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A
Right
good
evening,
everybody
I
think
we
might
as
well
launch
this
particular
boat.
I'd
like
to
thank
you
all
for
coming
for
this
first
licensing
meeting
of
the
current
local
year,
and
I'd
also
like
to
thank
the
portfolio
for
coming
to
attend
this
meeting,
which
is
always
helpful,
sometimes
to
have
the
portfolio
holder
present.
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A
B
A
A
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C
Okay
good
evening,
so
the
first
paper
that's
been
brought
to
the
licensing
committee
this
evening
is
for
the
approval
of
the
licensing
act
statement
of
policy
to
go
to
full
council
for
adoption.
The
licensing
act.
Statement
of
policy
is
the
policy
that
defines
the
regime
that
both
officers
and
this
committee
need
to
work
to
under
the
licensing
act
2003
as
part
of
that
act,
we
are
required
every
five
years
to
review
the
policy,
and
this
is
the
end
of
that
process.
C
It
also
was
shared
with
all
of
our
licence
holders,
but
there
was
no
actual
change
to
the
base
and
stoke
content.
Apart
from
the
fact
that
it
became
a
shared
service
policy
as
a
licensing
team,
we
are
a
shared
service,
so
we
work
for
both
bathing
stoke
and
for
hearts
as
a
licensing
committee,
there
are
two,
so
there
is
a
baiting
stock
licensing
committee
that
can
make
amendments
to
the
baiting
state
parts
of
the
policy
and
a
heart
licensing
committee
that
can
make
amendments
to
the
heart
parts
of
the
policy.
C
C
C
2310,
where
protection
for
sexual
harassment
was
added
to
the
list
of
pressure
economy,
preventions
the
consultation
response
from
the
police,
so
we
work
very
closely
in
partnership
with
hampshire
police
and
you
may
have
seen
the
press
release
on
the
12th
of
may
a
lot
of
what
they're
discussing
here.
We
are
already
doing
with
them
promoting
welfare
officers
within
the
night
nighttime
economy
to
protect
the
people
that
go
out
specifically
protection
for
women.
There
is
ask
for
angela
that
is
promoted
at
our
venues.
C
A
Thank
you
very
much,
so
we've
got
two
alternatives.
I
mean
I
I
don't
need
to
add
all
those
people
who
were
members
of
this
committee
last
year
will
be
aware
that,
except
for
the
one
exception
mentioned
that
this
document
is,
is
more
or
less
an
exact
reproduction
of
of
the
document
which
was
passed
by
full
council
last
year
for
this
committee.
A
A
I
don't
know
what
where,
where
whether
the
count,
whether
the
committee
feels
that
they
know
enough
about
it,
just
to
say
yay
or
nay
to
it
as
it
stands
or
whether
they'd
like
to
go
through
it
in
more
detail,
is
it
we
can
I
ask:
if
would
you
would
you
would
you,
like,
with
a
committee
like
us,
to
go
through
this
document
in
more
detail,
no
right?
Well,
in
that
case,
can
I
ask
if
anybody
wishes
to
raise
any
matters,
make
any
comments
in
general.
D
D
C
The
exact
savings
is
something
that
I'd
have
to
find
out
for
you,
but
all
shared
services,
because
you
share
the
staff
between
two
authorities.
It
makes
us
more
resilient
instead
of
having
to
apply
and
have
within
beijing
stoke
the
staff
that
we
have
here.
We
can
move
them
between
the
two,
so
there
are
savings,
but
that
is
something
that
I
would
need
to
get
and
be
able
to
bring
back
to
the
committee
for
you
with
the
exact
numbers.
D
Sorry
it'd
be
nice
to
know
because
you
know,
and
secondly,
I
think
has
it
got
any
detrimental
effects
concerning
not
having
offices
on
site
and
everything
else,
but
not
for
us
for
the
public
when
they
apply
and
things
like
that,
whether
it
has
or
not.
I
don't
know,
I'm
just
asking
the
question
or
whether
you've
got
anything.
E
I
hope
it's
okay,
if
I
respond.
Obviously
portfolio
is
new
to
me,
as
I'm
sure
you're
aware,
so
I
your
questions
are
totally
if
we
can
take
them
away.
Obviously
I
don't
think
they're
strictly
relevant
to
this
paper,
but
I
agree
with
you.
I
I
it
might
be
helpful
to
understand
a
bit
of
the
context
around
the
shared
service
and
for
me
it's
not
just
around
the
savings.
