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From YouTube: Planning Commission Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 6:00 PM
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Planning Commission Wednesday, June 28, 2023 can be found here: https://bluffton-sc.municodemeetings.com/
A
We
recognize
that
our
chair
can't
be
here
due
to
a
family
issue
tonight
and
I.
Ask
it
all
on
commissioned
to
have
a
little
bit
of
patience
with
me,
as
this
is
only
the
second
time.
I've
ever
done
this
and
folks
out
there
as
well.
First
of
all
notice
regarding
adjournment,
the
Planning
Commission
will
not
hear
new
items
after
9
30
PM
unless
authorized
by
a
majority
vote
at
the
commission
member's
president
items,
which
have
not
been
heard
before.
A
9
30
PM,
maybe
continued
to
the
next
regular
meeting
or
a
special
meeting
date
as
determined
by
the
commission
members
notice
regarding
public
comments.
Every
member
of
the
public,
who
is
recognized
to
speak,
shall
address
the
chairman
and,
in
speaking,
avoid
disrespect
to
commission
staff
or
other
members
of
the
meeting
say
your
name
and
address
when
speaking
for
the
record
comments
are
limited
to
a
maximum
of
three
minutes.
A
Do
we
have
any
other
comments?
Okay,
how
did
I
read
that.
A
Can
I
get
a
motion
on
the
agenda?
I'll
make
a
motion:
okay,
I
have
a
second.
Second,
all
those
in
favor
all
right
and
I
have
a
motion
on
the
minutes
from
June
22nd
Friday,
again,
June
28th
I
make
a
motion
to
approve
okay.
Second,
second,
all
those
in
favor
all
right
opposed.
Okay,
no
public
comments
there
being
no
old
business.
A
We
have
under
new
business.
The
first
item
is
parcel
B1
initial
master
plan,
a
request
by
Brian
Whitmer,
At,
Whitman,
Jones,
Kiefer
limited
on
behalf
of
millstone
Ventures
LLC
and
with
the
approval
of
the
property
owner
parcel
8,
a
LLC
for
approval
of
an
initial
master
plan
application.
The
project
proposed
to
16.02
acres
of
residential
development
and
5.9
Acres
of
commercial
development.
The
property
is
zoned
Buckwalter
PUD.
It
gives
us
a
21.92
Acres
identified
by
tax
map
number
and
it's
on
the
future.
A
C
C
C
This
is
an
initial
master
plan,
but
this
came
before
you
in
May
of
this
year
as
a
master
plan
Amendment,
there
are
very
minor
changes
from
what
was
submitted
originally,
that
you
guys
approved
that
with
three
staff
recommended
conditions
and
one
additional
condition
that
that
was
added
by
Planning
Commission,
actually,
the
pink
line
that
got
a
bigger
picture
of
the
con
of
the
master
plan,
but
the
pink
line
that
you
see
here
was
was
added,
that's
actually
the
that
was
the
added
condition
that
that
was
put
on
the
plan
previously.
C
Initial
master
plan
consists
of
21.92
Acres
that
will
include
16.02
Acres
of
residential
development
and
5.9
Acres
of
commercial
development.
That's
exactly
matches
the
acreage
of
the
previous
submittal
that
that
they
had
with
the
master
plan.
Amendment
plan
provides
connectivity
between
the
uses
and
northward
into
the
adjacent
properties
located
within
the
Walter
Crossroads
master
plan.
C
All
proposed
development
is
subject
to
full
review
and
approval
at
time
of
development
plans
available.
We
say
that
to
remind
you
that
you're
you're
not
approving
these
specific
light
site
layouts
that
are
shown
on
the
master
plan
you're
just
approving
the
initial
master
plan.
Subject:
property
is
within
the
highway
Corridor
overlay
and
will
require
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
reviewing
Landscaping
lighting
and
architecture
at
time
of
develop
clients
middle
subject,
property
also
is
within.
What's
the
Beaufort,
County
connects
2021
bicycle
pedestrian
plan.
C
This
was
adopted
by
Town
Council,
so
this
property
is
subject
to
it
and
it
requires
that
a
bike
path
be
provided
along.
Look,
it's
called
out
as
the
Northbound
side
of
sc-170,
so
it
would
be
across
the
frontage
of
this
and
we'd
be
asking
for
that.
As
a
developments
come
in,
this
is
the
the
master
plan,
that's
being
provided
being
requested
to
be
approved
tonight,
that's
a
closer
version
of
in
case.
We
need
to
come
back
to
it.
C
So
there's
a
pre
application
meeting
in
December
of
2022
and
the
application
check-in
in
January
of
2023.
