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From YouTube: Planning Commission Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 6:00 PM Theodore D. Washington Municipal Building,
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Planning Commission
Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 6:00 PM
Theodore D. Washington Municipal Building, 20 Bridge Street, Henry “Emmett” McCracken Jr.
Council Chambers
Agenda can be found at: https://bluffton-sc.municodemeetings.com/
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A
Notice
regarding
adjournment,
the
Planning
Commission
will
not
hear
any
new
items
after
9
30
p.m.
Unless
authorized
by
majority
vote
of
the
commission
members
present
items
which
had
not
been
heard
before
9
30,
maybe
continue
to
the
next
regular
meeting
or
special
meeting
date,
is
determined
by
the
commission
members
notice
regarding
public
comments.
Every
member
of
the
public,
who
is
recognized
to
speak,
shall
address
the
chairman
and,
in
speaking,
avoid
disrespect
to
the
commission
staff
or
other
members
of
the
meeting
state.
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D
The
preliminary
development
plan
for
1268
main
River
Road,
it's
a
request
by
Nathan's
Fury
of
story,
engineering
on
behalf
of
the
property
owner
May
River,
Project
LLC,
for
approval
of
the
preliminary
development
plan.
Application
project
proposes
site
improvements
necessary
to
accommodate
conversion
of
the
site
used
from
residential
to
commercial.
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The
application
is
for
preliminary
development
plan
located
within
the
panel
historic
district
and
is
subject
to
the
center
set
forth
in
a
town,
Bluffton
unified
development
ordinance.
The
project
proposes
the
construction
of
a
concrete
apron,
gravel
access,
Drive
rain,
Garden,
gravel
parking
spaces
and
a
concrete
fan
accessible
Ada
space
to
accommodate
the
conversion
of
the
site
used
from
residential
to
commercial.
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This
is
a
May
River
Road
out
here,
and
this
would
be
a
new,
concrete
apron
24
feet
wide
coming
in
at
24
feet.
24
feet
is
the
required
width
from
the
DLC
arms
manual.
I,
believe
comes
in
comes
to
the
back,
providing
the
handicap
space
here,
two
additional
spaces
here
there
are
actually
forced
on
street
parking
spaces
here
meeting
the
parking
space
requirement.
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D
Planning
commissions
help
consider
the
criteria
set
forth
in
section
3103a
of
the
Udo
and
assessing
an
application
for
development
for
preliminary
development
plan.
These
are
the
criteria
find
a
commission.
Has
the
authority
to
take
the
following
action?
They
can
approve
the
application
and
submitted
by
the
applicant
approve
the
application
with
conditions
table
the
application
or
denied
the
application,
as
submitted
by
the
applicant
in
the
town.
Town
staff
finds
that
the
requirements
of
section
3103a
of
the
unified
development
ordinance
is
met
and
recommends
that
the
Planning
Commission
approved
the
application.
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G
We're
just
we're
just
we're
trying
to
come
on
right
now.
We
have
some
interest
in
the
first,
the
front
building,
but
we're
putting
together
a
artificial
plan
for
the
smaller
structure
in
the
back,
and
you
know
we're
we're
working
through
some
of
the
plans
with
the
historic
district,
but
we're
just
trying
to
have
two
separate
commercial
spaces
right
now.
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The
we
had
a
construction
company
pretty
pretty
well
known
construction
company
I,
would
love
to
take
over
that
space
and
then,
as
of
right
now
they
don't
want
that
secondary
space,
but
they
said
after
we
get
it
fixed
up.
They
might
actually
end
up
want
to
take
that
at
like
a
Design,
Center
or
something
but
we're
thinking
like
a
small
little
Art
Studio
or
you
know
a
number
of
different
things
that
come
up,
but
something
like
that
for
commercial.
Thank
you.
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I
Flare
comes
out
beyond
that
and
you're
you're
coming
up
really
close
to
that.
The
compacted
Gravel
drive
that
is
adjacent
to
that.
