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A
Design
review
panel
very
quickly
just
want
to
confirm:
we've
got
myself
donald
khan
mishra,
mr
sharma
and
mr
yusuf
representing
the
designers
you
panel
with
us
tonight
a
few
housekeeping
things
before
we
get
started.
We
need
to
review
the
minutes
from
the
may
12
2021
meeting.
A
B
A
Hey,
thank
you
very
much.
We
have
two
projects
to
present
tonight,
there's
a
way
of
an
opening
statement
for
the
benefit
of
the
presenters
and
any
members
of
the
community
who
might
be
attending
the
meeting.
Baltimore
county
council
established
the
design
review
panel
with
subtitle
2
part
1,
section
32-4203.
A
The
objectives
for
the
drp
assessment
include
spatial
visual,
functional
relationships
to
the
topographic
characteristics,
natural
and
built
features
of
the
site,
as
well
as
surrounding
features
carrying
out
its
duties.
The
drp
utilizes
guidelines,
plans
and
architectural
principles
from
the
comprehensive
manual
development
policies
and
or
master
plans,
as
well
as
other
guidelines
and
regulations
adopted
into
law.
A
Certain
areas
of
the
county
were
designated
by
the
county
council
to
require
review
by
the
drp.
The
panel
will
provide
a
technical
review
of
the
proposed
project
issues
relative
to
zoning
setback,
relief,
environmental
and
stormwater
management.
Traffic
regulations
do
not
fall
under
the
purview
of
the
drp
and
are
regulated
through
the
appropriate
agencies.
A
A
If
you
are
speaking
on
behalf
of
a
community
group,
you
will
get
five
minutes
individual
speaking
for
themselves
or
a
lot
of
too
many.
As
I
said
earlier,
the
panel's
recommendations
are
advisory
on
the
hearing
officer
and
the
various
county
agencies.
A
B
Thank
you.
Oh
yes,
yes,
we're
out
we're
we're.
We
were
muted
now
we're
not
good
evening
everybody.
This
is
stu
darling
with
colbert
max
rosenfeld,
I'm
sitting
here
with
carla
ryan,
and
we
have
been
the
main
two
people
working
on
this
project,
along
with
our
landscape,
architect,
mason
campbell
in
the
office
as
well.
We
are
back
from
the
may
12th
drp
meeting.
B
That
was
our
first
go-round
with
this
project
and
we've
received
comments
at
that
time
and
we
responded
to
them
and
took
them
very,
very
much
to
heart
and
came,
and
we
think
we've
come
back
with
a
with
a
version
of
this
site
that
we
think
will
be
acceptable
to
you
and
meet
with
your
approval.
B
So,
let's
get
started,
I
guess
with
the
with
the
slides
martha
and
we
can
get
into
this
this
project.
So
the
first
page
is
a
repeat
from
the
first
version:
it's
just
a
general
front
view
of
the
typical
rv's
store
in
their
color
scheme.
B
The
second
page
we
did,
we
did
add
a
couple
of
comments
to
this
page.
One
with
respect
to
the
previous
design
review
panel
meeting
and
also
the
bottom
paragraph,
has
some
additional
information
with
respect
to
building
code,
classifications
and
type
of
structure
that
we're
going
to
be
building
here
with
some
ethics
finishes
and
aluminum
storefront
windows,
doors
exterior
finishes
would
be
a
combination
of
brick
and
mistlet
that
we'll
see
later
in
the
slides
for
the
architectural
part
of
the
project.
B
E
B
Is
a
slide
that
kind
of
outlines
very
quickly
bullet
point
fashion,
the
major
changes
that
we
made
to
the
plan
and
we'll
see
these
as
we
start
getting
into
the
site
plans
and
rendered
landscape
plans,
we
took
to
heart
the
parking
along
the
east
property
line
and
when
we
look
at
the
plans,
the
east
property
line
is
going
to
be
towards
the
top
of
the
page
north
is
going
to
be
towards
the
left.
B
West
will
be
towards
the
bottom
and
south
will
be
joppa
road.
So
the
angle
parking
is
along
the
eastern
property
line
and
we
did
adjust
the
angle
on
that
parking
and
which
adjusted
the
one-way
traffic
pattern
to
serve
those
parking
spaces.
We'll
see
that
in
the
upcoming
slides,
we
made
a
major
change
to
the
building
location.
We
pushed
it
back
it's
fairly
well,
in
line
with
the
existing
bank
building
on
1608
east
java.
B
You
will
see
that
that
allowed
us
to
provide
a
patio
area
in
front
of
the
building
between
the
building
and
the
driveway
for
the
parking
spaces
along
east
chapa.
That
area
was
revised
also
to
eliminate
a
space
to
create
larger
islands
on
either
side
of
that
parking
bay.
B
We've
again
increased
the
landscape
areas
between
our
property
in
1608,
the
drive-through
lane,
and
also
between
the
eastern
side
parking
spaces
and
the
drive-through
entrance
area,
where
we
also
provided
a
pedestrian
walkway
from
the
spaces
in
the
rear
of
the
lot
to
allow
for
more
safe
pedestrian
access
from
those
rear
parking
spaces
to
an
entrance
door
on
the
east
side
of
the
building.
Again,
those
parking
spaces
in
the
back
were
also
reconfigured
to
provide
the
perpendicular
parking
and
a
two-way
drywall,
which
simplifies
the
the
circulation
pattern
for
the
whole
site.
B
It's
it's
kind
of
an
unusual
site
where,
where
the
two
sites
are
working
together,
side
by
side
with
multiple
entrances
off
of
east
chapel
road
that
they
they
share,
and
then
the
last
item
I'll
point
out
on
this
page
is
has
to
do
with
the
monument
sign.
