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A
B
D
A
B
F
Mayor
members
of
the
council,
speaking
on
behalf
of
bellevue
club,
I'm
bill
thursday
today
we're
at
a
crossroads
that
will
provide
a
landmark
gateway
to
bellevue
and
the
east
side.
I
wish
to
commend
the
council
for
listening
to
the
stakeholders
and
working
with
the
city
to
bring
together
the
vision
for
this
special
district.
F
In
particular,
we
appreciate
the
support,
protect
the
special
interests
of
the
bellevue
club
and
preserve
and
enhance
this
for
generations
ahead.
Well,
distinguished
for
our
landmark
athletic
resources,
we
are
far
more.
We
are
not
a
fitness
club
since
opening
we
included
significant
social
resources
in
1990,
we
added
hospitality
edition
of
67
rooms.
The
success
provided
the
support
for
subsequent
expansion
and
added
membership
capacity.
F
We
wish
to
build
upon
this
diversity
and
to
support
new
membership.
Interest
in
residency
has
often
been
expressed
as
something
members
would
appreciate.
The
opportunity
to
create
this
with
other
resources
will
create
a
special
destination.
Community
membership
would
be
a
requirement
as
in
every
other
part
of
our
business.
Additionally,
a
mix
of
other
resources
would
support
this
area
as
a
special
destination.
F
The
envelope
with
an
far
2.5
for
less
provided
and
supported
the
needs
of
this
property,
and
we
intend
to
be
within
that
with
more
limited
development.
Unfortunately,
the
latest
code
defines
the
expansion
of
the
club
to
athletic
or
hotel
resources.
We
have
proposed
that
the
council
amend
this
to
include
housing
in
other
areas.
F
Block
lengths
and
removal
from
other
requirements
of
the
commercial
district
are
important
to
preserve.
For
example,
we
are
not
a
retail
area
and
street
side.
Retail
does
not
fit
the
garden
property
and
boulevard.
We
wish
to
create
in
concluding
as
a
member
of
the
cac,
the
vision
and
detail
expressed
at
that
time
have
served
us
well.
The
success
of
the
commercial
district,
supported
through
rigged
properties,
is
consistent
with
this
vision,
which
also
wanted
to
see
a
grocery
store
as
a
key
piece
for
residents
and
neighborhoods
nearby.
We
support
this.
Thank
you.
B
G
Thank
you,
honorable
mayor
deputy
mayor
and
council
members,
I
would
like
to
discuss
our
two
final
requests
with
you
on
east
main.
One
is
the
phasing
of
the
minimum
residential
requirement,
and
the
second
is
the
importance
of
accommodating
a
grocery
store.
Regarding
the
first
item
on
the
phasing
of
the
minimum
residential
requirement,
the
more
square
feet
we
build
at
east
main
the
more
housing
we
are
required
to
provide,
because
the
minimum
housing
requirement
is
35
percent
of
the
total
square
feet
built
to
maximize
housing.
G
G
However,
if
we're
not
able
to
justify
multiple
high-rise
towers
with
affordable
units
by
then,
then
all
development,
including
all
housing,
would
come
to
a
stop,
therefore,
to
reduce
the
risk
of
shutting
down
all
development
and
hence
increase
the
chances
of
building
the
maximum
housing.
We
request
phasing
the
minimum
housing
requirement.
G
This
modification
should
be
in
the
luca
and
not
in
the
development
agreement.
Since
this
is
a
timing
issue
and
gives
us
no
additional
economic
benefit
to
justify
the
da
process
further
requiring
us
to
go
through
a
da
to
phase
the
minimum
housing
requirement
will,
ironically,
only
further
delay
housing.
While
we
wait
for
the
da
process
to
be
completed.
G
The
second
item
is
why
we
think
a
grocery
store
should
be
included
in
east
maine.
One,
a
grocery
store
was
one
of
the
main
amenities
that
surrey
downs
and
the
cac
wanted
to
see
in
east
maine.
Two
with
the
addition
of
a
minimum
of
fifteen
1500
homes
in
east
maine.
There
would
be
great
demand
for
a
grocery
store
in
this
new
neighborhood
three,
the
east
main
comprehensive
plan
already
states
under
policy
s
sw59
quote:
allow
grocery
stores
the
comprehensive
plan,
as
we
understand,
is
supposed
to
guide
the
policies
that
are
written
in
the
luca.
G
B
H
H
H
Pushing
the
block
length
exemption
for
grocery
store
to
a
future
da
will
force
a
grocery
store
to
either
delay
their
decision
until
a
da
is
approved
or
grocery
store
can
walk
away
from
east
main
because
they
do
not
want
to
wait
for
the
da
process
to
be
completed
in
either
case.
The
entire
project
is
delayed,
including
the
delivery
of
all
housing
and
affordable
housing
by
at
least
couple
years.
H
H
These
items
make
it
impractical
to
pursue
a
grocery
store
in
east
maine
because
of
low
margins,
expectation
to
pay
for
public
benefit
and
no
gain
in
height
or
density.
So
not
only
tenant
may
walk,
but
we
it
it
may
become
harder
for
us
to
justify
a
grocery
store.
In
summary,
there's
no
benefit
to
be
some
to
the
city
to
put
block
length
exemption
in
d.a.
H
In
fact,
putting
this
in
va
will
delay
the
project,
and
the
housing
second
item
is
how
block
length
requirement
affects
mom
and
pop
stores,
a
grocery
store
anchors,
a
development
and
brings
traffic
to
the
property.
This
allows
mom
and
pop
stores
to
survive
without
anchors
such
as
grocery
store,
mom
and
pops
generally
do
not
survive.
H
H
B
Thank
you,
mr
wig.
That
is
the
end
of
our
pre-registered
oral
communications
list.
At
this
point,
I
would
ask
if
there
is
anyone
else
participating
in
this
meeting
who
would
like
to
make
communication
to
the
council?
If
so,
please
use
the
raise
hand,
function
or
star
9
if
you're
connected
with
a
phone.
A
I
Yes,
mayor
and
council
members,
the
first
one
is
the
reappointment
of
the
seven
members
of
the
bellevue
convention
center
authority
board
for
the
terms
listed
in
the
management
brief
which
are
within
your
packets
and
just
by
way
of
background,
the
bellevue
convention
center
authorities
charter
requires
me
to
seek
your
concurrence
on
any
appointments
to
the
board.
As
I
mentioned,
I'm
planning
to
reappoint
the
existing
seven
members.
I
The
existing
board
has
done
a
tremendous
job
at
partnering
with
the
city
and
ensuring
the
continued
viability
of
the
of
the
convention
center
throughout
the
impacts
of
covet.
The
reappointments
are
also
supported
by
the
bcc
executive
director.
Again,
I
am
seeking
your
concurrence
and
I
turn
it
back
to
you.
Mayor.
A
C
C
I
think
that
as
we
move
forward,
we'll
continue
to
have
challenges
because
the
revenue,
because
of
the
challenges
with
covid-
and
we
are
not
back
at
capacity
by
any
means
in
terms
of
conventions
and
different
activities,
so
we'll
continue
to
appreciate
their
guidance
and
their
expertise
as
we
move
forward.
Thank
you.
I
Mayor
council
members,
I'm
gonna
just
go
to
the
next
item
mayor.
If
you
don't
mind,
and
it
is
a
good
news
story,
it
is
on
the
bellevue
essentials
this
evening,
council
we're
going
to
hear
an
informational
update
on
the
2021
essentials
program.
Last
week
the
program
saw
its
ninth
year,
graduating
class,
which
consisted
of
31
residents
joining
us
this
evening
is
mark
heilman,
our
neighborhood
outreach
manager
and
two
graduates
from
the
class
ken
roslin
now,
as
well
as
michelle
rainville.
With
that
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
tomorrow.
Mark.
J
It
appears
that
michelle
may
be
having
some
technical
difficulties,
but
we
are
so
glad
to
be
with
you
this
evening.
Thank
you,
mayor,
robinson
and
council
for
joining
us.
One
of
you
was
with
us
each
evening
of
our
12
weeks
of
bellevue
essentials.
J
This
was
a
year
that
we
didn't
anticipate
all
of
us
in
many
ways,
and
so
this
was
our
second
year
being
virtual,
with
neighborhood
being
out
in
the
neighborhoods
and
in
hosting
bellevue
essentials.
This
year
we
did
everything
that
we
could
that
we
could
safely
do
to
connect
class
members
together.
The
first
evening
we
had
folks
come
to
to
the
bellevue
botanical
gardens
to
pick
up
dinner,
so
we
could
have
dinner
together.
J
J
Most
often,
it
was
just
a
really
hopeful
evening,
and
it
was
great
too
to
hear
both
from
our
our
class
member
and
from
randy
yang
and
so
to
be
able
to
celebrate
together
something
that
we
had
accomplished
that
we
didn't
anticipate
doing
this
remotely
once
again
to
have
the
words
engaging
inspiring
and
home,
be
the
words
that
would
come
together
for
residents
as
they
look
back
on.
The
12
weeks
was
just
very
much
what
what
we
would
express
as
staff
as
well.
J
J
I
think
this
is
the
sixth
or
seventh
year
that
we
have
done
a
doodle
biz
illustration
and
we
very
much
want
to
give
voice
and
to
be
able
to
have
the
class
express
what
their
city
means
to
them,
and
so
this
year
the
question
was:
how
have
you
seen
our
community
shine
through
covet
and
the
emphasis
here
is
on
hashtag,
bellevue
strong,
and
so
you
can
see
and
we'll
have
opportunities
for
you
to
see
this
closer
in
future
days
council,
but
very
much
things
that
our
residents
are
proud
of
ways
that
they
can
contribute
and
ways
that
they
look
forward
to
the
future
with
tremendous
amount
of
hope.
J
J
Okay,
so
sorry
about
that.
Well,
I
will
share
one
comment
from
another
resident,
though
that,
as
we
got
comments
from
residents,
they
were
very
much
along
this
line.
Shawna
ocksmith
said
what
was
impactful
for
me.
Is,
I
feel,
more,
a
part
of
the
city
of
bellevue.
I
feel
more
informed,
more
empowered,
knowing
what
my
city
has
to
offer,
and
that
makes
me
want
to
give
more
and
to
participate
more
actively
as
a
resident
of
bellevue.
J
So,
even
though
we
need
to
do
this
year
remotely
once
again,
the
residents
just
entered
in
it
is
just
a
tremendously
diverse
class
of
31
and
one
things
we're
very
proud
of
as
well
is
julie
has
put
together
a
packet
for
other
cities
to
know
how
to
how
to
host
something
comparable
to
bellevue
essentials,
and
this
year
we
tried
to
max
maximize
as
many
benefits
as
we
possibly
could,
and
one
of
those
was
is
that
we
had
eight
different
cities
from
three
different
states
that
joined
us
to
learn
about
bellevue
essentials
and
replicating
in
that
in
their
cities
as
well.
J
So
we're
very
proud
of
what
julie,
ellenhorn
and
the
rest
of
our
entire
staff
have
been
able
to
accomplish.
So
then,
I'm
going
to
turn
to
ken
rosnell,
who
is
one
of
our
residents.
That
was
one
of
the
31
that
was
with
us.
We
had
almost
100
participation
as
we
were
able
to
do
this
virtually
so
again,
we'll
turn
to
you
and
thank
you
so
much
for
sharing
with
us
tonight.
Ken
rosner.
K
K
In
my
25
years
of
living
at
bellevue,
I've
been
involved
in
a
variety
of
volunteer
opportunities
from
coaching
little
league
to
being
a
member
of
the
bellevue
cert
leadership
board,
and
also
the
president
of
the
surrey
downs
community
club.
After
hearing
great
reviews
about
bellevue
essentials.
Over
the
last
couple
years,
I
decided
to
apply
to
the
bellevue
essentials
2021
class
and
to
gain
more
knowledge
of
the
inner
workings
of
bellevue
and
was
honored
to
be
given
one
of
those
slots
during
the
10-week
class.
K
I
will
also
be
reaching
out
to
the
other
bellevue
essential
graduates
bees,
as
I
now
know
that
they're
called
for
future
volunteer
opportunities
and
also
to
leverage
their
collective
wisdom
from
their
volunteer
experiences
and
as
a
current
president
of
our
siri
downs,
neighborhood
community
club.
I'm
planning
on
sharing
this
information
that
I've
learned
in
this
program
with
the
other
neighbors
in
the
hopes
that
we'll
keep
our
neighborhood
strong
and
also
spur
volunteerism,
not
only
in
the
neighborhood
but
across
the
city
as
well
as
the
city
continues
to
grow.
K
Additional
pressures
will
be
placed
on
neighborhoods
and
having
its
residents.
Aware
of
these
pressures
will
hopefully
allow
neighbors
to
become
more
engaged
and
see
the
future
direction
of
the
city
and
not
only
the
way,
I'm
sorry
kind
of
mixed
mixing
my
words
up
here.
What
I
want
to
say
was,
as
the
city
continues
to
grow,
there
will
be
additional
pressures
placed
on
neighborhoods
and
having
the
residents
aware
of
these
pressures
and
become
engaged
in
the
future
direction
of
the
city
can
only
lead
bellevue
to
stay
strong
and
remain
a
vibrant
community.
K
It's
my
hope
that
bellevue
community
bellevue
essentials
will
continue
its
run
in
the
years
ahead
and
also
additional
residents
will
want
to
remain
engaged
in
volunteering
with
the
city.
As
this.
K
Given
a
lot
to
me,
and
hopefully,
this
class
with
its
great
resources
of
information,
inspiration
and
motivation
will
guide
others,
and
I
again
want
to
thank
the
council
and
staff
for
making
bellevue
such
a
great
city.
Thank
you.
J
J
A
Thank
you
mark
and
ken.
It's
really
gratifying
to
see
so
many
of
our
residents
as
passionate
about
the
city
moving
in
the
right
direction,
as
we
all
are-
and
I
see
a
lot
of
our
council
values
reflected
in
the
our
art
work
with
all
the
inspiring
words.
So
that's
terrific.
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
miyake.
Did
you
have
anything
else
to
share.
A
A
I
Sure,
thank
you
mayor
council
members.
The
first
item
on
your
study
session
agenda
this
evening
is
the
value
police,
community
crisis
assistant
team
trial,
update
also
known
as
by
way
of
background.
The
bellevue
police
department
and
fire
department
cares
program
conducted
a
pilot
program
in
an
effort
to
better
respond
to
calls
for
service
involving
persons
in
crisis
who
are
suffering
who
are
suffering
from
behavioral
health
effects.
I
This
topic
was
last
in
front
of
council
back
on
march
15th
of
this
year
and
joining
this
evening
to
present
and
answer
any
questions
you
might
have
our
chief
wendell
shirley
police,
chief,
wendell
shirley
andrew
popchak,
major
with
the
police
department
and
captain
alicia
mckinney,
also
with
the
police
department,
as
well
as
jay
hagan,
fire
chief
and
natasha
grossman.
The
bellevue
cares
fire
fire
cares
program
manager.
M
Thank
you
brad
good
evening,
mayor
robinson,
deputy
mayor
newinghouse
and
city
council
members.
It's
a
pleasure
to
be
before
you
this
evening.
The
goal
of
our
presentation
is
to
update
you
on
the
results
of
the
community
crisis
assistant
team
pilot
program,
better
known
as
ccat
that
was
implemented
by
your
bellevue
police
department
and
the
police
and
the
bellevue
fire
department's
cares
program.
M
As
we
all
know,
cities
across
the
country
continue
to
explore
different
models
and
strategies
for
how
to
better
respond
to
people
in
crisis,
particularly
those
suffering
from
behavioral
health
crises.
Far
too
often,
the
traditional
response
has
been
ill-equipped.
Police
officers
handling
these
situations,
with
no
assistance
from
any
other
service
provider
and,
in
most
cases,
have
handled
them
successfully.
M
However,
unfortunately
far
too
many
of
these
encounters
have
ended,
tragically
in
response
and
in
our
commitment
to
providing
the
best
possible
service
to
those
that
live
work
and
visit
the
city
of
bellevue.
The
decision
was
made
to
test
a
pilot
program
ccat
to
evaluate
a
different
approach
to
how
the
bellevue
police
department
would
respond
to
people
in
crisis.
M
M
N
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
come
talk
about
cares
this
evening
tonight
we're
going
to
share
an
overview
of
the
pilot
program
that
we
conducted
over
a
four
month
period
in
tonight's
presentation,
we're
going
to
work
through
the
background
what
the
program
development
was
like
and
then
an
overview
of
the
program
itself.
N
I
want
to
say
that,
as
we
work
through
the
presentation
tonight,
all
of
the
quotes
that
you'll
see
as
well
as
the
quotes
in
the
later
program
evaluation
are
the
words
of
the
people
that
c-caps
served
the
members
of
the
ccap
team
itself,
community
organizations
that
the
ccap
worked
with
and
others
he
had
contact
with
throughout
the
work.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
their
quotes
and
voices
were
heard
during
this
presentation.
N
So
the
background
of
how
we
came
to
developing
ccat
was
that
we
are
seeing
an
increase
in
calls
involving
subjects
in
crisis
and
those
in
behavioral
health
crisis.
Specifically,
as
you
can
see
by
statistics,
we've
seen
an
increase
in
the
amount
of
calls
and
specifically
with
the
statistics.
These
are
just
calls
that
were
titled
suicide
and
mental
emotional.
There
were
other
calls
that
had
to
do
with
people
in
crisis
that
were
not
titled.
This
way.
N
With
this
increase,
we
knew
we
had
to
do
something
differently,
not
just
internally,
but
the
community
expected
something
differently.
As
the
chief
spoke
about
spoke
about,
we
don't
think
the
best
option
is
to
have
officers
arrive
and
try
to
handle
it
with
only
a
legal
response.
We
had
to
look
at
it
from
a
different
perspective
and,
with
the
community
expectation,
respond
differently
to
those
in
crisis.
That
includes
a
de-escalation.
It
includes
providing
additional
resource.
N
N
What's
best
for
the
resident
of
the
city
that
we're
serving
the
other
piece
is
we
wanted
to
make
sure
we
built
partnerships
in,
and
that
was
part
of
our
development
process,
was
to
meet
and
sit
down
and
have
discussions
with
our
community
partners
and
ask
them
what
they
wanted
in
a
program
that
we
were
working
on
and
developing
what
were
their
needs?
How
could
we
better
serve
those
organizations
or
better
to
serve
the
person
in
the
community
with
a
crisis
and
how
they
get
the
resources
from
those
organizations.
N
How
we
decided
to
do
that
was
that
we
developed
the
community
crisis
assistance
team
and
what
that
is
a
coordinated
response
between
the
police
and
fire
department
working
together
for
the
best
outcome
for
the
person
in
crisis.
It
was
about
the
time
the
training
and
the
perspectives
that
came
together
to
make
this
team
successful.
