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From YouTube: Beacon Planning Board 6 13 23
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The City of Beacon Planning Board Meeting from June 13, 2023
A
B
So,
as
discussed
last
month's
meeting,
we
are
modifying
the
format
of
the
workshop
to
extend
the
workshop
to
an
hour.
Our
Focus
as
a
board
during
this
Workshop
is,
as
Randall
described
last
month,
a
sort
of
Deep
dive,
an
exchange.
The
format
we
want
to
be
sure
is
crisp,
specific
I
understand
the
applicant.
B
C
You
Mr
chairman
I'll,
leave
out
the
introductions
for
the
public
hearing
section
of
that,
as
you
mentioned,
Mr
chairman,
we'll
ask
before
you
in
on
May
9th,
where
we
set
this
public
hearing.
Excuse
me
this
work
session
to
discuss
the
project
and
the
reduced
development
proposal
and
our
mitigated
measures,
environmental
review
and
the
secret
process.
C
We
did
provide
a
supplemental
submission
and
I
think
it
will
be
a
helpful
tool
in
discussing
the
Seeker
potential
impacts
that
we've
mitigated
throughout
the
process
and
I
think,
as
you
highlighted
Mr
chairman,
we'll
sort
of
go
piece
by
piece
to
that
effect.
Just
by
way
of
background
I
do
just
want
to
start
by
saying
this
goes
way
way
back
a
few
centuries.
So
if
you
just
give
me
a
second
to
start
back
around,
you.
C
History
that
leads
to
where
we
are
today,
you
know
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
adaptively
reuse
the
church.
You
know
we're
we're
here
for
a
specific
project
and
we
want
to
talk
about
where
we've
gotten
to
and
and
a
lot
of
that
does
involve
where
we
were,
but
for
the
purposes
of
today's
discussion,
we're
talking
about
a
30-room
hotel,
an
accessory
conference
event
space
and
a
cafe
use
which
are
all
permitted
as
of
right
in
the
zoning
District.
C
C
The
applications
that
are
before
you
are
site
plan,
there's
a
special
use,
permit,
lwrp,
consistency,
determination
and
there's
also
a
certificate
of
appropriateness.
All
that
go
for
this
application,
currently
we're
proposing
a
30-room
hotel
that
runs
24
7
365
days
a
year
with
33
off
three
parking
spaces
until
which
corrects
me
and
it's
34.
C
and
on-site
surrounding
the
parsonage.
We
also
have
four
proposed
parking
spaces
that
will
be
Ada
accessible,
we're
of
course,
all
adaptively
we're
using
the
church
for
an
event
and
Conference
space
and
a
cafe
with
minimal
exterior
changes.
The
project
really
is
repurposing
the
buildings
that
exist
today
on
the
site
for
a
better
in
use
that
can
be
sustainable
without
demolishing
the
church
for
other
uses.
C
The
accessory
uses
will
be
subject
to
certain
limitations
on
a
total
hours
of
days
of
use,
hours
of
operation,
total
capacity,
and
currently
we
propose
the
following.
So
I
think
this
might
be
Mr.
Chairman
of
the
section
called
conference
event
spaces,
that's
sort
of
been
the
driver
of
most
of
the
public
comments
and
the
discussion,
so
I'll
lay
out
the
days
the
capacity
the
hours
and
the
details
in
the
cafe
and
then
maybe
I'll
pause
there
before
we
sort
of
get
into
sort
of
the
Project's
Evolution
and
the
specifics
about
noise
mitigation
and
other
efforts.
B
C
C
So
speaking,
first
to
the
days
the
events
are
limited
to
Thursdays,
Fridays,
Saturdays
and
Sundays
and
holidays
and
holiday
views
so
again:
Thursday
Friday,
Saturday,
Sunday
and
holidays
and
holiday
Eaves.
There
will
not
be
any
events
on
Mondays,
Tuesdays
or
Wednesdays.
There
is
an
exception
for
the
Mondays
that
are
a
holiday.
That's
five
total
that
we've
listed
in
our
in
our
plan.
The
capacity
for
the
event
space
shall
be
150,
attendees
on
Fridays
Saturdays,
Sundays,
holidays
and
holiday,
Eaves
and
130
attendees
on
Thursdays.
C
So
again,
that's
150,
Friday,
Saturday,
Sundays,
holidays
and
holiday
Eaves
and
then
130
attendees
on
Thursdays
hours
of
operation,
so
we're
on
Friday,
Saturday
and
holiday.
Eaves
events
will
end
no
later
than
8
30
pm,
with
attendees
dispersed
by
9
pm,
so
on
Friday,
Saturdays
and
holiday,
Eaves
so
effectively.
Weekends
events
will
now
be
no
later
than
8
30
PM,
with
attendees
dispersed
before
the
night.
The.
C
A
B
B
G
G
C
B
G
F
C
I
G
B
J
C
On
I
think
Mr
Hector
represented
depends
on
the
nature
of
the
event,
but
you
know
again:
the
site
itself
can
be
utilized
for
conferences
or
they're
performing.
You
know
there
isn't
always
going
to
be
heavy
equipment
or
maximum
capacity
event,
so
the
intent
is
to
get
it
off
site
within
the
period
that
you
would
otherwise
be
dispersing.
The
attendees.
G
The
nature
of
the
space
is:
if,
if
there
were
to
be
a
music
event
there,
we
all
all
this
equipment
that
you're
talking
about
I
I'm,
not
exactly
sure
where
you're
getting
this
from,
but
in
in
a
larger
Arena
or
that
kind
of
scenario
there.
There
are
major
trucks
coming
in
and
out
with
major
equipment.
We
would
probably
have
a
back
line
of
most
equipment
required
for
anything
that
is
incorporated
with
an
event
there.
G
If
there
were
any
major
setups,
it
would
happen
either
during
the
day
and
come
out
the
next
day,
but
in
terms
of
I
guess,
you're
talking
about
a
music
event,
I
would
I
would
say
that
if
there's
a
guitar
player,
you'd
have
a
guitar
and
an
amp,
and
that
would
not
require
this
gate
truck
or
anything
like
that
and
there
would.
There
would
not
be
a
big
setup
where
enough
we
wouldn't
have
like
backdrops
and
sets
and
major
things
like
that,
it's
a
it's
a
small
intimate
space,
so
it
doesn't
require
any
of
that.
C
Cafes,
the
cafe
is
365
the
capacity
there
is
a
maximum
of
50
persons.
As
you
all
know,
there
was
a
there's
been
a
lot
of
changes
in
the
numbers.
I
know
I'm
not
to
go
back
in
history,
including
back
to
the
Revolutionary
War,
but
the
cafe
will
be
closed
to
the
public.
If
the
conference
events
attendance
is
greater
than
100,
so
I
mean
this
is
well
below
what
have
been
contemplated
for
the
original
site.
C
So
again,
the
cafe
will
close
to
the
public.
If
the
conference
event
space
is
greater
than
110
days
just
for
the
benefit
of
those
that
may
not
have
been
part
of
the
board
during
the
review
of
this,
that
relates
to
the
off-street
parking
regulations.
Again,
the
parking
plan
is
a
zoning
compliant
parking
plan.
It's
well
below
what
the
threshold
would
be
for
attendees.
The
hours
of
operation
will
be
7
A.M
to
8,
30
p.m,
Sunday
through
Thursday
and
7
A.M
to
9
p.m,
Friday
and
Saturday.
C
Through
Thursday
and
again,
7
A.M
to
9
p.m,
Friday
and
Saturday-
and
these
are
again
supportive
of
the
hotels
use.
I
mean
again
it's
the
same
as
you're
meeting
having
a
food
service
or
otherwise
in
the
building
itself,
and
also
will
provide
Public
Access
before
I
go
on
to
other
sections.
That's
the
cafe
operation.
C
B
C
Just
sort
of
saying
it's
going
to
be
some
that
Cafe
space
turns
into
support
the
support
for
the
conference,
okay
and
and
apart,
and
also
for
parking,
so
that
you're
not
having
50
I.
Think
Mr
Clark
mentioned
at
one
point:
a
concern.
If
you
had
50
attendees
and
you
had
the
max
capacity
of
100
back
then
175
or
200,
then
you
would
exceed
them.
You
could
have
to
consider.
You
could
have
an
event
sort
of
accidentally
at
200
here.
B
K
C
I'll,
let
Gavin
touch
on
it.
I
mean
anecdotally,
I,
try
and
go
to
bird
and
bottle
like
every
Saturday.
So
so
they
posted
on
their
Facebook.
But
that's
just
the
Taylor
version
of
knowing
when
not
to
appear
there.
I
mean
try
to
go
to
Quinn's.
They
usually
have
a
list
right.
I,
never
know
when
that's
open,
but
I'll
turn
to
Gavin
for
the
Freelancers.
The.
G
Real
answer
is
yes,
I
mean
it
would
be
if
we
posted
out
there
on
websites,
social
media
or
whatever
people.
That
generally
speaking,
though,
you
would
see
the
Cafe
close
to
the
public
evening
weekend
evenings
most
most
other
times,
it
would
be,
it
wouldn't
have
to
be
closed,
and
if
it
is
I
mean
we
definitely
wouldn't
expect
large
crowds
pounding
at
the
door
for
it
to
be
open,
then
there
will
be
a
sign
posted.
So
it's
again
like
you
would
mostly
expect
Friday
Saturday
evenings
for
the
cafe
to
be
working
for
the
event
space.
J
B
C
A
lot
of
activities-
yeah
I
mean
that
you'd
have
Loadout
load
in
together,
whether
it's
users
or
otherwise,
in
our
our
traffic
mitigation
plan.
But
ultimately
there
will
be
a
separation
between
the
events,
so
there
wouldn't
be.
You
wouldn't
be
high-fiving.
The
person
going
in
the
other
is
going
out.
Yeah.
B
L
Yeah,
so
it's
it's
actually
not
specifically
addressed
in
the
traffic
parking
management
plan
as
of
yet,
but
we
can
certainly
add
this
in
we've
had
this
discussion
and
our
feeling
is
that
we
would
for
events
over
100
people.
We
would
make
sure
that
there's
a
minimum
of
an
hour
and
a
half
time
difference
between
the
end
of
an
event
and
the
start
of
the
next
event
to
allow
for
that
that
pickup
drop
off
unloading
and
then
also
turnover
of
parking
spaces
nearby
that
may
be
being
utilized
to
in
that
time
period.
B
Yeah
I
I
think
in
general.
You
know
when
it
comes
to
these
specifics,
I
think
it's
in
in
everybody's
best
interest,
especially
the
city
and
even
more
especially
Bruce's,
that
your
conditions
outline
very
specifically
the
things
that
we're
talking
about
here.
So
we
have
a
framework
for
something
to
refer
back
to
for
making
sure
that
you
know
things
aren't
happening
outside
of
what's
been
approved
and.
C
If
I
made,
this
is
a
direct
response
to
Mr
Clark's
comment,
he
included
that
to
Russo
one
of
the
common
members
reflected
the
potential
for
more.
You
know
to
have
events
between
that
has
been
contemplated
by
the
applicant,
but
now
we're
sort
of
refining
that
to
ensure
that,
as
you
said,
Mr
chairman-
that
it
operates
as
it
should
yeah.
G
B
C
B
G
Of
operation,
the
capacity
restrictions
are
still
the
same
and
days
and
hours
in
most
conference
scenarios.
If
we
we
have
the
hotel
we'll
have
conference
attendees,
they
would
throughout
the
day,
probably
be
going
back
and
forth
between
the
event
space
and
the
hotel
or,
if
they're
staying
off
site
it
would,
it
would
be
the
same
attendees
for
the
most
part
coming
coming
in
and
out
of
the
space.
So
we
would
it
would.
It
would
not
be
a
new
group
coming
in
and
out
understood.
M
But
it
seems
that
a
conference
use
from
like
eight
to
five
would
be
perhaps
not
you
know
as
much
of
an
impact
as
an
evening
event
and
would
contribute
to
the
viability
of
the
the
business,
Enterprise
and
so
I
guess.
I
know
that
we
can't
get
into
really
commenting
on
your
business
plan,
but
it
might
be
illustrative
to
everybody
to
kind
of
just
hear
what
your
thinking
was
on
that
sure.
C
And
I
think
I'll
touch
on
it
versus
then
I'll
just
pass
it
over
to
Gavin.
