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From YouTube: Beacon Workshop-meeting 8 7 23
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The City of Beacon Workshop and meeting from August 7, 2023
A
B
B
So
this
first
piece
of
business
is
a
workshop
and
that'll
last
through
the
end
of
the
workshop
and
then
we'll
start
up
a
formal
meeting,
and
so
in
the
summer
we're
running
our
workshops
and
meetings
at
the
same
time.
So
the
workshop,
we
don't
do
a
formal
pledge
or
role
but
I
do
observe
everybody
here,
except
George.
Who's
excused
is
Nick
on
the
line
remote
or
someone
I.
B
I
see
the
city
administrator.
All
right
first
item
is
the
appointment
of
Liz
cloud
cloud
to
the
position
of
account
clerk
typist
Chris
is
going
to
tell
us
how
to
pronounce
Liz's
name
and
then
tell.
A
Us
I'm
just
making
it
up
I'm
hoping
I'm
pronouncing
it
correctly,
but
you
look
confident
when
you
say
it:
clout
Liz
is
going
to
be
in
the
finance
department,
we're
proposing
the
higher
to
be
the
position.
That's
at
the
front
window
where
people
come
in
for
the
clerk's
office.
You
recently
hired
another
person
for
that
spot
and
that
person
has
done
really
well
and
we're
moving
them
down
into
our
accounts.
Receivable
area.
So
Liz
is
somebody
who
has
a
bachelor's
degree
from
New
Paltz.
A
A
She's
really
more
we're
we
could
use
her
more
in
in
accounts
payable
great.
D
B
Okay,
everybody
good
all
right,
so
the
second
one
there's
a
couple
of
agreements:
one
is
with
the
beacon
Chamber
of
Commerce
for
the
lease
of
the
Welcome
Center
Nick.
You
want
to
take
us
through
that,
which
is
a
renewal.
C
Thank
you
mayor,
yes
correct.
So
this
is
the
rule
of
the
lease
with
the
beacon
chamber
chamber
of
commerce
to
operate
the
Welcome
Center,
which
is
located
across
the
of
away
from
City
Hall
on
Walcott
Avenue,
and
so
what
you
have
in
the
packet
is
just
the
basic
lease
that
we've
drafted
before
just
being
updated
a
little
bit.
It
sets
for
the
uses
be
used
as
the
Welcome
Center
and
that
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
will
act
as
the
manager
of
a
welcome
center
and
staff
it
at
reasonable
hours.
C
So
they
can
find
individuals
from
the
chamber
ruling
to
staff.
It
sets
forth.
That
is,
for
a
period
of
one-year
term
that
can
be
renewed
for
poor
success
of
one-year
terms.
The
city
retains
the
right
to
terminate
it
on
60
days,
Advance
work
notice.
The
rent
is
nominal,
paragraph
seven
sets
to
work
attendance
duties
in
terms
of
operating
The,
Welcome,
Center
and
providing
information
to
visitors,
and
also
that
the
utilities
are
being
paid
for
by
the
city,
except
for
any
telephone
or
Internet
fiber
optics.
C
The
city
is
providing
the
insurance
tenant
has
to
get
its
general
liability
insurance
to
cover
its
workers,
while
it's
there
and
they
can't
make
any
changes
to
the
building
or
things
of
that
nature.
Remember
some
other
boilerplate
language,
but
this
is
just
a
renewal
that
we've
been
going
through
and
making
sure
that
releases
are
current.
G
C
To
the
best
of
my
yes,
they
have
to
we've
been
involved,
since
it
was
first
built
yes
and
it
has
been
and
then
schedule.
Eight
of
the
lease
agreement
sets
forth
the
permitted
signage.
C
A
And
we
had,
you
know
kind
of
a
break
during
covet
in
which
this
wasn't
the
staff,
so
they're
they're
in
a
process
of
rebuilding-
and
you
know
they
have
some
great
volunteers
like
Liz
and
Noah.
Who
are
there
consistently
we're
hoping
that
they
can
continue
to
rebuild
from
kovid.
H
G
I
just
want
to
add
that
I
appreciate
the
language
and
the
contract,
that's
about
protecting
the
artwork
on
the
Welcome
Center
as
well.
E
Thank
you
on
that
note.
I
was
curious.
At
one
point.
We
had
a
public
art
committee,
obviously
that
spot
on
the
back
side
of
the
Welcome
Center
has
had
the
same
artwork
up
as
far
as
I
know.
Since
any
artwork
went
up
there
and
I
was
curious.
If
there
was
any
interest
or
appetite
that
anyone
had
heard
of
reconstituting
that
committee
or
in
engaging
that
that
aspect
of
the
Welcome
Center.
A
Arts
is
working
to
redo
the
art
on
the
five
bus
shelters
that
we
have
and
Kelly
and
I
had
a
call
about
a
month
ago
about
that.
So
that
might
be
on
the
list
and
next
time
I
talk
to
her
I
can
ask.
F
B
All
right,
so
the
other
one
Nick
you
can
take
us
through
is
another
agreement,
which
is
with
the
American
Legion
Post
203,
for
at
least
the
memorial
building.
C
Correct
so
this
is
for
the
memorial
building
located
at
425,
Main
Street,
it's
with
the
as
mayor
said,
with
the
American
Legion.
So
again,
it's
another
continuation
of
the
prior
occupancy.
The
American
Legion
has
occupied
this
building
for
for
decades,
I
believe
so.
This
is
just
a
formalizing
and
providing
them
with
a
written
lease
that
I
understand.
They
will
be
using
connection
with
a
grant
they've
received
from
the
New
York
State
dormitory
Authority.
C
So
this
is
the
we
have
a
reason
we're
doing
this
again
sets
forth
the
the
location
of
our
properties,
the
building
the
term
so
New
York
state
law
has
a
specific
section.
The
general
Municipal
law
that
sets
forth
that
leases
to
veteran
organizations
can
only
be
for
a
maximum
of
five
year
terms.
It
does
allow
us
the
ability
to
continue
those
renewals
if
we
wish
to
do
so.
C
It
also
permits
the
rent
to
be
nominal,
and
then
an
article
5,
Section
5
of
at
least
was
set
forth,
that
the
the
permitted
use
consistent
with
the
veterans
of
uniformed
service
and
the
associated
activities
they're
not
paying
any
taxes.
The
landlord
is
responsible,
the
city
for
the
insurance
and
the
utilities.
C
We
are
asking
for
the
tenant
to
provide
insurance
as
well
to
the
because
they'll
be
conducting
activities,
and
we
also
recognize
in
this
lease
that
there
are
other
veteran
organizations
who
have
equal
rights
to
that
building
and
that
the
city
also
has
the
right
to
use
the
building
and
coordinate
its
use
with
the
other
occupants
of
the
property
and
the
city's
responsible
for
the
repairs
and
maintenance
of
the
building.
And
then
there's
just
some
boilerplate
language
regarding
no
ability
to
make
alterations
and
things
of
that
nature.
A
A
Eventually
he
his
district
was
moved,
but
he
maintained
that
commitment
and
he
gave
them
a
fifty
thousand
dollar
Grant
through
the
dormitory
authority
of
the
state
of
New
York.
They
asked
us
to
show
that
the
American
Legion
actually
had
rights
to
the
building
and
I
had
provided
a
letter.
Last
fall
that
we
thought
was
sufficient
and
then
the
and
the
folks
from
dazny
came
back
and
they
said
we
need
to
actually
have
a
lease
to
show
that
they
have
a
right
to
be
in
the
building
and
they
can
spend
this
money
here.
A
Well,
it's
a
renewal
of
the
occupancy
they've
been
there
for
I
I
will
tell
you
it's
a
hundred
years,
so
the
the
land
was
donated
to
Beacon
in
1923
by
a
family
exclusively
for
the
use
of
of
the
Veterans
Memorial
and
again
you
can.
It
was
just
after
World
War
one.
So
you
had
a
lot
of
returning
vets,
the
city
that
at
that
time,
had
a
vote
and
bonded
sixty
thousand
dollars
to
build
the
building,
yeah.
A
Think
about
how
much
that
I'm
not
even
going
to
compare
that
to
the
Firehouse,
but
the
building
was
for
the
exclusive
use
of
the
of
the
veterans.
So
we've
had
three
veterans
groups
there
for
some
time
now,
you've
had
the
VFW,
the
American
Legion
and
the
Marine
Corps,
and
then
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
two
years
ago,
they
brought
in
Guardian
Revival,
which
works
with
veterans
that
have
PTSD
and
they've
they've
done
a
good
job
of
activating
the
building
they've
been
using
it.
