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C
Great
welcome
everyone
and
good
evening
the
July
12
2023
meeting
of
the
Baltimore
County
design
review
panel
is
called
to
order.
I
am
the
chair,
Joseph
yousafaro.
C
We
will
start
with
a
roll
call
to
account
for
the
members
of
the
panel
present
on
the
call.
When
you
hear
your
name,
please
say:
I
Mr,
Khan
I.
Thank
you.
Mr
Reynold.
C
Thank
you,
Mr
Sharma
hi.
Thank
you.
C
I,
thank
you,
Mr
Stevens
aye.
Thank
you
and
Ms
Ennis
I!
Don't
I,
don't
see
Miss
Ennis
on
phone,
so
we
will
proceed
without
mizzenas.
We
do
have
Quorum
and
again
I'm.
My
name
is
Joseph
yusuferro
Marta.
Are
there
any
changes
to
the
tentative
agenda
as
published.
C
Great,
thank
you
so
we'll
we'll
now
proceed
to
reviewing
the
June,
14
2023
DRP
meeting
minutes
and
proceeding
forward
with
emotions,
so
so
panelists
in
the
July
5th
2023
email
that
you
all
received.
You
received
draft
minutes
of
the
June
14th
2023
DRP
meeting.
Has
everybody
had
an
opportunity
to
review
the
draft
minutes.
C
Hearing
no
comments
I'll.
Take
that
as
confirmation
of
your
review
are
there
any
corrections
or
additions
to
the
minutes
of
the
June
14th
2023
DRP
meeting.
C
That's
even
better.
Thank
you
great
was
that
Mr
Khan.
Yes,
thank
you
very
much
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
aye
any
opposed
to
the
motion.
F
C
You
very
much
so
it's
my
job
to
read
an
opening
statement
for
the
DRP.
So
so,
if
you
could
sit
back
and
relax,
it'll
take
a
couple
minutes
for
me
to
get
through
this.
Thank
you
very
much.
So
the
design
review
panel
title
IV
subtitle
two
part.
One
sections
32
4203
and
204
established
the
design
review
panel
with
the
acronym
DRP.
The
DRP
was
established
to
encourage
design
excellence
and
shall
act
in
a
Consulting
and
advisory
capacity
to
the
agencies
involved
in
the
process
for
reviewing
development
plans.
C
The
objectives
for
the
drp's
assessment
include
spatial
Visual
and
functional
relationship
to
the
topographical
characteristics.
The
natural
and
built
features
of
the
site,
as
well
as
the
surrounding
features
of
the
site.
Visual
and
functional
integration
of
streetscapes,
pedestrian,
Pathways,
playgrounds,
recreational
amenities
and
Parks
streets
and
sidewalks
are
laid
out
in
a
safe
and
convenient
Manner
and
parking
is
a
positive
design.
Element.
C
Building
parking
garages
and
other
structures
are
spatially
and
Visually
integrated
and
suitable
to
their
surroundings
and
proportion
massing
and
types
of
materials
and
colors
signage
and
other
elements
of
Urban.
Design
and
plant
materials
are
selected
and
cited
to
define
the
site,
provide
a
theme
frame
of
you,
enhanced
architecture
and
Street
character,
improve
micro,
climate,
provide
transition
between
dissimilar
uses,
screen,
objectionable
views
and
uses
and
reduce
noise
levels
and
glare
in
carrying
out
its
duties.
C
C
The
panel
consists
of
nine
members
all
are
professionals
with
practical
knowledge
in
the
matters
of
design
for
purposes
and
making
recommendations
on
a
particular
project,
three
members
shall
constitute
a
quorum.
The
attendance
and
comments
of
each
member
shall
be
recorded
in
the
minutes,
which
shall
be
an
open
record
and
available
along
with
all
all
documents
submitted
to
the
panel
for
inspection
and
copying
by
the
public.
C
There
will
be
an
opportunity
for
the
community
to
offer
comments
and
suggestions
at
the
conclusion
of
the
applicant's
presentation.
These
comments
will
also
be
included
in
the
written
record
of
the
meeting
when
a
speaker
is
called
up
to
speak.
Please
keep
your
comments
focused
on
design
perspectives
within
your
allotted
two
minutes
of
time.
If
you
were
speaking
on
behalf
of
a
community
group,
you
will
get
five
minutes
of
time
at
the
conclusion
of
the
meeting.
That's
what
the
department
of
planning
will
sum
up.
C
The
recommendations
of
the
panel
before
a
motion
for
a
vote
is
suggested.
Recent
legislation
has
changed
the
panel's
recommendations
to
the
advisory
on
the
hearing
officer
in
the
various
County
agencies.
Unless
the
hearing
officer
or
agencies
find
that
the
panel's
actions
constitute
an
abuse
of
its
discretion
or
are
unsupported
by
the
documentation
and
evidence
presented,
this
position
of
the
plan
will
be
determined
as
either
approved,
approved
with
conditions
or
additional
review
with
a
second
meeting
is
required.
C
So
that's
my
opening
statement.
Thank
you
very
much
for
bearing
with
me
let's
proceed
to
the
to
the
agenda,
which
is
on
the
screen.
C
The
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
one
zero
one:
four
Taylor
Avenue
Popeyes
in
the
Loch
Raven
Hillandale
commercial
District.
The
second
item
is
825
Delaney
Valley
Road
BOGO
de
Chao,
DT
Towson,
District,
commercial
review,
and
the
third
item
is
714
Delaney
Valley
Road
Bank
of
America
DT,
Towson,
District
commercial
review.
C
So
let's
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
the
first
item
on
the
agenda:
1014
Taylor,
Avenue
Popeyes
in
the
Loch
Raven
Hillandale
commercial
review.
Presenter,
please
introduce
yourself
and
the
floor
is
yours.
Good.
G
Evening
everybody
chair,
you
suffera.
How
are
you
this
evening
doing
fine?
My
name
is
Matt
Bishop
I'm,
with
Kimberly
horn
Associates
in
our
Towson
office.
I
have
with
me
this
evening.
Robert
gamaldi,
who
is
the
architect
and
stuck
in
traffic,
is
our
client
with
PN
restaurants,
Lauren
Ben
Bassett.
G
G
Thank
you
so
I'll,
be
brief.
I
think
everybody's
probably
seen
the
presentation.
Already
we
are
proposing
a
new
freestanding
Popeyes
drive-through
restaurant
at
the
Pleasant
Plains
shopping
center,
which
is
1014
Taylor
Avenue.
It's
basically
at
the
intersection
of
Loch
Raven
Boulevard
and
Taylor
Avenue
in
Towson
Mario.
Could
you
please
Advance
the
slide.
G
This
just
gives
you
a
general
idea
of
where
we're
located
at
the
intersection
of
Loch,
Raven,
Boulevard
and
Taylor
Avenue.
It's
an
existing
retail
shopping
center,
there's
a
freestanding
CVS
funding,
Loch
Raven
Boulevard
and
then
there's
about
35
000
square
feet
of
inline
retail,
toward
the
rear
of
the
property,
we're
surrounded,
mostly
by
commercial
uses,
on
the
North
South
and
West,
with
some
residential
to
the
north
behind
the
shopping
center
and
an
existing
Baltimore
County
Library
to
the
east.
G
D
G
And
what
we're
showing
here
is
the
location
where
we're
proposing
the
new
Popeyes
restaurant,
it's
in
the
Southeast
corner
of
the
existing
parking
lot.
As
you
can
see
from
this
aerial
photograph,
the
parking
lot
is
fairly
underutilized.
G
G
D
G
And
we
just
included
some
photographs
of
the
existing
Shopping
Center
and
surrounding
built
environment,
so
this
is
a
few
from
Taylor
Avenue
at
one
of
the
existing
access
points
which
we
intend
to
reuse
or
utilize,
next
and
kind
of
a
closer
up
picture
of
some
of
the
users
that
are
in
the
space,
some
of
the
materials
that
are
used
in
existing
building.
Next,
please.
G
G
G
G
This
is
our
site
plan,
it's
hard
to
read
the
text.
So
if
you
could
just
proceed
to
the
next
slide,
please
all
right.
So
this
is
our
site
plan,
with
some
polar
put
on
in
some
preliminary
Landscaping,
as
I
mentioned
before
we're
looking
to
reutilize
or
reuse,
the
two
existing
entrance
points
off
of
Taylor
Avenue
and
also
the
existing
entrance.
It's
off
of
Loch
Raven
Boulevard.
On
the
northwest
side
of
the
plan.
G
It's
pretty
standard.
We
have
a
2500
square
foot,
freestanding
restaurant,
with
a
a
double
drive-through
Lane.
G
You
come
in
on
either
side
of
the
site,
go
up
to
the
back
side
and
come
in
or
in
the
one
of
the
front,
two
travel
aisles
there
and
get
into
the
circulation
it's
a
little
difficult,
because
we
have
18
feet
of
grade
change,
which
may
be
hard
to
see
on
some
of
the
Aerials
and
the
site
photos
we
had,
but
the
site
Falls
from
plan,
North
West
to
Southeast
quite
a
bit,
so
we
played
with
several
orientations
throughout
the
site
trying
to
get
the
grading
to
work
best
and
the
circulation
and
to
minimize
parking
impacts,
and
this
is
the
best
solution
that
we
came
up
with.
G
We
do
have
a
retaining
wall
on
the
the
south
and
east
corners
so
that
we
can
get
the
the
PAD
as
flat
as
possible.
G
We
have
pushed
it
back
from
the
roads,
so
we
have
enough
room
for
a
landscape
strip.
There
is
overhead
utility
lines,
but
I
think
we've
pushed
everything
back
far
enough
that
we
can
get
some
smaller
trees,
plenty
of
shrubs
to
help
screen
the
parking
and
the
retaining
Wallman
area.
There
are
no
Street
trees
or
no
streetscape
anywhere
along
the
frontage
yet
so
this
will
be
an
improvement
for
that
overall
condition.
G
We
do
have
some
pedestrian
circulation
around
the
building.
We
have
Ada
spaces
connecting
the
front
of
the
building.
There
were
some
comments
from
playing
Department
to
add
more
connectivity
to
the
existing
shopping
center.
We
can
look
at
that.
G
And
then
we,
as
I
mentioned,
we
started
to
do
a
preliminary
landscape
plan,
did
some
of
the
calculations.
This
should
meet
the
at
least
the
minimum
Baltimore
County,
Landscape
manner,
requirements.
G
This
is
the
standard
Popeyes
brand
way
finding
signage
height,
delimiter
order
boards.
D
G
G
H
Excuse
me
absolutely
what
you're
looking
at
here
is
actually
photographs
of
one
of
the
test
buildings
when
they
were
building
the
developing
the
Prototype-
and
this
is
the
newest
latest
greatest
of
Popeyes
and
if
you
guys
are
familiar
with
the
brand
at
all
the
the
building
used
to
be
as
bright
as
the
sun,
yellow
building.
That
was
pretty
tough
to
tell
anybody
about
its
beauty.
H
This
building
is
very
much
so
a
more
modern,
sophisticated
building.
It
displays
the
dining
room
very
well.
It
has
a
mixed
feature
of
materials
on
it
and
again
this
isn't
the
exact
building,
but
this
is,
for
the
most
part,
the
stain
2124,
that's
their
prototype
number
building
and
as
far
as
for
color
and
texture,
this
is
this
is
what
you're,
seeing
if
you
go
to
the
next
page,
please
this
is
zoomed
into
another
feature.
H
This
is
a
part
of
the
drive
through
feature
which
shows
the
nichiha
panel
simulated,
wood
below
the
orange
canopy
and
the
Popeyes
sign
above
on
an
efis
panel.
