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A
B
A
Okay,
we
have
three
proclamations
tonight.
The
first
one
is
walk
and
bike
to
school
day,
which
is
going
to
be
read
by
council,
member
Robertson
and
I
understand.
We
have
some
students
and
their
families
in
the
in
the
room
tonight.
Can
you
raise
your
hand,
so
we
can
see
you
and
support
great.
Thank
you
for
being
here.
We
can
do
a
picture
when
we're
done
go
ahead.
Council,
member
Robertson,
all
right.
Thank.
E
And
whereas
this
year's,
Wok
and
Roll
event
is
coordinated
by
Bellevue
School
pool
a
collaboration
between
Bellevue
King,
County,
Metro
and
Bellevue
School
District
to
encourage
families
and
students
to
explore
sustainable
Transportation
options.
Now,
therefore,
on
behalf
of
Lynn
Robinson,
mayor
of
the
city
of
Bellevue
Washington
and
on
behalf
of
its
city
council,
do
hereby
Proclaim
October
12
2022
as
Bellevue
School
pool
Walk
and
Roll
to
school
day
and
encourage
everyone
to
consider
the
safety
and
health
of
children
traveling
to
and
from
school
today
and
every
day
sign,
Lynn
Robinson
great.
Let's.
A
H
And
whereas,
though
the
covid-19
pandemic
has
disproportionately
harmed
the
health
and
livelihoods
of
indigenous
people.
Native
communities,
Have
Been,
instrumental
in
connecting
people
with
vaccination
resources
and
information
boasting
some
of
the
highest
vaccination
rates
of
any
Ratio
or
ethnic
group
and
West.
The
city
of
Bellevue
is
committed
to
upholding
the
values
of
access,
Equity
inclusion
and
opportunities
for
local
and
Regional
Native,
Americans,
Alaska,
natives
native
Hawaiians
and
all
indigenous
communities.
H
A
Organ
is
for
critical
support
organizations
such
as
cisc
and
whereas
on
October
15
2022,
the
cisc
will
bring
community
members
together
for
an
anniversary
friendship
Gala
in
our
community
at
the
Westin
Bellevue.
Now,
therefore,
Eileen
Robinson,
mayor
of
the
city
of
Bellevue
Washington
and
on
behalf
of
its
city
council,
do
hereby
Proclaim
October
15
2022
as
Chinese
information
and
service
Center's,
50th
anniversary,
and
evoke
the
community
to
join
us
in
celebrating
their
anniversary
and
thanking
them
for
their
many
decades
of
assisting
community
members
and
fostering
a
welcoming
inclusive
environment
in
Bellevue
and
our
region.
I
I'm
executive
director
of
cisc
and
such
an
honor
to
be
here
thank
you
for
recognizing
cisc's,
50th
Anniversary.
It's
amazing
to
think
50
years
ago
in
1972
they
were
college
students
from
UW
and
and
youth
walking
around
and
seeing
the
need
and
now
we're
here,
five
decades
later,
serving
more
than
fifteen
thousand
immigrants
and
their
family
members
throughout
King
County
and
in
the
city
of
Bellevue.
I
You
mentioned
we
have
preschool
programs
after
school,
helping
people,
you
know,
gain
English
skills
becoming
a
U.S
citizen
serving
thousands
of
older
adults
to
help
them
thrive
in
their
own
homes
through
caregivers
and
other
kinds
of
Specialists,
and
we're
also
working
on
connecting
people
to
Health
Care
information
to
make
sure
they
have
access
to
all
the
various
programs
that
help
improve
and
strengthen
their
quality
of
life.
So
thank
you
again
for
that
recognition.
I
E
A
B
Five
speakers
this
evening,
mayor
and
before
I
start
calling
the
names
I'll.
Let
everyone
know
that
oral
Communications
is
for
a
period
of
no
more
than
30
minutes
and
each
figure
will
be
allowed
up
to
three
minutes
to
speak,
and
we
only
allow
one
speaker
or
three
speakers
per
side
of
any
one
particular
topic
and
with
that
I
will
call
our
first
Speaker,
who
I
believe
is
joining
us
virtually
and
that's
Liz
Walsh.
B
K
K
The
city
of
Bellevue
should
create
more
incentives
to
protect
and
retain
existing
significant
and
landmark
trees
and
make
it
more
difficult
to
remove
them.
Trees
are
obviously
beautiful
to
look
at,
but
they're
also
essential
for
iconic
native
species
like
bald
eagles.
They
provide
unparalleled
Cooling
in
a
warming
world
and
improve
air
quality.
More
than
almost
any
other
measure.
K
K
We
in
Bellevue
must
all
do
our
parts
to
meet
the
moment
alongside
our
neighboring
communities,
some
of
which
have
already
implemented
stronger
protections
for
their
trees.
If
development
Trends
continue
bellevue's
substantial
efforts
to
achieve
the
city's
goals
of
40
canopy
coverage,
which
I
think
is
currently
around
37
percent,
will
not
be
able
to
keep
up
with
the
pace
of
tree
removal.
K
Raising
the
costs
of
removing
significant
in
Landmark
trees
in
Bellevue,
along
with
providing
direct
incentives
to
retain
them,
will
drive
the
desired
outcomes
with
developers
and
landowners,
in
other
words,
Bellevue
should
make
it
the
easiest
thing
in
the
world
to
not
cut
down
a
tree.
In
conclusion,
I
asked
to
ask
the
city
council
to
please
continue
looking
for
ways
to
protect
the
longest
living
residents
of
Bellevue
and
to
support
measures
like
those
carefully
developed
by
trees
for
livability.
K
D
D
To
my
dismay,
maybe
a
year
or
two
ago,
I
had
a
new
neighbor,
and
this
neighbor
also
on
his
property,
had
some
20
30
trees
like
mine,
which
are
between
50
or
maybe
150
years
a
year
are
not
as
substantial
property.
L
Well,
good
evening,
you
all
I'm
Barb
Williams
I've
been
a
resident
of
Bellevue
for
38
years
and
I'm
an
educator
so
I'm
coming
at
this
topic
as
an
educator
just
to
let
you
know,
I
have
taught
at
the
Pacific
Science
Center
and
manage
the
school
programs
at
the
Bellevue
Botanical
Garden,
a
wonderful
job
loved.
It
was
education
coordinator
for
the
East,
Side,
Heritage,
Center
and
presently
I'm
leading
tree
tours
for
the
tree
ambassador
program,
a
fun
program
anyway.
I
want
to
extend
my
hearty
thanks
to
The
Visionaries
of
Bellevue
for
preserving
Parklands
over
time.
L
Thank
you
because
these
Parklands
contribute
much
to
our
wellness
and
quality
of
life.
My
purpose
as
an
educator
is
to
ask
the
city
of
Bellevue
to
help
acquire
a
property.
The
12-acre
Isola
site
opposite
the
red
Town
Trailhead
on
the
west
side
of
Lakemont
Boulevard.
This
space
is
unique.
Why?
Because
it
has
historic
significance
and
is
an
educational
gem
as
an
outdoor
classroom.
L
L
What
better
way
for
students
to
experience
firsthand
this
history
than
to
visit
the
local
area,
where
remnants
of
the
coal
mining
days
still
exist.
This
is
unique.
I
have
a
complimentary
copy
of
the
this
of
this
book.
For
you
all
and
I
hope
you
learned
something
new
and
enjoy
the
book.
I
will
leave
it
here
when
I
go.
It's
wonderful.
L
This
property
is
a
perfect
location
for
an
outdoor
classroom.
The
adjoining
Bellevue
and
King
County
Parklands
are
primarily
forested,
so
a
Meadow
Land
such
as
this
would
provide
a
whole
new
habitat
experience.
Local
Meadowlands
are
disappearing.
So
why
not
preserve
a
few
for
educational
and
recreational
purposes?
L
The
meadow
at
Lewis,
Creek
Park,
is
lovely,
but
Steep
and
not
Ada
accessible.
The
Isola
property
is
relatively
flat.
Land
and
Ada
accessible
Loop
would
make
the
experience
possible
for
people
of
all
ages
and
abilities.
A
parking
lot
could
be
built
to
accommodate
buses
carrying
up
to
65
students.
The
present
Norm.
B
B
B
L
B
M
Awesome
good
evening,
mayor
Robinson,
Deputy,
Mayor
new
in
house,
council
members
and
staff
Chris
Randalls,
testifying
on
behalf
of
complete
streets,
Bellevue
and
the
battlefield,
the
Bellevue
housing
research
coalition.
M
Best
practices
were
used
to
ensure
the
polls
surveyed
a
selection
of
bellevue's
residents
that
was
demographically,
geographically
and
socio-economically
representative.
What
we
found
is
that
there
is
a
broad
community
support
for
the
work
that
Council
has
directed
staff
to
undertake.
51
percent
of
City
residents,
support,
removing
barriers
to
the
construction
of
microorganisms
79
of
residents,
support,
lowering
the
cost
of
permit
fees
for
affordable
housing
projects
and
80
4-5
supported,
reducing
permitting
turnaround
time
for
housing
projects.
M
These
numbers
indicate
that
there
is
strong
Community
backing
for
the
actions
that
Council
has
authorized,
and
our
Coalition
sincerely
appreciates
the
leadership
in
advancing
these
proposals
forward.
Our
poll
findings,
some
of
which
have
been
published
in
Seattle
Times,
and
the
Bellevue
reporter
contained
many
other
helpful
insights
that
we
hope
will
guide
your
decision
making
going
forward.
M
As
you
continue
to
examine
policies
to
further
address
our
housing
shortage,
we
are
looking
forward
to
continuing
our
conversations
with
council
members
and
staff
about
our
group's
findings
and
our
Coalition
acknowledges
that
we
still
have
a
long
way
to
go
to
addressing
bellevue's,
affordable
housing
crisis,
but
we
are
happy
to
take
this
moment
to
stop
and
appreciate
all
the
work
being
done
on
these
important
steps.
Thank
you
very
much
have
a
great
evening.
G
G
We
were
this
dirty
Jew
who
opened
bad
Jew
who
up
in
a
good
America,
yes
and
I'm,
proud
of
this
for
many
years
so
situation.
What
else
we
have
right
now
is
Seattle
in
country
very
critical
and
very
interesting
a
few
years
ago.
Seattle
change
this
day
to
indigenous
day,
and
for
me
this
is
absolutely
duotic
situation.
G
G
So
I
try
right
now
speak
to
everybody
who
listened
to
me.
There's
only
one
chance
bring
America
back,
stopping
the
Seattle
degenerate
idiot,
seven
hundred
thousand
seven
hundred
fifty
thousand
idiot.
You
know
what
this
mean
doing
something.
What
is
by
definition,
absurd?
Is
this
exactly
what
has
happened?
It's
a
pure
Fascism
and
I.
Give
you
classic
example:
what's
happened?
It's
not
about
12
trespasses.
What
is
I
come
from
cow.
Come
from
golf
come
from
Seattle
to
me
for
for
four
years,
I
cannot
go
and
speak
last
week
in
October
4
in
Jewish
holidays.
G
They
give
me
trespass
for
one
month
problem
Waters.
We
have
right
now
so
critical,
so
I
I
don't
understand
how
this
possible
so
console.
President
Seattle
Consul
president
Deborah
Juarez
is
a
mentally
sick
person
elect
be
a
president
only
because
she's
belonged
to
Native
American
50
percentage,
only
50
percentage,
Mexican
I,
don't
understand
what
is
mineralism
fascism
like
people
who
stupid
mentally
sick.
If
you
cannot
come
to
council
Chamber
from
May
for
six
months,
she
only
speak
from
from
the
sky,
so
I
speak
right
now
to
everybody
who
feel
American.
It's
not
about
color.
G
B
A
N
N
The
this
award
recognizes
outstanding
efforts
by
local
governments
to
create
vibrant
and
livable
communities
by
achieving
the
goals
of
the
growth
management
Act.
So
joining
us
tonight
is
Andrew
singalakis,
director
of
the
transportation
department
and
our
guest
Valerie
Smith
Deputy
managing
director
at
the
Washington
State
Department
of
Commerce
and
I
will
turn
it
over
to
Andrew.
Okay,.
O
Well,
thank
you:
Deputy
city
manager,
Carlson,
mayor
Robinson,
Deputy,
May,
Newman
house
and
members
of
the
council
San
mentioned.
We
are
here
to
receive
an
award
for
the
mobility
implementation
plan,
an
Innovative
approach
to
multimodal
transportation
and
this
award
is
from
the
governor,
smart
communities
award
I'd
like
to
remind
you
that
this
is
the
second
award
that
we
ended
up
receiving
for
the
mobility
implementation
plan.
O
The
last
one
was
from
psrc
earlier
in
the
year
and
with
me
is
Valerie
Smith,
the
deputy
managing
director
of
growth
services
at
the
Washington
State
Department
of
Commerce,
but
before
I
turn
it
over
to
her.
I
would
like
to
acknowledge
that
we
have
Karen
stash
the
chair
of
the
Transportation
Commission
with
us
tonight,
Kevin
McDonald,
who
is
the
project
manager
for
the
MIP
and
then
also
policy,
even
as
the
assistant
director
of
transportation
and
and
I
believe,
there's
a
photo
up
after
this,
but
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Valerie.
P
Okay,
thank
you.
So
much.
Can
you
hear
me?
Okay,
yes,
great
good
evening,
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
present
this
award
today
on
behalf
of
Governor
Jay
Inslee
and
commerce.
Direct
Commerce,
director,
Lisa
Brown
I
am
pleased
to
present
this
smart
communities
project
award
to
the
city
of
Bellevue.
P
P
P
Also
noteworthy
was
the
excellent
public
Outreach
efforts
by
staff
and
teams
to
get
this
project
out
into
the
public
for
feedback
and
information
sessions.
This
included
included
a
series
of
study
sessions,
an
accessible
web
page
and
the
community
questionnaire
that
received
over
500
responses,
very
impressive
so
to
the
city
of
Bellevue,
mayor,
Robinson,
council
members
and
the
city's
Transportation
Commissioners.
P
Thank
you
thank
you
for
committing
to
committing
to
strengthening
our
communities
in
the
Washington
State
and
a
special
thank
you
to
staff
that
shepherded
this
project
through
and
providing
technical
assistance
and
dedication
to
consistency
with
the
growth
management
Act
on
behalf
of
Governor
Inslee
I.
Thank
you
again
for
your
hard
work.
Innovation
an
amazing
model
for
planning
for
future
growth,
development
and
Redevelopment
in
communities.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
A
A
Okay,
let's,
let's
see
we
have
three
study
session
items
tonight,
the
first
one's
my
favorite
topic,
so
Deputy
city
manager.
Would
you
like
to
introduce
it.
N
Thank
you
study
session
tonight
is
an
informational
update
for
Council.
It
will
be
on
the
progress
of
the
affordable
housing
strategy.
Implementation
and
staff
will
also
provide
a
look
forward
to
upcoming
planning
and
implementation
work
related
to
housing
joining
us
this
evening
are
Emil
King
planning
director
and
with
the
Community
Development,
and
also
Linda
Abe,
our
new,
affordable
housing
manager.
So
with
that,
I
will
turn
it
over
to
a
meal.
Q
Hi,
thank
you
for
the
introduction,
Deputy
city
manager,
Carlson
and
good
evening.
I'm,
mayor,
Deputy,
Mayor
and
members
of
council
tonight
is
our
semi-annual
update
on
the
implementation
of
the
affordable
housing
strategy.
Housing
continues
to
be
one
of
the
key
issues:
we're
dedicating
significant
staff
time
and
resources
too.
Right
now,
on
behalf
of
the
the
larger
staff
team
that
continues
to
work
on
these
issues
will
be
providing
an
update
on
our
progress.