For
you
know,
tax
advice
for
seniors.
A
When
we
get
to
tax
season
through
AARP,
they
do
blood
drives.
They've
done
a
bunch
of
events.
I
know:
we've
had
Community
quarterlies
there
so
and
and
they've
been
keeping
the
place
up
nicely.
They
did
a
a
kitchen
refurbishment
that
no
no
City
money
was
involved
and
then
the
work
that
they
did
on
the
Landscaping.
They
raised
the
rest
of
the
money
outside
of
the
grant.
B
G
So
I
have
two
questions
about
the
contract,
one
if
we
could
Nick,
if
you
don't
mind,
give
us.
F
G
English
version
of,
what's
going
on
with
regards
to
alcohol
and
liability,
and
then
my
second
question
is
I
saw
in
the
contract
for
the
Welcome
Center
language,
about
the
beacon
Chamber
of
Commerce
won't
use
the
property
to
sell
or
rent
any
merchandise,
but
that
I,
don't
think.
I
saw
that
language
in
this
contract
and
I'm
wondering
why
that
language
exists
in
one
contract
and
not
the
other,
and
if
I
mean
I'm,
not
saying
that
it
matters
I'm
just
curious.
A
I'll,
let
you
know
because
I
I
know
what
it
is,
so
they
do
a
couple
events
a
year
that
are
fundraisers
in
which
they
serve
alcohol.
As
part
of
those
events,
we
require
a
special
insurance
certificate
for
events
with
alcohol
so
that
if
somebody
were
to
have
an
accident
or
something
there's
an
extra
layer
of
protection
there
above
and
beyond
their
liability
insurance.
A
A
There
was
an
idea
that
they
would
rent
certain
things
there
or
sell
certain
things,
and
we
wanted
to
keep
it
more
General
about
all
businesses
in
Main
Street.
They
don't
typically
sell
stuff
at
the
at
the
memorial
building,
but
they
do
do
fundraisers,
so
they
they
might
have
something
that
actually
could
fall
under
merchandise
like
if
they
have
a
an
auction
or
something,
then
they
know
they've
given
up
doing
any
gambling
there
they
used
to
do
Bingo.
G
B
E
B
Actually
appreciate
having
a
lease
it
does
clarify
who
the
owner
of
the
building
is
and
who
the
lesser
the
less
the
Lesser
and
the
lessee
is
for
the
building.
B
You
know
my
two
cents
has
been
to
encourage
the
groups
to
utilize
the
facility
and
in
its
fullest
and
I,
encourage
the
use
of
the
facility
by
various
Community
groups.
I
think
the
Vets
have
been
very
good
about
opening
up
and
allowing
other
groups
there
and
I
appreciate
that.
So.
D
A
I,
don't
know
that
I'd
go
that
far
I
mean
it
kind
of
defend,
depends
on
the
nature
of
the
event
and
if
it
needs
cleanup
and
I
mean
There
are
rules
that
come
with
this
like
when
they
used
to
do
the
beacon,
Farmers
Market.
The
farmer's
market
had
to
pay
to
clean
up
the
hall
they're
not
going
to
clean
up
after
somebody's
event.
So
again,
I'm
not
going
to
say
this
is
going
to
be
available
for
birthday
parties,
but
right.
Okay,.
B
Okay,
everyone
good
all
right,
so
the
next
one
is
just
coming
back
to
our
housing
discussion.
So
we've
had
a
few
and
I
thought.
What
we
should
just
do
is
have
an
open
discussion
about
what
we're
looking
to
do
next.
So,
if
you
recall
you
know,
I
still
have
a
list
of
things.
I
put
on
the
table
a
couple
years
ago,
I'd
like
us
to
get
back
to
some
of
those
and
then
I
think
Chris.
You
might
have
an
update
on
a
couple
of
specific
properties,
we're
looking
at
yeah.
A
Do
you
want
that
now
or
later
yeah?
Now,
it's
fine
okay!
So
we
recently
we
had
a
presentation
by
Heather,
Lavarnway
and
Dylan
Tuttle
of
Duchess
County
Planning.
One
of
the
things
we
were
talking
about
in
that
that
meeting
is
that
the
real
Gap
here
is
for
people,
30
percent
of
of
median
household
income
up
to
about
50
or
60
percent,
really
the
only
entity
that
serves
that
demographic
is
the
beacon
housing
authority
and
we've
the
mirror
and
I
have
met
with
various
members
of
the
board.
A
I
think
the
mayor
has
now
met
with
all
the
members
of
the
board
and
I've
met
the
executive
director
a
couple
times:
they've
engaged
to
developer
to
look
at
the
possibility
of
adding
additional
low-income
apartments
on
their
property.
The
layout
of
their
property
is
pretty
inefficient
and
and
they've
they've
explored,
adding
as
many
as
four
to
five
dozen
more
Apartments
there
they're
not
ready
to
come
to
council
yet,
but
what
they
would
be
looking
for.
Remember.
A
We
had
talked
about
kind
of
an
overlay
Zone
that
might
get
flexibility
to
areas,
so
we
might
have
to
look
at
whatever,
whatever
they
want
to
propose.
If,
if
that's
something
that
you
would
support,
then
they
might
need
some
zoning
amendments
to
allow
that
where
you
know
again,
this
is
a
pretty
unique
property.
A
You
can
probably
design
an
overlay
Zone,
like
you
did
some
years
ago,
with
the
senior
overlay
Zone
on
the
old
hospital
site,
so
that
it
would
just
pertain
to
the
one
and
it
would
allow
them
to
develop
out
new
apartments,
so
I'm
I'm,
hoping
by
the
Fall
that
they
can
come
back
to
us
with
a
conceptual
proposal
to
say
you
know
what
do
you
think
of
this?
Do
you
want
to
work
on
this?
A
It
looks
like
the
county
is
seriously
considering
putting
out
a
request
for
proposals
from
a
developer,
to
do
another
infill
building
on
the
front
of
that,
and
they
have
considerations
that
they
need
to
look
at
like
how
to
reconfigure
the
parking
so
there's
no
net
loss
of
parking,
how
to
accommodate
the
farmers
market.
So
they
actually
even
came
down
on
a
Sunday
to
see
how
the
farmer
market
up
operates
and
they
met
with
the
new
manager
and
the
new
I
forget
what
Amy's
title
is
the
the
other
manager
and
so
I.
B
Nick,
do
you
have
a
view
on
that?
Does
the
county
have
to
follow
our
zoning.
B
Okay,
yeah,
the
only
other
thing
I,
would
add
on
the
beacon,
Housing
Authority,
as
Chris
said,
I
have
met
individually
with
each
of
the
board
members
and
just
trying
to
encourage
them
to
look
for
additional
opportunities.
I
I
think
they're
collectively
all
interested
in
doing
that,
and
there
may
be
some
things
that
we
can
do
to
assist,
that
what
I
I
would
suggest
is
that
if
they
come
back
reasonably
soon
and
need
some
changes
in
zoning,
I
would
much
prefer
us
to
do
those
zoning
changes
Citywide.
B
So
it
doesn't
look
to
be.
You
know:
I've
been
totally
individually
focused
zoning
because
we
do
have
you
know
it
is
a
residential
neighborhood,
all
the
way
around
it
and
there
might
be
some
concerns
so
so,
for
instance,
my
my
guess
is
that
the
parking
requirement
would
be
one
that
probably
would
be
engendered
here
and
we've
been
talking
about
altering
or,
if
not
eliminating
parking
requirements.
I
think
that
would
be
a
logical,
First
Step
that
would
could
be
directed
Citywide
as
opposed
to
being
directed
to
a
specific.
You
know,
area
another.
B
Use
of
that
right,
but,
for
instance,
without
having
a
specific
minimum
right,
the
planning
board
could
take
into
account
oh
well.
These
are
senior
residences
and
the
experience
of
senior
residences
on
this
site.
Are
you
know
this
sort
of
parking,
and
so,
instead
of
imposing
some
number
that
you
know
ends
up
with
wasted
space,
you
know
they
could
come
up
with
a
different
one.
Another
one
might
be.
H
I
have
a
question
about
the
county
law
and
what
the
accountant
was
looking
for.
Were
they
looking
for
specific
bids
like?
Were
they
looking
for
specifically
like
for
the
bids
to
be
affordable,
housing
or
to
be
a
certain
Ami,
or
was
it
just
like
anybody
bring
anything
to
the
table
and
whatever
looks
good
to
the
county?
They'll
go
with.
