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Town of Hilton Head Island, Finance and Administrative Committee
Meeting Agenda available at https://www.hiltonheadislandsc.gov/towncouncil/agendas
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Skip
hoagland
with
mill,
harbor
you're,
not
in
foia
compliance.
Mr
lennox,
can
you
answer
the
following
questions
for
me:
southern
south
carolina
investigators
and
your
future
depositions
in
your
lawsuit?
Why
have
you
allowed
this
chamber
and
ariana
pernice
to
present
fraudulent
chamber
industry
performance
metrics
in
order
to
help
bill
miles,
keep
stealing
millions
of
a-tax
funds?
F
You
mccann
and
harkins
claim
you
went
to
the
chamber
offices
to
see
accounting
and
receipts
for
atac
expenditures.
Is
this
correct
and
you
claim
you
and
everything
looked
okay
and
honest,
and
this
was
done
in
an
hour
inspection?
Is
this
correct
you
committed
fraud?
You
lied!
Is
that
correct,
mr
lennox,
if
they
tax
funds
paid
for
the
dmo
app
and
website
with
over
1
million
in
a
tax
funds
taken
to
canada,
how
is
it
possible
that
bill
miles
can
claim?
F
You
do
you
think
the
dmo
contract
you
signed
for
five
years
with
bill
miles
with
no
accounting
provisions
is
legal
and
valid
fact
is
you
knew
it
was
illegal,
as
well
as
crooked
lawyers
finger
and
coltrane
who
scheme
this
chamber
contract
with
you
and
ames
fact.
Is
you
can't
issue
tax
funds
to
be
illegally
used
by
bill
miles
for
his
500
000
pay
package,
2
million
dollar
house?
F
That
does
not
benefit
tourism
and
the
public
good
reason
and
use
the
chamber
and
bill
miles,
can't
use
tax
funds
for
private
profit
and
not
pay
irs
nonprofit
tax
yubit
tax
taxes
from
advertising
sales.
Mr
ames,
you
can't
be
this
stupid
to
allow
all
this
and
mr
mr
lennox,
we
understand
why
you
do
a
tax
laws
and
state
a
tax,
but
a
tax
laws
and
state
aid
tax
funds
issued
to
a
dmo
chamber
must
only
be
used
for
the
higher
dmo
to
promote
and
market.
F
The
destination
only
where
does
it
say
that
a
higher
dmo
can
be
a
higher
non-profit
chamber,
cbb
and
worse
upsell
advertising
on
the
dmo
app
and
website
and
pocket
all
the
profits
and
violate
our
non-profit
tax
codes.
Perhaps
lawyer
stanford
can
answer
that
mr
lennox,
your
fraud
and
tax
hikes
will
end
soon.
F
We
look
forward
to
watching
all
this
unfold
in
media
coverage,
lawsuits
depositions
and
discovery,
especially
the
handcuffs
and
the
rest,
is
what
I'm
looking
forward
to,
and
I
don't
know
who
is
worse,
becker
or
lykins,
who
I
don't
know
who
we're
going
to
choose,
and
this
is
a
fact
this
horseshack
is
running
for
for
be
the
new
mayor
and
alan
perry
is
an
insider
crook.
Allen.
Perry
is
a
crook,
and
I
have
proof
that
he's
a
crook,
so
he's
not
going
to
be
mayor
if
I
can
help
it.
Thank
you
very
much.
D
A
Good
morning,
mr
chairman,
members
of
the
committee,
I
want
to
just
give
you
a
kind
of
a
brief
background
on
this
item
to
tee
up
our
discussion
for
today,
beginning
in
2020,
the
southern
lowcountry
regional
board,
which
is
a
group
of
the
local
governments
consisting
of
hardyville
bluffton
hilton,
head
beaufort
and
at
one
point
time.
Ridgeland.
A
As
an
outgrowth
of
those
discussions
in
2021,
the
town
council
adopted
as
one
of
our
strategic
initiatives
the
ability
to
explore
potential
participation
within
this
regional
housing,
trust,
and
so
a
lot
of
discussions
have
occurred
within
that
regional
body
to
ultimately
culminate
in
a
draft
memorandum
or
intergovernmental
agreement.
That
is
before
you
today
for
consideration
and
in
order
to
help
examine
the
terms
of
that
document
and
understand
how
they
would
be
applied
and
then
also
kind
of
what
the
additional
attributes
would
be
of
participating
in
a
regional
housing
trust.
A
We
have
asked
miss
tammy,
hoy
who's,
the
director
of
community
works
and
community
works
is
the
entity
that
beaufort
county
has
identified
to
work
with
helping
to
oversee
and
manage
this
regional
housing
trust
once
it
becomes
formally
created.
So
we've
invited
her
to
here
come
today
to
present
you
with
some
information
and
then
be
able
to
answer
questions
that
you
have
about
this
particular
proposal.
Josh.
C
G
You
on
the
screen
when
we've
it's
up
here.
Thank
you.
Yes,
when
we've
had
the
soloco
meeting,
so
I'm
glad
to
be
here
today,
just
a
little
bit
about
me
and
my
background.
I've
been
doing
affordable
housing
for
about
25
years,
actually
launched
the
first
local
housing
trust
fund
in
charleston,
worked
under
mayor
riley
for
many
years
and
over
the
time
has
launched
several
other
nonprofit
loan
funds,
and
currently
the
ceo
at
community
works.
So
you
guys
can
look
into
that.
G
Just
want
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
background
actually
have
been
in
the
low
country
for
quite
some
time.
A
little
bit
of
what
I
wanted
to
share
is
just
a
little
refresher.
I
think
part
of
the
questions
that
came
up
was
a
little
bit
more
just
about
housing,
trust
funds
and
just
generally,
how
they
work
and
how
they
operate,
and
so
I
thought
it
would
be
helpful
just
to
share
with
you
there's
about
47
states
that
have
housing
trust
funds.
G
We
have
a
state
housing
trust
fund,
there's
local
housing,
trust
funds,
so
there's
about
a
750
housing
trust
funds
across
the
country
across
the
country.
Most
of
them
are
enabled
through
enabling
legislation.
So
in
south
carolina
we
have
the
measure
act
which
actually
was
passed
when
I
was
in
charleston
working
with
senator
mescher,
who
was
in
the
berkeley,
dorchester
county
area
at
the
time
to
enable
housing
trust
funds
to
create,
which
then
enables
you
all,
as
councils
and
government
entities
to
fund
those
funds,
those
trust
funds
to
support,
affordable
housing.
G
G
Actually,
fund
the
the
housing
trust
fund,
lots
of
different
funding
sources.
You
can
tap
into
you,
know
it's
all
based
on
state
law
and
what
you're
able
to
enable
at
you
know,
per
state
law.
Some
people
do
developers
fees,
some
people
do
a
percentage
of
the
tax
base,
people
some
people
do
percentages
of
de-recording
fees,
so
there's
a
lot
of
different
ways
that
our
funding-
I
know
we're
talking
here
about
arpa
funds.
Initially,
you
can
really
focus
on
any
types
of
projects
that
you
want.
G
What
we're
looking
at
is
doing
loans
and
grants
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that,
and
then
the
goal
is
to
obviously
to
leverage
and
be
as
flexible
as
possible.
These
are
not
u.s
hud
and
urban
development
funding
right.
Those
are
the
most
strict,
restrictive
funds
that
are
out
there.
These
are
really
meant
to
be
flexible.
To
meet
your
priorities,
your
community
priorities,
so
they're
really
meant
to
be
super.
Flexible
housing,
trust
funds
that
currently
exist.
