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Town Council Quarterly CIP Workshop Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 5:00 PM
Meeting agenda can be found here: https://bluffton-sc.municodemeetings.com/
A
We
do
have
a
public
comment,
but
I
also
when
we
go
through
each
item.
I
do
look
around
the
room.
Master
Council
has
questions
to
see.
If
you
have
questions
based
on
what
we
had
questions
on,
so
you
feel
free
to
make
your
public
comment
absolutely,
but
don't
feel
like
that's
the
only
time
as
long
as
Council
gets
information
and
gives
direction
to
staff
that
they
are
looking
for.
So
we
will
call
this
meeting
order,
we're
all
accounted
for,
except
for
Mr
tumor
who
is
on
vacation.
A
B
Right,
Morgan,
Crush
Lee
10,
foggy
Bluff,
Road,
hello,
Council
I'm,
with
the
Bluffton
paddle
club,
we're
a
local,
not-for-profit
50
member
collection
of
sport
and
recreational
enthusiasts
in
the
paddle
World.
We've
had
all
over
Bluffton
all
over
the
area.
First
I
want
to
offer
our
services
for
kayak
launch.
You
know
if
you
guys
need
folks
to
plant
bushes
Hammer
docks
in
build
awareness.
You
know
work
great
group.
We
already
do
the
cleanups
a
couple
items
for
a
kayak
launch,
you
know,
did,
did
some
homework.
Looking
at
previous
Master
plans.
B
First
item
I,
you
know
I
challenge
the
folks
that
are
working
on
on
that
kayak
launch
to
think
bigger
than
and
just
a
kayak
launch
kayaking
is
part
of
a
larger
sport
of
paddling.
You
know
which
we
just
had
a
gold
medalist
in
kayaking.
You
got
Outriggers,
you
have
dragon
boats,
you
have
canoes,
it's
a
big
sport,
so
I
challenge
folks
when
you're
thinking
about
a
kayak
watch
think
about
paddling
as
a
sport
as
a
whole
and
included
All
Sports
in
there.
B
Secondly,
cement
launch
or
not
when
you're
thinking
kayak
watch
avoid
a
cement
launch
as
they
get
slippery.
They
get
wet,
they
get
sharp,
especially
with
oysters
number
two
when
you're
thinking
about
any
any
launch.
You
know
it's
looking
at
the
master
plan.
The
previous
master
plan
for
the
oyster
park
looks
like
there
is
a
crabbing
fishing
dock.
That's
actually
a
great
place
to
put
a
paddle
dock
that
you
can
combine
as
a
fishing
paddling.
You
see
it
and
work
well
at
the
Skull
Creek
or
rowing
Center
as
well
recommendations
for
that
make
it
low
profile.
B
Not
your
standard
floating
dock,
two
feet
down
it's
hard
to
reach
up
pick
up
equipment
make
it
long
make
it
straight,
make
it
wide
avoid
pilings,
think
about
carrying
a
20-foot
craft
and
trying
to
hit
pilings
any
turn.
No
L's,
no
T's,
because
you
know
you
can
just
you
can
knock
someone
off
the
off
the
dock.
That
way.
B
Those
are
the
main
points
give
it
long.
You
know
hopefully
50
feet
past
the
low
point,
so
you
can
include
a
Dragon
Boat.
You
know
we
are
Bluffton
paddle
club.
We
are
the
fastest
drag
boat
south
of
the
broad
finger
docked.
If
you're
thinking
about
putting
a
finger
dock
in
there
or
some
sort
of
kayak
launch
I
recommend
putting
it,
you
know
possibly
in
the
end
of
the
dock,
so
that
it
incorporates
at
some
distance,
add
some
distance
stock
and
it's
easier
to
navigate
around.
A
Public
comment
is
over
again
I'm
gonna,
we're
gonna,
look
at
Council
first,
but
if
there
any
comments
that
you
can
add
to,
please
raise
your
hand
and
out
we'll
get
to
you.
We
have
the
first
we're
talking
about.
Is
the
kayak
launch,
potentially
at
Oyster
Factory
Park
yeah,
and
since
we
have
a
good
group
here,
that's
learning
as
well
as
wanting
to
give
advice,
maybe
remind
all
of
us
what's
in
our
world
of
being
able
to
do
and
what
we
have
to
have
approvals
for
from
people
in
Colombia,
okay,.
D
D
D
D
Okay,
as
you
know,
the
courtesy
dock
was
constructed
in
2016
and
there
was
no
dedicated
kayak
launching
facilities
placed
at
that
dock.
I.
Think
the
thought
process
at
the
time
was
that
that
kayakers
would
launch
off
of
the
oyster,
slash
Beach
area
on
either
side
of
the
dock,
but
primarily
on
the
western
side.
D
E
E
D
Okay
right
here
at
lunch
time,
at
lunch
time,
I
was
out
there
and
I
took
a
look,
and
there
was
someone
coming
in
from
a
paddle
90
degrees,
I'm
sure
they
were
nice
and
hot,
but
they
were.
They
pulled
off
right
off
of
that
oyster
Beach
right
there
right
next
to
the
dock
and
I'm
suspect
this
person
went
back
to
his
car,
pulled
it
right
up
beside
it
and
tried
to
load
his
kayaks
on
top
of
there.
D
You
know
that
can
work
during
times
when
there's
not
a
lot
of
boating
activity,
but
if
they
were
to
pull
off
to
the
side
of
the
dock
or
over
and
over
into
the
Oyster
Company
parking
lot,
it
kind
of
obstructs
maneuverability
into
the
the
doc
the
ramp
itself.
So
there
is
some
conflicts
there.
So
what
were
I
think
our
first
task
was
to
find
a
spot
where
we
could
kind
of
create
a
space
for
kayak
unloading
and
that's
what
this
sketch
is
here.
D
A
A
D
D
Okay,
this
is
existing
conditions,
the
courtesy
docus
on
the
right
and
the
Rowe
family
docus
on
the
left,
and
that
blue
line
is
the
extended
property
line.