A
A
You
know
like
under
under
the
beacon,
Housing
Authority
programs
or
under
Section
8,
but
that
they
would,
by
their
very
nature,
be
less
than
other
Market
Apartments.
So
I,
don't
know
what
they'll
come
up
with
they'll.
Probably
ask:
what
can
you
make
work,
what
they
they
know
that
we're
interested
in
affordable
housing,
it
may
I'm
I'm
guessing
they're,
going
to
look
for
something:
that's
both
mixed
use,
meaning
there's
commercial
on
the
first
floor
and
then
apart
apartments
up
above
and
also
mixed
income.
A
So
it's
going
to
be
some
component
affordable
and
maybe
some
component
Market
but
again
I
think
when
you
do
an
RFP
or
an
RFQ
or
an
rfei
like
a
request
for
expressions
of
interest,
you
kind
of
kind
of
can
put
out
there
you're
testing
the
market
like
what
do
you
think
you
can
build
on
this
site?
If
we
were
to
give
you
or
sell
you
this
piece
of
land
with
these
constraints.
F
A
B
Yeah,
my
impression
is
that
there
they
will
consult
with
us
when
they're
kind
of
ready
to
go
to
the
next
step
and
again
I,
don't
know
if
it's
at
our
impetus,
because
I
think
they
were
also
have
been
considering
it
and
I
think
they
got
a
pitch
from
at
least
one
party.
So
but
I
you
know
again,
I'm
assuming
that
they'll
come
to
us
when
they're
a
little
more
formed
up
as
to
what
they're
thinking.
B
E
I
wanted
to
clarify
for
the
housing
authorities
potential
development.
You
said
that
they're
looking
to
develop
on
land
that
they
already
own
I
wanted
to
clarify,
as
obviously
the
Housing
Authority
but
South
Avenue,
Park
sort
of
what
spot
are
we
really
talking
about.
A
I,
don't
know
that
they've
settled
on
a
spot.
The
developer
had
kicked
around
some
ideas
with
them.
I
went
over
with
the
executive
director
and
tried
to
steer
them
towards
not
taking
down
units.
They
were
looking
at
some
of
their
lower
rise
units
and
saying
oh:
if
we
took
these
down,
we
could
build
up.
You
know
and.
F
A
B
And
again,
you
know
this
is
really
up
to
them
to
pursue,
but
I
can
simply
describe
there's
a
lot
at
the
Eastern
edge
of
the
property
closest
to
Dinan
Street,
that's
underutilized
and
then
there's
a
lot
on
the
Northern
side
of
the
of
the
property
closest
to
West,
Center
Street,
that's
also
relatively
underutilized
and
then
I
think
there
are
some
low
Rises
adjacent
to
the
South
Avenue
Park.
That
are
a
possibility.
B
F
A
I
mean
they're,
looking
where
they
can
add
and
maybe
go
over
the
parking
lot
with
parking
underneath
so
we've
we've
asked
them
to
fully
explore
that
and
see
how,
maybe,
even
by
moving
the
there's
there's
wasted
space
in
between
the
parking
lot
and
the
building
in
in
one
of
the
areas
that
I
walked
with
the
executive
director
and
he
he
and
I
both
agreed
that
if
they
could
get
the
developer
interested
in
that,
that
would
probably
be
you
know
the
least
impactful
on
the
existing
infrastructure.
There.
G
So
maybe
when
we
have
that
discussion
with
them,
if
we
have
that
discussion
with
them
this
fall,
perhaps
we
could
have
some
maps
up
yeah.
A
I
would
I
would
ask
them
for
rendering
I
mean
I
want
to
see
maps
and
renderings.
You
know
an
idea
of
like
what
what's
the
massing
of
the
building.
Is
it
going
to
be
a
box,
or
is
it
going
to
have
some
kind
of
design.
B
F
B
Have
you
know
rights
to
build
on
certain
things
and
it
doesn't
require
coming
to
us,
so
it
would
be
a
voluntary
and
we
would
invite
them,
of
course,
but
we
just
need
to
be.
You
know,
mindful
that
you
know
just
like
any
other
property
holder.
They.
B
The
zoning
permits
them
they
should
be
able
to
do,
and
which
is
why
I'm
trying
to
think
through
ahead
of
time.
You
know:
can
we,
as
can
we
think,
through
some
of
our
goals
longer
term,
with
respect
to
encouraging
you
know,
sort
of
long-term.
You
know,
building
of
Housing
and
long-term.
B
Look
at
you
know
what
are
the
right
requirements
or
lack
of
requirements,
which
is
why
I
mentioned
both
parking
and
maybe
unit
size
might
be
things
that
if
we
thought
we
wanted
to
do
that
long
term
and
wanted
to
look
at
that
city-wide,
getting
it
done
early
might
create
options
for
them.
That
would
assist
their
process
along
right.
Would.
B
A
piece
of
land
that
might
be
it
might
be
I
I
can
say
that
I
had
originally
thought.
F
B
How
about
another
high-rise,
but
that's
not
where
they're
thinking
they're
thinking
of
something
a
little
you
know
higher
than
their
low
Rises,
which
are
two
stories
which.
B
A
lot
of
sense,
but
again
I,
I,
very
respectful
that
they're
they're
the
owners,
the
board
you
know
is
appointed
I
I
actually
make
the
appointment.
It's
it's.
The.
H
B
B
And
then
I
think
the
rest
are
appointed,
but
I'm
not
positive.
My
one
appointment
as
opposed
to
reappointments
my
one
appointment
was
an
additional
residential
member
because.
F
A
J
B
Sense
of
what
you
know
they
might:
what
are
they
subject
to?
What
might
what
might
they.
I
Not
be
subject
to
and
I'd
be
interested
to
know
how
we
can
be
more
helpful
to
in
terms
of
the
financial
feasibility.
You
know
if
they're
making
decisions
about
height
requirements
based
on
what's
in
their
coffers,
then
can
we,
for
instance,
apply
for
cdbg
funding
in
partnership
with
them
I'm
just
making
things.
F
I
A
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
if
we're
allowed
to
do
this,
and
this
would
be
something
the
attorneys
would
have
to
look
at
too,
but
I
thought
if
they
create
a
certain
number
of
the
units
that
we're
looking
for
30
of
Ami
or
50
of
Ami.
If
there's
some
weaving
of
the
building
fees
that
we
could
do
to
help
mitigate
it,
you
know
because
the
building
fees
can
be
add
on
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars
based
on
that
on
what
we
think
the
square
footage
could
be.
The.
F
C
Thing
Chris
we've
looked
into
that
I
think
we
may
be
able
to
get
there
and
we'll
let
you
know
when
we
complete
the
research.
The
other
point
in
response
to
the
question
is
it's
a
seven-member
board
of
which
the
mayor
appoints
five
of
the
seven
members
and
then
the
other
two
are
appointed
by
the
residents
themselves.
I
believe
it
is
so.
A
The
other
thing
they
mentioned
is
that
they
have
a
private
developer.
They
would
work
with
because
the
private
developer
kind
of
fly
apply
for
the
state
tax
credits
that
are
available,
so
they
wouldn't
need
that
they
wouldn't,
as
a
Housing
Authority,
have
to
front
the
money.
They
would
basically
be
making
arrangement
with
a
private
developer,
and
then
they
would,
they
would
work
out
the
numbers
they
would
have
to
do.
The
Pro
Form
is
to
make
the
to
show
that
the
rents
are
going
to
cover
whatever
payback
of
bonds
that
they
probably
would
get
tax-free
bonds.
A
They
would
probably
get
you
know.
Other
incentives
like
a
waving
of
the
sales
tax
on
on
all
equipment
and
supplies.
B
B
And
yeah
it's
gotten
longer.
It
didn't
used
to
be
this
long
right,
so
I
think
there's
a
clear.
You
know
kind
of
kind
of
need
there.
The
other
thing
is,
you
know
there
are
two
City
assets.
You
know
directly
adjacent
to
the
site:
one
is
the
community
center
and
then
the
other
is
the
park.
The
park
has
significant
restrictions
on
alienation
of
Parkland,
but
I
don't
know
you
know,
maybe
we
I
here's.
The
question
which
is,
would
you,
as
a
council,
ask
that
we
try
to
put
together
what
sorts
of
things
might
help?
B
G
A
Know
so
so
they
are
and
and
we're
trying
to
steer
them
away
from
things
like
you
know,
some
years
ago
they
came
and
said.
Oh,
if
you
give
a
slant
on
South,
South,
Avenue
Park,
we
could
build
a
whole
new
thing
and
it's
like
you're
sitting
on
all
these
parking
lots
that
are
completely
underutilized
alienating
Parkland
is
a
really
hard
process
and
we
only
have
so
much
Parkland.
