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Town of Hilton Head Island, Town Council Workshop Meeting September 14, at 8 AM
Meeting Agenda available at https://www.hiltonheadislandsc.gov/towncouncil/agendas
B
A
A
We
have
several
items
on
today's
agenda
and
the
first
one
on
housing
will
be
us
talking
about
the
framework
for
housing.
It
will
be
limited
to
a
half
an
hour,
because
the
main
part
of
today's
meeting
has
started
to
be
and
will
end
up
being
about
the
park.
Now
david
looked
at
me
and
he
said
it's
not
going
to
be
half
hour,
maybe
a
little
more
than
a
half
an
hour.
A
D
A
About
how
the
town
manager
ought
to
be
building
a
framework
for
us,
so
we
could
talk
about
housing
and
implement
a
plan
and
have
a
plan
ready
for
november,
one
on
the
housing
part
of
it.
After
a
great
deal
talk
with
some
council
members
and
the
town
manager,
it's
not
the
town,
manager's
job
to
lay
this
plan
out,
it's
the
job
of
the
council
to
lay
out
a
framework
for
this
plan.
A
A
A
Two
is
the
structure
we
set
up
to
implement
the
housing,
whether
it
be
a
housing
authority
or
whatever,
and
the
third
is
the
the
financing
part
of
it.
We've
got
the
greatest
planned
in
the
world.
We
have
no
money,
we
have
no
means
of
getting
money,
nothing
is
ever
going
to
happen
and
the
fourth
and
probably
just
as
important
as
a
top
two
is
that
we
need
public
buy-in.
A
We
want
the
public
to
be
involved
in
this
decision,
not
a
handful
of
groups
like
we
did
before,
but
the
whole
island.
We
need
to
work
out
a
program
where
the
whole
island
is
touched
by
this
plan
of
moving
forward.
We
need
to
consider
having
a
referendum
as
part
of
the
financing,
so
the
island
can
vote.
So
the
residents
here
can
vote
it's
what
we
are
spending
their
money
if
almost
40
000
people
live
here,
should
vote
on
how
we're
going
to
spend
that
money.
So
it's
important,
we
decide
the
financing
of
it.
A
Now,
I'd
like
to
start
off
with
the
with
the
management
of
the
plan.
We've
got
the
greatest
plan
in
the
world,
but
we
need
someone
to
manage
it
and
there's
no
one
in
this
room.
That's
going
to
manage
the
plan.
We
are
not
looking
for
our
consultants
to
manage
a
plan,
we're
looking
for
their
advice
and
suggestions.
A
E
E
G
K
We
continue
it
because
this
this
housing
crisis
that
we're
in
is
not
going
to
go
away
within
a
year's
time
even
two
years
time.
It's
going
to
be
a
continuum
so
in
my
mind,
I
think
we
need
to
have
boots
on
the
ground
that
continue
to
manage
this
program
and
at
some
point
it
can
be
handed
off
to
housing,
authority
or
such.
H
H
H
H
I'd
like
to
see
more
opportunities
for
ownership
through
habitat
for
humanity?
They
manage
that
really
well,
short-term
rental.
You
mana,
you
mentioned
we're
in
the
midst
of
developing
ideas
and
concepts
for
where
we
go
with
short-term
rentals.
Next
I've
heard
a
number
of
different
ideas.
Some
of
them
are
worth
exploring.
They
may
have
impacts
in
terms
of
how
we're
looking
at
workforce
housing
there's
the
idea
that
we
have-
and
we
do
with
respect
to
those
who
are
on
our
island
through
the
sheriff's
department,
provide
a
stipend.
H
A
A
H
You
never
make
a
mistake
by
taking
a
longer
time
to
come
to
a
decision,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
every
time
you
don't
do
that
you
are
inherently
lining
yourself
off
up
for
consequence.
After
consequence
of
consequence
that
wasn't
contemplated,
wasn't
research
thought
through
and
then
decided
on
so
the
november
first
date
is
artificial
and
I
think
that
should
be
reconsidered.
A
H
We
haven't
talked
about
transportation
and,
while
we
may
have
a
small
group
here
that
appeals
to
a
certain
idea,
there's
a
larger,
almost
40
000
member
resident
base
in
hilton
head
and
we
have
yet
to
hear
from
them.
And
so,
with
regard
to
that,
I
think
that
your
idea
of
a
referendum
is
appropriate
and
necessary.
E
E
It
isn't
just
economic
development
that
we're
talking
about
it,
isn't
just
workforce
housing,
it's
creating
a
place
for
people
to
live
and
grow
within
the
community,
and
you
know
there
are
so
many
examples
of
community
leadership
today
who
came
up
through
workforce
housing
and
progressed
through
this
community
and
that's
the
kind
of
community
building
that
this
program
ought
to
have
as
a
basis.
It's
not
just
economic
development.
J
Clint
glenn,
I
will
react
to
the
comment
that
was
made
that
we
haven't
done
anything
in
four
years
about
four
years
ago
we
hired
a
housing
consultant
who
had
national
expertise
in
workforce
housing.
We
listened
to
that
consultant.
Certain
recommendations
were
made.
We
adopted
those
right,
those
recommendations
into
law
and
they
didn't
work.
So
we
have
been
working
hard
to
try
to
find
the
right
formula,
and
that
was
not
the
right
formula.
J
I
have
a,
I
see
negative
baggage
with
the
concept
of
a
housing
authority.
Housing
authority
tends
to
carry
with
it
the
concept
of
section
8,
housing
and
warehousing
people.
That's
not
what
we're
about
here,
and
so
I
hope
we
can
find
some
terminology
that
is
not
associated
with
housing
authorities.
So
I
look
forward
to
this.
J
A
J
At
one
point,
I
suggested
that
no
community
should
get
a
second
project
through
the
regional
trust
fund
until
all
communities
had
benefited
from
the
trust
fund,
and
that
was
rejected,
and
that
was
rejected
because
a
lot
of
those
other
communities
say
hilton
head
is
rich.
Let
them
take
care
of
themselves.
We
need
to
take
care
of
ourselves,
or
at
least
that's
my
perception
of
it
in
any
event.
So
I
think
that
we
need
we're
on
the
right
road
right
now
and
that
we
are
looking
at
consultants
to
help
us
with
the
public-private
partnership.
J
We
need
to
have
a
serious
debate
about
whether
we
want
to
have
a
referendum
or
not,
and
if
not,
how
we
we
would
secure
the
funding,
but
to
me,
starting
with
a
local
trust
fund,
which
could
be
funded
with
half
a
million
dollars
that
the
town
is
due
from
the
county
makes
sense
as
a
first
step.
Thank
you,
mr
brown.
K
I
I
want
to
react
to
the
discussion
that
we're
having
at
the
moment
and
start
with
with
your
comment,
mr
mayor,
as
to
what
we've
done
over
the
last
four
years,
councilman
stanford's
right.
We,
we
hired
an
expert
to
come
in
and
give
us
some
recommendations,
one
of
which
was
that
we
start
a
funding
source.
K
K
I
mean
the
certified
report
said
that
we
needed
2
000
units.
Well,
I
don't
know
what
the
going
rate
per
unit
is
today,
but
let's
put
that
in
the
framework,
how
many
acres
is
going
to
take
us
to
get
to
that
unit,
count
that
could
be
in
the
framework
some
ideas
as
to
how
much
it's
going
to
cost
us
to
have
a
housing
authority
on
the
side
could
be
in
the
framework,
but
give
us
some
numbers
to
react
to
versus
us
reacting
to
it
emotionally,
and
I
think
that's
where
we
are
at
the
moment.
E
E
H
H
H
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
another
comment
that
was
made.
25
may
not
seem
a
lot
to
those
folks
in
this
room,
but
25
on
everyone's
tax
bill.
Not
just
the
rich
and
famous
does
mean
something:
not
everybody
goes
to
starbucks
in
the
morning
and
drops
25
bucks
without
thinking
of
it,
every
dollar
that
every
person
has
is
important
to
them
and
that's
something
we
may
not
take
for
it
for
granted.
H
Those
who
have
listened
to
me
talk
about
this
before
and
just
last
week
at
the
strategic
plan
knows
one
of
my
biggest
issues
with
housing
as
we're
barreling
down
the
road
on.
Is
that
we're
not
planning
for
community
and
that
we're
not
taking
into
consideration
the
people
who-
and
I
thought
I
referenced
this
as
I
was
talking
about,
then-
what,
when
you've
gotten
to
a
place
where
those
affordable
homes
you've
exceeded
that
and
you've
grown
and
you've
built
a
depth
of
wealth?
H
H
What
would
I
suggest
that
we
do?
I
think
that
we
should
continue
down
the
road
that
we
have
find
different
ways
to
bring
in
additional
private
resources
to
build
and
to
provide
that
we
look
where
we
can
to
help
support
home
ownership
and
that
we
look
seriously
at
the
opportunities
for
transportation.
H
H
So
there
are
a
number
of
things
we're
not
going
to
solve
it
all
here
in
this
meeting,
but
every
time
throughout
the
years
of
my
working
with
all
everyone,
I've
asked
for
opportunities
like
this,
where
we
could
drop
ideas
in
the
center
of
the
table
and
brainstorm
and
then
sort
it
out
and
think
it
through
and
maybe
come
up
with
a
different
idea,
because
within
there
you're
going
to
find
a
good
answer.
I
don't
have
it
for
you
this
second,
but
I
have
lots
of
ideas.
F
Thomas
john,
I
think
I
think
the
way
david
described
the
development,
implementation
and
management
of
a
an
affordable
housing
program
last
week
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
I,
like
everything,
about
the
way
he's
described,
that
I
think
we
can
build
it
into
the
town
plan
and
find
an
effective
way
to
management
the
november
first
date,
however,
bothers
me
and
I'll.
F
F
I
I
I
I
Yes,
there
are
a
lot
of
people
that
are
supportive,
probably
a
lot
of
people
in
this
room
here
in
the
audience,
but
this
could
be
an
equal
number
of
people,
not
in
the
room
that
are
saying
not
in
my
backyard,
and
I
think
the
key
message
in
education
is
that,
yes,
there
is
a
economic
benefit
for
taking
action,
but
there's
also
an
economic
penalty
for
not
taking
action.
So.
I
Program,
I
I
think
I
said
earlier
work
for
the
public-private
model
and
bringing
people
with
experience
and
expertise.
I
still
stand
by
that.
That
said,
I
think
it's
important
to
have
some
books
on
the
ground
with
one
person
here
that
can
keep
managing.
So
I
think
tom
articulated
that
that
well,
I
think
we
should
now
with
lessons
learned,
we
should
be
able
to
glean.
I
think
the
salient
points
that
are
that
we're
learning
from
this
post
office
project.
I
I
I
So
we,
if
we
start
using
some
of
our
land
below
market
value,
it's
very
important
not
to
do
an
accounting
analysis.
It's
very
important
to
do
an
economic
analysis
and
that
economic
analysis
is
clear
that
workforce
housing
can
do
two
things.
