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Description
Special meetimg.
A
Meeting
of
the
Baltimore
plant
Baltimore
County
planning
board.
It
is
now
called
to
order
I'm
Nancy
Hafford,
the
chair,
and
we
will
now
start
our
meeting
with
a
roll
call
with
our
members
that
are
present.
When
you
hear
your
name,
please
say:
aye
Mr
array,
Miss
Brophy,
I,
Miss,
German,
aye,
Mr,
Hafer,
Mr,
Heckman,.
C
A
A
Thank
you
all
for
your
hard
work,
the
planning
board
and
the
planning
staff,
but
tonight
the
board
has
an
opportunity
to
further
deliberate
and
vote
on
the
master
plan.
2030..
This
item
was
first
introduced
to
the
board
on
May
4th
2023.
A
virtual
public
hearing
was
conducted
on
May
18
2023
on
June
1st
June,
8th
and
June
15th.
A
B
B
I
know
all
of
you
take
this
very,
very
seriously
and
recognize
the
importance
of
this
to
the
to
the
county
for
the
next
decade.
I
also
really
need
to
thank
the
staff
from
the
planning
department,
as
well
as
staff
from
other
agencies,
to
help
get
us
to
this
point
in
time,
really
LED
on
our
side
by
Amy,
Mante
and
Jen
Meacham,
but
everybody
in
the
department
participated
at
one
time
or
another.
B
B
At
the
same
time,
we've
always
acknowledged
that
we're
allowed
other
developmental
construction
will
take
place.
It's
not
to
be
confused
with
growth,
though
targeting
and
focusing
growth
is
not
the
same
as
enabling,
as
we
do
with
our
zoning.
The
actual
development
of
residential
or
commercial
structures
and
where
growth
takes
place
is
really
important.
B
That's
why
we
have
focused
on
the
retrofits
and
identified
so
many
nodes
for
potential
development
activity
and
realize
that
the
neighborhoods
themselves,
the
fabric
of
our
existing
neighborhoods,
are
critical
to
sustaining
the
quality
of
life
that
Baltimore
county
is
not
only
enjoy
but
want
to
see
for
themselves
and
for
the
future
and
we're
largely
a
Suburban
jurisdiction
with
some
densities
reflected
in
apartments
and
different
parts
of
the
county.
Almost
every
part
of
the
county
inside
the
hurdle,
at
least.
E
B
B
We
recognize
a
couple
of
the
ideas
that
we
Advanced,
including
changes
to
the
cdmp,
were
obviously
took
a
lot
of
time
to
discuss,
there's
an
alternative
being
presented
in
the
Amendments.
Today
we
realized
the
existence
of
a
pug.
The
planned
unit.
B
Development
has
also
been
critical
to
many
development
opportunities
in
the
county
and,
as
the
board
discusses
also
suggested,
as
an
amendment
maybe
time
it's
time
to
re-examine
that,
and
also
the
special
use
that
we
had
designated
TPA
and
now
we're
recommending
UMBC
be
included
in
that
category
for
its
unique
role
on
the
west
side
of
the
county,
but
also
that
part
of
the
LaFarge
property
currently
415
undeveloped
acres,
part
of
it
also
was
recommended
for
special
use
and
that's
part
of
our
discussion
tonight,
but
I
think
some
just
importance
or
so
loop
back
to
how
we
got
here
and
the
structure
and
the
work
that
really
has
led
us
to
wanting
as
the
format
of
our
APA.
B
A
A
A
I
Okay,
so
be
it
moved
that,
in
accordance
with
section
is
that
is
that
the
one
yes.
I
You
be
a
move
that,
in
accordance
with
section
32-2-201
of
the
Baltimore
County
code,
the
Baltimore
County
planning
board
hereby
adopts
the
Baltimore
County
master
plan.
2030
draft
presented
May
5th
2023
with
amendments
as
of
June
29
2023,
and
refers
the
plan
to
the
Baltimore
County
Council
for
further
consideration
and
adoption.
The
amendments
are
as
follows:
C
master
plan,
2030
planning
board
amendments
for
vote,
Word
document
for
suggested
motion
on
amendments.
A
A
J
A
G
B
A
F
C
A
B
A
A
So
I
I
hope
you've
heard
the
recent
discussion
we
just
had
so
now
we're
gonna
go
to
the
different
sequestered
items
when
I
call
for
each
one.
If
someone
would
like
to
make
a
suggested
motion
so
and
then
I
will
call
from
on
a
vote
from
all
our
board
members.
G
A
L
It
thank
you
motion
to
remove
all
hyperlinks
to
websites
outside
of
the
master
plan,
2030.
story,
maps
from
all
master
plan,
2030
story
maps
and
place
them
in
a
resource
page
on
the
master
plan,
2030
hub.
A
M
F
M
M
A
M
J
N
Sure
I'll
read
it
motion
to
add
a
statement
about
the
new
resource
page
on
the
master
plan,
2030
Hub,
in
the
overview,
how
the
plan
is
used
after
the
section
starting
main
topic
headings
can
be
found
in
the
table
of
contents
of
the
story.
Map
replace
it
with
a
resource
page
has
been
located
on
the
master
plan.
2030
Hub.
This
page
provides
additional
information
on
many
of
the
topics
in
the
plan.
M
M
M
M
A
J
N
N
34-4-102A
of
the
Baltimore
County
code
indicates
that
the
element
shall
conform
to
the
master
plan
and
any
adopted
Community
plans.
The
purpose
of
the
master
plan
2030
is
to
encourage
and
even
incentivize
growth
and
re
and
development
within
these
areas
deemed
most
suitable
for
retrofitting
four
retrofit
areas.