A
G
Know,
I'm
I'm
not
I'm,
not
asking
these
questions
to
influence
the
project
by
any
means,
but
if
there
is
under
utilized
or
underused
city
property
that
could
be
leased
to
the
Housing
Authority
for
to
build
I
I
like
the
idea
of
of
of
housing,
of
different
income
levels
being
mixed
around
the
city
and
not
having
one
part
of
town,
that's
the
subsidized
housing.
You
know
so
I'm
wondering
if
there's
opportunities
where
we
might
be
able
to
offer
say
BHA
wants
to
build
in
another
part
of
town.
You
know.
A
Yeah
I
think
I
think
in
future
years
I
would
I
would
consider
putting
out
one
of
our
parking
lots
for
an
RFP,
it's
just
with
the
firehouse
project
and
then
Fishkill
teller
coming
I
I
wouldn't
be
able
to
get
to
that.
That's
why
we
were
looking
for
other
entities
that
might
have
the
bandwidth
to
do
this
independent
of
the
city.
Oh.
A
A
So
there
would
be
a
lot
of
questions
to
answer
that
you
know
again
in
a
couple
years,
when
we're
through
these
Legacy
projects,
I
I,
would
love
to
dive
into
okay.
We.
F
E
B
Well,
the
one
thing
I
heard
Dan
you
say
and
which
is
the
concept
of
mixing
different
income
levels.
Maybe
we
want
to
you
know:
let
them
know
that
that's
a
possibility
too,
and
that
you
know
it
also
might
make
the
numbers
work
better,
depending
what
their
financing
is
to
have
some.
You
know
kind
of
more
at
the
kind
of
the
hundred
percent,
or
you
know,
maybe
even
something
else
right:
The
Lofts,
the
West
End
Lofts
have
a
mixture
to
make
the
numbers
work
right.
A
G
Of
Ami
yeah
I
mean
I,
wouldn't
pressure
them
one
way
or
the
other
I
think.
Let's
just
see
what
they.
B
Come
up
with
right,
but
I
I
think
expressing
our
flexibility,
I
think,
encourages
them
and
I
think
that's
a
good
thing.
B
Okay
and
then
on
the
county,
we
can
try
to
learn
more
about
where
they're,
at
and
just
kind
of
give
you
updates,
but
I
think
what
Chris
knows
is
all
we
know
right
now,
right.
B
D
The
idea
of
using
those
specific
potential
and
hopefully
futurely
actual
examples
to
talk
about
whether
it
be
affordable,
housing
overlay
or
what
we
can
do,
zoning
wise
and
having
some
concrete
things
to
actually
connect
it
to
could
help
both
us
and
the
public
kind
of
understand
what
we're
talking
about.
So
it's
not
just
an
abstract
what
might
be
built
in
the
future,
but
no
on
these
kinds
of
sites.
What
might
we
want.
B
Any
other
zoning
looks
at
that
exact
site
and
maybe
others
like
it,
including
ham
fish
as
well
as
Beacon
as
well
as
Forester
Heights.
Is
that
good
enough
Nick,
or
should
we.
D
Well,
then,
with
getting
rid
of
minimum
parking
requirements,
I
think
that
would
be
great,
maybe
also
to
have.
If
we
have
experts
who
can
come,
talk
to
us,
I
know
Kingston
recently
totally
overhauled
their
zoning
and
they
had
a
whole
one
Workshop
just
on
the
parking
aspect
and
so
I
think
helping
us
understand
it.
How
the
help
the
public
understand
what
we
actually
mean
when
we
say
eliminate.
I
D
D
D
Don't
I
I,
don't
know,
I
can
look
I,
don't
know
if
the
person
who
presented
at
Kingston
I'm
not
sure
there
are
people
who
do
that
there
are.
Maybe
it's
some
for
the
planning
they
see.
There
are
other
documents
they've
referenced
at
the
planning
meetings
about.
Oh,
there
are
other
planning
codes
that
exist
or
sorry
parking
codes,
so.
D
G
And
I
mean
there
has
to
be
I.
Imagine
the
driving
this
conversation
would
be
data
about
who
owns
vehicles
and
how
many
and
because
I
worry
that
our
aspiration
to
have
a
a
city
with
fewer
vehicles
is
ahead
of
the
people
who
are
buying.
You
know
there's
cars
everywhere.
Just
because
we
want
people
to
ride,
bicycles
doesn't
mean
they
don't
have
two
cars
and
you
know
in
in
Beacon.
You
have
to
go
other
places
to
get
certain
things,
namely
you
know
most
medical
care.
G
So
most
people
have
to
have
cars,
so
I
just
don't
want
to
put
us
in
a
situation
where
we're
reducing
parking
requirements
and
then
suddenly
we
have
a
parking
crisis.
Yeah.
B
Yeah
fully
agree
because
you
can't
you
can't
Zone
what
people
do
in
their
behavior
right
because
we're
all
individuals
they
make
choices,
I
I
think
where
I've
and
John
will
have
data
for
this,
but
I
think
where
we've
kind
of
shown,
the
things
like
that
work
is
a
lot
of
the
new
construction.
There
was
a
lot
of
concern
about
number
of
kids
in
school
and
we
have
very
clear
data
on
that
and
we're
not
getting
that,
and
it
also
has
data
on
car
car
counts
and
I.
B
Think
that
if
we
get
the
right
kind
of
you
know
new
units,
it
does
have
impacts,
even
though,
as
you
would
say,
but
but
for
a
general
family
at
all,
you
know,
I,
don't
think
we
kind
of
impacts.
G
G
G
I,
don't
know
how
we
would
implement
it
and
I,
don't
know
exactly
the
you
know
how
how
we
make
changes
to
apartment
size
in
certain
areas
versus
you
know
all
the
technicalities
of
it
confuse
me
a
little
so
I'd
like
to
know.
Maybe
what
are
what
are
our
options
or
the?
What
are
the
different
ways
that
we
could
address
unit
size
in
our
zoning,
and
so
we
know
what
our
options
are
and
we
can
have
a
good
discussion
around
it.
G
You
know
I
I'll
tell
you
my
thinking
on
this
honestly
has
been
that
you
know
at
first
I
was
like
well,
why
should
people
who
have
lower
incomes
be
forced
into
smaller
homes
and
then
I
kind
of
my
mother
I'm,
trying
to
move
my
mother
to
Beacon
and
can't
find
her
a
place
and
she
said:
I'll
live
in
some
place,
really
small
I,
don't
care.
I
was
like.
Okay,
all
right
personal
choice:
yeah.
B
Yeah
I
I
think
that's
an
important
lever
and
one
where
what
I
would
suggest
is.
You
know,
Nick's
going
to
look
at
some
items
that
may
affect
a
particular
couple
of
areas
that
we
have
an
interest,
but
I
think
we
might
ask
John
to
kind
of
pull
up
the
list
and
say
all
right.
What's
in
here
the
minimum
unit
size
if
I
recall
the
way
you
implement
it.
B
Is
you
just
don't
have
a
minimum,
you
know
and
you
allow
the
Builder
to
kind
of
set
where
they're
heading
right,
because
I
think
we
have
a
minimum
size
for
units
in
the
code
right
now,
but
again.
F
B
A
E
And
just
to
recap:
we're
looking
at
parking
requirements,
we're
looking
at
minimum
size
of
unit
requirements,
potentially
looking
at
height
as
Molly
said,
and
looking
at
this
as
an
overlay
so
potentially
city-wide,
but
potentially
targeted
or
I'm.
B
A
You
know
like
for
DMV
I,
don't
know
that
you're
going
to
need
an
overlay
there,
but
it
might
make
a
difference
if
we
make
some
change
to
allow
the
minimum
apartment
size
to
be
smaller,
because
I
know
I
talked
to
the
county
about
having
smaller
apartments
that
could
be
small,
a
affordable
and
they
they
were
interested
in
exploring
that
now,
whether
a
developer
can
make
that
work
or
not
I'm,
not
sure.
B
We
should
also
ask
John
to
see
whether
the
county
has
any
sort
of
suggested
statutes
or
they
may
have
developed
some
I,
don't
know,
but
I
know
they've
certainly
thought
about
it.
The
other
thing
that
we
should
consider-
and
this
is
kind
of
how
I
do
it
in
my
head-
is
that
there,
if
we're
doing
something
city-wide,
that
means
it's
it's
going
to
be
applying
to
the
80
percent
of
our
and
I
made
up
the
number
it
might
be
bigger
than
80,
but
you
know
remember
that
one
map
that
has
here's
all.
