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K
You
I'm
bringing
with
me:
oh
yes,
president
erickson,
who
in
fact
chairs
the
subcommittee
on
ways
and
means
through
which
scdot
appropriations
are
made,
so
I
think
it's
going
to
be
particularly
germane
to
our
conversation
today.
Welcome.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
when
I
was
here,
I
guess
like
was
it
a
couple
weeks
ago.
Yes
days
were
in
together.
L
K
Can
you
hear
me
now?
Can
you
hear
now?
Yes,
okay
great,
when
I
was
here
a
couple
weeks
ago,
we
had
a
wide-ranging
discussion
regarding
the
transportation
sales
tax
proposal,
the
green
space
sales
tax
proposal,
and
there
were
a
couple
of
outstanding
questions
that
I
promised
to
get
back
to
you
and
report
on
the
first
of
which
was
what
was
the
possibility
of
some
of
the
items
that
you
all
were
thinking
about,
having
funded
through
the
penny
sales
tax
for
transportation?
K
K
It's
my
understanding
that,
primarily
in
northern
beaufort
county,
it
has
to
do
with
expanding
the
challenge,
creek
bridge
and
also
a
section
of
21
heading
to
where
there
are
some
planned
expansions
already
where
walmart
is
on.
Ladies
island,
following
up
with
secretary
hall,
and
I
believe
some
members
of
council
may
have
talked
to
her-
I'm
under
no
illusions
that
a
hundred
percent
of
that
money
is
going
to
get
funded.
You've
got
46.
Other
counties,
you've
got
170
state
lawmakers.
K
K
It
seems
that
exhausting
due
diligence
in
regard
to
what
can
be
handled
through
state
money
would
allow
you
to
get
to
a
delta
that
then
needs
to
be
handled
by
local
funds.
So
I
did
some
diligence
in
that
regard
and
representative
erickson
is
here
today
as
well,
particularly
important,
because
she
does
chair
the
ways
and
means
subcommittee
and
she
can
speak
to
some
of
those
state
appropriation
matters
as
well.
K
The
second
thing
was
in
regard
to
some
questions
that
the
county
attorney
had
about
the
mechanics
of
how
the
green
space
program
would
work.
There
is
some
language
in
this
local
option:
sales
tax
for
green
space.
That's
in
addition
to
the
usual
language.
You
typically
see
in
local
options,
sales,
tax,
referendums
and-
and
the
reason
for
that
is
this
in
in,
for
instance,
the
penny
sales
tax
for
transportation
that
you're
contemplating.
K
If
you
went
to
the
voters
with
a
referendum,
you
would
list
on
there
the
various
projects
that
you
intended
to
fund
out
of
that
money.
The
green
space
money
is
somewhat
different
in
that
you're
raising
money
for
the
general
overall
purpose
of
preservation.
Procurements.
But
you
don't
know
in
advance
what
those
tracks
of
land
or
easements
or
feed
simple
titles
are
going
to
be.
It's
the
nature
of
things
that
you
raise
the
money,
then
you
go
out
into
the
marketplace
and
you
find
out
what
a
willing
buyer
and
a
willing
seller.
K
K
In
other
words,
it
has
in
fact
gone
for
preservation,
procurements,
there's
a
situation
right
now
up
in
richland
county,
where
the
proceeds
of
a
of
a
local
option,
sales
tax
went
for
things
other
than
what
was
contemplated
so
because
of
the
open-ended
nature
of
this.
In
terms
of
you
don't
know
yet
what
lands
are
being
acquired?
That's
why
that
additional
language
is
in
there
in
regard
to
the
advisory
committee.
In
regard
to
the
dor.
K
Now
there
was
a
question
from
the
county
attorney
as
to
what
level
of
involvement
would
dor
have
in
in
providing
that
certification
or
providing
that
level
of
oversight,
and
I
provided
a
letter
solicited
a
letter
from
hartley
powell
who's,
the
director
of
department
of
revenue,
actually
from
their
general
counsel,
saying
that
dor
would
handle
this
local
option.
Sales
tax
for
green
space
like
to
do
anything
else,
it
would
collect
the
money
remit
it
to
the
county.
K
That
then,
would
be
reviewed
by
the
advisory
committee
in
the
dor
to
confirm
that
the
money
was
going
for
preservation
purposes,
so
it
would
be
an
administrative
layer
on
top
of
it.
So
there
was
some
confusion
as
to
whether
or
not
that
advisory
committee
was
going
to
be
the
entity
that
actually
made
the
preservation
procurement,
so
whether
it
had
final
authority
in
that
regard
or
whether
it
was
going
to
substitute
this
judgment
instead
of
beautiful
county
council.
That
isn't
the
case.
It's
it's
simply
in
regard
to.
K
Let
me
take
you
through
an
example,
say
a
tractor
land
with
the
coolers
property
out
there
at
by
oldfield,
say
that
was
identified
by
whatever
committee.
The
county
council
decided
to
appoint
to
make
preservation
recommendations
and
it
went
to
beaufort
county
council
for
final
approval,
because
you
guys
would
have
final
say
so.
You
then
approve
that
that
would
then
go
to
the
department
of
revenue
for
confirmation
that,
yes,
the
money
that
you
intend
to
use
here
for
this
purpose
is
within
the
meaning
of
this
statute,
in
other
words,
for
procurement.
K
It's
for
preservation,
it's
for
conservation,
the
advisory
committee
and
the
dor
would
would
sign
off
on
that
and
then
the
green
light
would
then
be
given
to
the
county
to
actually
follow
through
on
that
acquisition.
So
I
received
an
opinion
from
dior's
general
counsel
in
that
regard,
to
answer
those
questions,
also
in
regard
to
the
plenary
authority
of
county
council
to
make
the
final
decisions.
In
regard
to
procurements,
I
got
a
letter
from
the
the
clerk
to
the
senate
saying
this
is
exactly
how
it's
supposed
to
work.
K
M
I
still
have
another
question
regarding
the
the
use
of
the
funds
I
have.
I
have
a
real
problem
with
using
dollars:
tax
dollars
for
lease
agreements.
I've
seen
that
backfire
in
other
states,
where
usda
partnered
with
the
state
and
also
the
military
to
buy
a
10-year
lease
on
agricultural
land
and
then
within
10.
As
soon
as
those
10
years
were
out,
the
property
was
sold
yes
ma'am
or
to
protect
wetlands
too.
So
I
I
I
just
have
that
section
4-10
and
then
it
also.
K
You
can
pick
any
one
of
those
things
and
then
the
second
thing
would
be
ultimate
authority
in
regard
to
what
you
want
to
do
with
the
money
is
reserved
under
this
council
I
mean
so
it's
not
as
if
you're
turning
it
over
to
a
committee
with
a
charge
to
go
out
there
and
lease
land
I
mean
all
they're
going
to
do
is
whatever
decision
you
make.
The
county
council
makes
in
regard
to
expenditure
of
those
monies.
K
Their
limited
role
is
saying:
yes,
in
fact,
these
dollars
are
going
for
one
of
these
procurements
that
are
authorized
in
that
statute.
So
if,
if
leases
are
not
desirable
as
a
public
policy-
and
I
take
your
points
howard,
that
would
be
something
that
this
county
council
would
not
have
to
approve
and-
and
I
suspect,
given
the
way
you
feel
about
it-
and
given
your
ability
to
make
that
case
to
the
council,
I
would
suspect
that
wouldn't
be
one
of
the
things
that
was
adopted.
M
N
M
K
The
point
I'd
like
to
make
is
is
that
the
role
of
that
advisory
committee
is
simply
as
sort
of
a
diligence
to
make
sure
that,
yes,
in
fact,
county
council
is
using
that
money
for
preservation
purposes
and
again,
the
reason
that
was
added
in
there
is
because
you
don't
unlock
with
the
penny
sales
tax.
You
don't
have
listed
up
front
exactly
what
that
money
is
going
to
go
for.
So
it's
a
little
more
open-ended
right.
K
So
there
was
a
need
for
a
little
bit
more
assurance
that
the
money
was
actually
being
used
for
the
purpose
that
the
statute
provides.
In
regard
to
your
first
concern
in
regard
to
the
plenary
power
of
the
county,
the
opinion,
the
legal
opinion
from
the
clerk
of
the
senate
is
in
regard
to
what
authority
does
the
county
have?
Okay,
this
money
is
accruing
for
the
benefit
of
beaufort
county
for
the
purpose
provided
in
the
statute.
You've
got
the
authority
to
appoint
the
committee.
K
You've
got
the
authority
to
approve
any
recommendations
by
that
committee
and
you
can
direct
that
committee
to
be
whoever
you
want
it
to
be
working
in
conjunction
with
whomever
you
want
to
work
with,
whether
it
be
the
royal
critical
lands
board
or
the
open
land
trust
or
the
coastal
conservation
league.
Whatever
degree
of
diligence
gives
you
all
comfort,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
it
would
be
beaufort
county
council
through
you,
know,
readings
that
would
have
to
approve
the
actual
purchases,
and
I
knew
that
was
a
concern,
ms
howard.
K
So
that's
why
I
had
that
that
legal
opinion
issued,
because
I
wanted
to
be
able
to
reassure
you
guys
that
beaufort
county
council
was
the
one
signing
off
on
this.
So
if
you
don't
like
leases,
it's
not
going
to
be
leases.
If
you,
if
you
don't
like
a
certain
track,
you
don't
approve
that
track,
I
mean
so.
You
have
plenary
authority.
M
K
Bit
and
it's
a
fair
question,
because
the
way
the
way
it
was
I
mean-
and
it
is
unusual
because
you're
not
used
to
seeing
this
layer
of
oversight
in
your
local
options-
sales
tax
referendum-
you
know
it's
kind
of
a
new
wrinkle
and
the
reason
for
that
is,
as
I
said
before,
unlike
other
local
options,
sales
taxes,
this
one
is
prospective
in
nature
and
identifying
what
you're
going
to
do
with
the
money.
What's
what?
What
exactly?
What
tracks
are
you
going
to
get?
What
easements
would
be
simple?
K
Yes,
we
certify
the
money
is
going
for
these
preservation
purposes
and
not
for
some
other,
not
for
some
other
thing,
but
so
so
I
attempted
to
address
what
role
the
advisory
committee
plays
with
dor,
it's
sort
of
like
an
administrative
oversight,
but
the
authority
in
regard
to
identifying
tracks
whether
it
be
leases,
whether
it
be
fee
simple,
whether
it
be
conservation,
easement
whatever
it
is,
that
lies
with
beaufort
county
council
you're
you're
that
you're
the
entity
with
plenary
authority.
Here.
M
K
K
What
interests
are
being
purchased
and
if
you
look
at
the
opinion
that
was
issued,
it's
explicit
in
that
regard
that
that
beaufort
county
council
is
the
entity
that
has
a
right
to
make
those
decisions
and
the
role
that
dor
and
the
advisory
committee
plays
is
simply
to
confirm
that
the
money
is
being
used
for
preservation
purposes
and
not
for
some
other.
Not
for
some
other
thing.
That's
not
authorized
by
the
statute.
O
M
And
this
is
another
issue
I
have
is
two
elected
officials
on
it:
a
state
legislator
and
a
yes,
because
you
know
elected
officials
have
undue
influence
as
any
committee,
either
as
a
county
or
a
state
legislator.
Those
two
there
may
be
only
two
votes,
but
they
are
really
more
than
two
votes.
In
my
opinion,
I've
seen
that.
M
K
Would
share
that
concern
miss
howard,
if,
in
fact,
this
advisory
committee
was
the
one
making
recommendations
on
tracks
of
land
to
purchase
or
if
they
are
the
ones
that
have
the
final
authority
on
deciding
what
traction
land
to
purchase,
but
their
role
here
again
is
extremely
limited.
Their
role
here
is
simply
to
certify
that
what
county
council
has
decided
through
through
you
know,
readings
and
deciding
in
in
public
and
public
session,
what
they've
decided
or
proposed
to
do
with
this
money,
their
role
is
limited
to
saying
yes,
in
fact,
this
is
for
conservation
and
preservation.
K
It's
not
to
build
a
road
or
it's
not
to
build
a
school
or,
if
it's
not
for
some
other
purpose,
it's
just
there
as
sort
of
an
auditing
function.
They
don't
have
policy
making
authority,
but
I
would
share
your
concern
if
it
did
and
that's
why
it
was
important
to
have
the
dor
say
in
no
way
do
we
view
that
to
be
our
role,
we're
going
to
handle
this
in
the
same
way,
we
do
other
local
options,
sales
taxes
we're
going
to
collect
the
money,
we're
going
to
remit
the
money
of
the
county.
K
The
only
thing
we're
going
to
do
that's
different
because
of
this
language
is
when
beaufort
county
council
says
this
is
what
we
propose
to
do
with
this
chunk
of
money
for
this
land,
we're
going
to
certify
that
it's
for
preservation
purposes,
and
it's
not
for
some
other
purpose.
