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Description
Today’s outreach agenda: http://bit.ly/2bbdoAo
A
Alright,
we're
on
the
air
is
Thursday
August
twenty-fourth,
we're
going
to
talk
about
outreach
for
backdrop,
so
the
general
goal
for
this
meeting
is
to
try
and
figure
out
what
we
can
do
to
get
more
people
talking
about
the
backdrop
I
feel
like
at
this
point.
We
have
a
really
solid
product.
We
just
need
to
kind
of
get
the
word
out
more,
and
so
we
have
a
list
here
of
things
that
we
think
we
can
do
things
that
developers
thought
up,
that
we
should
do
to
help
people
talk
about
backdrop.
A
So
if
you
have
experience
in
marketing
or
thoughts
that
are
not
on
this
agenda,
please
let
us
know
we're
doing
the
best
we
can,
but
we
don't
really
know
what
we're
doing
so,
we'll
run
through
the
items
we
have
and
then
hopefully,
at
the
end
we
can
talk
about
things.
We
don't
know
that
we
should
also
be
talking
about
so
for
starters,
the
first
thing
on
our
to-do
list
is
to
send
regular
newsletters.
A
We
have
this
great
mailing
list
of
people
who
subscribed
when
we
first
launched
backdrop
and
have
been
continually
adding
themselves
over
time.
People
are
interested.
What's
going
on
I'm
not
doing
a
very
good
job
of
telling
them
what's
going
on
backdrop,
144
released
this
past
week,
and
so
now
is
the
time
to
tell
everybody
to
try
backdrop.
14
of
1440
was
about
fixing
release
that
we
didn't
want
to
send
the
newsletter
until
it
went
out
until
after
we
were
sure
nobody
would
try
backdrop
and
find
some
horrible
problem
with
it.
A
So
I
haven't
drafted
that
newsletter.
That
I
probably
made
like
a
month
and
a
half
ago
which
definitely
needs
to
be
updated,
and
we
can
review
that
today
and
send
it
out
which
is
good
but
bigger
picture.
It
would
be
great
if
we
could
find
somebody
to
be
responsible
for
newsletters
kind
of
interesting
things
to
tell
people,
and
we
said
the
newsletter
ideally
once
a
month
would
be
great.
So
if
anyone
does
anyone
who's
good
at
newsletters
or
anyone
who
knows
anyone,
who's
interested
them
learning
how
to
do
newsletters,
that's
really
easy.
A
We
use
mail
Joe,
it
doesn't
require
any
serious
development
skills.
They
have
great
templates.
It
doesn't
really
divide
require
any
experience
with
MailChimp
because
they
make
it
pretty
straight
forward,
which
needs
somebody
who
has
time
available
to
think
about
it
and
interest
in
actually
doing
the
thing,
so
definitely
something
we
are
keeping
our
ears
open
for.
If
anybody
wants
to
do
that,
we're
not
being
very
good
at
it
having
someone
own
it,
I
think,
would.
B
A
Much
better
another
thing
that
we
need
to
be
a
little
bit
better
at
is:
writing
blog
posts
on
backdrop
CMS
to
org.
We've
done
a
pretty
good
job
since
the
beginning
of
the
year
of
being
pretty
diligent
about
finding
things
and
having
people
write
posts,
I
think
the
more
voices
on
the
blog
the
better.
So
anyone
who
has
anything
to
say
about
backdrop
whether
they're,
you
know
part
of
our
community
yet
or
not.
It's
just
somebody
who's,
like
oh
I,
tried
it.
A
Here's
what
I
think
I
think
that
would
also
be
really
valuable
and
anyone
who
can
do
any
blogging
on
sites
that
aren't
backdrop
CMS
network
is
also
really
useful.
So
if
we
have
people
who
I
could
write
a
blog
post
on
CBC,
mi
notice,
Jack
added
that
we
they're
on
our
site
or
on
civvy
site,
we
have
talked
to
them
a
little
bit
about
how
to
do
a
little
cross
promotion.
A
C
Actually,
I
figure-
it's
a
good
time
to
in
general,
say
that
the
folks
at
civic
CRM
were
reaching
out
to
folks
at
pallante
about
getting
backdrop
involved
and
I
know
they're
in
touch
with
y'all
as
well,
directly
Nate
and
gems,
so
I
know
they're
directly
in
touch,
but
it
seemed
like
because
we
need
blog
posts.
It
might
be
good
to
the
cross
post,
something
just
about
status
here,
I'm
the
backdrop
working
together
I.
C
I
know
that
I
have
been
wanting
to
write
a
few
different
blog
posts
and
a
few
of
them,
I
think,
have
passed
their
like.
You
know
due
date,
so
I
want
to
let
those
go,
but
this
seems
like
something
that
folks
have
energy
around
and
it
could
help
to
inspire
some
last-minute
polish
or
some.
Some
final
touches
on
the
civic,
SI
RM
port
to
backdrop
so
seems
good.
That.
C
D
C
A
Really
have
an
editorial
crosses
for
the
most
part.
We
trust
people
so
I
would
say,
write
the
blog
post.
If
you
want
someone
to
read
it
just
like
post
in
get
her
like
hey
someone
read
this
over
just
make
sure
there
any
typos
or
whatever.