B
Lot
of
R1,
but
you
know
we
should
just
be
thoughtful
about
that
right,
because
it's
obviously
very
different
in
terms
of
use
than
the
other
parts
of
the
city.
I
do
think
in
the
long
run.
You
know
over
a
couple
of
generations
we're
going
to
be
addressing
that
over
time,
but
I
don't
feel
obliged
to
address
it
day.
B
One
right,
the
adus
was
one
of
the
very
few
that
was
actually
targeting
for
more
so
kind
of
single-family
than
than
other
spots,
because
it
you
know
you
have
to
be
an
owner
and
has
to
be
owner
occupied,
but.
B
F
D
I
want
to
say
that,
for
what
we're
talking
about
right
now-
and
this
seems
to
be
automatically-
would
apply
to
the
beacon
housing
authority
and
the
county
lot
is
that
I
would
want
this,
at
least
in
the
short
term,
to
be
tied
to
some
percentage
of
whatever
we
determine
is
the
right
Ami
percentage?
So
it's
not.
You
know
we
might
in
the
future.
D
Look
at
that
changing
parking,
minimum
requirements
for
everyone,
but
for
now
I'm
most
interested
in
those
that
are
tied
to
whatever
we
agree
on
is
a
percentage
of
affordable
housing
that
we
we
want
so
I
think
that's
an
important
component
for
me
as
well
and
I.
Don't
know
what
that
percentage
is,
but
I
think
that's
and
again:
I'm
I
assume
for
the
county
and
Beacon
Housing,
Authority
they're,
probably
going
to
be
over
whatever
that
percentage
is,
but
for
others
it
might
be
something
we
want
to
be
specific
about.
E
B
H
So
I
I'm
actually
going
to
shift
the
conversation
just
a
little
bit.
Our
Focus
has
been
primarily
around
Supply
and,
like
figuring
out
what
we
as
a
council,
can
do
to
address
the
potential
barriers
in
creating
more
Housing
and
Development
in
the
city
and
I've
appreciated
where
the
conversation
has
gone
tonight
so
far,
but
I've
also
been
thinking
about
like
this
question
of
affordable
housing
and
I've
really
wanted
to
expand
it
to.
H
How
do
we
make
sure
that
everyone
in
this
city
has
access
to
housing,
and
one
of
the
I
would
really
love
to
just
expand
our
conversation
to
go
beyond
Supply
and
development
and
figure
out
ways
that
we
as
a
council-
and
this
might
be
just
like
a
dedicated
Workshop
session-
to
address
expanding
access
to
existing
homes
so,
like
the
renter
to
home
ownership
pipeline?
What
can
we
as
a
council,
do
to
address
that
promoting
stability
to
keep
people
in
in
their
current
homes,
and
maybe
that's
through
incentives
for
landlords
or
tax
credits?
H
H
Think
that
is
a
necessary
part
of
this
conversation
that
just
hasn't
happened
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that,
as
we
continue
we're
not
letting
that
fall
through
the
Wayside
and
one
of
the
things
that
I've
been
thinking
about
a
lot
is:
we've
had
a
resident
here.
That's
mentioned
that
we
may
not
be
qualified
to
have
the
discussions
that
we're
having
and
I
know
that
we
all
bring
experience
to
the
table.
H
That
is
absolutely
valuable
and
I
know
that
I
don't
know
everything
and
I'm
looking
at
places
like
Kingston
and
the
City
of
Hudson,
who
has
their
own
housing
department
now
and
it's
just
one
person,
but
they
have
a
director
of
housing
Justice,
who
is
a
dedicated
person,
creating
housing,
Justice
strategies
for
the
city
or
town
of
Hudson
and
I?
Think
that
would
be
something
that
could
potentially
help
us
as
well,
and
maybe
we're
not
going
to
immediately
jump
on
to
creating
a
whole
new
department
for
the
city.
H
H
And
I
would
love
to
continue
the
conversation
that
we're
having
today
and
talk
about
other
options,
whether
that
be
through
tax
credits
to
incentivize
people
here,
whether
that
be
through
policies
to
ensure
that
tenants
are
as
protected
as
they
can
be.
You
know
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that,
as
we
continue
to
have
this
affordable
housing
conversation
we're
doing
what
we
can
to
make
sure
that
the
residents
that
are
here
now
feel
like
they're,
seeing
they're
heard
and
that
they
have
a
stake
in
this.
B
E
And
I
would
encourage
John
to
reach
out
to
if
he
hasn't
already
and
talk
to
Michelle
who's
in
the
city
of
Hudson,
and
is
that
position
that
Justice
was
referring
to?
She
has
a
lot
of
ideas
and
part
of
what
her
position
does
and
the
service
that
she
offers
to
the
city
of
Hudson
is
some
of
that
one-to-one
personal
strategizing
around
meeting
people's
needs.
E
I
think
that
the
zoning
conversation
is
very
important,
and
you
know
this
is
the
these
are
the
levers
of
power
that
City
Administration
has
and
also
the
service
side
of
what
the
city
can
offer.
I
think
Michelle's
a
really
excellent
example
of.
D
I
think
Kingston
too,
might
have
added
someone
through
their
Kingston
forward
process.
I,
don't
know
what
that
person
does
if
it's
similar
to
Michelle,
but
that
also
might
be
a
just
to
connect
to
see
what
other
cities
that
aren't
that
much
bigger
than
us
are
doing
around
housing.
Justice
might
be
interesting.
Yeah.
E
F
B
K
F
H
Don't
need
to
use
all
of
our
resources
to
duplicate
things
that
are
already
happening,
but
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
what
we
can
to
make
sure
that
our
residents
have
access
to
the
tools
that
are
available
and
that
we're
bridging
that
connection,
if
it's
already
there
and
that
the
that
we're
discussing
that
piece
of
the
pie
as
well.
B
Yeah,
we
might
I'm.
Sorry
we
might
discover
is
the
case
that
you
know
Hudson's
the
only
city
in
their
County
and
their
County
isn't
very
big
and
Kingston's
by
far
the
biggest
city
you
know
community
in
Ulster,
and
whereas
we're
in
this
other
position,
where
there's
a
big
city
that
has
need
so
yeah
I
again,
I
I
want
to
find
interesting
ways
to
finance
as
well,
and
it
actually
may
be
getting
more
bang
for
a
buck.
That
way
as
well.
I.
D
H
And
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
this
discussion
of
Supply
is
is
necessary
because
we
saw
the
counties
report
and
we
are
lacking
and
in
the
vacancy
report
that
they
put
out
two
weeks
ago.
H
We
have
no
vacancies
in
Beacon,
so
if
somebody
loses
access
to
their
housing
in
Beacon,
they're
displaced,
and
so
we
absolutely
do
need
places
for
people
to
move
around
and
begin
and
I
also
want
to
figure
out
solutions
to
making
sure
that
people
aren't
moving
around
unless
it's
by
choice
and
I
I
think
we're
heading
in
that
direction.
Okay,.
B
J
G
G
G
Yeah
and
I
think
I
think
what
I
think
I
think
we
mayandered
a
little
bit
but
I
think
after
the
last
presentation
that
we
had
I
feel
like
everybody
got
kind
of
focused
and
I
feel
like
we
know
now
the
types
of
next
steps
that
we
want
to
take
and
I
think
we
all
voiced
many
of
them
tonight
and
I
I
feel
tonight
really
kind
of
like
we're.
Moving
in
the
right
direction.
G
I
I
have
to
say
that
I'm
Overjoyed
to
hear
that
the
BHA
in
the
county
may
be
partners
and
building
new
housing,
because
the
reality
is
the
best
way
to
get
affordable.
Housing
is
to
build
it.
Yeah.
B
And
I
I
would
give
us
a
break
too,
because
I
I
think
we
needed
one
to
talk
very
openly
about
ideas,
including
you
know,
out
of
the
box
ones
and
everyone
we
could
think
of,
and
then
it
takes
a
little
bit
to
kind
of
get
us
educated
and
to
start
to
kind
of
focus.
This
where
we
want
to
be
so
I
think
we're
doing
fine
but
I.
You
know
I'm,
just
I'm
going
to
encourage
us
to
keep
going.
E
I
did
just
want
to
underline
one
of
the
things
that
Justice
brought
up
in.
In
our
ongoing
conversation,
the
need
for
Sheltering.
We
don't
have
any
emergency
housing
at
all
in
the
city
and
whatever
thoughts
that
John
or
anyone
else
has
for
how
we
can
meet
that
need
here.