However,
growth
and
development
may
occur
anywhere
within
the
hurdle
and
in
certain
areas
outside
of
the
erdo,
where
zoning
would
permit
it.
Incentivizing
growth
in
certain
areas
does
not
mean
growth
outside
of
those
areas
is
inconsistent
with
the
master
plan.
2030.
I
M
L
Motion
to
add
the
following
state
and
the
master
plan
2030
overview
how
the
plan
is
used,
OV,
dot
up
dot
four
after
the
first
paragraph.
In
that
section,
development
activity
in
the
core
retrofit
areas,
like
all
development,
will
require
the
requisite
infrastructure
to
support
this
new
approach.
Well,
these
core
retrofit
areas
must
be
the
primary
focus
for
development
and
investment
over
the
next
decade.
Development
activity
is
permitted
outside
these
areas
and
will
continue
based
on
the
market
and
other
opportunities.
G
M
M
L
F
M
F
M
N
So
I'm
going
to
admit,
make
a
small
amendment
to
this
so
planning
stuff
I
can
send
you
a
written
copy
of
this
after
the
meeting,
the
motion
is
to
revise
livable
built
environment
goal,
one
action
one
to
read
as
follows:
Baltimore
County's,
Urban
rural
demarcation
line
ertle,
was
established
over
50
years
ago
and
has
not
been
systematically
reviewed
for
at
least
four
decades
prior
to
beginning
work
on
the
next
master
plan.
D
O
N
O
We
are
saying
that
it
is
supposed
to
reinforce
the
existing
hurdle
until
it's
such
time
that
we
may
want
to
look
at
changing
it.
But
in
the
meantime,
what
what
should
the
plan
not
reinforce
the
existing
hurdle.
O
Yeah
I
think
you
could
just
add
your
Amendment
who
that
action,
one
to
that
first
sentence,
just
add
it
onto
it:
tag
it
onto
it.
I
think
it
would
be
fine.
I
Mark,
but
not
to
cut
you
off
but
I'm
sorry.
Is
it
Taylor
that
sharing
her
screen?
Would
you
would
you
mind
sharing
what
Mark's
reading
just
so
that
all
the
planning
bar
members
can
see
as
well.
B
I
E
O
So
I
I'm
recommending
that
we
retain
the
first
sentence
and
I'll
read
it.
Creating
Redevelopment
framework
that
reinforces
the
existing
Urban
rural
demarcation,
mind
vertical
and
focuses
on
Redevelopment
strategies
through
Community
planning
policies
and
then,
after
that,
Ed
Scott's,
Baltimore,
County's
hurdle
was
established
over
50
years
ago
and
has
not
been
systematically
reviewed
for
at
least
four
decades
prior
to
beginning
work.
O
N
Yes
and
well
a
clause
that
that,
as
part
of
the
the
review
that
we
also
look
at
to
what
degree
it
may
have
contributed
to
past
racial.
N
D
Oh,
you
don't
know,
it
hasn't
been
considered.
You
just
know
it
hasn't
been
changed.
N
D
Do
you
mean
that
none
of
the
previous
groups
have
even
considered
it
let
alone
making
a
motion.
N
There
has
been
I
have
seen
no
comprehensive
reports
or
anything
that
made
it
yeah.
It
may
have
had
discussions
in
in
meetings,
but
there
has
been
no
con
that
I'm
aware
of
there's
no
comprehensive.
You
know
data
collection
planning
comparing
to
other
there's,
been
no
reports
again,
not
that
I've
ever
seen.
A
A
I
A
M
F
M
J
I
So
the
motion
is
to
revise
the
livable
built
environment
goal
in
action.
Two
lbe
1.2
to
read
as
follows:
evaluate
the
current
planned
unit
development
PUD
process
to
assess
its
success
and
ensure
it
is
transparent,
clearly
articulates
eligibility
requirements,
conveys
tangible
Community
benefits
and
ensures
a
higher
quality
development.
K
M
F
A
J
A
M
M
M
A
M
A
F
M
O
I
I
moved
to
revise
the
livable
built
environment
goal,
one
action
eight
to
read
as
follows:
the
planning
department
I
think
that's
a
typo.
Any
the
planning
department
and
the
planning
board
shall
create
a
task
force
to
study
the
current
comprehensive
zoning
map
process
and
recommend
improvements
to
make
it
more
effective
and
easier
for
retrofitting
communities,
as
proposed
in
the
growth
framework.
G
O
G
O
Is
just
suggesting
that
we
remove
the
10
years,
but
we
still
look
at
and
study
whether
it's
the
best
process.
We
can
come
up
with.
M
A
H
M
M
O
That's
me
again
and
I
believe
we
talked
about
this
at
our
last
meeting.
I
moved
to
add
a
new
action
to
livable
built
environment,
go
to
action
9
to
read
as
follows:
in
support
of
encouraging
the
new
development
of
attainable
housing
consistent
with
retrofitting
communities,
as
proposed
in
the
growth
framework,
the
Baltimore
County
Department
of
Housing
and
Community
Development.
So.
O
And
pull
currently
available,
Baltimore
County
state
and
federal
incentives
and
resources
available
to
Residents
and
Developers.
In
addition,
dhcd
in
concert
with
other
County
departments
shall
identify
and
propose
potential
new
incentives
which
may
include
additional
financial
assistance,
new
infrastructure
and
public
improvements,
as
well
as
administrative
support,
which
may
include
streamlining
and
Expediting
County
approval
processes.
F
D
Chairman
I
like
to
object,
well
discussion,
I
object
to
this
because
of
the
following
reasons:
what
we're
doing
is
increasing
the
density
in
one
area,
baseball,
Monies
and
incentivizing
people
from
the
area
around
the
area
to
move
to
this
area
for
free
stuff.