But
you
know
if
you
have
editorial
access,
we
obviously
trust
you
so
do
you
think
is
good
and
if
you
want
I,
don't
think
everybody
has
permission
to
create
a
blog
post.
A
C
A
That's
great
also
I
was
thinking
Brian.
For
those
of
you
don't
know.
Brian
is
the
manager
of
the
boot
fitters
com
site,
which
was
my
first
public
backdrop.
Site
was
really
exciting.
First,
you
know
real
one
is
supposed
to
like
mine
in
my
dad's
in
Brian
I'm,
trying
to
talk
into
giving
a
case
study
on
the
site
at
fat
camp
this
year.
A
At
the
backdrop
summit,
which
I
think
will
be
great,
I
also
think
if
you
wanted
to
do
like
a
trial,
run
case,
study
on
backdrops
and
last
org
and
we're
interested
in
doing
that
in
the
form
of
like
a
blog
post.
That
might
also
be
really
interesting
content.
So
if
you
wanted
to
kind
of
do
that
as
a
strategy
of
figuring
out
what
to
say
at
the
summit
that
might
be
good
exercise
and
if
it
would
be
the
same
content
both
time,
so
it
would
be
duplication
of
effort.
That's
also
reasonable.
A
Now
fantastic
and
we
are
setting
up
a
showcase
section
and,
and
your
site
is
the
first
one
we
have
a
bunch
of
screenshots
in
there,
for
so
that
would
really
kind
of
nice.
If
we
could
get
those
going
at
the
same
time,
you're
like
here's
the
case
study
and
by
the
way
it's
in
the
showcase,
then
people
can
kind
of
go.
Take
a
more
in-depth
look
over
all
of
the
different
screenshots
of
the
site
at
different
resolutions
and
different
pages
and
stuff.
A
That
would
be
kind
of
a
good
pairing
to
get
this
together
all
right.
So
we
also
have
a
meta
issue
about
blog
post,
which
is
number
158.
In
the
backdrop,
CMS
torque
you,
if
anyone
has
other
good
ideas,
things
that
should
go
on
the
blog,
we
can
get
them
into
that
list.
I
know:
we've
had
a
bunch
of
people
mentioned
interest
in
things,
but
not
have
time.
If
anyone
else,
you
know
you
care
about
someone
who
has
a
good
idea.
A
If
you
can
encourage
them
to
add
a
comment
to
that
issue,
we
can
definitely
get
anyone
into
the
queue
it's
just
a
matter
of
like
spreading.
The
word
like
how
do
we
tell
you?
We
want
your
posts
on
backdrop.
Maybe
we
should
have
twitter
start
doing
something
on
it,
where
it's
like
hey
absolutely
to
share
about
backdrop,
but
you
can
write
a
post
on
our
blog
I,
don't
know
other
other
ideas
about
how
to
get
people.
Writing
more.
A
For
us,
I
think
would
be
good,
so
it's
less
on
us
to
come
up
with
the
content
more
on
all
the
people
who
have
the
content.
Okay.
Another
thing
that
came
up,
I
think
at
one
of
our
first
outreach
meetings
was
this
idea
of
creating
videos
like
we
have
a
lot
of
compelling
reasons
to
use
backdrop,
and
we
wanted
to
create
a
bunch
of
videos.
Rebecca
ops,
II
must
at
work.
That
was
like
here's
an
example
of
something
you
can
do
with
backdrop.
A
We
don't
have
anybody
making
videos
last
meeting
alberto
joined
and
he
had
all
these
great
ideas
about
videos
that
we
could
be
doing
in
spanish,
which
was
super
appealing
to
me,
because
I
think
it
all
help
us
do
a
better
job
of
spreading.
The
word
about
backdrop
in
places
that
don't
use
English
as
their
primary
language,
specifically
Latin
America
we've
had
a
ton
of
interest
already
in
backdrop,
and
I
would
love
to
do
a
better
job
of
meeting
the
needs
of
those
as
well.
A
So
I
see
that
you've
busted
your
first
video
into
google
drive,
it
looks
like
which
is
super
exciting
to
me,
I'm,
really
looking
forward
to
watching
it.
We
should
maybe
come
up
with
a
process
of
figuring
out
like
how
to
get
these
posted
is
backdraft
like
this.
Google
drive
the
right
place
for
them
to
live.
Should
we
put
them
in
like
a
backdrop
folder
and
have
backdrop
like
automatically
tweet
when
they're
available?
Should
we
just
give
you
access
to
the
faster
youtube
channel
and
you
can
start
posting
them
there?
E
A
E
F
Till
their
interest,
is
there
an
interest
in
having
a
bunch
of
these
videos
that
are
a
official
backdrop,
CMS
they're
gonna
be
hosted
on
your
channel.
Are
you
looking
more
for
people
to
do
their
own
videos
post
him
in
and
let
you
know
where
the
links
are,
so
you
can
share
them
in
I
would
say
both
we.
A
Need
both
I
would
love
to
have
as
many
people
as
possible
talking
about
back
drop
it.
That's
not
us,
but
I
also
think
we
should
have
our
own
official.
You
know
tutorials
or
whatever
should
ok,
so
I
don't
know
what
whatever
we're
going
to
come
up
with,
and
we
just
don't
have
anyone
right
now
who
can
create
that
video
content
for
us,
so
I
think
the
more
we
can
get
other
people
doing
it
and
broadcast
what
they're
doing
the
better,
but
eventually
at
some
point
we
will
want
to
have
her.