I
mean
that's
it's
it's
the
same
thing
with
the
advisory
committee.
K
M
It's
going
to
be
difficult
to
implement
it
with
all
these
different
things.
I
mean,
I
appreciate
your
explanation
it
and
it
does
help
me
better
to
understand
it,
but
then
I
I
can't
help
but
compare
it
to
our
our
transportation
and
greenbelt
tax
referendum,
which
seems
a
lot
cleaner
and
easier
to
administer
to
me.
So
I
think.
K
That's
a
fair
point
I
mean,
and
and
and
to
be
fair
or
to
be
completely
forthcoming
here.
This
is
something
brand
new
for
the
state
of
south
carolina.
I
mean
this
would
be
we'd,
be
the
first
county
to
try
to
do
this
open
space
referendum
we'd
be
the
first
county
to
to
to
implement
it
or
to
discharge
it
and
or
to
fulfill
what
the
statute
authorizes.
K
If
you
all
decide
to
do
it,
and
so
you're
asking
good
questions,
I
mean:
how
is
it
going
to
work
because
you're
used
to
looking
at
something
with
much
specificity,
you're
saying
all
right
in
this
referendum?
We
have
very
listed
on
here
this
highway,
this
highway
this
highway,
and
I
understand
that
this
is
different.
This
is
different
because
you're
entrusting
into
the
future
that
wise
decisions
are
going
to
be
made
in
regard
of
that
money.
K
I
guess
the
only
thing
that
I
would
say
miss
howard,
is
that
ultimately
it's
going
to
be
this
beaufort
county
council.
That
makes
the
decisions
and
again
the
only
role
the
dor
and
the
advisory
committee
plays
is
to
simply
say,
is
this
going
for
conservation?
Is
this
going
for
preservation,
or
is
it
for
some
other
purpose
unauthorized
by
the
statute?
So
ultimately
it's
going
to
be
in
your
laps
as
to
how
that
money
is
spent.
P
Councilman
howard,
if
I
could
interject
that
point
was
debated
in
the
house
and
we
actually
had
a
lot
of
discussion
and
public
input
that
the
elected
officials
on
that
oversight
were
the
people's
elected
serving
the
people
with
the
money
as
the
focus
as
a
little
bit
more
accountability
than
just
a
citizen
who
physically
might
not
have
any
accountability
for
that
piece.
It
was
discussed
if
I
agree
with
senator
davis
in
that,
if
they
were
making
decisions
on
property,
it
would
not
have
been
entertained
in
the
house.
P
It
was
discussed
at
length,
so
the
the
piece
was
to
have
those
who
are
appropriating
funds
and
looking
at
these
things
on
different
levels
being
county
and
state
as
part
of
simply
a
checklist
did
the
pieces
and
parcels
that
you
decide
meet
the
criteria
for
what
you
asked
for
it
to
do,
and
that's
what
they're
going
to
do
on
that
piece
now.
I
have
no
decision
for
you
or
opinion
on
which
one
you
choose.
I
would
also
offer
the
the
transportation
piece
I
spoke
with
secretary
hall
at
length.
P
We
discussed
the
level
of
of
need
in
the
area
and
the
safety
piece
being
of
large
concern,
so
I
would
tell
you
that
that
it's
on
her
radar,
we
have
meetings
scheduled
that
we'll
follow
up
with,
but
senator
davidson
also
spoke
today
about
the
office
of
resiliency
that
we
could
potentially
talk
to
as
well.
There
are
more
ways
for
us
to
procure
funds
and
with
senator
davis
over
in
in
the
senate,
on
the
finance
committee
and
representative
herbert,
and
I
serving
on
ways.
M
C
That
comment
I
did
yeah
I
had.
I
tried
to
get
my
hand
up,
but
anyway,
yeah
a
couple
of
things
and
alice
kind
of
alluded
to
one
of
them
that
the
the
specific
language
and
the
formation
of
this
committee
that
we've
been
talking
about
a
lot
is
a
county
in
which
a
referendum
is
passed,
shall
assemble
an
advisory
committee
to
assist
the
department
of
revenue
with
directing
the
distribution
of
taxes
collected
and
here's.
The
part
that's
interesting,
to
ensure
a
transparent
and
equal
distribution
within
the
county.
C
Equal
distribution
within
the
county
that
raised
a
whole
bunch
of
questions,
and
if
you
read
the
entire
statute,
a
couple
of
places
in
there
refers
to
governmental
units,
appropriate
governmental
units
as
opposed
to
counties,
and
when,
when
I
hear
a
term
governmental
unit
as
opposed
to
counties,
I
have
to
ask
myself:
well:
are
they
talking
about
municipalities?
Are
they
talking
about
special
purpose?
What
are
they
talking
about?
And,
of
course
all
of
the
above
are
mentioned
in
there.
So,
what's
not
clear
to
me
is
more.
This.
C
C
Well,
that's
that's
the
first
question
that
I
would
put
out
there
because
it's
just
not
clear
to
me.
I've
read
this
statute
several
times
and
I
because
when
you
say
when
the
statute
itself
says
to
ensure
equal
distribution
within
the
county
and
also
in
the
same
vein,
there's
a
there's
a
section
in
here
that
talks
about.
C
What
what
the
proceeds
can
be
used
for
and
which
they
may
include,
preservation
procurements
located
within
or
without
or
both
within
or
without
the
boundaries
of
the
local
government
entities?
There
we
go
again
local
government
entities,
including
county
municipalities
and
special
purpose
districts,
so
I
mean
I
can
read
it
one
way,
saying
it's:
okay,
to
preserve
land
in
all
of
those
political
subdivisions.
K
K
I
it
does
not
refer
to
any
other
monies
going
to
any
other
unit
or
municipality
or
governmental
entity
as
having
authority.
That's
fairly
clear,
I
think
you
know
in
in
the
in
the
statute
as
a
whole.
Reading
the
statute
as
a
whole
is
beaufort
county
council.
That's
authorizing
this
beaufort
county
council,
that's
submitting
it
to
a
referendum
and,
as
the
opinion
from
the
clerk
of
the
senate
says
it's
beaufort
county
council
that
has
plenary
authority
in
regard
to
how
that
money
is
spent.
K
The
the
language
that
you've
read
in
regard
to
equal
distribution
throughout
the
whatever
the
language
was
is
in
regard
to
is
it
being
done
equitably,
and
that
is
for
the
dor
and
the
advisory
committee
to
look
at
to
see
whether
or
not
one
area
of
the
county
is
being
favored
over
another
again.
This
is
this
is
something
that's
new
and
something
that
we're
trying
for
the
first
time
and
we've
never
had
a
a
local
option.
Sales
tax
raising.
You
know
a
stream
of
funds
that
would
be
leveraged
into
bonds.
K
C
It
is,
I
guess,
what
I'm
trying
to
get
comfortable
with
is
so.
I
read
this
to
say
that
six
municipalities
and
their
lawyers
are
going
to
stand
in
line
for
their
quote.
Unquote,
fair
share,
or
is
this
going
to
be
somebody
decide
this
committee
deciding
well
looking
at
it
east
west,
north
south
and
by
the
way
we
kind
of
laughed
about
that
north,
south,
east
and
west,
because
we
wouldn't
know
what
north
south,
east
and
west
of
hubert
county
look
like,
but
but
no
matter
whether
it's
political
subdivisions
or
whether
it's
geographical
areas?
C
I
don't
think
so.
I
don't
think
there's
any
question
given
your
answer,
that
that
this
committee
is
going
to
make
a
determination,
a
subjective,
determination,
at
least
partially
subjective
determination
on
where
these
funds
should
be
spent.
I
mean
if
I
were,
if
I
were
a
lawyer
for
one
of
one
of
the
municipalities,
I'd
look
at
this
and
say
well
wait
a
second
now
you
know
we
we
need
to
get
our
share.
According
to
this
you
say
no
well,
maybe
not.
C
K
Yes,
let
me
let
me
answer
finish
up
my
answer
to
your
first
question
a
little
bit
better.
First,
I
think
it's
fair,
it's
fair
to
say
that
in
in
and
having
this
advisory
committee
in
the
dor
kind
of
passing
upon
how
you
decide
to
appropriate
the
money.
Beaufort
county
council
that
beaufort
county
council
have
to
bear
in
mind,
as
it
goes
forward
with
its
plan
that
all
areas
of
the
county
are
treated
equitably.
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
this
is
an
instructive
and
a
direction.
K
K
And
it's
to
your
second
question
and
this
question
came
up
as
well
during
a
floor
debate
in
the
senate.
I'm
not
sure
about
the
house,
but
when
you
look
at
beaufort
county
in
particular,
and
you
look
at
our
watershed
and
you
look
at
the
quality
of
our
rivers
to
a
material
extent,
the
quality
of
those
rivers
is
dependent
upon
what
happens
in
jasper
county.
K
This
is
something
brand
new
it
is.
It
is
something
that
I
think
would
be
groundbreaking.
It
is
something
that
I
think
beaufort
county
could
take
the
lead
on
and
show
the
rest
of
the
state,
and
it
may
be
that
through
regulation,
through
dor
or
through
amendment
in
the
general
assembly,
if
given
the
experiences
that
beaufort
county
council
or
beaufort
county
has
with
this,
you
know
shows
that,
for
programs
like
this
to
work
seamlessly,
adjustments
are
made.
K
I
can
tell
you
this
passed
almost
unanimously
in
the
house
and
the
senate,
and
it
is
the
will
of
the
general
assembly
to
empower
counties,
and
so
if
there
are
logistical
problems
or
technical
problems
or
things
aren't
flowing
as
well,
I
can
tell
you
and
maybe
representative
erickson
consecutive-
that's
not
going
to
be
a
problem
either
through
reg,
with
dor
or
through
a
statutory
change,
but
we
did
the
best.
We
could
with
this
with
something
that's
brand
new.
We
work
with
the
association
of
counties
on
this.
We
work
with
dor
on
this.
F
And
something
could
be
interpreted
two
different
ways
from
a
from
a
legislative
standpoint.
Is
there
any
way
to
let's
not
really
codify
it,
but
to
get
an
opinion
that
essentially
says?
Oh,
this
is
what
we
really
intended
here.
That
would
maybe
foreclose
the
municipalities
suing
us
over
that
which
could
get
very
messy.
Q
K
Attorney
general's
office
and
and
and
representative
erickson,
and
I
can
can
endeavor
to
get
a
written
opinion
from
the
attorney
general
to
answer.
Some
of
these
questions
that
miss
miss
howard
is
raising,
and
mr
sommerville
is
raising
to
give
you
all
additional
comfort
in
that
regard,
and
I'm
happy
to
work
on
that.
As
I
know,
this
representative
erickson
would
be.
I
I.
E
K
Right-
and
I-
and
I
can
tell
you
just
by
way
of
information,
mr
harpershot
jasper
county
is
considering
a
similar
referendum
to
put
on
the
ballot
this
november.
I
work
with
their
attorney
david
tetter.
He
has
some
of
the
same
questions
that
mr
kevin
he
had
in
regard
to
the
mechanics
of
it.
What's
the
role
of
the
advisory
committee,
what's
the
role
the
dor,
who
has
plenary
authority
and
how
to
spend
that
money
so,
but
but
no
would
not
involve
annexation.
No,
sir.
Okay.
Thank
you
which.
D
D
It
purchased
green
space,
just
like
you
outlined
in
this
legislation
here
and
whether
you
like
the
landowners
or
not
the
money.
The
proceed
actually
goes
directly
to
the
land
owner
for
either
simple
conservation,
easements
or
whatever,
but
the
landowners
are
really
the
beneficiary
of
those
funds,
the
one
of
the
problems
and
it
doesn't,
we
don't
have
to
do
it
that
way
as
a
county.
If,
if
this
passes,
we
can
approve
the
appropriation
whatever.
D
I
mean
they
would
think
that
they
would
have
left
some
of
that
land
open
just
because
of
nature,
and
when
I
was
at
clemson
I'll
tell
you
that
I
used
to
get
a
lot
of
phone
calls
from
sun
city
because
of
feral
hogs
and-
and
I
told
them,
y'all
put
your
house
in
their
domain
and
they
have
no
other
place
to
go
but
where
they
used
to
go.
We've
taken
a
lot
of
weight,
and
I
wish
something
like
this
was
here
before
the
the
the
horse
actually
got
on
the
barn.
D
But
it's
out
of
the
bond
right
now
and
we're
trying
to
capture
that
and
the
recipient
of
this
funds
may
actually
end
up
in
the
hands
of
developers.
Who
will
then
probably
take
that
money
and
come
go
all
the
places
to
buy
property
for
development?
I
wish
we
could
put
the
money
in
the
hands
of
the
landowners
first
before
any
of
this
property
is
actually
tran.
You
know
transpired
so.
K
Could
respond
about
bill?
Respond,
respond
to
those
very
good
comments,
absolutely
and-
and
I
would
share
what
you
have
to
say
about
the
world
critical
lands.
