►
Description
If there is buffering on the YouTube stream, the webcast can be viewed through the council's website https://www.basingstoke.gov.uk/webcast
A
A
Okay,
it's
all
right.
It's
going
to
work
right
good
evening,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
and
welcome.
The
first
item.
Is
the
fire
evacuation
procedures
for
this
evening's
meeting
and
there
are
no
fire
alarms
scheduled
for
this
evening.
Therefore,
if
a
fire
alarm
sounds,
please
evacuate
the
building
immediately.
The
fire
exit
is
located
at
the
side
of
this
room.
A
The
exit
through
the
reception
and
meet
in
the
War,
Memorial
Park
and
the
webcast
is
being
meeting,
is
being
webcast,
live
on
the
internet
and
will
be
available
to
view
on
YouTube
after
the
meeting
and
the
Revenge
about
your
mobile
phones.
Please
switch
your
phones
off
or
turn
to
silence
during
the
meeting.
Thank
you
and
please
indicate
when
you
want
to
speak
as
I've
said
to
you
last
time.
I
sometimes
can't
see
who
everyone
is
so
please
bear
with
me
as
we
go
on
okay,
so
the
agenda
this
evening.
A
B
Thank
you,
chairs,
councilor,
Carl
senses.
A
A
As
far
as
I'm
aware,
there
are
no
urgent
matters
to
discuss
so
we've
completed
that
item.
The
next
item
is
the
minutes
of
the
meeting
which
was
held
on
the
14th
of
June.
Are
there
any
comments
on
accuracy
or
do
you
agree
that
I
signed
them
happy
I
will
sign
them
before
I
leave
the
meeting.
Thank
you.
A
So,
let's
get
to
the
meet
of
the
agenda,
and
this
is
our
green
infrastructure
strategy.
Progress
update
and
obviously
we
have
got
Paul
Johnson
here,
who's
going
to
actually
introduce
the
paper,
but
I
will
ask
councilor
Tomlin,
firstly
to
introduce
her
cancer
Tomlin.
C
Thank
you,
chair
and
good
evening,
members
so
I'm
pleased
to
introduce
this
report
for
you,
which
obviously
Paul
will
go
through
with
you,
but
this
is
going
to
provide
you.
An
update
on
progress
of
the
council's
green
infrastructure
strategy
started
in
2018
sets
out
a
framework
for
the
structure
and
coordinated
management
of
the
green
infrastructure
assets
within
our
Borough.
So
this
is
years
three
and
four
that
we're
reporting
on
this
evening.
C
We
have
seen
a
number
of
achievements.
A
lot
of
them
are
listed
in
in
the
paper
over
a
million
pounds
has
been
allocated
within
the
capital
program.
It
was
spent
on
play
in
Open
Spaces
across
the
borough.
We've
got
our
new
ranger
team
and
we're
developing
the
team
they're
delivering
the
nature
conservation
improvements
on
sites
providing
more
extensive
support
to
volunteers
and
conservation
groups.
They've
got
some
new
toys
to
play
with
as
well,
and
that
sounds
like
this.
C
The
emerging
local
plan
we've
also
seen
the
initial
production
of
the
east
of
Basingstoke
natural
environment
management
plan
that
seeks
to
improve
green
infrastructure
and
Link
a
number
of
the
parks
in
the
borough
out
from
the
center
of
town
towards
the
east,
openly
parks
on
our
open
spaces
and
we're
starting
to
look
quite
seriously
at
that
now,
and
also
we
are
assessing
what
potential
we
might
have
for
carbon
sequestration
on
our
land.
This
is
all
part
of
the
climate
change
emergency.
C
So
I
would
like
you
please
to
note
that
things
have
changed
in
the
the
the
years.
Since
we
started
that
this
GI
strategy
and
in
terms
it
will
form
the
focus
of
the
work
that
we're
going
to
be
doing
in
the
upcoming
year
and
the
future,
we
have
now
got
the
environment
act
which
sends
us
instructions,
there's
a
publishment
of
the
national
GI
framework
for
us
to
look
at
and,
of
course,
internally.
C
We
have
now
declared
our
climate
emergency
and
ecological
emergency
and
our
air
quality
standards,
so
that
is
driving
everything
we
do
as
well,
so
we'll
be
starting
to
assess
what
might
be
included
in
an
update
of
this
strategy.
As
it's
a
live
document
which
we'll
be
looking
at
doing,
24
25.,
the
main
priorities
will
be
to
publish
a
new
biodiversity
strategy
for
the
borough.
We
have
to
do
this.
C
Our
Target
is
hopefully
by
January
2024
ensure
our
local
Plan
update,
includes
very
strong
policies,
particularly
with
again
biodiversity
net
gain
the
various
mechanisms
there
we
that
we
have
to
do
this
by
September
2023
for
Planning
and
Development,
and
obviously
the
sites
and
developers
to
work
to.
C
C
We're
going
to
review
our
Council
Tree
policy,
we're
also
going
to
review
this
document
and,
again,
very
importantly,
we're
going
to
strengthen
the
work
with
our
partners
and
volunteers
on
the
nature
conservation
projects
without
the
borough,
but
without
throughout
the
borough,
and
we
will
enhance
the
parks
and
open
spaces
with
new
facilities
funded
through
our
Capital
program
and
we're
going
to
be
busy
so
over
to
Paul
will
take
you
through
the
paper.
Thank.
D
You
thank
you
councilor
Tomlin,
that's
very
comprehensive
there
and
thank
you
very
much
everyone
for
coming
along
tonight,
as
councilor
Tomlin
has
set
out.
This
is
an
update
report
that
sort
of
like
gives
more
detail
on
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
over
the
last
two
years.
The
report
is
structured.
It
starts
off
with
a
summary
of
achievements.
Then
there's
a
table
setting
out
all
the
object,
the
actions
from
the
action
plan
that
was
pended
to
the
local
plan.
D
Oh
sorry,
the
green
infrastructure
strategy
and
then
there's
some
data
that
sort
of
like
illustrate
the
work
that
we've
been
doing.
D
Clearly
as
counselor
Tomlin
mentioned,
one
of
the
big
drivers
over
the
last
couple
of
years
has
been
the
environment
act,
which
was
enacted
in
November
21
and
provides
legally
binding
targets
for
environmental
improvements
in
air
quality,
biodiversity,
Water,
Resource
efficiency
and
also
waste
reduction.
This
report
really
concentrates
on
the
biodiversity
elements
there.
