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From YouTube: City Council Meeting – June 11, 2019
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June 11, 2019
Asheville City Council Meeting
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We
have
one
public
hearing,
it's
a
public
hearing
to
solicit
comments
for
the
community
development
block,
grant
and
home
investment
partnership
act,
funds,
annual
action
plan
for
fiscal
year,
2019-2020
and
paul
d'angelo
is
here
it's
like.
Where
are
you
well
he's
here
to
talk
to
us
about
this
item?.
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The
consolidated
plan
is
designed
to
assess
affordable
housing,
community
development
needs
and
to
make
data-driven
place-based
investment
decisions.
The
plan
serves
as
a
framework
for
our
community-wide
dialogue
to
identify
housing
and
community
development
priorities
and
is
updated
every
five
years.
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So
when
it
comes
to
housing,
looking
for
new
rental
housing
for
households
at
60,
ami
or
less
also
for
special
needs
housing
when
it
comes
to
economic
development,
we're
talking
creating
sustainable
jobs
for
low-income
persons,
job
training
and
placement,
and
for
public
services,
services
that
support,
affordable
housing
and
jobs
and
and
homelessness,
and
with
the
funding
sources,
we
use
the
cdbg
and
home
funding
for
cdbg.
It's
funding
that
helps
develop
and
uplift
communities
provide
to
provide
decent
housing
and
a
suitable
living
environment
and
by
expanding
economic
opportunities,
principally
for
low
to
moderate
income
persons.
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Home
funding
is
very
similar,
but
it
supports
a
variety
of
housing
activities
according
to
local
housing
needs
eligible
uses,
include
tenant-based,
rental
assistance,
housing,
rehab
assistance
to
home
buyers
and
construction
of
new
housing
again
for
our
hud
funding.
We
wanted
to
showcase
some
of
our
partners
this
year.
That
came
out
of
the
awards
process
for
our
hud
funding.
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We've
rehabbed
22
existing
units
when
it
comes
to
economic
development,
it's
created
or
retained
161
jobs,
assisted
196
businesses
and
also
prevented
250
individuals
from
homelessness,
and
we
always
think
it's
important
too,
to
talk
about
the
leveraging
of
the
dollars.
So
when
our
applications
come
in
for
cdbg
and
home
funding,
it
also
comes
in
with
the
other
funding
that
they're
bringing
in
throughout
the
community
boncombe
county,
other
nonprofits
foundation,
money,
bank
loans,
etc,
and
it
shows
how
this
funding
can
be
leveraged
so
for
home
funding.
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It's
a
16
to
1
leverage,
mostly
because
that's
a
lot
of
tax
credits
and
the
housing
finance
agency
and
the
money
they
get
there
and
for
our
cdbg
funding,
which
is
specifically
for
a
city
of
asheville.
It's
leveraged
at
a
greater
five
to
one
rate
and
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Fun
fact.
The
annual
plan
is
due
at
midnight
tonight
and.
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Okay,
so
for
the
public
hearing
when
just
raise
your
hand-
and
let
me
know
you
want
to
speak-
you'll
have
three
minutes:
watch
the
lights
on
the
lectern
green
means
go
orange
means
you're,
getting
close
to
the
end.
Red
means.
Stop
and
you'll
have
three
minutes.
Is
there
anyone
wishing
to
speak
on
this
item.
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So
when
it
comes
to
the
funding,
the
cdbg
tends
to
support
the
housing
to
uplift
with
decent
housing
with
living
environment,
but
we're
talking
actual
units
you're
looking
at
home
funding,
mostly
and
so
there's
some
possibilities
here.
Not
only
the
tax
credit
folks
might
use
some
of
the
vouchers
for
homeless
individuals,
but
also
homeward
bound
is
looking
with
their
rehabbing
11
units
on
short
michigan,
and
then
their
diversion
program
is
a
little
bit
more
about
tenant-based
rental
assistance.
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There
will
be
a
vote
and
an
opportunity
to
speak
on
a
motion
concerning
this
item:
a
strategic
partnership,
funds
grants
and
but
item
b,
which
is
the
the
budget
item
that
we
had
public
comment
on
that
last
meeting.
So
there's
no
public
comment
on
item
b,
but
then,
when
we
get
into
item
c
like
once
again,
public
comment
is
welcome
so
item
a.
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And
good
evening,
again,
paul
d'angelo,
with
community
economic
development,
talking
about
the
strategic
partnership
funds
and
here
recommending
asking
for
the
recommendation
for
approval
and
adoption
of
our
2019
2020
strategic
partnership
fund
grant.
As
you
know,
the
spf
funds
strategic
partnership
funds
are
funded
in
part
by
the
city
through
taxpayers.
These
programs
support
underserved
populations
and
provide
resources
through
an
equity-based
community
development
initiative
and
with
priority
given
to
applications
that
further
asheville
city
council's
vision,
2036,
including
things
here
like
achievement,
gaps
addressing
disparities,
direct
services
for
homeless.
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Excuse
me,
housing
and
employment,
economic
mobility,
food
security
and
small
business
support.
This
year
we
received
31
applications
for
spf
funding
for
a
total
of
234
500..
We
actually
funded
27
of
those
applications
in
a
process.
A
few
months,
back
and
again,
the
total
record
recommended
funding
for
strategic
partnership
from
grants
and
capacity
building
set
aside
is
240
000.
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There
are
a
number
of
objectives
that
we
might
try
to
achieve,
but
I
just
want
to
sort
of
we're
going
to
talk
about
this
at
our
hcd
committee
meeting
next
week,
but
I
want
to
invite
all
of
the
groups
that
have
applied
in
the
past
and
and
have
received
these
funds
to.
Please
be
a
part
of
this
conversation.
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We
really
need
your
help
in
trying
to
make
this
process
less
competitive,
more
impactful,
and
there
are
lots
of
things
that
we
might
be
able
to
do
to
do
that,
and-
and
I
personally
would
like
this
to
be
a
the
kind
of
conversation
where
we're
solving
this
problem
together.
Instead
of
sort
of
us
saying
this
is
the
way
it's
gonna
be
so
just
sort
of
put
your
put
your
collaboration
hat
on
to
help
us
solve
this
problem
and.
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Hopefully,
we
will
get
adoption
of
the
budget,
it
has
been
a
long
process.
We
started
sometime
in
august
and
are
ending
up
in
june
with
what
I
hope
is
a
budget
that
addresses
the
priorities
that
you
all
identified
as
part
of
your
retreat,
and
there
are
a
couple
of
things,
though,
that
I
would
like
to
touch
on
if
I
could,
because
we
got
a
lot
of
responses
and
issues
raised
by
the
community
in
terms
of
of
other
things,
that
they
wish
that
we
had
the
funding
to
to
address
so
I'll
address
these
separately.
