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From YouTube: Town of Hilton Head Island, Gullah Geechee Land & Cultural Preservation Task Force Oct 10, at 1 PM
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Town of Hilton Head Island, Gullah Geechee Land & Cultural Preservation Task Force Meeting October 10, 2022, at 1 PM
Meeting Agenda available at https://www.hiltonheadislandsc.gov/towncouncil/agendas
A
Noon:
everyone
welcome
to
the
town
of
Hilton
Head,
Island,
galagichi,
land
and
cultural
preservation
task
force.
Meeting
today
is
October.
The
10th
2022.
I
would
like
to
thank
you
all
for
for
coming
and
we'd
like
to
go
ahead
and
officially
call
this
meeting
to
order
Karen.
Are
we
in
compliance
with
foia?
Yes,.
B
Mr
Abdul
Malik
president
Mr
Campbell
president
Mr
hands,
president
Mr
Stevens
here
and
Mr
Simmons
is
excused
and
I
have
not
heard
from
Miss
green.
Yet.
A
Okay,
seeing
as
how
we
we
don't
have
a
quorum
at
this
time,
we're
going
to
skip
through
approval
of
the
agenda
and
also
the
approval
of
the
minutes
from
our
September
12th
meeting
and
also
item
7e
on
the
agenda
is
the
proposed
2023
meeting
schedule
which
we
would
need
in
a
gen
a
quorum
to
approve
those
items.
So
we
will
skip
over
those
items
for
today
and
take
them
up
in
the
next
time
that
we
meet.
A
No
appearance
by
citizens,
anybody,
no
one
signed
up.
Okay,
great
again,
I
want
to
acknowledge
my
colleagues
for
being
here
and
taking
the
time,
and
certainly,
if
those
of
you
in
the
public
and
recognize
the
staff
or
the
work
that
they're
doing
with
our
our
task
force
here
and
also
any
of
the
other
Town
officials.
That
may
be
present
to
see
councilman
Brown.
Thank
you
for
being
here
as
well
and
the
rest
of
the
folks
that
are
here
with
the
town
staff.
A
At
this
time
we'll
go
ahead
and
move
to
the
discussion.
Items
and
I
have
the
mid
Island
Redevelopment
District
presentation
from
our
Consultants.
C
Hello,
Missy
lewick
community
plan
I'm
just
going
to
introduce
this
topic
for
you.
This
is
the
first
of
two
public
meetings
today
to
talk
about
the
mid
Island
District
recommendations
for
the
historic
neighborhoods,
we're
also
holding
another
meeting
tonight
at
five
at
the
Hilton
Head
Public
Library
and
I'm,
going
to
introduce
Andrew,
overbeck
and
Brian
kinselman.
They
are
the
Consultants
that
are
going
to
make
this
presentation
for
you
today.
D
Good
afternoon
good
afternoon
pleasure
to
be
here
and
good
to
see,
see
you
all
again,
let's
go
to
full
screen
here.
Brian
also
be
joining
joining
me
here
today.
We
wanted
to
follow
up
after
the
last
Town
Council
Workshop
about
three
weeks
ago,
with
information
and
get
your
feedback
on
the
mid
Island
District
in
tract
work
that
we've
been
doing
for
the
better
part
of
last
year,
or
so
with
staff.
D
The
community
Town
Council,
and
give
you
this
update
today
and
get
get
your
thoughts
and
feedback
as
we
start
to
get
toward
ultimate
recommendations
and
and
figure.
It
was
a
good
chance
to
touch
base.
I
know
you
were
some
of
you
were
at
the
last
Town
Council
Workshop,
so
we'll
we'll
sort
of
Step
through
what
we've,
what
we've
been
up
to
and
have
a
chance
to
review
with
you.
The
the
background
engagement
results
that
we've
received.
We've
got
some
information
about.
D
D
You
know
we
started
this
work
by
looking
back
at
all
the
great
planning
work
that
precedes
it.
So
you
have
a
you
know,
comprehensive
plan.
Our
plan
really
sets
the
stage
for
what's
happening.
The
community
that
work-
you
know
done
together
with
with
your
residents,
really
important
for
us
to
sort
of
continually
go
back
to
and
look
at
along
with
the
gulligichi
culture
preservation.
Project
report
again
had
a
lot
of
recommendations
embedded
in
that
report.
That
I
know
you
all
been
working
very
diligently
on.
D
You
know
implementing
most
recently
the
approval
from
Council
of
creating
the
goligichi
historic,
neighborhoods,
Community
Development
Corporation,
which
I
think
will
help
to
really
push
forward
a
lot
of
those
recommendations
and
give
that
support.
That's
needed
for
folks
to
really
realize
you
know
the
potential
of
their
communities
so
having
that
tool
as
a
resource
is
really
really
important.
That's
something
that
you
know
immediately
came
to
mind
as
we
were
reading
through
that.
It's
great
to
see
that
that
step
being
taken
going
ahead,
I
think
be
very
helpful.
D
So
August
of
last
year
started
to
do
a
stakeholder
engagement
and
stakeholder.
We
mean
sort
of
every
member
of
the
community,
so
we
did
two
open
Park
Day
events
had
a
very
good
response
to
an
open,
Town,
Hall
survey
and
then
went
one-on-one
with
with
more
than
100
stakeholders
and
about
a
number
of
different
community
outreach
meetings
going
going
through
the
the
last
year
make
sure
we
touch
base
with
with
the
right
people
and
had
had
good
conversations
with
folks.
D
So
these
are
the
groups
generally
the
groups
of
people
that
we've
that
we've
met
with
not
the
individuals
but
the
groups
of
folks,
a
lot
more
invited.
You
know
beyond
100,
plus
that
we
actually
talked
with,
but
really
had
the
chance
to
have
that
one-on-one
dialogue
with
with
a
good
group
of
folks
through
this
process
and
I'll,
highlight
a
few.
A
few
results
from
that
and
I'll
go
through
here.
D
I've
got
a
slide
on
you
know
what
is
the
the
mid
Island
district
is
defined
for
the
planning
work
here
in
a
moment,
but
we
ask
people
what's
missing
in
the
district
I
think,
knowing
that
the
Planters
Road
Golf
Course
was
being
thought
of
from
the
park
Parks
and
Recreation
master
plan.
D
As
a
park
space,
not
surprisingly,
people
had
you
know
Park
as
one
of
their
highest
things,
but
I
think
I'd
like
to
draw
your
attention
to
the
rest
of
those
things
on
the
graph
as
his
Tails
out
the
idea
of
having
you
know:
different
types
of
housing,
Workforce
housing,
shopping
events,
dining
walkable
streets.
Those
are
all
things
that
suggest
more
of
a
neighborhood
and
and
not
just
pockets
of
development,
which
is
you
know
what
really
typifies
the
district.
So
how
do
we?
How
do
we
do
that?
D
D
You
know:
we've
worked
through
a
separate
process
in
the
park,
but
as
we
look
at
the
district
lot
of
people
concerned
about
walkability
traffic
safety,
the
neglected
shopping,
centers
or
the
perception
of
them
being
neglected,
affordable,
Workforce
housing
and
then
making
sure
that
the
character
of
the
island
is
is
balanced
as
as
things
evolve,
because
we
all
we
all
know
that
they
they
will
continue
to
evolve.
D
Second
Connecting
People
Open,
Spaces,
neighborhoods
Community
hubs
together
and
that
gets
to
some
of
the
safety
and
connectivity
that
we
were
talking
about
or
heard
from
people
and
then
an
evolution.
We,
you
know,
look
at
some
of
the
things
when
people
say
well,
the
shopping
centers
you
know
need
to
be
upgraded.
Well.
That
starts
to
have
us
look
at
land
these
and
are
there
different
mixes
of
uses
that
can
happen
as
we
see
development
happening
elsewhere
in
the
community.
D
You
know
going
back
to
the
preservation
report,
there's
sort
of
a
desire
for
different
types
of
neighborhood
commercial
to
support
home-based
business.
There
was
certainly
a
desire
to
have
a
greater
density
and
more
forgiveness
and
some
of
the
setbacks
and
buffers
that
really
hamper
the
ability
of
individuals
to
to
do
things
with
their
property.
So
again
we
recognize
that
this
has
been
a
topic.
D
That's
been
discussed
here
for
a
better
part
of
a
last
two
years,
but
as
we
think
through
what
are
some
things
that
could
be
implemented
from
the
preservation
report,
giving
people
that
flexibility
and
the
ability
to
control
their
own
destiny,
really
what
we
were
sort
of
working
through
there
and
and
have
some
things.
We
want
to
get
your
thoughts
on
today
and
then
we'll
be
working
through
implementation
framework,
because
none
of
this
really
means
anything
unless
it's
followed
through
upon.
So
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
we're
thinking
through.
D
This
is
basically
the
study
area
and
it's
evolved
a
little
bit,
I.
Think
as
we've
gone
through
this
a
couple
council
members
said:
hey,
we
should
get.
You
know
all
the
historic
neighborhoods
in
this,
this
part
of
the
island
together,
so
big
all
is
sort
of
the
northernmost
or
I
guess
farthest
Northeast.
D
Let
me
go
all
the
way
down
to
Marshland
Beach,
City,
Road
and
Union
Cemetery
and
Dylan
on
the
other
side,
so
that,
as
we
refer
to
the
district,
this
is
the
geography
that
we're
referring
to
fully
understanding
that
that's
not
something-
that's
maybe
recognized
by
a
large
cross-section
of
the
community.
D
But
again
we
had
to
sort
of
put
some
put
some
lines
on
a
map
and
it's
evolved
as
we've
talked
to
people,
it's
it's
grown
a
little
bit
as
well,
but
we're
very
and
what
we're
going
to
talk
about
today
is
the
historic
neighborhood.
So
again,
this
provides
that
basis
of
understanding
that
we've
got
these
really
important,
neighborhoods,
that
that
have
a
culture
unique
to
themselves
and
there's
been
some
pieces
in
the
preservation
report
that
that
we
were
trying
to
think
through
as
it
relates
to
land
use.
D
So
again,
we've
got
an
existing
zoning
code,
we'll
sort
of
toggle
back
to
this
here
in
a
moment
to
look
through
some
of
the
areas
of
focus
primarily
looking
at.
What's
in
the
rm4,
that's
where
a
lot
of
preservation
report
recommendations
lie
and
then
the
land
use
today
and
go
through
these
neighborhood
by
neighborhood
we've
got
14
different
categories.
One
of
the
challenges
that
that's
sort
of
been
laid
at
our
feet
is:
how
do
we
start
to
collapse?
D
Those
categories
consolidate
those
in
a
way:
that's
a
little
bit
more
user
friendly
and
maybe
also
pairs
up
more
accurate
with
what
people
want
to
see
happen
in
their
community.
So
here
we've
got
quite
a
cross-section.
We've
worked
to
sort
of
consolidate
those
a
little
bit
as
well
down
into
these
seven
categories,
so
you
can
see
here,
there's
there's
some
opportunities
for
different
type
of
development.
That's
in
the
purple!
That's
a
mixed
use
category
that
we
think
we
could
have
not
only
sort
of
better
shopping.
D
Centers,
Better
Community
assets
there
than
exist
today
and
by
providing
that,
instead
of
just
being
you
know,
retail
commercial
having
it
be
that
mix
of
uses
that
really
will
help
it
be
more
of
a
community
destination,
a
place
where
people
live.
You
know
live
work
and
play
come
together
as
a
community
having
a
Landis
or
a
land
use
category
there
that
embodies
that
helps
that
to
helps
that
to
occur.