G
If
you
didn't
know
so
we
have
the
state
housing
trust
fund
that
is
funded
through
deed,
recording
fees.
So
every
time
a
transaction
happens
any
real
estate
in
south
carolina,
a
certain
percentage
of
that
goes
to
the
state
department
of
revenue
and
then
the
state
housing
trust
fund
makes
that
available
on
a
competitive
process
to
non-profits
and
developers.
G
It's
not
the
most
easiest
funding
sources
to
tap
into,
but
it
is
usually
anywhere
between
10
and
20
million
dollars,
depending
obviously
on
real
estate
transactions.
So
a
lot
of
organizations
tap
into
that
several
other
of
the
regional
housing
trust
fund.
Besides
this
one
that
we're
working
on
in
the
low
country
is
the
midlands,
so
the
midlands
and
columbia
area
has
a
midlands
regional
housing
trust
fund
as
well,
and
so
that
they
look
at
about
the
eight
county
area
of
the
midlands
area,
so
that
one
has
been
in
existence
for
a
while.
G
I
shared
with
you
the
one
that
we
launched
in
charleston
called
the
low
country,
housing
trust
fund,
and
then
we
have
a
community
where's
been
working
with
folks
in
the
upstate
to
launch
several
other
local
housing
trusts,
and
you
can
see
here
how
they
were
initially
funded,
whether
that
be
through
general
funds
or
developer
fees.
Josh
had
asked
me
to
share
with
you,
I
shared
with
you,
the
midlands
housing
trust
fund,
which
is
local
here
in
south
carolina,
but
two
other
pretty
well
known
regional
housing.
G
G
So
I
I
know
that
you
guys
have
been
looking
at
this
as
part
of
your
assessment,
so
I
know
recently
through
your
housing
task
force.
You've
looked
at
this
as
a
strategy,
so
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate.
I
know
this
has
been
a
couple
year
process
as
part
of
this.
The
assessment
of
a
regional
fund
and
obviously
we're
kind
of
getting
now
to
the
point.
G
One
question
that
came
up
was
the
benefits
between
a
regional
and
a
local
housing
trust
fund.
We
can
get
more
in
the
weeds
on
that,
mr
lennox.
If
you've
got
some
specifics,
but
obviously
we're
leveraging
capacity,
we're
leveraging
funding,
you
know
we're
leveraging
development
partnerships
we're
also
leveraging
priority.
So
you
know
you
might
have
a
project
that
comes
up
first.
You
know
you
may
have
a
project
that
is
a
priority,
that
we
can
pull
people
together.
G
Obviously,
administrative,
wise
you're
you're,
not
each
entity,
is
not
creating
their
own,
which
obviously
is
a
financial
benefit
to
have
one
organization.
That's
doing
that.
So
there's
a
lot
of
things
and
if
there's
specific
questions
we
can
we
can
talk
about
that
a
little
bit
about
us
just
so
you
get
a
better
feel
for
who
we
are.
So
we
are
a
non-profit
loan
fund,
we're
actually
certified
by
the
u.s
treasury
department
to
be
an
affordable
housing
lender.
G
We
don't
just
do
affordable
housing.
We
also
do
small
business
lending,
so
we're
a
micro
business
lender
as
well,
and
we
really
focus
on
providing
asset
and
wealth
building
opportunities
through
small
business
and
entrepreneurship
and
affordable
housing.
It's
really
core
to
our
mission.
We
are
statewide,
even
though
we're
headquartered
in
greenville.
G
Really
how
the
housing
trust
fund
would
work.
Our
goal
is
that,
as
public
investments
funnel
into
the
fund,
we
leverage
that
with
bank
investments
we
leverage
that
with
repayment.
So
as
loans
are
repaid,
we
then
turn
around
and
recycle
those
funds.
So
we
really
kind
of
create
this
funnel
for
affordable
housing,
in
particular
leveraging
those
public
dollars
as
well.
G
This
is
our
products
and
I've
got
some
stuff.
I
can
leave
with
you
just
a
quick
snapshot.
We,
as
I
mentioned,
we
do
more
than
just
affordable
housing
at
community
works
and
we'll
bring
that
capacity
to
hilton
head
into
the
region.
We
could
do
small
business
loans
here
already.
We
could
do
other
types
of
loans
here,
community
facilities,
so
we're
excited
about
being
more
in
the
market
here
to
support
the
needs
of
the
community.
G
This
is
all
the
different
products
that
we
offer
so,
for
example,
when
we
administer
the
fund
in
partnership
with
beaufort
county,
all
these
products
will
automatically
be
offered,
no
matter
how
much
funding
you
guys
commit.
So
we
can
do
acquisition
funding.
We
can
do
down
payment
assistance
with
certain
partners.
We
do
lines
of
credit.
G
There's
a
lot
of
different
things
that
we
can
do
to
finance
or
preserve,
affordable
housing,
and
this
is
just
kind
of
a
snapshot
of
those
kind
of
where
we
are
now
so
our
recommendation
obviously
being
introduced
to
you.
So
community
works
as
a
possible
administrator
of
the
program
and
and
working
with
regional
partners
to
prioritize
what
is
best
for
you,
and
so
part
of
our
goal
is
meeting
with
each
of
these
jurisdictions
to
say
is
home
ownership.
Your
priority
is
redevelopment
of
existing
properties.
G
G
The
other
thing
is
the
mou
and
which
we're
working
with
beaufort
county
on
and
obviously
the
intergovernmental
agreement,
which
then
enables
you
guys
to
do.
The
housing
fund
is
the
next
steps.
We
actually
are
hiring
a
local
program
manager.
So
community
works.
Yes,
we
are
in
greenville,
but
we
are
statewide,
but
we
recognize
we're
not
here
every
day
it
is
a
hour
drive,
although
I
love
to
come,
but
we're
going
to
have
a
regional
program
manager
who
will
be
here
in
the
beaufort
area.
G
That
actually
will
one
of
our
partners
is
the
coastal
community
foundation
and
they're
going
to
be
housed
in
their
offices
in
beaufort,
so
they'll
be
close
by
as
well,
so
that's
kind
of
where
we
are
we're
trying
to
coordinate.
You
know
some
of
this
effort
around
the
housing
trust
fund
a
little
bit
of
history
of
housing.
Trust
means
generally
what's
happening
across
south
carolina
with
housing,
trust
funds
and
then
how
this
particular
fund
would
be
set
up
and
administered.
G
And
I'll
make
this
available,
I
know
that
you
have
it
on
your
desktop
there
as
well,
so.
B
G
G
B
G
G
They
did
at
the
time
now
they're
they
had
the
county
north
charleston,
the
city
of
charleston,
were
the
first
three
that
came
on
board
and
then
over
time
they
expanded.
We
launched
that
fund
in
2003
and
that's
when
we
passed
the
measure
act
soon.
After
that
to
create
the
enabling
legislation,
we
tried
to
pass
two
pieces
of
legislation.
G
G
They're
very
well
organized-
and
yes,
yes,
so
yeah,
so
we
were
not
able
to
get
that
because
obviously
that
would
have
helped.
You'd
have
already
had
a
revenue
source
that
would
have
been
enabled
by
the
entire
state.
So
now
we
have
to
do
each
one
individually.
So.
B
B
When
I
look
at
this
regional
entity,
that's
before
us
and
I
see
eight
different
governmental
entities
that
are
going
to
be
participating.
B
B
And
then-
and
so
therefore,
the
dollars
don't
go
as
far
here
as
they
would
in
hardyville
in
our
comprehensive
plan.