E
G
G
F
B
B
A
You
passed
the
five-year
Capital
program
and
in
July,
and
it
also
had
with
it
a
financing
plan.
You'll
you'll
recall
we
put
money
into
the
firehouse
that
was
coming
out
of
the
city's
fund
balance.
There
was
a
component
in
the
sewer
fund
that
we
needed
to
borrow.
So
what
you
have
in
front
of
you
is
a
bond
authorization.
A
It's
a
1.2
million
dollars
for
the
Fishkill
Avenue
sewers
and
I'll
talk
about
that
in
a
second
and
six
hundred
thousand
to
augment
shortfalls
that
we
have
in
the
West
Main
Pump,
Station
and
Force
main
you'll
you'll
recall
when
we
bid
the
fish,
Guild
teller
Avenue,
rebuild
project
that
those
bids
came
in
five
or
six
million
dollars
over
our
seven
million
dollar
budget,
and
we
have
to
truncate
that
so
we
still
want
to
do
all
the
work
out
there
and
the
next
phase
would
be
to
do
the
sewer
work
on
Fishkill
Avenue
on
the
on
the
Fishkill
side
of
of
Fishkill
Avenue
and
get
that
done.
J
A
Million
we'll
be
issuing
a
bond
for
that
eventually,
but
it
it
will
be
some
time
out.
We.
A
We
do
need
to
authorize
it
and
then
the
600
000
for
the
pump
station
in
Force
main
that's
a
project.
That's
been
improved
in
Prior
budgets.
We're
trying
to
get
it
out
to
to
bid
late
this
year
early
next
year
for
spring
Construction,
so
we'll
be
doing,
hopefully
the
teller
Fishkill
Avenue
next
next
spring.
A
If
the
bids
come
in
okay,
the
West,
Main
Pump
Station,
what
we
usually
do
is
we
issue
bands,
which
are
a
temporary
Bond
anticipation,
note
until
we
do
until
hopefully
the
rates
come
down
a
little
bit,
they've
they've
jogged
up
recently,
but
this
authorization
basically
makes
those
projects
go
forward.
We
we
really
need
to
be
able
to
have
a
bond
authorization
even
to
do
the
Bands.
L
A
A
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
Susan
will
Susan
Tucker.
Our
finance
director
will
try
to
do
the
bands
and
then,
before
we
go
to
long-term
Bond,
we'll
also,
we
also
try
to
pay
down
the
amount.
So
if
we
have
available
funds-
and
we
think
we
can
put
extra
money
towards
that
so
that
we
don't
borrow
as
much
or
and
pay
as
much
interest,
we
will
do
that
as
well.
B
Right
on
the
the
bands,
the
bond
anticipation
notes
always
are
at
a
lower
rate
than
longer
term
bonds
right,
and
so
you
use
that
that
as
a
way
of
waiting
to
see
when
do
you
want
to
bond
right-
and
you
know,
as
you
know,
rates
now
are
up
higher,
we're
hoping
they
may
come
down.
So
if
you
use,
you
know
some
short-term
money
a
few
times
right,
you
pay
a
rate,
but
it's
it's
short
and
you
usually
less
at
the
short
rate.
And
then
you
wait
for
the
long.
G
A
It's
it's
it's
the
sewer
beyond
the
limit,
so
I'm
I'm.
Still
we
did
this.
We
did
the
sewer
already
in
Fishkill
Avenue
and
Hannah
Lane,
where,
where
all
of
the
sewer
work
that
is
in
the
truncated
project,
remains
in
that
so
there's
some
in
in
Fishkill
Avenue
A
lot
of
it
is
on
the
fiscal
side
of
where
we
would
stop
the
project.
K
A
G
I,
don't
know
when
the
right
time
to
raise
this
is
so
I'm
going
to
propose
this
now,
but
I
I'm
wondering
I've
been
thinking
a
lot
about
the
Fishkill
Creek
District
and
which
we
extended
up,
which
I
think
includes
Route
52
along
the
creek
as
well,
and
it
seems
like
there's
going
to
be
some
ownership
changes
for
land
in
that
area.
G
Now,
if
we
should
change
the
zoning
in
that
area,
possibly
to
make
it
feel
more,
like
a
neighborhood,
perhaps
even
have
Main
Street
type
zoning
in
some
respects,
where
you
have
properties
smaller
lots
that
are
up
against
a
sidewalk
and
further
away
from
the
creek
and
I'm
wondering
if,
if
we
want
to
talk
about
eventually
doing
bonds
for
sidewalks
in
that
area,
if
that
would
necessitate
if
the
council,
my
colleagues
are
interested
in
having
a
conversation
about
the
zoning
of
Route
52
prior
to
that,
and
we
don't
have
to
take
that
up
now.
J
B
Yeah
yeah
yeah
I've
done
the
I.
Think
I've
mentioned
that
at
Council
too,
that
that,
especially,
if
we're
thinking
of
trying
to
create
access
into
the
camp
Beacon
area,
if
additional
Parcels
become
available
there,
that
become
buildable
and
that
they
come
out
onto
Fishkill
Ave.
That
might
create
also
an
area
of
demand
where
local
shops.
You
know
there
used
to
be
an
a
p.
B
F
B
G
Sure
sure,
right
when
we
talk
about
this,
when
Chris
mentioned
the
sidewalk
site,
it
was
just
like
oh
wait.
Maybe
I
should
just
bring
this
up
now.
Yeah
yeah,
but
you
know
what
my
worry
is.
That
is
that
we
could
miss
an
opportunity
on
Route
52,
where
it
becomes
more
like
route
nine
or
it
becomes
more
like
Main,
Street
and
I'm
more
inclined
to
have
things
like
I'm,
just
that
red
pepper
Diner
looks
so
nice
there,
and
it
would
be
nice
to
have
more
priorities
like
that.
There,
you
know
and.
A
And
you
you,
we
can
have
John
in
at
the
next
meeting
and
ask
him
to
talk
about
it
too.
You
may
not
be
that
far
off
from
the
zoning,
because
there
you
have
a
development
that
either
was
before
the
planning
border
got
approved
near
Conklin
Street
we're
basically
replicated
what
you're
doing
on
Main
Street.
You
know
commercial
on
the
bottom
upper
floors
with
housing.
G
A
B
Yeah
I
think
most
of
it
is
GB
General
business
Zone
which
which
we
tended
not
to
pay
much
attention
to,
but
I
think
this
might
be
the
right
time
to
take
a
real,
careful,
look
and
see
you
know.
Is
there
mixed
use,
you
know:
what's
the
housing?
Is
there
a
requirement?
Is
it
an
option?
B
You
know
if
we're
going
to
have
a
rail
trail
going
right
past
that
in
say,
10
years,
boy
that
that
you
know
might
encourage
a
real
rethink,
so
I
just
think
it's
a
really
valuable
area.
We
should
look
at
there.
Aren't
many
areas
left
that
we
can
that's
that
sort
of
May
open
up
as
a
new
opportunity
and
especially
if
we
can
connect
it
to
you
know
the
other
parts
of
the
city
that
are
still
undeveloped
in
that
area.
E
E
Where
have
adequate
oversight
over
the
Fishkill
easements
and
making
sure
that
we're
taking
care
of
that
water
body,
in
addition
to
encouraging
the
right
kind
of
development
along
it.
E
B
All
right,
yeah,
I'm,
sorry,
but
everyone
else.
So
what
we
just
said
was
we
have
to
make
sure
John
hears
this
part
of
the
conversation
as
well,
but
you
know,
keeps
them
as
separate
items
and
then
are
we?
Okay
on
the
authorization
authorizing
issuance
of
cereal
box,
yeah,
okay,.
D
A
No,
it's
going
to
bid
at
the
end
of
this
year
and
we'll
be
constructed
next
spring.
Great.
Thank
you
and
we've
approved.
A
We.
You
approved
a
substantial
amount
of
money
for
that,
but
our
approvals
from
we
had
to
get
approvals
from
Department
of
Health
and
also
MTA,
because
we're
using
we,
we
treated
some
land
with
them
to
do
that
or
used
an
easement
and
it
took
a
while
to
get.
F
A
K
B
Right
do
we
need
two
minutes
and
then
we'll
start
a
formal
meeting
all
right,
let's
take,
let's
take
five.
Thank
you
audience
for
for
waiting
we're
about
to
start
the
regular
meeting
just
give
us
a
moment.
B
K
M
B
B
B
So
first
thing
is:
this
is
the
first
opportunity
for
public
comments
for
those
of
you
that
signed
up?
