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A
A
A
For
the
benefits
of
members
of
the
public
watching
or
participating
in
this
meeting,
I
would
like
to
explain
who
everyone
is.
My
name
is
councilor
Nick,
Robinson
and
I'm,
chairman
of
this
committee,
to
my
right,
our
counselors,
who
will
be
making
decisions
on
the
applications
on
this
evening's
agenda.
A
The
development
control
committee
is
a
regulatory
committee
and
not
a
political
meeting.
The
committee
will
be
considering
the
published
papers
examining
the
evidence
brought
before
us
tonight
and
will
make
decisions
based
on
planning
reasons.
We
are
Guided
by
national
and
local
planning
policy
and
guidance
at
the
appropriate
time.
I
will
invite
speakers
to
contribute
to
the
meeting
in
the
order
set
out
in
the
update
paper.
A
A
A
B
Thank
you,
Jay
yeah,
regarding
item
seven
and
on
the
agenda
on
page
199.,
I'm
quoted
as
saying
I
I,
don't
see
how
this
application
Etc
I'd
like
to
point
out
that
the
officer
contact
me
on
the
15th
of
December
to
say
that
this
application
was
up
for
refusal
because
of
the
fence
and
I
on
reflection.
Look
back
at
the
what
we
did
at
the
committee
and
was
making
the
point.
B
There
were
other
issues
that
this
committee
rejected,
that
application
on
and
so
I
posed
the
question:
what
how
did
this
application
differ
from
the
previous
one,
and
that
was
one
line
in
it,
as
opposed
to
the
whole
Communications
I
just
wanted
to
point
out.
B
This
may
look
as
if
I
was
predetermined
against
the
application,
as
opposed
to
the
fact
I
was
just
seeking
clarification.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you
chair.
This
is
an
application
for
the
installation
of
a
battery
storage
facility
and
ancillary
development
on
land
east
of
Ash
Park,
isn't
it
Ash
Park
Business
Park,
the
site
areas,
2.9
hectares
and
the
proposal
is
for
the
installation
of
the
57
megawatt
battery
storage
facility.
If
I
can
draw
your
attention
to
the
update
paper
members,
a
viewed
the
site
last
Friday
and
notes
from
the
viewing
panel
on
the
update,
there
were
some
comments
raised
at
the
view
in
with
regards
to
noise.
C
So
there's
some
additional
information
and
clarification
in
terms
of
noise
on
the
site.
Noise
impact
assessment
was
submitted
and
that's
been
fully
considered
by
an
environmental
health
officer
and
they've
raised
no
objection
subject
to
a
condition
to
ensure
that
the
mitigation
within
that
report
is
followed
through.
I'd
also,
then,
draw
your
attention
on
the
update
paper
last
week.
There
was
an
appeal
decision
on
another
battery
storage
facility
that
mentions
Lane
and
that
was
allowed
on
appeals.
C
The
applicant
has
also
made
some
comments
in
terms
of
the
recent
appeal
decision
and
the
need
for
another
facility
in
the
area,
and
then
we've
also
got
some
further
information
with
regards
to
fire
risk.
A
fire
risk
management
plan
was
submitted
and
that's
been
considered
by
Hampshire
fire
and
rescue
in
there
they've
raised
no
objection
to
it,
and
then
they
try
to
store
your
attention
as
well.
So
there's
some
minor
changes
to
the
conditions
and
those
are
listed
at
the
end
of
the
update
report
for
this
application.
A
A
D
Evening,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
this
evening
and
for
the
officers
presentation
setting
out
the
advantages
of
the
scheme
and
in
reaching
the
recommendation
for
approval.
D
Both
the
conservative
government
and
National
Grid
recognize
that
battery
storage
is
critical
to
achieving
a
net
zero
electricity
system.
Batteries
are
able
to
store
excess
electricity
generated
by
renewable
energy
facilities
when
demand
is
low
and
release
that
energy
to
the
Grid
at
periods
of
high
demand.
D
Without
these
Services
there
will
be
blackouts
in
electricity
Supply
in
the
future.
As
of
2021,
there
was
1.6
gigawatts
of
battery
storage
operational
in
the
UK,
but
National
Grid
forecasts.
It
will
require
20
gigawatts
by
2030
in
order
to
support
the
energy
transition
to
Renewables
and
keep
the
lights
on.
D
This
is
why
battery
storage
facilities
are
receiving
such
strong
policy
support
at
National
policy
level.
The
Bramley
substation
is
a
strategically
important
part
of
the
National
Grid
transmission
Network
that
has
the
size
and
type
of
capacity
required
to
accommodate
grid
scale.
Energy
storage
projects,
National
Grid
itself,
has
identified
brandly
as
a
substation
of
key
importance
and
an
area
which,
which
requires
grid
stability
support.
It
is
also
the
only
unconstrained
grid,
Supply
points
in
Basingstoke
and
D.
D
The
planning
inspector
for
the
nearby
mentions
Lane
sites,
which
has
recently
been
allowed,
as
appeal
noted,
as
much
giving
substantial
weight
to
locational
factors
that
influence
the
sighting
of
battery
storage
facilities,
allowing
the
mentions
Lane
development
is
not
in
any
way
diminish.
The
overwhelming
need
for
this
development
as
well.
Bramley
substation
is
one
of
the
few
places
regionally
that
has
capacity
for
further
energy
storage
connections,
and
this
capacity
must
be
utilized
as
of
September
2022,
Basingstoke
and
Dean
had
one
megawatt
of
operational
storage.
D
The
recently
approved,
mentions
Lane
scheme
will
add
100
megawatts
of
capacity,
while
the
proposed
development
here
would
add
an
additional
57
megawatts
of
capacity
taking
together.
These
schemes
would
provide
just
0.8
percent
of
the
required
20
gigawatts
of
storage.
So
there
is
no
question
that
both
schemes
are
required.
D
On
balance,
substantial
weight
should
be
given
to
the
need
for
storage
development
in
the
context
of
NetZero
zero
and
the
applicant
in
your
officers.
Consider
that
this
clearly
outweighs
the
harm.
The
proposed
development
is
essential.
Infrastructure
necessary
for
keeping
the
lights
on
and
I
would
urge
you
to
support
your
officer's
recommendation
and
approve
the
application
without
delay.
F
Thank
you
chair,
good
evening,
a
couple
of
things.
If
I
may,
in
your
opening
comments,
you
said
this
will
reduce
consumer
bills.
Could
you
explain
how
please.
G
Good
evening,
proliferation
of
Renewables
onto
the
grid
is
essential
not
only
for
climate
change
targets,
but
also
to
support
the
reduction
in
energy
costs
to
Consumers.
The
way
that
is
done
is
through
the
lowering
of
the
levelized
cost
of
energy
in
the
National
Energy
Mix
Renewables
are
proven
to
generate
their
electricity
at
a
lower
level
than
at
a
lower
cost
to
Consumers
than
fossil
fuels.
G
The
current
high
prices
that
are
seen
in
the
electricity
Market
are
purely
the
result
of
gas
setting
marginal
price
in
the
electricity
Market
so
setting
the
wholesale
cost
of
electricity
batteries
are
critical
in
supporting
new
renewable
energy
coming
onto
the
grid.
The
intermittent
nature
of
renewable
energy
means
that
energy
must
be
stored
and
provided
to
customers
when
they
require
it.
Not
when
it's
generated
and
that's
exactly
what
this
battery
storage
facility
is
designed
to
do,
store
energy
provide
it
to
Consumers
when
it's
needed.
G
In
addition
to
that,
this
battery
storage
facility
would
also
provide
crucial
balancing
services
to
the
National
Grid.
Without
those
balancing
Services,
we
do
risk
and
blackout
events
occurring
on
the
grid,
where
National
Grid
cannot
balance
the
demand
and
supply
and
cannot
maintain
the
frequency
on
the
grid.
G
D
You
is
it
okay,
if
I
decide
to
point
to
that
as
well.
Okay,
it
also
comes
down
to
something
called
curtailment,
which
is
when
the
supply
of
electricity
from
renewable
energy,
such
as
wind
or
solar,
is
greater
than
the
demand
for
that
electricity
from
consumers.
So,
at
the
moment,
the
National
Grid
pays
the
producers
of
this
energy
to
switch
off
their
systems
rather
than
risk
overloading
and
tripping
the
network,
and
this
electricity
is
wasted.
H
Thank
you
chair
approximately
how
many
homes,
or
is
this
facility
intended
to
say
if
you
mentioned
it's
going
to
be
putting
energy
back
into
the
National
Grid,
but
approximately
how
many
homes
will
this
serve.
D
As
the
facility
isn't
a
generator,
it's
very
difficult
to
quantify
that
because
it
isn't
producing
electricity
in
that
way,
it's
storing
it
and
releasing
it
back
and
that
responds
to
demand
at
times,
as
required
by
the
National
Grid,
to
provide
that
energy
back
and
so
on.
Sundays,
like
it's
a
57
megawatt
facility,
it
may
provide
you
know
a
25
50
of
that
energy
back
to
the
grid
as
required
on
other
days.
D
It
might
give
more
back
it's
it's
difficult
to
put
a
precise
number
on
on
homes,
in
the
same
same
way
that
you
can
for
say,
solar
facilities
or
wind
facilities.
F
You
Jay.
My
second
point:
was
you
then,
towards
the
end
of
your
statement,
you
suggested
this
will
help
the
borough
achieve
Net
Zero
targets.
Could
you
give
us
some
sort
of
explanation
on
how
you
see
that
would
help
us?
Please.
D
It's
it's
about
the
transition
to
a
zero
carbon
energy
Network
and
ensuring
that
residents
in
the
area
have
access
to
to
electricity
in
the
future
and
then
that
electricity
is,
is
keeping
the
lights
on
and
and
as
we
move
to
provide
those
residents
with
with
renewable
energy,
which
will
be
required
in
wind
and
solar
and
and
other
forms
of
renewable
energy.
D
I
Thank
you
chair.
What
is
the
life
of
these
batteries?
We
all
stick
batteries
in
in
torches
and
everything
else,
and
we
have
no
idea
how
they
lost
I.
I
just
want
to
know.
Is
this
facility
able
to
be
upgraded
as
as
storage
improves,
because,
obviously
things
have
moved
on
in
the
last
10
15
20
years.
G
Yeah,
thank
you
for
the
question
and
that's
absolutely
the
case
that
this
facility
is
capable
of
being
upgraded
in
the
future
as
technology
moves
forward.
So
the
initial
installation
of
batteries
are
warranted
by
the
manufacturer
to
last
for
10
years.
G
We
actually
expect
that
the
batteries
will
last
between
10
and
15
years
and
in
that
time
frame
the
batteries
will
be
recommissioned
recycled
and
new
batteries
were
installed.
If
there
is
an
improvement
in
technology.
In
that
intervening
period
Then,
the
scheme
will
take
advantage
of
that
new
Battery
Technology,
improving
efficiency,
hopefully
improving
support
to
the
grid
and
the
scheme
itself
has
a
has
a
lease
over
the
land
for
a
40-year
term.