B
We
relocated
that
from
its
location,
which
was
towards
the
eastern
property
line,
which
would
have
impacted
an
existing
tree
that
we
felt
like
we
should
save
based
on
comments
from
the
community
and
moved
it
to
the
other
side
of
that
right
in
an
entrance
off
of
east
chapa
road,
and
we
feel
it's
a
it's
actually
a
better
location
for
visibility
for
for
traffic
alone,
east
japan,
moving
in
a
easterly
to
westerly
traffic
pattern,
especially
so
that's
that's
just
kind
of
a
quick
run
through
on
some
of
the
major
changes
that
we
made
on
the
plan.
B
So
this
is
one
from
before
this
one
is,
is
important,
just
to
spend
a
moment
on
just
to
just
to
reiterate
that
our
project,
even
though
the
property
is
somewhat
irregularly,
shaped
the
rear
part
or
the
farthest
part
of
the
property
away
from
east
joppa.
B
That
long
rectangle,
where
the
opening
is,
is
essentially
unchanged
with
this
project
and
we're
really
focused
on
considering
the
property
area,
just
the
front
part
that
frontal
and
east
japa
to
that
back
property
line.
That
kind
of
where
the
opening
is
to
the
rear
property
and
that's
about
0.77
acres
of
total
land
area
right
that
we're
trying
to
you
know
that
is
affected
by
by
the
by
the
redevelopment
you
can
move
to
the
next
one
martha.
Thank
you.
B
This
is
just
some
slides
from
the
original
presentation
of
different
properties
along
east
japa.
What's
around
us,
there
is
development
all
around
us
gas
station
across
the
street.
The
old
pizza
hut
is
the
building
the
site
that
we're
gonna
redevelop
into
the
arby's,
and
there
is
some
some
views
of
the
curb
cuts
that
are
there
today
on
each
java
from
the
site
next
slide.
B
Yeah
this
one
shows
the
bank
next
to
us.
Here's
the
suntrust
signage.
He
shows
the
sidewalk
along
east
java
with
the
grass
strip
between
the
pavement
and
the
sidewall.
That's
going
to
continue
across
our
our
property
frontage
as
well.
We
are
going
to
do
some
improvements
to
the
entrances
to
provide
a
colored
concrete,
stamping
for
the
crosswalk
across
the
actual
aprons
provide
detectable
warning
surfaces
for
the
curved
aprons
for
a
crawl.
B
You
know
so
the
people
to
understand
what
they're
approaching
an
entrance
they
will
know
by
those
detectable
warning
strips
the
gas
station
across
the
street
is
shown
on
this
slide
as
well,
and
you
can
see
that
joppa
road
has
two
lanes
in
each
direction
with
the
center
lane,
that's
shared
by
both
directions
of
traffic
for
turning
movements.
B
This
is
a
site
plan
of
the
existing
conditions.
Again,
you
can
see
the
perpendicular
parking
and
handicapped
spaces
along
the
easterly
property
line.
You
see
the
right
and
only
entrance,
that's
closest
to
the
easterly
property
line.
There's
parking
along
east
joppo
before
you
get
to
a
shared
two
way
or
one
way
in
one
way
out
entrance
in
the
middle
of
the
two
properties.
B
You
see
the
old
pizza
hut.
Building
the
configuration
in
the
rear
of
the
site
was
somewhat
different
than
what
we're
doing
and
the
dumpster
location
and
the
angled
parking
that
once
served.
The
pizza
hut
is
being
replaced
by
the
drive-through
lane,
there's
an
easement
that
shares
they
share
for
ingress
egress
down
the
center
of
the
two
sites
that
allows
boat
sites
to
get
to
that
middle
entrance
location
to
get
in
and
out
of
the
site.
B
B
B
He
would
be
happy
with-
and
I
think
he's
pretty
happy
with
where
we've
come
to
with
the
landscape
planning
plan
next
slide
yeah.
This
is
just
a
blow
up
of
that.
That
really
shows
the
main
site
redevelopment
area.
You
can
see
the
location
of
the
old
building
versus
where
the
new
one
is.
The
drive-through
lane,
with
the
stacking
requirements
met
a
lot
of
the
landscaping
is,
is,
is
the
main
focus
of
this
of
this
plan
and
I
think
we'll
be
once
once
it
grows
into
place.
B
We've
got
the
dumpster
relocated
and
we
also
tweaked
the
angle
in
the
dumpster
a
little
bit.
There
was
some
concern
about
access
to
the
dumpster,
so
we
adjusted
the
angle
of
the
dumpster
pad
itself
and
the
enclosure
and
and
we
did
modify
and
massage
that
curb
line
to
try
to
give
the
truck
access
to
that
dumpster
more
more
readily.
B
This
shows
that,
based
on
the
parking
requirement
of
16
per
thousand
square
feet,
since
this
is
a
restaurant,
we
were
required
37
spaces
where
to
achieve
that
right
on
the
number,
with
the
new
with
the
latest
layout
and
two
handicap
spaces
as
well.
B
D
B
This
is
a
more
stripped
down
version
of
the
site
plan
to
kind
of
help
to
understand
the
traffic
circulation
for
this
property.
It's
a
it's
a
little
bit
different
than
the
original
existing
condition,
because
the
pizza
hut
that
was
on
this
lot
was
not
a
drive-through
type
facility.
This
is
so
we're
gonna,
not
change
any
of
the
existing
ingress
egress
points
along
the
frontage
of
the
property
or
the
neighboring
bank
site
that
they
that
we
share
entrances
with
again.
B
We
have
the
right
in
at
the
easterly
side
of
the
site
that
we're
going
to
keep,
and
that
brings
you
people
in
as
a
one-way
pattern
and
the
angled
spaces
kind
of
help
maintain
that
one-way
pattern
feel
as
vehicles
to
either
enter
the
drive-through
lane
or
bypass
that
and
continue
straight
to
the
north.