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The
first
one
is
the
urban
forester
and
the
position,
as
well
as
the
master
plan,
what
we
are
going
to
do
with
that
is
in
terms
of
funding.
We
are
suggesting
that
there
is
no
additional
funding
that
will
be
needed
at
this
time.
We
are
asking,
though,
a
interdepartmental
team
between
the
planning
department,
development
services,
department,
public
works
parks
and
recreation,
and
our
sustainability
group
to
come
together,
work
with
the
tree
commission
and
looking
at
the
regulatory
tools
that
we
have
as
it
relates
to
tree
preservation
and
conservation.
J
We
really
think
that
we
are
really
really
short-handed
from
a
regulatory
perspective
as
it
relates
to
regulating
tree
removal
and
tree
save
on
private
property.
So
over
the
next
several
months,
we're
going
to
be
working
with
the
tree
commission
and
trying
to
address
the
regulatory
issues,
and
then
we
will
see
if
there
are
needs
for
additional
staff
resources
right
now.
We
feel
that,
particularly
with
the
tools
that
we
have
now
that
we
have
adequate
staff
in
public
works,
as
well
as
in
development
services,
to
look
at
this
issue.
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There
is
sixty
thousand
dollars
proposed
in
the
budget
to
hire
a
consultant
to
help
us
actually
train
recruit,
build
the
capacity
of
minority
vendors.
Our
issue
is
not
having
enough
staff.
Our
issue
is
having
enough
vendors
and
that's
what
we
want
to
want
to
work
out
in
terms
of
of
outreach
and
again
building
capacity.
J
The
next
item
is
the
fully
funding
the
first
year
of
the
transit
master
plan.
I've
said
this
on
numerous
occasions
that
I
think
transit
is
so
integral
in
terms
of
a
service
that
is
needed
in
this
community,
and
we
obviously
need
to
do
what
we
can
to
expand
those
services.
But
what
I
would
like
to
do
is,
and
what
I
am
recommending
to
council
is.
I
would
like
to
do
what
was
proposed.
J
If
there
are
other
opportunities
to
expand
or
do
more,
we
will
do
more,
but
at
this
time
I
don't
know-
and
I
well,
I
feel
fairly
confident
that
we
don't
have
the
resources
from
a
staff
perspective
and
our
issue
isn't
just
money.
It
is
capacity
and
we're
not
there.
Yet
we
hope
to
develop
build
grow,
a
transit
program
in
our
community,
but
it
is
going
to
take
time
and
I've.
J
I've
said
this
a
number
of
times
to
council
is
that
my
philosophy
is
going
to
be
I'm
not
going
to
over
promise
and
under
deliver.
That's
what
I
do
not
want
to
do
particularly
related
to
this
program
and
the
population
that
we're
that
needs.
It
needs
this
service,
and
so
I'm
going
to
be
very
tactical,
very
strategic
and
very
very
intentional-
about
building
a
transit
program
for
our
community.
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We
really
weren't
in
a
position
to
commit
to
that,
but
now
that
everybody's
in
their
spot,
we
we
can
do
that
and
so
we're
gonna
do
that.
I
actually
think
that's
a
great
it's
a
great
next
step
to
strengthen
that
framework.
Tell
us
what
we
can
do,
what
we
can't
do,
sharpen
the
tools
that
we
have
and
get
more
tools
in
the
toolbox
and
that
will,
as
debra
said,
set
us
up
wealth
to
then
figure
out.
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You
know
I
would
just
like
to
thank
you
for
all
the
hard
work
you've
put
into
this
and
I
think
you've
brought
us
through
a
really
good
process
this
year
and
and
staff
working
on
this
diligently
and
paying
special
attention
to
those
particular
issues
that
really
bubble
to
the
surface.
So
you
know
I
appreciate.
I
know
it's
been
a
lot
of
intense
hard
work
and
it
feels
like
it
takes
about
a
year
to
do
it
so
we'll.
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Okay,
good
evening
again,
paul
d'angelo,
with
the
community
and
economic
development
department
here
tonight
to
discuss
the
revised
proposal
for
360
hilliard
avenue,
specifically
looking
for
support
of
the
revised
proposal
from
the
kessinger
development
group
for
the
development
of
a
mixed
income
community
at
the
city-owned
property
at
360,
hilliard
avenue,
so
just
to
orient
everybody
to
this
parcel.
It's
at
the
intersection
of
hilliard
and
klingman
next
to
aston
park,
and
this
where
the
park
maintenance
building
used
to
be
so
a
little
background.
In
may
of
2016.
F
The
city
issued
an
rfqp
for
the
development
of
affordable
housing
at
city,
owned
property
at
360,
hilliard
avenue.
The
city
did
receive
two
responses
from
tribute
companies
as
well
as
caster
development
group.
The
city
council
in
september
of
2016
approved
the
proposal
from
tribute
companies
and
in
january
of
2017
tribute
actually
brought
forward
a
revised
proposal,
but
in
march
of
that
year,
backed
out
to
to
cost
development
unknowns
and
lender
financing.
F
F
So
to
take
a
look
here.
The
developer
experience
with
the
kashinger
development
group
of
some
units
that
they
built
here
in
asheville,
as
well
as
arden
and
another
complex
in
richmond,
virginia
that
they're
somewhat
of
a
seasoned
developer
that
has
been
in
the
community
here
in
nashville
and
happy
that
they're
bringing
this
proposal
forward
today.
F
So
to
kind
of
walk
this
through
a
little
bit
based
on
the
previous
proposals
of
what
this
looked
like
in
june
of
2017
november
of
2018,
and
now
we're
here
in
may
of
2019
kind
of
going
along
with
the
difficulty
of
this
process
with
affordable
housing
working
with
for-profit
developers
and
utilizing
our
tools.
But
if
you
take
a
look
at
the
proposal
that
we
have
now
from
passengers,
it's
a
mixed-income
rental
community,
a
unit
count
of
a
total
of
86
units
with
34
of
those
being
affordable.
F
18
of
those
units
will
service
families
and
individuals,
making
60
of
the
area.
Median
income
and
16
of
those
units
will
service
individuals
and
families,
making
80
percent
of
the
area.
Meeting
income
we're
looking
at
an
affordability
term
of
approximately
50
years
city,
investment
of
1.4
of
the
housing
trust
fund
loan
560
000
in
a
luigi
award,
which
is
the
land
use
incentive
grant,
as
well
as
a
discounted
land
sale,
purchase
price
of
475
thousand
dollars
a
couple
additional
details.
