near
and
dear
to
my
heart:
I'm
a
neighborhood
resident
and
live
within
one
mile
of
the
project
site
and
I'm
also
a
mom
of
two
children
who
spent
their
first
two
years
of
life
going
to
hilda's
house.
It's
not
often
that
I
get
to
work
on
a
project
that
I
know
so
well
and
the
main
points,
as
everyone
has
already
said
tonight,
are
to
increase
accessibility,
safety
and
the
ability
of
the
hilda's
health
program
to
meet
the
daycare
licensing
requirements.
U
U
The
only
enclosed
conditioned
square
footage
that
we
are
adding
is
enclosing
the
existing
approximately
80
square
foot
area
under
the
existing
porch
on
the
southwest
corner
of
the
existing
house.
So
that's
the
only
in
dish,
interior
condition,
space
that
we
are
adding
the
rest
of
the
additions
include
an
exterior
ramp
that
will
connect
the
rear,
accessible
parking
to
the
outdoor
play
environment
and
up
to
the
front
door.
U
This
is
also
a
huge
improvement,
because,
right
now,
the
staff
and
infants
and
toddlers
are
required
to
go
down
several
stairs
to
get
to
the
play
yard
so
to
have
an
accessible
ramp
for
students
and
staff.
Members
who
may
require
wheelchair
or
assistance
is
a
big
improvement
and
additionally,
we're
going
to
improve
the
rear
exit
stairway,
which
is
not
co-compliant
right
now.
U
So
there
will
also
be
a
rear
stairway
that
that
will
be
easier
for
people
to
exit
safely
in
an
emergency,
and
we
really
did
try
to
take
into
account
all
the
feedback
from
neighborhood
staff
and
the
city
in
terms
of
the
new
traffic
pattern
through
the
site
and
as
the
jc's
motto
the
jccc's
motto
is
you
belong
here
that
that
was
really
the
goal
of
the
renovations
to
try
to
improve
pedestrian
and
vulnerable
street
user
safety
and
and
to
make
it
more
accessible
for
all
participants.
U
U
U
I'm
back,
I
didn't
go
through
my
slides,
so
if
you
could
go
back
two
slides
please,
this
is
the
schematic
floor
plan
showing
the
infant
area
in
the
blue,
the
toddler
area
and
the
yellow
and
the
red
staff
kitchen
and
accessible
restroom
in
red,
and
if
you
look
on
the
lower
right
hand,
corner
of
the
blue
infant
area,
that's
the
small
area
of
that
was
the
existing
porch
that
we're
enclosing
to
help
with
the
interior
licensing
requirements.
Next
slide.
A
U
Well,
this
is
the
last
rendering
it
shows
the
the
picture
of
the
completed
renovations
with
the
proposed
wood
fence,
it's
more
in
keeping
with
the
neighborhood
patterns
to
replace
the
existing
chain-link
fence
and
we're
happy
to
answer
any
questions
or
comments
that
you
may
have.
A
Staff
anything
further
before
we
open
the
public
hearing.
Okay,
we're
gonna.
We
are
technically
opening
the
public
hearing
like
we
always
do.
However,
tonight
we
don't
have
anyone
signed
up
to
speak
on
this
item,
so
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
and
close
the
public
hearing
and
then
per
our
covet
19
requirements
for
public
hearing
items.
We
are
going
to
need
a
motion
to
recess
this
item,
this
public
hearing
item
to
october
27
2020,
when
we
will
actually
get
to
vote
on
the
application
itself.
G
G
A
Councilwoman
mosley
aye,
councilwoman
smith,
aye,
alcomin,
young,
all
right
and
myself.
I
okay,
thank
you
all
for
your
presentation
this
evening
and
this
item
will
be
voted
on
at
the
next
meeting.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
All
right,
we're
gonna
move
on
to
public
hearings,
item
c
and
d.
We
will
work
to
vote
separately
on
them,
but
we're
going
to
hear
the
presentation
together.