I.
Think
part
of
the
thinking
is
sort
of
the
theme
that
Gavin
referenced
earlier,
which
is
trying
to
simplify
the
process
trying
to
simplify
the
plan.
You
know
some
of
it.
You
know
that
was.
That
was
a
message
we
received
and
trying
to
work
into
this.
It
was
a
lot
easier
to
say
Monday
Tuesday
Wednesday,
since
those
aren't
the
lower
sort
of
desired
days.
For
these
you
know,
conferences
or
otherwise
you
know
leading
into
weekends
or
otherwise.
C
C
To
absolutely
as
a
concession
to
the
neighbors
and
trying
to
make
sure
they
have
certainty,
this
isn't
happening
on
these
days
and
you
might
have
one
on
a
given
Monday
and
then
not
have
it
on
a
Wednesday.
It's
just.
It
helps
the
building
inspect
to
move
enforce
and
we
we
certainly
if
the
board
is
saying,
do
it
Monday,
Tuesday,
Wednesday,
I.
Imagine
I'll
eat
these.
You
know
that
we
would.
We
would
certainly
include
them,
but
I
think
the.
F
E
G
To
are
take
place
Thursday
throughout
the
weekend
and
and
they
they
will
go
into
the
conference
and
still
be
required
to
to
spend
some
time
in
in
their
at
their
school
teaching
and
then
they're
able
to
take
off
for
a
Thursday
Friday
and
weekend.
And
that's
when
most
of
these
conferences
happen
and-
and
so
I
was
reassured
in
in
this-
not
just
speaking
with
my
wife
but
other
academics
that
that
also
are
involved
in
conferences.
G
B
B
F
B
B
O
B
F
F
J
C
B
G
D
F
G
B
C
And
I
can
speak,
we
specifically
have
in
our
management
plan
the
staff
that
will
be
on
site
to
encourage
attendees
to
disperse
and
again
I'm
really
concerned,
most
mainly
with
the
maximum
event
capacity.
We've
also
done
studies
with
our
salmon
sold
them
about
that
type
of
congregating.
What
that
means
to
adjoining
properties,
you
know
getting
off
the
site
so
effectively.
We
do
have
staff
that
will
bring.
You
know
we'll
where
the
exit
to
the
property
exit
to
the
parking
lot
is
as
well.
E
C
B
B
G
C
F
C
B
L
So,
in
consultation
with
your
traffic
consultant,
we
it's
part
of
the
traffic
and
parking
management
plan.
We
actually
added
an
attendant
to
be
posted
at
the
entrance
near
Walcott
Avenue
there
to
kind
of,
if
that
was
to
happen
to
direct
the
vehicle
into
the
site
so
that
they
could
drop
off
within
the
site.
L
The
plan
would
be
to
to
just
kind
of
stop
them
at
the
point
of
where
they
would
try
to
drop
off
and
walk
out
and
direct
them
into
the
site
so
that
they
could
drop
off
where
it's
intended
up
by
the
the
entrance.
For
that
specific
item,
thanks,
I
can
go
through.
You
know
the
general
overview
of
the
traffic
department
management
plan
again
that
you
want
to
hear
if
you
have
specific
questions
on
it,.
L
L
L
I
mean
yeah
I
mean
that's,
certainly
I
guess
that's
possible,
but
you
know
the
intent
is
you
know
with
signage
that
we've
proposed
for
drop
off
for
the
drop
off
and
and
pick
up
with
you
having
the
attendant
there
at
the
entrance
is,
is
to
get
as
many
people
in
to
drop
off
on
the
site
as
possible.
We.
A
L
L
C
The
mitigation
measures
that
I've
Incorporated
throughout
the
mitigation
plan
that
that
rich
is
speaking,
he's
speaking
specifically
about
our
traffic
parking
management
plan.
We
also
have
a
sensitivity
analysis
that
was
provided
to
sort
of
give
real
world
effects
when
traffic
studies
you
know
it
might
seem
like
too
many
numbers.
C
So
we
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
is
important
to
highlight
for
the
board
and
the
concerns
that
related
to
Traffic
and
parking
is
that
we
have
Pro
offered
a
post
approval
monitoring
report
so
that
monitors
the
event
conditions
for
six
to
12
months
period
after
the
event,
spaces
and
circulation
as
and
functioning
of
the
traffic
management
plan.
So
it's
effectively
suggesting.
C
L
The
intent
is
to
do
it
sometime
between
those
six
and
12
months.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
capture
both
the
type
A
and
type
B
event,
so
150
person
event
or
something
close
to
that
and
a
100
event
with
the
Cafe
open.
So
it's
just
you
know
giving
it
some
time
to
to
work
it's
way
into
the
utilization
in
that
first,
six
month
period.
And
then,
after
that
kind
of
picked
the
right
capacity
event
to
kind
of
get
a
capture
of,
what's
really
happening
with
those
events.
H
B
B
C
C
F
C
B
B
L
Q
R
We
actually
we
had
provided
them
the
comment
because
they
initially
started
with
just
a
timeline
on
when
they
should
conduct
the
studies
we
didn't
want
to
be
confined
to
a
time
period.
We'd
rather
want
to
be
specific
on
the
types
of
events
that
we're
looking
at
because
they
might
may
not
have
a
large
event
within
six
months.
They.
C
R
To
see
one,
so
that's
why
the
traffic
management
plan
specifically
includes
those
studies
per
our
common,
so
I
think
it's
I
agree.
You
want
to
try
and
get
it
done
as
soon
as
possible,
but
you
want
to
make
sure
you
capture
the
right
type
of
event,
not
the
right
time
that
the
event
is
occurring.
Yeah.
C
B
L
S
L
B
Yeah
I
mean
I
think
it
makes
more
sense
to
have
to
have
it
structure
in
a
way
that,
within
the
first
year,
you're
monitoring
any
of
those
events.
Events
that
would
be
considered
more,
you
know
worthy
of
monitoring
for
just
the
types
of
things
we're
all
discussing
as
far
as
concerns
does
that
make
sense,
I
don't
know
how
to
create
the
language
around
that,
but
I.
O
B
B
C
F
F
C
C
B
C
B
T
C
They're
rehabilitating
you
know,
building
and
preserving
it,
and
you
know
adapter.
We
were
using
another
but
I
think
collectively
it's
just
that's
why
they
propose
it
typically
and
those
time
frames
because
you're
more
adequately
addressing
the
operations
that
the
intent
is
to
be
working
and
functioning
day,
one
but
yeah
I,
don't
think.
I
was
as
great
at
my
at
my
job
on
day,
one
as
I
am
many
years
later.
Yep.
B
K
The
monitoring
a
once
and
done
type
of
event
like
if
I
mean
I,
understand
that
there's
different
types
of
events
that
you're
going
to
monitor,
but
is
it
you
know
we're
going
to
monitor
three
of
the
largest
events
or
you
know,
maybe
everyone's
on
Tip-Top
game,
because
they
know
you're
going
to
be
monitoring.
So
you
know
three
months
down
the
road,
then
what.
L
Yeah
I
mean
I
think
the
way
we
we
had
identified.
The
intent
was
to
kind
of
pick
the
the
most
critical
of
the
events
and
and
do
one
or
two
of
those
both
of
both
the
type
A
and
type
B
and
kind
of
just
getting
full
handle
on
the
operation.
There's
they
also.
You
know
we
had
in
our
traffic
and
parking
management
planning
plan.
We
had
identified
going
back
to
the
traffic
committee
specifically
because
that
was
one
of
their
comments.
C
C
E
C
C
M
Have
a
yeah-
and
this
is
prompted
by
public
comments,
so
the
question
is:
does
the
traffic
management
plan
address
the
following
hypothetical
event?
Look
into
sides
to
organize
a
weekend?
Let's
say
just
for
the
sake
of
argument:
Bluegrass
Festival
with
a
number
of
performers
at
the
event
space
throughout
the
day
there
is
a
decision
made
perhaps
to
sell
two
types
of
tickets
day
passes
or
weekend
pass
and
then
headliner
tickets.
M
If
you
just
want
to
come
at
4
pm
and
see
the
the
biggest
names
such
that
this
creates
a
situation
where
you
have
people
coming
and
going
throughout
the
day
for
two
reasons:
one
maybe
because
they
have
different
ticket
types,
so
they're
coming
at
different
times
for
different.
You
know
events
other
also
because
it's
a
full
day
event.
M
So
people
are
leaving
for
a
while
to
go,
get
food
and
they
maybe
decide
they
can
skip
a
few
bands
and
in
this
kind
of
scenario,
I
think
one
of
the
differences
would
be
you'd
need
the
traffic
staff
to
be
there
the
entire
day,
not
just
at
the
arrival
and
departure
times
for
typical
event.
So
you
know
I
guess
options
would
be
to
say
we're
never
going
to
do
something
like
that
or
yeah.
M
C
C
The
key
point
is
that
at
no
point
we'll
exceed
the
number
of
attendees.
That
was
a
driving
factor
for
a
lot
of
reasons.
I
mean
there
was
there
was
how
many
vehicles
are
coming
to
the
site,
how
many
people
are
coming
to
the
site,
but
I
think
the
simple
answer
is:
if
there
is
an
explicit
concern
about
an
all-day
event,
then
we
can
incorporate
that
into
the
plan.
C
But
it's
it's
you're,
just
reducing
the
number
of
people
showing
up
at
any
one
time,
which
was
really
the
driver
of
these
analyzes
is
that
you
were
having
a
Confluence
of
vehicles
or
people
at
one
time
concern
of
congregation,
not
that
someone
might
be
walking
in
at
four
o'clock,
and
then
someone
might
be
coming
in
at
five
to
the
site.
You'd
have
to
staff
on
site,
regardless
to
manage
those
people
coming
into
and
out
of
the
site
over
as.
G
As
Taylor
said,
the
the
space
isn't
really
set
up
to
have
the
kind
of
situation
you're
talking
about
talking
about.
There
could
be
something
like
a
a
baseball
card
convention
in
which,
like
you,
have
for
a
antique
roadshow
kind
of
thing.
Where
you
have
you
have
people
at
no
point.
There
will
probably
be
more
than
100
people
in
there
at
a
time,
and
it
would
be
more
like
the
flow
of
a
restaurant,
business
and
business.
G
C
M
Just
just
to
reiterate
what
I'm
hearing
so
far
as
response
so
in
in
terms
of
those
members
of
the
public
who
sent
letters
saying,
could
there
be
some
kind
of
weekend,
Music
Festival,
that's
going
to
bring
you
know,
people
coming
and
going
all
day
or
you
know
the
answer
is
you're
not
contemplating
that.
But
you
are
saying
that,
but
there
could
be
something
like
a
baseball
card
convention
where
there'd
be
a
steady
flow
of
people
in
and
out
throughout
the
day
and
one
I
guess
one
question
would
be.
M
G
All
part
of
the
plan,
the
planning
it's
something
like
that,
it
would
be
under
the
circumstances
that
we
would
we
would
be
able
to
to
address
traffic
and
parking
the
way
that
Park
traffic
management
plan
addresses
it
so
that
we,
you
know,
as
Taylor
was
saying.
The
biggest
concern
is
from
our
neighbors,
as
we've
heard
is
150
people
leaving
at
the
same
time
and
coming
at
the
same
time,
but
I'm
just.
C
In
that
point,
just
the
same
with
the
hotel,
where
there's
going
to
be
people
that
are
coming
to
the
site,
they're
going
to
be
coming
in,
maybe
go
out
to
get
a
drink,
maybe
come
back
and
they
go
to
the
other
breweries
that
are
open,
till
8,
PM
Outdoors.
You
know
things
of
that
effect
right,
so
these
are
places
and
things
that
are
functioning
on
the
site,
but
they're
they're
being
managed
by
the
traffic
management
parking
plan.
The
idea
is
to
be
able
to
provide
all
those
resources
and
incorporate
it,
but
I
think
your.
I
J
C
M
F
M
Terms
of
I
think
they're
well,
they're,
they're,
analogous
I.
Think
in
terms
of
what
the
concern
has
been
expressed
by
by
the
public
about
is
there.
Could
there
be
some
kind
of
weekend
event
where
people
are
just
coming
and
going
all
day
long
and
is?
Is
that
you
know?
Is
that
something
that
would
cause
a
more
intense
impact
than
an
arrival
time
followed
by
everybody's
just
inside
enjoying
the
event
and
then
a
depart?