Q
We
continue
to
gain
momentum
with
our
efforts
and
we'll
be
able
to
highlight
many
of
the
successes
that
we've
accomplished
over
the
past
six
months.
I'd
like
to
First
do
a
formal
introduction
to
Council
of
Linda
Abe
she's,
our
new,
affordable
housing
program
manager
in
the
Community
Development
Department.
It's
a
very
tight
job
market
out
there.
So
we're
really
happy
to
have
Linda
joining
the
city.
R
Well,
good
evening,
mayor
Robinson,
Deputy,
Mayor,
new
in-house
and
members
of
the
council
has
email
mentioned.
I
actually
have
had
an
opportunity
to
work
with
some
with
you
with
you
with
the
what's
that
at
AECOM,
when
I
was
working
on
that
cross-cultural
Center
feasibility
study
and
also
as
a
real
estate
developer
with
Sioux
development.
Here
in
Bellevue,
I
appreciate
the
warm
welcome
and
support
that
I've
received
since
I
started
working
here
in
August
and
I'm.
E
Q
Q
Tonight
we're
going
to
be
covering
how
we're
doing
on
the
actions
and
the
affordable
housing
Target
from
the
2017
strategy.
We're
going
to
go
into
a
bit
of
detail
on
how
we've
been
achieving
progress
on
the
2017
to
the
2027
Target,
that
is
in
process
and
there's
still
quite
a
bit
more
to
do
in
the
remaining
five
years.
R
We
are
now
a
few
months
beyond
the
halfway
point,
since
the
launch
of
the
affordable
housing
strategy
in
2017.,
the
actions
taken
to
date
have
achieved
approximately
two
thousand
72
units
of
new
and
preserved
units,
including
beds
with
806
units
in
the
pipeline.
This
confirms
the
actions
and
strategies
that
have
been
implemented
to
date
have
helped
deliver
affordable
units
on
track
with
our
initial
projections
note
that
the
old
Target
of
2500
units
will
potentially
be
updated
with
the
new
housing
needs
assessment
that
will
be
completed
at
the
end
of
this
month.
R
R
Consistent
with
all
residential
development,
the
work
needed
for
producing
units
is
embedded
within
the
framework
that
planning
and
zoning
facilitates.
This
table
shows
action,
items
that
are
a
combination
of
ongoing
work
to
implement,
affordable
housing
and
discrete
policy
or
code
actions
in
the
following.
Slides,
email
and
I
will
provide
an
update
to
the
comp
plan,
periodic
update,
State,
Regional
planning,
the
C1
Phase
2
program,
the
housing
stability
program
and
the
multi-family
tax
exemption
program.
Q
I'm
going
to
go
and
do
a
bit
of
detail
on
some
of
the
major
efforts
that
we're
working
on
right
now,
just
so
the
council
and
public
can
understand
the
the
breadth
of
work
that
we're
doing
so.
The
big
effort
right
now
that
we
have
a
number
of
Staff
working
on
and
a
lot
of
interest
in
the
community
is
the
comprehensive
plan
periodic
update
the
the
project
is
well
underway.
Q
We
have
a
whole
host
of
Consultants
working
on
this,
we're
ready
to
do
the
environmental
impact
statement
and
we
had
a
significant
Milestone
just
in
the
past
week
and
a
half
of
issuing
the
scoping
notice
for
the
environmental
impact
statement.
So
we
have
a
30-day
window
where
stakeholders
and
the
community
can
offer
up
insights
into
the
range
of
options
that
we'll
be
looking
at.
The
environmental
review
process
is
a
really
important
process
where
we
can
step
back
and
look
at
a
range
of
different
housing
options
for
the
city.
Q
The
idea
of
looking
at
significant,
missing
middle
typologies
in
the
city,
as
well
as
looking
for
additional
housing
capacity
in
our
Urban
centers
is
a
is
a
key
thing.
That's
part
of
this
there's
also
discussion
of
homeless
homelessness
and
the
relationship
to
our
approach
to
housing
and
Human
Services
and
in
a
as
we
kind
of
go
out
into
the
community.
We're
getting
a
lot
of
interest
in
this
update,
and
it
is
something
that
the
council
and
Community
are
saying
we're
doing
bold
actions
as
part
of
this
body
of
work.
Q
The
next
area
I
want
to
highlight
is
our
state
and
Regional
planning
work
just
for
context.
We
have
about
66
000
units
in
the
city
right
now,
and
our
minimum
housing
Target
through
the
King
County
process
was
to
add
a
minimum
of
35
000
new
housing
units.
Through
our
our
work
with
the
council,
our
Eis
is
going
to
look
at
adding
substantial,
more
capacity
potentially
above
and
beyond
that.
Q
So
the
Eis
does
provide
us
a
great
opportunity
to
go,
look
and
see
what
the
benefits
and
impacts
of
doing
that
might
be
over
the
next
20-year
period
as
we're
working
with
the
the
State
Department
of
Commerce
in
King
County
on
our
affordable
housing
needs
there
there's
a
heightened
process,
that's
happening
in
this
comp
plan
of
data,
as
opposed
to
the
updates
we've
done
10
and
20
years
ago.
So
as
we
refine
our
local
needs
assessment
we'll
be
doing
that
in
context
of
both
these
State
and
Regional.
Q
I
want
to
give
an
update
on
the
the
C1
phase.
Two
work
as
well
as
Council
remembers.
The
phase
one
work
did
allow
for
a
50
density,
bonus
for
faith-based
properties,
non-profit
and
Public
Surplus
properties
who
are
interested
in
doing
affordable
housing.
The
phase
two
process
is
looking
at
about
30
sites
that
are
faith-based
in
single-family
zones
for
consideration
of
multi-family
zoning,
and
these
would
need
to
be
100,
affordable,
frequent
Transit
proximity
to
multi-family
or
commercial
zoning.
Q
The
Planning
Commission
just
recently
held
their
public
hearing
and
did
a
recommendation
that
will
be
sent
along
to
the
the
city
council
in
the
November
time
frame.
We're
already
getting
interest
in
the
phase
one
density
bonus
and
we're
also
getting
some
interest
in
the
phase
two
density
bonus
as
well.
So
that's
positive
that
we're
doing
actions
that
people
are
going
to
use.
R
R
As
we
look
forward
to
year,
two
of
the
housing
stability
program,
the
city
has
received
multiple
applications
for
the
current
RFP
for
Behavioral
Health
and
related
Services,
as
well
as
for
the
capital
RFP.
A
team
of
interdepartmental
Staff
will
work
with
Arch
a
regional
Coalition
for
housing
to
review
the
applications
with
the
goal
of
providing
funding
recommendations
to
Council
on
the
first
quarter
of
2023.
R
In
terms
of
our
multi-family
tax
exemption
program,
we
are
still
seeing
quite
a
bit
of
use
since
continuing
to
perform
well.
This
is
evidenced
by
the
147
affordable
units
achieved
through
this
program.
Since
the
update
we
have
nearly
300
potential
mfte
units
that
are
expected
to
apply
in
the
next
year
or
so
representing
projects
that
are
likely
to
be
completed
over
the
next
two
to
three
years.
R
Q
So
I'm
going
to
be
moving
on
to
the
discussion
of
the
next
right
work,
and
this
was
the
process
that
we
undertook
back
in
the
early
spring
and
summer
to
identify
what
should
be
the
next
right
work
to
go
on
beyond
the
2017,
affordable
housing
strategy.
In
July
of
this
year,
we
did
receive
direction
from
Council
to
move
forward
with
three
items
directly
to
launch
and
those
included
the
removing
the
barriers
to
the
micro
Apartments,
which
you'll
be
hearing
in
study
session
right
after
this
presentation,
and
then
staff
is
readying.
Q
And
then
the
last
part
of
the
council
Direction
was
to
conduct
scoping
for
two
additional
actions
and
those
were
streamlining
the
permitting
process
and
Expediting
permitting
for
affordable
housing,
and
the
last
one
was
to
look
at
allowing
middle
scale.
Housing
types,
including
detached
adus
attached
dwelling
units,
duplex,
Triplex
quadplexes,
so
we'll
be
reporting
back
to
Council
on
those
two
items
on
our
progress
of
the
scoping
in
the
December
time
frame
as
well.
Q
A
You
okay,
thank
you
for
that
presentation.
I
just
want
to
remind
Council
that
our
next
study
session
item
tonight
is
about
micro,
housing.
So
save
your
comments
and
questions
for
that
conversation,
but
council,
member
Stokes
was
mayor
Stokes
when
we
voted
in
our
affordable
housing
strategy,
so
I'm
going
to
start
with
you.
Okay,
thank.
C
You
mayor
this
is
this
is
really
very
exciting
when
I
first
read
this
and
you
read
the
package,
what
we're
doing
now,
I
thought.
Okay,
first,
was
it's
great
we're
talking
about
this?
It's
been
five
years.
2017
as
I
like
to
say,
is
another
world,
and
what
is
really
exciting
and
going
forward
is
what
you
have
done
this
this
in
this
last
year,
particularly
this
year
of
looking
at
for
the
next
right
work
and
realizing
that
we
can
celebrate
2050
new
units.
C
But
that's
you
know
that's
five
years
ago
that
was
a
lot.
It's
not
very
much
now,
you're
really
focusing
and
going
forward.
So,
what's
exciting
that
and
then
Council
council,
member
Lynn,
Robinson
and
I
and
and
Michael
cottaman,
who
was
here
working
with
that
we
all
and
and
a
lot
of
staff
and
other
council
members,
all
we
work
together
and
that's
what's
the
great
thing
about
it
and
it's
exciting
to
see
where
you're
proposing
to
go
now
and
the
challenge
has
just
gotten
much
much
more.
C
But
we
we've
learned
a
lot
and
I
really
appreciate
the
fact
that
we're
we're
increasing
staff
work,
increasing
the
approaches
we
take
and
actually
I.
Think
given
the
program
we're
working
on
and
we're
going
to
talk,
you
know
talk
about
it
later
and
where
we
go
next,
but
we're
going
to
have
to
do
so
much
more.
The
good
news
is,
we
know
how
to
do
it
now,
much
more
than
we
did
five
years
ago
and
I
think
the
community
has
is
more
responsive,
both
the
people.
C
You
know
our
constituents,
as
well
as
the
businesses
and
other
groups,
so
we're
getting
in
a
really
kind
of
a
sweet
spot
for
this,
for
a
city
to
be
able
to
really
meet
the
needs
and
what
you're
lining
out
now
and
what
we're
working
on
going
forward
is
I
think
we
can
get
there.
You
know
it's
like
the
little
train
they
could.
We
think
we
can.
We
think
we
can
I
loved
that
when
I
was
a
kid
well,
I
guess
that's
why
I
got
into
trains
and
I
think
we're
going
there.
C
E
Really
happy
to
have
you
on
board
really
excited
to
have
you
doing
this
work
with
us?
You
know
exciting
is
exactly
the
word
councilmember
Stokes
said
this
is
really
exciting.
It's
exactly
the
word
that
I
wrote
down
on
my
paper.
I'm
really
excited
to
see
the
progress.
E
E
I
also
wanted
to
thank
staff
for
all
the
hard
work
on
this
and
our
stakeholders.
The
Chamber
of
Commerce
in
particular,
really
helped
make
the
mft
program
better
and
that
is
paying
off
so
much
so
I
think
that,
as
we
continue
to
gather
stakeholders
as
we
do,
this
work
we're
going
to
end
up
with
a
better
product
that
is
more
effective,
so
I
think
that's
great,
and
then
just
one
comment
just
to
give
my
colleagues
a
heads
up
here
and
give
a
suggestion
to
staff
about
the
C1
phase
two.
E
That
is
a
compound
amendment
that
is
coming
forward
to
counsel
this
cycle
before
the
end
of
the
year.
I'm
not
sure
when
it's
coming
I
was
at
the
Planning
Commission
for
the
public
hearing.
The
public
was
infused
a
little
bit
about
what
it
means
and
they
were
about
two-thirds
one-third
against
so
two-thirds
against
one-third
in
favor
of
that
and
I
think
that
it
was
because
they
didn't
really
know
what
it
meant,
and
so
I
I
explained
to
the
public.
E
That
was
there
that
the
compound
Amendment
just
sets
the
table
for
getting
the
details
in
the
land
use
code.
I'm
I'm,
supportive
of
the
comp
plan
Amendment,
but
I
I
wanted
to
make
the
comment
so
that
the
public
who's
listening
the
details
and
the
confusion
that
people
have
about
that
will
be
addressed
with
public
input
next
year.
When
we
do
the
land
use
code.
E
So
assuming
Council
passes
that
comp
plan
Amendment,
that's
when
all
the
details
will
come
out
and
that's
when
the
public
who
have
concerns
about
that
or
are
really
excited
about
it
want
to
see
it.
Work
really
well
should
get
involved.
So
my
my
ask
of
staff
is
that,
as
that
compound
Amendment
comes
forward
to
council,
to
make
it
really
clear
in
both
presenting
to
council
and
in
the
materials
the
public
is
looking
at,
what
it
is
and
what
it
isn't,
because
I
think
that
we
will
go
from
two-thirds
one-third
to
ninety
percent
in
favor.
E
F
All
right,
thank
you,
mayor.
Thanks
for
the
update,
email
and
Linda,
just
a
couple
of
questions,
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
that
housing
needs
assessment,
but
I
was
curious
about
how
we
might
reconcile
any
differences
in
need
from
that
versus
the
growth
targets
that
we've
already
talked
about.
So
if
there's
a
difference
in
terms
of
let's
say
there
are
more
that
come
out
of
the
housing
needs.
F
How
would
we
recommend
all
that
and
then
a
second
comment
last
question:
is
it
looked
like
preservation
of
existing,
affordable
housing
produce
the
most
unit
from
the
table,
so
I
was
curious
about
how
we
might
are
we
going
after
it
additional
opportunities
to
preserve,
affordable
housing
or
just
what
the
opportunities
there
are
thanks.
Q
For
those
questions,
councilmember
Barksdale
I
can
briefly
address
those
as
far
as
the
growth
targets
and
the
affordable
housing
needs
that
are
being
done
at
the
at
the
state
and
county
level.
We
are
definitely
looking
at
that
information
that
is
getting
fed
into
our
regional
planning
efforts.
We're
we're
able,
at
the
city
level,
to
get
into
a
little
bit
more
detail
about
the
specific
needs
of
our
community.
Q
So
as
we
continue
that
technical
work,
both
at
the
King
County
level
and
City
level,
we'll
be
able
to
report
back
to
our
elected
officials
who
represent
us
on
those
different
bodies
as
well
as
when
we
report
back
to
council
about
any
reconciliation
of
numbers
that
might
be
different
in
those
two
technical
analysis.
As
far
as
preservation,
the
the
last
five
years
have
had
a
quite
a
bit
of
preservation
and
those
have
been
really
good
opportunities
for
the
the
city
to
pursue.
Q
You
have
typically,
naturally
occurring
affordable
housing
that
may
not
have
covenants
on
it
that
we're
able
to
protect
for
the
long
term.
So
our
leverage
rate
on
being
able
to
maximize
our
investment
has
been
quite
high
on
those
on
those
Partnerships,
so
I
think
we're
going
to
see
continuing
more
preservation
opportunities,
as
well
as
on
new
development
as
well.
F
Okay,
so
just
to
clarify
any
any
reconciliation,
we'll
we'll
discuss
that
as
a
council
when
it.
If,
if
what
comes
out
of
that
and
then
in
terms
of
the
preservation,
are
we
actively
looking
for
opportunities
or
is
that
just
something
that
we
sort
of
wait
to
see
what
happened
with
you
know
some
of
the
units
in
the
city.