A
S
Thank
you,
mayor
members
of
council,
so
yes,
this
will
be
two
birds
with
one
stone
both
of
the
amendments
that
are
before
you
are
the
result
of
a
recent
legislation
that
we
commonly
refer
to
as
160d.
So
to
begin
with,
for
those
of
you
who
are
not
aware,
what
is
160d
160d
refers
to
a
chapter
in
the
north
carolina
general
statutes
that
was
adopted
as
part
of
the
session
law
2019-111,
which
became
effective
this
last
summer.
S
S
So
not
all
of
160d
will
be
reflected
in
a
development
code,
but
where
it
does,
we
have
to
ensure
that
it's
consistent
and
not
contrary
to
those
laws.
There
are
also
other
changes
that
may
not
be
related
to
the
development
code
policies,
practices,
rules
procedure,
things
of
that
nature
and
those
corrections
will
also
be
brought
forward
as
needed
through
the
proper
channel
to
address
those
items.
S
So
staff
will
be
bringing
forward
a
series
of
amendments
to
modify
the
city's
development
ordinance
to
be
consistent
with
160d.
You've
got
the
first
two
on
your
agenda
this
evening,
but
there
will
be
more
to
come
and
the
two
that
are
on
this
evening's
agenda
are
updates
and
standards
related
to
historic
preservation
and
also
changes
to
enforcement
and
definitions
next
slide.
S
So
to
begin
the
first
amendment
that
addresses
historic
preservation-
I
refer
to
it
as
two
musks
and
a
may
they're
throughout
160d.
There
are
a
number
of
items
that
are:
must
these
are
things
that
we
have
to
do.
We
have
to
follow.
We
have
to
be
consistent
with,
but
occasionally
you
are
given
a
choice
you
may
choose
to
do
something:
that's
maybe
a
little
bit
different
or
you
could
kind
of
keep
doing
it.
S
The
way
you've
been
doing
it,
so
the
musts
related
to
historic
preservation
are
that
we
must
follow
a
quasi-judicial
proceeding,
which
I'm
happy
to
say
we
we
do.
We
always
have,
but
we've
made
some
clarifications,
just
to
make
sure
that
it's
very
clear
in
the
ordinance
and
that
our
definitions
and
such
are
consistent.
S
We
also
must
describe
preservation
requirements
as
standards
and
not
guidelines.
We
had
been
referring
to
these
as
guidelines,
and
this
is
essentially
a
word
swap
and
then
lastly,
we
may
choose
to
have
appeals
from
the
hrc
decision
moved
directly
to
superior
court,
rather
than
the
city's
board
of
adjustment
as
it
is
today.
S
So-
and
this
is
a
special
kind
of
appeal-
it's
in
the
nature
of
certiori,
which
applies
a
different
kind
of
judicial
standard-
that
our
lay
board
members
kind
of
struggle
with
understanding
and
applying
appropriately
and
in
my
18
years
with
the
city,
we've
only
had
two
appeals
of
the
hrc
to
the
board
of
adjustments.
So
it's
a
very
uncommon
thing
to
occur
anyway.
So
we
think
this
is
a
good
change.
S
Next
slide,
the
second
amendment:
that's
before
you
has
to
do
with
enforcement
and
definitions,
and
again
we
see
a
series
of
muslim
mays.
The
moss
as
it
relates
to
enforcement
primarily
refers
to
protecting
individuals,
property
rights
so
or
those
rights
of
property
owners.
So
you,
the
city
staff,
must
deliver
a
notice
of
violation
and
we
must
third
serve
them
in
one
of
several
ways.
We
must
notify
property
owners
in
addition
to
business
owners.
S
So
it's
things
like
that,
so
we
ensure
that
the
individuals
have
the
proper
opportunity
to
be
informed
and
the
proper
due
process
to
correct
any
violations.
The
mays
tend
to
relate
more
to
flexibility
in
how
we
perform
our
enforcement
responsibilities.
So
there's
a
number
of
changes
related
to
how
we
serve
people
or
how
we
notify
them.
S
It
gives
us
just
more
options
that
are
available
so
that
we
can
more
effectively
perform
those
responsibilities
while
still
ensuring
that
people's
rights
are
protected
and
then
for
the
definitions.