F
The
developer
will
construct
public
parking
portion
of
the
greenway
and
the
greenway
trailhead,
so
this
kind
of
spells
it
out
outside
of
that
matrix
again.
Looking
at
the
proposal
of
the
86
with
the
34
units,
an
expanded
site,
the
land
price,
the
housing
trust
fund
loan,
the
lannister
incentive
grant,
as
well
as
the
public
parking
that
they'll
install
at
the
realtor
tennis
courts
and
as
well
as
the
work
of
the
trailhead
that
they'll
be
doing
for
the
branch
greenway
and,
if
approved,
kdg
casserole
development
group
is
ready
to
begin
construction.
F
This
fall
so
some
of
the
pros
in
this
deal
the
city
will
gain
34
new,
affordable
housing
units
under
80
percent
of
area
meeting
income.
When
you
take
a
look
at
some
of
the
income
levels,
that
will
be
that
will
be
renting
here
and
taking
a
look
at
it
from
an
individual
and
family
basis.
Incomes
could
range
from
27
900
for
a
single
person
to
42
500
for
a
family
of
two.
F
It
kind
of
strikes
the
city
manager
discussing
15
an
hour
and
where
that
annual
pay
comes
in
it
kind
of
fits
right
there,
as
well,
so
to
break
that
down
into
an
hourly
rate
when
you're
looking
the
actual
rental
rates
based
on
their
income.
You're
looking
at
approximate,
affordable
a
rental
rate
of
650
to
900
dollars
for
I'm
a
qualified,
individual
or
family
at
those
income
levels
and
again
for
another
pro
is
an
affordability
period
of
50
years.
Developer
is
ready
to
go.
F
We're
also
very
excited
the
fact
that
here's
an
example
of
where
we're
bringing
in
another
type
of
developer
a
for-profit
developer
who's.
Looking
at
our
tools
that
we
offer
like
housing,
trust
funnel
land
use
incentive.
Grant
looking
for
a
percentage
of
affordability
and
making
that
work
with
the
passenger
development
group,
city's
investment
per
affordable
unit
would
be
estimated
with
those
tools
there
at
seventy
one
thousand
dollars
per
unit.
F
Most
of
you
probably
remember
the
work
we
did
with
las
on
the
319
biltmore
site,
looking
at
the
subsidy
needed
for
a
sixty
to
eighty
percent
unit
that
usually
fell
between
sixteen
and
eighty
thousand
dollars.
That
kind
of
falls
right
in
line
at
seventy
one
thousand.
We
do
always
try
to
look
that
with
the
housing
trust
fund
being
paid
back.
F
They'll
improve
the
westernmost
area
with
parking
for
the
development,
and
there
are
public
benefit
improvements
in
this
proposal,
so
not
only
work
with
the
branch
greenway
trailhead,
but
also
doing
work
with
the
greenway
along
the
property
line
and
assisting
with
the
public
parking
behind
the
tennis
courts
to
help
develop
that
this
is
kind
of
a
timeline.
Looking
forward
or
where
we've
been
so,
we
did
go
to
housing,
community
development
on
may
28th,
here
at
city
council,
today,
design
review
in
july,
trc
in
august
property
acquisition
in
august
and
closing
in
august.
F
Hopefully
again
with
that
start
date
in
the
fall
to
begin
construction
and
again,
we
kind
of
took
a
look
at
back
at
some
numbers,
and
the
city
of
asheville
has
a
track
record
of
working
with
non-profit
mission-driven
and
tax
credit
developers
for
affordable
housing.
So,
looking
since
2
2015
of
units
that
have
actually
been
received,
a
certificate
of
occupancy
and
been
seod,
we've
done
a
lot
of
that
work
for
affordable
housing
with
emission-driven,
non-profit
and
tax
credit
developers,
developing
about
300
units
give
or
take
looking
back
at
that
history.
F
We
feel
this
a
very
good
proposal
and
are
very
excited
to
move
forward.
We
do
have
a
couple
thank
yous.
We
wanted
to
mention,
because
if
you
can
notice
by
the
timeline,
this
has
been
a
little
process
and
fun
fact.
I
used
to
work
at
tribute
since
I
have
a
lot
of
those
tonight
from
back
in
the
day,
but
deborah
kathy
and
sam
for
their
guidance
on
this
proposal.
F
The
community
development
team,
specifically
andrew
meyron,
who
worked
a
lot
with
his
expertise
and
a
relationship
with
the
passenger
group
working
with
a
partnership
and
with
real
estate
with
nikki
reed
hand
in
hand,
has
been
vital
and
then
at
the
kessingers
as
well
for
for
still
staying
at
the
table
after
a
few
years
and
are
grateful
to
working
with
us
and
our
team
through.
You
know
what
is
a
difficult
process,
but
very
happy
to
be
here
tonight
with
this
proposal.
L
C
F
A
A
L
A
M
We
had
this
project
come
through
housing
and
community
development,
and
I
am
I'm
not
going
to
be
supportive
of
this
project.
I
am
not
completely
confident
of
the
developers
ability
to
make
this
project
work
or
happen.
This
is
the
fourth
iteration
of
this
project.
This
is
the
third
under
this
developer
and
I
am
not
confident
selling
city
land
to
this
developer
at
this
point
in
time.
So
I
will
not
be
supporting
this
project.
M
There
are
some
other
aspects
of
the
project
throughout
the
different
iterations
that
I
thought
were
very
good
with
without
question.
I
don't
believe
that
this
is
a
bad
plan.
I
think
all
the
previous
plans
from
this
developer
were
also
good
plans,
but
I
do
not
have
confidence
in
this
developer
to
see
this
through,
so
I
will
not
be
supporting
this
project
tonight.
M
A
G
H
D
A
D
For
the
african-american
heritage,
commission,
the
boards
of
commissions
would
move
to
reappoint
aunt
antoinette
mosley,
that's
sec.
I
have
a
motion
in
a
second
all,
those
in
favor
any
opposed.
Okay
for
the
citizens,
police
advisory
commission,
the
boards
and
commissions
recommends
the
reappointment
of
shauna
mcdowell
and
the
appointment
of
gretchen
goudeites.
B
D
Opposed
for
the
civic
center
commission,
the
boards
and
commissions
recommends
that
the
reappointment
of
bill
jones,
all
those.
I
have
a
motion
in
a
second
all,
those
in
favor
all
right.
Any
opposed.
Okay
for
the
civil
service
board.