F
F
Quite
a
bit
so
I
mean
anyone
jumping
into
one
of
my
channels
can
say
I'm
putting
a
lot
of
low
those
things
and
getting
pretty
good
at
using
that
type
of
stuff
to
create
a
intro
outro,
so
I
mean
this
is
definitely
an
area
where
I'd
like
to
you
know
be
in
the
loop
for
sure
of
is
where
I
think
I
can
lend
some
serious.
All
that.
A
Would
be
fantastic,
we
definitely
need
you
know
a
whole
bunch
of
different
kinds
of
videos
and
for
those
of
you
don't
know,
Brian
also
has
like
some
pretty
good
system
administrator
chops
too.
So
you
could
do
like
a
technical
like
how
to
install
back
rub
on
your
server
or
go
like
how
to
configure
get
or
like
there's
a
bunch
more
technical
stuff.
You
can
do
too.
A
That's
not
just
user
interface,
easy
stuff
and
you've
got
like
the
right
environments
to
do
it,
but
I
think
like
because
our
initial
audience
we're
going
after
people
who
are
primarily
the
user
interface,
see
users
that
might
be
the
place
to
start
so
I
don't
know.
If
maybe
you
want
to
watch
Alberto's
video,
we
could
try
and
figure
out
if
we
could
do
like
a
pairing
of
like
here's
one
in
Spanish
and
here's
one
in
English.
That's
like
of
similar
content
that
might
be
kind
of
fun.
D
A
Yeah
yeah,
we
can
look
at
it,
but
also
write
good.
Anything
particular
you
want
to
do
I
would
say
like
a
video,
so
probably
from
across
the
best
one
and
something
you're
passionate
about
to
so.
If
they're
sick,
something
area
like
I
love,
this
particular
feature
in
fact:
drop.
I
didn't
have
this
my
drupal
site,
I'm,
gonna
demo,
this
that
would
be
really
compelling
to
even
if
they're
short,
like
five
minute
or
less
videos.
A
That's
totally
fine,
and
that
might
be
a
great
place
to
start
to
where
you're
like
I
want
to
try
I'm
an
addict
new
trail
slide.
An
outro
slide
and
I
only
need
a
couple
minutes
of
content.
Here's
something
fun
and
just
make
it
so
I
would
say.
Maybe
let's
do
that
for
your
first
one,
all
right
something
you're
passionate
about
and
do
that
I
think
it
said
the
same
thing
to
help
her
okay
do
last
time
and
what
we'll
take
it
from
there
and
see
where
it
goes.
D
A
F
Know,
I'm
youtube,
I,
don't
know
if
anyone,
if
you
guys
have
seen
this
from
notice
I
found
this
out
not
too
long
ago.
So
I
don't
know
how
long
the
function
always
existed.
But
if
your
YouTube
channel
is
set
up
under
youtube,
then
you
know.
Obviously
Google
gives
you
one
login
one
user,
but
I
found
and
I
did
this
with
the
boot
fitters
channel.
But
if
you
attach
your
YouTube
channel
to
your
plus
google
com
account,
which
was
a
little
bit
of
a
pain
in
the
ass,
then
all
of
a
sudden
you
can
assign
manager.
F
So
now,
like
I,
look
at
our
official
YouTube
channel
and
I
can
have
various
people
and
you
can
give
them
permission.
Stis
people
can
modify
faith
in.
You
know
upload
news,
so
I'm
just
throwing
that
in
there,
because
you
know
if,
if
that
hasn't
been
done,
there
is
a
way
to
take
the
official
backdrop
channel
and
say
well,
we
do
want
to
have
other
content
people
that
can
contribute
in
here's
your
access
and
it's
full
irrevocable
by
the
channel
owner.
So
yeah.
A
That's
a
good
idea.
I
think
we
are
already
hooked
up
because
the
in
order
to
get
the
google
hangouts
to
do
the
live
broadcasting
on
youtube
they
had
to
be
associated,
so
that
might
be
something
we
just
look
into
and
figure
out
how
to
like.
You
know,
give
you
access
to
channel,
give
clublet
giraffes
ass
or
what
it
will
mean
all
right,
yeah.
I
think
this
is
a
great
great
great
thanks.
Everybody
for
help
the
feedback
and
work
done
on
videos
already,
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
see
how
that
evolves.
A
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
offense,
and
we
have
a
couple
of
events
that
various
people
in
the
community
I've
been
attending
all
year.
I
would
love
to
get
more
write.
Ups
from
people,
I
know,
there's
somebody
who
tended
drupalcamp
asheville.
I
wanted
to
get
right
up
on
that
and
just
other
little
bits
of
news
about.
You
know
what
was
your
major
takeaway
from
the
camp?
How
do
people
respond?
A
Having
backdrop
that
sort
of
thing
and
just
that
people
know
that
we're
out
there,
but
I
would
also
love
to
have
backdrop
attend
events
that
are
not
drupal.
Events
to
to
try
and
start
branching
out
like
over
the
long
term,
drupal
events
are
not
going
to
be
the
right
place
for
backdrop
and
trying
to
find
I
larger
developer
community
that
we
can
tap
into
before.