So
that
would
be
the
longest
that
the
scheme
would
be
in
in
play.
A
F
Thank
you
chair
in
our
update
paper.
In
fact,
the
very
last
paragraph
on
can't
tell
you
a
page
sorry.
Anyway.
F
It
suggests
that
if
the
base
of
the
hard
standing
for
the
containers
would
in
the
likelihood
be
required
to
be
not
the
compact,
the
loose
gravel
that
it
is
now
and
better
for
drainage,
surface
Etc,
what
is
a
section
96a
application?
Is
it
something
we
ask
the
applicant
to
do
or
the
applicant
says
it
would
like
to
do
it?
Okay,.
C
It's
just
a
minor
application
for
amendments
that
would
come
in
so
if
they
choose
to
change
those
bits
that
potentially,
if
there's
a
change
in
the
regulations,
then
they
can
come
in
with
a
minor
Amendment
application.
So
it
comes
to
us
it's
something.
It's
just
a
procedural
thing.
That's
all
that
they
would
do
that's
how
they
would
change
it.
F
J
K
Thank
you,
chair,
I'd,
like
to
ask
officers
what
the
next
stage
after
after
this
this
meeting
is
I've
already
outlined
a
few
issues
with
containment
in
case
of
fire
and
emergency
services
having
to
deal
with
that
fire
liquid
toxic
materials
being
mixed
going
into
the
ground.
K
I,
don't
see
that
being
addressed
and
I
think
bringing
the
fabricating
I'm
a
bit
disappointed
that
they've
not
addressed
it
to
be
honest,
but
but
that
is
a
potential
issue,
especially
if
you've
got
watercourses
there
that's
going
to
be
toxic
materials
going
into
the
ground,
so
I'd
just
like
to
know
how
that's
been
dealt
with
after
this
stage.
C
Building
regulations
that
they
would
have
to
meet,
there's
also
other
fire
and
safety
standards
that
have
to
meet,
and
potentially
the
change
in
the
legislation
that
could
be
going
through.
That
equally
will
pick
up
elements
like
that
as
well,
but
it's
something
that
sits
outside
the
planning
system.
So
from
our
point
of
view,
if
it's
approved
tonight,
then
the
decision
goes
out
and
then
purely
from
a
planning
point
of
view.
They
would
then
be
going
through
dealing
with
the
pre-commence
conditions
and
submitting
information
that
way.
L
I
think
the
the
way
that
we've
approached
these
applications
since
the
last
version
that
came
forward,
which
is
the
email
called
as
one
in
Old
Beijing
for
all
these
types
of
applications.
Now
we
we
seek
the
applicants
to
submit
a
fire,
the
safety
plan
as
part
of
the
application
which
has
been
done
on
this
occasion
and
then
obviously
increase
the
consultation
with
family
fire
and
rescue
I.
Appreciate
that
beyond
that,
there
might
be
some
ongoing
concerns
in
council's
Minds.
L
The
only
thing
I
could
suggest
would
be
an
informative
note
just
to
effectively
record
that
you
know,
if
that's
the
view
of
the
committee.
Obviously
the
informative
note
to
record
yeah
the
committee's
encouragement
for
that.
Continuing
dialogue
with
Hampshire
fire
and
rescue
throughout
the
entire
process,
which
is
to
say,
would
be
covered
through
other
legislation
anyway,
but
it's
something
that
could
be
recorded
through
that
through
that
informative
note.
M
Thank
you
very
much
chair
just
very
quickly
officers.
I've
read
the
update
okay
before
this
meeting
started,
but
I
must
have
missed
something
because
the
noise
levels
aren't
quite
clear.
Okay,
can
you
please
just
beyond
all
Reasonable
Doubt,
okay
clarify
exactly
what
the
noise
levels
are
going
to
be
for
for
this
establishment.
Thank
you
right.
C
I
mean
basically
within
the
battery
storage
facility.
You've
got
various
bits
machinery
and
they
all
have
different
noise
levels,
but
the
as
it
says
in
here
the
highest
level
that
you
that
would
potentially
happen.
The
peak
one
would
be
78
decibels,
but
there's
other
equipment
there,
which
has
a
lot
lower
noise
level.
There's
there
would
be
a
three
meter,
acoustic
fence
that
would
go
around
the
site
and
that's
part
of
the
mitigation
measures.
C
So
the
environmental
health
have
considered
all
of
the
various
noises
generated
by
the
Machinery,
all
the
different
bits
of
machinery
and
then
also
the
closest
receptors.
So
bearing
in
mind
the
business
park
is
a
commercial
entity
so
that
wouldn't
come
into
it.
So
you're,
looking
at
the
nearest
residential
ones
and
with
the
mitigation
that
they're
proposing,
then
it
will
bring
the
levels
down
to
an
acceptable
background.
Noise
and
the
environmental
health
are
quite
happy
with
the
proposals
that
they've
got
on
there.
C
F
I
think
Joe's
going
back
to
cancer
gaskell's
Point.
Looking
at
the
letter
that
is
in
our
on
our
web,
the
response
from
the
fire
brigade.
It
says
in
one
of
the
paragraphs
that
I'll
praise
it.
F
Basically,
if
they
consider
the
risk
of
harm
to
the
local
water
environment
from
a
contaminated
fire,
water,
runoff
they'll,
just
let
the
thing
burn
and
it
says
it
is
strongly
recommended
that
all
reasonable
measures
to
be
taken
to
lower
the
risk
of
contamination
to
the
local
water
environment
and
enable
an
effective
firefighting
response
and
in
the
planning
statement
from
the
applicant,
it
actually
says
in
section
3.2.10
that
the
compound
would
be
surfaced
with
uncompacted
stone.
F
Now
those
two
things
together,
I
would
have
hoped
that
we
might
have
picked
this
up
and
actually
questioned
the
applicant
about
the
potential
conflict
between
what
the
fire
we're
going
to
saying
and
what
they're
actually
offering.
So
the
members
tonight
would
have
seen
that.
Actually,
that
would
be
a
problem.
That's
been
already
eradicated.
Okay,.
I
Thank
you,
chair
I
mean
there
is
no
doubt
that
this
new
sighting
of
a
battery
storage
meets
everybody's
approval,
but
it
is,
in
my
view,
a
scrappy
worthless
piece
of
ground
in
terms
of
Agriculture.
You
wouldn't
be
growing
wheat
or
barley
in
it.
It
is
certainly
a
box,
a
a
business
park.
I
It
meets
the
standards
and
I
think
many
of
our
residents.
Wouldn't
thank
us
if
we
didn't
pass
this
and
they
sat
in
the
dark
for
periods
of
time,
because
we
hadn't
made
full
use
of
the
opportunities
to
have
battery
storage
within
this
Borough.
It
isn't
perfect
and
I.
I
do
hope
that
as
legislation
changes
and
our
own
MP
is
trying
to
improve
the
fire
regulations
that
surround
it
and
the
facility
can
be
upgraded
and
will
be
upgraded
as
time
goes
by
my
view
of
where
people
will
be
impact.
I
A
A
N
Thank
you
chairman,
so
this
is
a
full
planning
application
at
land
to
the
rear
of
2021
Hill
Road
in
Oakley
for
the
erection
of
a
two-bedroom
detached
dwelling,
the
dwelling
would
be
served
by
an
existing
access
which
is
used
by
the
Elms
to
the
East
and
it's
a
pedestrian
and
cycle
path
for
the
beech
tree
coast
development.
Since
the
agenda,
the
parish
council
have
reinforced
their
comments
back
in
2019
relating
to
over
development
impact
on
neighbors
and
around
the
access
due
to
the
visibility
splays
and
that
it's
used
by
pedestrians
and
cyclists.
N
A
O
Thank
you
chair
good
evening
members.
My
name
is
Alex
roley
and
I'm
speaking
today
as
a
resident
from
the
neighboring
points,
medal
development
or
Beach
Street,
close
I've,
submitted
a
detailed
response
regarding
this
application.
With
my
concerns
tonight,
I'd
like
to
respond
to
the
officer's
report
and
highlight
some
points
for
you
during
your
debate
from
page
86,
I'd
like
to
highlight
counselor
Taylor's
reasons
for
bringing
these
applications
to
DCC
as
I
share.
O
From
page
88
bully
point
four
states:
it's
an
agreed
pedestrian
route.
It
is
also
a
cycle
and
emergency
access
route
as
well,
and
how
his
lack
of
objection
is
a
concern
giving
two
previous
applications
on
the
site.
So
I
asked
why
the
change,
also
from
Paid
88
character
of
the
area,
is
fundamentally
altered.
What
does
this
statement
mean
in
planning
terms?
If
anything
has
Council
of
tailor
identified
and
referral
to
DCC?
O
O
This
goes
into
more
detail
about
the
fundamental
alterations
to
the
character
the
area
mentioned.
Previously,
it
stated
there
is
a
dense
Urban
Development
to
the
West.
Having
lived
in
urban
developments.
I
strongly
disagree
with
this
assessment
and
believe,
anyway,
attributes
this
should
be
removed.
The
development
is
not
a
dense.
Urban
nature,
particularly
in
the
northern
area
and
I,
believe,
a
planning
inspector
would
also
agree
with
this,
as
this
was
considered
due
to
parts
of
the
development
being
in
the
Conservation
Area
program.
96.
O
The
appeal
decision
for
the
application
States,
the
northern
field,
which
is
closer
to
the
historic
core
of
the
village,
would
be
retained
primarily
as
open
space.
The
layout
of
the
houses
would
have
spacious
and
informal
character
with
a
variety
of
building
types.
So
I
asked
how
is
that
a
dense,
Urban
nature
from
page
93,
paragraph
2,
visibility
onto
Barn
Lane
is
a
concern
for
residents
in
the
area
and
I
believe
the
track
was
deemed
unsuitable
for
permanent
vehicle
access.
O
As
part
of
the
assessment
supports
Meadow
a
plan
for
the
track
is
provided
on
page
106
of
your
reports.
Progress
3
states
that
the
previous
development
was
refused
for
increased
use
of
the
track
and
these
refusals
predate
the
local
plan
and
the
supplementary
guidance
which
now
should
be
considered.
The
report
does
not
go
up,
not
sorry.
The
report
does
not
provide
information
as
to
what
new
additional
guidance
now
suggests.
The
track
with
appropriate
blue
signage
for
a
pedestrian
cycle
track
is
now
suitable
for
increased
permanent
vehicle
use.
You
have
one
minute
remaining.
Thank
you
yeah.
O
O
O
It
should
not
be
used
to
parking
Vehicles,
as
the
report
says,
as
they
should
be
on
the
side
of
the
track
to
keep
the
track
clear
for
emergency
vehicles.
The
fact
vehicles
have
been
parked.
There
was
actually
prevented
the
developers
completing
the
work
in
breach
of
the
s106
agreement,
to
which
the
applicant
I
believe
was
a
party.
If
the
committee
is
managed
to
prove
this
in
your
application,
these
issues
should
be
addressed
prior
to
commencement
development
and
The
Pedestrian
cycle
route,
completed
and
maintained
during
construction,
with
an
appropriate
construction
management
strategy
supplied
first
page
106.