You
know
a
burst
of
departure
time
so
that
I
mean
but
go
ahead.
Please,
let's
just
trying.
C
C
C
C
So
we
did,
we
have
ourselves
consultant
joining
us
tonight.
Sorry
Lauren.
We
have
a
good
proposal,
there's
a
lot
of
mitigation
measures
again
we're
adaptively
reusing
the
site,
so
we
have
a
limit
on
Amplified
music,
that's
for
the
event
space
we're
using
acoustical
glass
inserts
on
the
interior
side
of
the
stainless
windows.
For
the
conference
space.
We
were
solid
fillings
within
any
openings
in
the
brick
on
the
west
side
of
the
deck
we
have
tongue
and
group
construction
of
rough
Cedar,
Sound,
mitigating
fencing
on
the
boundary
line.
F
W
C
X
C
Well,
so
the
this
taken
together
with
the
reduced
hours
of
operation
and
the
current
elevated
sound
levels,
the
property
some
may
think
this
is
Walcott,
but
it's
also
9d.
So
ultimately,
it's
a
major
Urban
arterial
roadway.
So
we've
done
everything.
You
know
these
hours
of
operation,
the
total
event
capacity.
All
the
pieces
have
been
done
to
effectively
help
also
reduce
noise
on
the
site,
whether
it
was
attendees
entering
exiting
Vehicles
entering
exiting
trucks
entering
or
exiting
so
there's
been
a
lot
done
there
I
don't
know
my
growth
is
anything
one.
A
Minute
version,
just
two
two
things
I
would
add
to
what
Taylor
said:
I've
been
checking
them
off
as
you
go.
One
is
the
limit
on
the
hours
set
to
dispersal
occurs
by
not
you
know
well
before
9
pm,
which
is
the
limit
of
daytime
hours
in
the
city,
ordinance
and
then
the
second
is
the
hotel
and
church
buildings
themselves,
particularly
the
hotel
will
act
as
barriers
too,
to
sound
anything
that
occurs
between
them.
We're
sort
of
at
an
angle.
A
For
example,
you
know
West
End
Lofts
is
actually
sort
of
behind
at
an
angle
to
where
the
hotel
will
extend,
because
it's
it's
going
to
be
the
the
building.
That's
there
now
and
then
that
building
will
extend
Westward,
roughly
Westward.
So
that's
another
thing
that
I
would
add
is
both.
Buildings
will
also
add
to
the
noise
attenuation
on
site
or
sound
attenuation.
B
G
B
M
B
T
K
I
have
a
question
reflecting
concerns
from
the
River
Ridge
Neighbors
in
particular,
about
the
fence.
To
me,
it
seems
like
offense
is
a
good
idea
for
maintaining
traffic.
You
know
keeping
people
from
trespassing,
which
is
another
concern
of
your
neighbors
I.
Think
the
visual
impact
of
the
fence
is
sound.
It's
from
comments.
It's
a
concern.
F
K
The
fence
off
of
the
property
line
so
that
you
could
have
planting
on
both
sides.
I
know
it's
unconventional.
Usually
the
fence
is
on
the
property
line,
but
you
could,
since
you're
doing
a
a
planted
border
along
the
south,
in
particular.
If
the
fence
were
bounded
on
both
sides
by
planting
it
might
ease
the
impact.
C
K
B
G
G
With
regard
to
what
I've
heard
from
the
neighbors
that
are
directly
on
that
property
line,
there's
a
couple
that
have
told
me
personally
that
they
want
to
fence,
and
some
said
they
haven't
I've
communicated
with
with
Betty
about
you
know
what
their
preference
is
and
I
I
think
she
said
that
they
now
have
a
clear
preference,
but
and
also
John
Clark
had
suggested
a
solution
with
a
instead
of
a
a
wood
fence.
Have
a
metal
fence
that
you
can
actually
see
through
also
so
that
to
me
would
be
a
good
suggestion
as
well.
G
B
C
I
think
it
worked
you
two
to
that
point.
We
did.
You
know
a
good
suggestion
of
the
Neighbors
on
The
View
and
not
so
much
basically
the
view
some
from
Hammond
Plaza.
We
did
also
remove
the
Trail
component
through
the
cemetery
as
well,
so
I
mean
it's
more
than
just
the
concerns,
but
we've
tried
to
address
that
from
a
broader
scope,
so
I
think
that
also
helps
mitigate.
Not
just
you
know
from
a
again
concern
of
trespassing.
B
F
B
C
I
think
one
highlight
I
would
just
say:
Mr
chairman,
then
we'll
certainly
defer
to
any
other
questions.
We're
open,
go
back
to
the
public
hearing
format
is
that
this
project
has
been
substantially
mitigated.
This
is
we've
seen
Alternatives
after
Alternatives
and
analyzes.
That's
something
that
you
would
do
throughout
the
process,
whether
it
was
through
a
positive
or
otherwise
to
get
this
distilled
down
to
its
current
duration.
C
So
we're
we've
tried
to
mitigate
to
an
extent
practical
and
some
cases
more
than
to
ensure
that
we're
you
know:
building
a
good
neighborly
environment
while
of
course
preserving
historic
character
and
things
that
we've
discussed
for
many
months.
So
we've
been
before
you
for
a
few
years
now,
and
certainly
we're
hoping
has.
C
So
it's
it's
come
a
long
way
from
the
500
people
and
11
p.m,
and
we
hope
the
public.
You
know
we're
still
listening,
we're
still
working
on
this.
We
want
to
make
this
happen,
but
you
know
these
are
things
that'll
be
you
know
this
will
be
a
NASA,
not
a
you
know.
If
you
don't
want
to
see
the
church
go
and
it's
all
a
lot
of
things
that
can
help
really
work
in
the
fabric
of
this
city.
B
Yeah,
you
know,
I
I
was
thinking
the
other
day,
something
like
this,
while
obviously
there
are
distinct.
Concerns
have
been
they've
been
expressed,
but
you
know
in
somewhat
of
a
mind,
shift
to
considering
something
like
this
is
an
opportunity
right.
So
a
couple
things
you
know
I've
gotten
to
know
many
more
of
my
neighbors
through
this
process,
and
you
know
if
you
think
about
the
types
of
events
and
again,
when
you
say
event,
it's
somewhat
of
a
loaded
word
right
sounds
huge
right.
B
It
sounds
scary,
but
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
asked
about
you
know:
chamber
orchestra,
it's
one
of
the
things
I
miss
I,
don't
get
to
go
to
the
symphony
in
the
city
anymore,
there's
no
time
for
it,
but
you
know
one
of
those
things
that
brings
of
value
to
all
of
us.
The
full
community
to
an
area
like
this,
with
as
limited
impact
as
possible,
is
a
win-win
right
to
be
able
to
on
a
nice.
B
A
K
B
F
X
X
C
C
F
L
Mean
the
traffic
and
parking
management
plan
is,
is
really
their
layout
laid
out
to
address
all
types
of
events,
including
that
specific
scenario.
We
may
have
more
drop
off
and
pick
up
in
that
type
of
scenario.
But
that's
we
did
a
queuing
analysis
for
that.
Eventual
a
possible
eventuality
that
identified
that
we
really
wouldn't
have
more
than
six
cars
queued,
that's
what
we
can
store,
but
in
the
off
chance
that
that
does
happen.
We
could
use
utilize
two
lanes
for
a
drop-off
to
address
that.
B
X
Well,
the
logical
thing
for
them
to
do
is
just
drop
off
in
front
of
River
Ridge.
Instead,
so
you'll
still
have
people
stopping
on
9d
and
dropping
people
off
it.
Just
won't
be
in
front
of
your
site
and
I
don't
see
any
solution
to
that
that
anybody's
come
up
with.
You
could
put
no
stopping
or
standing
signs
in
front
of
River
Ridge
and
West
End
Lofts
that
might
help
they
might
have
a
cop
sit
out
there.
G
C
Have
to
plan
for
the
worst
case.
It's
the
job
is
highlighting
one
of
those
and
that's
not
really
a
worst
case.
In
this
instance,
there
are
parking
spaces
along
the
there's.
It
proposed
them.
The
current
traffic
plan
that's
being
considered
for
the
city
right,
there's
additional
on-street
parking,
that's
considered
in
the
area
again,
notwithstanding
all
of
the
other
factors
that
people
may
have
been
walking
from
dinner
or
elsewhere
in
the
city
to
come
to
the
event.
So
we're
certainly
planning
for
that.
We're
certainly
trying
to
utilize
that,
but.
X
H
B
B
I
mean
it's:
it's
all
of
these
types
of
eventualities,
right.
That
I
think
you
know
in
our
Quiet
Moments.
We
think,
oh
what
about
that?
What
about
this
right?
And
you
certainly
can't
plan
for
every
single
potential
eventuality,
but
we
want
to.
We
want
to
try
to
make
sure
that
we
address
as
many
as
we
can.
We
I
feel
like
we
played
pretty.
G
M
B
M
They
don't
they
don't
generally
regulate
religious
cemeteries,
but
they
really
don't
regulate
former
religious
cemeteries
that
are
now
owned
by
a
private
property
owner
and
that
their
response
was
we'd.
Love
to
see
it
mode
twice
a
year
at
least
we'd
love
to
see
a
fence
maintained
around
it
and
have
it
be
kept
up,
but
I
think
people
have
been
the
Public's
been
asking
questions.
M
What's
gonna
happen
with
the
cemetery
I,
don't
know
if
we
have
a
detailed
plan
of
what's
happening
with
the
cemetery
and
it's
it
Bears
everybody
being
aware
of
the
fact
that
there's
essentially
no
requirements
from
the
state
for
the
upkeep
of
the
cemetery.
So
it's
really
it
it's.
You
know
it's
an
open-ended
thing.
I'll.
B
B
G
Discussing
the
cemetery
and
how
how
to
approach
this
and
with
restoration,
experts
and
preservationists,
and
it's
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
lot
to
to
do
where
and
you
want
to
take
it
on,
and
it's
going
to
take
some
time.
But
our
we're
definitely
like
from
the
very
beginning.
We
want
to
treat
it
with
as
much
respect
as
possible
and
for
the
people
that
have
been
laid
to
rest
there
and
it
deserves
better
than
it
has
now
by
far
well.
M
In
keeping
with
what
you
said,
John
about
you
know
what
about
a
perspective
shift
where
we
look
at
the
benefits
of
the
projects,
including
you
know,
the
benefits
of
the
community
and
I
guess
the
question
is
there
may
need
to
be
some
concrete
details
that
address
some
of
what
people
have
expressed
as
their
important
concerns?
Some
some
members
of
the
public
in
their
letters
have
talked
about
the
wildlife
in
the
cemetery
area
as
being
a
concern.
M
So
maybe
you
know
if
the
applicant
is
offering
you
know
concrete
actions
for
the
cemetery
as
a
as
a
you
know,
public
benefit
of
the
project.
You
know,
maybe
it's
maybe
it's
getting
a
biologist
or
and
protecting
the
diversity.
You
know
more
than
it
is
immediately
restoring
you
know,
headstones
I,
don't
know,
but
I'm
just
saying
that
as
I'm
putting
that
the
first
part
of
my
question,
the
board
was,
do
we
feel,
do
you
know?
M
F
M
Think
members
of
the
public
have
talked
about
you
know:
we've
got
slates
falling
off
of
the
steeple
and
it's
that's
not
an
easy
element
to
get
to
to,
but
you
know
do
we
have?
Are
there
going
to
be
specific,
concrete
commitments
to
you
know
priority
Renovations
on
the
church,
building
through
the
event
space
that
that
you
know
they're
going
to
be
built
into
the
are.
M
J
J
B
That's
why
I
say
as
far
as
the
as
far
as
what
the
applicant
has
expressed
to
us
in
terms
of
their
approach
to
the
maintenance
and
the
upkeep
of
the
cemetery
I
understand
it
and
I'm
satisfied:
okay,
it's
codified
and
it
will
be
part
of
the
approved
plans
and
will
carry
there'll
be
a
requirement
of
your
approval
to
do
so.
So
what
are
you
asking
is.
X
I
found
those
those
to
be
pretty
vague
and
so
I
asked
for
more
specifics.
What
does
it
mean
all
their
all
they're
committing
to?
There
is
picking
up
branches
and
cleaning
out
dead
wood.