N
We
had
to
first
spend
the
time
with
the
person,
and
usually
police
officers
are
called
to
call
to
call
what
we
did
is
we
took
the
time
perspective
out.
We
said
you
could
spend
as
much
time
as
you
want
in
the
call.
There
was
another
call
waiting
for
you.
You
spend
the
time
needed
to
make
sure
this
person
got
the
help
that
they
they
needed
as
well
as
continue
to
build
that
relationship.
That
person
needs
to
reach
out
to
you
tomorrow
or
next
week,
you're
there
to
continue
that
connection.
N
People
in
crisis
can
sometimes
respond
differently
to
if
dealing
with
the
same
person
over
and
over,
because
you
build
that
relationship,
it
was
training.
It
was
spending
the
time
to
train
our
officers
in
many
different
forms
of
dealing
with
people
in
trauma.
It's
spending
the
time
and
understanding
what
someone
in
christ
is
how
they're
at
and
looking
and
seeing
those
those
critical
issues
before
they
came
up
and
de-escalating
that
person
and
bringing
them
back
down.
N
N
If
they
had
the
answer,
they
could
bounce
it
off
of
me
that
perspective
of
seeing
the
world
differently
and
understanding
the
differences
of
the
two
different
perspectives,
the
fire
perspective
and
the
police
perspective
was
about
having
the
best
outcome.
For
that
person
we
looked
around.
We
realized
the
best
partnership
is
the
one
we
already
had.
N
Our
police
department
and
fire
department
have
a
phenomenal
relationship
all
the
way
down
to
our
aed
program,
where
we
code
dispatch
and
heart
attack
between
the
police
department
and
fire
department
together,
because
the
police
department
knows
they
can
get
there
and
start
the
process
and
the
fire
department
gets
here
to
save
the
person's
life.
It's
working
together
with
mental
health,
like
we
already
work
together
with
medical
calls.
N
So
how
do
we
do
this?
We
sat
down
and
we
decided
to
evaluate
three
different
models.
One
model
is
the
police
officer
and
the
mhp
working
together,
like
I
discussed
before
the
perspectives
of
the
two
people
sitting
in
that
car
together
having
those
discussions
at
scene
who
relates
better
with
the
person
in
crisis.
How
can
we
work
together
to
serve
that
person
in
a
way
that
is
best
for
them?
N
The
other
option
we
tried
was
a
two
officer
model.
We
have
two
officers
with
specific
training,
specific
uniforming
and
the
working
together
to
bounce
ideas
off
of
each
other.
These
officers,
as
you
can
see
from
the
photograph
here,
we
trust
them
differently.
They're
not
wearing
a
traditional
blue
uniform,
because
we
understand
this
uniform
can
hear
it
carry
some
history
with
it
that
there
can
be
a
reaction
from
someone
in
crisis
of
a
uniform,
that's
different,
so
we
we
have
them
we're
playing
a
plane,
closed,
uniform
that
was
different.
N
N
We
train
these
officers
in
mental
health.
First
aid
crisis
intervention
trauma
all
of
that
training
went
in
so
that
they
win
these
situations.
Aware
of
the
person
they're
dealing
with
in
crisis,
and
part
of
that
is,
we
diverted
the
calls
at
9-1-1
and
the
call
came
in.
We
diverted
that
9-1-1
call
specifically
two
officers
trained
for
officers
and
mhps
trained
to
deal
with
individuals
in
crisis,
and
that
was
a
key
piece
of
this
of
how
we
team
that
up.
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
natasha
grossman
to
discuss,
cares
101.
L
So
cares:
101
is
the
third
model,
which
was
basically
what
we
already
have
in
place.
101
as,
as
you
all
know,
cares
has
been
in
in
existence
since
2012,
and
there
was
always
a
partnership
between
fire
and
police
to
address
folks
in
our
city
who
were
calling
9-1-1
but
really
needed
a
different
kind
of
response.
They
needed
some
connection
to
resources
or
some
other
kinds
of
support
or
case
management,
and
then
in
2017
we
set
up
a
response.
L
Unit
cares
101,
that's
in
service
7
days
a
week
and
it's
staffed
by
two
professional
social
workers
who
can
come
on
scene
on
a
911
call
one
either
fire
or
police
is
on
scene.
It
feels
like
it'd,
be
helpful
to
have
a
social
worker
there,
somebody
who
can
either
help
with
de-escalation
or
provide
resources
or
sit
with
somebody
so
that
the
fire
crew
or
the
police
officer
can
get
back
into
service
and
be
with
other
people
or
go
to
the
hospital
or
support
family
members.
N
So
when
we
entered
this
program,
we
we
set
the
goals
from
their
very
beginning.
The
goal
was
to
improve
community
police
response
to
mental
illness
by
diverting
individuals
from
the
criminal
justice
system.
N
So
when
that
person
was
in
crisis,
we
had
at
all
available
resources
at
the
time
of
the
call,
the
units
were
not
dispatched
to
priority
one
incidences,
the
highest
priority
incidents.
They
were
triaged
from
the
lower
priority
consensus
to
make
sure
that
the
person
got
the
resources
they
need.
The
other
thing
we
want
to
do
is
address
underlying
issues
to
improve
the
quality
of
life
of
others
and
reduce
citizens
recidivism.
N
The
point
of
reducing
the
improving
the
quality
of
life
is
the
person
that's
in
crisis.
Maybe
no
doesn't
is
having
trouble
caring
for
themselves.
It's
not
about
the
person
on
the
street.
It
could
be
someone
inside
of
their
home.
This
was
very
specifically
designed
to
be
a
program
to
serve
anybody
in
crisis,
no
matter
if
they
were
housed
unhoused,
where
they
were
in
the
city
when
they
were
dispatched,
they
sent
to
to
discuss
it
to
talk
to
that
person
and
improve
their
quality
of
life.
What
resources
could
we
provide
to
them
to
make
it
better?
N
The
outcomes
we
looked
at
from
the
very
beginning
was:
is
it
best
served
a
person,
it's
not
about?
How
does
it
serve
the
officer?
As
for
the
city,
have
we
served
the
resident
of
bellevue
best
and
it's
not
providing
immediate
care?
That
was
a
key
piece
that
we
built
in
business.
It
wasn't
just
about
the
initial
care
of
triaging
at
the
scene.
It
was
the
follow-up
care
that
cares,
provided
the
person,
an
ability
to
contact
the
officer
contact
carers,
because
we
understand
this
is
not
a
one-touch
issue.
N
We
can't
just
go
out
there
and
touch
this
person
once
and
help
them
deal
with
the
issues
that
they're
having
this
was
a
repeated
contact
where
it
went
over
and
over
and
over
again
and
talked
to
that
person
built
those
relationships.
We
wanted
to
increase,
increase
patrol
time
to
focus
on
crime.
We
want
our
officers
that
are
trained
in
a
criminal
apprehension
to
go
out
there
and
deal
with
traffic
stops
or
traffic
motor
officers
do
motors.
These
officers
are
specifically
designed.
This
program
was
designed
to
deal
with
that
and
release
our
control
officers.
N
To
do
other
tasks.
We
wanted
to
reduce
the
use
of
force,
incidences,
the
arrests
and
jailbirdies.
We
wanted
to
divert
people
from
the
very
beginning
to
the
resources
they
need
rather
than
jail,
and
then
we
want
the
community
collaboration.
We
know
we
can't
do
this
alone.
Just
like
the
aed
example,
I
gave
it's
the
police
department
working
with
organizations
in
the
community
to
get
the
resources
that
person
needs.
Rather
than
saying
that
we
are
the
one
stop
shop,
it
doesn't
work
that
way.
We
have
to
work
with
other
resources
in
the
community.
N
Well,
my
apologies.
I
believe
it's
I'm
hanging
back
on
the
toxic
postman
back.
L
To
me,
so
we
ran
the
pilot
for
four
months.
It
started
in
may
on
may
1st
and
adam's
on
august
31st,
and
during
that
time
we
were
very
lucky
to
have
an
academic
program
evaluation
by
carol
harper
carol.
Harper
has
been
the
program
evaluator
for
the
cares
program
since
2015.
She
has
an
annual
program
evaluation
for
us
and
has
developed
a
whole
evaluation
system
database
system,
a
lot
of
support
for
our
program
and
she
very
generously
pro
bono
offered
to
volunteer
and
do
a
program
evaluation
for
this
program.
L
She
has
been
doing
this
for
30
years.
She's
been
a
researcher
for
50
years,
she's,
a
formal
faculty
member
of
the
university
of
washington
and
the
research
manager
there
and
she
so
she's
a
lot
of
experience
and
she
knew
care.
So
she
she
really
understood
the
kind
of
work
that
we're
doing
so.
The
kind
of
data
that
we've
come
that
we
pulled
for
from
her
report,
which
we
talked
about
a
little
bit
later.
L
So
what
you
can
see
here
is
that
we
had
1785
client
contacts
and
what
that
meant
was
contacts
with
or
on
behalf
of
the
client
of
the
client.
We
were
served
so
that
could
have
been
somebody
who
was
seen
by
the
police
officers
or
the
or
the
mhps
or
even
our
our
msw
students,
who
would
do
the
follow-up
in
case
management.
L
It
could
be
talking
to
someone
on
behalf
of
them
talking
to
a
provider
making
a
referral
to
a
service
provider
making
connections
talking
with
family
members,
but
there
were
1785
client
contact
contacts
during
that
time
and
we
had
239
clients
engaged
and
engaged
meant
that
they
said
yes,
we're
going
to.
Those
are
the
23
people
that
that
the
c-cad
officers
actually
made
contact
with
of
those
the
c-cut
officers?
Would
then
ask,
or
the
image
would
ask,
would
you
like
cares
to
follow
up
with
you?
L
Would
you
like
ongoing
support
and
if
people
said
yes,
then
cares
would
provide
that
kind
of
case
management
that
we've
already
been
doing
again
since
2012
with
police
and
fire
and
108
of
the
folks
who
were
asked
said
yes,
we
would
like
that
kind
of
follow-up,
so
108
additional
people
referred
to
cares
and
of
those
100
were
brand
new
clients,
people
with
whom
we'd
never
had
contact
or
had
never
been
referred
to
us
before
in
just
those
four
months.
L
So
there
was
a
significant
amount
of
need
that
was
found
by
this
group
of
people
next
slide.
L
Please,
and
what
we
also
found
was
that
the
people
with
whom
this
team
engaged
were
generally
had
more
than
one
issue,
so
we
were
tracking
what
what
were
the
issues
that
had
us
seeing
them
or
that
they
talked
about
when
we
were
meeting
with
them
and
as
you
can
see,
the
top
three
issues
were
some
sort
of
mental
behavioral
health
issue
or
crisis
that
they
were
currently
unhoused
or
that
they
were
substance
using,
and
I
think,
what's
most
significant
is
65
of
the
people
that
we
contacted
actually
had
some
co-occurring
issues.
L
So
these
were
significant.
These
were
people
who
had
very
complex
issues
and
who
needed
more
than
a
one-time
contact.
They
needed
ongoing
support
and
follow-up
and
really
needed
to
be
connected
to
services,
and
that
was
what
the
ccat
and
cares
program
and
partnership
were
able
to
provide
for
them
next
slide.
Please.
O
Due
to
the
significant
increase
of
these
clients,
it
was
important
for
ccat
to
understand
who
they
were
serving.
Natasha
just
spoke
about
what
kind
of
issues
are
clients
presented
from
mental
health,
to
substance
use
and
to
homelessness?
This
chart
is
going
to
demonstrate
the
actual
client
demographics.
O
O
O
What
the
pilot
determined
was
that
the
majority
of
these
calls
came
from
a
response
to
a
911
generated
call.
This
is
significant,
because
what
this
tells
us
is
is
that
actual
citizens
or
visitors
are
calling
911
generating
these
calls
and
that
they're
coming
in
through
pd.
O
Not
only
were
the
types
of
calls
important,
but
during
the
pilot
it
was
important
to
understand
the
complex
nature
of
the
individual
suffering
from
behavioral
crisis.
O
Most
of
the
time
spent
on
calls
can
take
a
significant
amount
of
the
officer's
time,
as
you
saw
earlier
in
the
powerpoint,
it
could
take
up
to
two
hours
for
an
officer
to
clear
a
call
and
many
of
the
times.
These
resulted
in
undesirable
outcomes
like
going
to
jail
or
going
to
hospital
ccap
wanted
to
resolve
this
issue
and
understood
that
time
is
of
the
essence,
and
that
was
important
to
build
relationships,
find
solutions
and
also
address
underlying
issues.
O
O
It
was
wonderful
to
have
someone
specific
to
call
who
knows
a
situation
when
I
was
concerned
and
worried
and
not
have
to
call
9-1-1
again
and
again
and
explain
the
whole
story
again
see
cat
knows
my
sister.
Only
because
c-cat
had
a
relationship
with
my
sister,
she
got
the
needed
help
and
I
got
help
too.
O
We
also
saw
an
increased
diversion
rate
from
the
hospital
or
jails.
We
know
that
one
of
the
major
frustrations
amongst
the
community
is
that
many
of
the
individuals
suffering
from
behavioral
crisis
end
up
in
the
criminal
justice
center
or
the
hospital
emergency
room,
just
because
there's
no
other
place
to
take
them
when
creating
ccat.
We
recognize
this
response
may
not
be
the
most
effective
for
the
client.
As
such,
one
of
the
outcomes
of
ccap
was
to
increase,
increase
the
diversion
rates
away
from
the
jails
in
the
hospitals.
O
O
In
fact,
amongst
the
c-cat
officers
in
four
months,
there
were
only
five
uses
of
force
total,
and
what
we
saw
was
that
four
of
those
uses
of
force
occurred
in
the
first
two
months.
One
occurred
in
the
third
month
and
zero
occurred
in
the
fourth
month.
This
showed
a
decreasing
trend
of
the
use
of
force.
We
attribute
this
to
the
officers
being
non-uniformed,
having
a
higher
level
training
being
able
to
take
time
on
the
calls
and
all
and
being
able
to
find
creative
solutions
for
our
clients.
O
In
fact,
one
of
our
clients,
one
of
cat's
clients.
He
was
having
a
mental
health
issue.
One
day
he
came
back
and
he
said
it
was
really
bad.
My
breakdown
was
so
bad.
I
was
out
of
it
lying
on
the
floor
crying
when
I
started
to
come
out
of
it.
I
was
surrounded
by
four
to
five
cops
in
uniforms
with
big
guns,
but
one
guy
was
in
a
different,
uniform
started
to
talk
in
a
calm
gentle
voice.
O
He
asked
about
my
tattoos,
the
music
group
I
liked
because
there
were
posters
on
the
walls
he
connected
with
me,
the
c-cat
officer
related
to
me.
I
think
he
saved
my
life,
I'm
a
big
guy.
I
think.
If
it
wasn't
for
him,
it
would
have
all
gone
south
really
fast
and
he
might
have
got
up
fighting
next
slide.
O
So
what
did
we
learn
from
the
pilot
program
and
we
realized
that
ccap
did
create
outcomes
that
were
desired?
We
realized
that
it
fulfilled
a
community
need.
Last
year
we
heard
the
outrage
in
the
oir
listening
sessions.
There
was
the
public
pledge
to
our
citizens
to
review
our
uses
of
force.
We
had
new
laws
and
there
was
community
concern.
O
O
O
L
O
O
We
want
to
make
that
interaction
as
safe
as
possible
through
non-triggering
symbols,
compassion,
training
and
service,
one
testimonial
from
one
of
our
unhoused
clients.
He
says
when
I
first
came
to
bellevue
and
they
stopped
me.
They
saw
that
I
was
new
and
they
wanted
to
say
hello,
and
I
wasn't
in
any
trouble.
So
on
my
first
day
in
bellevue,
the
seacat
officer
got
me
lunch
and
water
when
you're
covered
in
dirt
and
dirty
they
don't
make
you
feel
like
a
grimy
scumbag.
O
O
We
also
understood
that
that
one
of
the
outcomes
is
that
we
were
providing
solutions,
we're
providing
solutions
for
clients,
families,
stakeholders,
we
could
information
share
where
we,
the
police,
could
lack
information
at
times
through
how
many
times
an
individual
has
been
involved.
How
many
times
the
person
has
been
seen
by
a
medical
professional
for
what
diagnosis?
We
can't
diagnose
them,
but
we
can
work
and
find
out
those
those
things
in
order
to
make
better
solutions
for
the
individual
and
make
better
decisions.
O
This
is
really
important
because
again,
there's
a
lot
of
stakeholders
in
this
program,
and
it
was
important
that
we
use
our
resources
that
we
already
had
partner
together
and
create
a
solution
for
our
community
and
finally-
and
I
think
most
importantly,
we
enhance
the
quality
of
life
again.
This
was
about
our
clients,
and
this
is
about
our
clients,
families.
P
We
really
thought
it
was
important
to
ask
some
of
the
questions
about
what
we
were
studying
and
have
carol
help
us
with
that.
For
a
couple
reasons.
One
is
that
she
has
the
kind
of
academic
credentials
that
we
will
be
able
to
sort
of
stand
behind
the
results
we
do
get
and
we
hope
to
be
able
to
continue
better
contribute,
maybe
best
practices
to
the
field
of
study
going
forward.
Regardless
of
what
we
choose
to
do.
P
The
report
has
both
qualitative
and
quantitative
information,
so
we'll
be
sharing
with
you.
Some
hard
data,
and
also,
I
think,
carol-
did
some
30
plus
interviews
with
clients
that
we
serve
dispatchers
other
service
providers,
and
so
you
should
get
a
couple
different
kind
of
views
on
that
information
and
then
we're
going
to
be
seeking
your
guidance
and
your
thoughts
and
then
we'll
start
working
on
an
outreach
strategy,
and
we
would
plan
to
use
the
engaging
bellevue
website
to
do
that,
as
well
as
leveraging
the
existing
police
advisory
councils.
P
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
opportunity
to
to
share
with
you
what
we
did
on
this
pilot.
What
we
learned.
P
A
Q
All
right,
thank
you,
mayor
and
also
thank
you
to
chi,
shirley,
tk,
again
mayor
major
papajok,
captain
mckinney
and
natasha,
first
of
all,
for
the
thoughtfulness
and
the
approach
that
you
all
have
taken
to
to
put
together,
ccat
and
and
execute
on
that.
Q
I
also
just
want
to
note
that
I
had
a
chance
to
see
c-cat
in
action
a
couple
of
times
I
popped
up
based
on
a
couple
emails
that
we
received
and
really
appreciated
the
trust
that
the
c-cat
team
had
developed
with
the
members
of
the
community
who
run
the
house
and
just
to
the
point
that
was
made
earlier.