Probably
within
I,
don't
know
six
feet
of
the
base
of
that
trunk,
or
you
know
that
where
that
tree
is
located
again,
those
roots
being
they're
dug
up
that's
going
to
damage
a
lot
of
the
roots,
because
they're
you're,
taking
out
the
top
eight
inches
to
put
in
this
Gravel
Drive,
which
is
that's
where
all
the
roots
for
this
large
specimen
tree,
are
located
in
Syria's,
clearly
significant
enough.
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I
I
make
emotions,
oh
I,
do
that
I'm
sorry,
I've
had
more
notes,
and
this
is
a
suggestion.
I
understand
that
this
is
not
a
financial
escape
plan,
but
you
got
Live
Oaks
showing
on
that
treat.
Canopy
coverage
plan
and
the
light
bulbs
that
you're
proposing
are
just
a
few
feet
from
the
building.
Footprints
and
I
would
just
caution
you
that
those
get
big
and
you
don't
want
maintenance
nightmare
in
the
future.
Trying
to
keep
those
pruned
off
of
the
building.
I
D
Preliminary
development
plan
for
120
Persimmon
Street,
it's
a
request
by
Sam
Connor
on
behalf
of
the
property
owners,
James
Jeffcoat,
for
approval
of
the
preliminary
development
plan
applications.
The
project
proposes
6
600
square
foot,
commercial
building,
including
1
880
square
feet
of
Office
Space
and
4
800
square
feet
of
storage
space.
D
D
The
project
proposes
of
six
six
thousand
six
hundred
square
foot
commercial
building,
including
1880
square
feet
of
office
space
and
4
800
square
feet
of
storage
space.
The
proposed
development
meets
the
minimum
parking
space
requirements
and
12
standard
parking
spaces
and
two
accessible
handicap
spaces.
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D
D
The
Planning
Commission
shall
consider
the
criteria
support
in
section
310,
3A
of
the
Udo
and
assessing
the
application.
This
is
the
same
review
criteria.
I
just
showed
you
and
the
Planning
Commission
has
the
authority
to
approve
the
application
as
submitted,
approve
the
application
with
conditions
table
the
application
or
deny
the
application,
as
submitted
by
the
applicant
and
town
staff,
finds
the
requirements
of
section
3103a
of
the
Udo,
as
management
recommends
that
the
Planning
Commission
approved
the
application
as
submitted
and
I
can
take
any
questions.
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Yeah
they're
ARB,
which
I
don't
think
is
right.
They
there
should
be
a
foundation
planting
required
between
the
building
and
the
parking
lot
and
so
I'm
a
little
concerned
from
spatially,
because
that's
not
reflected
here
so
I,
don't
know
if,
like
I
said
I,
don't
know
if
you've
had
conversations,
but
that
may
come
up.
Okay,.
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This
is
Bleaker
Street
back.
This
is
the
Starbucks
will
be
accessed
here.
We
have
if
you're
going
through
the
drive
through.
You
come
into
the
back
access
point
and
the
cues
up
here.
This
is
showing
12.
Cubing
spaces
looks
like
maybe
about
20
queuing
spaces
before
it
would
get
off
of
the
property
during
busy
times
if
they
ever
get
as
busy.
As
that,
the.
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And
if
they
choose
to
take
the
one
on
the
upper
end,
there's
a
pedestrian
vehicular
conflict.
There,
people
get
done
with
their
order,
they
grab
their
drink
and
now
they're
putting
their
drink
in
their
cup
holder
and
they're,
not
paying
attention,
and
so
I've
got
major
concerns
with
that
access
or
that
spot
right
there
because
I
think
that's
a
that's
a
that's
a
real
problem
for
me,
and
then
you
compound
that
of
another
crosswalk
immediately
after
that
and
I
understand
that
that's
really
for
the
dumpster
access,
but
it's
also
serving
parking
lot
as.
I
I
A
lot
that
you're
looking
out
for
when
you
first
come
out
of
the
drag
when
you're
you're,
already
your
mind's
going
somewhere
else,
and
so
I,
don't
I,
don't
like
that.
I,
don't
like
the
dead
end
for
the
parking
on
that
on
the
portion
that
basically
parallels
the
excess
easement
on
the
adjacent
parking
lot.
I
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M
Came
up
there,
development
review
the
development
review
correct.
Remember
we
had
it
here,
I
brought
you
the
plan
because
Starbucks
wants
it
here.