That's
not
maintenance
to
me.
So
I
would
like
to
see
some
more
specifics
about.
Are
they
gonna,
you
know,
keep
the
grass
down
or
are
they
going
to
have
to
clean
out
dead
wood
yeah.
G
We
we
did
out
on
this
in
a
prior
meeting
as
well,
but
I'll
repeat
them
here
so-
and
this
is
this
is
after
contacting
historians
and
preservationists,
who
have
have
made
it
clear
that
we
should
follow
this
approach.
So
number
one
is
to
clean
up
the
premises
to
remove
any
debris.
Fallen
branches,
dead,
trees,
garbage
Etc,
and
we
this
has
actually
already
begun
and
will
continue.
G
Number
two
is
to
work
with
the
Specialists,
the
native
and
or
and
or
historic
vegetation
restoration
to
conduct
an
existing
vegetation
assessment
to
recommend
how
to
address
and
manage
the
site,
and
then
number
three
is
to
assess
headstones
and
monuments,
to
document
descriptions
and
existing
conditions.
Premises
and
number
four
is
as
appropriate:
conduct
further
landscape
restoration
prior
to
or
after
headstone
restoration
work,
with
Cemetery
restoration
experts
recommended
by
the
beacon,
Historical,
Society
or
preservation
group
in
connection
with
any
headstone
repairs
and
any
work
to
restore
and
place
any
headstones
in
their
original
location.
As.
B
C
K
G
C
B
B
M
That's
well.
No
that's.
That
was
the
second
part
of
my
question
was
any
any
priority.
Church
structure
Renovations
that
are
I,
don't
recall
if
we
have
stuff
on
any
of
the
plans
that
commit
to
like
say,
repairing
the
loose
slates
on
the
steeple
or
anything
that's
been
identified
by
neighbors
as
gosh.
That
seems,
like
maybe
that's
kind
of
a
priority.
One.
C
Yeah
from
a
secret
standpoint,
I,
don't
think
that's
going
to
change
the
discussion
from
the
environmental
impacts,
but
we're
absolutely
going.
You
know,
shippos
reviewed
our
proposal
and
agreed
that
we're
not
we're
consistent
and
not
I
mean
the
impact
on
historic
structure,
but
I
can't
I'm
looking
to
REI
in
case
there's
specific
items
that
have
been
reviewed
in
existing
building.
That
would
be,
you
know.
First
line
of
preservation
we've
identified,
for
example
the
things
on
the
inside
that
would
be
done
to
help
mitigate.
F
B
B
U
X
I
think
there
should
be
at
least
a
note
on
the
plan
in
terms
of
repairing
maintenance
of
the
roof
and
other
materials
for
safety
concerns,
so
that
you
know
we
don't
have
to
wait
for
instructions
drawings.
We
have
something
on
the
site
plan
that
guarantees
that
you're
going
to
take
care
of
here.
Next.
G
N
C
B
Z
B
B
B
M
B
B
B
Thank
you
for
all
of
the
Public's
thoughts
concerns
attention
on
this
and
all
of
the
applications
I
will
I
will
add,
though,
that
best
you
can,
if
you've
already
made
comments
that,
if
you
have
new
things
to
add,
please
do,
but
you
don't
find
it
necessary
to
repeat
yourself
because
again,
we've
taken
in
all
of
this
we've
heard
every
every
note,
every
item
and
so
not
necessary
to
again
repeat
yourself,
but
anyone
here
to
comment
on
this
application.
You're
welcome
to.
AA
AA
AA
AA
The
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
talk
about
was
the
parking
which
I
have
mentioned,
but
I
thought
enough
to
mention
it
again,
because
the
fellow
who
does
the
traffic
survey
here
did
the
parking
and
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago
he
was
telling
us
we
could
park
72
cars
across
from
the
fire
department
there.
Well
we
had
the
mayor.
I
was
talking
to
the
mayor
and
I
watched
the
town
meeting.
AA
AA
As
a
good
Act
of
Faith
of
the
church-
and
you
can
see
that
it
hasn't
been
done,
especially
for
handicapped
people
and
or
other
people
in
front
of
that
building,
that
should
be
the
hotel
that
sidewalk
hasn't
been
repaired.
I
can't
run
over
it.
In
my
wheelchair,
okay
I
mean
just
as
an
act
of
good
faith.
Everybody
walks
over
it
every
day.
It's
like
it's,
it's
it's,
it's
all
torn
up,
I,
don't
know
John
if
you've
been
there
walked
across
it.
AA
Yet
to
me,
that's
something
that
should
have
been
taken
care
of,
and
the
other
thing
is,
is
the
ho
the
the
church
which
is
now
part
of
this
thing,
but
I
don't
think
it's
should
be
open
for
events
right
at
this
point
because
it
isn't
I,
don't
think
it's
building
worthy
okay!
It's
got
two
little
bathrooms
in
it
to
a
country
accommodate
people
that
are
going
to
go
in
there
to
accommodate
weddings
or
are
they
having
things
going
on
there
now?
AA
E
B
H
H
C
C
Section
of
your
zoning
code
that
does
not
prohibit
that
use
on
a
commercial
lot
on
a
residential
lot.
The
accessory
use
could
not
be
utilized
prior
to
a
principal
use.
This
is
a
commercial.
What
we're
developing
on
the
site
is
not
a
residential
use.
There's
a
specific
section
in
the
zoning
code
22314e
that
speaks
to
accessory
buildings
on
residential
lots.
So
there
is
only
a
Prohibition
related
to
that
notwithstanding
to
city
attorney's
Point
again,
this
is
an
existing
use
on.
A
S
C
B
Prolonged
period
of
time,
so
I
think
what
we're
what
we're
getting
at
is
that
this
special
permit
is
for
the
specific
uses
we've
been
talking
about
the
past
two
years
and,
of
course,
drilled
into
tonight.
Correct
right!
So
you
you
so
the
question
being
once
we
you
know,
get
to
an
approval
on
this
full
application.
B
C
C
In
fact,
it
explicitly
limits
that
operation
to
residential
uses,
not
commercial
uses,
so
the
the
intent
of
the
applicant
would
be
to
renovate
that
space
while
developing
the
hotel,
but
be
able
to
again
utilize
that
space
to
the
extent
that
would
be
approved
by
this
board,
while
that
process
is
taking
place.
If.
Z
C
Is
a
temporary
condition,
we're
not
suggesting
like
did
if
if
the
board
saw
fit,
it
could
say
that
that
could
that
could
operate
if,
if
the
time
frame
to
build
out
the
building
which
I'll
ask
Arya
to
speak
to
separately
or
we
can
put
in
a
supplemental
response-
is
to
be
built
within
one
year,
I'm
just
setting
a
time
frame
that
it
could
only
be
utilized
up
to
one
year
while
this
building
is
being
built.
So
it's
not
a
sort
of
carp
launch
to
utilize
that
space
in
perpetuity.
But
it's
it's
effectively.
B
U
B
B
Right
so
so,
let's
go
there
right.
What
I'm
hearing
is.
There
are
a
number
of
us
who
had
the
Instinct
that,
because
the
special
the
uses
under
the
special
permit
for
the
church
space,
where
accessory
uses
to
the
hotel
that
those
accessory
uses
wouldn't
be
able
to
kick
in
until
you
had
the
hotel
built,
understood.
C
I
think
the
different
understanding,
as
far
as,
if
I
made
just
the
specific
the
development
plan
on
this
site.
That
would
make
absolute
sense
if
this
was
a
blank
slate
right,
where
you're
building
two
new
buildings
and
you're
constructing
out
the
site.
Here,
the
hotel
is
not
renovating
the
church.
The
hotel
is
running
Banning,
the
parsonage,
it's
a
much
more
there's
a
significant
undertaking.
B
M
There's
a
clear
issue
here,
though,
right
off
the
bat
in
that
some
of
the
representations
that
the
applicant
has
made
example
like
will,
traffic
impacts
will
be
reduced
because
most
of
the
attendees
will
be
staying
in
the
hotel.
Those
things
go
up
in
a
puff
of
smoke.
If
you
start
using
the
event
space
before
the
hotel
is
constructed.
So
just.
C
And
if
I
may
we're
trying
to
regulate
the
use
more
than
what
is
so
today
at
the
site,
there
are
no
regulations
right
for
the
religious
use,
so
I
think.
We've
we've
discussed
this
throughout
the
process
that
the
applicants
proposal
implements
a
number
of
restrictions,
much
more
stringent
than
what
are
presently
placed
on
the
church.
C
Building,
so
I
think
we'd
have
to
build
out
the
access
points
and
and
the
site
circulation
and
the
function
would
have
to
be
there
to
be
able
to
do
that,
but
ultimately
we're
simply
seeking,
during
the
interim
of
the
building
out
of
the
hotel
that
it'd
be
able
to
be
utilized
in
the
alternative,
then
we'll
have
to
rely
on
the
existing
permission,
but
it
isn't
subject
to
all
these
regulations
in
that
dependency
in
that
in
that
period,
between
the
approval
and
when
the
hotel
is
built.
So
we're
trying
to
come
up
with
a
look.
H
S
Church,
yes
and
I've
I've
said
before
that
the
church
is
allowed
to
operate
as
a
church.
Up
until
point
of
whether
or
not
the
planning
work,
you
know
those.
If
they
approve
this,
then
you
know
it
will
go
up
on
their
approval,
but
again
I
I,
just
I'm.
Having
concerns
you
know
again:
I
read
the
code.
I
see
the
faces
accessory
to
the
hotel
right,
but
in
the
same
term
we're
also
talking
your
sound
Consulting.
It
says
the
hotel
is
part
of
your
sound
mitigation.
D
S
B
Don't
do
this
to
be
overly
strident
for
no
reason
there
are
times,
especially
at
night
and
late
at
night,
that
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
addressing
the
specific
points
and
that
we're
maintaining
a
train
of
thought
because
you
may
not
believe
it,
but
it
takes
a
lot
of
kind
of
brain
space
to
make
sure
we're
following
the
very
specific
and
sometimes
really
useful
conversations
here.
So
forgive
me
for
interrupting
you
all.
B
B
T
B
U
C
I
think
we
understand-
and
you
know
obviously
that's
the
board's
directive,
so
we're
we're
here
to
to
hear
those
comments
and
work
through
it.
So
naturally,
if
the
board,
as
highlighted
by
the
attorney
by
Bruce,
they
have
the
ability
to
condition
it.
So
if
that's
the
directive,
then
we
will.
We
would
just
see
confirmation
that,
of
course,
the
church
space
can
continue
to
be
occupied
as
such
until
such
time
as
the
co
was
issued.
I.
B
N
AA
B
Q
F
Q
Q
This
is
a
repeat
of
the
what
ifs
rhetoric
that
we've
heard
before
we've
sorted
through
endless
presentations
of
the
applicant,
bringing
countless
revisions
of
their
proposal
to
the
table.
The
only
consistency
is
their
failure
to
provide
a
remedy
that
will
protect
area
residents
from
noise
pollution,
traffic
congestion
and
trespassing.
Allowing
this
type
of
unmanageable
and
unenforceable
project
into
this
location
will
make
it
impossible
to
make
them
change
course.
If
you
are
to
allow
them
a
trial
period,
as
was
in
some
of
the
documentations
from
the
planner.
Q
The
best
course
of
action
is
to
flat
out
deny
a
special
use,
permit
and
site
plan
approval.
This
will
not
only
have
a
long,
lasting
impact
on
all
neighboring
residents,
but
on
every
resident
and
visiting
tours
flocking
to
the
city,
bringing
an
unrealistic
traffic
congestion
at
all
hours
of
the
day
and
night
on
this
already
busy
route.
90
Corridor
at
this
location.
You've
asked
your
experts
and
there
is
no,
not
a
one-fix
solution.
Q
Tonight
we
heard
7
30
end
time
and
8
PM
off
the
grounds
personally,
I've
never
been
to
a
family
or
a
friend
Gathering,
where
I've
rushed
out
without
interacting
and
chatting
to
recap
the
event
we
heard
tonight,
150
attendees
two
times
a
day
with
one
and
a
half
hours
to
load
in
and
out
between
events
to
me,
that
is
a
continuous
200
to
300
people
a
day
dig
back
into
the
notes
where
the
city's
own
planner
States
it's
a
good
repurpose
of
the
building,
but
the
wrong
location
for
this
type
of
event.
