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Town of Hilton Head Island, Public Planning Committee, October 27, 10 AM
Meeting Agenda is available at https://www.hiltonheadislandsc.gov/towncouncil/agendas
A
Morning,
chairman
Ames
has
a
personal
conflict
and
will
not
be
able
to
chair
the
meeting,
so
he
has
asked
me
to
pinch
hit
for
him
and
I'll
do
just
that
by
calling
this
morning's
public
planning
committee
meeting
of
Thursday
October
27th
2022
to
order
Krista
have
we
complied
with
Freedom
of
Information.
Yes,.
A
A
A
B
A
D
My
name
is
Missy
lewick
I'm,
the
community
planning
manager.
It
is
nice
to
be
in
front
of
you
this
morning
to
talk
about
short-term
rentals,
so
this
update
I'm
going
to
cover
the
implementation
efforts
of
the
short-term
rental
ordinance
that
was
adopted
and
I'll
cover
some
of
the
operational
Staffing
and
coordination
with
our
software
vendor
and
also
explains
some
of
the
future
next
steps.
D
So,
since
the
ordinance
has
been
adopted,
we
have
established
a
short-term
rental
implementation
team.
You
can
see
that
it's
a
inter-departmental
group.
We
have
Finance
Community
planning,
code
enforcement,
GIS
and
Communications
on
the
team
to
implement
this
effort,
also
just
to
give
a
reminder
of
what
the
ordinance
entails,
but
the
short-term
rental
ordinance
was
adopted
in
May
and
it
requires
now
a
short-term
rental
permit,
as
well
as
establishes
regulations
for
parking,
noise
management,
trash
storage
and
removal,
as
well
as
establishes
a
process
for
complaints
and
tracking
and
violations.
D
So
we
had
a
kickoff
meeting
with
gov,
OS
and,
and
we've
been
working
with,
that
large
short-term
rental
implementation
team
with
them.
We
are
meeting
weekly
as
a
group
to
work
through
all
of
the
implementation
steps,
some
of
the
progress
that
we've
made.
Currently,
we
are
currently
actively
seeking
additional
staff,
including
three
temporary
administrative
assistants
and
additional
Code
Enforcement
Officers.
We
are
working
on
the
short-term
rental
portal
and
that
includes
establishing
interdepartmental
workflows
and
processes,
as
well
as
finalizing
our
Good
Neighbor
brochure
and
other
collateral.
D
Also,
one
of
the
major
key
points
that
we're
working
on
is
we're
working
with
GIS
on
an
application
that
will
help
with
the
site
plan
requirement.
So
all
of
the
single-family
short-term
rentals
are
going
to
have
to
turn
in
a
site
plan
that
shows
where
their
parking
is
located,
as
well
as
their
trash
location
and
so
GIS
is
creating
an
app
to
assist
people
with
that
site.
Plan
requirement.
D
What's
coming
up
in
November
Community?
Well,
actually,
next
week
already,
we
are
going
to
launch
some
public
information
meetings,
two
meetings
on
November
3rd
and
one
on
November
17,
and
we
will
it.
We
will
have
additional
meetings
as
well
through
our
Communications
and
Outreach
efforts
to
inform
short-term
rental
owners
and
operators
on
what
these
permit
requirements
are.
We'll
have
step-by-step
processes
to
as
to
how
to
utilize
the
the
portal
when
it's
launched,
and
so
those
meetings
are
going
to
be
starting
already
next
month.
D
We're
also
going
to
move
into
software
testing
in
November
and
December
we're
going
to
have
some
staff
training
and
then
we're
going
to
create
the
standard
operating
procedures
for
those
temporary
positions
that
will
be
assisting
the
public
with
and
and
reviewing
all
of
the
the
applications
that
come
in
and
then
in
December.
We
will
work
with
gov
OS
to
prepare
registration
letters
to
alert
everyone
as
to
the
Portal's
opening
in
early
January
and
so
really
we're
preparing
for
the
portal
to
to
go
live
on
January
3rd
of
next
year.
D
C
D
Are
actively
doing
that
research
right
now
and
in
early
December
we
should.
We
should
have
some
data.
What
they're
doing
now
our
GIS
division
gave
them
our
parcel
data
and
they're
working
to
match
all
of
those
advertisements
that
are
out
there
with
our
our
parcel
data,
and
so
we
should
have
that
full
fully
scrubbed
in
early
December
and
we'll
we'll
be
able
to
produce
some
of
those
Maps
excellent.
D
F
From
the
question,
thank
you,
the
it
seems
like
we'll
be
speeding
up
here.
As
far
as
getting
information
in
front
of
us
based
off
of
the
capabilities
of
the
software,
there
was
one
charge
set
out
that
we've
not
really
talked
about,
and
that
was
the
placement
of
this
advisory
committee
is
that
within
the
timeline
somewhere.
D
Yes,
sir,
so
the
and
just
the
the
phase,
two,
the
main
components
that
were
identified
in
that
that
we
haven't
yet
started,
were
to
establish
an
advisory
committee
on
short-term
rentals,
examine
High,
occupancy,
short-term
rentals,
examine
High
floor
area
ratio.
Single-Family
structures
examine
occupancy
limits,
review
of
Saturday
check-ins,
as
well
as
the
impacts
of
in
the
increasing
number
of
short-term,
short-term
rentals
and
and
how
that
Trends
towards
the
future.
So
that's
all
in
a
future
phase,
but
but
it's
not
yet
on
the
immediate
radar.
But
it's
coming
soon.
E
D
A
A
G
G
G
Most
of
the
people
in
this
room
and
on
this
island
were
once
tourists
and
they
support
the
lifestyle
that
we
all
enjoy.
However,
there
needs
to
be
a
balance
and,
as
we
go
through
this
and
I've
said
this
over
and
over
again,
if
there's
an
opportunity
to
meet
with
all
the
folks
who
control
the
bulk
of
the
rental
short-term
rental
market.
G
If
that
could
be
staggered
just
over
two
days,
instead
of
having
Saturday
to
Saturday,
have
Friday
to
Friday
and
Saturday
and
Saturday
and
even
Sunday
to
Sunday
many
other
communities
like
ours
that
are
Resort
in
their
orientation
and
in
their
economy
do
the
same
thing
and
it
can
be
done
on
a
voluntary
basis
without
an
orange
or
you
can
incentivize
it
by
giving
folks
a
break
on
on
their
business
license.
If
they
do
it
the
right
way.
Just
a
suggestion.
I've
made
the
suggestion
for
10
years.
It's
never
gotten
any
traction,
but
something
to
consider.
H
Okay,
there
we
go
good
morning.
My
name
is
Jeff
Buckley
I'm,
the
town
engineer
happy
to
be
before
you
this
morning.
What
I
want
to
present
is
this
is
a
strategic
action
plan
initiative
and
so
I
want
to
give
you
an
outline
and
overview
of
where
we
are
today
and
where
we're
going
and
no
action
needed
on
this
item
either,
although
I
would
like
feedback.
So
if
you
have
any
questions,
ideas
that
pop
up
along
the
presentation,
please
interject
and
let
me
know
and
and
I'll
try
to
document
those
and
going
forward.
We
will.
H
H
Why
we're
doing
what
we're
doing
I
was
speaking
with
one
of
our
residents
before
the
meeting
here
about
you
know
we're
a
little
late
to
the
game,
I've
gone
to
conferences,
of
course,
and
been
around
and
seen
so
many
plans
already
in
place,
and
so
it's
a
good
thing
that
we're
doing
it
now
and
very
excited
to
be
working
on.
It
comes
from
the
comp
plan.
Also,
this
was
approved
a
few
years
ago.
H
You
know
I
put
together
a
statement
up
here,
improve
the
resiliency
of
the
island
against
threats
of
climate
change
and
sea
level
rise
to
better
protect
our
residents,
infrastructure,
public
and
private
assets,
natural
environment,
quality
of
life,
with
recommendations
for
near
Mid
and
long-term
actions.
And,
as
you
look
at
a
lot
of
these
plans,
that's
the
way
most
people
do
it.
H
They
will
have
near
Mid
and
long-term
actions
and,
right
now,
as
we
build
the
plan
and
develop
it,
you
know
we
will
hone
in
and
select
those,
but
right
now,
I
would
probably
say:
2030
would
be
near-term,
2050,
midterm
and
2100
long
term.
You
know
we're
almost
in
2023
20
37
years
away,
so
to
implement
some
of
the
the
near-term
auction
items
and
budget
and
build
those
I
think
that's
a
that's
a
doable
thing,
but
but
those
are
kind
of
the
timeline
the
Milestones
I
have
in
mind
for
the
near
Mid
and
long-term
actions.
H
The
extents
of
the
plan,
of
course,
will
be
the
time
limits,
causeways
and
bridges
to
the
mainland,
of
course,
very,
very
important.
The
schedule,
as
outlined
in
the
Strategic
action
plan.
We
just
started
here
a
month
or
two
ago
we're
going
to
run
the
first
phase
up
through
the
second
quarter
of
next
year
and
then
begin.