You
can
go
to
the
next
and
our
drawings
will
show
the
exact
elevations,
with
the
exact
signage
that
we're
looking
for.
But
again,
these
are
the
same
as
the
ones
that
you
just
saw,
but
individual.
This
is,
as
it
says,
south
facing
to
Taylor
Avenue,
that
is
the
dining
room,
the
non-drive
through
side
entrance
and
the
front
of
the
building.
Next,
please.
H
This
is
the
opposite
corner
of
that
the
drive-through
side
corner
with
the
front
elevation
and
the
drive-through
side
elevation
again.
The
nichiha
panel
is
at
the
drive-through
element
with
the
ethos
behind
it,
the
the
wood
members
at
the
corner,
with
the
chicken
emblem
on
it
again
the
Popeyes
up
on
the
top
on
the
brick
and
the
canopies
over
the
front
windows.
Next,
please.
H
H
The
top
is
the
drive-through
side
of
the
building
in
the
middle,
the
left
hand,
side
is
the
front
elevation.
The
right
hand,
side
is
the
rear
elevation
and
the
bottom
is
the
non-drive
through
side
the
entrance
side.
H
Next,
please
the
the
finishes
that
will
be
called
out
that
match
the
building
elevations.
Next,
please.
H
This
is
the
kitchen
plan
and
the
equipment
plan
showing
all
the
layout
of
the
kitchen
and
the
seating
in
the
dining
room.
Next,
please,
that's
it.
If
you
could
go
back
two
two
pages.
H
And
again
so,
these
are
the
actual
elevations
proposed
they're,
not
very
different
from
the
the
rendered
elevations
that
were
in
the
pictures
at
the
beginning
of
the
architectural
portion.
H
So
for
color
and
texture,
you
could
go
back
up
and
look
at
those,
but
that
is
exactly
what
our
building
would
be,
and
this
is
a
good
place
to
stop
right
there
with
those
finishes.
Those
are
the
wood
members
with
the
chicken
cut
out.
H
The
Popeyes
is
on
a
the
weathered
white
brick
up
in
the
front.
The
Popeye's
colors
are
the
teal
and
the
orange
the
teal
being
the
canopy
at
the
front,
the
orange
being
the
canopy
at
the
drive-through
that
chicken
sign
that
you
see
over
to
the
left
hand
side
that
is
not
proposed
for
this
location.
It.
It
is
a.
It
is
a
drive,
a
drive-through
sign,
but
we
didn't
think
it
was
appropriate.
Nor
did
we
have
the
location
for
it.
So
we're
definitely
not
doing
that.
Freestanding
chicken
sign
in
the
parking
lot.
C
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation
to
the
to
the
applicant
Mr
Bishop
and
I
didn't
catch
Robert's.
Last
name.
Sorry,
Robert!
Grimaldi!
Great!
Thank
you!
Okay.
C
E
C
Rhett,
are
there
any
speakers
from
the
public
who
wish
to
speak
for
this
project.
C
Thanks
Marta
for
confirming,
since
there
are
no
speakers
from
the
public,
the
public
comment
period
for
the
this
agenda.
Item
has
closed.
So
we'll
now
proceed
to
the
Department
of
planning
staff
report.
Marta.
Would
you
please
read
the
staff
report.
B
Thank
you
Joe.
So,
as
always,
we
prepared
our
staff
report
based
on
comprehensive
Manual
of
development
policies
and
in
this
particular
project
division,
free
commercial
development,
Urban
rural
demarcation
line,
section,
B,
fee,
standing,
building,
Baltimore
County
master
plan
and
Volcan
volunteer
landscape
manual.
B
Type
stuff
recommends
approval,
subject
to
the
following
conditions:
number
one
provide
a
detailed
landscape
plan,
a
list
of
all
proposed
plans
and
label
them
on
the
plan.
Number
two
demonstrate
how
storm
water
management
will
be
addressed.
Number
three
demonstrate
that
there
is
enough
space
to
plant
the
proposed
trees,
Street
trees
along
Taylor
Avenue
and
along
the
south
east
side
of
the
site
between
the
existing
sidewalk
and
the
proposed
retaining
wall
and
along
the
southeast
side
of
the
site.
B
Number
four
provide
additional
Landscaping
at
the
top
of
the
proposed
retaining
wall
to
screen
the
view
of
the
parking
lot
number
five
provide
more
details
on
the
landscape
plan
for
the
southeast
corner
of
the
site.
Number
six
create
outdoor
sitting
area
designed
for
use
by
Athens
or
clients
per
cndp
division,
3
BC,
open
space,
vandi
and
F
number
seven.
The
dumpster
enclosure
should
match
the
principal
building
materials
in
regards
to
streets,
parking
and
circulation.
B
Staff
recommends
approval,
subject
to
the
following
conditions:
number
one
parking
requirements
for
the
shopping
center
is
40
442
spaces.
There's
this
new
development
parking
spaces
will
decrease
to
236..
The
applicant
will
be
filing
a
request
for
a
variance
to
permit
236
spaces
in
low
of
35
to
442..
B
He
proposed
a
number
sorry
number
two.
The
proposed
Landscaping
should
be
used
to
screen
the
view
of
parked
cars,
provide
additional
Landscaping
at
the
top
of
the
proposed
retaining
wall
to
screen
the
view
of
the
parking
lot
number
two
sorry
number
error,
but
the
next
condition
is
percine
DPS
division,
3
bb1a
the
building
should
be
situated
to
all
of
pedestrian
connection
to
the
site
and
adjacent
sidewalks
provide
a
connectivity
diagram
to
demonstrate
that
this
requirement
is
met
and
the
last
condition
provide
bike
racks
near
the
proposed
building
per
cmdp
division.
B
Three
bed,
one
f
in
regards
to
signage
and
lighting
staff.
Ligaments
approval
subject
to
demand,
condition,
provide
a
detailed
plan.
A
label
on
this
plan
all
of
sorry
provide
a
detailed
plan
and
label
on
the
plan,
all
proposed
signs
and
all
directional
signs
to
demonstrate
the
proposed
circulation
and
in
terms
of
architectural
design.
B
C
Great
thanks
Martha
for
reviewing
the
staff
report.
Okay,
now
it's
time
to
move
on
to
the
panel
members
for
any
comments
or
discussion
that
they
may
have
so
I'm,
going
to
go
around
the
virtual
room
and
start
with
Mr.
K
I
I
guess
I'll
just
start
by
just
a
a
a
agreeing
wholeheartedly
with
the
staff
report
on
the
open
space
and
the
landscape
design.
All
of
those
are
very
critical
from
my
perspective.
K
I
would
think
that
also
there
should
be
a
need,
so
we
can
really
understand
and
have
Clarity
on
a
on
a
on
a
site
section
being
that
being
that
you
do
have
an
18
foot
drop
from
Taylor
Avenue
through
a
transverse
section
through
that
site.
So
it
makes
it
a
lot
clearer
to
us
what
really
is
going
on
there.
K
K
But
you
know
that
that's
just
a
a
comment
you
know,
hopefully
others
will
may
have
other
issues
with
it.
But
that's
my
my
concern.
You
know
going
from
the
site
to
the
building.
K
You
know
just
looking
at
the
finishes
and
the
materials
I
I
just
need
some
further
Clarity
on
on
the
on
the
actual
materials
I
I.
K
It
was
not
very
clear
to
me
on
on
the
elevations
the
illustrations
and
on
the
black
and
white
on
where
the
Ethan
stopped
and
where
there
is
bread
and
where
there
is
Brick,
it's
it's.
K
So
if,
if
they
could
be
further
I
I,
you
know
there
needs
there
needs
to
be
some
type
of
clarity
on
that,
because
I
have
a
particular
issue
with
where
is
where's,
the
thin
brick
is
and
where,
if
this
starts
I
the
the
other
piece
on
that
is,
if
the
offense
is
hitting
the
the
great
that
that
really
should
that
really
should
not
be
happening.
The
The
best
scenario
is
to
really
have
that
break.
K
Come
up
from
the
great
at
least
four
feet
just
for
the
the
maintenance
of
of
the
building
where
we're
in
a
Northern
climate.
So
there
there's
there
will
be
a
a
lot
of
snow.
A
lot
of
rain
a
lot
of
a
circulation
on
on
that
perimeter,
you
know
so
I
would
not
only
be
concerned
about
the
the
materials
on
that
building.
K
Also
they
have
that
canopy
is
expressed.
I
would
really
like
to
see
a
detail
of
that.
I
mean
it's
it's
it's
it's
it's
a
very
prominent
piece,
a
very
prominent
element
on
that
building
and
I.
Don't
really
see
a
detail
pertaining
to
that
canopy,
you
know
just
so.
I
can
understand
it
a
lot
more.
K
So
those
are
my
comments.
I
mean
I.
I
I,
understand
that
that
that
Popeyes
has
a
certain
Motif
and
design
intent
with
this.
K
C
Joe,
thank
you,
Mr
Steven,
so
I
I
think
it
would
be
appropriate
to
have
the
applicant
step
in
and
respond
to.
Some
of
your
comments
so
I
think
what
I
heard
was
you'd
like
some
more
information
about
the
18-foot
differential
on
the
site
in
in
terms
of
some
kind
of
cross-section,
so
I'd
ask
Mr
Bishop
to
respond
there
and
then
I'd
I'd
also
ask
the
architect
to
step
in
and
and
perhaps
try
to
address
some
of
Mr
Stevens
comments.
G
I
can
start
with
this
site
and
we
would
be
happy
to
provide
a
cross-section
showing
how
the
grades
work
in
relation
to
the
the
site
and
the
retaining
wall
and
the
Landscaping.
You
can
provide
that.
K
H
In
reference
to
your
questions
and
concerns,
especially
for
the
materiality
and
the
canopy,
are
you
looking
for
construction
details
from
you
know
that
we
should
pull
from
our
construction
documents?
So
you
understand
how
the
building's
built
in
reference
to
the
canopy
and
the
connection
points.
K
I
would
really
like
to
understand
that
canopy.
You
know
how
is
yeah,
basically
how
it's
designed
and
how
is
constructed.
You
know
whether
and
and
the
intent
I
mean
I
I,
don't
know
if
that's
coming
out
four
feet
or
five
feet,
I,
don't
know
you
know
if.
F
K
H
The
black
and
white
ones,
I
believe
if
you
could
zoom
in
a
little
bit
to
the
middle.
H
Well,
there
you
go
right,
there
keep
going
right
there.
It
shows
you
the
projection
right
there
of
three
feet
and,
unlike
the
test,
building
I
am
showing
the
tie
backs
back
to
the
building.
So
I
have
a
three
foot
projection
at
the
drive-through,
with
a
tie
back,
which
I
understand
from
the
imagery
that
you
first
saw
on
the
colored,
rendering
you
didn't
see
any
of
the
tie
backs,
but
this
has
them
and
it's
a
standard
detail.
If
it's
the
board's
pleasure
We'll,
add
the
construction
detail
onto
a
resubmission.
H
K
I'm
talking
about
the
the
actual
support
bar
from
the
building
to
the
canopy
is
it?
Is
it
six
feet
eight
feet
ten
feet
on
Center
all
right,
so
so.
H
You
Detail,
no,
no,
no,
we
have.
You
could
see
it
in
the
other
elevation.
Okay,
if
you
zoom
back
out.
H
And
if
you
zoom
into
the
front
door
now
on
the
rendered
elevation,
the
canopies
were
continuous
on
this
building.
The
canopy
is
just
it
no
stay
right
there
at
the
front
door.
Please,
if
you
zoom
into
the
front
door,
A
Little,
Closer,
you'll,
see
the
canopy
is
the
actual.
Projecting
canopy
is
only
at
the
door
to
cover
the
door
itself.
