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Town of Hilton Head Island, Finance and Administrative Committee
Meeting Agenda available at https://www.hiltonheadislandsc.gov/towncouncil/agendas
A
Alpraza
we
have
minutes
of
August
16,
20
eating
and
good
job
in
the
minutes.
Christa
are
there
any
changes,
additions
or
deletions,
give
her
approval.
Second,
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
the
same.
B
A
B
A
C
See
you
all
thank
you
good
morning,
my
colleague,
Debbie
Cahoon
and
I
are
honored
to
be
here
to
give
you
an
update
on
the
work
of
the
the
committee
that
handled
the
arpa
distributions.
C
My
remarks
are
going
to
be
General
and
then
Debbie's
going
to
have
more
specifics
for
you
on
this
latest
round.
I
believe
you
all
received
a
report
of
all
the
funding
and
as
well
as
the
summary
of
the
entire
one
million
dollars
that
has
now
been
awarded.
I
first
want
to
thank
the
council
for
making
the
commitment
early
on
to
allocate
a
portion
of
the
arpa
funds
available
to
the
town
to
be
able
to
put
out
into
the
community
through
our
non-profit
Partners,
as
I
mentioned,
I.
Think
on
my
first
visit
before
this
committee.
C
This,
the
town
of
Hilton
Head,
was
the
first
municipality
in
the
state
of
South
Carolina.
To
do
so,
and
it
has
been
used
in
other
communities
around
the
state
to
say,
look
what
what
they
did
and
there's
opportunities.
So
it's
something
I
think
you
all
should
be
proud
of.
You
responded
quickly
at
a
time
when
the
needs
were
great.
Instead
of
waiting.
A
year
or
two
down
the
road
to
figure
out
what
to
do
with
it,
so
that
is,
that
is
appreciated.
C
Many
of
them
have
had
to
re-engineer
how
they
operate,
and
at
a
time
when
the
demand
was
perhaps
the
greatest
in
their
histories
in
terms
of
needs,
many
of
the
organizations
lost
core
volunteer
base
that
was
essential
to
the
work
and
they've
had
to
figure
out
workarounds
so
that
the
worker
can
could
continue.
So
we're
thankful
for
that,
and
then
the
third
group
I'd
like
to
thank
with
the
committee.
C
C
So,
as
I
mentioned
as
of
a
week
or
so
ago,
the
one
million
dollars
that
had
been
committed
has
now
been
committed
and
has
been
awarded
and
in
the
hands
of
the
nonprofits
doing
the
work.
This
happened
over
three
Grant
cycles
that
started
earlier
this
year
and
the
most
recent
Grant
cycle.
Debbie
will
talk
to
you
in
a
minute
about
that,
in
addition
to
the
money
going
out,
which
is
great
to
help
our
neighbors
in
in
need.
Some
other
great
things
happened
as
a
result
of
this.
C
I
just
want
to
say
that
these
public-private
Partnerships
are
a
best
practice
and
again
the
foundation
is
honored
to
have
been
a
partner
with
the
town
on
this,
as
well
as
other
Partnerships
in
the
past
unrelated
to
the
Opera
process.
You
may
be
aware
of
the
fact
that
the
town
recently
was
informed
that,
because
of
the
process
that
the
town
had
back
in
2020,
in
partnership
with
the
foundation
with
the
cbdg
HUD
money
for
covid
Relief,
because
that
was
done
efficiently
and
the
reports
were
well
done.
C
The
town
has
been
awarded
an
additional
102
thousand
dollars
from
money
from
other
communities
that
didn't
spend
it.
That
money
is
coming
back
into
this
community
and
will
be
distributed
back
out
to
organizations.
So
these
types
of
public-private
Partnerships
can
serve
our
community
extremely
well,
and
we've
been
honored
to
be
a
partner
in
this
I'm,
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Debbie
and
she's
got
some
more
specific
information
on
this
latest
round
and
some
additional
insights.
D
Thank
you.
I
want
to
join
Scott
in
thanking
the
town
of
Hilton
Head
for
carving
out
a
portion
of
the
American
Rescue
plan
act,
funds
to
distribute
back
into
non-profit
organizations
who
are
serving
the
community
members
who
need
it
the
most
as
they
face
the
increasing
effects
of
the
after
effects
of
covet
or
increasing
needs
as
they,
after
effect.
Just
to
remind
you,
this
partnership
started
October
of
2021..
D
We,
it
was
very
important
to
the
Community
Foundation
from
the
very
beginning
that
we
identified
the
non-profits
that
we
knew
would
meet
the
criteria
for
funding
as
out
providing
services
that
were
outlined
in
the
guidelines.
I
emailed
each
of
those
organizations,
our
Communications
staff
also
posted
information
on
social
media
and
on
our
website.
D
Final
reports
are
due
on
June
30th.
So
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
has
to
be
done
with
that
last
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
between
now
and
then,
since
those
final
decisions
were
made
last
month,
I
did
have
the
privilege
of
meeting
with
representatives
from
15
of
the
20
organizations
that
received
funding.
We
brought
them
into
the
Community
Foundation
and
we
ask
them
to
share
their
projects
with
each
other,
many
of
them
already
collaborate,
they
shared
their
collaborations
and
they
shared
additional
opportunities
to
collaborate.
So
it
was
a
wonderful
experience.
D
Wonderful
for
me
to
see,
through
through
this
fund
as
you'll,
see
on
the
report
that
you
have
over
the
last
11
months.
12
of
the
funds
were
awarded
to
agencies
that
provide
child
care
or
after
school,
tutoring
22
was
awarded
to
agencies
working
in
the
health
or
mental
health.
