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SOUTHERN LOWCOUNTRY REGIONAL BOARD MEETING - September 26, 2023 at 10 AM
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B
Yeah
is
that
working
yeah,
okay
good
morning,
everyone
thank
you
for
joining
us
today,
just
as
a
so
I,
don't
forget,
because
I
will
just
one
announcement
there's
going
to
be
an
affordable
housing
Symposium
on
Monday
November
13th
from
8
30
to
12
30
at
the
Port
Royal
sound
Foundation,
Maritime,
Center,
Senator
Davis
is
going
to
be
there.
B
It
is
being
sponsored
and
hosted
by
the
Community
Foundation
of
the
Lowcountry.
So
for
those
of
you
who
brought
your
calendars
and
interested
in
that
there
will
be
the
event
is
free,
but
seating
will
be
limited.
I
believe
there
will
be
some
invitations,
Weston
Police.
Thank
you.
Come
on
come
on
up
Bill's
up
here.
B
Okay,
they're
gonna
send
out
an
invitation.
Next
week
you
have
the
RSVP.
Seating
is
limited,
so
for
all
those
interested
please
RSVP
right
away
when
you
get
the
invitation
next
week.
B
First
of
all,
I'd
like
to
welcome
and
introduce
two
of
our
Representatives
from
from
the
state
house
representative,
Weston
Newton
from
Bluffton
and
representative
Bill
Hager
from
Jasper
County,
also
entering
very
soon
I'll
introduce
him
Senator,
Tom
Davis's
walking
around
the
corner
right
now.
So
if
anybody
has
a
song,
they'd
like
to
sing
while
I'm
I'm
trying
to
stall
for
a
couple
of
minutes
before
we
get
started,
but
I
do
have
by
way
of
introduction.
B
Tom
Senator
Davis
knows
most
of
this
anyway,
from
what
I
know
of
local
history.
30
years
ago,
Bluffton
and
hardyville
combined
we're
approximately
six
square
miles
and
probably
around
2
000
people
fast
forward.
30
years
to
today,
Bluffton
in
Hardeeville
are
over
a
hundred
and
ten
square
miles
and
estimated
to
be
approximately
45
000
people
and
that
doesn't
include
the
developments
that
it
happened
in
those
30
years
in
unincorporated,
Beaufort
County
like
Sun
City
and
the
other
gated
communities
on
278..
B
What
came
with
that?
Is
commercial
interest,
drive
down
278
I'm
sure
that
looks
a
lot
different
than
it
did
30
years
ago
and
with
all
that
comes
the
need
for
Services
everybody
who
comes
here
and
they
want.
They
want
restaurants,
they
want
Health
Care,
they
need
all
kinds
of
Trades.
B
That
means
we
continue
to
build
houses
to
accommodate
that
and
those
houses
also
now
come
with
school
children.
We
need
schools,
the
cycle
of
development,
we
all
know
it,
we've
all
seen
it.
It
has
brought
to
us
what
we
are
today
and
it
will
continue
in
the
next
30
Years
every
one
of
these
things
I
just
mentioned,
and
we
all
know
bring
pressure
onto
our
roadways,
I
think
more
than
anyone,
Jared
frailix
seems
to
have
a
a
good
vision
of
what
we
will
need
in
the
next
30
Years
to
accommodate.
B
What's
happened
in
the
past
30
years
and
we'll
continue
the
next
30
Years.
So
this
board
has
asked
Jared
to
give
us
a
his
overview
of
what
the
needs
the
roadway
needs
of
Jasper
and
Beaufort
County
will
be
for
the
next
30
Years.
The
presentation
is
about
30
minutes.
The
question
and
answers
that
will
follow
afterwards
are
for
Jared
to
clarify
anything.
That's
involved
with
us.
We've
invited
all
of
our
state
representatives
and
Senators
to
come
and
hear
this,
and
it
will
also
be
filmed
and
I'll
send
it
to
him
afterwards.
B
C
C
All
I'm
going
to
talk
about
is
the
roads
part,
but
my
hope
is,
by
the
end
of
the
day,
you
at
least
can
breathe
the
Sigh
relief
that
we
have
a
plan
that
we're
not
wandering
aimlessly
and
that
you
can
provide
that
plan
to
others
when
asked
so
one
easier
worries
and
then
two
I
want
to
be
able
to
provide
you
confidence.
So,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
like
I
said,
you're
going
to
have
a
plan,
it's
not
Jared
frayless
plan.
This
is
our
plan.
C
What
we
have
in
front
of
us
over
the
next
30
years
and
you're
going
to
be
able
to
speak
to
that.
So
when
a
constituent
calls
you
or
asks
you
it's
like.
Yes,
we
do
have
a
plan,
and
here
it
is
so
that
is
my
overall
goal
as
I
Was
preparing
this
presentation.
Today,
though,
I
was
thinking.
What
am
I
going
to
say
to
say,
like
I'm,
used
to
talking
in
front
of
our
Council
but
talking
in
front
of
a
whole
bunch
of
elected
officials.
This
is
a
difference,
different
game
for
me.
C
So
anytime,
there's
a
life
issue.
I
always
go
back
to
miss
Sally,
Fields
and
Bubba
Gump
or
Mama
Gump,
and
our
mama
yeah
Forrest,
Gump
Mama
gum
and
she
always
has
wise
words
to
say
so:
Elizabeth
and
Jessica.
If
y'all
could
go
to
the
next
slide
or
I.
Guess
that's
me,
but
if
you
can
pull
up
the
we'll
see
if
this
works,
if
not
I'll
just
talk
from
it.
C
So
Engineers
training
there's
two
tests
that
you
have
to
take
to
become
an
engineer.
The
first
is
an
Effie
fundamentals
of
engineering,
so
you
do
that
kind
of
right
out
of
school
and
the
second,
after
four
years
of
working
under
engineer
as
apprenticeship,
you
can
take
the
PE,
the
professional
engineering
exam.
So
this
is
your
first
step,
your
engineering
and
training,
how
many
people
room
show
hands.
So
this
is
everybody,
but
up
here
on
on
the
bias
first
have
said:
I
do
not
know
why
there
is
not
a
stupid
signal
at
this
or.
C
Yes,
so
everybody's
driven
around
everybody's,
like
why
can't
we
just
have
a
signal
and
a
signal
is
great
A
lot
of
times,
but
maybe
it's
not
always
the
best
answer.
So,
let's
keep
you've
passed
the
first
step.
Let's
go
to
the
next
step.
This
right
here
is
a
two-lane
road.
Can
anybody
guess
how
much
road
traffic
that
two-lane
road
can
carry?
What's
its
Max
just
in
rough
numbers
per
day,
30
000.
any
up
here,
twelve
thousand
twelve
thousand.
C
D
C
C
H
C
C
Secondly,
second
question:
so
this
right
here
is
a
standard
intersection.
You've
got
two
two
roads
to
bisecting
one
another
and
what
this
is.
This
is
a
graphic,
a
conflict,
a
conflict
diagram.
So
what
it
says,
each
dot
is
a
different
type
of
incident,
so
you
can
either
have
a
cross
where
you
hit
somebody
broadside
or
you
can
merge
into
them.
So
you
can
see
right
there
that
there's
32
potential
conflict
points
on
a
regular
intersection.
C
The
one
on
the
left,
the
one
on
the
right
all
right.
