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B
We
all
council,
members
and
staff
are
participating
virtually
for
those
of
you
out
there.
Listening
with
us
today.
Welcome.
Thank
you
for
joining
to
help
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along
I'll,
be
stating
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agenda
item
aloud
as
we
progress.
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Each
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will
have
three
minutes
to
speak
as
a
general
reminder
to
everyone.
That's
with
us
today.
B
If
you
could
stay
on
mute
until
you
need
to
speak,
you
can
raise
your
hand
virtually
or
signal
me
like
this,
and
I
will
call
on
you
and
queue
up
questions
and
speakers.
So
I'm
going
to
go
through
a
roll
call.
Now,
if
you
can
go
ahead
and
announce
that
you're
here
and
present,
as
I
call
your
name
so
vice
maker,
my
mayor,
shanika
smith,.
B
Good
morning,
I
also
see
janice
ashley
with
the
law
end
of
the
city.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
good
morning.
Anybody
anybody
else.
I
missed
a
lot
of
little
blocks
on
the
screen.
Okay,
great,
thank
you
everybody
for
being
here.
So
we're
on
to
item
number
one
of
the
agenda,
which
is
the
approval
of
the
minute.
Did
everyone
get
a
chance
to
review
the
action
minutes?
Any
questions
concerned
coming.
B
B
There
are
series
of
documents
in
your
packet
and
online
for
those
who
are
listening
at
home
and
they
go
into
extensive
updates
about
many
programs,
projects,
funding
and
so
on,
and
I
know
I
have
a
few
questions
for
some
of
the
updates,
but
I'll
open
it
up
to
paul
to
maybe
introduce
anything.
You
would
like
to
bring
to
our
attention
and
then
to
fellow
councilwomen
for
their
questions
and
comments.
F
Sure,
good
morning,
everybody
paul
d'angelo
here
with
community
and
economic
development,
nice
to
see
everybody
nothing
too
heavy.
Here,
I'm
looking
forward
to
your
questions
from
the
council,
I
did
want
to
point
out
that
we
did
our
cdbg
training
at
the
end
of
september.
Community
development
block
grant
training
for
the
community
to
see
if
we
could
find
some
potential
new
partners,
we
did
make
it
mandatory
for
the
2122
subrecipients,
who
received
funding
and
also
mandatory
for
anyone
who
wanted
to
apply
for
the
22-23
funding.
F
Those
applications
will
open
in
mid-december,
similar
to
last
year.
We
got
about
60
folks
that
joined
us
from
across
the
community
for
different
individuals
and
agencies,
so
really
happy
with
that
outreach
to
try
to
continue
a
little
proactive
education
there
so
very
excited
about
that
turnout,
and
in
that
spirit
of
transparency
I
just
wanted
to
let
some
folks
know.
I
think
we
just
passed
it's
exciting
to
us,
but
about
400
people
on
the
community
development
listserv.
F
So
we've
really
made
a
push
for
our
community
development
email
list
to
be
able
to
send
out
updates
what
we're
working
on
opportunities
for
funding,
training,
etc.
We
have
we're
at
like
200
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago
we
just
passed
400,
but
that's
just
exciting
for
us,
but
a
way
to
say
please
sign
up
for
those
updates.
We
share
some
great
information
about
community
development,
funding,
potential
funding,
streams,
partnerships
etc.
So
it's
easy
to
find
on
our
website
and
those
are
just
two
quick
updates.
B
Thank
you
paul.
I
know
I
recently
started
sharing
that
listserv.
It's
a
google
form
I
stumbled
across
across
it
recently
and
I
started
sharing
it
everywhere.
So
I'm
glad
to
hear
there's
an
uptick.
I
know
folks,
when
I
share
those
updates
really
enjoy
being
able
to
read
through
it
all.
There's
a
lot
a
lot.
A
lot
of
information
if
you're
listening
at
home
and
you're
curious,
go
to
the
city's
website,
find
it
lots
of
information.
C
Oh
go
ahead.
Vice
mayor,
I
wanted
to
update
on
strategic
partnership
funds.
It
feels
like
we've
skipped
about
two
school
years
without
having
a
plan
to
address
the
opportunity
gap.
F
And
so
it's
a
great
question
so
right
now
I
think
we
talk
about
the
funding
in
those
updates
and
right
now
I
am
working
with
a
couple
team
members.
We've
made
it
clear,
I
think,
with
working
with
hcd,
that
we
want
those
funds
to
work
towards
closing
the
opportunity
gap.
I
think
minimum
grants
of
25
000.
We
want
to
rfp
that
request
for
proposal,
possibly
to
find
partners
who
can
help
us
run
that
program,
but
there's
also
been
discussions
with
some
other
things
happening
in
the
community
that
are
there.
F
Are
there
other
ways
to
utilize
this
fund
versus
just
the
traditional
rfp,
so
just
some
discussions
with
city
management
to
try
to
find
the
best
way
to
utilize.
This
funding
there's
some
folks
already
working
on
this.
We
watched
council
last
week
about
the
asheville
city
school,
grant
the
work
that
they're
doing
and
are
just
trying
to
talk
internally
and
with
city
management
about
the
best
way
to
utilize
those
funds
that
can
really
make
a
difference
in
closing
the
opportunity
gap.
C
Okay,
chair
turner,
I
would
really
love
that
conversation
to
come
to
this
committee,
so
that
we
can
see
what
needs
to
be
done
to
move
forward.
B
Yeah,
I
think
I'm
ready
for
understanding
when
it's
going
to
come
to
us
and
how
we
can
proceed.
So
maybe
what
we
can
do
is
cue.
This
up
for
an
agenda
item
next
month.
Is
that
too
long
to
wait?
E
No
concerns
I
do
have
a
request
kind
of
along
the
equity,
the
line
of
equity
discussion
that
the
vice
mayor
just
brought
up,
and
I
would
be
interested
in
knowing
if
the
vice
mayor
and
councilwoman
turner
would
also
be
interested
in
this
particular
information.
I'm
wondering
when
I
take
a
look
at
the
the
list
of
developments
that
we
are
in
that
are
in
progress.
E
I
would
be
particularly
interested
in
a
demographic,
breakup
or
breakdown
of
the
developers
we
have
approved
or
incentivized.
Obviously,
the
last
five
years,
the.
E
The
develop
the
development
companies
themselves
also
for
those
projects
where
folks
have
moved
in.
I
would
like
to
know
the
demographic
breakup
of
the
residents
and
please
remove
the
housing
authority
from
those
numbers.
B
Let
me
make
sure
I'm
understanding
this
so
projects
that
we
have
partnered
on
with
the
company
we
partnered
with
the
demographics
of
their
companies
and
then
a
second
request
of
excluding
housing
authority
properties.
These
developments,
we've
partnered
on
and
people
have
moved
what
the
demographics
of
those
who
have
moved
in
are.
Did
I
get
that
right?
B
Yeah,
okay,
I'm
probably
I'll
still
do
a
little,
I'm
probably
going
to
do
a
little
research
on
like
what
kind
of
information
we
can
ask
about
the
developers,
it's
just
a
gray
area
for
me,
but
I'll,
see
what
I
can
find
out,
councilwoman
or
vice
mayor
smith.
Anything
to
add
to
that.
E
Well,
I
wasn't
quite
finished
with
the
request.
Please,
oh
I'm
sorry
go
ahead.
Bro
and
I'd
also
be
interested,
and
I
know
that
usually
the
county
puts
out
demographic
makeups
for
those
who
fall
below
ami
certain
amis,
and
I
haven't
seen
one
for
the
city
in
general.