B
They
have
the
option
of
either
going
straight
into
that
rear
area.
Where
there's
a
large
parking
area
where
they
can
go
and
park
if
they
need
to
or
they
could
turn
around
and
come
back
out
and
then
they
would
make
a
movement
towards
the
west
into
that
double
bay
of
parking.
That
has
a
two-way
traffic
pattern
for
vehicles
going
to
those
parking
spaces,
and
then
you
can
continue
to
go
across.
B
B
They
could
actually
turn
across
the
bank
and
go
easterly
back
towards
the
center
of
the
site
and
get
across
the
face
of
our
our
building.
If
they
decided
they
missed
the
drive-through
lane
and
wanted
to
get
to
it.
They
could
come
around
the
long
way
and
get
there
as
well
on
site
and
not
have
to
go
back
on
the
east
job
up.
B
B
B
That
was
part
of
the
discussions
that
we
had
back
and
forth
with
the
community
rep,
and
we
tried
to
accommodate
him
with
that
and
again,
our
planning
units
are
well
above
our
requirement,
so
I
feel
comfortable
that
once
we
get
into
the
detailed
drawings
in
phase
two
with
jim
herman,
this
is
a
good
place
to
start
with
our
landscape
plan,
and
I
think
we'll
be
pretty
close
to
this
as
a
final
version.
When
it's
all
said
and
done.
B
This
slide
also
shows
the
red
color
stamp,
brick
concrete
or
concrete
in
a
brick
type
pattern
that
you
intend
to
install
at
the
two
entrances,
the
central
one,
which
is
the
in
and
out,
and
also
the
easterly
one,
which
is
the
right
into
the
arby's
portion
of
the
overall
site
that
will
again
highlight
those
crosswalks
for
pedestrians
and
also
vehicles,
as
they
approach
that
next
slide.
Please.
B
And
that's
just
a
blow
up
of
the
of
the
previous
slide.
Again,
you
can
see
the
the
older.
This
is
the
old
version
with
the
smaller
trees
along
the
there
you
go
there.
It
is
thank
you
martha
that
one
is:
we've
got
a
transformer
behind
the
building.
We've
got
the
menu
board
and
all
of
those
things
there
that
we
want
to
try
and
provide
some
plantings
around.
There's
a
planting
strip
between
the
driving
lane
and
the
double
row
parking
in
the
back
and
you
can
see
in
the
sandy
color
is
the
walkway.
B
B
B
The
community
rep
really
wanted
us
to
add
some
additional
shrubberies
along
that
way
to
provide
some
screenage
from
any
headlights
in
the
east
japa
from
cars
parking
along
that
front
parking
row,
which
we
did
that
we
also
show
the
walkway
the
concrete
walkway
access
from
pedestrians,
walking
along
east
chapel
to
walk
right
to
the
front
door,
using
the
handicapped,
access
accessible
route
from
east
joplin
to
the
front
door
to
get
to
the
patio
area,
which
will
have
a
some
outside
tables
and
we'll
have
the
bike
rack
located
up
there
as
well
near
the
building
the
trash
receptacles.
B
B
Improvement
along
the
front
of
the
building
with
that
patio
area,
the
the
previous
iteration
of
this
plan
had
very
little
area
outside
of
that
that
door
and
by
pushing
the
building
back
and
creating
that
patio
area.
I
think
we've
got
a
much
safer
pedestrian
circulation
area
there
for
both
the
handicaps,
parking
spaces
and
pedestrians
along
the
road
that
want
to
come
to
the
arby's
next
slide.
Please.
B
Kind
of
looking
from
east
joppa
looking
into
the
site
on
the
easterly
side
of
the
site,
you
can
see
the
angled
parking
on
the
side.
The
easterly
property
line
side
with
the
18-foot
drive
lane,
there's
a
pedestrian
walkway
from
the
rear,
double
bay
of
parking.
Then
you
have
to
drive
through
lane.
B
Then
you
have
the
concrete
wall
as
you
enter
the
building
there
going
from
east
to
west
across
the
slide
from
right
to
left
and
there's
some
there'll,
be
that
landscape
strip
between
our
property
and
the
property
to
the
east,
which
is
1614
in
east
japan.
B
B
If
I
guess,
if
robert
wanted
to
chime
in
with
anything
here,
he
could,
I
believe,
he's
the
one.
Now
I
see
him
on
the
list
there.
Yes,.
G
I'm
here
hi
robert,
these
rendered
elevations
haven't
changed
from
the
original
meeting.
We
can
go
to
the
next
slide
where
they
get
into
a
little
more
blown-up.
G
E
G
We
go
from
the
front
right
to
the
back:
that's
our
our
rear,
walk-in
cooler,
again
still
the
accents
of
the
brick
waynes
coating
going
around.
If
we
could
go
to
the
next
slide.
G
And
these
are
the
both
side
elevations.
Both
the
drive-through
saw
the
drive-through
elevation,
which
is
on
the
lower
portion
of
the
sheet
and
the
non-drive
through,
which
is
on
the
upper
portion
of
the
sheet
accented
by
the
brick
wings
coating
throughout
the
building
and
again
the
brick
accent
at
the
entrance,
with
the
rb
sign
over
it
and
on
the
drive
through
side
again
the
bricks
weight
wainscoting
throughout
the
building
and
the
brick
accent
at
the
drive-through
elevation
itself.
G
Just
a
blow
up
of
the
actual
finishes
that
are
listed
on
the
drawings,
the
actual
specs
and
colors
for
the
record.