We're
gonna
have
my
day
right,
but
it
faces
to
the
floors
open
face
right
in
the
Parkway
and
they
said
no
we're,
okay
with
heavy
landscaping
and
located
where.
M
I
I,
just
I
just
don't
think
you
can
heavily
landscape
that
the
Sky
Pencil
hollies
that
are
proposed
or
thin
and
narrow
and
they're
not
going
to
do
a
great
job
of
it.
You're
just
gonna
have
spindly
looking
plants,
shoved
up
against
a
wood
fence
and
I
think
it's
not
gonna,
Thrive
and
I.
Think
it's
not
going
to
look
good
and
I.
Think
you're
going
to
see
it
really
well
from
the
road
and
from
the
parking
lot
and
as
you
and
exit
the
property
and
I
just
think.
E
I
I
Planting
to
provide
screening
from
the
location
as
it
was
previously
proposed,
which
I
would
much
prefer
to
place
this
more
interior
of
the
property,
so
it's
a
little
more
concealed
and
I
think
you've.
Even
with
that
angle,
the
way
it
was
facing
the
roadway
that
buffer
is
there
to
screen
it
so
I,
just
I.
M
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A
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I
You're
losing
a
lot
of
potential
space
in
this
configuration.
I
think
that
you
could
potentially
pick
up
some
parking,
remove
the
dead
end
section
and
have
the
building
in
that
courtyard
basically
face
Bleaker
Street
rather
than
having
this
parking
lot,
have
an
adjacency
to
bleeder,
Street
and
and
shift
all
of
that
parking.
So
it's
basically
a
continuation
of
those
seven
spaces
that
are
running
parallel
to
the
stack
drive-through.
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M
With
them,
so
oh
definitely
the
only
phone
with
Pam
Parker
first
thing
in
the
morning,
if
I
don't
call
her
I'm
on
track
home
and
we'll
discuss
moving
that
Dale
I,
just
think
it
will
work
better.
Okay
and
I'm
going
to
express
it.
It's
been
discussed
and
we'll
move
the
dumpster
back
where
it
was
and
Lush
up
the
buffer
between
bug,
Walter
and
ourselves,
so
that
it
when
it
is
grown
and
I.
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E
Good
reviews,
so
We
are
continuing,
making
updates
to
the
unified
development
ordinance
we
made
some
last
month
and
we
will
continue
to
bring
some
to
you
next
month
as
well.
What
I'd
like
to
see
tonight
is
just
highlight
the
Amendments
that
you
have.
It's
not
my
intention
to
go
through
the
entire
text,
but
if
there's
anything
that
you
want
to
talk
about,
I
can
bring
that
up.
E
That
review
criteria
has
to
include
demonstration
of
compliance
with
the
applications
manual
and
that's
pretty
much
standard
in
our
other
reviews.
We
don't
have
it
in
this
particular
one
for
some
reason,
with
the
outdoor
sales,
we're
improving
conditions
related
to
display
location
time
and
area,
and
we're
also
extending
the
type
of
merchandise
that
can
be
sold,
we're
not
limiting
it
to
or
suggesting
that
it
be
limited
to
only
agricultural
seafood
and
seasonal
sales
products.
E
With
regard
to
the
parking
amendments,
we
are
making
a
change
to
compact
parking.
The
suggestion
is
that
when
there
are
25
or
more
parking
spaces
that
are
required,
only
then
can
compact
parking
be
provided
and
we're
proposing
that
it
be
reduced
from
25
of
the
toll
requirement
to
10
with
regard
to
sharing
using
public
parking
facilities
to
use
a
horse,
a
parking
to
comply
with
the
parking
requirement,
we
suggest
eliminating
that
that's
a
difficult
provision
for
us
to
control,
and
so
we
would
like
to
see
that
eliminated.
E
With
regard
to
the
non-conformity
section,
we're
changing
the
requirement
that
the
udos
administrator
would
have
to
make
a
determination
that
there
would
have
to
be
an
adverse
impact
on
public
health
safety
or
welfare
regarding
illegal
non-conformities.
That
may
make
it
very
difficult
to
correct
an
illegal
non-conformity
or
to
Abate.