I
assume
there
must
have
been
some,
but
actually
in
terms
of
the
services
as
well.
E
Is
it
performing
as
we
would
expect
it
to
be
so
again,
new
portfolio
it'd
be
good
to
understand
what
the
kpis
are
and
how
we're
performing
against
those,
because
I
would
expect,
as
a
minimum
there
shouldn't
have
been
any
degradation
to
the
service,
for
example.
So
I
think
they're
things
that
we
can
definitely
take
away
and
come
back
to
on.
F
It
says
that
if
a
matter
to
be
decided
is
controversial
in
any
way
or
the
determination
of
the
matter
under
deal
that
goethe
has
is
precluded
by
law,
then
it
would
be
decided
by
the
full
council
or
licensing
committee
or
subcommittee
as
appropriate,
and
I
notice
on
at
appendix
b.
It
really
just
says.
The
only
thing
that's
referred
to
full
council
is
is
the
the
licensing
policy
itself?
G
Yeah,
the
full
council
involvement
is
the
approval
of
the
licensing
committee,
so
it's
prescribed
under
the
license
and
act
and
the
regulations
about
what
goes
through
license
in
subcommittee,
which
will
be
decisions.
Let's
say
if
there's
a
review
or
if
there's
objections
against
a
new
application,
so
that
potentially
could
be
yeah.
Maybe
it's
not
not
as
clear
in
13.3
as
it
could
be
license
and
subcommittee.
Decisions
are
then
subject
to
appeal
rights
to
magistrates
court,
as
opposed
to
you
know
higher
up
in
the
council
framework.
F
So
I'm
just
trying
to
think
you
know,
I
mean
we're
sort
of
somebody.
Just
was
rob
robert,
who
described
this
as
a
backwater
which
was
a
bit
rude
last
time,
but
if,
for
instance,
there
was
something
big
suddenly
happening
in
beijing
so
like
a
massive
great
mecca,
casino
was
going
to
be
considered
and
that
that's
big
that
affects
the
entire
of
the
entire
borough.
Really.
G
In
that
example,
we'll
be
subject
to
the
gambling
act
policy,
but
if
it
was
a
mega
night
club
that
came
here,
then
it
still
would
be
subject
to
the
same
procedures
under
the
licensing
act
which
is
prescribed
in
law.
So
it
would
come
through
offices
subject
to
statutory
consultation
in
which
his
public
consultation,
we
go
to
responsible
authorities,
and
anybody
can
object
against
any
application
as
long
as
it's
relevant
to
the
license
and
objectives.
G
If
we
get
representations,
then
the
next
stage
and
the
early
stage
that
the
council
will
be
involved
is
subcommittee
hearing
and
then
obviously
they
have
regards
to
the
license
in
policy
that
we've
got
in
place
and
then
the
appeal
right
is
to
the
magistrates
court,
not
not
full
council.
So
it
is
subject
to
wide
consultation.
G
But
it's
not
something
that
would
go
to
I
mean
they'd
have
to
get
presumably
planning
applications
and
things
through
other
departments
as
well,
but
but
from
a
licensing
perspective
it
would
just
be
through.
The
licensing
team
meets
the
the
advertising
regulations.
We
go
through
the
application
process
and
then
go
to
subcommittee.
If
we
have
relevant
objections.
H
Thanks
chair,
we've
always
been
a
nit
picker.
Can
I
refer
you
to
page
49,
which
is
2321
conditions
to
promote
the
prevention
of
public
nuisance,
and
it
says
there
the
applicant
will
be
expected
to
demonstrate
they
have
considered
the
following
and
included
steps
to
prevent
public
nuisance.
Can
someone
tell
me
how
an
applicant
can
control
the
availability
of
public
transport
to
and
from
their
premises,.
G
Well,
I
mean
there
are
steps
that
they
can
do,
because
if
they're
obviously
going
to
have
let's
say
something
like
car
fest,
for
instance
at
lava
stoke
park,
it's
in
the
middle
of
nowhere.
They
have
arrangements
on
site
to
provide
taxi
pick
up
and
collections.
They
have
pre-pokeball
lines,
they've
increased
their
mobile
phone
signals
so
that
people
can
book
taxis
from
there
you're
right.
It
has
no
influence
over
public
transport,
but
there
are
steps
they
can
put
in
place
to
try
to
aid
dispersal
and.