Q
The
time
that
was
taken
so
really
appreciate
that
I
appreciate
the
the
experimental
approach
given
that
there
are
a
number
of
programs
out
there,
and
I
guess
one
of
my
questions
is
in
addition
to
not
an
exclusion
of
the
current
approaches
that
we
took.
Was
there
any
discussion
around
testing
a
program
where
the
mental
health
provider
went
out
and
in
scenarios
where
it
made
sense?
So
I
get
that
it's
not.
Q
But
what
are
we
are
we
committing
at
least
to
saying
that
we're
gonna
have
some
program,
some
continuation
of
a
program
based
on
the
findings
and
it's
just
a
matter
of
seeing
what
it
is
going
to
look
like
and
how
it's
going
to
be
designed.
Or
are
we
even
waiting
to
see
if
we're
going
to
have
some
program
to
continue
this
work.
M
Thank
you,
councilman
mark
still,
first
off
I
gotta
let
natasha
maybe
speak
to
the
first
part
as
it
relates
to
looking
at
other
programs
right.
If
we're
doing
that,
or
not
only
having
say
hypothetically
cares,
mental
health
workers
respond
only.
L
So
that
that
is
something
that
many
people
have
asked
us
about.
One
thing
that
was,
I
have
to
say
surprising,
even
the
mhps
that
I'd
like
you
to
know,
is
that
there
were
times
when
the
mhps
went
out
with
the
police
officers
and
the
client
that
they
were
talking
to
had
absolutely
no
interest
in
talking
to
the
mhp
wanted
nothing
to
do
with
them.
L
They
wanted
to
talk
to
the
police
officer,
so
I
think
that
we
don't
know
who
necessarily
who
people
want
to
talk
when
we
get
there,
but
most
importantly,
the
dispatchers
have
less
than
a
minute
to
be
able
to
identify,
what's
happening
on
the
other
end
of
the
phone
and
oftentimes.
L
When
we
get
there,
it's
not
at
all
what
anyone
thought
it
was
going
to
be
and
for
us
we're
just
really
concerned
about
the
safety
of
our
social
workers,
and
we
are
not
we're
just
not
sure
that
we
can
get
enough
information
to
know
what
it
is
that
we're
walking
into,
and
we
just
want
to
keep
people
safe.
We
really
want
the
social
workers
to
be
safe.
L
So,
for
that
reason,
we've
chosen
to
say
that
we're
not
gonna
go
out
without
voice
on
calls
that
were
generated
as
police
calls
at
this
at
this
time-
and
I
don't
know
chicago-
wants
to
say
anything
more
about
that.
M
Thank
you
natasha
and
councilman
barksdale.
Regarding
your
your
second
question
about
the
data
report,
will
it
be
available
before
the
retreat?
We
certainly
want
to
make
sure
that's
the
case.
It
goes
through
his
review
process
so
and
to
the
city
manager's
office,
so
that
we
can
get
it
to
you
guys
as
soon
as
possible
and
your
last
question
as
it
relates
to
what's
happening
in
the
interim.
M
Well,
once
the
ccat
pilot
ended,
those
offices
went
back
integrated
back
into
patrol,
but
they
did
not
stop
applying
the
lessons
learned
and
the
training
that
they
got
on
calls
for
service
and
the
second
part
of
that
is
you
know.
M
The
goal
is
to
also
train
all
of
our
patrol
officers
right
in
this
type
of
approach,
because
ccat
will
not
only
won't
be
the
only
officers
responding
to
these
type
of
calls,
so
we're
certainly
working
to
integrate
that
into
our
entire
patrol
force,
so
that
everyone
has
those
skills
and
understanding,
and
it's
my
understanding,
anecdotally,
that
since
the
pilot
ended,
our
regular
patrol
officers
have
been
making
more
referrals
to
their
cares,
probably
than
they
ever
have.
So
that's
certainly
the
plan
moving
forward.
Q
C
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
actually
reiterate
my
fellow
councilmember
bartsdale's
comment
about
how
we
keep
this
going
as
much
as
we
can,
because
it
is
so
successful
and
just
thank
you
because
I
do
believe
that
you
know
we
are
very
thoughtful
and
looking
at
how
we
provide
and
develop
a
program
that
works
for
our
community
and
a
couple
things
I
want
to
highlight,
because
I
really
think
it's
so
meaningful
what
you
said
about
making
the
interactions
as
safe
as
possible
and
really
what
I
heard
is
that
this
is
about
meeting
people
where
they
are
and
providing
them
with
what
they
need
and
community
expectations,
safety
and
partnerships.
C
What
I
wanted
to
understand
is
as
we
as
I
was
looking
at
the
partners.
I
see
cfh
nami
sophia
way,
overlake
and
yet,
as
I
think,
about
diversion
from
hospitals
and
jails,
I
I'm
curious
about.
Where
are
they
diverting
to?
C
Because
I,
as
I
look
at
these
different
service
providers,
I
don't
know
that
they
have
the
bandwidth
either
for
the
kind
of
behavioral
and
mental
health
services
that
the
clients
need,
and
so
is
there
some
lobbying
and
advocacy.
We
need
to
be
doing
to
create
more
of
these
landing
locations
for
the
for
the
clients
and
it's
just
in
time,
so
that
as
they
have
needs
that
we're
actually
able
to
truly
provide
that
diversion.
C
So
that's
one
of
my
questions
and
then
my
second
one
is,
you
briefly
touched
on
norcom,
but
I
would
like
to
understand
a
bit
more
about
how
we
really
partner
there
so
that
as
they
take
the
calls,
what
are
the
right
questions
to
ask
to
be
able
to
better
triage
what
the
clients
might
need,
which
then
leads
me
to
my
other
question,
which
is
I
note
that
at
the
state
level,
we've
adopted
the
988
system
and
it's
in
the
middle
of
of
creating
that
system
and
resources.
C
I
was
exciting
to
see
that
later
on
in
our
agenda,
there
is
a
note
about
at
the
federal
level,
for
our
legislative
update
that
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
get
some
federal
funding
for
ccat,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
we
don't
leave
any
money
on
the
table
at
the
state
level
either
if
the
988
is
going
to
come
with
funds.
So
those
were
some
of
my
comments
and
questions.
Thank
you
so
much.
C
M
Thank
you,
council
members
on
so
for
questions,
one
and
three
the
resources
available.
Where
are
they
being
diverted
to
and
number
three
regarding
the
988.
natasha
and
captain
mckinney,
you
guys
could
address
that
and
major
papa
travel
will
address
the
norcom
partnership
after
that.
L
Do
you
want
me
to
try
it
so
regarding
the
landing
landing
zones?
Yes,
we
do
need
more
landing
zones.
We
do
need
an
option
for
somebody
who
is
in
crisis
or
needs
some
sort
of
immediate
sort
of
mental
health
intervention,
and
we
don't
have
that.
However,
that
being
said,
the
reason
that
ccat
was
being
sometimes
a
diversion
from
a
hospital
or
jail
is
leaving
somebody
exactly
where
they
are.
It's
actually
spending
the
time
to
sit
and
talk
to
them.
L
Listen
to
them,
have
them
calm
down,
de-escalate
them,
get
them
connected
to
a
family
member.
Sometimes
that
is
that's
the
diversion.
It's
just
that
often
patrol
officers
don't
have
the
time
the
training
or
the
partnership.
To
do
that.
The
other
thing
that
c-capa
to
do
is
they
could
give
somebody
a
ride
to
the
date
to
the
day
center
to
cfh.
You
know
or
get
them
there,
so
they
so.
L
Yes,
absolutely
we
need
more
and
we
were
still
able
to
make
those
diversions
without
that,
because
the
time
and
the
time
and
the
the
flexibility
to
be
able
to
do
some
different
things
regarding
988,
we
hope
that
we're
positioning
ourselves
to
do
that.
So
there
is
a
correspondent
outreach
alliance,
which
is
a
statewide
alliance.
That
is
a
membership
organization.
L
For
folks
who
are
doing
this
kind
of
work
and
senator
tina
orwell
has
been
very
involved
in
the
988
legislation
and
has
made
sure
that
members
of
what
we
call
the
croa
alliance
are
on
her
advisory
committees
and
are
part
of
those
conversations
to
talk
about
how
correspondents
can
be
involved
in
responses
for
the
988
system
and
for
the
98
call
centers.
So
they
we
make
sure
that
correspondents
are
part
of
that
conversation
which
we
hope
this
will
position
us
to
be
eligible
for
those
funds
as
they
as
they
come
along.
C
Yeah
it
does
help.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
really
you
know
it's
always
related
to
funding
and
funding
shortfalls
right
and
so
making
sure
that
we're
possession
thanks.
O
O
They
came
to
the
forefront,
and
so
if
there
was
a
resource
that
cares,
knew
about
that
police
didn't
know
about,
for
example,
down
here,
one
call
where
officers
or
mental
health
professionals
can
call
and
get
information
on
the
client
that
really
helps
when
you
have
to
involuntarily,
commit
someone
or
understand
what
they're
facing,
and
so
what
happened
was
that
police
officers
may
have
had
resources
that
the
mental
health
professionals
didn't
know
about,
and
it
just
really
was
able
to
expand
their
knowledge
on
what
they
could
do
for
these
individuals,
and
so
they
had
more
options
than
we
had
before.
N
My
apologies
to
address
the
norcon
question.
We
actually
developed
a
dual
process
for
this,
so
that
if
the
call
came
in
and
was
triaged
as
a
clear
mental
health
call,
the
dispatcher
would
dispatch.
N
Actually,
I
should
say
that
it's
actually
three
different
ways.
The
norcon
could
dispatch
it
as
a
as
to
seacat
directly.
The
second
shot
option
is
once
it
was
dispatched,
was
dispatched
to
a
normal
police
officer.
If
a
ccat
unit
heard
that-
and
they
heard
something
in
it
that
triggered
hey,
this
could
be
something
they
could
jump.
N
The
call
they
could
cancel
the
patrol
officer
and
go
instead,
and
the
third
thing
we
set
up
was
that
at
any
point
in
time,
a
patrol
officer
when
they
got
there
and
realized
it
wasn't
what
they
got
sent
to,
which
happens
quite
a
lot
in
law
enforcement.
They
were
able
to
back
off
call
the
seacat
unit
to
come
deal
with
the
situation,
then
so
we
could
actually
bring
cat
in
at
any
point
in
time,
from
dispatch
to
officer
arrival
or
even
after
officer
arrival,
we
developed
that
so
that
it
wasn't
a
once
one
touch.
N
A
E
A
E
E
Thank
you
all
for
the
great
presentation
tonight
and
and
just
a
very
thoughtful
way
that
you
approach
this
this
this
pilot
and
also
this
study,
and
I
really
look
forward
to
seeing
that
that
final
study
and
analysis
report,
which
sounds
like
it's
going
to
have
a
much
more
further
data
detailing
and
statistics
which
I
just
really
look
forward
to
seeing
as
well
and
also
the
outreach
part
here.
I'm
glad
we're
also
putting
this
up
on
engaging
the
bellevue
website.
E
That's
that's
important,
as
well
as
the
the
policy
advisory
councils
would
love
to
hear,
and
maybe
this
is
in
your
plans
already
to
kind
of
wrap
in
the
feedback
you
get
from
the
advisory
councils
into
that
final
report.
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
part
of
your
process
or
not,
but
certainly
would
like
to
review
some
of
the
feedback
that
you
get
from
the
advisory
councils
as
well.
That
might
be
that
might
be
helpful.
A
couple
other
questions
for
you
on:
let's
see,
I
think
it
was
a
slide.
Was
it
slide?
E
Eight.
Let
me
take
a
quick
look
here.
Sorry
to
make
sure
I
get
the
right
number
here.
The
number
of
client
contacts
and
clients
engaged
how
much
of
that
was
repetitious
in
terms
of
you're,
seeing
the
same
client
multiple
times
or
are
the
numbers
there
all
unique
touches.
E
E
I
guess
assumptions
that
might
have
been
made,
but
then
you
discovered
it
wasn't
exactly
the
way
you
thought
it
was
going
to
go
once
you
launched
the
program
so
kind
of
maybe
your
biggest
surprise
is
out
of
developing
the
the
pilot
and
maybe
even
what
shifted
during
the
pilot
or
what
changes
you
made
during
the
pilot
in
order
to
address
some
of
those
assumptions
that
were
just
not
not
correct
at
the
time
or
surprised
you
so
yeah
I'll
stop
there.
With
my.
E
I
could
ask
a
lot
more
but
again
great
report,
great
presentation
and
very
excited
about
this.
Oh
one
last
question
in
that
final
report:
I'm
assuming
it
will
also
have
some
numbers
in
terms
of
costs
in
terms
of
the
the
the
pilot,
as
well
as
on
boeing
costs
as
as
well
I'm
assuming
that
that'll
be
part
of
it,
not
that
we
need
to
get
into
that
now,
but
I'm
assuming
that
will
be
into
that
in
that
report.
M
Thank
you
so
the
first
two
questions
regarding
the
unique
touches
and
assumptions
made
or
not
captain
mckinney
and
natasha.
O
Sure
I'll
go
ahead
and
address
the
second
piece
of
that
in
terms
of
the
assumptions
that
we
had,
I
think
with
when
we
went
into
this.
We
thought
that
you
know
these
clients
were
going
to
want
to
talk
to
the
mental
health
professional
more
than
they'd
want
to
talk
to
police
and
natasha
mentioned.
That
earlier,
is
that
some
people
responded
very
very
well
to
the
mental,
perfect
mental
health
professional,
but
there
were
people
that
actually
wanted
to
talk
to
the
police
officer.
They
didn't
want
anything
to
do
with
the
mental
health
professional.
O
The
other
piece
of
it
that
we
found
out
were
when
the
new
laws
went
into
place
and
we
knew
they
were
coming,
but
there
was
a
little
bit
a
hesitation
with
our
ccat
officers
because
they
were
worried
that
they
weren't
going
to
be
able
to
help
someone
that
needed
the
help,
because
we
had
to
have
that
immediacy.
O
So
we
had
to
deal
with
that
emotional
component
for
our
teams,
because
this
is
their
job,
and
this
is
what
they
love
to
do
and
they
have
the
compassion
for
it.
What
we
found
is
that
it's
actually
a
de-escalation
tool.
I
mean
we
know
it's
a
de-escalation
tool,
but
when
we
have
those
high
liability
events,
let's
say
we
have
a
suicidal
subject
with
a
gun.
O
We
were
able
to.
They
were
able
to
talk
that
individual
down,
get
him
services
and
get
him
back
home
to
his
family
in
a
safe
environment.
So
those
are
just
three
small
things
and
well
I
mean
you
could
think
that
they
were
big
too.
There
were
a
lot
of
lessons
learned
because
again,
this
is
a
very
new
innovative
program
that
no
one
else
with
the
cares
model
has
been
has
tried
that
we
know
of
in
this
state,
so
it
it
it's
always
changing.
O
It's
always
evolving,
and
you
know
when
we
find
out
something,
isn't
working,
we'll
tweak
it
and
and
we'll
be
flexible
with
it.
L
So
I
would
add
that
I
can
speak
for
one
of
my
mhps
one
surprise
I'll,
be
honest.
She
she
was
concerned.
She
wasn't
sure
what
this
was
going
to
be
like
you
know
she
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
bobby
pvd,
but
that's
one
thing:
it's
another
thing
to
be
in
a
car
with
them
10
hours
a
day,
and
she
was
a
little
bit
worried
about.
L
What's
going
to
be
like
to
get
out
there,
what
if
we
get
out
there,
we
don't
agree
and
in
the
end
she
said
I
was
so
surprised
I
loved
it.
I
loved
working
with
him,
and
I
you
know
I
she
she
wished
that
continued.
She
really
enjoyed
that
and
she
felt
like
they
really
complimented
each
other
and
that
they
were
really
great
partners.
That
was
one
thing
and
then
just
to
answer
your
question
about
the
the.
R
L
239
clients
who
are
engaged
in
total
so
and
then
the
1700
contacts
were
again.
I
don't
have
the
data
in
front
of
me
of
how
many
of
those
were
repeats
with
them
versus
on
their
behalf,
but
that
there
were
obviously
some
folks
who
we
saw
you
know
more
than
who
we
saw
more
than
once.
There
was
two
239
of
those
in
those
four
months
who
were
who
were
new
folks.
M
And
and
lastly,
regarding
the
calls,
while
the
cost
analysis
won't
be
part
of
the
final
report,
there
will
be
cost
analysis
done.
Okay,.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
council
member
stokes,
followed
by
council
member
lee
and
then
councilmember
robertson,.
S
S
I
won't
go
over
those,
but
to
me
I
don't
I
just
don't
have
any
questions,
that's
something
we
have
to
do,
and
it's
just
amazing
and
to
put
it
together
in
such
a
short
time
and
have
these
results
are
very,
very
good
and
I
think
it
it
has
a
lot
of
impact
for
a
lot
of
reasons,
and
you
know
getting
people
increasing,
helping
people
avoid
criminal
activity
or
reflecting
from
having
to
go
to
jail
or
putting
them
in
hospitals
or
getting
in
hospitals
and
things
and
getting
service
to
them
and
actually
having
them.
S
You
mentioned
something
about
people
came
out
and
wanted
to
talk
to
police,
and
I
you
see
a
lot
of
situations
that
just
blew
up
and
the
people
who
were
involved.
The
individuals
of
the
citizens
said.
I
just
wanted
to
talk
to
somebody,
and
you
know
you
get
into
that
situation
and
some.
So
I
think
this
is
we're
looking
at
something
that
can
really,
I
think,
transform
the
way
we
we
do
this
and
the
interesting
thing
that
popped
into
my
head
on.
S
Listen
when
I
read
this
thing
over
was
going
way
back
in
time
to
tv
shows:
emergency
paramedics,
car
55,
dragnet
were
kind
of
concepts
like
these
were
being
talked
about.
S
So
it's
just
fantastic,
and
I
I
really
appreciate-
and
I
do
hope
that
we
continue
this
and
I
think
in
the
financial
aspect.
What
we'll
find
is
that
we're
getting
more
done
with
the
same
or
less
money
in
a
sense,
and
we
we're
and
putting
the
police
really
engaged
in
directly
in
real
criminal
activity
and
things
that
need
to
be
dealt
with
will
be
a
big
big
thing
forward.
You
know
going
forward
too,
it's
just
exciting
that
bellevue
is
is
doing
this
leading
this
and
I'm
really
proud
of
it
and
proud
of
everything.
D
Thank
you.
Well,
when
I
was
first
briefed
a
week
ago.
I
was
really
excited
about
this
program.
This
is
really
going
back
to
the
basics
of
policing.
It's
community
policing
way
back
when
police
officers
are
the
protectors
problem,
solvers,
taking
care
of
our
community
and
our
people,
individuals
and
families
who
cannot
otherwise
protect
themselves.