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So
we
suggest
expanding
that
providing
a
definition
of
what
that
would
consist
of,
and
basically
the
people
within
the
household
would
function
as
a
family.
Even
though
they're
not
legally
there's
not
a
legal
relationship
and
then
finally
we're
making
a
suggestion
that
the
residential
use
descriptions
be
updated
for
accessory
dwelling
units
to
identify
what
elements
would
be
required,
such
as
a
kitchen,
a
bathroom,
a
living
area
and
allow
for
attached
and
detach
adus,
and
then
for
single
family
attached
dwelling
right
now.
E
L
Any
questions
for
sure
a
couple
questions
good
work
for
the
parking
this
may
only
be
in
there.
If
you
could
just
educate
me
a
little
bit.
Is
there
a
minimum
for
anything
where
we're
talking
like
if
there's
four
spaces
per
thousand?
Is
there
a
minimum
number
of
spaces,
or
is
it
always
proportional
to
the
square
footage?
Fair?
Is.
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Mean
I
think
it'll
just
clear
my
own
confusion,
yeah
about
when
it's
the
right
thing
and
then
I
wasn't
sure
if
there
was
any
language
about
now
that
these
are
minimum
requirements
for
the
parking
do
we
need
to
have
any
language
discussing
a
maximum
like,
should
they
be
allowed
to
go
to
like
120
before
we
get
to
have
discretion
or
are
we
just
saying
they
can
have
as
many
parking
spaces
as
they
need
and
I?
Don't
know
that
I
have
an
opinion.
It's
just
a
question.
I
thought
we
could
discuss
when.
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To
that
I
don't
know
if
anyone
has
concerns
about
it
or
not
I'm,
it
was
just
a
question
since
we're
changing
it
from
minimum
to
maximum
I
didn't
know
if
we
were,
if
there's
any
reason
to
be
concerned,
that
we
would
have
like
way
too
much
parking
on
a
lot.
It
seems
like
we
have
the
opposite
problem,
but
this.
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I,
don't
see
a
language
there,
yes,
I,
like
that,
you
had
a
comment
about
compact
spark
parking
spaces
not
being
being
allowed
I
think
that's,
not
the
correct
wording
that
you
used,
but
not
being
basically
allocated
until
you
hit
25
spaces,
and
my
only
concern
with
that
is.
If
you
had
a
property
where
you
only
had
like
12
spaces
that
were
needed,
but
you
have
this
beautiful
tree
you're
trying
to
save,
but
it's
right
in
the
middle
of
the
way
and
you,
but
you
could
put
a
15-foot
deep
space.
I
E
A
compact
car
is
actually
parked
there,
but
typically
I,
don't
know.
Typically
it's
the
right
word,
but
often
people
who
don't
have
compact
cars
will
park
in
compact
spaces
and
there
could
actually
be
more
damage
done
to
the
tree.
If
you
know,
if
someone's
trying
to
get
their
large
truck
in
there
well.
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Reverse
single
parking
can
be
confusing
and
there
needs
to
be
signage
and
I
I've
experienced
this
I've
experienced
this
for
some
reason:
Washington
State.
This
is
pretty
common
there,
but
typically
every
single
parking
space
is
signed,
and
then
you
have
a
bunch
of
signs
in
the
road
or
I'm.
Not
the
right.
I
A
I
I
Me
so
I
and
I'm
I've
stopped
traffic
so
that
they're
not
likely
to
hit
me.
So
that's
what's
really
nice
about
it.
Additionally,
if
you're
like
getting
kids
out
of
your
car,
so
what
happens
when
you're
reverse
angled
in
your
doors
come
out
so
that
they're?
Basically
your
blockade
between
your
kids
coming
out
and
your
drive
aisle,
which.
G
C
I
E
Well,
and
to
add
to
that
too,
usually
this
will
be
on
public
right
away,
and
since
we
don't
own
most
of
the
right-of-way
in
town
I
mean
the
likelihood
that
state
would
approve.
This
is
probably
small,
I
would
think
and
I
don't
know
what
situations
we
would
have
where
we
could
actually
have
reverse
angle
parking
in
town.
Do
we
have
it?
No,
we
don't.