So
what
we
looked
at
it
first
before
we
got
into
the
Alternatives
I'm
going
to
go
over
tonight
was
the
possibility
of
creating
a
separate
kayak
dock
that
was
parallel
to
the
existing
courtesy
dock
that
came
off,
that
western
side
of
the
dock
and
then
came
out
to
the
water.
D
We
ran
that
through
ocrm
immediately
that
was
kind
of
something
they
they
said
would
never
happen,
because
we
can
only
have
one
dock
per
parcel
so
that
that's
not
a
feasible,
so
the
Alternatives
will
have
to
be
something
that
comes
off
the
existing
dock
as
opposed
to
creating
a
separate
dock
in
that
area.
So
only
one
dock
per
parcel,
some
of
the
other
things
you
know
anything
we
do
up.
D
D
A
F
Know
I
get
that
what
he
was
asking
is
essentially
by
permission
to
be
able
to
construct
another
doctor
be
separate
for
kayak
launching,
and
so,
if,
where
our
current
dock
is
that's
considered
to
be
a
parcel
pretty
much,
we
cannot
duplicate
another
doc
there
if
we
also
own
the
property.
Next
to
it,
like
we're,
Garden
houses
I'm
trying
to
get
an
understanding
if
that's
still
considered
all
parcel
one
and
that's
why
they're
saying
no
proposed
additional
docs,
because
all
of
that
is
lumped
together
as
as
one
yeah.
D
I'm
not
saying
that's
not
feasible,
it's
just.
There
are
some
problems
associated
with
that
you're
awful
close
to
the
row
parcel
so
creating
something
there
would
be
difficult.
The
bluff
over
there
is
higher
than
what
it
is
here
at
this
location
and
getting
down
to
the
level
of
the
dock
would
create
an
awful
lot
of
construction
to
get
you
down
to
that
point.
So
I
think
there's
some
it's
problematic
in
that
sense,.
A
A
G
H
A
H
H
There
are
also
setback
considerations.
So
if
we
tried,
as
Pat
was
saying
trying
to
extend
a
dock
off
of
this
Bluff
may
be
feasible,
but
it's
there's
going
to
be
a
lot,
a
lot
of
constricting
factors
considering
you're
hauling,
something
down
there
with
the
grade
changes.
Additionally,
we're
going
to
have
some
setbacks
that
we're
going
to
have
to
meet
per
OCR
M
as
well,
and
then
you've
also
got
another
dot
coming
out
potentially
and
conflicting
with
the
boat
area.
H
So
they're
I
mean
yes,
we
can
look
at
it
more
indefinitely
will,
but
initially
that's
why
we
didn't
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
that
option.
It
seemed
the
least
in
granted.
This
is
Workshop,
so
we
hadn't
gone
out
and
got
a
lot
of
stakeholder
inputs.
Sorry
y'all
we're
just
starting
to
do
feasibility
and
ideas
and
spitballing
them
right
now
that
coming
off
of
the
existing
Dock
and
modifying
that
would
be
easier
than
trying
to
come
off
that
bluff
and
make
something
that
you
could
haul
a
kayak
down
is.
H
F
You
know
a
separate
dock
because
just
being
down
at
the
Oyster
Factory,
if
there's
an
event
going
on,
if
it's
a
busy
day
for
both
if
people
are
trying
to
patronize
the
Bluffton
Seafood
cold,
like
it's
a
lot
and
for
kayakers
who
you
know,
might
just
be
trying
to
be
out
there
to
to
paddle
and
to
do
that
activity,
it
becomes
to
me
like
a
safety.
Exactly
it
doesn't
seem
like
it.
It
would
be
sufficient
enough
for
them
and
getting
congested
into
into
all
of
that.
You're.
H
Exactly
right-
and
that
was
one
of
the
things
social
concerns
councilman
tumor-
had
when
he
came
to
the
town
manager
and
asked
us
to
take
a
look
at
some
of
these
options
because
obviously
he's
seeing
that
every
day
and
those
conflicts
and
potential
safety
issues.
It's
also
why
Pat
asked
Whitmer
Jones
keeper
to
take
a
look
at.
D
Thank
you
anyways
we
were,
we
were
into
the
permitting
regulations,
and
one
of
them
was
specifically
20-foot.
Setback
off
minimum,
often
extended
property
line.
So
again
that
limits
your
space
on
that
third
parcel
to
really
develop
a
full-fledged
kayak
facility,
so
I'm
going
to
go
over
some
three
options
that
we
had
looked
at
for
using
the
existing
dock
as
an
appendage
to
the
existing
dock.
The
first
one
is
kind
of
a
low
cost
prefabricated
unit
created
by
easy
dock.
D
The
second
one
is
a
retrofit
of
an
of
the
existing
dock
to
add
a
permanent,
fixed
kayak
launch
to
match
existing
dock
construction.
You'll
see
that
is
a
kind
of
a
U-shaped
configuration
and
then
a
retrofit
of
the
to
add
a
kayak
launch,
plus
extending
the
existing
dock
to
replace
some
of
the
the
docking
space
that
we
lose
to
accommodate
the
kayak
launch.
D
A
D
And
there's
there's
there's
types
of
docs
that
are
Ada
accessible
to
these
types
of
docs
or
any
accessible
I've
heard
from
some
of
the
Marine
Contractors
that
they
don't
like
these
extensions
of
the
the
rails
on
the
sides.
As
you
see
on
the
two
images
on
the
right,
because
they
often
get
hit
by
posts.
D
Maneuvering
in
the
area
so
anyways,
this
is
what
it
would
look
like
attached
to
the
existing
courtesy
dock.
The
one
negative
is
that
second
bulletin
point
bullet
point
there.
That
indicates
that
you
would
lose
a
boat
docking
space
on
the
back
side
of
the
dock.
Right
now,
when
there's
heavy
traffic
at
the
Landing
you,
you
might
get
boats
parking
back
there
on
the
back
side
of
the
dock,
and
this
takes
away
some
of
that
space.
D
D
Second
option
we
looked
at
was
basically
creating
a
finger
dock
with
a
kayak
launch
in
the
Middle,
with
two
two
extensions
underneath
the
surface
of
that
void
area
between
the
two
fingers
is
a
kind
of
metal
grate
where
you
can
stand
on
it
and
and
it's
below
the
surface
again.