G
The
next
slide,
please
again
the
the
coded
elements
of
the
original
elevation,
so
that
all
of
it
is
in
the
record
for
what
the
finishes
are
and
the
where
the
brick
where
the
ethers
where
they
are
on
the
building
and
the
aluminum
accents
as
far
as
the
banding,
the
red
banding
that
goes
around
the
building
next
slide,
please
all
the
exterior
accent
lighting,
actually
some
of
the
interior
shown
on
here,
but
for
the
reference
of
this,
this
was
for
the
wall
sconces
and
the
emergency
exit
lights
that
are
wrapped
around
the
building
where
their
location
and
what
the
actual
fixture
is
next
slide.
G
G
This
was
just
a
calculation
of
the
existing
gross
building
area
for
the
original
pizza
hut,
which
you
could
see
the
outline
of
the
original
pizza
hut
and
the
footprint
of
the
new
building.
So,
yes,
we
are
drastically
reducing
the
size
of
the
building,
but
obviously
we're
adding
the
drive-through
component
to
the
building.
Hence
the
the
coverage
that
we
have
to
add
for
the
drive-through,
the
drive-through
elements,
but
these
are
the
actual
bulk
differences.
G
G
This
was
a
graphic
we
developed
from
the
comment
that,
as
far
as
the
shielding
and
of
the
rooftop
units,
it's
a
little
hard
to
see
without
blowing
it
up
more.
But
you
have
to
be
a
considerable
length
away
and
I
will
actually
bring
it
up
on
my
screen.
So
I
can
read
it
a
considerable
length
away
to
be
able
to
see
the
units
the
first,
the
top
section
is
to
see
to
get
the
perspective.
G
If
your
eyes
are
five
feet
above
the
ground,
you'd
have
to
be
210
215
feet
away
to
see
the
units
from
the
front
and
from
the
side
of
the
building
again
with
your
eyes
at
five
feet,
you'd
have
to
be
50
feet
away
or
if
your
eyes
were
at
six
feet,
you'd
have
to
be
at
46
feet
away
to
see
the
top
of
the
rooftop
units.
G
If
you
go
to
the
next
site,
the
next
page,
there
you
go,
these
are
the
details
of
the
standard
signage.
This
is
the
rb
sign
that
you
see
on
the
elevations,
and
these
are
the
mounting
details
and
the
actual
colors
from
the
from
the
manufacturers.
A
Excuse
me,
this
is
john
davina,
since
most
of
the
comments
of
the
prior
that
came
from
the
prior
meeting
of
cover
been
covered
and
from
what
I
could
tell
it
doesn't
appear,
the
rest
of
the
presentation
has
changed
from
the
original.
When
I
would
suggest
we
just
go
ahead,
and
you
know
conclude
your
presentation
unless
there's
something
new
that
we
haven't
seen
before.
G
B
Move:
hey
yeah.
This
is
stu
again
yeah.
I
just
wanted
to
touch
on
a
couple,
quick
things
that
I
know
were
raised
as
comments
in
the
first
meeting
and,
and
they
are
the
following-
one
was
stormwater
management
again,
I
think
robert.
As
he
stated,
the
footprint
is
getting
much
smaller
and
we're
at
able
to
add
a
considerable
amount
of
pervious
areas
that
we're
going
to
landscape,
which
should
help
reduce
the
rcn
for
the
overall
site
and
and
hopefully
have
a
positive
impact
on
the
existing
stormwater
management
facilities
that
are
in
place.
B
There
are
two
there
now
one
is
located
in
straddles.
The
central
area
of
the
site
straddles
both
properties.
It's
a
shared
stormwater
management,
underground
facility,
there's
another
one
in
the
rear
area
that
we're
not
really
changing
right
now.
So
there's
not
really
much
to
say
about
that
one,
but
again
we're
going
to
be
reusing.
The
on-site
existing
inlets,
adding
inlets,
where
we
need
to
tying
them
into
the
existing
ones
and
have
those
drain
to
the
underground
stormwater
facility
and
again,
we
believe,
with
the
reduced
impervious
areas.
B
Here
we
will
be
able
to
have
this.
These
existing
facilities
function
for
stormwater
management.
Secondly,
I
wanted
to
just
touch
real
quickly
on
the
lighting
we
did
submit
later
after
the
fact
again,
my
apologies,
a
lighting
photometric,
that
I
believe
that
those
have-
and
it
indicates
the
there
we
go
there.
It
is.
It
indicates
various
fixtures
of
led
types,
both
building
mounted
and
pole
mounted
around
the
site.
B
We
have
fixture
cam
photometric
book
handle
numbers
all
across
the
site,
and
this
is
something
that
will
be
reviewed
by
jim
herman
as
part
of
the
overall
lighting
and
landscaping
plan,
and
then
the
last
thing
I
wanted
to
mention.
I
know
there
was
a
comment
about
curves
along
the
easterly
property
line.
B
We
are
not
changing
the
location
of
the
existing
curve
on
our
property.
It's
going
to
remain
in
the
same
horizontal
location.
We
are
cutting
off
a
little
bit
as
you
approach
east
java,
because
we
don't
need
it
anymore
and
there
is
a
10
foot
right
away
that
straddles
five
feet
on
our
property:
five
feet
on
the
property
of
16
14,
to
allow
1614
to
basically
come
to
our
property
line
with
their
driveway
in
and
out
off
of
east
chapa.
B
Behind
at
about
one
two,
three,
four:
five
about
the
sixth
space
back,
where
there's
a
curve
with
a
light
pole,
an
old
light
pole
that
sits
right
there,
that
joins
from
our
property
to
the
common
property
line,
and
then
there
that
curve
runs
in
a
north
direction
towards
the
rear
of
the
property
of
1614.