I
E
E
B
E
Becomes
a
traffic
I
mean
in
a
parking
lot,
you're
gonna
back
out
very
slowly
and
there's
no
speeding.
Sometimes
it
is.
But
you
know
there
aren't
speeding
cars
and
it's
easier.
You
know
to
back
out
of
a
parking
space,
but
in
public
right-of-way
it's
a
safety
issue
too.
You
can
back
in
Reverse
angle
and
you
can
see
cars
coming,
but
that's
not
a
situation.
I.
Don't
believe
that
we're
going
to
have
experience
here
and.
I
I
J
J
J
You
are
effectively
prohibiting
the
remainder
of
that
of
that
use.
So
if
you
say
you
know,
I
don't
know
what
is
angle.
Parking
is
a
little
bit
difficult,
a
little
bit
difficult
because
it's
not
like
there's
reverse
angle
parking
to
find
terms
as
I
understand
it
straightforward
parking
and
that
you're
permitting.
H
J
J
B
H
E
J
Something
where,
if,
if
it
needs
to
be
added
back
in
with
some
regulation
in
the
future,
it
may
be
something
that
staff
needs
to.
You
know
more
heavily
consider,
in
particular
with
Town's
efforts
on
the
ghost
roads
the
acquisition
of
Ghost
Rider
can
have,
or
how
maintain
and
manage
public
right
ways.
So
it
could
be
something
like
that
investigate
in.
B
J
One
moment
to
look
at
that,
the
to
kind
of
give
you
a
background
on
why
that's
why
that's
being
done
is
back
in
I
think
it
was
2016-17.
There
were
some
amendments
to
there
were
some
regulatory
guidance
for
the
Fair
Housing
Act
on
you
know
what
were
considered
limiting
definitions
of
family
and
single
family,
and
so
at
that
time
the
Obama
Administration
said
we
need
to
expand
that
definition
to
be
more
more
inclusive.
J
You
know
the
different
type
of
families
that
we
have
throughout
this
country,
and
you
know
from
from
a
housing
standpoint
that
certainly
I
mean
without
getting
into
any
sort
of
without
getting
into
I.
Guess
the
war
politically
charged
issues
from
housing
standpoint.
You
do
have
a
number
of
different
types
of
housing:
Arrangements
that
are
considered
a
fan.
You
know
a
single
family
resonance.
B
J
So
the
idea
was
to
use
the
language
that
was
suggested
through
the
I
believe
it
was
a
HUD
guidance
and
then
used
some
more
guidance.
They
came
through
in
the
following
years
as
to
how
to
define
that
and
from
a
legal
standpoint,
it's
to
limit
liability,
because
if
you
start
denying
these
single-family
residences
based
off
of
what
you
know
how
this
household
is
configured
who
is
qualifying
as
a
household
and
really
qualifies
as
a
family.
J
It's
because
course
has
said:
well,
that's
reasonable,
you're,
not
just
you're,
not
creating
this
based
off
a
suspect
classification,
because
otherwise
you
can
keep
something
so
broad
that
it
can
be
any
number
of
individuals
combined
together
and
we
wanted
to
lead
that
discretion
with
the
Udo
administrator
to
say.
Okay.
J
We
are
we've
been
together
for
10
years:
here's
our
tax
bills,
there's
our
utility
bills.
Here's
the
tuition
checks.
We
write
off
the
kids,
it's
so
you
got
you've
got
ways
of
doing
it,
delicate
issue,
but
it's
one
that
we
think
is
that
is
essential
to
making
sure
that
we're
we've
got
a
union,
that's
enforceable,
yeah.
J
Believe
so
I
think
that
just
yeah
I
think
that's
the
reason
you
have
the
single
household
unit
as
a
is
a
term
that
had
been
used
before
in
some
of
those
federal
regulations
and
some
of
those
opinions.
So
we
wanted
to
create
a
term
rather
than
incorporating
all
of
this
information
in
the
definition
yeah.
J
J
I
I
I
J
That's
right,
so
we
didn't,
but
because
of
the
way
that
the
definition
section
is
is
written
or
you
know
it's
a
couple
of
times,
because
we
have
single
household
unit
as
a
we
wanted
to
have
that
as
a
defined
term.