O
The
retained
access
rights
mentioned
on
the
planet
of
20
and
28,
not
20
and
21,
as
in
the
report,
and
these
two
properties
are
on
Hill
Road.
Should
this
application
be
approved,
it'll
be
actually
removing
access
right
for
those
properties.
Since
a
new
volume,
a
new
dwelling
will
be
there
instead.
Thank
you.
A
You
and
if
we
could
have
Mr
kobold,
please.
A
P
Thank
you
chairman.
Let's
start
with
talking
you
through
this
plan,
we
got
in
front
of
us
actually
I
think
that's
quite
a
quite
an
important
consideration.
This
is
the
access
which
we've
just
heard
from
the
the
local
residents.
It's
a
long
established
access
it
used
to
it
used
to
provide
access
to
two
properties.
One
of
those
properties
has
now
been
demolished
assumed
into
into
the
big
development
for
85
houses
to
the
West.
P
So
by
creating
a
second
dwelling
off
it,
it's
not
actually
intensifying
the
use
or
the
historic
use,
which
has
already
had
two
always
had
two
dwellings
off
it.
Historically,
so
there's
no
intensification
there.
So,
let's
get
that
one
that
one
clear
and
then
let's,
let's
talk
about
the
the
requirements
under
this
planning
application,
this
2014
planning
application
for
the
85
houses.
Yeah
agreed
it
was.
It
was
an
unsuitable
access
for
85
houses,
that's
very
different
and
a
different
scale
of
development.
To
what
we're
talking
about
here.
P
They
deliberately
kept
it
open
for
vehicles
for
the
existing
property
which
the
councilors
saw
on
site
the
other
day
and
they
deliberately
kept
vehicle
access
right
up
to
where
you
can
see
I'm
trying
to
describe
it
where
those
the
dark
gray
lines
finish,
and
they
said
that's
where
that's
where
the
the
vehicle
access
stops,
so,
in
other
words
to
the
west
of
the
application
site.
So
the
access
goes
all
the
way
up
and
Beyond
the
front
of
the
application
site
with
full
vehicle
rights
over
it.
P
Hopefully
that
clarifies
that
I'll
just
talk
more
generally
about
the
character
of
the
area,
which
is
the
the
second
issue
we've
heard,
I
was
going
to
say:
I've
got
I've
got
an
application
which
doesn't
need
to
mention
the
five-year
land
Supply,
but
I
think
I'm
going
to
have
to
because
of
the
the
reason
why
the
the
85
to
the
West
were
approved
and
that's
the
benefit
of
this
application
having
taken
so
long
in
the
system.
P
While
nitrate
mitigation
has
been
sorted,
that
development
is
now
there
when
it
wasn't
four
years
ago,
when
it
was
submitted,
it's
the
development
which
fundamentally
changes
the
character
of
the
area.
It
it
puts
85
houses
onto
what
was
a
green
field.
I,
remember
it
well,
so
the
character
of
the
area
has
changed.
It
subsumes
the
application
site
into
the
urban
area
and
that
changes
the
context
of
the
of
the
consideration
for
the
proposed
development.
P
I,
don't
think
the
dwelling
is
out
of
character
because
it's
very
similar
and
it's
been
designed
to
reflect
the
house
toodles
to
WAND
or
to
the
to
the
east,
to
the
right
on
that
plan.
That
is
the
the
design
basis
for
the
application.
P
It's
not
squeezed
in
any
more
than
that
is
it's
full
of
one
minute
from
the
area,
because
that
is
part
of
the
character
of
the
area
on
the
neighboring
plot,
so
I
think
after
four
years
in
the
system,
everything
has
has
come
out
in
favor
and
it
will
be
good
to
good
to
finally
get
a
planning
permission.
Thank
you.
A
As
councilor
Gaskell
has
just
kindly
reminded
me,
councilor
Taylor
asked
me
to
read
this
out:
she's
I'm
a
full
agreement
with
the
comments
made
by
the
parish
council.
This
proposal
would
lead
to
a
cramped
and
incongruous
development
and
shall
be
refused
for
the
same
reasons
as
the
previous
application
on
the
same
site.
A
Those
reasons
were
cramped
development,
harmful
to
the
character
of
the
area,
inadequate
visibility,
slays,
causing
undue
interference
with
the
safety
of
the
highway
users.
Note
there
are
now
many
more
Highway
users
of
the
highway
with
a
large
development
now
built.
In
addition,
the
driveway
from
Barn
Lane
is
a
cycle
pedestrian
access
to
the
poets,
Meadow
development
having
been
deemed
unsuitable
as
a
vehicular
access.
A
A
So
obviously
we
can't
question
cancel
it
either
on
that.
So
questions
to
officers,
no
debate.
M
Thank
you,
chair
I,
have
to
say
that
I
I
really
struggled
with
this
one,
because
I
I
think
it
is
cramped.
I
I
think
it.
It
is
squeezing
a
house
onto
onto
a
site
However.
The
fact
that
Beech
trees
estate
is
has
been
built
and
it's
something
that
when
I
I
was
first
elected
as
a
as
a
counselor,
okay,
I
I
did
campaign
against
and
unfortunately
we
lost
the
the
final
Challenge
on
on
beach
trees
and
but
it
has
fundamentally
changed
the
the
whole
area
there.
M
Okay
I
think
it's
changed
it
for
the
worst:
okay,
but
I'm,
not
a
professional
planner.
M
H
Thank
You
Cher
yeah,
it's
difficult.
This
one
I
mean
the
one
of
the
key
paragraphs
there
on
page
91
borderline
over
development.
Unfortunately,
these
are
the
things
that
appeals
are
made
of
and
I
can't
see
any
policies
that
would
stand
up
to
scrutiny
by
the
inspector,
so
I'll
be
reluctantly
seconding.
This.
A
N
A
Item
three
seven
St
John's
piece,
Oakley
bethan
again.
N
Thank
you
chairman.
This
is
a
full
planning
application
at
land
to
the
rear
of
seven
St
John's
piece
in
Oakley
for
the
erection
of
a
two-bed
detached
Bungalow.
The
new
dwelling
will
be
accessed
through
creating
a
sideway
to
the
drive
of
creating
a
driveway
to
the
side
of
number.
Seven
by
removing
the
existing
garage
parking
for
the
existing
dwelling
would
then
be
provided
at
the
rear
of
its
property.
N
A
Q
Good
evening
my
name
is
Alan
fraud,
I'm,
the
applicant
and
owner
of
service
and
John's
piece
and
I
just
want
to
really
try
and
give
you
a
bit
of
background
history
and
sort
of
motivation.
Why
we
we
put
this
application
in.
Q
Q
Q
We
then
noticed
a
lot
of
houses
within
Oakley,
starting
to
develop
their
Gardens,
either
to
the
side
or
to
the
back,
notably
17,
Sandpoint
Lane,
which
is
just
over
Hill
road
from
us.
We
approached
the
same
Architects
and
decides
to
submit
an
application.
Q
Q
We
were
delighted
with
the
design
that
Martin
came
up
with
I,
believe
we've
submitted
a
design
that
improves
and
enhances
the
street.
This
is
compounded
by
the
amount
of
objections
we've
had
and
we've
also
received
support
from
the
parish
council
and
War
councilor
die
Taylor,
so
I
asked
the
committee
please
to
approve
this
application.
R
Yes,
just
to
reassure
what
Alan
said
as
the
site
lies
within
assessment
boundary,
the
principle
of
development
is
accepted
and
we
believe
the
proposal
Accords
with
local
National
policy.
Local
Ward
member,
has
brought
the
application
before
you
as
they
can
see
the
potential
for
development
and
is
supportive
of
the
proposal
to
build
a
bungalow
stating
in
their
correspondence
that
there's
a
identified
need
for
such
properties
in
Oakley.
R
R
There
have
been
no
objections
for
the
highway,
Authority
landscape
officer,
tree
officer,
ecology,
Natural
England
or
the
parish
council.
In
our
opinion,
the
site
is
suitable
for
development,
as
the
members
will
have
encountered
on
the
visit
last
week,
even
in
an
overgrown
state
with
the
existing
outbuilding
still
occupying
much
of
the
site.
Plot
is
a
considerable
size,
landslopes
down
from
garage
to
the
rear
and
is
well
screened
by
existing
mature
trees
and
hedgerows
proposals
to
erect
modus
Bungalow
in
the
rear
garden
access
by
extending
the
driveway.
R
This
form
of
background
development
is
not
uncommon
and
there
are
numerous
examples
of
similar
developments
with
our
Borough.
The
previous
application
put
before
you
was
recommended
for
approval
should
be
considered
that
that's
just
been
completed
at
17
same
form,
Lane.
You.
R
The
two
unit
scheme,
approved
last
month
by
the
committee
and
power
down
all
similar
schemes
we
do
not
agree
there-
will
be
an
adverse
impact
on
the
character
of
the
area.
The
Bungalow
will
sit
approximately
one
meter
below
the
neighboring
properties
due
to
the
low
level
of
the
site
and
screened
by
the
established
hetero
mature
trees,
making
the
development
virtually
hidden.
This
view
is
supported
in
the
report
by
the
officer
which
states
it
is
noted
that
the
bungalow
design
and
lowered
ground
levels
would
have
a
lesser
impact
when
viewed
from
the
street
scene.
R
As
mentioned
by
the
applicant.
The
building
is
to
be
low
energy,
High
insulation
using
an
air
source
heat
pump,
photovoltaics,
rainwater,
harvesting,
mechanical
heat
recovery.
The
building
is
to
be
of
a
timber
frame
using
Timber
cladding
from
a
stable
source.
Plot
of
land
offers
a
applicant
a
unique
opportunity
to
build
his
family.
A
modest
home
in
a
sustainable
location.
The
Proposal
makes
an
efficient
use
of
land
within
settlement,
meets
all
local
National
policies.
H
A
Any
more
questions,
no
thank
you.
Once
again,
we
have
a
mission
from
councilor
Taylor
and
says.
I
would
like
to
express
my
support
for
this
application
for
the
following
reasons:
the
site
is
not
just
the
end
of
a
back
Garden,
as
are
so
many
back
land
developments.
This
is
an
extra
piece
of
land
attached
to
the
rear,
Garden
of
seven
St
John's
piece,
creating
a
discrete
area
for
the
development,
but
retaining
a
good
sized
Garden
for
the
main
house.
A
A
Adjacent
properties
will
be
shielded
by
trees
and
vegetation
and
in
addition,
The
Proposal
of
dwelling
is
of
low
height
and
will
not
cause
any
overlooking.
There
will
be
no
adverse
effect
on
the
street
scene
from
either
St
John's
piece
or
Hill
Road,
and
little
impact
on
the
landscape,
character
or
visual
immunity.
As
confirmed
by
the
landscape
team,
there
is
an
existing
sizable
structure
on
the
land.
Already
there
is
a
clear
and
expressed
need
for
Bungalow
accommodation
in
Oakley.