The
boards
and
commissions
recommends
using
the
approval
that
you
that
council
just
had
tonight
on
to
add
a
third
term
for
carol
goins
on
the
civil
service
board
and
to
reap
and
to
reappoint
carter
webb
for
his
sec.
For
a
second
term,
although
I
have
a
motion,
a
second
all,
those
in
favor
aye,
any
opposed.
D
B
D
I
have
a
motion
a
second
all,
those
in
favor
all
right
any
opposed
the
multimodal
transportation
commission.
We
would
request
that
these
appointments
be
re-advertised,
including
a
review
by
multimodal,
so
that
they
can
make
recommendations.
I
don't
need
a
motion
on
that:
the
neighborhood
advisory
committee.
D
A
A
A
I
Please
just
keep
this
community
support
in
mind
with
future
plans,
mayor
city,
council
and
city
manager.
Please
listen
to
the
concerned
citizens
in
our
community
calling
for
urgent
action
to
include
the
position
of
urban
forester
in
the
2019-2020
asheville
city
budget.
In
the
last
10
years
we
have
lost
about
10
percent
1600
acres
of
our
tree
canopy
and
asheville
city
limits.
This
is
an
unsustainable
loss.
We
simply
cannot
keep
losing
our
trees.
I
Our
beautiful
green
landscape
has
been
one
of
the
main
reasons
people
come
to
visit
asheville
and
why
the
people
who
live
here
choose
to
stay.
The
most
important
action
we
can
take
to
protect
our
vulnerable
trees
is
to
include
an
urban
forester
on
asheville
city
staff.
In
the
public
works
portion
of
our
2019-2020
budget,
we
have
allocated
funds
for
20
additional
paid
positions.
I
We
need
to
act
now
and
earmark
the
necessary
portion
of
those
funded
positions,
an
estimated
104
000
for
an
urban
forester,
including
salary
equipment
and
office
supplies.
Funds
could
also
be
pulled
from
revitalization
of
storm
drainage
infrastructure,
since
protecting
our
trees
will
help
mitigate
stormwater
runoff.
I
We
as
a
community
must
creatively
problem
solve,
manage
and
prioritize
the
protection
and
replacement
of
our
trees.
They
simply
cannot
protect
themselves
and
they
are
literally
disappearing.
We
are
asking
asheville
city,
council
and
city
manager,
deborah
campbell
to
please
take
urgent
action
and
include
the
position
of
urban
forester
in
the
2019-2020
budget.
I
Over
750
people
have
signed
our
petition
since
june
2nd
to
support,
including
an
urban
forester
on
city
staff.
An
urban
forester
would
manage
our
trees
in
ways
that
add
significant
value
to
our
urban
infrastructure
and
arborist
is
trained
in
the
cultivation
and
management
of
individual
trees.
These
are
two
very
different
jobs
and
skill
sets.
We
are
not
just
trying
to
save
our
trees.
I
We
are
saying
we
want
to
put
our
trees
to
work
because
they
are
simply
the
most
cost
effective
way
to
address
serious
issues
facing
our
city
like
storm,
water,
runoff,
air
pollution,
erosion
and
the
list
goes
on.
We
must
start
valuing
our
trees
as
allies
for
all
the
ways
they
help
us.
We
know
our
city's
growth
is
necessary
and
inevitable,
but
it
must
be
more
sensible
growth.
We
must
put
more
care
into
our
community,
we
are
creating
today
for
the
next
generation
of
asheville
citizens.
A
C
Happened
last
time
yeah,
I
just
we'll
make
this
brief.
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
the
city
of
asheville
for
allowing
the
asheville
half
marathon
and
10k
to
happen
this
weekend.
It
was
wonderful.
It
was
really
nice
that
we
were
able
to
put
pedestrians
in
front
of
you
know
cars
for
a
little
while
not
well
figuratively.
C
That
was
really
nice.
It
was.
It
was
phenomenal
to
see
our
beautiful
city
from
the
pace
of
a
runner
and
not
have
to
worry
about
getting
hit
by
a
car
when
we
were,
you
know,
going
down
the
street
and
kudos
to
the
apd
to
help
us
out
with
that.
That
was
phenomenal.
So
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
that
and
I
also
wanted
to
say
a
special
thanks
to
councilman
hayden
last
time
I
was
up
here.
I'd
asked
all
of
you
guys
to
to
be
bold
and
re-evaluate
this
tda
money.
C
A
A
O
O
14
years
ago,
2005
following
a
30-year
career,
the
new
city
manager
will
leave
the
pictures
all
around
your
office.
I
assume
they're
still
there
by
the
time
I
left
I'd,
had
the
pleasure
of
serving
under
every
city
manager
in
the
city's
history
except
two,
and
that
wasn't
because
I'm
as
old
as
people
think
I
am
it's
just
the
way
it
worked,
but
we
saw
some
fascinating
things
over
those
years.
O
The
red
ink
was
horrific.
You
can
just
imagine
over
time
and
slowly
starting
first.
I
believe,
if
my
memory
is
correct,
firefighters,
later
general
non-law
enforcement
and
non-firefighter
employees,
and
then
lastly,
asheville
police
officers
were
all
eventually
merged
into
the
local
government
employees
retirement
system.
It
was
probably
one
of
the
best
moves.
The
city
ever
invested
time,
money
and
effort
in
when
you
retire.
There
are
a
number
of
things
that
happen.
O
O
Now,
quite
honestly,
during
the
depression-
and
I
have
a
tendency
to
call
things
as
they
are:
it
wasn't
a
recession.
It
was
a
depression
we
suffered
through
for
the
last
eight
or
ten
years
and
it
is
largely
behind
us
now.
We,
including
myself,
didn't
expect
much
in
the
way
of
an
increase
the
investment
portfolio
of
those
funds,
tanked
miserably,
but
they
have
rebuilt.
O
A
year
ago,
former
chief
anna
reno
and
I
at
the
invitation
of
sibo,
went
and
spoke
to
a
breakfast
meeting
or
a
state
senator
who
shall
remain
nameless.
I'm
not
here
to
embarrass
people,
but
I'm
going
to
tell
the
truth
was
to
speak
and
we
wanted
to
address
our
concern
that
others
were
coming
to
us
with
about
pensions
and
low
benefits.
O
We
will
be
following
up
with
you
that
was
in
october
by
december,
after
multiple
phone
calls
and
emails
between
the
chief
and
I
and
that
person
and
this
staff
crickets
never
a
word.
So
I
started
to
dig
a
bit
deeper
and
what
I
found
is
that
state
association
was
a
good
bit
of
help.