G
The
requirement
for
the
policy
is
that
they
have
they
considered
the
following
and
and
included
steps
to
prevent
public
nuisance,
so
that
takes
into
account
that
that
public
transport
to
and
from
the
policy,
if
there
is
none,
then
can
they
offer
anything
else
as
a
suitable
alternative,
or
you
know
trying
to
think
of
reasonable
steps.
Really
what
we've
got
car
fest
has
improved
over
years,
where
they
have
allowed
taxi
offices
on
site,
so
people
actually
will
walk
to
a
desk
and
actually
book
taxis.
I
I
What
is
concerning
is
like
some
of
the
kids,
basically
in
the
early
teens
and
people
get
fake
id
and
some
of
them
look
older
than
their
age.
How
are
you
going
to
prevent
all
that
happening?
Is
there
going
to
be
stricter
policies
or
something
on
top
of
this
to
protect
kids,
because
if
it's
at
all
entertainment
or
anything
else,
they
shouldn't
really
be
in
those
premises,
premises
and
that's
what
I'm
worried
about
them
getting
fake,
ids
and
getting
in
which
I
know
that
there's
been
a
problem
in
the
past
in
beijing,
dean.
G
Yeah,
so
the
licensing
act
isn't
obviously
to
prevent
miners
getting
into
pubs,
because
well-run
family
pubs
encourage
families
to
go
into
licensed
premises.
The
high
risk
nighttime
economy.
Yes,
we
expect
for
applications
to
include
measures
to
how
they're
going
to
ensure
that
miners
don't
get
into
licenced
premises
when
we
do
our
compliance
inspections
and
we
are
aware
that
they
hand
the
the
security
staff
do,
refuse
entry
they
keep
records
of
who
they
refuse
entry
and
why
they
refuse
entry,
whether
it
be
to
their
age
or
intoxication
levels.
G
They
also
confiscate
a
lot
of
fake
id,
which
they
then
provide
to
the
police
licensing
officers.
So
it
tends
to
be
yes
more
in
place,
so
they
will
have
sia
security
on
doors
at
late
night
places
and
they
will
do
their
checks.
They
have
to
have
a
mandatory
age
verification
policy.
We
push
for
challenge
25
most
of
the
town
center
late
night
premises
do
have
challenge
25,
if
not
challenge
21
but
but
yeah.
G
Those
are
the
premises
that
they
are
looking
to
put
measures
in
place
to
make
sure
that
miners
don't
get
in
obviously
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
licenses.
They
are
all
individual
premise
licenses
bespoke
to
their
own
pubs,
but
some
do
prohibit.
You
know
children
after
seven
pm,
others,
as
long
as
they've
got
a
responsible
adult
with
them.
But
if
there
are
issues
then
we
would
certainly
work
with
the
police
to
tighten
up
on
those
issues.
F
C
F
F
Well,
for
instance,
I
mean
I
I
I
I
don't
want
to
be
critical
in
any
way,
because
I
know
how
difficult
this
is,
but
just
for
I
mean
even
the
first
paragraph
doesn't
quite
make
sense,
but
if,
if
we
go
to,
for
instance,
paragraph
five
at
5.6,
it
talks
about
the
licensing
authority
is
plural,
but
then
at
5.7
it
talks
about
the
licensing
authority,
singular
at
5.8.
It
says
the
lysing
authorities
aims,
which
is
a
mix
of
sinclair.
F
F
Can
we
use
that
phrase
in
this
one
so
that
we
can
more
or
less
make
it
read
very
much
like
it
did
before
or
in
the
singular
understanding
that
we're
talking
about
both
at
the
same
time?
Obviously
there
are
one
or
two
places
where
we
have
to
separate
now
we're
talking
about
bathing
stock.
Now
we're
talking
about
heart,
but
would
it
work
to
talk
about
the
sis
rather
than
either
the
licensing
authority
or
authorities
or
councils
or
council?
C
F
But
what
I
mean
is,
throughout
the
whole
thing
where
you
talk
about
licensing
authorities,
change
it
to
sls.
I
know
it's
a
lot
of
work,
but
you
know,
as
as
councillor
godesson
said,
if
we're
going
to
be
in
front
of
magistrates
or
even
worse,
barristers
or
even
worse,
qcs,
it's
really
got
to
you
know
I've.
I've
been
belittled
by
too
many
of
these
barristers
before
I
don't
want
it
to
happen
again.