It's
it's
relatively
straightforward.
It's
changing
some
relatively
minor
changes
to
existing
definitions,
adding
a
few
new
ones
and
at
least
in
one
case,
replacing
an
old
one
with
a
new
one.
So
probably
no
no
more
explanation
needed
regarding
that.
So
that
concludes
my
summary
as
it
relates
to
these
two
amendments.
S
F
A
So
I'm
going
to
open
the
public
hearing
on
items
c
and
d
and
we
don't
have
anyone
signed
up
to
speak
on
either
of
these
items.
So
I'm
going
to
close
the
public
hearing
and
now
I
will
entertain
a
motion
to
recess
the
public
hearing
to
amend
the
unified
development
ordinance
articles,
two
three,
five,
eight
and
oh,
my
gosh.
This
these
are
roman
numerals.
What
was
it
14
did
I
do
that
right,
14.,
all
right!
That's
a
tough
one!
A
A
A
All
right,
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second
and
I
will
do
a
roll
call
vote.
Vice
mayor,
whistler.
G
G
A
What's
a
woman
mayfield
aye
councilwoman,
mosley,
aye,
councilwoman
smith,
aye
councilman,
young
hi
and
myself,
I
okay!
Next,
do
I
have
a
motion
in
a
second
to
recess
the
public
hearing
to
amend
the
unified
development,
ordinance
articles,
2,
12
and
18
in
order
to
bring
the
city's
development
code
into
alignment
with
recent
state
legislation
until
october
27
2020.
A
B
A
And
myself
I,
the
last
public
hearing
for
tonight,
needs
to
be
continued.
Do
I
have
a
motion
and
second
to
continue
the
public
hearing
to
october
27
2020
to
update
the
2020
2021
action
plan
to
include
one
the
allocation
of
a
hundred
and
fifty
four
thousand
seven
hundred
and
eleven
dollars
in
community
development,
broadca
block
grant
contingency
funds
and
the
reallocation
of
an
estimated
1.1
million
in
home
investment
partnership
program
funds
and
two
889
456
dollars
in
cdbg
cb
funds,
which
must
be
used
to
prevent,
prepare
for
or
respond
to
coronavirus
removed.
G
H
A
And
myself
I,
this
brings
us
to
the
unfinished
business
portion
of
our
agenda.
We
have
two
items
of
unfinished
business.
These
are
items
that,
under
the
covet
19
requirements
we
actually
heard
and
had
a
public
hearing
on
at
our
last
meeting.
So
now
we
vote
on
these
items
without
any
further
public
comment
this
evening.
A
A
G
C
A
Aye
councilwoman
smith,
hi,
councilman,
young
and
myself
I
on
the
next
item.
I
need
to
be
recused,
so
is
there
a
motion
to
recuse
me
from
the
vote
to
consider
an
amendment
to
a
previously
approved
conditional
zoning
for
property
located
at
cox,
ashland
federal
alley
for
changes
to
a
mixed-use
development,
zoned,
central
business
district
expansion,
conditional
zone.
A
Second,
okay:
I
guess
we
have
to
do
a
roll
call
vote.
Vice
mayor,
whistler,
aye,
councilman,
haynes,.
U
H
Okay,
may
I
get
a
motion
and
a
second
to
adopt
an
amendment
to
a
previously
approved
conditional
zoning
for
property
located
at
cox,
ashland
federal
alley
for
changes
to
a
mixed
use.
Development
zone,
central
business
district
expansion
conditional
zone
so
moved
make
it
a
second
second,
okay,
great.
H
G
A
Council
we
have
no
items
of
new
business
on
the
agenda,
but
we
do
have
a
few
people
signed
up
to
speak
under
public
comment.
Specifically,
we
have
five
people
who
have
signed
up
to
speak
under
informal
and
discussion
and
public
comment.
Our
staff
will
now
connect
live
calls
from
our
speaker
queue
for
informal
discussion
and
public
comment.
Again.
We
are
only
taking
callers
who
signed
up
in
advance
callers.