D
So
that's
that
purple
area,
that's
a
pretty
major
area
of
sort
of
consolidation
and
a
bit
of
a
different
way
of
looking
at
it,
based
on
the
community
feedback
that
we've
gotten
and
then
also
the
residential
neighborhood
commercial.
Really
looking
back
again
at
the
recommendations
of
preservation
report
that
acknowledge
that
there
are
some
concerns
about
you
know
the
ability
to
to
you
know
develop
land
if
you
wanted
to
and
have
those
home
based
or
neighborhood
commercial
businesses
in
those
categories.
D
So
again
it
felt
like
it
was
made
sense
to
go
ahead
and
put
that
in
as
a
as
a
land
use
category
to
really
really
take
those
preservation
report,
recommendations
to
heart
so
go
through
these
a
little
bit
at
a
time.
You
know
the
major
categories:
commercial
service
we're
still
going
to
need
to
have.
We
did
a
market
study
that
showed
there's
still
a
need,
for
you
know
these
job
creating
uses
light
industrial
uses
in
this
District,
specifically
around
the
airport.
D
Preserving
those
and
enabling
those
job
creating
uses
to
continue
to
exist,
so
you
see
those
sort
of
occur
throughout
the
district.
There
are
a
handful
along
Matthews,
along
Dylan
of
retail
service,
lodging
where
we've
got
some
hotels
and
some
existing
retail
services
that
we
think
makes
sense
to
continue
to
exist
along
those
corridors
and
then
getting
into
these
mixed-use
categories
again,
allowing
a
mix
of
different
things:
retail,
restaurant
Apartments,
Town,
Homes,
Office
institutional,
open
space,
a
little
greater
density
to
allow
for
the
need
for
housing.
So
we
talked
about
the
need
for
housing.
D
This
is
a
place
where
we
think
we
can
get
a
good
amount
of
it
into
this
mix
again,
keeping
it
to
the
sort
of
Hilton
Head
standard
one
to
three
stories.
We
also
have
an
airport
nearby,
so
we
have
to
be
cognizant
of
that
as
anything
gets
built.
And
then
one
of
the
major
points
here
is
that
we
share
parking.
We've
got
to
get
rid
of
surface
parking
in
order
to
create
those
Community
spaces.
D
Surface
parking
lots
are
convenient,
but
they
don't
make
for
a
very
friendly
place
to
be
so,
as
we
think
about
the
mix
of
uses,
that's
going
to
require
a
different
way
of
thinking
about
how
that
development
pattern
exists.
It's
going
to
take
some
support
from
the
community
to
make
that
happen,
but
this
is
a
fairly
large
area
of
change
from
from
our
work
and
then
again
in
the
neighborhood
residential
commercial
primary
uses
here
are
residential,
obviously,
there's
a
mixture
of
different
types
of
residential
in
these
areas.
D
D
The
other
thing
that's
really
not
in
there
today,
which
is
in
the
preservation
report-
are
those
neighborhood
commercial,
home
business
opportunities
so
having
something
in
there
that
supports
that
use
enables
that
to
happen,
something
that
we
wanted
to
run
by
you
today
and
then
the
density
we'll
talk
about
this
in
a
little
greater
detail
right
now.
A
lot
of
the
areas
of
potential
change
here
are
rm4,
which
does
allow
between
four
and
eight
dwellings
an
acre.
D
We
think
it
makes
sense,
as
we've
talked
to
people
and
talked
to
council,
that's
six
to
eight
that
range
of
six
to
eight
could
work
and
we'll
show
you
some
examples
where
in
the
district
today
that
really
start
at
that.
Six
and
again,
this
is
pretty
consistent
with
the
preservation
report
as
well,
so
want
to
focus
in
on
that.
So
we
can
have
some
conversation
about
that
today.
D
We're
focusing
in
on
these
yellow
areas
and
specifically
I
think
important
to
acknowledge
what
the
preservation
report
said
and
it's
as
I've
described,
allowing
for
higher
densities
in
land
zone
rm4.
So
that's
something
we
wanted
to
look
at,
reduce
the
setback
and
buffering
requirements
that
really
constrains
the
ability.
People
to
use
some
of
those
smaller
parcels
and
also
the
open
space
requirement
is
also
something
that
I
think
some
flexibility
there.
So
again,
those
are
recommendations
from
the
preservation
report.
They
recommend
an
overlay
which,
in
our
minds,
is
a
great.
D
We
see
it
all
the
time
we
work
with
a
number
of
communities
across
the
country.
Overlay
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
If
you
want
to
do
something
quickly
and
impact
that
that
change,
you
know
fairly
rapidly.
The
thing
that
we
run
into
in
other
communities
is
once
you
put
in
an
overlay
and
another
overlay
and
another
overlay.
D
It's
a
lot
to
to
Wade
through
at
whether
you're
a
property
owner,
whether
you're
someone
that's
trying
to
you
know,
get
something
done,
it's
much
more
effective
to
have
an
actual
code
that
matches
what
you
want
it
to
be,
and
so
our
recommendation
from
working
with
number
of
other
communities
once
that
overlay
gets
going.
It's
hard
to
it's
hard
to
hard
to
legislate
it
after
a
while
it's
hard
to
go
through
that
and
and
make
sense
of
it
to
change
the
actual
thing.
D
That's
the
problem,
which
is
the
code,
would
be
we'd,
recommend
just
go
ahead
and
make
that
step.
Overlay
really
is
kind
of
a
Band-Aid,
whereas
the
code
change
shows
commitment
that
we're
going
to
change
this
and
do
it
the
right
way.
So
that's
our
recommendation.
We
work
with
a
lot
of
communities
that
put
in
overlays
and
then
they
come
back
later
and
update
the
code.
Finally,
and
we
think
it's
better
just
go
ahead
and
update
the
code
and
have
it
reflect
what
you
want
it
to
reflect.
D
So,
as
we
looked
at
that,
we
think
there's
an
opportunity
here,
as
the
preservation
report
is
outlined,
to
advance
and
celebrate
the
history
and
culture
of
this
part
of
the
island
to
enable
these
historic,
neighborhoods
and
people
live
there
to
be
economically
sustainable.
You
know
that
has
to
do
with
being
able
to.
D
You
know,
develop
a
property
if
they
so
choose
in
the
way
that
they'd
like
and
also
has
those
home-based
businesses,
those
neighborhood
commercial
uses
embedded
in
it,
there's
an
opportunity,
as
we
look
at
this
this
part,
this
specific
land
use
and
the
mixes
District
to
expand
that
need
for
housing,
address
the
the
needs
for
affordable
Workforce
options
as
well
and
get
people
the
flexibility
to
optimize
the
use
of
their
property
as
AC
fit.
So
those
are
things
that
we
really
pointed
back
to.
We
looked
at
the
preservation
report.
D
We
feel
a
pretty
consistent
as
we
move
ahead
with
some
recommendations,
so
for
each
of
these,
just
I'll
go
through
these
one.
At
a
time
you
know
we're
primarily
focusing
in
as
the
preservation
report
guided
us
to
look
at
those
rm4
low
to
moderate
density
parts
of
the
district.
Those
that
rm4
is
in
every
single
one
of
the
historic
neighborhoods
today
and
we
looked
through
sort
of
what
the
existing
land
uses
are
for
each
of
those
five.
D
So
the
existing
land
use
here
in
grassland,
you
can
see
it's
a
mixture
of
multi-family,
single
family
and
open
space
undeveloped,
and
you
have
a
couple
different
zoning
categories.
You
do
have
some
rm12,
that's
here,
but
primarily
we'd,
be
looking
at
just
like
the
preservation
report
suggested
that
we
look
at
rm4
for
some
potential
changes.
There
I
think
it's
important
to
note
in
today's
code
again
another
place
where
there's
a
lot
of
different
rules
to
navigate.
D
You
can
see
here
even
under
rm4,
there's
different
rules
right.
So
if
it's,
if
you
have
a
three
acre
parcel,
you
can
do
six
dwelling
units
an
acre.
If
you
have
a
five
acre
parsley,
you
can
do
eight.
So
again,
you've
got
that
range
kind
of
embedded
in
the
code
today.
What
we're
suggesting
it
makes
a
lot
easier
is
just
to
say
it's.
D
This
is
the
case,
regardless
of
parcel
size,
so
six
to
eight
twenty
units,
an
acre,
regardless
of
parcel
size,
another
way
of
sort
of
simplifying
things
and
making
sort
of
the
rules
of
the
road
a
little
bit
easier
for
for
everyone.
Should
they
choose
to
to
do
anything
on
their
property?
So
that's
another
another
sort
of
piece
there
to
simplify
things,
a
little
bit
again,
I
think
the
the
preservation
report.
These
are
the
exact
recommendations.
D
You
know
they
they
again
were
trying
to
fit
things
into
the
parcel
size
by
parcel
size
again.
We're
suggesting
you
know
simplifying
that,
but
I
think
here
you
know
we're
talking
about
the
same
sort
of
conditional
uses
being
part
of
that
as
neighborhood
commercial
right.
These
are
the
types
of
things
that
people
would
like
to
be
able
to
do
with
their
property
so
allowing
for
you
know
the
bed
and
breakfast
convenience
store
opener
sales,
other
Commercial
Services.
That
would
be
part
of
that
that
you
know
buy
right
inside
inside
the
the
code
change.
D
So
we
did
this
for
every
single
neighborhood
just
to
just
sort
of
take
a
look
and
make
sure
we
weren't
missing
anything
again.
We
looked
at
land
use
for
for
big
hill.
We
looked
at
the
zoning.
Most
of
that
is
is
light
industrial
and
again
pretty
big
piece
rm4,
although
you
know
there's
development
on
all
of
these
right,
so
how
much
infill
can
happen,
something
that'll
that
would
be
determined
over
time
and
again
same
same
recommendations.
I
think.
D
It's
also
important
to
note
that,
in
order
to
make
these
some
of
these
Parcels
developable,
we've
got
to
reduce
the
buffer
setback
right
away,
access,
easement
requirements,
and
those
are
things
that
you
know.
We'd
recommend
be
in
that
code
change
as
well
a
little
bit
different
up
in
Mitchellville.
There's
a
a
lot
of
different
types
of
uses.
Again
only
talking,
as
the
preservation
report
was
talking
about,
any
changes
would
be
to
rm4.
Everything
else
would
remain,
as
is.
D
And
the
same
with
Marshall,
and
although
some
of
these
Parcels
here
are
seeing
some
some
use
on
them
today,
so
with
that
you
know
to
sort
of
summarize
where
we've
landed
and
what
we
want
to
talk
to
you
about
today.
D
Again,
as
we
look
at
uses
and
and
being
you
know,
true
to
what
we've
heard
from
the
community,
what's
in
the
report
you'll
after
that
mix
of
uses
residential
neighborhood
commercial
home
business
opportunities,
a
range
of
six
to
twelve,
six
to
eight
dwelling
units,
an
acre
again
regardless
of
parcel
size,
if
in
rm4
so
again
to
be
changing
that
to
six
to
eight
I
feel
like
that,
will
allow
the
opportunities
for
additional
residential
development,
if
so
chosen
by
the
property
owner
again,
that
would
also
relax
those
those
other
standards
that
make
it
difficult
to
develop
smaller
parcels
and,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
create
a
walkable
neighborhood
scale.
D
You
know
really
interconnected
Community.
You
can
see
some
of
the
you
know.
These
are
benchmarks
of
some
things
we
pulled
in
terms
of
different.
You
know
Styles
and
characters
their
development,
and
you
know
the
big
move
here.
I
think
is
that
consistency.
You
know
making
that
commitment
and
the
code
to
get
it
right
and
make
that
change.
If
we
you
all
been
talking
about
for
quite
a
while,
we
need
to
calibrate
those
setback
and
buffering
requirements.