There
are
a
whole
number
of
things
that
we
will
be
obliged
to
produce
and
provide
for
biodiversity
and
nature
conservation.
D
The
this
will
relate
to
the
government's
25-year
environment
plan,
which
was
made
under
the
environment
act,
and
there
will
be
a
review
every
five
years
to
make
sure
that
the
goals
and
the
targets
are
being
met,
and
these
have
become
statutory
processes
and
will
include
a
whole
number
of
elements
which
I'll
go
into
a
bit
more
detail
about.
D
Firstly,
it
there,
it
covers
the
mandatory
biodiversity
net
gain,
which
is
an
approach
to
new
development,
and
essentially,
what
happens
is
that
as
part
of
a
planning
application,
a
site
will
be
given
a
biodiversity
score
that
sets
out
the
value
of
the
site
based
on
National
sort
of
like
guidance
in
terms
of
criteria.
D
Essentially,
each
different
habitat
will
have
a
different
score.
Then
it
will
be
added
up
and
then
what
needs
to
happen
is
once
the
development
is
implemented.
There
needs
to
be
a
plan
that
ensures
that
10
extra
on
top
of
the
original
score
of
biodiversity
value
is
provided
so
say.
For
example,
the
biodiversity
value
of
a
undeveloped
site
is
10.
D
After
development
happens,
it
needs
to
be
at
least
11.,
so
that
just
gives
a
rough
idea
on
how
it
works
that
becomes
mandatory
from
November
2023
and
obviously
this
will
link
into
the
adopted
local
plan
and
policies
that
are
emerging
there.
However,
we
have
been
requiring
developers
to
provide
biodiversity
net
gains
already
and
based
on
certain
Dean
is
one
of
only
one
of
27
of
authorities
that
have
policies
in
place
for
that.
D
So
we
are,
you
know
ahead
of
the
game
there
with
that,
but
obviously,
as
as
guidance
develops
on
biodiversity
Net
game,
we'll
slightly
need
to
amend
that
or
update
that
as
necessary.
D
D
That
is
something
that
is
being
led
on
at
a
county
level.
Scale
and
I
understand
that
Hampshire
County
Council
have
recently
been
given
the
responsible
Authority
status,
and
we
are
working
with
them
to
see
initial
stages
at
the
moment
to
look
at
how
the
local
nature
recovery,
Network
strategy
might
come
out.
So
that's
a
piece
of
work,
that's
already
been
happening
and
it
will
continue
and
part
of
the
environment
act
now
requires
local
authorities
to
meet
the
biodiversity
Duty
rather
than
having
due
regard
to
them.
D
So
that
means
that
they
have
to.
We
have
to
set
out
agreed
policies
and
specific
objectives
and
to
act
to
deliver
policies
and
objectives
there
and
we've
been
continuing
to
deliver
these
through
policy,
existing
policy
strategies
and
work
streams,
but
these
will
be
strengthened
through
the
delivery
of
a
new
biodiversity
strategy
which
I'll
come
on
to
later
next
item
in
October
2021,
the
council
declared
an
environment,
oh
sorry,
an
ecological
emergency
and
to
provide
greater
focus
on
protecting
and
enhancing
biodiversity
in
the
natural
environment.
D
The
response
to
the
Declaration
is
a
work
in
progress,
so
there's
already
existing
work
streams
that
we
carry
out
that
enable
ecological
issues
to
be
addressed,
such
as
the
local
plan,
working
with
conservation
groups
and
volunteers
to
you,
know,
engage
and
help
get
the
messages
across
the
about
the
importance
of
biodiversity
in
the
right
in
the
in
communities
and
then
also
delivering
works
on
ground.
So
things
like
the
biodiversity
Improvement
Zone
in
Hatch,
Warren
and
beckerwood-
it's
just
an
example
of
that.
D
So
Works
have
been
already
continual
on
that.
But
in
order
to
carry
on
and
fulfill
everything
within
the
ecological
emergency,
the
the
council
has
appointed
a
new
principal
ecology
and
biodiversity
officer,
and
they
are
currently
working
on
the
production
of
a
new
biodiversity
strategy,
and
that
is
again
a
piece
of
work
that
we've
been
doing
and
will
continue
for
the
rest
of
the
year.
D
One
of
the
I
suppose
in
terms
of
how
communities
are
engaged.
One
of
the
biggest
things
is
the
establishment
of
a
ranger
team
over
the
last
couple
of
years,
where
sort
of
like
various
resources
were
pulled
from
different
teams
within
the
council
to
work
together
to
provide
support
for
local
volunteers
and
conservation
groups
and
that's
their
focus.
D
So
these
are
largely
sort
of
like
weekly
monthly
work
events.
We
also
have
a
corporate
working
party
that
runs
or
parties
that
run
twice
a
week
between
September
and
April,
and
that's
amounted
to
over
1200
corporate
volunteer
hours
and,
in
addition,
Community
paybacks
also
provided
over
870
hours
worth
of
conservation
in
the
group
in
within
those
conservation
groups.
D
We've
seen
new
groups
started
at
Wigmore,
Heath
and
chineham
woods
and
there's
an
ongoing
drive
to
attract
new
people
to
get
involved
with
this,
and
we've
also
increase
the
resource
to
the
ranger
team
to
reflect
this
importance
of
it.
D
We've
also
carried
we're
also
carrying
on
with
our
program
of
declaring
local
nature
reserves
and
have
recently
declared
one
at
black,
Dam
and
Crabtree.
So
that
includes
the
ponds
where
the
motorway
spur
comes
off
at
Junction.
Six
there's
there's
some
ponds
within
Woodland
at
the
bottom
and
then
that
carries
on
up
to
crap
to
the
open
space
in
Woodland
at
Crabtree
Plantation
and
that's
been
declared
as
a
local
nature
reserve,
given
its
ecological
importance
and
also
its
role
in
providing
space
for
people
to
enjoy
ecological,
a
beauties
of
the
borough.
D
Also,
we
have
been
involved
in
delivering
a
lot
of
projects
on
site.
As
councilor
Tomlin
mentioned,
we've
implemented
projects
totaling
over
a
million
pounds
funded
by
a
capital
program
and
developer
contributions.
So
we've
seen
improvements
across
a
number
of
sites,
including
Stratton
Park,
moat
Park
in
chinum,
Kingsmill,
Road
and
Radford
Gardens
in
Grove,
lifeford
Road
in
Northern,
and
also
white,
ditch
open
space
and
winklebury
playing
fields.
