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https://github.com/asyncapi/community/issues/645

A

Okay, I think we're live.

B

Okay, uh consignment.

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B

um Hey folks hi everyone good morning, hi um welcome to today's community meeting um I go by his and I will be your host today, again yeah, okay. So in today's community meeting uh we have a couple of things on the agenda uh proposed by Lee uh I'm gonna bring that up.

B

Hey Julie, how you doing good morning.

C

How are you doing.

B

Great to you, bye, there's nothing like waking up and hosting community.

C

I know right: it's still.

B

Too, but I love it.

C

Yeah gotta started it's.

A

10 a.m. Here so.

C

I'm still early.

B

It's nine yeah.

C

I mean I think it's winter I mean the day starts at eight yeah, it's winter, so the day starts around 8 A.M. So it feels like.

B

Cool, uh so let's get right into it, um so we have a couple of folks already joined. uh We have vocash, uh we have solely, we have uh sorry a can you pronounce your name. I, don't want to ruin it.

B

um It's Abhishek, Abhishek, okay, we have a big Shake in the room and we have Maya.

B

So before we get started, um we have some proposed stuff in the uh issue by actually uh so before we get into those ones. I just want to, like have say some stuff I have like in my own agenda.

B

um Firstly, we have receiving a huge ton of proposal for Google sum of code right, which is really interesting. uh A lot of people are interested in like Artisan kpi projects with some of code.

B

Is we actually have one of our projects, which is ADD Auto fix feature for common lensing errors, uh which is one of the project issues um I think the three days ago? uh Maybe on Friday, we didn't receive any proposal for the projects right and I was like I'm not interested in these projects, but I checked yesterday, and we only have like three: those are free projects and now all of our projects have received a couple of proposals, I think minimum of three, which is actually really interesting.

B

uh Now fingers crossed um we just uh praying and hoping we get enough slots allocated, To Us by Google and once that is done, I think yeah. We have super super ready good to go. So that's just an update on how the projects are doing on on Google sum of code um yeah.

B

So the next thing, which is uh the async API mentorship, so I, actually wanted us to like start receiving project proposal after the Google has announced the amount of slot you get, but now thinking about it, I don't think we should. We should do that right well, because Google is eventually going to uh announce. This result uh May thoughts right, which is next month just quite far right I also I was hoping.

B

Maybe it would be April well, unfortunately, it has to be made and I was thinking if we have to like wait till May 4th to kick start. um I am receiving uh projects from mentors uh or from folks from the community. I. Don't think that is okay, so um concerning that uh I would have to sync with Tuli.

B

uh We have to start planning and we just start accepting projects proposals uh this month. Don't have to wait for Google to um announce the amount of slots we get. So what will happen? Is this? So you can. You can share your opinion, but this is what I'm thinking right. So we have these projects on Google sum of code right, so we have five projects. Let's say we receive. We were able, or we were given for three slots- also slots right, which means we are going to have like three projects left. So I was thinking.

B

Should we automatically bring these projects to this incredible mentorship program? Right reason is because we already have so many interesting folks showing interest right. So so many interesting folks that have submitted that proposal, which eventually will be reviewed by these mentors, which means this mentors will get to select the right candidate for the project, so I was thinking instead of letting all this efforts, you know, go to waste, so why don't we automatically bring these projects into racing kpi mentorship progress, mentorship, which means, let's say we have three projects that didn't make it.

B

So we bring those three projects into this into my mentorship, so out of 10 slots that we are going to be uh using, for example, mentorship, then we already have three slots filled up from whatever projects that is coming from this from the Google summer of code projects. So I was thinking this. Do you think this? This should be the right way of of doing it, because I don't want all the effort to put into these projects. Doing this because should be put to waste if this project are not been selected.

C

Yeah, it makes sense so if Google accepts um three, then obviously we'll just take the two that are remaining from Google, then we put them into the mentorship program. Then we add, on top of that, makes sense.

B

A

Yes, I agree totally.

B

Why are you, why are you laughing right.

A

I am not laughing I'm. That's my face. Yes,.