I
don't
even
know
if
that's
available
to
us,
but
I
would
love
to
know,
say,
for
example,
what
percentages
of
african
americans
fall
below
30
ami?
What
percentage
of
asheville
african
americans
fall
below
60?
What
percentage
falls
below
80?
What
percentage
falls
below
100.?
E
B
Interesting,
so
it
sounds
like
you've
been
thinking
about
this.
This
is
intriguing,
so
I
really
don't
know
how
we
get
this
data,
the
american
community
surveys,
you
know
just
general
census
data
may
break
some
of
that
down
for
amis
and
race.
I'd
have
to
look
so
what
I'm
gleaning
from
this
is
we're
going
to
do
a
little
background,
digging
and
see
what's
available
and
then
come
back.
E
Any
other
points
yeah,
because
my
my
goal
is
to
determine
if
the
way
we
go
about
our
affordable
housing,
if
it
is
in
fact
something
that
exacerbates
a
disparity.
E
By
that
I
know,
we've
all
seen
that
picture,
that
equity
picture,
where
there'll
be
two,
maybe
three
children
on
one
side
of
a
fence
and
there's
like
a
hill
and
it'll,
show
some
people
higher
on
the
fence,
but
the
barrier
is
still
being
the
same.
E
Just
my
thought
process
is
if
we
have
many
many
african
americans
at
the
lower
end,
meaning
30
ami,
and
then
we
have
say
white
folks
right
around
that
60..
If
we
keep
building
at
60
and
80,
then
this
group
goes
up
and
this
group
stays
here
and
while
we
are
in
fact
helping
a
very
large
and
desirable
group,
we
are
unwittingly
increasing
that
disparity,
even
though
our
process
is
in
fact
progressive.
E
So
I'm
just
I'm
looking
for
data
points
to
see
if
that,
if
my
hunch
is
in
fact
the
case,
because
you
know
I
hear
in
the
community
that
we
do
affordable
housing
for
white
people
and
that's
really
what
people
are
meaning
when
they
say
that.
B
D
I'm
sorry
one
thing
that
would
be
helpful,
so
so
one
one
of
the
if,
if
the
three
of
three
of
y'all
want
to
request
that
we
can
work
on
that,
and
we
would
also
want
to
include
in
there
because
you
know
my
suspicion
councilmember
mosley-
is
that,
based
on
what
I've
seen
is
that
you
are
accurate.
But
that
is
just
my
hunch,
but
I'd
also
love
for
us
to
expand
it
a
little
further
to
say
what
are
those
barriers.
D
So
if
we
come
back
with
the
data
that
shows
that
we
are
putting
more
white
people
into
this
housing
when
there
is
actually
more
of
a
need
for
black
people
to
get
the
housing,
what
are
the
barriers
that
are
keeping
that
from
happening
and
the
way
that
the
funding
is
set
aside?
Is
it
the
limitations
on
how
the
money's
borrowed
and
how
it
could
be?
So
I
would
want
to
take
that
beyond
just
here's
the
data
but
into
here's
the
barriers
that
are
keeping
this.
E
B
It's
really
interesting
and
it
brings
to
mind
at
least
twice
a
year.
Someone
approaches
me
about
unc,
asheville
research
projects
and
a
desire
to
do
some
kind
of
research
project
for
the
community
that
has
been
untapped
or
unable
to
be
completed
because
some
of
this
I'm
just
thinking
back
to
my
grad
school
years
and
how
someone
would
go
about
finding
this
data,
and
I
think
it's
probably
very
time,
consuming
and
very
interesting.
So
I'd
like
to.
B
I
agree
that
this
would
be
a
really
great
thing
to
discuss
and
flush
out
and
find
out
more
about
how
we
get
to.
That
is
going
to
be
another
story.
But
I
wonder
if
there
is
some
research
out
there
available
or
if
we
can
talk
with
staff
about
what
we
think
is
accessible
already
paul
or
anybody
in
your
department
have
any
thoughts
immediately
or
are
you
kind
of
like
me
like?
Let's,
let's
look
into
this.
F
No,
I
think
it's
great.
I
I
think
that
patrick
bowen,
the
consultant,
might
be
able
to
help
us
out
with
something
like
this,
and
he
could
do
it
quickly
because
he's
got
that
expertise
with
census
data
as
well.
I
think
the
only
thing
that
comes
to
mind
quickly
is
that
a
lot
of
the
agreements
we've
done
recently
aren't
fully
constructed
yet
so
I
don't
know
how
much
data
is
there,
especially
recently,
since
the
policy
was
just
changed
to
start
accepting
a
more
focus
towards
60
ami
accepting
vouchers,
80
ami.
F
The
policy
change
we
did
in
june
talked
about
the
outreach.
We
expect
our
partners
to
do
which
wasn't
in
there
before,
but
I
think
it's
a
great
data
set
to
start
taking
a
look
at
and
and
teeing
up,
I
think
reporting
that
out
yearly
would
also
make
sense
too
just
a
lot
of
times
between
the
approval
of
luigi
and
a
certificate
of
occupancy.
Sometimes
it's
like
a
two-year
before
the
units
are
up
and
running
like
360.
Hillary
isn't
quite
there
yet,
but
they
may
have
the
demographics
I
think
the
beginning
of
november.
E
So
excellent,
I'm
loving
the
discussion.
I'm
also
thinking
because
now
we're
starting
to
hear
more
and
more
from
developers
giving
a
commitment
when
reasonably
possible
to
hire
minority
contractors,
I'm
hoping
we
can
up
the
ante
a
little
bit.
I
had
a
great
conversation
with
carl
harris.
E
He
was
the
construction
manager
at
lee
walker
heights
and
I
was
quite
pleased
with
the
unusually
high
percentages
frankly
for
asheville
and
I'm
wondering
if
he
could
present
to
us
or
if
there's
some
way,
that
we
can
get
him
in
contact
with
developers
to
understand
what
he
has
done
and
why
he
has
been
so
successful
in
what
he's
done
so
again.
That's
paul
carl
harris
carl
or
paul
carl
carl
c-a-r-l.
E
All
here
I
call
her
manager
at
lee
walker
heights,
maple
crescent.
B
Margie
bukowski,
who
is
with
weaver
cook,
who
is
the
general
contracting
firm
on
maple
crest,
had
also
reached
out
to
me,
he's
probably
listening
right
now,
a
couple
months
ago
to
share
that
you
know
more
buildings
had
opened
and
they'd
like
to
share
the
story
of
success.
I
wonder
if
we
get
a
general
maple
crest
agenda.
Item
hey
this
is
where
we're
at
it's
wonderful.
We've
come
this
far.
This
is
speaking
to
carl
and
his
and
how
he
was
able
to
hire
and
procure
so
much
great
work
and
just
kind
of
get
a
wrap-up.
B
It
might
be
a
great
thing.
I
know
margie
had
some
images
to
share
and
some
just
general
statistics
and
maybe
there's
a
good
whole
kind
of
you
know
closure
report
out
there.
That
could
happen.
E
B
Love
that
thanks
yeah,
I
like
that
too,
thank
you,
councilwoman
mosley.
Anything
else
about
these
particular
updates.
B
I
had
a
couple
things
I
did
notice
so
on
the
cd
updates
in
general.
There
is
a
new
linked
document
on
there
that
I
found
very
interesting
and
I
believe
a
hack
has
been
reviewing
monthly
and
it
is
so
for
those
of
you
listening
at
home.
This
would
be
under
the
document
known
as
community
development
updates.
B
So
now
I
see
this
update
come
up,
which
is
great.
I
just
don't
quite
understand
it,
because
this
is
the
first
time
I've
seen
it,
because
when
I
look
at
it
it
looks
like
where
the
rental
rate
is
over
100
and
I
would
just
love
if
anybody
understands
what
that
means.
