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A
D
E
A
No
General
comments
from
the
public.
All
right.
Let's
go
to
our
first
action
item
in
the
evening.
It's
a
proposed
text,
amendment
to
article
seven
division,
7.4,
74.50,
public
hearing,
scheduling
and
notice.
In
section
7470
public
hearing
procedures
to
clarify
the
public
comment
is
not
taken
for
a
administrative
appeals
to
the
Planning
Commission
or
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals.
F
Mr
chairman
members
of
the
Planning
Commission,
what
we
have
for
consideration
tonight
is
a
proposed
tax
amendment
to
article
7,
and
what
this
would
do
is
that
would,
as
affect
public
hearings
for
two
very
specific
occurrences.
One
would
be
an
appeal
to
the
Planning
Commission
and
one
would
be
appealed
to
the
zoning
board
of
appeals,
both
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
zboa
or
zoning
board
of
appeals.
F
F
In
the
where
there
is
some
confusion
is
that
in
the
community
development
code,
when
we
speak
about
the
process
of
public
hearing
and
even
when
an
appeal
occurs,
it's
still
a
public
hearing.
The
public
hearing
section
talks
about
receiving
public
comments
and
from
discussion
with
the
County
attorneys
and
looking
at
the
way.
This
has
historically
been
done.
F
You
know
once
a
decision
is
made,
because
you
know
the
the
person
who
is
filing
the
appeal
would
be
saying:
well,
you're,
basing
your
decision
on
new
evidence
that
was
brought
forward
at
that
meeting
and
not
what
staff
used
when
it
made
the
decision.
So
the
the
or
the
proposed
amendments
or
bringing
forward
are
to
clarify
this.
So
it's
still
a
public
hearing.
The
public
is
is
in
attendance,
but
for
these
Appeals
you
know
you're,
not
hearing
public
comment.
B
So
what
I'm
hearing
you
saying
and
I
understand
it
is
that
if
there's
this
quasi-judicial
format,
it's
like
everything
is
in
a
box
like
everything
that
we
have
decided,
that
staff
has
decided
our
interactions
are
kind
of
in
a
box
and
we're
in
the
appeal
process,
and
you
can't
kind
of
go
out
of
that
box
and
and
justification
for
not
having
the
opportunity
for
public
comment
is
that
it
would
raise
issues
that
are
not
addressed
in
the
Box
I,
guess,
I
and
I.
Think
many
of
my
colleagues
here
really
care
about
the
public
comment
piece.
B
Is
there
any
other
way
to
have
public
comment,
be
accepted,
I
mean
I,
know
it's
our
it.
It
would
affect
us
correct
I
mean
if
somebody
is
standing
up
there.
It
would
probably
affect
our
decision
making
right,
but
is
there
any
other
venue?
Is
there
something?
Is
there
another
hearing?
That's
are
there?
Could
people
do
it
electronically?
F
C
F
The
development,
so
you
know
the
number
of
parking
spaces,
the
setback
all
of
that
is
based
on
numbers
that
are
in
the
code.
Public
is
welcome.
You
know
we.
If
a
public
wants
to
attend
the
meeting
of
the
staff
review
team
they
can,
but
their
comments
are
not
going
to
have
any
difference
about
whether
a
development
meets
a
setback
or
not,
and
you
know
so
I.
As
a
you
know,
the
playing
director
I
believe
that
I
don't
want
to
invite
public
comment
when
that
public
comment
is
really
not
supposed
to.
F
B
B
B
F
That
well
I
mean
this
does
not
affect
the
rezoning;
it
doesn't
affect
text
Amendment
and
the
code
comprehensive
plan,
every
other
action,
the
Planning
Commission
takes
and
I.
You
know,
since
I've
been
here
I've
seen
maybe
three
of
three
or
four
appeals.
So
we
do
this,
maybe
once
every
two
or
three
years,
but.
A
F
F
A
B
F
F
I
mean
they
see,
appeals
a
lot
more
often
and
they're.
They
do
not
solicit
public
comment.
I
think
that
the
reason
this
came
up
is
that
there
was
a
question
by
the
attorney
because
our
ordinance
was
was
paid
on
the
subject.
Yes,
but
it's
a
general
understanding.
You
know
that
I
would
say
it's
like
a
courtroom.
You
know
if
somebody
is
in
a
trial,
they
don't
want
necessarily
people
from
the
audience
giving
their
opinion
on.
F
B
F
G
C
A
A
This
is
so
many
map
Amendment
rezoning
request
for
71.54
Acres,
located
at
1691
okatee
highway
from
T2
rural
to
T4,
Neighborhood,
Center,
T4
and
c,
and
T3
neighborhood
tn3
using
a
village
place
type
overlay,
article
3
division,
4,
section
80,
article
7
division,
3,
section
50.,
it's
a
lot
of
Divisions
yeah;
okay,
we're
ready
to
go.
Okay,.
F
Well,
we'll
find
an
overview
of
the
comprehensive
plan
and
the
tool
that
is
being
proposed
by
the
applicant
today,
the
Village
Place
type
just
to
provide
some
context
and
then
what
I've
then
I
would
like
Mark
to
talk
about
the
specifics
of
what
is
being
proposed.
The
Planning
Commission
I
think
you're
used
to
hearing
zoning
map
amendments.
You
know
where
the
question
is
whether
or
not
to
Zone
a
property.
You
know
from
T2
rural
to
C5,
Regional,
Center,
mixed
use
and
the
quest
you
know,
and
the
question
is
brought
to
the
Planning
Commission.
F
F
F
Right
now,
on
the
170
Corridor,
we
already
have
a
pattern
of
development
is
if,
if
you
go
from
mcgarvey's
corner
and
go
north,
there's
a
little
bit
of
commercial
at
okatee
Center,
and
then
you
have
land,
that's
under
conservation
easement.
You
know
Barrel
landing
and
I,
think
that's
the
Palmer
property.
Then
you
have
River
bends.
Then
you
have
some
more
land,
that's
under
conservation,
easement,
and
then
you
have
what
originally
was
three
plant
needed
developments
that
were
approved
back
in
2007
2008,
which
is
has
turned
into
Osprey
or
Mayland.
F
Well,
there
are
different
types
of
places,
see:
there's
Village,
there's
hamlets
and
there's
rural
Crossroads.
The
idea
is
closer
to
municipality
or
development
you're
going
to
have
a
larger
scale
of
Community
Village
type.
As
you
go
ahead
and
get
into
the
rural
areas,
then
that's
where
you
would
have
hamlets
or
rural
Crossroads,
still
a
small
walkable
nodes,
but
much
smaller
in
scale.
So
the
ordinance
kind
of
have
prescribes
the
character
of
what
these
areas
would
look
like
the
types
of
districts.
F
But
it
also
requires
that
the
applicant
not
only
show
how
the
areas
can
be
rezoned
but
show
how
the
roads
will
be
laid
out
where
the
open
space
is
going
to
be.
You
know
where
the
center
of
the
community
is
going
to
be.
All
of
these
things
are
required
to
be
provided
by
the
developer,
and
so
what
you
have
is
a
tool
that
I
would
say
that
the
advantages
of
this
hole
is
that
the
type
of
development
that
would
occur
is
much
more
prescribed.
F
I
know
men,
often
times
when
we're
looking
at
a
rezoning
and
somebody's
saying:
okay,
I'm
going
to
resell
my
property
to
C4,
neighbor
or
Community
Center.
Really,
the
only
assurance
we
have
is
anything
that's
permitted
in
that
District.
You
know
that's
very
hard.
Somebody
the
developer
may
have
a
vision
for
that
property,
but
that
vision
is
not
locked
in
other
than
what
the
zoning
allows.
F
You
know
over
the
site
plan
that's
being
proposed,
so
there
are
a
lot
of
advantages
to
this
approach,
and
so
I
guess
I
wanted
to
just
start
by
introducing
this
concept.
This
is
something
that
the
ordinance
always
anticipated
that
as
Beaufort
County
grows,
we
would
like
to
see
it
grow
in
this
fashion,
rather
than
just
simply
sprawling
out,
but
also
the
the
you
know
that
this
is
a
tool
that
is
recommended
in
the
comprehensive
plan
as
well.
F
So
all
of
these
things,
we're
hoping
to
see
accomplish
through
this
development
and
I
think
is,
as
Mark
Davis
goes
through
these
specifics.
You
know
there
may
might
be
a
few
more
questions,
still
hanging
out
there,
whether
it's
accomplishing
and
so
he'll
kind
of
go
over
that
and
then
kind
of
what
direction
we
would
like
to
see
this
go.
If
this
does
move
forward,
so
yeah.
A
I
Got
one
yeah
chairman
I've
just
got
a
couple
because,
as
I
was
looking
at
this
and
looking
at
these
different
types,
you've
got
you
know
the
rural
type,
the
Hamlet
type
and
the
village
type,
and
then
there's
there's
acreages
in
there
that's
involved
and
then
there's
obviously
percentages
that
are
involved
as
well.
As
far
as
what
can
be
put
in
that
area.
You
know
rural
is
eight
to
Eighty
Acres
Hamlet
80
to
160
Village
110
to
500.