D
D
We
did
look
at
a
number
of
different
recent
developments
to
just
see
what
they
did
in
terms
of
dwellings
per
acre
and
where
they
landed
in
the
type
of
housing
that
they
built,
and
we
really
found
that
you
got
pretty
close
to
Six,
if
not
right
at
it
and
a
lot
of
these
recent
developments.
So
again,
we
feel
like
that
starting
point
of
six
going
up
to
eight
really
does
sort
of
match,
what's
what's
happening
in
in
the
world
already,
so
this
isn't
grassland.
D
This
again
was
a
three
acre
site.
They,
they
built
18
units
at
5.7,
millionths,
an
acre
so
again
pretty
pretty
close
to
Six
up
in
Mitchellville
a
little
over
five.
These
are
44
single
family
units
on
a
little
over
eight
Acres,
so
again,
a
different
type
of
product,
but
again
sort
of
Landing
in
that,
in
that
zone
of
throwing
units
per
acre
again
in
Mitchellville
a
little
bit
different,
this
they
were
allowed
12,
28
sneaker.
D
They
built
32
family
units
on
five
acres,
again
right
at
six
doing,
sneaker
and
then
finally
looked
down
at
recent
development
of
Marshall
and
a
little
over
five
23
single
family
units
so
again
different
types
of
units,
different
types
of
of
yield
there,
but
again
we
feel
like
it's
sort
of
in
the
in
a
you
know,
in
the
right
spot.
As
far
as
you
know,
the
densities
and
product
type
that's
out
there
as
work
goes
on.
D
It
might
be
different
product
types
desired
more
than
but
more
than
another,
but
you're
seeing
you're
getting
a
good
mix
of
that,
depending
where
you
are
in
the
neighborhood
and
then
again,
you
know
kind
of
a
character
sketch.
How
would
we
start
to
think
about?
You
know
things
you
know
coming
into
in
a
place.
You
can
see
how
you
can
start
to
get
a
mixture
of
different
types
of
housing,
different
types
of
maybe
businesses
that
that
could
occur
in
these.
D
That
would
give
people
some
guidance
on
on
how
to
do
things
well,
but
also
support
them
in
that
so
again.
Having
that
Development
Corporation
is
really
key,
and
that's
really
the
last
point
there,
which
is
that
organizational
Financial
tools
to
guide
implementation
and
help
people
do
things
again
that
Development
Corporation
really
is
a
great
first
step
in
in
that
direction.
So
that's
where
we
are
at
the
moment
want
to
make
sure
we
have
time
to
have
some
conversation.
D
Staff
will
be
taking
these
recommendations
to
the
Planning
Commission
on
the
19th,
we're
working
toward
an
adoption
by
resolution
with
Council
November
1st,
and
then
the
work
begins.
So,
as
we
start
to
put
this
together,
that
implementation
strategy
is
really
very
deep
and
very
purposeful.
The
you
know
any
of
these
changes
aren't
going
to
happen.
You
know
on
November
1st.
They
would
happen
after
that
fact,
and
these
conversations
would
continue
to
make
sure
that
any
changes
to
zoning
design
guidelines,
Etc,
would
be
you
know,
part
of
the
community
conversation.
A
Thank
you,
Andrew
I
want
to
open
up
to
my
my
colleagues.
First,
let
me
just
pause
for
a
second
I
need
to
ask
a
technical
question
here:
I
believe
we
have
a
quorum
now.
Can
we
pause
maybe
and
go
back
and
approvements.
A
Okay,
I
appreciate
your
patience
and
just
making
an
adjustment
here,
I'd
like
to
go
back
and
to
item
number
four.
Thank
you,
Miss
green
for
making
the
effort
to
be
here,
and
then
we
have
challenges
in
our
lives
with
family
and
children,
and
she
told
me
she
was
going
to
be
here
and
she
asked
me
if
there
were
children
allowed
to
come
to
this
meeting
and
I
certainly
encouraged
that
so
hopefully,
we've
got
some
younger
folks
in
in
the
audience
who
made
me
one
day,
chairman
or
president
of
the
United
States.
A
A
Okay,
Mr
Malik
make
some
emotion.
Is
there
a
second
Mr
hands
seconds
averages
my
show
of
hands?
Okay,
that
approves
unanimously
and
the
other
is
the
approval
of
the
minutes
from
our
regular
meeting
on
September
the
12th.
Hopefully,
you've
had
a
chance
to
read
through
those
minutes.
If
there's
no
revisions,
I'd
like
to
entertain
a
motion
to
approve
those
minutes,
I'll.
A
Mr
Malik
will
make
the
motion
to
Mr
Campbell
will
second,
okay,
all
those
in
favor
that
passes
unanimously
unanimously
as
well.
Now
do
I
need
to
wait
on
the
other
item.
I
guess,
because
we
haven't
had
that
discussion
for
the
meeting
calendar
right.
Okay,
I,
don't
know
if
we'll
get
that
one
or
not,
because
I
know
some
of
my
members
have
to
leave
to
have
some
some
constraints.
A
Okay,
back
to
the
the
mid
Island
Redevelopment
District
I
want
to
start
with
my
colleagues
here
on
the
diocese.
If
you
have
any
questions
or
comments
for
Andrew
or
for
Brian
Mr
Malik
I'll
start.
E
E
One.
One
idea
that
we
wanted
to
express
too
was
I
recall
when
we
were
in
the
community
talking
about
the
overlay
that
overlay
was
was
intended
to
be
more
of
a
concept
as
it
was
a
physical
you
know,
line
drawn.
You
know,
properties,
so
I'm
glad
to
see
that
that
concept,
that
idea
is
progressing
towards
that
and
then
I
guess.
Another
question
that
I
have
would
be.
These
recommendations
are
accepted
for
this
mid
Island
project
when
they
have
application
in
other
areas
of
our
neighborhoods
outside
of
that
area.
D
F
Good
afternoon,
Sean
Poland,
that's
a
great
comment.
You
know
the
mid
Island
tract
is
the
first
sort
of
initiative
area
that
we're
looking
at
we'll
look
at
other
other
districts
and
then
stitch
together
into
a
growth
framework
and
Allied
master
plan,
but
so
I
think
it's
we'll
learn
from
the
recommendations
that
that
have
emerged
and
we'll
go
to
council
here
on
November
1st,
but
they
can
apply
it
to
other
areas.
Yes,
sir,
okay.
E
So
so,
just
so
I'm
clear,
because
you
have
a
situation
where
you
you,
just
like
1.1
smallest
fit
of
what's
required
to
have
certain
density
on
certain
development
and
the
rule
has
been
accepted
for
this
area
and
it
can
generally
apply
to
you
know
a
different
area
and
you're
saying
to
me
that
that
opportunity
is
going
to
be
there.
Yeah.
F
We
believe
that
we,
the
it's
taken
some
time
to
get
this
first
district,
to
a
position
where
we're
ready
to
bring
It
Forward
for
reviewing
for
Council
consideration.
The
other
districts
that
we
will
identify
and
move
forward
will
move
forward
much
more
quickly.
I
believe
that
the
rm4
recommendations
that
are
included
and
discussed
here
today
there
will
be
application
that
make
sense
in
other
areas
outside
of
this
District
in
the
future
appreciate
it.
A
Okay,
I
also
wanted
to
recognize
councilman
Ames.
Thank
you
for
being
here
as
well.
Joyce
Wright
is
also
one
of
our
members
that
was
out
for
a
while
you're
welcome
to
join
us
on
today's,
if
you'd
like
you're
good
right
there.
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
being
here:
okay,
I'm,
sorry,
Mr,
Hintz,.
G
Thank
you
for
your
presentation.
Think
the
thing
that
I
am
chewing
on
is
so
so
you've
there's
inherently
conflict
of
interest.
Any
time
you
have
a
neighborhood
you're
going
to
have
some
people
that
want
more
density.
Some
people
are
going
to
want
more
quiet.
Some
people
are
going
to
want
Marshall
opportunities.
Some
people
say
no.
This
is
residential,
so
and
then
so.
You've
made
the
determination,
75
residential
25
commercial.
G
I
know
you
I
know
you
surveyed
many
from
within
those
communities.
Do
you
think
that
you
have
consensus
or
or
do
you
think
that
you
don't
yeah.
D
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
fair
question.
The
recommendation
would
be
that
we
explore
the
the
you
know.
Change
of
the
zoning
code.
I
think
there'd
be
more
Community
conversation
to
follow
that.
So
that's
the
recommendation
from
this
plan,
the
plan's
not
an
ordinance
the
the
zoning
code
is
so
I
think
there
would
need
to
be
more
conversation
around
that
zoning
code.
G
D
Yeah
or
at
the
recommendation
stage,
right
and
and
so
there's
like
I,
said
more
work
to
be
done
when
you
get
to
changing
an
ordinance.
D
In
different
communities
within
the
district
yeah,
we
had
a
historic
neighborhood
meeting
in
January
of
this
year,
as
well
as
some
stakeholder
conversations,
so
that
was
that
was
the
basis
of
that
and
and
looking
at
the
preservation
report.
A
Okay,
I
have
a
couple
of
comments
and
maybe
there's
a
question
in
there,
but
you
know
and
thank
you,
gentlemen,
for
for
your
presentation
and
the
work
that
you're
doing,
which
does
seem
to
incorporate
a
lot
of
what
was
in
the
gullage
cultural
preservation
report.
A
There
is
a
lot
of
movement
in
the
community
with
the
establishment,
as
you
mentioned,
of
The
Economic
Development
Corporation,
which
we
think
will
help
to
give
some
folks,
some
more
resources
and
hopefully
a
better
understanding
about
the
opportunities
that
exist
for
folks
that
want
to
do
different
things
with
their
land,
Mr,
Malik
and
and
also
Mr.
Hence,
I
believe
that
the
Economic
Development
Corporation
will
start
with
the
concentration
around
the
Stony
area.
A
But,
as
you
mentioned
before
is
this
is
something
that
can
be
applied
to
the
total
Island
and
especially
those
in
the
historic
neighborhoods
and
I'd.
Just
like
you
to
maybe
reiterate
the
point
about
the
the
rm4
and
the
six
units
and
if
you
have
I
believe
five
acres
or
more
that
you
can
certainly
increase
that
density
in
that
usage
right.
D
So
are
you
speaking
to
what's
there
now,
yes,
yeah.
D
So
yeah
underarmed
for
today,
depending
on
your
parcel
size,
it's
everything
from
four
to
eight
and
so
what
the
recommendation
we're
making
is,
regardless
of
your
parcel
size,
six
to
eight.
So
there's
not
this
sliding
scale
depending
on
parcel
size.
It's
it's
consistent.
Everyone
has
the
same
abilities.
Everybody
else
has,
and
so
that's
a
way
of
sort
of
simplifying
the
the
rules.
A
And
have
you
have
you
guys
had
a
chance
to
actually
look
at
maybe
some
test
sites
to
see
exactly
because
you
know
a
lot
of
the
properties
are
not
perfectly
shaped.
That's
right
and
that's
always
our
challenge.
Yeah.
D
Absolutely
you
know:
I
I
think
we
didn't
want
to
be
presumptuous
and
and
draw
things
on
people's
people's
properties.
Certainly
I.
Think
as
you
look
at
grassland,
that's
the
most
uniform,
probably
of
of
of
all
of
them
and
again
someone's
Choice,
whether
they
want
to
do
that
or
not,
but
I.
Think,
as
you
look
at
this
one,
where
they've
sort
of
taken
that
a
little
over
three
acre
parcel,
you
know
fitting
18
to
20
units
there.
It
seems
pretty
reasonable.