Now
what
it
does
is
increasing
the
density
without
increasing
the
without
regard
to
the
schools.
In
fact,
it
has
on
schools
and
in
facts.
D
It
has
on
the
people
currently
living
in
those
areas,
people
who
have
worked
for
decades
or
generations
to
live
in
a
safe
environment,
and
then
they
have
a
overwhelming
number
of
people
put
right
next
to
them.
What
this
and
what?
What
this
does
eventually
is
they
get
fed
up
and
they
will
sell
and
move
further
out
away
from
them.
Thank.
A
H
H
K
A
C
O
B
Other
actions
that
are
directing
or
recommending
the
county
take
action,
so
it
could
be
broader
than
just
say
the
county,
even
though
I
know,
Mr
Heckman
is
quite
concerned
about
accountability
that
if
just
at
Baltimore
County,
instead
of
dhcd
Might
achieve
the
same
goal.
O
I
I
think
I,
don't
want
to
say
that
you
shall
do
it.
I
am
encouraging
them
to
do
it
in
the
county.
To
do
it
so.
P
P
I
was
saying
that
I
didn't
watch
TV,
remove
the
housing,
a
Community
Development.
You
just
put
the
county
Baltimore.
O
Pass
I
guess
I
feel
like
it's
the
we
should
identify
the
appropriate
agency
that
should
be
doing
it
and
I
think
it's
dhcd
and
and
assign
it
to
them.
Otherwise,
it
just
kind
of
gets
locked
in
the
Old
Baltimore
County
umbrella,
but
if,
if
it
doesn't
pass
I'd
be
willing
to
change
it
to
what
Steve
suggests.
G
O
A
P
A
A
O
M
A
E
F
C
N
So
these
next
two
motions
are
are
sort
of
new.
Given
the
recent
announcements
about
the
you
know
the
red
line
being
back
on
track.
It's
simply
trying
to
make
the
master
plan
acknowledge
and
and
try
to
work
with
that.
A
I
N
Good
question
and
let
me
see
if
I
can
find.
B
Mr
Olympia,
if
I
can
jump
in
for
a
minute.
Currently,
there
is
between
planning
the
Department
of
Public,
Works
and
transportation
and
the
administration
conversations
underway.
So
it
could
be,
you
could
add
the
administration
or
the
County
government.
Something
of
that
nature
if
it
makes
it
clear.
P
A
I
think
the
reason
that
they
were
introducing
it
is
the
master
plan
has
no
discussion
of
this
of
the
red
line
area
and
now
that
it
wasn't
on
the
table
before
it
just
was
something
new
that
came
out.
So
that's
why
they
are
looking
to
address
it
because
I
don't
know,
if
you
remember
under
Hogan
it
dropped
they
didn't
they
weren't
going
to
do
anything.
So
that's
why
it
wasn't
in
the
master
plan.
P
Right
I
was
working
on
this
when
I
was
with
Transportation
because
he
dropped
this,
but
I'm
just
saying
whether
it
is
mentioned
in
in
here
or
not
they're
still
going
to
be
coordination.
We
are
not
creating
the
law.
Here
is
already
the
department
of
planning
Transportation
local
government.
They
are.
They
have
that
obligation
to
call
neighbor
the
state.
So
do
we
really
have
the
urge
to
mention
this
thing
here?
Does
that
belong,
and
why
is
it
in
here
Madam,
chair.
A
Q
This
is
Mr
Johnson
I
I
personally
have
a
problem
with
adding
this
without
having
a
discussion,
we've
had
three
or
four
meetings
and
I
know
it
just
came
up,
but
I
just
feel
more
Comfort
I
would
feel
more
comfortable
if
we
had
a
chance
to
discuss
this
I
mean
to
look
at
it
before
we
just
added
to
it,
but
that's
just
my
personal
opinion,
so
I
mean
I
can
vote
against
it,
but
I'm
just
saying
I
just
think
it's
better.
P
Madam
chair,
what
I'm
saying
is
whether
it
is
in
it
here
or
not.
It
is
still
going
to
happen
because
there's
already
coordination
between
all
the
Departments,
including
Baltimore,
County,
planning,
board
transportation
and
all
the
other
agencies.
So
what
I'm
saying
is
it
doesn't
even
have
a
place.
It
does
not
belong
in
here.
It's
an
indication.
We
don't
have
to
mention
it.
We
have
no
role
in
it,
but
it's
going
to
happen
whether
it
is
in
or
not
so
should
it
be
in.
It
should
not
be
an
item
that
we
should
even
bought
off.
A
Well,
one
of
our
fellow
board
members
felt
it
was
important
to
put
it
in
here.
So
what
I
think
we
need
to
do
is
Mr
halipka
made
a
motion
and
we'll
see
if
we
get
a
second
and
then
we'll
see
if
it
passes,
if
it
doesn't
pass,
if
there's
no,
then,
but
then
we
don't
make
a
a
different
motion,
then
it
just
doesn't
go
in
so
Mr
halipka.
Do
you
want
to
still
entertain
the
motion
as
you
presented
it.
N
C
A
N
This
simply
inserts
the
same
sort
of
language
into
a
second
part
under
responsible
regionalism
goal
to
action.
One
and
again
I'll
amend
this,
that
the
county
shall
collaborate
with
Baltimore
city
state
and
Baltimore
County
communities
to
establish
a
Transit
service
that
runs
from
west
of
Security
Square
Mall
East
into
trade,
Point,
Atlantic
and
potentially
into
Essex.
C
K
K
I
had
a
question
for
Steve
Lafferty,
which
is:
is
it?
Is
it
just
common
practice
to
have
the
same
kind
of
goal
in
two
different
places
or
or
is
it
the
practice
to
have
kind
of
one
goal
in
one
place?