I
F
A
B
Rub
it
under
age
staff
recommendation
staff
is
working
internally
to
determine
whether
a
development
agreement
would
be
an
appropriate
tool
to
implement
on-site
and
off,
say
improvements
related
to
The,
Proposal,
I,
I
seriously
and
I
voiced
this
before
I
feel,
like
the
more
that
the
staff
is
asked
to
develop,
to
have
a
development
agreement,
the
less
the
public
is
allowed
to
comment.
I
mean
it
really
falls
on
you
or
the
County
Administrator.
This
has
come
up
a
bunch
before
so.
B
F
About
that
yeah
and
I
think
Mark
will
probably
cover
those
as
well,
but
I
mean
I,
think
so
the
classic
example.
You
know
some
of
the
questions
might
be
if,
as
part
of
this
development,
you
wanted
there
to
be
commercial
square
footage.
You
know,
and
not
all
residential
in
the
front,
that's
something
that
a
development
agreement
could
require,
but
it
could
also
say
if
50
000
square
feet
of
commercials
being
proposed.
It's
not
going
to
be
at
the
tail
end
of
the
project.
It
might
be
timed
with
rooftops
and
with
improvements.
F
The
timing
of
off-site
improvements,
the
timing
of
on-site
improvements.
Those
are
things
that
a
development
agreement
is
meant
to
regulate.
The
advantage
of
the
developer
is
that
it
locks
in
the
zoning
that's
approved
at
the
time
you
know
so
in
that
process
is
public.
You
know
it
occurs.
You
know
at
the
council,
you
know
it.
B
B
No
about
yes,
I
mean
the
context
of
development
agreements,
but
whether
or
not,
for
example,
how
much
residential
would
be
on
I
believe
this
part,
so
I
I
could
be
wrong
or
access
to
okatee
Elementary
and
whether
or
not
yes,
commercial
should
be.
You
know
on
170
or
whether
it
should
be,
and
there
were
residents
who
said
no
like
bring
it
back
or
don't
bring
it
back
into
adjacent
areas
in
the
development
I
mean
am
I.
F
Wrong
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
unknowns
here.
One
issue
that
that
came
before
the
Planning
Commission
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago
had
to
do
with
the
front
portion
of
mail
and
Bluff
where
the
developer
was
asking.
They
were
asking
to
change:
200
Square,
two
hundred
thousand
square
feet
commercial
to
a
certain
number
of
multi-family
that
in
itself
had
to
occur
through
a
legislative
process
so
that
stalled
at
Council.
So
nothing
ever
continued
with
that
correct
I.
F
Yep
but
I
think
if
anything
that
speaks
to
that
decision
was
not
made
lightly,
it
had
to
happen
in
a
public
forum
and
a
lot
of
residents
were
concerned
and
and
it's
it
stalled.
You
know
that
so
they
have
not
come
forward
since
that
time.
So
I
think
that
is
a
similar
kind
of
thing.
Where
I
would
say
that
if
somebody's
going
to
amend
this
plan,
it
would
be
the
same
type
of
thing.
It
has
to
come
back
through
the
Planning,
Commission
and
Council.
J
J
All
right
so
I
think
what
I
just
want
to
do
is
I
know
this
could
be
new
to
a
lot
of
you,
so
I
just
want
to
kind
of
talk
about
the
regulating
plan
and
the
PTO
as
a
tool
and
I
think
some
of
the
concerns
that
were
expressed
regarding
a
development
agreement
are
fair,
I
think
to
build
off
of
that.
It
is
a
tool,
that's
used
that
people
request,
but
at
any
point
in
time
people
can
request
changes
to
zonings
and
Maps.
We
just
have
to
process
them.
J
J
J
The
key
word
is,
instead
of
just
seeing
zoning
and
then
seeing
just
a
blank
color,
you
all
have
an
opportunity
if
you
all
kind
of
were
involved
to
remember
maybe
some
plain
developments,
a
master
plan
was
created
as
a
part
of
that
free
zoning
and
that's
what
you
get
here
tonight.
That's
a
part
of
this
particular
reason
you
get
to
be
a
part
of
the
actual
land
use
plan,
you're,
not
just
approving
a
blanket
or
considering
or
discussing
a
blanket
rezoning.
J
J
J
In
addition
to
that,
all
of
the
metrics
you
see
the
roads,
the
block
sizes,
the
PTO
in
the
community
development
code.
It
prescribes
these
requirements,
so
the
plans
themselves
have
been
designed
so
I'm
just
using
it.
Let's
just
say
it
was
regularly
zoned
they
had
that
zoning.
You
all
would
never
see
it.
J
So
in
in
these
things,
you're
going
to
see
three
main
plans,
I'll
just
run
through
them,
real
quick.
So
that's
the
regulating
plan,
it
kind
of
describes
the
percentages
that
you
refer
to.
The
different
zoning
and
the
percentages
go
to
the
the
next
plan
is
a
Civic
buffer,
an
open
space
plan.
That
kind
of
shows
you,
the
metrics
of
where
your
Open
Spaces
are
your
Civic
space.
J
A
lot
of
those
are
prescribed
by
the
Community
Development
code,
and
then
this
prescribes
the
actual
Road
treatments,
the
type
of
Road,
the
right-of-way
wits,
how
those
roads
are
improved
if
they
have
on
street
parking
or
if
they
don't
have
on
street
parking.
So
when
you
add
all
those
layers
together,
you've
created
a
land
plan
that
then
creates
an
opportunity
for
certain
building
types
to
occur.
So
you've
got
your
zoning.
You've
got
your
road
networks,
you've
got
your
block
sizes
and
you
have
your
open
space
spread
throughout.
J
J
You
this
is
your
first
I
think
this
is
one
of
your
first,
so
I
know
Rob
mentioned
that
I
mean
you
that
you
all
attended
one.
It
didn't
work.
So
this
is
why
we
want
to
you
know,
answer
any
questions.
We
know
it's
new
I've
worked
on
these
to
great
detail
in
other
jurisdictions,
but
I
believe
this
would
be
your
all's
first
approach
or
process
of
these
types
of
plans
that
allow
you
all
to
see
these
as
a
part
of
the
rezoning
at
a
Planning,
Commission
level.
J
Let
you
all
take
a
look
at
our
action
plan
if
y'all
are
familiar
with
that,
it
clearly
says
that
we
as
staff
or
we
as
a
county,
are
supposed
to
implement
these
and
use
this
as
a
tool
where
to
find
in
our
comprehensive
plan
and
then
in
addition
to
that
kind
of
get
some
feedback.
Look
at
it.
Look
at
the
CDC
look
at
the
place,
type
overlay
and
actually
go
into
the
ordinance
and
make
minor
tweaks
and
amendments
as
we
need
to,
and
staff
is
prepared
to
do
that.
J
But
we
need
to
do
it
with
you.
We
need
to
do
it
with
the
applicant.
We
think
this
is
a
great
opportunity
for
the
county
to
get
a
predictable
quality
development
that
everybody
knows
going
into
it.
If
you
recommend
approval
or
if
County
adopts
this,
we
all
know
what
we're
getting,
including
the
off-sites,
and
we
do
have
people
here
to
speak
about
Transportation
issues
and
all
site
issues
to
answer
any
of
those
questions
as
well,
so
you
can
see
in
our
comp
plan.
It
is
telling
us
to
take
these
actions.
J
But
I
do
go,
maybe
go
to
the
aerial
and
speak
to
a
little
bit
of
the
connectivity
or
the
aerial
about
the
zoning
yeah
perfect.
So
if
you
kind
of
look
at
that
on
this
piece
right,
there
you'll
see
to
the
north
of
it,
you've
got
the
school
and
you've
got
mail
and
Bluff
and
river
River
Oaks
and
there's
a
little
backpacks.
So
this
piece
kind
of
adjoins
that
and
all
of
it
going
back
to
what
Rob
was
saying,
is
a
question.
J
We
kind
of
see
that
as
all
as
one
kind
of
Village
Place
like
type
and
you
kind
of
got
a
school
right
in
the
middle,
there
is
programmed
commercial
in
front
of
man
Bluff.
Currently,
yes,
that
is
kind
of
being
looked
at
right
now,
but
overall
we
look
at
not.
We
don't
look
at
land
use
in
a
vacuum.
We
look
at
parcels
and
we
look
at
land
use
and
how
it
relates
to
other
things
around
it.
Previous
decisions.
J
You'll
see
a
lot
of
entrance
points,
so
a
lot
of
those
were
done
to
line
up
with
existing
roads,
one
going
out
there's
one
towards
the
back.
That
kind
of
goes
in
the
back
side
of
river
oaks.
That
Community
then
connects
into
mail
and
Bluff.
That
Community
then
connects
into
Prichard
Point
Road
and
that
County
Park.
J
L
J
It
as
one
cohesive
development-
and
it's
not
chopped
up
so
I,
just
kind
of
want
to
kind
of
speak
to
that,
but
we
are
looking
at
those
acreages
and
as
a
part
of
possibly
looking
at
making
some
tweaks
to
IT
staff
is
open
to
looking
at
some
of
the
acreages
and
making
getting
those
ranges
a
little
tighter
making
them
have
to
make
more
sense.
So
just
know
that
that's
something
that
we're
looking
at.