Q
As
far
as
the
the
reconciliation
we
have,
the
the
mayor
and
Deputy
Mayor
do
represent
us
on
some
Regional
planning
bodies.
So
we
do
work
with
our
Representatives
as
we
work
through
the
both
the
state
and
County
processes,
and
this
this
work
is
part
of
our
periodic
Plan
update,
so
we're
happy
to
include
materials
as
we
update
Council
in
the
December
January
time
frame
about
how
we're
doing
on
our
periodic
update,
with
updates
to
the
full
Council.
Q
As
far
as
preservation
the
in
the
past
years,
we've
been
more
opportunistic
in
being
able
to
partner
with
others
on
preservation,
especially
when
we've
been
putting
money
in
the
housing
stability
program.
1590
program
is
going
to
afford
US
a
bigger
opportunity
in
the
future
to
perhaps
proactively
go,
seek
out
preservation,
opportunities
that
might
be
us
alone
or
with
Partners
out
there.
So
I
think
there's
a
growing
role
for
the
city,
potentially
in
the
future.
Looking
at
preservation
opportunities.
J
You
mayor
again
welcome
and
thank
you
for
being
so
immediately
engaged
with
the
community
as
well.
As
you
see
some
of
those
emails
flying
back
and
forth
from
community
members.
Looking
for
more
information
about
affordable
housing,
so
and
I
agree
with
my
my
colleague,
councilmember
Robertson
there.
There
is
a
little
bit
of
confusion
as
as
a
for
me
at
least
what
I've
heard
from
residents,
at
least
as
it
relates
to
Faith
properties,
so
I
think
that's
a
good
FYI.
J
That
I
think
we
need
to
do
a
little
bit
more
education
or
Outreach,
and
exactly
what
that
means
and
who's
eligible
and
who
is
not
so
but
in
terms
of
the
presentation,
fantastic
as
what's
already
been
said,
exciting
in
in
terms
of
the
the
next
right
work
in
terms
of
the
overall
strategy,
the
number
of
units
that
we're
creating,
hopefully
preserving
I,
think
councilmember
Barksdale
is
his
question.
Is:
is
a
good
one
I'd
like
to
make
sure
that
you
know
as
exciting
as
new
units
are
preserving?
J
What
we
have
as
well
is
just
equally
as
important
so
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
we've
been
reactive
when
an
opportunity
comes
along,
but
certainly
having
an
ongoing
program
where
we
look
to
intentionally
and
be
proactive
about
maintaining
those
those
units
is,
is
equally
important
but
and
love
the
update
on
the
mft
program,
which
continues
to
go
in
the
right
direction
for
us,
which
is
really
exciting
to
see
and
I
think
you're
right
on
point
here
in
terms
of
the
next
right
work
and
I
appreciate
the
you
know
the
the
real
clear
targeting
of
the
of
the
council
priorities
on
this.
J
S
Yes,
thank
you
mayor
and
thank
you.
Emil
and
Linda
I'm,
so
excited
Linda
to
have
your
voice
on
staff
and
working
with
you
on
this
I
echo.
My
colleagues
I
think
that
having
this
affordable
housing
strategy
and
getting
me
update
is
really
important
and
I'm
gonna
say
triple
down
on
council
member
barksdale's
comment
about
preservation
and
just
making
sure
that,
while
we're,
we
have
our
eye
on
building
new,
that
we're
not
losing
ground
and
to
the
degree
we
can
be
more
proactive
on
preservation,
that'll
be
even
more
important.
S
I
did
have
a
couple
of
questions,
and
that
is
that
I
think
in
one
of
the
slides.
We
talk
about
homelessness
and
tie
to
housing
and
Human
Services
and
I
notice
in
our
packet
the
table
on
page
two,
we
are
categorizing
shelter,
beds
from
cfh
and
Mary's
Place,
the
90
rooms
as
less
than
30
Ami,
affordable
housing.
So
I
just
wanted
to
better
understand
whether
that's
how
we're
defining
shelter
beds
that
as
affordable
housing,
because
I'm
not
sure
that
that
characterization
is,
is
what
we
want
to
be
counting
those
as
and
then.
S
My
other
comment
is,
although
I'm
excited
to
see
the
pipeline
growing
I
see
that
we're
only
about
10
of
the
units
is
less
than
30
Ami,
which
then
leads
to
the
comments
that
have
been
made
previously
by
councilman
Barksdale
about
the
the
local
housing
needs,
assessment
and
I'm,
actually
particularly
interested
in
the
timing
of
getting
that
information,
because,
if
we're
seeing
the
pipeline
not
specifically
bringing
in
more
housing
at
the
less
than
30
percent,
is
that
really
going
to
meet
our
housing
needs
assessment?
You've
mentioned
December
January?
S
S
Can
you
clarify
whether
that
is
the
amount
of
budget
that
we
have
or
is
that
the
amount
of
applications
we've
received
so
far,
because
I
do
think
that
the
1590
money
is
one
way
that
if
there
is
sufficient
requests
and
proposals
that
we
had
talked
about
being
able
to
bond
against
future
revenues
to
move
even
faster,
with
being
able
to
have
more
affordable
housing?
So
those
are
my
questions
excited
that
we're
getting
going
with
the
next
right
work
and
and
moving
even
faster.
Thank
you.
Q
I
can
go
ahead
and
briefly
answer
those
questions
for
council
members
on
as
far
as
the
the
permanent
men's
shelter
and
the
Mary's
place,
we
do
have
those
included
in
our
tally
in
the
memo.
We
did
separate
that
out.
So
it's
clear
for
the
council
and
the
public
to
see
where
we're
putting
those
it
in
our
updated
needs,
assessment
and
targets
that
we'll
be
working
with
Council
over
the
coming
months.
Q
We
can
figure
out
if
we
want
to
have
those
as
a
separate
category
for
our
Target,
but
in
the
2017
strategy
they
were
included
in
the
whole
body
of
affordable
housing
umbrellas.
So
that's
why
they're
part
of
that
2500
at
least
looking
backwards.
Looking
forwards,
we
can
take
a
different
approach
if
the
majority
Council
would
like
to
do
that.
Q
The
local
needs
assessment,
where
we've
engaged
our
consultant
assistance
on
that
we
have
a
staff
team,
that's
working
with
the
consultant
to
get
the
background,
information
and
we'll
be
starting
to
get
some
actual
work
that
we
can
give
feedback
to
the
consultant
on
in
the
coming
weeks.
On
that
project,
the
county
effort
does
have
some
Milestone
meetings
over
the
next
couple
months.
So
as
the
county
process
moves
along
and
our
local
process
moves
along,
we'll
figure
out
how
we
can
get
Council
updates
on
those
those
companion,
complementary
processes
that
we
have
for
local
needs.
Q
It
is
for
not
just
bill
of
you,
but
but
also
all
cities
in
the
state
and
the
county
and
then
lastly,
the
the
10.5
million
that
we
advertised
as
part
of
the
the
capital
and
operating
RFP
was
the
amount
the
up-to
amount
that
we
had
available.
So,
as
Linda
mentioned,
we
are
going
to
be
looking
at
the
applications
that
we
got
in
and
we'll
be
reporting
back
to
Council
in
q1
of
next
year
about
the
staff
recommendation
on
how
to
use
either
a
portion
or
all
of
that
money.
We
at
that
time.
S
Well,
that's
great
I
know,
I
know
that
the
first
round
we
didn't
get
very
many
proposals,
so
hopefully
we're
able
to
engage
with
the
development
community
and
are
able
to
see
more
of
that.
Thank
you
very
much.
H
I'm
jealous
How
Could,
my
virtual
colleagues
look
and
prominently
than
we
do
anyway.
That's
beside
the
point,
thanks
for
the
represent
presentation,
I
think
it's
a
lot
of
good
information.
You
basically
reinforce
in
our
thinking
that
you
know
we
are
doing
the
right
thing.
We
are
on
target.
You
know
your
customer
of
2500
units
I'm,
very
confident
that
we're
going
to
be
that
and
so
we're
on
the
right
track.
However,
because
we're
moving
in
the
right
direction,
doing
it
well,
one
of
the
you
know,
I
mean
everything.
H
We're
doing
seems
to
be
very
well
done.
We
got
you
know
good
people
joining
us,
because
we're
successful
and
I
think
the
market,
the
developers,
you
know
the
private
partners
are
very
supportive,
we're
in
the
right
on
the
right
track,
so
obviously
the
better
we
do
the
more
we
want
to
do
so
because
the
need
is
out
there
until
we
reach
the
goal.
You
know
we
have
to
continue.
However,
you
know
my
concern
is
I
want
to
make
a
point
that
we
are
learning
from
you.
H
You
know
briefings
and
talking
to
you
and-
and
we
are
represented-
you
know
by
our
colleagues
in
the
regional
committees-
do
we
know
what's
going
on,
but
even
as
we
talk
as
we
breathed,
you
know,
I
personally,
I,
don't
know
about
my
colleagues.
I
I,
don't
know
everything.
That's
going
on,
you
know,
I
mean
I
can
keep
track
of
all
this.
It's
a
very
important
big
topic.
You
know
we're
talking
about
affordable
housing,
but
it's
housing,
yes,
and
what
is
Affordable
and
I.
Think
so.
H
I
believe
that
it's
important
that
we
talk
to
the
public
we
reach
out
to
the
public.
We
do
our
public
Outreach
very
important
as
we
go
forward
the
more
we
do,
the
more
we
succeed.
Even
now.
You
know
we
need
to
bring
them
on
board,
it's
a
public
process
and
yeah
people
don't
know
what
they
don't
know
and
by
the
time
they
find
out.
You
know,
they'll
be
questioning
they'll,
be
asking
us
and
we
have
to
know
what
it
is
and
I
think
we
are
again
we
can,
but
they
need
to
be
on
board.
H
So
I
really
want
to
emphasize
that
it's
very
complicated,
very
complex.
We
do
the
best
we
can.
However,
you
know
I'm
understanding,
I
know
for
sure
a
big
percentage
of
the
community
don't
know
they
know
we
do
offer
the
policy,
but
what
is
affordable
housing?
How
are
you
doing
it
all
the
details,
we're
talking
about
all
the
change
will
incorporating
because
we're
moving
forward
as
we
do
more,
we
need
to
engage
them
so
that
they
can
understand
Digest.
H
So,
even
as
we
do,
we
know
do
well.
That's
the
most
important
thing.
I
think
councilman
Robertson
mentioned
that
right.
You
know
we
do
the
comp
plan.
We
have
many
ways
to
understand
to
approve
to
move
the
next
step.
All
these
things
need
to
be
informed
to
be
to
the
public.
As
we
do,
the
you
know:
micro
apartment,
inclusionary,
housing.
You
know
religious
properties.
All
these
people
are
saying
gee.
What
are
we
doing
with
our
zoning,
what
they
were
doing
with
our
housing
Co?
H
A
Okay,
we're
going
to
emphasize
that
emphasize.
Thank
you.
The
public
education
I
appreciate
that
I
will
just
say:
Linda
I'm,
so
glad
you're
on
board.
We
always
think
Bellevue
has
the
most
amazing
staff,
and
here
we
go
that
we
get
you.
A
So
when
we
set
that
goal,
we
felt
it
was
very
low
and
we
knew
we
could
surpass
it.
It
wasn't
not
a
limitation
and
so
I'm
grateful
that
we
are
actually
going
to
surpass
that
goal
and
I
hope
that
we
can
reset
and
and
come
up
with
something
a
little
more
ambitious
that
reflects
the
tremendous
growth
that
the
city
is
experiencing.
A
A
C
Sure,
okay,
real
quickly,
yes
and
Linda,
I
didn't
welcome
you
personally,
so
I'm
really
I'm
adding
to
everybody
else.
It's
really
exciting
one
thing
I
wanted
to
highlight
now
and
it's
a
thing
we
need
to
memorialize
and
think
about
is
Highland
Village,
and
that
was
the
start
of
this,
and-
and
we
worked
all
together
on
that-
and
that
was
the
successful
thing
and
again
that's
where
we
kind
of
learned
our
our
ropes
on
this
and
so
I
still
have
a
little
thing
up
from
the
community
on
that.
C
But
you
know
thanks
to
the
city
and
it's
just
great:
we
need
to
keep
that
in
mind.
We
can't
do
it.
We
did
it
with
that
and
we're
going
to
do
great
things.
So
thanks
very
much
and
I
think
we
had
a
good
conversation
here
and
I
appreciate.
You
know
councilmember
Lee's,
mentioning
about
and
others
about,
the
communicating
with
the
community.
We
need
to
do
that.
We
need
to
keep
working
on
that
and
do
a
better
job.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Highland.
A
N
Thank
you
mayor.
Our
next
item,
one
that
you
referenced
earlier,
is
one
that
responds
to
action
B1
in
the
affordable
housing
strategy,
and
that
is
removing
barriers.
Micro,
Apartments
staff
are
seeking
Council
direction
to
initiate
and
direct
the
Planning
Commission
to
process
a
land
use
code,
amendment
that
would
enable
and
encourage
micro
apartments
in
Bellevue
joining
us.
This
evening
are
Liz
stead.
Interim
co-director
for
development
services
and
Nick
Whipple
planning
manager
and
Matthew
Menard
senior
planner
for
development
services
and
I
will
turn
it
over
to
Liz
to
kick
off
the
presentation.
T
Thank
you
good
evening,
mayor
Robinson,
council
members.
Thank
you
for
having
us
here
tonight
to
continue
the
conversation
that
our
friends
at
Community
Development
started
this
evening
around
the
affordable
housing
strategy,
so
we're
here
tonight
to
talk
about
micro
apartments
and
to
look
at
initiating
a
work
item
to
move
barriers
to
providing
those
in
the
city.
This
is
consistent
with
the
work
that
was
directed
July
5th
by
Council
for
the
affordable
housing
strategy
and
our
next
right
work,
and
we
do
have
two
other
items
which
I
know
Mr
King
mentioned.
T
We
will
be
bringing
back
in
the
next
couple
of
months,
so
this
is
our
first
shot
out
of
the
gate
and
we're
very
excited
to
be
here
tonight
and
starting
this
work.
We
do.
We
have
had
interest
from
the
public
at
times
on
this
topic
from
different
developers
and
such
so
I
think
it's
a
good
timing
and
it's
very
a
ripe
conversation
for
this
evening,
so
I'm
going
to
pass
it
off
to
Nick,
Whipple
and
Matthew
Menard
from
development
services
to
start
the
presentation.
Thank
you.
U
Great
thank
you
Liz
and
good
evening,
mayor
Robinson,
Deputy
Mayor
new
in
house.
I
am
attempting
to
advance
the
slides
here,
and
here
we
go
so
as
Liz
mentioned,
we
are
seeking
direction
from
the
council
tonight
to
initiate
this
land
use
code,
Amendment
and
direct
the
Planning
Commission
to
process
this
code,
amendment
that
would
ultimately
enable
the
construction
of
micro
apartments
in
the
city
of
Bellevue.
U
So
for
our
agenda
this
evening,
we
wanted
to
take
some
time
to
just
explain
what
a
micro
apartment
is
also
lay
out
some
of
the
objectives
for
this
land
use
code.
Amendment
we'll
cover
what
we
are
proposing
as
the
scope
for
the
Planning
Commission,
and
then
talk
about
our
engagement
process
that
we
are
planning
for
this
and
then
at
the
Lucas
schedule
for
this
item
as
well.
U
So
to
begin
with
what
is
a
micro
apartment,
micro
Apartments?
They
are
an
important
housing
type
that
allows
for
individuals
of
modest
incomes,
the
ability
to
live
in
Bellevue,
often
near
work
or
near
School
micro
Apartments.
They
do
not
have
a
standard
definition,
but
a
micro
apartment
is
really
akin
to
a
small
Studio
or
loft
apartment.