We
do
talk
about
regionalism
and
I
see
a
value
in
regionalism
for
the
town
of
hilton
head
island,
but
I
have
to
balance
those
scales
between
the
participation
and
the
likelihood
of
projects
actually
being
built
here.
B
I
see
that
the
document
is
currently
drafted
would
fund
up
to
100
ami,
which
was
something
that
was
fought
over
recently,
because
there
were
many
that
wanted
it
lower.
Yes,
and
I
would
observe
to
you
that,
obviously
ami
is
an
average
over
the
entire
region
and
we
are
the
skew
on
near
the
top,
if
not
at
the
top
of
that
array,
and
so
will
the
town
of
hilton
head
island
benefit
from
a
regional
trust
fund.
B
Then
you
go
further
and
you
see
in
the
document
a
preference
for
those
closer
to
60
percent
of
ami.
So
again,
will
the
town
of
hilton
that
island
participate
or
or
enjoy
participation
and
benefit
from
this?
One
of
the
arguments
that
I
hear
is
that
we
have
employees
workers
who
come
here
from
off
the
island.
We
know
that
right
how
many
of
them
come
from
hardyville
how
many
of
them
come
from
other
areas.
G
I'd
answer
a
couple
things
and
understand
those
concerns.
I
think
I
think
the
number
one
benefit
is
the
ability
to
leverage
significant,
more
financial
resources,
as
well
as
the
capacity
to
deliver
on
the
types
of
housing
that
you
want.
I
think
part
of
the
strategy
is
to
identify
what
is
the
priorities
and
so
you're
right.
I
know
because
I
was
at
the
meeting
presenting
about
150.
G
You
guys
wanted
150
of
ami,
but
again
I
think
the
prioritization
of
60
and
below
is
really
to
support
some
of
the
hospitality
type
workers
which
is
a
little
bit
lower
wage
and
so
to
to
really
try
to
create
mixed
income.
Housing
for
all
incomes
is
part
of
that
strategy.
So
I
understand
why
60
percent
was
put
into
the
document.
G
I
would
say
that
it
doesn't
preclude
you
from
trying
to
do
150
of
ami
and
some
program
that
you
might
want
to
do
separate
of
the
housing
trust
fund.
I
think
you
may
decide
to
do
that.
For
example,
we
are
already
working
with
the
city
of
beaufort
to
do
a
down
payment
assistance
program
for
their
first
responders,
they're
doing
that
already
outside
of
participating
in
this
regional
fund,
we're
doing
the
same
thing
with
beaufort
memorial
hospital.
G
They
are
using
down
payment
assistance
to
support
their
employees
to
live
and
work
within
a
15-mile
radius
of
any
one
of
their
campuses
right.
So
there
are
some
creative
things
that
we
can
do,
but
I
think
in
terms
of
some
of
the
projects
that
I
saw
in
your
task
force
document
north
point
and
some
others.
If
you're
talking
about
significant
financing
and
being
able
to
do
millions
of
dollars
in
acquisition,
construction,
rehab
gap,
financing
subsidy,
I
think
you're
going
to
have
a
much
better
opportunity
to
leverage
with
a
regional
type
of
approach.
G
Because
again
I
think,
obviously,
the
advisory
committee,
which
you
guys
will
have
a
seat
on
or
the
oversight
board,
would
actually
identify
and
prioritize
prioritize
projects.
So
I
do-
and
I
think
you're
also
leveraging-
then
of
course,
the
administrative
capacity
of
that
as
well.
You
know,
I
know
that
you've
got
town
staff,
but
I'm
sure
that
they're
busy
with
other
things.
But
how
do
you
then
leverage
the
ability
to
to
have
the
administrative
support
and
the
expertise
to
you
know
to
deliver?
G
I
know:
there's
an
rfq
out
there
right
now
with
some
potential
development
partners,
so
I
do
think
that
the
regional
outweighs.
I
do
also
think
that
you
know
from
a
funding
standpoint.
There
are
some
things
that
we
can
tap
into.
We
may
not
be
able
to
tap
into
just
as
one
municipality
or
one
local
entity
on
its
on
its
own,
so
I
think
there
is
some
scale
scalability,
but.
B
You
hear
my
struggle
about
what
what
is
the
benefit
to
the
citizens
of
hilton
head
island
and
the
most
I
can
come
up
with
there
is
that
many
of
the
employees
who
actually
work
here
on
the
island
live
in
these
other
communities
where
housing
projects
like
this
might
be
built.
But
I
don't
see
a
high
probability
of
a
project
being
built
here
because
of
economic
factors,
not
because
somebody's
discriminating
against
us,
but
just
the
flat
economics
you
can
put
build
more
housing
in
hardyville
for
a
certain
amount
of
dollars
than
you
can
on
hilton
island.
B
G
Our
own
price,
absolutely
yeah.
Well
and
again,
I
really
I
hear
what
you're
saying
and
I
know
it
is
difficult.
You
know
you
got
trust
me.
I
mean
we
had
a
bridge
in
charleston
right
so
like.
Why
was
our
trust
fund
funding
mount
pleasant
deals?
Well
because
we
did
see
the
fact
that
people
were
living
in
mount
pleasant
and
working
in
downtown
charleston.
E
G
Have
the
same
you
know
in
in
the
midlands
right
where,
but
it's
a
little
bit
different,
because
you
you're
just
crossing
highways,
you're,
not
crossing
bridges
and
so
but
again,
like
you,
said
your
workforce
and
I
think
that's
interesting
data.
I'd
love
to
look
into
that
and
tracking
the
percentage
of
employees
that
do,
I
think,
there's
a
huge
out
in
commute
for
sure
in
the
data
that
I've
seen,
but
I
think
that's
part
of
it
and
then
thinking
about
well.
G
H
Yes
welcome
and
thank
you
thank
you.
I
I
will
say
that
I'm
truly
excited
about
having
this
conversation,
both
regionally
and
locally.
Okay-
and
you
know,
I
see
some
positives-
I'm
pleased
that
we've
engaged
with
someone
with
your
type
of
knowledge
base,
okay,
but
I
want
to
offer
out
loud
that
you
know
feel
free
to
offer
to
us
your
negative
experiences
also
when
it
comes
to
housing,
trust
funds
and
your
experience,
I
think
that's
important
for
us.
H
You
mentioned
that
you
had
scars
from
dealing
with
the
relatives,
but
there
any
other
scars
that
you
could
that's.
Okay,
if
the
any
other
scars
that
you
could
you
know
mentioned
to
us
along
the
way.
I
think
it
would
be
important.
I've
got
a
few
questions
here.
I'll
try
to
go
one
at
a
time.
The
the
list
of
current
housing
funds
that
you
mentioned
earlier
are
those
the
only
ones
in
the
state
and
also
just
could
you
give
us
some
indication
of
what
those
budgets
look
like?
G
Well,
currently,
none
of
besides
the
state
housing
trust
fund.
None
of
these
have
a
true
dedicated
revenue
source.
As
of
yet
so,
and
I
would
say,
the
low
country,
housing
trust
is
actually
now
the
soccer
and
food
loan
fund,
which
I
found
it
is
now
more
statewide
and
regional,
and
not
as
much
getting
government
funds
so
they've
they're,
40
million
in
assets.
Now
I
mean
they've
grown
outside
of
just
that.
The
state
housing
trust
link
is
the
deed
recording
fee,
so
they
get
a
sliver
of
that
every
year
and
their
budget
does
change.
G
I'm
not
sure
what
it
is
right
now
because
of
the
current
economy,
the
both
the
greenville
housing
fund
and
the
spartanburg
housing
fund
were
only
just
recently
launched,
as
you
saw,
and
I
think
the
greenville
housing
fund
is
now
up
to
about
10
million,
so
greenville
county
and
the
city
of
greenville.