I
mean
frankly,
as
as
this
was
being
drafted
and
debated
and
as
I
thought,
through
what
it
might
look
like
in
beaufort
county.
In
my
mind,
it
was
always
going
to
be
rural.
K
Critical
lands
was
going
to
be
involved
in
this
somehow
because
it
has
incurred
such
good
will
over
time
and
the
respect
of
this
community,
as
evidenced
by
the
percentage
by
which
bond
referendums
have
been
approved
in
the
past.
I
think
they
get
in
the
mid
70s,
which
is
almost
unheard
of
so
so
I
share
what
you
have
to
say
about
that.
I
also
agree
with
you
that,
and
I'm
not
here
to
throw
any
stones
at
anybody,
but
I
think
we're
in
this
box
right
now
and
by
the
box.
K
I
mean
that
if
everything
that's
already
been
approved,
okay
is
built
we're
looking
at
a
doubling
of
the
rooftops
in
southern
beaufort
county
and
an
absolute
ruining
of
our
environment,
and
you
talk
about
traffic
problems
on
the
roads.
You
double
the
amount
of
cars
that
are
there.
I
don't
care
how
many,
how
many
roads
you
want
you're
going
to
have
you're
going
to
have
traffic
problems.
You
have
to
get
to
the
source
of
the
problem,
and-
and
I
wish
we
didn't-
have
municipalities
and
let's
just
call
an
asian
aids
a
lot
of
times.
K
Landowners
will
come
in
and
they'll
say
well
annex
into
your
municipality.
If
you
give
us
higher
densities,
and
you
see
that
same
dynamic
playing
out
not
only
in
beaufort
county,
you
see
it
playing
out
in
jasper
county.
So
so
I'll
agree
with
you
and-
and
that's
why
I
said
what
I
did
two
weeks
said
two
weeks
ago
in
order
for
this
to
work.
K
On
the
other
hand,
I
mean
that's
just
self-defeating
and-
and
I
understand
that
you
make
an
excellent
point
and
I
wish
we
could
go
back
10
years
and
and
implement
something
like
this
and
and
buy
up
some
of
these
large
track
of
land
tracks
of
land
that
are
now
being
subdivided
into
thousands
of
lots.
I
wish
we
could,
but
we
are
where
we
are
right
now
we
are
where
we
find
ourselves,
and
I
guess
what
I
was
thinking
to
myself.
K
It's
you
guys
beaufort
county
council,
that's
ultimately
going
to
decide
how
that
money
is
spent.
Okay,
you're,
the
ones
that
are
going
to
make
those
hard
decisions
in
regard
to
how
to
wisely
spend
that
money,
and
just
like
the
point
I
made
to
miss
howard,
if,
if
leases,
aren't,
aren't
a
way
to
go
for
the
good
reasons
that
she
suggested,
I
suspect
that's
not
going
to
be
one
of
the
things
that
beaufort
county
council
approves,
but
but
I
share
your
wishfulness
that
we
could
go
back
10
years
and
implement
it.
K
Then,
instead
of
doing
it
now,
but
I
still
think
there's
time.
Okay,
I
mean
these
are
cancer
cells
but
they're
not
yet
they're,
not
yet
you
know
active
they're
sort
of
dormant.
We
can
still
go
in
there
and
do
chemo,
okay
and
and
but
I
think,
the
caucus
ticking,
which
is
why
I
think
it's
important
to
do
it
this
november.
K
If
we
waited
two
more
years
and
this
has
to
be
held
in
the
general
election
cycle,
the
way
the
the
order
the
act
is
worded,
it
has
to
be
in
a
regular
cycle,
it
couldn't
be
next
year,
it
would
have
to
be
in
2024.
We
don't
know
now.
I
fear
that
if
we
wait
two
years,
those
puds
and
those
development
agreements
and
those
tracks
of
land
that
right
now
are
under
tremendous
pressure
to
develop
they're
going
to
be
developed
in
a
couple
years,
and
I
think
our
opportunity
will
be
missed.
D
Another
comment
I
make
is
that
I
I
commend
you
for
taking
the
I
call
the
bull
by
the
home
and
bringing
whatever
you
can
do
to
bring
the
port
to
jasper
county,
because
a
lot
of
jasper
county
revenue
was
actually
on
landowners
at
agriculture
land.
So
they
could
not
gain
a
lot
of
revenue,
but
that
port
will
help
them
a
whole
lot.
Now,
in
the
meantime,
I
guess
they're
expanding
with
rooftops,
which
is
compounded
the
situation
in
a
low
country.
D
K
I
Ahead
briefly,
if
I
could
first
thank
you
both
for
all
taking
the
time
to
come
today
and
setting
this
up,
I'm
probably
not
the
most
green
person
here
on
county
council,
not
the
biggest
unfocused
on
the
environmental
issues,
but
one
thing
I
will
say
that
we've
noticed
on
county
council
over
the
past
couple
months
in
the
last
year
and
a
half
is
there's
been
a
lot
of
talk
of.
When
are
we
going
to
do
affordable
housing?
I
What
are
we
going
to
start
focusing
on
that
biggest
thing
always
says:
when
are
we
going
to
slow
down
the
growth?
When
are
we
going
to
stop
the
growth?
When
are
we
going
to
move
forward
with
the
bridge?
When
are
we
going
to
move
forward
with
their
roads
and
it
seems
like
we
have
a
lot
of
those
conversations
and
nobody
actually
ever
does
anything.
I
So
that's
one
of
the
biggest
reasons
I
support
this.
Yes,
it
might
not
be
perfect.
Yes,
we
might
have
questions
police,
we're
actually
doing
something
we're
putting
boots
on
the
ground
and
putting
something
in
place
and
trying
to
put
a
dent
into
some
of
the
things
that
have
been
put
in
place
before
us
prior
people
in
our
seats
and
we're
trying
to
make
a
stand
to
the
people
that
voted
us
here
to
say:
hey.
I
We
want
to
slow
down
the
growth
and
we
all
know
we
can't
say:
okay,
we'll
close
the
door
now
that
you're
here,
but
there
are
things
we
can
do
to
make
an
effort,
and
this
gives
us
that
tool.
It's
the
same
thing
with
some
of
the
things
we're
trying
here
in
county
council
with
affordable
housing,
now
we're
looking
at
different
opportunities,
different
ways
to
try
it.
I
understand
it's
a
great
program.
I
I
hope
we
can
move
forward
with
this
year.
It's
something
I
support,
even
if
it
is
you
know,
negotiating
so
like
we
talked
about
the
five
years
ten
years,
full
penny,
half
penny.
Those
are
a
lot
of
questions
we
still
have,
but
at
least
we're
making
an
effort
to
do
something.
Instead
of
talking
about
it
and
kicking
it
down.
The
road
until
the
next
election
cycle,
where
someone
says
oh,
we
want
a
candidate,
that's
going
to
stop
the
growth
here
in
beaufort
county
and
then
someone
up
here
is
going
to
be
like
oh
yeah.
I
We
tried
to
do
this,
but
let's
at
least
put
our
money
where
our
mouth
is
and
do
something
about
it
and
that's
where
I
stand
on
it:
the
transportation
tax
that
you
know
I
even
supported.
Originally,
I
didn't
want
any
new
roads
because
I'm
not
trying
to
grow
the
area,
I'm
trying
to
maintain
what
we
have
and
perfect
what
we
have
and
if
that
means
buying
up
space,
so
we
can
catch
up
on
the
road
density,
then
so
be
it.
Is
it
the
best
player
in
the
world?
I
K
So
here
point
mr
cunningham,
when
this
bill
was
initially
drafted
by
our
delegation-
and
it
was
a
delegation
effort,
it
was
for
the
low
country
because
the
low
country
has
the
most
fragile
ecosystem.
It's
the
one
that
that
I
care
most
about.
But
when
I
introduced
the
legislation
I
had
people
in
greenville
and
and
and
the
upstate
and
in
the
midlands,
they're
also
feeling
the
pinch,
and
so
that's
when
it
was
expanded
to
not
only
a
plot
of
coastal
counties
but
to
every
county.
K
K
One
of
my
colleagues
the
other
day
they
said
well,
we
got
your
green
space
bill.
The
delegation
green
space
bill
passed.
Are
you
guys
going
to
do
something
with
it?
They're
watching
us
greenville
is
watching
us.
Charleston
county
is
watching
us.
I
mean
they're
wanting
to
see
somebody
go
ahead
and,
as
you
say,
mr
cunningham
do
something
proactively.
H
H
M
M
I
support
the
transportation
and
greenbelt
tax
referendum.
It's
patterned
after
the
one
in
charleston,
which
has
been
very
successful
with
the
green
green
belt
program
up
there.
It
has
things
in
it
for
resiliency,
which
you've
mentioned.
I
think
there's
too
many
questions
about
this
one
and
how
to
implement
it,
and
for
that
reason
I'm
more.
P
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
As
I
said,
I
I'm
not
going
to
make
a
decision
for
you,
I'm
going
to
offer
information.
I
will
tell
you
that
from
the
transportation
committee
in
the
house
and
carried
through
through
the
transportation
committee
in
the
in
the
senate,
the
budget
for
beaufort
counties,
the
funds
coming
from
the
state
are
increasing.
We
put
a
billion
dollars
into
roads.
P
P
Hopefully,
38
get
widened
and
re-surfaced
here
they're
doing
the
engineering
as
we
speak,
we're
almost
doubling
our
county
transportation
funds
for
every
county
in
the
state.
We
hope
that
these
will
help
people
see
that
their
tax
dollars
are
being
used
wisely
and
going
for
what
we
promised
them
they
would
go
to.
So
this
is
a
difficult
task.
I
know
you've
got
two
opportunities
here
and
you're
just
going
to
have
to
figure
out
which
one
is
is
the
best
that
fits
you
all.
P
P
So
when
we
go
get
those
opinions,
I'm
going
to
feel
comfortable
that
you're
going
to
get
opinions
that
back
up
the
ability
for
the
county
to
be
making
the
decisions.
At
least
that's
all
the
debate
that
there
was
in
the
house
side-
and
I
watched
most
of
what
was
on
the
senate
side
as
well,
so
you've
got
to
decide
you're
the
elected
by
the
people,
the
government
closest
to
them.
P
Making
this
decision
you've
got
two
great
opportunities
and,
quite
frankly,
I'm
glad
that
you're
going
to
make
the
decision
and
and
not
me-
and
I
bless
you
for
that,
because
you
know
we'll
go
back
and
make
the
other
decisions.
That
are
that
you
might
not
want
to
make.
But
I
thank
you
all
for
your
time,
especially
listening
to
senator
davis's
answers.
He's
been
working
really
hard
on
this
for
the
entire
county,
and
our
delegation
is
very
supportive
of
this.
Both
of
them.
P
K
K
If
it
worked
for
the
fact
that
we've
appropriated
200
million
dollars
in
new
recurring
money
d.o.t
on
top
of
the
gas
tax,
if
it
were
for
the
fact
that
we
set
aside
a
billion
dollars
in
a
contingency
reserve
fund,
if
it
were
for
the
fact
that
you've
got
literally
billions
of
dollars
up
there
in
road
money
that
we
can
actively
and
persuasively
petition
for,
I
would
be
more
sympathetic
to
the
penny
sales
tax
for
the
roads.
With
all
due
respect,
I
think
due
diligence
requires
going
after
that
state
money.
K
A
A
It
is
my
opinion
that
county
council
should
move
forward
with
the
second
reading,
because
you've
assured
us
the
questions
that
we
have
we're
going
to
get
additional
answers
to.
I
am
comfortable
with
the
fact
that
you
said
something.
That's
near
and
dear
to
my
heart.
We
like
to
have
preservation
of
land.
We
are
the
forerunner
of
that
we
have
a
process
in
place.
That
says
we
can
continue
on
with
that
process.
A
The
committee
that
you
are
setting
up
is
advisory
ministerial
to
ensure
that
what
this
group
does
over
here
comes
to
them
and
they
just
say.
Yes,
in
fact,
it
is
preservation.
Go
ahead.
My
only
concern
a
question
I
have
is:
okay,
it
eventually
gets
to
dor
and
dor
has
the
authority
to
say
we
don't
think
that
that
is
land
preservation.
K
They're
simply
going
to
say:
is
this
going
for
preservation,
or
is
it
going
for
something
that's
completely
foreign
to
this
statute,
but
to
the
extent
that
we
need
to
be
more
specific
in
that
regard,
and
I
think
that
they
are
specific
I'll
I'll
get
that
for
you
as
well.
I
understand
ms
howard
raises
great
questions.
So
does
mr
somerville,
I
feel
confident
that
we
get
you
all
answers
by
the
time.
They're
served.
Reading,
great
and.
A
On
the
transportation
referendum
you
hit
the
nail
on
the
head,
I
was
the
one
that
came
to
you
and
said
we
have
a
lot
of
money
in
there
that
the
taxpayers
of
beaufort
county
should
not
be
paying
for
when
somebody
else,
namely
the
federal
government
through
the
bipartisan
bipartisan
infrastructure
legislation,
may
be
able
to
help
us
the
additional
money
that
the
state
is
getting,
and
so
I
commend
you
for
moving
forward
with
that.