One
of
those
four
representatives
for
local
government
retirees
is
a
former
county
employee,
mr
ed
sheery.
Some
of
you
may
remember
ed
retired,
as
director
of
the
buncombe
county
library
association,
our
library,
he
was
a
huge
help.
O
O
If
this
guy
is
telling
the
state
association,
what
I'm
told
he's
telling
them
it's
absurd
among
the
myths
we've
been
told
is
that
cities
and
counties
would
have
to
contribute
a
greater
share
of
their
payroll
to
afford
a
cost
of
living,
increase
and
they're
not
willing
to
well.
I
immediately
suspected
he
hadn't
taught
any
of
you
or
probably
anybody
else
in
the
state,
but
that
was
the
statement
come
to
find
out
barbara
whitehorn
and
I
want
to
thank
her
profusely
along
with
vice
mayor,
whistler
and
vijay,
for
returning
my
calls
recently.
O
O
You
have
been
seeing
annual
increases
to
your
budget
for
coal
or
for
contributions
to
lgrs
from
2015
and
forward
every
single
year,
including
one
on
this
year's
budget.
That's
a
full
one
and
1.4
greater
than
than
in
the
past.
The
truth
is
the
treasure
is
taking
your
money
and
money
from
cities
and
counties
all
over
the
state
and
we're
seeing
nothing,
but
that
was
one
excuse.
O
O
O
These
numbers
are
pathetic.
The
adding
insult
the
industry
injury,
the
the
legislature
continues
to
appropriate
periodic
colas
over
the
last
14
years
to
state
retirees
and
to
teachers
every
time
they
get
on
the
bus
and
go
to
raleigh.
Apparently
that's
our
problem.
We
don't
have
anybody
to
charter
or
bus
for
us
everybody's
getting
money,
but
us
now
here
was
the
last
insult
from
the
state
treasurer.
We
were
told
through
the
association
that
the
fund
balance
has
not
increased
enough
to
warn
to
raise
and
he
doesn't
see
one
until
it's
at
100
funding.
O
I
dare
say
it
is
a
mathematical
impossibility
for
a
pension
fund
to
ever
achieve
100
funding.
In
the
best
years
the
state
ever
saw
with
our
fund.
It
was
at
97
and
98.
When
I
worked
here
and
those
were
the
envy
of
every
state
in
the
country,
they
used
to
call
my
office
upstairs
and
say:
how
do
you
people
have
a
retirement
fund
that
robust
from
california?
In
those
places
we
got
down
into
the
80
percentile
range?
It
is
now
back
at
94.16
percent.
O
O
The
truth
is,
I
think,
what
what
the
problem
boils
down
to
is
abrogation.
The
textbook
definition
dictionary
defines
that
is
to
evade
a
responsibility
or
duty.
I
don't
think
the
city
of
asheville
evaded
the
responsibility
or
duty
when
it
folded
us
into
lgrs
the
councils
before
you
and
the
managers
before
you
thought
we
were
going
to
be
well
cared
for,
hasn't
happened.
The
legislature
abrogated
its
responsibility
to
a
state
treasurer
who
answers
to
nobody
and
I'll
point
out.
The
state
treasurer's
retirement
is
through
the
state
system.
O
He
doesn't
care
what
we
get
and
then
further
the
treasurer
dumps
on
on
the
league
and
the
county
association
of
managers
that
it's
a
circle
nobody's
doing
anything.
I
think
there
are
four
possibilities:
one,
the
state's
estimates
are
lgrs
retirees
annuitants
have
lost
about
13
percent
of
their
income
in
the
last
10
years
to
inflation.
O
The
white
paper
that
the
associate
or
that
the
our
association
came
up
with
shows
that
16
I
contend
it
is
considerably
more
around
25..
Perhaps
the
council
will
consider
giving
us
a
25
reduction
on
our
property
taxes
and
water
bills,
going
forward.
That's
an
option
and
the
last
two
and
I'll
be
quiet.
O
The
council
could
appropriate
some
money.
The
cost
of
one
bicycle
lane
would
probably
give
a
one-time
cost
of
living
adjustment,
not
calculating
it
as
part
of
a
base
benefit
to
the
people
that
protected
you
and
picked
up
the
dead
people
off
the
street
and
provided
first
aid
treatment
and
paved
your
streets
and
picked
up
your
trash
to
keep
us
all
from
dying
in
our
own
field.
That's
a
possibility!
O
Another
is
to
take
a
stand.
Pick
up
the
phone
mayor.
I
assure
you
if
you've
never
met
the
treasurer,
he
would
take
your
call.
Take
a
stand.
Tell
these
people
you're
tired
of
us
not
seeing
anything,
and
lastly,
I've
prepared
a
draft
resolution
that
maggie
has.
I
know
you
are
all
quite
capable
of
writing
resolutions.
I
wrote
a
few
hundred
in
my
career
and
we
have
prepared
one
or
I
have,
and
just
it's
a
template
for
your
consideration
with
that.
I
will
stop
and
ask
if
you
have
any
questions.
Thank.
D
A
A
This
year
being
our
first
year
in
this,
in
this
increase,
and
it's
and
as
john
mentioned,
apparently
the
decision
about
whether
or
not
to
do
a
cola
increase
rests
with
this
13-member
board
of
trustees,
lgers
board
of
trustees,
which
has
nine
appointments
by
the
governor
one
by
the
state
senate
and
one
by
the
house
of
representatives
and
the
state
treasurer
and
state
superintendent
who
serve
as
ex-officio
members.
I
guess
this:
that's
the
state
treasurer's
involvement,
so
we
did
get
some
information
about
it.
A
A
H
A
A
F
P
P
I'm
sorry
that
you
can
cut
me
off
then,
whenever
my
three
minutes
is
up
I'm
here
about
three
topics.
I
lived
in
asheville
from
2000
to
2003.
I
left
because
I
was
making
600
every
two
weeks
and
could
not
afford
to
live
here
fast
forward
to
2016
still
no
jobs
in
nashville.
I've
built
a
successful
business
in
another
state
and
I
travel
back
and
forth
to
work.
I
decided
I
wanted
to
escape
the
big
city
that
I
live
in,
which
is
1.5
million
people
in
my
county.
P
So
I
started
house
hunting
here
came
across
the
airbnb
ordinance.
So
when
I
was
up
here
house
hunting,
I
decided
to
stay
outside
the
city
limits
because
I
could
not
get
a
private
airbnb
within
the
city
limits.
The
airbnb
rules
appear
to
be
written
by
hotel
lobbyists,
which
brings
me
to
my
first
point.