I,
don't
know
what
the
what
the
practices
on
this,
but
it
just
seems
to
be
redundant
to
me.
It's
like
pick
a
lane
and
be
in
that
lane.
B
I
think
that
that's
a
great
Point
we
do
Express
transportation
and
the
need
for
Transit
growing
our
transit
system
in
the
transportation
and
livable
built
environment.
B
At
the
same
time,
we
have
a
set
of
regional
goals,
so
I
don't
think
it's
unnecessarily
redundant
because,
depending
on
where
you're
focusing
your
your
attention,
if
you
will,
whether
it's
on
Regional
issues
or
on
Transportation
per
se,
but
certainly
if
the
board
feels
it
is
redundant
as
you're
suggesting
it
could
be
stretching
from
one
of
these.
M
I
Motion
to
revise
resilient
economy
goal
three
action.
Two
read
as
follows:
implement
the
recommendations
from
the
report
in
response
to
County
Council
resolution
12-20
agricultural
buildings
for
Value
agriculture,
September
2022,
including
news
adaptive,
reuse,
changes
in
the
County's
review
process
and
agricultural
building
exemptions.
B
Yes
in
in
2020,
there
was
a
a
work
group
that
came
forward
with
the
standard
recommendations
to
look
at
initially
it
was
focused
on
agricultural
buildings,
but
therefore
it
dealt
with
the
process
by
which
AG
buildings
had
been
approved,
as
well
as
the
uses
of
the
buildings
in
what's
referred
to
as
value-added
agriculture.
The
items
that
are
identified
specifically
in
this
motion
are
the
categories
that
were
reviewed
in
that
report
and,
as
I
think
Mr
Warren
made
reference
at
the
last
meeting.
B
The
report
was
never
formally
adopted
or
the
council
never
acted
on
the
provisions,
and
so
it
really
is
looking
at
that
report
and
pulling
out
the
items
that
they
had
recommended
be
addressed.
There
are
three
different
zoning
definitions,
depending
on
the
intensity
of
the
use
by
value-added,
Agriculture
and
value-adding
could
be
a
brewery.
It
could
be
a
winery,
it
could
be
corn
mazes
or
it
could
be
a
where
someone
is
actually
educating
the
community
about
agricultural
practices
and
so
the
definitions.
There
are
three
sets
of
definitions
that
are
referred
to
as
well
in
this
report.
N
E
J
G
M
M
F
A
J
M
N
This
is
a
motion
to
revise
the
first
statement
in
the
growth
framework
to
Now
read
as
follows:
I'll
note
that
I'm
going
to
make
one
small
edit
to
what
we
had
before
it's
to
add
the
following
statement.
Additional
analysis
was
completed
by
the
planning
department
to
remove
sites
that
were
too
small
to
fit
the
Redevelopment
philosophy
or
not
appropriate
for
redevelopment
examples
of
sites
not
appropriate
for
redevelopment
include
sites
owned
by
state
or
community
colleges,
Baltimore,
County,
Park
or
School
sites
or
dge
utility
sites
area
I
would
drop.
N
A
M
F
C
M
L
I
motion
to
add
the
following
statements
to
growth
framework:
Place
types
gf5
after
the
statement,
the
master
plan,
2030
Place
types,
math,
provides
General
recommendations
for
land
use
based
upon
the
vision,
framework
goals
and
actions,
as
well
as
the
retrofit
analysis
described
above.
In
particular,
the
map
identifies
areas
the
most
suitable
for
retrofitting
growth
and
development
with
the
within
these
areas
should
be
encouraged
and
even
incentivized.
L
However,
development
may
occur
anywhere
within
the
hurdle
and
in
certain
areas
outside
of
the
hurdle,
whereas
voting
would
permit
it.
Incentivizing
growth
in
certain
areas
does
not
mean
growth
outside
of
those
areas
is
inconsistent
with
the
master
plan.
2030..
The
map
is
conceptual
consumption
conceptual
and
intended
to
reflect
future
land
use
patterns
that
would
support
the
land
use
objectives
of
the
master
plan.
2030.
L
B
Man,
chairman
may
I,
ask
Miss
Pinero
a
question:
yes,
so,
okay
in
the
second
or
that
last
paragraph,
where
it
says
incentivizing
grows
in
certain
areas,
does
not
mean
without
side.
Those
areas
is
inconsistent.
Do
you
mean
development
or
actual
approach?
Because
the
previous
statement
has
to
do
with
allowing
development,
as
we
know,
will
occur,
whether
it's
by
infill
or
perhaps
outside
the
herbal?
Even
but
are
you
talking
about
growth
areas,
because
that
does
seem
in
a
way
inconsistent
with
focusing
on
the
retrofit
areas.
D
L
L
A
E
M
F
F
M
A
L
Okay
I
motion
to
revise
the
gross
growth
framework,
Place
types
gf5
descriptions
for
establishment
for
Hood
to
read
as
follows:
areas
within
the
hurdle
not
with
not
within
connecting
neighborhoods
and
nodes
consist
of
a
mix
of
established
commercial,
industrial
and
residential
areas.
Although
much
of
this
area
is
already
developed,
there
is
still
opportunity
for
new
and
infill
development
and
Redevelopment.
A
B
Ms
Mante
may
be
able
to
describe
the
difference.
17,
which
was
Miss
Panera,
has
been
broken
out
into
two
pieces,
one
established
neighborhood
and
then
the
other
is
connected.
Neighborhood,
whereas
18
and
19
from
Mr,
Heckman
and
sir
are
focused
on
the
same
issues
about
established
neighborhood
and
connected
neighborhoods,
so
maybe
Miss
man
take
can
describe
some
of
the
differences
and
it's
not
to
say
not
to
vote
on
Miss
paneros.