That
means
that
we
do
have
to
take
a
look
at
our
transportation
referendum.
A
They
did
a
wonderful
job
of
laying
out.
This
is
exactly
what
we
need
now
we
have
to
parse
that
out
and
say
we
don't
need
this
in
the
referendum.
This
could
be
done
elsewhere.
We
can.
We
can
take
that
and
change
the
referendum.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
coming
and
cleaning
up
some
things.
Okay,
we
only
have
a
couple
minutes.
I'd
like
to
take
a
look
at
the
agenda
to
see.
If
any
of
you
have
questions
on
the
agenda,
we
only
have
one
consent
agenda
item
that
I
believe
is
unanimous
in
nature.
A
F
A
A
Everyone
welcome
to
the
county
council
meeting
of
monday
july
11th.
It
was
supposed
to
start
at
six
o'clock,
but
it
is
now
6
13..
I
would
like
to
call
this
meeting
to
order
with
the
clerk.
Please
call
the
roll.
We
are
a
hybrid
group
this
evening,
which
means
we
have
several
of
council
people
here
in
county
council,
but
we
do
have
several
online.
A
A
T
I
Heavenly
father,
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
for
us
to
be
able
to
meet
here
today.
Lord.
This
is
something
that
we
don't
take
for
granted
and
I
hope
that
it
never
comes
to
that
point.
Lord.
We
just
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
represent
beaufort
county
and
we
pray.
The
decisions
that
we
make
up
here.
Whether
we
agree
or
disagree
are
always
on
the
best
interests
of
the
county
and
the
people
and
your
name.
We
pray,
amen,
amen.
A
But
notice
of
this
meeting
has
been
published,
posted
and
distributed
in
compliance
with
the
south
carolina
freedom
of
information
act.
I
would
ask
a
member
of
county
council
to
amend
the
agenda
tonight
to
move
item
eight
and
seven
we're
going
to
flip
those,
so
eight
will
become
seven
and
seven
will
become
eight.
So
may
I
have
that
motion.
A
A
A
G
A
F
F
F
A
F
L
F
O
F
F
At
times,
well,
we
have
two
landings
that
we
want
to
acquire
the
staff
studied
alternatives
and
there
were
four
relative
to
hilton
head
and
the
hilton
head.
One
makes
a
lot
of
makes
a
lot
of
sense
because
it
includes
not
only
a
landing
but
parking
and
parking
is
the
cree,
the
ferry
and
the
ferry
is
the
key
to
the
fusky
relative
to
on
the
frusky.
There
were
four
that
were
looked
at,
the
staff
recommended
one,
which
is
the
one
that
we're
looking
at,
and
there
may
be
a
little
bit
of
misunderstanding
here.
F
F
The
staff
should
meet
with
the
melrose
folks
and
see
if
they
can
come
up
with
a
memo
of
understanding
that
would
be
satisfactory
to
both
groups,
but
I
am
concerned,
if
all
we
do
is
postpone
it
to
august
and
then
there's
a
closing
that
was
pending
doesn't
happen.
So
that's
that's
my
my
thought
of
what
we
should
do.
I
I
know
that
they
put
in
an
extra
60
days
of
closing
before
we
even
move
forward
and
that
sort
of
did
open
up
the
opportunity
for
us
to
explore
it,
but
at
the
same
time
this
is
a
big
opportunity
for
beaufort
county
for
this
property
to
close
or
not
close,
this
would
only
move
forward
to,
I
believe,
the
second
reading,
so
it's
the
second
reading
going
into
the
third
reading
so
still
give
us
another
opportunity
to
postpone
it
on
third
reading.
I've
said
the
same
statement
before
and
other
things
that
we've
discussed.
I
We
decided
to
vote
on
it
today
have
the
open
dialogue
and
the
biggest
thing
is
too.
It
seems
like
we
have
quite
a
few
people
here
that
came
out
to
hear
the
discussion
on
melrose
place.
I
do
think
that
that
time
after
they
put
in
deserves
our
at
least
dialogue
openly
in
front
of
all
them
for
taking
that
effort
as
well.
A
Yes
and
mr
greenway
will
have
some
comments
when
he
does
his
presentation,
his
administrator
presentation,
but
trust
me,
you
know
the
bottom
line
is
both
groups
want
to
do
the
same
thing.
It's
how
we
approach
it
and
that's.
Why
we're
seeking
a
postponement
at
this
time,
because
we
may
be
able
to
approach
it
differently
without
you
know
divulging
anything.
A
A
G
C
B
B
S
I
I
A
Yes,
by
my
count,
it's
nine
yes,
two!
No!
Yes,
sir
okay,
so
the
agenda
has
been
amended
to
remove
item
number
17.
So
now
we
need
a
motion
and
second
for
the
changes
that
have
been
made
into
the
agenda,
flipping
seven
and
eight
and
removing
removing
seventeen.
A
motion,
please
soul,
moves!
Mr
chairman,
mr
mckellen
makes
the
motion.
Second,
mr
ragnan
makes
the
second
duly
motioned
in
second
or
the
amended
agenda.
A
A
N
Chairman
good
evening
to
you
and
councils
and
everyone
who's
in
attendance
here
in
chambers
and
online.
The
first
thing
I
want
to
highlight
for
you
tonight
is
the
fusky
island
ferry.
I
will
be
going
over
to
defusky
island
tomorrow
for
a
meeting
at
3
30
with
the
daufuskie
island
council.
I
will
give
an
update
to
everyone
there
tomorrow
on
our
plans
to
proceed
with
the
purchase
of
the
mel's
melrose
landing.
N
While
we
made
the
decision
that
we
may
what
we're
planning
to
do
with
the
property
that
does
not
preclude
us
from
exploring
other
options
or
other
opportunities
as
well,
but
we
have
thoroughly
done
this
over
the
last
year
year
and
a
half
and
we
do
not
have
many
options
to
you
for
you
all
at
this
point.
This
is
the
most
efficient
option
for
providing
ferry
service
to
the
island.
N
We
not
only
have
to
take
into
account
ferry
service,
but
we
have
taken
account
ems
operations
over
there
and
getting
people
in
a
medical
emergency
off
that
island.
So
we
feel
like
this
is
a
good
situation,
but
we
will
continue
to
explore
the
options
and
have
discussions
with
melrose
landing
as
long
as
those
discussions
happen
in
good
faith,
with
a
desire
to
cooperate
on
both
sides
of
the
equation.
N
I
just
want
to
make
that
clear
on
the
record
this
evening
that
I
expect
a
cooperative,
productive
discussion
moving
forward
on
anything
that
we
do
over
there.
We
are
under
a
time
crunch,
to
provide
a
plan
for
providing
ferry
service
to
the
fuzzy
island.
Your
only
other
option,
as
I
see
it,
and
I
don't
think
it's
a
very
good
option.
N
That
committee
meets
for
the
first
time
tomorrow
afternoon
at
four
o'clock.
The
purpose
of
that
committee
is,
and
it's
made
up
of
people
that
live
in
that
community,
where
these
properties
are
located,
would
be
to
help
us
craft
a
recommendation
to
come
back
to
council
at
a
later
date
on
what
is
the
best
thing
to
do
with
the
property
on
any
redevelopment
or
resell
of
those
parcels
in
the
future
and
is
kirk
online.
S
D
H
N
Many
of
you
are
probably
familiar
with
kyle.
He
plays
an
important
role
here
for
us.
He
is
the
director
of
risk
management
and
safety
he's
been
with
us
five
and
a
half
years.
He
is
responsible,
of
course,
for
the
county's
risk
and
safety
program
that
includes
being
in
charge
of
the
county's
property
and
casual
insurance.
N
Kyle
doesn't
do
the
training,
but
I've
had
the
pleasure
numerous
times
to
sit
in
on
our
driver
safety
training
and
is
rather
entertaining
as,
as
you
know,
as
as
much
as
you
can
make
driver
safety
training
entertaining
so
he
he
does
a
good
job.
Finding
the
right
people
to
bring
in
with
those
training
programs-
and
I'm
told
here,
and
I'm
not
sure
that.
N
R
Well,
thank
you
eric.
I
appreciate
it
and
I
mean
just
I'm
humbled.
You
know
there's
a
lot
of
great
people
to
work
with
in
this
county
from
the
top
to
the
bottom.
I
work
with
all
the
departments
on
all
kinds
of
different
issues
and
everybody's
willing
to
work
with
me
and
it's
just
it's
a
really
good
place
to
work.
So
I
really
appreciate
it
turn
right
around
here.
Miss
liz
is
gonna,
get
a
picture
for
us
and.
N
I
you
know
storm
water,
stuff,
disaster
recovery,
all
of
those
things
neil's
very
organized.
He
always
comes
to
my
meetings
with
his
own
agenda,
things
that
he
needs
to
talk
to
me
about
and
go
over
with
me.
So
he's
he's
a
star
employee-
and
I,
I
think
the
world
of
him
and
something
unique
about
neil,
as
you
all
might
guess,
as
most
civil
engineers
do
as
a
small
child,
and
you
grew
up
with
legos
and
building
sets,
which
eventually
inspired
him
to
be
a
civil
engineer.
S
N
J
J
J
U
J
Has
to
be
out
there
prodding
all
your
employees
write
your
policy
write
down
what
you
do
every
day.
We
don't
we're,
not
saying
you
don't
do
it
right,
but
you
got
to
write
it
down
and
that's
really
important
that
you
write
down
what
you
do,
because
the
next
person
that
comes
in
for
the
job
after
you
leave
or
retire
needs
to
know
what
they're
doing
this
agency
and
and
the
county
are.
You
know
you
know
they're.
J
A
A
D
The
proclamation
reads,
whereas
african
began
arriving
on
the
sea
islands
in
the
1500s
and
whereas
the
population
of
all
of
these
africans
increased
as
cattle
enslavement,
grew,
cattle
enslavement
grew
in
the
1600s
and
whereas
these
africans
began
to
engage
with
and
in
some
instance,
created
families
with
indigenous
americans
in
the
region.
And
whereas
the
descendants
of
this
group
are
called
gullah
gucci.
And
whereas
this.
D
T
And
look
your
paul
speak
better
girl
than
her
okay
good
evening.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
one
more
again,
beaver
county
council
and
for
all
100
children
what
they
are
in
beaufort
county.
They
left
off
the
centennial
park
that
I
native
to,
I
think,
but
to
say
the
roots
from
austria
that
marlon
and
thing
like
that.
I'm
glad
for
the
year,
one
more
again
on
behalf
of
my
ancestors
and
for.
T
I
can
speak
your
language
as
well
all
of
y'all
who
new
to
the
town
so
in
the
county.
So
I
want
to
first
say
thank
you
all
for
this
again
and
this
year
is
the
first
time
that
we
are
beginning
and
ending
gullah
geechee
nation
appreciation
week
in
this
county.
We
are
actually
launching
at
the
saint
helena
park.
As
we
finally
see
wesley
felix,
we
will
be
launching
there
on
july
30th
at
noon
with
gulligici
family
day.
It's
open
to
everyone.
T
You
can
come
out
enjoy
yourselves
and
we
will
conclude
at
the
bluffton
oyster
factory
park
on
august.
The
6th.
Both
events
will
begin
at
noon,
and
so
we
want
folks
to
come
out,
enjoy
themselves
and
especially
yetim
over
who
we
be
in
thing
like
a
daddy
and
now
for
some
good
food.
Anything
like
that
and
music
and
all
that
kind
of
thing.
T
There
is
a
family
burial
area
that
I
am
on
the
internet,
that
is,
they
went
viral
there's
over
half
a
million
people
that
saw
it
around
the
world
about
the
desecration
of
one
of
my
family
burial
areas.
That
is
not
the
first
one
of
my
family
burial
areas.
Unfortunately,
in
this
county
to
have
that
issue,
I
had
to
also
fight
for
three
years
in
court
against
someone
who
did
that
on
saint
helen
island,
now
we're
seeing
people
on
hilton
head
having
to
deal
with
this.
T
I
do
it
every
week,
but
this
county
celebrates
with
us
who
are
gullah
geechees
every
year.
So
please
put
that
on
the
top
of
your
agenda,
give
eric
greenway's
office
even
more
work
than
I
give
him
to
do.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we
put
conservation
easements
around
these
critical
areas
and
we
have
an
open
and
critical
lands
board
here
for
these
types
of
things.
We
need
to
consider
that
not
just
scenic
byways,
because
someone
thinks
that
our
families
being
buried
there
is
a
byway.
It's
not.
T
T
Just
ahead
of
the
presentation
that's
coming
to
again:
honor
ancestors,
I
am
someone
who
fought
for
the
reconstruction
era,
national
monument,
which
is
now
our
national
historic
park,
and
I
wholeheartedly
support
the
effort
that
you're
going
to
hear
about
tonight
to
create
a
park
around
yet
another
one
of
our
historic
trees.