Well
so
the
one
on
the
right
is
safer
because
it
says
it
right
there
at
the
bottom:
32
conflicts
versus
18
conflicts,
so
I'll
save
my
sucker
because
I
keep
hearing
chairman
passing
the
answer.
So
here's
my
question
any
guesses.
What
that
intersection
on
the
right
is
called.
C
Safer,
that's
a
good
Michigan,
where'd
Michigan,
that's
right,
Michigan
left
or
an
R
cut,
so
Engineers
are
not
that
out
of
the
box
thinkers
as
far
as
coming
up
with
names.
Any
idea
what
our
cut
stands
for.
Rci,
don't
answer,
reduce
conflict
intersection.
Doesn't
that
make
sense,
obviously
we're
reducing
it
from
32
to
18.
reduce
conflict
intersection.
So
that
is
your
test.
I
heard
a
lot
of
good
answers
and
for
the
rest
of
the
day,
I'm
qualifying
y'all
by
proxy.
C
As
a
professional
engineer,
so
now
I
feel
a
little
bit
better
of
us
talking
So
the
plan
like
I,
said:
I'm
gonna.
My
goal
is
to
develop
this
plan
or
tell
you
about
the
plan.
It's
already
developed,
but
tell
you
about
the
plan
and
try
to
take
your
worries
away
and
I'm
going
to
do
that
by
throwing
two
case
studies
on
the
board.
So
obviously
I
was
an
engineer
in
college,
but
I
did
have
to
take
a
western
civil
civilization
class.
C
C
So
I'll,
let
you
get
your
your
bearings
to
you,
but
you
can
see
the
peninsula
there
at
the
middle
of
the
page,
go
to
the
right
that
is
Mount
Pleasant
go
to
the
left,
is
West
Ashley
and
to
the
north
there's
North
Charleston,
you
can
see
the
airport
and
even
beyond
that
is
Somerville
in
North
Charleston.
So
what's
happened
over
the
last
20
years
is
something
that
is
very
sensible
for
us
and
and
good
for
us
to
watch.
So
obviously,
Charleston
has
grown
Head
Over
Feet
over
the
last
20
plus
years.
I.
C
Let's
see
if
I
can
get
a
pointer
to
work.
I
had
the
fortunate
opportunity
to
get
my
higher
education
on
the
banks
of
the
Ashley
River
at
our
beloved
institution
at
the
Citadel.
Well,
when
I
was
there
20
years
ago,
which
that's
hard
for
me
to
remember
20
years
ago,
but
20
years
ago,
I
know
it
gets
worse.
It
gets
worse,
20
years,
you're
like
man,
that's
that's
fresh
chicken!
C
So
20
years
ago
we
didn't
have
the
opportunity
to
leave
campus
or
do
anything
except
one
occasion
we
could
run
off
campus,
but
we
were
not
allowed
to
stop.
While
we
were
running
and
I
was
like
okay,
that
sounds
good.
I
can
get
out
and
get
out
of
the
the
barracks
and
go
run,
maybe
not
the
same
as
drink
beer
or
do
what
other
students
might
do
on
a
Thursday
night,
but
I
can
at
least
go
out
and
run
so
what
we
would
do
we
would
come
out
of
the
Citadel
gate
right
here.
C
C
But
what's
happened
since
I
left
the
Citadel,
there
was
no
Upper
King
Street,
like
I
said
that
was
you
didn't
get
to
Charleston
until
you
got
down
to
to
Meeting
Street
in
Calhoun
Square,
the
tallest
building
at
the
time
was
Francis
Marion
Hotel,
which
I
think
is
eight
or
nine
stories
and
then,
as
you're
running
around
the
loop,
you
saw
the
hospitals,
which
those
are
nothing
else
was
greater
than
four
stories
20
years
ago.
You
go
there
today,
the
same
thing
at
the
bridge,
so
the
bridge
to
Mount
Pleasant
right
here.
C
It
was
a
little
bit
further
south
right
here.
Well,
I
had
the
opportunity,
as
a
sophomore,
going
into
my
sophomore
year
to
work
on
the
bridge
as
it
was
being
constructed
well
that
bridge
location
where
it
was
being
constructive,
was
right
in
the
middle
of
the
hood.
That
I
told
you
about
already
today.
If
you
drive
the
crosstown
and
you
get
on
to
17
to
go
to
Mount
Pleasant,
all
you
see
is
Tower
cranes.
C
So
what's
happened
is
there's
no
available
space
in
downtown
Beaufort,
but
they
have
redeveloped
or
Charleston.
Excuse
me
downtown
Charleston,
but
they
have
redeveloped.
And
now
you
see
cranes
and
you
see
nine-story
buildings
all
over
the
place.
Also
what's
happened
is
is
Mount
Pleasant,
so
Mount
Pleasant
really
wasn't
that
developed
at
the
time,
but
they've
they've
hold
on
so
what's
happening
in
downtown,
is
they're
redeveloping
they're
taking
the
existing
and
they're
they're,
updating
it
and
making
a
a
bigger
use
of
the
existing
site.
C
What
they're
doing
in
Mount
Pleasant
is
densifying,
so
when
I
was
there,
I
could
go
to
Mount
Pleasant
and
get
around
and
go
wherever
we
wanted
to
and
make
it
all
the
way
to
the
Isle
of
Palms.
To
that's
where
we
went
when
we
wanted
to
go
to
the
beach
on
the
weekends.
Now
it
takes
you
forever,
because
it's
so
much
population
on
Mount
Pleasant,
the
other
areas
around
so
West,
actually
they've
densified,
all
the
all
the
development
was
there,
but
it's
getting
denser,
and
this
is
not
a
bad
thing.
C
This
is
just
a
thing
thing,
so
this
is
what
happens
as
as
a
community
matures
same
thing
with
North
Charleston.
There
really
wasn't
a
lot
besides
the
Coliseum,
but
now
you
got
the
Tanger
Outlets
you've
got
you've
got
golf
there.
Topgolf
you've
got
a
whole
bunch
of
things,
so
it's
really
identifying
and
now
what
you're
seeing
is
other
areas
developing.
So
at
the
time
when
I
was
there,
Daniel
Island
was
nothing
more
than
where
they
put
spoils
to
dredge
the
river.
C
So
there
wasn't
a
lot
there,
but
now
you
go
to
Daniel
Island
and
it
is
packed
the
same
with
I,
don't
even
know
what
they
call
this
part
of
Charleston
West
of
West
Ashley
bees,
Creek
Glenn
McConnell.
That
area,
so
all
you
see,
is
apartments
and
everything
20
years
ago.
This
was
nothing.
This
was
a
blank
canvas.
This
is
now
being
developed
and
the
same
thing
with
Somerville
and
North
Charleston
and
even
I.
Don't
know
what
you
call
Beyond
Mount
Pleasant
I,
think
Awendaw.
C
But
what
you
see
is
this
natural
progression
of
the
the
downtown
area.
The
center
Hub
gets
redeveloped
and
and
grows
you
go
to
any
Metropolitan
City.
You
see
bigger,
bigger
Skyline
than
what
Charleston
has,
but
this
is
the
natural
progression
and
same
thing
with
density.
So
then
the
outer
areas
that
were
not
much
they
get
denser
and
then
the
outer
areas
that
were
nothing
start
developing.
C
So
how
does
this
look
for
us?
This
is
south
of
the
broad,
so
Hilton
Head
is
pretty
much
built
out.
So
does
that
mean
there's
not
going
to
be
any
development
for
the
next
20
years?