They're.
U
They
do
provide
a
lower
cost
option
for
people
coming
to
our
city.
The
smaller
size
does
lead
to
lower
costs.
Generally,
the
the
rent
is
between
900
to
1500
a
month
is
what
we're
seeing
right
now
in
the
market,
so
that
falls
into
the
price
range
of
about
40
to
70
percent
Ami
for
Studio
housing
in
King
County.
U
So
the
appeal
of
micro
Apartments
is
largely
about
economics,
but
there
is,
of
course,
a
place
in
privacy.
They
weigh
into
that
equation
as
well
and
with
that
they
are
well
suited
for
students
and
young
professionals,
people
that
are
in
transition.
As
well
as
retirees.
U
So
a
few
examples,
these
units
are
it's
a
couple
examples,
one
from
Redmond
and
one
from
Seattle
and
really
the
appearance
of
micro.
Apartments
is
much
like
that
of
a
traditional
apartment,
building
with
the
same
scale
and
massing
that
you
would
see
for
other
multi-family
type
developments
in
the
city.
Some
locations
of
micro
units
are
within
mixed
buildings,
so
you'll
have
some
two-bedroom
one-bedroom
studio
and
micro
all
in
one
building,
and
we
also
have
an
example
of
an
interior
micro
apartment.
This
is
the
Dockside
apartments
at
Green
Lake
in
Seattle.
U
U
It
most
directly
relates
to
action
B1,
which
is
to
encourage
micro
apartments,
around
Light
Rail
stations
through
actions
such
as
reduced
parking
requirements
and
then,
as
mentioned
earlier
council's
discussion
on
July
5th.
This
item
was
directed
under
the
next
right
work,
specifically
to
remove
barriers
to
micro
Apartments.
U
So
what
the
Luca
will
aim
to
do
is
remove
barriers
to
the
construction
of
micro
Apartments.
So
we
have
currently
few
micro
apartments
that
exist
in
the
city.
It's
really
important
to
note
that
we
do
not
have
a
Prohibition
on
micro
Apartments,
but
often
some
of
our
requirements
make
it
so
that
it's
not
an
attractive
or
feasible
construction
type
in
the
city.
U
The
example
of
residential
amenities
that
we're
thinking
about
includes
multi-family
play
areas
as
an
example.
So,
in
that
previous
slide
we
mentioned
the
target
demographics.
For
this,
it
typically
does
not
include
families
so
having
a
multi-family
play.
Area
may
not
be
as
compatible
with
this
housing
type.
So
those
are
the
types
of
items
that
we'd
have
the
Planning
Commission
take
a
look
at
so
with
that
I
will
have
Matthew
Menard
walk
us
through
the
proposed
scope
for
this
land
use
code.
Amendment
thanks.
V
Nick
and
good
evening,
mayor
Robinson,
Deputy
Vernier
in
house
and
members
of
council,
as
Nick
noted
I,
will
start
with
the
scope
of
the
Luca.
Again.
To
reiterate,
the
objective
is
to
remove
barriers
to
micro
Apartments
within
the
city,
so
the
first
step
is
defining
what
a
micro
apartment
is
and
generally
with
that,
you
would
set
a
size
limitation
on
the
maximum
size
of
a
micro
apartment.
V
The
second
step
is
ensuring
that
micro
apartments
are
accessible
to
all
people
who
would
like
to
live
in
them.
This
includes
ADA
requirements
and
items
such
as
that
and
then
exploring
and
updating
the
code
in
relation
to
what
Nick
was
talking
about
so
parking
limits
or
parking
requirements,
density
limits
and
those
amenity
requirements.
Things
like
playgrounds,
ground
floor,
active
uses
items
like
that.
V
The
proposed
Geographic
scope
is
all
mixed-use
land
use
districts
within
the
city
that
allow
for
both
commercial
and
multi-family
development.
There
are
a
few
mixed-use
districts
within
the
city
that
allow
for
commercial
and
single-family
development.
Only
we
would
not
be
proposing
that
for
these
areas
and
I
should
know
we
should.
We
are
not
proposing
this
for
areas
that
do
not
allow
for
commercial
development,
so
it
would
not
be
proposed
in
single-family
neighborhoods
or
only
multi-family
neighborhoods
as
well.
V
The
goal
of
that
is
to
remove
these
barriers
to
micro
apartments
in
those
mixed
use
areas
that
multi-family
is
already
allowed.
So
this
being
a
similar
and
compatible
development,
type
to
that
multi-family
housing
and
as
micro
Apartments
often
cater
to
people
who
may
not
have
a
car
as
they
have
limited
parking.
We
like
to
place
those
in
vicinities
to
service
and
Transit
and
any
day-to-day
needs
they
may
have.
You
can
see
on
the
map
there.
V
The
the
pink
areas
shown
on
the
map
are
the
proposed
scope
and
the
dashed
line
are
those
areas
within
the
city
that
are
served
by
high
frequency
Transit.
So
that's
four
stops
per
hour
with,
hopefully,
with
the
end
goal
being
promoting
more
housing
choices
within
the
city,
consistent
with
the
affordable
housing
strategy
and
potentially
a
more
ecologically
friendly
housing
and
transportation
system.
V
V
We
are
also
planning
for
direct
engagement
that
includes
engaging
with
micro
apartment
developers,
some
affordable
housing
developers,
micro
apartment
residents,
our
local
community
here,
and
we're
hoping
to
do
that
through
one-on-ones
stakeholder
meetings
and
potentially
an
open
house
to
make
sure
that
everyone
is,
is
well
informed
of
what
we're
doing
throughout
the
process.
We'll
also
have
a
web
page
to
make
sure
that
the
citizens
of
Bellevue
can
know
who
to
reach
out
to
to
gather
information
on
this
project.
V
The
process,
if
you
do
choose
to
launch
this
evening,
we
are
planning
to
hold
Planning
Commission
study
sessions,
Q4
and
q1
of
or
Q4
of
this
year
in
q1
of
2023
holding
the
public
hearing,
hopefully
around
q1
of
2023
for
the
Planning
Commission
and
then
moving
it
on
to
council
with
study
sessions
in
q1
and
aiming
for
adoption
around
Q2
of
2023.
A
S
Great
thank
you
mayor
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
I'm
really
excited
to
see
this
work,
move
forward,
I
think,
as
I
mentioned,
you
know
being
an
immigrant
from
Hong
Kong,
where
the
units
are
significantly
smaller
and
we
know
that
there
are
a
lot
of
immigrants
into
our
community.
Give
being
able
to
have
this
housing
choice
will
be
really
important.
The
thing
that
I
was
thinking
about
in
your
presentation
was
the
comment
that
currently
there's
not
a
Prohibition
to
micro
housing.
S
So
really
understanding
then,
and
I
appreciate
the
way
that
you
describe
what
are
then
the
barriers
to
getting
the
housing,
the
micro
housing
and
maybe
similar
to
mfte
that
you
know
what
are
the
kind
of
barriers
to
getting
that
done.
You
talked
about
the
higher
cost
per
square
foot
of
these
units
because
of
the
having
a
bathroom
and
a
fully
built
up
kitchen.
S
So
I
guess
one
of
my
questions
is
as
you
look
at
this
work.
Is
it
possible
to
look
at
different
types
of
kitchen
Arrangements,
all
the
way
from
a
full
kitchen
to
something
maybe
slightly
less,
because
I'm
not
sure
that
maybe
for
every
one
of
these
units
it
always
makes
sense
for
us
to
dictate
it
being
a
full
kitchen?
So
that's
actually
one
of
my
questions
and
then
the
second
one
is
I
think
you
also
mentioned
that
at
the
900
to
the
fifteen
hundred
dollars,
it
equates
up
to
about
40
to
70
percent
Ami.
S
So
my
question
is,
you
know:
can
we
think
about
as
this
part
of
this
work?
What
would
the
amenities
look
like
if
we
were
trying
to
get
to
a
30
Ami
for
any
of
these
units
so
that
they
start
to
also
be
able
to
serve
the
30
Ami
community?
So
anyway,
those
were
some
of
my
questions.
I
do
really
appreciate
and
like
the
idea
of
that,
these
micro
units
would
be
mixed
in
with
other
housing
sizes
within
a
building.
S
T
Amazon
regarding
the
kitchen
issue,
I'm
going
to
have
Nick
address
that
we
have
talked
about
that
a
little
bit,
so
he
will
have
some
and
in
terms
of
mixing
the
units
in
that
would
certainly
be
part
of
our.
Our
goal
is
to
provide
an
opportunity
for
them
to
be
one
piece
of
all
of
the
different
unit
sizes
in
a
project
as
it
is
as
it
is
put
forward
right
now,
we
could
have
a
full,
a
full
building.
That
is
just
the
micro
units.
You
know
with
the
code.
T
U
Sure
so,
thank
you,
council
members
on
for
the
question
around
the
the
idea
of
communal
space,
where
you
might
have
a
shared
kitchen
or
perhaps
a
shared
bathroom
area.
The
land
use
code
currently
does
allow
for
those
types
of
living
arrangements.
U
We
have
group
quarters
that
are
permitted
by
the
land
use
code
group
quarters
do
include
dormitories,
they
also
include
congregate,
housing,
and
so
that
is
something
that
that
is
available
in
the
land
use
code
today,
that's
something
that
we
can
certainly
have
the
Planning
Commission
take
a
look
at
and
consider
whether
our
current
definitions
are
meeting
our
needs.
If
that's
the
the
will
of
the
council,
we
can.
We
can
definitely
include
that
in
the
scope.
A
Thank
you.
So
how?
How
do
you
want
to
get
consensus
on
what
we
recommend
to
the
Planning
Commission?
Are
you
going
to
come
back
to
us
at
another
time
and
we'll
have
these
discussions
or
do
you
want
some
kind
of
a
consensus
tonight,
or
is
this
just
something
we're
asking
the
Planning
Commission
to
consider.
A
Because
that's
what
we're
doing
tonight
is
we
are
deciding
whether
to
advance
us
to
the
Planning
Commission
or
not.
So
if
we
can
bring
things
that
we'd
like
the
Planning
Commission
to
consider
and
if
you
like,
council
member
zahn's
recommendations,
please
mention
that
in
your
comments,
okay,
Deputy
Demir
thank.
J
You
mayor
great
presentation,
thank
you
and
anytime.
We
talk
about
streamlining
the
permitting
process,
removing
barriers
I'm
in
so
thanks,
so
much
for
for
bringing
this
forward
and
I'm
in
favor
of
moving
this
forward
to
the
Planning
Commission.
I
think
this
is
a
good
work
that
we
need
to
do
a
couple
of
questions,
and
these
questions
can
also
be
interpreted
things
that
you
know
would
also
like
the,
where
appropriate,
the
Planning
Commission
to
to
think
about
as
well.
J
So
first
question
is
I'm
just
curious
about,
since
we
just
mentioned
here
that
you
know
technically,
there's
no
barrier
to
to
developers
doing
micro
apartments
right
now.
So
what
is
the
appetite
out
there
right
now
from
developers
to
create
these
type
of
units?
J
I'm
really
just
interested
in
what
we
might
expect
in
terms
of
overall
inventory
of
these
type
of
of
units?
Maybe
within
I
don't
know
the
first
couple
of
years
or
first
five
years,
you
know
I
know
one
developer.
That
has
a
strong
interest
in
in
in
in
in
this
area,
but
outside
of
that
I'm
not
sure
what
we
can
expect
in
terms
of
adding
this
type
of
affordable
housing
to
our
overall
inventory
and
then
also
this
speaking
of
that
I.
J
Think
it's
really
important
not
for
us
to
necessarily
get
in
the
get
in
the
weeds
here,
but
I
think
really
talking
to
those
developers
that
specialize
in
these
types
of
micro
Apartments
to
find
out
what
works
best
and
I
think
you
had
mentioned
that
in
your
comments
already
about
discussing
with
stakeholders.
But
you
know
be
it.
You
know
a
full
kitchen,
half
kitchen
whatever,
let's,
let's
really,
let's,
let's
really
make
use
of
the
expertise
of
those
developers
that
have
built
in
other
cities
and
successfully
I
want
to
make
sure
make
sure
we.
J
We
take
a
look
at
that
and
then
finally,
I
wanted
to
ask
a
question
just
about
the
overall
Outreach
to
the
potentially
impacted
neighborhoods
and
just
primarily
around
parking,
because
as
much
as
we
want
and
encourage
folks
to
use,
transit
or
public
transportation
fact
of
the
matter
is
a
lot
of
them
will
still
have
cars
and
we'll
need
a
car
in
order
to
get
to
their
job
or
family.
Or
what
have
you?
So?
J
A
Okay,
councilmember
Barksdale.
J
Could
answer
my
questions
first
or
answer.
A
U
Can
yeah?
We
can
briefly
respond
just
on
some
of
the
questions
around
demand
so
for
micro
housing
they
are
or
not
common,
but
they
are,
they
do
occur
on
the
east
side,
so
Kirkland
and
Redmond
are
some
examples
where
we
are
seeing
micro
housing
developments
spring
up,
and
so,
of
course,
Seattle
has
a
longer
history
with
micro
Apartments.
But
we
are
starting
to
see
those
emerge
on
the
east
side
as
well
and
in
terms
of
what
the
affordable
housing
strategy
estimates
I
mean.
U
This
is
the
2017
strategy,
but
it
did
estimate
between
100
and
200
units
being
created
through
this
action.
So
it's
it's
difficult
to
say:
I,
guess
how
we
might
meet
that
Target
or
exceed
that
Target
without
knowing
fully
what
the
barriers
are
that
we're
planning
to
address
through
this
update
I
mean
we
will
certainly
continue
talking
with
the
development
Community,
as
well
as
our
our
neighboring
cities,
on
what
they've
found
as
some
of
those
successes
and
challenges
and
and
extra
sensitive
to
any
sort
of
impacts
that
might
occur
around
neighborhoods.
U
The
geographic
scope
is
trying
to
get
ahead
of
that
a
bit
with
allowing
these
only
in
our
mixed
use
areas
so
trying
to
locate
those
proximate
to
Transit
as
well
as
jobs
and
services.
So
you
are
really
making
it
easier
for
people
to
make
the
choice
not
to
drive
their
vehicles,
but
that
is
something
that
will
certainly
be
paying
close
attention
to
as
we
move
this
through
the
Planning
Commission
great.
Thank
you.
Yes,
okay.
F
All
right,
thank
you.
Thanks
for
the
presentation,
just
a
few
questions
here,
I
think
that
one
or
a
couple
may
build
on
what's
already
been
raised,
I'm
curious
about
the
the
size
and
sort
of
what
the
smallest
size,
whether
we
which,
whether
we
should
have
a
minimum
size
I,
know
we're
trying
to
reduce
barriers,
but
thinking
about
it
from
also
the
resident.
Is
there
a
size?
F
That's
too
small
and
then
also
I
appreciate
it
comment,
I,
think
Council
member's
honored
about
the
amenities
and
getting
to
30,
Ami
and
I'm
curious
about
what
that
right.
Mix
of
amenities
might
be
as
well
again
from
the
residence
perspective,
especially
if
we're
targeting
some
of
our
Tech
workers,
who
are
just
starting
their
careers
or
retail
workers
and
so
forth.
F
I
mean
curious
about
how
important
that
is
for
them
to
have
their
own
kitchen
and
bathroom
so
and
then
the
last
piece
is
well
two
piece:
two
parts:
is
it
possible
to
have
affordable
units
or
incentivized,
affordable
units
as
part
of
these,
so
I
I
also
like
the
idea
of
maybe
mixing
it
in
I'm,
also
fine,
with
it
being
a
complete
building
in
and
of
itself,
but
curious,
either
way,
if
there's
an
opportunity
to
build
an
affordable
unit
and
I,
guess:
I,
guess
that's
it
30
as
well,
and
then,
lastly,
how
are
they
performing
in
other
cities
and
I'm
really
thinking
about
if
this
is
sort
of
a
an
alternative
to
a
studio?