So
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
J
J
But
unless
you
have
certain
questions
regarding
the
higher
level
stuff,
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
start,
taking
any
questions
on
the
details
of
the
plans
or
the
process
or
where
staff
is
in
this
process.
With
these
plans,
where
we
would
like
to
see
it
Go
and
of
course
the
applicant
is
here,
I
believe
you
have
members
of
the
public
here.
You
just
tell
me
when
you
want
me
to
stop
talking.
J
M
So
170
I
think
everyone
understands
the
170
278
area
this.
This
entire
area
has
grown
substantially
over
the
course
of
the
last
10
years
and
and
really
more
substantially
in
the
last
couple
of
years.
So
we
have
been
working
through
the
mpo,
the
Metropolitan
planning
organization
in
the
region,
to
look
at
what
exactly
we
need
to
do
not
only
with
170
but
with
278,
and
there
was
a
study
that
was
done
in
2019
by
AECOM
that
recommended
some
near-term
and
some
longer
term
improvements
along
the
170
Corridor.
M
The
good
news
is
those
near-term
improvements
which
are
kind
of
spot
improvements,
nothing
directly
at
Cherry,
Point
or
along
this
Frontage,
but
along
the
corridor
itself,
we're
just
they
went
to
to
one
of
the
committee
meetings,
the
public
facilities
committee
meeting
last
week
and
was
approved
to
move
forward
to
County
Council.
Those
improvements
will
go
to
County
Council
then
next
week
for
approval
for
those
near-term
improvements,
which
include.
Basically,
that
stretch
is
from
Okatie
Center
South
to
462..
So
while
it
doesn't
directly
impact
this
development,
it
does
encompass
that
entire
area.
M
So
these
are
near-term
improvements
right
around
8
million
dollars
to
take
care
of
some
immediate
traffic
needs
along
the
170
corridor.
As
a
part
of
the
long-term
plan,
we
are
well.
The
plan
is
in
place.
There's
a
corridor
plan
in
place
that
we're
going
to
follow
that's
a
much
more
expensive
project
somewhere
in
the
120
million
dollar
range.
So
again,
quite
a
big
project.
There's
only
there's
only
certain
ways
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
move
a
project
like
that
forward.
M
It's
with
potentially
with
grant
funding
so
we'll
be
attempting
looking
at
every
potential
grant
funding
opportunity
that
there
is,
but
then
in
2022
there
was
a
proposed
Transportation
sales
tax
that
was
progressing
forward
through
the
county.
It
was
decided
in
like
the
July
time
frame
that
we
were
going
to
move
forward
with
the
green
space
sales
tax
that
will
go.
That's
in
effect,
right
now
went
into
went
into
effect
in
May
of
this
year
and
will
collect
through
2024..
M
There
is
proposals
on
bringing
a
2024
Transportation
sales
tax
to
the
ballot
in
November
in
November
2024.
So
we
are
currently
working
through
that
process
through
County
Council,
as
well
as
the
different
municipalities
on
what
exactly
does
that
plan?
Look
like
in
the
2022
proposed
sales
tax,
the
one
that
was
that
has
been
postponed
until
potentially
2024?
This
project
was
that
bigger
project
on
the
170
Corridor
was
part
of
that
overall
plan.
M
So
again
there
there
has
been
there's
been
preliminary
work
looked
at
to
address
the
traffic
concerns
on
this
Corridor,
which
directly
impact
Cherry
Point
as
well
as
well
as
River
Walk.
So
again,
we're
not
we're
not
sitting
on
our
hands,
we're
we're
working
through
those
plans
again.
That
first
plan
was
done
in
2019
we're
working
through
with
some
updates
to
that
right
now
to
specifically
address
bike
and
ped
accommodations
along
this
entire
corridor.
A
A
A
It's
all
a
little
bit
confusing
to
me
is
to
proceed
with
the
development
of
the
land
without
a
infrastructure
already
in
place
to
support
it,
and
so
it
becomes
important
for
me
to
understand
is
the
timing
of
what's
been
called.
You
know,
recommendations,
near-term
far
term,
what's
going
to
happen
and
how
is
that
going
to
blend
in
to
make
sure
that
we
not
put
a
Stranglehold
on
the
infrastructure?
That's
already
there.
M
In
the
human
right,
yes,
so
I
mean
that's
the
purpose
of
the
Tren.
The
traffic
impact
analysis
is
to
dictate
what
those
on-site,
what
the,
what
the
improvements
look
like
off-site
to
address
the
traffic
specifically
for
this
development.
As
far
as
the
overall
Road
Network,
the
developer
is
not
responsible
for
the
overall
Road
Network.
That
is
that's
going
to
be
the
responsibility
of
the
state,
Beaufort
County
Jasper
County,
to
address
those
needs
and
again
that's
what
those
bigger
that's.
M
What
that
bigger
project
looks
like
now,
we
are
we're
close
to
about
37
000
vehicles
or
so
that
per
day
on
this
particular
corridor.
We
we're
not
getting
to
the
point
of
really
necessitating
the
need
for
six
Lanes
in
each
Direction
until
we
get
closer
to
that
fifty
thousand
dollars
or
fifty
thousand
viewers
per
day
volume.
So
again,
that's
what
we're
looking
at
as
more
of
that
long-term.
The
long-term
goal
for
this
corridor.
A
M
M
F
M
M
J
And
I'm
going
to
jump
in
to
go
back
to
the
development
agreement.
That's
also
how
a
development
agreement
helps
get
those
the
Tia
identifies
them.
It
kind
of
helps,
identify
when
they're
needed
by
a
traffic
count,
but
a
development
agreement
is
the
tool
and
the
contract.
We
have
to
hold
the
land
developer
responsible
for
implementing
them,
and
if
they
don't
Implement
them,
then
we
have
the
right
as
a
county
jurisdiction
to
stop
approving
development.
M
A
M
Yeah
there
was
an
updated
memo
that
Kimberly
horn
had
provided
in
in
2023
to
address
some
of
the
some
of
the
changes
in
the
way
of
development.
We
have
some
additional
comments.
The
engineering
department
does,
as
far
as
what
we
would
like
to
see
as
far
as
that
being
updated
to
address,
basically
that
2019
Corridor
study
that
was
done
by
AECOM.
So
we've
made
those
comments
so
there
there
is
some
minor
tweaks
that
we
would
like
to
see
to
that
updated,
updated
demo.
B
Definitely
what
it
seems
to
me:
I,
read
in
the
paper
that
there
was
some
I,
don't
know
land
acquisition
area
by
the
county
to
have
an
extra
like
turning
Lanes
or
what
has
the
county
done
in
this
area?
That's
sort
of
part
one
and
part
two
is:
could
you
be
more
specific
about
the
coordination
of
Jasper
County
in
this
area?
Yes,.
M
So
the
on
that,
so
the
land
acquisition
was
actually
for
that
near-term
project
that
we're
talking
about
so
again
that
goes
to
County
Council
next
Monday
for
approval
there
as
a
part
of
that
this
overall
Corridor,
what
was
being
looked
at
is
and
basically
is
called
an
R
cut
or
a
super
Street
Corridor.
It's
where
you
don't
have
necessarily
full
turning
movements
at
every
one
of
the
intersections
you're,
typically
allowing
a
left
turn
onto
a
side
street,
but
not
allowing
the
left
turn
off
so
again
in
that
requirement.
M
What
you
basically
do
is
you,
you
force
everyone
to
make
a
U-turn
Downstream
to
be
able
to
go
in
the
opposite
direction,
so
the
land
acquisition
was
actually
down
by
okd,
Center
South.
So,
with
these
improvements,
these
near-term
improvements,
you
will
no
longer
be
able
to
drive
eastbound
on
Okatie
Center
South
and
make
a
left
turn
again
too
much
volume
too
much
traffic
too
many
crashes
in
that
area.
M
So
basically,
it
were
were
encouraging
people
to
do
what
they're
already
doing
if
you're
sitting
there
for
so
long,
and
you
start
to
feel
the
pressure
of
people
lining
up
behind
you
waiting
to
make
a
left
turn
you
you,
as
a
driver,
start
to
feel
that
pressure
and
make
decisions
that
you
normally
wouldn't
make.
So
typically,
what
you
would
do
is
make
a
right
turn
get
out
of
the
way,
find
the
nearest
find
the
nearest
intersection
to
make
a
U-turn
and
come
around
the
the
opposite
direction.
M
That's
the
safest
movement
you
can
make
in
that
situation.
So
that's
what
we're
doing
at
that
at
okatee,
Center
South!
So
that's
going
to
be
the
first
r-cut
intersection
that
we
that
we
have
along
the
170
core
work.
So
that's
what
that
land
acquisition
was
for
to
answer
the
second
part
of
your
question
and
the
coordination
with
Jasper
County.
We
are
through
the
mpo
through
Lads.
We
are
coordinating
with
the
development
both
here
on
the
Jasper
County
side,
as
well
as
with
the
city
of
Hardeeville.
So
that
is
really
the
platform.
M
Is
the
lats
committee,
however,
Beaufort
County
has
met
individually
with
both
Jasper
County
and
the
City
of
Hardeeville
on
just
the
development
that
we
see
along
the
corridor,
so
they
are
just.