The
airbnb
rules
that
you
guys
have
put
into
place
not
only
hurts
property
owners
but
hurts
workers.
P
At
my
other
home,
I
have
a
thousand
square
foot
guest
house
in
2018
I
made
over
thirty
thousand
dollars
in
rent
in
nine
months
of
renting
out
my
property.
On
top
of
the
extra
income,
the
guests
paid
vacationers
tax,
which
directly
went
to
the
jurisdiction
in
which
I
live.
Just
on
my
property
alone,
the
jurisdiction
collected
four
thousand
dollars
in
vacationers
tax,
which
is
thirteen
percent
of
my
pay
of
what
I
made
on
my
my
property.
P
Not
only
did
this
did
the
city
get
the
four
thousand,
but
the
economic
impact
to
local
restaurants,
car
rentals
airport,
grocery
et
cetera
next
topic
is
roads.
I
have
finally
purchased
my
home
on
sunset:
mountain
spent
over
a
million
dollars,
I've
been
there
two
years
and
the
roads
have
drastically
deteriorated.
Currently,
I
can
see
down
four
levels
of
payment
pavement
in
ten
different
potholes
in
front
of
my
home.
There
are
chunks
coming
out
of
the
street
that
are
bigger
than
my
fist,
and
this
street
is
touted
as
a
bike
friendly
path.
P
I
pay
nearly
ten
thousand
dollars
in
property
taxes.
I
should
have
safe
access
to
my
house,
and
currently
I
don't
people
swerve
around
these
potholes
into
oncoming
traffic
on
a
daily
basis.
I
complained
in
2018
and
was
told
I
would
be
on
the
paving
schedule
for
this
year,
but
now,
with
the
landslide
up
top
we're
being
told
that
we
don't
know
if
we're
still
going
to
be
paid,
which
brings
me
to
my
last
topic,
which
is
the
charlotte
street
road
diet.
P
If
there
is
money
to
be
blown
on
making
charlotte
street
worse
than
it
already
is,
then
why
isn't
there
money
to
fix
the
roads
for
the
people
who
live
here?
I
travel
charlotte
street
two
times
a
day
with
city
buses,
ghost
tours
and
lost
tourists
trying
to
get
to
grove
park
traffic
is
thick.
Charlotte
is
a
mate.
Charlotte
is
a
main
cut
through
for
north
asheville
to
the
south
slope,
including
myself,
shrinking
charlotte
street
would
be
an
absolute
disaster
not
only
for
north
asheville,
but
a
waste
of
money
for
the
city.
P
P
Making
it
one
lane
would
create
gridlock,
it
would,
it
would
also
keep
and
we
keep
allowing
new
buildings
and
neighborhoods
in
north
asheville,
which
means
more
cars,
I'm
a
runner,
I'm
a
biker,
but
I'm
also
a
driver
and
a
realist,
and
if
this
project
goes
through,
the
city
will
regret
the
decision.
For
years
you
cause
people
to
come
through
quiet,
neighborhoods
and
speed
when
they
are
upset
about
sitting
in
traffic.
P
I
know
this
because
it's
my
reality
when
I'm
back
home
in
florida,
which
is
why
I
opted
to
buy
a
second
home
out
of
the
rat
race
instead
of
heading
into
asheville,
to
eat
in
the
evenings.
I
will
be
heading
into
woodfin
or
somewhere
else,
and
I
think
that
you
need
to
put
the
residents
first
instead
of
the
tourists.
After
all,
the
residents
are
what
make
this
city
great.
Thank.
A
You
I,
mr
schultz,
I
did.
I
do
see
your
email
from
yesterday.
I
do
not
have
any
other
emails
from
you,
but
if
you
I
don't
know
if
they
got
lost
or
I
don't
either.
I
just
checked
as
well
so
yeah
I
have
one
from
yesterday,
but
january
of
this
year
I've
got
every
email
yeah
we
ours
don't
ever
get
deleted.
They
only
get
archived
so
okay,
that'd
be
great.
Thank
you.
Q
Wrote
these
out
tonight
my
name
is
matilda,
I'm
a
member
of
asheville
showing
up
for
racial
justice,
and
I'm
speaking
for
myself.
I
can't
help
but
think
that
had
we
had
elections
to
look
forward
to
this
year,
this
budget
vote
would
have
looked
much
different
as
a
committed
member
of
my
community.
I
will
fight
for
economic,
racial
and
environmental
justice,
and
this
budget
has
taught
me
that
many
of
us
have
yet
to
make
the
alliances
that
are
needed,
but
I
and
many
others,
I
think,
acknowledge
we
have
friends
in
this
fight.
Q
A
R
R
I
don't
want
to
see
the
light
of
our
democracy
in
north
carolina
fade
more
than
it
already
has,
and
even
if
we
think
that
we
can't
stand
up
to
the
state,
I'm
just
gonna
say
we
all
gotta
grow
up
here
on
this
issue
right,
we
just
gotta
tell
them
how
it
is.
I've
lived
here
for
20
years.
Typically,
asheville
does
not
back
down
just
because
raleigh
says
something.
A
S
S
When
we
had
a
black
representative
elected
to
council,
there
was
an
immediate
plan
put
into
play,
and
this
is
a
part
of
a
greater
strategy
in
north
carolina
and
across
the
nation.
As
you
may
know,
we
are
being
pounded,
left
and
right
in
the
sector
of
voting
rights
at
the
state
level
and
it
comes
down
to
race.
S
S
We've
seen
these
court
cases
in
wake
county
and
in
greensboro
pushed
back
and
the
fact
that
we're
still
sitting
here
twiddling
thumbs
in
silence,
not
answering
emails,
just
not
speaking
on
the
issue.
I
commend
the
council
council
members
who
have
taken
a
stance
on
this
issue,
but
the
public
needs
to
be
aware.
S
There
needs
to
be
communication,
there
needs
to
be
education
forums
and
a
public
dialogue
around
this
issue,
because
the
ethical
cost
of
simply
standing
by
and
allowing
this
to
push
over
has
far
reached
far-reaching
precedence,
not
just
for
asheville
but
for
the
entire
nation-
and
this
is
this
is
a
very,
very
serious
issue.
This
might
be
the
most
serious
issue
facing
this:
the
2020
upcoming
election,
and
this
is
really
the
integrity
of
our
entire
election
system.
S
The
crux
of
all
of
you
being
able
to
sit
in
your
seats
and
say
that
you're
legitimately
elected,
so
I
don't
think
we
need
to
go
into
specifics
about
cracking
and
stacking
and
av
av
bvap
the
black
votes
per
hour
in
asheville.