Only
that
there's
a
difference
with
Mr
heckman's,
which
the
board
members
may
want
one
or
the
other.
R
What
okay,
so
17,
a
and
17b
I
just
took
what
planning
to
remember
punero
initially
provided
us
and
just
noted
that
it
was
going
to
need
two
motions.
So
that's
why
there's
two
versions
for
that
18
is
the
motion
that
was
put
or
the
amendment
that
was
put
forth
by
planning
board
member
Heckman.
R
It
does
look
like
there
is.
You
know
some
difference
there.
Between
kind
of
his
description
of
the
connected,
neighborhoods
and
nodes,
I
mean
I.
I
would
have
to
go
back
and
read
exactly
where
it
was.
But
let's
see
here,
18
and
19.
R
J
O
Yeah
I'll
be
happy
to
try
to
explain
I
I,
don't
disagree
with
everything
that
Katie
is
suggesting
in
in
17A
and
17b.
Although
I
tried
to
provide
a
slightly
more
definition
to
what
the
connected
neighborhood
is
versus
an
established
neighborhood
because
I'm
afraid
when
I
read
Katie's
versions
of
it,
they
almost
sound
like
they're
the
same
you
know
they
both
they
both
can
play
contain
commercial
industrial.
So
what's
the
difference
between
17A
and
17b,
it's
it's
there's
not
much
of
a
distinction.
O
It
kind
of
blurs
the
lines
I
think
too
much
between
what
is
a
connected
neighborhood
and
an
established
neighborhood,
and
primarily
the
differences
in
the
established
neighborhood.
In
that
you
know
established
neighborhoods
are
supposed
to
be.
You
know
the
where
it's
primarily
residential
and
and
we
don't
want
I,
don't
think
to
encourage
Industrial,
Development
or
a
bunch
of
commercial
development.
That's.
O
In
those
neighborhoods,
of
course,
but
I
don't
think
it
should
be
the
primary
land
use
in
those
in
those
neighborhoods.
As
you
know,
single
family,
housing,
nice
little
neighborhoods
and
I
think
we've
received
I
understand.
Signing
department
has
received
some
comments
from
leaders
from
different
neighborhoods
Perry
Hall
Middle
River.
Those
are
the
ones.
I
can
recall
that
are
concerned
about
the
fact
that
you
know
if
we
don't
say
something
like
and
I
inserted,
the
sentence,
the
nature
and
character
of
those
neighborhoods
should
not
substantially
change
within.
O
You
know
the
next
10
years,
the
of
the
master
plan.
Then
they
were
going
to
lose
the
character
of
those
neighborhoods.
You
know
I
think
our
goal
should
be
in
established
neighborhoods.
We
don't
want
to
substantially
change
the
character
by
allowing
a
bunch
of
commercial
and
Industrial
Development
and.
L
Mr
Heckman
I,
don't
disagree
and
I
don't
have
all
of
my
paperwork
with
me
as
I
am
on
vacation
and,
unfortunately,
I
left
it
at
home,
but
I.
The
issue
that
I
have,
if
I
remember
correctly
from
my
notes,
is
that,
like
particularly
that
the
areas
that
I
know
well
like
the
York
Road
Corridor
I,
believe
showed
this
as
an
established
neighborhood
on
the
map.
L
That
does
already
I
mean
if
anybody
is
familiar
with
York
Road
and
the
Timonium
area,
Timonium
Lutherville,
copiesville
area,
that
area
does
have
an
extreme
amount
of
commercial,
it
does
have
industrial.
You
have
to
go
quite
a
large.
You
know
several
like
at
least
a
half
a
mile,
if
not
more,
to
get
to
residential.
So
the
current
map,
as
is
already,
shows
that
if,
if
I'm,
if
I'm
remembering
my
notes
correctly
yeah.
O
I
think
I
think
you're
you're
correct.
There
are
some
corridors
and
I
think
you
could
even
say
Reisterstown
is
similar,
but
the
the
plan
has
identified
certain
areas
of
those
as
nodes
and
that
you
know
you
have
your
notes
and
then
you
have
your
connected
neighborhoods
around
those
nodes
which
does
allow
some
commercial
and
Industrial
and
then
beyond.
That
is
where
you
have
your
mostly
single-family
neighborhoods
and
those
are
established
neighborhoods.
L
K
Yeah,
so
this
is
Chris
I
I
have
both
of
them
in
front
of
me
on
paper,
and
the
only
difference
between
the
two
that
I
can
see
is
that
in
marks
it's
that
there's
one
sentence.
However,
the
nature
and
character
of
these
neighborhoods
is
not
expected
to
substantially
change
within
the
next
decade.
Katie.
If
that
sentence
can
be
added
to
yours,
then
that
that's
it
because
the
line,
otherwise
the
language
is
identical.
G
I
gotta
say
if
I
could
jump
in
I,
I
gotta
say
that
I
I.
My
challenge
with
this
is
that
we're
going
to
you
know
the
whole
plan
has
built
around
a
15-minute
City
and
bike
ability
and
that
these
communities
may
change
dramatically
and
we
may
want
to
redevelop
some
of
this
I
mean
you
know,
I.
Think
stabilized
communities
were
built.
You
know,
especially
before
World
War
II.
That's
that's.
O
L
And
this
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
wanted
the
the
definition
of
industrial
included
was
so
I
I.
Think
industrial
gets
sort
of
a
bad
rap
and
I'd
like
to
know
what
industrial
exactly
is,
how
that
is
defined
because
I
industrial
does
not
mean
trade
Point
Atlantic,
you
know
when
we
act
but
or.