So
if
we
could
do
that,
that
would
be
excellent.
Thank
you.
C
C
I
I
C
The
very
short
answer
to
that
is:
no.
We
don't
have
any
jurisdiction
because
they're
privately
owned,
they
have
a
management
company
that
manages
it
and
we
don't
deal
with
any
of
the
complaints
that
come
from
within
those
privately
owned
entities,
but
to
if
there
are
any
complaints
or
frauds
of
anywhere
outside
then
andy
and
the
officers
would
deal
with
them.
I
Right,
okay,
so
the
reason
why
I
ask
that
question
is
because
of
the
impression
the
public
may
have
so
it'll
come
to
us
when
they
would
have
that
impression
that
it's
also
sort
of
basically
giving
them
the
permission
sort
of
thing.
So
I
know
you
said
it's
privately
owned,
but
can't
we,
what
I'm
trying
to
say
is
can't
we
build
a
relationship
with
them
to
know
who's
collecting,
who
isn't
collecting
what
why
they're
collecting,
etc.
I
C
We
do
have
a
relationship
with
their
management,
but
not
to
that
level
where
they
would
tell
us
every
collection
they
have
in.
I
know
when
I
go
down
at
lunch
times.
There
is
always
somebody
collecting
and
it's
also
it's
their
responsibility,
because
under
the
act
and
the
charities
act
1992
we
just
don't
have
any
authority
to
get
involved
on
things
that
are
on
private
land,
but
we
do
have
a
good
relationship
with
them.
F
F
But
there's
six
reasons,
and
I
can't
imagine
that
they're
exhaustive
is
it
possible
to
put
in
another
one
which
there's
something
like
or
any
further
reason
deemed
appropriate
for
refusal
or
something
which
gives
us
a
way
in
which
we
can
exercise
some
of
our
own
discretion,
because
I'm
sure
there
must
be
other
reasons
that
we
haven't
got
listed
in
six
here.
Is
that
is
it
possible
to
slip
something
like
that?
G
D
Yeah,
it's
it'd
be
nice
to
know
how
many
of
these
collections
are
done
over
a
yearly
thing
and
what
complaints
you
would
get
it'd
be
nice
to
have
a
report
once
a
year
or
whatever,
just
to
see
how
things
are
going,
because
we're
only
talking
really
at
the
top
of
town.
In
general
terms,
I
I
believe
I
I
know
he's
talking
about
festival,
places
and
owls,
but
I've
been
about
the
other
side
which
we
part
own.
We
have
collectors
there.
G
We
get
them
throughout
the
district
councillor,
so
you
get
them
especially
obviously
christmas
time
and
things
where
clubs
want
to
do
their
own
charity
collections.
So
it's
all
over
and
it
can
be
in
village
centers,
where
they're
looking
to
raise
funds,
we
yeah
we
can
do.
We
can
produce
a
report
and
let
you
know
what
the
statistics
are.
G
The
majority
of
them
do
take
place
in
supermarket
foyers
when
you
walk
in
and
have
supermarkets
and
a
festival
place,
so
we
don't
get
as
many
as
as
do
take
place
on
private
land,
but
it's
it's
fairly
significant
and
they
all
have
to
give
us
return
statements
as
well.
So
we
know
how
much
they've
collected
and
how
much
goes
to
the
charity.
G
Concerns
raised
to
us
about
the
conduct
of
people
that
are
I'm
collecting
some
charities.
Some
members
of
the
public
don't
feel
comfortable
with
the
fact
that
their
people
walk
with
them
and
try
to
ask
for
money,
for
instance,
but
the
code
of
conduct
is
in
place
to
protect
against
that
and
we
will,
if
we've
licensed
or
given
a
permit
to
a
charity
collection,
and
we
do
get
issues
with
them.
We
will
then
go
back
to
the
charity
and
obviously
work
with
them
to
see.
If
we
can
eliminate
that
happening
again.
E
At
risk
of
sounding,
like
I'm,
coming
in
new
and
now
trying
to
generate
work,
so
I
guess
I
would
worry
just
in
isolation,
kind
of
just
generating
reports
on
particular
kind
of
single
issue
items,
but
without
having
knowledge
of
kind
of
what
comes
to
this
committee,
and
when
I
wonder
whether
there's
a
piece
more
generally
around
the
service
types
of
applications
that
we
receive
particular
hotspots
in
terms
of
complaints,
which
then
may
focus
our
attentions.