I
know
that
there
have
been
questions
about
the
percentages.
Is
it?
Can
this
be
a
racial
gerrymander?
If
it's
not
five
percent,
we
have
around
3.5
registered
african
americans
in
asheville,
regardless
of
all
of
these
technical
legal
issues.
S
You
all
need
to
take
a
stand
on
this.
The
public
needs
to
know
where
you're
at-
and
I
am
asking
you
and
on
behalf
of
my
organizations
to
fight
back,
and
you
know
in
saying
that
what
was
the
quote
is:
can
we
win
in
a
meaningful
way?
What
is
the
difference
between
a
charter
and
a
lawsuit?
People
don't
know
these
things,
and
we
need
you
to
to
give
that
information
speak
with
a
backbone
and
stand
firm
on
this
issue.
T
A
G
My
comment
is,
as
most
of
you
know,
I've
sat
through
many
many
budget
budget
votes
and
today
I
just
have
this
overwhelming
feeling
of
frankly
just
wanting
to
cry
and
because
we
have
been
working
on
transit
and-
and
I
think,
we've
we've
experienced
a
lot
of
losses.
We've
experienced
a
lot,
a
lot
of
wins,
but
we've
experienced
a
lot
of
losses
over
the
years,
but
today's
vote
on
the
budget
feels
like
a
loss
to
our
transit
riders
and
it
feels
it
hits
me
a
little
bit
harder.
G
G
And
I
I
just
think
that
I
I
hear
you
a
city
manager
when
you're
saying
that
you
know
we
don't
want
to
over
commit
and
under
deliver.
But
if
the
money
is
not
there,
there's
no
commitment
at
all,
and
I
just
feel
like
our
transit
riders
have
had
to
wait
so
many
times,
and
I
encourage
you
to
keep
asking
the
questions
of
like
what
are
we
waiting
for?
When
are
we
going
to
be
satisfied
that
we
have
the
capacity
to
follow
through
on
this
and
and
to
make
follow
through
on
your
commitments?
E
Hey
city
council,
I'm
tim
saffler
and
you
know
I
kind
of
echo
vicki's
concerns.
You
know
it's.
I
mean
ultimately
such
a
difficult
issue,
funding
operating
costs,
and
you
know
I'm
just
really
thankful
that
we
do
have
limited
sunday
service.
I
think
we're
only
the
we're
only
one
of
a
handful
of
small
cities
that
actually
offer
some
limited
service,
so
I
mean
it's
a
real
blessing
that
we
have
that.
But
of
course
you
know
if
we
had
an
unlimited
budget
and
like
I
don't
know,
everybody
could
just
be
here
and
stuff
like
that.
E
E
E
A
E
A
Just
informationally,
you
know,
the
council
did
at
one
time
pass
a
policy
that
all
of
our
contractors
would
have
to
pay
a
living
wage
to
their
employees
and
then
the
legislature
promptly
passed
legislation
saying
no
city
could
require
that
contractors
pay
a
living
wage
and
we're
still
subject
to
the
bidding
requirements
for
hiring
contractors.
So
we
we
struggle
with
this
issue.
E
A
U
Hi,
my
name
is
jonathan
wainscott,
and
I
would
like
to
thank
mr
kapoor
for
his
courage
this
week
in
taking
a
stance
in
the
approval
of
the
district
elections.
It's
a
very
unpopular
thing.
Obviously,
and
taking
his
stance
on
an
unpopular
issue,
is
you
know
a
dicey
game
in
a
game?
That's
all
about
approval,
and
I
thank
the
mayor
for
starting
to
clarify
the
realities
of
our
case.
U
Should
we
choose
to
sue
the
state
for
the
districts
that
they've
imposed
on
on
the
city,
the
weakness
of
the
case
and
your
colorful
language
that
you
used?
I
appreciate
that
and
I
appreciate
the
the
basically
the
middle
finger
that
the
three
of
you
keith
and
shanika
and
and
brian
gave
to
authority
from
personal
experience.
I
can
tell
you
that
doesn't
usually
work
out
very
well,
but
I
you
know
I.
I
appreciate
the
thought.
U
Looking
through
the
data,
as
mr
kapoor
has,
there
is
no
indication
whatsoever
that
racial
gerrymandering
has
occurred
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
that's
been
left
out.
In
the
conversation,
a
lot
of
things
have
been
left
out
in
the
conversation.
In
fact,
this
whole
conversation
was
left
out
of
the
conversation
about
districts
until
it
was
actually
a
law.
U
U
That
can't
be
said,
we
don't
have
an
electorate
whereby
white
people
will
not
vote
for
the
black
candidates.
Lest
you
would
be
not
you
wouldn't
be
here.
The
numbers
are
that
low
in
the
community
and
the
best
way
to
protect
that
dwindling
number
is
to
take
advantage
of
the
areas
of
town
that
have
a
higher
concentration
of
african-american
votes,
thereby
protecting
the
districts.
U
District
number
two
is
a
hundred
percent
in
2017,
more
african-american
than
the
city
at
large.
The
very
opposite
of
racial
gerrymandering
has
occurred
here,
and
I
very
much
appreciate
you
bringing
this
data
that
you've
put
out
there.
I've
also
compiled
the
data.
I've
sent
it
to
you
and
I've
sent
it
to
you.
I've
sent
it
to
the
mayor.
U
I
know
that
you're
bad
with
math,
but
I
can
send
it
to
you
as
well.
Gerrymandering
is
all
about
the
numbers.
It's
very
simple.
It's
very
simple:
math,
it's
even
julie,
math,
julie,
math,
the
concentration
levels
of
are
there
to
be
seen,
and
I
know
that
you
guys
were
griping
about
the
even-yeared
elections.
That's
a
ship
that
has
sailed,
and
once
again
that
was
not
something
that
the
legislature
imposed
on
us.
That
was
a
request
that
the
mayor
made
to
be
considered
as
a
part
of
this
amendment.
U
A
V
My
name
is
jan
howard,
cubaneck
and
I
came
to
seed
my
time
to
jonathan,
but
I
am
here
now
and
I
also
I'm
on
a
verge
of
tears,
and
I
don't
know
if
you
know
that
police
arrested
reid
thompson
on
the
sidewalk
today
I
just
reed
and
I
are
sort
of
the
refugees
of
a
previous
administration
that
really
messed
up
something
be
done.
I
live
day
in
and
day
out
in
a
similar
situation
when
perry,
alexander
and
charlie
worley
and
numbers
of
prominent
people
decided
to
take
my
driveway
so
day
in
and
day
out.