The
rest
of
the
metal,
the
rest
of
the
banding
is
just
a
flush
band
and
again
this
is
a
site.
H
They
a
building,
that's
you
know
developed
in
the
South
and
they
don't
have
to
worry
about
that
lovely
white
stuff
that
comes
out
of
the
sky.
They
do
have
to
worry
about
wind,
but
up
here
one
of
the
measures
that
we
do
take.
We
just
make
a
continuous
teal
band
going
around,
but
at
the
front
door
we
have
the
canopy,
we
have
a
continuous
metal,
teal
band
and
then
again
at
the
corner.
You
see
the
canopy
projecting
again
well,
that's
because
the
other
door
is
at
the
other
corner.
H
But
if
you
stay
with
this,
so
that
is
a
three
foot
door
and
we
have
two
tie
backs
for
the
three
foot
door.
H
I'd
have
to
actually
get
the
shock,
drawing
to
tell
you
if
they're
29
inches
apart
or
30
inches
apart,
but
for
a
three
foot
door
with
an
approximately
three
foot.
Four
canopy.
We
have
two
tie
backs
for
those
for
that:
canopy,
okay,.
K
I'm
just
I'm
just
indicating
what
I
see
on
the
West
and
the
south
facing
Taylor
Avenue
drawing
and
it
indicates
the
canopy
creating
an
L
on
that
on
that
building.
L
H
H
So
I
could
see
the
drive-through
elevation
and
zoom
into
the
drive-through
area
where
it
says
Popeyes,
and
it
shows
the
two
up
on
top
there,
where
it
shows
the
two
drive-through
Windows
there
there
you
go
perfect.
Thank
you,
zoom
in
a
little
again
and
again
on
in,
unlike
the
colored,
a
little
too
much
a
little
out
a
little
more
out,
so
I
could
get
the
both
draw
through
windows.
H
Okay,
unlike
the
rendered
elevation,
where
it
was
a
full
wrap
around
again.
That
was
a
product
that
was
developed
in
the
south.
H
These
two
drive-through
Windows
have
their
own
individual
canopies
that
are
orange
and
in
between
the
two
canopies
is
an
orange
band
as
the
drawing
State.
These
canopies
are
in
the
neighborhood
of
seven
feet.
Long
and
again
they
have
the
two
tie
backs
they're,
not
the
continuous
canopy
that
you
saw
on
the
rendered
and
on
the
pictures
again,
those
are
for
color.
It's
the
The
Branding
of
what
we're
doing
on
this.
Drawing
we
have
the
actual.
H
Your
questions
are
very
valid
and
because
you
know
we
all
know
what
the
snow
can
do
up
here,
but
these
are
only
approximately
seven
feet
long
and
they
have
two
tie
backs
the
wall.
The
wall
is
structured
to
support
these
canopies.
Okay.
C
All
right
great,
thank
you
to
the
architect
and
Mr
Mr
Bishop,
the
the
final
thing
I'll
say
just
in
regards
to
this
and
snow
load,
just
remember
that
the
county
reviews
for
and
would
have
to
issue
a
building
permit
absolutely
and
they
have
a
building
department
that
reviews
for
all
the
all
the
detailed
information,
including
snow
load.
C
Okay.
So,
let's
move
on
to
Miss
sauce.
E
Yes,
good
just
kidding,
I
agree
with
the
staff
review
comments
for
landscaping.
I'd
like
to
see
the
landscape
material
in
its
final
location.
E
Are
you
adding
I
was
I
was
questioning
if
you're,
adding
in
all
those
islands
to
the
left
of
the
site?
It
looks
pretty
bleak
from
the
Google
map
view
that
I've
seen
and
also
is
there
additional
lighting.
Is
there
a
photometric
study,
it
looks
like
you're
probably
going
to
be
taking
out
one
of
the
existing
light
poles
to
construct
the
Popeyes,
so
just
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
adequate
lighting
and
safety
in
this
area.
G
Yeah
I'd
be
happy
to
so
the
middle
entrance,
which
is
the
one
furthest
to
the
left
on
this
plan.
Those
trees
are
existing
and
those
islands
are
existing
and
I
just
highlighted
those
for
the
rendering,
but
we
don't
really
have
an
intention
to
replace
him.
They
seem
to
be
in
good
condition
the
the
two
islands
closest
to
the
Popeyes
there.
Thank
you.
Those
are
new,
so
those
will
be
new
islands
with
new
plantings
in
them
for
Sight
lighting.
G
We
are
proposing
just
to
leave
all
the
existing
cycling
that's
out
there,
but
we
will
have
to
relocate
one
pole
and
I
believe
on
one
of
our
exhibits
here.
We
showed
where
that
is,
but
we're
going
to
have
to
move
it
kind
of
to
the
northeast
corner
of
our
Popeyes
site,
and
we
will
have
to
lighting
and
photometric
plan
that
the
county
will
County
landscape
architect
will
have
to
review
and
make
sure
it
complies
with
any
glare
and
foot
candle
requirements,
but
other
than
that
we're
not
proposing
any
additional
site
lighting.
L
G
The
angle
parking
is
an
existing
feature
of
the
property
I
think
they
have
two-way
circulation.
G
G
I,
don't
believe,
there's
any
pavement
markings
for
directional
signage
out
there
right
now.
We
would
provide
some
on
the
actual
Popeyes
site
for
way
finding
once
you
get
onto
the
property,
but
maybe
we
should
considered
additional
striping
as
you
enter
the
site
and
I'm
sure
we'd
have
some
additional
way
of
finding
signage
to
get
people
into
the
drive-through
Lane
as
well.
C
C
C
A
We
can
hear
you
fine
sure.
Thank
you.
I've
got
a
few
comments.
I
do
I
agree
with
the
staff
report
as
well.
Several
of
the
other
panelists
hit
some
of
my
items.
I
do
think
a
big
one.
Is
the
connectivity
of
this
building
to
Taylor
Avenue
and
to
the
existing
retail
center.
It's
in
the
staff
report,
but
I
do
think.
We
need
to
see
that
right
now
the
Popeye's
just
floating
out
in
the
parking
lot
there's
really
no
way
to
get
to
it
unless
you're
walking
through
the
parking
lot.
A
So
I
would
like
to
see
that
on
the
site
plan
and
understand
how
that's
going
to
work,
especially
with
the
grading
for
the
site
retaining
wall.
Mr
Stevens
noted
it
as
well
understanding
that
site,
section
I,
think
is
going
to
be
really
important.
I
think
the
Southeast
corner
there
might
be
an
opportunity
to
bevel
that
corner
or
round
that
off
similar
to
the
northeast
corner.
A
I
too
had
questions
about
the
vehicular
circulation.
It
seems
like
everything
is
staggered
to
get
in
and
out
of
the
Popeyes
and
the
and
the
parking
so
I
would
encourage
the
applicant
to
be
looking
at
that,
especially
if
a
service
truck
or
garbage
truck
came
through
there
and
making
that
maneuver
and
users
are
exiting
Popeyes
on
that
southern
entrance.
A
I
agree
with
some
of
the
architectural
comments.
I
do
think
that
you
know
having
the
ethos
come
down
to
the
ground
is
going
to
be
problematic,
so
appreciate
those
comments
as
well
at
the
entry
off
of
Taylor.
A
If
those
eight
trees
aren't
new,
it
does
seem
like
something
could
be
done
right
at
the
entrance
coming
in
into
the
site.
Maybe
we
could
lose
a
couple
extra
parking
spots
to
place
some
trees
there
again,
it
feels
like
the
Popeyes
is
very
isolated
on
the
site
and
disconnected
even
from
that
main
entrance
point
there
I
would
assume
most
users
are
going
to
be
coming
in
there.
It
seems
like
a
simple
way
to
Anchor
the
Popeyes
on
the
site,
the
site
signage,
it's
hard
to
tell
where
that
is
on
the
plan.
A
It
would
be
helpful
to
have
that
on
the
final
landscape
plan
to
understand.
Is
there
a
monument
sign
or
any
other
elements,
and
then
finally
I
think
back
to
Mr?
Stevens
was
mentioning
about
the
canopy
I
think
what
worked
really
well
with
those
three-dimensional,
renderings
and
I
understand
that.
A
That's
a
prototype,
but
I
think
what
made
that
building
special
and
kind
of
held
that
the
the
site
was
that
wrap
around
trellis
and
that
architectural
feature
and
I
think
without
it
I
think
we
were
ending
up
with
a
fairly
standard
element
sitting
out
here
in
the
parking
lot.
I
would
strongly
encourage
incorporating
that
back
into
the
to
the
site,
to
create
that
sense
of
place
for
a
use.
That's
really
just
located
out
here
in
the
parking
lot.
So
those
are
my
comments.
Joe.
C
Thank
you,
Mr
Renault
does
either
the
architect
or
the
engineer
want
to
respond
to
any
of
those
I
think
they
were
just
comments
to
look
at
on
the
modification
of
the
plan.
G
I
mean
I
think
the
comment
about
the
softening
the
corner.
The
retaining
wall
is
a
good
one.
We
can
easily
look
at
that.
We
can
take
a
look
at
potentially
doing
additional
plantings
at
the
entrance,
although
we're
already
pushing
the
limits
on
our
parking,
but
we
can
definitely
explore
that.
G
G
I
think
that's
that
was
it
from
and
then
I
mentioned
earlier
that
The
Pedestrian
connectivity
I
do
I
do
recall
seeing
that
in
the
staff
report.
So
we
are
going
to
look
a
little
bit
closer
about
making
better
connectivity
to
the
sidewalking
tailor
up
to
the
the
existing
building.
C
H
You
very
much
and
in
reference
to
the
the
additional
comments
in
reference
to
the
architecture,
we
can
add
a
Wayne's
coating
to
the
bottom
of
the
building.
If
it's
the,
if
it's
the
board's
desire,
it'll
match
and
color
this
as
the
same
as
the
white
ethos,
it'll
be
the
white
brick,
but
we
could
change
it
out
to
be
the
brick
for
that.
First,
lower
four
feet
as
they
referenced
I
think
four
feet
might
be
a
little
much
I
I.
H
Typically,
when
we've
done
that,
we've
been
asked
to
do
that,
it's
usually
in
the
neighborhood
of
somewhere
between
30
and
36
inches.
Just
because
that's
how
it
breaks
breaks
out
well
around
on
the
side
of
the
building
in
reference
to
incorporating
the
wraparound
canopy.
If
it's
the
desire,
we
can
come
up
with
a
custom
one.
H
What
what
we
do
in
that
situation
when
we
have
that
request
is
if
you
go
back
to
the
rendered
elevation,
where
those
canopies
have
go
to
keep
going
up
one
cup
one
or
two
more
yeah
there
there
that's
perfect!
H
What
we'll
do,
if
you
see
in
the
horizontal
parts
of
that
canopy,
there's
fins
in
there
again,
we
are
in
the
Northeast
Mid-Atlantic
Northeast.
We
do
get
snow,
we
take
the
fins
out,
so
we
could
still
have
the
projecting
canopy
there'll,
obviously
still
be
support
members,
but
the
continuous
fins
in
there
will
be
taken
out
because
again,
I
I
do
remember
when
we
were
doing
work
for
a
different
client
about
six
years
ago.
H
I
was
at
National
Harbor
when
you
guys
had
a
very
bad
storm
and
they
had
a
lot
of
open
great
canopies
like
this.
Well,
all
those
fins
over
at
National
Harbor
were
popping
all
over
the
place.
So
again
in
areas
where
we
have
chances
of
the
snow
buildup
we
take
the
fins
out.
We
can
still
do
the
projecting
canopies
if
it's
such
desired,
but
we
would
take
the
fins
out.