It
can
help
people
maintain
their
job
and
it
also
may
create
an
opportunity
for
someone
that
doesn't
have
a
job
to
get
a
job
very
important.
I
F
I
I
I
Right,
you
can
do
that
again,
tangible
things
to
do
now
that
that's
that's
there,
then.
The
other
comment,
the
other
bucket,
would
be
a
of
sort
of
a
potpourri
public
foundations,
other
governmental
opportunities
and
in
the
last
in
the
biggest,
is
going
to
be
private
capital
and
private
capital.
Unless
we
have
a
circle
around
all
of
these
sources
of
funds,
then
private
capital
is
going
to
push
back
and
say
this
is
too
risky.
F
K
I
want
to
run
through
my
list
because
you
asked
the
questions
as
to
direction
okay,
but
before
I
do
so,
I'm
still
in
favor
of
the
first
of
november
deadline
simply
because
government
relations
is
right.
We
got
this
public
private
partnership
deal
on
the
table,
but
things
continue
to
happen.
I
mean
chimney.
K
Cove
was
the
reason
that
we're
here
today,
all
right
so
they're
going
to
be
other
opportunities
threats
within
our
realm
that
we're
not
prepared
for
at
the
moment
and
unless
we
put
some
stuff
in
our
toolbox,
we'll
be
caught
with
our
pants
down
again.
Okay,
so
I'm
in
favor
of
that
so
funding
the
whole
idea
of
management
versus
the
town
internally
and
outside
with
projects.
You
know
us
figuring
if
a
housing
authority
makes
sense.
K
I
agree
with
you,
mr
may,
as
far
as
the
communication
is
concerned,
and
again
not
just
emotional
communication
but
to
councilman
hawkins
point
metrics
that
we
can
get
our
arms
and
heads
wrapped
around
as
far
as
the
threat
through
our
community.
Our
level
of
service
here
on
hilton
head
affects
our
brand
and
it
starts
to
deteriorate
daily
because
of
our
lack
of
a
qualified
workforce
moving
forward
and
the
last
is,
you
know,
staff
capacity.
K
K
K
We
do
that,
is
we
put
a
stake
in
the
ground
and
say:
hey,
let's
put
a
framework
together,
so
we
can
move
forward
on
this
and
the
last
thing
I'll
say:
I'm
a
little
concerned
with
councilman
rebecca's
reference
to
building
community
through
housing,
because
the
the
one
developer
that
she
left
out
was
mr
bondwell,
that
got
a
proclamation
on
monday.
Also.
K
I
A
And
I
think
exactly
different
than
bill,
I
think
the
community
has
should
have
an
opportunity
to
vote
their
money.
They
should
have
an
opportunity
to
say
up
or
down
it
shouldn't
be
the
seven
people
at
this
table
and
some
influences
to
tell
them
what
to
do.
This
is
community
money.
This
is
a
big
number,
just
something
that
will
go
on
for
a
long
long
time.
A
E
It
may
be
necessary
to
have
both
we
don't
know
today,
but
I
will
say
from
my
own
personal
standpoint
that
housing
is
so
critical
to
this
island
that
the
seven
of
us
have
to
come
to
grips
with
how
we're
going
to
solve
that
problem.
And
if
that
says
that
we
need
one
mill
to
be
dedicated
to
housing,
then
I
think
we
take
that
step
and
lead.
H
Mayor
two
things
just
really
quickly
we're
well
over
30
minutes,
but
so
I'm
going
to
take
my
two
minutes.
First
of
all,
mr
barnwell,
my
deepest
apology,
yeah.
I
know
that
your
family
was
there
and
I
just
didn't.
Have
it
clear
on
my
notes?
There's
lots
of
things
I
just
scribbled
down
and
I
lost
track.
H
Mr
barnwell
is
also,
as
alex
mentioned,
been
in
the
housing
market,
doing
good
work
on
the
island
for
many
many
years.
So
I
wanted
to
appreciate
him
and
his
efforts,
but
in
terms
of
the
referendum,
non-referendum
john
you're
right,
everyone
on
this
island
should
have
a
voice,
and
if
we
have
a
table
of
singular
thought,
then
not
everyone
has
a
voice,
and
so
a
referendum
out
to
the
community
is
the
appropriate
way
to
get
there.
Thank
you.
M
Well,
I'm
taking
it
all
in
what
is
it
last
thursday,
today's
wednesday,
you
you
all
asked
at
the
strategic
plan
workshop
for
a
framework
and
since
then
I've
been
trying
to
wrap
my
head
around
it,
and
I
think
that
this
discussion
help
helps
a
lot
right.
So
how
do
I
take
all
of
this
information
and
bring
you
back
what
you're
asking
me
to
do
and
so
far
I
don't
want
to
put
words
in
any
anyone's.
M
M
But
if
you'd,
like
a
framework
by
november
1
clarity
when
I
leave
today
is
essential,
I
heard
a
word
and
I
think
that
that's
what's
missing,
yeah
the
strategic
plan
is
something
that's
important
to
us.
It
stops
everybody
wondering
what
business
we're
in
right.
I
always
say
if
you
want
to
be
in
the
business
get
in
the
business
you
want
to
be
in
housing,
hire
someone
that
knows
housing.
M
You
want
someone,
you
want
to
be
in
planning
engineering
capital
projects,
hire
someone
that
knows
what
they're
doing
and
that
when
I'm
back
at
my
desk
trying
to
do
my
best
to
be
a
town
manager
that
works
being
done,
and
so
I
think,
that's
important,
but
what
what
might
be
missing
is
getting
organized
right.
I
think
that
we're
doing
one
thing
in
the
north
point
housing
partnership
and
I
believe,
we're
doing
it
well.
Is
it
fast
enough?
Never
because
I
I
know
this,
and
I
think
we
can
all
agree.
M
M
M
Knowing
that
we
need
to
pick
sooner
than
later,
some
of
those
early
priorities,
and
that's
that's
your
will
right.
I
I
want
to
ask
more
questions
than
have
solutions,
but
I
know
that
a
framework
would
provide
incentives
right.
What
are
they?
Are
they
buy
downs?
Are
they
land
banks?
Are
they
zoning
density?
I
said
density
bonuses,
don't
work
the
way
our
density
bonus
is
it's.
It's
limited.
M
M
M
What's
our
role
is
the
bigger
question
here?
What's
our
role
in
the
displacement
strategy,
is
it
pastor
june
and
nonprofits,
or
is
it
our
involvement
and
are
we
leading
or
are
we
assisting
because
at
some
point
I
think
housing
gets
solved
with
our
involvement,
whether
we're
collaborating
on
a
great
new
subdivision
that
we
want
some
of
it
to
be
below
market
rate
below
120
ami?
So
are
we
facilitating
and
collaborating
on
that
and
how
do
we
do
that
through
incentives,
maybe
contribution
of
land.
M
Then
I
think
sometimes,
like
north
point,
we're
point
on
the
development
on
the
p3.
We
are
in
charge
of
that.
That
is
our
project.
We
didn't
concede
by
just
putting
some
dollars
or
policy
or
land
forward.
So
it's
a
matter
of
will
I've
seen
housing
authorities
work
well
and
we've
seen
housing
authorities
not
work.
Well,
I
think
a
lot
of
it
is
about
the
structure
of
it,
the
bylaws
of
it
and
the
expectations
out
of
the
gate.
M
You
know,
I
encourage
you
to
just
google
some
resort
great
communities
in
our
country,
breckenridge
as
an
example
martha's
vineyard.
As
an
example,
I
think
that
you'll
find
that
the
local
municipality
doesn't
solve
it
by
themselves.
The
county
is
very
involved,
housing
authorities
are
involved,
regional
solutions
are
involved,
and
I
I
kind
of
think
that
if
I
bring
a
form
framework
forward
it
it
needs
to
be
all
encompassing
and,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
get
us
organized
right.
M
E
Tom
referenced
something
I
said
last
week,
and
there
are
four
parts
to
this
that
I
see
in
and
a
framework
is
high
level,
but
it
identifies
the
the
key
ingredients
of
an
implementable,
a
program
and-
and
the
four
elements
in
my
mind,
are
the
the
public
understanding
of
what's
at
risk
and
the
public
support
moving
forward
in
the
program.
So
it's
it's
the
public.
E
E
The
third
is
the
management-
and
here
I'm
talking
about
the
long-term
commitment,
the
sustainability
of
the
organization
and
the
fourth
is
planning.
How
does
how
does
a
community
put
land
in
a
position
or
existing
buildings
in
a
position
to
be
able
to
be
utilized
by
the
private
sector
investment?
And
so
it's
a
planning,
slash
lmo
component.
I
think
those
four
elements
of
the
framework
have
to
be
dealt
with.
F
See
what
mark
comes
up
with
by
november
first,
given
those
four
elements
and
keeping
it
at
a
very
high
level
such
that
the
town
has
some
latitude
in
which
way
we
go
given
the
circumstances
not
the
least
of
which
and
most
urgent
is
north
point
and
recognizing
that
we're
going
to
learn
some
things
from
the
responses
we
get
to
the
rfps
and
then
build
the
strategies
and
tactics
behind
the
four
goals
that
david
mentioned.
Get
me
next
steps.
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
J
M
J
M
J
News
to
me,
because
those
proposals
are
going
to
teach
us
a
lot,
because
the
people,
the
firms
that
we
have
reached
out
to
have
experience
and
expertise
in
doing
exactly
this
and
that's
where
we're
going
to
learn
a
great
deal.
And
so
I
look
forward
to
those
proposals
to
some,
hopefully
creative
ideas
that
haven't
really
occurred
to
us
yet
and
if
we're
going
to
have
those
by
early
october,
that
will
give
us
an
opportunity
to
study
those
after
we
receive
them
and
to
come
forward
and
respond
to
the
challenge
you
put
before
us,
john.
K
C
K
I
second
councilman
ames
informal
motion
of
the
four
points
that
he
made:
funding,
management,
communications
and
the
the
whole
planning
idea,
and
the
only
thing
that
I'd
add
is,
as
we
move
towards
this
november,
one
date
and
I'm
still
absolutely
in
favor.
That
is.
Is
it
we
just
support,
mr
orlando?
If
he
comes
back
to
us
and
says
hey
my
staff
capacity
is
not
there.
K
A
Okay,
before
I
get
a
few
public
comment
here,
my
idea
and
we'll
do
this.
For
the
time
being,
I
would
like
tom
and
david
to
work
with
mark
to
put
draft
of
the
first
framework,
I'd
like
to
draft
to
come
out
of
the
council,
rather
than
that
of
the
town
manager's
office.
Mark
will
assist
you
too.
In
writing.
The
first
framework.
A
G
In
the
room,
there's
a
lot
of
intent
and
that's
really
appreciated.
I
think
everybody
here
sees
that
and
feels
that
there's
still
an
elephant
in
the
room
and
it's
called
gentrification
and
it's
going
at
warp
speed,
and
this
is
not
the
thorough
wrench
and
everything
you
just
said,
but
it
is
a
horrible,
very
real
thing.