D
So
I
think
just
working
together
with
fire
with
you
know
mhp
and
with
the
police-
and
you
know
this
is
amazing,
and
I
think
this
is
a
really
attacking
and
addressing
very,
very
fundamental
question
that
has
been
brought
up.
You
know
during
the
last
few
years
and
longer
than
that.
Obviously,
but
you
know
it's
really
focusing
on
something
where
you
need
to
be
drastically
to
look
how
with
the
society
has
changed,
things
have
changed
ways
of
doing
things,
change
it's
guiding
a
lot
more
complex.
D
Obviously,
so
we
need
to
come
up
with
newer
ways
of
doing
all
things
which
is
the
community
policing.
You
know,
I
think
it's
going
to
cancel
30
years
ago.
That's
what
we
started
talking
about,
but
now
it's
maybe
really
going
to
happen.
So
I
want
to
give
father
kudo
a
lot
of
compliment
to
chief
both
chiefs
for
doing
this
instituting,
and
you
know
we
we
have
a
lot
of
questions
like
because,
like
you
know,
I
could
you
said
repeatedly.
D
This
is
something
new.
I
think
captain
mckinney
said
that
it's
new,
it's
innovative.
It's
ever
changing.
You
know,
there's
no
pat
answers
and
to
a
lot
of
questions
we
will
have,
and
I
think-
and
I
don't
expect
you
to
answer
any
questions
for
me
tonight.
Otherwise
we'll
be
here
for
all
night
all
week,
and
so
don't
worry
about
it,
but
I'm
I'm
really
impressed
to
emphasize
the
things
that
we
want
to
accomplish,
which
you
already
you
know
articulated
in
you
know,
increase
diversion
rate
from
hospital
and
jail
and
decrease
use
of
force.
D
D
So
that's
why
I
I'm
curious.
I
said
a
council
member
boxed
them
asked:
is
this
going
to
be
one
shot?
Deal
done,
that's
it.
Where
are
the
resources
going
to
continue
this?
I
really
like
to
see
this
continue.
This
is
the
new
program,
but
we
cannot
do
it
just
jumping
right
through
it.
We
don't
know
how
to
do
it.
We
have
to
do
it
slowly
gradually.
D
You
guys
have
got
the
resources
which
we
as
councilmember
have
to
look
at,
how
to
make
it
possible
for
you
so
that
you
can
continue
to
do
this
and
make
pieces
of
it,
which
you
know
you
would
think
of
doing
it.
If
you
don't,
some
of
us
will
bring
that
up,
which
is
we
need
to
know
the
statistics
we
know
to
what
we're
getting.
We
need
to
see
what
are
the
real
problems,
and
so
we
can
work
on
the
real
solutions.
D
These
are
the
things
we
are
look.
We
are
finding
we're
discovering
you
know,
and
that
will
give
us
the
next
solution.
The
next
step,
so
I
think
that's
all
I'm
going
to
say
is
I'm
very
excited
about
it.
That's
the
beginning
of
this
program,
which
has
of
you
know,
solving
the
big
questions
and
concerns
we've
been
faced
with
the
whole
nation
is
so
I
compliment
you
to
doing
that
and
give
us
the
information,
your
experts,
all
of
you
know,
because
you
are
right
on
the
ground.
D
You
are
actually
doing
it
with
the
clients,
knowing
what
you
need
to
do
so
come
back
to
us
check
back
with
us
regularly
and
let
us
know
let
the
city
manager
know
what
you
need,
and
we
can
talk
about
those
things
we
can
all
become
smart.
We
can
all
solve
the
problem
together.
So
thank
you.
I'm
very
excited
about
it.
T
You
I
joined
my
colleagues
in
my
enthusiasm
for
this
program
and
I
think
you
can
hear
from
all
of
us
how
proud
we
all
are
of
our
police
and
fire
departments
because
of
the
work
that
you
guys
do,
and
this
is
a
great
example
of
that.
This
is
such
a
great
program,
one
that
I
think,
really
honors
the
culture
that
we
try
to
to
facilitate
here
in
bellevue
with
our
first
responders,
which
is
to
build
trust
with
the
community
to
protect
to
serve
to
be
that
guardian
mentality,
and
I
think
that
this
does.
T
It
hits
all
those
notes.
So
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
the
data
and
the
report,
and
I
know
that,
as
that
is
being
analyzed
and
considered,
that
the
one-to-one
outreach
by
our
officers
will
continue
to
the
people
who
are
at
risk
and
we're-
and
this
is
we're
figuring
out
a
better
way
to
serve
the
public.
So
I'd
like
to
talk
just
a
brief
moment,
I'm
just
going
to
make
comments
because
all
the
questions
have
been
answered,
but
the
data
and
the
report
that's
coming.
T
I
want
to
think
about
what
we're
going
to
use
that
for
certainly
I'd
like
that
to
come
back
to
council
when
it's
done
so
that
we
can
share.
You
can
share
with
us
and
it
shares
with
the
public
all
that
additional
information.
We're
obviously
going
to
use
it
to
do
outreach,
which
I
think
is
excellent.
T
But
I
also
think
that
we
should
think
about
it
as
a
communication
piece
or
or
creating
a
communication
piece
that
comes
out
of
that,
whether
it's
internal
to
or
to
our
public
or
external,
even
further
to
the
legislature
on
showing
how
great
this
program
is
and
maybe
getting
some
funding,
whether
it's
state
or
federal
funding,
whether
it's
grant
funding
from
other
resources
county
levy
money.
T
This
is
one
of
those
ways
where
you,
where
captain
mckinney
said
bellevue's
the
only
city
in
the
state
who
had
the
cares
program
which
we've
had
for
nine
years
and
then
we're
doing
the
sea
cat
on
top
of
it
and
it's
it
seems
to
have
been
a
very
effective
program
and
so
sharing
that
out
and
sharing
it
out
to
the
council
as
we
deliberate
and
the
public
as
we
deliberate
the
next
binaural
budget.
I
think
will
also
be
really
important.
T
So
I
hope
that
that's
gonna
happen
and
if
one
of
the
chiefs
or
someone
from
the
city
manager's
office
wants
to
respond
to
just
how
are
we
going
to
use
the
report
and
how
are
we
going
to
communicate
it
out?
That
would
be
really
helpful,
but
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
seeing
the
results
and
thank
you
guys
all
for
the
work.
M
Thank
you
and
yeah,
and
we
certainly
will
be
in
discussions
as
to
how
we're
going
to
communicate
that
out.
You
make
some
great
points
that
I've
taken
good
notes
on,
so
thank
you.
A
Okay,
I
have
two
questions
here.
I'm
you
know
representing
bellevue
on
the
mental
illness
drug
dependency
board.
I
saw
the
pilot
program
that
we
had
before
this,
where
we
did
mental
health
triage
inside
the
police
department
and
that
was
very
successful
and
then
we
lost
the
funding
for
it.
A
So
if
this,
indeed
is
a
successful
pilot,
I
just
think
that
we're
all
very
interested
in
figuring
out
how
to
continue
it
with
funding,
and
I
know
that
it's
on
our
state
ledge
agenda
to
get
funding
for-
and
I
know
that
senator
cantwell
is
supporting
this
at
the
federal
level.
So
I
think
we
just
all
need
to
advocate
for
the
funding
for
this.
But
my
two
questions
to
you
are
one.
You
know
it
sounds
very
successful,
but
I'd
like
to
know
exactly
how
are
you
measuring
success?
A
What
are
your
parameters
for
success,
your
indicators
of
success
and
then
number
two?
You
know
I.
I
know
that
not
everybody
that
you
work
with
with
this
program
is
experiencing
homelessness,
but
for
those
clients
that
are
and
who
are
having
a
mental
health
crisis
or
any
other
kind
of
crisis,
how
do
you
envision
partnering
with
our
agencies
and
our
shelters
and
our
permanent
supportive
housing
providers
to
provide
the
support
and
the
stability
that
these
individuals
need.
L
L
To
actually
talk
about
that,
so
we're
having
weekly
meetings
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
duplicating
services
that
we
know
who
we
need
to
get
releases
of
information
signed,
obviously,
but
that
we
know
who
each
other
is
working
with
and
that
we
are
able
to
support
each
other
and
make
sure
that
folks
are
getting
the
services
that
they
need
and
that
we're
doing
what
we
can
do
to
support
them
and
that
cfh
is
doing
what
they
can
do
to
support
them.
L
So
we
are
as
far
as
our
follow-up,
because
honestly
we
are
caseload
of
unhoused
folks
is
increasing,
has
increased
significantly,
so
we
really
are
lucky
to
our
community
partners
and
they're
looking
to
us
as
well,
when
things
start
to
go
south
with
folks
who
are
on
site,
they're
calling
and
requesting
ccad,
or
cares
to
come
out
and
be
helpful
in
that
way
as
well.
So
that's
how
we're
starting
is
with
our
weekly
meetings
and
then,
of
course,
also
tying.
A
I'll
just
say
before
we
get
an
answer
to
my
other
question.
Thank
you
for
your
response
and
I'll
just
say.
I
think
we'd
all
be
very
interested
in
knowing
what
the
numbers
are
for,
because
you
know
we
know
that
people
can't
recover
if
they're
not
stably
housed,
and
so
everybody
on
this
council
is
very
interested
in
getting
individuals,
stable,
stably
housed
and
we're
funding,
permanent,
supportive
housing
and
building
the
new
shelter.
A
M
N
Sure
so,
first
off
we
were
looking
at
specifically
the
diversion
and
part
of
that
diversion
process
was
not
just.
Is
the
person
not
being
arrested
for
a
crime
that
they
may
be
committing
or
a
one
of
those?
For
example,
criminal
trespass
charge
where
someone
just
won't
leave
the
property
but
we're
looking
at
how
well
that
person
can
go
into
the
service,
for
example,
if
that
person
does
need
to
go
to
overlake
hospital,
are
we
actually
liaising
with
over
the
course
of
ahead
of
time
and
is
a
relationship
built
with
obey
hospitals?
N
So
when
I
bring
that
person
in,
can
they
go
through
the
process
more
smoothly?
And
that's
a
key
indicator
for
us
is
not
the
diversion
process,
but
the
smoothness
of
that
person
is
how
that
person
is
being
treated
at
the
hospital.
So
it's
not
just
the
diversion
process.
It's
working
on
the
entire
flow,
so
is
that
person
going
through
the
process?
A
piece
of
this,
too,
is
looking
at
individuals
to
see.
If
we're
you
know,
is
that
individual
itself
getting
better
over
time.
N
Our
trial
was
only
for
four
months,
so
we
don't
have
that
long-term
effect
or
that
long-term
analysis
of
is
this
person
studying
x
person
x
and
seeing
if
that
person
x
gets
better
over
time,
and
that's
absolutely
something
if
this
was
a
continuing
program
beyond
this
you're
looking
at
individuals
and
is
that
is
that
person
accepting
treatment?
Are
we
seeing
results
and
what
we
saw
a
lot
of
times
was
that
the
police
department
is
dealing
with
the
same
people.
N
The
fire
department
is,
there
wasn't
a
communication,
and
that
was
when
we
were
looking
at
how
effective
this
program
was
it
is.
Are
we
actually
seeing
a
positive
result
for
that
person
I'll
be
giving
them
the
resources?
Are
they
getting
out?
That's
that's
a
lot
larger
piece
so
for
the
trial,
though
we
knew
we
could
focus
on
diversion
rates
is
how
often
that
person
is
being
diverted.
We
can
focus
on
use
of
force
and
we
we
can
focus
on
those
those
indicators
that
we
could
only
get
within
that
form
of
trial.
A
Yeah,
that
makes
sense
I
mean,
I
think,
the
data,
the
research
shows
that
there's
only
a
10
permanent
success
rate
with
individuals
who
are
not
housed
when
they're
receiving
supportive
services.
So
it's
a
maybe
not
a
good
indicator
of
success
to
look
at
that
unless
we
are
able
to
get
them
into
housing
first,
but
certainly
the
recidivism
and
the
ability
to
provide
compassionate
care
is
is
a
great
success
story.
A
Well,
thank
you
very
much
for
this
presentation
and
we're
all
gonna
be
advocating
for
the
funding.
I
know
we
look
forward
to
getting
a
report
back
on
the
actual
data.
Okay,
we
have.
Mr
miyake
did
you
want
to
enter
well.
The
next
one
are
the
regional
issues,
and
that
is
in
our
packet.
There
is
no
presentation,
but
lacie
jane
is
on
the
call
here.
If
in
case
you
have
any
questions
or
comments.
A
So
does
anybody
have
a
question
or
comment
on
her?
What's
in
the
packet
not
seeing
any,
we
will
move
on
and
we're
moving
on
to
land
use.
I'd
like
to
take
a
break.
It
is
7
30.
So
let's
come
back
at
7
40.
A
Okay,
let's
get
started,
mr
miyake,
would
you
like
to
introduce
the
first
land
use
ordinance.
I
Yes,
under
land
use,
you
have
ordinance
6625,
which
is
related
to
a
quasi-judicial
rezone
and
given
the
quasi-judicial
nature,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
turn
this
over
to
kathy
gurler,
our
city
attorney.
To
introduce
this
item
there
kathy.
U
U
In
this
matter,
the
applicant
seeks
to
rezone
a
6.4
acre
site
that
is
located
in
the
crossroads
sub-area
from
office
to
community
business,
and
this
rezone
is
one
of
several
you've
seen
lately.
That's
intended
to
implement
and
further
the
comprehensive
plan
amendments
that
the
council
approved
a
year
ago.
U
You
might
recall,
at
your
november
22nd
meeting
riley
pittman
from
the
development
services
department,
presented
a
staff
report
on
this
rezone
application,
and
the
matter
is
now
before
you
for
a
final
decision.
This
is
a
process
three
quasi-judicial
matter.
The
hearing
examiner
recommends
approval
with
one
condition
and
no
appeal
of
that
recommendation
has
been
filed.
This
is
a
closed
record
proceeding,
so
the
council's
decision
must
be
based
on
the
record.
U
That
is
before
the
hearing
examiner
the
alternatives
available
to
you,
as
well
as
the
decision
criteria
were
presented
in
your
packet
materials
as
well
as
a
proposed
ordinance
6625.
Should
the
council
choose
to
approve
this
rezone
so
before?
I
turn
it
over
mayor
to
the
council
for
deliberation
and
a
vote,
because
this
is
a
quasi-judicial
matter.
I
would
recommend
that
council
be
given
an
opportunity
to
disclose
any
quasi
or
excuse
me
any
ex
parte
communications
on
the
record.
A
Okay,
thank
you
kathy.
So
does
anybody
have
x
parte
communications
to
disclose
on
this
not
seeing
any
we
can
move
on?
Did
you
want
to
say
anything
else,
kathy,
no
meryl
turn.
A
A
I
Sure,
thank
you
mayor
council
members.
We
have
two
matters
under
other
ordinances
and
resolutions
to
cover
with
you
this
evening
and
for
and
for
final
action.
The
first
one
is
we're
related
to
blandi's
code
for
purposes
of
advancing
the
c1
action
of
the
affordable
housing
strategy.
That
is
ordinance
6626,
which
is
12a
on
your
agenda
this
evening.
This
topic
was
last
discussed
with
the
council
of
the
november
15
study
session,
where
staff
were
directed
by
council
to
bring
back
the
ordinance
for
final
action
this
evening.
R
Thank
you,
mr
miyagi,
good
evening,
amir
robinson,
deputy
mayor
eun
house
and
council
members.
As
mr
miyagi
mentioned,
this
is
an
ordinance
that
we
are
seeking
final
action
from
the
council
tonight
which
implements
the
first
phase
of
the
council's
affordable
housing
strategy
c1.
Essentially,
what
this
does
is.
It
adds
a
50
density
bonus
to
properties
that
are
owned
by
faith-based
organizations,
non-profits
and
public
agencies.
R
It
is
the
first
phase
and
will
be
a
two-phased
approach.
This
sets
a
base
bonus
density
of
50
for
those
properties
we'll
be
returning
early
next
year
to
discuss
the
second
phase
of
this
work,
which
would
be
targeted
reasons
or
map
amendments
for
properties
to
increase
the
base
zoning
density
allowed
on
those
properties,
those
would
be
adjacent
to
arterials
and
other
properties
that
could
accept
additional
or
higher
density.
R
So
again,
next
slide,
please!
So
again,
we
are
seeking
your
action
this
evening
on
ordinance
number
6626
to
initiate
this
density
bonus.
So
I'm
going
to
hand
over
we've
got
a
brief
staff
report,
so
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
tris
natanus.
I
believe
to
continue
with
the
staff
report
this
evening.
V
Thank
you
mike
good
evening,
mayor
robinson,
deputy
mayor
noon,
house,
council
members.
We
do
have
a
short
presentation
tonight
for
you.
We
will
start
by
recalling
council
direction
on
november
15th
and
we
will
explain
the
elements
of
the
luca
organs
next
and
go
through
the
anticipated
outcomes
of
this
ordinance
and
wrap
up
with
kind
of
a
recap
of
the
public
engagement
and
the
process
that
we've
gone
through.
V
So
as
mike
noted
on
november,
15
council
did
provide
us
direction
when
we
first
introduced
this
affordable
housing
density
to
c1,
luca,
the
c1
action
as
part
of
the
affordable
housing
strategy.
As
I'm
sure
you
all
recall,
calls
for
increasing,
affordable
housing
development
on
certain
eligible
properties.
V
So
there
is
future
work
with
this
action
phase
two
that
is
coming
up
later
early
next
year,
and
we
would
be
looking
to
launch
that
c1,
comprehensive
city
initiated
map
amendments
for
those
certain
properties
that
are
well
suited
for
upzoning
and
for
development
of
affordable
housing
on
those.
V
So
currently
we
are
here
in
fairview
tonight,
looking
for
action
on
the
on
this
phase,
one
the
affordable,
housing
luca
and
we
hope
to
be
able
to
get
a
final
action
from
council
tonight
to
adopt
this
ordinance.
V
So
with
that,
I'm
actually
going
to
turn
over
the
presentation
to
christina
grant
to
go
through
the
elements
of
the
ordinance
and
some
of
additional
information.
Christina.
W
Thank
you
trisna,
so
tonight,
just
going
through
a
high
level
overview
of
the
luca
components
in
order
to
be
eligible
for
the
density
bonus.
All
housing
units
in
the
project
would
need
to
be
a
permanently
affordable,
housing,
affordable
to
households
at
80
percent
area,
median
income
or
below
eligibility
differs
by
owner
category
between
land
use
districts
in
single
family
land
use
districts.
W
W
This
would
be
a
buy
right
density,
bonus
of
about
of
50,
and
that
means
that
prop
projects
that
meet
the
eligibility
criteria
can
be
eligible
for
the
bonus
without
any
additional
process
beyond
what
is
otherwise
required
for
their
project.
