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From YouTube: Town Talk with Mayor McCann - Episode 2
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In this episode of Town Talk with Mayor McCann, guest Thomas C. Barnwell Jr. talks about the early years of Hilton Head Island.
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B
Well,
good
afternoon,
everybody
I'm
thrilled
to
have
as
our
first
guest
for
this
show
the
once
a
month
show
with
the
mayor,
thomas
barnwell,
jr
he's
a
very,
very
interesting
man.
Let
me
read
you
some
of
his
background
here.
He's
a
community
leader,
a
housing
developer,
public
health
advocate
veteran
historian
author.
B
B
Tom
has
worked
out
with
tom
for
a
while
in
the
gym.
Man
was
dedicated
to
his
workout
as
much
as
he
is
to
his
work.
I
mean
you
did
a
very
good
job
in
it
like
he
has
some
questions,
mr
baldwin,
okay.
C
C
I
am
very
humble
and
all
of
the
things
that
you
have
mentioned
that
I
have
done-
they
are
not
things
that
I
have
done
personally.
There
are
things
that
I
have
done
jointly
with
persons
from
the
community
and
what
really
inspired
me?
C
Your
basic
question,
my
mother,
was
born
on
hilton,
head
island
as
well
as
my
father
and
my
mother
was
a
trained
licensed
practical
nurse
that
came
back
to
hilton
head
to
provide
service
to
the
residents
of
hilton
head
island
long
before
the
bridge
was
even
thought
of,
and
she
had
very
little
to
work
with.
C
So
that
really
inspired
me
because
growing
up
when
she
had
patients,
she
delivered
babies
throughout
the
island.
She
was
one
of
several
midwives
and
I
would
drive
the
horse
in
the
wagon
as
a
young
boy
with
her,
and
she
would
talk
about
things
that
she
wish.
She
had
the
opportunity
to
have
to
give
a
greater
evaluation
of
the
patient
and
she
would
talk
about
things
like
hematocrit
and
I
said
well
mama.
What
is
that?
And
she
would
explain
that
to
me-
then
she
would
talk
about
other
levels
of
blood
work.
C
That
would
be
helpful,
and
so
those
were
very
inspiring
things.
B
C
It
was
fantastic,
mr
mayor,
we
relied
on
each
other
as
families
and
neighbors
and
friends,
and
we
work
together
in
all
aspects
of
life
growing
up
here
on
hilton
head.
C
Take
them
out
on
the
boat,
show
them
safety
skills,
where
the
best
fishing
drops
were
located,
how
to
secure
the
boat
when
it
when
you
came
back
in
from
fishing
and
and
and
and
also
we
got
tutored
by
the
older
persons
on
gun
safety,
because
when
we
were
growing
up
here,
we
we.
We
had
an
awful
lot
of
food
that
we
would
grow
on
the
farm.
B
C
I
had
the
opportunity,
as
a
young
person,
growing
up
on
the
island,
seeing
the
development
in
various
phases,
for
example,
when
the
ferry
operated
to
and
from
the
island
there
was
a
tea
and
an
farm
service
out
of
florida,
that
farm
tomatoes
on
hilton
head
island
to
a
great
extent
during
those
farming
years
they
concentrated
an
awful
lot
of
their
activities
in
the
seabrook
communities
so
growing
up.
C
I
had
the
opportunity
of
of
seeing
that
that
phase
and
after
that
I
had
the
opportunity
of-
and
I
worked
with
the
farm
during
the
summer
months
as
well
as
many
other
persons.
I
had
the
opportunity
of
working
also
with
the
development
aspect
of
sea
pines.
C
I
worked
for
sea
pines
for
50
cents,
an
hour
wow
doing
interior
declaration
work
with
the
consultants
who
got
the
contract.
Of
course,
doing
specific
things
hanging
pictures
putting
bed
heads
in
place,
things
of
that
type,
then
after
that
was
completed
it
would
I
was
they
would
approve
of
my
work.
My
work
status
was
approval
by
the
company,
so
I
got
an
opportunity
to
operate
a
skitter.