They're
renting
more
units
than
are
available
somehow
or
maybe
I'm
interpreting
that
wrong,
and
then
it
looks
like
and
paul.
Maybe
you
can
speak
to
this
that
we're
kind
of
closing
in
on
there's
fewer
and
fewer
vouchers
being
returned.
Is
that
right.
F
So
yep
again
paul
here
with
community
development,
we
did-
and
we
may
have
already
talked
about
this
here,
but
we
did
request
this
report.
We've
been
trying
to
get
somebody
from
the
housing
authority
on
the
a-hac
board,
so
we've
got
brandy
from
the
housing
authority.
I'm
blanking
on
our
last
name
on
the
board
right
now,
and
we
asked
for
this
report
to
kind
of
get
an
idea.
We
always
hear
in
the
community
that
vouchers
aren't
moving,
and
you
know
three
months
they
have
to
use
them.
F
Usually
that
gets
extended
to
six
months.
If
an
individual
or
family
gets
that
voucher
and
then
can't
find
a
landlord
to
utilize
it,
then
it
goes
back
to
the
housing
authority.
Hence
how
we've
tried
to
change
our
policies
to
be
able
to
incentivize
like
the
acceptance
of
the
vouchers,
and
the
idea
on
this
report
is:
is
it
going
to
make
a
difference?
Is
that
you
know,
along
with
all
the
partners,
not
just
us,
but
is
it
making
a
difference?
F
It
seems
that
it
seems
that
less
vouchers
are
being
returned,
but
what
I
can
ask
from
brandy
is
to
provide
a
little
narrative
summary
specifically
on
that
point
for
a
hack
that
then
I
could
flip
over
here,
but
that's
why
we
wanted
to
start
track
it
to
start
tracking
that
to
see
are
the
vouchers
moving
in
our
community.
I
think
it's
you
know
for
an
individual
family
to
get
that
voucher
and
then
three
to
six
months
have
nowhere
to
find
in
the
private
market
where
it's
accepted
really
difficult.
F
B
Yes,
when
I
look
at
this,
I
mean
it
looks
like
there's
some
interesting
trends.
I
mean
the
highest
number
was
march
782
on
a
waitlist
down
to
the
lowest
number
in
june,
which
is
415
on
a
waitlist
and
then
back
up
in
august
to
600.,
and
then
the
other
part
of
my
brain
is
thinking.
Okay,
we
just
approved
130
charlotte
street
and
they're
going
to
accept
19.
like
we're,
attacking
this
number
pretty
strongly,
and
I
think
that
brings
I'm
just
encouraged
to
see
this.
B
B
Thank
you.
I
noticed
there
was
an
interesting
session
from
kayla
students
today
I
wanted
to
give
a
little
shout
out
to
them,
because
they've
been
so
helpful
in
their
approach
and
graduation,
but
it
also
looks
like
they
have
an
event
today.
So
these
are
our
high
school
students
that
come
and
volunteer
with
the
city
and
learn
great
experience.
B
I
did
have
a
question
about
steve
review
and
the
purpose-built
communities
I
just
feel
like
we
haven't,
heard
an
update
in
a
while,
and
I
wasn't
sure
if
there
is
one
or
is
there
anything
to
share.
Is
there
any
progress
on
this
or
where
are
we
at
in
the
timeline.
F
So
I'm
not
sure
if
kathy
ball
will
want
to
add
anything
here,
but
for
right
now
there
you
know
conversations
happening
between
the
housing
authority
and
city
management,
just
to
see
what
a
potential
partnership
looks
like
and
those
conversations
have
been
continuing.
F
I
think
that
there's
actually
one
happening
right
now,
and
so
those
conversations
are
moving
forward
to
try
to
figure
out
where
that
look.
What
that
looks
like,
I
think
one
thing
is
especially
on
a
planning
process.
You
know
an
eight
to
twelve
month
planning
process
with
the
dave
review
and
surrounding
communities,
and
those
are
things
that
are
being
discussed
kathy.
D
B
Great
and
I
imagine,
as
things
close
out
that
wrap
up
at
maple
crest,
that
this
will
be
a
natural
progression
to
switch
the
conversation
to
another
potential
partnership.
Thank
you.
I
just
wasn't
sure
if
there
was
an
update,
a
couple
more
things
to
figure
out
from
the
other
covet
update
related
to,
I
guess
the
just
covered
related
updates.
So
we
have
some
eviction
data,
that's
been
updated
and
I'll
just
run
through
a
little
history.
B
So
from
july
2020
to
june
2021,
there
were
968
evictions
in
buncombe
county,
which
was
down
about
48
percent
527
were
granted
in
whole
or
in
part,
and
then,
if
you
remember,
there
was
a
brief
gap
in
the
moratorium
that
became
a
longer
gap,
but
between
july
31st
and
august
3rd
there
were
30
more
and
then
just
recently.
B
B
It
did
hear
from
someone
that
was
seeking
advice
on
who
to
reach
out
to
regarding
their
eviction,
and
this
was
this
week
and
they,
let
me
know
that
pista
had
told
them
they
were
on
a
wait
list.
I
have
not
confirmed
that
with
pisgah,
but
we
may
be
seeing
an
uptick
in
general
and
perhaps
at
either
a
hack
or
a
next
htc.
We
could
discuss
some
more
evictions
and
I
could
reach
out
to
pisgah
in
the
meantime
to
see
what's
happening,
but
I
did
want
to
share
those
important
that
important
information.
B
One
other
fact
that
stood
out
for
me
was
we've
been
watching
rents
climb
year
over
year.
It's
a
national
trend,
it's
a
state
trend,
it's
a
local
trend,
but
something
happened
interesting
in
september,
so
we've
been
seeing
double
digit
growth,
20
percentile
growth
year
over
year
for
months,
and
then
I
think
in
august
it
was
21.5.
B
B
Okay,
I
think
that
is
all
my
questions
for
the
particular
updates
that
you
shared
today
anything
else
from
other
council,
women
or
paul.
If
you
wanted
to
respond.
F
Yeah
just
quickly
just
a
reminder
to
anyone
listening
that
the
resource
guide
that's
pretty
much
listed
on
all
of
our
updates
talks
about
resources.
If
you
are
in
a
challenging
environment
with
being
behind
on
rent
or
in
threat
of
eviction
that
there
are
resources
available,
calling
two
one.
One
is
probably
your
easiest
and
best
bet.
If
you
don't
have
time
to
take
a
look
at
the
updates,
but
there
are
some
resources
there
and
then
a
quick
question
for
councilwoman
mosley.
Would
it
make
sense
to
possibly
invite
carl
harris
to
a
hack?
F
We
do
guest
speakers
there
and
that
makes
sense
to
me
where
we
could
bring
him
in
maybe
next
month
or
december,
but
I
wanted
to
ask
your
opinion.
I
would
very
much
like
that.
Thank
you,
okay.
I
could
do
that
thanks.
B
F
Yes,
that's
correct,
and
thanks
so
much,
we've
got
the
update
for
amending
annual
action
plan
and
a
few
folks
have
asked
that
it
seems
like
we
amend
our
annual
action
plan
quite
a
bit,
but
anytime
we
make
some
what
we
would
kind
of
consider
significant
changes,
it's
important
to
amend
our
annual
action
plan
with
hud
and
take
that
back
through
the
process
with
hcd
and
council.