Let
me
back
up
real
quick
on
those
near-term
improvements
that
we're
doing
that's.
Actually,
a
cost
share.
Project
Jasper
County
is
contributing,
as
well
as
the
city
of
Hardeeville
on
those
near-term
improvements
from
Oakley
Center
South
to
462..
J
Okay,
that
that
is
not
open
for
applications
at
this
time.
So
I
don't
know
where
on
that,
but
for
the
Green
Space
the
green
space
is
the
program
is
still
under
construction
and
has
to
be
approved
by
County,
Council
and
then
approved
by
the
state.
We
we
anticipate
that
to
be
ready
to
go
by
late
ball.
J
A
B
J
B
G
Just
a
couple
of
questions,
I
know
there
was
some
confusion
because
of
the
original
traffic
impact
analysis,
which
I
think
indicated.
At
that
time
there
was
240
000
square
feet
of
commercial
space
that
was
intended.
My
understanding
now
is
that
the
plan
is
calling
for
up
to
75
000
square
feet
of
retail
and
419
residential
units,
which
includes
a
mix
of
multi-family
and
single
families.
At
your
understanding,
that's
my
understanding.
Yes,
you
mentioned
the
near-term.
Improvements
are
funded.
G
M
That,
yes
and
I
can
run
through
those
real
quick
just
so
that
everyone
kind
of
gets
I,
don't
want
to
belabor
the
the
point,
but
it
does
have
an
impact
on
the
school
corridors
so
starting
at
462.
It's
basically
lengthening
that
left
turn
lane
that
Northbound
left
turn
lane
onto
462.
so
again
to
get
that
traffic
out
of
the
travel
way.
I.
Think
people
have
seen
that
where
that
backs
up.
So
it's
to
lengthen
that
out
at
Argent
Boulevard
we're
converting
the
left
turn
lane
coming
off
of
Arjun
on
170
to
a
dual
left.
M
So
again,
adding
capacity
being
able
to
add
more
green
time
to
Argent
is
critical.
One
of
the
other.
Let
me
jump
down.
We
already
talked
about
okidd
Center
South,
which
is
basically
disallowing
the
left
turn
off
Oakley
Center
South
and
have
having
that
U-turn
movement
through
the
the
right
the
U-turn
bulb.
Then
the
primary
impacts
are
really
at
The
Interchange.
So
what
what
we're
basically
doing?
There
is
lengthening
out
that
right
turn
that
takes
the
it's.
Basically,
the
right
turn
that
uses
the
the
loop
ramp
to
go
to
Hilton
header
into
Bluffton.
M
So
that's
lengthening
that
out
and
creating
a
barrier
between
that
particular
movement
and
the
southbound
movement
of
170..
The.
What
what
that
does
is
a
couple
of
things
it
it
disallows
people
from
the
last
minute
to
be
able
to
cut
over
in
front
of
folks
that
they're
in
that
lane.
It's
lengthening
that
lane
out
to
get
them
out
of
the
the
travel
way.
M
But
what
it
also
does
is
the
only
time
that
that
movement
is
not
going
to
be
functioning
is
not
going
to
be
moving,
is
when
there's
a
Northbound
left
turn
from
Northbound
170
onto
278.,
so
whatever
that
time
is
whatever
that
green
time
is
10,
15
20
seconds
is
the
only
time
that
that
movement
to
come
on
that
Loop
ramp
to
go
around
to
Hilton
Head
is
not
going
to
be
moving.
So
with
those
improvements,
the
and
the
other
improvements
is
that
are
actually
up
on
top
of
the
bridge.
M
So
right
now,
when
you
get
up
on
top
the
bridge
on
278,
you
have
to
merge
into
traffic
on
278
we're
actually
repaving
that
and
restriping
that
so
that
is
a
that
lane
just
funnels
onto
278.
Without
that
merge
movement,
so
again,
the
idea
is
that
cue,
that's
there
today
that
you
see
you
know,
especially
in
the
PMP
ampmp,
will
will
be
remedied
with
these
improvements.
So
that's
that's
the
primary
Improvement,
then
at
okatee,
Center
North.
That
particular
intersection
is
the
one
that's
just
right
off
of
the
right
off
of
The
Interchange.
M
That
is
actually
getting
medianed
off
and
there's
not
going
to
be
any
movements
along
out
there,
except
for
the
southbound
left
into
the
Parkers.
So
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
make
Northbound
or
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
make
left
turn
movements
off
of
okatee,
Center
North
or
it's
Barrel,
Landing
Road
on
the
other
side
of
the
road
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
make
left,
turns
you're
going
to
have
to
go
farther
Downstream
and
come
back
around.
M
M
Yeah
the
timeline
it
was
bid.
We
have
an
apparent
low
bidder,
again
Went
to
went
to
public
facilities
committee
last
Monday
or
the
Monday
before
it
has
a
one-year
time
frame.
It
shouldn't
be
a
one-year
project.
It's
it's,
probably
we're
giving
them
some
flexibility
just
to
be
able
to
get
in
and
get
that
done,
because
there's
a
lot
of
asphalt,
work
to
that
project
and
again
by
the
time
we're
getting
them
into
construction
we're
almost
at
winter
time.
So
we
don't
want
to
tie
them
up
and
get
them
into
a
bad
situation.
G
Okay,
the
long-term
improvements
I
know
are
open-ended
at
this
point
because
you
don't
have
funding
in
place.
Level
of
service
is
typically
an
indicator
of
how
well
intersections
function.
I
know
the
the
traffic
impact
analysis
anticipated
a
build
out
of
this
project
by
2026
yep.
Do
you
have
any
I
didn't
see
any
level
of
service
indicators
in
the
report
that
we
saw?
G
M
This
this
particular
intersection,
isn't
the
one
that's
going
to
take
the
overall
Corridor
over
the
edge
or
any
in
particular
intersection
over
the
edge.
You
know
it's
the
culmination
of
all
the
projects
along
the
corridor.
You
know
again.
Timing
is
critical.
We're
at
that
37
000
vehicles
per
day,
Mark,
where
you
know
it
becomes
over
capacity
at
like
50,
000
Vehicles
somewhere
in
that
range,
so
I
mean
we
have
some
growth
potential
on
these
intersections.
However,
we
are
actively
working
through
the
mpo
through
the
state
to
kick
off
the
design
on
these
ultimate
long-term
improvements.
M
So
again
we're
not
just
sitting
around
saying.
Okay,
we
did
the
near-term
improvements.
Now
we
can
now
we
can
rest
easy,
because
we've
got
those
done
we're
moving
straight
into
the
design
and
figuring
out
what
the
funding
looks
like
to
be
able
to
move
the
longer
term
solution
forward,
understanding
that
we
don't
have
a
decade
to
put
it
in
place,
it's
something
that
we
need.
We
need
done
from
a
state
region
from
a
state
perspective.
We
feel
like
this
is
the
most
important
project
other
than
the
278
bridge.
M
So
that's
the
beauty
of
the
r-cut
corridor.
So
when
we
start
to
look
at
signalization
now,
you
can
move
your
signals
closer
together
than
what
would
typically
be
prescribed
because,
rather
than
having
the
signals
function,
basically,
every
movement
around
the
intersection
is
a
phase
and
every
phase
takes
a
certain
amount
of
time.
So,
if
you
have
left
turns
coming
off
of
a
movement
as
well
as
through
movements,
each
one
of
those
is
a
phase,
so
you
can
have
up
to
eight
phases.
M
Your
through
movements,
along
with
left,
turns
at
a
particular
intersection
when
you
start
to
look
at
something
like
an
r-cut
intersection,
you're
pulling
all
the
phases
out
of
that
besides
two.
So
basically,
the
only
thing
that
gets
green
green
time
on
a
on
a
traffic
signal
is
your
through
movement
and
your
left
turn
to
be
able
to
make
either
a
turn
onto
the
street
or
a
U-turn
movement.
M
So
when
you
do
that-
and
you
reduce-
and
this
is
getting
to
that
real
nerdy
traffic
engineering
stuff
when
you
go
to
from
eight
phases
down
to
the
two
you're
allowed
much
more
green
time-
it
doesn't
create
the
delay
that
you
typically
see
at
a
traditional
intersection.
So
when
we
look
at
this
as
being
a
super
Street
Corridor
that
allows
those
those
signals
to
be
closer
space
because
I
do
agree
with
you.
G
M
Right
now,
so
a
couple
of
different
things
that
we're
doing
there.
Yes,
we
we
will.
We
will
need
to
ask
for
some
additional
right-of-way
for
both
170,
as
well
as
on
Cherry
Point.
So
the
good
news
is,
we
are
actually
working
on
a
plan
right
now
on
what
the
ultimate
improvements
look
like
for
Cherry
Point,
because
there
are
multiple
developments
that
are
occurring
on
that
road.
Along
with
the
school.
M
We
feel
like
the
best
path
forward
is
for
the
county
to
work
on
what
that
ultimate
design
looks
like,
so
that
we
get
everything
that
we
want
and
it's
not
piecemeal
together
and
then,
as
development
comes
in,
they
pay
or
they
make
the
Improvement
on
the
portions
that
are
that
they're
impacting
on
those
particular
roads.