H
So
just
because
again,
it's
a
structural
component
that
and
it's
a
safety
component
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
have
an
issue
with
the
building,
so
we
can
definitely
address
both
of
the
items
that
were
brought
up.
Excellent.
Thank
you
very
much.
H
The
one
the
one
thing
I
just
like
to
say
in
reference
to
the
staff
report,
the
the
question
about
the
the
dumpster
area
being
the
same
material
as
the
building
I,
would
only
ask
the
the
board
consider
it's
going
to
be
the
same
color,
but
as
far
as
materiality
it's
it's
a
it's
a
concrete
block
building,
rather
than
a
combination
of
ethos
and
brick.
The
the
concrete
block
will
stand
up
the
test
of
time
for
the
dumpster
enclosure,
much
better
than
the
other
building
materials,
but
they
will
be
of
the
same
color.
H
C
Thank
you
very
much.
Let's
go
to
Mr
Khan
if
Mr
Khan's
out
there,
it's
your
turn.
M
Yes,
well
I've
been
following
this
pretty
carefully.
I
think
that
I
agree
with
the
staff
report,
as
we've
all
said,
and
there's
really
not
much
more
to
add.
I
think
that
the
discussion
back
and
forth
is
consistent
with
some
of
my
concerns.
I'd
say
the
the
one
thing
on
the
site.
Only
that
I
would
add
is
with
that
to
what
is
the
height
of
that
retaining
wall
along
Taylor
Avenue.
G
M
I
guess
the
concern
is,
is
what
we've
shared,
but
I
think
you
need
to
study
that
pretty
hard
is
what
what
is
The
Pedestrian
access
to
that
from
the
East
as
well,
where
you
really,
if
you
happen
to
park
on
those
parking
spots
on
the
East,
that
you
really
need
to
walk
all
the
way
around
the
side
of
the
building
and
to
get
onto
the
Popeye's
building
itself.
So
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
that
pretty
carefully
and
see
if
there's
some
way
that
we
can
get
really
better
pedestrian
access.
M
Obviously,
handicap
access
is
on
by
foot,
doesn't
work
very
easily,
but
I
think
people
parking
and
getting
onto
this
site
is
a
real
concern.
Otherwise,
I
agree
really
with
everything
and
I
appreciate
the
architect,
offering
some
options
to
what's
been
been
drawn,
which
I
think
will
really
improve
the
project.
C
Excellent,
thank
you,
Mr,
Khan
and
and
from
my
side
many
of
the
comments
have
been
said
so
I'm
not
going
to
repeat
any,
but
I
do
have
just
one
question
to
Mr
Bishop.
So
if,
if
I'm
looking
at
the
dumpster,
if
the
trash
truck
comes
into
the
site
and
accesses
the
dumpster,
how
do
they
get
out
with
the
drive
through
canopies
that
are
currently
shown
on
the
site
plan?
Now.
G
D
C
Thank
you,
okay.
So
that
concludes
the
panel's
comments.
If
I
could
I'd
like
to
ask
one
of
my
panelists
to
make
a
motion
on.
F
C
A
Hyper
I
would
probably
like
to
make
a
motion
that
the
applicant
comes
back
and
answer
some
of
the
questions
from
the
staff
report
and
some
of
the
items
that
have
been
identified
by
the
panel.
So
we
could
see
that
in
more
detail
and
clarity
before
being
able
to
give
an
approval.
C
A
You
gave
me
a
good
a
nice
day
word
a
third
option.
Can
you,
can
you
remind
me
what
the
third
option
was.
C
A
Thank
you,
so
I
I
would
like
to
make
an
emotion
that
the
applicant
that
the
project
comes
back
for
an
additional
review
with
the
second
public
meeting
to
Garner
an
approval
from
the
design
review
panel
foreign.
C
Do
you
have
in
the
motion?
Do
you
want
to
specify
conditions
of
the
staff
report?
Do
you
want
to
buy
any
of
the
comments
that
you've
heard
tonight?
Yeah.
A
I
can
so
so
the
conditions
for
the
applicant
to
address
when
they
come
back
to
the
panel
will
be
to
incorporate
comments
from
the
staff
report.
A
Updating
the
elevations
to
include
the
base
of
brick
I
would
encourage
them
to
review
that
if
it's
thin,
brick
I'm,
not
sure
how
applicable
that's
going
to
be
at
the
base
I'll.
Let
one
of
our
Architects
comment
on
that.
A
K
L
K
I
can
add
to
that
and
and
that's
pertaining
to
the
thin
brick
and
the
apis
terminating
at
the
grade.
I
would
I
would
say
less,
let's
keep
the
48
inches
and
not
the
30
or
30
4
or
36
inches
that
were
that
was
indicated
that
that
the
48
inches
would
really
be
a
good
termination
of
incorporating
the
paneer,
brick
and
and
terminating
a
nice
wrap
around
around
the
building
and
and
and
not
having
the
ethos
and
the
thin
brick
hit.
The
grade.
C
All
right,
so
my
question
is
to
the
Department
of
planning.
Is
that
motion?
That's
on
the
floor,
accurate
enough
for
you.
C
All
right,
thank
you,
Martha,
so
there's
a
motion
on
the
floor
to
have
the
applicant
come
back
for
a
second
public
meeting
while
addressing
the
the
conditions
do.
I
have
a
second.
F
C
C
Okay.
So,
let's
proceed
to
item
number
two,
which
is
825
Delaney
Valley
Road,
the
Fogo
de
Chao
in
the
DT
Towson
District
commercial
review.
If
the
presenter
would
please
introduce
themselves
and
the
floor
is
yours.
C
This
is
the
presenter
available.
C
N
C
N
With
Consolidated
development
services
representing
Fogo
de
show
as
the
the
applicant
for
this
design
review
proposal,
my
role
in
the
project
is
to
hopefully
obtain
this
design
review
panel
approval,
as
well
as
subsequent
construction
permits
for
the
actual
restaurant
conversion.
Also
attending
with
me
this
evening
is
Mr
Joe
orbrusi,
who
is
the
chief
development
officer
for
Fogo
de
show,
Cal
Young
from
Harrison
Architects
and
also
last
but
not
least,
Brian
horsey
and
krishnoth
from
Brookfield
properties
representing
the
mall
ownership.
N
So
I
think,
as
as
you'll
see
in
the
presentation,
The
Proposal
is
to
convert
an
existing
PF
Chang's
Restaurant
to
a
focus,
show
Brazilian
Steakhouse
for
all
those
who
aren't
familiar
with
Focus
shows
concept.
It
is
a
high-end,
fine,
dining
establishment.
They
will
be
offering
interior
and
outdoor
dining
full
bar
valet
service
for
the
patrons
and
as
in
order
to
fully
explain
the
design
concept
and
walk
through
walk
the
panelists
through
the
architectural
elements
that
are
proposed,
I'd
like
to
have
Cal
Young
from
Harrison.
Take
the
lead
on
that
again.
D
N
Do
have
representatives
from
Florida
show
if
we
have
any
operational
questions
and
from
the
mall
ownership,
because
we
want
to
touch
on
some
of
the
exterior
site
modification
elements
that
have
have
been.
O
It
doesn't
look
like
your
pages
are
in
the
same
order.
Sorry,
if
you
could
go
back
up
again
just
to
the
floor
plan.
P
O
O
Is
the
bar
location
and
looking
straight
ahead
in
front
of
you
are
the
grills
for
the
the
meat
for
the
churrasco
Grill
and
then
the
dining
space
is
laid
out
in
front
that
you
see
from
the
front
door
between
the
grill
and
the
front
door,
and
then
the
tower
on
the
left
is
opened
up
with
these
settees
and
then
it
walks
on
out
into
an
enclosed
new
patio
and
that
new
patio
designated
is
the
only
new
construction.
The
rest
is
just
the
renovation
of
the
old
PF
Chang's
facades.
O
O
Right
here
this
is
looking
at
the
front
door:
entry
off
the
sidewalk.
Our
proposal
is
just
to
paint
the
upper
White.
The
upper
brick
I
think
it's
a
CMU
paint
it
white
and
then
on
the
tower
element
itself,
where
we're
creating
the
new
patio.
That's
a
glass
storefront
system,
segmented,
and
then
it
has
backlit
Moz
panels
above
that
are
in
a
bronze
color,
with
a
warm
glow,
a
new
roof
put
on
top
of
that
new
section
of
the
patio
only
and
then
the
existing
facade
on
the
curve
and
the
existing
facade
over
this
Tower.
O
Where
you
see
the
Fogo
de
show
sign
that
is
just
re-clad
with
a
product
called,
not
wood
and
then
the
block
below
it
that
was
existing.
That's
painted
a
charcoal
color,
so
very
much
using
what
was
there
before
and
not
really
changing
it
physically,
just
dressing
it
up.
Applying
Fogo
de
shows,
signage
outdoor
patio,
furniture,
umbrellas,
some
planters
and
some
exterior
lighting
scroll
to
the
next
View.
O
O
O
I
think
that's
the
last
few
selling
new
Planters,
the
sconces
backlit
panels,
the
painted
side,
the
tarp.
What
do
you
call
it?
Cmu
siding
painted
charcoal
and
the
upper
painted
white
proposed
exterior
materials
include
the
paints,
the
two
paint
colors,
the
not
wood,
siding
the
metal
panels
and
the
exterior
lighting,
Planters
and
rails.
O
Presentation
goes
further
into
presenting
the
signage
and
the
signed
locations.
This
is
the
true
elevation
one
corner.
True
elevation,
the
north
side.
O
Sorry
I'm
on
mute.
This
is
the
proposed
sign
package
and
it
shows
the
size,
layouts
and
type
of
lighting
that
will
be
placed
within
the
sign
package
on
the
building
proposed
for
the
building
Brian
what'd.
You
have
in
mind
next
for
the
presentation.
N
If
you
could
describe
for
everyone
Cal
the
you
know,
the
the
thought
process
behind
the
the
new
outdoor
dining
area,
particularly
the
The,
increased
amount
of
glazing,
some
of
the
the
features
as
far
as
improving
not
only
the
transparency
of
the
restaurant
overall,
but
really
improving
the
connectivity,
I
think
between
the
the
restaurant
patrons
and
the
and
the
the
pedestrians
of
be
a
much
more
open
concept
than
what
was
previously
there
for
the
for
the
PF
Changs
or
create
a
much
more
probably
Lively,
Street
feel
and
kind
of
again
a
connection
between
the
the
restaurant
and
the
the
pedestrians
that's
not
currently,
or
previously.
N
There
I
think.
That's
I
think
it's
important
to
kind
of
emphasize
that.
O
This
current
line
right
here
was
the
exterior
patio
for
the
PF
Changs
and
we're
using
that
line
limit
and
taking
that
space
and
enclosing
it
with
the
storefront
system,
like
a
black
Warehouse
old
Warehouse
system,
with
the
black
steel
Sash,
and
then
this
backlit
lighting
panel,
that's
sort
of
the
Branded
pattern
and
it's
in
a
warm
2700
Kelvin
light
glow,
and
it
should
be
a
nice
Lantern
for
the
corner
and
the
siding
that
goes
on
the
existing
curve
of
the
tower.
O
That's
on
there
with
the
Fogo
sign
and
then
the
plantings
above
and
the
faux
plantings
that
are
above
on
the
wood,
slat
Tower
again.
The
Fogo
de
show
finishes
are
from
that
black
shadow
line
down,
starting
with
the
white
paint,
did
the
existing
block
and
then
the
new
siding
and
then
the
black
painted
charcoal.
N
So,
in
addition
to
the
elements
that
Cal
just
explained,
you'll
see
that,
in
order
to
expand
the
facade
to
allow
for
the
the
glass
enclosed
dining
area,
there
are
modifications
needed
to
the
existing
ground
level
Planters
and
that's
one
of
the
items
that
staff
had
some
recommendation
on.