You
can
go
in
that
order,
and
anyone
here
in
the
physical
room
have
up
to
three
minutes
to
talk
in
any
topic
of
your
choice
and
the
first
one
up
is
Teresa
craft.
N
Good
evening,
thank
you
for
including
low-income
housing
for
residents
in
tonight's
discussion
and
not
more
affordable
housing
that
is
not
affordable.
For
most
this
weekend,
I
met
a
gentleman
who
was
an
architect
on
the
original
Forrestal
Heights
project.
He
was
happy
to
see
it
was
still
thriving
and
glad
to
hear
it
has
a
future
of
expansion,
but
he
also
expressed
shock
that
Main,
Street
and
Beacon
looked
more
like
Westchester,
since
his
last
visit
here
a
few
years
ago,
I
hope
everyone's
ears
perked
up
during
the
workshop,
does
Beacon
really
want
to
be
just
a
bedroom.
N
Congestion
is
real
and
we
see
more
and
we
will
see
more
when
all
of
those
current
and
planned
projects
are
occupied,
as
promised
when
these
projects
for
300
to
400
plus
units
are
vying
for
the
same
30
parking
spaces
when
they
pop
onto
Main
Street.
For
that
quick
errand
to
propose
prophecy
theater
is
a
perfect
example
of
a
switcheroo
that
project
team
reassured
the
public,
how
accommodating
they've
been
to
them
by
scaling
their
project.
N
Attendees
numbers
back
only
to
see
at
the
last
planning
board
meeting
that
they
will
have
fewer
attendees
at
multiple
events,
scheduled
for
the
same
day
which
took
the
total
on-site
visitor
back
to
the
numbers
the
public
objected
to
reading
between
the
lines
in
the
local
newspapers
and
watching
the
videos
we
are
becoming
a
satire
of
our
own
despise.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
Rachel
yeah,.
L
L
Hold
on,
let
me
just
grab
my
thoughts
because
you
guys
changed
everything
around
on
me,
so
this
is
not
and
you're
talking
about,
but
the
beacon
I
bought
and
Zoning
was
four
stories.
If
I
was
correct,
the
height
you
could
build
so
now
we're
talking
about
you
don't
want
to
be
New.
York
City,
you
don't
want
The,
Pedestrian
I
was
just
talking
with
Justice
earlier
today,
who
is
the
ward
here
about
pedestrian
knockdowns?
L
Let's
just
keep
beaking
I,
don't
know
what
it
was
before.
I
don't
want
to
know
what
New
York
City
was
in
1970s,
but
I
also
don't
want
don't
believe
in
Prophecy
theater.
It
has
never
been.
It's
always
been
based
upon
assumptions.
It's
been
based
on.
Oh
yeah,
we'll
just
build
it
and
it
doesn't
mean
if
you
buy
it.
Oh
sorry,
if
you
buy
it,
it
doesn't
mean
your
dreams
will
come
true.
L
B
Thank
you,
Shelley
Simmons,
bloom.
J
Hi
everybody
hi
everybody
thanks
for
your
time,
put
my
glasses
on
after
two
years
of
hearings,
the
planning
board
continues
to
consider
an
application
by
prophecy
theater
for
site
approval
and
a
special
use
permit
for
the
Reformed
Church
of
Beacon
at
1113
Walcott
Avenue.
This
controversial
proposal
has
garnered
more
than
350
petition
signatures
against
it
and
hundreds
of
letters
of
concern
sent
to
the
planning
board
over
the
last
year.
J
Yet
last
year
alone,
my
husband
and
I,
and
many
of
our
neighbors
are
against
this
project
because
we
chose
to
live
in
a
residential
area,
not
a
business
district.
Our
neighborhood
is
zoned
as
residential
and
it's
pretty
easy
to
see
that
a
commercial
Enterprise
like
an
event
space
for
150
people
at
a
time
sometimes
multiple
times
a
day,
is
completely
incompatible
with
our
community
and,
as
we've
said
many
times
in
the
planning
board
meetings.
This
isn't
just
our
opinion.
J
The
prophecy
theater
proposal
doesn't
meet
many
of
the
standards
required
to
issue
a
special
permit,
those
being
section
223,
18b,
aec
and
d,
and
223
247d1b
and
C.
But
what
worries
me
even
more
is
that
this,
if
this
project
is
given
approval
for
a
special
use
permit,
then
it
sets
a
harmful
precedent
for
every
neighborhood
in
Beacon,
one
in
which
anybody
living
in
a
residential
area
May
one
day
find
that
the
city
has
approved
plans
for
a
large,
noisy
commercial
operation
to
set
up
next
to
their
backyard
and
they'll
have
little
recourse.
J
It
Beacon
has
seen
extraordinary
growth
over
these
past
few
years,
as
everybody
knows,
and
that's
a
wonderful
thing
in
many
ways,
but
it
should
never
be
at
the
expense
of
the
quality
of
life
of
its
residents
and
I.
Think
that's
something
that
all
beaconites
old
and
new
can
agree
on
thanks
very
much.
Thank.
B
You
Betty
wow.
O
Thank
you.
I
would
just
like
to
restate
my
continued
opposition
to
the
prophecy
theater
proposal.
Shelley
just
gave
a
great
recap
of
the
situation.
The
neighboring
developments
and
residents
have
spoken
loud
and
clear,
and
we
are
hoping
that
at
the
meeting
tomorrow,
the
planning
board
will
look
we'll
look
out
for
the
best
interest
of
the
residents
of
Beacon
and
deny
a
special
permit
for
the
proposed
event
space.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
B
K
Thanks
for
your
time,
I
too
I'm
against
the
development
at
the
historic
Dutch
reform.
Church
I
can't
I'm,
not
gonna,
repeat
what
everybody
just
said,
but
the
developers
themselves
have
said
that
there's
going
to
be
more
noise,
more
trespassing,
more
parking
issues
and
more
traffic,
it's
documented
I,
don't
understand
why
a
commercial
Enterprise
like
this
should
be
allowed
in
a
quiet,
residential
neighborhood.
B
M
B
D
I
have
a
couple
things
to
say
about
River
Pool
at
Beacon,
so
they
had
their
annual
River
swim,
this
past
Saturday
and
it
was
a
great
event
a
great
day
for
it,
lots
of
people
came
out
and
for
those
who
don't
know
it's
an
annual
swim,
that's
put
on
by
the
organization
where
people
swim
across
the
river
from
Newburgh
to
Beacon,
and
it
was
great
to
have
both
the
swimmers.
Who
did
it?
D
Congratulations
for
everyone
who
got
across
and
even
those
who
didn't
who
gave
it
their
try
and
I
was
great
to
see
it
was
a
beautiful
day
for
it
and
also
a
great
event
with
music
and
other
activities.
There
I
also
got
a
chance.
I
was
kind
of
connected
with
that
got
involved
with
the
group
first
or
got
connected
with
the
group
because
they
have
a
pool
in
by
Pete
and
Toshi
Sieger
Park,
there's
it's
actually
relatively
small
pool.
So
for
those
who
think
Liverpool
and
think,
oh
that's
going
to
be
a
gigantic
thing.
D
That
seems
a
little
intimidating.
It's
actually
great
for
families.
I
know
we
have
lots
of
people
who
either
have
young
families
in
Beacon
and
who
visit.
So
it's
really
well
set
up
and
it's
safe
both
for
family
police
and
for
the
river
itself.
They
do
lots
of
ways
they've
designed
it
over
the
decades.
They've
had
it
to
sit
well
in
the
river
they
take
samples
from
there
and
make
sure
not
to
impact
the
fish
as
well.
D
So
that
is
great
to
see,
and
so
anyone
who
wants
to
find
out
about
it
riverpool.org
is
their
website
they're
free
for
everyone
who
wants
to
come
by
whether
or
not
you're
a
beacon
resident
and
it's
open
on
Tuesdays
through
Sunday,
so
just
closed
on
Mondays
from
noon
until
six,
unless
the
weather
says
otherwise
and
they'll
be
open
until
Labor
Day
weekend
for
anyone
who
wants
to
check
it
out.
Lastly,
for
those
who
are
interested,
there's
a
free
citizenship.
D
Workshop
coming
up
at
the
Howland
Public
Library
on
Saturday
August
19th
from
11
A.M
to
3
P.M.
They
just
ask
that
you
register
in
advance,
which
you
can
do
Through
The
Howlin
Public
Library
website,
just
so
they
can
get
numbers,
but
anyone
can
come
by
who
wants
to
find
out
more
about
becoming
a
U.S
citizen
and
with
that
I'll
pass
it
Justice.