The
concrete,
the
island
that
we're
planting
our
trees
in
and
doing
our
landscaping
in
on
our
property
to
the
property
line,
so
that
there's
a
curb.
B
A
A
Yeah
mark
martin,
do
you
want
to
read
the
staff
report.
H
Sure,
thank
you
and
john.
We
don't
have
any
community
speakers
or
any
other
speakers
that's
registered.
I
just
would
like
to
check
like
that
class
brett
and
emre
and
jen.
Do
we
have
any
requests
through
chat.
G
H
H
Consider
a
better
layout
for
the
proposed
handicapped
parking.
The
current
proposed
location
at
the
entrance
of
the
site,
the
entrance
to
the
building
and
the
drive-through
exit
poses
unsafe
condition.
Number
two
clearly
label
on
the
plan.
The
physical
separation
between
the
subject,
property
and
the
property
adjacent
to
the
east
in
terms
of
architectural
design,
form
and
image
staff
recommends
approval
of
the
architectural
design
form
image
in
terms
of
open
space
and
landscape
design.
H
Staff
recommends
approval
and
we
just
have
one
condition:
provide
specific
plant
material
to
be
used
for
the
proposed
landscaping
in
regards
to
sweet,
sparking
and
calculation
staff
recommends
approval
of
the
pedestrian
circulation
subject
to
the
following
condition:
consider
a
battery
layout
for
the
indicate
parking.
The
current
proposed
location
at
the
entrance
to
decide
the
entrance
to
the
building
and
the
drive
through
exit
voted,
unsafe
condition
in
terms
of
vehicle
circulation
staff,
recommends
approval
of
sleep
parking
in
circulation,
subject
to
default,
provide
more
detailed
circulation
diagrams.
H
H
In
terms
of
signage
and
lighting,
stopping
men's
approval
of
the
proposed
signage
staff
is
staff
was
unable
to
recommend
approval
of
the
lighting
drives
in
the
following.
At
the
time
of
the
submission
electric
plans,
following
all
exterior
locations
of
the
light
picture
wasn't
submitted
so
condition
is
that
a
light
lighting
plant,
knowing
all
exterior
locations
of
the
bi-fixture
must
be
provided
to
me
proper,
and
that
concludes
our
stuff.
A
Hey
thank
you
martha
with
that.
I
am
going
to
ask
mr
you
safaro
to
have
the
first
set
of
comments
from
the
panel.
I
Thank
you
very
much
chairman
demetta
and
good
evening.
My
name
is
joseph
youssefero
and
I
by
trade,
am
a
civil
site
engineer.
So
I
do
have
a
few
comments
just
to
know
so
number
one.
I
I
I
did
review
the
initial
submission
from
may
the
the
may
drp
meeting
compared
to
where
we
are
today,
and
I
would
like
to
say
it
has
come
a
long
way
and
I'm
very
pleased
with
how
it
turned
out
so
the
entire
design
team.
Could
someone
mute
their
phone
there's
a
lot
of
feedback.
I
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very,
very
pleased
with
how
it
turned
out.
I
think,
from
an
overall
customer
experience
standpoint.
This
layout
functions
much
better.
You
have
the
isolated
drive
through.
You
have
parking
that
is
kind
of
away
from
the
building
and
you
have
nice
landscaping
to
to
soften
the
experience.
I
So
overall
I
I'd
like
to
compliment
the
the
team.
My
only
comment
relates
to
the
staff
report
that
was
just
looked
at
and
as
it
relates
to
the
handicapped
parking
and
I
I
do
and
design
a
lot
of
quick,
serve.
Restaurants
and
and
customers
over
the
years
learn
the
most
efficient
way
in
and
out
of
the
site.
I
Recognizing
joppa
road
is
a
fairly
busy
road,
two
lanes
in
each
direction.
With
a
center
lean.
I
would
think
that
most
customers
would
come
in
from
you
know,
I'm
gonna
say
top.
So
if
north
is
left,
you
know
call
it
call
it
westbound
in
the
right
in
right.
I
The
topmost
entrance
and
those
customers
would
either
get
in
the
drive-through
lane
or
if
they
chose
dine-in
they'd
park
in
the
angled
spaces
and
walk
into
the
building,
when
the
customers
would
leave,
they
would
either
you
know,
get
their
food
in
the
drive-through
and
kind
of
bear
right
to
go
either
out
be
left
or
right
or
if
they
were
dying
in
from
the
angled
spaces.
They
would,
I
think,
circulate
the
building
towards
the
back
come
around
and
then
exit.
I
So
I
think
that
the
handicapped
spaces
along
the
front
are
the
optimal
spaces,
because
there's
the
there's
going
to
be
the
least
amount
of
traffic
at
that
front,
drive
aisle,
and
I
think
that
from
a
safety
perspective,
that
is
the
the
best
location,
as
the
developer
and
engineer
have
shown
so
they're
my
comments.
But
overall
I
think
it
looked
really
nice
and
and
much
better
from
the
initial
submission.
Thank
you.
J
And
before
we
move
on,
I
I'd
like
joe
to
clarify
what
he
just
said.
So
are
you
saying
joe
if
a
car
is
coming
from
the
west
and
they
have
to
use
the
shared
drive
aisle
the
shared
entrance
to
get
into
the
site
because
they
cannot
do
it
from
the
eastern
entrance?
That
entrance
is
a
right
in
only
they
can't
turn
left
in
there.
I
Yes,
I
I
thank
you
jennifer
for
clarifying,
so
so
that
is
perhaps
I
got
my
directions
mixed
up,
but
north,
I
believe,
is
to
the
left
of
the
page
east
is
to
the
top
west
is
to
the
bottom.
