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From YouTube: AsyncAPI SIG meeting 20 (March 31, 2020)

Description

This is the recording for the AsyncAPI Special Interest Group (SIG) meeting #20.

Attendees:

- Emmelyn Wang

- Fran Méndez
- Jeff Bruns

- Jonas Lagoni

- Jonathan Schabowsky

- Łukasz Gornicki
- Manik Magar

- Marc DiPasquale
- Nabheet Madan

Moderation:
- Fran Méndez
- Łukasz Gornicki

Agenda & Notes:
https://github.com/asyncapi/asyncapi/issues/356

Chat Dump:
18:14:35 From Fran Méndez : https://github.com/asyncapi/raml-dt-schema-parser/
18:19:17 From Jonas Lagoni : I have a question whenever we run out of things to talk about if we have time :)
18:30:16 From Jeff Bruns : Got to run guys. Excited to learn more about async API and how it might help us document our messaging platform. See you next time!
18:32:41 From Fran Méndez : /{myQueueName}
18:33:51 From Fran Méndez : https://github.com/asyncapi/bindings/tree/master/amqp#fixed-fields
18:35:09 From Manik Magar : channels:
queues/{queueId}:
bindings:
18:35:37 From Fran Méndez : channels: queues/{queueId}: parameters:
18:36:08 From Fran Méndez : https://www.asyncapi.com/docs/specifications/2.0.0/#channelItemObject
18:37:30 From Fran Méndez : This is the conference: https://stayathomeconf.com/
18:50:34 From Emmelyn Wang : I saw Lukas Rosenstock shared the @EveryTimeZone to help optimize global zoom events
18:54:51 From Marc DiPasquale : That’s pretty cool!
18:54:56 From Marc DiPasquale : Thanks Emmelyn

A

I mean some based integration, so I did took I, think API on test drive for one of my internal project.

A

I couldn't get it working with the ramen following us, Blagh Blagh friend, but I think I was able to get it with the open API, so it works so I'm gonna continue with it and probably explore more how we can use that within the mill, soft integrations or other I think communication that happens between the new soft and other other other technologies right so happy to be here and looking forward to like explore it more and more about it.

B

Thank you yeah, just a quick answer, so we recently added support for data types yeah we can. We can spend some time on this light. Everyone thank.

C

B

Emily may be alright.

D

I hope my sound is okay, yeah I'm having another off my phone, so I'm, Emmeline and part of a group of women women in api's and a couple years ago, I really wanted to join an open source. Community and I got to go to my first cube con and cloud native con, but that was kind of intimidating.

D

For me you know that's such a huge community, and so this particular one was very welcoming Thank You, fron and everyone, and back in the day, I was also part of the working groups for ramble and open API when they were kind of having their. You know piano, piano, dueling battles, if you will right to see which one would kind of mature, faster, I, suppose and so I found out that async cake, guys the sister spec and that got me really excited and had been working on product teams that that build api's.

D

For you know different stakeholders and now I work for ax way and I'm an API, strategist and I'm. So incredibly, excited that you know. Recently we adopted the async API spec, so Allen, Denise and Erik harassed me. They were part of stream data which we acquired and so Allen and I. You know worked together on that and we continue to explore it and really appreciate this group and I'm based on Texas. Thank you.

B

That was great Emily thanks by the way I'm based in Barcelona I didn't mentioned it so mark and Jonathan. Maybe.

C

Yeah sure I'll go so my name is Mark DiPasquale and I'm. A developer advocate over at solace, Sol solace, has been kind of part of this Aysen get beyond ishutin for the year, a little bit more, maybe, and so you know, we've been supporting ASIC API initiative and helping build the frames cloud stream code generator and we're actually having a new part that we're rolling out now called order.

C

That portal, and one of the features of the event portal is to be able to export an async API specification and from there, of course, on completed code generation and make this whole and driven journey.