Space
22
was
awarded
to
agencies
responding
to
emergency
housing
relief.
D
The
agencies
that
I
met
with
shared
their
needs,
they
may
have
and
other
opportunities
that
they
had.
We
had
Mental
Health
America
asked
for
the
folks
who
are
working
with
individuals
to
help
identify
those
who
could
benefit
from
the
scholarships
that
they
had
received.
D
There
was
discussions
between
the
Penn
Ministry
at
First,
Presbyterian,
Church
and
Sandalwood
about
responding
to
homeless
individuals
who
are
who
they're
encountering
now.
So
it
was
a
great
conversation
and
I
learned
a
lot.
The
the
organizations
learned
a
lot.
They
left
the
foundation
with
the
directory
of
all
of
those
who
are
providing
Services
what
services
they're
providing
and
contact
information
so
that
they
can
continue
to
work
together
before
the
agencies
left.
D
They
reminded
me,
and
so
I'll
remind
you
that
we
need
to
consider
this
support
as
critical
to
the
whole
individual
who
receives
it,
not
just
limited
to
the
type
of
support
that
the
individual
receives.
For
instance,
if
individuals
are
receiving
food
from
Sandalwood
that
frees
up
other
resources
so
that
they
can
pay
their
rent
if
they're
receiving
rental
assistance,
maybe
they
can
afford
to
pay
a
medical
bill
or
child
care.
D
So
we
need
to
remember
that
that
all
of
this
is
crucial
to
the
vulnerable
population
right
now
in
Hilton
Head,
who,
who
is,
has
the
most
negative
impact
by
all
that's
going
on
I
want
to
thank
you
again
for
all
that
you
are
doing
for
the
community
and
I
want
to
thank
the
town
for
choosing
the
Community
Foundation
to
partner
with
this
in
this
effort.
Thank
you.
A
Debbie
and
Scott,
when
we
initiated
this
this
process
to
distribute
the
arpa
funds,
enlisting
your
support
and
your
experience.
We
really
didn't
know
what
to
expect.
I
can
say
personally:
I
I,
never
expected
this
kind
of
success.
I
couldn't
be
more
pleased
with
the
way
you
handled
it
and
the
leverage
and
the
collaboration
is
a
byproduct
that
we
need
to
keep
going.
E
You
certainly
have
had
a
tremendous
multiplier
effect
throughout
the
community
and
I
think
that
that
speaks
well
to
your
community
vision
and
speaks
well
to
your
involvement
as
as
partners
with
other
charitable
organizations
in
the
community.
So
we
just
say
thank
you,
your
your
wonderful
stewards
of
public
resources.
Thank
you.
F
Thank
you.
I
know
that
we
chose
the
right
organization
to
partner
with
the
town
to
manage
this
project,
and
so
I
salute
you
for
doing
such
an
outstanding
job.
The
spread
of
These
funds
over
different
needs
seems
to
make
so
much
sense.
F
G
F
G
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
for
your
your
efforts,
I
kind
of
described
this
as
Community
Wellness
I
mean
there
are
a
lot
of
different
pieces
to
that
right,
and
the
town
of
Hilton
Head
as
a
government
entity,
does
not
have
a
department
to
fill
those
gaps
right.
So
we
appreciate
that
the
Community
Foundation
low
country
has
been
able
to
pull
together
and
and
move
the
needle
I
got.
I
got
a
couple
of
thought-provoking
questions.
Okay,
great
the
first
one
is,
is
the
need
gone.
C
G
The
the
second
one
is
throughout
the
conversation
with
the
non-profits
that
are
filling
those
gaps.
Has
there
been
a
I
guess,
a
long-term
plan
to
continue
that
collaboration
through
the
Community
Foundation
back
to
us,
so
that
we
are
well
aware,
as
to
Number
One
Direction
number
two
need
our
community
qualifies
for
Community
block
grants
and
often,
in
my
humble
opinion,
we're
not
necessarily
sure
how
to
spend
them.
G
Okay
and
the
fact
that
other
communities
struggle
with
that,
but
we
are
now
an
example
so
much
so
that
you're
being
awarded
another
102,
Grand
I
think
that
that's
an
opportunity
that
maybe
we
can
shift
how
we're
using
our
community
block,
grant
funding.
Okay,
there's
from
the
environmental
social
standpoint,
there's
money
is
out
there
there's
so
many
different
funding
sources
that
could
help
the
cause,
then
I'm
not
sure
we're
leveraging
because
of
this
disconnect
between
the
non-profits
and
the
municipality.
So
I'm
just
curious
of
your
thoughts
on
that.
C
That's
a
great
point
and
know
that
we
feel
that
one
of
the
roles,
Central
roles
of
the
mission
of
the
foundation
is
to
be
a
convener,
particularly
around
local
community
issues,
and
so
we
feel
as
though
there's
more
we
can
do
to
bring
people
around
this
opportunity
through
the
arpa
funding
was
a
wonderful
example
and
a
reason
to
get
everyone
around
the
table
because
they
were
all
focused
on
kind
of
a
short-term
issue.
There
are
a
lot
of
other
opportunities
to
do
convenings
around
issues.
C
We
actually
are
partnering
with
the
United
Way
in
October,
and
doing
a
session
on
the
need
for
male
mentoring
for
young
boys.
That's
going
to
be
out
at
Palmetto
electric
and
we've
invited
about
55
institutions
to
be
together
to
find
out
where
people
have
a
common
interest,
and
what
can
we
do
for
for
young
boys
and
young
men
to
have
more
successful
outcome?