As
far
as
conditional
approval.
That
would
like
to
we'd
like
to
talk
about
again.
N
That's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
have
representatives
from
the
mall
ownership
and
representatives
from
Fogo
de
show
kind
of
better
understand,
staff's
intent
on
imposing
those
recommended
conditions
and
some
of
the
questions
or
concerns
that
Focus
show
might
have
in
terms
of
complying
with
those.
N
So
I
guess
I
would
direct
the
question
to
you
to
Marta
as
our
as
our
planner.
If
there
could
be
a
little
bit
more
explanation
as
to
the
thought
process
behind
the
comment
about
removing
the
some
of
the
existing
Planters
and
then
the
these
recommendation
for
the
the
alternative
new
plantings
around
that
around
that
rounded
facade
area.
C
Yeah
so
I'll
jump
in
as
as
chair
and
and
say.
Does
that
conclude
your
presentation
and
and
from
there
if
it
does
we'll
we'll
then
proceed
to
public
comment
and
then
the
staff
report.
N
That's
the
extent
of
the
the
comments
and
the
you
know.
My
portion
of
the
presentation
before
we
we
close
I
just
want
to
give
Mr
Joe
Brucie
from
Fogo
de
show
the
opportunity
to
add
anything
that
he
he
might
feel
is
pertinent.
J
He's
in
as
a
panelist
you
may
have
to
un
promote
him.
I
mean
he's
in
as
an
attendee
yeah.
J
P
Okay,
wait
there
we
go
I'm
over
here
thinking.
How
am
I
gonna
speak
to
this
group,
because
I
cannot
meet
myself.
So
thank
you
for
for
promoting
me
to
the
panelists.
C
P
You
and
I
said
I
was
sitting
here
thinking
how
am
I
going
to
speak,
because
I
cannot
mute
myself,
but
thank
you
for
promoting
me
to
a
panelist.
We
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
present
to
this
group
and
we're
very
excited
about
this
community
and
this
in
this
project.
P
We
think
we've
gone
to
the
exterior
of
the
building
completely
beautified
it
removing
those
two
large
horses
and
creating
something
very
beautiful
for
for
Towson.
You
know
again,
the
staff's
comments
were
minimal.
Only
the
only
thing
that
we
wanted
to
discuss
with
this
panel
is
those
Landscaping
planters
that
are
existing
in
the
sidewalks.
P
Their
recommendation
was
to
remove
those
you
know,
I
suppose
it
can
be
done.
I
think
it
would
be
a
mall
issue
from
the
Brookfield
group,
but
there
is
one
planter
that
I
want
to
point
out
that
really
isn't
clear
on
the
drawings,
but
it's
around
a
light
pole
or
a
traffic
signal
pull
and
there's
a
crosswalk,
I
guess
button.
We
would
push
the
button
to
cross
across
the
block.
That's
a
different
style
plant
or
a
little
bit
smaller.
That
I
would
recommend.
P
C
Well,
thank
you
very
much
to
the
development
team.
So
at
this
time
the
floor
will
be
open
to
any
public
comments.
C
Two
minutes
each
or
five
minutes
for
a
community
group
Marta.
Is
anybody
signed
up
to
speak.
B
C
Know:
okay,
thank
you
very
much
for
confirming.
So
since
there's
no
speakers
from
the
public
that
are
signed
up,
this
closes
the
the
public
comment
period.
At
this
point,
let's
proceed
forward
to
the
staff
report.
Mark
said:
would
you
please
read
the
department
of
planning
staff
report?
Yes,.
B
Thank
you,
Joe,
so
be
prepared
to
stop
report
planning
department
prepare
the
stop
report
based
on
the
downtown
downtown
thousand
overlay
District
guidelines
and
based
on
the
Baltimore
County
this
morning,
called
regulation,
section
32-4-20382v
and
section
32-4-204f,
and
this
code
requires
that
any
development
in
the
total
statistic
be
reviewed
by
the
Baltimore
County
design
review
panel.
So
I
will
start
with
environmental
sustainability
staff
recommendations
is
to
approve
of
environmental
sustainability,
block
configurations
that
recommends
approval
of
the
proposed
block
configuration
site
design
parking.
B
Remove
the
existing
outdoor
planting
areas
located
around
the
extended
indoor
patio
and
provide
new
planting
areas
or
outdoor
Planters
around
the
patio
similar
to
the
existing
Planters
currently
located
near
the
existing
entrance,
see
below
for
your
reference
in
green
Sean,
proposed
location
for
the
blending
areas
or
outdoor
planters
number
three
provide
bike
racks
on
the
street
level
in
regards
to
building
principles,
architecture
staff
recommends
approval
in
regards
to
building
materials
or
staff,
recommends
approval,
subject
to
the
following
condition:
provide
details
for
the
type
of
glass
to
be
used
for
the
proposed
indoor
patio
in
regards
to
lighting
staff
recommends
approval
And
in
regards
to
signage
staff,
recommends
approval
and
this
concludes
our
staff
report.
J
Yes,
Jennifer
effect,
if
I
just
make
a
point
of
clarification,
since
it's
brought
up
already
by
the
applicants
regarding
these
planters
out
at
the
corner,
and
while
we
recognize
that
it's
really
not
the
applicant's
responsibility,
it's
more,
the
mall
property
because
they're
extending
the
interior
out
it's
causing
these
Planters
to
become
there.
J
There's
some
severe
pedestrian
pinch
points
and
these
these
lipped
planted
areas
were
done
in
the
early
90s
throughout
Towson
and
where
opportunities
have
been
coming
up,
we
have
been
trying
to
remedy
those
trip
hazards
throughout
Towson,
so
just
for
the
applicants,
understanding
and
for
the
panel's
understanding,
I,
don't
think
we're
really
you
know
it
and
we
understand
there's
some
coordination,
that's
required
with
the
mall
ownership,
so
you
know
we're
just
pointing
it
out
that
we
would
like
to
see
somehow
this
could
be
worked
out.
We're
not
saying
it's.
J
You
know
it
should
hold
up
the
project
per
se,
but
of
some
sort
of
coordination
could
take
place
so
that
we
could
remedy.
As
I
said,
these
are
recognized
these
days
as
as
tripping
hazards,
that's
kind
of
why
we're
bringing
it
to
everybody's
attention.
C
Excellent,
thank
you
Jennifer
for
clarifying
sure
before
we
get
to
the
panel
comments,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
back
over
to
the
applicant
and,
and
somebody
asked
the
question
about
the
Planters.
Does
that
address
your
concern
on
that
and
does
that?
Do
you
understand
it
further
now.
N
Yeah
I
think
that
that
was
very
much.
That
was
very
helpful.
The
kind
of
the
tripping
Hazard
concern
and
some
of
the
pinch
points
weren't
entirely
clear
to
us
before,
so
that
makes
sense
I'm
confident
we
can
come
up
come
up
with
some
sort
of
a
design
compromise
that
will
be
both
safe
for
pedestrians
and
I.
Think
probably
agreeable
to
both
Focus
show
and
the
mall
ownership.
But
I
can't
speak
for
for
everyone,
but
I
do
feel
like
we
can
come
up
to
come
with
a
a
solution.
C
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay,
we're
gonna!
Go
to
the
to
the
panel
discussion.
Now
we're
going
to
go
in
reverse
order
from
last
time.
So,
let's
start
with
Mr
Khan.
M
There
we
go
so
thank
you,
I
guess
the
I
think
once
again,
I
think
the
staff
report
has
done
a
very
good
job
of
addressing
some
of
the
issues
that
are
appropriate
here.
I
think
candidly,
with
respect
to
resolving
what
this
little
discussion
about
the
trip
Hazard,
which
I
know,
can
be
resolved
and
I
think,
certainly
in
the
interest
of
everyone
that
I
thought
I
would
support
this
project.
M
I
think
it's
obviously
a
very,
very
visible
corner
and
I
think
certainly
something
like
this
project
with
the
lighting
and
access
at
night
Etc
will
be
very
successful.
Excellent.
C
Thank
you,
Mr
Khan,
Mr,
Renault,.
A
Hey
Joe
thanks
yeah
I,
Echo
Donald's
comments
as
well.
I
think
this
will
be
a
great
addition
to
the
corner.
Gateway
I
do
concur
with
the
staff
report.
I
do
think.
The
removal
of
the
Planters
will
greatly
improve
the
corner
and
open
that
up.
It
has
to
feel
a
bit
tight.
It
does
seem
like
the
plan
shown,
does
not
match
the
existing
site
condition.
A
It
does
look
like
a
traffic
arm
or
something
may
have
come
in
there,
so
a
portion
of
that
probably
would
need
to
remain,
but
I
think
the
only
piece
that's
missing
is
you
know,
with
kind
of
an
important
corner.
It
looks
like
some
of
the
benches
came
out
of
that
space.
It
would
be
nice
to
reincorporate
some
seating
around
this
corner.
I
could
see
this
being
a
popular
place
to
sit
and
wait.
A
You
know
if
you're
waiting
for
a
table,
so
just
it'd
be
nice
to
have
a
sense
that
you
could
come
and
sit
there,
even
though
you
may
not,
and
then
finally,
just
if
we're
pulling
planters
out
just
you
know,
a
lot
of
care
needs
to
be
done
to
you
know,
remove
and
replace
or
patch
and
repair
paving
materials.
We
don't
end
up
with
something
that
looks
like
it's
just
been
stuck
back
together,
so
it
it
would
just
be
nice
to
understand
what
can
be
done
to
keep
that
corner
cohesive
while
removing
the
Planters
those.
C
C
Mr
Renault:
let's
go
to
Mr
Sharma.
L
C
Great
thanks,
Mr
Sharma,
let's
go
to
miss
sauce.
E
Wearing
this
project,
I
think
it's
well
thought
out
and
I
agree
with
my
fellow
panelists
comments
and
the
staff
recommendations,
the
more
green,
the
better
as
a
landscape
architect
and
in
lighting
to
set
the
Ambiance
I.
Think
it's
going
to
be
a
great
addition
to
that
area.
I
can't
wait
to
see
it
built.
Thank
you.
K
Okay,
I
guess
I.
Everyone
has
said
what
I
really
feel
and
that's
basically
that
that's
a
very
nice
expansion
on
on
such
a
prominent
Corner.
It's
it's
going
to
work
well,
not
only
during
the
day,
but
definitely
during
evening
and
night
time.
My
my
only
comment
I
have
is
on
that
expansion.
Are
there
any
what's
on
the
roof
or
are
there
any
units
on
that
roof?
K
F
C
P
K
That's
all
I
needed
to
hear
I
just
it
was
not
clear.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
it
was
clear
so
other
than
that
you
know.
As
you
know,
the
planner
issue
has
been
talked
about
and
I
agree
wholeheartedly
that
it
definitely
creates
some
pinch
points
as
as
far
as
pedestrian
circulation
and
that,
when
the,
when
the
a
design
solution
is
is,
is
still
it's
developed
that
is
it's
developed
in
in
in
it.
It's
gonna
really
maintain
that
design
intent.
That's
already
there
and
not
become
something.
K
That's
a
patchwork,
random
happening,
because
that
again
that's
a
very
prominent
corner
and,
and
it
needs
to
be
the
the
utmost
sensitivity
when
addressing
the
solution.
That's
all,
but
it's
it's
definitely
I
have
no
other
comments
that
it's
done
well.
C
Excellent
thanks,
Mr,
Stevens
and
and
from
my
standpoint,
the
last
panelist
here
I
think
this
is
very
very
well
done
from
the
materials
to
the
color
to
the
signage.