D
So
these
have
included
new
areas
of
tree,
shrub
bulb
and
Wildflower
planting,
as
well
as
new
benches
signs
and
bins,
and
other
Street
Furniture
provision
to
allow
people
to
enjoy
those
areas.
More
and
to
improve
their
appearance
and
Wildlife
value,
we've
also
seen
a
replacement
play
area
at
basing
lime
pits
which
was
completed
a
few
weeks
ago,
and
the
initial
feedback
that
we've
had
from
people
is
quite
positive
about
that
it's
a
site.
That's
had
a
number
of
issues
over
the
site
over
the
sorry
over
time
and
hope
this
is
providing
them.
D
D
We've
also
been
looking
at
a
master
plan
for
a
network
of
green
spaces
towards
the
east
of
basing
Stone,
including
East,
Rock,
Park,
War,
Memorial,
Park,
Black,
Diamond
Crabtree,
the
base
in
common
millfield
and
the
lime
pits,
and
that's
a
high
level
master
plan
that
looks
at
the
potential
that
we
could
release
from
those
areas
based
on
three
main
areas
of
focus.
So,
firstly,
looking
at
biodiversity
within
them
how
we
could
protect
and
enhance
that
the
facilities
within
some
of
those
spaces.
D
There
are
some
spaces
where
facilities
are
quite
tired
and
out
of
date,
so
looking
at
you
know
how
we
can
improve
those
and
the
third
thing
that
this
is
quite
important.
There
is
sort
of
like
connections
between
them.
D
Quite
often
it's
you
know,
paths
and
routes
between
them
quite
difficult
to
navigate,
but
in
order
to
help
people
use
the
areas.
One
of
the
ideas
is
that
we
look
to
improve
those
connections.
D
The
biodiversity
Improvement
Zone
at
hatch,
Warren
and
beggarwood
has
continued.
So
we've
been
running
that
for
three
years
now
and
we're
starting
to
get
a
better
idea
on
how
we
might
be
able
to
manage
things
differently
to
improve
biodiversity.
So
what
happened?
There
was
there.
The
whole
number
of
Road
verges
and
small
Open
Spaces,
where
we
change
the
management
to
them.
It's
essentially
we
rather
than
cutting
them
every
on
a
frequent
monthly
or
three
weekly
basis.
We
sort
of
like
left
the
cutting
to
once
a
year
to
see
what
would
grow.
D
So
after
the
first
year,
we
did
a
survey
and
there
was
about
150,
odd,
different
species
that
went
up
to
about
200
or
so
species.
We've
had
a
lower
number
of
species
there
this
year,
partly
or
last
year,
partly
due
to
the
drought
last
summer,
but
the
whole
process
has
been
very
good
in
terms
of
giving
us
ideas
on
how
we
might
best
manage
land
and
how
potentially
we
could
roll
it
out
in
other
parts
of
the
borough
and
then
finally,
but
not
least,
council's
got
a
huge
tree.
E
D
That
we
are
responsible
for
managing
and
these
are
trees
on
Council
land.
So
we
are
going
through
a
world
inspection
program
where
we
look
at
trees
and
address
dead,
dying
and
dangerous
issues.
On-Site,
so
we've
been
working
in
Hatch
Warren
and
begwood
Buckskin
Southampton
Brooks
down
tadley
Brighton,
Hill,
Sherborne,
St,
John,
evanger
and
winklebury
this
year,
and
within
that
work
and
across
the
wider
implementation
of
parks
and
Open
Spaces
Improvement,
we've
sort
of
like
planted.
D
You
know
about
1700
new
trees
over
the
year,
so
this
year
these
last
two
years
have
been
quite
busy
and
it's
going
to
continue
as
kind
of
Tomlin
highlighted
we're
in
the
middle
of
looking
at
producing
a
new
biodiversity
strategy
which
we're
underway
with,
and
that
will
include
involvement
with
members
over
the
next
month
or
so.
D
For
what
we're
looking
to
do
is
get
it
presented
and
approved
by
the
end
of
the
financial
year.
There
will
be
the
requirements
of
the
environment
Act
that
details
are
coming
out
slowly
from
defra
as
to
what
would
be
required
to
do,
and
we
can
we'll
be
adding
to
that.
D
As
things
go,
we'll
be
looking
to
update
the
Council
Tree
policy
and
then
this
GI
strategy-
we
that
was
that
was
first
approved
five
years
ago
and
and
a
great
amount
has
changed
in
that
time
in
terms
of
things
like
the
environment
act,
sort
of
like
processes,
for
you
know,
developing
and
managing
and
monitoring
green
infrastructure
has
changed
as
well
and
improved.
So
one
of
the
things
we'll
be
looking
to
do
this
year
is
scoping
out
a
potential.
D
You
know
revised
grid
infrastructure
strategy
which
we
will
look
to
sort
of
like
roll
out
or
develop
in
more
detail
next
financial
year,
then
there's
the
business
as
usual,
work
of
looking
dealing
with
planning
applications
and
making
sure
that
green
infrastructure
issues
are
addressed
and
provided
for
within
them,
and
the
development
of
schemes
on
site
and
then
engaging
with
partners
and
volunteers
to
support
this.
So
that
is
really
what
we're
up
to.
A
A
Thank
you,
that's
brilliant.
Firstly,
should
we
open
to
questions
importantly,
quite
happy
I'm
sure
to
deal
with
any
encounter
Tomlin
might
want
to
interview
as
well.
So
has
anyone
got
a
question?
Can't
you
discuss
yeah.
F
Yeah,
thank
you
really
just
an
update
on
what's
Happening
I
can
never
say
this
word
carbon,
this
carbon
sequestration,
because,
and
is
that
going
to
be
taken
forward
sooner
rather
than
later,
because
that
should
be
quite
well
Advanced
already
that
area
of
work
and
there's
some
quick
wins
in
there
and
it
could
be
done
quite
soon.
D
F
So
the
Easter
bays
in
Stoke,
because
I
know
I
appreciate
that
is
high
level
I've
seen
quite
a
bit
of
it
and
I
appreciate
that
you
know
I
think
it's
a
good
plan,
but
it's
the
funding
opportunities,
isn't
it.
So
what
are
the
next
steps?
Is
that
being
taken
forward
in
that
regard,
and
are
you
looking
at
funding
opportunities
for
that.