A
U
So
in
in
terms
of
the
size
limitation,
we
were
focused
on
a
on
a
maximum
size
area
for
micro
units,
for
what
is
the
smallest
size,
the
building
code
does
have
a
lot
of
direction
as
to
what
the
the
minimum
could
be
set
at.
That
may
not
factor
in
some
of
the
baby
livability
aspects
that
you
might
be
looking
to
address
council
member
Park
still
through
that
comment.
U
But
that
is
something
if,
if
the
council
wishes,
we
can
have
the
Planning
Commission
take
a
look
at
to
what
a
minimum
might
be
and
then
for
the
the
incentive
for
affordable.
We
will
be
looking
at
that
as
well.
The
the
multi-family
tax
exemption
program
does
offer
units
that
are
less
than
400
square
feet.
To
take
advantage
of
that
program.
The
Ami
level
is
at
a
deeper
affordability.
U
A
Am
I,
would
it
bring
the
cost
down
to
if
it
were
to
have
use
the
mft.
V
So
the
mft
program
requires
that
if
the
unit
is
under
400
square
feet,
I
believe
that
it
meets
a
45
Ami
threshold
and.
U
So
where
we
were
finding
the
the
rents
to
be
for
a
micro
unit,
this
was
looking
at
some
examples
that
were
in
the
300
square
foot
range,
the
market
rate
for
those
were
between
900
and
1500,
so
that
was
not
having
those
as
income
restricted
units.
And
so,
if
you
were
to
have
them
as
mfte
units,
then
they
would
be
income
restricted
and
the
45
Ami
would
be
the
the
the
requirement
here
in
the
city.
Okay,
so
those
would
be
set
down.
Then
at
45
gotcha.
F
Said
and
I
guess
just
to
follow
up
on
the
do.
We
have
any
idea
about
how
they're
performing
in
other
cities
over
time
in
terms
of
like
are
we
seeing
the
cost
like
when
they
start
they're
low,
but
then
the
cost
increasing.
So
what
was
the
studio
price
and
just
kind
of
getting
trying
to
get
a
sense
of
how
they're
performing.
V
Is
based
on
sort
of
preliminary
research,
it
looks
like
they're
sort
of
following
the
same
market
trends
as
say
a
studio
apartment
but
they're
staying
that
Gap
seems
to
be
remaining
the
same
from
what
I
saw
this
morning.
There's
apartments
or
micro
units
built
in
Seattle
in
2012
that
were
renting
for
about
500
a
month,
so
they
seem
to
be
increasing
at
that
same
rate
as
the
market.
V
There's
an
article
last
week
in
the
Seattle
Times,
where
there's
a
few
buildings
for
sale,
and
there
is
a
concern
with
that
that,
with
a
new
buyer,
they
may
substantially
increase
the
rent.
So
it's
hard
to
get
solid
information
on
exactly
what's
happening
and
there's
a
lot
of
flux.
It
seems
in
the
market.
F
Got
it
thank
you,
yeah
I
think
it
sort
of
reinforces
the
need
to
look
into
the
possibility
of
having
the
opportunity
to
have
affordable
housing
is
part
of
this
for
this
work,
and
then,
yes,
you
hit
the
nail
on
the
head
with
the
question
about
the
livability
aspect
of
sides,
as
opposed
to
just
the
building
code
minimum
size.
Thank
you.
E
Great
discussion,
so
you
want
us
to
weigh
in
on
the
scope
it's
on
slide,
eight
and
as
far
as
what
we're
sending
to
the
Planning,
Commission
and
I
just
support
that
proposed
scope.
I,
think
that
all
of
the
comments
from
my
colleagues
that
have
been
made
prior
to
my
speaking
are
all
fall
within
those
General
descriptions
and
I
do
support
looking
at
minimum
size.
E
Looking
at
the
mix
of
units
looking
at
kitchenettes
versus
full
kitchens,
I
think
that
all
looking
at
how
these
impact,
if
it's
just
going
to
make
Studios
cost
more
or
these
will
just
come
up
to
the
prices,
Studios
I,
definitely
support.
Looking
at
the
play
areas.
I
think
that's
something
we
should
be
looking
at
for
multi-family
housing
city-wide,
because
that
was
a
an
amenity
that
was
really
more
of
a
Suburban
type
amenity
that
doesn't
really
belong.
E
It
may
belong
in
some
portions
of
the
city,
but
it
doesn't
necessarily
belong
in
our
high
density
growth
areas
of
the
city,
so
so
I'd
strongly
support.
Looking
I
know,
I
heard
that
someone
it
wasn't
on
the
slides,
but
I
heard
I.
Think
Nick
say
that
the
Ada
issue,
looking
at
that
picture
of
the
unit
on
Slide
Five,
where
there's
the
Loft
it's
a
ladder
and
you're
saying
retirees-
are
going
to
live
there.
I'm
thinking
really
you
know,
but
my
96
year
old
father.
E
No,
no
so
I
think
that
making
sure
that
there's
anyone
in
a
wheelchair
I
mean
it
could
be
a
real
problem
so
making
sure
that
these
are
Ada
accessible
or
at
least
there's
some
in
the
building
that
have
that
accessibility,
I
think,
is
really
important
because
we
don't
want
to
make
if
this
is
a
type
of
housing
that
is
beneficial
to
people
and
desirable
by
people.
We
don't
want
to
make
it
only
desirable
for
able-bodied
people,
so
I
I
think
we
should
definitely
look
at
that.
E
I
do
have
a
question
about
the
geographic
scope.
On
page
nine
of
the
slideshow,
the
pink
areas
are
the
mixed
use
and
the
dotted
line
area
which
looks
like
someone's
intestines.
Can
you
pull
that
slide
up?
Is
sorry
I've
been
looking
at
this
hold
on.
E
Yeah
there
you
go
so
yeah
I
mean
and
the
and
the
transit
areas
which
look
like
someone's
intestines
is
what
it
looks
good
to
me
right,
I
mean
Bellevue
is
the
body
so
look,
those
are
the
high
capacity
Transit
corridors.
So
on
the
geographic?
Sorry,
it's
you
know
it's
I'm,
tired.
So
the
is.
Are
we
only
looking
at
this
in
places
that
are
both
within
the
dotted
lines
and
pink.
E
Okay,
my
personal
preference
is
that
it
have
to
be
in
both
areas
because
there
are
ones
like
Newport
Hills.
This
will
not
work
there,
there's
not
regular
Transit
there,
there's
not
service,
there's,
not
much
in
the
way
of
services.
There
same
thing
with
Lakemont
Village
I
mean
it's,
it's
I.
Just
don't
think
these
will
work,
except
in
the
dense
growth
corridors
where
we
have
high
capacity,
Transit
and
mixed
use.
E
So
my
personal
preference
is
that
we
have
the
geographic
scope,
be
where
these
two
scoping
Geographic
scoping
things
overlap
because
I
think
that
that's
where
these
would
be
most
appropriate.
So
that's
my
that's
my
comment.
I,
don't
know
if
anyone
else
why.
E
Giving
direction
tonight
so
that
would
be
my
recommendation.
So
finally,
on
Outreach
I
agree
with
Deputy
Mayor
about
making
sure
we
Outreach
to
people
that
will
be
living
near
these
areas
and
then
looking
because
the
mft
at
45
percent
could
give
someone
give
a
developer
multi-family
tax
exemption
credit
for
what
is
essentially
a
market
rate
unit,
because
you
said
the
market
rate
is
40
to
70
percent
and
I.
E
Think
that's
fine
I
mean
if
it's
if
it
keeps
it
at
45
percent,
but
I
think
that
if
we
see
these
being
developed,
when
we
have
some
in
the
pipeline,
we
should
seriously
look
at
using
some
of
the
1590
money
to
buy
down
affordability
for
this
type
of
housing
unit,
because
this
is
one
of
the
ones
one
of
the
types
of
housing
units
that
could
be
very
affordable
to
a
a
someone
who's.
E
Just
getting
into
has
the
you
know,
early
job
they're
just
getting
started
in
their
career
or
they're
on
a
fixed
income,
and
it
could
be
really
appropriate
to
help
fund
this
kind
of
housing.
So
I
know
that's
27
steps
down
the
road
I
always
am
looking
ahead.
So
that's
not
for
the
Planning
Commission,
that's
for
staffs
first
day
of
Sears,
but
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
focused
as
housing.
E
Projects
of
all
types
come
on
board
at
looking
at
where
we
could
potentially
use
some
of
that
money
to
get
deeper
affordability
at
a
cheaper
price.
So
anyway,
that
being
said,
I'm
all
for
moving
this
forward
and
but
would
like
to
see
the
geographic
scope
appropriately
scoped.
Thank
you.
Councilmember.
A
H
Good
conversation
about
this
well
I'm,
going
to
say,
probably,
would
update
me
I've
been
here
since
yeah,
1950s
and
I've
lived
in
Seattle
most
of
my
time
and
what
you're
describing
actually
it's
already
in
Seattle,
so
I
think
I
kind
of
voice
council
member
Zan's
question:
what
does
the
city's
code
do
to
prevent
this
kind
of
stuff
from
happening
to
me?
I
think
you
know
two
examples.
Someone
mentioned
to
you:
one
is
at
University
District
the
roaming
houses
for
students,
their
room
houses
anywhere.
H
You
can
go
from
four
four
units
for
four
students
to
20
students
to
40
students.
It's
almost
like
a
dormitory.
Each
student
has
a
roomy
house
and
have
common
utilities,
common
Kitchen,
coming
laundry
Commons
shower,
you
know
baths
and
so
on,
and
they
paid
a
lot
less.
You
know
less
endometrory
because
it's
not
run
by
University.
H
The
magnet
is
not
as
good
it's
all
over
University
District,
but
because
of
the
lack
of
space
and
there's
a
lot
more
money
made
by
building
apartments.
You
know
so
people
make
more
money,
building
apartments,
selling
them
renting
them
for
more
money,
a
lot
more
amenities.
But
let's
do
there
still
there
so
I,
don't
know
how
they
build
this
or
how?
What
kind
of
code
do
they.
H
A
H
You're,
looking,
you
must
think
about
the
other
one.
They
also
have
what
they
call
housing
housekeeping
units.
It's
a
it's
very
similar
to
a
studio
apartment
very
much,
so
they
have
a
one
one
room,
basically
sleeping
room,
a
sleeping
area
and
they
have
a
kitchen
kitchen
area
and
then
there's
a
separate
bathroom.
H
You
know
with
bathtub
with
everything
and
it's
300
square
feet:
students
get
feed
and
people
can
live
or
one
person
can
live
there.
You
know
graduate
student,
one
student
or
even
a
couple
can
live
there.
Sometimes
they
have
a
little
kid
with
them.
You
know,
so
it
depends
on
how
they
maximize
council
members
are
mentioned.
Where
you
know
we
we
live
in
Hong
Kong.
We
have
units
no
more
than
300
400
square
feet
and
you
put
a
family
of
five
people
living
there.
So
what
happened?
I
mean
this
success.
H
I'm,
not
saying
that
these
are
our
ideal
of
what
need
people
to
live
in
I'm.
Just
curious
Seattle
can
do
that.
So
I'm,
not
sure
why
what's
our
land
use
code,
that
would
prevent
these
things
from
done.
Obviously
they
have
to
be
in
multi-family
Zone.
You
know
Zone
that
are
allows
them
to
do
that
and
I
know
I've
been
to
these
units
with
complete
kitchen
bathroom.
They
have
parking
as
well
they're
parking
spaces
and
they
have
a
Central
Court
people
can
actually
utilize
Central
Court,
so
the
people
live
there
they
get
together.
They
have
council.
H
So,
anyway,
what
I'm
trying
to
say
is
these
things
are
good,
but
I
think
we
need
to.
If
we
don't
know
about
them,
we
need
to
find
out
more
about
it
and.
A
A
U
So
let
them
answer
the
question.
Councilmemberly,
you
are
you're,
correct,
Seattle
has
kind
of
a
longer
history,
perhaps
with
some
of
these
different
housing
types,
including
those
housing
types
that
have
more
communal
living
type
Arrangements.
Our
land
use
code
does
allow
for
those
housing
types
to
occur
in
the
city.
Communal
living
that
is
so
rooming
houses,
congregate,
Care,
Group
quarters
dormitories.
Those
types
of
things
are
allowed
in
the
the
city,
but
they
are
perhaps
something
that
aren't
as
well
utilized.
U
So
that
was
to
council,
member
Zone's
question
and
direction
for
us
is
that
Planning
Commission
begins
reviewing
this.
What
are
some
ways
that
we
could
perhaps
allow
for
a
kitchenette
rather
than
a
full
kitchen
or
looking
at
different
alternatives
to
how
you
arrange
other
kind
of
spaces
for
residents
to
share
within
the
unit?
So
that
is
something
that
we've
heard
and
and
do
anticipate
the
Planning
Commission,
then
taking
a
look
at
as
we
move
that
through
the
process
and
then
micro
Apartments
just
to
get
at
the
definition.
U
So
we
were
really
looking
at
this
as
a
can,
or
or
essentially
a
a
very
small
studio
apartment
or
a
loft
apartment.
So
it
would
have,
it
would
be
self-contained,
it
would
include
its
own
kitchen,
its
own
bathroom,
and
it
would
really
just
differ,
differ
from
a
traditional
power
apartment
by
the
imposition
of
a
size
limit.
So
that
would
be
the
the
key
distinction
between
a
micro
apartment
and
a
traditional
studio
apartment,
as
we
were
kind
of
putting
some
definition
around
this
tonight
can.
U
So
our
our
land
use
code
does
allow
for
micro
Apartments.
What
what
the
aim
of
this
land
use
code
Amendment
would
be
is
to
remove
barriers
to
the
construction
of
micro
Apartments,
because,
while
the
code
does
allow
for
these
housing
types
to
be
built
in
the
city,
we're
not
seeing
a
lot
of
them
built
in
the
city.
Due
to
some
of
the
restrictions
that
we
have
in
place.
I.
H
H
U
Yeah,
the
geographic
scope
would
be
focused
on
our
mixed-use
areas:
approximate
to
Transit
jobs
and
services
right.
H
C
I'm
not
sure,
there's
a
whole
lot
more
to
say
it's
been
a
really
good
conversation,
even
for
one
that
will
just
kind
of
briefly
hitting
the
thing,
but
I
think
it
I
mean
we
could
there
are
probably
a
dozen
different
ways
of
having
housing
and
all
and
I
just
saw
something
on
a
video
about,
and
not
just
in
other
countries,
but
here
younger
people
to
you
know
they
like
something:
that's
400
square
feet
and
it
suits
all
their
needs.
So
it's
it's
we're
not
really
talking
about
that.
C
We're
talking
about
a
certain
type
of
Apartments
micro
apartments
that
most
that
a
long
a
lot
of
people
want.
They
want
to
have
their
own
bathroom,
they
have
their
own
kitchen
and
their
bedrooms
and
those
kind
of
things,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
ways
we
can
look
at
it
and
we'll
you
know
we
could
go
off
and
look
at
these
other
things
as
well,
but
we're
focusing
right
now
on
micro
apartments
in
that
kind
of
configuration.
C
It's
interesting
that
you
know
we
talk
about
Seattle,
yes,
it's
my
daughter
had
an
apartment
in
in
Ballard.
That
was
on
a
Major
Street
and
it
was
a
1920s
apartment.