This
has
got
is
problematic
because
it
takes
away
docking
space
on
the
back
side
of
the
dock.
These
both
were
done
where
shots
were
taken
at
low
tide,
so
you
can
see
them
and
one
of
the
problems
also
is
you
need
definite
water
depth.
D
For
this
to
happen,
you
need
at
least
two
feet
of
water
for
that
to
happen
and
I
think
we
do
at
that
location.
Barely.
This
is
what
those
two
look
like.
The
one
on
the
left
is
a
wood
dock
construction
and
the
one
on
the
right.
You
can
see
the
guy
standing
on
that
metal
grate
to
get
on
his
paddle
board
and
that's
probably
trucks,
construction.
You
can
see
these
are
fixed
with
pilings,
so
they
would
withstand
kind
of
hurricane
issues
more
than
the
easy
dock
wood.
D
This
third
option
is
taking
the
existing
Dock
and
actually
extending
it
out
into
the
water
another
20
feet
and
then
turning
it
and
going
Westerly
another
60
feet.
So
you
pick
up
all
that
dock
space
that
you
lost.
Putting
in
a
kayak
launch
on
the
back
side
you
mighty,
and
also
that
L
L-shaped
part
of
the
existing
dock
would
kind
of
create
a
little
separation
from
the
kayakers
and
the
voters.
D
The
voters
would
be
parking
more
on
the
on
the
extended
dock
portion
and
the
kayakers
would
be
coming
out
of
that
regardless
they're
both
going
to
be
traveling
in
that
same
area.
So
there
is
some
conflict
there,
and
this
is
not
to
say
that
people
can't
still
utilize
the
oyster
shell
area
when
necessary.
D
D
D
Well,
that
was
an
indication
we
talked
about
the
feasibility
of
putting
kayak
racks
there
so
that
someone
can
take
it
off
their
their
car.
Put
it
on
a
rack
go
park,
their
car
come
back,
we'd
have
dollies,
potentially
dollies
there,
so
that
they
could
could
wheel
their
kayaks
down,
make
it
easier
because
we're
kind
of
taking
them
further
off
the
water.
At
this
point,
so
we
want
to
make
it
as
easy
as
possible
to
get
down
to
the
water.
D
G
D
Would
wheel
it
down,
we
think
we
can
make
the
turns,
and
the
first
two
turns
that
last
turn
is
going
to
be
problematic,
so
we
might
have
to
look
at
a
little
bit
of
a
modification
to
the
the
handicap.
Access
point.
I
mean
I've
got
my
this
here.
If
you
can
follow
my
cursor
there,
this
looks
like
it's
easy
to
do.
This
is
this
is
a
problematic,
so
we
might
have
to
do
something
on
that
corner.
A
D
C
A
D
I
I
In
the
case
we
need,
you
know
to
find
more
avenues
for
water
access,
a
couple
of
things
you
know,
and
we
looked
at
a
place
today,
potentially
that
you
know
maybe
we,
this
Council
needs
to
step
back
with
staff
and
and
see
if
there's
other
alternatives
to
reach
the
goal
one
is
in
in
mayor
and
you
and
Fred
were
here
and
I
I,
don't
remember
everything
about
it,
but
that
20-foot
strip
back
there.
You
know
we
looked
at
that
a
long
time
ago.
It's
on
the
map
that
he
he
showed
a
second
ago.
C
I
Another
thing
would
be
the
I
think
on
a
more
global
view,
would
be
talking
with
Beaufort
County
to
see
what
the
county
has
available
in
in
somewhere
in
this
vicinity
at
a
minimum.
The
county
like
us
should
be
thinking
in
terms
of
paddle,
boarders
and
kayakers.
You
know
to
where
that
we
could
possibly
do
something
collab,
you
know
collaborate
so
what's
available
there
I
knew
they
were
looking
at
doing
something
on
the
new
Riverside
area.
So.
H
We
actually
have
a
regional,
it's
about
every
other
month,
a
regional
CIP
coordination
meeting
with
the
county
and
with
other
jurisdictions
and
utilities,
so
we're
all
getting
together
and
talking
about
how
we
impact
each
other
I've
reached
out
to
Jared
frailix.
They
have
completed
their
Beaufort
County
Water
Access,
which
is
essentially
their
doc
access
assessment
plan.
H
I,
don't
know
that
they
have
it
back
in
hand
yet,
but
he's
willing
to
share
it
and
that's
an
assessment
county-wide
of
accessibility
for
all
types
of
water
access
and
what
a
potential
improvements
they
can
do
because
I
told
them.
We
were
discussing
this
and
we
knew
it
was
an
issue
for
our
citizens
and
Beaufort
County,
greater
citizens
as
well,
and
how
we
might
be
able
to
partner
on
that.
So,
yes,
we
we
agree,
and
we
know
the
county
is
looking
into
it
and
making
plans
on
Doc
improvements
and
ramp
improvements
as
well.
I
It
was
at
the
chair
of
Riley
Hook's
house,
and
we
looked
at
that
today,
and
it
appears
that
you
know
on
a
high
tide
or
near
high
tide
you
can
get
in
and
out
of
there
potentially
you
know
would
require
more
exploration
anyway.
I'm
just
throwing
ideas
out
there
that
personally,
as
a
person,
that's
lived
here
a
long
time
going
down
to
our
boat
landing
I
was
there
Monday
with
my
boat
and
I,
tried
to
never
put
my
boat
in
on
the
weekends
ever
in
Bluffton,
it's
a
zoo
down.
I
There
and
you've
got
kayakers
you've
got
paddle,
boarders,
you've
got
people
walking
around
you've
got
your
tumors
business,
and
now
you
got
it
looks
like
an
airline
strip,
but
you
know
Delta
getting
ready
to
take
off
in
Atlanta.
You
know
airport
because
they're
just
backed
up
one
behind
the
other.
You
know
we
don't
have
the
best
method.
Anyway,
we
have
to
kind
of
turn
in
on
that
property
and
then
back
in
everybody
has
to
wait.
So
that's
you
know
if
it's
the
only
alternative
we'll
have
to
explore
it,
but
it's
not
the
best
alternative.