E

C

For people trying to build real time, applications and systems in general I mean I'm joined by Jonathan on the call I think he's on and he's.

F

C

Seos office on I'll, let you introduce yourself normally well.

F

Yeah they're just going to give a brief intro. So yeah and Jonathan I've worked closely with Fran for yeah well over a year now, not a Salt Lake, City, Utah and work in the CEOs office. That's Hollis and.

C

I'm out of Orlando Florida, actually not to mention that.

B

So thanks guys baby generous next, yes,.

G

Sure so yeah I'm Jonas I'm, based from Denmark and I, just tell about nan, then when I have time free time from the study and so yeah.

B

So yeah so Jonas is a very shy to mention that he is a responsible for mass of the pull requests for the last two months or three months. Actually a bit more, but yeah has been pushing really hard, except during the excellence period which I'm happy that he was respecting this this time.

B

So finish, University first, so we see- maybe it maybe we were we were introducing ourselves. Maybe you kill yourself well.

H

Hi everyone: this is no beat.

E

And this is my first.

H

Time attending this meeting, I am primarily a CPU technical drive and have been working in different, basically technologies for the last 14 years, or so so. I heard about the same KPI on later and that katli here and I'm looking forward to contribute in whatever way. I can.

B

So Lucas, how is your audio going? I think it's more real time now right, because your reaction, yeah.

I

Yeah yeah yeah, it's it's I thought were I change. The room and I told my kids to switch off to turn off the Netflix. So it's got better.

J

I

Can also tell a bit about myself.

J

I

Yeah I'm I'm working from now full-time maintainer and doing some other activities around API, previously work with us and API, but in a company that was using custom, API AP I used it in one of the kubernetes solutions.

I

Yeah, but I got too close to this back and the community and got sucked in yeah. So that's my intro, and if it comes to the meeting and the agenda, we have actually won the most important item on the agenda. Did you wanted to say something from cuz? You showed the finger.

B

I

So it's there's only one, no one from the community added but of course feel free to jump in with your topics so and I think I mean you're the most important here, not us. So if you have anything you would like to handle now I think we can talk about the I think API conference after your questions or your topics that you want to mention. So is there anything else you'd like to talk to about today.

A

If no one has anything probably what Fran mentioned, there's some updates for the Rama. If, if we could touch on that, if there is nothing else, I would love to hear that Rama's or like how it fits in there.

B

Yes recently, let me try to find the package.

B

I'm gonna share it here.

B

My screen, it's gonna, be easier. I will share the link as well.

B

So you can all see my screen right. Yeah.

A

I can see I, don't.

B

Know why we keep asking this it's just like you can see my screen.

E

B

You can see it. It's telling me that you will see it.

B

It never happened to me that in a meeting I asked days and people tell me now Fran we cannot see your screen is a link on the chat again Thanks.

B

So yes, so we created these schema parcel for ramen data types. Have you seen this before.

A

Not the rommel part, I think when I used. Probably I either this wasn't there or maybe I missed it, so I couldn't just yeah. That's the part like Graham was not there and when I added I was trying to use Yousuf as like a winter in there, the parser did not recognize that so I end up just removing it and follow the regular open, API data types there. Okay.

B

So yes, so you know we working closely with Mills up because I mean and that's the day. They are also one of the sponsors. So but you probably don't know the people that were working with because you're such a huge company.

A

Just just to make it here, I, don't work for me. Soft.

J

A

I am a consultant for a vo consulting which is a consulting firm but architect, working on purely based integrations, okay,.

B

So yeah, so here you can find an example of a sync API document.

B

There are more examples in the Whitney, but briefly you can specify the payload this part here. If you notice this is rummel syntax. This is very similar to just a scheme out there, but it's not and that's the way you use it right. You have to specify there the schema former that you're gonna use. It is applications. Last phragmoplast, ya, know in this case.

E

B

You can reference an existing rumble file right, that's! Okay! That's.