D
So
you
know
if
you,
if
you
just
wanted
to
sort
of
visualize
a
copy
and
paste
of
that
on
some
of
those
other.
Similarly
sized
Parcels,
you
know
you
could
you
could
wind
up
another
20
30
40
60
units?
If
someone
wanted
to
do
that,
and
so
that's
you
know,
that's
as
far
as
we've
we've
gone
to
sort
of
say,
you
know
what,
if
I
think,
as
we
sort
of
did
some
back
of
the
envelope
just
to
see
how
impactful
this
change
might
be.
D
I
think
you
know
if
people
wanted
to
do
something
on
their
properties,
there
could
be
another
two
to
four
hundred
units.
Potentially,
but
again
that's
really
cursory,
it's
not
there's
science
behind
it,
but
we
wanted
to
make
sure
before
we
made
a
recommendation
that
there
was
some
impact
that
would
be
beneficial
to
folks
and
so
not
saying
that'll
happen,
but
it
seems
in
the
realm
of
possibility
if
people
so
chose
yeah.
A
And
you'd
also
mention
some
opportunities
for,
as
we
were
talking
about,
like
the
commercial
part,
the
commercial
uses
of
property,
but
you'd
also
mention
the
opportunity,
maybe
for
like
some
open-air
markets
and
other
neighborhood
uses,
and
you
do
have
that
in
your
plan.
I
just
want
you
to
kind
of
maybe
re-explain
that
for
us
again.
D
A
I
mean
because
lately
we've
had
some
questions
about
such
things
as
pop-up
markets,
I've
heard,
and
you
know
just
flea
market
type
things
or
even
the
the
vegetables.
You
know
like
the
guard
markets
and
opportunities
like
that.
So
there
will
be
some
some
chances
for
people
to
consider
things
like
that.
Yes,
and
and
you'll
be
working
along
with
staff,
I'm
sure
to
identify
some
of
the
codes
and
things
that
might
need
to
be
changed
to.
F
I
And
gentlemen,
again
I'm
Brian
kinselman
Andrew's
business
partner,
just
just
one
last
comment
relative
to
the
earlier
the
density
issue.
We
felt
it
was
Equitable
to
have
this
this
density
standard
so
that
smaller
partials
aren't
being
punished,
quite
frankly,
I
think
also
with
the
institution
of
a
Development
Corporation,
which
I
think
is
going
to
be
tremendous,
with
a
focus
specifically
on
the
historic
neighborhoods
to
bring
some
consultation
and
some
impetus,
and
some
maybe
financing
to
that.
I
There's
an
opportunity
for
individual
parcel
owners
also
to
assemble,
come
together
and
decide
what
they
want
to
do
with
their
their
Collective
Parcels,
so
that
we're
not
dealing
with
just
this
peace
and
that
peace,
and
certainly
we've
got
the
wherewithal
to
do
so
as
exhibited
by
this.
This
image
on
the
wall,
so
putting
those,
maybe
larger,
combined
properties
together
to
three
acre
Parcels
into
one
six
acre
parcel
is
going
to
give
you
more
flexibility.
I
When
it
comes
to
development,
I
think
the
market,
the
market
forces
will
determine
where
some
of
these
commercial
uses
make
sense.
You
know
there's
one
thing
in
retail
that
is
consistent
and
that
is
visibility
and
accessibility
and
convenience.
So
probably
not
every
parcel
within
this
conversation
will
have
take
advantage
of
that
commercial
usage.
A
Okay,
thank
you
one
last
question
or
comment
to
I'm,
hoping
that,
as
we
move
along
all
of
us
in
in
this
work
that
we
are
able
to
identify
some
of
the
local
businesses,
especially
in
historic
neighborhoods,
because,
culturally
speaking,
a
lot
of
our
businesses
are
not
always
clearly
marked,
not
a
lot
of
neon
signs.
Flashing
that
this
is
a
business.
A
That's
probably
something
we
have
to
do
through
research
with
staff
here
at
the
town
to
identify
those
types
of
businesses
and
where
people
may
be
wanting
to
take
advantage
of
doing
a
home
business
or
using
their
properties
to
do
that
part
of
commercial
and
then
see
if
we're
in
compliance
and
and
give
them
some
consultation
too
about
how
to
use
the
properties
commercially
as
well
so
I
definitely
am
very
sensitive
to
that,
and
I
certainly
have
to
acknowledge
many
of
the
people
in
the
community,
but
especially
Mr
Barnwell,
who
I
believe
that
might
be
a
picture
of
one
of
his
developments.
A
Actually,
who
has
been
a
model
in
the
community
for
land
use
and
development,
and
certainly,
as
we
continue
the
conversation
with
affordable
and
Workforce
housing.
I
was
just
in
a
conversation
with
someone
over
the
weekend
and
I
was
out
of
town
and
they
were
certainly
under
the
misconception
of
what
affordable
and
Workforce
housing
is
on.
Hilton
Head
and
the
question
was:
is
affordable,
housing
on
Hilton
Head,
a
million
dollars.
A
J
I
do
have
a
couple
of
questions
talking
about
the
rm4
I'm,
looking
at
a
couple,
little
pictures
that
you
have
up
here
and
I
understand
we're
talking
about
mid
Island
and
I
kind
of
want
to
go
back
to
have
you
looked
at
any
of
the
neighborhoods
and
I
guess
as
a
case
study,
because
as
I
look
up
there,
a
lot
of
the
neighborhoods,
don't
look
like.
What's
there
now
and
then
that's
a
lot
of
the
questions
of
the
people
in
the
community,
whereas
modulars
or
mobile
homes
in.
K
J
The
communities
are
already
there,
so
how
does
this
six
to
eight
Parcels,
regardless
of
the
parcel
size
and
or
the
businesses,
fit
into
that
I
like
to
see
more
of
a
mixture,
because
that's
a
big
concern
exactly
what's
in
our
neighborhoods
now
and
what
we
can
do
with
the
property
there?
J
Yes,
this
is
upcoming
as
to
what
we're
thinking
to
do
with
the
new
plans,
but
also
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
like
to
take
advantage
of
this
situation
with
what
they
have
a
home
is
a
home
whether
it
looks
like
what's
there
or
what
we
live
in.
So
I
would
like
to
say
that
so
any
feedback
on
that
yeah.
D
I
think
you're
exactly
right,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
certainly
need
to
address
is
what
we
call
naturally
affordable
housing
that
already
exists.
We
want
to
protect
that.
So
you
know:
what's
there
today,
that's
affordable,
that
people
are
living
in,
that
is
a
home
I
think
it's
absolutely
correct
to
acknowledge.
So
that's
a
pretty
good
point.
J
Okay
and
the
other
thing
I
kind
of
like
to
piggyback
on
was
yes.
I
saw
that
there
was
a
photo
up
there
of
Mr
barnwell's
who,
when
we're
talking
about
affordable
housing
and
Workforce,
he
that's
not
the
only
one.
He
has
that's
been
great
to
the
community,
so
I'm
I
also
I.
Also
sometime
in
conversation,
wonder
why
is
this
conversation
so
hard
when
it's
been
done?
Yeah,
it's
being
done.
D
J
Right
I
took
advantage
of
living
in
one
of
his
units,
so
I
know
it
works
and
that
kind
of
brings
up
conversation,
because,
when
they're
from
where
I
work
and
I've
had
a
conversation
about
the
upcoming
units
that
are
in
the
Stony
area
and
the
case
study
that
they
want
to
do,
comparing
it
to
like
the
workforce
like
I'm.
Just
still
like
Mr
Lavon
said
you
know
the
cost
and
who
does
it
fit?.
D
Yep
yeah
I
think
I.
Think
that's
a
critical
part
of
the
conversation
is
what
is
affordable
housing
I'd
say:
what's
you
know,
I
think
really
important
to
take
away
from
from
this
work
is
when
we
ask
the
open
question
again:
we're
not
giving
people
a
b,
a
b
c
d
e
choose
one
people
brought
up
Workforce
housing
again.
We
need
a
common
definition
for
these
phrases,
but
the
people
chose
that
of
their
own
volition.
You
know
we
didn't
give
that
as
a
choice.
D
A
And
good
okay:
did
we
have
an
opportunity
to
take
questions
from
the
public
all
right?
If
there's
anyone
in
the
public,
that
would
have
a
question
or
comment
for
Mr
Barnwell.
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
A
D
Yeah
embedded
in
all
these
recommendations
is
improvements
to
infrastructure,
as
as
he's
as
he's
noted
stormwater,
you
know
being
key
among
those.
So
we
have
a
recommendation
that
infrastructure
be
upgraded
and
that
that
include
that
would
include.
You
know,
storm
water,
it
would
include,
you
know,
streets
and
other
other
missing
pieces
that
that
aren't
there
today.
So
that's
that's!
A
recommendation
of
the
plan.
H
Hi
everyone
Andre
White
here,
Andre
Wade
landowner
in
Mitchellville
and
also
grassland
I,
also
represent
my
family's
trust
in
a
state
and
I.
Don't
really
have
questions.
I
have
comments
of
of
things
that
I
took
notes
on
that
is
omitted
and
should
be
looked
at
and
included
so
first
shiny,
echoing
your
comments,
like
whatever
type
of
code,
should
have
flexibility
for
modular
and
mobile
homes
because
they
come
in
different
sizes,
they're
pre-made,
and
they
do
not.
You
cannot
build
a
building
to
that.
H
So,
let's
make
sure
that
that
is
a
part
of
of
the
conversation
and
the
rules.
I
know
that
a
lot
of
landowners
struggle
with
getting
mobile
homes
permitted
here
because
of
the
the
shapes
and
the
sizes
and
the
buffers
and
setbacks.
The
second
thing
I
have
it's
parking.
I
know
that
they
said
parking
is
forthcoming,
but
parking
is
very
onerous
when
it
comes
to
commercial
and
residential
right.
So
a
single
family
home
has
less
parking
restrictions
than
multi-family,
because
multi-family
is
based
on
bedrooms
so
in
commercials
based
on
square
footage.
H
So,
let's,
let's
not
you,
know
kind
of
while
we're
talking
about
a
density
of
six
units
to
10
units
per
acre,
let's
actually
try
to
hone
in
on
what
parking
requirements
are
going
to
be
there
and
not.
Let's,
let's
not
kick
that
down
that
down
the
road
because
you
will
create
you
know
zoning
and
Parcels,
where
you
can't
build
commercial
and
residential
together.
Because
of
that,
so
that's
one
thing
we
should
we
should.
H
We
should
check
in
the
third
thing
I
have
here
is
buffer
and
setbacks
again,
not
something
we
should
put
down
punt
down
the
road
and
we
should
not
just
look
at
the
sort
of
the
50
reductions.
That's
in
the
code.
Now,
let's
look
at
like
okay,
it's
five
feet.
It's
10
feet!
It's!
You
know
15
feet
off
property
line,
it's
not
this
sort
of
50
reduction
and
it's
also
that's
going
to
be
very
important
with
commercial
because
commercial,
maybe
we
want
to
build
closer
to
the
street.
H
These
bike
Pathways,
as
you
see
during
the
summer,
there's
a
lot
of
people
coming
through
our
neighborhoods
talk
about
walkability
and
connectivity.
Let's
not
have
commercial
buildings
where
it's
50
feet
away
from
from
the
property
line
or
from
the
street
that
doesn't
make
any
sense.
In
my
opinion,
another
thing,
I
thought
of
or
I
heard,
I
didn't
hear
anything
about
giving
churches.
Flexibility
for
for
mixed
uses
on
Church
property
churches
should
also
be
they
own
significant
land
Holdings
and
should
also
be
able
to
economically
benefit
from
mixing
of
uses
on
their
property.