This
was
reviewed
by
DRC
as
an
initial
master
plan
in
June,
28
2023
we're
here
tonight,
July
26th
and
you
will
be
recommending
making
a
recommendation
to
Town
Council
for
this
master
plan,
and
then
we
at
that
date
will
be
determined.
C
So
so
tonight
you
can
recommend
approval
of
the
application
as
submitted
recommend
approval.
The
application
with
conditions
recommend
denial
it.
The
application,
as
submitted
by
the
applicant
found
staff
recommendation,
is
approval
with
conditions
of
these
three
conditions
of
the
same
ones
that
you've
seen
before
when
it
came
through
it
as
a
master
plan
movement,
it
is
one
is
a
statement
shall
be
placed
on
the
initial
master
plan,
declaring
that
all
development
within
the
master
plan
shall
conform
to
the
requirements
of
recommendations
of
the
Beaufort.
County
connects
2021
bicycle
pedestrian
plan.
C
Two
is
whether
located
on
or
off
site
and
show
me
the
responsibility
of
the
developer
to
install
a
10-foot,
wide
bicycle
pedestrian
path
along
sc-170
Frontage
consistent
with
the
requirements
and
recommendations
of
the
Beaufort
County
connects
2021
bicycle
pedestrian
plant.
In
conjunction
with
individual
site
development
within
the
parcel
One
initial
master
plan,
so
as
the
individual
development
plans
come
in,
we'll
require
that
that
be
installed
and
number
three
is
site.
Layouts
for
all
Parcels
are
subject
to
full
Town
review
and
approval
Atomic
development
class.
C
A
C
That's
right:
The,
General
commercial
is
allowed
throughout
this
throughout
all
of
these
parcels
and
that's
a
very
wide
open
list
of
prevented
users.
C
And
yes,
it
it
does
here
and
then
when
they
come
in
with,
if
they
come
in
with
a
development
plan
that
that
will
take
a
harder
look
at
it,
but
but
that
that
is
a
two
two
lines
in
one
line
out
is
is
what's
recommended
with
that.
What
the
the
Tia
called
that
phase,
one
of
the
development
by
By
Request
by
the
applicant
so
phase
one
being
the
apartments
and
that
Improvement
would
happen
with
with
the
apartments
a
future
phase
would
kick
in
the
dedicated
left
turn
lane
off
of
pivot
to
configure
as
well.
F
Dan
one
of
the
staff
comments,
there
was
some
question
about
five
parking
spots
for
the
residences.
Did
you
address
that
you
did
in.
C
The
each
time
I
touched
this,
it
does
something
different
there
we
go.
It
used
to
be
five
spots
that
were
running
parallel
right
here,
they've
relocated,
those
five
spots
to
this
position
we
had
asked
for
that.
We
felt
that
that
this
was
pretty
far
removed
to
serve
as
as
parking
for
the
apartments.
Thank
you.
A
A
G
And
if
so
and
I
may
need
to
get
some
help
from
Mr
Nestor
on
that,
but
the
these
entitlements
are
already
there
that
I,
don't
think,
there's
any
more
conversions
that
can
happen
within
the
Buckwalter
PUD,
because
oh
thank.
H
Oh
welcome
message
for
the
applicant
and
and
dance
correct:
there
are
no
more
conversions
available
left
in
the
buck.
Bolts
are
all
those
conversions
have
been
completed,
but
this
land
is
entitled
already.
So
the
these
development
rights
run
run
with
the
land
in
this
area
of
Walter
Commons.
H
They're
coming
from
owners
ownership
in
Buckwalter
Commons,
which
there's
some
common
ownership
in
public
Walter
comments.
Not
only
the
existing
owner
but
other
other
entities
all
running
down
to
the
same
owner,
but
that
the
purchase
contract
contemplates
the
assignment
of
the
density
rights
or
the
different
rights
from
that
owner.
A
Okay,
then,
the
only
question
I
have
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
don't
do
anything
wrong
for
the
property
owner,
because
this
isn't
someone
imp.
Are
they
still
going
to
be
able
to
assign
properly
between
the
different
areas
about
Walter
Commons
or
does
that
think
of
something
can't
come
from
Buckwalter
Commons
here?
Because
this
is
not
what
Walter
Commons
anymore
correct.
A
C
I
Thank
you,
Dan
for
presenting
our
project.
I
appreciate
that
very
much
just
this
is
a
little
bit
of
a
reiteration,
obviously
we're
back
with
a
new
master
plan
instead
of
a
master
plan,
Amendment
just
to
keep
it
simpler
and
so
that
we
can
consider
this
track
and
the
master
plan
for
it
without
having
to
get
into
details
associated
with
a
bunch
of
other
properties
that
are
part
of
the
Walter
Crossroads
master
plan.