C
Yes,
indeed,
we
are,
in
fact
we
had
a
presentation
to
the
cabinet.
The
initial
plans
I
think
it
was
yesterday.
Wasn't
it
yeah
yeah
so
put
talking
to
the
Consultants
who
who
have
prepared
the
the
the
the
master
plan
for
us
it's
talking
about
putting
up?
Well,
we
are
talking
with
them
about
putting
a
bid
into
the
national
lottery.
C
The
well
I
mean
the
problem
with
the
national
lottery
is,
is
a
lottery
whether
you
get
your
Grant
or
not,
but
we
appear
to
have
missed
the
deadline
for
the
summer,
so
we
wouldn't
know
about
the
funding
success
until
I
think
it
was
April
or
something
next
year.
So
it's
one
of
these
things.
We've
got
to
look
at
something
to
move
forward,
so
what
we're
thinking
of
doing
is
looking
at
starting
with
estrop
Park
and
the
plans
there
and
focus
on
that
one.
C
So
we
still
want
the
lottery
funding,
but
some
of
these
are
quite
long-term
timelines
with
needing
to
get
planning
needing
to
obviously
get
funding
in
place.
So
in
a
nutshell,
we're
at
early
stages,
and
we
have
to
find
quite
a
large
sum
of
money
to
do
that.
But
it's
the
lottery
funding
is
a
big
one
at
the
moment,
but
we're
looking
for
others
I'm
going
to
read
Paul
you've
got
any
other
comment
on
that.
D
C
D
He
covered
it
quite
comprehensively,
really
yeah
that
HLF
funding
is
going
to
be
a
key
part
of
this
and
we're
looking
to
see
if
we
can
make
a
a
bid
as
part
of
that,
but
very
early
days
on
that,
but
obviously
we'll
be
keeping
people
updated
as
and
when
that
progresses.
F
No
thank
you.
That's
helpful.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
it
was
a
project
that
obviously
was
started
and
there
you
are
it's
something
that
you're
seeing
through
and
then
one
last
question
that
I
made
any
comments
or
any
plans
for
Saunders
field.
If
anything
is
happening
with
there,
if
that's
going
to
be
used,
there's
a
nature
is
therefore.
C
Right
I
mean
I
think
we
would
love
to
do
everything
everywhere.
In
fact,
I
went
for
a
walk
in
saundersfield.
Well,
it's
not
really
described
as
a
walk,
it's
more
like
machetes
at
dawn,
because
it's
about
six
to
eight
foot
high
in
in
Weeds,
but
we
took
the
rivers.
C
What
was
it
lodden
catchment
partnership
with
us
to
advise
us,
but
we
we
found
where
the
where
we
believe
the
the
depression
where
the
water
would
be
was
and
we
walked
along
as
it
became
more
more
of
a
stream,
but
it's
fully
overgrown.
So
the
point
is
it's
now
to
assess
it,
so
we
need
to
look
at
a
program
of
work
of
looking
at
that,
because
there's
a
catch-22
there
I
think
one
is
you:
can
we
get
it
classified
as
a
special
area?
We
want
to
protect
it.
C
G
C
Moment
it's
early
days
and
the
answer
to
the
question
is
on
the
agenda.
But
a
little
while
away.
A
H
Chair
and
thanks
for
a
great
report,
Paul.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
I,
don't
know
if
these
questions
are
for
you
or
for
cancer
Tom
then,
but
we
also
find
out
as
far
as
planning
issues
are
concerned,
which
was
more
or
less
your
summing
up
issue,
and
this
might
be
to
you
councilor
Tomlin,.
H
It's
gone.
The
previous
cabinet
allowed
nitrate
offsetting,
which
doesn't
help
the
natural
environment
in
specific
areas,
especially
in
the
river
test
enrichment
catchment
areas.
Is
there
any
plans
to
reverse
that
decision.
C
C
C
H
Sorry
there
was
one
more
it's
a
it's
an
observation,
we're
having
a
question:
we've
come
in
for
some
criticism
from
nationally
from
Chris
backerman,
environmentalists
and
social
media
traffic
about
our
lack
of
ecological
support
at
development
control.
C
Well,
a
bit
of
an
advert
on
August,
the
2nd
at
6
30
PM.
We
have
the
all
member
briefing
on
the
biodiversity
strategy
now,
therefore,
I'm
suggesting
an
education
program.
We
need,
let's
put
it
this
way
for
the
last
eight
weeks
or
so
I've
been
exposed
to
some
in
in
the
planning
world.
We
used
to
get
on
the
bus
on
a
Friday
and
go
out
and
have
a
look
around
the
borough
fabulous.
The
borough
is
enormous
and
it's
full
of
everything.
C
It's
it's
wonderful
I'll
now
be
looking
at
sort
of
insects
and
and
flowers
in
a
smaller
area,
it's
just
as
exciting
and
complex,
but
there
is
quite
a
lot
of
understanding,
because
biodiversity
is
is
very
much
a
science
as
well.
As
you
know,
the
pure
nature
side
of
it
and
understanding
what
you
can
do
and
what
you
can't
do
and
very
much.
C
There
is
a
metric.
That's
used
for
biodiversity
net
gain
as
a
formula
and
it's
prescribed
and
it's
fed
to
us
and
that's
what
we
have
to
do
and
clearly
a
lot
of
it
is
judgmental.
So
in
terms
of
that
particular
incident
that
you
were
talking
about
that
made
the
Press
I
mean
they're
all
already
sorry.
There
are
always
two
sides
to
a
story,
but
now
is
not
necessarily
the
time
to
go
into
it,
but
there
is
guidance
and
that's.
C
The
point
is
guidance
at
the
moment
when
it
becomes
kind
of
statutory
as
it's
getting
firmer
in
planning
policy,
then
you
know
members
will
I
wouldn't
say,
take
it
more
into
account,
but
it's
always
a
judgment
thing
and
I.
Think,
unfortunately,
that
particular
episode
was
slightly
skewed,
shall
I
say
but
all
in
defense,
but
the
answer
is
we
do
listen
to
the
biodiversity
officers,
it's
something
we
have
to
do.
H
Thank
you
one
more
chance.
Thank
you
and
I
do
want
to
raise
this
at
CP,
I've
spoken
to
councilor
Tomlin
in
private,
about
it
and
I
I
do
want
to
be
a
parochial
like
Council
who
just
was
about
saundersville.