D

It's just my face.

B

Okay, okay, make sense right if you, if you have um okay, yeah, of course,.

E

um I just want to ask like, uh for example, like group projects are not get selected and they are bring towards the async impairment, worship program. So if a student or didn't like submitted a proposal during the gsoc phase, so can he uh reapply to the async payment worship like a separate proposal?

E

Will it be accepted or not.

B

Okay, so if I get you correctly right, you mean, if you apply to Google some of code and you didn't get selected for the projects. Can you still apply to a single time, mentorship.

E

uh No, no no uh I was just saying, like I haven't, submitted my proposal to the gsoc, but can I apply it to the mentorship program.

B

Yeah, of course, this is, this is a different. This is a different program.

A

So just to understand so we now uh so now we have five proposals and.

B

A

We have a bunch of applications. Now we have three weeks to mentors. We don't have three weeks to rank and select um the best proposals yeah, and once that done, we still wait for Google to say how many slots we have yeah. Okay, so when we say moving those that will not make it for gsoc moving them to async API mentorship, it's moving them with everything. So the mentors and the elected.

B

A

So they don't have to apply again.

B

Yes, so we don't want the effort to be wasted, so the whole thing has been done. We just like move the entire stuff which it could be a mentorship.

C

Oh, what wait wait so. Are you saying that if the main teams that are selected and they don't get the slots at Google, will automatically um selected for the mentorship program right.

B

C

A

For these ideas that were not selected so like because, like last year for the mentorship we had 10 slots.

A

um So even if out of five two will not make it for G-Shock, then then we just have um let's say eight slots, plus the two ones that were moved. So there will be still eight separate ideas that people can apply to as as long as I understand right, yeah.

B

Correct you're right.

A

um uh Do you know if, if there's any Financial difference, um yeah.

B

Did they change anything? Is it still 1.5 yeah? It's still 1.5 yeah same amount, uh I think the only difference is I think based on some region. I think some regions are higher than 1.5, uh but Artisan kpi. We are not doing that. We are fixed 1.5.

D

B

Matter the region.

B

Any other question.

B

Okay cool, so the next thing on my agenda is actually the syncope, the async by conference websites, right yeah, of course, so I just want to make it public, because I was actually going to open a call with a Maya but um I think I. The way I intended on I have to like organize this stuff doesn't really make sense right. So I was actually thinking. Okay, having this code Maya and boarding Maya, and doing this with Maya and Maya days and Maya dots, so I was thinking.

B

I, don't think that is a rights route to go. I was thinking, I love him, so I was thinking. The best way is actually to involve other people from the community right. So what if so, Maya you have to like share your opinion right? What? If we make this up a Sync API conference website, we build it in public right, which means whatever call we are going to make. We have to like make it a public call, so anyone can join and share that opinion.

B

Like especially doing this design phase right because I might be I might be biased um when it comes to. Like making decisions but when other folks in the community are involved right, we get like here from a different point of view why we should go this route. Why would you go this route? Of course we don't have like.

B

Let's say we have, um we see I know then I don't have to like worry, because I don't have a few figure written out, but if we are going to have someone from the community uh design the conference website, so why not also involve the whole Community as a whole, probably study discussion and whenever we want to have a meeting, make it a public meeting, it doesn't have to be recorded right, so it could just be a normal meeting where we just share the zoom link on slack, then anyone can, um you know hop in and share one or two.

C

um Is it me or is just when it's a matrix.

A

Yeah I I lost everyone for a sec and now I see only you back. The.

C

Other okay, the rest of people, see you.

A

Somewhere in another dimension, you.

C

I see you I think Ace.

A

We're in the Multiverse.

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C

F

Has a poor, Network or something.

A

Richard from slack yeah.

E

Hi Lucas are very good: hey.

C

Yo Maya um I think it was s was asking something about the whole website design. What do you think.

F

Yeah good morning, excuse me: I, think he's going to be awesome. Yeah I'm, ready I just want to open a call with him, so we can discuss about this product.

F

Can you hear me hello.

A

D

A

Can hear you, but very um quite.