W
We
have
also
proposed
some
flexibility
for
certain
dimensional
standards
in
order
to
help
physically
accommodate
those
additional
housing
units
and
final
major
point.
We
have
proposed
that
for
in
the
single
family
districts,
duplexes
and
triplexes
can
represent
up
to
half
of
the
units
in
the
subdivision.
W
A
couple
anticipated
outcomes.
We
see
first,
of
course,
action
c1
from
the
affordable
housing
strategy
to
increase
development
potential
on
suitable
land
owned
by
public
agencies,
faith-based
and
non-profit
housing
entities
for
affordable
housing.
This
is
a
first
phase
in
implementing
that
action
with
phase
two
to
come
next
year
and
second
key
outcome.
This
luca
would
conform
the
land
use
code
with
rcw
3663
300
next
slide.
W
W
We
also
employed
direct
engagement
and
feedback
with
representatives
of
the
faith
community,
non-profit
housing
providers
and
members
of
the
public,
and
finally,
we
had
an
online
presence
through
engaging
bellevue
and
a
dedicated
project
web
page
thanks
a
reminder
of
our
process
to
date.
Again,
this
was
a
process
for
action.
W
We
held
three
study
sessions
with
the
planning
commission.
From
april
to
june
of
this
year,
we
had
a
courtesy
hearing
with
edcc
in
september,
followed
by
a
public
hearing
with
the
planning
commission
as
well.
W
We
held
a
study
session
with
the
city
council
on
november
15th,
which
brings
us
today
with
our
request
for
action
following
action,
we
will
go
back
to
the
ebcc
at
a
future
date
for
public
hearing
and
approval
disapproval
decision
and
also
to
come
in
a
future
meeting.
We're
looking
forward
to
the
phase
2
launch
next
slide,
and
thank
you.
That
brings
us
to
the
end
of
our
presentation.
Mayor
robinson,
I
will
defer
to
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much
great
presentation.
So
what
we're
proposing
here
is
really
kind
of
the
bare
minimum
to
comply
with
the
state
mandate
for
the
land
use
code.
Am
I
right.
V
A
I
understand
okay,
thank
you
for
explaining
that
so
any
comments
or
questions
on
this,
I'm
not
seeing
any,
and
I
you've
made
it
clear.
Okay,
councilmember
robertson,
I'll
just
say:
you've
made
it
clear
that
we'll
be
looking
at
this
again
in
the
first
or
second
quarter
of
next
year
to
see.
If,
in
certain
areas,
we
can
go
even
increasing
the
density
even
further
and
have
those
conversations
which
I
know
our
planning
commission
hoped
for
and
so
do.
Our
church
groups
so
go
ahead.
Councilmember
robertson.
T
A
Okay,
so
deputy
mayor,
would
you
like
to
make
a
motion?
Please
certainly.
E
Mayor,
I
move
to
adopt
ordinance,
6626
amending
land
use
code,
chapter
20.10,
land
use,
districts,
chapter
20.20,
general
development
requirements,
chapter
20,
2025,
special
and
overlay
districts
and
chapter
20.50
definitions
to
establish
a
density,
bonus
and
additional
modifications
to
other
standards
and
requirements
for
affordable
housing.
Developments
on
certain
public
nonprofit
or
religious
organization-owned
properties.
A
Any
opposed
great
that
passes,
so
we
have
another
ordinance
and
attached
to
that
ordinance
are
other
ordinances
so
I'll.
Let
mr
miyake
explain
this.
I
There,
mayor
ordinances,
6627,
6628,
6629
and
6630
all
relate
to
the
adoption
of
the
east
main
land
use
code.
I'm
joining
us
this
team
to
walk
us
through
the
ordinances
and
to
talk
about
how
they
all
fit
together.
We
have
mike
brennan
tris,
nutanist
and
nick
whipple,
all
from
the
development
services
department,
as
well
as
matt
cummins
and
emil
king
from
community
development.
So
with
that,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
turn
this
over
to
mike,
so
he
could
again
walk
us
through
these
and
explain
how
all
these
are
going
to
work
together.
I
R
Thank
you,
mr
miyagi.
This
is
a
group
of
ordinances
that
we're
bringing
forward
tonight
for
final
action
on
the
east
main
landis
code.
Amendment
just
take
a
quick
pause
for
a
minute
here
to
recognize
that
this
has
been
a
long
process
that
has
really
involved
a
lot
of
people
and
essentially
thousands
of
hours
of
time
from
our
community
members,
business
interests,
property
owners,
housing
and
affordable
housing
advocates
the
city,
council
and,
and
certainly
the
staff.
R
R
As
mr
miyaki
mentioned
in
his
introduction,
there
are
multiple
ordinances
that
are
necessary
to
implement
the
east
main
land
use
code,
amendment
to
create
the
east
main
tod
neighborhood,
the
first
one
6627
is
the
lucca
or
the
land
use
code,
amendment,
which
is
the
kind
of
the
the
big
piece
of
legislation
that
puts
in
place
the
codes
and
standards
for
the
east
main
area
below.
R
Adoption
of
the
initial
ordinance
would
be
necessary
to
make
the
ordinances
below
that
relevant.
So
action
to
pass
the
initial
ordinance
would
be
necessary
before
you
would
act
on
any
of
the
additional
ordinances
this
evening
or
at
a
later
date,
if
that's
necessary.
So
I'm
going
to
hand
over
the
presentation.
We
do
have
a
brief
presentation
to
walk
the
council
through
the
east
maine
landis
code
amendment
and
the
associated
ordinances,
so
I
will
hand
it
to
trisna
to
continue
the
staff
presentation
prisoner.
V
We
will
begin
by
describe
describing
the
context
of
east
main
so
including
the
area
and
the
vision
and
recap
the
timeline
and
the
progression
of
these
main
code
amendments
in
the
last
half
of
this
year,
specifically
and
where
we
are
tonight,
we'll
then
give
an
overview
of
the
east
main
lucca
ordinance
and
follow
with
the
description
of
the
companion,
ordinances,
the
rezone,
the
noise
control
code
and
sign
code
ordinances
and,
as
mike
explained
council
will
be
asked
to
take
action
on
these
companion
ordinances.
If
council
does
adopt
the
luca
ordinance
next
slide,
please
s.
V
This
main
transit,
oriented
development
or
tod
area
is
bounded
by
main
street
and
downtown
to
the
north,
southeast,
8th
and
versus
food
to
the
south,
and
then
southeast
114th
I-405
to
the
east,
with
112
and
the
single-family
neighborhoods
of
surrey
downs
to
the
west.
V
V
V
V
Also,
as
mentioned
earlier,
if
council
does
adopt,
the
luca
ordnance
council
will
then
be
asked
to
adopt
the
three
companion
ordinances,
the
rezone
and
then
the
sign
code
and
noise
control
code.
Conformance
amendments
next
slide.
Please,
with
that,
I'm
going
to
turn
the
presentation
over
to
planning
manager
nick
quibble,
who
will
explain
the
package
of
code
of
ordinances
in
more
detail.
Nick.
X
Great
thank
you
trisna
and
good
evening,
mayor
robinson,
deputy
mayor
noon,
house
and
members
of
the
council,
so
this
slide
for
local
ordinance
6627.
This
is
providing
an
overview
of
the
planning
efforts
for
the
east
main
station
area.
With
the
comprehensive
plan
amendment
that
was
adopted
in
may
of
2019
the
comprehensive
plan,
it
really
established
the
blueprint
for
how
this
area
will
transition
with
light
rail
over
the
next
few
decades.
X
Tonight.
The
council
is
being
asked
to
take
a
very
big
implementation
step,
which
is
to
adopt
the
land
use
code
for
the
east
main
area
and
implement
the
vision
that
was
established
in
the
comprehensive
plan.
It
took
some
time
for
us
to
draft
the
zoning
for
this
area.
X
We've
we've
had
seven
touch
points
with
council
and
a
public
hearing
just
over
the
past
year
and
a
half
and
we're
excited
to
be
here
tonight
with
the
complete
draft
land
use
code
chapter,
which
is
inclusive
of
all
of
council's
feedback
over
the
past
year
and
a
half.
X
X
X
It
will
also
the
chapter
will
provide
exceptions
for
existing
uses.
The
bellevue
club,
for
example,
may
continue
to
expand
without
needing
to
meet
east
main
specific
development
standards
that
conflict
with
the
club's
ongoing
operations,
as
we
discussed
in
prior
council
meetings
and
then,
lastly,
the
land
use
code.
Amendment
provides
for
departures
from
the
land
use
code
through
the
development
agreement
option.
X
X
The
development
agreement
option
available
to
be
responsive
when
market
conditions
change
or
a
developer
is
wanting
to
attract
a
special
tenant
with
specific
needs
that
may
not
meet
all
of
the
aspects
of
the
code
and
once
the
land
use
code
amendment
is
adopted,
a
developer
may
submit
their
actual
design
concept
for
city
approval
and
just
as
a
reminder
for
community
members
listening
in
tonight,
we
do
not
have
a
specific
development
application
for
this
area.
This
is
a
policy
action,
not
a
development
proposal
that
the
city
council
will
be
acting
on.
X
So
the
next
three
slides
will
walk
through
the
companion
ordinances
that
go
along
with
the
land
use
code.
Amendment
ordinance.
These
ordinances,
as
mentioned
earlier,
are
necessary
to
fully
implement
the
luca
that
council's
been
reviewing
the
past
several
months
so
with
the
rezone
ordinance
6628.
X
This
shows
a
map
overview
of
the
east
main
area
and
the
proposed
rezoning
for
the
parcels
in
this
area.
As
mentioned
earlier,
this
is
a
roughly
60
acre
area
of
the
city
west
of
the
east
main
light
rail
station.
It's
currently
zoned
for
office
and
limited
business.
The
area
does
consist
of
four
hotels.
Many
surface
parking
lots:
the
bellevue
athletic
club
and
multiple
office
buildings.
X
Ordnance
6628,
would
re-zone
the
60
acres
into
two
new
land
use
districts
for
consistency
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
the
new
districts
include
the
east
main
transit,
oriented
development,
higher
density
district.
That's
the
e-m-t-o-d
high
land
use
designation,
which
is
closest
to
the
new
light
rail
station
and
covers
the
area
between
main
street
to
the
north
and
southeast
sixth
to
the
south
and
then
bounded
by
112th
and
114th,
and
then
the
second
district
is
the
east
main
tod
low
or
lower
density
district,
which
includes
three
parcels
south
of
southeast
six.
X
The
lower
density
district
is
further
from
the
light
rail
station
and,
as
you
can
see
on
the
map,
it
does
have
a
lot
of
green
space
there.
That's
mainly
wetlands
and
stervin
creek
that
runs
through
there
as
well,
so
the
lower
designation
is
responsive
to
the
conditions
of
those
those
properties
and
then
for
the
noise
control
ordinance
6629.
X
X
The
amendments
provide
requirements
for
east
maine
that
are
identical
to
the
requirements
for
downtown,
and
so
with
that
I
will
turn
it
back
to
mike.
To
conclude
the
staff
presentation.
R
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Nick
again,
we
are
seeking
council
final
action
initially
on
ordinance
6627,
which
is
the
east
main
land
use
code
amendment.
We
are
here
to
answer
any
questions
that
the
council
may
have
and
we'll
hand
it
back
to
the
mayor,
mia
robinson.
A
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
So
I
know
that
we
have
some
amendments
that
are
going
to
be
brought
up
tonight.
So
I'd
like
to
normally
we
don't
do
a
motion
in
the
beginning,
but
we
are
going
to
start
with
a
motion
to
approve
and
then
we
will
make
amendments
as
as
requested
so
deputy
mayor.
Could
you
start
with
a
motion
please
to
adopt.
E
Certainly
mayor,
I
moved
to
adopt
ordinance
6627
amending
the
land
use
code
to
create
a
new
part,
20.25
q
east
main
to
establish
requirements,
standards
and
design
guidelines
to
implement
the
new
east
main
transit,
oriented
development,
amending
luke,
20.10.020
land
use
districts
and
luke
20.25
h.045
critical
areas,
overlay
district
for
consistency
with
the
new
part
20.25
q
loop.
That's
not
good.
A
Okay,
so
I'm
going
to
open
this
for
discussion.
Are
there
any
amendments
that
would
like
to
be
brought
forward?
I
see
deputy
mayor,
you
have
your
hand
up
and
then
we'll
work
on
that
one
first
councilmember
robertson
and
then
we'll
do
your
second
so
deputy
mayor.
Would
you
like
to
propose
your
amendment.
E
Certainly
thank
you
and
unless
your
staff
wants
to
bring
up
the
the
slide,
which
might
detail
a
little
bit
more
about
the
amendment
as
well,
but
first
want
to
thank
my
colleagues
and
and
and
and
the
incredible
work
that
staff
has
done
in
getting
us
to
this
point
of
of
passing
east
maine
luca.
Here
this
is
momentous
occasion,
something
we've
been
working
on
for
quite
some
time,
so
just
wanted
to
say
that
first
and
certainly
appreciate
my
colleagues
consideration
of
this
amendment
this
evening.
E
So
my
memory
is
really
based
on
the
stakeholders
request
for
a
reasonable
adjustment
to
the
block,
length
and
perimeter
requirement
so
that
they
could
accommodate
a
grocery
store.
As
noted
in
the
slide
here,
the
current
code,
language
could
easily
be
changed
to
keep
the
staff
proposed
block
size
and
length
requirement,
but
create
an
exception
to
accommodate
a
grocery
store
with
its
required
parking.
E
So
I
believe
it's
20.25
q.100
under
section
4
under
exceptions.
It
literally
would
just
increase
from
200
to
350
feet
and
then
allow
also
on
main
street
in
addition
to
114th
avenue
southeast.
E
So
the
reason
I'm
bringing
this
amendment
forward
tonight
is
that
well,
first
and
foremost,
the
grocery
store
was
on
the
main
amenities
of
the
surrey,
downs,
neighborhood
and
the
cac
wanted
to
see
in
east
maine.
And
if
you
consider
the
what
1500,
plus
housing
units
that
are
going
to
go
into
east
maine,
the
survey
downs
neighborhood
and
the
numerous
apartment
buildings
north
of
east
maine,
the
demand
will
be
very
strong
and
it's
one
of
our
goals
as
a
council
is
getting
closer
to
a
15-minute
city
with
complete
and
connected
neighborhoods.
E
And
this
certainly
will
help
achieve
part
of
that
vision.
Where
residents
can
walk
or
bike
from
their
home
to
this
grocery
store
and
also
change
up
the
makeup
and
make
it
more
viable
for
small,
retail
or
mom
and
pop
shops.
As
some
of
the
stakeholders
referred
to
earlier
during
oral
communications
and
setting
them
up
for
success
to
flourish
in
east
maine.
E
And
additionally,
the
east
main
comprehensive
plan
already
states
to
allow
grocery
store,
entertainment
and
retail
and
others
to
serve
bellevue
neighborhoods
as
well
as
transit.
And
then
the
east
side.
Housing
round
table
had
also
had
a
recommendation
that
they,
independently
recommended
the
block,
length
and
perimeter
requirement
removed
entirely
actually,
and
I'm
not
advocating
that,
but
rather
advocating
for
a
small
minor
adjustment.
E
So
I
know
that
some
of
my
colleagues
might
think
that
the
da
might
be
the
proper
process
for
this.
However,
there's
there's
a
few
items
here
that
I
think
we
should
raise
and
discuss
and
and
why
I
brought
this
up
as
an
amendment.
So
you
know
pushing
the
block
length.
Exemption
for
grocery
to
a
future
da
will
force
a
grocery
store
or
any
any
grocery
store.
E
That
has
interest
in
here
to
delay
their
commitment
until
the
da
is
approved,
or
they
could
delay
housing
by
at
least
a
couple
of
years,
while
waiting
for
the
da
so
to
the
walk
away
due
to
uncertainty
of
not
knowing
if
the
ea
will
allow
a
grocery
store
and
if
they
do,
it
could
take
several
years
to
find
a
similar
anchor
grocery
store
in
east
maine,
which
again
could
delay
east
main
development
and
new
homes
for
several
years.
So
bottom
line
housing
could
be
delayed
in
both
cases,
therefore,
including
this
minor.
E
But
I
would
say
critical
exception
in
the
luca
reduces
the
risk
and
increase
the
certainty
of
developing
east
maine,
with
housing
quicker
having
housing
delay
between
anywhere
from
two
to
five
years
or
even
longer
by
not
including
in
this
in
the
luca,
is
not
the
scenario,
I
think
any
of
us
on
the
council.
The
city
of
the
stakeholders
wants
to
see
happen.
E
So,
finally,
we
listened
during
the
mft
process
that
brought
the
developers
the
affordable
housing
advocates
together
in
order
to
update
the
incentives
that
would
provide
more
affordable
housing
to
bellevue.
So
I
simply
ask
that
we
do
the
same
thing
here
that
we
listen
to
some
of
these
experts,
stakeholders,
neighborhoods
and
individuals,
who
were
part
of
the
cac
and
to
the
grocery
store
owners
who
understand
what
it
will
take
for
them
to
be
successful
at
this
location.
E
So
again,
thank
you
for
your
consideration
and
thank
you
for
yeah,
considering
this
amendment.
Thank
you.
A
I
have
a
clarifying
question:
is
this
something
that
would
be
if
a
grocery
store
is
proposed?
We
would
the
the
the
exemption
would
take
effect
or.
I
A
Okay,
thank
you.
So
any
comments
or
questions.
I
see
council
member
lee,
I
see
council
member
barksdale,
I
see
council
member
robertson
and
I
see
council,
member
stokes
and
zahn
go
ahead.
Councilmember
lee.
D
Thank
you,
madame
leah.
I
strongly
second,
the
amendment
I
believe
we've
heard
the
developer
and
we've
heard
the
amendment
deputy
mayor
are
very
articulately
stated
the
reasons
where
this
is
necessary.
One
of
the
elements
I
don't
want
to
go
over
everything,
but
the
key
is
that
the
grocery
store
is
essential.
D
We
know
that
you
know
financing
is
very
key
to
doing
anything
of
the
size
of
project.
You
know
people
are
going
to
look
at
financial
feasibility
to
make
sure
that
they
borrow
they
lend
money
so
that
they
can
get
their
money
back,
and
I
think
the
developer
already
are
investing
major
resource
investment,
their
dollar
to
the
project
and
they're
not
going
to
do
it
until
and
that,
unless
you
know
it's
financially
feasibility,
they
see
a
return
in
the
financial
investment.
D
So
I
believe
that
if
we
want
to
see
this
area
developed,
if
we
want
to
see
the
amenities
that
the
city
council
want
housing-
and
you
know
the
wonderful
concept
of
having
this
budget,
we
want
to
be
sure
that
it
meets
the
condition
and
another
thing
that
we
haven't
talked
about.