A

B

That's how you do it aside from that the theory says that everything to work the same all right, like that's a really recent package, so let us know if you use it, let us know if it's failing or if it's working well trigger it to work. Well behind the thing. What it's doing is its transforming Randall application schema.

B

So there are certain things that cannot be translated, but most of it is is, is is compatible right and yeah just to make it clear that it's not compatible with the browser, because the rest of the data, the rest of the schema parsers like the opening k1, is the schema that the default one right there all browser compatible. So aside from that, that's the only problem or captured is this package has okay, yeah Sarika.

A

When you said browser compatible, is it like with open api, I was able to run the generator we generated a nice HTML site for me to share with my team. Okay. This is these. Are the specs? You can just go and look at it. Yes for rommel. It won't do that like it, won't generate the HTML good site about explaining everything. Yes,.

B

The parts of this part is I said this is a plug-in for the parser. Let me.

B

My screen, so we have a parser right which should be link it here by the way. It's it's indeed a parser, and this package is a it's a plugin for the for this incubator parser. But okay,.

A

B

B

Reverb, the parser, you will see that you can use the parser yourself without the parser is not for generating anything. It's just to read the icing, keep a file and get a validated object in in this case, in JavaScript right, okay, you'll get.

B

You can parse the document that can be in line or from the file, and then you get an object which you can, which you can explore better right, like you can explore info title or get channels, there's a there's, a bunch of things that you can do and and by the way the schemas are references here. So you can also find them here. Okay,.

I

B

Yeah and if you want to know more about what you can do with the parser, it's here, you have the documentation here. So all the.

H

B

Here, ok, so what I were when I was saying that it's not browser compatible? It means you will not be able to do that in a browser. You know: ok, this code, here this parcel dot parse using the the previews, the bramble data type person.

B

You will not be able to do that in a browser right because it's realized and some libraries that are not browser compatible. So that's that's why!

B

But if you, if you use that generator, which is the package that we use so this package, the generator is the one that we use for generating HTML markdown code in different languages. Yeah. If you use this, you will be fine. You should be able to you to use Dremel and get an HTML documentation to share with your team.

B

A

And the last thing, sorry, probably one minor question: last time: I checked there wasn't anything which could generate any anything related to MU soft code right and like I know, Java code can be generated and all that, but nothing for meals or paste integration. Is that still true? What do you mean by Bach.

C

K

A

I, don't know it's probably not for this, then maybe we can take it off, it's just a generator. It could generate a Java code like a bootstrap and all that kind of core and it's living off. Maybe I thought for this disco. Okay,.

B

We can discuss this yeah I. Think it's gonna be yeah. Thank you, so yeah. Anyone else wants to.

I

Ask questions Yanis, don't be shy.

G

So, in regards to now that we separated the templates into repositories, are there way that we should version eyes these templates, in contrast to the generator? That's.

B

A good question, so I was wondering this the other day that we saw mark somehow the the templates.

B

So yeah so, which will mark the template somehow to indicate which version or versions or until which version of the generator this template is compatible with right right now, we didn't think anything yet because you know that we are in the process of making making the generator stable, and that includes the templates as well, so we're in the process of dinner of releasing version one of the generator once we have it, I think we can, or even we can already start thinking about it like maybe could be a.

B

Field on the package Asian or in the config object. So it's like this, like.

G

Yeah cuz, the tricky thing is that if, if I example wanted to just use the major versions to to reflect which generator version it's for, we can also have major changes for the templates themself and then you kind of screwed some. How.

G

Would you mean you know, for example, we could, for example, use the major version number for the major version number of the template, because those two kind of have to overlap somehow. Okay,.

B

So you mean that to have the major number to be the same above like that, but.

G

Then you just get the problem about. When you introduce breaking changes for the templates themselves, then you have to do a major version change, but you can't because the generator hasn't yes.