I'm
long
story
short
on
that
is
once
we
get
that
plan
in
place,
then
we'll
be
able
to
dictate
directly
to
the
developer.
M
How
much
right-of-way
we
need
to
be
able
to
get
those
improvements
within
the
within
the
right-of-way,
which
includes
roadway
improvements
as
well
as
pedestrian
movements.
So
170
is
part
of
the
East
Coast
Greenway.
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
want
to
make
sure
of
is
that
we're
we're
prescribing
or
or
setting
aside
right
away
or
at
least
being
able
to
set
aside
a
portion
of
the
buffer
yard
for
the
for
the
multi-use
path
to
travel
down
170,
as
well
as
make
that
pedestrian
connection
down
Cherry
Point.
M
I
Questions
I
did
I've
got
a
couple,
and
this
is
these
are
very
simple
questions.
One
is
for
you
I'm
reading
in
the
traffic
impact
analysis.
It
just
says
that
may
result
under
development
that
generates
50
trips
during
PCR
World
chart
and
will
change
level
of
service
of
the
affected,
treat.
What
exactly
is
a
trip.
M
A
trip
is
just
it's:
a
movement
in
a
vehicle,
so
every
time
a
I
mean
you're
you're,
basically
adding
up
the
number
of
vehicles
that
are
entering
and
exiting
the
site.
So
a
trip
is
basically
there's
a
trip
to
and
a
trip
from,
so
the
trip
is
basically
getting
in
an
automobile
and
driving
to
a
specific
development.
Okay,.
I
And
this
was
taken
into
consideration
when
the
development
first
came
out
and
said
that
they
want
these
three
to
four
hundred
housing
units
put
in
this
particular
developments
and
you're,
saying
just
because
of
all
the
interconnections
and
all
the
roadways
that
this
would
only
generate
50
trips
during
the
peak
hour.
Is
that
correct?
In.
L
I
Bad
periphery,
the
other
the
question
I
had
just
is
just
clarification
for
me
with
the
development
agreement
and
traffic
itself,
then
I
understand
correctly
to
say
that
at
some
point
during
the
development
during
the
entire
process,
if
we
find
that
the
traffic
is
not
keeping
up
or
the
development
is
maybe
exceeding
the
traffic
based
on
what
they're
putting
in
there
that
we
can
put
a
stop
on
development
until
the
roadways
are
improved.
Is
that
correct.
J
Partially,
that
would
have
to
be
again
a
development
agreement
as
a
contract.
Yes,
it's
a
contract
between
the
county
and
the
land
developer
right
and
as
long
as
the
is,
if,
if
a
developer
is
maintaining
their
side
of
the
contract
and
putting
in
the
improvements
that
we
as
the
county
believe
were
when
they
need
to
go
in
and
when,
because
that's
kind
of
you
can
kind
of
negotiate
that
they
have
to
do
those
and
typically
development
Agreements
are
they
have
to
come
in?
You
do
annual
reviews.
They
come
in
with
phases.
J
Nobody
would
come
in
and
do
this
in
all
one
thing:
it'd
be
like
a
phase.
Typically,
phases
are
by
units
and
developers
usually
program
these
things
by
phases
in
certain
units
a
lot
of
times,
it's
kind
of
driven
by
water
and
sewer
Road
sections
storm
water,
and
then,
with
that
the
D.A,
the
development
agreement
would
recognize.
Okay
at
the
80th
unit.
You
needed
this
at
the
150.
J
You
didn't
even
needed
this,
so
as
long
as
they
are
doing
those
things
with
the
phase
and
then
those
improvements
are
going
in
then
they
are
staying
compliant
with
the
development
agreement.
At
any
point
in
time
a
developer
does
not
do
that.
Then
the
county
has
standing
to
stop
approving
future
phases.
That
answers
my
question
thanks.
A
That's
a
dangerous
intersection
right
now,
when
you're
trying
to
speed
across
a
couple
lanes-
and
you
don't
have
any
place
to
get
to
stop
real
quick
you're
going
to
get
clobber
your
proposing
signal
as
I
signalizing.
That
I
mean
that
you,
the
recommendation,
was
consider
relocating
it,
but
you're
proposing
to
signalize
that
that
Crossway
there.
M
M
This
is
a
DOT
roadway,
so
the
way
that
the
dot
treats
these
intersections
is
it
has
to
be
at
the
point
of
meeting
the
warrant
before
they're
allowed
for
the
traffic
signal
to
go
in
so
kind
of
it
as
a
another
example
right
now
you
see
the
congestion
that's
in
or
around
the
old
field,
intersection
that
one
has
just
been
looked
at.
We've
just
recently
studied
that
it's
just
barely
making
the
threshold
for
Signal
warrants
there.
So
again
that
has
been
turned
out.
We
did.
M
The
study
turned
that
over
to
the
state
to
move
forward
on
a
traffic
signal
installation
at
that
particular
intersection.
So
again,
it's
got
to
go
through
the
process.
We
can't
just
say
because
of
this
development,
because
it's
coming
that
that
automatically
gets
a
traffic
signal.
It's
got
to
meet
one
of
those
nine
warrants
and
then
I
wanted
to
to
clarify
real
quick
yeah.
That's
what
that's
where
I
was
going
back
to
on
the
yeah
on
the
on
the
50
in
the
peak
hour.
M
C
M
Have
350
coming
in
302
coming
out?
This
is
all
based
upon
it's
trip
generation
manual,
so
basically
what
they
do.
It's
the
international
manual
that
basically
everyone
uses.
It
looks
at
study
areas
across
the
country
for
similar
type
developments
and
based
upon
that
data.
That's
where
they
compile
the
compile.
M
B
A
B
B
But
if
you
you
know
so
it's
just
too
late,
but
when
you
mention
that
I
heard
like
a
groan
from
the
audience
at
some
point,
that
there
was
like
going
to
be
six
Lanes
all
together
and
three
lanes,
so
I'm
a
little
confused
about
that
and
when
you
say
you're
lengthening
the
lane
to
get
into
say
462.,
so
I'm,
just
confused
when
you
say
you're,
lengthening
or
I
forget
the
exact
word
you
used
stretching
out
yeah
lengthening
yeah
yeah.
Could
we
use
the
Argent
Bluff
turning
left
there
you're?
B
You
know
you
have
left
turn
you're,
not
merging.
You
actually
have
a
left
there,
you
roll
into
two
lanes
and
then
a
bit
up.
You
know
it's
north
of
this
project,
of
course,
and
then,
if
you
want
to
go
on
to
462,
you
know
again
left
hand
lane
left-hand
turn.
But
as
we
all
know,
traffic
really
does
back
up
on
that.
B
Turn
lane
so
that
seems
to
me
to
be
a
pretty
hazardous
I
mean
we've
talked
about
this
before
in
the
past,
particularly
with
the
two
gentlemen
who
lived
you
know
and
in
this
area
yeah
extremely
well.
So
that's
a
short-term
Improvement,
but
is
that
enough
or
is
it
sort
of
a
Band-Aid?
Can
you
give
me
a
sense
of
what
it's
like
in
terms
of
planning,
yeah.
C
M
They
don't
spill
back
into
the
the
Fast
Travel
Lane,
so
yeah
I
mean
that
is,
that
is
more.
That
is
definitely
a
short-term
Improvement.
Ultimately,
what
we,
what
we
see
is
the
a
bigger
Improvement
there
would
be
a
dual
left
turn
lane
to
go
on
to
462,
but
again
as
of
right
now,
462
it's
in
Jasper
County,
and
it's
only
a
single
Lane
in
each
Direction.
So
again,
we'd
have
to
widen.
B
I
mean
I
I've
been
on
that
road.
Recently,
a
lot
I
mean
people
from
Beaufort
County,
of
course
go
to
Savannah
Airport.
That
way
for
sure
you
know
it's
and
many
other.
You
know,
I
mean
people
on
that
side
of
the
river
use
it
also,
but
that
seems
to
me
to
be
I'm
not
satisfied
with
the
way
that
is
going
to
be
handled
in
terms
of
safety.
C
A
You've,
probably
there's
a
lot
of
detail
on
Transportation
I'm,
a
transportation
exit,
so
I'll
tell
you
what
I'd
like
then
I
would
like
to
see
for
me
and
maybe
folks
in
the
audience
feel
the
same
way.
I
would
like
to
see
your
maps
of
the
that
Corridor,
particularly
the
corner.
That's
going
to
be
the
impacted
in
that
area
going
to
be
packed
up
by
Cherry
Point,
yes,
with
a
when
you're
what
Improvement
you're
making
specifically
in
the
in
the
visuals.
C
A
Yeah,
when
you
anticipate
them
being
made
and
who's
the
responsible
party
for
making
sure
that
happens,
you
know.
Is
it
the
developers
Beaufort
County?
Is
it
a
combination
of
Jasper
County?
Is
it
the
scd-o-t
I
mean
who
are
all
the
partners
in
this?
They
got
all
kind
of
come
together
and
make
this
mesh,
because
my
concern
is:
is
that
the
development
gets
underway
and
by
2026
we
got
this
thing
really
rolling
going.
We
don't
have
the
infrastructure,
you
know,
there's
no
guarantee
we're
going
to
get
the
transportation
Penny
and
all
that
yeah.