Maybe
was,
I
don't
remember
if
this
deputy
manager
may
have
said
equal
northwest
did
the
financial
feasibility
analysis?
D
The
analysis
indicated
also
in
the
importance
of
having
you
know
this
amenity
to
be
included
the
grocery
store
in
order
to
make
this
project
feasible.
D
So
I
believe,
in
addition
to
what
the
deputy
mayor
said,
and
I
think
we
need
to
emphasize
ultimately
whether
we're
going
to
have
this
project
or
not
depending
on
the
financial
feasibility,
and
so
I
strongly
support
this,
and
I
believe
it
still
maintains
the
thing
that
we're
looking
for
walkability
and
I
believe
that
there's
some
concern
about
maybe
the
size
the
plate
could
be
too
large
or
whatever
it
would
decrease,
walkability
and
pedestrian.
You
know
accessibility.
I
think
these
all
can
be
addressed.
D
It
depends
on
the
developer.
You
know
if
this
is
the
thing
that
would
attract
people
would
make
the
project
successful.
They
would
do
everything
you
know
to
make
it
successful
if
it
isn't
they're
not
going
to
do
it.
They're
not
going
to
you
know,
do
the
wrong
thing
that
will
not
meet
the
city
council's
requirement
and
what
we're
looking
for.
So
I
think
we
agree.
Q
All
right,
thank
you
mayor.
I
generally
support
it.
I
guess
I
would
just
maybe
circle
back
to
your
question.
I
don't
think
the
supplies
just
for
trigger
just
for
like
when
the
grocery
store
applies.
That
being
said,
I'm
curious
about
maybe
having
both
of
these
instead
of
just
replacing
it
and
for
the
second
one
where
it
says
350
feet
from
114
to
main
street
qualifying
it
to
say
something
around.
You
know
it
when,
when
there's
a
need,
because
it
can't
otherwise
be
achieved,
some
unmet
need
in
the
community
or
neighborhood.
Q
Q
So
in
the
in
the
comp
plan,
for
example,
it
talks
about
having
a
grocery
store
in
that
area,
explicitly
as
deputy
mayor
mentioned,
so
that
would
be
an
example
of
an
unmet
need,
given
that
it
doesn't
exist
within
that
area.
A
Okay,
all
right,
councilmember,
robertson,.
T
Thanks
this
is
what
I
raised
my
hand
to
talk
about,
but
I
I
support
them.
Actually,
we
don't
have
the
motion
on
the
table,
but
I
will
support
the
motion
to
amend
as
presented
by
deputy
mayor
newman
house
when
it
is
made,
but
I
think
that
the
amendment
is
good
because
it
crea,
I
mean
the
200
feet.
T
Block
length
is
smaller
than
the
standard
block
size
in
seattle,
and
it's
really
small
and
in
order
to
have
the
floor
plate
size
for
a
grocery
store,
you
just
have
to
have
it
bigger,
but
whether
it's
for
a
grocery
store
or
something
that
would
contain
lots
of
little
shops
or
whatever.
I
think
that
it's
an
important
exception
to
make
and
from
my
reading
of
it
it
would
apply
regardless,
and
I
think
that's
a
good
thing.
I
I
do
not
support
adding
vagueness
to
the
code
by
saying
some
unmet
need.
T
I
think
it's
a
honorable
idea,
but
I
think
it
would
not
create
certainty
in
the
code
and
it
also
who
decides
what
is
needed.
I
mean
it's
just
it's
too
big.
The
other
thing
is:
is
that
sometimes
when
development
is
happening,
people
are
laying
out
their
streets
like,
I
should
say
all
the
time
when
developments
happen,
people
are
laying
out
their
street
they're
figuring
out
their
infrastructure,
and
they
may
not
know
what
goes
in
there
and
what
may
go
in
there
may
change.
T
So
I
I
think
that
we
need
to
make
a
decision
350
200,
to
whatever
it
is.
I
I
support
the
350
exception
near
114th
in
maine.
I
think
it's
really
appropriate
and
can
I
just
say
how
excited
I
would
be
to
have
met
market
in
bellevue.
We
have
a
lot
of
great
grocery
stores
here.
T
It
would
be
awesome
for
the
people
of
downtown
the
people
to
serve
down
so
people
who
are
going
to
live
in
this
tod
to
have
a
good
grocery
store
like
met
market
or,
like
you
know,
there's
many
others
to
choose
from,
but
I
would
just
love
to
have
one
here,
and
so
I'm
gonna
support
the
motion.
Once
it's
made
thanks.
S
No,
I
appreciate
the
conversation
so
far
and
I'm
glad
to
see
this
has
been
kind
of
redirected
from
the
original
proposal,
which
was
would
have
just
opened
this
up
to
any
kind
of
development
effectively.
S
Is
would
be
a
great
addition
to
the
whole
piece?
What
I'd
like
to
know
and
and
appreciate
deputy
mayor's
reduction
of
this
to
limit
it
at
this
stage
to
a
grocery
store
we
can
always,
if
it's
put
in
in
that
way,
their
way.
We
can
always
come
back
in
and
do
something
else.
S
I
just
don't
wanna.
I
would
not
agree
to
just
open
it
up
to.
Let's,
let's
make
the
configuration
as
shown
here.
I
wish
we
had
a
better
map
of
that
to
look
at
and
who
knows
what
would
come
next,
I
mean
this
is
a
grocery
store
that
people
say
they
want
to
do,
but
we
hear
that
all
the
time
so
we're
you
know
we're
taking
a
risk
on
this,
which
I
think
in
this
case
is,
is
a
good
one
to
take,
and
I
I
trust
that
they
will
try
to
do
that.
S
I
just
I'm
not
quite
sure,
councilman
robertson,
what
what
kind
of
parameters
you
were
putting
on
this,
or
I
can't
find
it
interesting
if
you're
saying,
let's
go
with
the
way
that
the
deputy
mayor
proposed,
but
let's
have
some
in
the
future.
We
can
look
at
this.
I
think
that's
good
you're,
not
you're,
not
proposing
putting
something
else
on
there.
That
would,
at
this
stage,
right.
T
Councilmember
stokes,
I
like
it
as
it's
written
in
the
pack
in
the
desk
packet,
where
it's.
I
was
just
clarifying
my
what
I
take
away
from
reading.
What
the
desk
packet
is.
A
A
So
I'm
just
being
clear,
you're
saying
you
would
support
this
if
it
specified
grocery
store
these
exceptions
for
a
grocery
store
right,
got
it:
okay,
councilmember,
zan,.
C
Yes,
thank
you
mayor
well.
This
discussion
is
very
helpful
because
I
was
also
a
little
bit
confused
about
what
we
were
actually
what
we
were
voting
on,
because
the
desk
packet
does
not
actually
specify
that
this
exception
would
only
be
for
grocery
stores,
as
the
deputy
mayor
first
mentioned.
So
I
did
want
to
understand.
C
A
Okay,
so
I
agree
that
I
would
like
to
specify
what
this,
what
would
trigger
this
exception
and
for
me,
a
child
care
or
a
grocery
store,
would
trigger
that.
I
think
to
preserve
mom
and
pop
shops,
which
is
another
goal,
that's
actually
you're
asking
for
smaller
spaces.
So
I
don't
know
that
this
would
achieve
that,
but
I
think
the
the
two
goals
that
I
care
about
are
the
grocery
store
and
the
child
care.
A
If
we
want
to
call
those
out,
we
can-
or
we
can
just
say
grocery
store
and
then,
if
a
different
need
comes
up,
it
can
be
accomplished
through
the
d.a.
So
I
guess
those
are
the
two
options
I
care
about
so
deputy
mayor.
Do
you
want
to
make
a
motion
based
on
what
you've
heard
from
your
colleagues.
E
I
certainly
certainly
can
but
mayor
just
to
just
to
clarify,
so
you
want
to
be
specific
in
terms
of
calling
out
a
grocery
store
or
child
care,
and
and
not
because
I
did
hear
some
support
for
doing
kind
of
unmet
neighborhood
needs.
I
understand
that's
a
little
bit
more
ambiguous
for.
E
A
But
go
ahead
and
make
a
motion,
and
then
we
can
discuss
it
further.
Okay,.
E
Okay,
I
moved
to
amend
section
three
of
ordinance
6627
to
expand
the
portions
of
east
maine,
exempt
from
block
size
and
length
requirements
to
350
feet
from
114th
avenue,
southeast
or
main
street
in
luke
20.25q.100.e.4.a.
A
Okay,
is
there
a
discussion
or
questions
on
that,
not
okay,
council
member
stokes,
robertson.
S
Yeah
and
actually
I
like
the
idea
of
putting
the
child
care
piece
in
there
on
that
and
would
really
like
to
find
a
way
and
hope
that
they
will
take
that
as
a
a
great
idea
and
incorporate
one
anyhow.
My
question
is
just
want
to
make
sure
we
we
put
this
specific
exemption
in
here
and,
if
either
of
those
two
things
do
not
pan
out,
the
developer
can
come
back
in
and
with
and
with
the
with
the
d.a.
S
R
So
and
I'll
I'll
ask
my
colleagues
on
the
call
as
well,
so
essentially
my
understanding
of
the
outcome
that
you're
creating
from
this
motion
is
that
the
the
the
draft
requirements
or
the
final
ordinance
that's
in
the
packet
would
require
that
the
block
sizes
would
allow
for
black
size
exemption
for
200
feet
from
114th
avenue,
and
the
allowance
that
you're,
providing
with
this
motion,
would
be
for
350
feet
from
114
and
main
street
for
grocery
stores
or
child
care
uses.
R
R
A
T
Thank
you.
I
came
out
saying
I
would
support
the
motion,
but
I
am
going
to
be
voting
no
on
this
because
it
makes
no
sense.
The
the
area
that
the
exemption
would
apply
for
is
a
lot
bigger
than
a
grocery
store
or
a
child
care,
and
so
you
would
have
you're
putting
things
in
the
wrong
order.
The
way
you
sequence,
you
figure
out
the
way
you're
going
to
lay
things
out
and
where
you
might
put
the
grocery
store,
but
you
can't
just
have
a
block
length,
that's
small!
T
Just
in
one
little
portion
you
have
to
have
continuous
streets,
and
you
don't
know
necessarily
that
you're
going
to
have
a
met
market
in
there
or
a
child
care
center.
You
create
the
space
for
it.
You
recruit
those
tenants
but
you're
building
quite
often,
and
you
have
to
figure
out
where
the
roads
are
going
to
go
before
your
building.
So
I
mean
this
would
be
it's
theater.
T
If
we
pass
this,
it
is
absolute
theater
because
they
will
never
be
able
to
do
it
because,
first
of
all,
you're
not
going
to
put
seven
grocery
stores
in
a
row
in
order
to
get
the
350
foot
block
length,
which
is
what
you'd
have
to
be.
I
know
it's
a
good
idea
if
we
want
to
set
the
table
to
allow
to
have
a
grocery
store
come
in,
we
have
to
set
the
table
and
trust
that
one
will
come
in.
T
We
can't
mandate
it
by
some
larger
block
length
wherever
they
have
it
when
they
have
the
lease
which
is
after
they've,
already
built
all
the
streets.
I
I'm
very
frustrated
by
this
because
it's
it's
it's
like.
I
said
it's
theater,
to
put
it
in
there
to
think
that
we
would
actually
have
a
meaningful
impact.
So
unless
we
take
the
limitation
out,
I'm
voting
no
thanks.
D
D
I
think
that
the
developer
asks
for
certain
things
for
some
specific
reasons,
and
you
know
my
thought
initially
the
two
questions
to
this,
the
the
amendment
says
and
or
either
one
or
an
or
that
makes
a
big
difference.
D
Okay,
even
just
heard
hearing
from
councilmember
robertson,
you
know,
I
think
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense
that
even
and
all
is
still
representing
it.
You
know
that
would
cause
an
intended
consequence,
which
I
don't
know
about
what
might
be,
and
I
think
we
need
to
thoroughly
bash
it
with
the
developer
understand.
What
are
we
doing?
That
makes
sense.
What
does
it
make
sense,
so
I
would
definitely
be
supporting
because
robertson's
the
position
at
this
time
and
I
would
still
support
the
original
motion.
D
A
Q
All
right,
thank
you
mayor.
I
guess
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
with
staff
really
quickly
on
the
idea
around
saying
unmet
needs
just
to
see
if
there
is
a
way
to
firm
that
up
a
little
bit
more,
so
it
would
provide
some
of
that
flexibility.
I
R
So
I'll
ask
nick
as
far
as
other
portions
of
the
code
do
we
have
any
provisions
that
would
be
similar
to
that
sort
of
a
description
and
that
we
would
apply
that
discretion.
X
Not
as
of
right
councilmember
park,
still
I'm
not
I'm
not
aware
of
any.
That
would
grant
that
or
would
I
guess,
provide
that
discretion
to
the
director
to
determine
what
that
unmet
need
is
through
a
development
agreement
process.
I
think
that
would
be
perhaps
a
better
mechanism
to
evaluate
what
that
unmet
need.
Unmet
need
might
be,
but
we
do
not
have
other
places
in
the
code.
I
guess
where
we
would
offer
that
as
a
as
an
option.
A
Thank
you,
okay,
so
mike
I'm
gonna
ask
you
a
question,
and
then
I
know
councilmember
stokes
has
his
hand
up
so
I'll,
get
to
you
again:
councilmember
stokes
and
anybody
else,
but
mike
you
know,
understanding
that
we're
trying
to
make
it
easy
for
a
developer
to
put
in
a
grocery
store
or
a
child
care
center,
and
I
know
we
can
do
that
through
a
d.a.
A
We've
heard
a
bit
of
a
protest
because
they
seem
to
think
it
would
jeopardize
their
ability
to
create
an
agreement
in
advance
of
the
development
and
have
the
security
of
knowing
who
their
tenants
are
going
to
be.
So
what
do
you
think?
Knowing
that
the
council
wants
to
limit
this
opportunity
to
child
care
grocery
store,
or
whatever
else
has
been
called
out
in
the
comp
plan
and
the
neighborhood
visioning?
That
might
be
a
an
essential
need
here.
R
So,
first
of
all,
this
is
it's
a
little
challenging
mayor
to
answer
the
question,
since
we
don't
have
a
development
proposal
in
front
of
us,
as
you
heard
council
member
robertson
generally
we're
looking
at
site
layout
during
the
development
process,
so
the
code
by
right
allows
for
grocery
store
development
within
the
east
main
area.
The
question
is
about
the
configuration
again:
there's
lots
of
property
here,
where
our
grocery
store
could
land
back
to
the
exception.
R
So
in
the
light
blue
on
the
map,
just
to
provide
some
more
clarity,
if
I
can
block
lengths
and
requirements
are
not
are
required,
they're
exempted
out
of
those
areas
shaded
in
blue,
so
you
wouldn't
have
to
build
a
road,
a
pedestrian
path,
a
mid-block
connection,
et
cetera
in
that
area
of
the
blue.
You
could
build
a
very
large
base
structure
that
would
be
uninterrupted
in
that
area,
so
it
allows
by
right
the
developer
or
the
property
owner
to
configure
their
buildings
kind
of
as
they
see
fit
without
those
kind
of
openings.
R
The
exception
that's
being
considered
that
purple
area
would
be
to
expand
that
area
where
blocks
are
not
required.
So
again,
it
would
be.
The
policy
shift
here
is
providing
additional
by
right
flexibility
to
the
to
the
property
owner
and
developer,
to
lay
out
their
site,
as
they
see
fit
again.
Expanding
the
area
where
that
large
base
structure
could
occur
without
those
cross
connections,
roads
or
other
things.
That
would
create
the
block
configurations.
R
What
that
was
the
policy
direction
that
created
the
initial
draft
here
so
again,
this
is
something
that
again,
the
the
shift
or
the
policy
ship
here,
that's
being
discussed
is
expanding.
That
area
in
which
the
the
developer
would
would
have
the
right
to
buy
right.
R
Do
those
larger
base
structure
on
development
condition
and
trusting
that
you
would
get
the
type
of
development
that
the
council
is
seeking
in
your
vision
for
this
area
versus
using,
as
was
mentioned,
the
development
agreement
option
where
the
council
has
the
ability
to
make
a
determination
as
to
whether
or
not
that
configuration
being
proposed
for
the
grocery
store
daycare
or
other
uses
in
that
particular
area
would
meet
that
meet
your
future
goals
for
the
east
main
area.
A
So
my
other
question
is,
then:
is
east
maine,
uniquely
onerous,
because
I
imagine
that
when
we
look
at
wilberton,
when
we
look
at
bellred,
there
will
be
other
developers
of
large
properties
that
will
be
interested
in
putting
the
same
type
of
services
or
tenants
in
their
buildings.
Are
they
going
to
have
the
same
complaint
or
do
other
developers
find
ways
to
do
it
with
these
types
of
confines?
I
guess.
R
So
it's
a
good
question
again,
not
seeing
the
development
proposal
here,
that's
being
considered
and
creating
the
the
challenge.
I
guess
to
cite
the
grocery
store
in
east
maine.
It's
hard
for
me
to
answer
that
question.
I
don't
know
what
constraints
they're
facing
here.
This
area
again
by
right
in
the
code
would
allow
the
the
construction
of
a
grocery
store
within
the
east
main
area.
So
it's
difficult
again
without
that
additional
detailed
information
for
me
to
answer
the
question
whether
there's
a
a
constraint,
that's
insurmountable
here,
based
on
the
way
the
code
currently
drafted.
S
That
was
one
of
the
reasons
I
wanted
to
to
for
us
to
get
into
this,
and
it
just
seems
with
all
the
conversation,
we're
we're,
making
a
decision
kind
of
on
the
fly
that
without
at
the
last
moment,
that
it's
difficult
to
say
whether
this
is
a
in
terms
of
the
the
streets
and
where
the
grocery
store
would
go
seems
to
me
that
we
might
end
up
with
something
that
would
be
very
difficult
to
unfold
if
it
turns
out
to
be
not
very
viable,
and
it's
not
one.
S
It's
it's
important
to
know
that
grocery
store
is
already
allowable
and
if
the
issue
is
simply
where
the
street
goes
and
how
to
put
that
in
place,
I
think
that
could
be
done
relatively
quickly
and
with
assurance
with
a
development
agreement
and
and
same
thing
with
the
child
care.
It's
just
this
I
mean,
I
think
we
all
want
to
do
something
to
assure
we
can
get
a
grocery
store
in
there.
We
also
want
this
project
to
go
forward,
but
you
know
at
some
point.
S
We
just
have
to
come
to
a
point
and
say:
okay,
we've
made
enough
concessions,
we
made
this.
We
could.