And
then
you
have
family
as
a
separately
defined
term.
We
separated
them
out
and
just
continue
to
keep
them
as
a
alphabetical
list
of
definitions
is
that
is
that
what
you're
is.
B
I
I
J
E
E
J
J
This
is,
if
you
don't
meet
that
definition.
There
is
a
rebuttable
presumption
that
you're,
not
a
family.
What
you
need
to
do
is
show
that
you're
a
single
household
unit,
if
you
can
prove
that
you're
a
single
household
unit,
you
will
qualify
as
a
family,
whether
you
have
whether
you
are
one
to
more
than
five
persons
related
by
blood
marriage,
so
on
and
so
forth.
Again,
this
is
largely
written
with
help
from.
J
Again,
looking
at
what
other
other
jurisdictions
have
done
and
trying
to
apply
that
that
language
that
they've
given
so
if
you've
got
if
you've
got
concerns
with
the
numbers
and
I,
don't
know
whether
the
numbers
are
essential
as
much
as
they
are
about
giving
some
guidance
on
what
how
we
make
these
determinations.
So.
L
I
J
C
J
H
H
H
J
Phrase
and
again,
you
know
we're
kind
of
testing
out
the
legal
issues
here.
With
this
one
and
they're
I
mean.
Obviously,
there
are
a
number
of
different
arguments
that
can
be
made
about
this
and
that's
why
it's
we're
getting
so
much
guidance
from
it
from
the
federal
government
audit.
But
the
idea
here
is
this:
is
we
have
very
explicit
language
on
what
does
not
constitute
a
family?
E
L
J
J
Single-Family
households,
a
fraternity
could
not
have
and
if
there
could
not
be
a
fraternity
house-
and
they
are
under
that
definition
because
they
are
not
considered
a
family
and
that
is
the
trigger.
So
if
it's
a
single
family
household,
you
know
they
are
not,
shall
not
be
construed,
that's
mandatory,
so
fraternity,
sorority,
Club,
Monastery,
Convent
or
institutional
group.
That
is
that's.
That's
the
intent
and
I
understand.
There's
that
circular
argument
and
I
think
that's
why
we
include
That
explicit
language
to
avoid.
Well,
you
know
we
have
all
these.
J
The
reality
is,
if
there
are,
you
know,
any
sort
of
issues
regarding
the
definition
of
family
and
the
enforcement
of
this
sort
of
language
is
is
going
to
be,
is
going
to
be
very
it's
going
to
be
difficult
from
all
sides,
because
you
have
a
definition.
That's
not
really
fixed
and
you
have
the
definition
that
in
large
way
in
large
part,
depends
upon.
J
You
know:
protected
classifications
of
people
and
their
federal
and
state
law.
So
in
trying
to
Define
this
from
a
zoning
perspective,
you're
wanting
to
create
some
flexibility,
which
is
a
little
bit
different
from
how
you
would
there's
only
one,
that's
distracted
and
what
you
want
to
do
is
be
able
to
create
again
the
presumptions
that
came
that
we're
creating
a
fixed
definition.
I
E
I
And
I
I'm
actually
a
little
confused,
I'm
kind
of
not
sure
that
I
understand
this
section.
It's
here's!
How
what
I'm
thinking
I'm
here
and
I'm,
not
sure
that
that's
what
I'm
hearing,
so
you
can
probably
speak
to
my
understanding
versus,
what's
really
written
the
way
that
I'm
understanding
this
is
this
kind
of
a
response
to
the
acquisition
of
the
ghostroads
so
that
it's
not
requiring
the
town
to
have
to
do
or
not
be
allowed
to
do
certain
things
when
they
acquire
that
is,
and.
J
This
this
was
actually
more,
as
this
was
more
in
response
to
some
of
the
sidewalk
projects
that
have
been
going
in
throughout
the
town.
Like
comedy,
Road
accounts
Evansville,
the
May
River
streetscape
Project
was
one
of
the
one
was
one
of
the
main
projects
that
brought
this
issue
to
the
attention
of
town
staff,
so
essentially,
Town
staff
is
approaching
property
owners
and
requesting
easements
for
right-of-way
dedications
from
you
know,
property
owners
and
the
first
question
is
well
how's.