G
O
O
M
There's
not
something
that
we
can
do
via
an
ordinance,
it's
what
I
mentioned
to
and
alluded
to
that
there
be
a
displacement
strategy
in
place,
one.
I
think
that
you
know,
if
nothing
else.
I
think
that
it
was
heard
that
we
expect
more
than
a
30-day
notice
as
a
community.
I
think
that
first
and
foremost
is
stronger
than
any
ordinance
that
we're
turning
to
on
page
902
there.
There
is
not
a
legal
way
to
mandate
length
of
time.
That's
through
the
courts.
That's
through
you
know,
contracts,
it's
through
leases
and
things
like
that.
M
But
there
are
displacement
strategies
that
we
can
put
in
place
that
help
us
mobilize
a
lot
faster,
and
I
I
refer
to
it.
Well,
I
won't
say
that
word
but,
let's
just
say
an
emergency
management
situation
right.
We
know
what
season
we're
in.
I
don't
say
that
word
out
loud
unless
I
have
to
but
we're
an
emergency
season.
A
A
L
D
P
A
grief
counselor
for
children,
especially
with
children,
and
I
would
like
us
to
really
focus
on
that
30-day
eviction
voice,
because
there
is
no
way
that
we
won't
create
trauma
for
those
children
who
are
displaced
in
30
days,
their
schooling,
they're
friends,
everything's
disruptive.
The
way
that
families
are
organized
will
be
totally
disruptive
so
for
the
purpose
of
protecting
our
children.
I
would
suggest
you
really
push
in
those
courts
that
we
are
the
voice
for
those
children.
We
have
will
be
traumatized
by
this.
C
C
C
Communities
and
black
and
brown
people
are
having
a
very
hard
time
living
here,
we're
not
trying
to
create
communities
that
discount
people
because
of
their
income.
As
mentioned
before
in
your
discussion,
I
want
everybody
to
participate
equally
and
to
have
an
opportunity
to
live
like
everybody
else
lives
on
the
island.
C
This
becomes
a
problem
because
we
have
failed
and
asked
to
do
a
great
master
plan.
So
here
we
are,
we
don't
have
diversity
in
our
properties.
We
don't
have
diversity
in
our
living,
we'll
have
diversity,
we
have
a
huge
gap
in
the
haves
and
the
have-nots.
In
my
opinion,
that's
just
my
opinion.
So
there.
Q
Q
This
is
the
first
district
that
we're
assessing
from
a
redevelopment
standpoint,
it's
focused
around
the
mid
island
tract,
which
was
the
former
port
royal
golf
course,
property
and
they're
going
to
present
today
additional
findings
and
then
recommendations
related
to
the
district
center,
the
historic
neighborhoods
and
then
district-wide
recommendations
that
provide
us
a
framework
that
we
will
use
to
develop
a
plan
and
bring
back
for
november
1st,
I
believe
for
council.
So
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
at
this
point
to
brian
and
andrew,
and
they
can
begin
working
through
the
presentation.
R
Thank
you
sean
mr
mayor
council
members.
Thanks
for
having
us
once
again,
I'm
going
to
turn
this
directly
over
to
andrew
overback,
my
able
colleague
we're
going
to
speak
first
to
the
district
planning
and
then
to
the
to
the
mid-island
tract.
Also,
I
want
to
acknowledge
tony
rel,
one
of
our
able
colleagues
as
well.
N
Andrew
thanks
brian
good,
to
see
you
all
this
morning,
I'm
really
happy
to
be
with
you
and
and
talk
through
both
the
district
and
the
park.
I'll
start
by
talking
with
you
all
about
where
we
are
with
the
district
focusing
in
on
a
future
land
use
map
and
then
really
providing
a
little
more
information
on
on
the
sort
of
district
center,
the
heart
of
mid
island
and
then
also
talking
a
little
bit
about
the
historic
neighborhoods.
I
think,
as
you
all
are
talking
about
housing,
there's
some
elements
here.
N
I
think
it
could
be
impactful
there
and
certainly
it's
something.
That's
on
our
minds
as
well,
then
brian
I'll
talk
through
the
park,
elements,
phasing
and
costs
and
we'll
talk
together
about
next
steps
and
again
aiming
toward
november
1st
there
as
well
a
number
of
things
that
we've
sort
of
gone
back
and
looked
at
sort
of
time
and
time
again,
as
we've
had
these
conversations
with
you
all
and
with
the
community.
N
You
know
looking
back
to
you
know
charles
frazier's,
seven
basic
principles,
for
you
know
for
the
island
and
thinking
through
island
character
and
what
you
know.
What
does
this
place
mean
and
how
is
it
special
and
different
from
anywhere
else?
Also
looking
at
the
the
planning
work
that
you
all
have
done,
you
know
with
with
our
plan
again
gave
us
some.
N
Some
some
guide
posts
to
to
amat
certainly
provides
a
framework
for
the
work
that
you
all
are
all
doing
right
now
on
a
number
of
different
topics
and
then
also
looked
at
the
gulagichi
culture
preservation
project
report.
We'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that,
as
we
start
to
think
through
the
historic
neighborhood
part
of
of
the
district,
but
again
really
good
recommendations.
There.
A
lot
of
things
you
all
been
working
to
implement
a
couple
of
other
things
left
to
be
done
there
that
we
wanted
to
talk
with
you
all
about
today.
N
N
You
know,
folks
that
are
interested
in
in
the
park
and
other
users
user
groups
there
as
well
and
while
that's
impossible
to
read
a
pretty
huge
list
of
stakeholders
that
were
outreach
too,
a
number
of
which
we
were
able
to
to
talk
with,
but
it
really
boils
down
to
a
few
results
that
wanted
to
just
remind
you
of.
I
know.
N
We've
talked
about
this
before
because
of
the
fact
that
there's
a
golf
course
in
the
middle
of
a
disused
golf
course
in
the
middle
of
the
district
park
was
sort
of
top
of
people's
minds
when
it
came
to
improvements
and
things
that
they
saw
that
needed
to
happen
in
the
district.
But
I
think
the
other
categories
of
responses.
We
got
walkability
things
to
do
from
dining
events,
shopping
work
for
workforce
housing
is
pretty
high
on
that
list.
N
You
know,
I
think
it
shows
that
you
all
have
done
a
good
job
of
you
know
recognizing
this
a
community
need
because
we
keep
hearing
it
so
again,
you
know
how
do
we
sort
of
look
at
all
of
these
needs
and
desires
and
and
sort
of
boil
that
down
into
something
that
we
can?
You
know,
make
an
actionable
plan.
Out
of
so
we
had
a
lot
of
questions
that
sort
of
got
back
to
our
answers
that
got
back
to
the
park.
N
You
know
because
people
seem
to
really
want
to
see
that
happen
and
also
to
the
district,
so
from
a
park
perspective,
a
recognition
that
maybe
you
know
wanted
to
be
a
little
more
natural
a
chance
to
really.
You
know,
return
that
natural
character
to
this
space,
addressing
environmental
concerns
throughout
throughout
the
district
and
having
a
couple
active
components
to
it.
So
brian
will
talk
a
little
more
about
that.
We
got
good
direction
from
the
community.
N
N
It
really
boil
down
to
these
three
major
points.
We
need
to
protect
and
enhance
our
people,
the
neighborhoods,
the
culture
and
history,
the
natural
environment,
the
preserves
and
parks
and
the
parkway
character.
We
want
to
connect
people
open
spaces,
neighborhoods
community
hubs
of
activity
together,
those
are
things
we
need
to
work
on,
and
then
we
recognize
there
needs
to
be
an
evolution
and
we
need
to
look
at.
Where
are
we
in
terms
of
land
use
today?
What
do
we
need
to
change
that
to
in
order
to
facilitate
the
types
of
development?
N
The
needs
that
we
have
on
the
island
in
this
district?
So
that
is
everything
from
talking
about
mixed
use:
development
to
the
potential
for
infill,
on
some
of
our
residential
zone,
pieces
of
ground
people's
property,
and
then
what
are
those
standards?
How
do
we
do
it?
So
those
are
the
things
that
we're
sort
of
working
toward
in
this
work
in
the
strategic
direction.
N
Then,
as
we
start
to
think
about
this
holistically
as
an
entire
district
with
a
park
at
the
center,
how
do
we
preserve
and
protect
that
park
and
that
natural
environment,
the
historic
and
cultural
assets
that
are
here?
How
do
we
connect
existing
neighborhoods,
open
spaces,
community
destinations
together
safely?
N
So
that's
where
we're
headed
with
this
work
and
wanted
to
start
really
by
looking
at
the
district
as
a
whole
and
then
we're
gonna
drill
down
into
the
center
a
little
bit
here
to
start.
But
it's
a
big.
It's
a
big
area
right,
there's
some
areas
of
change
and
those
are
the
items
outlined
here
or
the
sort
of
places
outlined
in
in
the
the
black
outline.
N
N
You
know
we
were
fully
recognized
that
there's
a
lot
of
history
and
culture
in
the
mid
island
district-
that's
shaped
by
those
neighborhoods
historic
neighborhoods
and
historic
churches
that
are
in
the
mid
island
district,
and
we
have
you
know
we
took
a
look
at
the
existing
zoning
to
see
where
we've
we've
got
some
things.
We
might
want
to
reconsider
or
think
about.
There's
a
lot
of
items
in
the
galagic
heritage
report
that
that
point
toward
maybe
some
some
thoughts
and
changes
there.
N
We
looked
at
the
existing
land
use.
You
can
see
a
lot
of
different
colors
on
the
map
here,
probably
hard
to
distinguish
from
this
distance,
even
the
different
different
colors.
We
want
to
think
about
how
do
we
simplify
that
tell
a
simpler
story
about
the
district,
especially
as
we're
starting
to
focus
in
on
certain
spaces
and
maybe
clean
some
of
that
up
a
little
bit?
N
So
that's
how
we've
moved
toward
a
potential
future
land
use
map
that
does
consolidate
and
collapse
a
few
categories
but
starts
to
help
us
think
about
some
of
these
areas
of
change
in
a
little
bit
more
of
a
focused
matter
and
bring
some
clarity
to
that.
So
you
can
see
the
purple
color
as
we
think
about
the
sort
of
heart
of
of
the
mid
island
district,
where
we
think
mixed
use,
development
that
supports
a
lot
of
the
community
concerns
could
occur.
N
We
look
at
the
area
around
the
airport
as
having
commercial
services
that
need
to
service
the
airport
as
as
it
and
the
sort
of
light
industrial
warehouse
uses
their
there
they're
needed
on
the
island.
It's
it's
a
good
place
for
them
and
then
looking
at
the
residential
areas,
and
could
we
start
to
see
you
know
some
neighborhood
commercial
and
some
other
types
of
residential
infilling
and
where
we
have
a
maybe
an
opportunity
to
have
some
partnerships
and
give
people
economic
opportunity
to
develop
some
of
their
property.