The
second
phase
and
I'll
speak
more
to
the
schedule
here
near
the
end
of
the
presentation
and
the
stakeholders.
Of
course,
the
citizens
Property
Owners
visitors
utilities,
all
the
government
agencies,
Healthcare
business
owners,
Etc.
H
Is
thing
on
the
beach
that
is
on
a
yeah,
a
king
tide
and
so
I
didn't
understand.
You
swear
Singleton
Beach
at
the
end
of
single
Beach
Road.
Yes,
sir,
so
yeah
very
impactful
picture
there
partnering,
as
I
said,
a
lot
of
people
have
done
a
lot
of
work
already
to
date.
These
are
the
main
agencies.
I've
been
speaking
with
South
Carolina
office
of
resiliency.
They
have
a
resiliency,
planner,
hope
Warren,
who
I've
been
communicating
with
and
she's,
been
very
helpful.
The
sea
Grant
Consortium.
H
That
is
really
the
universities
of
South
Carolina
that
can
apply
science
and
and
folks
working
on
protecting
the
coast,
doing
things
along
the
coastline.
That
is
a
very
good
agency.
They
compile
plans,
data
and
and
other
you
know,
useful
information,
so
I'll
be
working
with
them.
Noah,
of
course,
they've
got
all
the
climate
data,
that's
the
best
source
of
data
and
FEMA
through
Homeland
Security.
They
have
well,
they
have
grants.
Frankly,
in
funding
and
other
plans
a
way
we
can.
H
We
can
help,
and
so
we
we
have
applied
for
two
grants
to
let
you
know
the
hazard
mitigation
grant
program
and
then
the
brick
Grant,
building,
resiliency
and
infrastructure,
certain
communities
and
because
we
got
shortlisted
for
one
of
those
grants,
the
other
one.
They
said
we're
going
to
take
you
off
the
list
and
put
you
on
that
and
so
anyhow,
we
should
know
in
a
few
months
whether
we're
successful
in
winning
that
Grant
infrastructure
facilities.
We
have
lists
already
in
place
for
our
emergency
action
plan.
Debris
management
operations
Etc.
So
so
we
have
those
lists.
H
I
will
refine
that
and
vet
it
and
make
sure
this
is
the
proper
list
for
resiliency.
But,
as
you
can
imagine,
utilities
all
the
service
providers,
Transportation
Systems,
our
storm
drainage
system,
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
and
then
Healthcare
and
public
facilities.
I
know
Mr
Brown
during
the
beach
management
presentation
asked
the
other
day
about.
H
You
can
prevent
backflow
coming
back
up
into
the
system,
so
retrofitting
a
lot
of
those
outfalls
with
better
backflow
prevention,
maybe
more
pump
stations
in
our
future
that
one
in
the
bottom
photo
is
Wexford
Plantation
right
at
the
border
of
Long
Cove
and
Wexford
as
it
empties
into
Broad
Creek.
We
have
a
you
know
a
massive
structure.
Back
there
we
have
two
big
pumps.
We
have
gravity
Culvert,
straining
out
as
well.
We
have
a
emergency
diesel
generator
up
there.
H
H
Good
they
held
up
well,
we
had
an
issue
back
at
this
particular
Pump
Station,
where
the
The
Surge
the
tide
came
around
through
the
Long
Cove
Side
and
flowed
back
over
and
so
to
prevent
a
recirculation
of
water.
We
built
up
a
burn
to
better.
You
know,
make
this
more
functional
and
resilient,
but
yeah.
That
was
one
of
the
things
we
did
then,
and
as
we
look
at
future
projections
for
sea
level
rise,
there
may
be
more
of
that
in
store
for
us.
C
H
A
little
it
right,
a
freak
anomaly
yeah
during
that
there
is
a
box
covered
under
us-278
I,
think
it's
eight
foot
high
by
12
foot
wide
or
something
like
that-
maybe
not
that
large
of
a
dimension
but
anyhow
a
truck
bed
liner,
a
big
plastic
truck
bed
liner
floated
up
and
wedged
and
mashed
against
the
Culvert
opening.
And
so
you
know
a
few
hundred
feet
down.
You've
got
a
multi-million
dollar
Pump
Station
pumping
and
you
had
this
freak
blockage,
and
so.
C
H
This
is
Harbor
Island,
which
is
you
know
in
Beaver
County,
but
talking
about
existing
studies
and
plans,
we've
been
compiling
other,
you
know
from
around
Coastal
U.S
and
even
other
countries
looking
to
see
what
they
do
and
and
taking
all
those
in
I'm
going
to
do
a
benchmarking
analysis
like
what
are
the
best
parts
of
those
plans
kind
of
what
what
Target?
That
is
the
key
thing.
I
think
in
all
of
this
is
what
Target
you
pick
on
the
sea
level
rise
right.
So
there's
a
lot
of
data
out
there.
H
You
know
NOAA
has
all
these
projections
and
the
major
categories,
they
will
say,
are
low
intermediate,
low
intermediate
intermediate
high
and
high,
and
so
you
can
pick
one
of
those
five
curves
and
they'll
say
in
10
years
this
curve
says
it's
going
to
raise
this
much
in
30
years.
It's
going
to
raise
this
much,
and
so
you
know,
if
you
apply
like
the
Goldilocks
principle,
you
would
think
intermediate
is
most
logical.
H
The
choice,
if
you
target
too
low
of
a
scenario
and
and
turns
out
that
you
know
it
really
was
too
low
and
generations
later
they're
having
to
redo
and
rebuild
things
that
we
did.
You
know
you
pick
too
high
of
a
Target
you
overspend,
maybe
you
don't
have
the
funding,
but
but
you
build
unnecessarily
so
so
that
is
a
very,
very
key
decision
in
this
whole
thing.
H
What
Target
scenario
we
pick
and
intermediate
seems
to
be.
You
know
most
common
or
most
logical
thing
to
pick
one
of
the
things
we
did.
We
put
a
tide
gauge
out
there,
there's
a
group,
that's
trying
to
get
more
data,
more
tied
data
up
and
down
the
coast,
and
so
I
think
it
was
500
we
paid
for
this
thing,
solar
power.
You
know
it
shoots
a
beam
down
at
the
water
surface
and
and
relays
data
back.
This
group
has
a
website.
H
H
Well,
we're
just
monitoring
you
know,
like
you
know,
we
could
look
at
a
third,
you
know,
for
instance,
you
know
when
Ian
came,
we
could
say
here's
how
hot
it
was
here.
They
look
up
in
Georgetown.
Here's
how
it
was
there
Etc,
so
nothing
real
eventful.
Thus
far
you
know
Ian
came
but
but
otherwise
it's
just
checking
the
daily
tides
and
measure
water.
H
A
H
We
have
water
quality,
water,
quality,
monitoring,
we're
doing
I'm
wrong
something
different,
okay,
Town
ordinances,
you
know
went
through
and
looked
at
the
ones
related
to
resiliency
anything.
You
know
with
Building
Development
well
and
protections
flood
zones,
Etc,
so
I
think
there's
opportunity
room
there
to
to
review
all
these
update
these
better,
protect
future
development.
Etc.
Yes,.
C
Back
to
the
tide
gauge,
we
only
had
to
spend
five
hundred
dollars.
It
seems
to
me
we
should
find
two
or
three
other
locations
to
do
that,
so
that
we
can
get
better
data
and
if
one
of
them
happens
to
be
damaged
or
whatever,
then
we'll
still
have
the
data
coming
in.
So
for
that
kind
of
investment,
let's
seriously
look
at
getting
more
yes,.
E
C
E
The
shoe
okay,
the
other
thing
is
on
16
10,
12
rules
of
measurement.
How
does
that
relate
to
to
this?
That's
generally,
the
way
I
know
that
particular
ordinance.
It
has
to
do
with
the
height
of
buildings,
where
we
start
measuring
from
sea
level
mean
sea
level.
How
does
that
relate
to
this?
In
particular,.
H
That
you
know
we
both
base
those
on
the
nfrp,
the
the
firm
Federal
insurance
rate.
Maps
just
wanted
to
look
at
it,
so
so
we'll
look
and
see
what
the
building
elevations
are
being
set
at.
You
know
those
models
and
mapping
were
redone
just
looking
at
Future
conditions.
If
we
want
to
look
at
2050
and
2100
and
and
see,
should
we
be,
you
know,
raising
that
I
think
it's
prudent
during
this
exercise
to
look
at
that.
Okay,.
H
You
know
this
thing's
called
a
SWOT
analysis,
and
so
the
S
is
for
strengths,
W's
for
weaknesses,
O's
for
opportunities
and
T
is
for
threats,
and
so
you
know
when
you
look
at
the
strengths
and
and
and
say
well,
we
have
good
public
interest.
We
we
have
people
and
staff
play
manager,
Stillwater,
Engineers,
Etc
and
we'll
be
talking
about
a
consulting
firm
later
to
help
develop
the
plan.