Here
in
beaufort
county,
we
have
the
emancipation
oak,
that's
already
a
part
of
this
national
historic
park,
so
there's
so
much
of
legacy
and
history
in
this
county.
T
This
is
a
critical
thing,
so
I'm
happy
and
I'm
pleased
that
god
had
it
that
tonight
is
the
night
that
all
these
folks
filled
up
this
place.
I
thought
they
came
for
me.
I
was
a
little
upset
a
little
bit
a
kid.
It
turns
out.
I
felt
some
kind
of
way,
but
but
was
happy
that
they
thought
I
was
here
to
be
with
them,
and
I
am
but
no
one
told
me
in
advance
this
was
happening.
T
So
I
just
wanted
to
add
that
while
I
have
the
mic
to
just
say
that
I
hope
this
county
does
back
this
park,
because
it's
important
and
it's
important
for
people
to
come
here,
like
they
always
do
to
beautiful
beaufort
by
the
sea
and
yeti
more
about
who
we
be
tanky.
Tanky
and
honor
of
my
ancestors,
who
beat
bella
gichi.
W
In
fact,
I
worked
with
pat
conroy
on
various
aspects
of
his
writing
career
from
the
time
he
actually
wrote
the
great
santini
on
during
the
last
15
years
of
pat's
life.
I
was
his
literary
agent,
and
so
I
was
deeply
involved
with
pat
conroy
as
the
storyteller
and,
as
you
all
know,
he
was
exceptionally
eloquent
in
speaking
about
this
region
and
about
the
low
country
and
the
people
of
beaufort
county
when
pat
died,
it
seemed
impossible
for
us
to
imagine
what
this
would
be
like.
W
We
began
to
think
of
the
best
way
to
honor
him,
and
that
was
through
an
interactive
educational
museum
and
a
literary
center.
I
had
served
on
the
national
endowment
for
the
humanities
board
and
evaluated
literary
centers
over
the
years
and
was
incredibly
oppressed
with
how
much
difference
a
community
can
be
served
with
a
really
good
literary
center
that
celebrates
the
writing.
W
Reading
and
the
literary
arts
when
we
decided
to
open
up
on
charles
street
within
it
was
2017
in
january
that
the
national
library
association
decided
to
make
the
pat
conroy
literary
center,
a
national
literary
landmark.
That
was
an
exceptionally
quick
turnaround.
They
knew
that
we
existed
and
the
national
library
association
made
us
a
landmark.
W
We
actually
have
the
plaque
to
prove
it.
The
same
year
we
hired
jonathan
hoped
as
our
tireless
executive
director
and
also
the
same
year,
the
an
organization
called
the
national
writers,
museums
had
pat
conroy
literary
center
joined,
the
homes
of
mark
twain
and
william
faulkner
and
many
other
great
american
writers.
As
another
literary
landmark.
W
W
We
are
suggesting
that
this
ancient
live
oak
tree
that
sits
near
bladen
and
king
street
become
a
part
of
a
passive
pocket
park.
We
have
already
had
gained
support
of
at
least
a
dozen
organizations.
Both
I
can
read
you
the
list,
but
it's
besides
the
pat
conroy
literary
center,
the
beaufort
county,
historical
society.
W
We
appeared
before
the
city
of
buford
trees
and
parks
commission
and
had
unanimous
support,
reverend
kenneth
hodges,
who
speak
former
state
legislator
and
pastor
of
tabernacle
church
supporter,
dr
elijah,
washington,
the
grand
army
hall
of
the
republic,
the
beaufort
council,
council
of
garden
clubs,
the
master
gardeners
of
beaufort,
the
beaufort
planning
groups,
architect,
landscape,
art,
architect,
brad
hill
bartlett
tree
experts
has
already
stepped
up
and
said
that
they
will
adopt
this
tree
and
make
sure
that
it's
healthy.
The
beaufort
is
the
historic
beaufort
foundation
and
the
beaufort
history
museum.
W
W
Is
that
stories
create
that
shared
stories
create
bonding
for
families,
for
communities
for
nations
and
by
sharing
this
story
of
the
connecticut
volunteer,
infantry
and
you'll
hear
larry
talk
about
this
that
this
great
storytelling
machine,
the
pat
conway
center,
will
serve
this
community
by
telling
the
story
of
the
tree
by
our
docents
will
be
telling
the
visitors
the
stories.
If
we
have
the
pocket
park
with
benches,
people
will
sit
there.
They'll
relax
they'll
get
a
chance
to
understand
the
important
place
that
beaufort
plays
in
the
nation's
history.
W
This
was
a
year
in
which
we
were
closed
for
renovation.
This
was
a
difficult
year,
but
we
are
growing
fast.
The
pat
connery
literary
center
has
a
national
reputation.
An
international
one
is
on
the
horizon
and
we
want
to
be
able
to
share
the
stories
that
made
pat
conroy
love
this
town,
and
I
think
that
these
stories
will
rise
to
the
surface
and
every
time
one
of
them
comes
up,
as
this
tree
has
presented
itself
in
our
front
yard.
W
We'll
speak
up
for
that
story
and
that
story
will
be
told,
and
I
appreciate
you
very
much
having
you
listen
to
someone
talk
about
a
tree
because
there's
so
many
beautiful
trees
in
buford.
If
you
listen
to
everyone
talk
about
a
beautiful
tree,
you
would
never
get
any
other
business
done.
So
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
historian
larry
rowland.
X
X
L
F
X
That's
not,
but
that's
that's
the
tree.
That's
still
there
that
was
the
parade
ground
and
that
whole
area
of
bladen
street,
where
that
tree
is
located
in
the
county,
now
owns
the
parking
lot.
It
was
a
bivouac
area
for
union
troops
during
the
occupation,
a
lot
of
them
first
among
the
first
united
states,
colored
troops
to
be
recruited
into
the
u.s
army.
X
In
fact,
it
was
on
these
sea
islands
that
the
former
slaves
were
among
the
first
of
the
former
slaves
to
be
recruited
into
the
union
army
for
to
fight
for
their
own
freedom,
and
this
is
one
of
the
units.
This
happens
to
be
the
29th
connecticut,
but
all
those
african-american
units
that
biv
whacked
in
that
area
had
a
parade
ground
under
that
tree.
X
The
american
battleground
trust
calls
these
witness
trees,
in
other
words,
the
oldest
living
things
that
witnessed
history
and
the
american
battleground
trust,
has
preserved
trees
like
this
that
gettysburg
and
antietam,
and
many
places
in
america
where
the
tree
is
the
last
living
thing
to
witness
the
piece
of
history
beaufort.
This
is
a
very
important
part
of
beaufort's
history,
and
that
tree
is
the
witness
tree
for
that
history.
X
What
we
would
like
to
do
is
just
preserve
the
drip
line
of
that
tree,
no
more
and
preserve
the
tree
for
just
tell
the
story:
future
generation,
the
beaufort
county,
historical
society,
of
which
I
am
currently
the
president-
puts
up
the
official
state
historical
markers,
this
archives
markers.
We
have
approved
one
for
that
to
tell
the
story
that
I'm
telling
you
now
so
we
would
like
for
the
county
to
help
us
preserve
that
dream.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
Okay,.
A
Y
Z
Y
Y
That's
exactly
what
they
did
this
graph
above.
You
shows
the
results
of
that
pilot
program.
I
sent
you
that
march
the
30th
of
this
year,
as
you
can
tell
what
was
in
2017
an
overwhelming
number
of
dismissals
turned
into
an
overwhelming
number
of
convictions,
and
it
was
done
by
those
people
back
there
and
about
a
half
a
dozen
other
ones,
and
I
brought
them
here
tonight
because
I
wanted
to
thank
them.
Y
I
wanted
to
thank
them
publicly
and
I
wanted
to
show
them
the
respect
that
I
think
they
deserve,
because,
quite
frankly,
I
saw
the
work
they
put
in.
I
saw
them
come
in
early
and
I
saw
them
stay
late.
I
saw
them
on
saturdays
and
sundays
and
not
once
not
once
did
they
complain.
That's
not
true
actually
did
complain.
Y
Y
They
had
a
county
council
member
who
said
this
program
that
is
showing
over
your
head
right
now
was
a
failure
and
it
was
a
failure
because
there
were
some
cases
still
pending.
There
was
a
backlog,
never
mind
the
one
year
that
the
court
was
shut
down
because
of
covid,
never
mind
the
fact
that
the
solicitors
don't
run
the
docket
in
masters.
Court
judges
do
and
that
councilman
knew
that,
because
he
used
to
be
the
chief
magistrate.
Y
In
fact,
he
was
the
chief
magistrate
over
the
year
of
2017,
when
two
out
of
three
defendants
charged
with
duis,
walked
out
the
back
door.
I'm
here
tonight
to
say
thank
you
to
these
people.
I'm
not
here
to
argue
the
points,
I'm
not
here
to
ask
you
for
anything,
I'm
standing
here
thanking
them
because
they
should
be
thanked
and
it's
not
just
for
me.
Y
Y
A
U
I'll
be
prom
council
members,
mr
chairman,
I
just
wanted
to
I'm
here
to
speak
about
the
husky
tonight.
I
know
it's
been
moved,
but
I
came
six
hours
so
I'd
like
since
you're
going
to
have
a
little
bit
of
time
in
between
all
I
want
to
do
is
season
you
with
some
thoughts
coming
from
the
homeowners,
so
my
name
is
bill.
Werkheiser,
I'm
the
president
of
the
melrose
cottage
owners
association,
which
is
42
homes,
and
I
was
asked
by
our
homeowners
and
our
board
to
come
in
and
talk
to
you
guys
tonight.
U
So
if
you
want
to,
I
always
know
I
never
come
around
often,
but
when
I
do
it's
because
there's
been
an
impact
that
is
literally
as
close
as
you
can
see
those
buildings
over
there.
We
pass
this
around
you
guys.
This
is
the
bankrupt
resort
that
they've
been
living
around
since
2009.,
so
I
we're
impacted
more
than
anybody
we're
actually
in
the
resort,
and
so
that's
what
I'm
here
to
talk
to
you
about.
So
I'm
asking
on
behalf
of
the
42
property
owners
in
the
mcoa
that
should
not
proceed
with
the
condemnation
process.
U
You've
delayed
it.
I
plead
with
you
to
please
try
to
work
something
out
because
any
solution
that
you
you
know
that
that
goes
through
with
this
will
impact
all
of
us,
so
you're
going
to
say,
okay,
well,
why
why?
Why
are
these
guys
impacted?
If
this
were
done
in
a
public
forum,
you
would
have
seen
hundreds
of
people
and
I'm
not
I'm
not
kidding.
You've
got
40
here,
the
melrose
association's
fully
behind
it.
U
I've
talked
to
their
president,
their
vice
president
and
we've
been
working
together
actually
with
a
developer
since
he
he
he
came
into
the
picture.
He's
been
present.
We've
been
talking,
we're
planning
we're
working
together,
it's
been
very
positive.
Do
I
have
some
concerns
he's
a
developer
right,
so
I
mean,
of
course
I
have
some
concerns,
but
he's
done
everything
that
he
said
so
far.
So
let
me
continue
so
so
we
didn't
have
a
chance
to
talk,
but
I
think
you
know
pandora's
box
is
kind
of
open
now.
U
I
think
a
lot
of
people
are
going
to
want
to
talk
about
this,
so
the
resort's
been
effectively
closed.
Since
2009
the
community
suffered
greatly
property
values
have
been
hard
hit.
Things
were
difficult:
everybody
passes
an
abandoned
resort
and
abandoned
cottages.
Next
to
even
my
homes,
they've
been
abandoned
since
2009.,
empty
windows,
busted
out
they've,
gotten
them
boarded
up.
They've
started
to
make
some
improvements,
so
some
positive
things
happen:
people
that
wanted
to
sell
their
homes
they're
on
the
market
so
long
that
they
they
had
to
discount
them
sixty
percent
to
sell
them.
U
U
Broke
of
the
potential
buyer,
the
arrival
of
the
team
there
durst
that
speculation
period,
the
property
values,
have
gone
up,
60
percent
and
that
there's
not
a
home
for
sale.
There's
not
a
lot
for
sale,
there's
nothing
for
sale,
so
you
know.
Finally,
I
like
to
you
know
basically
just
say:
removing
the
dock
is
removing
an
opportunity
for
a
developer
to
come
in.
Nobody's
going
to
come
in
freight
has
to
come
across
employees.
So
I'm
hoping
there's
some
way
to
work
this
out.
That
can.
Z
Z
This
functional
dock
onto
fusky
is
imperative
for
everybody.
That's
involved
the
public
to
come
in
and
go
out
to
get
materials
in
and
out.
It
is
literally
the
financial
and
operational
linchpin
of
our
community,
and
this
this
issue
has
to
be
resolved.
It's
also
a
key
asset.