B
L
Well,
I
asked
to
have
it
added
to
the
list
of
definitions
that
was
provided
and
that's.
R
When
I
wrote
you
back
this
morning
about
for
yesterday,
and
you
said
you
said
you
were
asking
to
change
the
language
in
this
motion,
let
me
pull
up
the
left
version.
L
And
it's
where
another
thing,
sorry
just
to
go
back
to
where
while
Amy
looked
for
that
for
me,
it's
where
I
believe
it
says,
established
commercial,
establish
industrial
established
residential
areas.
It's
already.
You
know
it's
already
developed
areas,
but
they're
still
developed
like
air.
We
still
want
to
be
able
to
use
to
develop
it
or
redevelop
that
area.
Q
And
Mark
and
yours,
why
did
you
remove
where
higher
density,
new
or
Airfield
development
can
occur?
Why
don't
you
move
that?
Where
the
I
think
it
says
where
higher
density
or
new.
O
Right
because
I
didn't
want
to
make
it
sound
like
we
were
suggesting
that
it
had
to
be
higher
density:
okay,
I'm,
okay
with
residential
development,
low
density,
medium
density
or
whatever.
But
it's
with.
D
O
Says
it
almost
sounds
like
we're,
encouraging
a
regular
density.
G
G
E
A
What
we
should
do
is
everyone
take
a
moment
to
read,
Miss
Panera's
motion
and
then
Mr
heckman's
motion
and
then
we'll
and
the
one
you
feel
the
most
comfortable
with
you
support
are
change
it
so
we're
right.
Now
we
have
Miss
Panera's
motion.
E
J
B
P
A
M
A
L
Motion
to
revive
revise
growth
framework,
Place
types,
gf5
descriptions
for
connected
neighborhood
to
read
as
follows:
Aries
connecting
established,
neighborhoods
and
nodes
that
consist
of
a
mix
of
commercial,
industrial
and
residential
areas
where
higher
density,
new
or
infill
development
or
Redevelopment
could
occur,
including
a
variety
of
housing
types
such
as
detached
family,
single
family,
Town,
Homes
and
Apartments.
These
places
contain
the
population
needed
to
support
the
node
which
they
surround:
primary
land,
use,
commercial,
industrial
and
medium
and
high
density,
residential.
I
P
I
F
M
N
M
M
M
O
I
moved
to
revised
Place
type
established
neighborhoods
to
read
as
follows:
areas
within
the
hurdle
not
within
connected
neighborhoods
and
nodes,
consists
of
a
mix
of
established
commercial
and
residential
uses.
Although
much
of
this
area
is
already
developed,
there
is
some
limited
opportunity
for
new
and
infill
development
and
Redevelopment.
O
O
E
J
L
E
L
Sorry,
my
children
walked
in
what
I.
Let
me
Mr
Heckman.
Would
you
be
okay,
although
much
of
this
area
is
already
developed
there?
So
let
me
know,
however,
the
nature
and
character
of
these
neighborhoods
is
not
expected
substantially
chained
within
the
next
decade.
The
nature
and
character
of
the
established
residential
areas,
Within
These
neighborhood.
L
P
P
P
L
I
think
that's
the
point.
That's.
O
B
B
I
guess
I
think,
and
you
mentioned
York
Road
earlier
down,
or
you
know
down
on
York
Road
in
the
Southern
and
where
you
have
older
commercial
districts
like
where
the
stonely
shops
are
and
things
of
that
nature,
as
well
as
the
commercial
that
serves
the
neighborhoods
even
up
in
Timonium.
That's
why
I
just
I
just
know
why
the
distinctions?
That's
all.
L
J
Kathy
so
are:
will
this
exclude
the
conversion
to
residential
of
vacant
commercial.
B
L
And
certainly
I
would
think
mixed-use
development
as
we're
seeing
you
know
very
successful
mixed
youth
developments
coming
in.
O
P
K
O
M
M
E
O
I
moved
to
revised
Place
type
connected
neighborhoods
to
read
as
follows:
areas
connecting
established,
neighborhoods
and
nodes
that
consist
of
a
mix
of
commercial
and
residential
areas
where
infill
Redevelopment
could
occur,
including
a
variety
of
housing
types
such
as
detached
single-family,
townhomes
and
apartments.
These
places
contain
the
population
needed
to
support
the
node
which
they
surround.
J
J
A
M
F
L
A
M
B
L
P
P
E
L
Perfectly
honest
I
just
wanted
to
add
the
LaFarge
Quarry
fully
I.
Don't
remember
ever
asking
to
have
the
special
use,
Place
site
designation
now
that
I'm
thinking
back
I
just
wanted
the
whole
map.
The
whole
acre
415
acre
property
to
be
included
because
it
was
missing.
B
Well,
the
way
we
mapped
in
initially
was
the
way
that
we
felt
a
lot
more
appropriate,
since
only
part
of
it
was
identified
as
for
industrial
youth,
and
that
the
definition
that
we
have
currently
in
the
plan
does
talk
about
industrial
manufacturing
areas
that
include
other
uses,
which
could
include
retail
and
certainly
trade.
Point
Atlantic
fits
that
and
with
the
proposal
to
fill
warehouses
on
the
LaFarge
part
of
the
Department
of
property,
we
felt
that
it
was
appropriate.
B
Well,
we
we
believe
the
original
mapping
of
it
reflected
what
that
we
didn't
tell
for
that
particular
property
and
Miss
Pinera
wants
the
entire
property
mapped
as
special
use,
whereas
we
had
part
of
that
mapped
as
established
neighborhood.
L
P
G
P
A
L
B
L
E
A
A
C
A
C
F
M
J
N
N
The
university
also
recently
took
ownership
of
the
200
acre
Spring
Grove
property
situated
north
of
the
current
campus.