H
Current
funding
for
initial
studies,
we
budgeted
250
000
in
our
stormwater
utility
budget
last
year,
this
fiscal
year
that
that
is
so.
We
have
that
money
right
now.
We've
applied
for
the
FEMA
Grant,
which
is
a
56
000
if
we're
successful
and
and
we'll
try
to
leverage
that
money
with
other
grants.
If,
if
we
have
the
opportunity
to
do
so,
GIS
and
Survey
data,
when
other
engineers
and
people
come
here
to
do
projects
they're,
always
very
complementary
of
our
good
data,
we've
done
a
good
job.
You
know
with
lidar
and
topography
data.
H
You
know,
Missy
was
mentioning
parcel
data
yeah.
When
these
folks
come
here,
they
say
a
lot
of
times
when
they
do
these
studies
or
these
plans.
Half
the
battle
is
development
of
data
and
it's
costly,
And
Timely,
and
so
we
have
good
data
and,
as
we
go
forward,
a
lot
of
this
analysis
will
do
with
economic
impacts
right,
so
we'll
do
cost
benefits.
If
you
protect
all
of
these
properties.
H
With
these
types
of
developments
on
them,
you
know
you
could
spend
X
to
protect
Y
and
look
at
the
cost,
benefits
and
so
I
think
that's
a
really
strong
piece
of
our
Arsenal
here.
As
we
do
this.
It's
our
good
data
established
Beast,
renourishment
program.
You
know
some
folks,
don't
have
it
like.
We
were
talking
about
the
other
day.
Some
communities
is
kind
of
every
property
owner
for
themselves
or
they
rely.
You
know
on
the
government,
the
federal
government
that
is
to
come
in
and
re-nourish
with
the
Corps
of
Engineers.
H
H
H
Well,
we've
only
had
this
one
a
year,
I
mean
all
the
projections
and
know
what
projections
are
that
is
increasing,
but
yeah
this.
This
is
part
of
a
a
group
of
of
data,
sets
a
group
of
gauges,
and
so
it's
helping
the
folks
up
and
down
the
coast
to
to
get
this.
But
yeah
like
you
were
saying
we
will
add
a
couple
more
just
for
redundancy
and
more
data
I.
H
E
Wouldn't
we
be
able
also
to
collect
some
data
from
the
beach
renourishment
projects,
in
terms
of
where
we
see
that
high
tide
that
high
water
mark
being
the
amount
of
sand?
That's
been
added
into
calculations
within
that
it
seems
to
me
to
be
some
relationship
there
that
we
might
be
able
to
gain
some
insight
into
our
own
beaches
and
where
the
water
line
is.
H
E
F
I
guess
when
I
read
strengths,
weaknesses
and
opportunities,
I
guess
I'm,
somewhat
I'm
being
pushy
a
little
bit
here:
okay
Jeff,
but
bear
with
me
all
right:
I'm
not
sold
on
our
strengths
being
actual
strengths.
Okay
and
back
to
the
line
of
of
thought
and
questioning
this
coming
before
you,
the
the
original.
F
F
We
have
no
idea
right
and
I
think,
as
we
start
to
talk
about
resiliency
over
the
next
20
30
40
years,
that
Baseline
of
data,
which
it
says
we
have
I,
think
we
need
to
be
very
concrete
and
certain
about
what
that
is,
okay
and
and
how
we're
really
going
to
measure
it
and
the
the
the
other
one
that
I'm
I'm
really
paying
attention
to.
Is
this
storm
water
utility
flood
protection
infrastructure?
F
Now
there's
been
there's
been
talk
as
as
I've
attended,
most
of
the
candidate
forums
about
you
know,
infrastructure
condition
all
right.
A
matter
of
fact,
there's
been
a
number
thrown
out
a
few
times
as
to
how
much
it
would
cost
us
to
repair
our
current
infrastructure
system
around
stormwater
I'm,
not
sure
if
you've
got
that
number
Jeff.
F
But
the
fact
that
the
numbers
being
called
out
loud
is
concerning
to
me
because
I've
never
heard
what
it's
going
to
cost
us
to
bring
our
infrastructure
up
to
par
right,
so
I
think
there's
opportunity
in
the
infrastructure
system
that
we
currently
have.
But
by
no
means
are
we
cutting
edge
or
state
of
the
art
at
the
moment.
F
Right
I
think
we
want
to
get
there
and
when
you
look
at
our
our
budget,
I
mean
that
slither
of
storm
water
I
mean
that's,
that's
not
gonna
get
us
anywhere,
so
I
think
I'm
looking
at
strengths,
at
least
on
this
screen
as
more
opportunities
as
we
start
to
dive
into
this
conversation.
Because,
let's
face
it
is
it
a
strategic
plan
to
some
degree
is
brand
new
for
us,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
emphasis
is
put
on
that
we
are
behind.
E
H
You
say
fix
the
stormwater
system.
I
mean
is
that
you
know
it's
a
system
that
that
will
break
down
and
fail
over
time.
There
may
be
a
pipe
and
Sea.
Pines
is
fine.
Today,
in
five
years
now
it
fails
and
corrodes
and
needs
replaced,
and
so
we
over
20
years
have
done.
You
know
dozens
of
capital
projects.
H
You
know
all
these
pump
stations,
you
know
big
Concrete
Culverts
under
under
278s
and
major
roadways,
and
so
so
we
from
the
original
Masters
stormwater
study
back
in
1995,
we
developed
this
big
project
list
of
deficiencies,
and
so
over
the
decades
we've
done
dozens
of
these
projects,
and
so,
where
we
have
found
you
know,
pipes
too
small
need
a
big
pipe.
You
know
can't
rely
on
gravity,
pipes
and
ditches.
We
need
to
build
pump
stations,
so
we've
done
that
and
over
time.
Yes,
it's
a
recurring
program.
H
You
need,
you
know
like
maintaining
your
car
or
or
anything
your
house.
So
so
yes,
there
will
be
operations
and
maintenance
costs,
as
we
do
this
and
to
build
resiliency.
That
may
you
know
be
a
lot
more
Capital
upgrades
of
we
used
to
think
we
call
it
a
tail
water
condition.
Where
do
do
all
these
systems
empty
out
into,
and
that's
your
starting
point.
H
So
if
you
pick
a
mean
high
tide
and
say
well
assume
the
water
is
going
to
be
this
High,
we
need
to
get
all
this
runoff
from
our
developed
lands
out
there
into
the
ocean,
and
so,
if
we're
going
to
pick
a
new
standard
and
say
you
know,
we
used
to
think
it
was
this
High.
Well
now,
let's
say
you
know:
30
years
miles
could
be
this
high.
So
all
new
developments,
all
new
designs
are
going
to
have
to
be
predicated
on
that.
H
H
I
listed
it
as
a
strength,
you
know,
I
see
what
a
lot
of
other
communities
do
and
and
we
have
taken
the
initiative
to
make
agreements
with
you
know
private
communities,
usually
the
the
premise
of
most
utilities
is
what
qualifies
for
service
is
any
system
that
conveys
public
runoff.
So
a
drop
of
rain
falls
on
a
public
road
right
away
and
you
trace
that
where
it
goes,
it
leaves
the
right-of-way.
It
goes
through
Mr
Brown's
property.
Then
it
comes
through
Miss,
Becker's
property
and
we
say
your
systems
qualify.
H
You
know
if
you'd
like
to
give
us
an
easement,
then
the
government
has
a
program
we'll
maintain
that
system
upgraded
Etc.
So
what
most
communities
that
have
you
know
most
I'll,
say
cities
or
counties
that
have
private
communities.
They
don't
go
in
there.
They
say
you
chose
to
live
in
a
private
Community
maintain
your
own
infrastructure.
What
we
have
done,
though
we
we
have
agreements
and
we
go
into
communities
and
we
maintain
their
systems.
H
So
for
us
looking
at
a
island-wide
approach
and
we
have
these
agreements
and
I
think
it's
a
good
thing
right
and
we
have
a
devoted
stormwater
fee.
Yeah
we
could
up
that
if
we
need
to
right,
but
it's
a
good
thing,
I
think
we're
starting
from
a
good
point
that
we
can
address
resiliency
through
these
measures
and.
C
C
I
think
it
is
incumbent
on
the
town
to
draw
a
baseline
yeah.
We
can
call
it
January,
1
2023.,
where
that
tide
gauge
or
those
tide
gauges
are
reading,
and
then
we
can
look
at
that
with
a
report
from
you
periodically
saying
that
you
know
it's
risen
by
a
quarter
of
an
inch
in
the
past
year.
That
is
the
kind
of
data
that
we
need
in
order
to
do
proper
planning.
So
I
suggest
that
you
draw
that
Baseline
now.
H
H
You
know:
weaknesses,
lack
of
a
regional
plan,
I
think
as
we
do
these
types
of
things
working
with
other
folks
and
and
believe
me
I'm,
going
to
talk
to
Beaufort,
County
and
Bluffton
and
share
our
information
and
data
and
if
they
want
to,
they
want
to
do
similar
things
so
loco
other
groups-
yes,
I,
think
you
know
we
don't
want
to
waste
individual
efforts.