C
Some
of
the
units,
the
one
she
had
was
a
what
we're
talking
about
it's
a
little
bit
bigger,
but
it
had
a
one-room
bedroom
right
here
and
you
had
a
little
little
kitchen,
I
mean
little
on
one
site
and
then
there
was
the
closets
and
bathroom
on
the
other
side
and
same
thing,
and
it's
a
you
know
it's
and
you
you
could
have
had
two
people
in
there
and
you
could
have
two
people
and
the
kid
in
there,
but
it's
smaller
and
yes,
we
have
them,
it's
we're,
not
Reinventing
or
not,
inventing
something
we're
reusing
or
looking
at
something
different,
and
you
and
again
the
good
news
is
that
we
already
have
this
Pathway
to
do
it
in
the
code.
C
So
what
we're
looking
at
is
how
do
we
utilize
that?
How
do
we
change
it?
How
do
we
put
it
together
and-
and-
and
you
know,
the
things
that
council
member
Robertson
was
talking
about
is
if
we
look
at
those
little
elements.
What
do
we
want
to
put
in
there
or
not
so
I
think
the
program
is,
is
excellent.
Something
we
need
I,
think
you
really
laid
it
out.
Well,
the
questions
and
comments
tonight
are
very
helpful.
C
You
know-
and
this
would
be
something
I
think
the
Planning
Commission
can
really
tackle,
and
the
good
news
is.
There
is
a
lot
of
information
out
there.
This
is
we're
not
re,
inventing
something
we're
repositioning
it
or
looking
at
differently,
so
I'm
really
pleased
with
it
ready
to
go
forward
to
the
Planning,
Commission
and
I.
C
Think
it's
going
to
end
up
with
this
really
meeting
a
a
big
need
and
obviously
you're
going
to
come
back
and
say
we
run
into
this
little
question
here,
and
maybe
we
want
to
look
at
a
different
way.
We
can
have
those
conversations,
but
I'm
I'm
really
excited
about
and
ready
for
it
to
go
forward
and
I
think
we
have
a
very
good
Planning
Commission,
a
very
good
staff
and
a
good
Council,
so
we're
all
ready
to
go.
A
Thank
you,
okay,
so
I
just
have
a
little
bit
to
add
to
this.
I
lived
in
micro
housing
in
in
Hollywood
when
I
was
an
intern
and
so
I
love,
I
loved
it
I
thought
it
was
great
and
allowed
me
to
live
somewhere.
I
wouldn't
have
been
able
to
live
otherwise
allowed
me
to
live
close
to
work,
so
I'm
very
excited
to
be
moving
this
forward
to
the
Planning
Commission
I
appreciate
the
comments
tonight.
I
agree
with
almost
everything
and
I
appreciate:
councilmember
Robertson,
bringing
out
the
Ada
part
of
it
totally
agree
with
that.
A
But
I
had
two
questions.
I
do
I.
Do
want
to
ask
the
Planning
Commission
to
see
how
we
might
get
down
to
30
Ami
that
I'm
not
want
to
live
it
limit
it
to
15
90
dollars,
because
I
think
we
could
do
vouchers
on
with
that
as
well.
So
I'd
like
to
look
into
just
the
different
ways
that
we
could
get
down
to
30
percent
I
am
I
on
some
of
these,
and
is
there
a
limit
to
how
many
people
can
live
in
a
certain
amount
of
space.
A
Okay,
so
I'd
like
to
look
into
the
pros
and
cons
of
one
person
versus
two
people
units
and
what
the
size
differential
would
be.
A
So
that's
it
for
my
comments,
so
the
one
thing
I
would
like
is
as
opposed
to
what
we've
heard
from
councilman
Robertson
I'd,
like
the
Planning
Commission,
to
look
at
the
mixed-use
land
use
districts
and
the
high
frequency
Transit
half
mile
radius
and
make
the
recommendation
to
us
and
have
us
weigh
in
on
what
we'd
like
to
see.
But
that's
just
me,
you've
heard
you,
so
we
need
to
hear
the
majority
of
the
Council
on
that
one.
A
But
what
I
do
here
is
looking
at
having
the
Planning
Commission
look
at
efficiency
versus
micro
housing
units
asking
developers
and
stakeholders
which
model
they
think
is
more
feasible,
studying
the
parking
impacts
of
having
this
kind
of
housing
looking
into
whether
we
should
have
a
minimum
size
looking
into
whether
we
should
have
minimum
or
amount
of
people.
I
guess
you
know
the
pros
and
cons
is
one
versus
two
people.
A
A
H
A
C
Think
we
ought
to
keep
an
open
mind
and
look
at
it
at
this
point,
and
you
know
we
don't
want
to
preclude
something
that
we
may
look
at
and
figure
out
a
different
way
to
use
it.
You
know.
S
A
S
Sorry,
I,
I,
misunderstood,
okay,
I
I
think
that
we
should
be
giving
them
this
map
and,
as
they
then
consider
all
of
the
elements
they
might
come
back
and
say.
Actually
we
might
want
to
shift
the
map
a
bit,
but
I
don't
know
that
I
would
today
arbitrarily
limit
Beyond.
What's
already
on
the
map,
councilmember.
A
E
You
yeah
I'm
good
with
that.
It
would
be
good
for
the
Planning
Commission
to
know
that
what
the
council
was
thinking,
though,
that
the
council,
you
know,
was
looking
at
the
map
and-
and
you
know,
weren't
sure
whether
it
should
be
an
over
you
know,
the
council
was
was
not
uniform
on
that,
and
I
can
help
with
that,
as
liaison
just
that.
We
want
them
to
study
it,
but
that
there
was
some
concern
on
Council
about
allowing
micro
housing
in
mixed
use
outside
the
high
capacity
area.
I
think
that's
fair.
A
Sir,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye
any
opposed
great
and
that
passes.
Does
anybody
need
a
break
or
should
we
plow
on
through
out
the
platform
through?
Okay,
we'll
do
that?
Oh
I
think
we're
taking
a
break
okay,
all
right,
Deputy
city
manager.
Would
you
like
to
introduce
the
next
study
session
item.
N
The
last
item
on
the
agenda
tonight
is
the
third
installment
of
the
budget.
Presentations
for
this
fall.
Previous
presentations
have
focused
on
the
operating
budget
and
the
capital
investment
plan,
as
well
as
new
Investments
to
meet
challenges
of
growing
urbanizing
city
and
tonight
utilities
is
here
to
present
their
proposed
2023-2024
budget
and
rates
and
the
capital
development
plan.
Her
Capital
Improvement
plan
every
biennium,
the
utilities
department
updates,
our
utility
rates
to
incorporate
regional
and
local
costs
to
fund
operational
and
capital
needs
to
continue
reliable
and
high
quality
service
delivery
to
its
customers.
N
W
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
present
utilities,
budget
and
rates
for
your
consideration.
This
is
an
informational
I.
I
knew
I
was
going
to
forget
something.
W
W
W
W
W
W
So
next
we're
going
to
move
to
review
the
utilities
proposed
budget,
but
before
I
do
that
I'd
like
to
introduce
the
utilities
leadership
team
with
me
in
the
audience
is
Lucy
Liu,
deputy
director
Joe
Harbor
assistant
director
over
field
operations,
Linda
de
bold
assistant,
director
of
engineering
and
Andy
Baker
fiscal
manager
for
utilities.
Absent
today
is
Uma
Singh,
acting
assistant
director
over
resource
management
and
customer
service.
This
team
has
worked
very
hard
to
create
a
responsible
and
responsive
budget
for
your
consideration.
W
Next
I'd
like
to
provide
a
brief
overview
of
the
utilities
before
we
move
into
the
details
of
the
budget,
so
we
provide
four
lines
of
business:
drinking
water,
sewer,
storm
water
and
Solid
Waste
Management
we
contract
with
their
public
services
for
Solid,
Waste
Services.
The
services
we
provide
are
essential
to
our
communities,
health
and
safety.
They
are
impact,
the
quality
of
our
neighborhoods
and
the
health
of
the
natural
environment.
Our
streams,
lakes
and
wetlands
they're
also
vital
to
the
economic
growth
and
prosperity
of
our
city.
W
W
W
W
For
these
reasons,
we
have
a
very
long
range
planning
Horizon,
because
we
provide
essential
services
that
the
community
relies
on
and
as
a
utility,
we
have
number
of
challenges.
First
and
foremost,
is
that
about
half
of
our
budget
is
to
pay
for
external
costs,
such
as
for
water
supply
and
wastewater
treatment
costs.
These
costs
are
out
of
our
Direct
Control
and
are
non-discretionary.
W
W
Also,
utilities
is
a
highly
regulated
industry
and
the
cost
to
comply
with
the
regulations
is
a
key
budget
challenges
for
a
challenge
for
us.
In
the
face
of
unprecedented
growth,
we
need
to
make
sure
utility
infrastructures
is
in
place
to
support
the
city's
economic
prosperity
and,
of
course,
like
everyone.
Right
now,
we
are
impacted
by
extraordinary
inflation.
W
Despite
these
challenges,
bellevue's
rates
are
competitive
with
our
neighbors.
This
chart,
Compares
bellevue's,
total
monthly
bill
for
Waters,
sewer
and
storm
to
our
neighbors,
and,
as
you
can
see,
Bellevue
is
in
the
middle
of
the
pack.
I
will
go
into
more
detail
later
in
the
presentation
on
different
trade
drivers
that
affect
utility
bills.
W
The
budget
before
you
responds
to
council
priorities
by
providing
essential
services
that
are
critical
to
economic
development
in
Bellevue
and
by
taking
care
of
both
the
built
and
natural
environment.
Being
good
stewards
of
Financial
Resources
leveraging,
Innovative
technology
and
sustainability
of
utility
services
for
the
community
are
very
important
to
us
and
our
Hallmark
of
a
high
performance
government
utilities
offer
also
offers
a
number
of
programs
to
help
our
most
vulnerable
customers,
thus
contributing
to
achieving
human
potential.
W
The
utilities
budget
is
based
on
policies
adopted
by
Council.
These
policies
are
critical
to
ensure
a
continuity
of
utility
services.
These
policies
direct
us
to
set
rates
to
fund
full
cost
of
providing
Utility
Services
now
and
in
the
future.
Wholesale
costs
are
from.
Regional
providers
are
passed
through
to
customers
so
that
these
costs
do
not
hamper
our
ability
to
provide
services
to
Bellevue
residents.
W
W
So
this,
finally,
is
the
utilities
proposed
budget,
just
under
380
million
dollars,
and
this
funding
is
necessary
for
the
two
years
to
pay
for
both
operating
and
capital
needs,
and
there
are
we
sort
of
think
of
our
budget
in
two
two
buckets
one
is
external
drivers,
which
is,
on
the
right
hand,
side
of
this
chart
that
you-
and
these
are
bills,
that
we
pay
to
others.
This
includes
wholesale
payments
to
Cascade,
for
water
supply
and
to
King
County
for
wastewater
treatment.
W
Together,
these
wholesale
costs
make
up
more
than
35
percent
of
our
budget
and
as
an
Enterprise,
we
also
pay
taxes
and
for
support
services
for
other
City
departments
such
as
HR
it
and
finance.
These
costs
make
up
about
15
of
our
budget.
So,
together,
these
external
costs
shown
in
yellow
and
orange
or
gold
are
make
up
about
half
of
our
budget
and
are
largely
outside
our
Direct
Control
on
the
left.
Side
of
this
pie.
Chart
are
what
we
call
internal
drivers
locally.
Our
single
largest
expense
category
is
capital
Investments.
W
This
investment
is
necessary
to
take
care
of
our
aging
infrastructure
so
that
we
can
provide
consistent
Services
about
a
third
of
our
budget
goes
to
paying
for
these
Investments.
The
smallest
portion
of
the
local
expensive
category
is
is
for
local
operations,
that
is
to
pay
for
all
the
services
that
you
see
limit
listed.
W
R7
ucip
is
about
318
million
dollars
and,
as
you
know,
the
utilities
infrastructure
is
aging
and
increased.
Investments
are
necessary
and
inevitable.
The
CIP
is
largely
focused
on
renewal
and
replacement
of
these.
This
aging
infrastructure,
as
you
can
see
about
260
million
262
million
dollars,
we
have
a
strategic,
Asset
Management
program
to
prioritize
infrastructure
Investments
for
the
optimum
time
not
too
soon
and
not
too
late.
The
goal
is
to
minimize
costs
and
maintain
Service
delivery
to
the
community.
W
X
W
Come
on
so,
in
addition
to
the
Aging
infrastructure,
we
have
environmental
preservation
of
our
natural
environment
and-
and
we
are
always
investing
in
operational
efficiencies
to
sure
and
to
ensure
that
infrastructure
is
in
place
to
accommodate
about
these
growth,
to
leverage
cost
efficiencies
and
to
minimize
disruptions
to
the
community.
And
the
CIP
is
developed
in
close
coordination
with
other
departments
and
agencies
such
as
bellevue's
transportation,
department
and
Washington.
W
So
this
gives
you
highlights
some
of
the
key
projects
in
the
proposed
CIP.
As
I
mentioned,
majority
of
our
investments
are
for
aging
infrastructure,
so
each
of
the
three
utilities
is
a
different
stage
of
system
replacement.
Water
is
an
active
replacement
right
now.
For
this
reason,
we
have
more
investments
in
water,
including
replacing
water
mains,
rehabilitating
water
reservoirs
and
pump
stations.
W
You
know
in
sewer
and
storm
we're
just
beginning
to
replace
systems,
Under
Pressure,
environmental
preservation.
We
have
Investments
for
preventing
flooding
and
to
preserve
our
waterways
and
support
fish
Passage.
We
are
also
well
positioned
to
support
growth
by
making
Investments
well
ahead
of
development.
Nearly
every
CIP
has
projects
to
support
growth.
In
the
current
CIP
we
have
a
project
to
add
water
storage
for
downtown
Wilburton
and
Spring
District.
In
previous
years,
we've
added
new
water
inlet
station
in
the
same
area
and
new
water
facilities
in
Spring
District.
W
increases
in
wholesale
costs
for
water
supply
and
wastewater
treatment
are
driving.
One
third
of
these
rate
increases
over
the
next
two
years,
and
these
Regional
costs
are
expected
to
increase
in
the
future
locally.
You
can
expect,
as
a
just
a
rule
of
thumb
is
roughly
four
percent
local
rate
increase,
two
percent
for
Capital
program,
one
percent
for
taxes
and
support
costs,
and
one
percent
for
running
the
utility.
W
Let's-
and
this
is
a
little
bit
more
detail
on
the
typical
residential
Bill
and
what's
the
impact
to
that
typical
residential
bill
from
by
different
rate,
drivers
I'm
going
to
focus
on
2023
Bill.
Our
current
typical
residential
bill
for
the
three
utilities
is
about
197
dollars
per
month.
The
cost
we
paid
to
Cascade
for
water
supply
in
King,
County,
Wastewater
treatment
will
add
4.71
to
the
customer
bill
in
2023.,
locally
investment
in
capital
infrastructure
will
add,
4.82
cents.
W
W
In
2024
we
have
the
same
rate:
drivers,
the
the
actual
dollar
split
me
very,
a
little
bit
so
going
back
to
how
do
I
rate
Stack
Up.
Obviously
we
develop
our
budget
and
rates
based
on
what
are
the
needs
of
the
utility
to
sustain
services,
but
we
are
always
mindful
of
how
our
rates
compare
to
our
neighbors
and
in
doing
this
comparison,
we
researched
the
reasons
for
some
of
these
cities
with
lower
rates.
W
Second
factor
is
the
amount
of
investment
in
infrastructure.
Bellevue
is
actively
replacing
aged
out
infrastructure
and
we
have
a
long-range
Capital
funding
plan
for
future
replacement
needs
as
Utility
Systems
age.