No
specific
plans
have
been
presented
for
this
site
that
also
contains
State
operated,
Psychiatric,
Services
and
county-owned
homeless
persons,
shelters
and
recreational
facilities
back.
G
P
N
I
think
the
idea
is
to
include
it
like
trade
Point
as
a
a
special
section.
You
know
it's
a
sort
of
a
part
of
the
county
where
special
use
types
where,
let's
see
what
do
we?
What
do
we
say
about
special
use.
J
I
think
well
in
the
in
the
next
motion.
There's
a
motion
to
Define
that
special
uses
and
it
does
not
include
residential.
B
So
if
I'm
a
manager,
this
was
actually
a
recommendation
that
came
from
the
public
during
one
of
the
public.
During
the
public
hearing
in
talking
with
the
administration,
we
recognize
that
UMBC
is
a
significant
player
on
the
west
side
of
the
county
and
with
the
exact
with
its
taking
control
of
the
Spring
Grove
property,
as
well
as
sort
of
expands
its
footprint.
It
has
a
tech
center
and
as
Mrs
Wolfson
just
referenced.
B
The
next
two
motions
really
expand
the
definition
of
special
use
so
that
it
would
address
research,
technology
and
Innovation
potential
at
UMBC.
We
know
that
the
current
and
former
presidents
of
this
call
University
are
both
pushing
a
lot
of
our
technology,
and
so
we
just
wanted
to
highlight
its
significant
on
the
west
side.
B
The
proximity
is
also
tie
it
to
the
presidential
communities
and
the
business
districts
in
a
way
that
really
created
a
really
pretty
exciting
dynamic,
so
that
that
was
the
basis
for
inserting
this
and
thanks
Mr
hay
for
for
voting.
Nobody
picked
up
before,
which
is
we
are
using
Southeastern.
Instead
of
Southwest
description,
dozens
of
people
looked
at
it,
which
I
think
so
that
was
the
impetus
for
creating.
D
G
A
Mr
Warren
you're
going
in
and
out
so
can
you
clearly
State
what
you
want
in
there
again.
A
Well,
this
is
Mr
halipka's
position.
Do
you
want
to
make
amendments
to
it
before
we
move
it
forward?.
B
K
Okay,
so
what
is
the
check
and
balance
to
UMBC
being
given
a
special
designation
if
they
wanted
to
build
a
shopping
center
on
Wilkins
Avenue
across
the
street,
from
those
beautiful
old
homes
that
are
there?
What
what
is
just
quickly
walk
me
through?
What's
the
what's
the
check
on
that.
E
B
K
Okay,
let
me
thanks.
Let
me
ask
a
different
way,
which
is
so
what
I'm
hearing
is
there's
really
no
difference
between
what
the
current
state
is
and
what
what
happened
if
this,
if
they
be
if
they
have
the
special
designation.
B
B
F
O
M
F
Q
J
B
N
B
K
F
F
G
N
A
motion
to
revive
revise
the
growth
framework,
Place
types
special
use
definition
to
read
as
follows-
includes
certain
industrial
manufacturing
and
research
technology
and
Innovative
areas
that
may
include
limited
other
uses,
including
retail,
either
function.
They
require
their
operation
to
be
separate,
except
those
with
similar
characteristics.
N
No,
that
was
removed
from
a
different
and
a
different
context
right.
N
Some
retail,
you
know
like
a
trade
Point
they've
got
some
stuff
for
the
people
that
work
there
I
don't
know,
I
think
it
actually
that.
H
F
F
M
P
L
Three
I'm
sorry
I'm
sorry
I
was
like
wait.
I'm
really
off
motion
to
add
the
filing
statement
to
the
growth
framework,
land
use
processes.
D
L
A
A
J
L
Motion
to
revise
sections
of
the
growth
framework
land
use
process
is
gf6
regarding
tzmp
to
read
as
follows.
This
should
take
place
over
the
course
of
10
years
in
alignment
with
the
decennial
census
and
master
process.
Ideally,
changes
to
zoning
should
I
believe
it
should
be
should
occur.
Not
wood
should
occur
through
the
comprehensive
donate
process
ccmp
after
the
adoption
of
a
master
plan
and
following
the
recommendation,
recommendations
included
therein.
L
The
comprehensive
zoning
map
process
occurs
every
four
years
and
enables
members
of
the
public
to
submit
requests
for
zip
changes
to
any
piece
of
land
to
Baltimore
County,
regardless
of
ownership
of
the
land
with
the
frequency
of
the
czmp.
The
council
should
have
the
ability
to
make
updates
to
the
master
plan
as
needed
to
keep
Pace
with
changing
needs
and
trends.
G
L
L
Just
sorry,
real,
quick,
there's,
two
motions
here,
I
think
we
could
just
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong.
Could
we
just
go
with
the
motion?
The
second
motion
motion
to
remove
all
remaining
content
in
the
growth
framework
land
use
processes.
Do
you
have
the
sixth
section
regarding
czmp,
beginning
with
rezone
every
four
years
through
and
including
into
under
resource
planning
activities?
R
They're
a
second,
there
are
separate
pieces
in
the
text
that
you'll
need
to
make
a
motion
on
the
first
one
and
then
make
that
motion
on
this
bigger
one.
Okay,.
L
So
motion
to
revive
sections
of
the
growth
framework,
land
use
processes
gf6
regarding
czmp,
to
reads
as
follows:
the
comprehensive
zoning
map
process
czmp,
of
course,
every
four
years
and
enables
members
of
the
public
to
submit
requests
for
zoning
changes
to
any
piece
of
land
in
Baltimore
County,
regardless
of
ownership
of
the
land
with
the
frequency
of
the
czmp.