D
A
I
hadn't
looked
at
it,
but
Morgan
got
up.
He
held
up
an
old
master
plan
and
I
thought
looking
at
it
briefly.
It
showed
the
crabbing
dock
that
we
were
going
to
put
on
the
yes
Eastern
verse.
61
is
but
I
don't
see
it
on
the
capital,
dashboard
and
I,
don't
see
it
on
the
Explorer.
So
I,
don't
know
where
that
that's
old.
H
A
A
A
A
A
Have
the
ability
of
some
to
take
some
kayak
use
off
of
Oyster
Factory
I?
Don't
think
it's
going
to
take
the
paddle
clubs
I,
don't
know
but
I
think
you're
here
and
think
of
other
ways
without
creating
potential
conflict
with
water,
sports,
I.
Think
I,
don't
know
I,
don't
those
are
it's
kind
of
my
thoughts
on
it?
Are
you
done?
I
was
waiting,
I'm
done
you
and
then
Fred
had
a
question
and
I
didn't
know.
If.
F
So,
going
back
to
what
mayor,
Selco
Riesling
said:
yes,
it's
there's
current
conflict
there
in
terms
of
the
multiple
uses
in
accessing
for
it.
However,
we
we
started
out
being
restrictive
and
I
say
we
as
a
town
started
being
restricted
in
terms
of
the
amenities
that
could
be
there
and
I.
Don't
think
consideration
was
ever
given
to.
F
F
F
G
G
Now
in
this
space
it
has,
it
doesn't
have
the
capacity
to
to
accommodate
even
boat
ramping.
If
you
will
it
really
it's
those
it's
it's
too
small
and
it's
too
congestive
for
for
even
that
Recreation
but
I
think
maybe
outside
the
box
we
can
say
it
was
a
day
for
kayaking
only,
and
maybe
that
is
an
easy
fix
until
we
can
find
a
better,
a
better
location.
A
G
A
B
First,
off
I'll,
probably
save
you
all
some
time,
I've
paddled
in
that
Creek
by
the
Riley
house,
you're
going
to
have
people
stuck
out
on
the
main
water.
It's
it's
just
we've
been
out
there,
that's
where
we
that's
where
we
find
all
the
trash
yeah
yeah.
So
it's
it's
not
it's
not
a
very
viable
launch
spot
two.
B
You
know
we're
also
boaters,
you
know
we're
not
just
paddle
like
rabbit
boaters,
we're
out
all
the
time
and
you
when
I,
you
know
when
I
see
a
paddled
dock
in
a
in
a
boating
dock
together,
it's
it's!
It's
it's
chaos
yeah!
So
it's
I
highly
recommend
finding
a
way!
That's
that
it's
that
is
separate,
just
keep
it
clean!
I
mean
if
you
can,
if
you
can
explore
the
the
cold
pass
by
I,
think
that's
I,
think
that's
pretty
I
mean
it
makes
sense,
especially
very
existing
crab
dot
plant
s.
B
A
About
because
listening
to
Bridget,
you
know
it
is
a
big
Sport
and
I
I
100
on
your
page
on
that,
like
separating
the
love,
the
passions
of
how
you
get
on
the
river,
even
though
you
may
carry
both
passions,
you
can't
do
both,
but
how
do
we
look
at
maybe
working
with
the
county
on
all
of
them?
How
about
all
joy
with
some
mini
kayak
dock?
If
we
have
some
place
here
that
could
be
better.
If
we
can
create
it,
I
don't
know
Calhoun
Street
talk.
Can
we
not?
A
D
C
A
Right
ramp
that
goes
right
down
a
shorter
distance
to
the
beach
than
and
Marvin
Garvey
can
I
make
a
suggestion
on
your
proposed
kayak
drop
off.
Can
you
just
picture
yourself
right
there
on
a
Saturday
when
all
the
boats
are
already
lined
up
at
the
parking
lot?
And
now
we
have
kayak
trying
to
get
out,
and
you
have
boats
trying
to
get
in
and
boats
trying
to
get
out,
I
think
that's
a
horrible
location
for
a
drop
off
just
not
just
not
too.
A
I
I
I
think
you
can
tell
everybody
up
here,
is
in
your
camp
and
empathizes
with
you
and
we
just,
but
we
want
a
good
place
and
we
want
it
in
the
right
place
and
a
safe
place
and
and
again
I'm
anxious
to
hear
what
the
counties
envisioning,
because
and
to
your
point
mayor
as
big
of
a
county
as
we
are,
you
know,
egress
or
Ingress
by
water.
I
mean
water
is
everywhere
around
us
in
the
low
country,
and
we
that
should
be
part
of
our
theme.
I
I
F
Thank
you
mayor,
so,
going
back
to
an
idea
that
you
pose
earlier
I
want
to
hear
Pat
from
you,
your
thoughts
on
being
able
to,
because
you
did
a
great
job
here
with
this
presentation
and
being
able
to
replicate
the
same
thing
and
using
the
location
as
the
Wright
family
or
the
Calhoun
area.
In
terms
of
you
say,
you
know,
you're
going
to
have
to
retrofit
it
to
make
it
work.
What
would
that
look
like
in
terms
of
if
this
is
out
of
the
picture?
D
D
F
Is
in
in
Bluff
in
Bluffton,
though,
like
that's,
that's
a
nightmare
everywhere,
because
even
even
Oyster
Factory
like
no
one's
able
to
park
there
on
when
it's
a
day,
people
are
accessing
because
we
not
only
have
those
accessing
for
water
purposes,
but
you
put
an
event
down
there
at
the
same
time,
and
you
know
so
I
think
that's
going
to
be
an
issue
regardless
I.
Think,
though,
the
if
we're
able
to
gain
a
benefit
from
it
on
knowing
that
parking
might
be
limited.
F
C
I
D
A
Isn't
that
wouldn't
that
come
before
any
new
project
on
our
CIP
list,
unless
we
decided
to
rearrange
it?
Wouldn't
that
actually
be
sooner
than
something
brand
new
and
you
heard
Morgan
I
mean
I,
think
he
said,
mixing
his
thoughts
are
mixing
voting,
docks
and
kayak
docs
could
almost
not
work.