You
will
first
hear
staff
and
form
council
that
you
are
next
to
speak.
A
Then
you
will
hear
an
automated
message,
letting
you
know
you
are
unmuted
and
live
in
the
meeting.
You
may
begin
speaking
after
the
automated
message,
if
you
accidentally
drop
out
of
the
speaker,
queue
just
redial
the
number
and
meeting
code
press
star
3
to
rejoin
the
speaker
queue.
You
will
have
three
minutes
to
comment
and
at
the
end
of
the
three
minutes
you
will
hear
a
bell
and
staff
will
ask
you
to
wrap
up
your
comment
staff.
Do
we
have
folks
in
the
speaker,
queue.
V
Yeah
hi,
I
want
to
speak
to
several
things
tonight.
The
city
manager
released
the
data
from
the
reimagining
public
safety
survey
and,
in
case
folks
didn't
have
a
chance
to
drill
into
that
data.
They
got
input
from
3
231
white
people
and
221
black
people
about
whether
there
was
a
problem
with
the
way
black
people
are
policed
in
this
city.
So
I'm
not
sure
what
conclusion
we
can
draw
from
this
process,
except
that
it
utterly
failed
to
engage
the
one
demographic
that
it
absolutely
had
to
engage.
V
And
then,
finally,
I
want
to
address
the
public
comment
process,
as
I
did
last
month.
If
you
want
to
be
heard
tonight,
you
can't
just
tune
in
to
the
meeting
you
have
to
study
the
agenda
and
all
the
documents
in
advance.
You
have
to
figure
out
in
advance
what
the
city
is
likely
to
do
and
formulate
what
your
response
is
going
to
be,
and
you
have
to
do
all
of
this
29
hours
before
the
meeting
actually
starts.
Who
has
the
time
to
do
all
of
that?
V
Well,
obviously,
I
do-
and
I
suggest
you
that
that
is
directly
related
to
the
fact
that
I'm
a
white
man
with
enough
resources
to
have
that
kind
of
flexible
time
and
that's
just
wrong.
People
like
me,
should
not
be
the
only
voices
you're
hearing
from
tonight.
The
last
meeting
where
people
were
allowed
to
dial
in
to
make
public
comment
was
that
meeting
where
we
passed
reparations
that
meeting
there
were
dozens
of
people
hurt
on
every
issue
and
tonight
you're
going
to
hear
from
like
five
people
total
for
the
whole
meeting.
V
The
city
charter
declares
that
council
must
provide
for
giving
citizens
a
reasonable
opportunity
to
be
heard
in
its
meetings
requiring
people
to
register
to
speak
29
hours
in
advance
is
not
reasonable
and
it's
not
equitable
council
members
insisted
back
in
june
and
july.
They
were
thrilled
with
all
the
public
engagement,
but
then
they
immediately
changed
these
rules,
without
even
bothering
to
explain
why-
and
I
I
think
we
all
know
why.
V
But
I
urge
you
to
change
your
minds
change
the
rules
back,
allow
people
to
call
in
to
make
live
comments,
direct
the
city
manager
to
start
the
process
of
replacing
the
directory
of
equity.
Inclusion
admit
that
the
city
managers,
reimagining
public
safety
process,
didn't
engage
the
one
demographic,
the
black
community,
that
was
absolutely
necessary
to
engage
because
they're,
the
ones
that
aren't
safe
in
our
city
show
us
that
you're
serious
about
equity,
about
reparations
about
upholding
the
city
charter
that
you
all
took
an
oath
to
uphold.
Thank
you
very
much.
W
Hey:
it's
jonathan
wayne,
scott,
it's
nice
to
see
everybody!
It's
nice
to
meet
the
acquaintance
of
councilwoman
mosley!
Congratulations!
Thank
you!
Councilwoman
smith,
for
bringing
forth
her
nomination
and
thank
you.
Councilman.
V
V
W
I
just
wanted
to
touch
on
something
that
was
mentioned
by
our
city
manager
a
few
months
ago.