J
This
going
to
impact
you
know
the
future
development,
but
also
I,
think
ghostroads
is
I
mean
it
ties
in
obviously
for
the
same
reasons,
but
this
one
was
brought
up
because
we
wanted
to
you
know:
have
it
not
be
so
limiting
in
which
parts
of
the
Udo
would
not
be
impacted
by
the
dedication,
so
the
front
yard
setback
parking
lot
set
back
or
green
belt.
We
wanted
more
flexibility,
account
staff
I,
wanted
more
flexibility
with
that,
so
that
when
those
questions
were
raised
and
asked,
you
could
give
more
definitive
answers
on
a
future
project.
J
I
One
question
I
have
on
7.2.2
and
the
illegal
non-conformities
is
towards
the
end.
Illegal
non-composers,
I'm
not
being
changed
in
large,
expanded,
extended
and
last
subtraction
is
in
full
conformance
of
the
provisions
of
this
ordinance.
Now
it
full
movie.
We
want
that
to
read
and
to
go
one
of
the
things
that
I've
experienced
when
you're
redeveloping
a
property
is
that
sometimes
it's
prohibitive
to
bring
a
property
into
full
conformance.
I
You
can
bring
it
into
a
greater
conformance,
but
you
can't
and
so
improvements
don't
happen
period
and
you
think
see
things
kind
of
go
into
decline
because
they
can't
get
it
into
full
conformance.
So
I'm
wondering
if
we
don't
look
at
that
language
and
consider
greater
Conformity
to
the
provisions
of
this
ordinance.
I
I
I
J
B
J
And
if
I
may
just
make
a
clarification
7.9
as
I
was
reading
again,
I
think
the
primary
intent
of
this
when
they
come
back
on
it
was
what
we
discussed,
but
also
from
a
density
standpoint
say
you
have.
You
know
those
four
acres,
but
you
lose
0.1
or
0.2
as
part
of
the
dedication
and
say
it's
a
you
know:
a
commercial
with
commercial
density.
J
I
On
the
outdoor
sales
portion
of
this,
the
4.4.2.8
for
one
in
the
new
version
of
it,
one
of
the
things
that
you
need
to
try
to
see
it
explicitly
allows
for
the
propane
cylinders
which
got
me
thinking
about
what
are
all
the
things
you
see
outside
of
a
gas
station
like
ice
machines
or
maybe
they're
selling
wood
I,
don't
know
things
that
would
be
normally
outside
of
a
gas
station,
but
aren't
a
problem.
So
what
my.
C
J
Sure,
yes,
so
and
unfortunately,
for
Charlotte,
a
lot
of
this
again
was
worked
on
back
in
2018,
2019
and
I.
Think
they
were
planning
to
bring
these
growth
management
planning
to
bring
these
back
before
Planning
Commission,
HPC
and
Town
Council.
And
then
the
majority
of
the
the
focus
on
the
Udo
amendments
changed,
and
you
know
other
priorities
took
place.
H
J
I
E
I
E
I
I
B
I
You
know:
30
inches
is
sufficient
for
Clear
pedestrian
space,
but
a
code
of
enforcement
or
somebody
else's
to
set
you
know
or
zoning
has
decided.
That's
not
actually,
if
it's
a
five-foot
language,
a
clear
somewhere
else
that
makes
that
enforceable
and
it
doesn't
need
to
be
here
I,
don't
want
to
argue
that
it
has
to
be
here.
J
I
I
think
the
idea
at
one
and
why
trying
to
remember
if
this
came
from
Planning
Commission
or
if
it
came
from
HBC
or
if
it
came
from
town
staff,
is
the
idea
was
flexibility
into
the
because
we're
gonna
have
you
know
you
have
a
couple
of
different
types
of
our
sale,
outdoor
sales
and
outdoor
sale
displays,
and
so
they
wanted
that
flexibility
rather
than
a
fixed
five
feet
concerns.
Maybe
five
feet
may
not
be
enough
for
serving,
but
five
foot
wide
I
think
I
think
that.