C
I
am
currently
across
the
street
and
I'm
looking
out
my
window
to
the
PF
Changs,
and
this
will
be
an
absolutely
significant
Improvement
to
this
to
this
main
gateway
to
Towson.
So
I
have
I,
have
no
further
comments
from
my
side
at
this
point,
so
I'll
open
it
up
to
my
panel
members.
Would
anybody
like
to
make
a
motion
at
this
point.
M
Make
a
motion
that
we
approve
the
submission
for
this
project,
subject
to
the
items
that
have
been
raised
by
the
staff
report,
subject
to
further
Clarity
and
review
with
the
developer
and
the
staff
around
the
Planters,
and
that
the
detailing
of
this
Plaza
that
be
looked
at
very
carefully
as
this
new
addition
requires
some
kind
of
foundation
and
how
that
impacts.
M
The
materials
that
go
back
in,
but
assuming
that
the
intent
is
to
replicate
the
circle.
That's
there
and
the
various
banding.
When
it's
finished,
then
I
think
the
staff
should
review
those
details
as
well,
but
I.
Think
overall
I
recommend
that
we
approve
this
project.
C
B
L
C
C
C
Great,
thank
you.
Matt
I'm
gonna
ask
for
a
vote
all
in
favor,
say
aye
all
right,
I
as
well.
Any
opposed
to
the
motion.
D
C
Okay,
so
at
this
time,
as
the
chair,
I
will
need
to
recuse
myself
from
this
public
meeting
for
the
agenda
item
number
three
due
to
my
affiliation
with
the
development
team.
So
with
this
Mr
Matt
Reynold
will
fill
in
his
acting
chair
in
my
absence
and
I
will
mute
and
turn
my
camera
off.
Thank
you.
A
Thanks
Joe
good
evening,
my
name
is
Matt
Reynold
I'll
be
filling
in
for
Joe
for
the
third
and
final
agenda
item
for
today,
and
that
will
be
item
number
three
on
our
agenda,
which
is
714
Delaney
Valley
Road
Bank
of
America
DT,
Towson,
District
commercial
review.
At
this
time,
I'll
ask
the
presenters
to
introduce
yourselves.
The
floor
is
yours.
Q
Good
evening,
everyone,
my
name
Chrissy
Bauer,
with
Fuller
engineering-
it's
my
pleasure
to
present
the
proposal
Redevelopment
for
the
Bank
of
America
project
located
at
714,
Delaney
Valley,
Road
Marta.
If
you
could
go
ahead
and
flip
to
Slide
Five
for
me,
I
will
introduce
the
development
team
real
quick.
So
again
my
name
is
Chrissy.
Bauer
I
have
Joe
Burkhart
who's,
a
landscape
project
manager
with
bowler
engineering.
We
have
Lloyd
nurkowitz
on
the
line
who
is
with
CBRE,
who
also
represents
the
property
owner
which
is
Bank
of
America.
Q
Then
we
have
Melissa
sanakinis
with
interior
Architects,
then
moving
on
so
this,
as
mentioned,
this
property
is
located
on
Delaney
Valley
Road,
apparently
we're
all
about
Improvement
Delaney
Valley
Corridor
this
evening.
This
property
is
zoned
vmdt
for
downtown
Towson,
as
mentioned
Marta.
If
you
could
scroll
to
slide
six
for
me,
please
thank
you.
This
property
is
located
adjacent
to
the
Delaney,
the
Delaney
Plaza
shopping
center.
Q
Q
The
both
of
the
adjacent
property
owners
were
part
of
the
initial
discussions
when
we
were
planning
this
Redevelopment
and
they
did
both
provide
letters
of
support
for
the
project
which
hopefully
were
passed
along
to
the
development
or
to
the
design
panel
Marta.
If
you
could
continue
on
to
the
zoning
map,
as
mentioned,
this
is
Zone
bmdt,
Downtown
Towson,
we'll
continue
on
to
the
photo
location
map
kind
of
go
through
some
of
these
individual
photos.
Q
Marta,
if
you
could
continue
on
here,
call
your
attention
to
a
couple
items
here
that
we'll
see
a
little
bit
better
when
we
look
at
the
site
plan.
But
these
are
the
existing
conditions.
There
is
an
existing
retaining
wall
located
at
what
I'll
call
the
what
we're
calling
the
plan
west
of
the
of
the
existing
Bank
you'll
see,
there's
some
various
trees
and
vegetation
that
do
overhang
the
site
right
now.
Q
I'll
also
call
your
attention
to
photo
4
existing
conditions
right
now,
there's
a
lack
of
connectivity
to
the
existing
Center
there,
no
real
pedestrian
connectivity
moving
on
to
the
next
page
Marta
for
me
again
call
your
attention
to
slide
to
picture
five,
that
lack
of
connectivity
there's
no
real
sidewalk
that
continues
on
into
the
center
photo.
Q
Six
again,
you
can
see
some
of
that
vegetation
and
I
think
this
photo
gives
a
good
preview
of
the
slope
one
where
those
existing
trees
are
there's
a
pretty
significant
slope
of
about
one
to
one
and
then
the
site
itself
actually
has
a
significant
fall.
Approximately
six
to
eight
feet
kind
of
going
from
left
to
right
photo.
Eight
just
call
your
attention.
There
is
an
existing
bus
stop
here
at
in
front
of
the
site,
and
there
is
currently
no
seating
or
anything
like
that
at
the
front
Marta.
Q
We
can
continue
on
to
the
next
slide,
not
too
much
to
focus
on
here,
but
just
pointing
again
to
item
12
there's
an
existing
connection
to
the
that's,
the
only
real
connection
to
the
shopping
center,
which
we'll
discuss
a
little
bit
further
as
we
move
on.
Q
This
slide
just
shows
the
existing
conditions,
there's
a
pretty
small
Bank
building
there
now,
which
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
slide
and
take
a
look
at
the
proposed
site
conditions.
So
we
are
proposing
to
redevelop
a
site
with
approximately
30,
just
a
shy
of
3
700
square
feet
new
bank,
as
mentioned
previously,
there
isn't
really
any
of
that
site
connectivity.
Q
So
if
you
look
Plan
East,
which
is
actually
the
north,
but
we
are
adding
sidewalk
and
improving
that
connect
condition
there
increasing
pedestrian
connectivity
and
safety
they're
from
a
parking
standpoint
in
the
downtown
Towson
area,
there
is
no
parking
requirement.
However,
we
are
providing
a
total
of
17
spaces,
which
includes
one
Ada
space.
If
we
were
to
provide
parking
at
Baltimore
County
code,
it's
3.3,
4
000,
so
we
are
providing
greater
than
the
13
required
Spaces
by
Baltimore
County
code.
Q
I'll
call
your
attention
to
the
plan.
East
there
too.
That
area
we
did
provide
some
increased
Landscaping
in
that
area.
That
was
following
some
meetings
that
we
met
with
the
Department
of
planning
and
with
Jim
Herman
of
DPR
to
discuss.
Landscaping
I
made
some
adjustment.
It's
based
on
their
suggestions,
I
think
we
can
go
ahead
and
move
on
from
there.
Q
Here's
our
overall
landscape
plan
dancing
as
well,
be
in
accordance
with
Baltimore
County
landscape
manual
requirements,
so
I
don't
think
we
need
to
focus
too
much
there
and
then
we
can
go
on
and
talk
through.
Some
of
the
renderings
keep
scrolling
there.
Q
Some
general
renderings
of
the
plantings,
one
thing
and
I
forgot
to
call
your
attention
to
in
the
site
plan,
but
this
is
a
good,
a
good
one
as
well.
In
regards
to
the
bus,
stop,
we
are
proposing
a
seat
wall
in
that
area
to
provide
a
place
for
people
that
are
utilizing.
The
bus
stop
to
have
a
place
to
rest
based
on
the
existing
sidewall
conditions,
more
bits
of
a
five
foot
sidewalk
from
the
tree
pit
to
that
wall,
about
eight
foot
from
the
curb
to
that
Seawall,
ultimata
and
then
scrolling
on.
Q
We
have
some
precedent,
images
general,
for
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
here.
We
can
continue
to
scroll
there.
Q
We
are
providing
bicycle
parking.
This
just
highlights
that
connectivity
there
continue
scrolling
for
me,
MARTA,
there's
some
precedent:
images
just
from
Landscaping
perspective,
the
Eda
and
the
bike
rack,
as
well
as
the
seat
wall,
just
to
kind
of
give
the
visual
of
what
we're
hoping
to
accomplish
there.
Q
Q
It's
a
variable
width
height
from
three
feet:
to
about
eight
feet:
for
anticipating
the
approximate
maximum
height
new
height
of
that
wall,
to
be
about
18
feet
and
considering
that
this
project
is
kind
of
at
the
main
gateway
or
entrance
to
the
downtown
Towson
area
we
did
con.
We
were
proposing
a
mural
concept,
we
haven't
secured
an
artist,
but
it's
just
some
concept.
Precedent
images,
one
piece
that
I
did
want
to
touch
on
is
in
the
staff
report
regarding
the
green
wall.
Q
That
was
actually
an
item
that
we
did
consider,
but
due
to
the
orientation
of
the
proposed
wall
it
is
North
facing,
it
would
definitely
be
a
challenge
for
appropriate
growth.
From
that
standpoint,
so
we
decided
to
proceed
with
the
wall
and
again,
as
I
mentioned.
This
is
just
a
conceptual
ideal
point
understand
that
we'll
have
some
additional
design
to
go
through
there
Marta.
Q
If
you
can
continue
on
for
me
and
then
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
kind
of
pass
off
the
virtual
microphone
to
Melissa
who
will
go
over
our
architectural
features
and
materials
for
the
project.
R
You
Chrissy
Marta,
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
R
So
this
is
a
rendering
view
showing
the
northwest
corner
of
the
building,
as
well
as
the
main
entry
Tower
to
align
with
the
DRP
guidelines.
Our
goal
was
to
emphasize
this
main
entrance
through
the
use
of
a
heightened
entry,
Tower
and
vertical
paneling.
You
can
also
see
some
taller
glazing,
that's
shown
on
the
North
facade
and
that
emphasizes
the
large
open
waiting
area.
That's
on
the
interior
of
this
space,
you'll
also
notice,
as
we
go
around
to
the
other
facades.
R
R
This
view
shows
the
northeast
corner,
which
is
on
Delaney
Valley
Road,
as
well
as
the
center
entrance.
So
you
can
see
on
this
beside.
We
have
those
smaller,
more
horizontal
fenestration
openings
that
are
used
at
the
private
offices
along
Delaney,
Valley
Road,
and
this
is
surrounded
by
a
warmer
wood.
Look
paneling
than
the
canopies
are
clad
in
a
clear
anodized
metal
system,
and
then
we
have
white
satin
metal,
cladding,
that's
used
in
the
parapet.
Above
this
view,
you
can
also
see
that
proposed
seat
wall
along
the
bus,
stop
area
and
go
to
the
next
slide.
R
So
this
is
a
view
of
the
southeast
corner
of
the
building
and
the
exit
from
our
site
onto
Delaney
Valley
Road.
You
can
see
here
we
have
a
charcoal
stucco
assembly,
that's
used
primarily
along
the
rear
of
the
building
and
that
ATM
drive
up
area
and
we
did
raise
the
canopy
over
this
drive
through
ATM
to
kind
of
align
with
the
top
parapet
cladding,
since
this
is
the
elevation
that
we
do
have
a
significant
grade
change
and
go
to
the
next
slide.
R
This
is
the
floor
plan
of
our
space,
which
roughly
is
3
700
square
feet.
You
can
see
that
main
entrance
at
the
northwest
corner
and
that
features
a
24-hour
vestibule
with
two
walk-up
ATMs,
and
then
that
opens
into
the
main
waiting
area.