We
have
a
community,
that's
large
enough
to
do
our
own
events.
A
I
mean
I,
think
we
could
probably
do
a
small
factor,
but
then
even
starting
this
year,
but
I
would
love
to
have
other
places
where
we
can
go
and
talk
to
people
to
a
backdrop
that
aren't
already
people
who
know
about
it.
So
we've
got
a
list
here
of
events
that
we
should
maybe
go
to
to
and
Jack's
like
you're,
adding
some.
So
thanks
for
that
as
well.
A
And
some
of
them
have
fairly
hefty
ticket
prices
it
supposed
to
all
these
terrible
events,
we're
used
to
attending
for
free,
and
so
it
would
be
good
to
try
and
see
like
what
the
hurdles
are
to
getting
into
those
events
like
do
we
need
to
have
a
booth?
Do
we
need
to
give
a
talk
like
what
are
the
kinds
of
things
we
should
be
doing
and
try
and
judge
the
cost
of
attending
them
against
the
value
of
doing
it?
C
Yeah,
so
just
I
put
a
couple
here:
I
don't
know
if
this
is
where
the
running
list
should
be
0.
Yin
bad
camp
is
definitely
one
we
should
talk
about,
but
so
I
put
on
the
aspiration.
Nonprofit
software
development
summit,
which
folks
were
at
last
year,
which
was
exciting
and
I,
think
the
response
was
enthusiastic.
I
know
people
will
be
excited
to
hear
more
about
it
and
it's
a
non
grupal
space.
That's
really
kind
of
up
our
alley
so
I'll
be
there.
C
Other
folks
from
polanta
will
be
there,
but
I'd
also
encourage
like
other
folks
who,
maybe
even
like
just
backdrop,
developers
and
folks
who
are
more
on
the
code
and
the
things
like
if
they
haven't
gotten
to
go
to
a
space
where
you're
kind
of
working
with
other
devs
are
talking
with
other
devs
who
are
in
the
nonprofit
sector.
It
might
be
a
good
spot
to
go.
That's
an
on
Drupal
spot
for,
but
folks
working
on
code
and
everything
like
that.
C
So
putting
that
out
there
and
then
study
con
again,
the
folks
there
we're
interested
in
getting
people
from
backdrop
involved
and
that
which
is
happening
in
May
and
st.
Louis
and
I
know
again.
I
Lanka
folks
are
going
to
be
there
so
in
terms
of
leveraging
people
to
handout,
materials
or
just
generally
talk
about
stuff.
That's
definitely
there,
but
I
bet
there's
room
for
more
substantial.
You
know,
I
mean
backdrop
lips
to
the
CRM
is
really
awesome
for
nonprofits,
so
I
feel
like
people
will
be
excited
to
hear
more
about
it.
A
A
It
was
a
very
eye-opening
experience
and
we
just
loved
every
bit
of
it,
so
it
definitely
hi
there
may
not
something
that
you
and
Mike
and
there
were
like
a
whole
bunch
of
people
recommended
it
to
me
and
I
was
like
I,
don't
know
and
I
when
I'm,
just
like.
Oh
my
god,
they're
all
right.
This
is
amazing.
So
it's
definitely
something
I
recommend
to
anyone
who's
interested
in
coming.
Even
if
you're
not
hopeful
to
the
bay
area,
it
is
a
fantastic
event.
Mm-Hmm.
C
A
All
right,
so,
let's
talk
about
bad.
Can
we
have
a
backdrop?
Seventh,
we
did
a
little
backdrop
summit
there
last
year,
we're
in
the
first
half
of
the
day
we
did
sort
of
a
our
standard
backdrop,
presentation,
followed
by
some
training
exercises
where
we
just
kind
of
did
set
a
little
hands-on
backdrop
experience
and
then
the
afternoon
we
just
did
kind
of
a
open
request
to
the
audience
about
what
it
is.
They
want
to
talk
about
or
want
to
take
down
this
up
and
we
build
in
the
rest
of
the
day.
A
With
a
little
bit
of
extra
content,
we
had
some
talks,
I
think
Wes.
You
gave
a
talk
on
theme,
stuff
and
I.
Don't
think
there
is
to
give
a
talk,
although
he
was
available,
I,
don't
know
this
year,
we're
trying
I'm
trying
to
change
it
up
a
little
bit
because
we
might
be
doing
both
the
stomach
and
a
training
on
the
following
day,
and
so
I
wanted
to
remove
all
of
the
training
content
from
the
summit
and
make
sure
that
that
way.
A
If
people
attended
both
events,
they
wouldn't
be
getting
any
duplication,
and
so
what
I
thought
we
would
do
is
fill
in
that
gap
with
demonstrations
of
software
that
integrates
with
the
backdrop
as
well
as
case
studies
of
people
actually
owned
backdrop
sites
and
what
they're
getting
from
them
in
wild
or
we
didn't
have
a
whole
lot
of
backdrop
sites
this
time
last
year,
I
think
Brian.
We
did
a
demo
of
your
site
they're
like
look
how
cool
this
site
is,
but
that
was
the
only
site.
I
had
to
talk
about
something
alrighty
then
well.
A
This
is
the
theoretical
example
of
how
that
might
work
where's
this
year
there
are
a
whole
bunch
of
sites
out
there.