A
M
M
That's
coming
or
you
don't
want
to
leave
the
last
guy
who's
at
the
at
the
end
of
the
road
left,
holding
the
bag
on
all
the
public
improvements.
So
basically,
what
they
came
up
with
was
going
back
to
the
number
of
trips
that
each
development
generated
they
paid
into
a
fund
that
basically
helped
for
the
public
Improvement
piece.
So
again,
the
county
has
a
certain
responsibility,
because
the
school
is
already
there
right,
so
the
school's
generating
traffic.
M
This
development
is
going
to
generate
traffic,
there's
open
land
on
the
other
side
of
Cherry
Point
that
could
potentially
be
generating
traffic
so
trying
to
figure
out.
What's
that
fair
balance
between
what
the
county
is
going
to
provide,
what
developer
is
going
to
provide?
What
developer
B
is
going
to
provide
really
is
a
pretty
good
roadmap
from
what
we've
seen
with
jedberg?
And
so
that's
that's
really.
M
J
And
one
of
the
things
too
about
a
place
type
overlay
that
staff
likes
is
it
provides
that
level
of
predictability?
We
know
we
know
how
many
presidential
units
it
can
create.
So
we
have
that
number
for
the
input
for
the
engineers
and
the
traffic
to
understand
that
and
if
we
scope
out
a
specific
number
of
commercial
retail
or
office,
and
then
that's
in
there
we
can
we.
We
have
upfront
numbers
of
science
that
we
can
help
start
building
into
that
equation
and
that's
a
beneficial
tool
of
a
place.
J
M
And
so
to
to
go
back
to
your
question
as
far
as
the
development
happening
in
2026
and
making
sure
these
improvements
are
done.
So
that's
that's
the
point
of
having
this
plan
done,
which
again
should
be
done
later
this
year
as
to
whose
responsibility
who's
responsible
for
what?
What
that
would
allow
us
to
do
is
developer
a
is
coming
in.
They
have
certain
improvements
that
we're
going
to
test
them
with,
because
they're
they're
generating
that
traffic.
M
The
county
has
certain
portions
of
that,
because
we're
trying
to
address
some
of
the
school
traffic
working
with
Beaufort,
County
Schools,
then
the
other
developer
that
may
come
in
later.
We
will
probably
just
go
ahead
and
make
those
improvements,
knowing
that
we'll
at
some
point
in
the
future,
based
upon
the
trips
that
will
be
like
a
backwards
impact
fee
that
they
would
pay
into
these
improvements
that
are
already
done.
That
way,
it's
fair
for
everyone!
That's
involved
along
the
corridor.
J
A
A
L
A
O
Hey
there
so
Conrad
salvegan
with
Kim
Lee
horn.
We
did
the
Tia
for
this
site
as
far
as
the
off-site
improvements
that
we've
been
discussing,
Eric
identified
a
few
of
them,
but
what
we
have
identified
are
some
big
key
intersections
of
like
Palestine
Drive,
slash,
Cherry
Point
at
sc170.
We
would
be
adding
an
additional
southbound
left
turn
lane
to
increase
like
the
queue
capacity
and
increase.
The
number
of
left
turns
that
can
enter
Cherry
Point
to
accommodate
our
traffic
as
well
as
school
traffic.
A
B
O
So
we
did,
we
conducted
a
memo
that
we
sent
to
Eric
here
recently
about
the
difference
in
our
trip
generation
between
the
two
different
land
uses
or
excuse
me
between
the
two
different
site:
Concepts.
We
have
the
one
done
in
2022
and
we
have
the
updated
2023..
This
is
what
you're
asking
about
correctly.
A
A
A
O
I
Development
itself
in
the
way
planned
out
right
now,
if
you're,
looking
on
this
what's
in
front
of
us
now
to
my
left,
your
right
there's
a
lot
of
commercial
Frontage
right
there,
that's
on
open
to
you,
Highway
170.,
I,
know
that
in
the
zoning
and
I
know,
Mark
talked
about
this
as
well
that
we
have
flexibility
with
this
overlay.
But
I
know
that,
as
that
is
planning
to
get
rezoned
into
the
T4,
I
gotta
find
it
now
yeah
t4nc,
but
it
does
allow
for
things
that
could
even
be
a
hotel.
Is
that
correct.
C
J
That
that
use
can
be
located
on
the
property,
but
if
a
TIA,
this
is
how
I
would.
This
is
my
professional
if
a
TIA
didn't
address
that
use
as
a
part
of
the
programming
and
the
off-sites
I
would
say
they
would
have
a
difficult
time
doing
it
unless
they
came
back
and
updated
all
that
stuff
and
identified
that
traffic.
So
when
you
combine
the
regulating
plan
with
the
street
grid,
Network
system,
that
kind
of
starts
dictating
how
big
buildings
can
be
and
where
parking
goes.
C
J
Start
to
help
Define
some
of
those
future
actual
implementations
and
then,
when
you
layer
that,
with
a
traffic
study
that
has
certain
uses
identified
that
then
gets
locked
in
a
DA.
It
starts
helping
kind
of
build
that,
but
I
do
want
to
make
it
I,
don't
want
to
say
that
it's
a
magic
like
that
just
solves
all
problems.
L
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much,
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
for
a
public
comment.
I've
got
some
I,
think
10
or
so
here
in
front
of
me.
Do
we
have
any
more
okay
just
a
reminder
before
we
start
this?
When
you
come
up,
please
introduce
yourself
where
you're
located
you
have
three
minutes.
I
would
ask
you
to
be
respectful
of
the
audience
if
you
have.
If
you
hear
something
being
said
that
you
also
would
like
to
say,
please
try
to
avoid
any
redundancy.
A
We
hear
you
first
time,
and
so
you
have
that
opportunity
to
speak,
and
if
you
have
something
you
want
to
offer,
then
by
all
means
do
it
so
one
other
Factor.
We
are
a
recommending,
a
body
to
County
Council.
It
still
goes
through
a
process
from
us
after
we
make
our
recommendation
through
the
land
use
committee
and
then
on
to
County
Council
for
up
to
three
readings
and
public
meeting
for
a
final
decision
that
would
take
several
months.
I
believe
so.
A
P
Good
evening
I'm
Terry
Lasseter
I'm
a
32-year
resident
at
146,
Cherry,
Point,
Road
I,
don't
know
how
long
y'all
have
been
around
or
on
the
council.
I
was
at
the
comprehensive
plan
meetings
and
as
I
remember
it.
It
is
one
house
for
two
and
a
half
acres
which
is
on
Rural
and
that
entire
Corridor
was
to
be
Rule
and
we've
done
old
field.
P
P
Okay,
what
your
traffic
thing
is
not
showing
also
is
that
there's
300
going
in
across
the
street,
which
is
River
Oaks,
which
is
not
true
either
because
there's
300,
that's
400,
that's
300,
300,
more
behind
Maitland,
Maitland
and
rivers.
Oaks
will
jump
on
to
Cherry
Point
Road,
and
if
you
haven't
been
out
there,
please
drive
out
here
and
see
our
brand
new
road
and,
as
you
leave
the
dirt,
you
can
touch
the
fire
hydrant
if
you're
on
the
road.
That's
how
close
to
fire
hydrant
is.
This
is
the
wonderful
work.
P
That's
been
done
out
there
and,
as
you
turn
around
and
go
to
leave,
you
can
ride
in
the
potholes
in
the
right
handling
as
you
exit
Okay,
we
cannot
get
in
and
out
of
our
if
you
I
would
love
for
y'all
to
come,
see
me
at
2
45
in
the
afternoon
during
school,
because
you
won't
get
there
until
three
three
fifteen.
You
know
we
have
been
back
there
minding
our
own
business.
They
build
a
school
and
by
the
way,
all
this
is
not
new.
You
do
realize
that
correct
all
this
was
presented
in
2004.
P
every
bit
of
it,
with
the
exception
of
where
the
animal
shelter
is
everything
that
they're
showing
you
was
shown
in
2004..
Don't
believe
me,
please
look
at
the
records.
The
other
thing.
That's
very
interesting
in
all
this
is
that
these
original
developments
were
passed
because
of
the
development
thousand
dollars
per
unit.
What
are
we
getting
now
less
than
a
thousand
or
thousands
of
what
I've
understood,
so
we
have
gone
another
thing
too.
The
traffic
study
from
2008
2007
showed
we
needed
six
Lanes
already
on
170
and
we're
running
off
of
a
2019.
P
E
She
shares
the
same
apprehensions
that
we
have
for
the
Okatie
River's
well-being
and
she
shared
her
comments
with
you
virtually,
and
it
should
also
be
noted
that
her
property
was
protected
through
the
Beaufort
County
Rural
and
critical
land
preservation
program
back
in
2010
sits
directly
across
Okatie
Creek
from
this
proposed
development.
And
while
we
appreciate
the
goal
of
creating
walkable
nodes
along
Highway
170,
we
urge
you
to
carefully
consider
the
distribution
of
zoning
classifications
in
this
development.