C
C
G
I
Mr
Chad
you've
done
such
a
great
job
with
leading
us
through
these
discussions
and
I,
know
you're
on
your
way
out
and
I'm
making.
This
comment
not
just
for
for
my
colleagues
here
but
for
senior
staff,
particularly
Mr
Troya,
as
we
move
forward
the
transition
into
a
new
finance
committee.
Whatever
that
looks
like
I
think
that
a
standing
agenda
item,
maybe
once
a
quarter
is
us
having
conversations
with
Mr
Whitman
as
to
the
direction.
Okay,
I
view
this
no
different
than
Rec
Recreation.
G
Here
on
Hilton
Head,
we
don't
have
a
recreation
department,
but
we
have
the
Island
rec
center.
That
is
handling
that
business
for
us
and
you
are
handling
the
community
Wellness
business
for
us
and
we
need
to
continue
to
dialogue
so
we're
well
abreast
and
able
to
make
sound
decisions
based
on
your
knowledge,
so
I
just
ask
that
we
continue
the
conversation.
Thank
you
amen.
Welcome
to.
A
The
I
noticed
that
in
the
second
tranche
there
were
eight
applications,
six
approvals
and
two
were
declined
right
where
they
declined
because
they
didn't
qualify
or
was
it
a
matter
of
funding.
D
One
of
the
agencies
did
not
qualify.
Let
me
go
back
and
look
at
the
which
the
second
one
that
didn't
yeah.
A
D
Arpa
they
they
are,
they
can
only
go
to
organizations
who
serve
the
majority
and
low
to
moderate
income.
One
of
the
organizations,
the
one
that
was
declined
because
it
was
not
eligible,
was
low
country,
autism,
Foundation.
The
project
was
located
in
Bluffton,
primarily
and
it
didn't
quite
meet
the
arpa
requirements.
It
will
not
meet
the
cdbg
because
they
they
serve
autistic
individuals,
regardless
of
their
their
income
levels,
so
they
wouldn't
quite
meet
that
that
same
bracket.
So.
A
H
Thank
you,
Mr,
chair,
yes,
currently
under
contract
is
green
Finney.
They
are
on
their
fifth
year
of
a
five-year
contract
and
was
originally
four
years
with
one
year
extension,
which
Town
Council
approved
this
year.
As
we
looked
at
the
end
of
Green
Finney's
term,
we
went
out
to
proposals
and
sought
bids
for
the
audit
services
to
satisfy
the
state
law
and
satisfy
the
town
coat
through
the
proposal
process.
We
received
applications,
we
reviewed
the
applications,
it
was
reviewed
by
Committee
of
staff
and
our
chair
who
participated
in
those
reviews
and
based
on
those
reviews.
H
As
far
as
the
cost
and
the
now
we
make
the
recommendation
that
this
contract
be
awarded
and
so
Auditors.
They
they
don't
work
for
staff,
they
don't
work
for
Town
manager,
they
work
for
tone
Council,
and
so
this
is
Town
council's
contract
and
we
would
recommend.
A
I
I
would
comment
since
I
participated
in
this
committee,
that
the
short
list
was
green,
Finney
and
M,
and
L
and
green
Finney's
response
to
the
RFP
was
outstanding
and
Emma.
Now
mnj
excuse
me
was
even
more
outstanding
and
I
think
the
primary
difference
or
differentiator
was
the
level
of
experience
in
local
and
municipal
government
that
m
j
had
versus
green
Finney,
and
that
said,
we
were
satisfied
with
the
performance
of
green
infinity
over
the
past
five
years,
but
I
think
this
really
gives
us
the
opportunity
to
take
it
to
another
level.
F
H
Was
a
Professional
Services
proposal,
and
so
we
wanted
to
emphasize
experience
and
similar
similarly
situated
clients,
and
so
local
governments
who
would
have
you
know
some
of
the
same
operations
that
we
do
and
so
that
this
kind
of
audit
would
be
their
expertise.
And
that's
part
of
what
we
found
through
the
evaluations
was
that
Malden
and
Jenkins
really
really
focuses
on
local
governments.
H
A
H
A
E
H
A
A
A
H
Yes,
Mr
chairman
they
are,
and
so
we
can.
We
can
report
that
great
first
two
months,
and
so
our
fiscal
year
starts
July
1st
and
these
numbers
are
August
31st
numbers
for
the
most
part
again,
I
like
to
start
this
way
that
the
town
continues
to
monitor
revenues.
H
Town
Council
has
had
the
foresight
to
build
reserves,
diversify
revenue
streams
and
invest
in
the
island,
and
all
of
those
things
have
helped
to
put
us
on
firm,
Financial
footing
for
August,
we'll
move
on
general
fund
revenues.
These
are
just
individual
months.
July
you
can
see.
2023
is
better
than
the
last
four
years.
H
August
is
not
as
good
as
last
year,
but
just
note
that
in
2022
August
we
had
one
off
schedule.
Large
payment
from
the
state
for
business
license
and
I
think
we
will
see
later
in
the
year.
That
was
more
of
a
timing
difference
than
anything
else,
and
so
it's
not
that
2022
was
so
great,
but
it
was
just
earlier
in
the
year
than
what
we
would
usually
expect,
and
so,
if
you
look
at
without
that
one
large
2022,
our
2023
numbers
have
a
good
start
for
the
year.
H
To
date,
it's
kind
of
a
similar
picture,
July
we're
better
than
the
last
four
years-
August,
not
quite
as
good
as
last
year,
but
better
than
the
three
before,
and
that
positive
anomaly
that
will
offset
as
the
year
goes
forward
is
what
we
expect.