So
if
a
customer
was
driving
westbound
on
japan
road
from
the
top
of
the
piece
to
the
bottom
of
the
page,
they
would
go
in
the
right
in
if
a
if
a
customer
was
driving
from
the
bottom
of
the
cage
from
the
west
to
the
east.
I
My
comment
about
customers
learn
the
easiest
way
to
get
in
was
more
so
I
would
think
customers
would
would
figure
out
that
the
right
in
it
could
be
the
easiest
way
to
get
into
the
site
as
you're
driving
from
the
top
of
the
of
the
page
to
the
bottom,
and
they
make
the
write
in.
I
I
also
looked
at
alternative
handicap
spaces
and
I
think
the
only
other
option
would
be
somewhere
misblock
on
the
angled
spaces,
perhaps
up
from
the
striped
area,
and
I
think
that
there's
going
to
be
much
more
traffic,
whether
it's
drive
through
or
one
way
in
that
area
than
in
the
front.
A
Thank
you
joe
mr
khan,.
K
Thank
you.
I
agree
with
most
of
what
joe
just
said
and
and
what
the
applicant
has
provided.
I
think
two
questions
coming
out
of
the
drive-in
I'm
going
to
have
to
turn
to
the
right
to
exit
the
site
and
confront
incoming
traffic,
which
may
be
going
to
the
bank
or
maybe
going
to
the
restaurant.
K
It
appears
that
the
proposed
exit
is
to
go
all
the
way
around
the
bank
building
to
go
through
an
exit,
there's
no
indication
that
they
were
going
to
go
through
that
common
corridor
area
between
the
two
buildings
and
I'd
like
that
explained
because
again,
it
seems
like
there's
both
at
the
back
of
the
building
and
at
the
front
of
the
building.
There's
a
terrific.
K
It
should
be
clear
to
the
driver,
where
they're
to
exit
and
exit
safely,
particularly
coming
from
the
back
of
the
building.
B
Yeah
these
this
is
stu
with
covert
maps
the
bank
building,
as
you
can
see
on
this
slide,
it
has
an
angled
parking
space
set
up
that
works
well
with
the
one-way
traffic
pattern
coming
straight
down
the
center.
We
didn't
want
to
change
their
their
existing
historical
parking
layout
to
create
a
two-way
traffic
pattern.
There
we
do
have
enough
actual
physical
space.
We
held
a
22
foot
wide
drywall
from
our
curve
at
the
drive-through
lane
to
the
edge
of
those
parking
spaces.
B
So
we
left
enough
room,
but
for
vehicles
that
would
be
going,
I
guess
south
towards
east
japa
from
the
back
of
the
building.
They
would
not
be
able
to
use
any
of
those
angled
parking
spaces.
The
way
they
are
now
they'd
have
to
be
changed
to
a
perpendicular,
yeah
perpendicular
type
of
the
layout,
and
we
and
they
we
have
not
approached
the
bank
about
making
any
changes
to
their
historical
layout
for
parking.
So
that's
what
vehicles!
I
think
that
were
using
the
pizza
hut
space.
B
F
F
We
do
have
a
do
not
enter
sign.
I
don't
know
if
you
can
see
it,
it's
it's
on
the
corner
of
our
drive-through
area,
so
we
have
a
do
not
enter
that
would
be
facing
out.
So
any
cards
trying
to
make
that
left
turn
into
that.
One
way
would
see
that
do
not
enter.
K
K
G
The
only
thing
if
I
may,
I
may
just
add
that
I'm
not
trying
to
dispute
anything
but
the
the
movement
to
that
scared
center
axis
they're
they're,
similar
to
what's
existing
right
now.
There's
a
previous
learned
experience
there.
So
hopefully
this
won't
be
that
much
of
a
learning
curve
compared
to
what
is
there
currently.
F
And
then
I
just
wanted
to
add
one
thing:
this
is
kyla
ryan
donald.
You
mentioned
the
potential
conflict
with
the
traffic
exiting
the
drive-through
lane.
So
I
guess
one
benefit
here
is
that
they
are
not
merging
with
traffic
coming
from
behind
them.
So
the
only
traffic
you
know,
potential
traffic
conflict
is
from
cars
entering
the
site,
which
would
be
fully
in
front
of
the
vehicle,
and
then
the
other
improvement
here
is
that
we
did
push
the
building
back
by
about
16
to
18
feet.
K
I
mean,
as
long
as
people
aren't
coming
down,
that
center
aisle
it's
clearer
now,
the
way
it
is
because
all
the
cars
are
you
know
coming
in
at
an
angle,
it's
clear
when
you,
when
you
change
it,
the
way
you
are
but
anyway,
those
are.
A
Today,
thank
you,
miss
rob
your
comments.
Please.
C
Sure
so,
thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
I
I
do
think
as
the
other
other
panel
members.
I've
said
it's
improved
a
lot
compared
to
the
last
rendition.
I
do
have
a
few
concerns
traffic
circulation.
Mr
khan
has
already
mentioned.
It
just
seems
like
it's
not
very
clear
and
I'm
concerned
about
potential
accidents
that
might
take
place
and
so
on,
so
that
that
is
a
concern
and
another
thing
is
just
the
customer
experience.
C
If
you
look
at
the
site
plan,
there's
a
lot
more
landscaping
and
it
seems
quite
nice,
but
actually
the
the
part
of
the
building
where
it's
surrounded
by
landscaping.
It's
mostly
back
at
the
house
and
kitchen
and
no
windows
and
the
customers
really
cannot
look
out
that
way,
and
so
it
seems
like
a
missed
opportunity.
C
In
that
sense,
also
the
patio
area,
I
wonder
if
it
could
be
either
moved
to
the
back
somehow
or
if
the
drive-through
even
has
to
be,
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
possible,
but
if
there's
a
drive-through
have
to
be
in
the
back
of
the
site.