We
do
something
they
do
something
so
I
think
we
can
work
together
and
get
some
Synergy.
You
know
the
ordinance
updates,
we'll
look
at
ours.
H
H
So
when
there
is
a
you
know,
when
the
feds
in
the
state,
when
folks
agree
on
adjusting
these
curves
and
these
projections
and
scenarios
we'll
make
that
part
of
our
stormwater
regulations
most
likely
as
well.
You
know
the
the
25-year
storm
used
to
mean
this
much
rain
in
24
hours.
Now
it
means
this
much
rain
and
and
so
we'll
look
at
all
that
as
we
update
our
ordinances
opportunities.
Of
course,
we're
always
going
to
be
looking
seeking
out
grants
from
the
state
and
federal
agencies.
H
Opportunity
to
you
know,
provide
new
guidance
on
development,
our
land
acquisition
program.
We
could
Target
low-lying
Lands
hope
to
you
know
whether
they're
Wetlands
or
what
or
other
means
there
might
be
from
keeping
them
being
developed.
This
might
be
an
opportunity
for
us
to
go
ahead
and
buy
them
and
that
storage.
You
know
we
look
at
where's.
The
water
want
to
go.
If
there
are
areas
it's
never
going
to
be
developed,
the
water
can
be
stored
there
no
harm
to
anyone.
Then
that's
a
good
thing:
threats,
I,
just
listed
degradation.
H
Failure
of
the
infrastructure,
of
course,
losses
of
property,
increased
flood
insurance
rates,
Coastal
erosion,
that's
something
we're
combating
with
a
beach
management
plan,
increased
frequency
and
severity
of
all
sources
of
flooding.
I.
Think
that's
what
you
you
see
in
the
news
and
when
you
look
at
Noah
and
climatologists
reports,
increased
frequency
and
severity
of
saline
intrusion,
I
mean
the
psds
have
already
been
combating
that
and
have
resilient
plans.
H
I
think
you
know
the
other
versus
osmosis
plants
up
at
the
Jenkins
Island
and
South
Island
PSD
has
those
so
they've
already
been
dealing
with
that
making
sure
our
you
know.
Freshwater
aquifers
are
not
contaminated
with
salt
water
and
we
have
plenty
of
drinking
water
and
then
delays
in
in
funding
issues
going
forward
just
being
diligent
to
keep
on
schedule
and
try
to
plan
accordingly.
So
we
have
funding
to
implement
these
things.
F
It
is
somewhat
more
pocketized
right,
I
mean
we
know
we
have
levels
of
poverty
that
just
in
small
pockets
and
a
lot
of
times.
We
kind
of
ignore
that
so
I'm
just
curious
how
that
relationship
with
the
county
will
submit
itself
so
that
we
are
also
eligible
for
these
funds
that
are
that
are
coming
down.
F
H
H
H
Make
that
a
critical
section
of
the
report
that
here's,
what
the
gauges
are
showing
here's
the
projections
Etc
laying
out
you
know
which
ordinances
do
we
need
to
look
at
and
reconsider,
then
going
forward
critical
structure,
identification,
we'll
get
the
goals,
objectives,
extends
more
more
complete
and
fleshed
out
and
compiling
all
the
the
data
that
a
consultant
will
need
to
work
with
and
work
with
other
other
communities.
I
expect
to
report
back.
H
You
know
to
to
this
committee
or
Town
Council,
probably
early
in
in
23
sometime
in
the
spring,
we'll
say
where
we
are
and
where
we're
going.
At
that
point,
I
mentioned
we
have
250
000
in
the
Stillwater
budget,
for
you
know,
consultant
or
outside
work
this
year
and
we're
trying
to
get
more
monies
through
grants.
H
Then,
by
next
summer,
looking
at
code
changes
we'll
go
through
the
proper
committees
and
make
recommendations,
of
course,
using
our
wonderful
Communications
Group.
To
put
the
word
out
to
folks
here's
what
to
expect.
You
know
where
we
have
that
data
and
we
are
honing
in
on
on
these.
This
is
the
scenario
we
are
going
to
Target
and
use
in
our
plan
and
recommendations
and
budgets.
H
H
C
H
A
Think
there's
an
incredible
amount
of
valuable
information
in
that
get
that
to
Council
in
advance
of
your
Workshop.
Okay
and
storm
water
system
is
a
target
of
frequent
conversation
and
I.
Think
it's
important
to
recall
that
in
2016
1718
we
had
back
to
back
to
back
storms
and
the
system
held
up.
There
was
the
Black
Swan
event
that
you
talked
about
where
that
piece
of
plywood
clogged
the
one
system,
but
other
than
that
the
system
held
up
so
I,
don't
I,
don't
see
storm
Water
Rising
to
the
level
of
crisis.
H
Yeah,
we're
in
good
stead,
I
think
compared
to
most
other
folks.
We
we
have
funding,
we've
been
building
capital
projects,
we've
been
maintaining
the
systems
and
a
lot
of
the
localized
flooding.
You
know
when,
when
we
have
these
events,
it
could
be
pine
straw
on
the
inlets
down
the
street
from
your
house.
That
is
the
culprit.
You
know
the
pipes
are
big
enough.
The
catchment
system
is
in
place
and
it's
just
debris
flowing
through
it,
but
you
know
kind
of
the
nature
of
our
developments
and
how
we
live.
A
The
system
for
the
Public's
benefit
the
storm
water
fee
generates
a
little
over
five
million
dollars
a
year
of
that
five
million.
Approximately
half
is
new
construction
and
maintenance,
and
the
balance
is
Debt
Service
and
operating
costs,
so
it
generates
some
income,
certainly
not
enough
to
allow
us
to
catch
up
with
all
the
Deferred
maintenance.
That's
that's
needed,
but
it
keeps
the
system
running.
H
And
yes
going
forward,
you
know,
as
we
go
through
budget
season
in
the
spring
of
the
year.
One
of
the
things
we
look
at
you
know
projecting
out
five
years
out.
Do
we
need
to
raise
the
fee?
You
know
we
have
not
raised
it,
though,
in
several
several
years,
I
forget
the
last
time,
seven
or
eight
years-
yeah,
yes,
sir,
but
but
we
look
at
that
and
if
we
feel
there's
a
need
a
justifiable
need,
we
would
recommend
that
through
the
budget
process.
J
Good
morning,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
of
commenting
when
I
saw
Mr
buckler
this
morning.
I
said
you
know.
I
want
to
give
you
a
virtual
hug
to
see
this
on
the
agenda
I've
only
been
advocating
for
this
for
four
years
and
when
I
appeared
at
your
strategic
plan,
Workshop
I
saw
this
proposed
for
the
first
quarter.
2023
and
I
suggested
it
be
accelerated.
So
the
first
comments,
I
should
have
said
are.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
J
We
are
behind
the
times.
I
have
pointed
out
a
number
of
times
that
Beaufort
County
adopted
a
sea
level
rise
adaptation
plan
in
2015,
Folly
Beach
in
2017.
As
Mr
Buckley
mentioned,
a
number
of
coastal
jurisdictions
have
already
adopted
a
resiliency
plan,
so
I'm
I'm
really
excited
today
to
see
that
we
are
moving
forward
with
this
and
I
stand
ready
to
assist
with
it.
I
know
that
there's
a
group
working
on
a
Consortium
on
sea
level
rise
adaptation
for
next
spring.
I
think
that's
a
will
be
a
great
asset.
J
Another
thing,
I've
advocated
for
is
an
Eco
Institute
in
cooperation
with
uscb.
We
have
excellent
resources
here.
The
Sea
Island
Consortium
has
already
been
mentioned
and
that's
a
great
resource.
The
final
suggestion,
the
final
thing
I'll
say,
is
a
suggestion,
and
that
is
included
in
this
timeline
is
hiring
a
consultant.
Consultants
can
be
great,
but
what
I'm
concerned
about
is
not
the
cause.
I
understand,
there's
funding
for
that,
but
the
delay
in
coming
up
with
a
plan.
J
There
are
lots
of
wonderful
plans
out
there
now
that
can
be
adapted
specifically
for
Hilton
Head
Island,
because
we
have
some
expertise
here
to
do
that.
So
I
would
urge
us
to
move
forward
with
a
plan
and
and
to
call
upon
the
expertise
that
we
have
here
in
South
Carolina
to
develop
that
plan
and
if
we
need
to
hire
someone
in
the
future
to
help
us
to
come
up
with
systems.
Fine,
but
let's
not
delay
anymore.
But
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Patsy.
J
J
I
A
I
Sorry
I
apologize
for
running
in
and
then
running
out,
councilman
Lennox,
I,
appreciate
you
bringing
this
to
the
agenda
and
for
y'all's
leadership
on
this.
So
one
of
the
things
I
have
extensive
experience
in
this
across
the
state
and
in
other
areas.