F

Okay I said yeah I'm happy to open it. Bro I still have to open a call with this, so we can discuss about them.

A

Hello is there anyone on the call.

E

I can hear you guys.

A

Okay, um I, so Maya I can hear you, but there's a lot of noise and when you speak and um also um like your voice is cutting a bit. Oh Ace is back I think so at least.

A

B

Thank you, Vietnamese.

A

Connectivity issues.

B

Oh, so all my power went out so, as I was saying right, um so I was thinking what, if so Maya. This is like a question to you. So are you comfortable enough? If we can try to uh build the conference websites in public like trying to involve um everyone in the community, or at least not everyone like folks interested from the community on how we decide to like, um probably design in and Implement um the the websites or you just one is or you or you are not comfortable.

B

You know through uh you know, do it in public.

F

Okay, that's fine when I say I have to have like a private meeting with you first step.

B

Okay, if you, if you feel comfortable you if no you didn't have to, if you are not comfortable doing it right, um I can actually try, or so what I can do is if you're not comfortable in having these public meetings. I can actually be an intermediary right. So whatever we have in private I can help you share it um in public, uh probably as a discussion.

B

So whatever you decide would make sense, because I just want it to be um I just want to make sure everyone in the community is involved in how we are intending to like go forward with the conversation sites. You know, probably if they have some feedback or some opinion on what to do then I guess it shouldn't make a lot of sense. So so also, if you're interested in helping out the conference website, uh so please feel free to reach out. We are see you in the early stage, which is a design phase.

B

uh If you have some design, Inspirations or you're, saying um some confirmed websites, you love and you would love to like share it with stars, feel free to send me the link right.

B

um So if you also like interested in contributing, um let me know reach out: uh we need contributors itself.

B

uh Any question any suggestion.

B

Anything that's the end with ciom.

B

D

B

So we're gonna go to the next thing on your agenda, which is possessed by truly um uh prior launch voice program, open Collective fund distribution and with contributors.

B

C

Yeah the flow is mine now.

B

C

All right so yeah I just want like to bring it to the community, so that I know what's going on so we're having a trial launch so far. The TSC members are voting on it, um we're having a trailer for The Bounty program where, like seven projects for the trial, so we have like four medium levels, tasks and three advanced level tasks. So from the four medium level task, it will be a mixture of like technical writing tasks and um design tests.

C

So we are adding like a bounty for the medium task at 200 for stats, then for the advanced one will be 400, so I just want like to let the company know that, as after the TSC members are voted and we have other projects, they can look forward to like the rollout of the um boundary program as well. So yeah I just wanted to let everyone know, like the progress, so also check out the issue as well to see how. How is it going where it started? And currently what is the progress as well.

B

I'm going to shoot a link on YouTube, oh wrongly,.

C

So if anybody has any questions um they can just so.

B

I I have a question: I have a question, so you were saying something about bouncy program and the the human giving us more details like what do I have to do to my participants in this. What do I have to do to get some Greek dollars.

C

I know everybody likes money, I love money anyway, okay, so for now, at the present moment, it's a trial. So we like I, said we're starting out with seven projects, so just see how it rolls out. So in order like to be interested in an issue like maybe there's an issue that you are interested in, we have like three categories that we have, so we will consider the first person like in async API maintainer for aaroni ripple.

C

Then, if there is no one interested in the issues like there's, no maintenance interested in the issue, we'll pick out a regular contributor. So if you have made like three pull requests or more- and you are still eligible, then the other, the maintainer, if we used to, we still don't find anybody who qualifies either a maintainer or a regular contributor, then who have to like pick up. Maybe the maintain I will like like pick up the criteria that they would like to pick the person for the issue. Maybe a regular volunteer.

C

Someone who passes between the community so yeah the maintainer will be the one who is like pick out the criteria. If there is nobody like a regular contributor or a maintainer interested in the issue,.

B

Yeah interesting so just to get you right right, so the maintenance are eligible to also like participate right. It is about to do it. Yes, so so the maintenance are like the first class citizens.