G
So
even
though
it
was
launched
within
the
city,
it
was
a
city
initiative,
john
castillo
who
was
a
city
manager
at
the
time,
and
the
mayor
launched
it
originally
and
then
the
county
came
on
board
later,
so
they
just
they
just
committed
seven
million
dollars
to
the
fund,
so
they
have
grown.
This
is
just
how
they
were
launched
and
then.
G
Added
because
they
because
it
was
a
separate
entity,
the
same
with
the
spartanburg
fund,
it
was
funded
initially
with
a
one
point:
million
dollar
developer
fee
for
a
project
in
the
city
of
spartanburg,
and
now
the
county
is
coming
on
board.
So
again,
not
a
whole
lot
of
history
there
to
share
with
you
on
on
that
some
of
the
other
national
ones
that
have
existed
have
existed
for
20
plus
years
and
have
used
accommodations
taxes.
They've
used.
G
H
G
Think
a
little
bit
more,
it's
a
great
question.
We
did
talk
a
lot
about
that
over
the
last
year
or
whatever
we've
been
doing
the
intergovernmental
agreement
about
elected
officials
or
not.
I
will
tell
you
that
when
I
launched
the
low
country
housing
trust
fund,
you
know,
mayor
riley
was
very
adamant
that
it
wouldn't
be
a
lot
of
elected
officials,
because
then
the
whole
war
would
be
elected
officials-
and
you
know
so
we
decided
not
to
go
that
route.
G
I
will
say
in
greenville
when
we
launched
the
greenville
housing
fund,
it
was
only
the
city
in
the
county
and
there
was
an
appointed
person
from
the
city
and
the
county,
so
everyone
has
done
it
a
little
bit
different.
I
would
say
part
of
the
oversight
board.
G
I
think
that's
probably
more
in
our
agreement
with
administering
the
program,
so
I
think
that
type
of
oversight
can
still
exist,
but
I
think
the
challenge
has
always
been
how
many
elected
officials,
if
then
the
whole
committee
is
elected
officials
and
and
then
the
elected
official
doesn't
get
reelected,
then
you're
starting
all
over,
and
so
there's
there's
some
of
that.
That
doesn't
create
consistency
and
in
this
type
of
initiative
you
really
want
consistency,
and
you
really
want
the
expertise
to
represent
your
community
for
sure
yeah.
H
I
think
the
the
reporting
or
the
inner
relationship,
the
communication
back
and
forth
is
key,
and
you
know
how
you
concrete
that
in
the
agreement
is
important,
because
we
can't
always
measure
you
know
the
effectiveness
of
the
lack
of
by
numbers
right.
There
are
other
ways
to
measure
that
I
think
that's
important,
that
that
communication
continues
to
come
back
to
elected
officials
as
we
are
making
decisions
along
the
way.
The
the
other
thing
was,
you
know,
talk
a
lot
about.
H
Donor
community,
okay-
and
you
know
there
is
some
concern
about
our
return
on
our
investment
when
it
comes
to
this
juncture,
but
you
mentioned
a
couple
things
that
I
just
want
to
be
clear:
there
are
some
items
that
run
across
the
county
or
the
region.
H
G
Right
right
I
mean
we
could
try
to.
We
could
tap
into
other
funding
sources
that
could
benefit
the
the
region,
like
you're
saying
as
a
more
regional
approach.
So
yes,
I
mean
it
could
be
funding
that
we
don't
currently
access
now
for
hilton
head.
That
could
be
beneficial
or
we
could
offer
programs
if
those
are
priorities.
I
know
there
was
a
discussion
in
the
study
in
the
task
force
around
rehab
rehabilitation
in
existing
homes.
G
We
know
ayers
property
is
an
issue
in
the
islands
for
sure
it
was
an
issue
in
charleston,
so
yeah.
I
think
the
goal
the
way
I
see
next
steps.
If,
if
hilton
head
participates
in
this
regional
effort,
is
we
would
sit
down
with
your
planning
team,
your
community,
you
know
your
your
staff,
as
well
as
whomever
else
and
prioritize
based
on
what
you
guys
did
with
that
task
force
and
say,
because
you
mentioned
workforce
housing
specifically
which,
when
you
said
about
what
are
things
that
are
negatives
or
concerns
a
lot
of
times.
B
G
In
my
backyard
and
how
we
really
those
are
some
some
challenges
that
we
sometimes
face
on
the
type
of
housing
you
know,
so
I
think
we'd
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
prioritizing
those
areas
but
you're
right.
We
could
leverage
some
other
resources
county
wide
that
may
we
may
not
be
able
to
tap
into
just
individually.
H
H
Right
so
sure
the
homelessness
you
know
the
county
has
continued
to
report
that
we
don't
have
a
way
to
to
put
metrics
around
the
number
of
homeless
folks
in
the
county,
because
we
don't
have
a
shelter,
and
in
this
case
I'm
you
know
looking
down
the
road,
maybe
there's
opportunity
for
a
shelter
versus
us
just
continuing
to
say
we
can't
count,
because
we
don't
have
one
knowing
that
there's
the
homelessness
factor
here
on
hilton,
head
and
throughout
the
region.
H
Any
ideas
as
to
how
the
green
space
referendum
idea
would
play
into
something
like
this.
You
know
when
you
start
to
talk
about
housing
and
affordability.
It
all
gets
back
to
supply
and
demand.
In
my
mind,
okay,
the
more
supply
you
have.
Hopefully,
the
demand
can
catch
up
and
we
get
rents
that
are
sensible
right.
H
Any
thoughts
on
how
you
know
the
acquisition
of
of
raw
land
over
time
would
benefit
or
not
benefit
this
program.
G
Well,
you
certainly
could
use
some
of
the
funding
to
land
bank
right,
and
I
know
you
guys
have
some
land
that
you're
looking
at
repurposing
for
affordable
housing.
I
think
you
know
the
other
word
that
may
or
may
not
be
a
good
word
here
is
you
know
more
density
on
certain
parcels
that
makes
sense
along
certain
corridors
in
certain
areas.
G
So
I
think
there's
some
creative
things
when
you
talk
about
you
know
minimal
land
ability
right
and
certainly
I
know,
there's
some
challenges
because
josh
and
I
have
talked
about
commercial
properties
and
how
do
you
repurpose
commercial
properties,
in
a
way
that
could
be
used
for
affordable
housing?
So
I
think
it
is
about
that
evaluation
of
those
different
areas-
and
I
know
conservation
and
green
space-
is
really
important.
H
Sure,
thank
you,
mr
chair.
Those
are
my
questions.
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that,
with
the
the
amount
of
funding
that
is
being
proposed
by
municipality
with
our
contribution
being,
you
know
just
upwards
of
a
million
dollars
over
a
nine
year
period
and
us
wanting
to
continue
to
be
regional
players
and
the
fact
that
this
is
going
to
offer
up
more
flexibility
for
us
right
and
right
now.
H
We
don't
have
a
whole
lot
of
options,
so
I'm
inclined
to
to
move
this
along,
so
we
can
have
a
discussion
with
the
full
council
on
this
topic
yeah.
So
thank
you.
Well,.
E
To
do
yes,
I
I
have
some
comments
that
I
would
like
our
our
guests
to
res
to
weigh
in
on.
From
my
perspective,
I
don't
view
this
as
a
binary
decision.
We
either
fund
a
regional
or
we
fund
a
local.