You
really
want
to
look
at
areas
of
persistent
poverty
when
you're
looking
to
get
funding
for
this.
Those
are
not
competitive
areas,
and
that
is
something
that
the
funding
is
available
for.
We
have
two,
maybe
three
on
Hilton
Head
I,
think
that
there's
only
two
and
there's
only
nine
in
the
entire
County.
J
A
G
There
are
a
couple
of
points,
Mr
chairman,
what
Jeff
alluded
to
for
that
pump
station
over
at
Main
Street.
It
was
clogged
by
a
a
bed
liner
from
a
truck,
and
you
need
a
cow
catcher.
There
is
what
you
need
if
you
have
a
flat
surface,
anything's
going
to
go
up
against
it,
and
that
was
the
design
and
I
think
they
abandoned
that
design
because
it
deemed
to
be
too
expensive.
But
the
same
thing
can
happen
again
and
you
need
something
there.
That's
going
to
have
the
debris
slide
up
the
stormwater
management
system.
G
G
The
thing
that
Disturbed
me
is
that
when
the
FEMA
Maps
came
out
the
revised
FEMA
Maps
they
were,
they
were
based
on
pre-matthew
data
and
they
took
a
huge
number
of
homes
out
of
flood
zones,
and
mortgage
companies
notified
those
Property
Owners
says
we
are
no
longer
going
to
Escrow
your
flood
insurance
payments
because
you're
not
required
and
if
you're
not
required,
we're
not
going
to
Escrow
them.
So
if
you
want
to
buy
flood
insurance
and
you
want
to
fund
it,
you
have
to
do
it
yourself.
G
Too
many
people
dropped
their
flood
insurance
and
you
saw
what
happened
down
in
Florida,
where
many
people
didn't
have
flood
insurance.
Now
they
have
the
handout.
What
are
we
going
to
do?
I
mean
that
should
be
something
that
concerns
us.
There
should
not
be
anyone
on
this
island
who
doesn't
carry
flood
insurance
I,
don't
care
how
high
their
home
is,
and
the
other
thing
we
need
to
do
is
look
at
base
floor
elevation.
G
You
know
most
of
our
island
is
built
out,
but
when
they
rebuild
or
there's
a
new
development
looking
at
setting
it
higher
six
inches
would
have
made
a
difference
with
the
people
who
flooded
in
the
Headlands
because
of
that
bed
liner.
Once
that
water
gets
into
the
first
floor
and
starts
to
Wick
up,
that's
when
all
the
damage
occurs
and
you
get
that
order
that
goes
up,
you
get
mold,
you
get
mildew
and
you
get
all
those
other
nasty
things
going
on.
F
My
mind
started
flowing
based
on
some
of
the
comments
that
came
from
the
public
Mr
chair,
so
I
was
a
regain.
My
original
comment:
yeah
I'm
gonna
pick
up
on
something
that
Mr
Christian
just
said.
You
know,
as
we
start
to
look
at
new
development
and
changing
potential
Heights
yeah.
The
other
consideration
there
is
because
we
are
so
close
to
build
out
in
the
environment
that
has
been
built
at
the
lower
height
could
potentially
start
to
get
Negative
effects
from
the
higher
height.
F
F
A
H
E
You
Tom
I
just
said
one
thing,
I
think
there's
some
good
news
and
just
correct
me.
Peter's
points
are
well
taken,
but
it
wasn't
that
long
ago
that
when
we
were
looking
at
those
flood
maps
that
we
acknowledged-
and
we
maintained
our
LMO
in
fact,
changed
it
just
a
bit
to
ensure
that
everyone
across
the
island
Was
preparing
to
for
an
eventual
flood,
regardless
of
where
their
home
was
and
that
the
height
was
adjusted
accordingly,
so
that
we
did
not
lower
any
Heights.
Because
of
those
those
projections
that
people
were
taking
out.
E
Those
Club
plan
projections
that
were
people
were
taken
out
of
the
flood
plain.
We
maintained
that
height
level
across
the
board
and
made
no
changes
to
that.
So
there's
some
good
news
that
we
did
not
fall
in
line
with
those
changes
with
the
flood
map
that
instead
maintained
our
height
restrictions.
So
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
for
everyone.
A
B
H
H
B
I
H
There
you
go
yeah
same
same
type
of
deal.
There
is
a
purpose
statement
in
the
Strategic
action
plan
which,
basically,
you
know,
wants
us
to
do
a
better
job,
managing
Solid,
Waste
and
Recycling
work
with
the
county
get
a
better
handle
on
it.
What
is
our
future
going
forward
with
the
landfill
how
the
waste
and
recycling
is
collected
and
and
to
do
a
better
job,
get
our
numbers
up
this,
let
me
say
one
second:
okay,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
where
I
was
at
this
book.
H
H
We
definitely
you
could
do
a
better
job
in
that
regard
and
the
county
manages
they
have
a
solid
waste
department.
Division
I
know
they've
made
some
recent
hires
to
to
put
people
at
the
landfill
to
inspect,
what's
being
dumped
off
and
dropped
off.
There's
a
communication
I
think
a
public
information
person
that's
going
to
help
as
well
and
we
are
engaging
with
them.
H
They
just
approved
a
a
long-range
Solid,
Waste
and
Recycling
pan
here
last
summer,
and
so
that's
new
and
approved
by
County
Council
we're
going
to
look
at
it
and
work
within
it.
If
there's
any
changes,
we
want
on
Hilton
Head
again
we'll
make
recommendations
to
have
that
upgraded
as
they
go
creation
of
an
off
Island
materials
processing
center.
That
would
facilitate
a
better
recycling
rate
and
and
it
would
really
help
the
whole
program.
H
They
call
this
a
Murph
materials,
recovery
facility,
materials,
recycling
facility
materials,
Reclamation
facility,
but
it's
called
Murph
in
the
industry
and
and
what
I've
learned
talking
with
these
folks
is.
That
is
a
key
to
have
one
of
those
facilities
in
southern
Beaufort
County
and
have
it
up
and
running,
and
it
is
a
live
project.
We
got
Neil
Desai
over
here.
H
He
is
the
Beaufort
County
Public
Works
director
and
his
Solid
Waste
and
Recycling
division
has
a
project
where
they're
looking
over
at
simmonsville
road
to
acquire
more
land
and
expand
that
into
a
proper
our
facility
that
once
that's
up
and
running
I,
think
it'll
be
a
big
Boon
to
to
the
businesses
and
haulers
that
you
know
they
have
to
go
to
the
landfill
or
come
back
now.
I
think
for
everyone
to
have
a
place
closer
by
I,
think
we'll
get
greater
efficiencies
and
you
know
hopefully,
may
even
reduce
cost
Etc
give.
H
Yes,
that's
my
understanding,
so
it'll
be
able
to
do
recyclables
and
solid
ways
to
to
sort
and
Compact
and
process
and
then
move
them
on
either
through
other
outlets
where
they
sell.
You
know
recyclable
products
or
stuff
that
goes
in
the
landfill
will
then
be
transported
there,
but
for
the
trucks
to
have
to
make
a
round
trip
to
Hickory
Hill
and
back
Etc.
It's
just
going
to
help
make
things
more
efficient.
E
May
ask
a
question,
so
it
was
my
understanding
from
past
past
presentations
that
the
the
market
for
those
recyclables
really
wasn't
there,
and
so
the
cost
benefit
ratio
wasn't
high
enough
to
make
it
something
that
any
business
wanted
to
take
advantage
of
it.
Are
we
still
in
that
or
has
that
changed.
H
On
the
markets
today,
we've
got
a
fell
in
the
audience
that
I
hate
to
to
ask
him.
But
if
that's
okay,
Mike
Bennett
is,
is
the
Island's
representative
on
the
County,
Solid,
Waste
and
Recycling
board.
He
runs
a
recycling,
company
and
and
I
think
he
would
know
much
better
than
I
the
the
current
state
of
the
markets
and
what
opportunity?
Yes,
sir,
if
you
can,
is
that
okay,
yeah.
E
L
Do
it,
though,
is
you
function
off
of
service
fees
and
things
like
that
to
offer
that
Mark,
yeah
and
so
yeah?
You
definitely
have
to
plan.
Accordingly,
there
are
opportunities
in
in
the
recycle
markets.
We
just
came
off
a
high
swing.
Oh
sorry,
I
should
have
learned
that
I'm
a
bull
in
a
china
shop
when
it
comes
to
this
stuff.
So
the
like,
we
just
came
off
a
real
high
swing.
You
know
where
markets,
where
they're
absolute
highest,
that
we've
seen
in
about
15
years
and
now
we're
going
down
to
a
downswing.
L
So
you
can
look
at
it
any
any
string
of
time
and
being
three
five
years
and
it's
going
to
go
up
and
down
the
trick
is
to
buffer
that
or
make
the
business
resilient
enough
so
that
through
service
fees
and
timing
and
planning
that
that
you
can,
you
can
go
through
those
waves.