H
Just
let's
think
about
that
asset
and
the
use
of
that
during
the
week,
not
just
on
Sundays
and
evenings,
and
the
last
thing
is
on
the
from
an
affordable
housing
standpoint.
The
bonus
density
is
currently
written
is
my
understanding.
Is
that
it's
for
larger
Parcels,
so,
let's
even
a
smaller
parcel,
where
they
could
benefit
from
one
extra
unit
of
bonus
density
for
affordable
housing.
Let's
make
sure
that
the
affordable
housing
bonus
density
is
for
smaller
Parcels
as
well.
That's
it
thanks
great.
M
Afternoon,
Taiwan
Scott
I
appreciate
all
the
efforts
that's
going
forward.
Of
course,
economic
sustainability
is
is
one
of
my
main
concerns
in
design
standards.
I
mean
we're
talking
about
bonus,
densities
or
average
base
density,
but
I
think
we
should
take
more
consideration
into
the
standards.
That's
going
to
be
there
that's
going
to
be
applied
when
it
comes
down
to
knowing
that
we're
here
you
know
as
far
as
you're
coming
into
a
potential
development
or
a
potential
I
guess
you're,
looking
at
a
mixed-use
commercial
residential.
M
How
is
that
family
going
to
be
able
to
advertise
that
they're
there?
We
don't
want
to
just
blend
in
the
way
everything
is.
We
want
people
to
know
that
when
you
come
to
our
developments,
you're
in
a
cultural,
significant
location
in
this
cultural,
significant
area
in
your
in
your
participating
and
you're,
supporting
that
native
Island
business,
so
design
standards.
As
far
as
you
know,
what's
going
to
be
allowed
to
be
there,
how
we
advertise
that
we're
there
and
just
having
our
presence
more
on
on
the
Forefront
and
I
appreciate
it.
N
Good
evening,
thank
you
all
so
very
much
for
what
you're
doing
everything
to
work
and
some
of
us
work
a
little
bit
harder
than
some,
but
anyway,
I'm
Louise,
Miller,
Cohen,
I
I
have
a
question
and
a
lot
of
times
when
I
have
a
question.
That's
not
clear.
I
hit
the
leave
where
I
can
get
some
information
and
we
wonder
as
I
travel
home
and
still
don't
have
the
answer.
But
my
question
is,
of
course
like
Sean.
N
They
said
we
have
what
we
have
we're
at
this
mobile
home
or
whatever,
but
now
we
have,
some
people
have
single
and
some
have
doubled.
Now,
when
we
talk
about
the
six
to
eight
units
on
an
acre
that
includes
both
whether
you
have
a
single
or
a
double
unit
on
that
property,
I
just
won't
need
some
clarity
on
that.
N
Okay.
So
that's
my
question
all
right,
so
I
just
thank
you
for
for
the
answer
to
help
me
to
know
when
I
leave
home
because
see
when
we're
at
these
meetings.
We
are
here
for
ourselves
and
for
our
neighbors
and
our
families
who
can't
come
okay.
So
that's
why
I
just
need
to
have
some
some
clear
information
to
take
back
to
the
community.
So
thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
you
for
the
question
and
I
I
agree.
We
can't
you
know
re-emphasize
that
enough.
So
if
that
a
staff
question
or
consultant.
F
Afternoon,
I'll
try
to
feel
that
you
know
each
residential
unit
counts
as
counts
as
one,
and
so,
if
you
have
I'm
trying
to
if
we're
talking
about
mobile
homes,
are
we
talking
about
single
mobile
homes
versus
double
wide
mobile
homes?
Each
one
of
those
account
is
one
if
it's
a
unit
that
it's
like
a
duplex
which
has
two
two
units,
but
it's
you
know
kind
of
two
sides
of
one
larger
structure.
Each
one
of
those
units
counts
as
one
so
a
sort
of
a
two
family
dwelling
is
two
dwellings.
K
Hi
hi,
my
name
is
Alice
Stewart,
Dunlap
and
I
came
in
late,
so
maybe
I
need
to
come
to
the
second
meeting
if
I
can
find
time,
but
there
was
a
lot
that
was
confusing
to
me
about
this
meeting.
I
couldn't
hear
that.
Well,
what
was
being
said
one
thing
well,
the
question
that
I
do
have
is
that
you
talked
about
the
mid
Island.
A
In
this
particular
effort
here
with
these,
but
that's
outside
the
scope
of
the
work
that
they're
doing
right
now
see.
A
K
Community
Development
Corporation,
yes,
when
or
is
it
already
online
and
you
know
when
can
we
access
that
because
it
probably
will
answer
what
I
don't
know
from
this
meeting?
Thank.
F
Yeah
sir,
we're
happy
to
try
to
answer
that
question.
You
know
right
now
we're
focusing
on
the
mid
Island
district.
There
was
an
evaluation
of
the
district,
including
the
historic
neighborhoods
within
that
District,
to
come
up
with
some
more
consistent
Land
Development
patterns
and
opportunities.
F
The
the
plan
which
is
part
of
our
strategic
plan
is
to
is
to
complete
this
district
and
then
to
identify
additional
districts
throughout
the
island
to
do
similar
work
and
then
bring
that
together
through
a
growth
framework
and
then
an
eyelid
wide
master
plan
to
provide
that
consistency
that
future
land
use
that
expectation
long
term
for
the
entire
Island.
F
Now
the
second
part
of
that
the
Town
Council
approved
in
September
I
believe
on
September
20th
to
move
forward
with
the
Community
Development
Corporation
and
again,
as
chairman
Stevens
mentioned,
the
primary
focus
initially
I
believe
will
be
in
Stony
Community,
but
application
beyond
that
will
occur
at
some
time.
F
The
approval
by
Town
Council
allows
us
to
submit
the
the
paperwork
to
officially
create
that
there'll
be
some
additional
steps
with
identifying
a
board,
an
executive
director
developing
a
budget
and
that'll
that'll
move
forward
here
over
the
next
few
months,
so
that
that's
moving
forward
and
there'll
be
some
benefits
here
in
the
near
future.
With
that
effort.
O
F
Sean
colon
again
another
great
question,
so
what
the
recommendation?
That's
included
from
the
Consultants
and
through
development
of
listening
to
the
community,
is
to
no
longer
have
that
difference
where,
if
you
have
less
than
three
acres,
it's
four
units
per
acre
and
then
three
to
five
at
six
and
then
above
five,
it
can
be
eight
is
to
create
a
more
consistent,
Land,
Development
pattern
and
opportunity
for
all
Property
Owners.
So
if
you
own
less
than
three
acres,
the
density
that's
being
recommended
is
between
six
and
eight
units.
Now
I.
F
Think
we'll
ask
Council
to
with
the
additional
input
today
and
tonight
make
a
recommendation
to
council.
That's
in
that
six
to
eight
range,
and
so,
if
you
have
a
smaller
parcel,
you'll
be
able
to
develop
at
that
six
to
eight
dwelling
units
per
acre
of
council
approves
now.
As
Andrew
and
Brian
mentioned,
it
doesn't
go
into
effect.
November
1st,
that's
blessing
from
Council
that
the
district
plan
is
supported
and
then
we'll
move
forward
to
modify
the
code
so
that
it's
legally
part
of
the
entitlements
for
the
property
but
I.
A
H
All
right,
sorry,
just
thought
of
another
thing
so
I
saw
in
there
the
the
commercial
was
considered
the
use
of
it
conditional
use
permit.
Can
we
try
to
look
at
ways
to
not
have
like?
If
you
want
to
start
a
business,
then
you
have
to
get
a
conditional
use
permit.
H
M
One
more
thing,
and
actually
it's
kind
of
piggybacking
on
what
what
Sean
mentioned
and
it's
there
should
be
consideration
with
I
mean
we're
going
to
go
to
a
six
to
eight
density.
Then
what
about
an
incentive?
If
someone
slates
some
of
those
units
for
the
workforce
housing
program,
maybe
there
should
be
an
incentive
there
that,
if,
if
they
allocate
those
units
for
that
particular
program
for
x
amount
of
years,
whatever
whatever
the
stipulation
is,
then
they
can
get
some
additional
units.
M
I
mean
there's
I
mean
we're
looking
we're
kind
of
focused
on
large
units,
but
we
got
a
lot
of
small.
You
know
lots
around
here
that
can
accommodate
and
help.
You
know
deal
with
some
of
this
Workforce
housing
issues.
It
shouldn't
just
be
the
big
guys.
That's
given
the
opportunity
here.
So
if
you
got
got
some
local,
you
know
native
Islanders,
who
have
some
land
and
they're
willing
to
set
aside
and
and
meet
that
criteria
for
a
certain
percentage
of
units
to
be
slated
for
Workforce.
M
If
it's
20
years,
30
years,
whatever
the
criteria
is,
that
gives
them
an
opportunity
to
retain
their
land
and,
and
just
it
just
really
opens
up
a
door
of
hitting
the
niche
that
we're
that
we're
leading
to
right
appreciate
it
great.
A
Thank
you
all
for
your
questions
and
for
your
comments
and
certainly
for
our
Consultants
doing
the
best
they
can,
but
that
presentation
and
I
will
once
again
remind
you
that
five
o'clock
this
afternoon
at
the
Hilton
Head
Library,
will
have
another
opportunity
to
ask
questions
and
to
give
some
input.
Okay,
all
right!
If
there's
nothing
else,
we
will
move
on
to
our
next
item,
which
is
the
Ayers
property
FEMA
disaster
recovery
and
that
is
presented
by
Melton,
Hollis
and
you're,
going
to
introduce
Mr,
Hollis
sure.
C
I
will
introduce
Mr
Hollis.
He
I
just
met
him
last
week,
he's
going
to
give
you
a
brief
presentation
on
some
of
the
changes
that
FEMA
has
made
to
designate
which
properties
are
eligible
for
FEMA
disaster
recovery.
I'm
aware
that
Mr
Hollis
has
another
engagement
and
he
will
have
to
be
really
quick
to
get
out.
D
C
P
That's
one
way
to
do
it.
This
is
the
other
way
sure.
Okay,
thank
you.
Okay,
good
afternoon,
my
name
is
Melvin.
Hollis
I
am
trying
to
retire.
This
is
my
third
retirement.
My
granddaughter
says:
I
haven't
gotten
the
hang
of
it
yet.
My
last
job
was
as
a
professor
of
Emergency
Management
at
Savannah,
State
University,
before
that
I
worked
in
Washington
and
I
was
on
the
staff
of
Craig
Fugate
when
he
was
the
administrator
of
FEMA.
P
The
point
that
I'm
going
to
try
to
make
a
point
very
quickly
and
then
back
into
some
FEMA
policies.
I'm
not
here,
to
represent
FEMA
I'm
here
to
talk
about
FEMA
in
a
very
important
policy
change
that
is
specific
to
gulligichi
and
those
who
hold
Ayers
property
on
September,
2nd
FEMA
changed
a
very
important
policy
for
those
who
have
had
storm
damage
and
who
have
suffered
from
the
agriculture
Department
who've
dealt
with
the
agriculture
Department.
P
Those
who
held
an
interest
in
what
we
call
heirs,
Ayers
property
or
who
occupied
Ayers
property,
we're
not
eligible
for
a
range
of
services
that
are
available
for
the
federal
government
and
the
reason
quite
simply
is
because
they
could
not
provide,
could
not
provide
proof
of
insurable
interest
in
the
property.
And
so
you
had
this
particular
problem.
Going
on.
When
FEMA
would
come
into
an
area,
they
would
address
the
issues
of
property
owners.
They
would
provide
them
with
support
under
two
programs
on
individual
assistants
and
public
assistance.