People
are
running
backdrop
and
I
think
people
are
really
appreciating
it,
and
so
it
would
be
great
to
get
more
of
those
people
talking
about
factura,
so
Brian,
if
you're
there.
Getting
you
to
talk
about
your
own
set
would
be
good
rather
than
me
talking
about
how
much
I
love
to
building
it.
A
But
I
haven't
been
someone
from
pantheon
yet,
but
if
I
was
also
thinking,
we
should
open
it
up
to
anyone
else.
Who
wants
to
talk
about
anything
that
they
have
been
working
on,
that
they
want
to
see
in
backdrop.
So
I
don't
know
Wes.
If
you
want
to
do
a
another
from
you,
you're
not
coming
to
vacuum
this
year.
Are
you
maybe
no
okay?
Well,
anyway,
anyone
could
Jack
I,
don't
know
what
you're
gonna
be
there,
but
I
was
thinking
it
might
be.
A
It
might
be
kind
of
fun
to
open
up
and
say,
like
15
minutes
section
segments
like
I'm,
not
asking
for
a
lot
of
content
frame
in
15-20
minutes,
pick
something
that
you
want
to
share
with
people
and
we
can
just
kind
of
have
a
whole
bunch
of
little
lightning
talk
style
things
where
it's
like
your
15
minutes
of
something
I
think
is
cool
five
minutes
to
talk
about
it.
15
minutes,
10
minutes,
then
just
get
a
bunch
of
topics,
the
bunch
of
different
people
and
no
more
people.
We
can
have
involved
I.
A
Think
the
more
more
interesting
conversations
we're
going
to
end
up
having
so
yeah.
If
anyone
has
any
interest
in
speaking,
it
would
be
great
if
anyone
wants
to
come
to
that
camp
that
doesn't
have
money
by
camp
has
the
scholarship
a
program,
so
you
can
apply
at
bad
2069
camp
net
under
the
community
section,
there's
an
application
for
scholarships.
So
if
you
want
to
come
from
anywhere,
you
know
we
have
budgets
for
travel,
international
magic,
so
I
think
we're
running
out
of
time
on
scholarship
application,
so
definitely
get
those
things
didn't.
A
If
you
wanted
from
and
last
year,
I
think
we
accepted
all
the
scholars
just
for
reference
for
like
we
don't
have
that
many
just
bring
them
all
so
so
we
didn't
have
to
make
any
hard
decisions
which
was
good,
but
yeah.
Anyone
have
any
thoughts
on
other
things.
We
should
do
at
bad
camp
this
year
at
this
on
it
well.
C
E
A
E
A
Cities
and
in
Iowa,
and
so
we
have
an
outline
for
the
day
which
I
think
we've
got
a
shared
folder
for
backdrop,
training
materials.
If
I
don't
wants
to
look
at
that,
but
what
we
usually
do
is
we
do
some
follow
along
site
building
in
the
morning
where
everybody
watched
through
the
process
of
setting
up
a
portfolio
website.
A
We
figure
because
we're
talking
to
web
developers
building
the
portfolio
site
is
something
that
they
might
identify
with
and
actually
appreciate,
and
so
we
go
through
the
process
of
like
creating
content,
types
and
enterings
content,
and
we
just
highlight
the
differences
between
backdrop
and
purple.
So
it's
a
very
much
focused
on
people
who
are
already
know
Drupal
and
want
to
know
what's
different
and
then
at
the
afternoon
we
switch
over
and
we
start
talking
about
code
and
we
show
like
the
differences
between
beaming
in
backdrop
and
drupal,
and
we
talked
about
layouts.
A
We
show
what
a
layout
looks
like
and
then
we
talked
about
modules
and
depending
on
the
level
of
the
people
in
the
class
which
we
ask
them
first
thing
the
morning
we
can
either
do
like
a
live
module
port.
You've
got
a
bunch
of
developers
in
the
class
or
we
can
switch
and
do
like
talk
about
upgrading
from
triple
seven
replicating
from
triple
six
or
just
spend
some
time.
You
know
brainstorming.
If
people
there
have
particular
issues
that
they're
concerned
about,
we
can
talk
about
how
those
from
slightly
softened
back
job.
A
A
I
would
love
to
not
be
alone
integrating
the
drinking,
so
we
have
anyone
else
who
wants
to
help,
particularly
in
the
morning
I
think
that
would
be
great.
That's
when
they
it's
probably
not
be
around.
That's
the
kind
of
like
why
of
backdrop
and
the
site
building
instructions,
and
we
can
definitely
go
over
at
out
of
time
and
then
more
ideas
about
things
to
do
in
the
in
the
training
and
in
the
summit
would
be
good
too.
A
So
jack
has
asked
the
question
of
is
the
backdrop
Simon
going
to
be
at
the
same
time
as
the
nonprofit's
on
it
again.
Yes,
but
it's
also
also
going
to
be
in
the
same
space
as
in
the
nonprofit
summon
again.
So
both
events
are
currently
scheduled
to
happen
in
the
march
on
Thursday
and
backdrop
summit
is
going
to
be
in
the
bar
area
in
the
front
of
the
building
and
the
nonprofit.
Someone
is
going
to
be
in
the
theater
in
the
back
of
the
building.