H
H
Here's
our
normal
sample
preview
and
it's
a
mixed
bag.
It's
really
you
can
see.
Tiff
is
down
17
local
latex
is
up,
15
real
estate
transfer
fee
is
down,
31.
H
Beach
is
up
15.,
electric
train
electric
franchise
fee
is
up
one.
Although
Road
usage
fee
is
down,
98
I
mean
it's
all
over
the
board
and
so
I
think
that's.
My
emphasis
is
that
this
early
in
the
year,
small
changes
seem
like
really
big,
and
this
will
kind
of
settle
down
as
we
get
a
little
more
history
into
the
year,
and
so,
however,
if
you
take
out
that
one
large
payment
from
masc
or
the
state
business
license,
then
we're
within
four
percent
of
last
year,
and
we
do
think
that's
a
timing
difference.
H
We
are
seeing
that
the
rate
increases
affecting
real
estate
transfer
fees.
We'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
Coming
up
a
couple,
other
things
that
happened
as
well.
If
you
look
forward
Road
usage
fee,
that
was
paused
by
Town
Council
and
so
we're
not
collecting,
and
so,
if
you
take
out
just
those
three
things,
business
license:
Road
usage
fee
and
real
estate
transfer
fee
we're
up,
and
so
this
is.
H
This
is
a
really
odd
mix
that
we're
seeing
so
far
and
so
I
I
would
just
say
that
the
best
thing
we
can
do
is
wait
and
see
property
taxes.
You
can
see
the
last
couple
years
of
15
million
16
million
in
that
year
to
day
109
000.
So
it's
it's
really
early
in
the
year
to
get
that
it's
primarily
taxes
on
vehicles
until
the
bills.
We
expect
those
to
go
out
in
October,
here's
a
little
bit
more
on
a
real
estate
transfer
fee.
A
H
You're
today,
real
estate
transfer
fee,
if
you
go
back
to
2019-2020,
that
was
a
more
normal
year
and
so
the
the
two
years
after
that
were
just
really
good,
and
so
our
year
to
date,
2023
is
is
substantially
better
than
a
normal
year.
And
it's
just
that
we're
not
quite
as
good
as
the
last
couple
business
licenses.
H
This
is
no
new
numbers,
because
it's
so
early
in
the
year,
but
I
I,
think
I
want
to
just
emphasize
with
Mr
Lennox
is
that
we
want
to
certainly
pay
attention
to
the
state
and
the
state
has
such
an
influence
over
how
we
have
to
operate,
and
so
business
licenses
have
been
good
and
we
hope
that
that
continues.
It
is
a
good
barometer
of
our
economy
on
the
island
and
there's
a
piece.
H
Here's
our
numbers
from
last
year,
and
so
it
was
a
a
really
strong
collection
year
for
business
licenses,
General
Funda
expending
we
we
flip
over
to
the
spending
side,
July
we're
a
little
bit
under
what
we
might
expect
and
August
is
about
normal,
and
so
I
would
point
out
that
our
August
spending
at
right
at
4
million
dollars
is
right
at
our
annual
budget
and
your
budget
of
48
million.
So
you
multiply
by
12
and
we're
right
on
the
money.
H
There
is
some
seasonality
to
that,
and
so
we've
gotten
a
number
of
things
that
are
paid
once
a
year:
pay,
quarterly
pay
and
so
in
different
seasons,
and
so
we'll
certainly
want
to
keep
a
close
eye
on
that.
But
it's
about
where
we
would
expect
you're
today
the
same
thing:
July
is
normally
a
little
bit
lower
on
the
spending
side,
as
as
we
get
the
year
started,
and
then
August
is
more
of
a
normal
year.
H
And
so
if
our
year-to-date
spending
is
6.8
million,
and
we
expected
it
could
be
as
much
as
eighth
and
I
think
we're
right
on
track
and
and
know
that,
June
by
the
time
we
get
to,
June
is
going
to
be
a
little
bit
higher
month.
As
we
include
our
accruals.
H
There's
some
differences
here
that
you
will
see
there's
a
little
shift
in
Personnel.
You
can
look
at.
For
instance,
you
look
at
the
the
largest
chain
here.
Council
wanted
to
make
an
additional
emphasis
on
fire
rescue
pay
and
so
we're
seeing
that
that's
being
implemented
and
has
been
implemented,
and
so
it's
higher
than
last
year.
I
think
you
know
that
will
moderate
a
little
bit
as
we
get
forward
the
sheriff
and
Beach
Services.
H
That's
also
a
higher
number,
but
that's
just
because
there's
an
additional
emphasis
on
the
beach
ambassadors
and
putting
those
efforts
to
work
more
so
this
year
than
last
year
and
you're,
seeing
that,
but
at
11.4
percent
I
think
this
is
early
and
I.
Think
it's
going
to
moderate
a
little
bit
as
we
go.
H
If
we
compare
this
to
budget
and
say
okay,
how
does
that
compare
to
budget?
We
are
16.7
percent
through
the
year
and
we
have
spent
14
percent
of
our
budget
and
so
we're
we're
tracking
right,
like
we
should
the
only
one
that
is
above
that
16.7
percent
is
town
wide
and
town
wide.
We
pay
our
property
taxes
in
July
right
off
the
bat
for
the
whole
year,
and
so
that's
100
spending
in
in
a
part
of
that
town,
wide
and
so
otherwise,
I
think
we're
comfortably
where
we
would
expect
to
be
on
our
spending
side.