H
The
closure
of
Paul's
paper
mill
in
Overton
has
a
significant
effect
on
the
natural
environment
in
terms
of
water
being
taken
out
of
the
of
the
aquifer
at
the
test
and
how
it's
impacted
on
the
local
environment
and
there
are
very
protected
species
there
that
that
deep,
protected
and
we've
just
had
incidents
of
otters
being
seen
there
and
I.
Think
that
issue
needs
really
to
see.
Is
it
going
to
be?
Could
it
be
a
nature
reserve?
C
Yes
and
I
agree:
I,
I,
you're
right,
we've
spoken,
we've,
we've,
we've,
we've
we've
had
a
site
visit
and
had
a
look
I
mean
there's
great
opportunity.
Clearly
there
are
a
number
of
hurdles,
it's
not
our
land.
So
that's
all!
Well,
it's
not
a
rule.
It's
the
way
it
has
to
be
at
the
moment.
We
can't
influence
what
isn't
ours,
but
if
somehow
we
could
work
on
getting
some
of
that
to
work.
C
C
It
that
15
million
liters
has
found
ways
out
of
the
ground
all
over
Overton
and
it
used
to
go
through
settlement
beds
like
a
lot.
I
would
call
them
Lakes,
they
weren't
very
deep,
but
they
were.
They
were
deep
enough,
but
they
were
light.
So
it
was
a
really
good
wild,
wildfowl,
Natural,
Area
and,
of
course,
they've
turned
the
water
off
and
now
it
isn't.
C
This
is
a
great
opportunity
and
there's
some
some
excitement,
but
we
have
to
be
I,
think
Vigilant
of
what
happens
to
the
portal
site
and
absolutely
I
think
it's
a
it
ties
in
with
our
biodiversity
Net
game.
If
someone
was
going
to
do
something
to
that
side,
I
don't
know,
but
maybe
that's
a
bargaining
or
a
way
out
that
we
could
use
it.
C
A
H
A
Council
for
them,
or
if
you
you
want
it
on
the
committee
as
obviously
you
can
ask
for
it
to
be
on
the
committee
as
a
member
and
please
do
so
make
sure
that
it
gets
in
on
the
work
program,
yeah,
councilor,
Goldie
next
time.
Thank
you.
I
My
question
is:
where
is
Old
down
in
this
strategy?
It's
we
voted
as
a
whole
Council
unanimously
to
make
it
a
nature
reserve,
so
I
have
to
say
I'm
really
disappointed
that
it's
not
in
your
priorities
for
this
year.
In
order
to
actually
achieve
that,
it's
massively
important,
it's
so
significant
for
the
residents
down
living
in
the
new
communities
along
the
a30
in
my
ward
residents
in
Camp
short
residents
in
Hatch,
Warren
and
beggarwood
is
so
well
used.
D
Within
the
update,
we
have
to
say
one
of
the
priorities
this
year
is
Declaration
of
local
nature
reserves.
Continuing
the
program
for
delivering
them
across
the
borough.
D
I
Okay,
that
is
good,
I,
think
it
would
be
nice
to
see
it
named
either
by
the
portfolio
holder
or
or
in
there,
because
it
has
been,
as
I
said
fully.
You
know,
approved
by
Council
that
that
should
be
a
piece
of
work
that
we
prioritize.
Is
there
a
timeline
for
that.
D
Again,
that
is
something
that
we're
trying
to
finalize
at
the
moment
how
we
progress
that
I
mean
typically
local
nature,
reserve
decorations
will
take
about
18
months
to
go
through
the
whole
process
of
kind
of,
like
of
that's
how
we
found
it
takes
the
time
to
get
involved
in
terms
of
doing
the
you
know:
site
assessment,
the
the
consultation,
the
working
with
natural
England
to
to
you
know,
sign
off
management
plans
and
stuff
like
that
now
I'm
saying
18
months.
D
There
are
elements
within
that
that
you
know
we
might
be
able
to
sort
of
like
shorten
so
where
we
can
do,
we
will
do.
C
Months,
let
me
just
make
one
answer:
you're,
probably
aware
in
the
papers
tomorrow
there's
a
question
at
full:
Council
I
will
give
you
an
answer
then,
because
so
like
you
have
to
you'll,
have
to
turn
up.
B
Thank
you,
chair,
I'll,
put
three
quick
ones
together
in
the
progress
and
action
plan.
There
is
reference
at
the
bottom
of
night,
a
page
19
of
28
to
Woodland
management.
B
It
does
say
that
it's
not
yet
got
going,
but
I
was
a
bit
surprised
to
see
that
it's
about
utilization
of
Woodland
through
the
production
of
Timber,
Products
and
wood,
fuel
and
I
would
just
like
some
comments
about
how
that's
going
to
help
us
when
that's
releasing
the
carbon
back
into
the
atmosphere.
If
we
burn
it
also,
I
was
a
little
bit
surprised
under
Section,
seven
in
the
narrative
under
the
equalities
implication.
B
There
wasn't
reference
to
access
to
our
green
spaces
for
people
with
mobility
issues,
I
appreciate
it
is
talked
about
briefly.
You
know
as
bullet
points
in
the
index
of
strategic
priorities,
but
that
equality
is
implication
that
act.
I
I
was
surprised
not
to
see
some
specific
reference
there
to
the
work
that
we
shouldn't
need
to
be
doing
to
make
sure
that
all
our
green
spaces
are
accessible.
B
I'm
gonna
find
a
little
one,
I,
don't
know
whether,
under
the
reference
somewhere
other,
where
you're
talking
about
supporting
accessibility
to
knowledge,
the
public
to
GI
information,
which
is
on
page
15
of
28
in
the
action
plan,
mechanisms
for
monitoring
biodiversity
and
improving
accessibility
to
the
public
to
GI
information.
B
D
Okay,
thanks
very
much
in
response
to
each
of
those
in
respect
for
the
wood
fuel.
This
green
infrastructure
strategy
was
developed
in
2018
five
years
ago.
Obviously,
a
lot
has
happened
in
that
time.
In
terms
of
you
know
acknowledging
the
impacts
of
releasing
carbon
and
those
impacts
on
the
environment.
D
Clearly,
when
we
we
look
at
this,
it
will
be
something
that
we'll
be
looking
at.
In
light
of,
you
know
current
advice
and
priorities.
So
when
we
do
look
at
that,
we
will
have
to
acknowledge
that
you
know,
where
is
the
balance
between
you
know,
looking
at
wood
fuel,
or
is
that
outweighed
by
the
impacts
on
the
environment?