E
I
think,
can
come
from
this
so
my
question,
my
first
question
is:
if
we
chose
to
participate
in
a
regional
program
which
which
I'm
inclined
to
do,
would
it
be
poor
form
on
our
part,
to
also
develop
a
local
program
that
we
fund
and
control
at
100
level.
G
So
I
guess
it
would
depend-
and
I
mentioned
to
this
briefly-
to
to
josh
at
the
meeting-
if
there
is
a
priority,
for
example,
the
150
of
ami
and
you've
got
a
target
program
or
product
that
you
want
to
offer.
I
think
you
could
set
that
aside
to
support
like
city
of
beaufort.
They
set
aside
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
down
payment
assistance
for
firefighters,
police,
that
kind
of
thing
to
live
within
the
city
or
within
a
certain
mile
radius,
because
they
know
that
they
may
be
living
in
the
county.
G
So
I
think
that
there
is
some
creativity
there,
mr
harkins,
that
we
could
think
about.
If
you
wanted
to
keep
some
funding-
and
I
don't
know,
do
you
all
get
cdbg
and
yeah,
so
you
know
like
your
cdbg
and
home
funds
that
you
get
already
from
the
department
of
housing
and
urban
development.
It
could
be
that
just
this,
maybe
you
pair
this
with
that
money
in
some
form
or
fashion,
where
cdbg
is
not
beneficial,
I
know
usually
use
it
for
infrastructure
a
lot
of
times
right
or
home
funds.
G
You
pair
this
up
with
that.
So
you
could
do
that
and
then
you
would
just
administer
it
through
your
staff
that
it
currently
administers
cdbg
and
home.
So
then
you
don't
have
an
added
staff
capacity.
I
think
the
biggest
thing
with
this,
mr
brown,
as
you
mentioned,
is
the
benefit
of
of
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
per
year.
You
wouldn't
be
able
to
hire
a
person
for
a
hundred.
You
know
what
I'm
saying.
G
I
mean
I'm
just
being
honest
and
candid
about
that,
because
it's
difficult
to
find
the
expertise
that
you
need
and
then
leverage
that
hundred
thousand
with
bank
fund
finance.
You
know
we
get
cra
investments
because
we're
a
cdfi,
you
know
so
we
have
banking
relationships.
So
I
think
this
regional
approach
allows
you
to
leverage
some
of
that
staffing
capacity,
but
it
doesn't
preclude
you
to
set
aside
funding
just
like
you
would
in
your
normal
budget
for
something
that
you
specifically
want
to
prioritize.
E
Well,
just
continuing
on
this
train
of
thought
would
it
be
possible,
and
would
it
make
sense
to
you
if
we
we
jumped
into
the
pool
with
the
multi-county
effort
and
contributed
our
100k
a
year
and
gave
that
our
best
effort
and
at
the
same
time
we
contracted
with
you
or
a
company
like
you
to
help
us
with
a
sharp
focus
on
hilton,
head
island.
G
I
mean,
I
think,
that's
that's
possible
if
you
needed
our
assistance
or
consulting
support,
or
I
mean
obviously
we're
already
going
to
be
here
and
if
you're
a
part
of
the
multi-regional
effort.
We
have
an
agreement
that
we
sent
to
eric
greenway,
to
evaluate
to
for
us
to
administer
the
regional
fund
and
if
there's
something
separate
that
you
wanted
from
community
works
or
from
you
know
from
us,
then
we
could
certainly
have
that
discussion.
E
Thank
you,
and
you
were
mentioning
earlier
how
difficult
it
is
to
herd
cats.
If
you
will,
in
reference
to
another
community
bringing
us
I,
I
don't
think
we
have
a
sterling
record
for
working
together
on
a
regional
basis,
and
I
think
I
think
this
is
one
example
of
a
regional
effort
that
I
think,
use
your
words
or
the
words
in
the
report.
That
really
reflects
best
practice,
because
I
think
working
together
is
going
to
endure
to
the
benefit
of
all
of
us.
E
But
I
think
if
we
and
this
is
projection,
but
I
think
we're
ready
to
choose
not
to
join
in
this,
I
think
we
may
be
putting
a
wet
blanket
on
other
initiatives
unrelated
to
this.
That
could
rise
and
benefit
the
entire
multi-county
area.
So
I,
I
think,
that's
more
of
a
political
comment
to
move
in
this
direction.
E
G
So
there
is
in
the
agreement-
I
don't
have
it
in
front
of
me,
but
it's
a
great
point.
I
mean.
Obviously
you
can
terminate
the
agreement.
I
mean
there's
some
language
in
there
about
that.
There's
also
some
discussion
around
how
to
mitigate
certain
issues.
So
I
mean
I
think
if
there
was
a
complaint
or
some
issue,
then
we'd
have
to
look
at
the
termination
or
mitigating
any
specific
issue
specifically
to
to
that
intergovernmental
agreement,
and
I'm
sure
that
you
have
other
intergovernmental
type
agreements
that
you
know
either
have
been
successful
or
not
successful.
G
Like
you're
saying
there's
some
history
there,
but
obviously
there
is
an
out
in
in
that
agreement
and
then
I
would
assume
as
long
as
there's
no
funding
deployed
into
a
specific
project
funding.
Would
this
then
be
returned
to
without
reading
the
details
and
not
being
a
lawyer
that
the
funds
would
be
returned
to
hilton
head
or
not
dispersed
to
a
project
or
something?
So
I'm
sure
that
would
have
to
have
to
unwind
that
as
well.
E
My
last
question
may
not
be
a
fair
one,
but
just
visual
just
consider
yourself
as
our
head
of
pr
the
town
of
hilton
at
for
a
moment
and
the
town
of
hilton
has
decided
to
join
this
multi-regional
effort
and,
at
the
same
time
it
has
decided
concurrently
to
have
a
a
local
built-in
head
effort.
G
I
think
I
think
well,
I
think
it's
two-pronged
strategy.
One
is
hilton
head,
is
committed
to
the
region
to
the
southern
low
country
region,
to
support,
affordable
workforce
housing
is
part
of
the
messaging
and
part
of
that
commitment
is
investing
financial
resources
not
only
in
hilton
head,
but
in
our
neighboring
partnering
communities
to
make
sure
we
have
a
successful
region.
The
second
piece
could
be,
but
to
prioritize
something
that's
very
important
to
hilton
head.
G
And
the
regional
benefit
of
affordable
workforce
housing
for
the
community.
I'm
sorry
I
keep
looking
up
in
here,
but
you're
also
saying,
but
we
also
prioritize
this
specific
thing
whatever
that
is,
mr
harkins,
I'm
not
exactly
sure
like
like
down
payment
assistance
for
home
buyers
or
something
I
don't
know
what
that
I'm
just
using
as
an
example,
since
it's
the
two
recent
ones
we've
done
already
is
an
opportunity.
I
would
also
say
you
saw
in
the
greenville
model
philanthropy
put
in
a
million
dollars.
G
So
when
the
city
said
we're
going
to
do
this,
philanthropy
said
well,
we'll
do
it.
If
you
do
it
right,
it
was
kind
of
like
tit
for
tat
right,
and
so
I
also
think
that
the
coastal
community
foundation,
which
is
a
funder
in
the
region
and
I've,
also
talked
with
scott
over
at
low
country
about
the
housing
fund
model.
You
know
we
could
hopefully
leverage
some
other
partners
to
invest
in
whether
it
be
the
regional
priority
or
local
priority,
but
I'm
not
a
communications
expert.
G
I
was
a
political
science
major
because
everything's
political
as
you
all
know,
and
and
so,
but
I
would
I
would
imagine
that
would
be
the
the
story.
We'd
be
telling
we're
committed
to
the.