P
But
if
you
could
not
prove
that
you
had
insurable
interest
in
property,
you
simply
were
not
eligible
for
the
benefits
that
FEMA
provided.
I
am
here
to
tell
you
that,
as
of
September
2nd,
the
fact
that
the
policy
has
been
changed
means
that
an
individual
might
be
eligible
for
up
to
75
800
per
incident
and
I
want
to
explain
how
that
has
changed
and
why
that's
important
on
September,
2nd
FEMA
announced
this
policy
changed.
P
It
was
not
given
a
lot
of
national
attention,
but
it
just
so
happens
that
on
September
15th
I
was
in
Atlanta
with
the
regional
director
of
FEMA,
and
this
is
region.
Four
and
I
sat
with
her
and
I
said
you
know
the
Gullah
get
you
Corridor.
That
information
has
not
been
spread
and
I
think
that's
a
very
important
information.
Other
people
ought
to
to
know,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
I
think
it's
important
enough
that
you
ought
to
designate
someone
on
your
staff
to
work
directly
with
that
Community.
P
Think
sometime
in
March
he
sent
a
delegation
of
eight
or
nine
people
from
FEMA
to
meet
with
these
communities,
and
we
held
that
meeting
over
on
Saint
Helens
Island,
and
the
second
thing
that
we
did
was
we
got
in
touch
with
the
galagichi
cultural
heritage
Corridor
and
asked
them
to
publish
in
their
newsletter
than
changes
and
to
make
them
available
to
the
community.
P
But
what
I
want
to
do
is
and
I'm
a
little
hurried,
because
I
do
have
another
appointment
if
I
could
get
through
this
presentation.
I
want
to
provide,
let's
see
if
I
can
move
to.
P
A
P
The
way
one
becomes
eligible
for
assistance
from
FEMA
is
that
there
is
a
presidentially
declared
emergency
I've
just
finished
a
report
on
on
Hurricane
Ian,
coming
on
to
shore
on
in
Horry,
County
and
Georgetown
county
in
South
Carolina,
there
is
damage
there.
There
are
this
problem
of
of
debris
that
has
to
be
picked
up
in
their
homes
that
are
flooded.
P
The
problem
is
that
there's
not
enough
damage
to
have
a
presidentially
declared
disaster
so
that
there
will
be
no
support
from
FEMA
in
that
instance,
the
way
Fame
works
is
if
there
is
a
presidentially
declared
disaster,
then
FEMA
comes
in
FEMA
can't
just
come
into
a
state
as
a
matter
of
fact,
they
have
to
be
requested
by
the
governor.
The
governor
goes
to
the
regional
director
and
says:
I
have
damage
in
my
state.
The
the
damage
is
beyond
what
the
state
can
handle
and
I'm
requesting
Federal
support.
P
That
request
goes
up
to
the
goes
up
to
Washington.
It
goes
to
the
president
and
the
president
has
the
option
of
declaring
presidentially
declared
disaster
once
that
is
done,
for
three
programs
go
into
effect.
One
is
called
Public
Assistance,
one
is
called
individual
assistance
and
one
is
called
mitigation,
Public
Assistance
under
the
under
the
act
that
is
applicable.
P
In
this
case,
the
federal
government
will
provide
75
to
100
percent
of
the
cost
of
recovery,
where
that
ranges
is
up
to
the
president,
and
it
also
has
to
do
with
how
whether
or
not
you're
a
good
friend
of
the
president
or
not,
you
can
get
anywhere
from
75
percent
to
100
percent.
The
important
thing,
and
what
I
want
to
talk
to
you
about
today,
is
what
we
call
the
individual
assistance
program.
Public
Assistance
goes
to
governmental
units,
they
come
in.
P
They
talk
about
destruction
of
schools,
they
talk
about
the
roads,
they
talk
about
the
parks
and
so
forth,
and
they're
eligible
for
reimbursement
for
Recovery
in
the
recovery
phase,
but
on
the
individual
assistance.
You
are
talking
about
these
two
things:
financial
assistance
to
the
individual
and
financial
and
direct
housing
assist
distance
so
that
you
see
under
the
financial
housing
assistance,
an
individual
is
eligible
for
rental
assistance.
What
I
mean
by
that
is,
if
you
have
to
leave
the
house,
and
you
have
to
stay
someplace
else,
you
have
to
rent
someplace
else.
P
Fema
will
pay
100
of
that
lodging
expenses,
home,
repair,
home
or
repair
assistance
that
is
paid
for
after
you
apply
to
FEMA
you're
establish
an
account.
The
money
is
wired
to
your
account
or
in
some
cases,
to
the
landlord
to
direct
housing.
Assistance
is
if
there
is
damage
to
the
homestead,
and
the
important
thing
to
understand
about
that
is.
You
can
move
into
another
place
for
get
a
lease
or
you
bring
in
transportable
housing
onto
your
space
to
live
in.
While
your
house
is
being
repaired,
a
FEMA
will
provide
the
trailer.
P
The
other
thing
is,
if
you
have
a
lease
someplace
else
during
the
time
that
the
house
is
being
that
the
house
is
being
repaired.
Who
is
eligible
for
this?
For
this
assistance?
You
have
to
be
an
American
citizen
or
you
have
to
live
with
someone
who
is
the
interesting
thing
about
that
is
if
you've
moved
to
the
country
recently
and
your
child
has
been
born
in
the
United
States.
That
child
is
a
citizen
and
that
child
is
entitled
to
all
of
the
benefits
as
they
come
with
being
an
American
citizen.
P
So
you
often
have
people
who
have
children,
but
who
can
who
are
eligible
for
all
of
the
benefits,
because
the
child
is
a
citizen
of
the
United
States.
This
is
the
tricky
part.
I
wanted
to
talk
to
you
about
for
a
minute.
You
must
pass
FEMA's
identity
and
occupancy
verification.
Here
my
daughter
has
been
working
for
FEMA
for
18
years.
I
worked
for
him
for
five
years.
P
My
nephew's
been
working
for
for
eight
years,
so
I'm
pretty
pretty
much
up
to
date
on
what's
going
on,
I
had
my
daily
conversation
with
her
this
morning,
while
we
went
over
the
family
emergencies,
we'll
wrap
those
up
sometime
in
the
afternoon,
but
I
also
get
a
sense
of
what's
going
on
with
FEMA.
When
you
call
when
you,
there
are
three
ways
to
register
for
these
programs,
one
of
them
is
online,
the
other
is
by
phone.
P
The
other
is
if
there
is
an
economic
or
Emergency
Operations,
Center
close
by
you
can
go
and
register
on
purpose.
In
each
case,
the
information
is
put
into
a
computer
when
that
information
goes
into
a
computer.
Your
name
your
age
and
your
Social
Security
number
must
line
up
if
they
do
not
line
up,
you're
kicked
out
and
you
have
to
start
all
over
again.
P
P
One
of
the
things
that
gets
people
kicked
out
of
this
system
often
is
the
number
of
people
who
who
end
up
saying
well,
I,
you
know
my
I
live
in
the
house,
I
lost
my
television,
I
lost
my
furniture
and
three
people
go
down
and
give
the
same
location
those
three
locations
be
caught
in
the
FEMA
registration
system.
The
system
will
be
kicked
out,
you're
going
to
have
to
start
all
over
again.
The
other
things
that
happen
is
somebody
down
the
street
I
know
it's.
P
Your
social
security,
number
and
I
have
had
many
occasions
where
you
go
in
and
register,
and
we
find
out
that
that
name
and
that
address
has
already
been
registered.
The
other
things
that
you
will
find,
particularly
within
communities
that
are
low-income
communities
and
or
communities
like
Gala
and
gichi
communities,
is
that
the
address
does
not
line
up.
P
You
may
have
one
address
on
your
on
your
driver's
license
because
you
lived
there
three
or
four
years
ago,
you're
in
another
place
now
and
you're
talking
about
this
is
the
damage,
but
nothing
in
the
in
the
nothing
in
public
records
show
that
you've
ever
lived
at
this
place,
and
so
you're
going
to
have
to
go
back
into
the
system
and
clear
up
why
the
national
information
system
is
sure
you
had
one
address
and
you're
claiming
damage
for
another
address.
You
have
to
go
in
clean.
That
up.
P
I
mentioned
that
because
the
Gullah
Geechee
Community
not
having
been
eligible
for
these
benefits,
has
lost
touch
with
the
agency
and
their
records
may
be
older.
They
may
have
no
records
at
all,
and
so
going
through.
This
application
process
may
be
a
brand
new
process
that
people
have
to
become
familiar
with.
P
Large
portions
of
the
community
may
or
may
not
be
familiar
or
may
not
be
conversant
with
or
comfortable
with
the
computer
systems,
and
may
ask
someone
down
the
street
to
do
the
registration
for
them,
and
I
will
tell
you
from
my
own
experience
that
often
leads
to
a
number
of
problems.
I've
had
people
call
me
or
I've
got
been
on
the
phone
with
people
and
we're
looking
over
their
account.
P
Even
if
it
was
your
grandson
or
your
uncle
or
your
child
you'd
be
surprised
how
many
times
those
folks
you've
asked
to
help
you
with
this
registration
process
take
advantage
of
that
process.
These
are
the
three
ways
to
apply
for
the
the
assistance
that
we've
talked
about.
The
thing
to
understand
about
these
benefits
that
I'm
talking
about
is
that
FEMA
pays
for
uninsured
damage.
P
If
you
have
a,
if
you
have
an
insurance
policy
on
your
home,
then
when
you
go
to
FEMA,
the
thing
that
FEMA
wants
to
see
is
the
insurance
policy
they're
not
going
to
duplicate
the
benefits
right.
The
the
money
that's
available
is
to
pay
for
uninsured
damage
to
you
or
your
family,
or
things
that
are
not
covered
by
the
insurance
policy
if
you're,
underinsured
or
uninsured,
otherwise,
you're
going
to
rely
mostly
on
their
insurance.
P
So
the
funding
is
available
to
make
sure
you
are
safe,
your
home
is
safe.
The
other
thing
to
understand
is
that
the
federal
policy
is
not
to
put
you
back
in
the
position
you
were
in
before
it
is
to
get
you
back
on
your
feet.
I,
don't
know
how
many
times
when
I
handle
phones,
people
would
tell
me
well
I
had
a
50
inch
television
and
you,
you
know
I'm
going
to
spend
most
of
my
money
put
in
the
house,
but
putting
the
family
back
in
the
house.
P
How
am
I
going
to
get
my
television
and
my
answer
is
I,
don't
know,
I
didn't
buy
the
television
and
we're
not
responsible
for
the
television,
but
we're
responsible
for
is
getting
you
and
your
family
into
safe
housing
and
to
help
you
recover,
but
it
is
not
famous
job.
It's
not
the
federal
government's
intention
to
replace
all
the
things
that
you've
lost.
Hopefully
you
were
insured
and
insurance
can
handle
that
if
you're
underinsured,
we
hope
the
37
800
that
we're
giving
you
is
direct
assistance
can
get
you
back
on
your
feet
again.
P
I'm
going
through
this
fairly
quickly.
One
of
the
things
that
I
would
anticipate
for
community
that
has
not
interacted
with
FEMA
much
is
that
there
will
be
a
lot
of
applications
kicked
out
because
people
are
not
familiar
with
the
application
process
and
their
issues
that
arise
like
the
ones
that
I'm
talking
about,
and
so
the
issue
that
I
want
to
talk
to
you
about
now
is
how
they
do
with
that
rejection
letter.
If
you
are
not
familiar
with
this
process,
what
I
would
expect
to
see
is
a
lot
of
rejection
letters
in
this
first
round.