No,
absolutely
so
it's
going
to
follow
the
same
course
that
Downtown
Charleston
looked
now
whether
we
have
eight
story,
high-rises
or
whatever.
That
might
be
that's
to
be
determined,
but
I
can
tell
you,
there's
a
lot
of
properties
that
are
going
to
get
deconstructed
and
redeveloped
on
Hilton,
Head
and
then
in
Bluffton.
C
So
we've
had
a
lot
of
development
over
the
last
20
years
in
Bluffton,
but
there's
still
a
lot
of
parcels
that
aren't
fully
built
out
so
you're
going
to
see
more
density
start
taking
place.
All
those
all
those
puds
that
have
been
on
the
books
are
now
starting
to
fill
out
and
then
what
you
see
going
west
now
out,
west
hardyville
and
Beyond
170
is
going
to
develop.
There's
plans,
there's
puds,
but
it
really
hasn't
hit
the
road
yet.
So
this
is
a
natural
progression.
What's
interesting
about.
This
is
if
it's
really
a
20-year
timeline.
C
So
if
you
think
about
it,
Hilton
Head
was
being
built
out
in
the
70s
and
80s
that's
when
they
were
going
gangbusters
and
at
that
time
Bluffton
was
a
DOT
on
the
mat.
There
was
a
wasn't
much
besides
nickel,
Pumpers
and
and
Squat
and
Gobble.
That
was
the
only
thing
in
in
Bluffton
yeah
a
couple
speed
traps
Peppers
porch.
That
was
enough.
So
there
wasn't
much
in
Bluffton
20
years,
but
in
the
2000s.
That's
when
you
started
seeing
Bluffton
start
and
develop
and
then
now
fast
forward,
20
more
years
2020.
C
So
that's
where
you're
starting
to
see.
So
this
is
a
natural
progression.
It's
not
a
bad
thing.
It's
just
a
thing
thing:
it's
something
that
we
have
to
work
through,
going
north
of
the
Bride.
We're
going
to
see
it,
but
just
on
a
much
smaller
scale,
so
downtown
Beaufort
is
completely
built
out.
You'll
start
to
see
some
regeneration
over
the
next
25
years,
the
same
with
Rebo
Road.
It's
fully
built
out
as
well
as
Boundary
Street.
Those
areas
are
going
to
turn
over
and
get
redeveloped
into
higher
and
bigger
uses.
C
C
Ladies
Island
I
know
that's
a
dangerous
thing,
saying
density
on
ladies
Island,
but
I'm
not
talking
about
ladies
Island
proper
I'm,
just
talking
about
right
there
at
21
and
Sea
Island
Parkway
and
ladies
Island
Drive,
so
that
area
will
densify
right
there
and
that's
what
we
want.
We
want
our
our
downtowns
to
be
dense.
C
We
want
to
have
attractions
for
those
folks
to
come
to
and
then
lastly,
North
has
brought
the
developable
area
so
170
Drive
170
and
you
just
still
see
trees
when
I
drive
by
I'm,
like
how
the
heck
are
these
steel
trees,
so
they're
not
going
to
last
as
trees
forever,
because
you're
going
to
start
to
see
development,
and
it's
it's
programmed
and
planned
like
that
in
in
the
comprehensive
plan,
both
at
the
county
and
at
the
town.
So
that's
what
it
looks
like
for
us.
So
let's
go
back
to
Charleston
for
a
moment
in.
C
C
C
Now
they've
been
kicking
that
can
for
a
while,
because
it's
a
hard
project,
but
that's
what
they're
going
to
have
to
face
in
their
near
future.
Other
areas
that
are
interesting
to
see
so
Mount
Pleasant
Mount
Pleasant
again.
This
is
six
Lanes
Johnny
Dodd's
running
through
here
and
six
Lanes,
so
that's
sixty
thousand.
So
what
we're
saying
is
hey.
It
can
carry
more
than
sixty
thousand,
but
we
have
to
keep
incrementally
doing
travel
demand
management
techniques.
C
So
what
they've
done
is
they
said
we're
not
we're
not
widening
more
than
six
Lanes,
they
put
a
Line
in
the
Sand,
but
what
they
did
do
we're
going
to
continue
to
manage
it.
So
they
have
an
Adaptive
signal
technology
that
runs
throughout
that
Corridor
they've
limited
the
access
point,
so
they
have
a
frontage
road
system
and
you
can
only
get
out
at
certain
signal
locations
versus
having
free
flow
driveways
on
and
off
the
mainland.
C
So
and
then
the
last
thing
that
you're
seeing
the
last
thing
that
you're
seeing
is
even
this
eventually
when
you
have
a
significant
primary
route,
three
lanes
heavy
traffic,
a
signal
no
longer
works,
even
though
a
signal
Works
in
most
locations.
When
you
get
this,
it
introduces
too
much
delay.
There's
too
many
movements
and
the
next
iteration
is
up
and
over.
So
that's
what
you
see
down
here
is
this
is
at
hungry,
neck,
Boulevard
right
before
you
get
to
the
526
interchange.
C
So
the
reason
is
carrying
more
than
62
is
because
it
has
the
capacity
with
the
over
change
and
then
lastly,
to
kind
of
highlight
to
point
out
is
right
here.
So
this
is,
is
this
is
the
bridge
so
that
bridge
when
they
built
it
as
eight
Lanes
or
four
lanes
in
each
Direction
everybody's,
like
holy
cow?
What
this
is
never
going
to
get
filled
up,
not
in
my
lifetime
at
least
well,
you
can
see
that
it's
above
capacity
and
it
really
isn't
above
capacity.
C
It's
just
the
reason
it
can
carry
more
than
60
or
80
000
Vehicles
is
because
it
doesn't
have
any
interrupted
flow.
So
you
have
a
two
mile,
three
mile
section
where
it's
just
Bridge,
so
you
can
carry
more
flow.
So
that's
the
same
on
the
interstate
right
now
we're
working
dots,
working
on
widening
from
one
or
from
zero
to
eight.
On
that
section,
there's
sixty
thousand
Vehicles
a
day.
C
Well,
it's
a
four-lane
road,
but
it's
it's
at
capacity
because
they're
widening,
but
it's
not
as
bad
as
you
would
think,
because
there's
only
access
at
three
access
points
on
that
eight
miles.
So,
let's
fast
forward
this
to
us
so
like
I
said,
they've
got
a
four
billion
dollar
problem.
Ours
is
not
near
that
and
a
lot
of
it
there's
three
right
here
that
highlight
so
278
is
a
four-lane
road
right
here.
C
So
we've
got
four
lanes,
can
carry
how
much
40
000
right
so
so
right
here
we're
starting
to
get
close
to
that,
but
there
is
still
capacity
right
there
and
the
same
with
170..
So
forty
thousand
there's
a
little
bit
of
capacity
there.
So
all
the
development
that's
happening,
there's
still
room
for
it.
What
we
have
going
on
right
now
is
interchange
and
intersections
that
are
failing.
So
the
goal
is
to
to
do
some
short-term
fixes
on
the
inter
changes
and
inner
sections.
C
While
we
work
up
the
plans
for
the
bigger
roads,
but
right
here
just
past
this,
so
you
get
thirty
four
thousand
and
thirty
seven
thousand
combined
and
you're
at
sixty
five
thousand.
This
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
If
you
drive
into
town
any
day
of
the
week
at
seven
o'clock
in
the
morning,
you
start
hitting
traffic
right
here
at
Buckwalter.