We
think
we
all
have
a
very,
very
good
project
here,
and
this
last
piece
should
not
hold
it
up,
and
I
think
we
don't
want
to
come
back
later
and
have
to
unwind
some
thing
that
gets
all
out
of
whack,
which
it
could
if
we
go
forward
as
as
proposed.
S
She
obviously
she
has
a
lot
of
experience
in
in
working
with
cities
with
this,
and
so
that's
that's
good
to
hear
so
I
I
I
seconded
the
motion,
because
I
want
to
have
this
conversation,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
going
forward,
as
as
without
the
amendment
does
not
preclude
a
grocery
store
going
in
in
that
area
and
the
issue
of
parking
and
all
those
other
issues
have
come
up
and
haven't
been
addressed
really
so
the
best
way
both
for
the
developer
and
for
the
city
and
the
constituency
is
to
adopt
this
as
as
proposed
I
mean
without
this
amendment
and
start
the
development
agreement
process.
S
I
think
that
could
be
done
in
a
rational
time
period.
I'm
not,
and
I
think
we
just
it's
one
of
these
things
at
the
last
minute-
it's
difficult
to
make
solid
decisions
based
on
what
people
think
about
this
or
that
and
it
just
I'm
just
concerned.
S
We
may
end
up
with
not
having
a
grocery
store
and
having
real
problems
in
that
area
and
having
to
come
back
and
spend
a
lot
of
time
trying
to
undo
this
when
the
the
best
way
to
go
on
this
particular
one
is
to
go
with
the
proposal
from
that
staff
has
put
forward,
get
into
a
development
agreement
right
away.
It's
not
something.
That's
going
to
take
five
years.
S
We
would
have
had
this
project
done
if
we'd
done
a
development
agreement
earlier.
So
that's
that's
the
way
I
feel
about
it.
Now.
I
think
it's
been
good
discussion.
I
appreciate
all
the
conversation
on
it
and
I
did
second
it,
but
I
I
will
not
vote
for
it.
A
So
councilmember
robertson,
I
see
your
hand,
is
up
deputy
mayor,
has
an
opportunity
to
withdraw
this
motion
and
put
in
a
new
motion
if
you'd
like
to,
unless
you
have
more
feedback,
councilmember
robertson,
I
see
council
members
on
has
her
hand
up
as
well.
I.
T
Do
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
for
mike
sorry,
I
didn't
let
you
know
I
was
going
to
ask
these
before.
I
usually
try
to
do
that.
What's
the
the
block
length
that
we're
trying
to
depart
from
is
200
and
we're
trying
to
make
it
350.,
what's
the
block
length
in
downtown.
R
So,
nick,
as
far
as
the
specific
dimensional
requirements,
I'm
going
to
hand
that
councilman
robertson
to
nick
who's
more
familiar
with
the
dimensional
requirements.
Here,
I'm
going
to
kind
of
respond
to
the
council
members
questions.
X
So
the
the
block
lengths
in
downtown
the
super
blocks
are
typically
600
feet
by
600
feet
and
then
in
bell
red.
The
east
main
tod
is
actually
modeled
after
bell
red.
So
it's
1300
feet
is
the
perimeter
block
district
distance
in
bell
red.
T
Okay
and
then,
which
is
I'm
trying
to
think
that's
a
little
bit
more
than
300
if
you
go
1300
because
1200
would
be
300
for
every
side.
So
it's
a
little
bit
more
than
300
in
bellred.
X
That's
correct,
it's,
it
would
be
325
and
it's
also
325
in
east
main.
They
are
the
same.
T
That's
fine,
so
the
reason
that
the
grocery
store,
even
though
it's
allowed
under
the
zoning,
isn't
really
feasible
with
the
smaller
block
size
is
because
grocery
stores
are
really
large,
they're
one
floor
and
even
if
they're,
underneath
at
the
ground
floor
of
a
high-rise
building,
they
tend
to
be
one
floor.
T
They
tend
to
have
to
be
big
and
when
you
have
a
high-rise
there
are,
what
do
you
call
them
pillars,
but
then
you
have
to
figure
out
how
to
design
the
grocery
store
so
that
you
have
enough
room
and
you
don't
have
pillars
blocking
people
with
their
carts
and
whatnot.
T
So
they
have
to
be
big
enough
to
fit
within
the
block,
and
that's
why
the
the
developer
said
they
can't
really
they
want
to
put
them
at
market
market
wants
to
come
here,
but
they
can't
do
it
with
these
block
length
sizes.
They
need
the
bigger
block
lengths
to
have
a
bigger
grocery
store,
because
grocery
stores
are
70,
000
square
feet
or
more,
and
then
you
need
parking
and
all
that
other
stuff.
So
that's
why
the
exception.
T
I
I
think
that,
based
on
the
discussion,
w
mayor
noonhouse's
motion
is
not
going
to
pass,
so
I
would
like
to
make
a
substitute
motion
to
make
the
exception
to
l,
uc,
2025q,
100
e4a,
to
read
114th
avenue,
southeast
block
size
and
length
requirements
shall
not
apply
to
oh
wait.
T
There's
a
typo
here
to
the
any
project
through
the
project
limit
or
any
project
limit
that
thus
should
be
stricken
to
any
project
limit,
wholly
contained
within
300
feet
from
114th
avenue,
southeast
or
main
street,
and
what
I'm
reading
for
without
the
typo
is
exactly
what
was
in
the
dust
packet
sent
to
council
on
friday,
which
was
deputy
mayor's
original
motion.
I'd
like
to
have
a
vote
on
that,
because
it
sounds
like
the
grocery
store.
One
is
not
gonna
pass
if.
E
A
C
E
T
Yeah,
that's
basically
it
I
was
reading
from
the
actual
code.
Okay,.
C
C
A
A
D
K
L
D
L
A
D
D
We
stipulate
that
we
talk
about
since
it's
a
lot
of
information
has
been
put
out
there.
I
want
to
make
a
final
statement,
but
yeah
we
don't
really
know
what
we're
talking
about
so,
as
a
result,
a
lot
of
unintended
consequences.
I
have
no
idea
what
that
might
be
and
we're
listening
to
very
different
sides,
the
staff.
I
respect
the
staff.
I
know
where
they're
coming
from
and
I
respect
the
developers
they
are
the
one
that's
going
to
put
money
where
their
mouth
is.
D
They
are
taking
the
risk
and
they
are
telling
us
very
clearly
that
they
need
this
amendment
and
I
believe
in
they
they're
not
bluffing
us
and
we
have
been
working
with
them
for
quite
a
while
and
everything
we're
talking
about.
Starting
from
you
know
the
the
ccat
program.
We
have
to
develop
trust.
D
A
Okay,
so
I
have
a
question
mike
you've
heard
part
some
of
the
council
concerns
about
specifying
us.
You
know
a
specific
use
for
unlocking
this
exception.
A
A
I
don't
want
to
quote
her,
but
not
good
code
to
put
that
language
in
there
is
there
a
way
to
incorporate
this
desire
to
have
an
exception
for
a
particular
use
or
is?
Does
that
not
make
sense.
R
Well,
we
haven't
had
a
chance
to
really
think
the
language
through
on
how
we
would
integrate
the
specific
exceptions.
But
you
again
would
need
to
modify
the
language
again
to
say
that
this
expansion
into
the
purple
area
of
the
exception
would
only
apply
to
buildings
that
contained
daycare
or
a
grocery
store.
If
that
was
the
council's
preference.
R
R
Of
course,
the
developer
is
looking
for
as
much
flexibility
or
freedom
to
you
know,
redevelop
the
property
without
constraint.
So
it's
on
balance.
As
I
mentioned,
my
initial
comments
on
balance
between
you
know
that
shift
in
giving
additional
development
rights
or
flexibility
to
the
developer
versus
the
council
or
the
city,
maintaining
some
control
through
the
code
and
how
the
development
configures
within
this
area.
So
again,
the
blue
area
allows
development
to
not
include
blocks.
R
A
Just
wondering
if
we
did
that
and
voted
that
in
if
a
developer
were
to
have
a
larger
space
created
and
then
couldn't
get
a
daycare
or
a
grocery
store,
would
they
then
be
stuck
with
this
space
that
they
couldn't
lease
to
anything
but
a
grocery
store
in
child
care?
And
I
would
hate
to
do
that
to
somebody.
R
Right
now,
typically,
the
initial
development
for
something
like
that:
it's
a
fairly
customized
development
project
or
space,
so
they
generally
would
have
a
tenant
before
they
would
proceed
with
something
like
like
that
because
of
the
specific
tenant
needs
and
configuration
for
their
programs.
So
generally,
no,
the
again
a
grocery
store
is
a
fairly
specific
use,
it's
difficult
again
to
determine
exactly
where
the
grocery
store
would
be
located
here
and
what
the
constraints
are
that
are
preventing
it
from
being
included
in
a
development
proposal.
A
A
We
can
put
this
off
till
next
week
and
that
would
include
all
the
rest
of
the
ordinances
because
they
all
are
reliant
on
passing
of
this.
Well,
this
is
an
amendment.
No,
so
that's
not
true,
but
we
could
yeah.
We
could
put
everything
off
until
next
week
and
have
give
you
an
opportunity
to
explore
these
kind
of
restrictions
on,
on
the
exceptions.
R
So
certain
mayor
we
could,
we
could
certainly
do
that.
I
think
it's
also
worth
noting
that,
based
on
previous
council
directions,
make
sure
we
didn't
have
large
retail,
like
box
stores,
regional
retail
destinations.
The
maximum
square
footage
allowed
for
retail
in
east
maine
is
25
000
square
feet.
That's
a
fairly
modest
grocery
store
size
to
go
beyond
that
would
require
a
departure
from
the
code
that
would
need
a
development
agreement
to
get
approval
if
it
was
a
specific
development
proposal.
A
Okay,
so
I'm
just
going
to
say,
I
am
ready
to
vote
on
this
proposed
amendment
tonight
myself
and
I
will
I
will
not
support
the
amendment
as
written
council
member
stokes.
S
No,
I
I
appreciate
what
mike
has
just
said,
and
I
I'm
not
sure
anybody
really
understands
what
this
would
mean.
Would
there
be
no
streets,
no
blocks
on
this?
What
impact
would
this
have?
Is
that
piece
actually
big
enough
for
a
grocery
store?
Is
this?
Just
a
grocery
store
is
just
a
kind
of
a
something
out
there
to
help
get
to
deal
with
not
wanting
to
have
streets
in
the
project.
S
I
I
think
that
the
developers
doing
trying
to
get
their
the
best
of
what
they
want
to
do
and
they're
going
to
do
a
great
project.
I
think
the
staff
is
doing
what
it
does
very
well
and
they're.
I
don't
see
this
as
a
well.
The
developers
know
everything
so
just
give
them
whatever
they
want
to
do
and
or
say
you
know,
staff
knows
everything
give
them
what
they
want
to
do.
S
S
I
I
believe
we
have
a
project
that
will
be
very,
very
good
and
we're
just
we're
getting
kind
of
bogged
down
with.
How
can
we
help
make
it
do
that
in
a
in
a
very
uncomfortable
process?
Right
now,
so
I
I
would
vote
against
any
moving
forward
on
this.
Let's
come
back
next
week,
let's
have
some
more
intelligent
conversations.
The
deputy
mayor's
proposal,
I
think,
was
good
and
the
way
it
was
set
out
it
would.
S
It
really
stimulated
some
discussion
which
we
hadn't
had
about
this,
and
I
think
we're
all
all
want
this
to
be
a
great
project.
We
would
like
to
have
a
grocery
store
like
to
have
child
care,
and
any
decision
we
make
tonight
might
just
be
one
of
those
who
wake
up
the
next
morning
and
say:
why
did
we
do
that?
So
I
would
prefer
to
put
this
off
another
week.
We've
been
talking
about
this
for
five
six
seven
years,
another
week's
not
gonna,
hurt
and.
A
I
appreciate
that
and
I'd
like
to
get
everybody's,
you
heard
my
input
and
you've
heard
council
member
stoke.
So
the
question
is:
do
you
want
to
vote
on
this
proposed
amendment
tonight
or
do
you
want
to
push
it
off
till
next
week
to
have
staff
kind
of
examine
council
member
robertson
and
then
I'm
going
to
go
council
members
on.
T
Okay,
I
think
I
lost
my
train
of
thought
in
looking
at
this
I'm
ready
to
vote
tonight.
I
I
thought
that
there
was
an
exception
in
here,
though,
that
for
grocery
stores
being
more
than
25
000
square
feet,
there's
a
annotation.
I
don't
really
understand
a8
on
page
29..
R
X
Yes,
so
councilmember
robertson,
the
footnote
with
the
25
000
square
foot
limitation
would
apply
to
wholesale
retail
and
many
other
retail
uses
within
east
maine
to
limit
those
types
of
uses
like
grocery
stores
to
neighborhood
serving
type
scaled
stores.
X
It
would
mean
25
000
square
feet
and
in
formulating
that
recommendation
for
25
000
square
feet,
we
did
look
at
a
few
examples
of
city
targets:
city
walmarts.
We
looked
at
the
example
over
on
1
16
of
the
the
grocery
store
over
there
to
determine
you
know
what
is
that
neighborhood
scale
or
or
neighborhood
serving
kind
of
grocery
store
size
to
formulate
that
25
000
square
foot.
T
Yeah,
I
thought
it
didn't
apply
to
food
and
grocer
food
stores,
so
that's
where
I'm
now
I'm
getting
confused
so,
but
I
I'd
like
to
finish
this
tonight.
We
have
a
heavy
agenda
next
week
and
the
amendment
was
in
the
packet,
so
I
I'm
in
favor
of
voting
tonight.
I
it
just
makes
sense
to
me
to
allow
if
we
want
to
see
this
kind
of
use.
T
We
need
to
allow
the
flexibility
for
the
property
owner
and
I
think
that
the
while
I
absolutely
support
the
d.a
getting
a
quick
da
on
something
like
this
is
not
really
reasonable,
because
if
the
developers
come
with
the
da
it's
going
to
be
for
height,
that's
going
to
require
more
sepa
and
it
will
be
other
things
folded
into
it.
You're
talking,
you
know,
it's
just
kicking
the
can
down
the
road
on
this
issue
and
to
me
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
do
it.
T
E
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate.
Thank
you,
councilmember
robertson
yeah.
I
feel
like
we
are
kind
of
kicking
the
can
down
the
road
if
we
force
him
into
a
d.a,
I
mean
again-
and
I
think
councilmember
lee
mentioned
this
as
well,
giving
them
the
the
flexibility
to
create
that
that
that
grocery
store
or
for
for
that
matter.
You
know,
I
didn't
like
council
member
marksdale's
suggestion
of
an
unmet
need
in
the
community
or
in
the
neighborhood.
E
I
think
language
like
that
could
suffice
as
well,
but
it
appears
clear
to
me
that
this
kind
of
straightforward
language
is
the
the
the
best
that
we
should
be
using
going
going
forward.
Listen
to
my
colleagues
as
well
as
staff
that
putting
too
much
of
a
constraint
around
us
exactly
how
it's
going
to
be
used
creates
some
create
some
difficulties
in
in
the
code.
E
It
sounds
like
so
I'm
ready
I'm
ready
to
move
forward
with
this
as
well
I'll
be
voting,
yes,
because
I
think
we
we
owe
it
to
the
the
developers
have
a
little
bit
of
flexibility
here,
and
this
is
not
letting
developers
do
whatever
developers
want
to
do.
That's
not
what
this
is
at
all.
E
This
is
a
very
simple
amendment,
just
giving
a
little
bit
of
flexibility
for
for
their
project,
that
that
is,
it
so
just
want
to
make
that
clear,
as
well
so
again
happy
to
move
forward
with
this
and
we'll
be
voting
for
it.
Thank
you.
A
C
Members
on
yes,
thank
you
mayor.
Well,
I
would
say
that
I
appreciate
the
robust
conversation
with
my
colleagues
and
you
know
I
was
supportive
of
what
the
deputy
mayor
originally
brought
up,
which
was
this
amendment
specifically,
though,
related
to
grocery
stores,
and
I
was
I
was
supportive
of
the
mayor,
including
daycare
centers.
I
was
supporting
councilmember
bartsdale
talking
about
unmet
neighborhood
needs
related
to
our
comp
plan.
C
C
C
So
so
mayor
we're:
are
we
saying
that,
from
mike's
standpoint,
we
couldn't
vote
on
an
amendment
that
included
those
three
provisions
in
it.
A
C
A
So
would
you
prefer
to
wait
till
next
week
to
see
an
amendment
with
that
has
considered
what
you
described,
or
would
you
prefer
to
vote
on
the
amendment
before
us
tonight.
C
Well,
I
would
say
that
I
am
not
going
to
support
this
amendment
as
written
that
has
no
limitations.
C
I
had
still
hoped
that
mike
could
provide
language
so
that
we
could
still
vote
tonight,
but
it
sounds
like
that:
may
not
be
possible,
I
see
brad's
hand
up.
Maybe
he
has
some
thoughts.
I
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much
mayor
and
council.
I
guess
the
question
I
have
is
mike
you've
been
hearing
the
conversation,
and
would
you
be
able
you've
heard
the
interest
of
the
council
members
with
respect
to
grocery
stores
and
day
cares?
Would
a
week
be
enough
time
for
you
to
come
back
with
something.
R
It's
a
little
bit
of
a
squeeze
given
all
the
other
things
that
are
on
everybody's
plate,
it
it
we.
We
would
need
time,
though,
to
make
sure
that
we
vetted
the
any
language,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
we
don't
have
any
unintended
consequences
for
whatever
we
might
do
as
far
as
the
the
amendments
are
concerned
and
that
they
are
appropriately
targeting
what
the
council
members
are
looking
for
as
well,
so
it
may
take
it
may
take
more
than
a
week.
R
D
A
Take
the
opportunity
to
have
staff
work
on
what
you're
describing
council
members
on
and
bring
it
back
to
us.
Hopefully,
in
a
week,
council,
councilmember
barksdale.
Q
All
right,
thank
you
mayor,
so
I'm
in
a
similar
vote
in
terms
of
not
having
just
a
an
open
amendment
but
would
like
to
see
an
amendment
come
back
that
has
some
qualifications
on
it
and
and
I
would
support
that.
C
A
E
Thank
you
mary.
I
would
be
fine
with
that
staff
can
do
that
by
next
week.
I'd
be
fine,
bringing
that
back.
If
we
can
work
that
into
our
agenda.
A
Okay,
councilmember
lee
I'll,
give
you
one
minute.
D
D
D
I'm
going
to
be
concise
and
precise
to
the
point
of
the
question
you
ask
I
will
make.
I
would
like
to
make
the
decision
vote
on
today
before,
because
the
reason
one
you
can
already
see
like
you
know
when
somebody
raised
a
question,
somebody
talk
about
something
just
kept
on
talking
about
unintended
consequences.
We
don't
know
what's
going
to
happen,
so
they
just
come
around
and
around
okay.