So
if
you
look
at
it
in
a
small
time
yeah,
sometimes
it
doesn't
make
sense
and
other
times
it
does
I
own
a
business
and
that's
that's
what
we
do
is
recycling.
L
So
you
know:
we've
learned
to
address
it
through
service
fees,
processing
fees,
things
like
that,
and
so
there
is
definitely
a
business
to
be
to
be
to
make
sense
of
it
right
now.
The
current
system
doesn't
work
at
all,
and
so
that's
it's
very
dysfunctional
just
through
contracts
and
the
way
that
Waste
Management
actually
moves
their
material
around.
So
the
recovery
facility
on
this
agenda
and
the
plan
moving
forward
with
the
county
is
a
very,
very
good
solution
to
make
it
viable
for
our
area
to
recycle
properly.
So.
J
H
You
know
the
comp
plan
and
the
environmental
section
said
we
ought
to
work
towards
a
zero
waste
model
and
zero,
but
he
said
you
know
it's
a
very,
very
lofty
goal.
You
know
the
way
you
get
there.
You
try
to
you,
you
have
to
have
consumers,
you
know,
don't
buy
as
much
don't
buy
things,
you
don't
need,
reuse,
things,
recycle,
compost,
Etc
and
so
I
think
so
much
of
this.
What
we
can
do
good
in
this
respect
is
a
lot
of
Education
to
teach
people
how
to
do
it
ways
to
do
it.
H
I'll
talk
about
some
things
later
in
the
presentation
that
we
will
be
doing
here
to
help
help
in
that
regard.
Go
ahead
and
the
the
partnering
mentioned
Neil
is
here.
We
have
been
meeting
monthly
with
the
greater
Island
committee,
Mike
Bennett
Peter
Christian,
Neil
Desai
and
Cindy
Carter,
who
is
the
County's
Public
Solid
Waste
director,
and
so
we
we've
been
talking
about
things
in
this
action
plan.
Talking
about
how
the
Murph
is
making
progress.
H
Talking
about
the
landfill
counties,
negotiating
a
contract
with
Hickory
Hill
Waste
Management
those
types
of
things,
so
we
meet
monthly.
It's
a
good
group
of
people
like
say
Mike
and
these
folks
very
smart
on
the
industry
and
and
know
what
we're
doing
so.
So
we've
been
doing
that
the
greater
Allen
Council
has
been
most
helpful.
We
have
a
resolution,
the
next
item
on
the
agenda.
After
this
they
have
a
sustainability
and
advisory
committee
which
Peter
chairs
and-
and
they
do
a
lot
of
good
work-
have
a
lot
of
smart
folks
involved.
There
we
go
next.
H
I
mentioned
the
solid
waste
management
plan
that
was
approved
this
past
summer
by
Beaufort
County,
it's
online.
It's
on
the
website.
You
can
look
at
it.
They
have
five
major
distinct
goals.
You
can
see
there
secure
disposal
capacity,
that's
the
the
landfill
there
I
understand.
Waste
Management
has
plans
to
to
expand.
H
They
can
build
more
cells
and
build
up
20
more
years
of
life,
but
but
we
want
to
be
in
a
position
where
we,
you
know,
have
opportunities
and
and
negotiate
from
a
strong
point
there
and
I
think
the
murf
over
here
will
help
with
that
divert
items
banned
from
the
landfill
transition
to
curbside
collection
for
residents.
You
know
on
Hilton
Head
right
now.
It
is
completely
a
private
Market.
We
tried
to
to
run
the
curbside.
You
know
solid
wastement,
so
I
can
pick
up
many
years
ago.
H
That's
when
our
town
code
was
last
updated
in
2014.
I'll.
Get
to
that.
We
need
to
update
our
town
code
to
be
more
current
and
would
like
it
to
be.
You
know
in
sync,
with
the
county
code
as
well,
but
going
forward.
You
know
that's
a
decision
to
make
about
trash
pickup
on
Hilton
Head
Island,
leave
it
to
the
private
Market
I
think
the
county
has
goals
of
wanting
to
manage
curbside
pickup
throughout
the
county.
So
that's
a
decision.
H
What
we
do
here
on
Hilton
Head,
going
forward,
consider
user
fees
for
funding
certain
activities,
okay
and
and
a
bit
about
Peter's
committee.
Again
there's
the
mission
statement.
You
know
those
folks
are
all
volunteers
and-
and
they
do
all
this
good
work
to
assist
the
town
and
the
county,
to
educate
the
residents
and
and
try
to
help
our
environment
said.
H
This
particular
committee
was
commit
created
in
2011
by
a
mayor's
task
force,
strategic
sustainability,
advisory
committee,
I
mean
they've,
been
working
with
the
county
in
a
town
we
meet
monthly
Peter
and
Mike
have
been
most
helpful.
Good
ideas
like
I,
say:
smart,
smart
people
with
with
eagerness
to
help
the
community.
H
I
just
mentioned
this,
but
our
town
code
is
outdated.
You
know
it
speaks
to
a
time
when
we
were
managing
the
solid
waste
curbside
pickup
here
on
on
Hilton,
Head,
Island
and
so
I
think
we
want
to
amend
that.
I
did
a
recent
inquiry
with
all
of
the
haulers.
You
know
there
are
six
licensed
haulers
on
Hilton
Head
Island
right
now.
Four
of
them
do
the
residential
Solid,
Waste
and
Recycling
column,
and
so
I
was
collecting
data.
H
H
They
have
to
supply
this
data,
but
part
of
the
inquiries
were
from
councilman
Ames
who
had
asked
about
I'm
hearing
constituents
who
say
I
wonder
if
the
recycling
is
being
done
properly
and
and
what
I
found
I
mean
a
lot
of
it
is
an
education
and
information
problem
and
I
talked
to
the
companies
that
run
these
businesses
and
they
will
tell
me
their
protocols
and
procedures
and
I
think
the
public
perception
may
be.
You
look
out
your
kitchen
window,
you
see
someone
putting
everything
in
one
bin
and
taking
it
to
the
truck.
H
Well,
what
what
the
business
owners
would
tell
me
is.
If,
if
someone
recycles
and
has
trash
pickup,
the
driver
may
go
out
back
and
he
has
a
singular
bin.
If
they
are
doing
things
properly,
they
put
their
loose
recyclables
in
a
bin
glass
plastic
paper,
aluminum
Etc.
He
would
dump
that
in
a
bin
and
then
bag
the
garbage
he
would
just
throw
on
top
of
it
go
back
to
the
truck.
They
may
have
a
split
truck.
You
put
the
trash
household
garbage
on
one
side.
H
You
go
put
the
recyclables
in
the
other
side,
but
for
the
person
looking
out
the
window,
it
says
the
driver
put
all
that
in
the
same
bin
or
he
went
out.
He
put
all
that
in
the
same
truck
so
I'm,
not
I,
don't
think
they're
doing
it
right,
I,
don't
think
they're
separating
it
right,
so
better
education.
They
need
to
put
the
haulers.
That
is
I,
think
put
the
information
on
their
website.
You
know
send
pamphlets
in
their
invoicing,
here's
what
we
do
and
here's
how
we
do
it
so
there's
no
confusion
or
false
perceptions.
H
One
problem,
though,
when
they
get
to
the
landfill
or
or
the
processing
center
to
take
the
materials,
the
county,
subsidizes,
The,
Tipping
fees.
So
when
they
dump
household
trash
they
get
reimbursed
in
the
county
for
dumping
that
trash
when
they're
dumping
the
recyclables
they
don't,
they
have
to
pay
a
fee,
so
you
say
well,
could
they?
H
You
know,
as
a
business
practice,
say
I'm
going
to
take
it
here
and
get
reimbursed
well
that
that
potentially
could
happen
right
part
of
it,
though,
the
the
Holland
companies
will
tell
me
contamination
of
the
recyclables
if
the
the
consumers,
if
the
customers
are
putting
stuff
in
there,
they
shouldn't
and
the
load
gets
contaminated
and
the
processing
center
won't
take
it.
It
has
to
go
to
the
landfill.
H
So
if
nine
people
on
the
road
do
it
properly
and
everything's
clean-
and
it
goes
in,
the
10th
person
has
a
full
ketchup
bottle
and
some
other
things
that
explode
and
they
get
to
the
site.
The
driver
will
either
have
discretion
to
say
this
is
contaminated
or
if
the
processing
center
won't
take
it,
it
goes
to
the
landfill,
so
there's
I
think
education.
As
long
as
folks
know
what
the
protocols
are.
If
we
could
have
some
oversight
and
regulation.
H
H
If
we
go
to
the
next
here's
the
SWAT
again,
you
know,
I
mentioned
the
good
work,
Peter
and
Mike,
and
the
folks
at
the
County
are
going
to
help
us
I.
Think
that's
a
strength
weaknesses.
You
know
ever
since
I've
started
working
on
this.
The
the
talk
of
the
Southern
County
murf
is
is
just
huge,
very,
very
critical
and
will
do
a
lot
of
good.