A
So
even
though
the
con
we
going
on
at
the
same
time
I'm
we're
hoping
that
people
will
be
able
to
easily
move
from
one
to
another.
So
I
think
if
we
can
do
like.
If
we
can
come
up
with
a
schedule
and
the
nonprofit
income
of
the
schedule,
we
can
show
each
other.
We
might
be
able
to
work
it
out
so
that,
like
our
breaks
line
up
and
then
that
way,
if
people
want
to
move
from
one
to
another
easily,
they
can
decide
that
something
they
don't
want
or
they
do
want.
We
can.
A
A
A
Advertising,
so
this
is
something
that
I
think
might
be
valuable
for
backdrop.
If
we
can
come
up
with
a
ver
tising
budget,
we
could
figure
out
whether
it's
worth
putting
ads
on
Google
or
Facebook,
particularly
targeted
at
triple
six
or
Drupal
7
site
owners.
I
think
Facebook
in
particular,
has
a
really
good
way
of
figuring
out
who
should
see
what
ads,
based
on
the
ads
they're
showing
me
I
think
we
can
probably
get
this
to
exactly
our
audience.
A
If
we
wanted
to
do
that
and
on
Google,
you
can
target
your
ads
towards
specific
Church
search
terms.
So
if
somebody's
like
drupal,
alternative
or
upgrading
from
Drupal,
that
might
be
good
a
good
way
to
kind
of
get
those
people's
attention
to.
But
I
know
that
right
now
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
money
for
budget,
because
we're
planning
on
spending
all
of
our
money
on
t-shirts,
but
it
would
be
good
to
figure
out
how
much
something
like
that
would
cost
and
see
if
we
can
come
up
with
a
reasonable
but
reasonable
budget.
A
So
we
can
get
more
word
about
backdrop
out
through
advertising.
I,
don't
know
if
any
anyone
has
any
thoughts
on
how
that
might
work
or
might
not
work
or
if
anyone
has
any
interest
or
experience
in
the
online
advertising
world
and
wants
to
set
that
up
for
us
up
even
better
I
set
up
a
couple
of
ads
for
a
Drupal
training
back
in
the
day.
I.
Remember
it
being
not
nearly
as
complicated
as
I
had
originally
anticipated,
but
also
a
lot
more
expensive
than
I
had
originally
anticipated.
C
Sorry
I'm
super
talkative
today,
but
so
just
flagging
two
things
for
me:
one
is
like
ethical
considerations
of
using
these
creepy
advertisers.
I
know
everyone
does
it,
but
you
know,
Facebook
advertising
is
very
creepy
and
disturbing.
I
was
reading
all
the
data
points.
They
gather
like
how
much
credit
that
you
have
and
stuff
like
that,
and
then
they
use
that
to
influence
what
they
advertise
to
you
and
give
that
info
to
advertisers.
C
C
A
So
that
that
man,
yeah
kinds
of
people
are
gonna
have
ad
blockers
on
are
probably
gonna
find
out
about
us
other
ways.
It's
the
yeah
is
like
the
people
that
are
likely
to
be
on
Facebook
and
the
people
that
are
likely
to
not
have
ad
blockers,
like
that's
kind
of
our
like
those
are.
The
people
were
competing
against
wordpress
for
and
so
I
feel
like,
like
yeah
there's
some
super
sketchiness
around
that
data,
but
it's
also
like
exactly
our
target,
but
I,
don't
I,
don't
necessarily
feel
like.
A
We
need
to
put
money
into
that
system
like
to
feed
the
monster.
I
would
I
would
be
definitely
happy
star
with
like
a
search
terms,
thing
on
and
Google
where
it's
like.
We
don't
care
who
it
is
that
if
they
search
for
this
word,
we
want
an
ad,
like
that
seems
less
creepy,
at
least
on
a
surface.
Yeah
and
I
also
might
be
a
good
way
to
kind
of.
A
C
B
A
Okay,
anything
else
on
advertising
Ubuntu
website,
yeah,
okay,
so
for
the
website,
and
we
have
a
website
right,
but
it
is
not
super
geared
towards
our
particular
target
audience.
It's
just
kind
of
a
website
because
we
need
a
website
and
I
think
we're
getting
better
about
having
useful
content
on
it,
and
it
would
be
good
if
we
could
get
it
particularly
optimized
for
search
so
people
who
are
looking
for
drupal
alternatives-
or
you
know
don't
know
the
name
is
backdrop
can
find
us
would
be
really
great.
A
I
I
also
think
it
would
be
good
if
we
can
make
it
a
little
more
compelling
as
a
sales
pitch
e
type
thing,
so
that
people
who
are
like
looking
for
I
want
something
that
I
can
show
my
boss
that
this
is
why
we
need
to
use
back
job.
Our
home
page
lists
a
bunch
of
bullet
items
that
don't
really
have
any
explanation.
A
We've
turned
that
into
a
content
type,
so
we
can
do
kind
of
a
long
tour
explanation
of
why
we
can
add
a
video
we
can
add
screenshots
and
we're
working
on
getting
those
done
to
which
will
be
good.
But
I
also
think
like
having
just
as
you
know,
one
page
thing
about
like
this
is
why
backed
up
wins
would
be
great,
where
people
can
just
kind
of
say.