F
So
that's
why
we're
here
today
we
are
asking
to
amend
the
2021
annual
action
plan
to
correct
and
properly
assign
225
000
in
home
program
income
received
from
the
battery
park
apartments
in
the
payback
of
a
home
loan
that
from
the
fiscal
1819
program
year
and
then
adjust
our
2021
funding
to
reflect
this
change
and
sign
all
documents
necessary.
F
Just
some
quick
background
there
that
we
are
the
entitlement
community
for
cdbg
and
with
a
participating
jurisdiction
for
home
funding
and
funding
mostly
has
to
do
with
the
construction
and
preservation
of
affordable
housing,
plus
some
other
activities
and
that's
handled
by
our
asheville
regional
housing
consortium
known
as
the
ar
hc,
and
we
have
meetings
with
them
about
the
annual
home
funding
like
we
do
with
this
committee
for
the
cdbg
funding.
In
summary,
a
two
thousand
two
hundred
and
two
thousand
five
hundred
dollar
discrepancy
was
discovered
in
program
income.
F
So
we
can't
receive
that
that
funding
twice
we've
been
in
contact
with
our
hud
field
office
and
convert
confirm
that
the
solution
that
we've
come
up
with,
which
is
to
move
the
home
admin
back
to
the
2018
fund
and
the
200
and
2500,
will
be
assigned
to
the
current
reallocation
to
make
up
that
difference
and
that'll
help
fully
award
the
actual
bunch
of
community
land
trust
that
was
awarded
last
year
for
some
home
funding
that
they
had
received.
F
These
plans,
both
the
fiscal
2021
and
the
fiscal
2122
action
plan,
should
be
amended
together
to
correct
and
properly
assign
that
225
000.
So
we
have
both
of
these
going
to
council.
I
believe,
on
november
9th
on
these
went,
this
went
through
the
asheville
regional
housing
consortium
board
on
september
23rd.
We
did
want
to
bring
that
back
through
to
hcd.
F
Normally
we
take
home
funding
there
and
then
we'll
go
to
directly
to
council,
but
because
of
this
discrepancy,
we
wanted
to
bring
that
to
hcd
as
we're
correcting
that
and
we
are
looking
to
get
a
motion
to
amend
the
fiscal
2021
annual
action
plan
and
correct
and
properly
assign
225
000
in
home
program
income
received
from
battery
park
apartments
to
the
fiscal
1819
program
year
and
adjust
2021
funding
to
reflect
this
change
and
sign
all
documents.
B
C
I
just
have
a
a
question
program
program
income
when
it's
reallocated
the
activities
have
to
be
kind
of
the
same
in
nature.
So
what
will
be
done
with
the
the
funds
used
by
the
land?
Trust.
F
So
whenever
we
do
get
program
income,
it
comes
back
into
what
we
allocate
out
every
year
and
then
they
just
have
to
be
for
eligible
hud
activities,
whether
that's
cdbg
program,
income
or
hud,
home
program
income,
and
so
this
funding
that
will
help
us
fully
fund
the
clt
and
correct
that
error
is
going
to
be,
I
believe,
for
anywhere
from
three
to
six
to
possibly
nine
homes
in
their
kind
of
repair
construction
as
they
try
to
continue
to
move
forward
in
home
ownership.
F
So
in
their
grant
program,
it'll
help
build
their
capacity
as
well
as
additional
homes
in
their
inventory.
B
Councilwoman
mosley
any
questions
so
we're
mostly
just
doing
a
little
correction
activity
here.
I
appreciate
you
being
so
transparent
about
it
paul
and
I'm
happy
to
make
a
motion.
If
there
are
no
other
questions,
so
I
will
move
to
amend
the
fiscal
year.
2021
annual
action
plan
and
correct
and
properly
assign
225
000
in
home
program
income
received
from
battery
park
apartments
to
the
fiscal
fiscal
year
1819
program
and
adjust
fiscal
year.
2021
funding
to
reflect
this
change
and
to
sign
all
documents
necessary
to
implement
the
plan.
B
Thank
you
do
a
real
call
vote.
Vice
mayor
smith,
hi
councilwoman,
mosley,
hi,
myself,
stage
turner.
I
thank
you
and
that
concludes
item
number
three
on
our
agenda.
We'll
move
on
to
number
four
macho
loan
update
on
compton
place
and
I
believe
mary
brooke
cox
is
going
to
yep.
I
see
she
has
joined
us.
Thank
you
hi
mary
brooke,
and
if
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
take
please.
A
Do
good
morning
everyone
I'm
maryboy
cox.
I
am
a
community
development
analyst
here
with
the
city
this
morning,
we'll
be
discussing
a
recent
request
for
mountain
housing
opportunities
for
mho
and
to
modify
the
loan
terms
of
an
existing
housing
trust
fund
loan
for
pumped
in
place.
There
are
three
components
to
this
request,
so
the
first
piece
is:
they
would
like
to
extend
the
maturity
date
from
december
of
2021
to
december
2030
once
an
additional
10
years.
A
So
this
is
actually
one
of
the
earlier
housing
trust
fund
lines.
It
was
awarded
in
2001
and
the
loan
amount
is
140
000.
This
is
for
compton
place,
which
is
actually
40
rental
units
for
low-income
senior
citizens.
It's
located
out
on
a
lida
home
road.
It
does
serve
seniors
who
are
55
and
older
and
who
earn
50
to
60
percent
of
the
area.
Median
income
amount,
the
project
was
completed
and
it
was
awarded
in
2001
but
actually
completed
with
a
certificate
of
occupancy
in
2003..
A
So
the
principal
amount
of
this
loan
has
been
deferred
until
december
of
this
year
and
they
have
been
paying
an
annual
interest
payment
of
31.50
each
year
since
then,
to
date,
mho
has
paid
just
under
53
000
on
interest
for
this
loan.
In
our
discussions
with
with
the
agency,
the
cash
flow
for
this
project
doesn't
support
a
loan
margin
large
enough
to
pay
off
their
housing
trust
fund
loan,
as
well
as
their
other
debts.
A
So
what
mho
would
like
to
do
is
to
bundle
compton
place
some
of
their
older
properties,
submit
them
for
an
allocation
of
four
percent
tax
credits
and
then
complete
a
moderate
level
of
rehab.
So
this
would
involve
restructuring
the
financing
and
then
paying
off
the
existing
debt
on
other
loans,
and
we
we
do
welcome
our
developers
to
discuss
with
the
city
just
to
modify
their
running
terms,
to
extend
the
affordability
periods
and
add
additional
affordable
units.
A
This
proposal
does
support
a
city
council
goal
of
quality,
affordable
housing.
There
are
a
couple
of
benefits
to
approving
this.
The
first
being
affordable
units
are
preserved
for
an
additional
10
years,
and
it
also
gives
mho
the
opportunity
to
complete
a
rehab
of
the
property
to
ensure
quality,
affordable
housing,
housing
investment
dollars
are
preserved.
A
This
loan
would
not
be
forgiven,
but
it
would
be
extended,
so
the
city
has
received
those
annual
interest
payments
for
the
last
20
years.
We
would
not
be
collecting
future
interest
payments,
but
would
instead
receive
an
annual
principal-only
payment
with
a
bullying
payment
at
maturity.
There's
no
effect
on
the
general
fund
for
this
proposal.
A
B
Thank
you,
mary
brooke
james.
Did
you
want
to
add
anything
before
we
move
to
questions?
No,
I
think
mary
brooke
did
a
fabulous
job
of
summarizing.
Our
request,
great,
thank
you
and
thank
you,
mary
brooke,
so
I
want
to
try
and
give
a
brief
summary
of
what
I
understood
just
for
those
listening
at
home.
That
may
not
be
in
the
weeds
of
acronyms
and
all
these
terms
that
we've
just
used.