I
So
thanks
for
giving
us
the
opportunity
to
do
that,
and
no
I
mean
that's
really
it
if
you
guys
have
any
questions
or
comments
for
us
as
Africa
I'm
gonna
be
happy
to
answer
any
of
those.
We
have
our
whole
design
team
here
today
with
Ward
Edwards,
Woodward,
Jones,
Kiefer
and
even
our
traffic
engineer,
and
then
that's
Millstone
here
today,
so
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
have
goodbye.
I
J
I'll
make
a
motion
that
we
approve
with
conditions
according
to
stop.
Town
staff
find
that
the
requirements
of
section
3.9.3
of
the
Udo
can
be
met
with
the
following
conditions
and
recommendations
that
the
Planning
Commission
provides
recommendation
of
additional
approval,
Town
Council
for
the
parcel
B-1
initial
master
plan
number
one.
A
statement
shall
be
placed
on
the
initial
master
plan,
declaring
that
all
development
within
the
master
plan
shall
perform
to
the
requirements
and
recommendations
of
the.
J
If
the
company
connects
2021
bicycle
pedestrian,
Club
number,
two
one
located
on
or
off
site
that
shall
be
the
responsibility
of
the
developers
to
install
10
foot
wide
bicycle
pedestrian
path
along
South,
Carolina,
Highway,
170,
Frontage,
consistent
with
the
requirements
and
recommendations
of
the
Beaufort
County
connects
2021
bicycle
pedestrian
land
in
conjunction
with
individual
site
development
within
the
possible
B1
initial
master
plan.
Another
three
site,
layouts
for
all
Parcels,
are
subject
to
the
full-time
review.
Approval
of
time
of
development
plans.
A
A
Item
number:
two
on
the
agenda:
cardboard:
Bluffton
development
plan
application,
a
request
by
Dan
key
for
a
weimarron
Jones
key
for
limited
on
behalf
of
the
property
owner
Charlie
and
brown
LLC
for
approval
of
a
preliminary
development
plan.
The
project
consists
of
the
construction
of
a
plus
or
minus
twenty
thousand
square
foot,
two-story
Clubhouse
and
five
buildings
divided
into
plus
or
minus
31
high-end
garage
condominium
units.
The
property
is
owned,
Village
at
verdier,
verdier
PUD
and
consists
of
approximately
five
acres
and
the
tax
map.
C
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman.
This
is
a
preliminary
development
plan
for
Carr
Village,
the
applicant
Dan
Kiefer
Butler
Jones
Kiefer
on
behalf
of
the
property
owner
Charlie
Brown
LLC
is
requesting
approval
of
a
preliminary
development
plan.
Project
proposes
and
Automotive
Enthusiast
Club
to
include
a
clubhouse
and
Heinen
garage
condo
units,
a
five-acre
property
at
zillow's,
Village
effort
near
PUD,
and
it's
located
within
the
village.
After
deer
master
plan
on
the
west
side
of
okatee
highway
approximately
1200
feet
south
of
seagrass
Station
Road.
C
Preceding
this
application,
the
the
applicant
had
requested
a
master
plan,
amendment
that
came
before
you,
you
guys
recommended
approval
to
Town
Council
It,
ultimately
got
approved
that
Town
Council
prior
to
the
amendment,
the
road-
that's
here.
It's
actually
blown
up
over
here
to
the
right
who
has
shown
the
same
as
the
rest
of
these.
It
was
supposed
to
be
a
residential
road
that
provided
provided
access
out
to
to
sc-170
cutting
across
what
we
call
parcel
YZ,
which
is
a
subject
property.
C
The
the
applicant
requested
that
that
road
be
turned
into
an
emergence
Access
Road
only
and
it
would
have
two
gates
on
it.
You'll
be
able
to
see
the
gates
better
when
I
pull
up
the
site
plan
that
was
approved
at
Town,
Council,
and
so
where
we
are
now
is
we
have
an
amended
master
plan
that
kind
of
fits
the
business
plan
of
the
business
model
of
this
car
Village
Bluffton.
C
This
application
is
for
preliminary
development
plan
located
within
the
Philadelphia
and
it's
subject
to
the
standard
set
forth
in
the
village
effort
here.
Pud
master
plan
development
agreement
project
proposes
the
construction
of
a
20
000
square
foot,
two-story
Clubhouse
and
five
buildings
divided
into
a
total
of
31
high-end
garage
condo
units
Clubhouse
will
include
a
showroom.
Lounge
area
offices,
light
Automotive,
Maintenance,
common
Gathering
spaces
offices,
dining
and
kitchen
facilities
will
be
on
the
second
floor.