C
So
that's
where
the
Confluence
of
all
this
traffic
is
that's
where
six
Lanes
starts
to
be
starting
to
feel
some
pressure
because
you're
greater
than
sixty
thousand
and
then
we
have
an
interchange
that
it
has
all
the
movements
you
can
ask
for.
So
we're
going
to
work
on
a
project
to
to
simplify
how
that
signal
Works
in
an
effort
to
give
some
immediate
relief
right
there,
but
it
clears
up-
and
this
makes
sense
too,
as
you're
driving
towards
the
bridge
it
clears
up.
C
The
reason
it
clears
up
is
because
people
get
off
on
Buckwalter
and
then
they
drive
on
Bluffton
Parkway.
So
when
Bluffton
Parkway
was
established,
it
was
intended
to
be
a
parallel
Road
and
that
locals
would
use
it.
That's
exactly
how
it's,
how
it's
being
functioned
and
how
it's
used,
because
if
this
did
not
exist,
you
would
have
25
000
on
top
of
forty
eight
thousand,
so
this
whole
section
would
be
stressed
a
lot
more
than
it
is
today.
C
So
the
fact
that
we
have
it
and
we've
completed
it
all
the
way
to
the
flyover
right
before
you
get
to
the
bridge
starts
making
sense
because
now
we're
at
sixty
thousand.
So
this
is
the
corridor
project,
the
300
million
dollar
Bridge
Project.
It
makes
sense
because
we're
pushing
right
now,
60
000
Vehicles
a
day
and
then
once
you
get
to
Cross
Island
Parkway
again
it
separates
and
that's
the
reason
when
you
drive
on
the
parkway.
C
C
So
again,
not
that
there's
not
work
to
do,
but
we
don't
have
the
same
pressures
that
we
have
in
in
southern
Beaufort,
County
and
Jasper
County
that
we
have
in
Northern,
Beaufort,
County
and
people
can
stop
me.
C
I
know
we
said
questions
at
the
end,
but
if
anybody
has
questions
feel
free
to
jump
in
all
right
so
30
years
ago,
where
were
we
30
years
ago
and
I
thought
it
was
fitting
to
leave
Forrest
Gump
up
there,
because
next
year
it
will
be
30
years
since
Forrest
Gump
was
was
a
film,
so
I
think
it
was
released
in
94.,
so
we're
30
years
ago.
Let's
think
about
what
Beaufort,
County
and
Jasper
County
and
all
looked
like
30
years
ago
there
was
no
exit,
8.
C
C
Okay,
we've
got
a
few
in
here
that
that
are
halfway,
local
and
so
170
was
a
two-lane
road.
Does
anybody
remember
that
from
Beaufort
all
right,
parasailing
Gateway
did
not
even
exist
or
I
skipped?
117
was
a
two-lane
road,
so
that
was
that
was
going
out
to
college
from
Jasper
County
through
Beaufort
to
Carlton
all
was
a
two-lane
road.
Parris
Island
Gateway
did
not
even
exist.
C
The
Cross
Island
Parkway
had
just
it
I
think
it
got
built
in
the
mid
90s
so
30
years
ago.
It
either
didn't
exist
or
it
just
got
constructed
and
then
sea
Pine's
Circle
was
there,
but
it
was
fresh
I
remember
going
there,
we
played
Hilton
Head
Prep
the
school
that
I
was
going
to
and
I.
Remember
my
mom
get
into
that
Circle
and
driving
around
three
times,
because
she
had
no
clue
how
to
get
off
of
the
circle.
C
Once
you
and
my
mom
is
a
saint
and
she
was
sitting
there
cussing
up
a
storm
trying
to
get
off
the
circle.
Now
it's
not
such
a
big
thing.
We
see
circles,
we
use
roundabouts
all
the
time
and
then
lastly,
there
was
no
Bluffton
Parkway,
so
was
Beaufort
County
and
Jasper
County
a
desirable
place
to
live
30
years
ago.
C
Yes,
it
was.
Is
it
still
a
desirable
place
to
live?
Yes,
it
is
well
guess
what
it
is
going
to
continue
to
be
a
desirable
place
in
30
years.
The
difference
is
all
these
projects
got
done,
and
it's
the
same
as
that
stuff
that
we're
talking
about
today.
We
just
have
different
different
people
in
the
seats
and
different
citizens
that
are
here.
So
only
a
few
of
us
have
been
here
the
30
years
to
see
this,
but
the
fact
that
we're
talking
about
the
same
roads
in
the
same
upgrades
isn't
a
surprise.
C
It's
the
same
thing
we've
been
dealing
with
for
the
last
30
years,
but
let
me
give
you
a
visual
of
what
this
looks
like.
So
this
is
a
Broad
River
Bridge.
So
there
was
sales
tax
money.
Beaufort
County
was
the
first
sales
tax,
Transportation
sales
tax
added
in
the
entire
State
in
1995
it
got
approved
by
state
legislator.
We
tried
it
in
96,
it
failed.
C
We
tried
it
again
in
98
and
it
passed,
and
our
40
million
was
the
local
Max
to
14
miles
of
widen
from
two
lanes
to
four
lanes
and
two
bridges
that
spanned
the
Broad
River
into
Jesse
Creek.
This
is
17.,
so
in
2006
there
was
another
Beaufort
County
sales
tax
for
six
years
and
152
million
dollars.
So
this
is
U.S
17
and
Gardens
corner.
C
Two
miles
of
winding
from
two
lanes
to
four
lanes:
all
the
way
up
to
Sea
Island
Parkway
back
down
south.
There
was
four
miles
of
winding
from
170,
so
from
278
to
the
traffic
circle
at
46,
as
well
as
a
pathway,
the
Bluffton
Parkway
was
finished
and
extended
all
the
way
to
us,
278
to
fly
over
as
well
as
Boundary
Street
was
the
last
project
as
part
of
that
2006
sales
tax.
So
that
was
one
and
a
half
miles
and
the
interesting
thing
about
Boundary
Street
is
we
added
two
signals.
C
It
went
from
five
signals
to
two
signals,
and
yet
we
added
capacity
and
we
added
safety,
because
the
reason
we
added
capacity
just
like
the
interstate,
the
less
turning
movements
you
have
on
the
road-
that's
how
you
manage
capacity.
So
the
obviously
a
lot
of
the
the
left
turns
in
and
out
of
the
medium
were
removed
with
the
landscape
median
Islands,
so
that
helped
traffic
go
through.
Here's
bonus
question
engineering
exam
anybody
have
any
clue
on
what
the
speed
limit
is
for
the
maximum
capacity
of
any
road.
A
C
Others
was
that
that's
that's,
probably
a
good
answer
that
the
magic
answer
is
35
miles
an
hour
and
the
reason
is
at
70
you're,
taking
a
lot
of
gap
between
you
and
the
car
in
front
of
you
at
20.
You
might
be
a
smaller
Gap,
but
you're
not
moving
fast
enough.
So
the
right
there
in
the
middle
is
35
mile
an
hour,
so
Boundary
Street
is
for
40
miles
an
hour,
so
it's
basically
getting
as
much
capacity.
C
So,
even
though
it's
still
four
four
lanes
and
we're
at
37
000
cars,
it's
got
more
capacity
built
into
it
because
of
the
speed
limit
because
of
the
limited
access
and
because
of
the
synced
up
signals
in
2018.
There's
a
sales
tax
of
the
bridge.