A
A
So
questions
to
officers,
councilor
Frost,
followed
by
councilor
Freeman,
followed
by
councilman
McCormack.
M
Thank
you,
chair
I'd,
just
like
to
look
at
the
the
the
height
of
the
development,
please
against
the
against
the
the
neighboring
development.
Could
officers,
please
just
talk.
It
talk
it
through,
because
it
looks
on
site
section
two
that
it's
a
lot
lower:
okay,
but
I'd
like
to
just
try
and
understand
exactly
how
much
lower.
N
So
the
land
of
dip
and
it's
the
height
of
the
dwelling-
will
be
4.4
meters
in
height.
So
we
have
noted
in
the
character
of
the
area
area,
section
page
that
it
will
have
limited
views
through
the
access.
But
the
presence
of
this
is
on
114
page
114,
but
it
will
have
the
presence
that
there
is
development
behind
which
obviously
Along
on
said
John's
piece.
N
There
isn't
any
background
development
so
and
they'll
be
the
presence
of
the
driveway,
so
it
won't
be
massively
visible,
but
part
of
the
reform
will
be.
J
N
You
can
see
where
the
ridge
height
is
of
the
existing
dwelling
in
black
and
white
outlined
and
the
dwelling,
so
it's
it's,
it
will
sit
about
there.
You
can
see
okay.
S
There's
an
awkward
one,
I,
don't
actually
disagree.
I
don't
actually
agree
with
the
reasons
for
a
refusal,
because
I
don't
think
it
would
be
in
Congress
I
think
it
would
be
fine.
My
issues
is
with
the
access,
so
if
I
still
think
it
should
be
refused,
but
not
for
the
reasons
listed
in
the
report,
how
does
how
do
we
go
about
that.
L
Freeman
so
effective
is
considering
the
item
committee
can
either
accept
the
recommendation
or
or
overturn
it
in
the
event
of
an
approval,
or
if
you
disagree
with
the
reason
for
a
fusible
or
emotionally
for
a
different
reason.
Then
that's
before
you
as
well
in
terms
of
making
that
that
decision.
H
Thank
you,
I
was
just
wondering
if
we
could
see
on
the
map
where
1774
Lane
was
in
relation
to.
N
The
I
I,
it's
not
it's,
it's
it's
a
couple
of
Roads
along,
but
there
is
a
different
character.
It's
more!
It's
it's
more
on
the
rural
edge
of
the
village
rather
than
in
the
St
John's
Peace
area,
which
is
more
Central.
N
It's
on
the
edge
it's
down
a
rural
Lane,
so
it's
quite
characterfully
different
to
this
site.
T
N
A
N
S
As
it
said
before,
I
I
don't
think
it.
It
would
be
a
problem.
My
issue
is
the
access
because
I
don't
think
that's
a
suitable
access,
especially
where
we
saw
the
back
door.
That
would
lead
straight
on
to
where
the
cars
are
coming
down.
I,
don't
think
it's
safe.
So
this
is
my
issue.
I've
got
no
issues
with
the
actual
building
itself,
because
I
think
it's
fine,
the
design
is
fine.
I,
don't
think
it's
going
to
intrude
on
anybody
and
we
have
seen
this
sort
of
development
in
in
the
area
before.
S
I
Thank
you,
chair,
I,
mean
I,
think
the
principle
as
Council
Freeman
has
just
indicated
of
Bungalows
on
this
site.
Yes,
I
I
couldn't
I,
couldn't
disagree
with
councilor,
Taylor
and
I
think
there
is
a
need
for
for
Bungalow
accommodation
within
the
the
borough.
My
issues
are
about
safety,
I
think,
frankly,
it
is
not
safe.
I
There
is
not
a
definable
way
that
you
could
walk
up
between
the
the
existing
house
and
the
road
with
the
car
coming
down,
and
it
would
mean
one
has
priority
over
all
the
pedestrian
and
I
think
that's
unsafe
and
and
fundamentally
we
should
not
be
approving
things
that
are
unsafe
in
the
view
of
of
this
committee
and
I
I
didn't
feel
comfortable
and
therefore
I
would
be
happy
to
move
the
recommendation
as
it
sits.
A
Thank
you.
It's
been
moved
as
per
the
officer
recommendation
Mike.
Would
you
like
to
come
in
foreign.
L
A
Thank
you.
I've
got
counselor
McCormack,
followed
by
councilor
Frost
for
the
by
counselor
Castle.
H
Thank
you,
chair
well,
I
think
Kevin
Council
Diane
Taylor's
hit
the
nail
on
the
head.
Actually
I
do
I
do
have
some
questions
in
the
back
of
my
mind
about
access,
but
pulling
forward
reasons
for
the
refusal
Road
Safety
we've
been
here
before
with
other
applications.
Unless
we've
got
something
that's
actually
held
out
by
the
highways
people,
we
have
limited
chance
of
success
in
moving
reviews
and
those
grounds
not
being
overturned
at
peel,
but
I'm
quite
happy
in
the
event
that
we
don't
have.
M
Thank
you,
chair
I,
have
to
say
that
having
been
based
at
the
world
counter
for
for
Oakley
for
a
long
time
before
Kingsley,
there
was
a
there's
a
lot
of
development
that
is
like
this
through.
You
know
not
just
Sanford
Lane,
but
you
know
throughout
the
whole
village.
Okay,
I
I,
like
the
fact
that
it's
the
the
roof
is
the
ridge
line
is
lower
than
the
surrounding
area
Okay.
M
So,
therefore,
there's
not
going
to
be
any
under
your
loss
of
privacy
for
any
of
the
neighbors
and
should
the
the
motion
that's
currently
on
the
table.
Fail.
I
I
will
be
happy
to
Second
councilman
cormax
promotion.
K
K
So
so
that's
a
garage
with
a
white
door
behind
the
car
is
going
to
come
down.
So
the
access
is
where
the
car
is
and
the
path
to
the
side
as
well
that's
been
returned,
but
still
with
the
car.
You
can
see
that
a
pedestrian
could
walk
past
the
car
could
officers.
Please
explain
the
the
situation
that.
N
Garage
will
be
removed
and
the
wall
that
you
see
to
the
side
of
the
car
will
that's,
that's
the
closest
Pinch
Point
that
garage
will
be
removed
and
I
think
there's
a
bit
underneath
that
retain
it
will
be
retained
as
well,
and
then
it
will
jump
back
Alberts.
So
that's
the
closest
point
of
the
access.
K
N
Front
door
is,
as
you
see
it
there,
they
do
have
rare
app.
They
do
have
access
from
the
garage
to
the
property
from
memory
when
I
went
there
and
they've
got
rear
patio
doors
as
well.
K
Okay
I
mean
as
discussion
point
then
I
I
see
that
the
front
door
isn't
intruded
onto
the
onto
the
axis
there.
The
rear
door
will
be
enclosed
and
maybe
a
gate
coming
onto
it.
But
it's
not
going
to
be
straight
out
of
the
house
onto
the
onto
the
onto
the
access
path,
so
I'm
struggling
to
see
why
access
would
be
an
issue
here
because,
like.
K
Really,
as
we
were
saying
before,
there's
lots
of
properties
like
this.
You
know:
I
live
in
a
property
150
years
old,
with
more
restricted
access
than
that.
So
thank.
U
Thank
you
chair.
In
weighing
up
the
argument.
That's
been
put
on
both
sides
of
this
from
what
I've
heard
so
far
say.
The
current
document
wanted
to
remove
the
garage
and
have
access
on
the
property
to
the
back
of
the
property,
there's
nothing
to
stop
them
doing
that
they
can
take
the
garage
down
Drive
way
further
into
the
property
and
park
around
the
back.
U
That
would
still
create
a
conflict
with
the
back
door
and
there
are
lots
of
properties
that
I
know
of
with
the
back
door
or
a
front
door
for
that
matter
actually
comes
right
out
onto
either
a
driveway,
a
road
or
an
access.
The
question
of
safety
becomes
one
with.
Can
you
make
the
argument?
Stick
if
you
got
as
far
as
an
appeal
in
front
of
an
inspector
and
there's
no
highways
or
safety
issue
at
the
moment
that's
presented
despite
the
concern,
that's
genuinely
been
raised
and
quite
legitimately
been
raised,
that
I
think
would
hold
water.
U
U
The
balancing
argument
to
that
is
this
would
be
the
very
first
one
in
this
immediate
area
that
could
well
set
the
ball
rolling
for
all
the
rest,
because
there's
plenty
of
garden
and
plenty
of
those
properties
out
the
back
of
all
the
others.
But
you
can't
judge
it
on
the
back
of
that
you're
going
to
judge
it
on
the
red
line.
U
That's
in
front
of
you
in
the
application
that
we've
got
a
that's
in
front
of
us,
so
I'm,
just
weighing
up
all
those
arguments
and
I
think
at
the
moment,
I
can't
see
a
reason,
aside
from
what
the
officers
say
for
it
being
a
Congress
and
I,
don't
think
even
that
holds
water.
To
be
perfectly
honest,.
I
Thank
you
for
your
Indulgence
just
to
say
this
current
property
and
go
to
Harvey's
point.
You
could
knock
it
through
and
and
drive
on.
It
would
only
be
used
by
one
family.
There
would
be
a
second
family
in
the
back
and
therefore
the
likelihood
of
of
conflict
is
probably
just
as
is
greater.
That's
all
I.
A
A
N
Thank
you,
so
the
application
is
approved,
subjected
to
some
conditions,
so
that'll
be
the
approved
plans,
time
materials
and
biodiversity.
Compliance
with
the
report,
hours
of
construction,
hours
of
operation,
water
efficiency
standards,
parking,
refuse,
refuse
collection,
cycle
parking,
a
couple
of
nitrates
conditions
for
the
credits
that
they're
purchasing
and
noise
mitigation
due
to
the
nearby
Railway
line.
C
Thank
you,
chair
edition
of
a
three
bed
dwell
in
the
site
was
viewed
by
the
committee
and
I
drew
your
attention
to
the
update
paper
during
the
course
of
the
application.
The
scheme
was
amended
and
the
overall
bulk,
medicine
and
scale
were
reduced
and
the
dwelling
was
moved
seven
meters
away
from
the
western
boundary.
The
application
is
recommended
for
approval,
subject
to
a
legal
agreement
jointly
with
woken
working
about
Borough
Council
to
secure
suitable
alternative
natural
Green
Space,
and
that's
to
compensate
for
mitigate
against
the
impact
on
the
Thames
Valley
Basin
Spa.
V
I
live
at
Hartley
house
and
what
is
a
designated
rural
location
with
my
wife,
Lucy
who's
here
also
here
of
Mr
and
Mrs
hanger,
who
live
in
Hartley
house
bungalow,
and
also
my
mother,
Annie
Fisher
is
here
who
lives
over
the
road
and
Hartley
Cottage.
There's
a
bit
of
background.
V
What
happened
was
that
they
actually
created
a
new
drive
through
the
garden
right
onto
the
back
because
of
they
would
get
more
privacy,
and
this
is
for
the
various
members
of
the
chiefs
of
the
defense
staff.