H
Just
a
reminder:
this
is
old
numbers,
but
last
year
we
ended
up
spending
98.7
percent
of
budget
on
general
fund,
Debt
Service
99.9
and
storm
water
86.
So
let
me
just
give
you
a
little
bit
of
History
general
fund
activity.
This
is
again
just
some
year-end
numbers,
but
we
ended
up
with
47
million,
so
Mr
Lennox
was
asking:
how
did
we
budget,
and
so
we
collected
an
actual
and
general
fund
47
million?
H
We
budgeted
48
for
the
new
year,
okay
and
then
in
the
past
year
we
put
back,
and
that
was
always
Mr
Brown's
question
he
said.
Okay,
are
we
going
to
be
able
to
put
back
some
money
into
the
general
fund
fund
balance
and
it's
three
million
dollars.
H
That
service
we're
spending
at
22.5,
that's
a
little
bit
ahead
of
what
we
would
expect,
but
part
of
that
is
and
then
the
number
one
reason
is
is
we
have
a
beach
Bond?
That's
due
on
August
the
1st,
and
so
when
we
planned
out
that
debt
payment
that
we
just
wanted
to
get
the
first
of
the
quarterly
Beach
fee
collections
in
July,
and
we
may
use
those
funds
to
make
the
debt
payment
most
of
our
principal
payments
are
due
in
March,
April
and
May.
H
After
property
taxes
are
due,
and
so
our
beach
fee,
Bond
payment,
has
been
made
for
the
year
for
the
principal,
but
the
other
ones
will
come
later
in
the
year.
It's
right
where
we
expect
storm
water
again.
Some
water
Revenue
matches
our
property
tax,
Collections,
and
so
it's
lagging
behind
for
the
first
six
months
and
you
can
see
expenditures,
and
so
we
would
expect
that
we
would
show
a
deficit
for
the
first
six
months
and
then
the
second
half
of
the
year
to
be
a
surplus
until
the
end
of
the
year.
H
H
We
built
the
budget
with
an
expectation
of
some
carry
forward
and
that
now
that
we
have
our
actual
numbers
in
for
June
30th,
the
mixture
of
projects
is
just
a
little
bit
different
and
so
we'll
come
back
to
town
Council
and
seek
permission
through
a
budget
ordinance
just
to
reset
those
back
to
those
original
project
amounts,
and
so
we're
not
looking
to
change
projects.
But
we
are
looking
to
just
make
our.
A
John,
this
is
a
good
slide
to
talk
about
CRP
and
the
duration
of
a
project
you're
carrying
22
million
forward
you're
planning
for
9.9,
almost
10
million
dollars
and
on
average
year
over
year.
That
10
to
11
to
12
million
is
what
we
estimate
in
CRP.
Yes,.
H
H
Yes,
and
so
our
expectation
is,
is
that
their
full
speed,
ad
and
you'll
hear
reports
from
Jennifer
Ray
about
the
number
of
different
things
that
they're
doing
but
they're.
They
are
Full,
Speed,
Ahead
and
trying
to
do
as
much
of
that
45
million
dollars
as
possible
just
to
make
those
investments
in
the
island,
but
it
it
will
take
some
time.
And
so
our
expectation
is
is
too
at
best
and
probably
three
years.
H
A
E
To
that
point,
if
I
make
the
when
you're
looking
at
the
CIP,
can
you
break
out
what's
what
what
those
dollars
are
being
used
for
in
terms
of
two
buckets
one
improving
what
we
have
into
building
something
new.
H
E
It's
I
think
that
would
be
important
because
do
you
you
don't
want
to
sit
there
and
feel
good
when
you
have
a
acid,
that's
really
heading
almost
towards
total
depreciation.
I
I
Upgrades
Park
upgrades
pathway
upgrades
that
we
that
we
have
separating
can
report
on
yes,
so
it's
things
that
are
maintaining
and
upgrading
existing
facilities,
along
with
the
new
capital
expenses
that
we
will
execute
with
Council
and
time
energy
support.
There's.
A
I
Jennifer
Ray
did
a
really
good
job
with
the
end-to-end
capital
program
process,
with
planning
design,
construction
drawings
permitting.
You
know
those
approvals
and
then
to
get
into
where
we
are
ready
to
break
around.
So
it's
a
two
or
three
process
to
go
through
that
and
that's
why
we
look
at
it
as
a
program
and
not
necessarily
one
year,
Capital
plan.
So,
okay.
E
One
last
question:
I'm,
not
sure
if
this
is
for
you
John
or
for
Jocelyn,
but
as
you
look
at
real
estate
values
on
the
island
and
someone
were
to
ask
the
question:
are
they
holding?
Are
they
are
they
dropping
or
are
they
increasing?
E
E
In
other
words,
someone
flies
in
here
and
says:
they're
going
to
put
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
invest
in
Hilton
Head
and
they
asked
the
question:
can
you
demonstrate
that
asset
will
grow
in
value
old
or
it
could
be
precarious
and
it
may
decline.
E
All
right,
no,
that's
fine,
because
we're
we're
putting
out
the
sign,
we're
open
for
business,
not
every
kind
of
business
but
we're
open,
and
how
can
we
show
that
our
portfolio
is
moving
in
this
way
holding
or
going
down.
H
It
does
and
thank
you
Mr
chairman,
the
county
publishes
the
duplicate
once
a
month,
and
so
we
can
track
that
through
there
through
once
a
month
and
I
think
that
might
be
a
way
to
do.
That
is,
is
to
look
to
see
how
and
we
we
can
do.
That
is
that
we
can
come
back
and
report
back.
What's
on
Beaufort
County's
total
value
for
the
island.