So
if
we
looked
at
the
crabbing
dock
to
solve
the
same
problem,
then
that
falling
around
2025
too
or
six
design.
D
And
it'll
be
it'll
all
be
dependent
on
whether
or
not
they
allow
us
to
have
that
dock
off
of
a
20-foot
access
number
one,
and
the
other
thing
is:
how
does
that
work
in
relation
to
the
docket
of
Bluffton
Seafood
Company,
which
is
being
worked
on
I?
Think
now
or
has
been
permitted
so
there's
space
there?
We
have
to
deal
with
that's
why
we
looked
at
it
more
as
a
crabbing
Dock
at
the
time,
because
we
thought
it
might
be
difficult
to
permit,
but
again.
A
A
D
I
H
C
H
H
Coordination
meeting
so
we'll
bring
this
up
and
I
already
reached
out
to
Jared's,
and
he
knows
that
this
is
an
interest
for
us,
but
in
general,
we're
hearing
from
both
our
stakeholders
and
from
you.
Let's
not
really
move
forward
so
much
on
these
designs
and
stop.
Let's
look
at
Alternatives
how
we
can
coordinate
with
the
county
better
where
they
are
and
just
come
back,
and
perhaps
this
is
well.
Perhaps
this
is
something
we
bring
to
you
in
strategic
planning,
then,
because
another
quarterly
Workshop
would
be
October.
Strategic
planning
is
November
and
that'll.
A
You
if
Morgan
is
going
to
be
the
spokesperson
or
if
we
can
get
multiple
emails,
that
they
understand.
I
read
your
public
comment,
I
mean
because
he
did
it
online.
It's
really
great
information,
I
wouldn't
know
about
so
can
we
make
sure
Morgan's
kind
of
in
the
loop
what
the
plans
are
and
then
he
can
pass
it
along.
Definitely.
I
One
last
observation-
and
you
probably
have
already
thought
of
this
when
you
speak
with
the
county
again,
you
know
it's
just
like
the
boats.
If
you
have
very
few
and
you
have
very
limited
places
like
everybody
comes
to
the
Oyster
Factory,
you
know
everybody,
it's
a
magnet
right,
but
if
you
had
more
places
you
could
spread
more
out,
especially
with
kayakers
and
paddle
boards
as
well.
So
when
we
talk
to
them,
it's
not
just
a
Bluffton
problem,
it's
a
county
problem
or
issue
that
needs
to
be
addressed.
A
Like
I
wrote
in
an
article,
you
know
it's
constant
reminding
of
safety,
but
all
of
our
all
of
us
are
grown
up
now.
Our
kids
are
on
the
water,
so
it's
and
we're
not
leaving
so
not
only
are
new
people
coming
in,
but
we
have
young
people
growing
up
that
want
to
benefit
from
what
they
saw
as
children
and
we
have
I
could
name
I
mean
we
have
Buckingham.
We
have
the
bridge
right
there
at
painting,
yellow
we
have
any
Island.
We
have
Sawmill
Creek,
all
joy
they're
doing
now.
A
That
would
be
fabulous
and
creating
more
parking.
We
have
us,
we
have
New
River.
We
have
a
place
I'm
all
about
a
rowing
Center.
We
would
have
to
Dedicated
Charlotte
by
the
way,
but
I'm
all
about
I
would
love
something
like
that
in
on
this
side
of
the
bridge.
So
y'all
stay
active
and
come
as
a
group,
because
you
make
a
difference.
It.
C
H
A
H
On
it,
he
knew
it
better
than
anyone
else.
This
one
will
be
a
little
bit
of
an
easier
lift.
This
is
more
for
information
than
for
input,
and
what
we
wanted
to
discuss
with
you
this
evening
is
what
our
plans
are
for,
assessing
comprehensively
the
ongoing
drainage
issues
we
see
in
the
Buck
Island
Road
in
simmonsville
areas,
and
this
will
be
under
Dan's
tutelage
and
guidance
as
project
manager
moving
forward.
H
So
any
technical
questions
Dan
can
tell
you
because
he
just
went
through
this,
so
the
comprehensive
drainage
plan
is
a
newer
project
that
we
have
put
into
the
CIP
and
really
this.
This
accomplishes
two
missions
for
us,
one
for
our
ms4
for
our
Municipal
separate
storm,
sewer
system,
assessment
of
our
infrastructure
and
an
asset
inventory.
What
do
we
have?
Whose
is
it
what's
its
condition?
Does
it
need
to
be
maintained?
Does
it
need
to
be
upsized
upgraded
and
again?
Is
it
ours
or
somebody
else's
to
inform
them
of
that?
H
So
that's
the
overall
scope
of
the
potential
comprehensive
drainage
plan
projects
moving
forward
and,
as
I
said,
the
goals
that
these
assessments
really
are
to
see.
Are
they
functioning
as
they
should?
We
know
we
have
aging
infrastructure.
The
town
still
has
very
little
drainage
infrastructure
that
we
truly
own
the
most
most
of
it's
private
and
or
County
or
dot.
So
how
do
we
get
them
to
the
table
to
do
this
as
well
again?
These
are
ongoing
issues.
We've
discussed
for
a
long
time.
H
After
doing
that
inventory
and
assessment,
another
goal
is
to
run
through
a
hydraulic
hydrologic
model,
an
H
H
model
and
the
whole
point
of
that
is
under
changing
current
and
changing
weather
patterns
and
conditions
and
looking
forward
into
sea
level
rise
scenarios
is
the
existing
infrastructure.
If
it's
maintained
adequately
going
to
convey
those
storm
events
or
not,
or
does
it
need
to
be
upsized
so
think,
Forward
Thinking
as
well?
H
What
this
will
also
create
for
us
is
a
list
of
that
are
then
spin-off,
individual
drainage
projects,
not
unlike
the
one
that
Dan
completed,
which
is
the
Buck
Island
drainage
and
flood
Improvement,
to
help
prevent
the
flooding
from
the
100
Year
storm
event
of
Mr
jenkins's
property.