Churchill
came
and
it
was
rumored.
The
king
also
we're
very
lucky,
but
unfortunately,
this
privacy
is
now
in
Peril.
V
Our
problem
lies
in
the
fact
that
the
LIE
of
the
land,
where
the
proposed
house
is
going
to
be
on
the
very
top
of
the
very
tallest
hill,
which
is
going
to
overlook
partly
its
Gardens
and
grounds
the
streets
scene
provided
is
immaterial
and
frankly,
disingenuous.
The
street
scene
required
is
not
from
bottle
Lane
but
from
Hartley
westball
Lane.
V
V
Here
the
development
will
Loom
High
over
the
lane,
hugely
over
said:
seven
foot,
George
and
wool,
and
over
the
surrounding
Countryside.
As
far
as
the
eye
can
see,
Mr
and
Mrs
hanger
live
in
the
gray
two
list
of
medieval
Hockley
Bungalow
they've
been
very
happy
with
their
rural
Outlook
within
the
Hartley
house,
walled
Gardens.
Now
the
development
will
look
straight
into
their
living
room
kitchen,
bathroom
bedroom.
V
The
defendant
will
Loom
all
over
their
Garden,
which
faces
East.
The
Harley
wall
is
listed,
I
should
know
a
section
came
down
in
the
storm
of
last
February
and
it's
still
to
be
rebuilt.
Due
to
Heritage
planning
having
to
use
the
same
dated
bricks,
Etc,
lime,
mortar,
this
preserved
rule
encompasses
our
boundary
and
is
only
feet
away
from
the
developers
plot.
V
Contrary
to
what
has
been
stated
in
the
proposal,
Hartley
has
always
had
a
working
agricultural
buildings
and
barns.
This
remained
entirely
self-sufficient
in
all
things:
meat,
grain,
fruit
and
vegetables
well
into
the
1950s.
You
have
a
couple
minute
remaining.
Thank
you.
The
green
used
to
be
Windstop
into
the
Lofts,
the
milking
old
parlors
are
still
there.
The
proposed
element
will
not
be
in
keeping
with
the
village
of
Hartley
Westport,
which
is
entirely
ribbon.
V
It
is
its
positioning
further
south
further
from
bottle
land
that
will
make
it
project
over
others.
It'll
protect
project
over
the
wall,
Gardens
project
directly
into
the
hangers
front,
Moon
Room
project
over
every
inch
of
Heartless,
Gardens
and
grinds
will
be
visible
from
public
footpaths.
It
will
be
also
out
of
proportion
of
the
village
where
all
the
other
buildings
are
of
modest
size
in
nature,
the
height
of
the
architectural
style,
the
use
of
materials
has
nothing
in
common
with
the
village.
V
It
is
predominantly
made
which
is
predominantly
made
of
Victorian
Georgian
brick
for
many
hundreds
of
years.
The
Villages
means
a
place
of
peace
and
Harmony.
Only
for
now
this
to
affect
our
Harmony.
As
it
happens,
the
rebuilding
of
the
list
of
War
will
cost
a
six-figure
sum
for
those
muscular
time
historic
buildings.
We
would
only
hope
that
the
authorities
would
help
us
protect
their
integrity.
Thank
you.
A
W
Thank
you
chairman,
and
thank
you
to
the
viewing
panel
for
visiting
the
site
on
Friday
to
see
the
LIE
of
the
land.
That's
been
mentioned.
Mrs
Mrs
Dean
is
going
to
speak
first
I'll
say
a
few
words
afterwards.
Thank
you.
X
Thank
you
and
good
evening.
I
am
here
to
talk
on
path
with
my
mother,
Julia
Donald,
who
owns
plug
Greenhouse,
she's,
unfortunately
unable
to
attend
this
evening,
so
she's
Midway
through
a
chemotherapy
cycle.
My
mother's
lived
at
plow
Greenhouse
for
48
years.
My
brother
and
I
both
grew
up
there.
Since
my
father
died,
she's
continued
to
live
there,
but
is
rattling
around
in
the
house,
wants
to
downsize
to
a
modern
house,
while
still
still
being
part
of
the
home
and
the
village
that
she
loves.
X
We
hope
this
new
dwelling
will
enable
me
and
my
young
family
to
move
into
plow
greenhouse
and
therefore
care
for
My
Mother
by
having
her
in
such
close
proximity
other
than
the
objector
we've
just
heard
from
or
the
other
objections
either
connected
to
them
or
from
outside
of
the
village.
We've
received
multiple
messages
for
support
from
the
villagers
and
other
neighboring
properties
expressing
how
much
they
like
the
design
of
the
house
and
how
they're
very
excited
for
her.
Thank
you.
W
Thank
you,
I
haven't
written
a
speech
she'll,
be
pleased
to
hear
chairman
I'm
I,
commend
the
office's
report
and
just
direct
you
to
the
the
six
reasons
for
granting
approval,
all
of
which
address
the
comments
that
were
made
by
the
objector.
So
I'll
leave
you
to
debate
the
issue
and
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
K
Thank
you
chair.
There
was
a
couple
of
comments
made
with
regard
to
closeness
to
the
neighbors
property
and
to
a
wall.
I
just
wondered
if
officers
could
explain
that
on
on
the
on
the
pictures.
C
A
In
that
case
we
go
to
debate
and
if
you
don't
mind,
I'll
start
it
off.
I've
visited
Mr,
Fisher's
house
must
be
give
or
take
a
year
ago,
to
the
day
it
was,
it
was
a
cold
day
and
I
looked
at
it
from
Mr
Fisher's
Garden.
A
That
was
for
the
old
plan,
which
is
shown
in
Blue
on
page
153
of
your
agendas
and
I
looked
at
that
and
I
felt
it
was
too
big.
I
felt
it
was
too
close
to
the
boundary
and
I
felt.
There
were
certainly
overlooking
issues
since
then
it's
been
moved,
we're
told
seven
meters,
it's
been
made
smaller
and
the
design
has
changed.
A
Z
I
You
chair
to
be
honest
on
site
I
think
we
could.
We
could
gather
that
it
was
a
substantial
improvement
with
the
movement
of
the
the
dwelling
further
into
the
site
and
further
down
and
I
didn't
believe.
There
was
a
huge
visual
impact
upon
the
wider
Countryside
ore,
neighboring
homes
and
houses
and
I
I
think
it
does
meet
our
needs
to
provide
good
housing
close
to
amenities
and
and
I
genuinely
think
this
was,
although
outside
the
settlement,
boundary
was
a
proposal
that
could
be
supported
moving
forward
so
I
liked
it.
I
But
I'll
listen
to
my
fellow
counselors
on
their
on
their
views.
S
As
councilman
said
on
the
site,
visit,
I
I
really
don't
see
a
problem,
I
think
it's
far
enough
away
from
that
wall
and
other
neighbors
that
it
won't
really
be
a
problem.
I
do
think
it's
an
improvement
on
the
original
scheme
and
I'd
be
quite
happy
to
approve
it.
A
A
A
C
C
A
C
Thank
you
chair.
This
is
an
application
list
of
building
consent
for
the
demolition
of
the
existing
rear
extensions
and
their
replacement
for
two-story
rear
extension.
In
addition
to
those
proposals,
this
also
includes
a
provision
of
a
swimming
pool
to
the
South
between
the
barn
and
the
tennis
court
and
extension
to
the
barn
and
an
extension
to
the
garden
store.
C
A
AA
Okay,
it's
not
good
evening
chair
members
officers,
Brown's
Farm
has
existed
since
the
very
late
16th
century,
albeit
the
successive
owners
have
over
all
that
time
adapted
it
refunded
it
altered
part
demolished
part
extended
it
all
to
fit
in
with
the
changing
requirements
of
each
generation.
AA
It
hasn't
been
a
farm
for
many
years,
noraquake
meeting
house
for
over
a
century,
but
it
has
the
potential
to
be
an
attractive,
Country
House.
Unfortunately,
little
has
been
done
to
improve
it
since
the
second
world
war
and
its
range
of
accommodation
is
now
largely
unsuitable
and
outdated
to
serve
as
a
modern
family
home.
AA
The
proposed
extension
takes
the
pressure
for
change
off
the
listed
building.
It
has
been
carefully
designed
to
complement
the
listed
building
in
terms
of
its
form,
materials
and
details
which
is
confined
to
the
rear
of
the
house,
and
its
design
has
been
amended
and
its
size
reduced.
That
the
request
of
the
previous
conservation
and
case
officer.
AA
AA
AA
The
sighting
of
the
proposed
extension
has
been
carefully
considered,
we're
preserving
the
original
front
unaltered
and
the
sides
of
the
building
locating
the
extension
at
the
rear,
thereby
maintaining
the
historic,
visual
appearance
of
the
farmhouse
in
its
Countryside
setting
Azure.
The
report
says
on
page
one:
six,
three.
AA
AB
Mr
chairman
councilors
Brown's
Farm,
is
a
beautiful,
historic
house.
Unfortunately,
it
has
not
been
well
maintained
and
is
no
longer
fit
for
purpose.
I
want
to
breed
new
life
into
it
as
my
forever
home
and
for
future
Generations
I'm,
hoping
to
renovate
both
the
house
and
the
neighboring
Barn
I
want
to
upgrade
the
host
to
Modern
standards,
whilst
maintaining
its
architectural
integrity.
AB
AB
My
application
actually
follows
a
lapse
permission
granted
to
the
previous
owners,
but
this
one
is
more
sympathetic
to
the
original
property
and
makes
much
better
use
of
natural
light.
The
proposed
extension
will
preserve
the
historical
character
of
the
house
as
the
front
and
side
elevations
are
not
being
touched.
It'll
enhance
the
Vista
from
the
rear
by
removing
a
flat
roofed
extension.
It
will
complement
the
original
building
whilst
being
wholly
subservient
to
it.
It
will
create
a
better
living
space
at
a
much
needed
further
bedroom
and
it
will
remedy
the
internal
flow
of
the
house.
AB
The
changes
will
enhance
the
aesthetic
appeal,
the
Symmetry
environmental
friendliness
and
the
functionality
of
the
property
and
make
it
relevant
for
modern
living
I
want
to
update,
upgrade
and
improve
these
beautiful
house
and
barn
sympathetically
to
preserve
the
history
and
ensure
they
can
be
enjoyed
for
many
more
years
to
come.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
I
It's
quite
a
lot
to
take
in
if
I'm,
if
I'm,
really
honest
with
you,
this
is
a
huge
application.
If
we
count
it
all
together
and
had
you
thoughts
of
giving
us
a
in
small
bits
rather
than
one
big
application,
or
was
that
intended
that
you
show
us
what
you're
going
to
do.
AB
Thank
you
for
the
question.
It's
it's
a
it's
a
great
question:
I
think
they
all
work
in
Tandem
and
all
together
when
I'm.