I
believe
she
was
answering
to
some
frustration
and
criticisms
and
reminding
people
that
she
was
sort
of
new
to
town
and
she'd
only
been
here
for
about
a
year
and
a
half,
and
I
can
empathize
with
the
manager
I've
been
here
for
22
years
and
I'm
still
bewildered
by
things
in
asheville.
So
the
learning
curve
is
going
to
flatten
soon
and
the
honeymoon
will
be
over
and
such.
W
One
of
the
things
that
encompasses
moving
to
a
new
place
as
deborah
campbell
did
and
our
city
attorney
and
our
new
police
chief,
is
to
register
to
vote
in
the
community,
and
that
has
been
done
by
every
one
of
those
people
that
I
just
mentioned,
and
I
believe
deborah
campbell
and
brad
branham
have
actually
cast
the
votes
in
our
our
community
and
that's
in
disappointing
contrast
to
our
outgoing
equity
and
inclusion
director,
kimberly
archie,
who,
after
three
years
of
serving
city
of
asheville,
never
registered
to
vote
in
our
community.
W
I
think
that
kimberly
archie's
absence
and
the
voter
rolls
is
statistically
insignificant.
However,
her
her
absence
is
very
symbolically
significant
and
it's
disappointing
that
there
was
not
that
level
of
engagement
in
our
community
by
our
department
of
equity
and
inclusion
director.
I.
B
W
That
was
a
glaring
error
in
a
mission
in
a
community
that
is
says
that
we
are
committed
to
rooting
out
systemic
racism
and
the
at-large
voting
system
is
a
throwback
to
jim
crow
oppression
of
minority
votes,
and
we
are
standing
alone
in
the
state
of
north
carolina
with
wilmington
north
carolina
being
the
only
city.
So.
X
Yes,
my
name
is
victoria
poole.
I
just
wanted
to
comment.
First
of
all,
I
wanted
to
say
the
first
caller.
I
totally
agree
with
what
he's
saying
everything
you
have
to
call
in
ahead
of
time
to
get
in
the
meeting,
and
I
really
like
it
better
the
way
it
was
where
you
could
just
yell.
X
That
number
put
a
code
in,
and
you
know
you
open
the
speak
so
if
they
can
fix
that,
that
would
be
good
because
it's
really
got
a
lot
of
people
not
being
able
to
call
in
or
don't
have
the
time.
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
talk
about
was
the
reparation
about
the
property.
X
I
know
this
ma,
I'm
talking
about
reparation
now,
because
some
of
the
property
that
we're
looking
at
for
is
the
urban
renewal
and
maybe
being
a
part
of
reparation,
the
property
that
I
was
looking
at
over
on
curve
street
in
the
eastham
valley
area,
a
w.l
boss,
an
88
year
old
former
slave
was
interviewed
in
his
home
at
63
curve
street.
J
A
Okay,
council.
That
concludes
the
printed
agenda
for
the
evening.
Our
next
council
meeting
maggie
remind
me,
is
october
27th.
I
believe.
A
I
Is
about
the
survey,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
seeing
this
right
in
the
in
the
race
ethnic
identity
pie
chart
it.
It
looks
to
me
like
people
of
color
were
20
23
of
the
respondents
and
the
the
raw
numbers
were
thousand
two
hundred
and
twenty
five,
not
two,
two
hundred
and
whatever.
I
can't
remember
what
david
said
exactly,
but
so
white
responded
for
sixty
percent
and
black
respondents
were
twenty.
Three
percent
am,
I
is
anybody
else
looking
at
that?
Am
I
looking
at
that
correctly
or
deborah?
E
What
I,
what
I
do
know
is
that
the
number
of
respondents
was
significantly
different
for
for
black
in
the
questionnaire
that
actually
filled
out
the
demographics.
The
majority,
a
lot
of
the
people
did
not
fill
out
the
demographic
section
of
the
of
of
the
survey,
but
we,
I
will
definitely
confirm
that
and
email
you
all.
Okay,
sorry.