G
Yeah
I
want
to
take
councilman
Hawkins
thought
this
a
little
bit
further.
John
and
I
appreciate
mistaking
that
taking
that
question
on,
but
I'm
gonna
throw
another
one
at
you
also
to
think
about.
It.
Just
goes
back
to
this
ongoing
discussion.
I
think
reporting
on
the
real
estate
transfer
fee
and
even
the
value
comparison
could
be
somewhat
of
a
lag
to
what's
on
the
ground
currently
and
I.
G
G
As
we
start
to
build
future
budgets,
you
mentioned
normalcy,
I
think
we're
still
trying
to
figure
out
what
normalcy
is
right
and
the
the
not
just
a
transfer
fee,
but
just
the
way
that
real
estate
affects
our
economy
on
helping
air
overall
I
think
it's
important
to
understand.
F
Come
if
I
might
I
have
a
comment
also
about
CIP.
When
we
went
into
the
pandemic,
we
froze
CIP
expenditures,
because
we
didn't
know
what
the
pandemic
was
going
to
do.
F
F
I
participated
in
a
public
meeting
in
Port
Royal
recently,
and
there
was
a
concern
about
how
we
were
going
to
be
able
to
pay
for
these
Park
projects,
and
there
was
a
concern
about
tax
increases
and
I
said
I,
don't
anticipate
a
tax
increase,
rather
what
the
council
has
done
and
what
the
town
has
done
is
we
stopped
CIP
projects
a
few
years
ago?
So
now
we
have
money
in
the
bank
to
spend
this,
and
so,
while
Mid
Island
track,
for
example,
will
be
a
very
expensive
undertaking.
F
It
won't
be
funded
through
a
tax
increase
and
there
was
great
relief
in
the
public
about
that.
So
it's
important
that
this
information
gets
out
so
that
people
do
understand
that,
and
so
you
know
some
sort
of
report
from
you
on
the
town
website.
Consider
concerning
these
issues
could
be
very
beneficial
in
making
sure
the
public
is
aware.
I,
don't
think
they
sign
into
our
meetings
like
this
very
often.
Thank
you.
Thank.
H
You
for
the
comments
and
I
would
also
point
to
on
the
town's
website.
Jennifer's
group
puts
a
lot
of
effort
into
updates
on
CIP
projects,
and
so
like
Sean
had
addressed
is
that
you
can
know
much
more
detail
and
and
where
each
one
of
the
projects
stands.
As
far
as
on
through
the
life
cycle
of
the
project,
I.
J
I
just
wanted
a
Johnson
Steiger
for
the
record
from
the
Hilton
Head
area.
Realtors
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
we
do
have
updated
and
very
thorough
market
reports
that
we
put
out
the
15th
of
every
month
right
around
the
15th.
Sometimes
it's
a
few
days
later
they
break
down
all
transactions,
not
only
by
municipality
in
our
region,
but
by
neighborhood
they're,
very
thorough
and
I
offer
you
those
as
a
resource
either
by
sending
them
to
you
all
or
if
John's
interested,
or
you
also
can
obtain
them
on
our
website
without
a
problem.
J
H
Well,
that's
great,
you
know,
I
I,
look
at
this
as
just
kind
of
a
framework
to
have
a
discussion
and,
what's
important
to
you,
is
important
to
me.
Beach
feet
we're
better
than
the
last
several
years
the
beach
fees
are
up.
We
can
be
glad
about
that.
You
can
kind
of
see
the
the
trends
and
so
we're
we're
good.
There.
Hospitality
is
up
compared
to
the
last
several
years
and
that's
a
good
report
year
to
date
it's
going
to
be
the
same
as
just
the
one
month
and
just
to
know.
H
If
you
look
at
July,
it's
basically
zero.
What
we
collect
in
July
is
really
related
to
June
30th,
and
so
through
the
accrual
process.
We
push
it
all
back
into
June,
30th
numbers,
and
that's
why
you
say
well,
why
didn't
you
collect
anything
in
July?
Well,
it
gets
counted
for
June
and
so
and
then
we
catch
up
at
the
end
of
the
year.
E
H
Would
be
really
I'm
asking
tonight
would
be
helpful,
good
analysis
and
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
information
I'll
see
if
I
can
put
together
a
little
bit
of
information.
Some.
H
Do
no
no,
and
this
is
all
local
option,
and
so
it's
jurisdiction
by.
A
G
Just
I
want
to
follow
I'll,
make
sure
that
I'm
understanding,
Mr
Hawkins
thought
here.
Are
you
asking
for
comparison
of
other
municipalities
so
that
we
can
know
what
we
stand
competitively
to
one
degree
and
also
us
to
have
better
information,
as
we
consider
maybe
a
potential
increase.
You
get.
E
H
Okay,
that-
and
so
this
is
our
same
group-
and
these
are
these-
are
the
same
numbers
but
full
year,
though,
and
I
always
think
this
is
important.
So
this
was
reported
last
time,
but
I
I
like
to
talk
about
the
totals
in
the
last
four
years
of
this
just
sampling-
it's
not
all
our
Revenue,
but
it's
our
representative
sample
that
we
have
been
using
to
kind
of
keep
our
finger
on
the
pulse
of
our
revenues
and
on
our
economy.
H
You
can
see
from
19
to
20
the
first
year
of
covid
are
of
total
revenues
for
this
group
went
down,
but
then
they
bounced
back
nicely
in
21
and
22
and
so
to
come
back
to
what's
23
going
to
be
like
and
I
think
that's
you
know,
the
jury
is
out,
it's
still
early,
but
we'll
keep
a
close
eye
on
it.