Space.
Q
AD
Hi
Claire
Reed
from
Hammond
Plaza
I,
appreciate
you
doing
the
Open
Session
tonight
I
found
that
helpful
I
had
two
concerns
from
directly
from
what
I
heard
tonight.
One
was
regarding
the
cemetery.
I
thought
the
the
things
they
said
they
were
going
to
do
with
Cemetery
actually
sounded
very
good.
My
concern
was
that
there
was
one
line
if
I
heard
it
correctly
was
something
too
effective,
as
funds
become
available
to
me,
that's
a
giant
caveat.
That's
if
we
don't
have
funds,
what
happens?
AD
Can
they
just
say
who
determines
you
know
we
don't
have
the
funds
now.
Does
it
ever
happen?
Do
we
ever
have
the
funds?
The
other
thing
was
regarding
the
trial
basis
like
for
the
traffic
studies,
the
monitoring
after
a
certain
number
of
whatever
six
months.
You
know
12
months,
whatever
even
the
events,
who's
monitoring,
it
I
kind
of
think
it's
I,
don't
know
if
I'm
comfortable
with
them
monitoring
their
own
Solutions.
AD
AD
You
only
have
to
go
to
an
airport
once
to
see
people
dropping
people
off
and
the
people
with
the
whistles
and
they
have
tons
of
people
trying
to
move
people
along
at
the
drop-off
points
and
departure
and
arrival
Gates,
and
it's
not
effective
I,
don't
see
how
one
person,
or
even
two
people
on
Walcott
are
going
to
be
any
more
effective,
and
it's
not
just
one
side
of
Walcott.
It's
going
to
be
both
sides
of
Walcott
and
you
can
have
people
trying
to
cross
I.
AD
Just
think
it's
going
to
be
a
nightmare
and
I'd
like
to
see.
My
concern
is
if
it's
a
problem
down
the
road,
it's
six
months
down
the
road
and
this
has
been
happening.
What
are
they
going
to
do?
If
you
don't
have
a
solution
in
advance
and
then
it's
not
working
six
months
down
the
road,
what
do
you
do?
Do
you
pull
back?
Do
you
say?
Okay,
now
we
close
up
shop,
it's
already
done,
I!
Think
that's
too
late.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
E
Hi
Shelley
Simmons,
Bloom,
30,
Beekman
Street,
the
view
I
just
I've
cut
all
my
notes.
The
one
thing
I
wanted
to
say
was
really
just
to
understand
what
happens
if
this
project
is
given
the
go-ahead?
Can
the
applicant
then
return
to
the
city
at
a
later
date
to
plead
operational
changes?
So
do
130
events
a
year
revert
to
360,
which
was
the
original
proposal.
Do
the
hours
of
operation
revert
to
an
end
time
of
11
30
p.m?
E
Does
the
maximum
capacity
change
from
150
to
500
people
I
just
think
it's
important
that
we
never
lose
sight
of
the
original
intention
for
the
church,
which
is
a
late
night
event,
space
for
500
people
shoehorned
into
a
residential
neighborhood,
because
I'm
sure
the
applicant
and
their
investors
won't
forget
that
I've
heard
them
say
a
number
of
times
that
what
else
will
happen
to
this
church?
It
will
it
will,
you
know,
be
destroyed,
it
will,
you
know,
go
to
rack
and
ruin,
but
I
think
as
a
community.
E
We
really
don't
believe
that
it's
a
historic
property
and
I
think
it
would
be
a
very
desirable
place
for
the
community
with
the
right
partners
and
also
just
to
re-emphasize
what
Claire
said
about
the
post
monitoring
period.
It
doesn't
seem
fair
that
it's
upon
incumbent
upon
the
community
to
feel
the
impact
and
the
pain
of
going
through
a
post-monitoring
period
when
will
be
the
ones
that
feel
the
impact
of
it,
because
our
quality
of
life
at
the
end
of
the
day
will
be
the
ones
that
will
be
most
greatly
impacted.
E
B
P
Matt
Bloom
The
View
thanks
very
much
I
I
I'm
not
going
to
read
my
letter.
I
submitted
it
I.
Just
the
two
points
is
one
is:
it
seems
that
prophecy
theater
went
ahead,
bought
this
property
without
knowing
that
they
could
actually
use
it
for
what
they
intended
to.
So
my
question
rhetorical
question
is:
why
is
it
incumbent
on
us
to
sacrifice
our
peace
and
our
Tranquility
in
our
our
well-being
to
make
their
dream
come
true?
P
The
other
thing
is
I'm,
not
sure
how
you
could
Grant
a
special
approval,
a
special
use
approval
when
we
don't
really
know
what
it
is.
It's
changed
so
many
times
it's
a
conference
center,
Wedding
Center.
What
kind
of
music,
if
I
think
you
know,
certainly
classical
music.
There
would
be
great,
but
we
have
Helen
the
Howland
Center
for
that.
So
I
just
don't
know
what
I'm
still
confused.
That's
all
I'm
saying
thanks
very
much.
Thank
you.
V
Alex
service
to
Academy
place,
I've
spoken
before
I
think
the
Crux
of
it
boils
down
to.
We
don't
have
to
trust
them.
There's
going
to
be
permitting
rules,
regulations
on
the
usage
of
how
the
building
can
be
used
and
the
truth
is
as
grown-ups.
We
have
to
self-monitor
our
community,
it
doesn't
matter
at
some
point:
something
happens
in
the
community.
It's
an
important!
It's
a
point
upon
us
to
be
able
to
call
whoever
has
to
be
called.
If
that
happens,
so
it
doesn't
matter
whether
we
trust
them
or
not.
V
There's
rules,
regulations
permitting
there
are
going
to
be
send
place
the
board,
it's
generally
its
job,
making
sure
all
the
little
details
are
followed
to
make
sure
that
the
everything
is
under
order.
If
it's
not
there,
then
you
call
that's
it
and
there
of
Prophecy
Investment
Group
is
very
invested
in
it,
making
sure
that
they
are
going
to
follow
those
rules
and
regulations,
so
they
are
not
in
violation
and
loser
permitting
and
lose
their
usage
of
the
space.
Thank
you
thank.
B
AE
Betty
Wall
eight
River
Ridge
Court
for
nearly
two
years
I've
been
attending
these
hearings
for
the
prophecy
theater,
a
commercial
project
which
clearly
belongs
on
main
street
or
in
an
industrial
area
with
sufficient
on-site
parking,
not
shoehorned
between
four
residential
quiet
developments
and
across
the
street
from
many
private
homes.
Those
of
us
who
will
be
most
negatively
impacted
by
this
proposal
and
even
those
who
live
further
away,
have
expressed
their
concerns
time
and
time
again
and
instead
of
the
applicant
working
with
his
lawyers
and
consultants
and
the
community
to
come
back
with
viable
Solutions.
AE
Regarding
our
quality
of
life
issues,
we
get
double
talk
for
now
they
have
reduced
operating
hours
and
maximum
capacity.
Although
now
they
have
finally
admitted
that
there
is
the
intention
to
have
multiple
events.
So
it's
not
150
people
per
day.
It
could
be
hundreds
of
people
per
day
coming
and
going
our
biggest
concern.
AE
Over
the
years
we
have
heard
mention
of
shuttle
buses
with
no
clear
explanation
of
how
those
would
work
and
not
cause
even
more
disturbance
to
the
neighbors
parking
leases
that
have
never
materialized
cemetery
and
church
restoration,
but
no
concrete
plans
hiring
a
few
security
people
for
large
events,
but
no
explanation
of
what
those
security
people
would
actually
do.
Assuming
two
or
three
security
people
are
able
and
willing
to
get
150
attendees
off
the
prophecy
grounds
in
a
half
hour.
How
will
they
prevent
attendees
from
moving
on
to
neighbors
property?
AE
They
can't
how
will
they
prevent
attendees
from
creating
noise
disturbances
as
large
crowds
come
and
go
at
the
same
time
they
can't
in
all
this
time
there
has
been
no
real
vision
for
protecting
the
neighbors
speaking
as
a
resident
of
River
Ridge
views.
I
have
no
doubt
that
on
a
daily
basis,
there
will
be
large
groups
of
event,
attendees
bar
and
cafe
patrons
and
hotel
guests
coming
onto
River
Ridge
property
with
no
mechanism
to
stop
them.
AE
We
have
given
them
ample
opportunity
to
present
a
plan
that
the
community
could
live
with
and
they
have
failed
to
do
that.
This
proposal
does
not
meet
the
special
permit
conditions
under
Section,
223-1881
and
223-2470
and
I.
Ask
that
you
consider
how
much
is
at
stake
here
for
the
residents
and
make
a
positive
declaration,
so
the
community
can
live
in
peace.
Thank
you
to
the
board
and
Mr
Clark
for
your
time
and
consideration.
AF
AF
Proposal
we've
been
in
the
same
questions
and
I
understand
everyone's
frustrations
because
it
also
speaks
to
the
public.
So
this
I
don't
know
what
happened
with
this
one
hour,
because
it's
the
same
thing
and
we've
talked
about
all
this
I
would
also
say:
if
the
primary
use
is
a
hotel
I,
don't
we
don't
have
a
shorts
Maybe
like
this
anticipated
room
rate?
What
is
the
vision
for
the
hotel?
AF
AF
So
can
we
just
go
to
room
rates
and
how
is
this
possible
that
the
church
is
still
active
with
no
Co,
no
special
permit,
no
liability
and
it's
just
happening
in
front
of
our
faces,
and
what
is
that
showing
to
the
community
and
everybody
so
I'm,
sorry,
Mr
gone
I'm,
sorry
to
all
of
you,
but
also
we
have
to
sit
here
and
listen
to
the
same
thing
over
and
over.
He
was
supposed
to
come
here
today
with
his
eyes,
dotted
his
T's
done.
I
was
just
lecturing
my
four
five-year-old
nephew.
It's
a
graduation
day.
U
D
They
also
go
to
the
point
and
say:
if
we
don't
do
it,
it's
going
to
fall
into
bad
disrepair,
yet
nothing
has
been
done
and
there
are
no
specifics
as
to
what
will
be
done
in
the
near
future.
I
know
this
evening.
They
talked
about
a
couple
of
specifics,
but
they
were
sort
of
I
thought
wishy-washy.
Meanwhile,
the
church
steeple
is
shedding
slate
shingles.
The
cemetery
is
in
deplorable
condition
and
the
sidewalk
along
Walcott.
D
B
E
Neighbor
from
West
End
Lofts,
who
submitted
a
letter
this
afternoon,
and
we
realized
it-
was
too
late
to
include
it
in
the
package.
I
just
wondered
if
I
could
very
quickly
read
it.
It's
very
short:
it's
from
Marilyn
Joseph
to
Liam
Drive.
She
couldn't
be
here
tonight
for
health
reasons,
but
she
asked
that
this
letter
be
read.
So
her
questions
are.
Why
do
we
need
this
venue?
What
is
it
bringing
to
our
community?
We
already
have
three
hotels
in
town
I
know
of
we
already
have
many
cafes
and
restaurants
and
more
opening
all
the
time.
E
We
already
have
many
popular
music
venues
in
town
and
nearby
and
music
festivals.
We
already
have
a
very
Community
supportive,
Event
Center,
the
Howland
Center.
That
holds
a
variety
of
events
that
are
well
attended.
I,
don't
care
about
their
concessions,
they
are
just
it's
not
my
words
they're,
just
political
pandering.
The
proposed
venue
will
destroy
our
residential
neighborhood
and
I
bet.
It
brings
property
values
down
P.S.
If
I
remember
my
HS
science,
doesn't
water
carry
found
and
aren't
we
on
the
banks
of
the
House
of
the
Hudson?
Thank
you
thank.
E
D
C
Is
so
I
think
a
lot
of
there's
a
lot
of
questions
that
came
up
or
comments
that
came
up?
Naturally,
the
applicant
is
generally
constricted
of
what
they
can
do
on
a
site
while
pending
an
approval,
so
there's
a
lot
that
can
be
done,
but
I
think
we're.
The
whole
purpose
of
this
process
is
to
implement
a
full
plan
and
not
to
do
something
and
then
undo
it
to
redo
it
so
I
know
there's
a
lot
there.
I.
Think
importantly,
what's.