So
I
heard
this
interesting
quote
from
Jeff
Bezos,
the
former,
the
owner
and
former
CEO
of
Amazon.
C
They
had
just
had
a
earnings
report,
earnings
call
and
they
smashed
the
analysts,
earnings
and
everybody
was
super
excited
like
man,
great
job,
Jeff
and
and
they're
like
what's
wrong,
you
don't
look
happy,
and
you
said
well
that
quarter
we
booked
that
three
years
ago,
I'm
already
three
years
ahead.
He
lives
constantly
in
the
future.
So
for
me
not
to
say,
compare
myself
to
Jeff
Bezos,
but
278
bridge
in
my
head
is
constructed.
So
what's
our
next
projects.
So
that's
what
we're
going
to
talk
about
in
just
a
second
also,
ladies
Island.
C
That's
part
of
sales
tax
and
then
a
bunch
of
Pathways
throughout
the
county.
That's
Beaufort,
County,
well,
Jasper
County
in
2016
passed
their
own
sales
tax
for
30
minutes
over
10
years.
They've
over
collected
that
or
collected
it
faster.
So
both
Beaufort
and
Jasper
counties
do
not
have
a
transportation
sales
tax
Penny
on
the
referendum
and,
if
they
so
choose
that
that
could
help
fund
future
projects
moving
forward,
both
in
24..
C
So
this
is
Southern
Beaufort,
County
and
Jasper
I'm
sure
there
is
a
map
like
this
in
Northern,
Beaufort
County,
but
I
haven't
seen
it
Hardy
Bill
prepared
this,
and
the
whole
point
of
this
is
to
say
not
to
scare
everybody,
but
basically
from
170
to
I-95.
This
is
278
and
this
is
170..
These
are
all
the
planned
developments
and
planned
dwelling
units
in
this
region,
and,
to
sum
it
up,
there's
already
10
000
here,
Sun
City's,
adding
more
here
and
even
across
the
street
here.
C
This
is
all
at
East
Argent,
which
I
think
has
close
to
ten
thousand
dwelling
units
in
its
own.
This
is
Margaritaville
that
has
about
three
thousand
car
track
has
about
three
thousand
Morgan
track.
Has
6700
and
West
Sergeant
has
another
6400
all
in
all,
there's
like
plans
for
40
000,
more
people
in
this
area.
So
there's
a
lot
of
things
to
be
worried
and
stressed
about,
but
just
like
our
forefathers
did.
Is
we
plan
to
to
keep
this
open,
because
this
is
the
major
artery
for
the
entire
community?
C
So
the
last
thing
we
want
this
to
do
is
the
bottleneck,
so
part
of
Bluffton
Parkway
was
to
take
traffic
off
of
278,
well,
some
way
shape
or
form.
This
needs
to
continue.
So
what
we
have
is
three
really
good:
46,
Bluffton,
Parkway
and
278
that
are
carrying
East-West
traffic,
and
then
we
have
two
good
primary
routes:
170
and
Buckwalter
that
are
carrying
north-south
traffic.
So
as
as
this
area
develops,
we
need
to
look
in
some
way,
shape
or
form
to
continue
East-West
Corridor.
C
So
we
can
keep
three
just
like
we
have
over
here
and
then
at
some
form
of
fashion
in
northwest
or
north
south
Corridor,
similar
to
what
we
have
at
170
and
Buckwalter
So
the
plan.
What
is
exactly
the
plan?
Well,
the
plan
is
continue.
What
we're
doing
I
just
talked
about
all
the
projects
that
have
happened
over
30
years.
The
only
difference
is
we
have
new
people
sitting
in
the
seats
up
front
and
we
have
new
people
sitting
in
the
seats
in
the
back
So.
C
The
plan
is
exactly
the
same:
Lean
Forward
into
your
into
your
community
protect
and
improve
the
major
corridors.
So
for
us,
we've
got
to
keep
278
improved,
so
it's
improved
right
now,
all
the
way
up
to
170.
there's
got
to
be
extensions
in
the
future.
All
the
way
to
I-95
dot
is
coming
strong
with
their
project
to
improve
95
from
zero
to
eight
they're,
also
going
to
have
a
big
Improvement
at
The
Interchange.
So
we
need
to
address
that
section.
Obviously
we
already
talked
about
the
triangle
or
not.
C
We
didn't
talk
about
it,
but
everybody
knows
about
the
triangle,
so
170
278
and
Argent
Boulevard.
Those
are
those
are
the
projects
that
I'm
looking
at
278
Corridor
Bridge
Project
is
going
to
happen.
These
are
the
projects
that
we're
moving
into
fruition.
One
thing
to
again,
not
scare
you
just
this-
is
the
normal
iteration
of
development,
eventually,
the
signals
that
we're
putting
up
on
170
and
278.
C
They
may
not
last
specifically,
where
we
have
large
Ingress
and
egress
commercial,
centers
and
stuff,
so
the
next
iteration,
just
like
Mount,
Pleasant
and
hungry
neck
Boulevard
is
those
signals,
are
going
to
get
replaced
with
overpasses
and
I
know
that
sounds
scary,
but
that's
just
typical
development
and
how
things
it
doesn't
mean
it
has
to
be
a
monstrosity.
It
can
look
great,
just
think
of
the
bridge
there
at
Sun
City
they
have
a
beautiful
Bridge,
think
of
Cross
Island
Parkway
on
Hilton
Head.
C
You
don't
even
really
notice
it
that
it's
there
until
you're
on
top
of
it,
so
there's
ways
for
us
to
do
infrastructure
in
the
future.
That's
not
big
and
ugly,
but
it
it
actually
harmonizes
with
the
community
that
we
have,
but
the
simple
fact
is
in
order
to
keep
278
alive,
there's
going
to
be
interchange,
improvements
at
170
and
278,
and
there's
going
to
need
to
be
intersection
improvements
to
continue
to
provide
that
as
free
flow
access
as
we
can.
That
is
in
essence
our
Interstate.
C
We
don't
have
any
Interstate
in
Beaufort,
County
Jasper
County
has
95.
That
is
the
interstate
to
the
region,
like
I,
said,
improve
major
intersections,
so
we
know
Buck
Walter
needs
improvements.
We
know
170
and
278
that
interchange
needs
Improvement,
462
and
Argent
Boulevard
and
278
and
origin
Boulevard.
A
lot
of
these
are
already
in
the
works
so
develop
Frontage
roads.
So
on
the
2006
sales
tax,
there
were
several
frontage
road
projects
again
similar
to
Mount
Pleasant.
We
wanted
to
keep
Johnny
Dodds,
open
and
available.
We
want
to
keep
278
and
the
way
we
do.
C
That
is
not
let
everybody
have
access
to
the
road
and
they
have
to
Garner
access
through
a
Consolidated
driveway,
whether
that's
a
signalized
intersection
or
not,
and
then
plan
for
additional
connections.
So
just
like
Bluffton
Parkway
25
years
ago,
that
was
nothing.
It
was
conceived
and
we
built
out
over
the
last
25
years.
The
continuation
of
that
in
some
form
or
fashion
needs
to
continue
as
well
as
any
other,
connecting
roads
to
relieve
stress
from
the
major
roads
and
then
develop
the
long-term
local
funding.
C
What
that
is,
dot
has
State
priorities;
they
don't
always
align
with
our
local
priorities.
That's
not
a
bad
thing.