I
E
I
E
Job
and
that's
exactly
why
we
wanted
to
do
the
survey
and
ask
the
demographic
information
so
that
we
can
have
the
outreach
for
our
next
phase
of
conversation
and-
and
I
would
like
to
say
also,
though,
that
we
did
have
a
significant
number
of
blacks
who
participated
in
the
virtual
conversation,
so
it
was
the
conversation
versus
sort
of
filling
out
a
survey.
Okay,
I
got
it.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
well
that
I
mean
that
is
a
problem.
You
pointed
out,
if
folks
don't
fill
out
the
demographics,
which
I
understand
is
more
and
more
the
case
that
that
folks
don't
prefer
to
fill
out
the
demographics,
which
is
absolutely
they're
right.
It's
just
a
little
hard
to
track
when
you're.
E
A
I
did
I
did
want
to
mention.
We
have
gotten
a
lot
of
emails
about
the
crossroads
project
and
I'm
forgetting
what
it's
called
now.
I
think
it
was
called
the
crossroads
project.
It's
called
something
something
different
and
that
you
know
that
is
going
to
be
heard
by
the
county
board
of
adjustment,
I'm
not
sure
when,
but
it
may
be
this
this
week
and
I
think
our
city
attorney
can
speak
to
that
just
briefly
in
terms
of
what
role,
if
any
of
the
city
plays
in
that
process,.
F
Yes,
thank
you
mayor.
The
city,
like
several
other
property
owners
in
the
area,
actually
owns
some
property
nearby
in
the
existing
harmony
creek
greenway.
F
Therefore,
we
have
been
following
very
closely
the
development,
as
well
as
collaborating
with
the
the
developers
attorney
the
attorney
representing
some
of
the
property
owners,
as
well
as
the
friends
of
the
homie
creek
greenway,
in
order
to
best
determine
if
any
of
those
impacts
are
significant
to
the
city's
property.
Those
discussions
are
ongoing
and
we're
going
to
continue
to
engage
in
that
process
with
them.
The
city
is
currently
at
a
staff
level,
reviewing
several
engineering
models,
which
we
expect
to
have
some
results
on
just
within
the
next
potentially
24
hours.
A
Okay
thanks
and
then
the
one
other
item
deborah,
and
I
don't
I
don't
mean
to
put
you
on
the
spot
right
here,
but
the
the
one
of
the
public
commenters
commented
on
the
issue
of
filling
the
position
of
the
director
of
equity
and
inclusion,
and
we've
talked
a
little
bit
about
this
before.
E
E
Our
next
steps
is
right.
Now
we
have
an
interim
person
who
is
serving
as
support
in
a
kind
of
a
directive,
role
he's
playing
two
two
roles:
an
assistant
city
manager
and
director
of
the
the
department
supporting
the
three
employees
remaining
and
the
process
is
I'm
talking
both
with
this
existing
staff
with
the
assistant
city
manager,
that's
supporting
them
and
the
rest
of
the
organization
about
attributes,
and
we
are
using
a
lot
of
the
data.
Actually
that
was
collected
when
kimberly
was
hired
to
craft
and
draft
the
the
job
description.
E
So
we
think,
probably
in
the
next
two
to
three
weeks,
that
process
will
be
completed
and
we
will
start
the
ever
advertisement
process
recruiting.
I
should
say:
okay.
A
And
I
know
that
the
city
is
conducting
an
audit
of
the
equity
and
inclusion
department
that
should
be
finished
fairly
soon.
When
do
you
think
that
would
be
available
to
be
presented
to
council.
E
And
we
we've,
you
know,
we've
called
it
like
an
audit,
but
it's
really
not
an
audit.
It
is
essentially
some
information
about
accomplishments,
the
and
I'd
say
and
challenges
of
the
department
going
forward,
and
we
think
that
that
information
will
be
completed.
E
We
just
met
on
it
yesterday
won't
be
completed
until
early
november
is
because
the
person
that's
doing
it
is
actually
the
auditor
and
she's
in
the
middle
of
an
actual
financial
audit
of
our
organization.
In
addition
to
doing
this
work,
so
we
think
it'll
be
november.
Okay,.