So
it's
something
that
we
will
need
to
consider
as
part
of
that
in
terms
of
accessibility.
D
Clearly,
that
is
something
that,
when
we
have
the
management
plans
for
parks-
and
we
do
look
at
developments
and
where
we
put
new
facilities
into
Parks
accessibility
is
one
of
the
key
things
that
we
look
at
I
mean
as
an
example
play
areas
new
play
areas
that
we
delivered
quite
often
include
facilities
for
people
with
access,
accessibility
issues,
and
indeed,
we've
put
some
like
panels
up
in
up
at
the
lime
pits
that
sort
of
like
help,
people
with
communication
issues
so
like
talk
and
sort
of
like
direct
where
they
want
to
go
in
those
play
areas
and
we've
received
some
really
nice
feedback
from
residents
about
how
that
how
that's
been
used.
D
That's
good
mechanisms
for
improving
communication,
yeah
Qi
codes,
that's
something
that
we
are
looking
at
in
terms
of.
Certainly
it
might
be
something
that
becomes
more
usable
in
terms
of
where
we
Implement
players
and
also
interpretation
panels
and
boards
that
we
put
up
within
parks
and
Open
Spaces
that
we
manage.
B
Thank
you,
so
personally,
I
would
like
an
undertaking
that
we
won't
be
burning
products
from
our
fuel
stocks
to
release
carbon
back
in
I
think
we
need
to
find
other
ways
of
using
our
woods
and
I'm
sure
we
can
so
I
I
would
like
to
see
that
removed
and
yes,
I've
been
working
with
our
excellent
play,
Park
folk
on
how
to
make
our
playgrounds
more
accessible,
particularly
for
site,
disabled
children
and
and
there's
some
really
good
stuff
out
there,
but
I
think
that
misses
the
point.
B
A
lot
of
our
green
spaces
are
about
the
copses,
The
Woodlands,
all
sorts
of
areas
like
that,
where
we
need
to
be
thinking
more
about
accessibility,
it's
not
just
about
play
parks.
It
is
about
saying
whenever
we
visit
something
that
is
part
of
our
green
infrastructure,
we
need
to
be
thinking
how
do
people
access
this,
who
have
mobility
issues
of
whatever
kind
that
is
and
I
feel
that
that
does
not
get
enough
prominence
in
this
document
at
the
moment.
Thank
you.
J
Thank
you,
I
just
want
to
just
want
appendix
One,
Number
27
says
lobbying
of
Hampshire
Public
Health
body.
Could
you
just
tell
me
what
that
would
involve?
Please.
D
Foreign,
as
mentioned
the
in
in
that
element
of
the
green
infrastructure
strategy,
that's
an
Amber
at
the
moment
because
we
do
need
to
do
more
work
with
the
health
health
bodies
to
see
how
our
parks
and
open
spaces
can
help
to
contribute
towards
Health.
Improvement
I
mean
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that
we
do
already
in
the
Parks
and
Open
Spaces,
like
provision
of
like
outdoor
gym
equipment.
D
You
know
providing
Open
Spaces
that
people
can
get
around
do
help
contribute
to
that
I
mean
you
know
many
parts
and
open
spaces
around
the
borough.
You
see
people
using
them,
for
you
know
running,
you
know,
walking,
cycling
and
other
health
activities,
so
I'll
be
looking
to
build
on
those.
But
you
know
whether
or
not
there's
any
direct
link
that
we
can
make
with
the
health
bodies
that
might
take
that
even
further.
C
Just
a
comment
chair:
there
is
a
little
incentive
in
Bramley
or
I
think
in
brand
new,
some
fellowship
walks
and
that's
incredibly
good
for
all
aspects
of
mental
well-being
and
even
physical
well-being.
There
are
different
groups
who
walk
at
different
speeds,
but
providing
the
places
to
walk,
and
one
of
the
problems
is
there's
not
so
many
places
to
walk
that.
Don't
involve
roads
and
footpaths,
so
it
all
is
part
and
parcel
of
of
that.
So
you
know
things
are
starting
that
was
done
by
a
community,
but
it's
like
things
like
that.
A
You
were
actually
talking
about
the
land
at
the
Borough
Council
land
and
what
you
haven't
actually
included
is
the
fact
that
there's
an
awful
lot
of
land,
that
town
and
parishes
in
the
rural
areas
run
and
provide
Leisure
facilities
and
play
areas,
and
things
like
that,
many
of
which
obviously
can't
benefit
from
section
106
money
because
they
don't
have
any
building.
And
the
fact
is
that
we've
lost
the
ability
to
bid
for
environmental
improvements,
because
we
no
longer
have
a
grant
scheme
to
do
that.
A
Would
you
consider
that,
as
part,
obviously,
your
by
the
diversity
strategy,
shouldn't
I
believe
only
cover
Borough
Council
land,
but
other
than
that?
You
talk
about
engaging
with
other
groups,
but
I
know
that
there
are
groups
in
mayo,
for
example,
that
actually
do
an
awful
lot
of
work
on
them,
that
isn't
for
a
council
but
they're
not
included
in
your
figures,
because
you
haven't
got
the
knowledge
of
that
without
engaging
with
them.
So
would
you
broaden
it
a
little
bit
when
you
you're
thinking
about
that?
A
C
You
chair,
the
answer
is
I.
Think
yes,
we'd
love
to
it's
a
bit
running
before
you
can
walk
in
the
sense.
We
can
only
influence
at
the
moment
the
land
that
we
have
control
over
and
I
think
as
a
second
stage,
once
we've
started
to
get
the
strategy
together.
For
that
then
yes,
I
think
we
there'll
be
no
reason
why
we
shouldn't
look
at
other
other
areas
and
then
the
funding
question
comes
in.
C
As
you
said,
however,
it's
it,
you
know
it's
only
money,
but
you
know
to
me
it's
something
we
can
look
at,
but
it
will
I
think
have
to
be
a
second
priority
because
we
just
can't
muscle
into
people's
land
as
it
were
and
demand
our
strategy.
But
it
is
something
we
need
to
implement
and
we
need
to
look
at.
That's
for
sure.
A
So
obviously,
there
are
areas
as
you
can
see
from
the
report
where
there
are
zero
things
been
added
and
I.
Think
that's
a
shame,
because
I'm
sure
there
are
places
in
all
those
communities
that
could
benefit
from
some
environmental
improvements.
C
K
Yeah,
thanks
for
your
presentation,
brilliant.