B

And, and also because I mean that might work for our templates, but people can also create their templates, even if they don't share it, and they should not be aware of this. Rule may be right exactly so.

B

Yeah I'm, not sure. If, if that will be, the world will be the best idea here, something there.

E

I think you can.

I

Yeah yeah, so I, don't think you can do it differently than just a kind of metadata in a package Jason, because that that would be the best because during the installation, you could always fetch this information and tell the user okay you're trying to use a a template that is not compatible with this version and that's it, and that would be the safest I.

B

Have this idea of the probably templates could be self installing right, so you don't start by telling the generator I want this template to be installed or to be generated. I go to the template. I only download the template and the template will have the generator as a dependency right.

B

So that might work if you think about it like and the template will have the generator version that it is compatible with.

B

You know what I mean, so you forget about the generator you just just run a command on on the template like npm run, generate whatever, and and that will trigger the same as calling the generator with this template, but it will install the proper version of generator. So that's like changing a little bit that perspective. Maybe we could have both like we could have to field plus the self installable or self yeah soft install good template.

B

If you want or self generating template that- and some people don't have to bother with with generate depressions right and also if you want to use the generator or front the generator perspective, you can still, you can still have the field and do this matching that we were discussing the beginning right, like that, we were saying in the beginning that you you get this metadata from the from the configuration file and just so I'm, never saying that this template is not compatible with your generator version right. Something like this.

B

You either have to upgrade or downgrade generator depends on what's happening. Something like this that that will work.

B

I mean having both or maybe just yeah I, don't know, I think I think we have two options and they're not really as mutually exclusive I think they we can use both, but yeah I'm also thinking a little bit forward. We're trying to think a little bit forward and from the perspective of we have a CLI tool like the the async API da CLI tool, where you type a sink API space generate write and that will use the generator behind the scenes and so that, from from that perspective,.

B

Well, from that perspective, actually it can be, can be anything, it can be, both can be the the metadata field and it can be their self instable template.

B

How does that sound.

G

Yeah, it sounds reasonable. It's just yeah something that, when the stable version of the generator comes out, it's just something that needs to be in place before.

B

For sure, so let me let me just create the negative EC, so we don't.

B

Sophie to continue yourself asking questions, and/or look as if you want to continue as well I'll be creating this in the meantime, no need to wait, for you know.

I

Do the deletion so do you have any other questions guys or are we jumping to the conference topic.

I

K

A

So the channels in the specification right channels are something for example, if we take example of em, qs channels would be, let's say my queue name right and when I'm defining that, and if I have a case where those channels are dynamically created, they are not static. Wherein, when I am writing that async a PS specification, I can give a name to that channel.

A

If I have that use case, does it support to have all variables are placeholders for channel names which I can explain later, for example, when I am defining the server in the URL or URL places, I can use placeholders and then parameters and then explain the meaning of parameter or how to get to that parameter. All that in URL can something like that Peter and for channels also, because if I put a static value there, then it all almost means like yeah.

A

There is gonna be that Q with that exact name, which is wrong because, like that, in that use case, the Q's are dynamically generated, even though the rest, everything applies to every dynamically generated Q, but the name is different. The channel name is gonna, be different. How do how can that kind of thing bit occur when I am giving in specification? Okay, guys this is the channel, but just remember the channel name is gonna be dynamic, but trust everything applies to every newly created channel.

A

Does that make sense question.

C

Can you guys hear me I think you're on new friend I'm.

B

A mute sir I was saying that Lukas is processing.

B

So yes I think so if I understood correctly, so you mean there, you don't want to map channels to to Q's, because if feels incorrect.

A

It doesn't feel incorrect. It's just a different use case, where the channels name that I am giving is not a static like, for example, if I have, let's say, invoice dot receive as an cue name, but that has some suffix, which gets dynamically added when the system creates a different cues for different services or different systems right and that dynamic is how can I give like kind of specifying the fake yeah.

B

And you never have like something static like the topic name or something like this. No.