If,
if
I,
can
get
planning
permission
for
one
bit,
I
need
to
consider
the
services,
for
example,
of
a
building
and
and
the
drainage
area
that
will
have
to
go
on
and
those
those
all
have
to
be
done
all
at
once
and
if
I'm
trying
to
do
one
project
from
a
cost
perspective,
it's
far
more
economical
to
have
somebody
on
site
all
at
once
doing
the
whole
proposition
than
doing
it.
AB
Piecemeal,
so
I'm,
sorry
to
burden
you
with
this
larger,
larger
complication,
but
I
hope
you,
you
you'll,
have
the
mindset
to
see
through
that
and
I
hope.
It's
not
a
problem.
F
You
good
evening
so
as
you're
going
synthetically,
what
you
plan
to
Simply
extend
the
property.
Are
you
looking
at
incorporating
subtle,
low-cost,
Energy,
Solutions
and
and
such
like.
AB
Wholeheartedly:
it's
it's
a
it's
a
question
that
affects
me
at
the
moment
as
to
how
what
the
best
way
of
of
heating
a
proposition
going
forward.
Obviously,
the
cost
of
gas
is
going
to
go
up.
We're
not
in
the
gas
Mains
oils
are
just
going
to
go
out
of
the
window.
I
was
shouting
to
somebody
today.
The
advice
I
have
been
given
so
far.
AB
Is
that
grown
Source
heat
pump
for
the
house,
air
source
for
the
barn
and
the
swimming
pool,
and
additionally,
there's
a
cottage
which
I'm
not
doing
anything
that
needs
that
needs
any
planning
permission,
but
that
would
be
an
air
source
heat
pump
as
well.
So
I
would
try
to
Future
proof
the
whole
proposition.
AB
Obviously,
I
haven't
gone
down
down
the
line
to
any
good
extent
and
trying
to
understand
and
understand
the
costing
I
have
actually
had
a
costing
of
what
a
grand
Source
heat
pump
would
be,
and
that's
out
of
date
now,
given
the
the
level
of
inflation,
but
very
definitely
I
will
be
looking
to
use
the
most
modern,
sensible
proposition
in
terms
of
how
to
heat
the
system.
AB
The
sewage
drainage
system,
Etc
will
need
to
be
reassessed
and,
as
I
said
in
my
initial
remarks,
the
house
has
not
been
maintained
that
there's
a
very
little
investment
I
think
Frank
said
since
the
the
second
world
war
and
a
lot
of
those
sort
of
things
have
to
be
looked
at.
But
I
will
take
the
best
advice.
I,
possibly
can
to
make
it
as
future
proof
as
possible.
M
Frost,
thank
you.
Chair
I
mean.
Obviously
it
is
a
sterling
beautiful
building
right
in
the
middle
of
my
ward,
and
you
know
I.
Whenever
I
go
past
and
and
see,
it
always
makes
me
smile,
okay,
reminding
me
just
how
beautiful
some
parts
of
Hampshire
are.
M
However,
it
is
great
to
list
it
okay,
if
it
wasn't
grade
2
listed
okay.
What
would
the
and
looking
at
the
size
of
the
proposed
extension,
what
would
be
allowed
under
permitted
development
rights.
C
C
C
Z
C
Z
C
F
Thank
you
chair.
This
certainly
was
a
sight
worthy
of
viewing,
so
I
I
think
mice.
Summing
up
is
when
you
approach
the
property
along
its
Drive.
You
see
the
elevation
of
the
old
farmhouse
and
it's
actually
largely
should
I
say
intact.
It
hasn't
been
messed
with,
as
you
go
around
to
the
back,
it's
probably
being
polite
to
say
it's
been
messed
with,
but
it's
a
real
hodgepodge
mixture
of
styles
of
Patchwork,
brick
of
different
Windows
of
oh
there.
F
We
are
look
at
that
flat:
roof
bits
of
cats
like
roof,
it's,
yes,
it's
got
some
sort
of
character,
but
it
doesn't,
in
my
opinion,
do
it
justice
and
thankfully
you
can't
see
it
from
the
road
now
to
that
end,
looking
at
the
potential
extension,
it
is
quite
large,
that's
being
proposed,
I
think
it's
actually
again
not
going
to
harm
its
view
from
the
road,
but
I
certainly
buy
the
line
of
making
this
house
because
we
did
have
the
benefit
of
looking
inside,
of
bringing
it
up
to
a
standard
for
modern
day
living,
but
preserving
the
actual
plot
and
its
its
scenery
it's
setting
and
as
from
the
officer's
report,
it
there
isn't
really
an
issue
with
this.
F
It's
the
the
bulk
as
being
the
significant
reason
that
I'm
quite
encouraged
that
someone
would
want
to
invest
something
to
to
look
after
a
property
like
this
to
maintain
in
Practical
terms
what
they
can
to
allow
it
to
carry
on
its
future,
preserve
a
lot
of
its
past
and
and
I.
Think
it's
quite
sympathetic,
and
certainly
when
you
look
at
the
houses
around
this
is
actually
quite
small,
but
then
it's
not
actually
in
a
straight
scene
with
its
neighbors.
So
I'll
leave
it
at
that
at
this
stage.
I
Thank
you
chair,
and
it
was
good
to
see
Scott
looking
at
the
cost
implications
of
everything.
I
think
I
commend
I,
don't
know,
I
commend
the
applicant,
for
that
rightly
the
the
we
need
to
focus
on
the
back
and
and
frankly,
it
is
higgledy-piggledy,
there's
a
toilet
that
essentially
with
a
single
skinned
wall
out
into
that
area.
That
is
not
what
I
would
expect
in
a
house
that
is
a
grade
two
listed.
I
We
we
have
to
take
on
board
that
they've
made
one
application
to
to
both
stretch
our
our
brains
and
our
thoughts,
but
because
there
is
as
the
applicant
and
this
agent
said,
there
are
things
that
we
would
have
approved
anyway.
The
upgrade
of
the
bar
allowance
for
a
swimming
pool
allowance
for
the
heating
to
be
air,
sourced,
tea
or
or
ground
sourced
I
think
all
of
those
things
are
hugely
commendable.
So
we
come
down
to
is
the
bulk
too
much
is
it?
I
Does
it
dominate
the
house,
but
in
my
view,
is
that
it
it
doesn't
and
the
main
facade
the
the
facade
that
you
see
coming
from
my
Village
of
Ashford
Hill
onto
the
house
is
retained.
I
There
is
no
no
touching
of
the
sides,
so
you
are
going
to
get
the
best
of
what
is
there
and
an
improvement
of
the
the
poorly
maintained
and
poorly
designed
previously
and
with
the
time
that
I've
taken
to
to
review
it
and
the
site
visit,
which
I
think
was
very
informative,
actually
and
because
the
boss,
the
boss,
traveled
away
from
it,
and
you
could
look
back
and
think
what
would
what
would
your
street
scene
be
then
and
I
think
frankly,
it
would
be
a
better.
I
It
would
better
be
a
better
outcome
than
what
is
currently
there
and
so
I
I'm
happy
to
to
move
a
recommendation
for
approval
based
upon
that.
The
bulk
scale
size
are
in
keeping
with
the
house
of
tremendous
validity
and
we
need
in
our
Borough
to
make
sure
that
we
get
the
right.
The
right,
extensions
right
changes
to
these
homes
and
I
think
this
probably
falls
on
the
side
that
it
is
acceptable.
So
I
move
an
approval.
A
A
B
And
then
from
the
ward
of
evingar,
I
see
an
awful
lot
of
grade
two
grade:
one
castles,
etc,
etc
and
there's
always
a
sense
of
frustration.
The
list
of
building
regulations
often
apply
to
an
Era.
That's
long
since
gone,
you
know
the
modern
world,
whether
we
love
it
or
hate
it.
Well,
I
think
everyone
deserves
to
have
adequate
heating,
internet
access,
etc,
etc.
So
some
of
the
ancient
protections
I
think
should
be
swept
away
and
just
because
it's
old
doesn't
mean
to
say
it's
wonderful.
B
You
missed
an
opportunity
there,
yeah
yeah,
so
this
looks
a
very
sensitive
approach
to
bringing
a
property
up
to
the
modern
era
and
and
all
the
accruements
that
go
with
it
would
make
it
a
you
know,
a
really
fabulous
place.
So
I
would
be
very
happy
to
support
the
the
approval.
A
Thank
you,
I,
don't
like
it
I'm
sorry,
I've,
no
problem
with
a
barn
I've,
no
problem
with
a
pool
I
own
the
house.
There's
absolutely
no
doubt
about
it.
It
does
need
something
to
do
it
with
it.
It
is
hot
spot
shoes,
untidy
old
extensions
aren't
pretty
is
what
before
is
the
right
answer?
I,
don't
think
it
is
I
think
we
lose
the
legibility
of
the
property
we
lose.
The
historic
footprint
I
think
the
scale
could
be.
A
A
Okay,
I
think
we've
got
councilor
Harvey
and
then
we
will
go
to
the
vote.
Thank
you,
councilor
Harvey
thank.
U
You
chair
I,
note
the
debate
that
members
having
and
the
direction
that
I
that
you're
going
in
on
this.
In
the
conversation
that's
been
had
and
I
don't
disagree
with
you.
However,
on
page
178
I
do
think
it's
important,
but
if
we're
going
to
go
down
that
road,
that
we
acknowledge
that
the
historic
environment's
objection,
the
historic
buildings
and
places
objection
the
society
for
the
protection
of
ancient
buildings,
objection
and
the
council,
the
British
archeology
objection
are
on
this
application
and
we
shouldn't
ignore
them.
U
So
in
weighing
all
of
this
up,
I
think
we
need
to
do
consideration
for
the
fact
that
all
of
those
are
objecting
to
this,
for
the
reasons
they
are
objecting
to
it.
That
doesn't
take
away
from
the
argument.
That's
been
had
about
whether
it's
relevant
and
the
context
in
which
it's
been
set
by
the
speakers
and
by
colleagues,
but
they
are
important
objections
that
we
shouldn't
ignore.
U
I
Thank
you
chair.
It
is
that
the
proposed
extension
by
virtue
of
its
scale
and
sighting
do
not
over
do
not
dominate
the
original
home
and
and
fundamentally
keep
intact
the
historic
listing
of
the
building.
It
is
noted
that
the
parish
council
did
not
object
on
this
and
they
are
fairly
normally
fairly
loud
on
objections.
So
I
hope.
Those
reasons
for
for
approval
are
are
sufficient.
E
A
C
Can
just
go
through
conditions,
so
the
conditions
would
be
a
pre
commencement,
one
with
regards
to
materials
and
joinery
detail
a
condition
regarding
biodiversity.
A
A
A
Thank
you.
Yeah
item
number,
seven
chances,
Barn
Trade,
Street,
Walton,
Hill,
better
I,.
N
N
To
the
hill
for
the
erection
of
a
two-bedroom
detached
accessible
property
in
the
existing
side
garden
with
a
new
access
to
the
front,
the
application
was
previously
refused
at
committee
for
over
development
and
the
lack
of
immunity
space.
The
proposal
has
made
some
changes.
These
are
listed
on
page
201
of
the
agenda
paper.