N
So
we
look
at
the
area
around
the
airport
as
being
that
commercial
service
area
and
again
supporting
you,
know
the
growth
of
the
airport,
but
also
the
fact
that
that
there's
some
existing
light
industrial
spaces
there
that
are
important.
There
are
a
sort
of
couple
corridors
along
dillon
and
matthews
that
provide
retail
service
lodging.
N
So
those
are
important
uses
in
the
district
and
provide
neighborhood
scale
commercial
space.
So
those
are
along
a
couple
corridors
but
then
focusing
in
primarily
on
this
mixed-use
core
and
then
opportunities
in
other
residential
areas
throughout
the
district.
So
those
are
places
we
want
to
focus
in
on.
N
In
today's
conversation,
as
we
start
to
put
this
plan
together
to
to
bring
to
you
all
here
by
november
1st,
so
starting
with
the
district
center,
you
know,
I
think,
as
we
go
back
to
this
again,
we're
always
returning
to
what
the
natural
features
are
and
and
and
what
are
the
the
the
historical
pieces
we
need
to
to
think
about.
We
want
to
create
an
integrated,
interconnected,
green
district.
We
have
a
lot
of
parks
and
preserves
we'll
talk
about
that
here.
N
In
a
moment,
we
have
history
and
culture
that
we
need
to
integrate
and
expand
economic
opportunity.
We've
talked
a
lot
about
creating
a
walkable
district.
What
does
that
mean?
How
do
we
connect
safely
across
the
parkway?
How
do
we
make
it
so
that
it's
easy
easy
to
get
around
and
make
that
choice
to
get
out
of
an
automobile?
N
We
want
to
talk
about
mix
abuses
and
repositioning
some
of
our
commercial
ground
in
the
district,
creating
an
identity
and
ensuring
that
it
fits
the
character
of
the
island.
Another
really
important
point
and
then
finally
making
sure
that
this
district
center
as
you're
investing
in
public
space
as
you're
investing
in
infrastructure
along
the
parkway.
N
So
we
want
to
make
sure
we
harness
that
and
also
direct
it.
So
that's
really
the
key
here,
as
we've
been
talking
about
this
together
over
the
last
several
months
since
may.
How
do
we
direct
it,
and
so
what
are
some
components?
What
are
the
things
we
sort
of
put
out
on
the
table
who
say
if
anything
comes
forward,
it
needs
to
meet
these
needs
to
meet
these
standards.
He
needs
to
have
these
features
so
we're
talking
about
compact,
walkable
neighborhoods,
we're
talking
about
a
public
space
that
anchors
a
district.
N
Active
first
floor
is
in
a
vertical
mix
of
uses,
so
again
we're
talking
about
lower
scale
buildings
here,
but
it's
important.
We
think
about
that
vertical
mix
of
uses.
We
might
have
a
storefront
on
the
ground
floor
in
an
office
or
a
town
home
above
those
sorts
of
things.
We
need
to
start
to
think
about
and
then,
as
we
also
look
at
the
character
of
the
space
that
we
have
today,
a
lot
of
it
is
dominated
by
surface
parking.
We've
got
to
find
a
way
to
treat
parking
differently.
N
If
we
want
walkability,
we
can't
be
walking
past
acres
and
acres
and
acres
of
surface
parking,
so
integrating
that
parking
having
on-street
parking
but
also
behind
buildings
is
incredibly
important.
So,
as
we
think
about
these,
this
is
how
they
all
sort
of
start
to
fit
together
and
then
thinking
about
that
mix
of
uses
that
we
would
want
to
see
together
again
not
just
responding
to
what
the
community
said,
but
what
the
market's
already
doing.
N
I
think,
as
you
recall
from
our
earlier
conversations,
this
spring,
there's
obviously
airport
considerations
there
as
well,
but
also
it
you
know
it's
the
island
character
that
we're
concerned
about
too
so
again.
Two
three
stories:
we
want
to
provide
structured
parking,
some
other
projects
you
all
have
done
recently
on
the
island,
certainly
placing
surface
lots
behind
buildings
and
then
that
landscape
green
edge
along
the
parkway.
That's
your
character,
and
we
have
that
green
natural
buffer
along
the
parkway
that
should
still
exist
and
give
shape
to
redevelopment
in
these
areas.
N
So
as
we
look
toward
recommendations,
obviously
we
have
a
future
land
use
map
that
we've
talked
about.
Then
it
comes
to
what's
the
framework.
How
do
you
guide
that
redevelopment
to
create
that
compact
walkable
district?
We
want
it
to
be
mixed
use
and
to
do
that,
we
need
to
take
a
look
at
the
zoning
code
and
create
standards
to
get
us
there.
We
need
to
look
at
organizational
financial
tools
as
you've
all
started
to
talk
about
housing.
You
know
what
are
some
of
those
incentives
or
financial
tools.
N
You
could
use
from
a
tif
district
to
investments.
You
all
are
thinking
about
to
considering
a
community
development
corporation,
potentially
a
lot
of
different
choices
there,
but
at
the
core
of
it
we
want
to
leverage
the
investment
that's
happening
in
public
space
in
in
public
infrastructure.
You
know
for
maximum
community
benefit.
N
I
want
to
think
through
again.
How
do
all
these
pieces
fit
together?
So
we're
sort
of
zoomed
into
the
center
here
at
port
royal
sea
turtle
northridge
in
the
mid
island
track
and
we're
thinking
through.
You
know
how
these
green
protected
areas
fit
together.
So
again,
it's
providing
that
structure
to
this
work
and
we're
looking
primarily
here
at
this
mixed
use
center
and
then
how
do
those
all
connect
to
each
other?
So
where
might
we
need
to
make
intersection
improvements?
N
Help
people
get
across
the
parkway,
the
character
of
those
streets
as
we
go
into
these
commercial
districts
again,
I
think
we're
going
to
start
to
think
about
those
in
the
future,
less
as
driveways
and
drive
isles
and
more
as
public
streets
and
and
how
do
we?
How
do
we
start
to
have
a
character?
That's
a
little
more
fitting
with
the
island.
Are
there
opportunities
along
the
parkway
to
treat
it
a
little
bit
differently,
create
gateways
enhanced
intersections
again
to
help
people
traverse
the
corridor
connecting
to
other
surrounding
development
community
assets
such
as
the
library?
N
What
are
the
trail
and
other
improvements
we
need
to
make
both
inside
of
some
of
these
green
open
spaces
park
spaces,
but
also
at
the
edges.
So,
as
we
look
at
the
corridor
work
together,
we're
talking
about
multi-use
paths,
shared
use
paths
on
both
sides
of
the
parkway.
We
think
it
should
be
on
both
sides
of
matthews.
We
want
to.
N
You
know,
connect
into
the
neighborhoods
that
surround
these
centers
of
activity
in
the
district
and
again
this
goes
off
the
map
and
gets
to
the
north
as
well
here,
not
just
here
in
the
district
and
then
how
does
all
of
that
fit
together
so
again
that
holistic
strategy
to
change
the
way
we're
thinking
about
the
heart
of
the
of
of
the
district.
So
we
started
to
think
through
and
again
you
all
asked
at
our
may
workshop
that
we
look
at
economic
feasibility.
N
So
not
just
what
the
what
the
market
study,
I
would
sort
of
say,
is
possible
here.
How
do
we
get
there?
What
are
some
of
the
strategies?
So
in
order
to
do
that,
I
think
we've
talked
about
this.
There's
probably
10
15
ways
you
could
you
could
start
to
look
at
these
parcels
and
how
they
may
change
in
character.
We
wanted
to
look.
You
know,
sort
of
test,
this
form
of
character
we've
talked
about.
N
We
also
wanted
to
put
some
things
down
on
paper
so
that
our
economic
consultant
at
kimberly
horn
could
do
their
market
feasibility
work,
which
they're
you
know
actively
working
on
right
now.
So
there's
a
bit
of
a
program
and
and
sort
of
capacity
analysis
that
we
that
we've
done
so
what
you'll
see
in
the
next
drawing
really
is
a
way
to
start
to
think
about.
How
might
you
add
housing?
N
How
do
we
start
to
change
the
character
of
these
streets
so
that
we're
talking
about
internal
walkable
roadways,
if
you
think
about
what
happened
to
shelter
cove
when
they
redeveloped
that
they
created?
Maybe
you
know
half
a
walkable
street
right
a
couple
you
know,
storefronts
that
you
know
are
walkable
we're
now
talking
about
doing
that.
As
you
turn
into
these
shopping
areas,
creating
you
know
creating
that
character.
That
really
makes
it
a
walkable
place
and
encouraging
is
sort
of
get
out
of
your
car
and
walk
around
and
maybe
do
a
couple
things.
N
Instead
of
just
one
thing
there
so
again
testing
out
the
capacity
trying
to
understand
what
that
form
that
we've
all
talked
about.
That
character
looks
like
on
the
ground
and
then
how
does
that
fit
together
with
all
the
other
neighborhoods,
all
the
other
uses
the
potential
of
a
park
across
the
street.
N
N
That
is
truly,
you
know
a
gathering
place
and
I
think
when
we
work
with
our
friends
with
victor
dover,
you
know
what
is
that
island
character?
You
know
what
does
that
look
like
on
the
ground?
So
if
you
can
imagine
sort
of
standing
in
one
of
these
black
circles
here,
sort
of
the
where
you
might
have
four
buildings
coming
together?
N
Really?
What
does
that
look
like
if
you're
on
the
ground?
What
is
that
character
again?
We'll
have
to
define
that
together
as
we
go
forward
into
into
developing
standards
as
a
next
step?
But
again
it's
vertical
mix
of
uses
active
first
floors,
places
of
community
comes
together.
It's
walkable
we've
got
on-street
parking,
we
have
street
trees.
N
We've
got
some
businesses
as
well,
as
maybe
you
know,
residential
or
office.
Above
those
and
then
you
know,
different
kind
of
you
know,
injecting
a
character
in
the
streets
that
has
street
trees,
maybe
on
street
parking,
maybe
a
median.
But
again
these
are
green
streets.
They're
walkable,
you
have,
you
know,
restaurants,
that
might
spill
out
onto
the
street.
You
have
storefronts
that
are
active.
N
So
we've
done
a
lot
of
work
over
the
last
couple
months
to
think
that,
through
as
well
and
again,
looking
very
strongly
back
at
the
the
golagic
preservation
report
and
what
some
of
those
recommendations
were,
what
progress
you
all
have
made
in
implementing
some
of
those
and
where
we've
maybe
had
some
things
overcome
still
so
I
wanted
to.
I
wanted
to
go
through
that
so
again,
we'll
be
focusing
in
here
on
the
yellow
areas
throughout
the
district.
N
Again,
you
know
the
the
report
really,
I
think,
did
a
good
job
of
of
pointing
out
where,
where
the
issues
were
and
what
some
of
the
potential
solutions
are,
and
that's
some
of
the
things
we
want
to
talk
about
today,
so
they
recognized
and
we'll
go
through
this
with
a
map
here
in
a
moment
that
some
of
the
areas
that
are
zoned
rm4
today,
really
don't
let
people
maximize
the
development
potential
of
their
their
property
right.