C

B

So then, if no maintainer picks up this issues, then the regular contributors can give it a shot right. So.

G

B

Before, before, a regular contributor can give it a shot, what do I have to like wait for a couple of weeks has picked it up or how do I know somebody that they're working on it, because, just like the regular GitHub um issues.

D

You know a lot.

B

Of folks say: I'm interested I'm interested I'm interested and you know, without pull requests. How do I know if someone is currently bouncing this bouncy program.

C

Okay, so um the first thing is: we have to know that you will qualify like to take up the issue like you have the skills. This is why we are limiting, at the present moment for a maintainer, a regular contributor right. So if we know that okay I'm, a technical writer I, got a technical issue, then if I maintainer does pick it up and say, okay I'm interested, then maybe Luca says he is also interested. Then look no.

B

C

Then obviously it falls to me, but also like the maintainer will be the one to determine like the skills, the criteria, so most of it will be up to the maintainers. Also to like pick out the criteria, but yeah I think it also works like the First Column festive is how we have been operating. The nursing API as well.

B

Okay, so there'll be like some tag and this issues just say: it's bounty.

G

B

Would there be some Target in this issue that say or some label that signifies if an issue is for Bounty? Yes,.

C

There will be tags like this is the Bounty issue, medium level and the price tag on it. Yes, definitely.

B

Nice streets, so I'm not interested, don't see me like I'm interested I'm, just curious okay. So these are. We have plans to also have Bounty um issues for design related issues.

C

Yes, we also like I, said on the medium tasks. There will be a mix of technical writing tests and design tasks, but for now we are limiting to seven projects as I start to see how it goes out and see if everybody is cooperating to increase the timeline to decrease uh it's just a trial so that we know that. Okay, if it works we put out the official, then we write the documentation of the requirements and everything and also just to make it out to make it clear.

C

If you pick up an issue, you have to make sure that you do the issue. Otherwise the penalty, that if you drop the issue in the middle of the week or if you don't like oh I'm interested, then it gets assigned to you, then you don't do it. Then you don't update or follow up like okay. Is there any work being done, then we'll assign it to the next person, but you won't be eligible to participate in the boundary program for a six-month period, so that is the permanency as well. Yes,.

B

There is a ban out there. Yes,.

C

There is a penalty.

B

Never knew it is.

D

B

Is no no I'm not saying they shouldn't be right, but should it be a penalty? Yes,.

C

There has to be because imagine like okay, we need to solve this issue right. We give you four to six weeks right then, in the middle of the second week you just drop the tasks. There's no explanation, there's nothing to say that the amount of time you're wasted for everybody and then now we need to also on board and aside the next person. So it's also time so you cannot pick it if you're not ready to commit. That's the thing! That's why the pill nutsy. Is there.

B

C

You understand what.

B

If I change my username or my profile picture.

C

Trust me I will know you, I'll be watching, I'll be watching each and everything I'll be watching everybody I.

B

Have to be a step ahead, yeah.

C

Trust me I'm I'll be five times ahead of you. No, we just making sure that people don't like take advantage of um The Bounty program or like we need serious people. The other people are really really desperate for the opportunity and they see another person who just wants to play around or just it's something. It's just a penalty.

C

I hope nobody cares and it's just something that has to be there and say: okay, if you drop an issue without an explanation without any credible explanation, or if you don't make any progress between the timeline, then that is your penalty. Six months, you're not participating in the Bounty program. We will see you in the unhappiest time that.

B

Is a lot of days six months.

A

Open sources slow, so six months will be like this.

B

F

Yeah, that's the question in the chat box.

B

Okay, your question is: what's the Bounty project, all about actually.

C

Okay, all right, so the boundary project is initiative. We would like to appreciate contributors, so it's not always about I know we sometimes we contribute for free, so it's us giving back to the contributors to the regular contributors for your time. So this is why the whole boundary boundary program is all about it's about giving back and appreciating the contributors um for their time as well. So we are trying as much as possible to say it's not all about free free, free free, but we also want to appreciate and say: hey. We recognize you.