F
S
C
F
K
M
F
AB
Aye,
thank
you
Jane
Riley
for
Stratford
Avenue,
since
we're
at
the
point
of
closing
the
public
comments.
I
wanted
to
just
say,
I
do
appreciate
the
word
of
the
board.
The
work
and
the
work
of
the
applique
I
still
don't
support
this
I.
Don't
support
a
30
room.
Hotel
I!
Don't
support
a
bar.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
M
AF
B
AF
E
B
C
A
C
Thank
you
for
the
public
comments.
Obviously,
we've
been
listening,
we've
been
trying
to
to
Really
mitigate
this
project
and
reduce
it
down
to
a
scale
and
scope
that
is
representative
of
comments
that
we've
received
from
the
neighbors
from
the
very
beginning
of
the
process.
So
we
do
appreciate
the
public
comments
and
the
boards
work
with
us
to
make
this
project
in
the
reduced
scale
that
it
is
I
just
know.
If
the
board
would
see
fit
understanding
we've
gone
through
a
lot
of
the
secret
materials.
C
B
N
F
H
K
D
A
Z
B
K
X
T
X
Scope,
it
has
a
negative
declaration.
It
moves
on
to
the
approval
of
the
question
of
approval
of
the
special
apartment
and
site
plan,
there's
sort
of
four
options
that
might
be
more
but
I
see
four
options
on
the
special
permit.
The
board
could
consider
they
could
approve
it
as
proposed.
They
could
approve
it
with
conditions
which
we.
X
Have
conditions
if
we
do
it
approval?
You
can
also
approve
segments
of
it
or
sections
of
it.
There's
three
uses
proposed
on
the
property,
you
could
say:
okay,
the
the
hotel
and
the
cafe
are
consists,
or
the
hotel
and
Cafe
are
consistent,
but
the
event
space
is
not
or
that
the
event
space
is
only
consistent
if
the
hours
have
changed.
B
X
The
capacity
has
changed
or
whatever
so
there's,
there's
sort
of
more
creative
conditions,
not
just
minor
condition,
but
The
Proposal
changing
condition.
The
fourth
option
would
be
to
to
deny
it.
So
all
those
things
are
sort
of
on
the
table
at
this
point.
I
think
and
the
board
should
be
prepared
for
the
next
meeting
to
discuss
those
sort
of
where
you
stand
on
the
spectrum
of
those
choices.
Great.
B
C
Evening,
Mr
chairman
members
of
the
board,
Taylor
Palmer,
with
Cody
and
fader
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
tonight
I'm
joined
by
our
project
team.
As
the
chairman
stated,
we
are
before
you
in
connection
with
the
continued
review
of
our
site
plan
for
the
proposed
vacant
parcel
for
a
three-story
commercial
development.
We
appeared
before
you
all
in
May.
At
that
time
the
board
adopted
a
negative
secret
declaration
and
found
that
the
project
will
not
result
in
any
potentially
significant
adverse
environmental
impacts.
C
The
public
hearing
was
also
open
and
closed
at
that
meeting,
and
then
you
authorize
the
attorney
to
prepare
a
draft
resolution.
We
have
reviewed
that
draft
and
provided
very
minimal
comments
to
the
City
attorney.
We
did
include
a
supplemental
submission
to
all
that
had
minor
refinements
to
the
site
plan
set
if
Aria's
computer
hasn't
died
yet
good
still
up
there.
It
does
now
include
the
requested
building
elevations.
That
was
a
request
by
your
planner
and
then,
if
the
board
sees
fit,
I
can
certainly
have
Rea
walk
through
the
limited
updates,
but
otherwise
that's
the
concludes.
B
F
X
T
X
U
B
B
B
X
U
B
Okay,
so
I'll
accept
a
motion
to
adopt
this
resolution
for
site
plan
and
certificate
of
appropriate
approvals
for
536
Main
Street
motion
motion
by
Karen,
second,
second,
by
Kevin,
all
in
favor
aye
aye.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Okay,
with
that
we'll
move
to
our
next
agenda
item.
That
being
item
number
three
continue:
review
of
application
for
concept
plan
approval
we
can
hip
Lofts
and
Studios
Front
Street
submitted
by
Beacon
Loft
Lofts
LLC.
B
So
board
there's
two
things
that
we
can
work
on.
The
one
is
we
have
in
front
of
us:
the
secret
neg
deck
reason
supporting
determination
and
the
other
is
then
once
we
should.
We
adopt
that
then
sharing
our
thoughts
on
the
application
up
to
the
city
council.
So
let's
take
the
first
one,
any
any
input
or
thoughts
or
questions
around
the
neck
deck.
B
I'll
accept
a
motion
to
adopt
the
negative
declaration
motion
motion
by
David
second,
but
Karen,
all
in
favor
aye
aye.
So
then
the
second
piece
having
to
do
with
our
comments.
They
can
be
as
as
straightforward
as
we.
You
know
we
as
a
board
based
on
our
review,
find
this
application
acceptable
or
we
could
get
as
detailed
as
we
like.
Any
thoughts
on
that.
B
Z
Yeah
my
main
concerns,
if,
if
I'm
a
are
the
adjacency
to
this
to
and
it
how
it
to
the
creek
and
Public
Safety
for
flooding
in
that
area,
I
know
some
of
that
has
been
dealt
with
and
and
I
think
we
have
to
rely
on
the
engineers
reviews
for
that,
but
I
think
it's
a
sensitive
site
and
there
are
numerous
infrastructure
issues
with
the
existing
sewer
that
need
to
be
determined
and
worked
out.
As
far
as
the
infrastructure
goes.
Those
are
very
important.
Z
U
B
B
N
I
I
was
previously
a
little
concerned
about
the
land
being
parking.
One
thing
that's
changed
is
this
is
now
being
done
in
a
location
where
it
can
be
converted
back
into
parking
a
lot
more
easily,
which
I
think
is
a
significant
factor
because
plan,
if
you
quote
land,
make
the
parking,
but
you
build
something
on
it.
That's
going
to
be
costly
to
remove
kind
of
an
academic
exercise.
Yeah.
N
The
parking
the
land
main
parking
spots
were
in
a
different
location
on
the
map
that
was
separate
from
the
other
party
and
the
concern
that
kind
of
jumped
off
the
page
for
me
was
well.
The
way
this
is
going
to
work
in
real
life
is
five
years
from
now
someone's
going
to
build
something
on
here.
No
one's
even
going
to
remember
this
is
supposed
to
be
landing.
N
F
F
B
J
X
And
it
might
be
good
in
the
port
to
the
council.
Accounts
say
just
that.
You
have
a
positive
recommendation
on
the
concept
plan,
but
also
that
the
applicant
has
made
substantial
changes
in
terms
of
the
access
to
the
greenway
Trail
removal
of
barriers
for
handicap
access
rearrangement
of
parking,
so
that
there's
less
Asphalt
in
the
site,
more
land
bank,
more
Landscaping,
that
sort
of
thing
so
that
the
council
might
know
that
there
has
been
some
significant
progress
since
the
last
time
they.
K
One
concern
that
I
would
like
to
add,
you
know
and
I
think
it
would
conceptually
I
support
the
plan
once
it
gets
to
the
site
plan
level
of
detail.
I
think
that
as
a
sensitive
site
along
the
creek
I
would
like
to
see
additional
like
analysis
of
the
the
state
of
the
stream
Bank
itself
and
the
you
know
the
plantings
and
and
look
at
ways
to
you
know
stabilize.
J
B
T
B
H
H
B
D
F
U
H
C
We
are
before
you
for
our
continued
review
of
the
site
plan
and
lot
merger
application
for
a
proposed
mixed
use
on
the
site.
We
detailed
in
our
March
excuse
me
May
30th
letter
an
enclosed
architectural
drawings,
so
we
updated
the
front
of
the
building
and
formalized
the
building
design.
So
the
front
entrance
is
at
the
center
of
its
Frontage
along
Fishkill
Avenue,
to
encourage
activating
that
street
Frontage.
We've
now
included
some
turning
diagrams
that
illustrate
the
large
Vehicles,
we're
able
to
access
the
site
and
navigate
the
site
efficiently.
C
We
did
include
a
lift
and
a
sidewalk
leading
up
to
the
entrance
of
the
building
that
will
provide
additional
Ada
access.
Of
course,
we
also
have
it
in
the
back
in
the
parking
area.
Our
submission
also
now
includes
the
landscape
plan
developed
by
Deborah
adamson's.
So
there's
vegetation
and
Landscape
features
on
that
front
slope,
and
then
we
also
did
include
a
lighting
plan.
So
there's
downward
facing
Lighting
on
the
site.
C
Now
that
we've
sort
of
oriented
the
building
refined
it
reduce
the
building
height
to
a
zoning
compliant
Building
height
and,
ultimately,
you
know
we're
I
think
those
are
our
general
updates.
I
can
have
Jacqueline
at
least
show
the
those
changes
so
that
we
can
put
those
because,
as
you
know,
we
had
sort
of
a
discussion
at
the
last
meeting
about
how
we
were
contemplating
where
that
entrance
could
take
place
and
we
finalized
that
design.
So
I'll,
let
Jaclyn
put
that
on
there
before
making
our
other
asks
for
this
evening.
AC
Good
evening,
I'm
just
going
to
walk
you
through
quickly
in
regards
to
what
Taylor
mentioned.
This
is
a
diagram.
It
was
submitted
that
we
are
building
height
compliant,
so
we
are
located
under
the
35
foot
threshold.
The
points
as
worked
out
with
Bruce
is
are
all
demonstrated
along
that
bottom
plan,
the
location
of
all
of
the
points
along
the
front
facade
and
that
determined
our
height
to
be
under
the
35
feet.
We
did
submit
this
rendering
again
the
Architectural
Components
themselves
have
not
changed
from
our
last
sub.
AC
They
have
changed
not
on
this
rendering
for
when
we
plan
to
meet
with
the
subcommittee
next
we're
hoping
to
get
on
their
next
meeting.
What
you
do
to
see
here
is
the
center
location
of
the
entrance,
along
with
the
ramp
itself,
which
is
located
tucked
in
here
into
the
Landscaping.
Really.
The
purpose
of
these
renderings
is
to
demonstrate
these
are
coordinated
with
the
landscape
plans
that
were
submitted
to
your
board
and
that's
reflected
in
these
renderings.
Besides
that
architecturally,
we
look
forward
to
meeting
with
the
subcommittee.
T
Good
evening,
Michael
morgante
project,
engineer,
I,
think
a
lot
of
what
I'm
about
to
say
has
already
been
discussed,
but
I
will
go
over
some
of
the
changes
that
we
made
to
the
site
plan.
Essentially,
we
had
a
discussion
with
the
building
inspector
regarding
how
to
establish
the
grades
in
the
front
of
the
building
to
calculate
our
building
height
and,
as
was
previously
noted,
we
now
fall
before
the
below
the
35
foot
threshold.
T
We
were
able
to
lower
the
elevation
of
the
building
itself
in
a
little
bit
of
the
elevation
within
the
site.
It
appears
all
of
our
drainage
design
will
adequately
work
even
with
the
reduction
in
the
elevations
within
the
parking
of
the
rear
of
the
building.
We
have
provided
utility
plans
at
this
point
that
are
fairly
detailed
in
terms
of
again
the
drainage
system
itself,
catch
basins
and
piping.
That
would
lead
out
to
connection
to
existing
utilities.
Out
on
Fishkill
Avenue,
we've
prepared
a
a
pretty
detailed
lighting
plan.
T
We
have
a
landscaping
plan,
construction
details
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
there's
a
pretty
solid
set
of
plans
here
for
the
board's
consideration
moving
forward
in
terms
of
review,
and
we
did
receive
the
comments
from
the
planning
board
Consultants,
which
we'd
be
glad
to
review
with
the
board
tonight
in
case.
There's
anything
specific
you'd
like
to
discuss.
B
AC
X
Good
the
main
comments,
I
have
the
aisles
for
the
parking
seem
overly
wide
in
some
sections,
where
they
don't
have
to
be
based
on
your
turning
diagrams,
especially
around
the
terrorists,
retaining
wall
and
over
by
the
central
parking
spaces.
It
seems
to
be
we'd
like
to
get
as
much
Landscaping
as
little
asphalt
as
possible
on
this
site,
and
it
seems
to
me
you
can
accomplish
it
based
on
now
that
you
have
the
Turning
milligrams.