There's
some
density
concerns
there
and
there's
a
different
way
of
looking
at
it.
N
Depending
on
what
size
your
parcel
is:
there's,
maybe
a
fair
degree
of
confusion
around
that
recognition
that
setbacks
and
buffering
requirements
also
need
to
be
relaxed
in
order
to
allow
people
maximum
benefit
of
their
property,
as
well
as
open
space
requirements.
So
there
was
a
proposal
in
that
report
for
an
overlay
we
really
started
to
look
at
it
is.
Is
there
a
base,
zoning
that
we
could
establish?
You
know
as
a
starting
point
to
really
clarify
position
there,
and
so
that's
something
that
we
wanted
to
sort
of
test
out.
N
N
So
you
can
see
almost
every
one
of
these
historic
neighborhoods
has
a
portion
of
that
light,
green,
which
is
that
rm4
low
to
moderate
density,
zoning
and
again
we're
talking
about
land
use,
but
we're
getting
into
a
little
bit
of
zoning
conversation
around
what
what
we
might
allow
inside
that
land
use.
So
this
is
where
we're
really
focusing
in
in
the
conversation
today.
N
These
areas
that
are
are
green
again
a
little
hard
to
see
in
the
screen
a
little
washed
out,
but
it's
essentially
that
these
areas
of
green
inside
each
of
those
historic
neighborhoods
now
those
are
today
have
inside
rm4.
Depending
on
the
size
of
your
your
parcel,
your
lot,
you
could
build
up
to
eight
twelve
units,
an
acre
depending
how
big
so
five
acres.
Well,
you
can
go
to
eight
so
again
inside
arm
four
you're
already
allowing
a
range
of
densities.
N
So
I
won't
go
through
this.
I'm
going
to
click
through
these
pretty
quickly
here,
because
we
did
look
at
every
single
neighborhood
again.
What
the
existing
land
use
is.
What
the
zoning
is.
Some
places
have
both
rm4
and
rm12.
Again,
where
there's
already
something
that's
rm12
or
something
that's
different
than
rm4
we're.
Not
we
don't
we
don't
we're
staying
agnostic
too,
we're
really
focusing
in
on
the
rm4
only
in
this
case,
and
so
you
can
see
each
one
of
these
then
has
a
recommendation
from
the
gichi
culture
heritage
preservation
report.
N
Again
they
were
still
sort
of
trying
to
fit
in
the
existing
zoning
code.
And
what
do
we
allow
for
three
acres?
Five
acres,
one
acre
we're
really
suggesting
we
just
simplify
that
and
say
look
there's
a
base.
Zoning
base
density,
that's
allowed!
So
again
we
did
that
for
every
single
one
of
these
and
I
think
it
informed
our
conversations
and
our
recommendation
here.
N
So
we
looked
at
big
hill,
we
looked
at
mitchellville
same
thing,
a
little
bit
more
of
a
mix
of
different
zoning
categories
in
mitchellville,
but
again
just
focusing
in
on
the
rm4
did
the
same
up
in
big
all
and
marshland,
and
we
can
go
back
to
any
of
these
at
any
point
if
you
want
to
today,
but
I
wanted
to
sort
of
get
to
the
the
recommendations
here.
You
know,
first
and
foremost,
we
want
to
advance
and
celebrate
the
history
and
culture
of
the
native
islanders,
there's
opportunity
here,
for
that.
N
I
want
to
make
sure
these
neighborhoods
are
economically
sustainable
and
that's
going
to
mean
that
we're
allowing
for
you
know,
infill
residential
development,
but
also
some
commercial
and
home
business
opportunities.
So
where
are
there
opportunities
for
people
to
have
a
a
small
business,
a
farm
market,
a
restaurant?
You
know
things
are
neighborhood
in
scale
but
allow
people
to
you
know,
do
business
on
their
property
and
that's
something
we
wanted
to
talk
about.
N
So
it's
as
same
as
to
the
district.
What
are
the
rules
of
the
road?
What
are
some
components
we
we
we
need
to
have
in
in
in
these
areas
again
we're
talking
about
you
know,
compact
walkable
form
we're
talking
about
prioritizing
streets
and
sidewalks
pedestrian
and
bike
connections
again
people-focused.
N
So
that's
essentially
what
we
think
should
happen
that
consistent
uniform
density,
standard
and
development
pattern
allowing
for
six
dwelling
units
an
acre
need
to
calibrate
again.
This
is
going
to
take
additional
effort,
calibrate
the
setback
and
buffering
this
internal
requirements
and
open
space
requirements
to
allow
for
infill
development,
recognizing
that
that
these
are
smaller
parcels.
So
some
of
those
standards
will
need
to
be
adjusted
will
allow
for
those
home-based
businesses,
those
neighborhood
commercial
uses,
but
also
thinking
through
that
we
want
to
make
sure,
there's
still
a
predominance
of
residential
on
a
site.
N
So,
as
we
think
through
that,
looking
at
75,
residential
and
up
to
25
percent
neighborhood
commercial,
so
again
that
yeast
mix
is,
is
pretty
critical
there
too.
To
maintain
that
neighborhood
feel.
So
how
did
we
get
to
six?
We
went
around
and
looked
at
what's
being
built,
not
only
what
you
allow,
but
what's
being
built
so
you'll
see
in
some
of
these
cases
we
looked
at
the
the
the
residential
zoning
would
have
allowed
for
more,
but
the
market
built
around
six.
So
that's
sort
of
what
we
found.
N
We
looked
at
the
infill
development
that
happened
already
in
grassland.
You've
got
a
three
acre
parcel
wound
up,
building
18
units
and
it's
around
six,
almost
six
twelve
units,
an
acre
so
5.7.
So
again,
that's
something
that's
been
built
and
it's
on
the
ground
today
in
mitchellville.
Similarly,
you
have
this
development.
N
N
So
again,
this
is
a
product
that
is
on
the
market
and
seems
to
seems
to
be
working
so
again,
it's
within
that
range
of
density
in
mitchellville
and
other
development.
This
is
just
about
6
28,
an
acre
as
well.
It
was
in
the
rm12
category,
so
you
can
see
even
in
that
rm12
they
built
they
built
something
that
was
closer
to
six
as
well
from
a
market
perspective.
N
So
you
know
another
another
sort
of
reason
why
we
sort
of
went
down
to
that
to
that
level
and
looked
at
you
know,
six
being
kind
of
a
good
middle
ground
and
allow
for
some
consistency.
This
is
down
off
marshall
in
recent
development.
Again,
a
little
more
than
five
doing.
It's
an
acre
a
bit
of
a
different
style
of
development
than
what
we've
seen
in
some
of
these
other
parts
of
the
district.
But
again
I
think
you
know
looking
at
you
know
development
across
the
district
across
the
island.
N
How
does
that
fit
into
a
very
compact,
walkable
residential
scale
throughout
throughout
the
district
and
throughout
some
of
these
neighborhoods
and
again
thinking
through
these
streets
again,
their
neighborhood
scale
that
could
have
on
street
parking?
They
might
not
have
off-street
on
street
parking.
N
You
know
narrow,
walkable
walkable
streets
within
the
district
and
again
making
sure
that
they
are
amenitized
with
street
trees
and
and
other
things
that
make
them
comfortable
places,
as
we
think
through
recommendations,
then
across
the
district,
wanted
to
give
you
a
sense
of
of
where
we're
landing
on
that
or
again
after
today,
we're
we're
going
to
do
more,
do
more
work,
put
our
our
collective
brains
together
and
continue
to
to
get
you
a
summary
document
that
really
sets
the
roadmap
for
how
do
we?
How
do
we
get
there
for
this?
N
N
You
know
they're
going
to
need
help
to
figure
out
if
they
want
to
develop
some
things,
they
need
some
help
to
get
there
as
well.
The
you
know
commercial
property
owners
that
are
at
the
heart
of
the
district,
so
we
need
to
talk
about
standards
and
support
that
we
can
give
those
folks
what
are
the
economic
development
strategies
that
we
need
to
think
about
what
are
the
other
public
investments
and
infrastructure
that
need
to
take
place
to
support
that?
So
that's
thinking
through
stormwater
and
resiliency.
N
Investments
in
transit
mobility-
and
you
know
developing
you-
know
a
parking
strategy,
because
if
we're
going
to
get
we're
going
to
convert
acres
of
surface
parking
to
a
walkable
environment,
there's
going
to
be
investment
in
in
that
infrastructure
as
well.
So
please
know
we're
thinking
through
that
policy
framework,
the
implications
and
what's
necessary
in
each
of
that,
and
then
we
get
into
the
the
you
know:
rules
of
roads
established.
How
do
we?
How
do
we
actually
do
it
together?
N
Looking
through
those
organizational
financial
tools
to
guide
implementation-
and
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
have
worked
in
the
past
and
other
things
we
can
continue
to
look
at
and
then
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
leveraging
those
public
investments
in
in
the
creation
of
private
development
that
supports
the
vision
that
the
community
has
for
this
part
of
the
island.
So
those
are
all
pieces
that
we
are.
N
N
If
I
put
all
the
slides
in
here
that
we
had
reviewed
over
the
last
year,
we
we'd
probably
be
at
like
300,
so
please
know
that
we've,
I
think
we've
talked
about
each
of
these
things
as
of
today,
so
we'll
you
know,
introduce
this
process
and
overview.
What
have
we
done?
What
plans
have
we
looked
at?
How
does
it
align?
How
does
this
vision
align
with
those
recommendations?
N
How
does
it
square
with
the
community
engagement
that
we
that
we
did
then
the
next
section
is
about
the
planning
context?
What
analysis
did
we
do?
We
have
a
lot
of
work
that
we've
done
prior
to
this
point
on
land
use
and
zoning
market
analysis,
mobility,
environmental
systems,
open
spaces,
the
airport
considerations
we
talked
about,
then.
N
How
did
that
lead
us
to
that
strategic,
strategic
direction
we
reviewed
today
and
and
those
improvements
that
we
see
need
to
be
made
and
those
those
very
focused
recommendations
and
then
we'll
focus
in
on
implementation
and
the
roadmap
to
get
there.
So
those
are
the
sort
of
major
chapter
headings
that
that
we're
starting
to
fill
sort
of
block
that
out
and
start
to
fill
in
that
content
to
share
with
you
all
before
the
next
time,
we're
together
in
november,
so
we'll
be
doing
a
couple
other
things
in
the
meantime.
N
After
today,
there's
some
additional
community
meetings
that
sean
and
his
team
are
going
to
schedule
with
historic,
neighborhoods
and
other
stakeholders.
Do
those
in
october,
there'll
be
a
planning
commission
briefing
in
october
as
well,
and
we'll
bring
this
back
to
you
for
consideration
of
adoption
by
resolution
on
the
first
of
november.