It's
just
different
levels
of
government
working
together,
so
we're
going
to
have
to
just
like
we
have
previously
Bluffton
Parkway
was
funded
by
impact
fees,
Geo
bonds
and
a
little
bit
of
sales
tax.
So
those
are
three
mechanisms
that
I
think
everybody
in
the
room
has
some
form
of
fashion
of
those
development,
impact
fees,
future
sales
tax
and
obviously
issuing
Geo
Bond
debt.
C
So
what's
the
takeaway
you
when
you
get
ass
and
you
have
constituent
that
complains
about
170
or
complains
about
278,
there
is
a
plan.
What
I
just
talked
to
you
is
the
plan
and
I
after
preparing
for
this
I
realized.
You
know
what
I'm
going
to
write
this
plan
out.
That
way,
we
can
all
have
it
in
front
of
us.
C
So
then,
then,
when
you
do
have
something,
here's
a
here's,
an
eight
page
plan-
if
you
want
to
dive
into
it,
but
the
plan
in
essence
is
make
our
major
corridors,
keep
those
improve
those
and
keep
them
healthy.
The
great
thing
is
also:
you
have
a
lats
partner,
a
partner
in
less.
This
is
not
the
group
that
has
to
be
responsible
for
roads.
There's
a
group
that's
already
set
up
for
that
and
their
work
in
the
plan,
all
the
the
road
improvements
on
278
and
170.
C
C
What
you
need
to
say
yes
and
yes,
and
are
yes,
but
so
when
most
of
time,
when
a
development
comes,
it's
a
developer,
driven
project
and
more
times
than
not,
they
have
not
bought
the
property
they're
doing
their
due
diligence
they're
putting
in
for
permits,
but
they
have
not.
They
worked
that
out
with
the
landowner
and
haven't
bought
the
property
so
when
they
come
in
for
a
zoning
request
or
whatever
they
come
in
for
a
master
plan
approval.
C
You
have
the
option
up
here
as
local
government
to
say
I
like
what
you
have
but
I
need
you
to
do
this
this
and
this,
and
if
they
don't
do
it,
then
then
that's
okay,
but
if
they
do
it
you're
at
least
getting
a
really
really
good
piece
of
development.
What
we
don't
want
is
to
say
no
and
then
somebody
come
back
and
they
build
something
that
meets
the
requirements,
but
it's
totally
not
part
of
the
community.
C
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
development
that
we
have
the
best
opportunity
and
the
best
development
that's
available
so
practice
saying
yes
and
you
then
use
the
some
form
of
conjunction
and
but
and
get
them
to
do
more
and
then.
Secondly,
this
is
the
tall
task
is
all
this
is
great
to
have
a
plan,
but
unless
there's
money
to
go
with
that
plan,
it's
just
talk
so,
like
I
said,
I
mentioned
three
sources
of
funding:
already:
development
fees
or
impact
fees,
Geo
bonds
and
sales
tax.
C
Those
are
the
three
biggest
tools
in
the
toolbox
to
develop
projects.
Then
you
can
go
after
specific
state
grants
or
federal
grants,
but
those
aren't
the
ones
that
are
leading
into
the
project.
So
you
guys
are
responsible
for
developing
this
funding
plan,
which
is
a
really
hard
task,
but
that
that's
what
you
guys
get
paid.
The
big
bucks
for.
A
D
Welcome
so
you're
what
I've
seen
over
years
with
our
town,
we
have
engineering
side,
we
have
planning
side,
and
then
we
have
a
council
that
has
to
listen
and
can't
negotiate
from
the
dice
developers.
So
if
we
all
and
so
much
money
goes
into
comp
plans,
if
we
all
just
stuck
by
the
comp
plan
and
what
all
the
work
that
the
Kevin's
and
Heathers
of
the
world
and
everyone
else
like
that
in
the
Sean's,
if
we
stick
with
it,
wouldn't
your
job
be
a
little
less
stressful.
C
Comment
on
that
and
I'm
not
saying
say
yes
to
everything
that
comes
at
you,
that's
why
we
have
a
comp
plan
and
just
just
like
170
in
the
Broad
River
Bridge,
there's
no
plan
that
I
can
foresee
in
the
next
25
or
30
years,
where
that
needs
to
be
widened
because
we've
got
so
much
preserved
in
that
area.
There's
limited
access,
so
it
can
continue
to
grow
in
traffic
and
still
be
able
to
take
on
the
traffic
that
it
has
as
demand.
So.
B
Thank
you,
Jared,
very
good.
What
we're
going
to
do
now
and
since
we
started
I,
want
to
welcome
Senator
Tom
Davis.
Thank
you
senator
for
joining
us.
What
we're
going
to
proceed
within
the
time
frames
that
we
have?
First
of
all,
this
is
for
our
state
delegation
to
here
and
so
I'm
going
to
open
up
the
question
to
the
three
of
you.
If
you
have
any
questions
of
generic
I
will
also
these.
This
is
filmed
so
we'll
send
this
on
to
your
delegation
secretary.
B
So
you
can
share
it
with
your
colleagues
and
then
after
we've
exhausted
the
questions
from
our
state
representatives.
Here
then
I'll
open
it
up
to
the
board
and
if
we
have
time
we'll
go
to
the
public,
okay,
so
Senator
Davis
Representatives.
Yes,
there's
we're
sharing,
microphones.
E
In
terms
of
the
funding
you
mentioned
essentially,
three
local
funding
sources,
impact
fees
from
developers,
Geo
bonds
and
then
also
the
sales
tax
which
needed
to
be
straight
up
or
leveraging
revenue
bonds.
E
C
Roadmap,
yeah
Charleston,
so
the
biggest
source
of
State
funding,
this
funding,
State
infrastructure
bank,
so
they're
working
through
that
there's
some
other
fun
in
either
through
D.O.T
or
some
competitive,
Grant
stuff,
but
the
biggest
fund
out
there
is
State
infrastructure
bank.
So
that's
what
we
have
on
278
project
they've
also
worked
so
they've
Charleston
County
has
a
25-year
sales
tax,
Transportation
sales
tax
they
actually
when
they
did
it
in
2004.
They
were
the
second
County
behind
Beaufort
County
to
do
Transportation.
They
did
a
half
penny
for
25
years.
C
C
So
if
there's
unforeseen
dollars
that
come
down
from
dot,
they
can
be
nimble
enough
to
ask
for
it
because
they
have
the
match
at
the
local
ground,
so
they
use
that
sales
tax
as
their
local
match
on
most
any
and
all
Transportation
projects,
I'm
not
sure
what
they
do
with
their
Geo
bonds
and
their
impact
fees,
but
definitely
with
sales
tax.
The
four
billion
dollar
plan
for
5
26:
they
will
leverage
their
local
funds
state
DOT
funds
and
make
a
presumably
asked
to
sib
funds
as
well.
C
E
More
question
regard
to
the
local
aspect:
the
impact
fees
and
I've
talked
in
the
past
with
Paul
Somerville
about
that,
and
he's
apparently
tried
for
years
to
get
the
municipalities
and
the
counties
to
work
together
on
impact
fees
that
more
closely
correspond
with
the
costs
imposed
by
development.
What
are
the
obstacles
in
the
way
of
getting
impact
fees
that
that
do
in
fact
compensate
for
the
for
the
demands
place
by
development.
C
Yeah,
so
impact
fees
are
never
going
to
pay
for
the
entire
project,
but
what
they
do.
The
way
they're
set
up
by
Statute
is
that
they
can
only
be
assessed
on
the
on
the
additional
emerging
emerging
yeah,
the
development
that
comes
the
the
existing
system.