V
A
Okay,
just
as
an
impromptu
addition
here
at
the
end
of
our
council
meeting,
there
has
been
a
lot
of
talk
about
districts,
the
district
election
bill
bills,
actually
plural
and
we've.
We've
had
a
lot
of
public
outward
sort
of
discussion
about
it,
and
this
council
has
actually
been
briefed
on
it.
Many
many
times
at
our
request
in
closed
session
by
by
legal
counsel,
just
backing
up
on
this
for
people
to
recall
this
was
a
two-part
process.
A
A
I've
ever
heard
in
my
life
and
the
legislature
on
his
last
day
in
as
a
senator-
and
I
remember
it
was
the
last
day
of
the
session-
and
it
happened
on
a
friday
afternoon
and
it
took
about
three
hours
and
it
went
up
in
flames,
but
not
because
anybody
loved
asheville
it
was
actually
the
sort
of
a
house
senate
fight
really
and
then,
when
senator
edwards
became
the
senator
out
of
henderson
county,
also
representing
part
of
southern
buncombe
county.
He
picked
up
that
torch
and
ran
with
it.
A
I
I
personally
and
other
council
members
as
well.
I
have
met
with
senator
edwards
on
multiple
occasions.
I
have
asked
him.
I
asked
him
not
to
pass
this
bill.
I
went
down
to
raleigh,
others
have
been
down
to
raleigh
as
well.
I've
met
with
senator
edwards
up
here,
but,
despite
all
that
conversation,
he
still
introduced
the
bill.
The
bill
when
it
was
originally
introduced.
A
In
the
interim,
this
council
voted
to
put
a
referendum
on
the
ballot
asking
people
whether
or
not
they
wanted
districts,
because
we
needed
a
way
also
to
get
the
community's
voice
heard
in
this
conversation,
and
it
overwhelmingly
failed
the
community.
I
think
it
was
something
like
76
or
something.
A
very
high
number
did
not
did
not
want
districts,
so
we
waited
and
to
see
whether
or
not
it
was
at
that
point.
A
It
was
a
violation
of
the
u.s
constitution,
14th
amendment
equal
protection
clause.
Lawyers
have
been
a
little
hesitant
to
wrest
all
of
their
hopes
on
that
case,
because
it
wasn't
actually
defended.
The
state
did
not
make
an
appearance
in
the
case.
So
there's
a
little
bit
of
you
know,
question
about
whether
that
will
stand,
but
that
is
the
law
right
now.
So
the
legislature
took
took
took
out
that
prohibition,
if
you
will
so
we.
As
far
as
I
know,
we
are
the
first
local
government,
whether
it's
a
school
district
or
county
or
city,
mind
you.
A
A
A
I
don't
know
if
there's
anything
more
chicken
and
egg
than
this
situation,
because
you
know
it's
hard
to
know
what
will
happen
so
so
I've
tried
to
make
the
rounds
talk
to
council
and
see
what
what
we
want
to
do.
I
I
my
sense,
is
that
a
majority
of
council
and
vijay
has
put
out
his
opinion,
but
a
majority
of
council
would
like
to
move
forward
with
taking
action.
A
So
what
what
I
think
we'd
like
to
do
is
have
this
heard
in
the
governance
subcommittee.
Have
our
city
attorney
come
and
explain
the
the
options
we
have
and
then
and
let
the
public
hear
them
comment
on
them,
weigh
in
and
then
have
it
come
back
to
council
for
a
vote
to
direct
the
city
attorney
to
take
action.
At
that
point
we
can
choose
you've
heard
a
lot
about.
Should
there
be
a
lawsuit?
Should
there
be
a
charter
amendment?
Should
there
be
both?
Should
there
be?
A
Neither
I
mean
these
are
all
the
things
that
will
need
to
lay
on
the
table,
and
you
know
some
things
to
consider
in
this
conversation.
Are
you
know
what
what
can
you
address
through?
Which
means
so
we
have.
We
have
elections,
and
even
years
we
have,
the
form
of
our
election
has
been
changed
to
a
plurality
with
no
primary,
which
is
one
of
the
four
options
allowed
for
cities.
A
That
change
was
a
surprise
to
me
and
I
think
everybody
I
came
as
a
floor
amendment
by
former
representative
brawley
when
the
bill
was
being
debated
in
the
house.
I
you
know
I
I
don't
know
what
the
thinking
was
there.
Some
people
thought
it
was
a
mistake,
but
it
frankly
looked
pretty
deliberate
to
me,
but
you
know
the
those
are
the
some
of
these
things
can
be
managed
to
a
charter
amendment.
Some
of
these
things
could
also
maybe
be
dressed
in
a
lawsuit,
and
we
need
an
opportunity
to
put
it
all
out.
A
There
have
this
discussion
and
then
figure
out
what
what
the
best
way
is
to
proceed
and
and
somewhat
swiftly,
because
you
know,
while
I
think
there
is
not
an
opportunity
to
to
beat
the
clock
on
an
election
for
2019.
Nor
do
is
it
clear
to
me
that
there
is
a
way
to
change
that,
but
if
we
were
to
try
to
hopefully
restore
a
primary
in
the
election
process,
I
believe
the
filing
for
all
candidates
for
the
next
cycles
in
december.
A
So
that
would
be
you
know
pretty
much
a
drop
dead
deadline
there,
okay.
So
so,
unless
there's
any
objection
or
feel
free
to
make
a
comment
well,
I
would
recommend
that
we
send
this
to
governance
and
brad
will
prepare,
and
maybe
our
council
we've
had.
We
do
have
attorneys
that
specialize
in
election
law,
I
believe,
are
out
of
raleigh.
A
I
I
have
also
just
personally
when
we,
when
we
were
without
an
attorney.
I
personally
spent
quite
a
bit
of
time
on
the
phone
with
the
school
government
attorneys
in
at
chapel
hill,
who
specialize
in
election
law
to
kind
of
walk
through
what
our
options
are.
That
was
very
helpful
for
me,
but,
and
I
think
we
just
need
an
opportunity
for
people
to
hear
what
those
choices
are
women.
A
A
Committee
meet
governance,
meets
on
the
first
floor
of
this
building,
although
we
can
move
it
up
here.
I
guess
if
it
were
to
be
a
big
audience
and
it
meets
at
three
o'clock
on
tuesday
the
night,
which
would
normally
be
a
council
day,
but
that
is
our
our
summer
break
from
council
meeting
day.
But
it's
not
our
summer
break
from
subcommittee
meeting
day.