B
B
I
hope
that
helps
simplify
for
those
of
you
that
were
texting
me
confused.
So
I
don't
have
any
concerns
about
this.
I
think
it's
it's
an
interesting
way
to
approach.
I
support
mho's
history
of
creating
affordable
housing
in
the
community
and
if
this
helps
them
continue
to
keep
this
affordable
for
another
10
years,
it
seems
like
a
small
price
to
pay.
E
Sure
I'll
do
it
a
move
for
the
approval
of
mho's
request
to
extend
the
maturity
date
of
housing.
Trust
fund
loan
for
compromise
from
december
7
2021
to
december
7,
2031
reduced
the
interest
rate
from
2.25
percent
to
0
and
modify
the
loan
payments
to
annual
principal.
Only
payments
of
three
thousand
nine
hundred
sixty
two
dollars
with
a
balloon
payment
of
one
hundred
thousand
three
hundred
and
eighty
dollars.
C
B
B
Great,
thank
you
I'm
glad
I
asked
speaking
to
councilwoman
mosley's
previous
point
all
right.
Thank
you.
So
I'll
call
a
roll
call
vote
by
mayor
smith,
hi
house
woman,
mostly.
E
B
I
am
just
being
intercepted
here,
so
it
sounds
like
we
have
public
comment.
My
apologies.
Do
we
have
callers
on
the
line
regarding
this.
A
B
Okay,
I'm
off
the
hook,
I
saved
turner.
We
have.
We
have
voted,
thank
you
mho
for
being
here,
james
and
mary,
brooks
for
being
here
today,
and
that
will
conclude
item
number
four
on
our
agenda.
So
moving
on
to
item
number
five
is
the
haywood
street
congregation
and
the
funding
for
haywood
street
development
has
nikki
been
able
to
complete
her
last
meeting
and
join
us.
I
have
her
as
lead
on
this,
so
I
didn't
see
her
join.
F
I
will
take
the
lead,
but
I
just
texted
nikki
as
soon
as
we're
done.
I
think
we're
both
going
to
be
available
for
questions.
F
Sure
good
morning,
again,
paul
d'angelo,
with
community
economic
development
here
to
talk
about
the
haywood
street
community
development
due
diligence
grant
agreement
action
requested
today
is
to
recommend
to
amend
a
grant
agreement
with
the
haywood
street
community
development
folks
for
an
additional
due
diligence
costs
in
their
pursuit
of
the
development
of
approximately
42
permanently
affordable
rental
homes
to
include
in
the
due
diligence
additional
surveying,
environmental
assessments,
geotechnology
analysis,
title
examination
and
civil
and
architectural
site
planning
and
any
other
investigations
on
site
that
may
be
necessary.
F
Haywood
street
community
development
has
proposed
to
build
approximately
42,
affordable
apartments
with
a
potential
of
5
000
give
or
take
square
feet
in
community
space
on
a
0.83
acre
parcel
located
at
343
and
357
west
haywood
street
haywood
street
congregation
is
an
urban
ministry
with
its
main
headquarters
located
at
297
haywood
street,
with
several
core
programs
helping
our
community
most
in
need.
Haywood
street
has
formed
a
501c3
nonprofit
known
as
the
haywood
street
community
development,
with
the
intention
to
provide
permanent,
affordable
housing
to
the
most
vulnerable
members
of
the
asheville
community.
F
F
This
is
their
first
effort
towards
development
hs
cd,
as
they
are
known,
hopes
to
construct
a
single
building
with
approximately
40
units,
give
or
take
to
be
released,
permanently,
affordable
with
deep
restrictions
to
households,
earning
80
and
below
of
the
area
needed
income
with
the
goal
of
having
half
of
the
apartments
at
or
below,
30
percent
of
the
airing
needed
income
that
is
reasonably
feasible
to
work
within
their
pro
forma,
as
well
as
the
offer
of
community
space.
F
Last
year,
the
city
was
working
on
an
agreement
with
the
city
regarding
ashland
avenue,
for
an
affordable
housing
development
and
did
incur
cost
in
the
due
diligence
and
design
and
anticipation
of
being
able
to
purchase
that
property.
However,
after
significant
input
from
the
community,
it
was
determined
that
that
ashland
property
was
not
the
appropriate
site
for
this
development,
due
to
the
above
aforementioned
reasons,
as
well
as
due
to
the
need
for
this
type
of
affordable
housing.
F
In
our
community,
the
city
is
exploring
continued
partnership
with
hscd
to
develop
the
affordable
housing
project
on
a
different
site
and
has
committed
71
000
in
due
diligence
funding
in
the
form
of
a
grant
agreement.
10
000,
going
towards
earnest
money,
deposit
for
the
purchase
of
the
site
and
61
000
for
due
diligence,
investigations
that
have
been
occurring
so
far.
F
The
grant
agreement
also
states
that
hscd
and
the
city
will
work
towards
a
goal
of
additional
grant
agreement
ensuring
comprehensive
opportunities,
including
the
purchase
of
this
site,
as
well
as
construction
of
the
development
with
the
property
under
contract.
Now
hcd
is
asking
for
an
amendment
to
that.
Seventy
one
thousand
dollar
grant
agreement
for
an
additional
two
hundred
and
twenty
five
thousand
in
grant
funding
to
pursue
those
additional
investigations
and
due
diligence
on
the
site.
F
This
would
be
using
affordable
housing
bond
dollars
as
the
city's
funding
storage
source
hscd
reserves
the
right
to
return.
The
city
return
to
the
city
for
additional
grant
agreement
funding
in
the
near
future
to
include
the
purchase
of
the
site
and
construction
and
development.
If
due
diligence
item
points
towards
successful
development
of
40,
approximate
40,
affordable
housing
units
in
our
community,
additional
eligible
project
cost
could
include
site
infrastructure
costs,
including
without
limitation
abatement,
demolition,
mobilization,
etc.
F
Regarding
due
diligence
that
needed
to
occur,
investigating
the
purchase
of
that
property,
if
the
purchase
of
the
property
does
not
proceed
to
closing
haywood
street
would
assign
the
rights
to
and
provide
copies
of,
ending
all
due
diligence
to
the
city,
who
would
then
be
the
rightful
owner
and
final
owner
of
those
materials.
F
This
meets
several
council
goals,
quality,
affordable
housing,
equitable
and
diverse
community,
and
a
well-planned
and
livable
community,
some
pros
notated
in
the
staff
report.
The
approval
of
the
amendment
to
the
grant
agreement
will
allow
the
developer
to
continue
this
due
diligence
work
as
well
as
financing
finalizing
some
of
their
finances
sources
to
move
forward.
The
city
would
gain
approximately
40
new
permanently
affordable
housing
units
under
80
ami
again,
with
that
goal
of
serving
individuals
and
families
up
to
30
percent
of
ami
and
that
community
space.
F
This
development
aligns
with
the
city
of
asheville's
consolidated
plan,
a
goal
of
prioritizing
the
development
of
affordable
rental
housing
to
individuals
and
families
at
or
below
60
ami.
A
con
notated
was
that
funds
are
granted
towards
this
parcel
and
the
parcel
may
not
be
purchased
and
the
project
may
not
move
to
construction.
F
There
is
a
fiscal
impact
there.
This
would
be
approximately
296.
F
296
000
allocated
towards
this
project
from
previously
approved
go
bonds,
and
we
are
here
with
staff
recommendation
to
recommend
to
amend
this
grant
agreement
for
the
additional
225
000..
Both
ward
griffin
and
brian
combs
are
here
today
for
any
questions
that
you
might
have
about
the
project
and
I'll
turn
it
back
to
hcd
to
see
if
they
have
any
questions
for
myself,
nikki's
now
joined
or
the
developers.