E
E
The
current
site
plan
lacks
essential
detail
to
address
these
concerns
adequately,
and
we
implore
you
to
incorporate
these
recommendations
into
the
final
plan,
aligning
the
development
with
Community
objectives
and
preserving
the
environment
to
the
best
of
your
ability.
Please
consider
This
concerns
expressed
by
our
easement
grantor
Margaret,
who
cannot
be
here
tonight,
but
her
insights
are
invaluable
and
they
deserve
a
thorough
examination.
E
Q
Q
Q
R
Thank
you,
Felice
lamarca
and
my
husband
and
I
live
on
Hilton
Head
and
we're
hoping
to
escape
the
over
development
and
the
traffic,
and
we
bought
this
precious
piece
of
property
at
Cherry,
Point
and
I.
Call
it
unspoiled
and
we're
about
to
spoil
it.
If
we
continue
with
what
has
been
proved
river,
walk
or
Oaks
or
I,
don't
know
the
name
of
that
one
Mallon
Bluff
they're
all
going
to
connect
to
us
on
Cherry
Point.
So
while
it's
great
that
we've
connected
the
neighborhoods
to
go
behind
in
off
170.
R
R
I
think
700
homes
before
the
400,
we're
about
to
add,
is
excessive,
absolutely
excessive
for
this
pristine
area
on
the
okatee
room,
which
brings
me
to
the
next
point,
which
is
what
kind
of
Environmental
Studies
have
been
done
all
of
the
communities
up
170,
especially
the
ones
that
impact
the
okatee
river,
what's
been
done
to
make
sure
we
preserve
that
treasure
that
we
have
that's
an
important
question.
I
would
like
answered
before
any
more
development
is
done
in
Cherry
Point.
S
Good
evening
I
currently
live
in
Bluffton.
We
purchase
a
piece
of
property,
165,
Cherry,
Point
Landing,
we're
in
the
process
of
building
a
house.
First
off,
as
Commissioner
Ross
pointed
out
they're
trying
to
put
something
on
71
Acres
that
doesn't
belong
on
71
Acres.
All
of
a
sudden
we're
going
to
take
into
totality
all
the
other
subdivisions
and
consider
that
to
be
part
of
this
to
make
it
fit
like
they
said,
nothing
happens
in
a
vacuum
all
these
subdivisions.
All
these
houses
are
overcrowding.
C
S
To
you
tonight
and
said,
I
want
to
build
a
30-foot
statue
in
my
front
yard
and
I
know
it's
illegal.
It's
not
allowed,
but
you're
going
to
vote
on
that
in
two
years.
Will
you
let
me
build
it?
That's
what
they're
asking
us
to
do.
They're
wanting
us
to
approve
something
now
off
of
something
in
the
future
and
I
I.
Don't
agree
with
that.
Also
I'd
like
to
point
out
that
it's
a
minor
thing,
but
when
they
were
up
here
talking,
they
talked
about
the
partnership
between
the
applicant
and
the
commission.
S
S
I
agree
with
the
fact
that
that
20-foot
buffer
means
needs
to
be
much
larger.
I
would
suggest
a
berm
with
some
kind
of
plants
we're
building
a
house
that
could
be
ended
up
looking
into
the
back
of
an
apartment
complex.
We
don't
know,
what's
going
to
go
in
there,
it's
just
a
little
square
block
on
their
plan
at
this
point,
but
this
is
our
neighborhood
and
our
life
and
I
don't
see
the
need
to
turn
that
spigot
wide
open
and
have
400
houses
brought
in.
Have
you
tried
to
get
a
doctor's
appointment
lately?
S
Have
you
tried
to
go
see
a
dentist
you're
looking
at
six
to
nine
months
out,
and
we
just
keep
opening
up
that
spigot,
you
control
the
size
of
the
size
of
the
tidal
weight
that
comes
towards
us.
Through
this
you
can
regulate
that
I.
Don't
want
to
live
in
Garden
City
Georgia
I
want
to
live
in
Beaufort,
South
Carolina.
K
Dirt
stetter
my
wife
and
I
own
property
at
169,
Cherry,
Point,
Road
I'll
make
it
quick,
because
a
lot
of
the
other
comments
were
already
said.
Number
one
would
be
safety.
Obviously
we
spoke
about
the
traffic
issues
for
nine
months
out
of
the
year.
You
cannot
get
on
Cherry
Point
Road
two
times
during
the
day.
K
No
police
or
fire
can
access
at
that
time
either.
There's
also
backup
onto
170.
I
know.
The
short-term
traffic
analysis
talked
about
increasing
the
length
of
the
lane
at
462
because
of
the
safety
issue.
Well,
there's
a
safety
issue
at
Cherry
Point
already
and
that's
not
on
them
or
the
county.
It's
just
something
we
need
to
address
before
we
move
forward.
K
K
If
we
move
to
approve,
if
you
all
move
to
approve
this,
we
you
would
be
doing
a
disservice
to
the
current
students
and
the
future
students
I
feel
like,
and
someone
had
already
said
it
we're
putting
the
park
well
before
the
horse.
There's
a
lot
of
things
that
need
to
be
addressed
prior
to
this
being
done.
K
The
density
is
also
a
very
big
concern
of
mine,
River
Oaks
Community
is
63
acres
and
that's
330
units.
This
is
70
acres
and
that's
of
that
70
roughly
not
all
of
it
would
be
residential.
There
would
be
commercial
up
front,
but
they're
talking
419
units,
that's
a
lot
of
impervious
area.
So
where
does
all
that
water
go?
I
know
on
the
plan,
it
says:
bioswales,
rain,
Gardens
and
some
other
sources,
but
there's
a
wetland
area
in
there.
K
K
So
those
are
just
some
things.
Obviously
more
people
have
stuff
to
say,
but
I'll
leave
you
with
this
significant
portion
of
Beaufort
County
is
covered
by
rural
zoning,
natural
Preserve
zoning
and
Community
preservation,
areas
which
helps
to
protect
and
preserve
the
cherished
rural
qualities
of
from
the
2040
comprehensive
plan.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
N
N
T
Hello,
I'm,
Casey,
I,
guess
I'm
161
on
Cherry
Point,
my
husband
and
I
actually
just
bought
we're
in
the
process
of
closing
on
the
in
the
next
two
weeks
and
I.
Guess
for
me:
I'm
from
Washington
DC,
so
I'm
from
a
very
big
populated
city
area,
and
we
we
moved
here
to
escape
the
mass
amounts
of
people.
This
is
our
Paradise.
We
went
on
our
honeymoon
and
said
this:
is
it
this
area
of
Beaufort
County?
T
And
if
you
look
at
the
studies
on
oyster
beds,
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
have
done
it,
but
from
the
very
tip
of
where
we
are
on
Cherry
Point.
It's
closed
all
the
way
to
Bailey's
Landing,
there's.
No
more
oyster
beds,
there
that's
an
issue,
and
this
is
going
to
make
it
even
worse
when
I
think
about
money.
T
That's
what
the
main
point
is
here
is
these
companies
are
moving
here.
They
want
money,
they're
building
these
homes
that
are
cheaply
made
to
make
more
money
and
for
us
I,
don't
know
if
we
right
now
I'm
covered,
my
my
house
is
covered,
but
you
see
where
the
little
cabin
is.
That's
where
my
house
is
going
to
be,
and
this
20-foot
berm
is
not
enough.
T
If
there's
a
two
floor
house
I'm
going
to
have
people
looking
into
my
backyard,
do
I
know
if
there
is
a
sexual
predator
watching
my
children
run
naked
in
the
backyard
I
need
to
protect
that
and
I.
Don't
think
that
that's
something
anyone
else
is
thinking
of.
Is
the
children
it's
about
money,
not
the
children,
it's
not
about
the
oyster
beds.
It's
not
about
preserving
what
we
have.
People
are
moving
here
in
droves
to
get
a
piece
of
what
we
have
and
we
need
to
protect
it
and
it's
it's
it's
your
opportunity
to
protect
it.
T
U
U
This
is
very
much
like
I
think,
as
you
mentioned
puds
in
the
past
that
was
done
away
with.
Then
there
was
a
need
for
it,
and
so
this
new
place
type
overlay
has
kind
of
come
to
build
a
void.
It
allows
for
the
county
and
the
staff
to
create
communities
like
Habersham
to
create
things
that
I
think
that
most
of
us
want,
and
in
order
to
do
that,
you
work
through
the
development
agreement
to
come
up
with
solutions
to
lots
of
things.
U
U
You
know
that
position.
The
other
thing
I
think
which
is
important,
is
we've
heard
a
lot
tonight,
I
think
specifically
on
the
traffic.
There
needs
to
be
some
more
details,
I
think
given
to
the
commission,
and
we
can
certainly
work
with
staff
and
to
get
some
more
details,
more
specifics,
and
maybe
some
more
Graphics
to
show
exactly
where
those
items
are
dealt
with
to
an
in
a
way
work
together
to
improve.
U
You
know:
Cherry
Point
Road,
to
improve
some
of
the
connectivity
and
to
improve
overall
170,
as
this
project
goes
forward
and,
and
so
I
would
say
that
in
an
effort
to
maybe
present
some
better
information,
because
this
is
the
first
time
this
has
been
done
for
a
place
type
overlay
and
to
maybe
go
through
some
more
of
that
process.