T
So
I
can
address
that
we
could,
but
we
also
do
need
some
additional
snow
storage
on
the
site
and
it
was.
We
were
contemplating
utilizing
those
extra
areas
now
for
for
snow
storage.
Instead,
we
do
I
believe
meat,
the
minimum
requirement
at
this
point
for
Landscaping
on
the
site,
and
it
would
seem
that
snow
storage
might
be
a
more
important
factor
to
determine
in
those
areas.
B
X
T
I
would
also
note
that
if
you
look
at
the
Turning
diagrams
for
the
fire
truck
around
the
Central
Parking
in
the
rear
of
the
site,
I
don't
have
a
tremendous
amount
of
additional
room.
I
could
pull
two
feet
back
out
of
that,
but
that
makes
a
much
more
tight
turning
radius
for
the
fire
truck.
So
I
don't
disagree
that
there's
area
to
pull
back
but
I'm
not
sure
that
we're
talking
about
more
than
one
or
two
feet.
That
could
be
more
beneficial
to
have
a
little
extra
clearance
to
make
the
turn
I'm.
X
X
Normally
we
get
by
with
24
or
26
feet
and
you're,
showing
you
know
the
crosswalk.
There
is
45
feet
long.
The
throat
is
over
30
feet
long
and
your
turning
diagrams
don't
show
that
you
need
all
that
space
to
turn
in
and
turn
out.
It
seems
to
me
you
could
narrow
that
driveway
and
make
The
Pedestrian
experience
more
safer
by
not
only
narrowing
it,
but
also
providing
the
concrete
sidewalk
across
the
driveway,
so
that
the
pedestrians
are
clearly
the
priority
when
people
come
up
to
that
space
agree.
D
J
J
T
T
Have
the
proper
soils
for
infiltration
so
I'll
put
the
soil
testing
information
on
the
plans
for
the
next
submittal.
We
should
have
the
drainage
report
completed
for
the
next
submittal.
I
will
note
that
that
design
that
you
see
there
has
at
least
a
hydrocad
model
associated
with
it.
So
I
know
the
sizing
of
it
works
appropriately.
The
infiltration
that
has
been
placed
in
there
for
conductivity
for
the
hydrocad
model,
so
I
believe.
What's
there
what's
shown
there
is,
is
appropriate
and
we
will
prepare
the
report
to
support
all
that.
T
N
T
You
look
at
the
bulk
table,
I
think
somewhere
on
the
right
side
towards
the
bottom.
Let
me
bring
it
up
right
now.
I'd
have
to
zoom
in
I.
Think
it's
elicit
at
20.6
feet.
Take
a
look
on
the
proposed
section
down
should
actually
be
labeled.
Retaining
wall
and
you'll
see
that
it's
at
20.6
feet
where
the
minimum
requirement
or
I
should
say
maximum
requirement
six
feet.
J
T
That
was
something
we
had
thought
about.
I
think
I
might
actually
mentioned
it.
One
of
the
first
couple
meetings
we
had
I
wasn't
clear
on
that.
So
I
would
agree
with
that
interpretation,
but
I
would
imagine
we'd
have
to
talk
to
the
building
inspector
and
see
what
his
intentions
are
with
the
relation
to
that.
X
T
T
S
C
F
X
B
B
D
K
K
Z
Think
that,
since
there's
design
alternatives
to
requiring
the
variants
I,
my
assumption
is
that
sort
of
a
self-created
problem
that
isn't
necessarily
something
we
need
to
I
know
don't
worry
about.
We
have
the
zoning
board
resolve
right.
It's
a
choice
to
make
a
design
choice,
to
have
a
non-compliant
wall.
Surprise.
So.
F
C
H
N
I
don't
have
personally
I,
don't
have
an
issue
with
referring
it
to
the
zoning
board
if
necessary.
I
was
just
up
here.
Looking
for
an
answer
on
this:
retaining
wall
height
question
and
not
finding
it
quickly
in
terms
of
making
a
recommendation,
I
would
kind
of
like
to
know
what
the
code
already
says
to
be
frank,
but
we
can
send
it
over
there
and
say
it's
your
problem
now.
H
X
F
X
G
K
B
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Let
me
take
a
minute
for
the
for
the
graphics
to
come
up,
but
so
basically
yeah.
This
is
the
property
at
511
Fishkill
Avenue.
We
submitted
revised
plans
based
on
the
comments
we
got
last
month,
so
that
there's
been
a
change
from
the
applicant.
They
are
going
to
discontinue
the
industrial
Arts
food
truck
use
and
the
truck
is
actually
removed
from
the
site
already.
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So
a
number
of
the
comments
were
related
to
that,
so
so
we're
we're
going
to
resubmit
the
drawings
with
the
you
know,
updated
information
and
without
the
industrial
Arts
food
trucks.
The
application
is
only
for
the
district
social
food
container.
At
this
point,
so
I'm
going
to
be
resubmitting
drawings
based
on
that.
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I
do
awesome,
so
basically,
John's
touched
on
a
lot
of
stuff.
Rea's
eliminated
several
of
my
comments
since
he's
eliminated
the
food
truck,
but
basically
with
a
shipping
container,
we're
still
looking
for
the
location
of
the
utilities
that
are
going
to
be
servicing
this
and
the
existing
utilities
on
site
that
they're
tying
to
and.
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Allison
Phillips
I'm
an
attorney
with
the
law
from
Young
Summer
I'm
filling
in
for
Scott
Olson
this
evening.
Welcome,
thank
you,
so
I
believe
Scott
appeared
at
the
May
9th
meeting
and
at
that
time
the
board
had
discussed
whether
it
would
the
application
should
be
supplemented
with
some
additional
Visual
renderings
and
that
would
be
put
together
following
a
balloon
test.
AI
Since
that
discussion,
we
have
submitted
to
the
board
a
proposed
based
on
our
view,
shed
map
that
was
submitted
with
the
application,
a
one
mile
photograph
map
and
then
a
two
mile
radius
photograph
map
with
38
proposed
locations
where
we
could
do
photograph
of
the
balloon
test.
So
we're
here
tonight
just
to
get
feedback
from
the
board
to
see
if
it
was
agreeable
with
those
locations
also
just
to
confirm,
if
there's
any
specific
notice
requirements
that
we
need
to
do
for
the
balloon
test.
I
didn't
see
anything
in
the
the
board's
telecommunications
regulations.
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AI
AI
So
what
we'll
be
doing
is
we'll
be
putting
up
a
helium
balloon
at
the
120
foot
height
that
the
monopole
will
be
so
that
you
can
visually
see
where
the
full
height
of
the
structure
will
be,
and
then
we
would
take
photographs
from
the
38
Vantage
points
we
identified
on
the
submission
to
the
board
in
some
communities.
They
have
a
requirement
in
the
Telecommunications
regulations.
If
they
do
require
a
balloon
test
that
you
notify
the
neighbor
so
that
they
can
come.
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AI
Typically,
it
would,
we
would
look
first
to
the
local
law
and
see
if
there's
a
specific
requirement
like
you
would
have
for
public
hearing
notices
if
it's
adjoining
property
owners
of
its
properties
within
a
certain
distance
of
the
proposed
monopole.
It's
really
just
intended
to
you
know
kind
of
capture.
Anyone
who
would
have
specific
interest
in
in
seeing
what
the
height
of
the
structure.
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B
AI
The
and
the
submission
that
we
make
to
the
board
that
actually
shows
the
photograph
of
the
bloom
will
become
part
of
the
record.
It
will
supplement
the
application,
so
any
members
of
the
public
who
receive
the
public
hearing
notice.
You
know
all
of
that
material
would
be
available
with
the
remaining
application
documents
for
them
to
review
in
advance
of
the
of
the
public
hearing.
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If
I
can
suggest
you
we
can,
we
will
have
to
provide
a
notice
to
neighbors
within
the
designated
distance
for
the
public
hearing.
We
can
actually
even
add
a
specific
message
in
the
notice
to
let
the
neighbors
know
that
photos
have
been
taken
from
various
Vantage
points
based
on
a
balloon
test,
and
you
know
those
photos
are
available.
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A
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H
H
Yeah
I
want
to
also
mention
just
as
by
way
of
update
since
the
last
meeting
at
the
last
meeting,
the
board
authorized
the
retention
of
a
wireless
consultant
and
we
have
retained
a
wireless
consultant,
William
Johnson,
who
has
all
the
application
materials
and
he's
in
the
process
of
preparing
a
review
memo
that
will
be
available
for
you
for
your
next
meeting.
Great.
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H
At
this
point,
however,
so
I
also
want
to
mention.
We
talked
about
this
at
the
last
meeting,
but
it's
worth
reminding
the
board
that
wireless
applications
do
have
a
shot
clock
associate
associated
with
them,
so
a
time
frame
within
which
they
need
to
be
reviewed
and
acted
upon,
otherwise
they're
deemed
approved.
So
the
decision
is
taken
away
from
you
for
new
towers.
The
time
period
is
150
days
from
the
time
the
application
was
submitted.
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AJ
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X
V
X
A
corner
lot
I
suggested
that
the
building
might
want
to
try
to
wrap
the
corner
so
that,
if
running
on
both
streets
and
reduce
the
scale
of
the
Building
compared
to
the
buildings
across
the
street,
they
should
pick
up
architectural
and
setback
consistencies
with
the
buildings
around
them
yep,
so
that
the
architecture
is
broken
up.
It
doesn't
look
as
massive
as
four
times
the
size
of
any
other
building
on
the
on
the
Block,
and
it
should
have
a
short
setback
consistent
with
the
buildings
on
the
same
side
of
the
street
within
250
feet.
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A
X
Cedar,
so
that
you
could
put
diagonal
parking
between
the
main
building
on
the
corner
and
the
parking
nearby
would
be
concealed
behind
the
building
line
and
Landscaping,
presumably
and
I
even
suggested
that
that
storage
building
is
pretty
big.
You
can
actually
have
two
cars
on
their
permanent
parking
spaces
in
that
building
and
still
have
room
for
storage
behind
that,
so
that
you
could
conceal
two
of
the
parking
spaces,
not
on
Surface
Lots
but
in
the
building.
So
there's
a
bunch
of
suggestions
there.
A
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X
B
X
A
B
So
there's
the
environmental
component
to
this,
which
he's
making
the
recommendation
that
we
determine
whether
it
needs
one.
We
don't
have
enough
information
at
this
point
in
my
estimation,
to
make
that
determination.
So
you
have
some
work
to
do
there
and
that
has,
in
my
view,
a
lot
to
do
with
the
the
site
planning
and
responding
to
a
lot
of
those
elements
just
in
terms
of
placement
setback,
traffic,
parking,
Ingress,
egress,
all
of
that
stuff
so
and
then
Architectural
Review,
obviously
John's
recommending
that
we
refer
this
to
the
Architectural
Review
way
too
early.
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P
K
The
I
would
also
like
to
suggest
that
we
encourage
a
sidewalk
on
North
Cedar,
even
though
I
know
once
like
right
at
Main
Street
along
that
building.
There
isn't
one
but
I
feel
like
no
sidewalks
are
such
an
issue
in
the
town
and
that
the
property
just
south
of
this
one
does
have
a
walkway.
Even
though
it's
asphalt,
it
is
a
pedestrian
space
and
I
think
we
want
to
encourage.
X
Reason
I
didn't
I
only
asked
for
church
was
not
only
do
you
have
the
problem
on
the
Main
Street
side,
but
there's
no
sidewalk
on
the
east
side
of
Cedar
further
north,
so
there's
no
sidewalks
other
than
a.
You
know
the
two
buildings
immediately
to
the
South
I
thought
it
was
important.
Church
Street
has
sidewalks
it's
just
intermittent
and
this
would
help
fill
in
a
gap
churches
they.
X
What
they've
done
is
they
actually
put
like
a
six
or
eight
foot
sidewalk
on
the
west
side
of
cedar,
because
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
traffic
from
the
schools
across
City
so
that
they
have
a
really
wide
sidewalk
on
the
west
side
of
the
street
and
no
sidewalk
on
the
east
side
of
the
street
throughout
Cedar
Street,
so
I
understand
you're
rational.
We
should
have
seen
sidewalks
everywhere,
but
I
thought
first
system.
J
Russo
so,
along
with
what
John
had
mentioned,
there's
a
lot
of
missing
detailed
information,
as
required
under
section
223,
25
B
of
the
city
code.