C

We recognize your time. We recognize the dedication, so this is a small. It's just something that is small, that we say: hey. We love you. We appreciate you. We are not here to exploit you, but there's something you know.

A

But there's a penalty. Remember yes,.

C

There is a penalty you.

B

Don't love us if there's a penalty, there's no love.

C

There is a penalty involved, you can contribute anyhow, but just know you won't be eligible. If you fall under the penalty. I'm sorry it is what it is. No.

B

A

Mean it's still love, but it's conditional. Yes,.

B

Yes, so this is that is interesting. um I also like came across something and I wanted to confirm if it's still a thing, all right, so I I think there was a time during the discussion where someone mentioned uh the longer the issue, the higher the bounty.

D

C

Oh yes, yes, the longer the issue, the complex, the sorry, the complex, the issue they hired about so for Advanced Tax. They were certain weak life, eight weeks to complete it. So obviously the bound is higher. Then for medium tasks is you know you can complete it in um four to six weeks. There is a certain Bounty. It won't be the same as advanced or a expect level.

B

So I I have a question to me. So my question is how okay, of course, how do maintain us like uh evaluate these candidates to know if they are qualified to actually work on these issues, especially the the complex issues? Do you do you tell them to write a proposal?

B

Do you tell them to open a call with you or what, because, if you're going to be following the regular routes of folks like interested in issues, then I see no way how you can you know know if this particular person is actually um qualified to work on this issue.

C

Okay, this is why, like I said, this is why we are just limiting to the maintainer. So maintainers already know what they're doing right they've contributed to. They are in charge of setting reports. So definitely if they are to pick an issue, mind you. This is why also we put a penalty, you don't want to pick a issue that you're not qualified and then in the middle of the task. You say: okay, I'm, not able to do it anymore.

C

This is why I also added a penalty so that people who are not people who are greedy right, say: okay, no I'm, passionate, I'm gonna like totally I, go and discover spec, so it won't make sense. So this is another thing we limited to maintainers. We are limiting to people who have contributed like three pull requests and we can say: okay, yes, I have contributed to something similar.

C

Maya can contribute to design, and we know we have seen Maya's work. We have seen tools work, we know, Lucas is in charge of the of the spec report or we know Ace is.

F

In charge of everything.

C

Yes, so we know that okay, they are capable. So this is why it's very important to also like before saying we are interested. You know that you meet the requirements and also like the meeting I'll be like okay. I meet the requirements. These are the prerequests that I have mixed. These are the skill sets that I've also worked that I also possess. Then we take it from there does. That explains it.

B

Yeah yeah it does. That was thank you.

C

Otherwise, if we can issue that you know qualified end, then you don't deliver.

C

Unfortunately, you fall under the penalty. I think I need to emphasize this more I'm.

B

Gonna hop on a new GitHub accounts. I, don't like that artists.

C

I would know it's you Ace, don't worry! You.

B

Won't know: okay, uh the next scene on the agenda suggested by my uh by Julie, is the Madrid Edition for the conference, which is Comfort speakers.

G

B

Is it outside please, okay,.

C

So the cfps will be open on the 11th of April, so the website is out. You can go and check it out and see what are the requirements there? What is it all about, then, as soon as they open the opener I think meet?

C

Is it mid? Am oh, my God.

C

Utc, the conference will open.

B

C

Time zones, yes, so on the 11th of April, we will open the call for speakers, so yeah people can start submitting um for Madrid. You can click open and see what is it about? Who can submit it? All the types of talks, yeah.

B

I I have a question I.

D

Don't know why.

B

I'm asking questions. Trust me: I have a question so because, like we said, the recent kpi conference is right.

B

um So when, when you say the cfp is open, then I started wondering so what do you mean this safety is open? Are we like? Can people submit uh talks and say Hey I want to talk at this particular place else? They talk us to be a Singapore related.

B

Okay, interesting.

C

Okay, so yes, this is why I say everyone is welcome to apply as long you can make it important to Madrid or if you want to attend in person to Madrid, so it is. A mix of um talks can be either technical. If there's something that you want to bring value to the community like people, you need to bring value or something that you feel like is valuable to the community.