As
you
heard
Mike
say,
updating
our
ordinance
I
want
to
make
it
consistent
with
the
county
ordinances.
H
I
think
it
helps
the
haulers
and
the
businesses
right.
If
we
have
a
similar
ordinance
to
Bluffton
to
the
county,
if
they
have
to
do
different
things
for
different
people,
they're
going
to
adjust
their
prices
and
it
may
get
confusing
and
and
not
work
as
well,
along
the
way
when
a
long-term
agreement
with
the
county
to
run
the
convenience
center
at
Summit,
Drive
I
think
that's
important.
H
We
own
the
land
and-
and
we
lease
it
to
the
county,
to
operate
that
facility
there,
but
but
I
think
we
need
a
better
long-term
agreement
to
ensure
that
will
happen
for,
for
a
long
time
and
in
public
education.
We
have
a
good
Communications
Department
I
mentioned
earlier,
getting
the
word
out
on
what
to
do
and
how
to
do
it.
I
think
in
general,
the
nature
of
our
citizens
of
residents
are
why
they
want
to
do
the
right
thing.
H
H
The
Murph
Neil
is
here
he
can
give
an
update
if,
if
desired,
but
that
is
a
key
project
and
it
is
in
the
works.
They've
had
funding
they're
working
on
it.
So
great
news
for
us
I
think
we
can
do
better
commercial
recycling
is
an
issue,
the
the
short-term
rentals,
the
turnover
you
know,
folks,
from
out
of
town.
H
The
long-term
agreement
to
keep
the
convenience
center
in
operations
long
term
is
something
I'm
working
on
I'll
work
with
our
legal
department
on
that
and
we'll
get
that
ready
and
presented
the
county.
Updating
the
ordinances.
I've
got
some
ideas,
we've
looked
at
it
and
talking
with
the
county,
we'll
get
that
in
better
shape
and
get
those
to
match.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
a
greater
Allen
Council
resolution.
You
know
wanted
to
get
it
done
by
the
end
of
the
year
by
January.
H
That's
why
that
date
was
up
there
and
I'll
work
with
our
Communications
Department
to
get
a
full-fledged
campaign.
The
county
has
a
person
who
you
know.
That
is
her
job
as
well,
so
we'll
put
that
on
the
website
and
social
media
and
we'll
try
to
do
a
much
better
job
getting
the
word
out
for
what
people
should
do
in
that
regard
and
work
with
Beaufort
County
on
on
opportunities
for
improvement.
H
Again,
if
there's
something
we
would
like
them
when
they
update
or
amend
their
Solid
Waste
Management
plan
to
include
we
can
do
that
and
I
mentioned
something
on
the
end.
There
was
a
project
you
know
in
which
we
were
going
to
do
roadway,
modifications,
I,
don't
know
a
year
and
a
half
two
years
ago,
and
we
were
looking
at
putting
a
roundabout
out
there
at
Gateway
and
Summit
and
and
we
own
Summit
Drive,
and
we
own
the
property
there.
H
The
fear
was
that,
with
a
new
decal
system,
it
may
cause
traffic
backups
and-
and
you
know
it
has
not
transpired
to
be
as
bad
as
thought.
You
know
we
don't
see
people
out
to
Dillon
Road
and
so
maybe
on
a
busy
Saturday
morning,
but
for
the
most
part
the
county
has
made
do
with
the
existing
infrastructure
and
is
making
it
work.
I
think
we
could
do
better.
The
you
know,
there's
a
an
intersection
that
a
roundabout
would
be
made
better,
there's
developable
land
still
down
at
the
end.
H
You
have
Arbor
nature
thin
with
a
lot
of
big
trucks
coming
around
that
curve,
so
anyway,
I
think
that's
a
way
worthwhile
project
going
forward.
You
know
Mr
Brown
mentioned
before
about
the
ability
for
anyone
to
recycle,
not
just
decal
holders.
You
know
renters,
whoever,
if
you
wanted
to
go,
do
a
good
thing
and
help
the
environment
recycle
you
should
be
able
to,
and
so
the
county
has
stationed
their
scan
or
the
decal
scanner
employee
up
at
the
top
of
the
hill.
H
So
you
know
it's:
it's
a
workaround
I
think
reconfiguring
that
facility
and
doing
some
infrastructure
improvements
could
make
it
better.
There's
talk
about.
You
know
if
we
could
do
more
organic
Recycling
and
composting
in
an
area
so
in
a
future,
CIP
I
think
you
know,
there's
a
worthwhile
project
out
there
at
the
convenience
center
that
we
should
look
at
and
and
that's
what
I
have
questions
from
the
committee.
C
K
The
Murph
project
is
moving
forward,
there's
two
components
to
the
Murph
project:
one
is
the
site,
and
that's
right
now
at
the
I
would
say:
probably
behind
the
simmonsville
drop-off
center,
there's
a
property
that
we
would
be
acquiring
and
then
there's
a
County
property.
So
it
would
be
combining
those
two
to
make
that
facility
work,
and
so
the
site
is
being
worked
on.
We're
engaging
with
the
a
e
consultant
right
now
to
kind
of
do
a
site
plan,
a
conceptual
site
plan
and
we're
working
through
some
of
that.
K
The
other
component
is
the
actual
material
equipment
that
sorts
the
recyclable
goods
and
so
we're
working
with
a
vendor
right
now.
In
fact,
staff
is
because
of
my
attendance
here,
they're
working
with
us
that
the
equipment
provider
to
finalize
that
and
to
make
a
decision
on
on
the
equipment
as
well.
So
once
we
pick
the
equipment,
we'll
be
able
to
take
the
equipment
with
the
Sorting
lines
and
the
conveyor
belts
and
then
put
it
into
the
site
as
well.
So
it's
kind
of
everything's
happening
concurrently
and
it's
moving
forward
nicely.
K
E
G
Experience-
and
this
is
about
efficiency
and
providing
an
environmentally
sound
service
to
our
residents
and
right
now,
the
whole
process
is
controlled
by
the
Hickory
Hill
landfill
that
closes
on
two
o'clock
on
sun
on
Saturday
afternoon
and
part
of
the
problem.
Why
that
system
failed
is
because,
as
I
mentioned
before,
every
short-term
rental
gets
cleaned
between
10
o'clock
and
four
o'clock
in
the
afternoon
for
check-in.
Well,
where
do
you
think
all
the
trash
goes?
G
The
landfill
was
closed.
Ain't
no
place
to
put
the
trash,
you
can't
move
it
on
a
Saturday
out
even
out
of
the
convenience
center.
They
stop
and
in
fact
there
were
days
when
they
had
to
close
it
because
they
had
no
place
to
put
it.
They
ran
out
of
capacity
and
the
difference
between
the
Murph
and
the
convenience
center.
Is
they
reduce
it?
They
take
the
plastic
and
they
can
press
it
and
bail
it.
They
take
the
glass
and
they
crush
it,
and
they
make
it
much
more
convenient
to
transport.
G
G
G
This
murf
will
give
the
county
the
opportunity
to
Market
that
product
directly
without
having
the
county
process
it
and
having
to
pay
the
county
a
fee
to
do
it.
It
would
be
done
by
the
by
the
county.
It'll
also
reduce
the
turnaround
time
for
a
private
hauler
to
dump
their
trash.
It'll
also
mean
it'll,
be
open
on
Saturdays
and
Sundays,
because
it'll
be
under
the
auspices
of
the
county,
not
waste
management,
so
much
more
efficient
and
the
reason
why
that
failed
is
because
it
was
a
single
single
hauler.
The
expectations
were
set
way
too
high.
G
The
price
was
set,
unfortunately,
too
low.
It
was
a
great
idea,
but
the
ultimate
end
was
controlled
by
the
Hickory
Hill
landfill.
When
you
filled
up
a
truck-
and
it
was
two
o'clock
on
a
Saturday
afternoon-
you
stopped
you
couldn't
go
any
further
and
the
convenience
piece
of
it
I
have
at
least
six
trash
haulers
going
through
Hilton
Head
Plantation
on
a
weekly
basis
right.
G
We
aren't
here
on
the
roads,
hydraulic
oil
spills,
accountability,
just
efficiency
to
have
one
trash
hauler
go
through
and
do
it
all
and
have
that
accountability,
it's
just
much
more
efficient.
Now
this
would
be
done
under
the
county.
It
wouldn't
be
done
under
the
town,
but
we
need
the
county
to
partner
and
having
the
convenience
center
here
being
able
to
take
landscape
waste
and
reduce
it
on
site.
G
E
E
So
individually,
each
homeowner
can
make
that
choice,
at
least
with
our
company.
You
can
and
then,
but
it
does
concern
me
going
back
to
the
question
with
contamination
and
the
perception
maybe
or
the
reality
that
the
garbage
gets
picked
up
and
put
into
one
chuck
all
together
and
then
that
and
the
way
I
had
previously
understood
it.
That
contamination
literally
happens
with,
with
the
very
smallest
amount
of
crossover.
So
how?