E
D
Thank
you
bill
before
I
get
into
my
comments
and
questions.
I
think
a
couple
housekeeping
items
are
appropriate.
It's
now
10
45..
We
are
on
a
hard
finish
time
of
about
11
25,
because
there's
an
11
30
meeting
in
the
same
room
and
we've
got
one
more
agenda
item
and
it's
john
troyer's
presentation
of
our
fiscal
year
end.
So
that
being
said,
I'll
move
quickly,
but
tammy.
I
was
impressed
when
you
presented
to
suloco,
and
I
am
more
than
impressed
with
your
presentation
to
us.
G
Yes,
I
mean
we
are
committed
to
this
regional
effort.
We
are
actually
have
already
looking
to
hire
someone
who
will
be
here
locally,
so
we're
we're
already
financially
investing
in
the
effort,
and
I
would
say
that
we'd
be
doing
that
because
we
care
about
the
region,
so
hilton
head
doesn't
come
on
board,
we're
still
going
to
hire
this
person
and
we're
still
going
to
move
forward
with
trying
to
support,
affordable
housing
in
the
region.
D
Yes
is
good.
The
midlands
housing
trust
fund
is
a
regional
trust
fund.
It
is,
is
it
more
than
one
county.
G
It
is
it's
it's
lexington
richland
and
then
it's
the
surrounding
cities
in
the
area.
I'm
not
exactly
sure
all
eight.
I
would
need
to
talk
with
jeff
laramore,
but
I
can
find
out,
but.
D
One
of
our
concerns
has
always
been
the
reason.
There's
not
very
many
regional
housing
trust
funds
is
they're
very
difficult
to
form
and
manage,
and
I'm
so
glad
to
hear
that
there's
one
pretty
close
to
us
that
we
can
find
out
more
from
the
washington
state
housing
trust
fund
with
15
cities
is
that
more
than
one
county.
G
D
G
D
Because
I
I
totally
agree
with
alex-
and
I
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
value
in
proceeding
with
this,
but
empirically
it's
difficult
to
to
prove
to
someone
that
we
know
that
there
are
people
living
in
the
development
of
hardyville
that
this
trust
fund
built
and
they're
working
on
the
island.
We
know
that's
true,
but
at
this
point
empirically
we
can't
prove
it.
D
Excellent
to
the
iga
quickly
in
section
1a,
it's
conspicuous
in
that
it
says.
60
and
lower
ami
will
be
received
priority
consideration,
so
I'll
mention
where
that
may
come
in
conflict
with
a
later
paragraph
in
the
iga
section
2c.
D
Okay
and
what
are
examples
of
quote,
meeting
important
strategic
goals
for
housing,
location,
unquote,.
G
So
I
mean,
I
think,
that's
going
to
be
based
on
prioritization
similar
to
your
second
question,
which
is
around
each
jurisdiction
defining
what
those
priorities
are,
because
I
know
in
certain
communities
density
is
not
an
option
because
of
planning
rules
and
things
like
that,
but
in
some
areas
it
makes
sense
in
the
city
of
beaufort
right.
Okay,
I
think
it's
about
defining
what
those
key
priorities
are.
D
G
Yes,
so
community
works
and
I'm
happy
to
send
financials
are
about
29
million
dollars
in
assets.
We
have
currently
about
10
million
dollars
available
to
lend
into
projects
that
could
be
here
in
this
region.
Part
of
those
investments
are
through
cra
investments
from
we
just
got
an
investment
from
united
community
bank.
I
know
they're
here.
First
citizens,
bank
td
bank,
those
are
all
partners
of
ours
that
we
would
bring
to
the
those
investments
would
come
with
a
relationship.
D
G
So
those
are
we,
I
think
we
would
evaluate
those,
but
a
lot
of
folks
do
bonds.
Charleston
did
a
bond
two
bonds
over
the
years
as
well.
G
They
did
a
10
million
dollar
and
a
20
million
dollar
bond
over
time.
So
I
mean,
I
think,
that
there's
some
people
do
increase
their
millage
to
support,
affordable
housing.
Some
use,
some
fear,
doesn't.
G
Not
if
you're
currently
allow
allowed
to
do
it.
I
do
not
think
so.
Okay,
but,
but
I
know
currently
accommodations
hospitality.
Those
are
not
eligible,
although
other
communities
across
the
country
do
use
those
because
they
tie
it
to
what
mr
stanford
said:
workforce
housing.
We
did
an
analysis
of
that
with
francis
cantwell
at
the
city
of
charleston
many
years
ago
and
looked
at
the
legal
nexus
around
that,
but
we
never
really
pursued
it.
We
were
pursuing
more
of
the
d
we
were
trying
to
tie
real
estate
with
real
estate.
A
G
Yes,
so
community
communityworks,
we
get
annual
audits
already
and
we
get
also
an
a133
audit
because
we
get
funding
from
treasury
and
department
of
housing
urban
development,
several
federal.
So
we
do.
We
do
get
audit
and
your
this
would
be
a
fund
under
us,
so
we'd
be
it
would
be
a
fund
within
community
works.
Oh.
D
Okay,
section
3f:
here's
where
I
think
the
conflict
may
develop
it
says
preference
must
be
given
to
a
project
which
serves
those
less
than
100
percent
of
the
ami.
D
G
I
think
I
think
it
could
be.
I
mean
I
think
when
we
prioritize,
I
mean
I
think
the
challenge
will
be
to
identify
how
we
prioritize
projects.
I
do
know
that
you
know
based
on
the
discussion
that
we
had
that
that's
what
the
study
had
recommended.
So
I
think
that's
why
a
lot
of
people
felt
really
adamant
about
supporting
that,
not
to
mention
that
those
are
our
hourly
wage
workers
that
you
know
typically
earn
60
and
below.
G
I
think
we
also
have
seen
a
lot
of
success
with
mixed
income
developments,
though
mr
lennox,
which
has
enabled
lower
affordability,
a
project
that
I
did
in
spartanburg,
for
example,
was
90
units
and
we
had
amis
from
30
of
ami
going
back
to
the
homeless
discussion,
all
the
way
up
to
market
rate.
So
I
think
that
we
can
reconcile
that
with
the
types
of
projects
that
we
prioritize
in
certain
communities
and.
D
G
So
the
way
that
we,
so
we
underwrite
each
project
financially
just
like
a
bank,
so
we
talk
about
merit.
We
talk
about
the
financial
feasibility
of
the
project
to
be
successful
and
then
I
think
we'd
also
probably
evaluate
like
you're
saying,
based
on
priority.
What
what
that
may
change
over
time.
You
know
the
ami
is
going
to
change,
so
your
priorities
may
change.
I
think
we'd
have
to
evaluate
that
on
an
ongoing
basis
for
sure.
D
G
G
G
G
D
G
Yes,
it
will
so
what
we're
doing
now
is
we're
doing
an
a
per
cost
employee
analysis.
So,
for
example,
my
time
our
cfo's
time
other
you
know,
we
have
18
staff
members
at
community
works.
Then
there'll
be
a
person
that
we
hire
here.
So
we're
working
on
that
right
now,
good.
D
D
Okay
and
the
attachment
b1
talks
about
financial
reporting.
I
think
the
financial
reporting
section
should
clearly
define
the
level
of
reporting-
I
I
said
required
by
the
parties,
but
that
may
not
be
applicable,
but
my
initial
feeling
was
the
parties
would
want
to
have
a
say
in
what
sort
of
financial
reporting
we
all
receive.
G
D
If
we
can
see
what
you're
doing
now,
that'd
be
really
good
stuff,
yeah,
I'm
sure
it's
fine
and
two
general
questions.