H
Thank
you
Molly.
If
you're
looking
for
ways
to
be
involved
in
your
community,
there
I'm
going
to
talk
about
a
couple
of
them,
one
is
we
still.
The
pandemic
really
highlighted
food
insecurity
within
our
community
and
while
we're
not
dealing
with
covet
the
way
that
we
were
two
years
ago
three
years
ago,
it
the
food
insecurity,
is
still
something
that
is
present
within
our
community,
and
there
are
ways
that
we
can
support
our
neighbors.
H
There
are
organizations
like
Fairground
and
mutual
Aid
Beacon
that
are
working
directly
to
feed
our
communities
and
there
are
tiny
food
pantries
across
the
town,
as
well
as
two
Community
fridges
that,
if
you
have
the
opportunity
to
I,
would
strongly
suggest
donating
to
them.
If
you
have
a
little
extra,
it's
sharing
is
caring
and
another
way
to
be
involved
in
the
community
is
I,
am
Beacon
is
doing
a
back
to
school,
drive
right
now
through
August
27th,
and
you
can
donate
school
supplies
to
at
Key
Foods.
H
So
I'm
just
gonna
talk
about
them
or
address
them
here
and
then
I'll
probably
send
a
list
to
Ben
as
well.
If
you're,
not
writing
them
down.
I
appreciate
you
Ben
a
number
of
my
neighbors
on
rhombau
Avenue
and
on
West
Center
Street
have
told
me
about
people
driving
at
dangerous
speeds
and
have
been
asked
asking
for
some
sort
of
traffic
control
around
there.
There's
also
been
excessive.
H
Speeding
noted
on
Wolcott
Avenue
by
The
Pedestrian
crosswalks
over
in
this
Ward,
not
too
far
from
here
I,
had
a
request
from
somebody
for
speed
limit
signs
on
Main,
Street
and
I.
H
Also,
a
couple
of
people
mentioned
to
me
that
the
giant
electronic
sign
on
Beacon
Street
at
the
interest
or
on
South
Avenue
on
the
intersection
of
Beacon
Street
and
South
Ave,
it's
visible
if
you're
coming,
if
you're
driving
north
on
South
Avenue
toward
Beacon
Street,
but
if
you're
driving,
West
West
down
Beacon
Street
it's
on
the
corner,
but
you
can't
really
see
the
do
not
enter
sign
or
the
electronic
sign.
There
are
multiple
signs
I
know,
but
somebody
asked
if
it
could
be
like
tilted
a
little.
H
H
Lastly,
I
had
a
couple
of
people-
oh
yes,
no.
Lastly,
I
had
a
couple.
People
mentioned
that
the
sidewalks
are
really
bad
on
Wolcott
Avenue,
just
east
of
South,
Avenue
or
past
the
beacon
Housing
Authority
between
there
and
South
Chestnut
Street,
and
then
I
noticed
that
the
sidewalks
were
really
bad.
Outside
of
484
Main
Street
I
watched
several
people
trip,
while
I
was
having
a
conversation
outside
of
their
over
the
weekend.
So
I
just
wanted.
H
Sorry,
yeah,
sorry,
that's
all
I
got.
E
E
Quickly
note
that
there
is
a
third
Community
fridge
that
recently
opened
on
Cross
Street
in
Maine.
The
others
are
outside
of
Pinnacle
books
and
at
the
recreation
center.
Just
to
add
a
little
bit
more
to
address
this
very
thorough
report,
and
then
the
other
item
I
wanted
to
note
is
that
I
know
that
our
conservation
advisory
committee
has
been
working
on
a
strategy
for
us
to
follow
up
on
the
clcpa's
goals
and
operationalizing
some
of
the
work
there
and
I'm
just
curious.
When
we
will
should
expect
to
come
back
to
that
as
a
council.
G
My
colleagues
reported
on
almost
everything
that
I
was
going
to
discuss,
but
just
one
quick
thing
for
me
is
I
actually
heard
from
a
couple
constituents
who
watched
our
last
meeting
and
complimented
me
US
complimented
the
Council
on
the
quality
of
the
conversation
and
said
that
that
they
learned
so
much.
G
This
was
our
conversation
about
affordable
housing
and
they
say
they
learned
so
much
about
the
intricacies
and
the
complexities
of
the
issue,
and
they
thought
it
was
a
really
excellent
conversation
and
one
person
said
they
were
sharing
it
with
others
if
they
wanted
to
learn
about
affordable
housing
and
the
problem
itself.
So
I
thought
that
was
really
interesting
and
then
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
I
will
not
be
having
office
hours
this
month
and
I'll
restart
my
office
hours
on
September
17th
from
10
to
12
at
tracks.
G
D
And
can
I
I
forgot
to
interject
I
will
have
office
hours,
Sunday
August
20th
from
4
to
6
p.m,
it'll
be
in
pull
Hill
Park
or
in
Bank
square.
If
the
weather
doesn't
cooperate
to
being
outside.
Now
to
you,
Lee.
B
So
I
won't
add
anything
else
other
than
for
those.
You
know.
I
was
away
this
weekend,
so
I
missed
the
River.
Pool
I
went
to
a
high
school
reunion
in
Long,
Beach
California.
So
originally
my
parents
immigrated
to
Detroit
us
from
the
inner
city.
Detroit
then,
and
then
Long
Beach
it
was.
It
was
fun
actually
so
and
I'll
end
it
there.
So
City
Ministry.
If.
G
B
A
Foreign,
just
a
quick
update
on
the
firehouse
project,
we're
approaching
our
second
month
of
construction
on
our
14.6
million
dollar
reconstruction
of
the
Tompkins
hose
Firehouse,
we're
nearing
the
completion
of
all
demolitions,
so
you'll
see
we've
gone
down
to
the
steel
structure
in
the
slab,
the
the
addition
that's
being
added
on
the
north
side
of
the
site.
All
of
the
excavation
is
done
now,
including
a
buried
tank,
and
we
will
be
pouring
the
cement
footings
for
the
new
part
of
the
building
starting
tomorrow.
A
So
we
are
on
schedule
the
team
that
we
have
working
right
now
as
the
GC,
the
site,
work
and
and
the
rest
have
been
wonderful
to
work
with
so
far
so
you'll
you'll
be
seeing
a
lot
of
stuff
starting
to
come
up
out
of
that
very
expensive
hole
that
we
dug
next
to
the
fire
station.
A
A
We
haven't
had
a
lot
of
problems
with
it.
People
seem
to
have
mostly
figured
out
how
not
to
drive
the
wrong
way
down
it
yeah.
It
might
actually
we'll
try
to
tip.
D
It
they
are
they're
parking
all
the
way
to
the
end
of
the
corner,
where
South
meets
Maine,
where
there
aren't
actually
parking
spot.
So
I
don't
know
if
we
don't
want
them
to
do
that
or
if
the
fire
truck
has
enough
width
to
turn
there.
It's
just.
H
I
had
one
more
thing
that
I
forgot
to
mention
in
my
report:
I
have
gotten
a
lot
of
good
feed.
I've
heard
a
lot
of
positive
feedback
around
the
electronic
speed
signs
and
I've
gotten
requests
for
more
and
I.
H
B
Okay,
so
let's
do
laws
and
resolutions.
The
first
one
is
a
resolution
of
pointing
Liz
Clow.
I
B
So
that
was
Justice
and
ren
any
discussion.
We
just
had
the
discussion
so
all
in
favor.
B
H
B
F
B
Most
second,
so
Ren
and
Dan
any
discussion.
D
B
B
You
know
make
the
memorial
building
more
available
to
the
community
I'd
like
to
see
that
used
heavily
and
I
think
they've
been
very
responsive
and
willing
to
kind
of
open
it
up
more
I'm,
very
pleased
that
they've
done
so
many
things
to
improve
it.
We've
certainly
done
the
same
and
I'm
just
glad
to
help
the
one
project,
along
with
this
lease
any
other
discussion.
B
Anyone
opposed
okay
and
then
the
last
one
is
the
authorizing.
The
issuance
of
Serial
bonds
for
sewer
projects
can
I
get
a
motion
on
a
motion.
D
C
B
B
B
Well,
then,
all
in
favor
of
authorizing
the
issuance
of
Sarah
bonds
say
aye
aye
aye
anyone
well.
This
is
I'm.
D
N
G
B
Six
eyes:
George's
excuse,
thank
you
all
right:
okay,
8
40
whatever,
and
we're
ready
for
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
of
July
24th
can
I
get
a
motion
motion.
Second
Molly
and
justice,
and.