And
then
you
can
see
those
private
consultation
offices
that
are
along
Delaney
Valley
Road.
We
also
have
a
secondary
egress
exit
to
the
parking
area
on
the
west
side.
R
These
again
are
some
that
is
kind
of
showing
up
a
little
funny
in
this
video,
but
these
are
rendered
elevations
that
do
show
the
overall
material
palette,
so
it
does
and
using
the
various
Administration
openings
in
the
parapet,
Heights.
R
R
So
this
is
proposed
lighting
throughout
the
site,
so
the
top
left
will
be
the
pole.
Lighting
that's
used
in
the
parking
area.
Top
right
will
be
wall
packs
and
that
will
be
mounted
at
the
ATM,
the
rear
and
Main
entries
for
security
purposes,
and
then
the
bottom,
linear
lighting
will
be
used
below
the
canopy
all
around
the
building
and
at
the
drive
up
ATM
and
go
to
the
next
one.
R
So
these
again
are
just
those
building
materials
we
discussed,
so
we
have
aluminum
glazing,
the
charcoal
stucco
and
then
three
different
metal
clotting
finishes
of
the
clear
satin
anodized
finish:
White
Satin
finish
and
the
wood
look
finish
and
go
to
the
next
slide.
I
think
the
pack,
the
next
package
a
few
sides
are
our
sign
is
our
site
signage,
so
the
site
plan
you
can
go
to
the
other
next
slide.
R
So
this
is
our
site
plan
of
the
various
signage,
so
we
will
have
main
building
and
signage
some
site
wayfinding
and
there's
currently
a
pylon
sign,
that's
at
the
bottom
northeast
corner,
so
that
one
will
be
removed
and
we'll
be
relocating.
That
kind
of
to
the
southeast
corner
by
the
site
exit
and
go
to
the
next
slide.
R
And
this
is
the
concept
for
the
new
pylon
that
will
be
at
the
northeast
corner
of
the
site
and
go
to
the
next
slide,
and
then
these
you
can
kind
of
scroll
through
the
next
few.
These
are
showing
where
the
the
main
signage
will
be
located
on
the
North
facade,
keep
going
the
South
to
the
side
will
not
have
any
proposed
signage
and
then
the
eighth
that's
facing
Delaney
Valley
Road
go
to
the
next
one,
and
this
is
the
West
facade
facing
that
parking
area.
R
And
this
is
just
some
details
on
the
the
main
signage,
which
will
be
a
facelit
channel
letter,
go
to
the
next
slide
again
similar
details
for
the
signage
along
Delaney,
Valley,
Road
and
the
parking
area
and
go
to
the
next
slide,
and
this
is
just
showing
signage
at
the
main
entrance,
which
will
have
some
Ada
information,
ATM
information
and
hours
of
information.
You
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
R
A
Great,
thank
you
very
much
at
this
time.
The
floor
will
open
for
public
input
and
feedback
from
the
community.
If
you're
representing
a
community
group,
you
will
have
five
minutes
to
speak.
Those
who
do
not
represent
a
community
group
will
have
two
minutes
to
speak.
Are
there
any
speakers
they're
wishing
to
speak.
A
B
32-4-204F
and
in
compliance
with
downtown
thousand
overlay
District
design
guidelines,
so
I'll
start
with
environmental
sustainability.
B
At
this
time,
staff
cannot
recommend
approval
of
environmental
system
sustainability,
subject
to
the
following
conditions:
number
one
indicate
how
the
proposed
design
will
comply
with
lead
and
or
ngps
standards.
Number
two
demonstrate
how
store
Model
Management
will
be
addressed.
Number
three
show
on
the
plan.
All
existing
trees
and
trees
to
be
removed.
Preservation
of
existing
trees
is
strongly
encouraged.
Mature
trees
with
the
diameter
of
breast
height
of
10,
inches
or
more
shall
be
18.
B
in
regards
to
block
configuration
site
site
design.
Staff
recommends
approval,
subject
to
the
following
conditions:
provide
number
one,
provide
a
connectivity
diagram
and
show
pedestrian
and
vehicle
circulation
throughout
the
Bank
of
America
site
and
from
the
bank
to
the
Delaney
Plaza.
There
is
an
existing
connection
stairs
from
the
bank
to
the
Delaney
Plaza,
keep
the
existing
connection
or
incorporate
a
new
one
and
show
it
on
the
plan.
B
Number
two
provide
payment
details
for
the
for
the
two
proposed
crosswalks
consider
different
color
payment
patterns
to
distinguish
the
sidewalk
from
dog
crosswalk
number
three
provide
enhanced
architecture
and
landscaping
for
the
building
facade,
facing
Delaney
Valley
Road
and
for
the
northeast
corner
of
the
building.
Number
four
provide
details
for
the
proposed
retaining
wall
label
bottom
and
top
spot
elevations
indicate
materials
and
dimensions.
Number
five
consider
a
green
wall
instead
of
a
mural
number
six
coordinate
with
State
Highway
Administration
regarding
installation
of
the
bus,
shelter,
provide
location
and
dimensions
of
the
bus,
shelter
and
label
it.
B
On
the
plan
in
regards
to
the
mural,
a
staff
differs
approval
of
the
mural
design
and
or
the
decision,
whether
it
be
a
mural
or
a
pretty
involved
of
the
design
review
panel
in
regards
to
parking
staff,
recommends
approval
of
the
proposed
parking
subject
to
the
following
conditions:
number
one
provide
parking
requirements
for
the
site:
number
two
provide
and
label
on
the
plan.
The
liking
structures
at
the
rear
of
the
parking
lot
for
safety
in
regards
to
downtown
open
space
staff
recommends
approval.
B
A
proposed
open
spray
is
subject
to
the
following
conditions:
reward
number
one
provide
a
more
detailed
site
plan,
show
Dimensions,
colors
and
materials
for
the
sidewalk
and
the
crosswalks
number
two
revive
calculation
and
show
on
the
plan
that
the
open
space
requirement
is
met.
Five
percent
of
gross
acreage
of
the
development
site
number
three
coordinate
with
State
Highway
Administration
regarding
installation
of
the
bus,
shelter,
provide
location
and
dimensions
for
the
bus,
shelter
and
label
it
on
the
plan.
B
Requirements
are
met
in
the
cost
of
building
principles
and
architecture
start
the
first
approval
of
the
proposed
architecture
to
the
design
review
panel,
subject
to
the
following
conditions:
number
one
provide
enhanced
architecture
and
landscaping
for
the
building
facade,
facing
Delaney,
Valley
Road
and
for
the
northeast
corner,
or
the
building
number
two
indicate
if
there
will
be
any
equipment
located
on
the
rooftop.
If
so,
it
should
be
fully
screened
from
the
street
view,
and
the
screening
should
be
expressed
and
integrated
as
a
part
of
the
building's
composition.
B
Number
three
correct
drawings
on
page
27
of
the
submittal
package
and
provide
accurate
elevations
in
regards
to
building
materials.
Stop
the
first
approval
of
the
proposed
building
materials
to
the
design
of
new
panel
subject
to
the
following
condition:
consider
use
of
high
quality
natural
materials.
Instead
of
developers,
all
paneling
systems
in
regards
to
lighting
staff
recommends
approval.
B
The
proposed
lighting
subject
to
the
following
conditions:
number
one
indicate
if
any
light
fixtures
are
proposed
on
the
building,
if
so
provide
details
and
show
and
label
it
on
the
architectural
elevation
drawings
number
two
provide
and
label
on
the
plan
liking.
Structures
at
the
rear
of
the
parking
for
a
lot
for
safety
in
regards
to
signage
staff
recommends
approval
of
the
proposed
signage,
and
this
concludes
our
staff
report.
Thank
you.
Matt.
A
Yeah,
thank
you.
Marta
appreciate
your
review
at
this
time.
We'll
move
to
the
our
panel
members
for
discussion
we'll
go
in
reverse
the
order
here.
Mr
Khan.
Would
you
like
to
go
first.
M
Q
So
we
have
not
engaged
if
you're
referring
to
the
mural,
the
mural
correct.
We
have
not
engaged
in
artists,
so
that's
still
just
purely
conceptual
president
images,
the
actual
design
will
have
to
be
completed
and
then
we'll
need
to
be
presented
at
that
time,
once
decided
where.
Q
The
large
retaining
wall,
there's
I
think
might
be
a
good
idea
Marta
if
you
could
go
to
the
existing.
Actually,
you
know
what
Mario
that
be
is
perfect,
that
one
right
there
yeah,
but
if
you
could
scroll
over
but
there's
the
retaining
wall,
that's
between
the
cemetery
and
the
existing
bank,
I.
M
Right
very
good,
so
again,
I
think
the
the
staff
has
has
hit
on
most
of
the
things
that
I
would
be
concerned
about
with
the
project.
I
think
the
it's
such
a
busy
area,
but
I
think
that
visually
but
I
think
the
the
concern
of
of
the
Delaney
Valley
Road
and
the
difficulty
of
getting
access
that
would
that
would
obviously
be
on
the
on
the
north
side
of
the
building.
M
But
the
Delaney
Valley
roadside
I
think
needs
further
study
to
make
it
a
little
more
appealing,
particularly
since
the
the
Bank
of
America
sign
doesn't
appear
on
that
corner
either,
but
I
think,
overall,
with
respect
to
the
staff
comments,
I
think
that
I
would
agree
with
with
all
of
those
for
further
discussion
a
lot
of
those
I'm.
Sorry
right.
M
Okay,
there
is
a
sign,
but
I
still
think
that
facade
is,
is
weak
and
needs
to
be
looked
at
as
something
that
can
be
a
little
more
inviting
from
the
street
side
from
the
ongoing
traffic.
M
But
I
do
agree
with
the
with
the
staff
report.
In
terms
of
all
these
other
items,
which
I
think
are
something
that
could
be
readily
reviewed
directly
with
the
staff.
A
Thank
you,
Miss
sauce.
E
Yes,
thank
you
in
reviewing
the
landscape
plan,
it
looks
appropriate
like
some
of
the
materials
good,
there's,
there's
adequate
sight
lighting.
It
looks
like,
according
to
the
light
locations
on
the
plane,
so
I
have
no
further
comments.
Aside
from
what
my
fellow
colleagues
say
in
the
staff
report.
K
Okay,
I
agree
wholeheartedly
with
the
staff
report
and
what
has
been
previously
mentioned
by
Donald
Cannon
and
others
in
particular
the
that
retaining
wall
with
it
being
18
feet,
High
I'm
not
really
sure
about
the
mural,
but
you
know
maybe
a
daughters
can
come
up
with
something,
but
maybe
you
still
should
think
about
how
you
can
soften
it
up
with
some
type
of
greenery,
some
type
of
vegetation
that
may
work,
even
though
it's
it's
it's
facing
north
I
mean
that
it's
it's
it's
it's
worth,
you
know
exploring
and
trying
to
do
something.
K
That's
very
appealing
there
that
that's
all
it's
you
know,
18
feet
is
is
is,
is
is
really
making
a
statement
on
that
site
so
that
that's
my
comment
there
and
you
know
I
also
have
a
a
a
slight
issue
with
you
know,
as
we
as
we
go
around
the
facade
of
this
building,
the
various
facades
and
I
just
I
guess:
I
need
Clarity
on
where
the
ephes
is
all
is
where
the
black
and
the
charcoal
gray
is.
K
Yeah
I
I
guess
you
know:
I
just
have
a
concern
about
the
ethos
and
drive
it
and
and
stucco
hitting
the
grade,
and
you
know
that
we
really
should
consider
some
type
of
Wayne's
coat,
a
paneer
brick
that
that's
gonna
be
the
wrap
around
on
on
that
particular
facade.