Look
how
we're
going
to
work
together
with
staff
and
to
provide
y'all
with
some?
Maybe
some
more
specifics,
happy
to
take
notes
on
the
other
things
you
might
want.
U
I
would
ask
that
we
continue
this
to
the
next
meeting.
I
believe
that
there's
a
section
three
of
y'all's
rules
provides
for
a
continuance.
One
continuance
of
right
by
the
applicants,
who
would
ask
you
know,
did
that
be
allowed
and
happy
to
field
any
questions,
any
specifics
that
y'all
want,
so
that
when
we
come
back,
maybe
you
know
we're
actually
addressing
y'all's
y'all's
concern.
I've
heard
some
of
the
concerns
of
the
of
the
public
so
address
those,
because
I
do
think
this
tool.
U
U
A
V
V
V
So
a
coordinated,
sc-170,
Corridor
area
plan
with
a
shared
Community,
Vision
and
standards
to
Foster
Regional
cooperation
along
this
heavily
used.
Fast-Growing
multi-jurisdictional
Corridor
is
needed
to
guide
responsible
growth
in
this
area.
Decisions
on
specific
rezoning
requests,
such
as
the
Cherry
Point
rezoning,
should
be
informed
by
a
jointly
planned
policy
and
standards
about
surrounding
170..
The
coastal
conservation
League
strongly
encourages
the
Planning
Commission
to
postpone
this
decision
on
rezoning
and
future
rezonings
along
the
170
Corridor.
Until
such
a
plan
is
complete,
we
also
share
concerns
about
transportation
and
Environmental.
V
Understand
that
this
Creek
may
have
actually
been
impaired
by
a
able
able,
Contracting
fire,
which
was
in
2018
a
a
CND
landfill
actually
caught
on
fire,
and
so
you've
got
an
already
impaired
resource
and
just
adding
more
impervious
surface
is
going
to
sort
of
further
endanger
that
watershed,
and
I
mentioned
that.
You
know
this
area
is
seeing
something
like
37,
000
trips
per
day
and
I.
Think
maintaining
those
lower
densities
in
the
rural
areas
is
really
a
strategy
to
try
to
mitigate
some
of
that
traffic
rather
than
a
fancy.
V
J
B
B
Q
J
B
B
F
So
yeah
that
recommendation
applies
really
to
the
area
of
Old
Fields,
going
out
to
the
intersection
with
catalossian
the
Broad
River
that
part
of
170
and
coordinating
a
plan
with
hardyville
and
Jasper
County.
That
work
is
being
initiated
now.
I
would
say
a
very
conceptual
level.
It's
so
loco
they're,
putting
together
a
committee
to
look
at
a
joint
planning
and
growth
boundaries
in
that
Corridor
that
each
of
the
municipalities
could
agree
on.
A
H
It's
clear
that
there's
been
a
lot
of
work
done
on
this.
People
have
been
working
on
it
for
weeks,
perhaps
months.
We
saw
this
a
week
ago,
more
or
less
so
I
need
more
time.
I'm
thinking
the
rest
of
us
need
more
time
so
I'm
in
favor
of
the
continuance,
but
I
would
like
to
see
your
comments
about
the
traffic
timeline.
Who's
responsible.
Those
questions
get
answered,
I
also,
there's
I,
don't
think.
There's
anybody
here
from
the
school
district
who's
talked
about
the
the
school
situation.
A
I
I
I
think
I
have
some
issues
and
I
don't
know
if
a
continuance
is
going
to
solve
this
because
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
moving
parts
of
this
and
and
I
do
appreciate
what
staff
has
done
as
far
as
looking
at
this
tool
to
be
used
going
forward.
As
far
as
a
comprehensive
plan
is
concerned,
unfortunately,
I
think
it's
one
of
those
NIMBY
things
right,
not
in
my
backyard.
There's
a
lot
of
benefits
to
it.
I
think
going
forward.
It's
going
to
work
great
in
particular
areas
and
I
understand.
You
know.
I
The
comprehensive
plan
is
a
living
breathing
document
and
it
is
up
for
review
and
it
is
up
for
change
at
a
lot
of
intersections.
In
particular,
we
come
to
I
want
to
say
an
impasse,
but
in
a
position
like
this,
where
there
are
so
many
moving
Parts
some
things,
I,
don't
think
in
my
opinion-
and
it
doesn't
count
for
much-
are
going
to
be
addressed
in
30
to
45
dollars
30
to
45
days.
I
One
is,
as
the
gentleman
spoke
about
30
ecological
impact,
that
this
would
have
on
that
community
on
the
OBT
River,
the
Okatie
Branch
I
spoke
with
the
stormwater
folks
the
day
before
yesterday
or
late
last
week
about
issues
that
had
with
melon
Bluff
or
River
Oaks
to
see
what
type
of
impact
that
is
having
in
the
OBT
River.
As
far
as
you
know,
all
the
fecal
forms
and
everything
else
that
is
now
being
dumped
into
those
areas
because
of
the
reduction
in
the
oyster
beds.
I
I
Nobody
knows
if
that's
going
to
get
approved
or
not
I
think
one
of
the
most
important
facts
that
we
have
and
one
of
the
most
important
factors
we
have
right
now
is
educating
our
kids
and,
if
they're,
already
on
a
strained
infrastructure,
as
it
is
as
far
as
the
school
system
and
just
to
say,
well,
I
hope
that
they'll
get
passed,
that
we
can
grow
that
school
to
have
them
living.
You
know
working
out
of
portable
units
and
everything
until
the
budget
gets
approved
and
the
school
gets
built
like
I,
said,
I.
I
H
D
H
Probably
absolutely
right
and
that's
okay,
because
in
30
40
days,
we'll
know
more
than
we
do
at
this
moment.
It's
true
and
what
what
will
happen
is
at
that
point
we
can
then
say:
okay,
we
can
recommend
to
County
Council
to
postpone
them
say
and
they
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
and
do
more
massaging
and
you
know-
and
then
maybe
this
tool
will
at
a
later
time,
but
it's
okay
for
the
process
to
work.
The
way
it's
working,
all
right,
I
think.
D
These
are
very
small
Lots
in
an
area
that
is
already
impacted,
density,
wise
to
its
Max.
So
I
on
as
a
as
a
previous
developer,
I
would
say
in
fact,
I'll
I'll
confess
that
I
always
went
into
my
first
zoning
meeting
with
a
plan
that
I
knew
was
going
to
be
rejected
and
then
I
had
the
one
ready
that
I
thought
would
be
the
reasonable
one
to
begin
with
and
I
think
a
7200
square
foot
lot
and
six
per
acre.
Given.
N
D
Has
already
happened
around
this
property
is
simply
too
much
density,
I'm.
Also
troubled
and
I
heard
from
folks
about
the
buffering,
I'm
reminded
of
a
development
down
the
street
from
me
where
the
developer
promised
to
buffer
and
on
a
weekend
he
went
in
and
mowed
it
all
down
all
the
trees
and
all
the
buffering
20
foot
is
simply
not
enough
buffering
to
protect
these
people
that
should
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
what
the
regulations
say,
but
there
should
be
mounting
and
plantings
on
top
of
a
mound,
and
you
can't
do
that
in
20
feet.
D
I'm
a
developer,
I
can
tell
you,
it
goes
up
and
it
goes
down.
You'll
never
keep
any
growth
on
it,
because
it's
just
too
steep
the
slope
has
to
go
up
and
down,
and
so
the
buffering
needs
to
be
reviewed
and
I'm
very
troubled
by
the
entire
presumption
that
there's
going
to
be
a
school
bond
issue
that
will
be
approved
and
we
all
know
school
bond
issues
are
just
automatically
approved,
wait
a
minute,
no
they're,
not,
and
so
we're
betting
on
to
come.
D
There
I
don't
know
how
many
children
are
going
to
live
in
these
400
units,
but
I'm
going
to
suggest
that
that
will
exceed
the
capacity
and
they're
betting
on
the
come
that
the
school
bond
will
be
approved
based
on
those
issues,
I
think
the
plan
needs
to
be
revised.
I
think
the
density
is
way
too
high.
I'm,
sorry
that
it
it's
come
to
this.
But
when
you
look
at
everything,
that's
happened
around
this
property.
G
I
was
just
going
to
say
that
by
deferring
the
30
days
clearly,
the
applicant
has
heard
all
of
the
issues
that
we've
heard
tonight.
That
gives
them
the
opportunity
to
provide
us
with
more
of
that
information
and
we'll
know
in
30
days
whether
it
satisfaction
satisfactorily
answers
our
questions
are
not,
as
you
were
saying,
but
I
also
like
the
fact
that
this,
even
though
it's
another
trip
for
folks
to
come
back
here,
at
least
it's
another
opportunity
for
not
just
us
to
hear
the
responses
and
what's
being
proposed
in
the
changes.
G
But
it
also
gives
residents
an
opportunity
to
hear
what's
new
and
provide
more
information
rather
than
that
happening
behind
closed
doors.
So
I
think
the
the
deferral
makes
sense
in
terms
of
being
able
to
get
more
of
this
information
out
front
and
see
what
we
can
do
with
this
tool
that
we
haven't
had
a
chance
to
apply
up
until
now.