A
You
know,
here's
all
the
things
that
I
believe
in
the
backdrop
also
believes
in
that
are
important,
that
you
know
whether
it's
a
philosophical
thing
or
a
budget
thing
or
whatever
like
so.
We
can
target
here,
read
this
and
then
people
understand
what
backdrops
of
that
would
be
really
good.
I
also
think
we
have
a
lot
of
things
for
planning
on
doing
to
the
website
long-term
and
they
aren't
listed
anywhere.
Clearly,
we
have
a
issue
queue
practicing.
A
A
So
having
a
like
a
road
map
for
the
website
would
be
equally
useful
as
well
as
well
as
we
have
a
roadmap
for
this
product
just
having
some
kind
of
long-term
goal
of
what
we're
doing
there
would
candy,
but
yeah,
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
make
the
web
site
more
useful
to
people
were
obviously
working
on
the
support
section.
We
have
a
landing
page,
we're
working
on
sitting
at
the
documentation
area.
We're
working
on
setting
up
a
forum
were
thinking
about.
A
Yeah
so
Mike
also
had
mentioned.
Maybe
we
should
put
something
for
each
target
audience
on
to
the
home
page
and
try
and
divide
the
site
into
different
target
audiences
and
I
noticed
that
that
was
like
a
big
trend
for
a
while
on
the
web
and
I
wasn't
sure
it
actually
worked
and
I
was
wondering
if
anyone
had
any
metrics
on
like.
If
you
say
this
I
did.
A
This
section
is
for
you:
do
people
actually
like
go
there
like
just
that
as
it
effective,
because
in
terms
of
organizing
information,
it
seems
like
on
organizing
the
information
and
as
a
ya
know,
it
seems
like
separating
everything
into
two
sections
is
like
a
duplication
of
content
where,
if
you
could
just
kind
of
steer
that
person
towards
the
section
they
wanted,
that
would
be
better
than
just
organizing
it.
But
I
don't
know
like
I.
Don't
actually
have
any
metrics
on
what
works
and
what
doesn't
Nate?
Are
you
talking?
B
A
Figure
it
out
and
send
it
to
you
after
this,
because
that
would
be
great
is
we
do
have
an
ellipse
coming
in,
but
I'm
I
know.
At
one
point
we
tried
to
add
like
extra
analytics
tags
to
our
website
and
we
broke
a
whole
bunch
of
job
chip.
So
we
took
it
off
again
but
yeah,
maybe
if
we
get
help
yet
that
going
into
like
we
wanted
to
record
like
what
people
were
searching
for
on
modules
page,
but
we
added
and
then
quickly
removed
that
feature.
So,
okay.
B
B
Dr.
tift
wanted
messaging
around
kind
of
our
I'm,
just
gonna,
say
cultural
values
and
hate
that
I
said
that,
but
just
kind
of
like
more
more
he
was
he
wanted
to
like
he
likes
debian,
because
it's
like
anti-corporate
kinda,
whatever
stuff
and
and
like
that
they're
trying
to
help
out
people,
not
you
know
whatever
and
I,
feel
like
that's
in
a
lot
of
our
DNA,
not
necessarily
in
backdrop,
but
it's
not
not
in
backdrop.
I
didn't
know.
E
So
yeah
I
can
I
can
elaborate
on.
That,
too,
is
that
so
the
message
that
we're
using
right
now
is
print
primarily
driven
by
cost
that
were
saying
that
we
were
an
affordable
thing.
It's
written
like
we
wrote
it
right
into
our
mission
statement
that
affordability
was
important
to
us
and
we
wrote
it
as
that
way
because
we
thought
that
that
would
be
compelling,
and
that
probably
is
for
a
lot
of
people.
E
That
cost
is
a
major
factor,
but
his
point
was
that,
right
now
our
entire
messaging
is
driven
around
economics
or
capitalism
and
that
he
really
wanted
our
message
to
reflect
our
song
by
messaging
to
reflect
our
ideals,
not
just
the
financial
association
that
we
have.
So
he
was
saying
that,
like
we
have
a
lot
of
ideas
that
are
like
you
know
about,
you
know,
information
and
doing
good
and
things
like
that.
E
So
I'm
not
sure
how
large
that
audiences
of
them
had
I
see
exactly
what
his
point
was
that
there's
some
that
that
we've
been
slanting
our
messaging
awfully
hard
in
one
direction,
probably
because
we
feel
like
it's
the
most
effective
message,
but
that
there's
other
messages
that
we
could
be
using
as
well.
Yeah.
A
I
feel
the
same
way.
I
feel
like
you
know.
The
numbers
they're
definitely
gonna,
be
a
lot
more
people
that,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
comes
down
to
how
much
something
costs
and
it
doesn't
really
matter
what
their
ideals
are.
But
I
also
think
like
because
we
do
have
these
ideals,
that
there
are
a
bunch
of
people
who
agree
with.
We
should
write
them
down
somewhere
and
like
maybe
we
don't
change
our
mission
statement,
but
we
definitely
have
a
page.
A
That's
like
this
is
what
we
believe
in
that's
a
little
more
detail
that
it
goes
into
all
that
stuff
so
that
the
people
like
matt
testa
can
find
that
information
and
be
like
okay,
I
can
get
behind
this
product.