A

That that whole topic name is dynamically clear. The.

C

Rest everything.

A

Is same like a message, structure and everything applies to every dynamically created topic. Okay,.

B

Okay, so I think I think I think the best way here will be to use a templated, so the channel parameter we have ever. If you have seen the channel parameters, so you can have on top in the chat. So you can have something like on the channel. You can have something I don't know. My cue.

B

You can have something like this and that's a variable because you don't know in advance the the value of this variable. This will actually be your channel right, the the name of the whole chapter and then, depending on the protocol that you use, if you use Kewpie, for instance- and you can use ink nqp binding and all they aim to be binding, you can specify that your name is actually auto-generated.

B

The name of the queue I mean that your name right, yeah and- and you can actually specify as well, that it's a queue. It's not the topic. Okay, you try to find it.

E

E

A

The channel name itself I, can use those parameters and explain those parameters as the dynamic Wednesday. Okay.

B

Yeah and there you and there you have also the bindings that I was mentioning so, for instance, if you, if your username QP, you can say that this channel is, is aq or it's a real kinky depending on the dependi in this case is saying QP always and the Q name. Is this one or I? Don't know the Q name, so you leave it empty and because you leave it empty, it's like pool house right, and then you have all these details that you usually have when programming for AMQP. That's it.

B

If you have the same problem with another protocol or al provider, then you have to define the same things for the different binding. For instance, you have the same, I mean not the case, I think entity, but I, don't know JMS, for instance, if you use in JMS, you can probably also leave it empty and the name will be empty. So as a way to say that this is going to be the name of my queue and I. Don't know it right. Okay,.

A

I'm, just taking from the same link that you posted there and it says channels user signed up and binding. So instead of that channels, queues and q ID so that q ID will be a parameter in my channel name. Is that what you're around okay then explain the q ID there correct.

B

But before we enter into bindings, you have this meters object.

B

Anyway, so you can have parameters.

B

Try to find it on the spag.

A

B

Just in case in case, anyone else is interested, or even afterwards in the recording. They want to have a look at it. There. You have a parameters, object where you specify this qib right. You can put restrictions on the name, but it can only be a number or it can only be a number from 10 to 20 or whatever.

B

H

B

And this schema can be adjusted schema soon, so yeah.

K

I

Can you hear me yes,.

I

Okay, it's time to talk about the conference, I think so a few words of intro yeah. We had quick discussion with Fran and if on Monday about this idea, I think Fran from some other conference that was doing an online event, which was pretty nifty. They organized it pretty well with Mozilla and YouTube, which looks interesting and we said like yeah. Well, why not? Try it with passing API I would have already big enough community many speakers and that talk about asking eBay on different conferences. So maybe they could prepare some content.

I

That's why we picked you yesterday about the topic and today we should discuss it in details if it comes to dates and and the length of the talk when I take a look on the calendar. I think that because of the Easter time, which is 13th, 14th, I, think of April, we should not organize it sooner than something around 21st or 22nd of April, which is a week after Easter, because its third time, it's always I, mean I, wanted to say it's travel time not these days, but still it's a it's a special time.

I

I think that's untouchable. I would say: that's why I suggest 21st 22nd 23rd something around, but it's just a suggestion and it's from wrote I think it was an answer to mark. If it comes to the length of the talk, especially for the online talk, 30 minutes is probably probably enough.

I

What depends on the on the submissions at the end, I think we would be pretty open here to get first submissions and proposals and see what people are also proposing but yeah. What do you think about? First of all, the date, that's the most important I think.

C

You're suggesting the 21st of April.

I

Probably Wednesday 22nd, because I think it's always proofed on any diagrams that Wednesday's the most productive and people are on most awake on Wednesdays.