The
immunity
land
for
the
existed
property
has
not
altered,
which
we've
recognized.
However,
there
is
a
space
of
10
meters
between
the
property
and
the
proposed
boundary,
which
is
in
accordance
with
our
design
and
sustainability
SPD.
N
It
is
also
the
officer's
view
that
the
development
would
not
result
in
significant
or
demonstrable
harm
to
Warrant
refusal
in
this
instance.
Given
the
number
of
benefits
which
are
listed
on
page
two,
one
three
of
the
agenda,
the
applicator
the
applicant
has,
since
the
preparation
of
the
agenda
provided
a
photo
showing
the
recent
planting
of
the
privet
hedge
to
the
front
adjacent
to
the
highway.
It
should
be
noted
that
the
fence
doesn't
have
permission
and
a
separate
application
will
follow
to
follow
for
this.
N
A
AC
Thank
you,
chairman
members,
my
name's
Lisa
Jackson
and
I'm
the
planning
agent
for
this
application.
When
I
was
approached
to
consider
the
previous
refusal
on
this
site.
Whilst
I
believed
it
wasn't
acceptable
proposal,
I
recognize
that
there
were
objections
locally
and
that
there
were
two
main
concerns
of
this
committee.
AC
I
therefore
suggested
to
the
applicant
that
this
was
a
good
opportunity
to
address
those
concerns
and
create
a
solution
for
this
site
that
should
find
more
support.
The
first
of
those
concerns
was
regarding
character
and
to
respond
to
that.
The
design
was
revised
as
follows:
revise
elevations
with
a
more
vernacular
cottage-style
development,
a
simple
traditional
pitch
with
full
Gables
and
a
narrow
span,
research,
recessed,
cottage
style,
small
pane
windows
with
first
floor
windows
at
Eaves
level,
a
simple
porch
with
a
pitched
roof
reduced
height
of
the
dwelling
by
600
millimeters.
AC
The
position
of
the
dwelling
was
moved
forward
so
that
the
Gap
at
the
rear
is
1.5
meters,
which
is
to
match
chances
born
adjacent.
The
turntable
was
removed
from
the
application,
because
this
was
not
required
by
Highway
authorities
and
it
was
seen
as
urbanizing
by
objectors
the
Velux
roof
lights.
On
the
front,
elevation
were
removed
to
assist
with
assimilation
in
the
street
scene
and
Slimline
in
roof.
Solar
panels
are
proposed
on
the
rear
elevation
to
ensure
sustainability
of
the
new
dwelling
members.
Other
concern
in
relation
to
the
character
or
scale
issues
and
to
assist
members.
AC
I
can
confirm
that
I
examined
this
issue
in
detail
and
compare
the
application
scheme
directly
against
the
other
dwellings.
This
side
of
Trade
Street,
which,
incidentally,
is
of
a
very
mixed
character
from
my
measurements
I,
can
confirm.
The
proposed
house
has
a
16
site
coverage.
This
is
the
fourth
lowest
percentage
in
this
side
of
the
street.
The
gap
between
this
dwelling
and
its
neighbor
is
16.8
meters,
and
only
two
dwellings
on
the
street
have
wider
gaps.
The
footprint
of
The
Proposal
is
the
smallest
on
the
street,
but
it's
not
the
smallest
plot.
AC
Two
dwellings
have
smaller
plot
sizes,
and,
incidentally,
they
both
have
higher
percentage
plot,
coverages,
six
percent
higher
and
eleven
percent
higher,
and
the
setback
from
the
road
is
again
not
the
tightest
on
this
street.
So
this
demonstrates
objectively
that
the
proposal
is
not
out
of
character
in
terms
of
scale.
AC
Last
time,
members
also
felt
that
Chance's
Barn
would
be
left
within
adequate
immunity
space.
The
council's
SPD
on
Garden
size
requires
60
square
meters
minimum,
but
this
proposal
has
120
square
meters,
so
it
is
double
that
minimum
amenity
requirement
so
complying
the
standard
with
the
standard
means
that
refusal
on
that
point
couldn't
be
sustained.
AC
Planning
decisions
must
be
made
on
a
balanced
assessment
and
using
all
the
objective
evidence,
and
your
offices
have
made
that
professional
and
balanced
assessment
based
on
all
the
policies
of
the
plan
and
the
thorough
review
of
all
the
material
considerations.
In
this
case,
including
the
new
recently
adopted
neighborhood
plan.
You.
E
K
AC
Foreign,
yes,
the
reason
that
was
taken
out
is
because
the
highway
Authority
said
it
was
not
necessary
and
they
wouldn't
raise
an
objection
if
the
turntable
was
removed
and
because
other
people
felt
it
was
an
urbanizing
character,
realistic
and
there
aren't
others
in
the
road
it
was
felt.
It
was
better
to
remove
it.
L
So
he
was
also
just
looking
for
that
that
particular
measurement
and
I
think
that
the
comment
being
made
there
is
obviously
in
relation
to
one
specific
corner.
I.
Think
that's
the
parish
council's
comments.
It's
not
about
the.
N
Yeah,
so
it's
from
so
from
where
they're
planting
is
so,
if
you
just
get
that
photo
up
from,
can
you
just
get
the
photo
of
the
front
hedge
with
the
fence
yeah
so
to
wear
that
to
where
that
vent,
the
fences
and
the
planting
sort
of
you
can
see
at
the
bottom.
That
is
showing
us
1.3
meters
on
their
site
plan.
N
That's
from
the
closest
part,
so
that's
from
the
west
Western
Edge
of
the
the
Western
corner
and
then
from
the
corner
adjacent
to
the
parking
access.
It's
3.3
meters
to
the
fence
line.
Okay,.
K
I
was
just
just
looking
at
the
the
requirement
for
storage
facilities
for
bicycles
and
probably
bins.
I
I
just
can't
see
where
that
would
be
I
wonder
if
offices
could
elaborate.
N
U
On
I'll
get
this
one
off
for
once
when
the
application
was
rejected
previously,
for
all
the
reasons
given
and
you
then
look
at
what
the
applicant
has
now
done
and
how
the
approach
is
to
change
and
to
adapt,
I
think
they've
actually
been
very
reasoned
and
I
cannot
see
a
reason
to
reject
this.
A
One
two
three
thank
you
that
is
approved,
so
you
know
or
better
whoever.
Thank.
N
C
Thank
you
chair.
This
is
an
application
to
vary
two
conditions
conditions,
one
which
is
the
plans
on
the
previous
approved
TDC
and
condition
15,
which
related
to
connecting
to
a
package
treatment
plant.
The
reason
it's
before
you
as
a
committee
there's,
not
enough
objections
and
it
hasn't
been
called
in,
but
because
condition
15
was
imposed
when
the
TTC
was
approved
by
committee.
It
was
imposed
by
the
committee.
That's
why
we
brought
it
back
before
you,
so
our
recommendation
is
with
regards
to
condition
one.
C
The
plans
that
would
now
be
approved
were
ones
that
you
considered
at
the
committee.
It's
just
that
we
refer.
We
refer
to
the
wrong
revision
number
in
the
condition,
so
it's
just
rectifying
that
and
it's
a
plan
that
you've
already
considered
as
part
of
the
previous
approval
for
the
TDC
condition
15
the
previous
TDC
application
when
it
was
before
you,
the
officer's
recommendation
and
the
statutory
consultee's
recommendation
was
that
it
was
connecting
to
the
main
service
the
committee
put
on
the
requirement
for
a
package
treatment
plant.
C
As
part
of
this
application,
the
agent
has
submitted
details
to
show
that
they
can
connect
to
main
sewers
and
there's
no
objection
from
statutory
quantities
as
before.
And
therefore
the
officer's
recommendation
is
that
again
this
time
around
that
the
condition
being
amended
so
that
you
connect
to
the
the
main
sewer.
So
the
office
was
recommendations
for
approval.
AD
Thank
you
chair,
as
Miss
Talbot
has
indicated
we're
only
here
because
of
unnecessary
wording
in
the
fall
drainage
condition
that
was
added
to
permission.
20,
2893
TDC,
inserted
by
members
at
the
12th
of
October
committee
for
the
package,
treatment
plant
and
contrary
to
offices.
Advice,
then
that
in
the.
AD
View
the
treatment
plant
was
the
only
appropriate
solution
for
feral
drainage.
Some
helpful
context.
Here
there
was
a
previous
TDC
with
a
marginally
different
built
form
granted
on
appeal
and
with
a
costs
award
against
the
council.
That
permission
is
still
extant
and
so
is
and
is
so
until
May
of
next
year,
and
that
was
approved
on
the
basis
of
Maine's
foul
that
TDC
had
a
slightly
different
form
of
nutrient
neutrality
mitigation.
It
was
on
adjacent
lands
secured
by
an
undertaking.
AD
You'll
recall
when
we
were
here
in
October
prior
to
that
committee.
Basil
circum
Dean
had
agreed
to
take
part
in
a
Nitric
and
charity
scheme
administered
by
eastleigh,
and
that
was
incorporated
into
the
decision
to
application.
29
2893.
AD
The
credit
requirement
has
been
determined
in
line
with
natural
angular
guidance.
It
depends
on
the
number
of
bedrooms
in
the
units
and
the
calculation
assumes
Maine's
connection
you've
seen
a
copy
of
Southern
Waters
plan
showing
the
location
of
Maine's
fowl
in
the
vicinity.
I've
got
a
large
printed
version
of
the
same.
If
you
need
to
see
it,
the
sewers
to
28
and
13
St
Michael's
clothes
run
in
front
of
26
and
24,
and
there
is
a
newer
manhole
in
the
northeast
corner
of
28.
With
connection
to
30..
AD
AD
National
planning
guidance
and
building
regulations
indicate
the
Wastewater
hierarchy,
septic
tanks
and
packaged
treatment
plants
may
only
be
considered
if
it
can
be
clearly
demonstrated
that
discharging
into
a
public
sewer
is
not
feasible.
I
emphasize
those
words
main
foul
mainfowl
are
available
to
serve
the
units.
Connection
is
feasible
and
connection
is
an
absolute
right,
regardless
of
whether
there
are
capacity
issues
in
those
Mains.
But
the
southern
water
response
to
the
application
does
not
raise
any
capacity
issues.
AD
AD
F
Thank
you
so
you
you
mentioned
this
nearest
connection,
but
you
use
the
word
new
node.
Can
you
tell
us
the
dates
of
or
the
history
of,
why
it's
a
new
node.
AD
So
the
plan
that
you've
got
there
was
produced
in
2017
before
number
28
and
30
were
built
just
to
the
south
of
where
that
blue
circle
is
the
new
node
is
in
the
corner
of
number
28.
It's
approximately
50
meters
from
the
the
node.
That's
within
that
blue
circle,
the
the
southernmost
of
those
new
nodes,
so
the
the
existing
dwellings
that
are
already
present
beyond
the
bounds
of
that
which
were
constructed
after
that
2017
plan
were
put.
AD
A
A
C
N
Thank
you
chairman.