How
does
that
piece
get
solved
and
prevented.
G
G
The
incentive
isn't
there
to
do
it,
so
it
needs
to
be
reversed.
You
need
to
have
a
tipping
fee
for
a
charge
for
the
trash
and
encourage
the
recycling
and
I
think
both
the
haulers
and
the
residents
will
be
much
more
conscientious
about
doing
it.
If
they
know
that
the
more
they
put
in
recycling
it's
going
to
be
a
lower
fee,
but
the
more
they
put
in
trash,
it's
going
to
be
a
higher
fee
and
it
needs
to
be
incentivized
that
way
and
I
think
you'll
see
a
big
turnaround.
E
Just
overall
from
if
you're
paying
your
monthly
trash
pickup
fee,
which
we've
only
gone
to
recently,
because
we
managed
to
do
our
Recycling
and
garbage
at
the
convenience
center,
but
but
most
people
who
pay
that
monthly
fee
for
their
garbage
collection
and
they're
recycling
that
additional
fee.
How
would
that
cost
compare
to
a
new
cost?
Under
this
County
plan?
The.
I
L
A
A
L
You
have
standards,
you
can
uphold
them
once
you
can
uphold
them
now
you
can
Implement,
then
your
collection
rates,
your
contamination
rates
and
things
like
that
and
that
now
you
have
a
way
of
making
sure
that
goes,
that
the
recyclings
are
as
clean
as
they
possibly
can
in
a
reporting
feature
right
now.
There's
no
standards,
you
know,
there's
no
there's
a
million
different
haulers
doing
a
million
different
things
nobody's
reporting.
It's
not
fair!
That
people
are
paying.
B
B
E
E
E
G
E
L
Because
you
started
the
conversation,
I
do
I,
do
want
to
kind
of
emphasize
I
think
you
know
when
we
talk
about
those
the
complexity
of
the
issues,
the
issues
actually
have
been
identified
and
these
resolutions
that
are
coming
forward
or
steps
in
them.
It
is
complex,
but
if
you'd
like
a
different
report
on
actually
that
literally
the
issues
that
come
down
the
line,
that
would
be
another
time
for
another
place,
but
they
have
been
identified.
L
We
actually
do
know
them,
and
this
resolution
is
about
to
come
forward
is
addressing
those
step
by
step
when
we
explain
I'll
step
back
up
when,
when
the
after
the
resolution's
been
you
know,
discussed
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more,
but
they
are
addressing
those
issues.
You
know
singularly
in
a
step-by-step
form.
Well,.
E
J
H
Yes,
sir
resolution
in
the
pocket,
don't
really
have
a
presentation
so
to
speak,
but
what
was
in
your
pocket
was
put
together
by
the
sustainability
advisory
committee
of
the
GIC.
A
resolution
came
forth
back
in
the
spring
that
was
approved
by
Town
Council
back
in
March.
How
is
this
one
different?
This
new
resolution
mainly
focuses
to
support
initiatives
on
the
south
of
the
broad
Murph
which
you've
been
hearing
about
capabilities
to
process
and
dispose
of
or
I
shouldn't
say,
dispose
right,
my
process
and
and
redistribute
of
recyclable
materials.
H
Organic
waste,
reducing
waste
deposited
in
the
Waste
Management's
landfill,
also
looking
at
initiatives
for
a
single
stream
Recycling
and
organic
waste,
haulers
for
single
single
family,
Residential
Properties
to
reduce
the
number
of
the
trucks
on
the
Hilton
Head.
You
know
Peter
mentioned
the
county
could
manage
that.
That's
to
be
determined.
H
The
town
could
manage
that
there's
different
ways
to
go,
but
they
have
a
division
Department
that
deals
with
solid
waste,
one
of
the
other
items
in
the
resolution
to
improve
and
expand
the
Hilton
Head
Island
Convenience
Center,
to
include
Recycling
and
composting
of
organic
materials.
That's
what
Peter
was
mentioning.
You
know
the
yard
waste
Etc
composting
can
be
a
messy
business,
I'm
sure
when
you
look
at
wildlife
and
how
to
protect
it
and
keep
things
neat
and
tidy
and
then
consider
expanding
the
Hilton
Head
Convenience
Center
into
a
solid
waste
and
recycling
transfer
station.
A
F
H
It
is
to
support
and
encourage
the
efforts
of
the
Town
and
County,
so
I
would
say,
guidance
and
support
and
encouragement
of
the
greater
Island
Council
for
Neil
and
us
and
County
Council
and
Town
Council
to
work
together
to
do
better
with
regards
to
Solid,
Waste
and
Recycling
management
within
the
area.
So.
H
G
Alex,
these
are
setting
up
the
tools
that
we're
going
to
need
to
ultimately
and
hopefully
set
up
a
residential
program.
That's
far
more
efficient
and
the
mayor,
probably
well
over
a
year
ago,
came
to
us
and
said:
look.
This
is
not
something
that
staff
or
the
council
can
do
alone.
We
really
like
you
guys
to
take
the
lead
on
this
and
bring
us
back.
You
know
in
information
and
and
and
work
that
we
can
adopt,
and
this
is
exactly
what
we're
doing.
G
G
Those
are
all
key
pieces
to
this,
so
that
eventually
we
will
get
to
a
much
more
efficient
system,
and
if
we
go
to
whether
it's
the
county
or
the
town
to
a
single
hauler
system
where
everybody
gets
gets
a
residential
service,
it
is
not
going
to
fail
because
the
right
tools
were
not
in
place.
This
puts
those
tools
in
place
and
makes
it
much
more
efficient.
F
E
I'm,
just
gonna
make
one
General
comment
as
because
I
keep
hearing
the
expansion
of
the
the
convenience
center
here
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
on
record
that
as
if
anything
were
to
expand
or
to
be
redeveloped
there,
that
the
town
will
remain
cognizant
of
the
resident's.
First
policy
that
convenience
center
is
around
neighborhoods
and
around
people's
lives,
and
so
that
first
and
then
we
accommodate
what
we
can
with
the
convenience
center,
but
always
keeping
in
mind
those
folks
who
are
residentially
positioned
around
the
convenience
center.
Well,.
G
And
there
is
enough
property
around
their
council
member
Becker
to
do
that
efficiently
and
there
were
originally
plans,
and
then
there
was
a
little
spat
between
the
county
as
you
you
know
about.
You
know
the
longevity
of
that
that
Center
and
I
think
something
like
this
type
of
expansion
would
ensure
the
longevity
of
that
that
particular
item
and
councilmember
brown.
G
You
brought
up
a
while
ago
about
Recycling
and
being
allowed
with
and
personally
I
use
it
and
I've
seen
exactly
what
Jeff
has
said
and
I
want
to
commend
Jeff
for
working
with
the
county
to
get
that
station
moved
up
in
front
of
where
the
trash
is
put
out
so
that
people
can
come
in
and
recycle
whether
they
have
the
decal
or
not.
That
has
happened.
F
G
And
right
now,
that's
just
common
sense
absolutely,
and
we
just
asked
you
to
support
this
resolution,
so
we
can
continue
to
work
with
the
county.
They
will
bring
the
same
resolution
to
the
County
Council
and
we
will
support
that
and
get
it
passed,
and
it's
just
working
together
to
get
these
these
tools
in
place.
So
we
can
provide
a
better
service
to
our
residents.
A
L
L
L
And
your
point
is
exactly
spot
on:
this:
isn't
a
resolution
of
firm
action,
it's
not
a
resolution
of
action,
it's
a
revolution
of
a
resolution
of
support
and
it's
really
the
town
stating
that
we're
going
to
take
a
leadership
role
in
the
county
and
work
in
conjunction
with
them
on
these
four
steps
that,
as
a
county
and
as
committees,
have
developed
to
work
through
the
issues
and
then
the
proper
steps
moving
forward.
I
think
it
is
a
a
great
signal.
L
I've
been
doing
this
for
a
long
time,
I've
been
on
the
island
for
a
while,
and
it's
a
great
signal.
It's
the
first
signal
that
I've
seen
that
the
town
is
really
moving
forward
in
really
trying
to
look
at
this
issue,
Solid,
Waste
and
Recycling,
and
throwing
actual
efforts
toward
you
know
putting
Jeff
on
This
and
things
things
of
that
nature,
where
they're
really
actually
showing
physical
support
toward
towards
it.
The
this
resolution
just
pushes
that
forward
and
says
you
know
what
we
are
going
to
take
a
leadership
stance.
L
You
know
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
move
forward.
Recycling
is
one
of
the
most
visible
things
we
can
do
as
a
as
a
town
as
a
community
as
a
county.
That's
that
if
we
can
perfect
it
and
get
it
right,
it's
very
marketable.
It's
the
right
thing
to
do,
I
mean
there's
numerous
benefits
to
it,
and
so
the
town
take
stepping
up
and
and
taking
that
position
I
feel
is
hugely
important.
You
know,
obviously
it's
Hilton
Head,
it's
you
know
in
Beaufort,
County
and
I.