B

So the the other conference that we were mentioning was run on Sunday, because some people still have to go work somewhere, like offices and all the stuff. So and so, for instance, imagine that you are at home working at home and you could be on Wednesday attending the conference, the online conference, but your partner is out working somewhere and you're with the kids right Sunday in Sunday. You don't have this problem again because because of the confinement right, people don't have other stuff to do so. They're not gonna, go anywhere.

B

So that's that's why? One of the reasons people are organizing this in Sundays, so everybody is as its at home, especially in this new situation. Right.

B

So just I'm not saying it should be on Sunday, but I'm, saying that we should take this into account because.

B

Some people that still have to go out to work and probably on 21st, most probably in 21st in Spain, we will be already.

B

We will be already like gang back to work slowly so Spain in and some parts of Europe. So so yeah like it will be yeah.

C

I mean I I get what you're saying on Sunday I, just prefer I, think it being during the week. I think that's when people are used to working in light tune in if they are at the office, because if they were going into the office still then, when they're at home on the weekend, they might not want to work right, not not. To mention I prefer to take sunday off.

B

Just mention, let's say it would be on Sunday, but to take these things into account, maybe so watching the conference is not a problem, but speaking will be a problem if you have to take care of your kids at the same time, and you are along at home, right depends on how your kids are, of course, if they're wild its, you have basement.

I

That's easy to solve.

A

It could happen like you can see why I'm in Kate's room, because kids took over my workplace, yeah.

J

A

The other question would be for conference how long we think it would be like a half-day full-day or how many hours right based on that also it could be. It could matter whether workday is fine or it's. This weekend is fine right. If it is gonna, be like a full day. Even is it possible to have a full day during the workweek? All that questions right.

B

Yeah I think in my mind, it's like, like a regular conference, so you start not very early in the morning in Europe. Otherwise, people in the US will will miss a lot of folks. So we should start probably here at around 10:00 p.m. I, think the answer so so yeah I, please that people on the New, York, City time zones and around can start waking up at 12:00 here or 1 p.m. here.

B

So just sorry, I'm just like explain this for my time zone because I, don't that's what that's what I know, what I know right so so yeah if we start like 10:10 a.m. here until 12:00 like 2 hours in two hours, people from from the East Coast will start waking up and then in to our two or three hours after people from the West Coast will start waking up right. So so.

A

I mean time zone or the time deciding time is always difficult, because III host virtual meetups for MU soft, all the virtual ones and times I always have trouble with time zone, because people I cannot find a good time that works for everyone. So what I usually I have one coming up tomorrow: Oh noon time est noon. Esp is the best time so far, I see works for holiest as well as like part of India part of Asia, and so it is difficult. I, don't think that.

B

Everyone I'm just trying to minimize the the range of hours.

B

So if we Center, if we Center the the the things on Europe and not because we're in Europe, but because you know if we start from Australia to West Coast, the United States, for instance, Hebron Europe- is in the middle right, Europe and West and West Asia, and so so yeah.

B

So I was thinking that maybe if we Center the program there, of course some people will lose one part and some other people lose the other part at the beginning or at the end, depending on where you are right, especially so, for instance, in the case of Australia, people will lose the last ones because it's so light for them and for and for the US they will lose the first ones right, but yeah. We can make it perfect here, but it's gonna be recorded.

B

So if you want to watch the tall, you can watch it on YouTube the day after right. You can probably not answer questions or ask questions, but we can do like a questions like an async questions and answer for insult right. So you can leave your questions somewhere and then the authors, the speakers, will, will answer the questions the day after or the week after.

B

That could be interesting as well like offline questions right if.

A

It could be, it could be slack also only conference specific, like create a channel for conference and just tag. Your tag, your session, that you have question about.

A

A

The recording is always excuse. That's what I.

B

I'm not so worried about people watching. The conference is more about speaking right because, if you don't I mean most probably you're, not gonna, watch all the thoughts of the conference in a row. You're, probably just gonna, skip most of them. It just we'll just listen to the ones that you are interested or even in in the next days. You'll pick some ones and just jump to whenever you want to go right, but but speaking is a different thing right speaking, you have to be there at the same time right. You cannot postpone this.