As
far
as
existing
Landscaping.
What
else
is
on
the
site?
Are
there
any
public
trees,
wooded
areas
existing
utilities?
The
plan
should
include
proposed
utilities
to
service
the
building,
you'll
need
erosion,
sediment
control
plans,
Landscaping
lighting
and
then
pertinent.
Construction
details
is
related
to
all
the
proposed
improvements
on
the
site.
Sidewalks
curbs
utilities.
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X
Not
like
I
said,
there's
only
been
two
applications
that
I
can
think
of
other
than
single
family
subdivisions,
and
both
of
them
are
before
the
board
right
now,
so
we'd
have
to
see
how
they
go
until
you
know,
generally
speaking,
I'm,
you
know
I
think
I
was
positively
promoted
the
T
District
as
providing
more
flexibility
in
this
neighborhood
and
I'm
surprised.
There
hasn't
been
more
office,
conversions
and
other
sorts
of
things
that
are
allowed
in
the
T
District.
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Z
X
The
in
the
223-25,
the
site
plan
development
section
in
which
he
talks
about
compatibility
with
neighborhood
and
so
I
think
everything
we're
asking
for
is
based
on
the
idea
that
whatever
goes
here
should
be
compatible
with
the
neighborhood.
But
we're
the
council
decided
that
up
to
40
units
is
appropriate
for
a
size
lot
like.
B
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B
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Y
Y
Y
Y
As
a
result
of
that,
we've
also
taken
a
look
at
some
other
options
for
parking
because,
as
you
may
recall,
we
are
parking
a
lot
of
our
of
our
spaces
on
152
Main
Street,
and
there
was
some
questions
that
the
planning
board
had
at
the
time
with
regard
to
walkability,
and
things
like
that.
So
now,
all
of
the
parking
is
contiguous
to
the
site.
There's
no
other
major
changes
to
the
site.
It's
just
more
of
a
this
being
an
updated
plan
of
attack
for
the
applicants.
B
Y
Y
Okay,
so
there's
the
layout,
so
the
parking
is
now
shown
a
mixture
of
on-site
and
10
and
12
cross
streets.
So
it's
all
on
the
east
side
of
cross
street.
We
have
a
lot
more
walkability
and
close
close
parking
to
the
building
and
the
use
is
on
there.
So
with
that
being
said,
we
do
have
some
comments
from
your
professionals
and
I
would
I
would
definitely
like
to
talk
to
some
of
those,
but
there's
a
almost
like
a
critical
path
that
we
have
to
take
here,
because
there's
a
number
of
things
going
on.
Y
So
one
of
the
first
issues
that
we
had
was
that
there's
there's
an
opportunity
for
the
land
banking
and
what
we've
done
is:
we've
shown
a
plan
that
we
feel
is
compliant
with
all
the
required
parking
spaces
per
city
code.
Now
this
plan
on
the
inset
is
a
reduced
parking
plan
where
we're
showing
24
out
of
the
34
that
are
proposed
by
current
city
code
requirements.
Y
One
of
those
questions
that
Came
Upon
Mr
Clark's
letter
was
whether
or
not
the
land,
banking
and
I
think
this
was
going
to
be
thrown
towards
Bruce.
I,
don't
want
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
but
that
a
decision
had
to
be
made
of
whether
or
not
we
could
do
the
land
banking
here
at
all.
So
that's
number
one
I.
X
Y
X
X
N
I
mean
it
would
seem
pretty
clear
that
that
bomb
zoning
restriction
is
directed
at
where
the
building
that
the
parking
and
servicing
is
located,
because
otherwise
it
would
kind
of
be
nonsensical.
Like
I
couldn't
land
made
parking
that
was
along
Main
Street
for
a
property
that
was
adjacent
in
t
or
an
R1
Zone.
N
Y
And
part
of
it
is,
is
that
nine
of
our
required
parking
spaces
are
from
the
three
buildings
already
in
the
T
as
well
right.
So
maybe
the
land
banking
is
more
related
to
the
fact
that
there's
nine
required
there
and
we
can
maybe
grab
some
land
banking
based
on
those
three
buildings
specifically
and
not.
Maybe
the
CMS
building.
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N
Y
Y
A
AG
X
N
N
X
X
It's
not
a
large
lot.
If
you
put
a
parking
lot
on
this
lot,
you
won't
you
don't
have
room
for
a
building
and
that's
why
the
waiver
was
built
into
the
zms
district,
because
almost
all
the
Lots
along
Main
Street
can
handle
the
parking
that's
required
of
them.
So
that's
you
have
on-street
parking
and
you
have
public
parking
lots
and
usually
the
precedent
this
board
is
usually
had
is
that
they
require
the
residential
parking,
but
not
the
commercial
parking.
J
F
Y
K
Y
You
know
as
they've
gone
into
this
Venture
of
providing
the
affordable,
the
dollars
and
cents
aren't
exactly
perfectly
lining
up
so
they've
been
trying
to
do.
You
know
a
limitation
and
trying
to
kind
of
close
up
some
of
the
the
limits
of
where
we're
doing
our
work
here
so
that
we
can
be
a
little
more
economical
and
make
this
work
so.
A
Y
Could
I
mean
it
really
depends
on
what
level
of
rates
that
the
board
feels
is
appropriate?
You
know
so
you
you
can
modify
those
requirements
for
your
residential
for
your
retail
and
for
your
office
space
and-
and
you
know,
make
it
a
different
rate
so
that
we
can
come
up
with
a
number
that
we're
all
comfortable
with
the
the
applicants
are
very
comfortable
with
24..
How.
K
Y
Y
Z
I,
like
oak
trees
and
I
I,
think
that
we
need
to
provide
parking,
but
I
don't
think
we
need
to
provide
all
the
parking.
That's
originally
required.
I
think
the
waiver
is
probably
a
good
scheme
and
the
plan
B
with
the
smaller
amount
of
parking
seems
that
seems
adequate.
I
have
I.
You
know,
I
can't
read
exactly
what's
pounding
units
I'd
have
to
look
at
the
details
to
be
sure,
but
it
seems
fine
to
me.
B
Y
I
think
this
was
more
of
an
exhibit
that
we
wanted
to
show
on
here
just
to
show
that
a
24
parking
count
would
work
for
the
purposes,
and
then
you
can
kind
of
understand
what
we
can
preserve.
What
would
still
be
green
space?
Everything
outside
of
the
dark,
gray
hatch
would
be
a
green
space
other
than
the
buildings
of,
of
course,
is.
K
Y
Yeah
and
that's
that's
part
of
the
reason
why
we
went
with
some
reduced
aisle
widths
with
the
full
build
out
scenario
as
well,
because
we
were
trying
to
give
some
green
space
behind
those
as
well.
So,
certainly,
certainly
if
you
look
at
our
full
build
outs
scenario,
you
know
we
did,
we
did
have
some
trees
that
we
were
planting
in
throughout.
These
were
all
proposed
right
here
and
we
would
do
the
same
with
whoops.
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AB
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Y
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B
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Y
X
N
N
X
Y
And,
like
I
said,
you
know,
there's
seven
criteria
and
the
board
technically
only
needs
one
or
more
of
those
to
consider,
and
one
of
those
was
simple
enough
is
just
saying
it's
a
historic
building,
so
the
172
part
of
this
is
historic,
so
you
know
so
it
seems
like
there's
some
feel
from
the
board
that
you
would
accept.
There's.
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X
X
Client,
a
professional
parking
study,
the
proposed
use
and
surrounding
area
demonstrates
that
a
different
amount
of
parking
would
be
appropriate
for
the
use
in
this
particular
location
than
it
exists.
Your
opposed
offside
parking
is
sufficient,
that's
one
and
then
the
adequate
or
suspicion
public
parking
of
hell
with
an
800
feet
of
the
site
within
CMS
or
t
District.
R
Y
You
know
one
other
thing
I
would
add.
Is
that
you
know
in
the
spirit
of
Greening
thing
is
up.
We
would
be
removing
two
curb
cuts
that
serve
those
houses
now
and
we
restore
the
the
sidewalk
through
there
and
green
those
at
previous
areas
up
so
first
in
terms
of
streetscape
for
cross
street,
it
should
be
a
nicer
feel.
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B
B
Y
A
B
H
Y
Okay
and
in
terms
of
if
we
can
come
in
with
something
that
and
we'll
we'll
add
the
lighting,
we
just
didn't
do
the
lighting
on
this.
Just
because
there's
some
questions
and
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
this
was
even
possible.
But
if
I
come
in
with
lighting
and
everything
else,
is
it
possible
that
we
could
consider
a
conditional,
reapproval
or
I?
Don't
know
what
you
want
to
call
it?
A
conditional,
amended
yeah.
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J
Y
B
AK
Adam
Feinberg
Insight
engineering
surveying
landscape
architecture,
PC,
the
applicant
is
Beacon
views
LLC
and,
as
was
mentioned,
seeking
an
extension
to
Beacon
views
project
that
was
approved
in
July
of
last
year.
Progress
has
been
made
on
the
conditions
of
approval
coverage
under
the
Nationwide
Army
Corps
permit
was
granted
correspondence
related
to
that
permit
coverage
was
provided
with
our
extension
requests.
You
should
have
that
We
are
continuing
to
work
with
the
health
department
for
their
approval
of
the
connections
to
the
water
and
sewer
Mains.
AK
We've
been
working
with
the
city
to
secure
the
required
well-served
letters
and
we're
expecting
those
any
day,
and
the
applicant
also
continues
to
work
toward
a
resolution
with
the
dispute
with
the
neighboring
property
owner
from
what
I
understand
those
diet.
That
dialogue
is
accelerating
and
they're
getting
closer
to
a
settlement.
So
all
that
being
said,
the
applicant
would
like
to
request
an
extension
of
the
approval
if
the
board
deems
it
appropriate.
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B
AK
B
AJ
B
M
AJ
Honestly,
just
fascinated
by
this
yeah,
a
very
broad
range
I'm.
Actually,
the
speech
therapist
my
friend
is
the
occupational
therapist,
but
it
involves
any
functional
use
of
their
motor
movement.
Their
sensory
experience
in
the
world,
like
handwriting
building
core
muscle,
strength,
providing
sensory
input
to
help
them
navigate
their
day
and
access
their
day
to
the
best
of
their
ability.
So.
AJ
M
M
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B
B
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AJ
B
A
AJ
M
AJ
AJ
AJ
H
S
B
A
B
B
B
AA
B
Justification
so
so
you
know,
so
what
we're
going
to
do
is
we're
gonna.
We're
gonna
have
a
motion
on
this,
so
but
you
don't
necessarily
need
to
share
my
vociferous
objection.
It
is
way
too
dissimilar.
That's
the
context,
so
I'll
I'll
make
a
motion
to
disapprove
this
particular
certificate
of
appropriateness
as
being
for
a
lot
one
for
being
too
dissimilar.
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F
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M
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M
M
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AL
B
A
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K
Z
B
B
The
home,
what
we,
what
we
respond
best
to,
because
we
can
actually
figure
it
out
and
picture
it
is
an
elevation
with
the
colors
indicated
and
the
samples
organized
so
that
we
can
very
easily
say
this:
is
the
house
with
the
roof,
the
main
shingles,
the
sub
shingles,
the
trim
and
the
windows
between
Gary?
Please
don't
be
a
smart
ass.
What
I'm
saying
is
we
have
requirements
for
the
submission
you're,
making
it
difficult?
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S
Z
B
B
AB
B
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N
N
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K
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F
B
Z
Z
M
K
M
B
And
yeah
and
then
just
keep
in
mind
for
the
final
command
is
going
to
need
the
specifics
on
what
the
colors
of
each
of
your
materials
are
for.
Honestly,
the
brand
or
anything
like
that,
but
so
get
as
specific
on
those
materials
as
you
can
so
that
when
they
go
into
the
ground,
got
that.
So,
if
you
said
it's
whatever
blue
and.
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AL
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M
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Everybody
comes
in
you
shouldn't
discuss.
If
you
want
color
renderings
of
everything
that's
being
proposed,
then
I
will
make
sure
that
they
provide
with
you
know
some
type
of
a
sample
of
material.
If
it's
something
out
of
the
ordinary,
let's
say
other
than
a
vinyl
or
yeah.
This
is
going
to
be
important.