Clearly
we
still
know
with
the
Wetland.
It's
not
going
to
address
that.
There
are
other
issues
that
we
need
to
to
assess
out
there
and,
as
I
said,
also
informing
other
asset
owners
of
the
maintenance
need.
H
That's
what
we're
proposing
to
do
and
I'll
show
you
the
the
scope
in
just
a
second
in
this
fiscal
year
for
the
buck,
Island
simmonsville
area,
but
a
picture's
worth
a
thousand
words.
Dan
has
just
completed
this
for
the
Hayward
Cove
area,
which
was
a
very
large
drainage
basin,
believe
it
or
not,
some
of
the
deliverables
that
he's
gotten
from
this
particular
assessment
is
really
going
to
be
important
in
our
again
collaboration
with
the
county
and
Dot
for
maintenance,
as
well
as
CIP
projects
and
potentially
informing
some
future
CIP
projects
for
ourselves
as
well.
H
So,
specifically,
what
we
got
out
of
this
are
the
stormwater
asset
ownership
map.
Who's
got
what
what
is
a
potential
CIP
project
map,
what
needs
to
be
upsized
or
retrofitted,
also
looking
at
an
asset
maintenance
project
map
again,
who
needs
to
do
what
and
then
this
is
where
it
gets
really
interesting
in
running
those
models,
if
you're,
maybe
a
geek.
Like
me,
it's
interesting
right.
It's
looking
at
a
100
Year
storm
event.
What
is
proposed
to
be
improved
via
maintenance
or
CIP
versus
existing
condition?
Inundation
Maps!
H
These
are
your
hurricane
scenarios
you're,
you
know,
or
even
have
some
of
the
heavier
rainstorms
we've
been
seeing
lately
what's
going
to
flood
now,
if
we
don't
maintain
it
and
if
we
maintain
it,
where
will
we
contain
the
flooding
too
and
then
the
future
forecasting
looking
for
if
we
continue
with
making
all
of
those
improvements
and
we've
done
them?
What,
if
we
put
two
feet
of
sea
level,
rise
on
a
100,
Year
storm
event
on
the
back
end
of
it?
Where
would
this
area?
H
Where
would
these
areas
flood
and
that
helps
to
inform
some
of
our
policy
decisions
on
where
we
control
growth
and
where
we
control
setbacks?
Because
if
we're
putting
people
In
Harm's
Way
at
the
least,
we
can
inform
them.
You
are
at
flood
risk
under
these
conditions.
So
what
does
that
look
like
this?
Is
a
funky
orientation
to
try
and
get
it
a
little
bit
bigger
on
on
the
on
the
screen.
You
can
see
the
May
river
is
actually
over
to
your
left
hand,
side.
H
So
if
it
were
spun,
it
would
be
the
north
arrow
is,
you
can
see
pointing
to
the
upper
right
hand.
Corner
is
the
area
that
was
assessed
by
the
consultants,
and
you
can
see
we
we
have.
We
have
the
historic
district
with
Town
Hall
we're
coming
all
the
way
up
into
the
library
area.
We've
got
Lake
Linden,
it's
a
it's
a
big
area
that
was
that
was
undertaken
and
out
of
that,
there's
no
way
you're
going
to
see
it.
This
is
why
it's
great
folks
can
access
this
online,
because
these
points
are
way
too
little.
H
But
what
this
showed
us
is
our
stormwater
asset
ownership
map
and
what
we're
pointing
out
is:
what's
County,
what's
private,
what's
dot,
what's
town
of
Bluffton?
What's
the
school
district
and
property
parcels
and
the
blue
line
is
again
the
scope,
the
geographic
scope
of
the
Hayward
Cove
limit.
So
this
helps
us
again
say
who's
responsible.
H
H
And
that
feeds
into
the
the
easy
fixes,
the
maintenance
and
same
idea
what
what
was
seen
standing
water
and
sediment
action
clean
it's
the
most
significant
priority,
something
that
little
but
depending
on
where
it
is,
and
that
guy's
down
in
this
area
right
in
here,
which
is
really
congested
with
a
lot
of
nodes
coming
to
it.
These
are
regular
maintenance.
This
information
we
can
feed
to
our
partners
at
the
County
DOT
and
the
school
district
so
that
they
can
start
working
it
into
their
operating
budgets
and
potential
Capital
budgets
as
well.
F
F
Right
because
I
know
limited
resources
too.
You
know
right
because
I
know
that
the
areas
in
particular
that
they
have
responsibility
over
maintaining
are
some
of
the
first
to
suffer
from
the
flooding
when
we
have
extreme
conditions-
and
it's
always
always
a
nightmare
with
that,
and
so
I
just
don't
want
it
to
be
as
we're
doing
our
work
here
and
getting
things
situated,
that
they
drop
the
ball
and
that
kind
of
goes
for
nothing
and
our
residents
are
still
kind
of
stuck
with
you
know
with
that.
You
said:
D.O.T.
I
I
H
They
have
been
at
a
higher
level.
This
is
information
at
the
least.
We
can
feed
to
them
and
get
so
that,
if
they're
not
doing
as
detailed
an
assessment
and
Analysis
as
we
are
we're
doing
the
work
for
them
and
providing
it
to
them
where
they
do
have
Crews
to
schedule
it
we're
kind
of
in
a
different
position.
We've
got
this
part
of
it,
but
we've
we've
got
Derek
so
we'll
have
to
Outsource,
probably
a
lot
of
this
maintenance
in
and
especially
if
it's
an
upgrade
so
and
or
we
can
hire
the
county.
G
Bridgette
point
is
I,
mean,
is
spot
on
there's
only
so
far.
We
can
go
yes,
sir.
Taking
the
leadership
is
important
for
us,
but
because
I
mean
we
already
seen
and
for
the
last
15
years
the
county
is
not
doing
anything.
D.O.T
is
not
doing
anything.
The
state
is
not
doing
anything,
but
I
will
leadership
might
help
bring
them
to
that
compromise,
where
we
do
where
we
do
some
of
it
together,
especially
if
now
that
the
town
is
willing
to
do
its
share
and
above.