C
Burning
was
permitted
during
those
days,
so
I
I
I
did
some
of
that
and
it
was
very
interesting
to
see
the
change
from
the
quiet,
slow
pace
to
the
faster
moving
pace
of
development,
and
I
got
over
the
years
as
time
went
on,
got
an
opportunity
to
meet
charles
frazier
and
and
and
had
some
conversation
with
him.
C
So
he,
when
the
phone
would
ring,
he
would
have
to
leave
the
building
to
go
to
the
car.
To
answer
the
telephone.
That's
many.
B
Yes,
yes,
you
know
mr
frazier
built
good
part
of
the
island.
Then
it's
progressed
over
the
course
of
the
years.
Do
you
think
we've
missed
something
in
the
growth
of
the
island
I
mean,
did
we
leave
something
behind?
Do
we
do
we
make
it
too
big
at
one
time
or
you
know,
and
how
do
we
fit
into
the
workforce
housing
we
talk
about
today?
How
does
that
all
fit
in
to
the
sculpture,
who
we
are.
C
This
is
why
I
say
it's
going
to
take
more
than
5
10
15
20
minutes
to
talk
about
housing,
because
that's
that's
a
very
great
need.
When
you
start
looking
at
the
development
of
housing,
you
will
need
a
staff
that
have
no
disrespect
to
the
staff
that
that's
on
board
and
let
me
digress
for
a
moment
and
say
that
I
am
so
happy
and
pleased
to
have
to
have
had
from
the
beginning
of
mayor
ben
ricusen
to
now,
with
your
term
positive
working
relationship
with
the
staff.
C
B
Why
did
yourself,
and
so
many
of
the
people
here
that
I
know,
joined
the
air
force
and
go
away
for
a
while?
Why
not
the
navy,
the
army,
the
marines,
it
was
a
lot
of
years,
went
to
the
air
force
and
I
I
can
never
figure
that
connection
out.
But
was
there
any
reason
you
all
went
to
the
air
force
you
and
perry,
white
and.
C
C
To
puerto
rico
and
and
several
other
places
during
my
four
years
of
military
service,
but
I
spent
most
of
my
time
in
in
puerto
rico,
which
was
very,
very
fantastic
duties
and
I
enjoyed
it
and
the
specialty
area
I
was
in
dealt
with
b-36
airplanes
and
fire
service
and
and
in
security
of
of
the
b-36
airplanes
that
that
was
my
specialty
area.
C
No,
no
perry
perry
went
to
the
air
force
earlier
than
I
did
yeah,
but
but
we
were
both.
C
We
both
enjoyed
it.
He
was
in
in
an
administrative
area,
and
I
was
on
on
on
on
flight
flight
service
duties.
C
Well,
we
got
our
first
hospital
because
dr
peter
lamont
md
did
the
background
studies
and
had
a
team
that
he
worked
with
to
put
all
of
the
necessary
papers
together
for
what
was
called
then
the
health
systems
agency,
and
fortunately
he
discovered
that
he
and
his
committee
doing
their
research
discovered
that
I
had
a
board
position
on
the
health
systems
agency
and
at
that
time,
a
long
answer.
C
The
county
had
11
physicians,
including
dentists,
providing
services
for
buford
county
with
a
population
of
44,
1887
people
and,
of
course,
hilton
head,
then
had
a
population
of
a
little
over
2,
000,
eight
or
nine
hundred
residents
and
growing
with
the
potential
well
bottom
line
is
that
the
doctors,
medical
doctors
in
beaufort,
beaufort
city
proper,
did
not
really
want
the
hospital
to
be
built,
because
then
they
would
not
have
the
revenue
as
a
result
of
the
growing
population
of
hilton
head
that
they
did
have
as
a
result
of
medical
needs.
C
So
the
team
that
dr
lamont
put
together
came
to
me
shared
their
information
with
me,
and
I
I
agreed
with
with
the
analysis
and.