If
you're
buying
a
purchasing
property
and
you're,
you
want
to
sell
it,
you've
got
assets
and
liabilities,
and
goodness
knows,
we've
got
plenty
of
liabilities
on
that
island.
Z
J
Z
And
I
think
that's
important
for
everybody.
The
developer
has
demonstrated
good
will,
which
often
in
these
proceedings
don't
come
to
light.
But
I'd
like
to
highlight
some
of
these
that
they
have
worked
to
develop
to
assist
local
contractors
in
obtaining
obtaining
approvals
and
licenses
that
are
necessary.
Z
AA
Hey
good
evening,
council
and
chairman
I'm
grant
mcclure,
I'm
here
representing
the
coastal
conservation
league.
I
started
as
the
south
coast
project
manager
back
in
may,
I'm
going
to
be
talking
tonight
about
the
the
green
space
half
penny.
I'm
here
to
to
recommend
the
council
consider
adopting
a
half
penny
for
green
space.
AA
AA
The
green
space
half
penny
is
an
opportunity
to
expand
upon
that
success
and
scale
it
in
a
way,
that's
more
appropriate
to
balance
out
regional
growth
pressures
happening
for
green
space
does
not
favor
one
municipality
or
region
over
another,
for
example,
working
with
our
land
trust
partners,
we've
identified
several
tracks
of
land
in
northern
beaufort
county,
as
well
as
southern
beaufort
county
and
throughout
the
region.
That
would
be
appropriate
for
this
program.
AA
AA
Q
I'm
not
as
tall
as
grant.
I
don't
have
to
worry
about
the
microphone
good
evening.
Chairman
members
of
council,
I
sat
here
a
little
bit
earlier.
Listening
to
tom
davis
and
shannon
erickson,
I
was
very
jealous
wishing
that
wishing
that
they
were
speaking
out
on
behalf
of
ladies
island,
the
ladies
island
plan,
they
were
very
articulate.
I
think
I
think
the
proposal
is
an
interesting
one,
but
I
fear
that
we
are.
We
risk
falling
falling
prey
to
policy
adhd.
Q
The
lag
on
these
traffic
improvements
is
having
a
real
impact
on
ladies
island
we're
seeing
parcels
of
developed
out
from
underneath
us
before
these
road
projects
are
completed,
and
we
we
have
less
less
of
an
opportunity
to
guide
and
manage
the
development
is
taking
taking
place
because
we
have
to
first
decide
where
the
road's
going
a
couple
of
significant
impacts.
If
we
have
to
choose
between
these
two
proposals,
number
one,
the
obvious
one
is
that
ladies
island
has
to
be
put
on
the
waiting
list.
V
V
I
really
think
that
we
need
to
consider
strongly
the
transportation
referendum,
I'm
not
against
green
space
at
all
members
of
the
open
land,
trust
and
really
believe
in
all
those
things
too,
but
our
transportation
is
at
critical
mass
and
we
really
do
need
to
do
something
about
it.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
B
AB
AB
Please
know
that
we
are
moving
forward
with
continued
conversation,
and
my
hope
is
that
you'll
listen
to
the
developer,
who
has
a
vision
for
melrose
to
bring
enhancements
opportunity
for
not
just
melrose
but
for
the
entire
island
and
for
beautiful
county,
and
I
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
continue
working
together.
Thank.
A
A
A
A
Item
number
13
is
a
public
hearing
and
approval
of
a
resolution
authorizing
the
county
administrator
to
execute
any
and
all
documents
necessary
to
accept
convenience
of
the
real
property
identified,
as
tms
number
are
two
hundred
fourteen
triple
zero
zero
one,
three
nine
four
zeros
white
hall.
May
I
have
such
a
motion.
Some
movements,
jim
mr
glover,
makes
the
motion
a
second
please.
A
S
A
You're
so
happy
about
this
right
very
excited.
I
see
that
there
are
no
objections.
I've
closed
the
public
hearing
there
are
no
objections
and
item
number
13
will
be
approved.
Item
number
14
is
the
approval
of
a
resolution
to
correct
a
scrivener's
error
in
a
in
an
existing
ordinance.
Those
of
you
in
the
audience
who
don't
know
what
an
ex
a
scribner
area
is
scrivener's
error
is
is
oops.
We
made
a
mistake
and
now
we're
going
to
correct
that
mistake.
So
may
I
have
a
motion
for
the
approval
of
such
a
resolution.
A
E
A
Mr
herveshon
makes
the
second
duly
motioned
and
seconded
the
purpose
of
our
discussion.
Now
is
not
what
will
be
the
essence
of
moving
forward.
We've
heard
a
lot
of
information
that
we
need
to
digest.
The
purpose
of
this
is
so
that
we
can
get
the
appropriate
information.
We
need
to
have
a
public
hearing
and
third
reading
on
this,
so
any
discussion
will
be
around
what
you've
heard,
what
you
think
we
should
do
before
we
take
a
vote.
So,
mr
cunningham,
you
made
the
motion
any.
I
I
Instead
of
adding
roads
and
adding
to
other
areas,
I
know
a
lot
of
people
say
well,
we
need
to
fix
the
roads
100
agree,
but
until
we
can
stop
the
growth,
we're
just
chasing
the
tail
over
and
over
and
over
again
and
asking
for
more
money
and
more
money
to
fix
the
roads
build
new
roads.
This
is
an
actual
tool
and
a
plan
to
slow
down
the
growth
buy
up
some
of
the
houses
that
could
be
built
in
the
future
to
lower
that
density.
I
I
I
do
think
the
negotiation
should
be
open
for
how
much
and
how
long
I'm
more
inclined
to
go
for
a
four
year
at
a
full
penny
instead
of
10
years
out
of
half
a
penny
just
because
that
four
years
will
give
us
the
trust
in
the
public
to
say:
hey,
look.
We
we
tried
this
program.
This
is
what
we
have
to
show
for
in
this
short
period
of
time.
If
we
go
for
the
full
penny
for
those
four
years
we
come
up.
E
E
I
think
is
a
good
thing
that
leads
to
public
safety,
which
I
think
is
a
good
thing.
We've
had
experience
with
the
rural
critical
lands
program
successfully,
so
I
think
that
I
think
this
is
a
good
program.
I
think
it's
a
good
tool
and
I
think
that
beaufort
county
would
be
well
advised
to
put
this
in
place
in
our
toolbox.
G
G
We
had
senator
davis
here
who
assured
us
that
we
would
be
the
ones
that
set
the
committee
up,
that
we
would
be
the
ones
that
make
the
final
decision.
So
again,
it'll
still
be
in
our
hands.
To
do
that,
I
think
it
is
a
a
tax
reduction,
because
again,
then
we
could
not
have
to
grow
in
critical
lands,
which
again
is
a
tax
that
we
all
pay
currently
and
actually,
I
think
it's
going
to
help
northern
beaufort
county
more
than
it
helps
bluffton
and
hilton
head.
G
M
Ms
howard,
mr
chairman,
I've
already
expressed
many
of
my
concerns
about
this.
I
will
not
vote
for
this
at
this
time,
because
I
feel
there's
too
many
questions
and
I
don't
think
we
have
all
the
ingredients
for
our
omelette
that
we
know
for
sure
to
go
back
to
that
simple
analogy
which
is.
This
is
not
simple
by
any
means,
but
I
will
not
vote
for
this
at
this
time
until
we
get
more
answers
on
how
we're
going
to
implement
it.
M
I
think
our
role
in
critical
lands
program-
I
know
for
a
fact,
has
been
nationally
recognized
by
many
organizations.
We
have
that
tool.
We
have
other
tools,
such
as
our
zoning,
in
our
county
and
in
our
municipalities,
and
we
also
have
an
outstanding
storm
water
program
where
we
can
work
with
resiliency.
M
I'm
just
not
sure
this
is
the
right
time
for
this.
The
transportation
tax
provides
us
with
the
green
belt
and
it
has
proven
successful
in
charleston,
and
I
think
we
should.
We
should
do
that
and
then,
in
two
years,
when
all
the
things
are
worked
out
with
this
particular
legislation,
maybe
we
can
pass
it.
Then,
mr
glover.
D
But
we
have
to
have
infrastructure
and
jared
came
before
us
and
towards
the
dream
and
to
travel,
the
road
less
or
to
a
little
less
travel
and-
and
I
think
we
need
to
be
there
to
make
sure
that
we're
going
on
the
right
path.
I
don't
want
to
leave
infrastructure
out.
So
that's
where
I
am
it's
time
to
go.
I
will
vote
based
on
my
conscience
at
that
moment,
but
right
now
I
got
to
support
both
and
I'm
hoping
that
we
do
support
both.
D
A
F
F
So
even
the
referendum
we've
been
talking
about
is
only
half
of
what
we
need
so,
and
I
said
a
couple
weeks
ago
when
this
first
came
up
and
I
understand
the
problem
putting
both
on
the
same
one,
but
it's
a
matter
how
we
get
there,
but
I
really
believe
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
need
the
full
penny
on
the
transportation.
We
need
the
full
penny
on
the
on
on
the
green
space.
F
F
F
So
to
me,
I
think
we're
at
a
point
where
we
need
to
size
that
and
the
actual
referendum
has
to
go
to
columbia
when
sometime
in
august,
yes
august,
15th
august
15th,
and
we
have
a
council
meeting
august
8th
august
8th.
So
you
know,
I
think
this
is
important
enough.
We
may
need
to
schedule
one
or
two
more
council
meetings
to
get
through
this,
but
clearly
I
think
we
got
to
decide
before
we
pass
anything
at
second
reading.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
This
is,
this
is
a
threading,
the
needle,
in
my
mind,
I've
given
it
a
tremendous
amount
of
thought.
I
really
appreciate
the
efforts
that
our
legislative
delegation,
particularly
senator
davis,
had
put
into
this
there's
no
question
in
my
mind.
We
need
infrastructure,
but
dealing
with
just
infrastructure,
in
my
mind,
is
dealing
with
the
symptom
rather
than
the
problem
problem
is
continued
growth,
accelerated
growth,
rapid
growth,
overgrowth
and
and
the
solution
of
course,
or
the
ostensible
solution,
is
to
keep
building
more
roads,
but
the
problem
is,
it
becomes
a
self-perpetuating
problem.
C
C
There
are
other
potential
solutions
that
are
a
little
more
draconian,
such
as
down
zoning
and
temporary
moratoriums
circumstances,
and
I
wouldn't
want
to
ever
give
up
any
of
those
things,
but
I
particularly,
I
particularly
all
agree
on
on
the
preservation
part.
I
mean
a
lot
said
tonight
about
how
effective
a
rural
critical
lands
program
is.
It's
a
tremendous
amount
of
support,
so
one
of
the
questions
that
I'm
asking
myself
is
if
it's.
If
this
is
in
either
or
situation
where
you
put
in
infrastructure
or
do
we
put
in
green
space?
C
Of
course
the
infrastructure
is
a
hybrid
it
does
both.
The
the
space,
of
course,
is
separate
would
be
a
separate,
separate
referendum.
I
think
this
is
just
an
opinion.
I
think-
and
you
heard
some
of
the
presidents.
These
are
my
residents
on
ladies
island
and
I'd
speak
about
the
fact
that
we
had
a
referendum
in
2018
for
infrastructure
and
and
only
one
of
nine
of
those
project
is
built
out,
which
is
true.
There
are
reasons
for
that.
It
wasn't
because
we
ignored
it.
It
wasn't
because
we
weren't
concerned
about
it.
C
It's
because
you
build
anything
of
any
consequence
today
in
beaufort,
county
or
anywhere
else
in
these
great
united
states
of
america.
It
takes
time
to
get
the
permitting
to
do
the
engineering
and
to
deal
with
the
folks
in
the
in
the
area.
There's
always
going
to
be
people
who
don't
like
whatever
you
do,
there's
going
to
be
a
group
of
people
who
are
opposed
to
it
and
they're
going
to
be
vocal
about
it.
So
you
have
to
deal
with
that.
So
all
of
the
projects
in
the
2018
referendum,
in
my
district,
for
example,
are
underways.
C
Some
are
well
underway,
but
that
doesn't
satisfy
the
constituents
because
they
want
to
see
the
finished
product.
Well,
I
wish
it
were
that
simple.
It's
not,
but
but
my
point
is
that
the
mere
fact
that
we
have
a
referendum
in
2018,
which
we
haven't
completed
with
that
quotation
marks,
because
it's
factually
true
but
structurally
that's
just
the
way
it
works.
It
takes
a
long
time
to
get
these
projects
done,
are
going
to
be
reluctant
to
vote
for
another
transportation
referendum.
C
C
I
do
think
that
the
chances
of
the
chances
of
getting
a
green
belt
referendum
pass
are
significantly
higher
every
year
that
ticks
by
every
year
that
ticks
by
we're,
leaving
60
70
000
million
dollars
on
the
table
that
we
desperately
need
for
transportation.
We
desperately
need
it
for
preservation,
so
I
think,
a
year
another
year
shouldn't
go
by
without
us,
asking
our
voters
to
consider
giving
us
that
money
that
60
or
70
million,
of
which
they
only
pay
half.