C

You can submit whether you're a beginner, whether you, if you want to submit a talk, you're welcome to, because this is why we are here as a community. We want to hear from you. We want to learn from you, so everybody can submit a talk as long as it's in prison.

B

Okay, but in the in the technical aspect, right.

G

B

It limited to event driven apis or apis as a whole or Can. I, submit a cfp and say I want to talk about reacts.

C

Okay, as long as related to a Sync API- and it can benefit the async API community, you will submit a talk. We don't want to talk about uh things that we don't benefit one benefits, so it won't make sense. So it has to be like something that is beneficial for the async API community.

B

Okay, so there's gonna be a category of stuff. You can submit.

G

B

I said: there's going to be a category like when you submit in this cfp that you can select well, probably if API is a synchronous, API is himself.

C

B

We don't have because if we don't have rights, then- and we say okay- we have this cfp open. Don't you think if folks can just start submitting um stuff that are related to apis in terms of technical aspects? uh Probably I could surveys um some stuff about next year's or as fast as technical right. You don't there's nowhere in the cfp. That is telling me it has to be API related.

C

Okay, this is why I also wrote everything is detailed. Only who can submit talk as long as it is related to a Sync, API and the community, and it can be beneficial to the community. Then your talk might be selected. The only thing that we don't want on the Madrid, especially on the Madrid Edition, is anything that is marketing or sells pitches or workshops. We're not accepting any workshops um for Madrid specifically, but any talk that is beneficial for the community related to using API and edas.

C

Then definitely you can submit it doesn't matter whether you want to talk about embedding reaction to the spec. It doesn't matter as long as this is related to a Sync API and benefits the community. You can shoot your shot.

B

I see something now: why do we have like under this section talks, we don't recommend? Why do we have workshops.

C

Will worships okay because of security reasons um from the venue? We are then allowing workshops for Madrid. We are not allowing any workshops. Yeah.

B

Sorry I think I need more details.

C

No, that is Jesus, it is.

C

For security reasons, yeah.

C

Lucas, can you help me.

A

I mean I'm, not I'm, not getting. Why he's confused and he doesn't get it um like.

F

A

Requires you to get access to network Etc.

B

A

C

Oh Ace did you wake up today and say: okay, I'm gonna frustrate this lady today.

A

um And um I'm gonna take a bucket and put.

G

Some Wi-Fi in.

E

A

Bucket and bring it with me too Madrid, yes, um I'd love to see that.

A

But yeah uh just remember using API on tour, it's different than using API conference that we had in previous years or we even planned last year.

A

um So we we depend on the venue that given companies ready to offer so this particular one could not offer place for workshops, but at least they can offer a a place for maybe two days, even depending on the acfp, um how it goes so so yeah.

B

Okay, no auctions copy that.

B

Sounds nope but I'll manage.

A

Well, okay, uh as you were, um I think you, you planned to get some different company in Lagos, maybe to host the.

D

C

And they could on one day of workshop for you. Yes, you can do.

B

I'm trying you know, they're stubborn they're, not sure if they want to host it or not, but I'm Gonna, Keep, persistent I just hope to do one so I can, you know, probably bring Lucas down to Lagos and show him around and probably some nice life secrets.

D

G

B

So the next thing on the agenda is: oh, this is Justin drop in the first newsletter on the 5th of April I just said: we have a newsletter now.

C

Yes, so we haven't I, think API newsletter that'll be dropping tomorrow. Yeah.

B

Tomorrow, oh yeah, I forgot tomorrow is fifth.

C

B

Should we be expecting like in this news later.

C

Okay, so I think API uses it's just something. People like um it's a community updates like in case you miss like the important discussions, the important news that are happening in the community. We highlight some um news and articles, so it's just one simple newsletter that summarizes some most important stuff back in one use the data, then we send it out just in case you missed it.

C

Okay, maybe when on vacation you don't know what has been happening or what discussion or you don't know: okay, we're launching the boundary program so yeah, so it's something that will be included in the newsletter. So it's more like a community update newsletter like you update the community in case you missed it or things that are coming up, things that we are just I say yeah.