It
can't
be
funded
to
repair
or
maintain
the
existence
only
for
new
infrastructure.
So
if
you
have
a
widening
project,
a
lot
of
that
may
be
due
to
the
new
development
and
the
impacts,
but
the
cost
of
that
widening
is
going
to
outpace.
C
The
collection
amount
that
you're
going
to
get
from
Impact.
Well,
impact
fees
have
been
really
good
for,
and
Beaufort
County
how
we've
used
them
is
to
get
a
project
started.
You've
got
to
have
some
money
to
start
the
design
and
and
preliminary
engineering,
so
that's
been
a
really
good
source
of
that
Jasper
County
I
know,
is
working
on
their
update
and
their
development
impact
fees
and
Beaufort
County
just
recently
updated
theirs.
C
The
other
caveat
on
impact
fees
is,
if
you
don't
have
it
on
the
list,
when
the
impact
fee
is
created,
then
you
can't
use
it.
So
there's
a
little
bit
of
strings
attached
to
that
as
far
as
the
uses
of
impact
fees,
but
at
least
locally
Beaufort
County
is
recently
updated
in
Jasper
County
I
know
is
working
through
that
process.
I
F
C
I
The
right,
okay
as
it
relates
to
impact
fees,
when
you
say
Beaufort
County
recently
updated.
Does
that
mean
all
the
municipalities
in
Beaufort
County
in
the
affected
area
or
on
board
and
collecting
that
same
impact
fee
as
Jasper,
County
and
hardyville?
They
I
mean
I,
guess
what
I'm
struck
with
is.
This
is
a
great
plan.
Is
it
a
plan
that
all
the
municipalities
and
the
two
County
governments
have
all
bought
into?
I
Is
there
a
collective
approach
to
say
the
price
tag
for
this
plan
is
X
and
we're
going
to
divide
that
into
into
bite-sized
pieces
that
we
can
take
a
take
a
whack
at
whether
it's
like
we
did
about
278,
immediate
short
and
long-term
needs.
I
mean
some
of
this
stuff's
not
needed
or
will
be
a
30-year
as
there's
all
the
build
out
that's
going
on,
but
is
that
going
is?
Is
the
this
notion
of
having
impact
fees
relative
to
all
of
that?
Is
that
in
place
today?
C
County,
yes,
in
Jasper
County,
there
is
no
County
impact
fee
to
date.
Okay
and
they're,
working
through
that
all
the
municipalities
have
an
IGA
in
Beaufort
County
with
the
county.
So
they
as
new
development,
comes
within
the
jurisdiction
they
are
assessed
in
the
fee.
It
is
a
county
collected
fee,
so
they'll
either.
However,
they
do
it
administratively
we'll
collect
that
fee
and
it
will
go
to
Beaufort
County
to
administer
the
projects,
but
that
process
was
coordinated
with
the
municipality,
so
the
roads
within
their
jurisdictions
are
included
on
that
Capital
project
listing
spin
funds
on.
C
Not
not
100
we're
working
towards
that
so
right
now
we're
working
we're
going
to
bring
it
through
lats.
We
have
this
Tia
ordinance.
So
when
a
development
comes
in
and
they
have
an
impact
on
traffic,
they
have
to
hire
a
traffic
engineer.
Do
a
study
that
study
a
lot
of
times
traffic
impact
traffic
impact
analysis
Tia.
So
what
they
do
is
they'll
look
at
their
traffic
and
then
just
one
intersection
up
and
down
from
their
traffic.
C
Well,
they
might
intersect,
they
might
affect
two
or
three
traffic
signals
down
and
they're,
not
looking
at
that,
because
they're
representing
their
contract
or
their
their
owner.
So
the
proposed
Tia
ordinance
is
that
we
have
a
collected
two
or
three
on-call
Consultants.
So
when
whether
it's
a
Jasper,
County
or
hardyville
or
whoever
develop,
they
can
exercise
that
on-call
list
and
have
our
local
engineer
review
it.
That
has
the
broader
scope
of
all
the
developments
in
the
community,
so
they
can
say.
C
Not
only
are
you
affecting
this
signal
you're
affecting
the
next
three,
because
this
development's
so
huge,
so
there's
not
a
overall
plan
to
date.
That
says
this
will
need
to
be
exactly
this.
This
and
this
we're
working
through
that
Latz
is
working
on
that
there's
four
access
management
studies
that
LS
is
working
on
now,
one
on
the
lower
SC
for
sc315.
C
What's
the
road
I'm
missing
there,
46
315
and
170
in
the
lower
part
of
Jasper
County
and
Beaufort
County
278
from
I-95
to
Sea,
Pines,
Circle
170
from
46th
Circle
to
Boundary
Street
in
Beaufort
and
then
Bluffton
Parkway
itself,
and
so
that
those
studies
are
going
to
be
the
groundsworth
to
what
you
just
asked
said.
So
when
the
community
comes
in
and
has
a
development,
they
can
look
on
that
study,
that's
been
adopted
by
lats
and
then
hopefully
all
the
municipalities
sign
off
on
those
studies
and
say:
okay.
C
Yeah,
so
this
is
an
ass
to
our
state
delegation.
Okay,
so
we're
working
through
to
get
them
funded
through
guide,
share
funds
and
we're
working
through
the
process
with
DOT
that
process
and
Stephanie
can
confirm
has
been
painstakingly
slow.
So,
even
though
we
have
good
intentions,
development
is
coming
and
we
can't
even
get
the
study
approved
at
dot
because
of
the
minutia
that
we're
working
through.
So
if
we
can
get
that
study
expedited,
that
would
help
us
have
a
plan
in
place.
I
C
I
Where
you
send
us
a
brief
memo,
I
expect
we
can
help
coordinate
and
try
to
move
that
forward.
To
get
to
all
members
of
the
delegation
would
would
be
helpful
and
we
can
coordinate
next
then,
with
regard
to
the
impact
fees
as
a
component
of
the
funding,
you
reference
a
couple
of
times,
the
526
estimates,
four
billion
dollars.
What's
the
number
on
this,
the
plan.
C
Is
everything
that
yet
put
up
and
talked
to?
We
don't
have
an
overall
number
I
would
say
it's
a
billion
plus,
but
it's
not
4
billion,
it's
probably
in
the
1
billion
one
and
a
half
billion
over
the
next
20
years.
Okay,.
I
And
I'm
is
that
are
y'all
continuing
to
work
through
and
try
to
identify,
I
mean.
Obviously,
some
of
these
projects
are
County
Road
projects
that
are
not
going
to
be
eligible
for
some
level
of
State
funding.
Others
will
be
I
mean
the
more.
You
know
that
you
all
begin
to
continue
this
activity,
the
more
that
we
can
become
engaged
and
start
looking
at
what
we
can
try
to
do
to
make
sure
whether
it's
funding
the
infrastructure
bank
and
then
going
and
pursuing
the
funds-
or
you
know,
monies.
C
Directly
from
Doc
so
we're
starting
just
like
you
mentioned
the
short-term
midterm
long
term,
we're
doing
that
on
every
project.
Now
so
just
like
170,
we
just
released
a
contract
at
a
contractor
into
short-term
projects
at
The
Interchange
and
at
462
and
Arjun
Boulevard.
We're
going
to
do
the
same
thing
even
for
the
triangle
project,
so
the
triangle
project
was
priority
number
one,
but
in
talking
with
hardyville
278
is
right
up
there.