So
we
can
either
do
green
builder
or
or
road
construction.
C
You
heard
senator
davis
very
candid
tonight
and
and
talking
about
the
fact
that
there
is
no
guarantee-
and
I
had
this
conversation
with
him
as
recently
as
yesterday
the
day
before
yesterday.
There
is
no
reason
nobody
can
guarantee
that
we're
going
to
get
any
money
for
road
projects.
Our
legislative
delegation
is
going
to
work
hard
for
that.
There's
no
doubt
about
that.
The
southern,
the
northern
they're
working
hard
they've
already
seen
letters
to
the
secretary
of
transportation,
but
we
don't
know
it
is
not
known.
What
that
will
accomplish.
C
It
may
accomplish
a
little
may
accomplish
a
lot.
It
may
accomplish
nothing.
We
just
don't
know
so.
The
transportation
problem
is
not
going
to
go
away,
and
we
certainly
can't
sit
here
today
and
take
a
vote
under
the
assumption
that
all
those
transportation
matters
are
going
to
be
taken
care
of
with
somebody
else's
money,
because
we
don't
know
that
absolutely
don't
know
that.
So
my
here's
what
I've
come
around
to
I.
C
I
think
that
the
best
that's
best
for
everybody
is
to
go
ahead
and
do
a
green
belt
referendum
and
I'm
going
to
say
two
years
for
a
full
penny
and
here's
why,
at
the
end
of
two
years,
we're
going
to
have
a
pretty
good
idea
of
whether
we're
going
to
get
federal
money
for
the
road
projects
that
we
need.
We
have
a
pretty
good
right
now.
We
have
no
idea
two
years
from
now.
We
certainly
will.
I
heard
somebody
suggested
four
years:
there's
nothing
sacred
or
sacrosanct
about
two
years.
C
It's
just
a
thought
that
I
had,
but
but
that
will
that'll
give
us
140
120
million
dollars
immediately
for
green
belt.
So
after
two
years,
if
it
appears
to
us
whoever's
sitting
on
this
council
in
two
years
that
we're
not
going
to
get
any
federal
money,
because
it's
all
going
to
get
sucked
up
by
the
interstates
built
and
projected,
then
we
can
put
a
reference
transportation
referendum
on
then
with
some
greed
with
a
green
belt
component.
So
to
me,
that's
the
best
way
to
go.
C
If
we're
going
to
do
a
reference,
I
don't
think
a
half
a
penny
makes
no
sense,
because
I
don't
think
people
are
going
to
be
deterred,
whether
it's
a
half
a
penny
or
one
penny,
the
only
thing
going
to
a
half
a
penny
does.
Is
it
cuts
down
the
amount
of
money
that
we
can
use
for
green
space
or
or
traffic
mitigation?
C
So
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
listen
carefully
to
everybody,
but-
and
I
hope
somebody
will
agree
with
me-
maybe
they
won't
that
we
a
number
right
now.
I
think
it's
written
10
years
shorten
that
way
down
make
it
a
penny
for
green
green
belt.
Go
ahead
with
it
with
a
clear
understanding
that
either
we're
going
to
get
money
from
the
feds
for
these
roads
or
not.
C
If
we
don't
we're
going
to
immediately
put
out
a
referendum
for
for
road
projects
in
no
no
no
later,
I
would
think
that
2024
and
and
bond
it
immediately
and
get
on
with
it.
In
the
meantime
we
might
have
it.
We
might
get
a
little
money
to
do
some
preliminary
engineering
and
that
sort
of
thing
it's
a
very
complex
problem.
But
that's
my
take
on
it.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
mr
flawling.
L
S
Yeah,
I
I
appreciate
paul's
concern
for
trying
to
curb
and
control
the
growth
in
the
county,
particularly
in
some
of
your
country,
but
I
think
his
green
space
initiative
is
a
good
one,
but
as
with
the
transportation
referendum
as
well
as
the
space
referendum,
I
just
think
our
timing
is
not
is
not
right.
I
I
don't
think
this
is
time
to
do
it.
I've
said
that
on
the
transportation
referendum,
the
one
that
failed.
R
S
Said
that's
on
the
one
that
we
wanted
to
put
forth
and
you
know
I
say
the
same
thing
about
the
green
space
referendum
for
us
to
put
it
on
referendum
in
2022.
I
I
think
is
the
wrong
time
these
referendum.
In
my
opinion,
I
think
you
stand
a
better
chance
of
the
citizens,
passing
it
in
2024
rather
than
2022,
but
nevertheless
I'm
going
to
support
it.
I'm
going
to
vote
to
go
ahead
and
put
it
to
the
citizens
and
let
the
citizens
make
that
decision
for
us.
H
Mr
mckellen
yeah
thanks,
mr
chairman,
I
believe
mr
rodman
is
correct,
that
both
areas
need
attention,
transportation
and
preservation.
I
believe
that
our
delegation
is
going
to
deliver
those
federal
funds
and
that
we'll
be
able
to
use
that
money
for
the
transportation
infrastructure
and,
importantly,
with
no
tax
imposed
on
our
residents.
H
I've
noticed
over
the
past
few
years
that
whenever
we
have
a
question
that
we're
really
unsure
of,
we
tend
to
ask
each
other.
What
are
the
other
jurisdictions
doing
what's
happening
in
greenville
and
what's
happening
in
spartanburg,
what's
happening
in
charleston?
Well,
I
think
it's
about
time
that
those
jurisdictions
said
why
don't
we
check
and
see
what's
happening
in
beaufort
and
if
we're
able
to
pass
this
green
space,
we'll
be
setting
a
model
for
others
to
follow.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
A
A
It
is
a
taxpayer
win
twofold
number
one.
We
get
to
bond
the
money
immediately
and
use
the
sales
tax
to
pay
that
back,
including
the
current
debt
that
we
have,
which
will
reduce
the
taxpayer
funds
now
as
to
how
long
a
period
of
time
and
how
much
money
would
we
generate
I'm
on
board
with
brian
and
paul.
A
This
is
a
means
and
method
of
us
starting
the
process.
We
would
be
the
first
ones
the
legislation
must
be
done
in
even
years.
We
do
it
this
year
we
are
successful.
We
show
that
it
can
be
done.
We
know
from
what
rural
and
critical
lands
has
done
coming
before
us
to
buy
property.
How
long
it
takes.
We've
been
talking
about
properties
that
been
six
months
to
a
year
before
they
are
eventually
purchased
or
the
rights
are
purchased.
O
O
Also
going
to
if
you're
going
to
include
the
issuance
of
bonds,
then
you
must
identify
the
principal
amount
of
the
bonds
proposed
to
be
authorized
and
the
source
of
payments
for
those
bonds
and
excuse
me
if
other
sources
of
revenue
will
be
used
for
procurement
purposes.
That's
the
way.
I
I
read
it,
I'm
not
sure
senator
davis,
you
agree.
Those
are
the
issues
that
are
going
to
have
to
be
addressed.
O
I
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
brief
statements
for
some
of
the
things
we
heard
you
know
we're
still
debating
about
if
we're
going
to
move
forward
this
or
not
putting
both
on
a
rent,
but
the
referendum
sounds
like
a
horrible
idea
to
me
personally.
If
we
started
this
process
last
summer
for
transportation,
when
we
some
of
us
up
here
originally
brought
that
up,
I
could
see
how
that
we'd
have
enough
time
to
advocate
for
that
and
educate,
but
the
lost
sales
tax
that
we
decided
to
move
forward
instead
failed
by
over
70
some
percent.
I
That
was
for
a
reason,
so
I
do
still
think
the
green
space
is
the
way
we
need
to
go.
This
gives
us
the
opportunity
to
pull
down
from
the
state
that
doesn't
directly
hit
beaufort
county
residents
with
an
extra
tax
for
both
of
them,
with
that
said,
pulled
the
math
and
looked
at
the
stuff
that
senator
davis
gave
us
there's
35
million
for
10
years,
a
half
a
penny.
So
it's
an
estimate
of
35
million
a
year,
a
half
penny.
I
I
So
if
that's
the
case,
it
would
actually
end
at
four
years
in
27,
because
if
you're
saying
it
has
to
go
into
may
that
means
we
come
back
in
28.,
which
still
gives
us
the
opportunity
to
be
on
that
same
timeline,
but
maximize
our
profits
and
the
time
to
get
the
money
from
the
state.
So
I
will
make
that
motion
to
change
the
time
from
four
years,
from
ten
years
to
four
years,
from
a
half
penny
to
a
full
minute
penny
with
a
cap
at
300
million.
A
A
L
L
A
A
We
do
have
a
motion
and
a
second
on
the
floor
for
that.
So
it's
one
penny
four
years
to
raise
300
million
dollars
and
then
we
can
work
out
the
other
details
as
far
as
do
we
take
all
300
million
at
once.
If
we
do,
how
do
we
pay
for
those
bonds?
Is
it
going
to
be
through
the
sales
tax
and
if
the
sales
tax
doesn't
raise
300
million
dollars?
How
would
we
pay
for
the
remainder
that
is
not
raised?
I
think.
U
N
A
N
I
M
I
I
think
it
gives
us
enough
time
to
get
the
money
from
the
state
and
see
if
they're
actually
going
to
come
through.
I,
I
would
think
so
because
by
the
time
we
actually
put
this
in
the
place
we're
looking
into
next
spring,
so
that's
already
a
year
into
what
we
want
to
put
in
the
place
to
give
them
time
frame.
So
we
have
to
stick
with
the
with
the
new
ordinance
that
mr
davis
put
forward.
I
It
has
to
go
into
a
general
election,
so
chances
of
us
coming
back
in
2024
and
a
transportation
tax
is
very
high
and
I
still
think
we
could
actually
do
it.
I
I
figured
we
were
income
for
the
transportation
tax
this
year,
but
I
think
this
gives
us
enough
time
to
start
the
process
and
advocate
for
and
have
it
in
place,
and
then
you
only
have
about
a
year
to
a
year
and
four
months.
I
I
F
A
G
G
I
I
look
at
us
doing
half
a
penny
four
years
and
I
think
that
would
go
through
much
easier
than
the
full
penny
you're
talking
about,
and
then
I
would
expect
that
that
we
would
then
come
back
and
ask
for
a
half
penny
for
transportation
in
in
24,
so
we're
getting
some
on
both
but
again
I'll
support
your
your
your
motion,
but
I
think
again
we're
being
very
aggressive
and
just
assuming
that
people
are
gonna
pass.
This.
A
A
General
obligation,
bonds
or
we
we
may
have
to
do
money
out
of
our
surplus,
and
we
want
to
make
a
change
and
say.
Based
upon
the
information,
you
told
us
it's
better
for
a
half
cent
for
the
four
years
at
the
public
hearing
and
third
reading.
Would
that
be
significant
enough
that
we
would
have
to
kick
it
back?
I
would.
O
Think,
if
you're
going
down
instead
of
going
up,
you're,
probably
in
better
shape-
and
it's
going
to
be
a
referendum
question
anyway,
and
so
I
would,
I
think,
the
way
I
would
approach
it
with
regard
to
the
bonding
is
that
you
authorize
the
bonding
up
to
the
amount
of
the
maximum
amount.
That's
to
be
gathered,
whether
it's
350,
it's
350,.
O
I
A
I
think
that's
appropriate
and
you
know
I
would
tend
to
think
we
should
be
a
little
bit
conservative
and
saying
that
you
know
let's
not
do
the
300
million,
because
then
there
is
the
possibility.
We
can't
collect
all
300
million
in
four
years
because
you
start
in
the
following
may
and
let
it
go
for
four
years.
So
I
would
think
that
280
million
dollars
would
be
more
based.
I
I
N
N
O
So
to
me
that
means
you
got
to
spend
this
money
on
the
preservation
procurement.
I
mean
that's
the
only
thing
you
can
do
is
you
can't
use
it
to
retire
debt
and
whatnot,
and
then
the
legislature
may
tweak
this
in
successive
years.
I
don't
know,
but
you
got
to
bear
in
mind
that
what
you
got,
what
you,
what
you
get
together,
it
seems
to
me
that
the
act
requires
you
to
spend
it
all.
Mr.
A
A
H
O
N
I
would
propose
that
we
list
all
of
those
options
other
than
maybe
leases
in
the
question,
so
that
people
will
know
that
all
of
those
are
on
the
potential
table,
including
density,
but
keep
in
mind
that
whenever
you're
buying
density,
you're
buying
that
density
right
at
pennies
on
on
the
dollar
versus
the
actual
land,
okay,
so
you're
going
to
be
able
to
buy
a
lot
of
density
for
a
lot
less
money
than
to
buy
outright
land.
That's
good
news!
It
is
good
news,
that's
great
news
yeah,
but
again,
that's
why
the
300.
N
A
lot
that's
a
lot
of
money
to
try
to
spend
and
I'm
not
sure
that
there's
any
time,
there's
no
time
frame
in
the
act
that
I'm
aware
of
that
says
when
you
have
to
spend
the
money
by
right.