N
So
we've
got
a
lot
of
work
to
do
in
the
next
six
weeks,
but
we
wanted
to
share
with
you
sort
of
where
we
are
in
the
process
and
the
direction
we're
heading
in
and
make
sure
we're
on
the
right
path
before
we
put
pen
to
paper,
which
is
our
very
next
step,
we'll
put
pen
to
paper
in
five
minutes.
If
you
want
us
to
but
open
it
up
to
conversation.
A
K
Not
a
question
absolutely
thank
you.
I
thank
andrew
and
and
and
brian
for
really
following
the
the
comprehensive
plan.
Okay,
we
started
there
right
and
I
think
when
we
first
started
that
journey,
we
understood
that
we
were
going
to
get
to
a
point
of
future
land
use
opportunities
or
changing,
and
we
we've
also
noticed
that
in
a
lot
of
ways
of
trying
to
accomplish
the
goals
in
that
comprehensive
plan,
our
land
management
ordinance
is
conflicting
right.
So
I
really
appreciate
the
direction
that
you
you've
gone.
K
The
the
one
item
that
is
in
the
small
print,
maybe
smaller
than
I'd
like
it
to
be,
as
the
comp
plan,
also
speaks
to
connectivity,
okay
in
this
island
being
one
that
is
such
and
we're
talking
about
walkable
bikeable
streets
and
that
sort
of
thing,
but
the
whole
transportation
piece,
I
think,
should
be
called
out
more.
It's
especially
if
we're
talking
about
a
potential
tif
district
here,
where
we're
going
to
be
raising
money
and
we're
having
conversations
around.
How
do
we
expand
our
transportation
healed
hilton
head?
K
I
can
see
this
mid-island
area
being
one
of
interest
even
for
residents,
saying
sea,
pines
and,
of
course,
you're
not
going
to
walk
there
from
sea
pines
and
we're
trying
to
encourage
folks
not
to
get
in
their
car
to
come.
You
know
what
does
that
look
like
over
the
next
10
15
years.
We
know
that
we're
going
to
need
a
funding
mechanism
to
make
it
happen,
so
I
just
think
that
that
piece
should
be
called
out
just
a
bit
more
in
the
small
print.
J
J
Then
the
other
land
use
tool
that
I
think
I've
heard
here
today
is
that
in
the
historic
neighborhoods
you
see
limitations
in
rm4,
even
though
we
know
that
rm4
doesn't
mean
four
units
to
the
anchor
it
can
be.
It
can
be
more
and
so
you're
recommending
a
simplification
of
that,
so
that
the
number
that's
assigned
is
the
number
that
would
be
the
maximum
permitted
use,
and
in
that
case
you
are
recommending
rm6
for
the
for
these
neighborhoods.
J
I
have
mentioned
before
that
I'd
like
to
see
on
the
ground
here,
our
m4
versus
rm-6
and
how
it
actually
how
it
works
on
the
island
as
we
are
setting
this
up,
and
I
know
that's
going
to
happen.
So
what
I'm
saying
is
I'm
looking
for
the
tools-
and
I
know
you're,
building
the
tools
for
us
and
I
appreciate
it
and
thank
you
for
your
expertise,
david.
Yes,.
E
I
do
have
some
comments.
I
I
think
the
vision
is
good.
I
think
the
goal
statements
are
in
aligned
with
island
values.
So
I'm
appreciative
of
that.
I
have
a
question
first
I'll
make
a
comment.
I
think
that
we
have
a
number
of
different
districts
on
the
island
and
I
think
it
would
benefit
the
community.
E
As
a
place
to
live,
and
also
from
a
branding
standpoint,
if
those
different
districts
are
allowed
to
develop
their
own
special
character,
and
so
when
I'm
looking
at
your
boundary
map
here,
I'm
wondering
is
that
one
district
or
is
that
two
districts,
or
if
it's
one,
what's
the
character?
And
so
I
I
don't
need
an
answer
today,
but
it
I'm
looking
for
the
personality
of
what
you're
proposing.
E
It's
been
very
difficult
for
those
people
to
those
people
to
want
to
redevelop,
and
so
my
question
in
the
commercial
area,
the
mixed
use
area
that
you
are
citing
do
we
have
any
idea
of
what
the
cash
flow
circumstances
are
in
those
commercial
properties?
Are
they
likely
to
be
amenable
to
your
proposals?.
R
Let
may
answer
that
and
we'll
help
you
first
the
last,
and
that
is
this
mixed
use
district
as
you've
heard
from
my
lips
before,
as
as
we
observe
those
three
areas,
their
1960s
70s,
80s,
models
of
of
strip,
commercial
development
and
in
the
past
I
suspect
they.
I
know
that
I've
spent
a
fair
amount
of
money
in
those
districts.
R
R
R
R
From
my
standpoint,
one
of
the
three
legs
of
the
stool
of
sustainability-
one
is
financial
stability
to
his
social
stability
and
and
three
is
environmental.
So
stay
tuned.
We're
testing
that
to
see
exactly
if
this
mix
of
uses
is
financially
stable.
I
think
it
is.
Our
experience
has
been
elsewhere
in
redevelopments
of
of
such
that
it
is.
Is
it
difficult
work?
Is
it
a
heavy
lift?
R
What
causes
a
property
owner
who's
servicing
leases
now
to
move
off
the
dime
into
something
that
she
or
he
may
not
be
comfortable
with
they've,
not
done
for
the
last
30
years.
That's
all
a
heavy
lift.
This
is
messy
business,
I'll,
be
the
first
one
to
admit
it.
But
it's
what
the
community
has
told
us.
We
need.
We
fully
agree
with
it.
We
need
neighborhood
oriented
commercial.
R
R
David,
you
know
as
as
well
as
councilman
ames.
You
know
as
well
as
anybody
that
the
first
step
in
land
development
is
control
and
ownership.
Now,
if
we
don't
control
and
own
that,
might
somebody
in
partnership
with
those
folks
take
an
ownership
position?
Might
we
incent
that
somehow
or
there's
tif
districts,
there's
tax
issues
that
we
can
put
in
place?
R
E
E
E
R
Yeah
through
the
entitlement
or
the
lmo
revisions
that
will
spin
out
of
this,
that
mixed
use
development
will
have
its
own
criteria.
We
may
very
well,
we,
the
town,
may
very
well
put
forth
restrictions
requirements
for
that
affordable
component,
as
as
a
basis
of
that
zoning
that
may
be
enticed
with
other
financial
tools.
The
town
can
put
in
place
to
encourage
and
even
increase
that
affordable
component.
R
That's
worked
elsewhere
in
the
in
the
past
and
is
presently
as
I've
said
before,
we're
not
the
lone
rangers
in
this
town,
with
with
struggling
with
the
affordable
and
attainable
housing
problem.
It
is
everywhere
it
is
everywhere.
It's
it's
certainly
in
at
a
critical
place
on
in
the
in
the
town,
so
long
answered
a
short
question,
but
yeah
we'll
put
forth
some
of
those
recommendations
as
to
what
the
town
can
do
through
the
entitlement
process
to
encourage
them.
Thank.
E
R
No,
that
that's
right,
that's
right,
and
let
me
let
me
hit
that
one
head
on
there's
there's
the
antithesis
of
a
walkable
community.
Mixed-Use
development
is
large
surface
parking,
lot
fields
yeah
again,
that
was
the
model
of
the
60s
70s
and
80s
big
boxes
with
big
parking
fields
out
front.
You
drive
up,
you
walk
in
you,
go
back
out,
you're
off,
that's
not
what
this
district,
this
mixed
use
district
is
all
about.
That's
not
what
the
community
said
they
want.
We
want
walkable.
R
R
R
Where
is
the
ground
to
do
that?
Well,
right
now,
it's
under
all
the
asphalt.
What
do
you
do
with
the
asphalt?
Because
automobiles
are
not
going
away
and
certainly
in
my
lifetime,
so
you've
got
to
take
that
asphalt
plate
and
you
got
to
stack
them
and
where
do
you
stack
those
someplace
where
it's
convenient,
but
it's
not
the
center
of
attention
in
that
mixed-use
development
is
to
the
periphery.
R
It's
encased.
If
you
will,
with
other
usable
architecture
and
we've
strategically
placed
those
parking
structures,
they
may
be
a
single
deck,
they
may
be
multiple
decks,
that's
going
to
be
a
product
of
what
those
tenants
are
and
what
the
automobile
needs
are
and
what
our
transit
system
is
all
about.
On
the
island,
yeah.
E
E
R
We
we
picked,
we
picked
the
most
complex,
dare
I
say,
difficult
district,
because
all
of
the
disparate
parts
that
this
district
represents.
But
I
think
you're,
absolutely
right.
Lessons
learned
here-
and
this
has
been
a
lot
of
hard
work
on
the
part
of
the
town
and
and
our
constituency,
but
that
can
be
applied
elsewhere.
But
I'm
amazed
at
how
good
of
a
transit
system
we
have
now
with
such
modest
resources
and
organization
to
it.
They've
done
a
fantastic
job,
but
that's
just
a
literally
a
drop
in
the
bucket
without.
I
So
I'm
enthused
about
what
we
see,
but
this
economic
model
is
going
to
be
very
important
and
I
think
it's
going
to
be
an
iterative
process
because
we'll
come
up
with
the
model
and
it
may
not
be
running
at
this
rate
of
speed
we
want.
So
we
may
pluck
something
here.
We
may
put
something
else
here
and
then
see
how
it
fits.
I
H
H
I'm
also
cautious-
and
I
know
we'll
get
here
because
we're
doing
better,
I'm
cautious
about
development
like
this
taking
place
near
and
around
residential
neighborhoods,
where
people
have
bought
land
built,
their
lives,
had
expectations
and
then
something
pops
up
next
to
them.
We
know
in
the
past
there's
been
failures
with
that,
but
we've
gotten
better
we'll
continue
to
get
better,
I'm
sure
so
that
concerns
me
concerns
me
on
some
of
this
with
regard
to
what
type
of
businesses
go
where
and
whether
or
not
they're
appropriate
within
neighborhoods
or
near
neighborhoods.
H
H
H
H
I
voted
no
by
the
request
of
the
owners
of
the
property
to
increase
the
density
there
with
promise
that
they
were
going
to
re,
renew
and
increase
the
workforce
housing.
That
was
that
is
there
and
more.
That
would
be
there.
Nothing
has
happened
with
that
property
since
then.
So
what
I
was
fearful
of
then
and
remain
so,
is
that
we
all
did
was
provide
increased
profitability
to
that
owner
when
he
resells
it
to
someone
else,
and
he
never
follows
through
with
the
project.
H
H
So
that's
you
know
we're
never
going
to.
As
I've
heard
someone
say
in
the
past
force
people
to
use
public
transportation
on
the
island,
that
doesn't
mean
it
shouldn't
be
available
and
have
the
opportunity
to
get
around
the
island.