J
H
I
L
Becomes
a
life
safety
issue,
though,
like
you're
egress
from
a
building
is
described
in
the
building
code,
and
so,
if
a
code
official
came
by
and
said
it
was
too
small
like
you
have
to
use
it
so
to
comply
with
the
building
code,
you
can't
obstruct
the
exit
or
Pathways
and
it
doesn't
extend
like
it,
extends
as
you're
exiting
the
building.
It's
not
just
like.
What's
under
roof.
L
I
The
other
thing
I
was
worried
about
with
them
being
10
feet
of
the
building.
Is
that
you
know,
we've
got
the
eight
foot
foundation,
planting
you're
you're,
now
forcing
them
to
put
this
all
on
the
foundation
planting
and
thereby
damaging
destroying
or
encouraging
the
removal
of
foundation
plantings
as
well.
You.
J
J
Where
there
was,
you
know
some
concern
about
that
that
language
and
they
tend
to
be
from
the
front
for
side
of
the
building.
It's
it's
not
man,
it's
not
mandatory
that
people
have
outdoor
sales,
but
if
you're
going
to
have
them,
these
are
the
limitations
that
are
being
imposed
so
I
I,
think
that
was
the
way
that
it
was
addressed.
I
understand
your
concern
that
you're,
essentially
in
with
an
eight
foot,
eight
foot
mandatory
planting
area.
I
I
L
J
H
J
That
is
page
88
of
your
packet,
where,
if
an
applicant
would
like
to
reduce
the
number
of
parking
spaces,
Beyond
20
or
increase
the
number
of
parking
spaces
Beyond
maximum
in
the
table
below
the
applicant
check
about
an
apartment
certificate,
Udo
administrators
review,
my
understanding
was
the
Planning
Commission.
Really
suddenly
responding,
commissioner
expressed
an
interest
in
keeping
that
language,
but
having
him
reflected,
we
now
have
minimum
standards
rather
than.
J
J
H
H
D
So
I
think
that's
right:
okay,
yeah
9.3,
it
starts
with
a
dimensional
standards
in
these
regulations
shall
be
interpreted
according
to
the
following
rules
and
guidance,
and
it
has
an
A
B.
No
one
gets
to
see
it
says
one
calculations
result
in
fractions.
The
results
shall
have
two
significant
figures
in
any
fractional.
Original
results
shall
be
rounded
up
to
the.
L
E
J
25
parking
spaces
do
we
want,
and
obviously
this
is,
if
I'm
is
that
something
that
you
would
like
staff
to
look
further
into
and
maybe
bring
back.
If
we
need
to
remove
that
or
is
it
something
that
is
of
concern
about
that,
it
needs
to
be
stricken
and
then
maybe
added
back
if
staff
can
produce
a
valid
reason
for.
C
I
I
That
if
there
was
an
accessory
unit
previously
with
a
dwelling
unit
previously
that
there
would
have
been
no
requirement,
and
so
now
we're
adding
a
space.
Or
are
we
saying
that
if
there
was
a
dwelling
unit,
both
with
the
primary
building
and
the
accessory
building,
both
would
have
been
required
to
have
two
parking
spaces.
But
we're
now
requiring
the
accessory
to
only
have
one.
C
I
I
I
E
E
L
E
C
E
E
I
C
I
Where
you're
coming
from
I'm,
not
that's
I,
just
I,
do
know
that
there's
there's
affordable
houses
and
what
that
means
is
that
you
tend
to
well.
There
could
be
a
husband
and
wife
that
live
in
that
and
they
could
have
two
cars
and
then
you're
burning.
You
know,
then
you
got
cars
parked
either
in
the
grass
lawn
or
they're
taken
at
the
on-street
parking,
or
you
know
they're.
They
could
be
plugging
up
something
else,
and
so,
but.
H
A
I
J
Not
be
removed
from
the
code,
but
rather
it
remains
with
revisions
reflecting
the
new
parking
standards
are
minimums
rather
than
maximums
section
511
482,
with
the
revision
that
golf
car
parking
spaces
shall
not
count
towards
require
minimum
parking
spaces
and
that
the
fractional
Dimension
standards
cater
5
staff
for
parking
calculations
be
incorporated
into
the
Udo.
Their
staff
data.