Thank
you.
I'm
unashamedly
parochial
in
my
approach
to
these
I'm,
a
health
Improvement
type
of
person
and
I
was
immediately
drawn
to
the
the
Amber
in
the
performance
framework.
K
D
17.
right,
okay,
sorry
about
that
found
it
found
it
now,
yeah,
that's
something
that
we
do
need
to
to
develop.
Covid
has
slowed
things
down,
but
that
is
an
area
that
we
do
need
to
look
at,
how
we
make
those
links
with
those
groups
and
develop
a
working
partnership
with
them
to
deliver
things.
So,
yes,
it
is
something
we
do
need
to
deliver
still.
K
E
Thank
you
more
of,
and
maybe
a
request
or
a
statement
than
a
question
per
se,
I
think
it's
useful
having
the
red
Amber
green
statuses.
What
would
be
useful
for
a
further
update,
though,
is
what
was
it
previously
versus?
What
is
it
now
so
that
we
can
see
any
slippage
just
in
case,
if
that's
okay,.
A
I
I
think
I've
probably
already
made
it,
but
I
will
express
my
enthusiasm
for
seeing
old
down
named
in
the
priorities
for
this
year
and
look
forward
to
a
timeline
tomorrow.
E
I've
sort
of
backing
councilman
her
Point
around
accessibility
for
disabled
people,
specifically
those
blind,
but
for
myself
I,
have
a
daughter
who
uses
a
wheelchair
and
it
does
become
you
know
in
wintertime.
It
can
become
hard
for
her
to
access
any
of
the
outdoors.
If
we
think
about
Crabtree
in
the
winter
time,
it's
mainly
the
the
path
itself,
which
then
restricts
where
she
can
go
to
explore
nature.
E
If
I
think
of
the
spinny
around
Rooks
down.
For
some
reason,
they
felt
necessary
to
throw
a
load
of
chippings
down
to
make
it
more
accessible
to
people.
You
know
a
little
less
uneven,
but
it
just
means
it
catches
in
the
wheels
of
my
daughter's
wheelchair
and
makes
it
hard
going
to
to
access
the
spinny,
which
is
right
on
our
store
on
our
doorstep.
So
having
those
considerations
for
for
The,
Wider
Outdoors,
but
also
scope,
are
also
doing
a
let's
play
fair
campaign
and
about
inclusive
play
parks.
E
So
I'd
be
Keen
for
officers
on
the
cabinet
relevant
Cabinet
member
to
to
explore
how
they
can
get
involved
with
that
campaign
and
potentially
bring
scope
in
to
have
a
conversation
about
making
our
areas
more
accessible
for
those
with
disabilities.
J
Thank
you
and
building
on
what
Alex
has
just
said.
I
think
toilets
are
really
important.
J
I
know
they're
a
pain
to
build
in
a
pain
to
clean,
but
they
are
so
important,
particularly
for
older
people
and
disabled
people.
Otherwise
they
simply
can't
use
the
spaces.
I
have
a
couple
of
other
comments.
Please
the
tree
policy
I'm
a
huge
fan
of
trees.
We
have
a
lot
of
them
in
winklebury.
J
We
also
have
a
lot
of
problems
with
MIM,
winkleberry
and
I
was
talking
to
councilor
Volks
just
now
about
there's
lots
of
protection
in
the
in
the
council,
for
the
trees
and
for
the
buildings,
but
not
so
much
for
the
people.
So
when
it
comes
to
a
tree,
that's
getting
bigger
and
bigger
and
bigger,
and
it's
completely
over
overhanging
somebody's
garden,
and
they
say
what
do
I
do
about
it
and
the
answer
is
we
can't
cut
it
back
because
then
it'll
just
grow
more
bit
more
vigorously
and
then
in
know.
J
What
are
we
going
to
do?
Are
we
going
to
let
it
continue
for
the
next
20
years
getting
bigger
it?
It
would
be
great
to
start
thinking
this
through,
because
it's
going
to
get
a
bigger
prob
become
a
bigger
problem
for
basing
Stone
rather
than
a
smaller
one.
But
I
am
a
huge
fan
of
trees
and
it's
great
that
you're
planting
them.
J
Please
could
we
engage
with
local
landowners
and
Farmers
more
because
there's
so
much
that
they
could
do
and
so
much
that
they
used
to
do,
but
many
of
them
aren't
doing
it
anymore
and
particularly
things
like
scorching
the
ground
and
you
know,
whereas
they
could
allow
those
the
edges
of
fields
for
wildlife
and
the
last
thing
is
hang
on
a
minute.
Just
checking
yeah
and
the
last
thing
is
greater
engagement.
J
You've,
you've
made
a
space,
I,
think
it's
number
23
and
the
quality
of
green
space,
and
just
going
back
to
something
that
was
said
earlier
about
the
the
small
spaces.
You
know
particularly
thinking
in
winkleberry
places
like
Kenilworth
Road,
where
we've
got
lots
of
small
spaces
that
people
look
out
on
all
day
every
day
because
they
are
in
the
middle
of
their
houses,
but
they
get
unkempt.
You
know
they
were.
J
They
were
built
decades
ago
with
shrubs
that
that
now
don't
need
to
be
there
anymore
and
and
for
people
that
walk
out
onto
that
every
single
day
and
look
at
it
from
their
window
every
single
day.
It's
something
that
would
make
a
huge
difference.
J
Even
if
we
had
a
slightly
Innovative
approach
about
getting
the
community
to
take
some
sort
of
ownership
of
working
out
what
to
do
with
it,
it
would
be
brilliant
if
we
could,
if
we
could
deal
with
that,
and
so
the
the
last
point
I
wanted
to
make
going
back
to
the
tree
thing.
J
Lots
of
it's
good
to
hear
developers
saying
that
they
want
to
build,
want
to
plant
more
trees,
talking
to
Carla
homes,
for
example
at
wording
house.
They
were
saying
we
want
to
plant
a
tree
in
every
Garden,
which
is
a
lovely
aspiration
but
I'm
just
hoping
that
we're
making
sure
that
they
plant
the
right
trees
in
the
right
places
so
that
we
don't
end
up
with
the
problems
we've
got
in
winkleberry
again.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you
chair.
Just
the
biodiversity
Improvement
Zone
as
a
as
a
demonstration
for
how
we
might
manage
other
areas
in
the
borough.