H

B

Yeah I think that will be I, think that will be the only restriction right like having the time zone that will suite, for instance, we can have in the early morning. If someone is from Australia can be one of the first to speak right just so they don't. They don't start it'll stay until very late, and if someone is from the u.s. can be there one of the nights. The last wants to speak right, so so yeah we can get that depending on the time zone. So everybody's fine.

B

So that's time, so we got into time zones I think we can be very flexible here. Also on the length of the talks, we can be very flexible. As I said yesterday on the channel, we thought we only have a track, sir heads. If someone wants to take 40 minutes, it's fine, of course, if you communicate it beforehand, this is much better than saying I'm gonna take 30 minutes, and then you take 1 hour or if you just want to do a small demo that will take you 15 minutes.

B

That's fine as well like we can probably stick something in in the middle that will be short and that will work as well. I think yeah we're pretty flexible here, because we don't have the constraint. We need the room for someone else right because I'm new or because we need to make things align things between different groups or we don't have this problem, sir.

B

So yeah yeah as long as their schedules, clear I, think it's fine.

I

So, basically, to summarize the times film at the end also depends on the proposal. Submissions, where the speakers are forum at the end, because if most of the speakers will be from us, then probably the best time to start it's after lunch or something like this. So the.

B

Length of the conference right if we have less or 7 hours of talks, we have to start earlier right. Otherwise, it's gonna, be it's gonna get super late with the conference. Yeah.

C

B

The length also matters so.

C

In regards to the the talk titles, I mean: what are you looking for here friend? Are you looking to hear about, like all the different places that async API is being used and how it's being used, or just anything as long as it's related async API.

B

Let's have fun, I mean you tell us, it tells the content if it's related to using KPI or event-driven architectures much better right. So if you have a cool product demo, wink wink that.

B

Or if you have a new library as well that you want to show as well or, for instance, there is a lot better as a guy from Argentina did a really cool experiment with MQTT and Arduino, and using using async API and at the code generator. The note generator and that's I think that's also a cool talk like I told him like I. Think this. This will be great.

B

Like you, do a demo live demo of how your your gadget is actually working right, yeah, I, think that will be great, and then you tell Spears and.

B

Does it make sense yeah.

C

B

So yeah I said I think in my head. What I imagined was most. That was mostly for fun right, like we're, not gonna make any profit here. We're not gonna we're not gonna get super serious is the first time. So it's and it's like it's gonna, be like in two weeks or three weeks or so yeah. We cannot get very serious here. Like super professionals, you cannot expect like only specific things about this or that, let's just gather together and have some some fun and yeah and share experiences whatever that means.

A

And I presume it will be streamed on the asking ApS YouTube channel right if.

B

I mean we haven't, decided the technical details yet, but but most probably will be broadcasted on the basic API Jeremy. That.

I

Sounds the most reasonable for social yeah and.

A

That's the most easiest way also to for people to attend it and without having to download something or do a setup just to see something right. Yeah.

B

E

B

We are really emma is already exploring the technical details on how to connect a zoom with.

B

A

It if, if you need any help, let me know because I do it for mute. We will sort virtual meetups right. That's what Commons.

I

A

Until last time, I used to use light stream to stream to the YouTube for tomorrow's one. I am switching to using zoom for the speaker and myself like a host. We too will be on the zoom, but you will be streaming on. Virtual mule is a YouTube channel where so.

B

That makes sense, I mean that makes total sense and thanks for offering help and I think. The thing here is that we need to stream the video from the zoom cumference them. So in this, the way we met in this is we have the speaker at the host on the zoom Cole.