So
that
that's
my
comment
there
and
and
as
far
as
the
the
wall,
that
I
guess
is
this:
this
the
seat
wall.
That's
that's
the
entire
length
of
that
building
am
I
right.
K
Q
We
can
evaluate
to
see
if
it
would
be
less
I
think
the
intent
is
to
provide
one
some
seating
area
for
the
the
bus
as
well
as
we
have
a
significant
grade
there.
So,
okay,
just
to
kind
of
provide
separation
for
the
bank
as
well.
Okay,.
K
A
I'll
just
add
a
couple
of
comments
and
murder.
If
you
go
to
the
site
plan,
it's
I
think
the
comment
came
in
that
we
may
be
over
parked
on
the
site.
A
I,
don't
think
a
mural
is
probably
the
right
application
here.
This
is
a
pretty
significant
wall
and
then
the
mural
will
be
behind
the
building.
It
just
seems
like
an
awkward
condition.
I
would
recommend
if
we're
overparked,
maybe
removing
those
three
parallel
parking
spots
and
maybe
even
the
one
in
the
corner
that
might
give
you
an
opportunity
to
add
taller,
Evergreen
planting
in
front
of
the
wall
to
make
that
go
away.
A
A
I
think
a
mural
is
going
to
have
so
much
prominence
there
and
it's
just
seems
like
an
awkward
location
kind
of
in
the
rear
of
the
bank,
so
I
would
highly
recommend
removing
those
spots
and
reevaluating
that
just
a
comment
on
the
seat
wall
out
on
the
street
I
think
that's
a
great
addition.
A
Every
time
I've
been
by
there
are
always
people
at
the
corner.
I
think
the
building's
going
to
be
a
great
addition
at
the
corner,
I'm,
not
so
sure
about
the
materiality,
and
maybe
the
applicant
could
comment
on
that.
Looks
like
we're
trying
to
pick
up
on
the
streetscape
paving,
but
to
me
that
that
should
be
more
of
like
a
white,
brick
or
a
white
material
that
matches
the
building
and
the
shopping
center
Beyond.
A
A
Just
seems
like
it
might
want
to
finish
off,
but
otherwise
you
know
I
I
Echo.
The
statements
in
the
staff
report
I
think
that's
really
well
done.
I
do
think
this
will
be
a
great
Improvement
to
this
corner.
So
I
appreciate
all
the
effort.
A
You
know
to
tie
this
building
in
not
only
to
Delaney
Valley
Road,
but
also
the
shopping
center
Beyond
as
well.
So
if
there
are
no
other
comments,
I'd
like
to
open
it
up
to
my
fellow
panel
members
to
see
if
anyone
would
like
to
make
a
motion
for
the
project.
B
Before
we
go,
you
just
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
and
in
your
motion,
wherever
who's
going
to
do
this,
we
deferred
a
couple
of
things
for
the
decision
to
design
review
panel
such
as
neural
decision,
whatever
it
has
to
be
done
or
not,
and
also
materials,
and
also
environmental
sustainability.
Portions
that
you
can
make
at
this
clarifying
your
motion.
The
decision
of
the
panel.
K
Sure,
I
I
guess
we're
going
to
make
make
a
motion
here
to
yeah,
I
I
would
I
would
say
not
not
approve
and
and
and
and
and
and
resubmit,
for,
DRP
review
and
and
in
conjunction
with
these,
the
staff
report
comments
and
the
the
and
our
comments.
K
I
guess:
I
guess
to
really
start
I
is
to
to
bring
to
reevaluate
the
the
18-foot
wall
and
and
incorporating
some
additional
landscape
to
try
to
soften
the
impact
and
and
also
other
type
of
vegetation
to
to
further
enhance
that
wall.
K
The
the
mirror
was
not
an
item
that
everyone
agreed
to
so
I
I,
don't
I,
I,
I,
don't
know.
If
we're
just
going
to
take
that
off
the
table,
you
know
other
others.
I
I
mean
Matt.
K
You
might
want
to
give
some
more
indication
on
that,
but
that's
my
my
perspective
also
the
it's
obvious
that
the
seat
wall
is
going
to
maintain
and
possibly
wrap
the
building
a
little
bit
to
further
enhance
I,
didn't
I'm,
not
totally
aware
of
that
intersection,
so
that
there's
quite
the
congregation
of
of
pedestrian
waiting
there.
Then
we
we
need
to
have
some
place
for
them
to
see
to
sit
also
that
it
was
mentioned
that
on
the
building
elevation,
the
wood,
the
dark
brown
wood
paneling-
should
become.
K
More
well
really
should
accommodate
the
the
white
panel
metal
panel.
That's
on
the
building
to
really
have
something:
that's
a
little
more
I,
guess
cohesive
of
a
design
on
on
that
building
and
and
to
have
the
the
parts
work
a
lot
better.
Also
the
I
don't
know
if
I
mentioned
it,
but
the
charcoal
color.
That's
the
ethos
on
the
buildings
to
incorporate
a
a
a
three
to
four
foot
Wayne's
coat.
That's
that's
a
veneer,
brick
and
and
not
thin
brick
on
a
building,
but.
K
J
J
J
A
So
Jennifer
I
think
to
Mr
Stevens
points
seem
to
address
the
the
items
that
are
to
flag
regarding
the
mural
and
the
building
materials.
I
think
the
one
that
hasn't
been
addressed
is
the
Environmental
sustainability.
I
know
the
applicant
made
the
comment
about
the
lead
standards
from
Bank
of
America.
Does
that
information
help
alleviate
some
of
those
concerns
from
planning
staff.
D
K
J
Mr
Stevens
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
asking
you
to
change
your
motion,
but
you
kind
of
went
on
with
a
rambling
list.
So
if
you
can
make
it
more
concise,
I
think
that
would
be
writing
up
the
minutes
of
this
meeting.
So
the
the
motion
is
to
revise
the
submission
with
the
staff
Port
report
and
and
then,
if
you
could
just
list
the
main
points
of
what
else
needs
to
be
addressed.
L
A
Can
help
you
I
was
I
was
trying
to
create
a
list
when
you
were
commenting
so
I'll
give
you
an
overview
and
then
you
could
try
to
take
it
okay
and
go
so
so.
Your
first
comment
was
related
to
the
site
retaining
wall
in
the
Landscaping.
So
just
reiterate
that
I
think
the
second
was
related
to
this.
The
seat
wall
at
the
corner
and
some
of
the
materiality
so
I
think
that's
pretty
self-under,
understandable,
I.
Think
the
biggest
item
are
the
building
materials.
I.
A
Think
you
made
a
few
comments
related
to
metal,
paneling,
the
ephes
and
the
stucco
and
and
the
concerns
about
the
bass,
I.
Think
they're.
Probably
some
more
clarity
needs
to
be
given
to
the
applicant
regarding
the
the
white
metal
panel
and
kind
of
wrapping
the
building
or
what
that
comment
may
be
I
think
that
was.
It
was
a
bit
open-ended
for
them
to
interpret
how
to
apply
that
item
and
then
I
think.
A
Finally,
you
just
may
want
to
comment
on
the
lead
standards
that
the
applicant
is
going
to
abide
by
by
Bank
of
America,
but
just
comment
that
that
should
be
included
in
the
approval.
K
Well,
on
the
facade,
it's
the
the
white
panels
would
actually
be
more
integrated
with
the
brown.
That's
there
I
I,
guess
that
would
really
substitute
that
it's
you
know,
it's
just
seems
like
it
all.
There's
no
cohesiveness
with
the
the
building
and
the
material.
So
just
take
another
look
at
that
and
see
how
it
can
be
integrated,
better.
A
K
Well,
it's
it's
it's
it's
mainly
as
as
Donald
Mann
said
it's
it's,
it's
the
the
main
elevation
of
and
and
the
the
leading
the
the
brown
panel
and
integrating
the
white
panel
and,
and
that
really
should
be
the
cohesiveness.
That's
that's
really
needed
on
that.
Exterior
elevation,
I,
don't
I,
don't
see
it
going
beyond
that
I
mean
the
the
balance
of
the
building
is
fine.
I
And
I
can
speak
a
little
to
those
materials.
I
know
we
can
go
back
to
the
bank.
I
know
they
do
have.
You
know
a
standard
prototyping
brand
that
we
do
kind
of
wanna
keep
in
line
with,
but
we
can
definitely
look
go
back
to
them
and
see
about
some
alternate
materials
like
brick
or
stone
that
we
could
use
in
lieu
of
that.
That
would
look
panel.
M
Can
I
add
some
clarity
to
that
too.
It
may
be
that
the
the
study
of
the
Delaney
Valley
elevation
might
involve
the
connection
between
the
seating
wall
and
the
building
in
terms
of
material
to
make
it
really
part
of
the
building,
instead
of
part
of
the
sidewalk,
whether
it
returns
to
the
building
at
one
point
or
not,
and
the
other
part
of
that
was
to
consider
as
the
building
slopes
down.
M
Although,
obviously
the
floor
is
level
that
might
consider
dropping
the
sill
of
some
of
those
windows
closest
to
the
corner,
to
sort
of
highlight
the
fact
that
it's
a
grade
through
there
too,
but
I
think
that
kind
of
study
is
what
I
was
referring
to
to
try
to
tie
the
the
building,
and
it
may
involve
positioning
that
Bank
of
America
sign
closer
to
the
corner
as
well.
I
mean
I,
think
there's
a
few
components
there
that
could
be
studied
and
make
it
just
more
cohesive
and
successful.
A
J
A
K
Okay,
to
start
with
the
the
18
foot
wall
to
re-evaluate
that
and
to
incorporate
more
vegetation
on
that
and
incorporate
additional
Landscaping
to
soften
that,
and
and
there's
not
a
a
mural,
is
not
what
is
is
the
desired
effect,
so
some
type
of
so
the
vegetation
on
that
wall
really
need
to
be
explored
on
on
that
now,
on
on
this
on
the
seat
wall,
we
will
definitely,
you
know,
keep
that
length
and
and
not
shorten
it,
but
maybe
make
the
L
turn
to
to
Really,
create
additional
seating.
K
Also,
the
again
on
on
that
foot
paneling,
you
know
to
to
Really,
integrate
the
white
paneling
and,
and
maybe
re-studied
how
that
made.
The
the
fenestration
will
work
with
that
that
white
panel
in
and
and
and
and
and
and
and
try
to
soften
up
that
elevation-
and
maybe
that's
that
also
entails
the
possibility
of
of
relocating
the
signage
for
for
more
clarity,
but
really
trying
to
present
something.
That's
gonna
really
give
you
the
proper
composition
that
that's
really
warranted
on
that
building.
K
Let's
try
to
integrate
a
brick
for
near
there
that
that
complements
that
color
and
and
so
that
that's
that's
another
piece
and
I
I
would
assume
that
that's
the
four
pieces
on
this
you
know-
maybe
maybe
even
as
as
you're,
exploring
the
design
on
that
mural
I
mean
on
that
18-foot
wall,
maybe
a
a
a
site
across
section
to
really
understand.
You
know
the
the
site
conditions
on
on
that.
K
A
J
J
A
Right,
so
if,
if
that,
that's
the,
what
takes
us
through
I'll
put
it
back
again
to
our
team.
If
there's
a
second
for
the
motion,
a
second
or
all
in
favor,.
M
F
A
I'm
not
hearing
anything.
The
motion
does
carry
at
this
time.
I'd
like
to
thank
everyone's
participation
at
the
meeting.
Do
I
have
a
motion
to
adjourn
tonight's
board
meeting.
A
Thank
you,
Mr
Stevens.
Thank
you.
Mr
Khan
motion
carries
I
appreciate
everybody's
time.
That
concludes
our
DRP
meeting.
Thank
you.