B

Yeah finally, um hookash won't be asking when anytime is back on. Vacation is still alive.

C

B

You go check your inbox mate.

B

Nice, this is really nice I'm, actually looking forward to the newsletter, uh because you know a lot of folks sometimes go on vacation or get too busy to keep up with the community and I think that is the best way for them to actually uh see what is going on. What did they miss uh I think the the initiative is actually what what inspired is like what what made it think the newsletter like to me. It is a brilliant idea like what do you drink in the morning and then some of that.

G

B

I need some of you who's, making a joke.

C

I didn't get the joke. What are you saying, I.

B

Was asking like what do you think in the morning when you wake up? Because this is a brilliant idea.

C

Oh I, don't know, I just think what I think I.

B

Knew whatever it is, I.

C

Need it if I have an idea, definitely I will like put into action. That's who I am actually so like. Definitely, we do need a newsletter. Maybe Ace has been away for two weeks. You don't even know what has been going on so, at least at the end of the month. You get to see oh on the community meeting last two weeks. This is why we, you get the notes there. Oh I missed um the discussion, maybe okay for Jesus, for example, or for mentorship program.

C

So this is why we need newsletter, we'll be updating everything there so that everybody can be on the loop with what's happening, Sometimes some of these discussions, or maybe like, for example, time zones as well. So you tend to miss like the community meeting, so anybody can just okay, open their inbox check click and get their details just in one simple email.

B

Perfect this is that is nice like absolutely stunning, so um do you have any question any other thing to add um another thing.

C

Oh yeah people, you should subscribe it if you want to get the first. uh The first issue please do subscribe. I'm looking for the links subscribe.

B

C

No to the newsletter- hey, oh cool: where is your edit I'm? Looking for the link? Oh, my God, why didn't they test this thing? Yes,.

B

Can you share it on YouTube.

C

Okay, if I get it I will shade I'll drop it on YouTube.

A

He'll, just put it in I've, just put it in the chat.

C

Oh, thank you. Lucas.

B

Oh man, yes, you're such a wonderful person.

A

I would say thank you if I wouldn't know you.

B

Come on just take your flowers.

B

Yeah, so one more thing I want to add before the end of this call right. So if you have, uh if you, if you're interested in learning the same kpi or how to use smppi in in real life, oh you have some project ideas right um that you would love to see being implemented using a Sync, API or please reach out to me feel free to reach out to me um I'm, actually on a journey to building as much as possible or enough um project examples using the same kpi with different protocols.

B

So if you have one out there- and you would love to see me implement it, reach out to me, send it to me and yeah if you want us to also like collaborate and do it together and hop on a stream of yeah I'm looking to collaborating uh yeah so just putting out there if you want to- and also one more thing I want to add- is actually the async API Community office hours right.

B

Do you think, because we have the community section available already right, so I was thinking. Isn't this time? Isn't it's time for us to like have this or to stop pushing these office hours or something.

A

um Not sure technically how to solve it, but um but yeah I think when you, when you came up with the idea a few months ago, there was a positive um positive feedback from the etsc members, at least the ones that noticed your idea so yeah. That would be. That would be useful, I think.

B

I now I I think I think there is an open source alternative to calendly I, don't know if I I couldn't remember, uh I, think Jonas shared I'm gonna, ask him um I think maybe we could have a way to like I think the the problem is actually technically implementing it right, uh because I was thinking we don't have to like handle the old schedule. What if each each um HTC has like yeah I, don't know I think we'll just have like probably um okay resigned.

C

Yes, just some context: what is the office hours all level in case? Someone doesn't know.

B

Yeah, so the office hour is actually an idea. We are trying to like put out there so whenever, for instance, now you're a new contributor write your nutrition kpi and you want to learn what is in PPR is or you want to, let us start contributing choosing API or you are having difficulties setting up one of these in KPS projects.

B

um So you can go to this office hour section in the community website and look for the list of folks that are available to hop on the call too right. So you can check. Maybe workers is available at this time of this hour. During this particular day, then you can actually schedule a call which, because it could be 30 minutes, it could be 15 minutes depending on how less busy crash is right.