But
we
can
look
back
and
say:
21
was
an
excellent
year.
22
is
an
excellent
year
and
we'll
keep
our
eyes
on
23.
H
G
Yeah
and
I
totally
agree
with
councilman
Lennox
here
John
and
as
we
move
into
further
reporting
down
the
road
I
like
the
fact
that
you
are
still
including
2019,
you
know,
2019
was
a
for
the
environment
that
we
went
was
a
really
good
year,
yeah,
okay,
so
as
we
move
further
I
think
we
need
to
keep
that
29
19
in
there.
So
we
stay
relative.
Okay,
the
print
may
get
a
little
smaller,
but
I
think
it's
important
that
that
we
have
it
there
I.
H
And
this
is
just
a
another
version
of
that
and
again
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
Revenue
Services
people
in
in
the
finance
department,
they're
doing
a
bang-up
job
in
collecting
and
so
they're
working
every
single
day
to
make
sure
we
get
what
we're
supposed
to
get
expenditure
control
back
to
Mr
Stanford's.
H
We
always
have
to
look
at
it,
okay,
what
if
Revenue
doesn't
come
in
like
we
expect
or
hope
what
measures
can
we
take
and,
and
so
here's
our
budget,
our
debt
burden
is
modest,
and
so
that
helps
us
and
yeah.
H
Here
we
go
if
we
need
to
and
so
2023
we're
off
to
a
good
start
revenue
strength
continues,
I
think
we'll
see
positive
numbers
on
there,
but
probably
not
as
good
as
on
the
last
couple
of
years.
Town
operations
were
within
budget
Capital
plan
is
moving
forward.
Thank
you,
Sean
for
that
update
as
well.
We
are
reducing
debt.
Let
me
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
H
I
know
our
chair
will
be
interested,
but
our
our
book
of
work,
our
book
of
debt,
that
we
have
as
a
town
is
a
hundred
percent
fixed
rate,
and
so,
as
the
Federal
Reserve
changes
interest
rates,
our
debt
payments
are
the
same,
and
so
we
don't
have
an
interest
rate
risk
there
and
so
I
I
think
that
will
serve
the
town
very
well.
H
What
we
can
invest
in,
but
we
want
to
get
fully
invested,
and
so
we
we
have
spent
a
good
deal
of
effort
to
make
sure
that
we're
fully
invested
in
that
in
that
we
are
monitoring
the
raising
interest
rates
and
so
we're
responding
and
so
I
don't
have
a
slide
up
here,
but
just
know
that
through
August
we
have
collected
more
interest
earnings
than
we
did
all
of
last
year,
and
so
we
were
able
to
take
advantage
of
the
raise
and
interest
rates.
We
don't
try
to
do
any
kind
of
interest
rate.
H
We
don't
want
to
take
interest
rate
risks,
and
so
we
basically
ladder
our
investments
by
month,
as
we
can
afford
to
put
money
aside.
But
as
these
mature
we're
maturing
from
12
basis,
points
15
basis
points
into
two
and
three
percent,
and
so
we're
going
to
see
positive
numbers
on
interest
earnings
this
year.
H
G
G
yeah,
19
million,
but
the
the
piece
of
the
pie
is
what's
getting
my
attention:
okay
and
I'm,
making
an
assumption
that
the
closer
and
closer
we
get
to
2024
budgeting
cycle.
That
piece
of
the
pie
is
going
to
shrink.
H
The
other
one,
the
one
large
one
that's
going
to
come
off,
is
that
this
year
in
2023,
is
the
last
year
of
the
debt
for
the
hurricane
response.
So
the
five
Mills
for
five
years,
I
I,
scheduled
that
in
case
there
was
a
problem
with
collection
in
the
last
year,
and
so
we
collected
in
22
and
we
pay
down
the
last
payment
of
debt
in
23..
And
so
then
our
expectation
is.
Is
that
absent
any
new
debt
that
19
million
dollars
would
be
less
sure.
G
I'll
just
bring
that
to
our
attention,
because
we
we
Face
some
challenges
here
in
our
community
and
we're
really
having
discussions
around
how
we
can
diversify
our
Revenue
stream
to
address
them,
but
the
bonding
capacity
I
think
is
one
of
this
municipality's
biggest
strengths.
Okay,
you
know
we
start
talking
about
how
much
we
really
bring
in
on
a
daily
basis
versus
what
we're
spending
I
mean
that
piece
of
the
equation
is
so
critical,
so
how
we
communicate
that
I
think
is,
is
Gravely
important.
G
H
H
Yeah
and
that's
the
council,
not
only
the
size,
but
just
the
the
priority
is,
is
where
Town
Council
has
the
the
levers
to
move.
Definitely.
E
Fair
to
say
to
uscip
increases
looking
on
the
horizon,
Capital
Access
to
Capital
the
cost.
H
Now,
as
far
as
and
different
than
what
we
have
done
in
the
past,
but
basically
know
that
we
are
on
a
cash
basis,
and
so
we
are
not
borrowing
money
for
this
capital
projects,
and
so
that's
from
a
community
standpoint.
Many
jurisdictions
would
need
to
borrow
money
in
order
to
do
a
45
million
dollar
Capital
plan
and
we're
paying
as
we
go.
H
Okay
and
so
looking
ahead,
we're
working
with
green
Finney
right
now
they
are
working
on
an
audit
working
through
that
normal
process,
and
so
you
will
see
a
final
report.