I
would
encourage
us
to
rapidly
expand
that
as
fast
as
possible
to
to
cover
as
much
of
the
wire
as
we
possibly
can,
because
projects
like
this
are
hugely
important
for
maintaining
I
mean
as
their
own.
G
A
Thank
you
any
other
comments.
Are
you
happy
to
accept
the
note
at
the
end?
No
one
has
anything
furthest
about
it.
Okay,
so
if
they,
what
we
need
to
do
with
the
recommendation.
Is
the
committee
to
note
the
work
undertaking
during
years
three
and
four
of
the
green
infrastructure
strategy?
2018..
Are
you
happy
to
agree
exactly
thank
you
and
thank
you
very
much
for
coming
along
Council,
Tomlin
and
Mr
Johnson.
A
The
announcement
that
we
have
got
a
workshop
came
out
yesterday
by
email
yesterday
morning
and
that's
on
the
2nd
of
August
at
6
30.,
so
everyone
is
invited
to
attend
that
all
members
and
where
we
will
talk
about
the
biodiversity
strategy
and
I'm
sure
there'll
be
lots
of
input.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation
for
your
time
and
until
this
evening
and
I'm
sure
that
we
welcome
the
next
update,
which
will
be
coming
along
in
a
few
months
soon.
Thank
you.
A
Okay
right,
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
work
work
program
which
is
in
before
you.
There
have
been
some
things
added
at
committee's
briefings
and
their
work
program
is
in
front
of
you
and
everyone
got
any
questions
about
the
work
program
or
comments.
It's
Council,
the.
E
So
I
think
you
may
not
have
seen
your
emails
today.
Councilor
Compton
Burnett
has
raised
or
requested
that
the
well-being
strategy
come
forward
to
the
committee
alongside
oh
turning
that
into
a
health
and
wellbeing
strategy,
rather
than
just
the
well-being,
I
think
personally,
I
think
they
work
in
tandem
together.
A
Yeah
I
fully
agree:
Council
Lee,
I've
spoken
to
councilor
Makai
about
it.
Unfortunately,
he's
not
available
today
and
I
know
that
we're
going
to
be
discussing
this
and
talking
to
bva
about
other
things
attached
to
it.
So
there
is
work
going
and
yes,
it
isn't
in
the
program
because
it
didn't
come
up
at
the
meeting,
but
obviously
we
do
appreciate
so
it
will
be
in
the
program
as
soon
as
it
can
be
ready
to
go.
Okay,
any
other
questions,
oh
thank
you.
Councilman
Council,.
B
Thanks
chair
just
two
things:
I
was
surprised
that
the
Leisure
Park
and
the
aquadrome
isn't
coming
until
January,
which
I
presume
is
January
2024,
it
does
say
January
2023,
but
I'm
presuming
it
means
next
year.
That
seems
a
heck
of
a
long
time
ahead
and
I
wondered
if
it
was
possible
to
bring
that
forward.
B
So
cep
can
have
some
interaction
about
shaping
that
and
Community
safety.
We
usually
have
at
cep
a
really
interesting
interaction
with
our
community
safety
team
and
a
representative
of
our
local
police
force,
which
is
really
really
helpful,
I
think
in
bringing
together
award
issues
and
Community
safety
and
our
local
police
force
so
it'd
be
lovely
to
see
that
and
forward
agenda
as
well.
I.
A
Think
they
actually
had
a
meeting
just
before
this
earlier
this
year
with
the
police
people's
attended.
Yes,
so
yes
I'm
sure
that
will
be
something
that
people
will
welcome
again.
I
know
that
certain
people
are
looking
for
anti-social
behavior,
for
example,
and
that
might
be
part
of
it
as
well
and
obviously
we're
very
among
the
comments
that
you've
made
and
I
I.
Don't
know
why
the
Leisure
Park
has
been
put
back
but
I
think
it's,
because
there's
lots
of
work
still
being
done
on
it
and
I.
A
F
You
chair,
I'd,
like
to
see
anything
I,
don't
know
where
there
isn't
and
there's
nothing
to
do
with
waste
and
recycling
on
here
and
given
where
we
are
with
the
Circo
contract,
the
project
plan
for
re-tendering
that
or
not
or
all
the
different
options.
There.
Everything
that's
going
on
with
county
in
relation
to
the
changes
of
government
and
there's
a
hell
of
a
lot
going
on
in
this
committee
should
be
part
of
that,
and
it's
a
huge
thing,
and
it's
not
just
going
to
be
one
paper.
F
A
And
I
understand
they
are
talking
about
the
contract
with
serco
and
there
will
be
obviously
papers
coming
forward,
but
I
don't
think
again.
We've
got
a
time
frame
for
that.
Yet,
but
as
soon
as
there
is
something
that
will
come
forward,
I'm
so
Mr
Payne
will
be
able
to
whether
that
how
long
that
is
away,
but
again
that's
going
to
be
something
that
will
go
to
cabinet
and
then
we
can
obviously
could
scrutinize
this
as
well.
Hey.
F
A
H
A
J
You
just
two
quick
things
on
the
program
of
work
right
at
the
bottom.
It
says
health
and
wellbeing,
social
Care
Partners
is
that
covered
in
the
health
and
wellbeing
strategy
that
we
were
just
talking
about
before
brilliant.
Thank
you
and
the
other
thing
is
in
the
in
the
last
meeting
we
and
it's
it's
minuted.
J
It
was
suggested
that
full
list
of
policies
and
strategies
scheduled
for
review
by
the
committee
would
be
useful.
It
would
be
great
if
we
could
have
that
list.
Even
if
there
aren't
any
dates
on
it,
it
would
be
lovely
to
see
what
was
coming
up.
So
we
could
start
doing
some
homework.
A
A
Turn
it
off
any
other
questions.
Any
other
comments.
Are
you
happy
to
accept
the
word
program
that
has
presented
with
some
obviously
questions
about
additions
that
we
will
add
to
as
they
come
along?
Okay,
right,
I,
don't
believe
there
were
any
urgent
matters
this
evening.
A
So
I
think
that
is
the
end
of
the
meeting
and
thank
you
all
for
coming
and
have
a
good
summer,
because
we
won't
meet
again
there
until
I
think
it's
the
13th
of
September,
which
seems
an
awful
long
way
away,
but
obviously
we
will
meet
tomorrow
as
the
council
for
the
council
meeting.
So
thank
you
very
much
this
evening
and
for
being
a
very
well
behaved
and
polite
committee.
Thank
you
very
much.