That
way,
just
to
note
on
that,
from
my
perspective,
so
there's
a
number
of
little
things
that
need
to
touch
on
there's
a
big
picture
that
needs
to
be
really
really
focused
in
on.
As
we
begin
these
types
of
projects,
it's
good
for
the
community,
it's
good
for
economics.
H
H
We
have
to
be
ever
cognizant
of
the
fact
that
what
brings
people
onto
this
island
is
that
we
are
not
myrtle
beach.
When
they
drive
onto
the
island,
they
see
trees,
they
see
our
beautiful
wildlife
and
that
is
got
to
be.
It
must
be
always
a
priority
above
everything
else,
it's
good
for
us
as
humans,
and
it's
good
for
hilton,
head
and
I'll
leave
it
all
at
that.
S
I'll
be
happy
to
talk.
Thank
you
about
this
exciting
project.
We
were
together
last
time
in
may
and
brian
and
andrew
and
tony
shared
with
you
exciting
plans
for
our
100
acres
there
in
the
middle
of
the
district
today
they're
back
to
share
with
you
the
cost
estimate
and
some
potential
phasing.
So
we
can
decide
how
we
might
want
to
move
forward
with
developing
this
probably
over
time
and
also
just
like
the
district
move
forward
with
bringing
it
to
you
in
november
for
approval.
R
Thank
you,
jennifer,
as,
as
suggested
we've
been
through
hundreds
of
slides
to
do
this
design
process
and
we're
not
going
to
reiterate
all
of
those.
But
I
do
want
to
touch
upon
some
of
the
refresher
points
and
that
are
the
the
goals
of
the
tract,
and
that
is
to
connect
it
with
all
the
other
marvelous
green
spaces.
R
We
have
in
the
district
to
start
with
the
natural
features
of
this
tract
and
the
opportunity
for
the
observation
of
nature
to
embrace
understand
showcase,
enhance
the
gullah
history
and
culture
of
this
place,
maybe
like
no
other
area
on
the
island.
The
mid-island
is
is
is
rich
in
that
history
and
culture,
and
I
think
that
adds
to
the
strength
and
vitality
of
the
brand
of
hilton
head
as
a
whole.
R
It
is
a
place
for
the
entire
community
residents
and
visitors,
but,
dare
I
say
that
is
in
the
proper
order.
It's
with
the
residents
in
mind
the
community
in
mind,
and
that
will
be
taken
advantage
of
by
our
visitors
as
well,
and
then
consider
how
we
phase
this
implementation
into
place.
Starting
with
what
is
now
a
golf
course
that
wasn't
a
golf
course
70
years
ago,
cultivated
land
and
turn
it
into
central
civic
space
and
how
we
maintain
it
and
operate
it.
That
is,
has
got
a
capital
cost
to
it.
R
R
All
of
that
taken
as
a
whole
is
what
we're
calling
the
program
of
uses.
We
have
broken
down
this
concept
plan
into
these
five
areas
for
sake
of
of
ease
of
understanding,
starting
at
the
left.
This
active
play
area
is
open
field
for
pickup
activities
and
sports
not
league
play
per
se.
It's
a
long,
dillon
road.
The
heart
of
the
track
is
what
we're
calling
the
center
of
the
park
or
the
facility.
R
R
R
R
It
was
a
golf
course,
the
pond
system
there
is
not
the
strongest
of
environments,
we're
suggesting
that
we
help
that
water
quality
for
a
number
of
reasons,
not
the
least
of
which
is
the
management
of
storm
water,
the
resiliency
for
storm
surge,
the
need
to
recognize
that
we've
got
to
recharge
the
aquifer,
move,
storm
water
to
and
through
the
park.
So
this
is.
This
project
starts
with
restoration
before
we
even
think
about
public
spaces.
R
To
that
point,
the
first
phase
we're
really
calling
the
park
framework.
How
do
we
move
dirt?
One
time?
How
do
we
interconnect
the
ponds?
So
we
get
healthy
water
bodies,
the
natural
flushing
and
flow
through
of
storm
water,
how
we
accommodate
the
watersheds
and
the
water?
That's
passing
through
the
site.
Much
of
those
stream
beds
have
been
put
into
culverts
and
for
sake
of
the
gulf
play
over
the
years.
R
So
the
natural
environment
has
isn't
is
in
need
of
some
restoration
for
sure.
From
a
earthwork
phase,
one
says
we're
going
to
dig
those
lagoons
as
interconnected
creeks
we're
going
to
restore
the
stream
we're
going
to
move
the
earth
one
time
and,
as
they
say,
bake
the
cake
before
we
put
icing
on
it.
So
we're
going
to
do
that
once
and
and
we're
done
with
that,
no
pun
intended
the
dirty
work.
R
R
But
I
think,
even
in
its
current
condition
is,
is
a
pretty
beautiful
place.
We
can
still
do
that.
We'll
still
have
the
use
of
the
un
undeveloped
underdeveloped
land,
while
we're
into
the
phasing
of
the
park,
st
james
baptist
church,
as
we
know,
is,
is
proposed
to
move
to
that
southeast
corner.
Next
to
the
cemetery.
R
We
are
suggesting
that
the
island
heritage
section
of
the
park
be
developed
in
concert
with
that,
so
that
construction
activity
can
be
concentrated
in
that
corner
at
one
time
and
we're
disrupting
that
part
of
the
world.
Only
once
you'll
see
that
we've
we've
mentioned
97
acres.
This
is
actually
102
acre
parcel.
But
if
you
net
out
the
five
acres
for
the
church,
that's
97
acres
of
civic
space.
So
that's
the
difference
in
arithmetic
we've
taken
the
opportunity
to
look
at
other
significant
parks.
R
We
may
have
shared
this
with
some
of
you
in
the
past
around
the
country,
some
that
we've
been
involved
with
most
that
we
have
not
just
to
understand
the
scale
of
park
that
is
out
there.
Civic
place
central
places
that
communities
are
building
and
and
utilizing
and
understand
some
of
the
things
that
are
in
those
parks.
So
as
we
compare
that
to
our
park
program,
we're
on
par
with
other
progressive
communities
are
doing
relative
to
offerings
for
their
citizenry.
R
Some
of
those
costs,
because
we
need
to
talk
about
costs,
how
we
get
from
a
vision
to
build
construction
in
the
ground.
The
gathering
place
in
tulsa
oklahoma
is
66
acres.
I'll
start
by
saying
it
was
predominantly
privately
developed,
predominantly
privately
developed.
That
is
a
465
million
dollar
park.
R
R
So
again,
some
other
more
regional
or
local
comparisons.
Low
country
celebration,
which
is
a
fabulous
park
in
this
community,
is
10
acres.
It
is
architecture
heavy,
it
has
got
a
world-class
place
base.
It
is,
but
it's
only
10
acres
we're
one
tenth.
The
size
of
this
mid-island
tract
unity
park
in
greenville.
South
carolina
is
again
getting
closer
to
our
size,
but
it's
under
half
the
size
of
the
mid-island
tract.
It
too
has
a
pretty
robust
program.
R
The
mid-island
tract
you
can
see,
has
even
more
program,
but
we've
got
more
real
estate,
so
we
were
able
to
have
those
passive
recreation
uses
and
civic
uses,
and
it
fits
nicely
so
now
some
of
those
benchmark
costs
low
country
celebration
was
14
million
dollars,
that's
1.4
million
an
acre
again,
intensely
developed,
beautifully
developed,
beautifully
detailed,
wonderful
architecture
and
and
that's
the
cost
unity
park
in
greenville
38
million
dollars.
That's
approaching
that
million
dollar
an
acre
again.
R
It's
got
significant
some
significant
architecture,
but
also
was
very
heavy
in
the
restoration
side
of
things
mid
island
tract.
What's
that
going
to
be
for
97
acres,
we
broke
it
down
into
incremental
pieces
to
get
to
that
answer.
First,
that
framework
phase
the
first
part
of
restoring
the
water
bodies,
the
bulk
of
the
earthwork,
yet
creating
a
usable
park
at
the
end
of
the
day
and
also
usable
portions
of
the
undeveloped
park.
R
While
this
construction
is
taking
place,
it's
got
trails
playground,
the
footbridges
activity
space
for
pickup
play
all
the
utilities,
the
restoration
work,
storm
water
capacity
for
storm
water
management
for
aquifer,
recharge
for
healthier
water
bodies
and
the
and
the
conveyance
of
water
to
and
through
the
site
and
helping
to
restore
the
habitat.
What
used
to
be
a
golf
course
is
is
no
longer
going
to
be
such
for
that
it's
18
million
dollar
in
that
first
first
cost
that
includes
engineering
costs.
That
includes
permitting
costs.
R
That
also
brings
along
with
it
an
exaggerated
schedule
because
of
that
permitting
and
engineering
needs
to
do
that,
work
up
front
as
an
add-on
cost
or
enhancements.
As
we
have
said,
there's
an
opportunity,
as
we've
heard,
from
the
public
for
martin
luther
king
jr
memorial
in
in
the
park
also
for
a
dog
park.
Those
are
additive
pieces
that
can
happen
as
part
of
the
base
project
or
be
added
at
any
time,
but
we
do
need
to
restore
the
park
first.
R
The
next
phase
guinness
is
island
heritage
again
in
no
particular
sequence,
but
that
includes
the
community
cultural
gardens,
picnic
pavilions,
a
garden
shed
parking
and
entry
trails
event
lawn
for
any
number
of
activities
community-wide
native
islander
neighborhoods,
which
are
in
fact
adjacent
congregation
of
st
james
and
anybody
else.
That
happens
to
be
a
visitor,
that's
six
and
a
half
million
dollars,
and
could,
I
think,
should
be
done
in
conjunction
with
st
james,
a
multi-use
community
building
a
place
for
structured
activities
is
another
million
and
a
half
dollars.
R
Third
is
this
heart
of
the
tract?
This
is
what
I
consider
the
intense
people
place
of
the
park.
Again,
it's
act.
It's
accessed
off
of
dillon
road,
which
is
an
arterial,
and
it
provides
for
a
sculptural,
fountain
multi-use
community
facility
and
and
food
service
parking
nature,
play
trails,
picnic,
pavilions,
smaller
things
like
bocce
courts
and
and
chess
tables,
the
alameda,
which
is
a
linear
garden.
If
you
will
the
gateways
into
the
into
the
facility
footbridges
and
open
lawn
for
play,
that's
17
million
dollars,
there's
a
lot
of
hardscape
in
all
this
understand.
R
This
isn't
just
the
green
stuff,
the
plants
that
go
into
it,
but
it's
trails.
It's
it's
concrete!
It's
furniture,
it's
pavilions
and
and
restrooms
interactive
water
feature
is
another
two
million
dollars.
That
is
an
enhancement
piece
again
that
can
be
part
of
a
base
project
that
can
be
added
after
the
fact,
the
cultivated
landscapes.
R
R
The
eco
park
again
is
that
is
that
northeast
half
of
the
park
in
the
first
phase,
we
will
have
spread
some
earth
work.