I
think
you
addressed
the
first
one
already,
and
that
was
how
are
conflicts
among
the
parties
resolved,
and
the
second
question
is:
if
less
than
eight
parties
are
a
part
of
this
iga.
G
G
D
D
This
committee
is
asked
to
recommend
to
town
council
that
it
either
one
agree
to
the
proposed
items
contained
within
the
draft
document
as
presented
the
draft
document
being
the
iga
or
two
proposed
amendments
to
the
draft
document
as
a
condition
of
its
participation
in
the
iga
or
three
declined
to
participate
in
the
agreement.
At
this
time.
E
Bill
yes,
mr
chair,
I
I
would
move
that
we.
E
We
send
this
project
to
town
council
for
for
for
their
approval
and
I
would
be
supporting
the
number
one
option
that
you
discussed
earlier.
C
D
You
chris,
is
there
a
second
a
second
thank
you,
mr
brown,
I'll,
now
open
the
discussion
to
the
public.
Any
comments,
mr
hogg,.
F
F
F
F
F
Many
workers
can
find
the
same
jobs
now
in
bluffton
hardyville
with
their
un
out
of
control
development,
and
they
can
find
they
can
find
affordable
housing
there
as
well.
Also
the
gullah
community,
alex
is
just
been
severely
impacted.
I
don't
I've
been
here
for
47
years.
I
used
to
enjoy
many
things
with
many
of
the
gullah
native
community,
and
I
consider
myself
almost
a
native
and
these
politicians
have
have
hurt
your
community,
your
gullah
community
and
native
community
as
well.
F
D
B
I
cannot
support
this
motion
moving
forward
unless
and
until
I
receive
some
further
information,
preferably
data
that
would
show
the
benefit
to
this
community
of
participating
in
the
regional
trust
fund
versus
I'm
not
opposed
to
the
idea
of
creating
a
trust
fund.
It's
the
regional
concept
and
the
benefit
to
our
citizens.
It's
my
concern.
Thank
you.
D
I
They
are
thank
you,
mr
chair.
Yes,
we're
putting
this
together,
trying
to
be
as
timely
as
possible,
so
you
can
get
an
early
look
without
having
to
wait
for
the
more
formal
reports
later
and
then
you
get
a
sense
of
how.
How
did
the
town
turn
out?
How
did
we
do
and
I'm
cognizant
of
the
time
and
so
I'll
move
forward.
I
As
usual,
we
we
continue
to
monitor
revenues,
we
continue
to
control
expenditures
and
adjust
where
we
need
to
and
we're
on
the
home
stretch,
and
so
we've
got
most
of
our
year-end
adjustments
in
there's
a
few
more
yet
to
do.
But
I
think
we
can
present
a
pretty
good
early
look
and
give
you
a
sense
of
our
financial
picture,
and
so
we
continue
to
benefit
on
the
town
council's
previous
actions,
so
build
reserves,
diversify
revenue
streams
and
invest
in
the
island.
I
I
Above
budget,
so
we
can
be
glad
to
report
that
news
revenue
preview.
We
talked
a
lot
this
year
about
seasonality
and
what's
early
in
the
year
late
in
the
year
and
some
of
the
differences
between
the
years
on
that
different
seasonality.
But
a
more
complete
picture
is
a
full
year
presented
and
so
what
we
have
at
your
day
june
2022
just
this
sample.
I
It's
not
all
our
revenues,
but
just
the
sample
that
we've
been
looking
at
each
month,
999
compared
to
last
year's
86.6
and
so
a
very
healthy
15
above
very
few
that
are
on
the
negative
side.
If
you
look
at
the
negative
side,
real
estate
transfer
fee
last
year
was
a
record
year
and
so
to
be
2.4
percent
below
a
record
year
is,
is
an
excellent
year.
I
I
I
I
would
characterize
this
as
all
really
good
news,
property
taxes,
2021
15,
9,
20,
22,
16,
3
and
so
we're
beating
budget
we're
beating
expectations.
So
we're
glad
about
that.
That
is
directly
related
to
real
estate
transactions
and
home
valuations.
I
Real
estate
transfer
fee
the
similar
message,
as
we
have
in
the
earlier
months,
a
little
bit
less
than
2021
substantially
more
than
2020.
And
so,
if
you
look
at
february
march
april
may
and
june,
the
green
numbers
have
increased
every
single
month,
and
so
that's
a
in
spite
of
interest
rates
going
up.
I
Our
numbers
are
still
going
up
month
by
month
by
month,
and
the
blue
being
last
year's
bars
were
a
record
year
and
so
we're
slightly
behind
last
year's,
but
continues
to
be
positive,
and
it
is
something
that,
as
interest
rates
rise,
our
federal
reserve
has
been
very
aggressive
in
raising
interest
rates.
We'll
see
how
that
affects
our
local
economy,
a
local
real
estate
economy,
year-to-date
collections-
you
can
see
the
yellow
line
is
fiscal
20..
I
Business
licenses.
We've
had
a
lot
of
talk
about
that,
and
this
is
a
collection
of
both
the
state
and
the
local,
and
you
can
see
2020.
We
had
a
reduction
for
the
start
of
covid
and
so
that
immediate
impact
2020
was
really
a
strong
year.
Until
the
shutdown
happened
at
the
start
of
covid
and
then
you
can
see
it
turned
into
a
drop
from
nine
seven
to
eight
seven,
and
we
can
be
thankful.
I
It
wasn't
worse
than
that,
because
the
start
of
the
year
was
so
strong,
2021
bounced
back
and
bounced
back
substantially
up
to
10-5,
and
yet
we
did
even
better
this
year
we
can
see
the
split
between
the
local
and
the
state.
I
think
this
is
significant
that
it,
both
sections
are,
are
showing
increases.
I
I
How
much
is
that
difference
at
three
percent
on
the
locals
would
be
about
two
hundred
thousand
dollars:
expenditures:
year-to-date
spending,
43.6
98
of
budget,
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
than
that
and
6.5
more
than
year
to
date,
and
so
what
we
saw
is
in
june,
people
caught
up
people
caught
up
with
the
invoices,
the
the
vendors,
the
billing
and
all
the
accruals
and
so
june,
as
normal
is
a
higher
expenditure
month
and-
and
this
june
was
no
different
and
you
can
see
our
totals
year-to-year
comparisons
between
these
categories.
I
I
Some
initial
comments:
here's
our
other
funds,
if
you
put
that
service
and
storm
water
out
there,
that
service
at
99.9
storm
water
86
and
put
these
together
at
98
percent
of
spending
of
approved
budgets
in
the
year
before
the
last
couple
of
years.
We
have
been
concerned
about
covid
the
last
couple
of
years.
We
have
kind
of
purposely
held
back
and
of
spending,
and
this
year
was
more.
I
We
did
a
couple
of
things,
one
held
back
the
budget
as
much
as
possible,
and
so
what
you
see
is
a
little
bit
tighter
budget
and
we
are
less
concerned
with
specifically
holding
back
for
covid
just
because
our
revenue
collections
were
good
and
and
let's
go
and
do
what
we're
supposed
to
do
as
a
town.
And
so
I
think
this
is
telling,
with
the
general
fund
more
fully
utilized
how's,
that
compare
compare
what
we
brought
in
versus
what
we
spent
47
million
in
43,
six
out
and
so
net
general
fund
activity.
I
Councilman
brown,
you
ask:
are
we
going
to
gain
or
lose
here's
our
number
three
back
to
the
general
fund
balance,
and
so
that
helps
us
in
in
several
different
ways
and
we're
happy
to
report
that
and
and
just
a
better
financial
position
for
the
town
debt
service?