B
B
And
I
will
alert
the
committee
to
know
that
we
did
receive
some
email
comments
about
this
and
we
will
have
a
public
comment
in
a
few
minutes.
But
if
you
do
not
see
your
email,
you
may
want
to
check
that
housewoman,
mostly.
E
F
That
may
be
a
question
for
brian
combs
to
talk
about
the
target:
demographics
and
area,
immediate
incomes,
brian.
H
Sure
I'm
glad
to
be
here.
Thank
you
for
having
me.
Our
intention
is
primarily
to
house
folks
who
simply
can't
afford
to
live
in
asheville
any
longer.
As
paul
said
earlier,
over
half
the
units
are
targeted
voucher
holders.
If
you're,
as
many
of
you
are
familiar,
some
of
those
folks
are
currently
on
the
streets
with
vouchers.
However,
most
of
them
are
currently
in
public
housing.
They've
done
well.
H
They
have
lived
in
housing
for
a
year
plus
without
incident.
However,
they're
looking
for
a
different
environment
with
a
little
bit
more
stability,
so
for
every
voucher
holder,
that's
in
public
housing
that
would
possibly
move
into
our
development.
That's
one
person
on
the
street
that
would
then
move
to
the
top
of
the
list
to
finally
get
housing
themselves
so
indirectly,
yes,
it
would
be
helping
with
folks
who
are
currently
homeless.
H
B
You
for
those
of
you
who
are
listening
at
home.
This
comes
up
from
time
to
time
and
also
has
come
up
in
the
work
that
thrive.
Asheville
has
done
so
I
don't
think
everyone
realizes
when
you
are
seeking
a
housing
voucher
through
the
housing
authority.
There
is
a
one-year
requirement
built
into
the
process
to
live
on
a
housing
within
a
housing
authority
development
and
after
that
year
you
are
able
to
take
that
voucher
out
into
the
greater
community.
B
So
what
pastor
cones
is
speaking
to
and
what
thrive
often
speaks
to
is
helping
twice
as
many
people
is
that
when
you
get
someone
that
is
using
a
voucher
in
a
public
housing
environment
that
can
now
move
to
a
non-hacker-owned
property,
you
are
freeing
up
someone
on
the
waitlist
behind
them,
so
it
is
impacting
twice
as
many
people.
I
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out,
because
I
don't
think
that
people
are
quite
aware
of
the
year
councilman
knosley
did
you
have
something
more
about
that.
E
Yeah
something's
just
popping
into
my
mind
so
with
regards,
because
I
assure
you
at
some
point
to
the
project
before
there
will
be
a
waiting
list.
I
wonder
if
folks,
with
vouchers
is,
is
there
a
prop
a
process
and
is
permissible
so
that
one
with
a
voucher
could
move
up
the
list
for
an
apartment?
Is
that
permissible?
B
E
F
I'll,
let
janice
go
ahead
and
answer,
but
it's
my
understanding
of
we
can't
with
income
class,
not
being
a
protected
class
like
that.
You
have
to
follow
the
wait
list
for
the
next
person
in
slot
in
line
and
can't
bump
up
a
voucher
holder.
There
has
been
incidences
and
developments
where,
because
the
voucher
often
can
come
with
more
funding
than
someone
at
60.
Ai
people
have
tried
to
jump
that
up,
but
you
have
to
go,
buy
the
wait
list
by
the
next
person
in
line
and
the
slot.
G
And
this
is
janice
that
that
sounds
right
to
me.
I
I
can't
really
think
of-
and
it
kind
of
occurred
to
me
that
if
you
have
a
commitment
to
accept
a
certain
amount
of
vouchers,
but
I
don't
think
you
can
set
aside
a
unit.
This
is
like
a
voucher
unit,
and
this
is
a
you
know,
an
otherwise
just
affordable
unit.
We
always
even
in
our
affordable
feed
restriction.
We
want
them.
We
don't
want
any
one
unit
to
be
the
affordable
unit.
We
want
the
mix
throughout.
G
E
So
then
it
would
be
prudent
for
someone
to
get
on
the
waiting
list
before
he
or
she
has
the
voucher
and
then
hope
that
they're
at
the
top
of
the
list,
when
an
apartment
opens
up
because
isn't
there
what's
the
limitation
on
the
time
frame
that
one
can
have
the
voucher.
F
Three
months
usually-
and
then,
but
usually
the
housing
authority
because
of
the
difficulty
in
the
market
will
extend
that
to
six
months,
but
in
this
market
not
a
lot
of
time,
but
we
always
do
when
we
know
waiting
lists
are
open
up.
We
try
to
share
that
information
on
that
cd
list
serve
really
important
to
get
on
there
as
soon
as
possible.
Absolutely.
C
Oh
go
ahead:
we
did
get
a
couple
comments
by
email
and
also
the
pre-recorded
comments
sent
to
this
committee
a
lot
of
conversations
about
infrastructure
as
it
relates
to
sewage
and
also
traffic,
and
also
the
parking
plan,
and
it
seems
that
the
grant
agreement
and
all
the
surveying
and
environmental
assessments
will
address
those
very
concerns.
C
But
one
thing
that
the
the
grant
agreement
will
not
address
that
I
wanted
to
speak
on
today
was
the
potential
for
on-site
services
to
impact
negatively
the
community
because
of
the
nature
of
some
of
the
behaviors
and
challenges
of
this.
This
group
of
the
folk
just
wanted
you
to
speak
on
how
you
would
manage
and
bring
some
level
of
control,
because
we
know
housing
is
a
level
of
control
around
our
homelessness
issue,
but
that
corridor
we've
been
receiving
a
lot
of
comments
from
business
owners
and
also
neighbors.
C
Well,
you
know
it's
just
some
things
some
challenges,
so
I
wanted
to
hear
from
you
today,
pastor
combs
as
to
how
you
plan
on
kind
of
bringing
some
resolve
to
some
of
those
issues
through
the
services
that
you're
rendering.
H
J
H
We
welcome
anybody,
especially
if
they're
struggling
with
mental
illness
and
or
addiction.
What
we're
proposing
on
west
ham
street
is
not
a
low
berry
shelter,
and
I
have
noticed
through
my
neighborhood
engagement,
that
our
proposal
has
often
gotten
conflated
with
the
ramada
inn,
a
hope
and
the
homer
bound
days
in
project.
H
Those
are
all
incredibly
significant
projects,
in
my
opinion
that
are
essential
to
be
funded
and
supported,
and
they
are
among
folks
who
are
chronically
homeless,
who
are
in
need
of
permanent
support
of
housing.
What
we
are
proposing
is
something
different
again
for
voucher
holders.
They're
folks,
who've
done
well
in
public
housing
reached
a
level
of
stability.
H
Our
community
space
is
intended
to
be
a
place
where
community
is
deepened.
We
have
learned
through
our
many
years
doing.
Church
with
folks
who
are
struggling
is
that's
ultimately
the
hardest
part.
It's
not
the
material
lack
it.
It's
not
the
discrimination,
it's
actually
the
isolation.
The
community
space
is
intended
to
find
as
many
excuses
as
possible
to
share
life
together.
Potlucks
yo
classes,
job
training
movie
night.
All
those
things
are
the
intention
for
that
community
space
further.
H
One
of
the
particular
critiques
that
I've
heard
over
and
over
again
is
that
community
space
is
intended
to
be
a
direct
service
provider.
That
is
not
the
case
at
all.
We
do
not
intend
that
to
be
an
open
area
where
folks
are
walking
from
all
over
downtown
to
get
food
stamps
or
whatever
the
material
need
might
be.