C
The
individually
owned
garage
condos
are
approximately
1
680
square
feet
and
will
include
storage
for
a
collector
and
or
Classic
Motor
Vehicles
subject:
property
is
in
the
highway
Corridor
overlay
and
will
require
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
reviewing
Landscaping
lighting
and
architecture.
So
that
will
come
before
you
again.
C
A
technical
memorandum
analyzing
the
traffic
impacts
of
the
proposed
roadway
changes,
what's
provided
as
part
of
the
master
plan
Amendment
and
the
finding
was
that,
based
on
the
Capacity
Analysis,
removing
access
to
Hagar
Street
will
have
a
minimal
impact
on
the
surrounding
World
Network,
so
that
was
brought
to
council
as
part
of
the
master
plan,
but
brought
up
again
here.
As
a
reminder,
staff
comments
on
a
preliminary
development
plan
were
reviewed
at
the
June
21st
2023
development
or
DRC
meeting
applicant,
provided
a
response
to
comments
on
June
28th.
C
C
Commission
packet,
you
have
the
authority
to
take
the
following
action:
approve
the
application,
as
submitted
by
the
applicant,
approve
the
application
with
conditions
table
the
application
or
deny
the
application,
as
submitted
by
the
applicant
and
town
staff,
finds
that
the
requirements
of
section
3103a
of
the
development
ordinance
are
met
and
recommends
that
the
Planning
Commission
approve
the
application
as
submitted.
We've
worked
a
lot
with
the
applicant
on
this.
It's
been
a
long
road
Forum
that
actually
went
to
bza
for
a
appeal
of
a
Udo
administrator
decision
on
whether
how
to
define
the
permitted
use
so.
A
H
E
Thank
you,
commissioner
wepner.
My
name
is
Dan
Kiefer
with
Whitmore
Insurance,
Kiefer
and
command.
The
project
team
here
King
is
with
our
our
group
at
Dylan
Turner
traffic
engineer,
Walter
Nestor,
Kevin,
mievel,
owner's
rep
and
Jeff
Beckham
temperature
with
acne
engineering,
we're
here
primarily
to
answer
questions
I,
think
we've
addressed
everything
with
Dan
and
appreciate
Dan's
help,
and
if
you
have
questions
for
us,
we
got
everybody
here.
Well,.
A
I
know
a
concern
in
the
past
was
the
neighbors
and
their
reaction.
Can
you
just
go
through
what
kind
of
communications
you've
had
with
the
adjacent
Property
Owners?
Yes,.
E
We've
had
several
meetings
with
the
owners
most
recent,
but
I
won't
go
back
because
I
mean
it
was
involved
in
the
last
one
with
the
road
relocation.
We
had
a
call
last
week
with
the
owners
with
the
with
the
board
members,
and
during
that
call,
we
presented
this
plan
or
showed
this
plan.
Everything
that's
been
reviewed
this
evening
and
then
we
let
them
know
that,
prior
to
the
next,
we
got
to
submit
for
quarter
review,
that'll,
be
architecture,
Landscape
and
Lighting.
E
A
A
Sir
party,
everyone
is
getting
off.
Okay,
I
do
just
want
to
make
a
comment.
We
discussed
this
a
little
bit
before
the
meeting.
I
went
on
to
the
car
Village
website
to
kind
of
get
a
feel
for.
What's
coming
up,
Please,
be
aware
when
you
and
I'm
one
of
six
people
up
here,
so
the
other
Commissioners
may
not
feel
the
same,
but
I
think
they
do.
The
architecture
that
is
presented
on
that
website
is
very
Stark
and
not
necessary,
and
necessarily
in
the
Low
Country
vernacular
as
IT
addresses
170..
C
F
A
It's
gonna
be
a
bit
of
a
challenge:
yeah
the
back's
going
to
be
a
challenge
the
Landscaping
will
have
to
and
and
we're
getting
ahead
of
ourselves
here.
Some
of
the
renderings
are
really
cool
looking,
but
not
necessarily
in
what
we're
tasked
for
doing
so.
Just
don't
want
you
all
to
make
a
bunch
or
do
a
bunch
of
work
before
you
come
to
staff
with
the
application
that
that
may
happen
to
be
a
rewarded.
F
I
recommend
that
we
approve
Town
staff,
fines
as
a
requirements
of
section
3103a
of
unified
development,
ordinance
or
Med
I
recommended
the
Planning
Commission.
We
as
the
Planning
Commission
approve
the
application
as
submitted
here.
We
have.
A
J
A
Anything
else
for
discussion.
Anybody
else
want
to
say
anything
else
like
no.
It
was
nice
Michael
Charlie
was
fine,
no
I'm
not
like
the
last
part,
because.