Many
agencies
across
the
city
across
the
country
will
have
to
do
double-digit
rate
increases
to
pay
for
infrastructure
Investments.
This
will
not
happen
in
Bellevue,
because
we
are
one
of
the
few
cities,
one
in
the
nation,
really
that's
putting
money
aside
from
infrastructure
at
renewal
and
replacement
and
actively
replacing
aged
out
systems.
W
We
are
very
mindful
of
the
members
in
our
community
who
may
be
in
disadvantaged.
Financial
conditions
and
utility
bills
may
be
a
a
hardship
for
them,
and
we
have
several
programs
to
assess
them.
We
have
an
emergency
assistance
program
and
that
provides
build
relief
for
customers
facing
temporary
Financial
shocks
such
as
job
loss.
W
W
This
program
provides
a
70
discount
on
utility
bills,
about
1100
participants,
take
advantage
of
these
programs
and
we
spend
over
a
million
dollars
per
year
to
help
these
customers.
In
addition
to
these,
the
city
has
also
has
has
a
refund
to
low-income
households
for
portion
of
the
utility
tax
paid.
W
W
Expense
suspense,
oh
oops!
This
is
okay,
so,
in
addition
to
the
budget
before
you,
the
Environmental
Services
Commission
also
reviewed
and
liberated
on
two
policy
issues:
we're
not
asking
for
policy
Direction
on
these
today,
because
they
will
not
be
implemented
until
2024.
So
we
will
be
bringing
these
issues
to
you
early
next
year.
These
issues
are,
first,
topic
is
transitioning
to
billing,
our
customers
on
a
monthly
basis.
Right
now
we
build
every
two
months
and
there
is
a
lot
of
Industry
thoughts
on
going
to
monthly
billing.
W
So
we
will
be
bringing
that
to
you.
The
second
is
how
best
to
recover
credit
card
costs
that
are
increasing
in
the
processing
costs.
So
again
we're
not
looking
for
any
direction
from
you
other
than
to
let
you
know
that
the
commission
did
look
at
these
issues
and
we
will
be
bringing
their
their
thoughts
on
those
topics
later
on
in
the
year
or
actually
early
next
year.
So
that
concludes
my
presentation
on
utility
budget
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
have
now
right
now
before
I
turn
it
over
to
the
chair.
A
H
This
is
a
responsive
budget
and
I
support
it
to
keep
the
rates
as
low
as
possible.
I've
also
worked
with
staff
on
efforts
to
pursue
external
funding
to
mitigate
rate
pressures.
I
appreciate,
Staffing,
on
continued
persistence
to
pursue
Grant
funds
for
utility
functions
at
this
time.
I
just
want
to
take
this
opportunity
to
make
one
point.
As
you
notice,
in
the
rates
discussion
50,
we
can
control
50
percent,
it's
out
of
our
control
is
passed
through
and
we
notice
that
the
rate
increase
a
lot
of
increase
will
come
from
our
external
sources.
H
So
we
need
to
pay
attention.
How
can
we
work
on
the
regional
basis
to
influence
the
external
rate
increase,
which
is
clear,
Clean,
Water
and
Wastewater,
which
is
under
other
jurisdictions?
So
let's
pay
more
attention
to
that,
because
our
department
utility
is
doing
a
great
job,
but
you
know
we
don't
have
control
or
limited
control
on
the
other
side
until
we
pay
some
more
attention
to
it.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation
and
thanks
to
the
staff
and
to
the
commissions.
Thank
you.
X
Sure
that's
what
I
thought
good
evening
mayor,
Robinson
and
council
members,
chair
of
the
Environmental
Services
Commission,
a
key
responsibility
for
the
commission
is
to
advise
City
Council
on
utilities,
budget
and
rates.
In
this
role,
the
commission
represents
the
interest
of
utility
rate
payers
and
takes
a
responsibility
assigned
by
Council
very
seriously.
X
Over
the
last
nine
months,
the
commission
reviewed
the
budget
in
detail
over
nine
meetings.
The
commission
has
closely
scrutinized
the
proposed
utilities,
operating
and
capital
budgets
and
the
rate
increases
to
implement
the
budgets.
The
commission
received
public
input
on
the
proposed
utilities
CIP
through
an
online
open
house.
The
commission
also
held
a
public
hearing
to
gather
public
comments
on
the
proposed
utilities,
budget
and
rates.
This
work
formed
the
basis
for
the
commission's
recommendation,
based
on
on
our
budget
review.
X
The
commission
unanimously
recommends
the
proposed
utilities
operating
and
capital
budgets
and
rates
Commissioners,
as
Bellevue
rate
payers
are
sensitive
to
the
impact
of
rate
increases
to
customers.
However,
external
costs,
including
wholesale
costs,
taxes
and
support
services
costs,
are
increasing.
These
costs
are
not
within
the
utilities,
Department's
control
and
will
require
rate
increases.
X
The
budget
also
includes
prudent
investments
in
infrastructure
based
on
utility,
Asset,
Management
program
and
long-range
infrastructure
funding
strategy.
The
commission
did
look
at
the
possibility
of
delaying
rate
increases
for
infrastructure,
renewal
and
replacement
funding.
Unfortunately,
the
negative
Financial
impact
over
the
future
years
was
greater
than
the
minimal
benefit.
We
would
see
in
the
rates
for
this
budget,
so
the
commission
recommended
not
to
defer
RNR.
X
The
proposed
budget
and
rates
represent
a
responsible
and
lean
budget
designed
to
enable
the
city
to
continue
to
provide
high
quality
services.
The
commission
appreciates
staff's
stewardship
of
rate
payers
dollars,
focus
on
customer
impacts
and
continued
focus
on
operational
efficiencies.
On
behalf
on
behalf
of
the
commission,
we
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
analyze
the
utilities
budget
and
provide
the
recommendation
to
the
council.
X
F
Thank
you
mayor
just
a
few
comments.
First,
thanks
for
the
presentations
from
not
and
then
beat
in
the
Environmental
Services
Commission
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
few
comments
here,
just
as
the
being
on
the
board
and
on
the
finance
committee
financial
management
committee
that
been
advocating
to
make
sure
that
the
cost
increases
and
the
issues
related
to
the
allocation
Amendment
chart.
Member
charges
are
Equitable
for
all
Cascade
members
and,
of
course
that
includes
Bellevue.
S
Yeah
thank
you
mayor
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
You
know
I
always
appreciate
the
thoughtful
nature
of
our
utilities
and
looking
at
making
sure
that
our
rates
include
the
r
r
with
that
said.
You
know,
especially
with
our
communities
that
are
struggling.
The
utility
costs
can
can
be
high
in
terms
of
being
able
to
pay.
My
question
is
I
know
on
the
slide,
you
showed
the
2.4
million
of
utility
relief
support
for
the
different
categories
of
support,
we're
helping
the
four-month
emergency,
the
senior
disabled
and
the
low-income
housing.
W
We
go
to
senior
apartments
so
and-
and
we
do
a
number
of
things
such
as
automatic
renewal
and
making
it
easier
for
people
to
reapply
so
I,
don't
think
that
we
need
more
additional
funding
the
way
I
look
at
it.
Is
we
what
we?
What
we
need
to
do
is
increase
our
Outreach
efforts
and
and
find
really
make
the
Market
the
program
a
little
bit
more.
For
whatever
reason
we
have
not
seen
much
growth
in
in
in
our
program.
W
We
have
reached
out
and
gotten
some
funding
for
our
customers
who
have
gotten
overdue
bills.
So
we've
we've
got
State
funding
about
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
help
our
customers
and
and
that
program
is
managed
by
hopelink.
But
we
got
that
funding.
So
that
our
customers
could
use
that
for
paying
overdue
bills.
S
Okay,
yeah
I
was
just
trying
to
understand.
It
seems
like
if
we've
got
more
community
that
need
rental
assistance,
that
the
utility
assistance
would
also
be
needed.
So
I
would
like
to
better
understand
what
additional
Outreach
might
be
needed
and
make
sure
that,
especially
for
the
funds
that
are
already
available,
I'm,
just
a
little
surprised
as
you
are,
that
we're
not
seeing
that
increase
in
need
because
it
seems
like
housing,
utilities
and
food
go
hand
in
hand
and
we're
certainly
seeing
both
in
the
rental
and
the
food
insecurity
that
those
needs
have
gone
up
significantly.
W
Sure
sure,
and
actually
we
do
reach
out
to
our
partners
and
partners,
social
agencies,
and
we
are
one
of
the
very
few
cities
utilities
that
provide
discount
or
rebate
to
multi-family,
so
for
folks
that
actually
get
their
utility
bill
from
us.
We
discount
the
bill
for
those
that
live
in
apartments
they
they
can
apply
and
we
will
then
send
them
a
rebate
check
at
the
end
of
the
at
the
end
of
the
year.
W
So,
like
I
said,
what
we
want
to
focus
on
is
not
putting
more
money
in
the
budget,
but
actually
maximizing
the
use
of
the
money
we
already
have.
X
J
You
yeah
I,
remember
those
conversations
when
I
was
a
liaison
still
that
that
seemed
to
be
lower,
and
that
was
pre-covered,
but
even
then
it
didn't
seem,
as
many
folks
are
taking
advantage
of
these
of
these
programs
as
we
as
we
might
expect.
So.
First
of
all,
thank
you
so
much
for
the
great
presentation
of
ammonia
and
the
entire
Environmental
Services
Commission.
Thank
you
for
bringing
your
daughter
tonight.
I
love
it
that
you
did
that
and
to
and
to
show
everyone
who's
watching.
J
That
reminds
me
of
a
councilmember
Robertson's.
Tell
me
stories
she
used
to
bring
her
daughters
to
to
meetings
all
the
time
as
well,
so
something
a
great
example.
J
I
wanted
to
ask
a
couple,
quick
questions
here,
so
on
slide
16.
There
is
a
big
jump
that
I
noticed
that
I
wanted
you
to
speak
to
on
the
wholesale
from
2.3
percent
to
3.2
percent
in
2028..
Can
you
just
speak
to
why
we
have
such
a
significant
jump?
I
think
I
might
know
why,
but
I
would
love
to
hear
it
from
you.
W
Seven
five
percent
rate
increase,
okay
plus
and
that
will
increase
to
nine
percent
starting
in
that
year,
and
so
that
that
rate
increase
there
is
as
a
result
of
King
County.
J
Okay,
okay,
so
I'm
sure
you're,
looking
already
in
terms
of
what
that
potential
could
look
like
to
utility
rate
payers
and-
and
this
has
a
significant
jump
at
at
that
time,
so
that
is
2028,
so
that's
a
little
ways
away,
but
I
know
you'll,
keep
a
surprise
of
that
as
we
continue
down
here,
and
thank
you
again
so
much
for
the
emphasis
on
bellevue's
approach
compared
to
some
of
the
other
municipalities.
J
I
think
that's
so
important
in
terms
of
why
our
rates
are
the
way
they
are
and
the
strong
reinvestment
in
our
infrastructure
year
over
year
over
year.
I
think
that
pays
dividends
to
our
residents.
It's
it's
I,
think
it's
being
very
responsible
in
terms
of
how
we
use
repair
funds
to
continue
to
just
reinvest.
So
I
really
appreciate
that
and
some
of
the
other
costs
that
are,
quite
frankly
out
of
our
control
in
terms
of
who
we
purchased
the
water
from
and
at
at
what
rate.
J
So
I
really
wanted
just
to
mention
that
and
thank
you
and
I
think
further
education
of
you
know
of
the
community
in
terms
of
how
those
things,
though,
how
those
rates
are
set
are
are
always
really
important
and
I
know.
This
is
coming
back
before
us,
but
thank
you
for
listening
to
the
residents
who
have
called
for
monthly
billing
versus
bi-monthly.
J
What
I've
heard
is
that
the
the
biggest
reason
that
they're
in
favor
of
that
is
is
more
predictability
in
terms
of
those
on
a
fixed
income
and
managing
their
their.
You
know
their
their
money
from
month
to
month,
it'll
be
easier
for
them
to
do
that,
but
as
part
of
that,
I
hope
that
you
also
look
at
any
increases
that
may
be
passed
on
to
rate
Pairs
and
because
we
go
from
bi-monthly
the
to
monthly,
and
you
don't
have
to
speak
to
that
now.
J
Unless
you
want
to
then
then
then
then
feel
free
to
do
so
and
then
the
other
thought
I
just
had
on
the
on
the
credit
card
recovery.
Perhaps
something
the
commission
could
look
at
if,
if
needed,
is
that
those
funds
could
put
be
put
back
into
the
utility
bill
discount
or
the
tax
rebate
or
marketing
dollars
to
make
more
residents
aware
of
those
of
those
programs,
maybe
not
all,
but
maybe
some
would
be
sufficient.
But
if
that's
the
way
we
can
further
fund
those
programs
if
needed.
X
It's
been
interesting
and
I
was
very
surprised
how
we
all
had
different
opinions
about
what
to
do
with
those
credit
card
charges,
but
I
am
excited
about
which
way
we
are
leading
and
how
those
funds
will
reflect
in
rates
decrease,
not
a
lot.
It's
never
enough,
but
a
little
bit
and.
E
Thanks
for
coming
good
to
see
you
and
thanks
for
the
great
presentation
and
work
I
know,
it's
been
a
lot
of
work
this
year
and
I
also
wanted
to
appreciate
councilmember
Barksdale
for
his
comments
and
service
on
the
Cascade
board
for
the
city,
I
I
appreciate
you
keeping
your
eye
on
that
on
behalf
of
our
ratepayers.
E
So
first
before
I
begin,
I
wanted
to
say
that
I
I
do
support
belvey's
philosophy
of
having
a
robust
reinvestment
program
in
the
R
R
I.
Think
that's
the
right
thing.
It's
the
responsible
thing
being
good.
Stewards
of
the
people's
assets
and
money
is
really
important
to
me
and
I.
Think
that's
one
of
the
ways
that
we
do
so
but
I
have
to
say
looking
at
slide,
16
and
projecting
out
a
60
to
70
percent.
E
Over
10-year
increase
is
a
pretty
hard
thing
to
swallow,
especially
because
you
know
we
there's
people
that
have
a
really
hard
time
with
funding
that.
So
it
would
be
good
if
we
could
do
things
with
our
capital
budget
to
help
create
more
water
availability
and
to
ultimately
drive
down
the
rates
in
the
future.
So
I
I
see
that
we
are
looking
at
groundwater
well
project
to
create
more
source.
Do
we
have
any
idea
about
how
much
source
that
may
create
and
what
that
might
do
to
rates
in
the
future.
W
So
right
now
we
are,
we
are
pursuing
a
groundwater
primarily
for
emergency.
Okay,
that's
right,
it's
more
for
resiliency,
but
we
do
have
enough
water
rights
to
sort
of
like
about
half
of
the
winter
usage
or
just
under
half.
So
we
are
looking
at
the
feasibility
of
developing
those
Wells
and
then
in.
If
we
want
to
use
it
as
a
water
source,
we
really
will
need
to
engage
with
Cascade,
because
right
now
they
limit
the
amount
of
Supply
that
members
put
into
the
common
pool,
but
I
think
that
that
is
not
a
obstacle.
W
E
I
would
absolutely
support
that
I
think
that's
also
part
of
being
good
Steward,
both
for
just
in
general
overall
but
for
the
Emergency
basis.
I
also
really
support
councilmember
Lee's
comment
about.
We
should
try
to
get
more
Grant
funds
for
some
of
our
projects.
I
think
that
would
be
really
great
and
then
I
was
looking
at
one
of
the
ways
that
we
fund
projects,
in
addition
to
rates
that
go
into
r
r
are
the
connection.