A
C
And
there
was
a
positive
need
so
therefore,
one
of
the
other
persons
that
I
was
very
familiar
with,
I
I
had
a
discussion
with
that
person
to
second
the
motion
that
I
would
make
at
the
health
systems
agency
board
meeting
and
I
met
with
other
board
members
by
phone
in
advance
to
secure
the
necessary
approval,
votes.
B
B
C
All
right,
well,
the
tabby
building
is
a
building
that
is
made
structurally.
C
Naturally,
it
have
does
have
wood
in
in
the
windows
and
the
in
the
door
ceiling
area,
and
it's
all
built
in
to
the
framework.
There
are
no
nails
to
hold
it.
There's
it's
pegged
in
it's
made
from
using
sand
cement,
all
types
of
shells
that
you
can
mention:
conch,
shell
ocean,
shell,
snail
shells
or
every
shell
that
you
can
mention
as
well
as
concrete
and
it
the
tabby
building
itself
had
deteriorated.
C
My
father
allowed
people
to
come
and
visit
and
they
would
take
whatever
it
took
to
chip
pieces
off
and
and
take
it
away,
long
story
short
and-
and
so
I
decided
in
2016
having
after
having
conversations
with
people
in
beaufort
restoration
persons
such
as
colin
booker
who's
an
architect.
C
He
is
a
special
architect.
His
specialty
is
restoring
tabbies
and,
and
he
traveled
from
south
carolina
to
places
in
the
caribbean,
puerto
rico
and
other
places
doing
just
that
and
with
him
the
person
that
does
the
physical
work
name
is
rick,
weidman
and,
and
he
is
a
specialist
he
is,
I
mean
superb
and
the
the
the
cost
of
of
restoring
the
tabby
was
enormous
amount.
So
we
started
in
with
phase
one
in
2009
and
we
completed
the
project
in
2018
and
we
discovered
after
the
project.
C
I
I
went
to
the
university
of
south
carolina
and
and
had
a
conversation
with
an
archaeologist,
dr
cavanaugh,
who
put
her
team
together
with
the
university
staff
members
that
that's
local,
as
well
as
persons
who
she
knew,
had
contacts
with
other
university
systems,
and
they
discovered
that
the
tabby
goes
back
to
the
1700s.
C
C
The
answer
is
yes,
I
would
love
very
much
for
and-
and
I
have
let
me
answer
that
in
part
again,
I
have
made
provisions
already
where
students
from
the
elementary
school
hilton
head
elementary
school
as
well
as
hilton,
head
middle
school,
have
visited
the
tabby
and
I'm
hoping
that
it
will
be
open,
but
there
are
specific
things
that
must
be
taken
care
of
prior
to
opening
it
to
the
public.
C
C
B
B
C
May
I
say
again
thank
you
personally,
mr
mayor,
not
only
you
thank
the
present
town
manager.
Thank
the
previous
town
manager,
thank
all
of
the
town
council,
thank
all
of
the
staff,
and
especially
thanks
to
the
first
councilman
dreesen,
thanks
to
mr
ferguson,
thanks
to
mr
grant
and
now
mr
brown,
and
I
thank
all
of
you
for
everything
that
you're
doing
to
continue
to
make
hilton
head
the
place
that
it
is
for
all
of.
B
Us
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Well,
I'm
excited
by
our
first
guest
today
and
I'm
sure
that
between
carolyn
and
myself
will
put
together
a
whole
host
of
great
guests
in
their
near
future.
This
island
is
loaded
with
people
of
great
interest
and
it's
time
to
bring
them
forward,
stay
tuned,
another
surprise,
guest
coming
up
next
month.
Thank
you
for
being
with
us
and
have
a
good
day.
A
A
It's
been
said,
the
only
constant
is
change,
and
that's
why
here
at
coastline,
we
want
to
make
you
aware
of
the
changes
that
take
place
in
beaufort,
county
and
the
cities
within
the
county.
We
hope
you'll
join
us
at
various
times
throughout
the
month
to
see
coastline
and
the
guests
that
we
bring.
That
will
tell
you
what
is
going
on
that
is
going
to
affect
you
day
to
day
that's
coastline
here
on
the
county
channel.