How
do
we
do
we
brought
in
1905?
I
We
spent
1903
and
net
debt
service
fund
up
144
000,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
councilman
brown
asks
is
what
are
we
getting
for
our
money,
and
so
a
piece
of
that
is.
Is
that
we're
paying
down
our
debt
15
five?
And
we
can
be
celebrating
that
out
of
this
and
our
interest
rate
our
interest
payments
of
3.8
million
dollars?
It
shows
that
we're
the
interest
is
a
small
portion
of
our
principle,
which
I
think
is
very
very
favorable.
I
Stormwater
services:
how
did
we
do
there?
Bringing
in
5.1
million
dollars
spent
4.7
and
it
says
net
general
fund
activity
and
that's
my
mistake,
but
it's
really
net
storm
water
activity
360..
I
We
do
have
a
couple
more
entries
because
stormwater
is
presented
a
little
bit
different
than
our
normal
funds,
but
you
can
see
from
basic
operations,
there's
a
small
surplus
there
and
we're
not
really
looking
for
surplus
and
storm
water.
It
just
adds
to
the
capacity
of
what
we're
able
to
do
in
the
future,
and
so
these
funds
can
be
turned
around
and
redeployed
for
future
storm
water
projects.
I
I
A
I
I
Here
it
is
on
an
annual
basis.
2022
is
better
than
the
last
two
years
revenue
diversity.
This
helps
this
is
a
lot
to
read,
but
it's
a
four
year
look
at
the
same
revenues
that
we
have
been
looking
at,
just
as
our
representative
or
sample,
and
you
can
see
with
june
2020
at
the
start
of
coven.
Our
collections,
for
these
specific
runs
were
almost
a
million
dollars
less
than
the
previous
year.
I
If
you
look
at
june,
2021
significant
bounce
back
of
17
million
up
from
the
previous
year
from
68
to
86
and
so
june,
21
really
really
strong
numbers,
and
yet
we
turn
around
and
beat
that
again
in
june
2022,
so
to
go
from
a
minus
one
percent
to
a
plus
twenty
five
percent
and
then
on
top
of
that
twenty
five
percent,
a
fifteen
percent
increase
for
this
year.
Very
favorable.
I
If
you
look
at
this,
is
just
different
chart
for
the
same
thing,
but
certainly
shows
the
upward
trend,
and
I
absolutely
need
to
thank
our
revenue
services.
People
who
work
really
really
hard
to
collect
everything
that
the
town
is
owed
and
so
they've
done
a
great
job.
And
you
can
see
the
results
are
certainly
showing
on
the
books.
I
To
come
back
to
councilman
sanford's
question,
we've
talked
a
little
bit
about
this,
but
here's
our
budget
and
okay.
If
the
federal
reserve
has
purposely
tried
to
bring
us
toward
a
recession,
how
are
we
going
to
manage?
You
can
see
storm
water
utility?
I
think
we
would
probably
want
to
still
do
that,
because
that
helps
us
in
a
number
of
ways
that
service
we
have
to
pay
general
fund.
I
There
are
levers
that
we
can
do,
but
I
think
our
primary
level
would
be
in
the
capital
projects,
but
if
we
had
to,
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
benefit
to
moving
forward
a
lot
of
benefit.
I
would
view
the
capital
projects
as
investments
in
the
island
and
so
as
we
invest
and
we're
hopeful
that
it
encourages
other
people
to
invest
in
our
island
and
it
helps
everybody,
and
so
as
much
as
we
can
promote
that.
I,
I
think
that's
very
favorable.
I
How
are
we
going
to
summarize
this
revenues
were
strong
town
operations
were
in
budget
capital
plan
is
moving
forward.
We
added
to
general
fund
balance,
we
reduced
the
debt
and
one
of
the
things
you'll
see
in
the
fun
in
the
financial
statements.
I
didn't
talk
about
this,
but
for
the
capital
improvements
projects
as
they
move
forward,
we're
paying
cash
primarily
for
these
projects,
and
so
you
will
see
at
june
2022
an
increase
in
our
fund
balances
and
that's
temporarily
so
it's
we've
planned
22
million,
but
it's
really
24
or
25ish.
I
I
So
look
for
that
as
you
look
at
our
financial
statements
and
and
it's
very
purposeful
and
as
we
gain
fund
balance
in
those
different
funds
and
that
provides
for
our
cip
here
we
are,
and
so
what
else
can
we
look
forward?
We're
already
starting
2023?
I
We
will
seek
a
carry
forward
budget
amendment
coming
sometime
in
the
near
future,
just
to
continue
those
projects
that
were
already
approved.
We
want
to
further
invest
in
the
island
and
yeah
to
councilman
brown's
statements.
I
think
we're
going
to
change
our
emphasis
on
what
we
report
and
try
to
say
a
little
bit
more
about
the
value.
What
are
we
getting
for
our
tax
dollars?
And
I
think
that's
a
really
good
question
and
so
we'll
we'll
try
to
answer
it.
I
So
this
is
what
we're
going
to
continue
to
do
starting
up
and
we
are
yeah
we'll
we're
not
far
away
we'll
give
you
financial
statements
for
june.
Those
are
going
to
be
pre-closed,
but
it's
we're
right
about
at
the
time
that
we
would
put
together
our
information
for
the
auditors
and
then
let
the
auditors
work
on
it.
So.
I
I
I
I
did
want
to
say
one
item
before
we
get
on
to
that
is
that
we
have
communications
from
the
county
about
some
arpa
money.
That's
coming
in
the
amount
of
half
a
million
dollars,
and
so
mark
is
doing
a
little
bit
of
research
and
we'll
make
a
future
recommendation
on
how
how
he
would
propose
to
spend
those
county
funds.
Thank.
F
Mr
lennox,
your
town
of
hilton,
head
financial
update
report,
is
a
lie
in
criminal
fraud.
Where
is
the
overcharged
legal
fees
and
the
millions
handed
to
the
chamber?
Where
were
they
were
they
broken
out?
This
council
was
allowing
and
endorsing
the
the
hiring
of
green
finney
as
auditors
of
the
town
of
hilton
head,
led
by
town
manager,
orlando
lawyer,
gruber
both
caught
committing
illegal
acts
with
town
cpa,
john
troyer
and
lying
foster
and
chairman.
Yes,
you,
mr
lennox,
you
call
this
a
positive,
independent
audit.
This
could
not
be
further
from
the
truth.
F
This
is
not
an
external
and
an
independent
financial
audit.
It's
an
it's!
It's
an
it's
an
internal
audit
hired
by
the
town
crooks
and
paid
with
town
tax
funds
to
hide
and
cheat
taxpayers.
This
audit
only
shows
what
town
crooks
want
us
to
see.
Only
a
true,
independent
external
forensic
audit
shows
the
real
numbers
on
how
and
where
tax
funds
were
used
legally
illegally
and
wasted.
F
F
A
forensic
audit,
on
the
other
hand,
is
conducted
by
a
forensic
accounting
expert,
specifically
designed
to
uncover
fraud,
waste
embezzlement,
illegal
criminal
use
etc,
which
we
have
already
caught
the
town
officials
already
doing.
Mr
orlando,
do
you
cpa,
troyer
and
tom
lennox
agree
to
a
forensic
audit
today
right
now?
If
not,
why
not?
And
if
you
have
nothing
to
hide
which,
sadly
you
do
you
would
agree,
mr
lennox
fact
is
this:
entire
council
has
never
seen
the
accounting
prepared
by
john
troyer,
steve
riley,
and
now
the
insider
bluffton
crook
mark
orlando.