This
is
a
retrospective
full
planning,
application
of
recreation,
Overton
recreation
center
for
the
variation
of
condition
5
of
16
forward,
slash
00903
forward,
slash
ful
to
allow
floodlights
to
be
used
at
additional
times.
There
are
six
floodlights
measuring
15
meters
in
height
and
used
around
the
existing
football
pitch.
N
This
current
application
seeks
to
rectify
the
previous
requested
hours
to
allow
the
lighting
to
be
used
during
the
original
times
as
approved,
which
is
7
to
10
p.m,
between
the
months
of
September
to
April
and,
in
addition,
seeks
the
extension
of
use
of
lighting
between
the
1st
of
May
to
the
30th
of
September
between
the
hours
of
8
P.M
to
midnight,
but
for
only
six
events
during
that
period,
it
is
noted
that
each
floodlight
has
14
bulbs,
but
only
one
bulb
in
each
floodlight
are
proposed
to
be
used
during
these
additional
six
events
between
eight
and
12
during
these
months
to
minimize
the
impact
on
the
residents
in
the
local
area,
the
application
is
recommended
for
approval
subject
to
conditions,
whereas
worth
noting
out
that
condition.
N
A
AE
The
equipments
support
their
application
by
using
the
good
old
cards
of
health
and
safety
security,
promotion
of
convention
Spirit
funding
of
sports
facilities
for
all,
which
are
clearly
convenient,
supporting
arguments.
We
do
not
have
an
issue
with
Village
events.
These
are
not
very
frequent,
but
the
use
of
six
15
meter
tall
floodlights,
enable
people
attending
private
events
to
leave
the
premises
safely,
is
total
Overkill
and
does
adversely
affect
neighbors
and
officers
acknowledge
this
in
their
report.
AE
The
original
cutting
applications
cited
that
the
lights
have
been
obscured
or
partially
obscured
by
trees
and
hedges
around
the
site.
Since
the
floodlights
have
been
installed,
the
RC
have
sought
permission
and
filled
17
trees
around
the
site,
which
is
probably
around
about
30
percent
of
them,
and
also
removed
virtually
all
of
the
hedging
on
the
North
Boundary
of
the
site,
which
also
blocked
a
significant
amount
of
light
spinach.
AE
The
phrase
only
six
events
comes
up
throughout
the
report.
The
reality
is
all
these
vents
will
be
at
weekends,
particularly
in
a
period
June
through
to
August.
So
that's
two
events.
A
month
the
application
mentions
Village
events,
the
Scarecrow
festival
and
sheep
Fair
are
quoted.
These
only
happen
every
four
years,
so
the
remainder
of
these
events
are
likely
to
be
private
events
like
weddings
and
parties,
where
the
support
arguments
and
benefits
to
community,
etc,
etc,
not
really
relevant.
AE
We
have
concerns
that
the
extension
to
time
that
floodlights
can
be
used
will
increase
noise
nuisance,
as
events
will
happen
out
on
the
sports
field,
that's
now
being
illuminated
extremely
unlikely
of
the
events
without
their
music.
So,
in
reality,
what
you
get
is
a
flood-lit
disco
until
midnight
on
Saturday
night.
We
believe
that
this
does
affect
the
immunity
of
Neighbors,
the
baffles
that
have
been
installed
and
the
lights
are
not
effective.
No
one
has
ever
checked
the
lights
Bridge
within
the
supplier
specification
when
all
the
lights
are
on.
AE
You
could
easily
sit
in
my
front
garden
and
read
a
book
at
10
o'clock
at
night
during
football
season,
for
which
the
floodlights
were
supposedly
erected.
Neighbors
normally
have
their
curtains
and
Windows
shut,
so
the
effective
lights
and
noise
is
restricted
during
the
summer.
It's
not
unreasonable
to
expect
on
a
Saturday
night.
You
can
have
the
curtains
windows
open.
AE
You
can't,
if
you
have
a
flood,
lit
disco
next
door
from
biodiversity
point
of
view,
condition
5
sought
to
protect
species
associated
with
river
and
its
surroundings,
in
particular,
to
protect
foraging
bats
in
a
bat
season
which
runs
from
April
to
October.
The
biodiversity
officer
now
thinks,
as
it's
only
six
events
per
year.
The
flood
Lighting
in
this
season
is
okay.
You.
AE
Could
be
for
it
not
to
be
okay,
there
are
concerns,
are
a
slow
creeper
planning
activity
on
the
orc
Bridge
Street
site.
Last
year
the
Cricket
Club
applied
for
Planet
mission
to
replace
a
shed
with
a
new
wooden
structure.
It
was
staged
in
their
application.
It
would
be
used
for
players,
parents
and
spectator
to
sit
and
during
cricket
games
and
training.
The
structure
has
now
become
a
clubhouse.
As
an
Alcoa
licensed
Food
hygiene
ratings
available
to
hire
for
private
functions.
The
RC
are
very
good
at
stretching
a
planning
application.
AE
Finally
asked
this
question:
has
the
planning
officer
or
members
of
development
control
committee
been
to
the
site
at
night
to
see
the
effect
of
the
floodlights
we're
unsure
as
how
you
can
make
a
decision
on
this
application?
We
haven't
witnessed
the
effect.
We
would
therefore
suggest
the
correct
cause
of
action
would
be
either
to
refuse
the
application
or
defer
the
decision
until
a
suitable
site
visit
has
been
arranged
when
the
lights
are
on
at
night.
A
A
AF
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
and
fellow
members.
I
should
first
like
to
make
it
clear
that
the
subject
of
this
application
was
originally
approved
by
the
planning
officer,
but
an
error
was
made
on
the
notice
of
approval.
The
period
they
saw
April
to
September
were
inexplicably
reversed
to
September
to
April.
So
this
is
a
fresh
application
which
we
made
as
the
applicant
Overton
Recreation
Center
is
unique.
It's
a
registered
charity
of
nearly
60
years,
run
by
volunteers,
providing
sports
and
recreation
facilities
in
Overton
of
the
type
normally
provided
by
a
parish
council.
AF
We
have
over
12
clubs
with
more
than
24
teams,
using
our
facilities
and
some
1700
members
and
three
and
a
half
thousand
monthly
users.
However,
maintaining
and
improving
facilities
to
provide
affordable
sport
can
be
challenging.
In
these
circumstances,
limited
use
of
the
facilities
at
our
Bridge
Street
Recreation
ground
brings
in
much
needed
fundraising
for
the
orc
Affiliated
clubs
and
good
causes.
AF
AF
K
A
A
You
said
the
purpose
is
for
people
leaving
events
rather
than
you
know,
a
game
of
rugby
or
anything
and
obviously
you're
only
putting
one
light
on
in
each.
So
it's
not
going
to
be
flood
lit
it's
going
to
be
illuminated
will
be
a
more
accurate
way
of
describe
it,
but
I'm.
Looking
at
the
plan
on
page
292,
that's
the
one
I'm
taking
the
guess
that
the
red
dots
are
where
the
light's
going
to
be.
Why
are
we
lighting
the
whole
field
or
talking
about
lighting
the
whole
field?
AF
We're
not
Mr
chairman,
we're
not
actually
seeking
to
to
do
that.
We're
seeking
just
to
actually
have
wherever
we
need
to
clear
up
wherever
we
need
to
direct
people
to
actually
leave
the
event
to
actually
have
those
lights
on
them.
We're
not
we're
not
actually
seeking
to
actually
have
all
the
lights
on
at
any
one
time.
Y
A
AG
Have
one
minute
remaining?
Thank
you.
Mr
chairman,
seek
your
support
for
this
application.
I
should
make
clear
that
I
am
no
longer
a
trustee
of
Overton,
Recreation,
Center
and
I
resent
the
suggestion
that
I
am
I,
believe
it
not
to
be
unreasonable.
AG
These
proposals,
they're,
aimed
at
health
and
safety
concerns
and
the
beneficial
element
for
The
Wider
community
in
supporting
community
events
and
raising
much
needed
funds
I'm
mindful
of
the
concerns
expressed
by
objectors,
but
it
should
make
clear
that
this
is
not
a
rerun
of
the
arguments
rejected
when
the
original
approval
for
floodlighting
was
made
in
2016..
It
is
generally
directed
at
health
and
safety
issues
arising
from
the
exit
from
events
and
ensuring
that
there's
need
for
clearing
up
in
practice.
AG
Lights
would
be
used
for
up
to
a
maximum
of
an
hour,
and
please
note
that,
because
vents
take
place
at
varying
times,
there
is
a
need
for
some
flexibility
in
the
times
specified,
but
I
believe
it.
The
Overton
Recreation
Center
should
work
collaboratively
with
local
neighbors
to
make
sure
that
they're
aware
of
what's
proposed
and
they
can
voice
ideas
so
that
we
can
minimize
the
impact
on
on
neighbors.
AG
If
this
approval
goes
forward,
that
wedding
events
shouldn't
be
held
any
longer
on
on
the
site,
I
note
that
no
objections
from
biodiversity,
environmental,
health,
historic
environmental,
health
and
I
also
note
that
Overton
Paris
council
did
not
object.
I
should
point
out
that
Overton
Paris
Council
Mission
includes
support
for
nurturing
a
strong
Community
Spirit,
promoting
culture,
Leisure
and
sports
opportunities,
and
to
Foster
the
health
and
well-being
of
parishioners
I.
AG
Believe
this
matches
the
approach
that
the
charity,
Overton,
Recreation,
Center,
take
and
I
believe
that
the
more
practical
solution
in
supporting
community
events
is
to
use
the
existing
capability
in
a
limited
and
controlled
way.
Previously
safe
exits
were
provided
by
diesel
powered
mobile
tower
lights
of
the
type
that
you
often
see
at
night
time
on
roadworks.
This
was
noisy
costly
to
hire
and
set
huge
logistical
challenges
in
in
maneuvering
and
being
bringing
these
machines
to
to
the
site.
You.
AG
So
it's
much
better
to
use
the
existing
lighting
capability.
I
think
this
application
has
identified
the
need
for
better
communication
between
the
Overton
recreation
center
and
the
neighbors
and
I
hope
that
that
is
something
that
can
be
readily
approved
and
move
forward.
I
urge
you
to
support
the
application.
K
Am
I
right
in
thinking
that
these
events
are
actually
governed
by
licensing
committee
and
the
permission
for
what
times
they
start
and
finish
will
be
decided
by
then
so
really
effectively.
All
we're
deciding
here
is
whether
we
can
have
lighting
for
an
event.
That's
been
decided
elsewhere,.
N
The
biodiversity
officers
reviewed
the
lighting
and
raised
no
objections
to
this
development
in
terms
of
the
planning
application.
There
are
other
legislations
in
terms
of
bat
lighting
that
they
need
to
follow,
but
the
biodiversity
officers
reviewed
that
would
have
picked
anything
up
like
that
if
he
saw
it
as
an
issue,
great.
G
A
A
N
You
chairman,
so
that
applications
approved
following
the
officer's
recommendation
and
the
and
is
subject
to
conditions
listed
at
the
end
of
the
report
on
the
agenda.
Thank
you.