D
So
if
we
delay
this,
if
we're
going
to
talk
about,
you
know
d
a
if
we're
going
to
spend
so
much
more
time
to
talk
about
the
da
and
other
things
everything's
going
to
come
out,
we're
going
to
keep
talking
talking,
it's
not
going
to
be
in.
We
already
spent
so
months
and
years
to
talk
about
this.
So
I
would
really
like
to
see
this
move.
Okay,
then
I
feel
that
it
is
a
question
I
agree
with
councilmember
robertson.
I
like
to
vote
today.
A
Okay,
thank
you
any
other
comments
or
questions.
I'm
seeing
four
votes
for
delaying
till
next
week
to
take
a
vote
on
this
and
I
see
councilmember
bark
still
has
his
hand
up,
and
I.
A
Q
A
Okay,
any
other
one-minute
comments
from
anybody.
Okay,
so
I'm
seeing
a
majority
of
people
who
would
like
to
revisit
this
next
week
and
our
rest
of
our
business
was
really
dependent
upon
this
ordinance
and
we
can't
approve.
B
I
apologize,
I
would
suggest
there
are
a
couple
of
different
options.
You
can
look
at
withdrawing
the
amendment
and
the
main
motion,
or
you
can
actually
make
up.
Someone
can
make
a
motion
to
postpone
this
to
a
time
certain
which
would
be
it
sounds
like
next
week,
but
I
a
little
uncomfortable
just
leaving
the
motions
laying
on
the
table
at
this
point.
A
I
hadn't
gotten
there
yet,
but
thank
you.
You
are
correct,
so
I'm
just
clarifying
that.
That's
what
the
majority
of
the
council
wants
to
do
is
to
delay
this
and
that
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
do
the
rest
of
the
meeting
because
they
rely
on
the
ordinance
passing
of
ordinance
6627,
and
this
is
an
amendment
to
that
ordinance.
A
So
can
we
withdraw
the
amendment
and
can
we
withdraw
the
motion
for
the
amendment
and
then
withdraw
the
motion
for
the
ordinance
6627.
A
T
So
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
make
a
motion
to
at
this
point
postpone
the
amendment
motion.
That's
on
the
table
right
now
to
next
week,
then
we'll
once
we.
If
that's,
if
we
can
take
up
the
next
amendment,
we
can
do
that
amendment.
If
it
passes
or
council's
ready
to
vote
and
passes,
then
what
we
would
do
is
we
would
postpone
the
main
motion
after
that
fact,
and
I'm
happy
to
do
all
the
parliamentary
stuff
on
that.
I
just
want
to
know
what
the
options
are.
Thank
you.
T
B
D
Have
a
question:
I
have
a
question
before
I
decide
what
to
do.
I
have
no
idea
what
is
going
on
okay.
So
my
question
is
the
true
question
when
this
will
withdrawing
the
moment
by
deputy
mayor.
Okay,
that's
one
on
the
table.
Second,
what
about
the
amendment
council,
member
robertson?
Yes,
okay!
Maybe
let.
A
A
I
B
T
I
would
like
to
move
to
postpone
action
and
discussion
action
on
the
motion
to
amend
whatever
ordinance.
This
is
ordinance
6627
to
a
date
certain
which
is
next
monday,
12
13
21.
D
A
A
K
C
D
A
Okay,
so
passes
six
one
to
bring
this
back
next
week.
Okay,
thank
you
for
your
patience
with
me.
I'm
this
is
a
little
complex
but
we'll
get
through
it.
So
we
are
still
have
the
motion
on
the
table
for
ordnance
6627
and
we
have
another
amendment
to
that
and
council
member
robertson
is
going
to
to
propose
that
so
go
ahead.
Council.
T
Member
robert
thanks,
I'm
just
going
to
make
the
motion
and
then
I'll
walk
with
staff
and
I'll
walk
you
through
it.
So
I
I
sent
out
just
to
orient
everyone
I
sent
out
or
staff
sent
out
on
my
behalf,
the
amendment
friday,
we
heard
from
east
side
housing
roundtable
over
the
weekend,
and
I
worked
with
staff
today
to
tweak
what
I
had
sent
out
on
friday
to
take
into
account
their
their
their
input.
T
Permit.
Second:
okay,
thank
you!
So
the
the
way
the
the
code
was
written
before
it
allowed
60
naw
of
commercial
development
only
up
to
60
to
be
built
before
the
developer
had
to
build
all
of
the
35
housing
and
before
they
could
get
the
rest
of
their
commercial
development.
T
So
we
had
requests
from
stakeholders
asking
to
phase
it
so
that
they
could
build
it
as
market
demands
in
pieces,
and
they
wanted
to
do
that
as
a
matter
of
right.
So
I
originally
what
got
sent
out
friday
is.
I
originally
I
worked
with
staff
and
they
explained
to
me
that
what
the
developer
had
asked
for
would
leave
the
last
third
of
the
housing
as
the
final
piece
to
be
delivered,
in
which
case
we
might
never
get
that
now.
I
think
we
would.
T
I
think
the
market
would
would
make
it
so,
but
I
know
how
important
housing
is
to
this
council
at
this
site,
and
so
I
we
made
it,
we
moved
it
around
mike.
Can
you
pull
up
the
phasing
that
that
really
great
that
showed
the
blocks
staff?
Our
staff
are
so
brilliant.
They
just
come
up
with
stuff,
so
this
is.
This
is
what
this
is.
Is
this
what
it
was
before.
T
T
They
can
only
build
50
of
the
non-residential
before
they
have
to
start
delivering
on
the
housing
so
and
they
you
can
see
the
order
that
they
would
deliver
them,
the
gray
being
non-residential
the
green
being
residential
with
the
very
last
piece
being
the
commercial
so
that
all
of
the
residential
is
built
before
they're
allowed
to
fully
max
on
the
commercial.
So
this
allows
phasing
now.
The
comment
we
had
from
the
east
side,
housing
round
table
said:
wait
a
second.
What
if
they
want
to
build
at
the
same
time,
they're
building
office
here
and
residential
here?
T
Can
they
build
simultaneously?
So
I
talked
with
staff
today
and
the
concern
was:
what
do
you
mean
simultaneously?
They
can
pull
a
permit
for
both,
but
then
they
may
not.
They
could
just
stick
the
residential
permit
in
a
drawer
and
build
the
commercial.
So
that's
where
our
brilliant
staff
came
up
with
this
idea
of
making
sure
that
it's
actually
underway,
where
you
have
an
inspection,
so
by
doing
it
amending
it
this
way,
one
we
get
the
housing
a
little
bit
faster
than
under
the
default
code.
T
That
is
in
our
packet
two
that
allows
the
developer
to
phase
it
where
they,
but
they
continue
to
build
the
residential
and
phases
while
the
in
order
to
unlock
the
commercial
in
phases
and
three
by
putting
in
the
additional
language
they
can
build
up
simultaneously,
they
just
have
to.
We
just
have
to
make
sure
that
they're
really
I
I
tr
this
is
not
if
the
developer's
watching
we
trust
you.
This
is
not
at
all
about
trust.
T
It's
just
about
making
sure
the
land
use
code
is
right,
so
that
it's
done
so
that
the
people
of
the
city
will
get
what
the
council
is
establishing
as
the
standards
for
this
zone,
which
is
the
residential
requirement
and
making
sure
that
that's
built
sooner,
because
I
know
that's
important
to
this
council.
So
that
is
this.
The
essence
of
my
amendment,
I
think
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
T
It
gives
the
developer
more
flexibility
and
will
also
deliver
housing
for
this
area
a
little
bit
sooner
than
it
otherwise
would
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
questions
or
you
can
ask
questions
of
staff.
This
really
was
very
much
in
partnership
with
staff,
helping
me
draft
this
and
really
think
it
through,
and
I
appreciated
the
help
from
them.
So.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
councilmember
robertson.
I
see
council
members
stokes
hand
up,
and
I
see
council
member
lee
go
ahead.
Council
member
stokes
son.
S
Yeah
I
I
seconded
that,
because
I
appreciate
this-
I
think
it's
really
an
advancement.
It
will
help
us
get
affordable,
housing
and
housing
quicker.
S
It
doesn't
upset
the
apple
card
in
terms
of
the
whole
overall
development,
and
actually,
when
you
look
at
it,
it's
makes
it
even
smoother
in
a
sense
and
and
more
sense
to
it.
So
I
think
this
is
a
very
is
an
improvement
and
I'm
hardly
in
favor
of
it,
because
I
really
want
them
to
get
moving
both
on
residential
and
non-residential
and
particularly
residential,
that
includes
affordable
housing.
D
Thank
you
yeah.
I
really
appreciate
what
councilmember
robertson
has
done.
I
mean
he
is
he's
a
she's,
a
gm
to
in
land
use
decisions.
D
My
question
to
her
is:
we
know
that
you
know
the
developers
concerned
that
when
they
are
required
to
build
residential,
affordable
residential,
they
need
to
have
the
economic
support
from
non-residential
development
as
well,
because
you
know
it's
uncertain
how
well
the
residential
property
you
know
is
being
marketed
and
accepted,
and
so
with
your
modification
here,
and
I
really
think
it's
great
that
you
have
worked
with
the
staff
to
come
up
with
this
idea.
D
T
Mayor
can
I
answer
yes,
that
was
a
question
to
me
so
councilmember
lee,
the
the
market
for
office
is
so
strong
right
now
that
if
we
allow,
if
we
had
this
zone
for
whatever
anything
goes,
it
would
probably
develop
100
office,
maybe
a
little
retail,
but
the
council's
made
it
really
a
high
priority
that
we
see
housing
here.
So
the
way
to
do
it
to
make
sure
that
we
get
housing
sooner
rather
than
later
is
to
have
there
be
tiered
unlocking
of
the
of
the
commercial.
T
They
can
build
1.1
million
square
feet
of
commercial
out
of
the
blocks,
and
hopefully
once
that's
you
know,
I'd
hope
they
would
do
residential
at
the
same
time,
but
that
will
start
generating
revenue,
but
then,
if
they
want
to
unlock
more,
they
have
to
do
some
of
the
residential,
and
so
it's
a
push
pull.
But
I
think
that
this
is
fair,
because
the
council
wants
to
see
this
residential
here.
If
we
actually
mean
it,
then
it
needs
to
be
phased.
That
doesn't
mean
that
they
can't
change
it.
T
They
could
just
build
the
first
tier,
the
1.1
million
square
feet
and
stop
and
they
could
and
that's
a
that's,
a
any
land
use
code.
You
never
know
what
people
are
going
to
for
sure
build
and
when,
but
I
think
that
it's
there's
enough
of
the
commercial
still
on
the
table
that
it's
going
to
very
much
incentivize
the
development
of
residential
and
if
this
ultimately
does
not
work,
the
developer
can
seek
a
different
phasing
plan
in
the
d.a.
T
A
C
Council
members
on
yes,
thank
you,
so
I
appreciate
the
language
that's
written
in
about
making
sure
that
you
know
we
we
do
have
our
first
inspection.
So
it's
tied
to
that.
I
think
what
I'm
really
trying
to
understand
is
this
visual
of
the
one.
Two
three
four
makes
sense
to
me.
Where
I'm
struggling,
though,
is
the
table?
That's
actually
gonna
be
in
the
code.
C
I
can't
get
the
math
to
look
the
same
as
the
graph,
so
help
me
understand,
maybe
from
staff
standpoint
or
council
member
robertson,
the
table
says
the
portion
of
the
total
residential
that
must
be
constructed
prior
to
non-res
zero
divided
by
three
that's
zero.
So
this
to
me
looks
like
you
can
have
up
to
fifty
percent.
T
So,
council,
members
on
you're
understanding
it
perfectly
as
the
code
is
written
today,
they
could
build
sixty
60
before
they
have
to
deliver
any
residential.
So
now
it's
50
and
then
each
phase
is
would
be
unlocked.
So
at
the
50
level,
if
they
want
to
get
get
the
additional
15
of
commercial,
which
is
the
65
percent,
then
they
have
to
build
a
third
of
the
residential
to
unlock
that
then
at
once
they're
at
65
percent
commercial.
T
If
they
want
to
get
to
80
percent
of
the
maximum
commercial,
they
have
to
build
the
next
third
of
the
housing
then
before
to
get
the
last
20
max
on
the
commercial
they
have
to
build
the
final
third
of
the
housing.
Does
that
make
sense?
So
it's
it's
just
a
textual
way
of
saying
the
same
thing
with
the
bar
graph,
but
the
bar
graph
makes
it
more
understandable
to
me
too.
Okay.
C
So
I
am
what
I'm
struggling
with
is
the
current
draft
that
we
have
been
seeing
this
whole
time
says
that
when
you've
gotten
to
60
non-residential,
you
have
to
build
35
residential
right.
Now.
If
I
look
at
the
way
that
this
table
is
drafted
when
you
get
to
50
non-residential
you're
not
obligated
to
have
built
any
residential
at
that
point
and
when
we
get
to
the
65,
which
is
higher
than
our
original
60
percent,
you're
only
obligated
to
provide
me
11.7
percent
of
residential
instead
of
the
35.
C
X
Sure
I
can,
I
can
walk
through
this
council
members
on
and
councilman
robertson-
that's,
okay!
So
with
the
with
the
draft
ordinance,
what
we're
looking
at
here
is
65
as
the
maximum
non-residential
development
capacity
for
the
tod,
because
council
did
require
a
35
minimum
housing,
and
so
you
would
have
to
reserve.
You
know
35
of
the
development
capacity
for
residential
development
and
then
you
would
have
65
for
non-residential,
and
so
the
draft
code
asks
for
or
allows
for
60
of
the
non-residential
development
capacity.
X
So
this
box
is
kind
of
over
halfway
full.
It
allows
for
that
to
occur
before
you
trip
the
residential
requirement
and
so
to
unlock
the
middle
box,
which
is
the
remaining
resident
or
non-residential
development.
You
would
have
to
build
the
full
amount.
The
developer
would
have
to
provide
the
full
35
percent
housing
requirement
in
order
to
access
that
remaining
box
of
non-residential
development,
which
is.
C
How
you're
getting
the
39
okay,
so
if
so
for
a
comparison,
then
what
we're
saying
is
we?
What
was
current?
What
was
in
our
original
packet
is
the
39
non-res,
then
the
35
residential
and
then
the
remaining
okay.
So
that's
the
comparison
we're
trying
to
make
it
was
confusing,
because
we
only
had
one
table
for
the
amendment
and
not
the
one.
C
That
was
for
the
code
that
was
being
proposed
so
okay
and
that's
how
we're
getting
to
essentially
parity
and
it
becomes
then
more
of
the
phasing
of
the
two
and
three
into
two
through
seven
instead
of
the
one
two
three
so
essentially,
they
end
up
being
mostly
to
parody.
B
C
That
that
was
not
really
very
clear,
because
there
was
only
one
table
provided
with
the
visuals
okay.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you
mayor.
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
say
fully
in
support
of
this,
encourage
the
residential
as
we've
just
walked
through
even
even
more
now,
so
I
think
it's
it's
very
clear
that
this
phasing
requirement
will
encourage
that
residential
development
and
I'll
be
supporting
it.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
so
I'm
ready
to
take
a
vote.
A
Are
we
ready
to
take
a
vote
deputy
mayor,
your
hands
still
up,
or
did
you
have
anything
else?
Okay,
all
those
in
favor
of
passing
this
amendment,
as
proposed
by
council
member
robertson.
Please
say
aye.
E
A
Any
opposed,
okay,
so
good.
We
got
that
done
so
we
cannot
pass
the
ordinance
6627.
A
We've
got
one
amendment
passed
and
we
are
going
to
come
back
next
week
and
discuss
the
other
amendment
and
we
cannot
work
on
the
other
ordinances
without
having
first
passed
the
6627
and
I'm
going
to
ask
for
clarification
on
that
from
charmaine.
Am
I
correct
about
that?
Oh,
your
hands
up,
okay,
go
ahead.
B
Yes,
you
are
correct.
Those
are
subsequent
actions,
so
just
to
be
clear,
since
we
do
have
66
27
on
the
table,
I
would
ask
that
someone
would
make
a
motion
to
postpone
the
main
motion
to
december
13th,
as
well
as
the
subsequent
ordinances
for
consideration.
S
A
All
those
in
favor
of
moving
that
discussion
and
vote
to
next
council
meeting,
please
say
hi
any
opposed.
I
see.
Did
everybody
vote,
I
didn't
catch
everybody's
vote.
Can
you
raise
your
hand
if
you
vote
I
for
this?
A
I
Yeah,
yes
mayor,
can
I
mike?
Can
you
just
for
purposes
of
you
know,
expectations
management
tell
us
what
you'll
be
bringing
back
as
soon
as
maybe
perhaps
next
week,
if
you're
able
to.
R
That
will
be
our
challenge,
but
we'll
see
what
we're
going
to
concede
of
the
planning
commission
in
ebcc
this
week
too.
So
we're
a
little
bit
pinched.
But
that
being
said,
what
the
amendment
that
you
want
us
to
craft
here
would
be
to
expand
the
area
in
which
the
blocks
are
exempted,
that
purple
area
when
it
would
include
grocery
store
day
care-
and
I
wasn't
clear
whether
the
unmet
community
need
would
be
a
provision
that
you
would
include
in
this
amendment,
which
is
a
fairly
broad.
R
That's
a
challenging
one,
but
we,
if
that's
what
the
council
is
looking
for,
we'll
work
on,
including
those
three
elements
in
a
some
language
for
a
code
amendment
to
the
draft.
That's
in
the
council
current
council
package
and
then
we
would
bring
back
all
of
the
ordinances
that
are
in
the
packet
this
evening
for
your
reconsideration
next
week.
A
I
heard
a
desire
to
examine
whether
we
can
put
language
that
is
consistent
with
the
comp
plan
and
with
the
east
main
visioning
process.
That
would
that
you
could
incorporate
into
that.
Is
that
correct,
councilmember,
barksdale.
Q
That's
correct,
I
would
I'm
interested
in
whether
the
unmet
needs
would
provide
if,
if
there's
a
firm
way
to
speak
to
unmet
needs,
that
would
be
ideal.
But,
yes,
the
underlying
intention
is
to
bring
in
the
comp
plan
and
visioning.
I
A
Okay,
that's
all
we
ask
and
I
think
we're
all
aware
that
we
may
have
to
postpone
this
a
little
too.
I
I'm
hoping
we
don't
have
another
december
meeting
after
the
13th,
but
have
to
take
this
up
in
the
in
the
early
new
year,
so
we'll
we'll
all
do
our
best
on
that.
Okay!
Well,
with
that
this,
unless
there's
any
other
comments,
the
meeting
is
adjourned.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
participation
and
consideration
of
all
the
issues,
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
you
again
next
week,
good
night.