The
council
should
have
the
ability
to
make
updates
the
master
plan
as
needed
to
keep
Pace
with
changing
needs
and
trends.
A
K
A
G
Q
J
B
K
It's
a
midnight,
it's
the
24
hours
of
sunlight
here
now.
A
H
L
E
H
C
A
M
O
Emily
I'll:
do
it:
okay,
I,
moved
to
add
the
following
statements
to
growth
framework
land
use
processes,
gf6
regarding
czmp
study,
comprehensive
zoning
map
process,
the
Z,
the
czmp
and
cycle
zoning
process
should
be
evaluated
and
updated.
The
planning
department
and
the
planning
board
should
undertake
a
comprehensive
study
to
evaluate
the
Effectiveness
and
efficiency
of
the
current
czmp
and
cycle
zoning
process
and,
if
appropriate,
develop
and
evaluate
options
to
the
current
czmp
and
cycle
zoning
process,
including
the
timing
of
and
the
frequency
of,
the
processes.
P
F
A
F
I
I'll
read
that
motion
to
revised
Vision
framework,
livable
built
environment
goal,
one
action
eight
to
read
as
follows:
the
planning
department
and
the
planning
doors
shall
create
a
task
force
to
study
the
current
comprehensive
zoning
map
process
and
cycle
zoning
process
and
make
recommendations
where
the
process
may
have
opportunities
for
improvement,
to
make
it
more
effective
and
easier
for
retrofitting
communities,
as
suggested
in
the
growth
framework.
G
A
I
A
J
L
A
L
We
go
I
motion
to
revise
growth
framework
development
processes,
gf7
to
remove
language,
recommending
changes
to
the
planned
unit
development
process
and
to
read
as
follows.
Many
of
the
development
manuals
used
today
were
created
decades
ago
and
need
to
be
updated
in
order
to
reflect
modern
day
development
practices.
The
definition
and
application
process
for
a
Transit
oriented
development
Tod
needs
to
be
more
clearly
specified.
L
The
plan
unit
development
PUD
process
needs
to
be
evaluated
for
its
successes,
transparency
and
clear
articulation.
Eligibility
requirements,
Community
benefits
and
ensuring
a
higher
quality
development
is
achieved
at
project
end
land
unit
development
process.
A
planned
unit,
development
PUD
is
developed
development
that
may
propose
residential
recreational,
industrial
and
or
commercial
elements.
The
approval
process
for
a
HUD
is
similar
to
that
of
other
Land
Development
projects,
except
that
the
County
Council
must
determine
that
the
Pud
will
achieve
substantially
higher
quality
development
than
a
conventional
development
and
provide
a
public
benefit
that
would
otherwise
not
be
obtained.
A
O
Not
make
it
a
second
I'm,
sorry
metal,
chair
I
think
it
says
that
we
shall
review
it,
but
I
think.
E
O
G
R
A
Okay,
do
we
have
a
second
on
Miss
Panera's
motion,
okay,
Mr
Ray,
Miss
Brophy?
Yes,
Miss,
german,
yes,
Mr
Hafer,
yes,
Mr
Heckman,.
F
F
D
G
L
I
motion
to
add
the
statement
to
the
growth
framework
development
processes
gf7
after
the
sentence.
Puds
are
only
permitted
within
the
Urban
rural
demarcation
line,
the
Earl
with
the
ability
for
the
council
to
approve
uses
and
densities,
not
otherwise
permitted
by
the
underlying
zoning.
The
Pud
process
has
proven
to
be
a
valuable
tool
to
allow
for
development
and
Redevelopment
in
this
mature
jurisdiction.
B
B
Been
an
important
tool,
but
one
of
the
questions
that
was
discussed
earlier
by
the
board
is
Effectiveness
and
whether
it's
been
successful,
I
think
Mr
perlow
had
raised
the
question
about.
We
need
to
evaluate
the
successes
and
he's
right,
so
I
would
ask
or
wonder
if
it's
used
necessary
to
have
the
language
say:
valuable
tools,
Fields,
it's
a
tool,
isn't
necessarily
a
valuable
tool.
B
B
P
A
Well,
why
don't
we
do
this?
We
have
a
motion
on
the
floor.
I
think
we
have
a
second
and
if
people
just
if
you
don't
want
it
in
there,
then
don't
accept
the
motion
and
then
we'll
do
another
motion
how's.
That
okay,
are
you
feel
comfortable
with
that?
Okay,
Mr
array,
no
Miss
brothy,
yes,
Miss
German!
No.
F
C
L
Okay
motion
to
revise
the
section
of
the
growth
framework
development
process
is
gf7
to
read
as
follows.
The
Pud
process
should
be
reviewed
comprehensively
by
the
planning
board,
along
with
the
impacts
of
the
admission
of
the
planning
board
in
the
approval
process.
The
planning
board
should
study
the
existing
process
and
make
recommendations
to
make
it
easier
for
retrofitting
communities,
as
suggested
in
the
growth
framework.
A
A
I
So
Todd
this
is
the
one
that
has
euron
Howard's
name
on
it,
but
there's
no
suggested
motion.
I
think
you
guys
most
both
just
mentioned
that
the
maps
are
vague,
but
there's
no
motion
there.
A
Well,
I
cannot
thank
you
all
enough
planning
board
you've
given
so
much
time
on
this
and.
Q
A
M
A
B
A
A
H
C
M
G
A
This
is
the
conclusion
of
our
agenda
as
a
reminder,
our
next
meeting
is
on
Thursday
July
20th,
but
this
will
be
an
in-person
meeting
and
I'm
sure
I'm
going
to
get
this
to
move.
Do
I
have
a
motion
to
adjourn
motion.