C
So
what
I'm
wondering
is
if
it
could
almost
just
be
flipped
that
would
take
care
of
the
safety
issue
for
the
handicapped,
parking
or
the
handicapped
parking.
Maybe
could
even
go
to
the
back
so
that
you
don't
have
to
cross
traffic
at
all.
You
could
just
go
through
the
island
and
then
into
the
entrance,
and
then
you
could
have
a
patio
where
you
look
out
to
the
vegetation
and
the
landscaping
on
the
site
and
then
the
the
site
beyond
as
well,
has
a
lot
of
landscaping
and
it
could
be
quite
nice.
C
Actually,
I
think,
as
a
customer.
So
those
are
just
some
comments
that
I
had
biggest
thing
being.
The
vehicular
safety
and
customer
experience.
A
Thank
you,
mr
sharma.
J
D
D
One
thing
I
would
like
to
mention
the
last
time:
maybe
my
comment
was
misunderstood:
the
motors
aggressing
from
the
joint
use,
the
ingress
and
egress
the
traffic
side,
traffic
or
the
transportation
in
the
baltimore
county.
They
need
to
look
into
this
that,
if
making
a
left
turn
while
stretching
is
safe,
so
that
was
my
comment.
A
In
terms
of
my
comments,
I
think
I
am
in
agreement
with
mr
yusafaro.
A
A
I
actually
remember
going
to
the
pizza
hut
here
when
my
children
were
much
younger
and
the
confusion
between
the
pizza
hut
lot
and
the
adjacent
bank
clearly
was
an
acquired
knowledge
because
once
you've
experienced
it
once
you
realize
it
was
a
little
convoluted,
but
I
do
think
the
location
the
developer
ended
up
with
with
the
handicapped
parking
is,
is
a
good
and
probably
the
best
other
locations
are
going
to
be
crossing,
probably
similar
amounts
of
traffic
just
in
a
different
location
on
the
site.
A
With
that,
unless
there's
any
other
comments
from
the
panel
joe
since
you're
the
civil
engineer-
and
you
had
the
most
comments,
I'm
going
to
ask
you
first,
if
you'd
be
willing
to
make
a
motion
on
this
project.
I
Sure
I
I
would
be
happy
to
make
a
motion
on
the
project.
Let
me
just
get
my
staff
report
in
order
here,
so
I
would
you
know,
hearing
this
panel's
comments
about
you
know.
Can
we
can
we,
mr
ross
comments.
I
I
I
I
I
do
agree
with
some
of
the
panel
members
that
the
exit
customers
pick
up
their
food
at
the
drive-through
is
a
little
wide
open,
and
I
would
suggest
that
the
islands
next
to
the
pickup
window
be
extended
sun
to
channelize
that
a
little
bit
more,
perhaps
to
the
end
of
the
building,
and
then
the
customers
could
leave
so.
E
I
Think
with
that,
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
project
conditioned
upon
the
staff
report,
that
is
dated
july
14
2021,
and
the
comments
within
with
the
exception
of
the
handicapped
spaces
being
shifted
to
somewhere
else
on
site
and
keeping
the
handy
spaces
as
they
are
shown
on
the
developer
site
plan,
and
then
number
two
would
be
to
extend
the
landscape
island
further
down
towards
joppa
road.
I
You
know,
call
it
another.
You
know
10
feet
beyond
the
window.
E
I
I
E
A
Thank
you,
joseph
anyone.
A
Aye
any
nays.
Okay,
with
that
the
motion
carries
mr
bosch.
Mr
grimaldi
start
mr
darley.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation.
Good
luck
with
this
project.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
Good
night,
chairman
demena,
yes,
sir,
this
is
joseph
youssefer
again
so
so
for
project
number
two.
I
was
part
of
the
project
and
I
would
like
to
refuse.
H
A
L
Thank
you
very
much
everyone
good
evening.
My
name
is
gustavo
arango,
I'm
the
project
director
in
charge
of
the
towson
road
project,
and
I
will
give
the
presentation
tonight,
marta.
I
assume
you
are
on
the
on
the
clicker.
If
you
can
move
to
the
next
page,
please
so
this
page
is
your
typical
detail.
Page
is
basically
describing
the
scope
of
the
work
in
which
there
are
technically
two
signs.
L
One
of
the
signs
is
two
is:
is
a
combined
of
two
signs?
One
is
a
multi-tenant
cabinet
sign
and
the
other
one
is
a
double-sided
parking,
p
circle
sign
and
which
we're
going
to
get
the
details
further
down
and
the
the
second
one
is
a
the
name.
The
york,
which
is
the
name
of
the
apartment
building
and
this
one
is
facing
south.
L
So
why
don't
we
scroll
some
pages
down?
Let's
go
to
page
six
of
13,
please
just
to
locate
the
project
or
the
the
building
within
the
project.
This
is
the
building
that
is
located
at
the
corner
of
towson
town,
boulevard
and
york.
Road,
the
signs
in
question:
why
don't
we
probably
scroll
one
down
two
two
down,
so
we
can
see
them
better.
L
So
the
signs
in
question
are
one
sound
sign
facing
south
in
previous
drp
meetings.
We
came
and
we
had
signs
on
the
south,
but
they
were
not
specifically
in
the
correct
location
and
they
were
not
specific
to
the
graphics
as
their
circ
as
this
one
circled.
So
we
just
wanted
to
come
back
and
clarify
this
particular
one.
So
this
one
that
says
the
york.
I
also
wanted
to
clarify
that
we
made
a
slight
error.
It's
not
centered
in
the
building
it
is.
It
is
on
the
western
most
center
of
the
building.