E
Fees
and
I
was
looking
at
the
water
sewer
and
storm
connection
fees
in
Bellevue,
which
I
have
to
say
I've
never
looked
at
I
see
they
were
there's
a
2021
update
on
the
on
the
website
and
in
most
cities
when,
of
course,
these
only
come
into
play.
When
you
add
new
units
or
new
yeah
new
development
in
most
cities,
these
are
paid
up
front
by
the
developer,
but
Bellevue
we
have
these
paid
for
10
years
by
the
customer.
E
E
How
often
do
we
update
these
fees
because
they
seem
pretty
low
compared
to
a
lot
of
other
cities,
not
not
saying
we
want
to
Jack
things
up,
but
the
people
when
we
have
new
developments
that
are
using
our
system
and
driving
the
need
to
expand
our
system.
I.
Think
it's
fair
to
have
those
those
projects
help
cover
their
share
so
rather
than
putting
it
on
the
backs
of
the
people
that
live
here
already.
So
how
much?
E
How
often
do
we
update
the
crcs
and
and
do
they
actually
cover
the
true
fair
share
of
the
connection
and
buying
into
the
system
that
the
rate
payers
have
been
investing
in
all
these
years?.
W
So
we
update
those
annually,
okay
and
unless
there's
not
much
of
a
change,
in
which
case
we'll
do
it
I'm,
not
every
two
budgets
but
they're
looked
at
annually,
okay
and
and
they
do
recover
the
costs
for
buying
into
the
infrastructure.
So
some
agencies
might
collect
money
for
projects
in
the
future.
W
What
we
do
is
we
actually
say,
you're
buying
into
the
existing
infrastructure
and,
and
so
I
think
they
do
recover
the
cost
as
far
as
paying
upfront
or
over
10
years,
you're
right
that
this
is
really
kind
of
an
artifact
of
decisions
made
back
then.
But
you
might
recall
that
when
we
pursued
funding
for
a
couple
of
affordable
housing
projects,
one
of
the
conditions
of
that
was
that
the
the
customer
is
able
to
pay
on
the
fees
up
front.
W
So
we
have
now
changed
it
to
say
the
the
customer
has
the
opportunity
to
prepay
like
Seattle
does
for
sewer
capacity,
or
you
can
more
amortize
it
over
10
years.
But
what
you
bring
up
is
a
a
slightly
different
idea,
and
certainly
we
will
take
it
back
and
talk
to
our
development
services,
folks
about
perhaps
doing
it
as
a
fee
up
front
yeah.
E
I
think
we
should
think
about
it,
because
it's
one
of
those
things
that
a
new
homeowner
might
not
expect
so
I
I
just
think
it's
worth
a
discussion
to
look
at
it,
obviously
not
to
derail
this
and
I
do
support
the
upcoming
policy.
Look
at
credit
card
recovery
and
monthly
bill
pays.
E
I
hope
that
the
scope
of
that
work
includes
allowing
people
to
set
up
on
auto
pays
as
well
as
online
bill
pay,
because
we've
had
some
some
rate
pair
comments
about
that
about
how
difficult
it
is
and
a
lot
of
people
just
set
their
bills
up,
and
they
just
auto
pay
every
month
or
whatever
the
billing
cycle.
So
will
that
include
that
scope?
Yes,
it.
W
Will-
and
in
fact
actually
one
of
the
things
we
want
to
do
is
encourage
customers,
so
we
will
be
doing
a
lot
of
Outreach
to
say
here
are
low
cost
ways,
low
effort,
ways
for
you
to
pay
the
bills
so
because
we
really
don't
want
to
charge
people.
What
we
want
to
do
is
prevent
these
costs
from
going
up
the
credit
card
process
and
the
best
there
are
low
cost
options,
so
we
will
definitely
be
doing
that
and
and
we'll
bring
back
to
you,
the
results
of.
E
Those
efforts
super
and
then
I,
guess
just
one
more
quick
thing.
The
utility
property
at
Marymoor
that
has
been
a
lot
of
people
want
us
to
use
that
for
qriket.
I
know
that
under
the
law,
because
it's
utility
property,
we
have
to
get
paid
fair
market
value
for
that.
If
that
transaction
does
come
down,
I
assume
that
fair
market
value
will
go
into
potentially
offset
rates
or
pay
for
r
r.
Is
that.
W
So
what
our
policies
are
for
our
capital
investment
is
that
any
one-time
monies
sale
of
property
is
a
good
example
of
one-time
monies
go
into
that
fund
so
which
one
is
that
the
r
r
pardon
me
which
fund,
whichever
fund,
owns
that
properties,
and
in
this
case
our
property
of
Jason
to
Marymoor,
is
owned
by
the
sewer
fund.
W
C
Yeah,
thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
and
pleased
to
see
both
of
you
here
and
have
this
discussion.
You
know
a
lot
of
issues
in
this
first
place.
I
I,
think
the
you
know
the
plan
and
the
pro
the
financial
program
is,
is
very
good
and
you
know
very
well
light
in
the
future.
One
of
the
things
that
I
is
always
a
puzzle
on
this
and
I
know.
C
The
first
thing
when
I
first
came
on-
and
you
know-
was
the
liaison
to
the
utilities,
to
the
Environmental
Services
Commission
and
we
went
in
and
saw
this
this
chart,
and
it
is,
is
absolutely
amazing
that
we
are
doing
this
planning
out
so
far
along
and
for
the
utilities
and
other
cities
aren't
and
one
of
the
reasons
that
the
some
of
them
are
lower
on
the
water
costs
is
because
of
that
and
one
of
these
days,
they're
going
to
have
a
big
big
bill
to
pay,
and
we
don't.
C
But
one
of
the
things
that
is
is
we
have
to
keep
up
with
I'm
sure
you
are
but
with
without
getting
into
any
details,
but
there
are
more
seem
to
be
more
and
more
util
water
issues
in
terms
of
breaking
pipes
and
things
like
that
and
I
know
we
went
from
what
was
it
two
years
to
from
five
years
to
two
years
in
Replacements?
C
At
one
point,
are
we
looking
at
actually
increasing
the
their
the
recovery
and
reducing
the
replacement
of
pipe
further
ahead,
because
a
number
of
things
in
the
paper-
and
sometimes
we've
talked
about
it-
mentioned
that
we
always
say
that
you
know
the
a
lot
of
these
pipes
are
well
over
at
least
half
of
their
lifetime
and
probably
more
and
it
it
may
be
or
you're
looking
at
I
guess
the
the
commission
is
looking
at
is
this?
C
Are
we
on
the
best
path
for
the
future
and
what
happens
if
there's
a
real
big
breakdown
at
some
point?
We're
not
ready
on
I
mean
so
it's
going
to
make
cost
more.
But
it's
one
of
those
things
that
you
know
it's
a
long
range
and
that's
the
one
of
the
great
things
about
the
utilities
department
is
it
thinks
in
Long
Range,
so
I'm
just
raising
the
issue.
C
Are
you
you're
kind
of
thinking
about
at
some
point
really
going
into
a
very
major
consideration
of
where
are
we
now,
and
particularly
with
all
the
new
growth
coming
and
changes
in
the
climate
and
all
those
other
factors
in
there?
Is
that
something
you're
working
on
I'm
sure
it
is,
but.
W
Our
engineering
department
has
been
working
on
it
and
that's
really
the
premise
of
our
infrastructure.
Investment
is
a
very
robust,
Asset
Management
program.
So
what
we
look
at
is
the
probability
of
failure
in
an
asset
like
a
pipe
and
then
the
consequence
of
failure.
So
you
know
there
are
some
areas
that
the
consequence
might
not
be
so
dire,
but
the
pipe
right
by
Overlake
Hospital
May.
Any
failure
of
that
pipe
will
have
dire
consequences.
W
So
there's
a
huge
prioritization
process
that
happens
and
what
I
can
tell
you
is
that
we
are
very
comfortable
with
our
current
strategy
and
we
are
replacing
five
miles
of
pipe
every
year
and
that
that's
really
quite
a
bit
more
than
most
most
other
jurisdictions
do
and
and
that's
based
on
the
types
of
pipe
we
have.
We
have
some
asbestos
cement
pipe
that
we
that's
what
we
are
getting
rid
of.
W
First,
it
there's
a
there's,
a
whole
science
behind
what,
when
you
replace
and
and
the
the
thing
is
you're
right
and
that
we
don't
want
it
to
fail,
because
that
will
actually
end
up
costing
a
lot
more,
but
you
also
don't
want
to
replace
it
too
soon,
because
then
that's
really
wasting
life
useful
life
of
that
asset.
So
our
goal
is
replace
it
just
in
time
not
too
soon
and
not
too
late,
and
and-
and
we
do
look
at
this-
and
we
look
at
it
on
an
ongoing
basis.
C
Yeah
I
I
know
and
I'm,
just
just
you
know,
things
change
and
all
I
just
want
to
make
sure
and
unfortunately,
in
the
public
they
don't
quite
understand
in
the
process
and
something
breaks
this
like,
and
you
get
some
bad
some
bad
comments,
but
I
just
want
to
highlight
that
I
mean
we
are
we're
not
we're
the
only
one
doing
that
and
one
one
of
the
big
reasons.
C
Some
of
the
other
cities
around
us
rates
are
lower
on
getting
their
water
is
because
of
this,
and
actually
sometimes
the
cost
of
their
own
water
is
more
than
than
what
it
comes
from
Cascade.
So
it's
it's
a
complex
thing,
but
I
think
we're
on
the
right
path.
C
C
C
But
again
one
of
the
things
we've
worked
on,
for
you
know
a
number
for
a
long
time
for
decades
on
and
the
reason
we
have
it
is
because
it
is
the
best
in
terms
of
rate
charges
and
and
some
reliability
or
anything
else,
and
we
do
have
in
insight
and
and
also
participation
in
the
decisions
made
on
the
the
water
cost.
So
it's
not
as
if
it's
just
imposed
on
this.
C
It's
part
of
a
process
that
we've
have
had
along
and
the
Bellevue
has
led
the
charge
in
a
long
time
for
that,
so
I
think
we're
in
really
good
shape
and
and
I.
Think
I'm
really
I
really
really
am
pleased
at
what
we're
doing
and
with
the
water
utility
and
with
the
waste
water
and
unfortunately,
that's
the
one.
C
We
can't
control,
that's
the
big
cost
and
then
the
infrastructure
cost
and
all
that
so
those
are
where
the
ones
that
really
hit
the
the
rates
that
people
pay
when
it
comes
down
to
it.
But
overall
I
think
it's
a
it's
you're.
You
know
going
forward
very
well
and
I.
You
know,
have
no
problem
with
this.
Going
forward
and
I
really
join
in
with
the
idea
of
having
people
pay
monthly
because
they
a
lot
of
times
they
come
and
they
complain
because
they
have
this
two-month
bill
and
it's
they.
C
A
You
along
the
way,
thank
you,
councilmember
Stokes,
okay,
so
this
is
so
painful
to
me
following
our
affordable
housing
work,
because
this
just
makes
housing
so
much
more
expensive
and
I
know
it's
not
the
city,
it's
really
the
county,
that's
putting
the
big
high
cost
here.
This
is
just
a
significant
increase
in
rates
continuously
over
the
next
10
years.
A
I
just
have
a
really
hard
time,
just
taking
sitting
down
and
I
I
look
at
other
countries,
and
they
have
a
circular
mentality
about
seeing
waste
as
a
resource
and
I
really
hope
that
the
county
starts
exploring
ways
to
look
at
Waste
Management.
That
way,
because
I
think
you
know,
we
just
can't
continue
going
on
like
this,
when,
especially
when
we
see
good
examples
from
other
countries
of
how
they're
doing
it,
because
they
actually
are
getting
paid
with
the
biofuel
sales
that
they
have,
that
they
make
out
of
their
their
waste
after
they
manage
it.
A
So
I
I
really
hope
that
somehow,
as
a
region,
we
adopt
that
I
appreciate
the
comments
regarding
the
burden
on
some
of
our
lower
income,
households
and
so
I
wonder
if
we
partnered
with
our
Human
Services
team
and
especially
with
the
we
should
have
a
list
of
people
who
have
received
rental
assistance,
so
I
hope
we're
doing
Outreach
to
those
in
those
households.
We
do
it.
We
are
okay,
yeah
and
you're
still
not
getting
any
well.
We
have.
W
A
E
A
A
You
know
solvent
by
doing
this
work
in
in
advance
of
catastrophe,
so
I
I
just
appreciate
your
Forward
Thinking
and
managing
it
our
resources
and
you're
doing
a
good
job.
It's
not
tough
council
member
Lee.
Thank
you.
I.
H
Was
going
to
have
you
say
the
last
word:
that's
why
thank
you.
You
know
I'm
on
the
King
County
region
over
the
quality
committee,
so
we
have
something
to
do
with
the
Wastewater
and
I
think
that
the
mayor
made
that
very,
very
legitimately
valid
point
that
the
biggest
costs
that
we
face.
You
know
I'll
repay
your
face.
H
It's
something
you
know
we
cannot
directly
control,
but
we
need
to
pay
attention
to
that
and
hopefully
working
as
a
regional
player,
because
we
share
the
same
challenge
with
all
the
sun
cities,
all
the
Suburban
cities,
and
so
we
all
have
to
work
through.
How
do
we
maintain
control?
How
do
we
look
at
it?
And
that's
one
thing?
So
if
you
look
at
the
you
know,
I
mean
page
16,
which
comes
to
remember
Robertson
mentioned
you
know
you
see
clearly,
especially
in
the
future.
H
We
can
maintain
our
rates
at
the
best
we
can,
but
if
we
don't
somehow
influence
the
rates,
the
King
County
has
it's
going
to
be
out
of
sight.
That's
one
second
I
want
to
mention,
as
a
liaison
to
as
the
city
council
to
the
commission.
I
really
appreciate
all
the
conversation
at
the
table.
I
mean
we
spent
40
minutes
talking
about
it
and
I'm
working
with
the
commission.
You
know
every
month
with
the
staff
and
I
think
this
is
a
real
good
conversation.
I
would
like
to
have
that
kind
of
you
know.
H
Unless
each
of
you
want
to
talk
to
the
commission
stop
separately.
You
know,
I
hope
that
you
know
I
have
to
your
wisdom.
Tell
me
about
it
and
I
can
share
with
the
commission.
Members
and
I
want
to
thank
again
the
commission
working
so
well
so
diligently
many
questions
you
raise,
they
already
work
on
it.
I
mean
you
know
as
the
the
credit
card,
the
monthly
billing
and
many
other
things
I.
H
So
it's
important
thanks
for
your
input
and
they'll
know
it
and
they're
listening
and
I
hope
they
hear
more
from
you
on
other
topics,
and
now
we
can
start
looking
at
thinking
about
it
and
then
there's
a
two-way
conversation
as
we
move
along
not
just
every
two
years
during
budget
discussion,
and
you
know
just
say:
well,
you
guys
do
well
go
away
and
then
we
find
out
later,
maybe
not
so
I
think
this
is
a
real
good
good
conversation
I
appreciate
that.
So
thank
you
again.
H
I
I
just
want
to
compliment
you
guys,
I
mean
not
to
to
stay.
The
city
council
is
way
behind,
but
you
guys
are
really
right
along
with
it,
if
not
on
top
of
it.
So
so
thank
you
and
you're
too
shy
to
say,
hey.
We
already
worked
on
it,
but
I
can
be
proud
to
say
that
some
of
the
things
you're
already
thinking
ahead.
Thank
you.
H
A
I
just
want
to
remind
everybody
that
our
next
meeting
is
canceled,
so
we're
going
to
be
back
in
session,
24th
I
think
October,
October
24th
perfect.
We
will
see
you
then
thank.