We
will
have
done
the
the
baking
of
the
cake.
As
I
mentioned.
This
is
where
we
go
back
and
restore
the
the
vegetative
quality,
removing
invasives,
encouraging
the
indigenous
plants
and
adding
to
those
parking
picnic,
pavilions
observation
decks
for
the
water
bodies
and
for
for.
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R
So
all
of
that,
taken
together
looking
over
the
right
of
this
image,
those
costs
taken
in
total
range
from
five
hundred
thousand
dollars,
an
acre
to
seven
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
dollars
an
acre
so
we're
well
below
the
cost
on
a
per
acre
basis
or
10
times
larger
than
the
low
country
celebration
park,
or
even
below
that
of
of
unity
park
in
greenville,
which
is
a
very
similar
park.
Why
is
that
you
say,
because
the
majority
of
this
park
is
left
into
that
natural
environment.
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We've
got
to
restore
it
first
before
we
turn
it
over
to
mother
nature
again,
but
it
is.
It
is
not
architecture
intensive,
there's
other
improvement
opportunities.
We
know
that
psd
has
got
plans
for
for
some
infrastructure
enhancements
which
will
touch
the
edge
of
this
tract.
Also
through
the
ashmore.
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There
are
some
off-site
improvement
needs.
We
feel
we
heard
from
the
community
the
need
for
safer
pedestrian
on
bicycle
crossing
at
the
surface,
at
both
dylan
and
union
cemetery
dillon
road,
along
with
union
cemetery,
should
be
in
in
improved
to
have
some
street
side
parking,
some
ease
of
getting
out
of
an
automobile
and
walking
into
this
park,
walking
into
the
space
without
having
to
seek
out
a
parking
lot,
improved
lighting
at
those
intersections,
and
maybe
some
of
those
key
areas
in
improved
streetscape
landscape.
R
That's
not
part
of
those
cost
numbers
that
I
just
went
through.
Those
may
very
well
be
part
of
other
infrastructure
projects-
town
wide
one
part
of
the
of
the
recreation
program
that
we
did
not
put
in
the
mid
island,
but
we
put
in
the
ashmore,
and
that
is
this
18-hole
championship
disc
golf
there's
an
existing
disc
golf
facility
on
near
ashmore
adjacent
to
it
as
a
matter
of
fact,
but
this
is
a
very
friendly
way
of
dealing
with
the
ashmore
track.
Environmentally,
it's
got
restrictions
and
concerns
relative
to
the
trees.
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Wetlands,
water
courses,
restrictions
on
development-
this
is
something
that
can
work
very
friendly
with
nature,
will
provide
a
parking
area,
a
comfort
station,
restrooms
and
pavilion,
and
this
is
a
facility,
can
be
woven
through
the
trees
without
damaging
the
environment.
That's
a
million
and
a
half
to
two
and
a
half
million
dollars.
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R
R
So
it's
not
for
profits.
There's
a
lot
of
state
and
federal
grants.
Lord
knows:
there's
a
fair
amount
of
federal
money
floating
about
out
there
again,
the
private
donations
in
philanthropic
groups
and
partnerships
that
can
take
economic
ownership.
If
you
will
of
portions
of
this
some
of
those
funding
opportunities
with
the
the
cultivated
and
cultural
gardens,
there's
a
number
of
national
organizations
that
do
in
fact,
fund
these
and
operate
these
such
facilities.
R
The
eco
park,
many
in
this
audience,
who
have
been
so
involved
with
the
with
that
whole
initiative,
know
of
some
of
these
organizations
of
audubon
and
the
like
who
have
opportunities
and-
and
we
have
opportunities
to
take
advantage
of
programming
of
the
event
garden.
We've
got
a
wonderful
symphony
here.
We've
got
the
face.
Faith
based
organizations
that
may
take
advantage
of
the
general
public
can
also
take
advantage
of
some
of
these
spaces,
and
there
is
some
revenue
opportunities
there
as
well.
C
R
The
local
food
vendors-
I
I
mentioned
the
the
significance
of
the
gulligici
culture
and
history
of
the
place.
We've
got
an
opportunity
within
this
park
to
showcase
that
that
culture,
local
organizations
for
events,
there's
revenue
sharing
for
any
number
of
activities
that
may
happen
in
the
park,
but
keep
in
mind.
This
is
still
under
strict
town
control
town
operation,
but
there
are
smarter
ways
of
funding
some
of
these
opportunities.
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R
D
R
And
I
would
think
that
nothing
different
would
happen
here,
but
we
need
to
be
cognizant
as
we
put
on
capital
expenditure.
We've
got
to
operate
and
maintain
it
park.
Security
security
as
a
whole
is
important
in
society,
and
and
certainly
these
days
is
there
a
park
ambassador
core
that
we
may
instigate
is
this
public
safety
director
of
the
town,
along
with
the
sheriff's
department,
able
capable
and
sufficient
to
ensure
security
here
that
something
is
going
to
have
to
be
solid,
long-term,
also,
the
educational
programs.
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So
a
lot
of
folks
have
asked
us:
well:
what's
this
park
name
well,
we've
here24
have
called
it
the
mid
island
track
because
it's
a
tract
and
it's
in
the
mid
island,
but
I
I
doubt
that
that's
the
romantic
name
that
we
want
to.
We
want
to
place
on
this
there's
so
much
history
and
culture,
not
just
on
the
island,
but
specifically
in
this
district.
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What's
the
history
of
the
place,
tell
the
story
of
the
park
establish
some
guidelines
as
to
how
we're
going
to
select
that
park.
Name,
engage
the
public
through
workshops,
take
their
comments
and
then
curate
those
those
names
and
suggestions
for
consideration
by
town
council.
Now,
that's
that's
one
process.
Town
council
is
well
within
their
rights
to
go
name
this
as
they
see
fit,
and-
and
that
happens
all
the
time
so
we'll
just
put
this
forth
for
council
consideration
that
this
may
be
a
more
agreeable
process.
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So
all
in
what
we're
suggesting
is
that,
at
the
end
of
this
ashmore
working
with
the
mid-island
tract
and
as
we
grow
into
our
britches,
as
they
say,
with
phased
development,
this
will
be
a
best-in-class
park
at
the
center
of
the
island
mid-island
district.
It
is
the
central
park
for
the
central
park,
for
I
think
the
town
of
hilton
head
plain
and
simple.
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Our
next
steps
will
be
we're
here
on
on
the
14th
of
september.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
We
go
to
the
parks,
recreation
commission
for
briefing
in
on
in
early
october,
back
here,
the
first
of
november
for
consideration
by
council
for
adoption
of
not
just
this
vision
planned
as
concept
plan,
but
for
phase
one
of
the
mid-island
tract,
along
with
the
district
plan
as
a
whole.
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R
S
We
have
the
funding
to
move
on
into
that
detailed
design
that
brian
mentioned,
so
that
we
can
move
toward
bringing
conversation
and
part
of
fy
24
budgeting
about
what
you
might
want
phase
one
to
be
and
how
you
might
want
to
pay
for
that,
but
we'll
be
ready
to
go
on
and
move
in
to
that
detailed
design
based
on
the
funding
that
you've
already
approved
for
the
project
and
then
the
project
celebration,
like
brian
said,
there's
been
a
lot
of
effort.
I
know
when
we
started
talking.
S
Last
year
we
said
we
were
going
to
have
ground
breaking
and
a
shovel
in
the
ground
and
start,
and
we
all
realized
how
much
time
this
took
and
how
much
effort
we
needed
to
put
into
it
with
the
community
and
with
council,
and
so
we're
not
at
that
point,
but
it
it
will
be
time
to
say.
As
a
group
we've
come
up
with
a
plan,
that's
best
in
class.
That's
right
for
our
community
and
celebrate
that
as
we
move
into
that
detailed
design
of
being
able
to
put
that
shovel
in
the
ground.
H
Thank
you,
and,
as
always,
I'm
going
to
say
what
I
always
do.
This
is
more
than
best
in
class.
This
is
world
class.
This
is
an
exceptional
opportunity
to
provide
and
secure
and
preserve
for
the
future
97
acres
in
park
state,
and
because
of
that,
I
think
we
are
on
the
right
track,
a
point
to
that,
the
over
development.
If
we
were
not
to
preserve
and
protect
this
land,
I
don't
know
if
you
read
the
paper.
I
think
it
came
in
yesterday,
or
maybe
it
was
this
morning.
E
E
Is
it
more
important
than
workforce,
housing,
community,
housing
or
less
important,
and
if
this
is
70
million
dollars,
do
we
have
70
million
on
the
side
for
housing,
rhetorical
question?
Obviously,
but
it's
I'm
just
putting
it
out
there
that
we
have
priority
decisions
and
we
as
a
council
have
to
understand
where
our
investment
might
do
the
most
good
for
the
community,
but
I'm
in
full
support
of
this
program.
Thank
you.
Bill.
I
I
So
I
think,
just
by
the
inherent
design
of
this
this
park,
it
is
going
to
be
a
substantive,
long-term
attraction
for
this
community
and
something
you
know,
we're
always
looking
for
the
competitive
advantage,
and
we
do
have
a
lot
of
things
here
that
make
us
competitive.
This
will
put
us
put
us
a
step
ahead,
so
I
encourage
that
from
a
capital.
Financing
standpoint
is
going
to
be
tricky.
I
J
P
J
J
J
I
hope
I
see
it
completed,
but
that
remains
to
be
seen,
but
brian
and
andrew
and
your
team.
Thank
you
for
outstanding
concepts
that
really
speak
to
us
in
this
community,
because
I
understand
it
something
else
we're
going
to
be
doing
on
november.
The
first
is
approving
the
phase
one
or
at
least
that's
on
the
agenda
and,
as
I
understand
it,
phase
one
is
the
initial
engineering
and
correction
of
the
water
flows
and
that
sort
of
thing
getting
it
to
where
it
can
become
a
bar
park
later
on.
J
K
K
K
But
we
have
decided
that
doing
this
will
yield
some
type
of
return
on
investment
to
our
community,
particularly
with
the
idea
of
us
looking
for
redevelopment
in
the
mid
island
initiative
area.
Okay
and
we've
already
got
five
million
bucks
spit.
Basically
we're
gonna
move
forward
right
if
we
say
yes,
the
beginning
of
november.
K
K
So,
although
that
the
two
different
conversations
in
my
mind,
the
level
of
the
conversations
are
the
same,
so
I
just
want
to
make
that
point
as
far
as
being
relative.
So
I
you
know
at
this
point,
I
think
that
your
brightness
team
have
done
a
great
job
with
laying
this
out,
I'm
glad
that
that
number
is
now
associated
with
it.
K
The
only
question
I'd
ask
is
between
now
and
november,
I'm
glad
that
the
plan
is
being
shown
here
in
front
of
the
public
today,
but
is
there
an
opportunity
for
this
presentation
to
be
public
on
the
website
or
wherever,
along
the
way,
so
that
we
can
start
to
get
feedback
before
making
a
decision?
At
the
beginning.