Instead,
it's
intended
primarily
for
deepening
relationships
with
folks
who
live
in
the
building
and
inviting
immediate
neighbors,
and
we
can
to
to
share
life
together.
H
I
want
to
be
careful
about
how
we
define
services.
I
think
what
folks
who
have
raised
objection
to
this
project
mean
by
services,
is
posted
hours
monday
through
friday.
Anybody
can
come
in
and
receive
whatever
the
social
work
service
is,
whether
it's
a
some
kind
of
material
need
or
case
management,
those
kind
of
things.
H
That's
the
primary
focus.
Additionally,
unlike
at
haywood
street,
this
building
would
have
video
cameras,
key
fob
entrances.
We
would
have
on-site
property
management
and
at
church
we
we
have
a
mercy
league
which
is
a
de-escalation
response
team.
We
would
have
a
presence
on
site
as
well.
Additionally,
we
have
offered
to
we
can
to
partner
with
them
around
a
neighborhood
council
where
residents
and
immediate
neighbors
would
meet
regularly
to
talk
about
whatever's
going
well
whatever
it
needs
addressing,
and
we
continue
to
get
consistent
resonance
with
that
idea.
C
Thank
you
for
the
clarity
I
think
we're
seeing
now
that
there's
a
gap
in
our
services
folks
need
some
type
of
day
treatment
or
some
day
services,
and
I
didn't
want
your
project
to
get
misconstrued
with
that
type
of
deliverable.
B
B
I
know
that
that
site
held
a
lot
of
concerns
within
the
community
and
a
prior
council
had
voted
to
not
include
it
in
the
moratorium
around
urban
renewal
land,
and
I
thought
it
was
a
tremendous
thing
that
haywood
street
did,
after
working,
so
diffic,
so
intentionally
at
that
site
and
upon
discovery
of
learning
that
it
had
been
urban
renewal
land.
The
way
that
it
was
handled.
B
The
communication
with
the
community
and
ultimately
the
decision
to
look
elsewhere
was
greatly
appreciated,
at
least
in
my
eyes,
because
I
felt
that
it
was
a
large
concern
in
the
community
and
I'm
more
than
thrilled
to
find
that
you
have
found
an
alternative
location
that
is
suitable
for
your
needs.
So
just
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
effort
and
the
I
know
when
these
projects
come
together.
It
feels
like
a
huge
lift
and
then
anytime
there's
a
delay.
B
It
can
be
very
difficult
to
the
development
and
even
the
morale
of
the
groups
working
on
it
and
the
boards
involved
and
stuff.
So
I
just
want
to
express
to
y'all
my
appreciation
for
sticking
with
it.
This
is
a
great
project
wherever
it
lands,
whatever
happens,
the
goals
are
sound,
the
goals
and
the
folks
that
need
the
help
are.
It
is
what
we
need
in
the
community.
It
is
a
gap,
so
I
appreciate
you
all
working
on
this
and
for
having
the
foresight
to
be
able
to
look
elsewhere.
B
So
I
think
was
before
us
today
is
a
request
for
more
funding
in
partnership
with
the
city
to
do
more
due
diligence,
and
perhaps
someone
could
speak
to
the
timeline
a
little.
I
think
that
would
help
the
public
and
then
I
think,
we'll
be
ready
to
hear
from
the
public,
because
I
believe
that
we
have
some
callers.
Can
anyone
speak
to
the
timeline?
What
happens
next
or.
F
So
I
I
love
that
I
can
still
connect
with
nikki
virtually
about
who's
going
to
take
the
next
question
there,
but
so
right
now
we
have
a
meeting
with
city
management
today
to
kind
of
talk
about
that
timeline,
to
see
exactly
what
that
looks
like,
and
the
number
of
steps
back
to
hcd
and
back
to
council,
a
few
things
have
been
proposed
out
there,
someone
a
little
bit
more
quickly,
perhaps
coming
back
next
month
for
the
purchase
and
then
to
counsel
for
the
ultimate
conditional
zoning
and
date,
restrictions,
etc,
or
perhaps
something
in
january
february.
F
I
Thank
you,
I
think
that's
great
paul.
I
think
the
only
thing
that
I
would
add
is
really
the
the
timeline
is
based
on
achieving
certain
milestones,
and
so
that
timeline
is
very
much
influenced
by
the
the
process
for
zoning
approvals,
the
process
for
real
estate
investigations
and
and
working
towards
a
successful
closing,
as
well
as
the
community
engagement.
That
is
a
part
of
of
those
processes.
So
that's
really
what's
driving
the
timeline,
and
we
continue
to
check
in
on
how
to
make
sure
that
we're
meeting
those
milestones
in
a
transparent
process.
B
Thank
you
nikki.
I
do
have
one
question
for
pastor
combs.
We
received,
I
think,
there's
at
least
one
email.
It
might
have
been
two
from
the
community
around
there
the
weekend
community.
I
believe
they
addressed
themselves
as
saying
that
there
had
been
an
interest
in
an
adjacent
parcel,
being
purchased
and
potentially
more
apartments.
My
understanding
is
that
not
moving
forward
pastor
comes.
Could
you
speak
to
that,
so
that
the
community
has
some
clarity.
H
Sure
one
of
the
things
we
learned
from
the
ashland
avenue
experience
was
that
we
wanted
to
be
as
forthright
as
we
could
be
about
information
and
disseminating
that
to
the
community
as
quickly
as
we
had
it.
So
we've
literally
created
a
transparency
tracker
that
you
can
find
on
the
church
website
and
it
it
outlines
all
our
documents:
timelines,
there's
a
10
page
q,
a
section
we
were
approached
by
brown
haven.
It's
a
model
home
builder.
H
Their
plans
have
since
changed
they
reached
out
to
us
before
they
put
that
parcel
on
the
market
and
said:
are
you
interested
in
buying
it?
We
certainly
vetted
that
possibility
and
came
to
the
conclusion
that
the
per
door
cost
for
adding
that
top
lot
would
just
simply
be
too
much
for
the
pro
forma
to
bear,
and
we
weren't
convinced
considering
the
easement
that
comes
along
with
the
billboard,
that
we
could
even
get
10
to
15
units
on
there
anyway,
so
we
ultimately
declined.
H
However,
I
would
rather
the
neighborhood
know
that
that
group
approached
us
rather
than
hearing
about
it
somewhere
else.
So
in
our
neighborhood
engagement,
I
have
voluntarily
shared
that
that,
yes,
those
folks
approached
us
about
buying
that
property
we're
not
interested
because
of
the
cost
if
at
some
later
date
the
price
was
very
different,
which
I
doubt
in
downtown
asheville
will
be
the
case.
H
We
would
certainly
be
curious
about
this,
but
our
path
continues
to
be
45,
deeply,
affordable
apartments,
half
of
them
voucher
holders
on
that
.87
parcel,
which
is
the
bottom
two
lots
that
have
been
combined
for
the
piece
of
property
we're
under
contract
on
right
now.
So
no,
we
we
have
no
intention
at
this
point
to
pursue
that
adjacent
lot.
B
Hi
good
morning,
thank
you
council
for
hearing
me.
My
name
is
patty
torno.
I
am
the
treasurer
of
the
west
end
clingman
avenue,
neighborhood
association,
but
I
am
speaking
as
a
private
individual
weekend
is
divided
by
this
project.
I
personally
am
very
much
in
support
of
this
project
have
been
to
every
public
meeting
that
brian
combs
has
had
with
the
neighborhood
feel
very
confident
in
their
transparency
and
they're,
informing
the
neighborhood
I
have
been.
B
You
know.