C
F
F
It's
now
compounding
because
they're
getting
what
they
normally
would
get
and
all
of
that
runoff
from
there.
How
do
we
intervene
to
assure
that
that
doesn't
happen
because
I
remember
remember
an
instance
from
last
year
and
I
mean
it
was
like
Hurricane
Hugo
all
over
again
in
in
someone's
yard,
because
of
that.
H
So
at
the
development
permit
scale,
we
can
because
we're
looking
at
the
mass
grading
it's
harder
on
individual
Lots,
because
we
haven't
reviewed
that
and
part
of
that
is
part
of
the
development
review
process
and
the
neighborhood
residential
in
general,
that
it
doesn't
have
the
planned
unit
development
on
it.
So
it's
mostly
controlled
through
just
permitting
through
growth
management,
where
storm
water
doesn't
even
lay
eyes
on
it.
H
It's
usually
disturbing
such
a
small
amount
of
area
that,
at
the
at
the
regulatory
state
level,
were
not
even
required
to
lay
eyes
on
it,
and
it
was
the
discussion
we
had
at
the
Buck
Island
simmonsville
neighborhood
community
meeting
the
initial
outset,
one
of
drainage
and
are
we
reviewing
projects?
Yes,
we
review
projects,
but
when
somebody
is
putting
two
three
four
mobile
homes
on
a
lot
which
they're
allowed
to
by
zoning
stormwater
is
not
reviewing
that
and
so
I
guess
the
the
way
we
could
do.
F
F
You
know
just
kind
of
like
that
consideration
to
their
neighbors
and
there's
one
particular
property
where
of
course,
you
know
two
or
three
mobile
homes
might
not
trigger
it,
but
these
are
properties
where
people
are
purchasing
in
collection,
and
it's
now,
like
eight,
you
know
mobile
homes
or
like
10,
you
know
going
on
it
right,
and
so
that
is,
and
so,
if
you're
doing
that
and
you're
pushing
you're
building
your
property
intentionally
to
have
all
of
that
run
back
off
to
someone
whose
value
is
just
one
home.
It's
a
huge
huge
problem.
H
A
J
And
that's
like
Kim
said:
there's
a
lot.
The
way
we
Define
what's
considered
development
when
it's
for
homes
on
one
person,
it's
it's
explicitly
exempt
from
those
development
requirements.
So
there's
some
things
that
we
could
look
at
like
she
said
on
what
constitutes
quote
unquote
development
and
then
triggers
additional
reviews,
or
things
like
that.
J
So
there's
certainly
a
lot
that
we
could
look
at
to
address
it
because
we've
been
talking
about
that
issue
of
kind
of
fat,
stacked
approach
where
it's
one
home
may
be
okay,
but
then
two
and
then
three
and
then
four,
and
how
do
we?
How
do
we
make
sure
that
it
doesn't
negatively
impact
right?
So
we
definitely
acknowledge
it.
Every.
A
Home
people
who
build
in
some
I
mean
you
don't
really
like
where
I
live,
I
I
thought
that
was
true
everywhere
you
got
to
keep
your
rainwater
on
your
lot.
I
didn't
realize
that
was
because
eons
ago
somebody
developed
some
kind
of
plan
that
said
that,
but
the
homeowner
or
this
person
who's
coming
in
to
develop
it
needs
to
keep
his
water
on
his
own
lot.
So
you're
right,
it's
not
the
people
who
are
living
here.
A
H
A
E
E
E
A
H
H
Yeah
there's
a
lot
of
information
in
there.
Sorry,
it's
really
good
it's
hard
to
see
it's
exciting
Dan
held
them.
He
was
a
task
master
and
got
the
best
product
for
us.
He
was
wonderful
on
this.
This
is
where
I
think,
especially
in
just
having
the
discussion
we
did
about
land
disturbance
and
what
the
models
will
tell
us
that
we're
seeing
in
current
conditions
and
then
in
future
conditions.
So
let
me
explain
this
one
right,
quick.
The
existing
conditions
is
in
a
hundred
year,
storm
event.
H
What
is
currently
flooding
with
the
assets
that
they
are
in
their
current
state.
So
what
happens?
Is
you
go
through
and
in
the
model
you
clean
all
those
assets
up
right
they
get
blown
out.
They
get
replaced.
All
of
that
kind
of
kind
of
thing.
The
proposed
condition
is
going
to
pull
the
red
flooding
just
down
into
the
blue,
and
when
you
actually
look
back
to
let's
say
back
here,
you
can
see
that
actually
mimics
what
is
existing
as
buffers
and
undeveloped
area,
which
is
where
you
want
your
flooding
right.
H
So
again,
this
is
just
giving
us
some
confirmation
of
what
what
some
of
these
priority
maintenance
areas
are
and
or
CIP
projects
are
they're
the
red
right.
So
that
is
assume
we
do
all
of
those
projects.
Our
partners
do
all
of
those
projects
and
suddenly
this
becomes
the
proposed
condition
is
the
current
condition
so
we're
carrying
all
that
work
forward
and
now
we're
projecting
forward.
So
another
100
Year
storm
event
same
idea,
but
now
we're
putting
two
feet
of
sea
level
rise
on
the
back
end
of
it
and
a
more
intense
Hundred
Year
storm
event.
H
We
know
our
rain
is
not
the
same
today
as
it
was
even
15
20
years
ago,
and
that's
just
going
to
continue.
So
this
is
a
heavier
a
storm
event
that
will
become
the
new
Norm
for
us.
What
this
tells
us
is
the
blue
is
we
did
all
the
work
we
were
supposed
to
do,
that's
what's
flooding
when
we
have
sea
level
rise
and
more
intense
rainstorms,
the
resiliency
condition
is
now
in
red
and
what
that
means
is,
and
those
red
areas
is
where
we
should
be
putting
warnings
out
either.
H
You
shouldn't
be
developing
here,
or
we
need
more
restrictions
in
this
area.
A
higher
elevation,
it's
beginning
to
identify
those
most
vulnerable
areas
of
our
community
in
these
drainage
areas.
That
we
know
will
be
impacted
in
the
future
and
so
that
this
is
what
begins
to
inform
what
policy
decisions
we
want
to
make
moving
forward
in
a
resiliency
situation.