B

Yes, two people on the other cult right. This is 3 min to OBS and from obviously YouTube. Why the obvious step, if we can stream directly to YouTube from soon is because we want to have some so some in some moments we will have to princess given lunchtime so it's like this or if we do it lunchtime right since it's a distributed conference, it's just gonna be weird, but if we do like like break or something like this 15 minutes, you might want to have a countdown things like this right and or or frame.

B

You want to have a frame with the levels of the sponsor is, like you know, and or next toe is gonna, be whoever right. You want to do these kind of things like professional TVs,.

A

With the static YouTube channel link, you can do you can do this, I never used OBS. So I, don't know how that part works, but the study youtube link, for example, youtube.com, slash, slash virtually slash life. That is the always static link. All my audience and all our events have as the target.

A

So people always go on that link and every time I create a new zoom meeting or anything it streams to that same thing and that link that can keep showing whatever you want it to show I mean I'm just trying to I'm just putting out my setup or how do I do it, I, never used OBS and all that. So maybe.

B

A

Use a simple I: keep it simple, because it's just like a conference, it's one event.

B

And also so the guys who organized is stay at home. Come there from Barcelona. That's why I need about it so like how they did it, but but yeah they even might offer help so yeah I know some of them so yeah. So we should be fine like in regards to technology. We should be, we should be fine. Like is there any engineer in the room, I.

A

Think the important question would be to find content and yeah.

B

Definitely so this is right now we will have to do some manual work of sending emails and sending messages to people wanting to submit some content or that we won did anticipate some content, so yeah yeah.

A

This is first time right for us, so I, don't know how, for the full conference set up, we could get and all that right. You like, for example, call for papers CFP saying that is like a full-blown real, no I, don't mean to yell or I mean like established conferences, which they follow. The process right.

B

It must it must be easier here, like it's gonna, be like three weeks. We don't have time for that right. It's like we have to reach out to people directly or people directly to ask as quickly as possible. If we get I, don't know like 10 to 12 speakers.

B

A

Get out first and then optimize.

B

B

So yeah we can probably run another one later this year, but.

B

Once this current crisis is gone, most people will not want to attend a conference. There will be.

E

D

Also good that way, people don't overthink it I think. That's another reason why it's good to say: hey, we have enough community and all that knowledge we can come together and share it. Yeah.

B

True, that's very true, and and and before I was I'm, saying that it's it's probably going to be hard to have a lunch time because it's distributed, but we can have three or four lifetimes.

L

That's the other, that's the other way, I've seen this perspective.

I

We can have a joint cooking session during the lesson.

L

So today we are lucky.

L

F

Can get behind Polish pierogies? Oh sorry, I said I can get behind Polish pierogies as it as another polish guy decades ago.

D

Not actually kind of interesting, if we actually you know after the conference, then we find success. You know, maybe you could find a way to mix in food in a sink API right, cuz, we're all in different areas and we have different kinds of food I, think that would be kind of injury. Have you heard of procrastinate.

L

I'm actually going to challenge you a little bit more. What about during the.

B

Conference so we have a section during the conference someone's cooking, so we have a session about this in KPI or some systems about async, API and some session in the middle about just cooking. So we have someone showing us how to cook something we have like one or two.

J

Cooking sessions yeah.

D

Like one of my girlfriends knows how to make really amazing tamales.

J

B

Will be will actually be the break instead of break. You have the you, have the cooking session right as.

I

Long as it's not parallel because they will take more most of the yours.

B

You know during these during this 30 minutes, break whoever or Lucas is gonna show us how to cook pasta. Sparky.

B

E

I

B

You can ask your kids to record you in the kitchen.

D

L

Yeah cool guys, alright.

B

There's other question just feel free to send send the questions and slack and we'll be happy to answer and I mean thanks for thanks for attending today, thanks for Union and that's you in I think.

I

All our sites, the next and just to summarize I, think the next step on our side is to kind of define a channel where people can send the call for papers, proposals yeah.

H

I

Give some deadlines, so we can start deciding on those time zones and everything yeah, so stay tuned for probably tomorrow.