Perhaps
so.
I
guess
I
think
your
point's
really
valid.
E
But
I
would
like,
I
guess,
as
portfolio
holder,
not
just
to
kind
of
narrowly
focus
on
one
particular
area.
But
actually,
if
we're
doing
something
like
this,
I
think
for
me
it
would
be
more
generally
across
the
piece-
and
I
hope
I
haven't
spoken
after
being
brand
new.
But
I
think
I
would.
Rather
it
wasn't
just
isolated
to
one
particular
issue
and
it
was
kind
of
more
broader
than
that.
D
I
think
you're
right
knowledge
is
what
we
we're
after
and
if
you're
asking
us
to
make
decisions,
we
need
the
knowledge
if
we
haven't
got
the
longest,
because
it's
charity,
we
nod
it
through
because
that's
what
we
believe
in
as
a
council,
but
we
do
need
to
a
little
bit
of
background.
That's
where
I'm
coming
from
I'm
not
saying
to
stop
it,
god!
D
No,
but
we
need
to
know
what
is
going
on
in
our
borough
because
of
the
you
know,
it's
a
big
borough,
as
you
say
I
I
naturally
assume,
but
wrongly
that
we're
talking
about
chocolate
down,
but
people
go
around
houses
and
different
things.
Don't
they
so
we
do
nice
to
know
whether
it's
a
every
year
or
just
once
in
a
while.
You
give
us
some
updates
on
what's
actually
happening.
C
I'm
more
than
happy
to
bring
a
report
back.
That
shows
what
happened,
especially
for
last
year
for
2021
I've
just
done
that
monthly.
I
do
kpi
reports.
So
we
look
at
the
what
we
have
coming
in
what
sort
of
complaints
we
have
and
that's
done
regularly
every
month.
So
we
can
do
a
summary
of
that
and
show
you
everything.
That's
happened
last
year
and
bring
it
back
to
committee.
For
you,
that's
not
a
problem.
H
I
Wanted
to
ask
you
about
the
check
checks
on
the
charities
and
the
individuals
who
are
working
for
the
charities.
How
robust
are
those
because
you
sometimes
hear
about
certain
things
happening
in
certain
cities
or
towns
as
well,
where
the
council
or
the
local
forces,
find
out
they've
been
collecting
for
something
completely
different
and
sometimes
for
certain
groups
that
are
banned,
etc?
C
So
the
checks
on
the
collectors
are
done
by
the
charities-
they're
not
done
by
us,
so
they
will
send
us
in
documents
to
say
who
is
collecting
where
they
are
collecting,
how
many
collectors
that
there
are,
but,
as
we
said,
there
is
no
fee
attached
to
this.
So
the
checks
at
our
end
are
what
is
required
by
us,
but
they
we
don't
do
additional
checks
like
we
would
for
a
taxi,
so
we
don't
do
dbs's
on
them
or
any
of
that
we
put.
C
A
C
C
So
so
far
this
year
we've
had
the
and
it's
called
taxi,
which
is
obviously
wrong.
Taxi
and
private
hire
disabilities
persons
act
that
has
just
come
out.
So
this
is
an
amendment
to
the
equalities
act
2010
and
it
is
to
stop
discrimination
about
against
disabled
people
who
are
using
the
trade.
So
there's
a
requirement
that
we're
currently
working
on
with
it
to
better
promote
those
vehicles
that
we
have
that
have
disabled
access,
we're
very
lucky
within
beijing
state
because
all
of
our
hackneys
are
disabled
access
vehicles.
C
C
So
if
any
other
authority
has
refused
suspended
or
revoked
well
done,
a
application
or
a
driver
for
a
relevant
offense
that
hasn't
resulted
in
a
conviction,
because
not
all
do
that
information
is
on
this
register
and
it's
held
for
a
period
of
25
years.
So
this
this
is
new
stuff.
That's
just
come
out.
C
C
So
it's
currently
being
analyzed
and
it's
been
led
by
the
minister
of
transport
so
she's
pushing
because
she
wants
a
nationalised
standard
for
our
trades.
It's
supposed
to
be
coming
out
in
the
autumn,
and
I
can
see
that
there
will
be
some
rather
interesting
papers
coming
back
to
committee.
At
that
point,
when
we
have
a
look
and
see
what
changes
that
we
need
to
make.