So
now
we
have
a
1A
and
a
1B,
so
widening
from
I-95
to
170
on
278.
C
B
And
and
what
Wes
to
your
question,
the
Stephanie
who
heads
up
sees
our
local
representative
who
heads
up
for
atlatz
each
one
of
these
individual
projects
have
have
a
price
tag
to
it,
so
we
could
send
that
to
you
as
well.
The
triangle
has
a
price
tag:
278
has
a
price
tax
and
all
the
things
on
on
that's
the
tip
all
have
a
price
tag
right,
yeah.
C
So
the
long-range
plan,
we
can
send
you
that
too,
that
tells
all
the
projects-
that's
maybe
not
prioritized
as
as
much,
but
it
doesn't
make
it
to
the
transportation
plan
to
tip
until
it's
financially
constrained.
Until
you
have
the
money
to
say
you
can
actually
do
the
project,
it
can't
make
it
and
thus
can't
get
Federal
funding
the
great
thing.
This
is
the
great
thing
between
Jasper
County's
sales,
tax
program
and
Beaufort
County's
Transportation
sales
tax
program,
because
we
have
been
successful
in
previous
referendums,
Dot
and
Federal
Highway
views.
C
Even
though
we
don't
have
those
referendums
in
place.
They
view
that
as
reasonable
availability
of
funds.
So
if
we
have
a
200
million
dollar
project
for
the
triangle
on
there,
we
don't
have
200
million
dollars
in
the
bank,
but
we
can
still
at
least
get
it
to
the
table
to
try
to
pair
up
funds,
because
we
can
say
that
we're
going
to
have
local
funds
through
a
sales
tax.
I
Got
it
okay?
Well,
you
know,
I
I
would
never
purport
to
speak
for
the
delegation,
but
we're
here
to
help,
and
so
when
you
all
have
bureaucratic
bumps
in
the
road
with
D.O.T
and
releasing
God's
chair
I
mean
it.
It's
a
big
deal,
a
delay
in
in
trying
to
get
ahead
of
some
of
this
stuff.
Clearly,
where
we've
been
in
the
past,
tells
us
that
reach
out
I
mean
I.
I
Think
that's
what
we're
all
here
to
try
to
say
that
I
mean
I,
applaud
you,
all's
collaboration,
quite
frankly,
because
you
know
having
been
a
part
of
County
Council
in
the
in
the
late
90s,
when
we
first
started
doing
the
things
that
you
put
up
on
the
screen
earlier.
D.O.T
didn't
have
an
idea
that
U.S
278
would
need
any
improvements
for
25
years.
It
wasn't
anybody
on
anybody's
radar
screen.
So
this
is
a
tremendous
work.
Thanks.
G
And
we've
always
kind
of
been
out
of
out
of
mine
in
Colombia,
because
we're
so
far
away
down
here
we
see
that
even
within
the
power
company,
it's
just
we're
kind
of
a
redheaded
stepchild
down
here
and
so
I,
don't
know
of
anything.
I
can
add.
I
I've
been
here
a
long
time.
All
these
Whiting
projects,
Jared's
been
talking
about
I,
was
involved
with
over
the
years,
so
I'm
very
familiar
with
our
roadways
and
our
systems
so
I'm
glad
to
help
any
way
I
can
but
I.
G
B
You
and
if
there's
ever
any
additional
information
that
you
want,
we
we
can
make
sure
we
get
it
to
you
and
any
other
members
of
the
delegation
who
aren't
here
today.
So
now
we're
going
to
open
it
up
to
the
board
and
we'll
take
that
as
long
as
you
all
want
to
stay.
H
So
Jared,
you
know
the
one
thing
I
didn't
hear.
One
thing
I
heard
was
40
000
people.
What
I
didn't
hear
was
a
correlation
between
the
100
million
dollars
in
the
green
space
and
trying
to
eliminate
some
of
that.
Forty
thousand.
That
would
help
with
the
traffic
impact,
was
that
take
into
consideration.
C
Not
on
what
I
presented
from,
but
it
definitely
can
be
so
the
green
space
I
believe
just
got
approved
last
night
at
Council,
so
it
is
open
and
ready
to
accept
applications
and
so,
whether
that's
a
full
purchase
of
property
or
a
buying
the
developer
rights
so
appreciate
the
the
senator
Davis
leading
that
cause
and
having
that,
and
so
it
is
a
tool
in
the
toolbox.
Much
like
impacts
fees
or
or
sales
tax,
Transportation
sales,
tax
and
green
space
is
not
a
short-term
play.
H
Sure,
but,
but
in
protecting
and
not
having
concrete
everywhere,
you
know
how
does
that
come
into
play
and
how
can
that
protect
our
environment
and
I
also
didn't
hear
anything.
You
mentioned
anything
about
Park
and
rides,
or
public
transportation,
yep.
C
So
public
transportation,
we
have
a
public
transportation
system
right
now
with
Palmetto
Breeze.
The
issue
with
our
transportation
is:
we
do
not
have
density
and
to
make
transportation
and
pellet
Transit
really
work.
You
need
to
have
somebody
that
doesn't
have
the
desire
or
the
need
to
have
vehicle,
so
they
have
to
be
in
close
enough
quarters
where
they
can
walk
to
everything
they
need
to
whether
it's
groceries
or
job
or
whatever,
and
then
they
can
get
to
the
bus,
stop
and
ride
it
right
now
we
don't
have
that
density
so
as
Charleston
County.
C
What
they're
doing
right
now
is
they're
doing
a
bus,
Rapid,
Transit,
1.2
or
3
billion
dollar
project,
so
it's
from
Somerville
all
the
way
to
downtown
Charleston.
The
great
thing
is:
they've
got
the
need
for
it.
The
bad
thing
is
they
didn't
plan
it
20
years
ago,
so
where
we
are
we're
at
the
opportunity
where
we're
not
beyond
our
needs
for
public
transit,
so
we
can
plan
it
and
have
it
ready,
but
it
may
not
actually
be
full
service
until
we
get
more
density,
densified
areas.
H
And
lastly,
I'll
say:
I
was
up
in
Charleston
this
past
weekend
and
it
was
a
nightmare
to
drive
around
Charleston,
but
once
we
hit
Mount
Pleasant
and
we
hit
the
integrated
lights,
it
was
a
game
changer
and
we'll.
Hopefully,
ours
will
be
up
and
running
before
the
end
of
November,
but
that
really
does
make
a
huge
difference.
Yep.
F
Okay
on
the
Broad
River
Bridge,
you
said:
there's
going
to
be
no
more
Improvement
needed
for
that.
What's
the
lifespan
of
the
bridge
dot.
F
B
Anyone
else,
okay,
in
keeping
with
our
tradition
of
soloco
and
of
one
hour
we
we
have
hit
that
so
if
they're
I'm
not
opening
it
up
to
the
public,
but
if
there
are
any
questions,
certainly
you
can
email
me
tell
me
afterwards
and
we'll
get
you
some
answers,
Jared
once
again.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation.
B
Gentlemen.
Thank
you
for
joining
us.
Hopefully,
it
was
informative,
we're
trying
to
look
ahead
and
and
see
what
we
need
that.
Obviously,
it's
not
a
meeting
today
for
Solutions,
it's
a
meeting
for
looking
ahead
and
and
understanding
what
we
do
need
to
solve.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
for
joining
us
today.
Thank
you.
Everybody
for
coming.