B

So, and so, if you want to, uh it, doesn't have to be contribute if you're an organization- and you are having science like figure, but in terms of organization, you would have to make some sort of um contribution before we'll catch them up on the code, too, so probably show us the money.

B

So that is what the office hour is about.

C

Okay, so, like you want like it'll, be on like a one-on-one kind of thing, will it be public? Will it be private.

B

Yeah, it's your requirements.

C

C

All right, whatever.

B

A

B

So you could also okay.

A

um Yeah just wanted to add more context like so in the past, where uh me or Ace. We had situations that, like um there were contributors coming in asking for help, um and we were simply hopping on calls with them, like, for example, with Maya um um or or other contributors um to support them to help them with some some stuff.

A

um And but this was working with the contributors, that are, let's say the bravest and are okay asking for such help. But some might not be that that brave enough to ask for help. So that's why this idea of having it more organized as a office hours that um if somebody wants to take a few minutes of your time, hop on a call asks for some contribution or ask about asking API they can.

A

They can just go to this calendar and pick the Etsy member for a call and that's why it's private, because it's like um I think we even discussed in uh in regards to the website to the conference website that sometimes you just want uh to ask for help. But in private.

A

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A

Make decisions on the course, so, um even if it's private doesn't matter what's what's agreed on the call, uh there's this low of async API that says that if it's not a public call, it doesn't matter what you agreed on. We can always object.

C

Okay, I understand, but just a quick question. So let's say that Ace as an issue. Maybe it's a common issue by people are shy like there's a amount of people who have the same issue right and we're all shy, then a is like both said: go with Lucas. So would it be like the best like Twinkies like have maybe after the call like having tutorial Maybe on YouTube, just in case there's another person who has the same problem or will it just I, don't know it's just a thought that probably my mind now.

A

What do you mean, what tutorial.

C

Okay, so, like we have an office hour, call right I'm having a problem with, maybe let's say writing about the or understand that they generated to, for instance, right then asosphere is the same problem, but it is not even bold. Okay, we have this, one run the two of us. So what happens uh like do? We have like maybe a like.

C

We create a document or we create a tutorial, maybe that we can upload on YouTube so that the next person doesn't face the same situation as I did in understanding the generator tool like foreign as an example.

A

So like, basically to not repeat the same call about.

D

The same stuff, yeah.

A

I mean it's hard to ex to require um the CSC members to follow up this way, but we should definitely like um I mean if I would have two meetings about the same. I would definitely push for for having a a tutorial or whatever um um having it out there. So next time, there's no need for a meeting, but I can just share a link.

C

A

Yeah I mean, but some TSC members might not have time to follow up this way and and handle that um but yeah we definitely should have some um for the office hours. Some some guidelines like um what to do like if there's someone from Google coming up and wants to free to have free Consulting, that's what you should do if.

E

A

Asks something that is already documented or just it's a lack of documentation, that's what you should do so that would be useful. Such a guidelines.

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B

Nice um now talking about this um I think it should be actually interesting to open um an issue on the website yeah, because we would definitely need um the office hour page um on the community section and see if someone is interested in picking it up. Yeah just give it a try.

B

You missed a lot of things, so you joined late, um so he said hey. So what are we discussing about? We are discussing a lot so so after this call, you can eventually uh you know, watch the recording it's available on YouTube. um Don't forget to leave a like And subscribe.

A

D

Leave a comment below.

A

By the way, it's 11 right, I mean.

B

um Okay, so it's 10 yeah, so eleven.

A

B

Okay, uh thanks for getting this call guys, um it's been an amazing session I'm, looking forward to seeing you guys turn up um in two weeks time and talk about something much more interesting, so upside is called. The recording is available on YouTube and also um it shows description of the whole talk would be fine, can be found or will be found in the get up issue.

B

um So the meeting notes sorry so since there's no question and it's time for us to go I think yo should have a wonderful day ahead. Have fun thanks for joining. This call, see you guys next time, peace.

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