But
I
don't
think
the
state
legislature
or
our
voters
would
like
for
us
to
stockpile
300
million
dollars
and
let
it
sit
in
account
for
an
extended
period
of
time
to
do
this.
Acquisition.
D
C
B
C
Go
ahead,
are
you
saying
to
me
paul?
Yes,
go
ahead,
thank
you
very
much
yeah.
I
will
gladly
support
whether
it's
four
years
or
two
years,
whatever
this
body,
the
majority
of
the
folks
on
this
body,
won't
do.
But
I
will
I
will
restate
my
reasons
for
two
years:
it's
hedging
a
little
bit
because
number
one
we
don't
know
how
well
we're
going
to
do
this
program.
It
has.
C
It
has
some
lofty
ambition
to
it
and
it'll
probably
be
fantastic
success,
but
we
don't
have
a
track
record
and
at
the
end
of
two
years,
we'll
have
a
track
record.
So,
at
the
end
of
two
years,
if
we
have
federal
money
for
the
roads,
then
we
can
extend
this.
If
we
don't,
we
can
still
do
the
roads
with
the
green
green
belt
component
and
there's
a
lot
of
money
in
that
which
can
be
bonded
immediately.
So
I'm
concerned,
if
we're
not
careful,
we're
going
to
lose
some
support
for
this.
C
The
folks
who
think
that
number
one
priority
should
be
rhodes,
and
so
I
think
we
can
have
our
cake
and
eat
it
too,
but
I
think,
in
order
to
do
that,
you
have
to
abbreviate
the
period
again,
I'm
going
to
I'm
going
to
say
two
years
and
I'll
vote
for
it.
But
if,
if
six
people
on
this
body
want
to
do
four
I'll,
happily
vote
for
that.
AC
E
A
E
Yes,
please,
okay,
I
think
logan's
logic
with
what
he
was
absolutely
spot
on
is
exactly
what
I
was
thinking.
I
think
that
to
compare
it
to
four
years
ago,
with
the
royal
critical
program,
I
think
we're
playing
different
sports.
I
would
view
this
as
a
hedge,
on
the
inflation
that
we've
seen
and
that
we
may
continue
to
say
the
land
values
in
beaufort
county
for
sure.
E
I
think,
if
we're
just
buying
density,
then
that's
not
necessarily
green
space.
It's
just
less
density.
I
don't
know,
that's
really
going
to
get
us
to
where
we
need
to
be,
I
think,
probably
where
we
should
end
up,
is
buying
more
property
buying
more
land
than
actually
holding
it
for
actual
true
green
space.
I
think
that,
just
as
successful
as
the
roland
critical
program
has
been
historically,
I
don't.
I
personally
don't
think
that
we're
gonna
have
a
problem
getting
a
penny
passed
for
four
years.
E
I
think
that
it
also
in
some
in
some
respects,
just
logan,
said
it
misaligns,
the
the
transportation
and
the
the
green
space
so
that
we're
not
going
back
4-2
referendums
at
the
same
time,
because
I
could
see
that
being
problematic,
so
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out.
There
totally
support
the
logic
that
that
okay.
A
L
Flu
yeah.
I
think
it
might
be
appropriate
for
mr
summerville
to
introduce
his
motion
and
to
amend
at
this
point
to
reduce
it
to
two
years,
and
we
can
have
that
discussion,
mr
chairman,
and
and
and
that
way
make
that
determination,
because,
quite
frankly,
I'm
willing
to
see
this
be
on
the
ballot.
In
its
current
offered
motion,
I
would
prefer
two
years,
but
I
would
vote
for
four
and
so
paul.
Would
you
like
to
make
that
motion,
so
I
can
second,
it
I'll
yield
absolutely
absolutely.
L
O
A
O
Well
it
it
does,
but
that
section
of
10
20
subpart
b
when
it
says
two
weeks
before
a
referendum,
a
county's
election
commission
must
publish
in
a
newspaper
of
general
circulation
the
question
that
is
appear
on
the
ballot
comma,
with
a
description
of
the
methods
by
which
the
county's
governing
body
intends
to
procure
the
open
lands
and
green
space.
So
I
think
that
gives
count
council
the
ability
to
pick
and
choose
you
think
it
doesn't.
I.
K
O
K
O
A
H
A
A
F
F
Secondly,
if
we
don't
start
the
program
until
the
spring
of
23,
we
really
haven't
had
enough
time
to
demonstrate
progress
and
also
then
it
would
put
us
in
a
position
that
if
we
wanted
to
do
the
transportation
penny
in
24,
then
we
would
have
two
competing
referendums
again.
So
I
think
the
four
makes
it
more
sense
to
me.
C
C
I
I
I
mean
I
still
support
the
four-year.
I
do
think
they
should
be
stagnated
if
we
have
any
chance
of
doing
transportation
in
this
in
the
future
together.
Okay,
maybe
the
300
million
is
enough
to
last
us
10
years
and
we
knocked
it
out
of
the
park
we're
good
10
years.
We
showed
everybody.
This
is
how
we
were
able
to
bring
down
the
density
and
buy
out
the
land
all
right,
and
that
gets
us
going,
but
I
I
would
still
oppose
the
second
year
and
I
push
for
the
four
year
all.
A
A
F
G
I
G
A
C
A
C
C
C
H
L
A
Yes,
that
is
successful.
Eight
to
two
okay,
so
administration
knows
their
marching
orders
to
put
together
for
the
third
reading,
okay
motion
and
second,
please
for
a
second
reading
of
an
ordinance
ordinance
for
a
2022
streets,
roads,
bridges
and
green
belt.
Green
belts,
sales,
tax
referendum
I'll
make
a
motion.
Miss
howard,
makes
the
motion.
M
M
D
Beaufort
county
has
been
a
leader
for
years
and
I
think,
in
spite
of
what
is
happening
at
the
state
and
the
federal
level,
beaufort
county
has
been
a
leader,
and
I
think
we
continue
that
effort
by
showing
and
demonstrating
that
we
desire
to
lead.
I
think
jared
said
that
we
need
originally
for
10
years,
a
billion
dollars
and
we
didn't
know
how
that
billion
dollars
was
going
to
get
here
for
the
10
years,
and
this
is
a
start
toward
that
effort.
D
C
A
H
Yeah,
I
stated
earlier
that
I
believe
that
our
delegation's
going
to
deliver
those
federal
funds
to
us.
However,
I'd
like
to
move
this
along
to
a
third
reading
and
wait
to
see
what
develops
between
now
and
our
next
council
meeting
with
regard
to
those
assurances
we're
getting
from
the
secretary
of
transportation
and
the
members
of
our
delegation
with
regard
to
how
they
expect
those
dollars
and
delivered
to
us
and
voting
to
federal,
yes
to
move
it
along
to
three.
In
the
event,
there
is
a
no
assurances
received
that
we're
ever
going
to
get
that
money.
L
Mr
chairman,
I
I
do
believe
that
we
should
provide
an
opportunity
for
our
state
delegation
and
even
our
federal
delegation,
to
deliver
on
the
promise
to
to
help
us
fund
that
those
projects-
and
I
think
it's
premature
for
us
to
put
a
question
before
the
voters
at
this
time
without
knowing
what
kind
of
support
that's
going
to
be.
So,
I'm
going
to
vote
no.
G
I,
after
hearing
mr
mckellen,
I
will
actually
vote
yes
for
it.
However,
I
think
the
timing
is
bad.
Now
that
we've
passed
a
green
space,
so
I
mean
my
gut
feeling
is
that,
yes,
we
need
transportation
money.
However,
I
don't
think
we'd
ever
pass,
both
them
in
the
same
election
cycle,
but,
as
mr
mckellen
said,
I
will
move
I'll
vote.
Yes
to
move
it
forward
to
a
third
reading
which,
at
that
time
I
most
likely
will
vote
no.
E
Thank
you.
I've
been
all
over
the
map
on
this.
I
didn't
vote
for
it.
The
last
time
I
was
gonna
support
it
when
we
put
the
green
belt
in
now
that
we've
taken
the
green
belt
as
a
standalone,
I
definitely
think
that
there's
more
of
a
sense
of
urgency
on
the
green
belt
than
there
is
on
the
transportation.
F
One
is
I
I
do
believe
with
the
amount
of
federal
money
that
is
is
flowing,
that
we
will
be
a
recipient
of
some
of
that
and,
as
I've
said
in
the
past,
it's
not
a
matter.
I
don't
believe
of
our
delegations,
washington
or
locally
just
take
a
list
and
go
in
and
say:
okay,
we're
going
to
put
some
money
here.
F
What
we've
got
to
do
is
beaufort
county
is
identify
those
three
or
four
major
projects
that
we
want
to
do,
and
we've
got
to
come
up
with
the
money
to
start
the
engineering
so
that
we're
in
the
pipeline
for
both
the
feds
and
south
carolina,
and
so
we
look
shovel
ready.
I
think
failing
to
do
that,
we
will
be
unsuccessful
with
getting
that
flow
of
money.
So,
but
I
do
believe
if
we
were
to
do
that,
then
I
think
we
will
be
well
positioned
for
any
referendum
in
two
years
on
transportation.
I
I
think
mr
robin
hit
out
the
park.
This
is
the
same
belief
I
have
if
we're
going
to
go
behind
one
referendum,
let's
go
back
to
the
public
now
and
let's
let
them
know
that
we're
pushing
forward
with
this.
We
got
put
behind
the
eight
ball
ones
before
I
said:
let's
not
do
it
again.
Let's
let
the
delegation,
the
state,
know
we're
ready
to
move
forward
with
their
help
and
get
that
opportunity.
So
I
will
oppose
this.
A
The
public
is
a
very
astute
group
of
individuals
if
we
go
out
for
a
transportation
referendum
as
well
as
a
green
space
referendum.
The
way
the
tac
has
proposed
this
for
10
years
and
700
million
dollars
in
there
are
duplications
one
we
just
passed
the
green
space.
The
green
belt
is
a
duplication
of
that.
A
A
A
A
It
should
be
done
in
24
or
26,
allowing
us
to
spend
money
to
one
create
the
engineering
that
we
need
for
the
specific
projects
that
we
would
get
out
for
and
number
two
to
do,
some
projects
that
are
on
that
list
right
now
that
will
show
the
taxpayers
of
our
community
this
time
we
got
it
right
this
time.
We
know
what
we're
doing
this
time,
we're
going
to
be
able
to
show
you
that
we're
spending
your
money
wisely.
So
I
am
a
no.
A
N
N
N
There's
some
money
to
do
some
engineering
work
on
road
projects
without
a
funding
source
to
do
the
to
do
the
actual
project,
but
we've
got
a
lot
of
needs
in
this
county
that,
because
of
deferred
issues
from
past
administrations,
we've
got
recreation
needs
we're
doing
a
recreation
study.
We
got
a
facilities,
master
plan,
that's
coming
up,
we've
got
infrastructure
issues,
we've
got
finishing
up.
N
N
N
And
then
one
night
someone
shows
up
and
all
of
that's
put
to
bed
for
something
that
I
steal
as
county
administrator.
Don't
have
any
idea
if
it's
going
to
work
appropriately
or
if
it's
going
to
be
feasible
or
if
we're
going
to
have
columbia,
dictating
what
properties
we
buy
in
the
next
couple
of
years.
I
know
what
was
said,
but
what
was
said
and
what's
in
actuality
is
two
different
things.
So
we
we
can
all
read
the
question.
We
can
all
read
the
legislation.
N
C
E
F
H
I
I
D
D
I
don't
have
the
votes
for
my
region.
I
need
this
council
as
a
whole
to
support
my
region
and
that's
not
happening.
I
can
see
things
happening
south
abroad,
but
not
north
abroad.
I
have
just
as
much
problems
north
of
the
broad
as
you
have
on
south
abroad,
when
highways
are
blocked
for
four
hours.
It
stopped
everybody
north
of
abroad
and
that's
been
happening
more
and
more
frequently,
and
I
just
need
your.
I
need
this
council
to
recognize
that.
A
A
A
A
AC
A
A
AC
AC
AC
So
I
I
wanted
to
just
set
that
he
has
gone
home,
but
I
want
to
just
bring
into
the
council's
attention
that
I
am
the
community
in
the
historic
district,
but
the
individuals
that
I've
spoken
with
are
in
full
support
of
the
account
of
beaufort
county
acquiring.
The
property
is
known
as
melrose
dock
for
public
use,
a
permanent
location
for
an
embarkation
center
on
the
husky
island
and
on
hilton
head
will
give
the
community
a
sense
of
security.
AC
The
group-
that's
interested
in
managing
the
dot,
came
to
the
island,
expressing
a
desire
to
be
a
part
of
the
community,
as
the
residents
have
seen
so
far.
Is
that
the
the
limited
limit
that
the
parking
for
residents
have
been
limited
we've
been
moved
to
the
back
area
of
grassy
of
the
grassy
area
field.