P
The
thing
that
I
want
to
say
to
you
is
the
rejection
letter
is
not
the
end
of
the
process.
A
lot
of
people
get
the
rejection
letter
and
has
been
historically
in
the
past.
You
just
got
a
rejection
letter
and
it
didn't
say
why
you're
rejected
so
people
put
it
in
the
put
it
in
the
trash
can
and
walk
away
from
the
process.
That
is
not
the
end
of
it.
There
may
be
any
number
of
reasons
that
you
were
rejected.
Some
of
them
I
have
just
talked
about
your
ID
did
not
line
up
initially.
P
There
may
have
been
a
mistake
of
the
placement
of
one
number
in
your
social
security
number
somebody
down
the
street
has
registered,
for
you
got
the
money
and
left
out.
Is
there
any
number
of
issues?
What
I
am
here
to
encourage
is
when
you
get
the
rejection
letter
at
this
point,
re-engage
get
back
and
say
what
is
it
that's
wrong
and
see
if
I
can
fill
it
out?
P
One
of
the
one
of
the
most
common
issues
is:
we
could
not
verify
your
relationship
to
the
property
that
you're
talking
about,
particularly
if
your
relationship
to
the
property
is
Ayers
property
right
and
the
most
important
thing.
The
most
important
thing
to
say
to
you
now
and
I'll
see
if
I
can
find
it
very
quickly
is
that
FEMA
now
accepts.
P
Let
me
go
to
my
own
sheets
and
what
I
the
most
important
point
to
make
today.
Is
that
no
longer
are
you
required
to
provide
just
a
mortgage
or
will
to
show
ownership
or
interest
in
a
property?
We
can
now
certify
your
occupancy
or
your
ownership
interest
in
a
much
simplified
process.
That's
the
important
of
the
September,
2nd
change.
We
will
now
home
ownership,
be
verified
with
the
deed
of
official
record
mortgage
documentation,
but
now
structural
Insurance
documentation,
if
you
have
insurance
on
the
place
property
tax
receipts.
Now
this
is
a
big
deal.
P
If
you've
lived
there
now,
you've
assumed
ownership,
or
rather
responsibility
for
the
place
that
you've
been
paying
the
taxes.
If
you
bring
in
the
tax
documents,
okay,
that
that
would
be
sufficient,
a
land
installment
contract,
a
quick
claim
deed
if
you're,
bringing
in
the
deed
of
ownership
or
if
you're,
asserting
ownership-
and
someone
is
passed
it
on
to
you,
then
you
have
to
bring
in
the
death
certificate
to
verify
that
the
person
who
passed
that
that
interest
on
you
has
indeed
passed
on,
but
more
and
more
important
than
that.
P
You
may
verify
your
occupancy
with
a
utility
bill:
okay,
with
a
phone,
cable
or
medical
bill
with
employees,
pay,
stub
or
similar
documents,
a
lease
rent
receipts,
identification
in
cards,
public
officials,
social,
social
service
organizations,
Local,
School,
Mobile,
Home
letters
to
you
with
your
address
on
it.
This
is
a
huge
increase.
P
We
think
and
providing
you
with
the
opportunity
to
participate
in
the
program,
certify
your
interest
in
the
program,
and
that
is
probably
the
most
important
thing
I
can
say
to
you
today
that
we
no
longer
are
required
to
bring
just
a
deed
or
mortgage
document
to
be
eligible
for
the
for
these
programs.
Let
me
just
make
sure
I've
done
what
I
need
to
do.
The
change
in
FEMA
policy
on
documentation,
we've
done
that
the
assistance
offered
I've
shown
you
at
least
the
I've
shown
you
at
least
the
amount.
P
That
is
the
amount
that
you're
eligible
for
and
I've
also
shown
you
the
kinds
of
areas.
What
the
benefits
are.
We've
talked
about,
how
to
apply
for
the
benefits,
how
to
deal
with
the
rejection
letters
I
just
want
to
take
a
fast
shot
at
the
national
flood
insurance
program.
P
Hurricanes
and
fires
are
not
the
only
National
our
problems,
flooding
is
a
problem
and
all
of
the
flooding
is
not
as
a
result
of
hurricanes.
Some
of
it
is
a
result
of
being
in
a
flood
zone,
and
I
want
to
talk
to
you
about
a
difficulty
that
you
have
with
the
flood
zone.
If
you
inherited
property,
it
normally
means
you
don't
have
to
go
out
and
buy
flood
insurance.
P
If
you're
buying
a
new
home
and
you're
buying
it
through
a
federally
insured
institution,
you
will
be
required
to
buy
the
flood
insurance
if
you're
in
a
flood
flood
plain
by
the
way.
At
least
20
percent
of
the
claims
are
handled
on
people
who
live
outside
of
floodplains,
but
there's
an
unusual
unusual,
rising
of
the
water
and
they
end
up
having
flood
damage.
Understand
that,
whatever
insurance
you
have
on
your
home,
it
does
not
apply
to
water
damage
unless
that
water
damage
it
comes
from
inside
the
house.
P
If
that
water
damage
comes
from
outside
of
the
house,
it
has
to
be
covered
by
flood
insurance,
okay
and
in
some
places
like
this,
where
you're
exposed
to
floods
on
a
regular
basis,
you
cannot
find
that
insurance
as
a
private
entity.
You
need
to
go
to
the
National
flood
insurance
program,
which
is
a
federal
program.
If
you
were
going
to
buy
a
house-
and
you
were
close
to
or
in
the
flood
plain
the
people
who
were
selling
you,
the
house
would
advise
you.
P
That's
very
important
to
know
that
flood
insurance,
which
is
a
federal
program,
covers
up
to
250
thousand
dollars
for
damage
to
the
unit
and
up
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
property
inside
of
the
of
the
unit.
It
is
fairly
cheap
because
it
is
a
federal
program,
but
you
need
to
know
that
that
is
a
program
that
is
available
to
you.
Let
me
see
if
there's
anything
else
in
my
nose.
Yes,
FEMA
has
expanded
its
coverage
so
that
there
are
things
covered
now
that
have
not
been
covered
in
the
past.
P
Let
me
see
if
I
have
it
here
under
the
what
we
call
the
other
needs
program.
So
let
me
see
if
I
can
find
the
other
needs
program.
They
are
expenses
covered
that
have
not
been
covered
in
the
past
under
the
other
needs
programs,
personal
property,
child
care,
medical
and
dental
care,
funeral
expenses,
Transportation,
Moving
and
Storage
critical.
P
I
think
I
have
just
about
covered
the
items
that
need
to
be
covered
under
this,
but
if
I
did,
if
I
have
not
made
any
point
other
than
this,
that
as
of
September
2nd,
if
you
have
an
interest
in
or
you
occupy
what
is
called
Ayers
property,
you
no
longer
have
to
have
the
the
deed
or
the
more.
We
should
be
eligible
for
federal
support,
and
so
I've
listed
the
documents
that
you
can't
you
can
provide
for
that
assistance.
P
I
think
that's
important
and
the
other
thing
is
because
of
confusion
about
how
one
has
been
eligible
in
the
past.
There
may
be
some
confusion
in
the
initial
application
when
you
get
that
rejection
letter,
which
I
expect
a
lot
of
people
will
get
because
they're
not
used
to
that
process
and
have
not
gone
through
it
in
the
past.
Do
not
take
that
as
the
final
decision
find
out
why
you
got
the
rejection
letter.
P
It
may
be
as
simple
as
the
wrong
address,
or
you
have
to
explain
why
the
address
that
pops
up
in
the
National
system
is
different
than
the
one
you
have
provided,
and
particularly
if
you
live
in
multi-generational
families,
okay,
which
is
not
uncomfortable,
you
got
the
grandchild.
You
got
the
you
guys.
The
mother
and
the
father
got
the
grandparents
all
in
the
house
is
not
clear
who
owns
the
house,
it's
not
clear!
Who
owns
the
property?
P
There's
one
application,
there's
not
going
to
be
threes,
there's
not
going
to
be
seven
or
if
you
have
moved
from
your
own
house
to
stay
in
that
house,
while
repairs
are
being
made
and
you
both
apply
with
the
same
address.
You
can
understand
why
the
system
kicks
you
out
so
and-
and
you
can
also
understand
why
your
mail
is
going
to
a
place
where
you
no
longer
locate
it,
and
you
don't
even
know
what
the
correspondence
is
going
on.
So
those
are
things
you
have
to
be
careful
about.
P
Those
are
things
that
my
daughter
talked
to
me
about
this
morning
about
how
people
are
giving
her
a
hard
time,
because
the
address
that
pops
up
in
the
National
system
is
not
what
they're
showing
for
people
who
move
around
a
lot.
That's
something
to
be
to
be
careful
about
so
I
have
I.
Think
I've
made
the
basic
points
that
I
needed
to
make.
If
I
leave
early,
it
is
not
because
I'm
not
interested,
but
because
there's
a
judge
waiting
to
see
me
over
in
Beaufort
and
they
tend
not
to
take
it
too
easily.
A
Be
glad
just
just
one
quick
question
and
I
know
your
time
as
a
probably
up.
He
said
that
FEMA
had
to
you
had
reached
out,
or
we
have
Advocates
here
in
the
town
now.
P
What
we
did
as
I
don't
know
if
you
attended
the
meeting
that
we
had
in
March
on
Saint
Helena's
Island,
we
invited
local
government
officials
and
I
think
we
had
Sherry
I'm,
not
sure
Sherry.
She
was
flood
management.
P
A
In
case,
if
you
have
to
leave
we'll
know
how
to
answer
questions
with
someone
here
at
the
town,
we
have
someone
here
on
staff.
A
You
did
a
very
good
job
and
we
know
you
are
running
tight
on
your
time.
Thank
you
for
for
the
information
if
in
this
season
of
hurricanes
and
storms-
and
it
can
happen,
as
you
said
anytime,.
P
Is
moving
across
the
Central
America
right
now,
the
hurricane
season
is
not
over.
The
waters
are
warmer
now
than
they
have
been
in
the
past
and
I.
Don't
expect
the
season
to
be
over
until
well
in
the
middle
of
November,
I
checked
with
National
Hurricane
I
have
a
I
have
to
pull
it
up
on
my
screen
every
day,
but
there's
nothing
in
danger
right
now,
so
it'll
be
at
least
two
weeks
before
you
have
to
start
running.
If,
if
anything
is
coming,
this
way
all
right.
Okay,.
A
A
All
right,
thank
you
for
that
information.
It
is
certainly
very
relevant
to
a
lot
of
the
work
that
we're
doing
here
and
cultural
preservation
just
for
the
Total
Community
as
well.
The
next
item
we
have
I'm
sorry,
yes,
sir
one.
P
Last
concept
I
wanted
to
leave
with
you.
This
group
should
think
in
terms
of
the
wording
in
the
federal
legislation
is
cultural
resources
and
historic
neighborhoods.
There
are
additional
resources
available
through
a
range
of
federal
issues
such
to
do
mitigation.
That
is
to
look
at
whether
or
not
cultural
resources
or
historic
areas
are
subject
to
or
vulnerable
to
natural
disasters,
and
there
are
funds
available
and
a
category.
P
So
I
would
encourage
you
to
to
to
to
to
look
at
this
issue
of
of
the
protections
that
are
available
under
the
National
Historic
nhas
I,
remember,
National,
Historic
areas,
act
and,
and
and
and
look
at
the
fact
that
you
are
these
neighborhoods
are
considered
cultural
resources
that
are
eligible
for
additional
funds
for
preservation
and
mitigation
and
under
this
mitigation,
what
we're
talking
about
is
you
take
a
look
at
what
has
happened
in
in
a
disaster
and
then
figure
out?