L
So
we
will
revise
two
sheets
that
this
one
and
two
sheets
down
which
will
locate
the
sign
in
the
correct
location,
but
it's
the
same
sign
same
size,
sign
and
same
artwork.
Everything
is
the
same.
It's
just
that
it
was
incorrectly
shown
in
the
center.
It
is
actually
again
on
the
left,
most
elevation,
basically
a
little
south
of
that,
because
it's
not
above
the
the
building.
It's
on
the
right
there.
It's
on
that
corner
of
the
building,
so
that
elevation,
as
you
can
see
the
south
elevation
we
have.
L
L
L
The
next
slide
is
page
number
10..
This
also,
as
I
was
explaining
earlier,
is
in
the
incorrect.
This
will
also
be
revised.
This
will
be
shifted
to
the
to
the
leftmost
side
of
the
south
elevation.
But
again
it's
the
same
size
same
artwork.
Everything
is
the
same.
It's
just
the
location,
that's
going
to
be
shifted.
L
We
talked
about
square
footage
and
then,
when
we
get
to
page
12
is
specifically
the
york
sign
details
with
colors
sizes,
and
previously
we
talked
about
square
foot.
Oh,
it
also
says
square
footage,
so
it
gives
you
that
clarification
and
then
on
the
last
page.
13
is
the
parking
signs
which
the
p
with
the
tenant
names
underneath.
L
L
Yes,
thank
you
jennifer,
so
the
idea
is
to
familiarize
the
customer
with
the
location
of
the
retail
that
they're
going
to
be
visiting.
So
if
they're
going
to
be
visiting
some
of
the
tenants
that
are
located
in
this
building,
then
it'll
make
it
easier
for
them
to
find
the
location
and
to
park
at
that
correct
parking
location
because,
as
you
know,
there
are
two
parking.
L
In
this
project,
there's
one
located
under
this
building
the
york
building,
which
is
a
one
level
about
approximately
50
spaces
that
is
specific
to
service
the
retail
on
this
building.
And
then
there
is
a
parking
garage
on
the
adjacent
building.
It's
a
three
level
parking
garage
that
will
service
whole
foods
and
will
service
some
residential
as
well.
So
the
purpose
of
this
is
to
clarify
and
make
the
customer
experience
better
as
they
approach
and
come
shop
at
the
center
and
visit
the
center
to
know
where
they're,
where
they
are
going.
A
Okay
with
that
I'll
start
with
mr
khan.
H
Thank
you
I'm
sorry,
mr
chairman,
can
we
read
our
stuff.
E
Yes,
there's
no
any
one
lip
on
the
chat.
H
So
it
looks
like
we
don't
have
any
speakers,
any
community
speakers
for
test
project
and
I
will
just
go
over
our
staff
report.
H
So
the
staff
report
was
prepared
based
on
the
comprehensive
manual
of
development
policies,
bathroom
county
landscape
manual,
balcony
method
plan
and
the
thousand
row
development
guidelines.
As
approved
may
21
2015.
H
The
elevation
shows
the
distance
that
appears
too
low
to
the
pedestrian
and
in
terms
of
elimination,
staff
recommends
approval,
subject
to
the
following
condition:
number
one
directional
signs
for
parking
directories
and
building
mounts
and
signs
shall
be
internally
eliminated
and
number
two
effort
should
be
made
to
only
eliminate
traffic
surfaces,
background
and
lattice
of
the
sign,
while
limiting
light,
fill
over
to
other
building
pedestrians
for
vehicles
and
to
keep
the
night
by
light
solution
to
a
minimum,
and
this
is
concluded.
H
K
Sure
I
think
the
comments
from
the
staff
are
right
on
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
I
think
because
of
the
steepness
of
york
road.
At
that
point,
I
think
it
is
critical
that
the
bottom
of
the
sign
might
be
carefully
determined
and
whether
that
clearance
is
is
fully
adequate,
but
I
think
that
otherwise,
I
think
the
staff
comments
dealing
with
the
lighting
and
the
types
of
of
signage.
I
think
there
are
exactly
what
we
would
expect.
A
Okay,
thank
you
donald,
mr
sharma.
D
C
A
A
Only
in
that
have
you
really
looked
to
see
how
visible
it's
going
to
be
when
you're
south
on
york
road,
with
the
sign
being
that
far
west
off
the
corner,
the
site
immediately
south
of
the
bypass
is
fairly
wooded
and
just
curious.
If
you
look
at
the
site,
you
know
being
that
far
up,
I'm
concerned
people
aren't
going
to
really
see
the
sign
until
they're,
very
close
to
the
intersection
and
at
which
point
they're
going
to
have
to
turn
it's
up
high.
A
L
That
is
that
it's
already,
it
was
already
proven
a
previous
crp
like,
and
that
is
being
so
that
view
from.
If
you're
coming
up
and
down
the
your
corridor,
you'll
see
that
sign,
there's
also
a
sign
on
the.
If
you
go
to
the
next
page
that
looking
at
the
east
elevation,
there
is
a
sign
over
the
lobby
of
the
residential,
also
on
york
road.
I
think
they
wanted
to
put
something
on
the
other
side
of
the
building,
to
give
a
different
perspective
of
the
building.
K
A
Thank
you
would
someone
like
to
make
a
motion.
K
I
would
move
that
we
approve
this
presentation
subject
to
the
comments
of
the
staff.
A
All
in
favor,
aye
aye,
any
nays,
okay,
signage,
as
submitted,
has
been
approved,
along
with
the
staff
comments.
Gentlemen,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation
doubly
appreciate.
Its
brevity
have.
E
Sorry,
mr
chairman,
this
is
brett.
Will
this
the
comments
be
addressed,
the
staff?
What
will
they
have
to
coordinate
with
the
planning
tab.