I
know
that's
kind
of
strange
moving
from
red
to
blue
and
then
blue
to
Red.
Does
that
make
sense
how,
with
sort
of
that
information
is
Flowing
forward
all
right?
H
Oh,
what
are
we
going
to
do
with
this
we're
going
to
do
this
area?
This
is
our
proposed
FY
24
study
area,
which
includes
Crooked,
Cove,
Gerard,
Cove
and
most
of
verdier
Cove,
so
we're
picking
up
Bluffton
Park,
which
we
know
as
flooding
conditions
as
well,
and
then
here's
Buck,
Island,
Road,
coming
up
to
wellstone
and
then
coming
over
toward
cahills
and
crooked
crooked
Cove
is
through
cahills.
So
this
drains,
this
area
drains
from
west
to
east
and
eventually
Works
its
way
down
through
crooked
Grove
by
cahills
it'll
also
pull
up.
H
This
is
getting
close
to
the
kitty
Lane
area
and
pulling
in
there.
So
it's
that
southern
half
of
Buck,
Island,
Road
and
moving
over
through
the
cemetery
and
then
also
into
Bluffton
Park.
You
know
it's!
It's
just
on
the
maps.
I
I,
it's
just
this
area!
So
that's
internal
yeah!
It's
almost
it's
almost
more
like
a
bay.
You
know
in
this
area
in
this
area,.
H
A
C
H
We
are
too,
we
are
too
so
as
we
move
forward
with
this.
As
I
said,
this
is
in
this
year's
budget
Dan's
moving
forward
with
it
he's
scoping
it
out.
Right
now,
with
the
same
consultant,
we
have
on
a
master
service
agreement
that
did
the
Hayward
Cove
study
for
us.
So
that
way,
we're
not
going
back
to
the
the
starting
point
right
and
rebuilding
everything.
We've
learned
a
lot:
we've
learned
a
lot
he's
learned
a
lot.
Our
consultant
has
moving
forward
so
received
the
proposal
and
the
cost
estimate.
A
Let's
get
started
on
the
first
one
and
see
what
happens:
I
want
to
go
back
to
after
Matthew
Our,
Town
manager
and
Brian
McAvoy
and
me
because
I
get
the
call
about
the
flooding
at
a
community,
and
it's
just
like
what
you
said
it
Bluffton
Village
was
created
which
created
a
berm
which
started
flooding
the
neighborhood
community,
but
walking
around
that
road.
We
found
just
what
you
did
10
culverts
like.
A
If
you
would
just
not
let
your
grass
grow
over
your
Culvert,
it
would
be
you
would
the
water
does
that's
a
purpose
for
it,
and
it
really
stuck
with
me
because
it's
just
to
Do's
we
can
get
out
to
the
public
to
know
you
too
can
make
a
difference,
and
it's
there
for
a
reason
not
to
be
covered
up
or
hidden,
so
I
love
it
and
I
would
love
it
to
come.
I
don't
know
when
it
could
be
months
from
now.
Okay,
but
it'd
be
a
good
well.
I
I
know
that
we
have
to
do
this
and
everybody's
looking
at
resiliency
because
of
the
changes
in
climate
I
mean
you
know:
Parris
Island,
everybody
else.
It's
a
big,
it's
a
big
thing,
city
of
Beaufort.
You
know
everybody's
having
to
deal
with
this
and
these
Hundred
Year
events
could
be
more
frequent.
I,
don't
know
what
the
frequency
is
today,
but
it's
not
like
it
used
to
be
10
20
years
ago.
It's
frequent
but
I!
I
The
proposed
budget,
for
that
is
50
to
60
million
dollars
to
fix
it
and
that's
in
today's
dollars
that
we
don't
have
and
then,
when
you
get
to
this
it'll,
be
interesting
to
see
how
we
deal
with
this
when
those
numbers
stack
on
top
of
those
numbers,
etc,
etc.
We've
got
some
major
challenges
ahead
of
us
in
the
future.
I.
H
Think
the
one
really
good
opportunity
that
comes
out
of
those
because
they
are
expensive
is
that
this
begins
to
give
us
the
backbone.
We
need
to
start
going
after
resiliency
grants
and
so
as
Dan's
working
on
the
impervious
surface
restoration
projects
that
that
councilman
would
just
referenced
specifically
we're
looking
in
the
headwaters
right,
looking
more
for
water
quality,
regardless,
if
you're,
if
you're
keeping
that
water
on
site
and
getting
it
back
in
the
ground,
and
it's
not
running
off
you're
helping
water
quality,
but
potentially
also
helping
water
quantity,
which
is
flood
reduction.
H
So
when
we
start
running
these
H
models,
which
actually
a
lot
of
these
impervious
surface
areas,
have
had
the
modeling
done
on
them
a
little
bit
of
a
different,
a
little
bit
of
a
different
recipe
for
doing
a
model,
but
same
idea.
That's
what
put
these
impervious
surface
areas
out
there
at
the
Forefront
for
restoration.
H
So
if
we
can
tie
these
together
and
then
also
nature-based,
Solutions
and
green
infrastructure,
there
are
grants
out
there
for
these
types
of
best
management
practices,
projects
that
will
help
and
especially
if
we
can
couch
it
in
resiliency
we're
just
starting.
Since
it's
the
new
fiscal
year,
we've
reached
out
to
sea
Grant
already
to
help
get
that
resiliency
plan
and
study
and
assessment
for
our
community
as
a
whole
underway.
We
will
have
an
overall,
really
I,
think,
appealing
package
and
story
to
to
help
us
get
grants.
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A
I
H
E
I'll
say
one
of
the
reasons
we
wanted
to
bring
this
tonight
was
to
get
you
an
idea
of
where
we
are,
but
also
in
the
conversation
that
we
had
and
some
of
the
issues
we've
seen.
Is
we
wanted
to
prioritize
that
Crooked
Creek
in
the
south
of
Buck
Island
as
our
next
Target
area,
because
we're
still
trying
to
work
through
how
we're
going
to
work
on
that
drainage
in
that
area,
outside
of
what
we've
done
and.