P
What
steps
can
be
taken
to
make
sure
those
things
don't
happen
again
or
you
can
mitigate
damage
or
even
come
in
with
a
study
that
shows
that
you're,
vulnerable
to
flooding
or
other
disasters
and
federal
funds
are
available
specifically
for
historic
areas
and
areas
that
are
considered
cultural
resources.
So
I
think
that's
relevant
great
great.
A
Okay,
I'm
gonna,
move
to
the
next
item,
which
is
update
on
the
historic
District's
overlay,
District.
C
Just
to
summarize
of
the
recommendations,
it
was
recommended
that
for
the
rm4
properties
within
those
five
neighborhoods
that
the
density
would
be
six
to
eight
and
then
there
would
be
neighborhood
commercial
that
would
be
applied
within
those
neighborhoods
and
that
we
would
calibrate
some
of
the
development
form
standards
within
the
neighborhoods
to
accommodate
those
uses.
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
wasn't
mentioned
that
that
has
been
included
in
some
of
the
recommendations
was
that
we
were
going
to
look.
The
the
district
plan
looks
to
recommend
a
small
house
series
for
that
incremental
infill.
C
That
I
think
Miss
green
was
talking
about
and
those
would
be.
We
would
develop
some
pre-approved
small
homes
that
could
be
used
for
development
in
these
areas.
Any
questions
on
this
particular
item.
G
Missy
the
it
was
mentioned
in
earlier
presentation
that
they
recommended
code
changes
versus
overlays,
correct
District,
that's
correct!
How
does
the
town
feel
about
that.
C
We're
supportive
of
moving
toward
base
zoning
changes
for
the
reasons
that
they
had
outlined.
It's
a
lot
more
predictable,
both
from
somebody
who
administers
the
Land,
Management,
ordinance
and
Zoning,
as
well
as
as
residents
and
and
homeowners.
Here,
it's
a
clearer
line
of
what
rules
apply
when
it's
just
in
the
chapter,
for
whatever
zoning
District
you're
in
then
going
to
a
separate
section
of
overlay.
A
You
know
yeah,
it
is
my
understanding
that
we
are
kind
of
taking
a
look
at
what
we
call
overlay.
So
I
don't
want
us
to
get
too
hung
up
on
that
word,
but
there
are
some
ways
that
we
can
make.
Maybe
accomplish
the
same
thing
or
perhaps
even
better
than
what
we
would
call
traditionally
an
overlay
District.
A
Okay,
great.
The
next
item
we
have
is
the
gala
resource
page.
C
Okay,
so
we
talked
about
this
as
one
of
the
recommendations
in
our
critical
path
that
we
would
look
at
changes
to
some
of
the
resources
that
we
have
listed
on
our
website
that
relate
to
the
recommendations
within
the
preservation
report.
C
Currently
we
have
resources
listed
in
the
areas
of
Economic
and
Business,
Ayers
property,
land
use
and
cultural
resources,
and
we
were
looking
at
reorganizing
those
into
what
we
were
calling
a
Gullah
resource
center
and
to
format
them
more
in
a
communicative
way,
such
as
using
like
a
web
Banner
doing
a
storyboard
or
a
story
map
to
illustrate
those
resources
established
videos
or
how
to's
to
display
the
information
in
a
more
interactive
way,
as
well
as
adding
some
of
the
education
tools
and
and
programs
that
we're
already
giving
and
to
have
them
as
a
place
to
deposit
them
online,
where
they
can
be
accessed.
C
C
Just
so,
you
can
kind
of
see
what
that
looks
like,
but
but
when
we're
talking
about,
let
me
see
if
it'll
open
when
we're
talking
about
this
color
Resource
Center,
we're
talking
about
this
kind
of
interactive
page
that
we
would
go
to
and
it's
not
showing
you
it's
showing
me
on
what
I'm
looking
at,
but
it's
not
displaying
on
the
screen
there.
So
so
we
can
look
at
those
sites
or
I
can
email
you
those
sites
to
look
at
after
the
meeting.
C
G
G
J
C
Well,
we
have
a
lot
of
information
on
the
page.
Already
it's
just
not
displayed
in
an
interactive
format,
so
we
would
have
the
same
type
of
content.
We
would
display
it
in
a
more
interactive
format,
as
well
as
hopefully
be
able
to
offer
more
explanation
of
what
these
resources
are
and
how
they
can
be
applied
and
then
have
some
more
educational,
material
and
and
some
of
our
educational
programs
available
like
a
PowerPoint.
If
you
will,
we
could
have
a
place
for
Education
components
online.
That's
available
all
the
time.
A
So
the
the
program
that
we
just
approved
would
also
be
on
a
page
like.
C
We
could
have
right
now.
We
don't
have
that
on
the
economic
and
Community
Resource
page,
but
we
do
have
a
map
of
the
historic
neighborhoods
on
it's
within
the
goligichi
land
and
cultural
preservation
project
page.
This
is
just
the
resource
center
information
that
we're
talking
about
reformatting.
We
could
certainly
look
at
reformatting
all
of
the
galagichi
information,
including
where
these
neighborhoods
are,
and
some
of
the
zoning
changes
that
we're
we're
talking
about
that
are
recommended,
but
we
could
fold
some
of
that
into
this
Resource
page
or
or
look
at
broadening.
C
It
is
yeah
yeah,
it's
available
when
you
go
to
major
initiatives
and
then
galagichi
land
and
cultural
resources.
There
is
a
lot
of
information.
Both
the
preservation
project
report,
information
about
the
task
force,
as
well
as
a
link
to
these
economic
and
Community
Resources,
are
up
on
our
website
right
now,.
A
A
Okay,
great
thank
you
for
that.
Missy
I
think
we're
heading
in
the
right
direction.
As
you
asked
earlier.
The
next
item
I
have
is
our
proposed
2023
meeting
schedule
I
believe
we're
going
to
have
to
put
that
on
hold,
because
now
we
do
not
have
a
quorum
once
again,
so
I
think
it'd
be
okay.
If
we
discuss
that
at
our
next
meeting,
that
brings
us
to
the
staff
report,
Delinquent
Tax
list,
update
and
design
studio
and
some
other
items
as
well.
Yep
yeah.
C
Is
the
rest
of
them?
Are
them
or
I'll
stay
up
here,
of
course,
last
on
the
third
of
this
month
with
the
Delinquent
Tax
list?
At
that
time
there
were
three
properties
left
on
the
list.
The
Delinquent
Tax
sale
was
on
the
fourth
and
However.
C
If
those
properties
were
sold
at
the
auction
they're
in
a
status
called
Redemption
and
property
property
owners
have
a
year
and
a
day
to
pay
those
taxes
and
the
associated
fees
to
recover
the
property,
and
as
of
last
year
for
2021,
there
were
no
properties
on
that
Redemption
list.
I
have
not
gotten
an
update
from
the
county,
yet
to
I,
don't
know
if
there
are
any
properties
yet
that
were
sold
at
the
auction.
So
that's
the
update
I
have
on
that
and.
A
And
you
can
continue
with
the
historic
neighborhood
Design
Studio
report
yep.
C
A
H
I
know
there's
been
talk
about
making
some
changes
to
the
the
family
subdivisions
and
especially
in
regard
to
Landscaping
landscape
buffers
and
all
those
requirements.
Any
updates
on
that.
C
We
have
been
talking
about
changes
to
our
family
compound
and
family
subdivision
regulations,
including
the
Landscaping
requirements
as
part
of
both
of
those
application
types,
and
that
is
included
in
one
of
our
critical
paths
for
implementation
of
those
activities,
and
some
of
those
observations
were
made
during
some
Design
Studios,
with
with
families
that
are
seeking
those
application
Services
through
either
design
or
I'm.
Sorry,
family
compound
or
family
subdivision.
And
so
we
will
be
working
on
future
LMO
amendments
to
accommodate
that.
A
Okay
and
I
should
back
up
also
and
recognize
some
of
the
efforts
of
some
of
our
citizens
in
the
community
with
identifying
challenges
of
people
on
the
Delinquent
Tax
list.
I
think
that
we've
done
a
better
job
from
year
to
year,
and
certainly
with
the
work
of
low
country,
Gala
and
some
other
organizations
in
the
county,
we've
been
able
to
kind
of
monitor
that
and
not
just
offer
assistance
financially,
but
also
through
education.
A
So
it
can
stop
the
trend
of
having
Ayers
property
and
having
people
the
same
people
all
know
the
list
every
year
and
I
know
that
also
that
Linda
Pickett
from
the
Heritage
Library
has
been
very
working
very
closely
with
that
effort
too.
So
I
I
appreciate
those
citizens
in
the
community
who
are
helping
us
to
identify
that.
A
Okay,
let
me
see
I
think
you
can
continue
town
over
positions,
update,
sure.
C
C
There
are
quite
a
few
9-1-1
Public
Safety,
telecommunicator,
trainee,
administrative
support,
temporary
position,
assistant
community
development,
director
Chief
Building,
Inspector,
director
of
cultural
Affairs,
firefighter
EMT,
paramedic
facilities,
technician,
landscaping
and
grounds
manager,
public
space
programming
and
events
manager,
principal
planner,
Revenue,
Services,
specialist
senior,
planner,
cultural
and
historic
preservation,
stormwater
project
manager
and
transportation
engineer.
So
we've
quite
a
few
job
openings
currently
and
certainly
would
welcome
anyone's
referrals.
A
Any
questions,
okay,
all
right.
We
certainly
hope
that
we'll
continue
to
attract
folks
to
come
and
work
and
live
in
our
community,
as
we
had
mentioned
before.
A
lot
of
these
topics
are
related.
There
are
challenges
with
affordable
and
Workforce
housing
and
also
trying
to
find
the
right
people
in
the
right
position.
So
we
appreciate
that
update
home
and
safe
home
safety
and
repair
program.
Sure.
C
So
for
home
safety
and
repair,
we
are
still
looking
for
additional
contractors
to
do
the
work.
We
have
several
contractors
that
are
approved
embedded
and
we
are
anxious
to
get
underway
with
awarding
some
of
the
work
to
contractors
to
get
the
work
underway,
but
so
far
today
we've
received
80
applications
for
home
safety
and
repair,
and
we've
approved
63
of
those
applications.
C
A
Very
good:
if
there
are
no
questions,
we
can
continue
and
well.
Let
me
just
put
a
pin
right
there
for
those
of
you
in
the
room
in
our
community.
If
you
know
some
contractors,
we
are
encouraging
we're
trying
to
solicit
folks
to
sign
up
for
that
program
and
participate
with
the
town.
So
there
are
some
opportunities
for
contractors
in
the
community.
A
Okay,
all
right!
Thank
you,
missy.
That
was
the
sewer
update
as
well,
very
good.
Anyone
have
any
questions
from
the
public
on
any
of
these
items.
A
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
your
time
and
your
attention
and
for
being
here
today,
and
hopefully
it's
a
lot
of
information,
and
it
is
all
very
important
and
very
relevant
and
I
appreciate
your
comments
and
appreciate
your
input
and
hopefully,
if
you're
not
able
to
attend
this
afternoon
at
five
o'clock,
the
Consultants
will
be
there
again
at
Hilton,
Head
Library.
A
Please
tell
other
people
a
lot
of
times
when
we
are
aware
of
this
information.
If
there's
meetings-
and
we
say
well
I
can't
go-
doesn't
mean
that
you
shouldn't
tell
someone
else:
maybe
they
can
go,
especially
from
your
family
or
from
your
community
from
your
circle.
We
really
need
to
get
the
information
out.
I
want
to
get
the
word
out.
We
want
people
to
be
well
informed
about
the
good
work
that
we're
trying
to
do
here
in
the
town.