Official
numbers
coming
soon
and
account
Council
wanted
the
opportunity
to
continue
to
monitor
fiscal
23,
there's
a
lot
on
the
plate
and
we're
open
for
any
comments
or
questions.
E
E
With
this
Top
Line,
then
our
business
license
income
is
X.
If
that
companies
volume
of
activity
drops
to
85
percent
or
60
percent,
our
business
license
is.
E
Go
up
I
just
wondering
if
we
could
create
a
tool
that
would
enable
us
to
look
at
a
major
company
here
and
that
was
operating
at
a
95
level
four
years
ago
and
and
you
would
discount
it
for
present
value,
but
at
four
four
years
ago,
and
now
because
of
the
shortage
of
Labor
they're
operating
at
75
percent.
E
H
Me
let
me
delve
into
that.
I'll
give
it
some
thought
all.
G
Right,
you
have
some
final
comments,
but
just
to
add
to
Mr
Hawkins
here
John
as
you
go
through,
that
exercise
somehow
you're
going
to
have
to
factor
in
inflation,
because
the
Top
Line
may
not
always
adjust
based
on
the
percentage
of
business,
because
we
will
charge
more
to
get
the
one
employee
that
we
can
get
and
that
then
passes
on
to
the
consumer.
So
there's
a
little
trick
to
that
equation.
G
I
think
as
you
bring
it
forward
to
us,
it
may
not
show
the
decline,
but
the
level
of
service
as
it
relates
to
inflation,
also
has
to
be
put
into
the
equation.
Somehow
I,
don't
know
how
you
do
that,
but
I'm
just
throwing
it
out
there,
but
I
wanted
to
thank
you
for
your
presentations
continue
to
evolve.
G
John
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
you
are
now
you
know
framing
it,
so
we
can
have
discussions
around
them
and
you
taking
notes
every
every
time
has
continued
to
make
this
process
better
and
the
product
continues
to
improve
so
I.
Thank
you
for
your
efforts.
Okay,.
H
G
F
We've
been
caught
on
the
Merry-Go-Round
of
Road
usage
fee.
Like
many
communities,
we
began
a
road
usage
fee,
then
the
Supreme
Court
issued
a
decision,
so
we
suspended
collection
of
that
fee.
Now,
in
their
wisdom,
the
general
assembly
has
changed
the
law
back
so
that
the
road
usage
fee
could
be
reimposed.
F
H
I
would
need
to
do
a
little
bit
of
homework
because
I
don't
know,
but
just
for
round
numbers
it
when
it
was
in
effect,
brought
in
about
a
million
dollars,
and
so,
if
you
think
about
the
ability
to
spend
another
million
dollars
on
road
improvements
or
bathing,
that's
what
it
would
provide
if
it
were
assessed.
F
And
that's
certainly
something
that
we
want
to
maintain,
because
the
first
thing
you
hear
from
citizens
is
potholes,
so
it
would
be
interesting
to
to
get
some
data
on
that
in
terms
of
what
others
are
doing,
so
that
Council
can
be
informed
when
the
question
is
put
before
us,
then
I
want
to
supplement
what
my
colleagues
have
said.
I
feel
very
comfortable
in
the
reporting
that
we're
receiving
from
you
and
your
department
and
I
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
John
I,
would
add
to
to
the
lens
comment.
It
has
been
a
roller
coaster
as
it
pertains
to
the
difference
between
a
fee
and
a
tax,
Glenn
I
think
the
town
through
John
and
Mark's
leadership
has
taken
the
most
conservative
approach
to
both
by
that
I
mean
that
we
are
accruing
two
million
dollars
a
year
on
the
Beaufort
County
Hilton
Head
Island
Public
Safety
fee,
and
we
have
a
rescinded
future
collections
on
the
road
usage
feed,
which
is
a
million
dollars
lost.
A
So
the
net
affected
Us
in
in
those
those
balances
that
John
is
showing
is
three
million
bucks.
So
there's
no
nothing
more,
that
you
can
do
to
be
more
conservative
and
in
this
issue
we
feel
strongly
both
ways.
A
And
it's
it's
working
John
in
the
business
license
Revenue.
This
is
the
first
full
year
upcoming
that
we'll
have
the
business
license:
revenue
from
single,
short-term
rental
property
owners.
B
H
H
We're
going
to
find
out
soon,
okay
and
so
I,
I,
think
and-
and
you
know
you
think
about
things
that
looking
ahead,
we're
going
to
find
out
a
lot
more
on
short-term
rentals
and
we're
going
to
find
a
lot
more
about.
Just
the
short-term
rental
permit
fee
will
be
there
as
well,
and
so
Town
Council
was
going
to
soon
get
a
lot
of
information.
K
So
I
question
whether
or
not
we
ought
to
be
looking
at
segmenting
the
business
license
in
a
way
that
we
can
begin
to
understand
Trends
within
businesses
in
our
community
and
then
maybe
also
look
at
new
business
licenses
in
and
outgoing
non-ref,
renewing
businesses
and
I
I.
Think
if
we
begin
to
track
that
over
time,
we'll
have
a
canary
in
the
mind
kind
of
a
situation
that
I
think
would
be
beneficial
right
on
and
then
secondly,
bill
on
the
hospitality
tax.
K
It's
my
understanding
that
the
state
legisl
the
state
law
caps
it
at
one
percent
and
for
us
to
be
able
to
increase
that
we
would
have
to
go
back
to
the
state
legislature
and
have
that
law
changed.
So
it's
capped.
I
had
a
conversation
with
Senator
Davis
yesterday,
and
the
idea
of
increasing
taxes
is
not
the
most
popular
thing
for
politicians
to
contemplate.