Okay
for
sure
it's
for
nonprofits,
because
of
budget,
but
look
what
they
believe
in
and
I
think
having
that
written
down
and
clearly
stated
would
be
really
useful.
Yeah,
because
I
think
we
need
to
get
yeah
go
ahead.
Yeah.
C
It
also
occurs
to
me
that,
like
the
expense
stuff
is
a
real
good
self
or
site
owners
down
the
road
or
people
who
are
like
trying
to
choose
a
product
for
like
like
how
their
sites
going
to
be
built,
but
things
about
the
organizational
culture
and
like
that,
the
project
culture
are
good
for
potential
participants
and
other
open
source
developers.
You
know
it.
I
y'all
have
seen
the
fights
I've
gotten
into
probably-
or
maybe
maybe
some
of
you
might
have
seen.
C
Fights
I've
added
into
in
Drupal,
world
and
I
feel
like
I
have
a
relatively
limited
perspective,
but
I
was
at
the
hackerspace.
I
belong
to
talking
to
someone
about
how
she
feels
like
corporate
tech
is
way
easier
for
women
and
people
of
color
and
trans
folks
and
LGBTQ
foltz
to
be
within
then
open
source
space,
which
is
like
there's
no
rules.
C
There's
like
all
these,
like
all
this
drama
that
goes
down
like
this
and
that
so
that
was
a
funny
thing
to
me
because
I'm
like
the
open
source
advocate
in
the
space
and
she
works
at
IndieGoGo.
So
we're
always
like
you
know,
knocking
heads
but
I
was
like.
Oh,
like
that
hasn't
been
that
that
is
kind
of
a
little
bit
what
I've
experienced
in
Drupal,
but
not
as
bad
as
she's,
making
it
sound.
C
But
it's
not
what
I've
experienced
in
backdrop
and
even
though
in
backdrop,
we
are
so
small,
we
have
a
relatively
small
community
and
it
still
does
represent
lots
of
these
trends
that
you
see
in
other
open
source
communities,
around
representation
and
things
like
that.
There's
things
to
work
on,
but
that's
a
cell
that
we
can
sell
more
to
folks,
and
maybe,
if
we
feature
some
language
around
like
these
are
values
as
a
community.
Here's
who
we
want
to
include
here's
how
we
want
to
make
sure
that
folks
can
stay
involved
in
our
community.
C
C
D
E
E
E
A
That's
like
this
is
what
it
is,
or
you
don't
have
to
kind
of
infer
from
all
the
other
pages
on
the
site
what's
going
on,
but
I
do
think
that
may
be
like
those
other
pages
should
be
rewritten
with
that
new
statement
in
mind,
so
that
it
like
you
get
the
same
feeling,
regardless
of
where
you
are
on
the
side.
It's
like
this
is
what
we
stand
for,
and
this
is
how
these
pages
are
written
this
way,
but
I
think
it
would
love
to
see
it
be
standalone
page.
A
C
I'd
be
down
to
take
a
look,
is,
I
think,
y'all.
What
y'all
say
is
true,
like
the
site
already
has
a
whole
lot,
that
lots
of
other
projects
don't
come
out
with
from
the
get-go,
like
decision-making
process,
structure,
etc.
So
I
think
it
would
be
good
to
take
a
look
at
what's
already
on
the
site,
to
get
a
sense
for
like
the
tone
and
just
like
the
structure,
already
figure
out
I
think
a
standalone
page
could
be
good
and
then
working
that
into
each
of
the
sections
that
already
exists.
C
E
E
That's
in
the
pmc
like
maybe
it's
like
you
know
it
in
a
circle
or
something
like
that
showing
like
you
know
these
are
the
PMC
members,
as
opposed
to
the
bullet
list,
that
we
have
right
now,
just
to
show
like
to
add
some
human
to
our
project
because,
right
now
it's
all
just
data.
You
know.
So
that's
it.
E
A
I
mean
it's
a
good
recommendation.
I
was
actually
thinking
about
that
too,
like
trying
to
make
the
site
more
human
everywhere,
but
yeah.
That's
a
good
first
step.
Okay,
what
about
our
pmc
members?
Who
don't
have
a
photo?
Is
it
okay
to
put
the
dragon
up
there,
or
should
we
harass
them
and
be
like?
Please
got
a
photo.
Oh
okay,.
A
Okay,
well,
our
next
meeting
starts
in
five
minutes,
so
if
nobody
has
anything
else
that
we
need
to
be
working
on
in
terms
of
outreach
or
yeah,
you
can
edit
in
the
issue,
queue
somewhere.
I
guess,
I,
think,
there's
a
tag.
I
think
it's
called
like
our
audience
marketing
and
we
should
change
it
to
something
like
outreach.
A
But
if
you
want
to
add
anything
after
this
meeting,
look
if
you
watch
this
video-
and
you
haven't
thought
put
it
in
the
backdrop:
CMS
torg
issue
queue
and
the
type
of
audience
marketing
is
the
stuff
that
we
review
for
this
meeting.
It's
a
place
to
record
things
when
we're
not
talking.
Okay.
Well,
thank
you
all
for
coming
yeah
great
feedback
from
everyone,
I'm,
so
excited.
We've
got
people
participating
in
this,
because
this
is
the
one
thing
that
I
felt
like
I'm,
really
bad
at
I.