I
I
own
curve
studios
down
in
the
river
arts
district
and
have
been
on
the
weekend
board
for
about
18
years.
Weekend
was
basically
formed
by
with
the
help
of
mountain
housing
opportunities
and
as
a
result,
we
like
affordable
housing
in
this
neighborhood
it
because
downtown
has
gotten
so
fancy.
Our
neighborhood
is
definitely
experiencing
much
a
lot
of
much
higher-end
housing,
and
so
I
feel
really
strongly
that
having
some
more
affordable,
deeply
affordable
housing
would
really
help
maintain
a
balance,
and
we
can
that
I
fear
we
may
be
losing.
B
I
also
think
that
it's
a
nice
it
it's
an
interesting
parcel
that
particular
parcel
has
been
on
the
market
for
a
number
of
years
and
no
one
has
chosen
to
buy
it,
it
overlooks
I-240
and
it
it
has
its
own
challenges.
So
I
think
that
with
the
right
the
right
project,
I
think
it
really
would
be
an
asset
for
our
neighborhood.
I
think
it
would
bring
some
more
families
into
the
neighborhood,
which
I
would
I
would
like
to
support.
B
I
think
it
would
just
continue
a
really
good
mix
and
we
can
that
I
fear
we
would
lose
otherwise.
So
I
also
will
say
there
are
you.
You
probably
have
heard
I'm
just
saying
there
are.
There
are
numerous
neighbors
who
are
also
in
support
of
this
project.
So
there
are,
there
are
people
for
it
and
there
are
definitely
people
against
it,
but
there
are
numerous
of
both.
B
Thank
you.
My
name
is
sue
grace
crocus
and
I'm
in
the
process
of
moving
my
mixed
race,
family
to
asheville
and
we're
coming
from
wisconsin,
and
we
are
a
literal,
conquistador,
spanish,
guatemalan,
mayan
mixed
family
and
they've,
been
rather
confused
in
wisconsin
as
to
how
to
mark
us
down
racially
because
we
don't
really
fit
in
any
of
the
boxes
that
they
have.
So
when
I
was
hearing
the
discussion
previously
about
how
you
are
tracking
certain
groups
that
are
getting
vouchers.
B
Luckily,
we
will
not
be
needing
one,
but
I
am
concerned
about
how
things
are
tracked
in
asheville,
for
for
a
variety
of
things.
You
know
given
our
mixed-race
status
and
how
I
don't
see
a
lot
of
latin
or
indigenous
indian
groups
being
represented
on
the
council
and
other
places.
So
this
is
just
more
of
a
general
question
as
to
how
that
is
addressed.
Thank
you.
B
B
B
Thank
you
caller.
You
may
discuss
that
at
the
end
and
you
get
some
more
public
comments.
J
Hi,
this
is
luella
heather,
I'm
not
sure.
If
I'm
on.
I
B
J
Hear
you,
but
I'm
not
okay,
I
am
a
long-time
resident
of
we
can
and
I'm
opposed
to
this
project
as
it
is
being
put
out.
I'm
not
opposed
to
affordable
housing
as
you
as
anybody
knows.
We
can.
We
have
worked
with
mountain
housing
and
other
entities,
but
still
won
the
habitats
for
humanity
houses,
so
I'm
not
opposed
to
that.
J
But
what
I
do
want
to
address,
particularly
this
day,
is
that
naturally,
this
project,
but
the
whole
approach
of
the
way
this
thing's
come
about,
has
not
considered
the
work
that
the
weekend
neighborhood
has
done
with
the
city
of
asheville
over
over
a
year
since
we
started
the
weekend
group,
you
know
back
in
the
90s,
you
know
there's
a
weekend
master
plan.
There
was
a
weekend
charette,
there's
the
weekend
2010
plan
and
that
particular
site.
J
J
The
person
that
bought
that
property
went
before
whoever
they
had
to
go
before
and
got
it
rezoned.
Even
though
there
was
opposition
from
our
board
got
a
rezone
to
commercial
business,
one
which
allows
20
units
per
acre
or
40
units
per
acre
with
the
20
affordability.
J
Now
in
2021,
we've
got
the
haywood
community
development
corporation
coming
to
to
build
on
this
property
and
want
to
conditionally
use
zoning,
because
the
building
footprint
and
the
total
square
footage
exceed
the
allowance,
and
also
the
number
of
units
exceeds
the
that
particular
40
acres
plus
with
20
affordability.
So
now
we
want
a
building
that
is
100
affordability
at
a
larger
footprint,
with
more
units
and
with,
I
think,
it's
height
restrictions,
I'm
not
sure,
but
anyway
exceeds
building
footprint
and
total
square
footage.
J
I've
heard
today
anywhere
from
exceeding
the
40
unit
number
42
to
45
units,
and
I
heard
sitting
on
0.83
acres
or
0.87
acres.
So
there's
it's
not
clear
exactly
what
we're
looking
at
here,
but
all
I
hear
is
more
and
more
and
more
density,
and
I'm
really
you
know
I'm
sad
and
offended
today,
but
the
the
neighbor,
the
city
did
not
consider
the
2010
plan
that
the
city
participated
with
us
on
to
develop
what
would
happen
in
this
end
of
town?
I
have
lived
here
30
some
years
my
husband's
lived
here
37
years.
J
I
worked
two
doors
up
from
the
haywood
street
community
tour
church.
I
walk
this
neighborhood.
I
walk
to
work
all
the
time
and
there
have
been
numerous
problems
that
come
out
of
the
church.
I
was
here
before
the
hayward
street
community
church
was
being
used
as
it's
currently
being
used,
and
I
can
tell
you
the
the
community
responsibility
that
the
members
of
the
church
say
that
you
know
that
anybody
is
welcome
with
no
responsibility
on
their
part,
has
definitely
impacted
businesses
and
has
impacted
homeowners.
B
Thank
you
and
thank
you
caller.
It
sounds
like
if
you
worked
for
what
just
happened.
You
hit
the
three-minute
mark,
but
we
appreciate
you
calling
in
and
sharing
your
input,
and
that
is
it
for
the
public
comment,
except
for
the
emails
that
you
did
receive.
Fellow
councilwoman,
any
other
questions
or
comments,
and
if
none
may
I
get
a
motion.
B
B
Okay,
vice
mayor
smith,
hi,
councilwoman,
mosley,
aye,
myself,
sage
turner,
aye
motion
carry
thank
you
for
being
with
us
today,
brian
and
ward.
We
appreciate
your
time.
Okay.
That
concludes
item
number
five
on
our
agenda
and
next
up
we
have
item
number
six,
which
is
public
comment.
I
believe
we
had
the
one
woman
we
just
heard.
Who
was,
I
think,
trying
to
make
a
public
comment
generally?
Do
we
have
any
other
callers,
bryson.
B
B
My
understanding
is
this
is
your
last
last
hcd
meeting,
so
we
have
with
us
your
kathy
ball
assistant
city
manager,
who
is
moving
on
to
a
new
position
in
tennessee.
This
will
be
her
last
time
joining
us
on
hcd.
She
has
been
a
tremendous
resource
not
only
to
the
city
but
to
this
particular
crew
and
this
committee
for
many,
and
we
just
wanted
to
express
our
gratitude
and
how
different
it
will
be
and
how
much
we
will
miss
you
next
month.
D
Thank
you
all.
I
will
be
thinking
of
y'all
in
spirit
and
loving
you
all
from
afar.
This
community
is
ingrained
in
me
and
I
will
carry
with
me
everywhere.
I
go,
y'all
are
doing
great
work
and
I
appreciate
your
patience
with
me
and
I'm
very
thankful
for
every
one
of
you
all.