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Docket #0617 - Hearing to discuss rent relief for commercial and residential tenants in City and BPDA owned properties
B
D
D
H
D
Whatever
reason
I
can't
see
anybody,
but
what
I
will
do
is
gut
and
start
and
then
folks
do
want
to
speak
during
the
back-and-forth.
I
will
go
ahead
and
have
a
look
at
the
raised
hands
for
now.
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
start
the
hearing.
My
my
name
is
lydia
edwards.
I
am
the
chair
of
the
Housing
and
Community
Development.
Hearing
committee.
D
Excuse
me
and
I'm
here
with
counselor
Michelle
woo,
who
is
the
sponsor,
lead
sponsor
of
this
hearing
order
on
rental
assistance
for
public
or
BPD
a
loan
property
that
is
docket
number
zero
one
six
seven,
unfortunately,
I
don't
have
the
intro
mark.
So
one
of
the
many
ways
in
which
we
could
be
watching
this.
So
I'll
wait
for
that.
But
for
now
I
want
to
go
ahead
and
get
this
started
while
I
work
out
these
technical
issues.
So
I
want
to
turn
it
over
to
the
chair
of
this.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
really
appreciate
everyone's
time
as
I
know,
we're
always
working
on
so
many
different
things
and
there's
there's
a
lot
coming
day-to-day
and
everyone's
plates,
and
this
is
part
of
two
topics
that
we've
brought
forth
at
a
council
meeting
a
few
weeks
ago
about
ways
that
the
city
could
immediately
take
municipal
steps
to
offer
relief.
I
know
on
this
topic
in
particular
that
many
of
the
tenants
already
in
city
owned,
be
PDA
owned.
C
We
know
that
we've
heard
from
many
tenants,
especially
commercial,
small
business,
that
it
is
an
incredibly
difficult
time
all
around,
and
so
we
want
to
do
our
part
where
the
city
has
a
little
bit
more
control
as
landlord
to
make
sure
we're
taking
every
possible
step
and
understanding
the
implications
that
has
on
the
city
budget
budget
down
the
line
as
well.
Thank
you
very
much.
Everyone.
D
Unless
my
other
colleagues
have
some
introductory
remarks,
I'd
just
like
to
hear
from
the
administration
and
go
directly
to
them
so
I
don't
know
I'm
scrolling
through
pictures
to
see
any
hands
raised
for
intro
remarks
and
I
didn't
get
an
e
hand
raised.
Okay,
so
go
ahead
and
turn
it.
Oh
sorry,
I
see
you
counter.
Sorry
George
is
also
here
just
saying
you're
here,
okay
got
you.
H
C
D
G
Here
in
Boston,
mayor
Walsh,
this
council
and
leaders
across
the
government
have
been
at
the
forefront
of
responding
to
the
challenges
that
at
endemic
is
placing
on
our
businesses
and
the
residents
of
our
city
as
a
major
real
estate
owner
in
Boston.
The
VP
day
is
also
seeking
to
use
our
position
as
a
landlord
to
help
those
in
need.
Two
weeks
ago,
we
launched
a
program
in
process
to
allow
our
tenants
to
apply
for
deferment
of
rent
payments.
G
The
real
estate
industry,
many
commercial
tenants,
have
suffered
sudden
and
dramatic
revenue
loss
BP
day.
Attendants
are
no
exception
to
this.
Our
tenants
fuel
bosses
economy
and
create
thousands
of
jobs
for
Boston's
residents
and
as
an
agency,
we're
committed
to
them
in
case
any
of
you
aren't
familiar
with,
or
anyone
watching
is
unfamiliar
at
the
BPA's
real
estate
portfolio.
We
own
13
million
square
feet
of
land
across
Boston.
Our
largest
holdings
are
in
the
Charlestown
Navy
Yard,
and
the
Raymond
L
Flynn
Marine
Park
in
South
Boston.
G
We
currently
leased
property
across
142
different
commercial
leases,
the
majority
of
our
properties,
around
least
meaning
that
they
are
given
to
an
owner
for
a
period
of
70
to
99
years.
These
owners
often
have
subleases
that
they
lease
out
to
the
building
to
commercial
tenants.
However,
we
also
operate
three
buildings
directly:
the
China
trade
building
and
Chinatown
12
channel
and
22
drydock
in
the
Marine
Park
and
across
our
portfolio.
Our
tenants
range
from
small
local
businesses
that
are
there
very
often
locally
owned
to
large
multinational
corporations.
G
Their
sectors
that
they're
involved
in
are
just
as
varied
to
include
education,
healthcare,
arts,
industrial
manufacturing,
retail,
maritime,
commercial
office,
research
and
development
and
others,
but
no
matter
their
size
or
industry.
Cobin
19
is
placing
significant
stresses
on
our
tenants,
their
businesses
and
their
employees.
Therefore,
the
VTA
believes
it
is
in
the
public
interest
to
be
able
to
offer
immediate
rent
relief
to
those
tenants
in
the
greatest
need,
and
we
have
developed
an
application
form,
as
I
mentioned,
pretends,
to
fill
out
and
request
a
department,
and
we've
already
sent
it
to
many
of
our
tenants.
G
This
application
asks
tenants
to
quantify
their
needs
by
providing
documentation
of
financial
hardship.
Each
application
is
being
reviewed
by
a
committee
of
staff
from
our
real
estate,
finance
and
legal
team,
and
we
believe
that
a
needs-based
rent
deferment
program
will
appropriately
balance.
Our
commitment
to
supporting
our
tenants
well
also
operating
within
our
budgetary
constraints.
G
Evaluating
requests
based
on
need
will
also
allow
us
to
prioritize
assistance
to
the
small,
local
women
and
minority-owned
businesses
that
need
our
help.
The
most
so
in
conclusion,
the
BPA's
mission
is
to
guide
inclusive
growth
in
our
city
and
our
so
v19.
Rent
deferment
program
is
a
policy
tool
that
allows
us
to
support
our
tenants,
retain
jobs
and,
ultimately,
a
return
to
economic
growth,
hopefully
in
a
not
too
different
distant
future.
G
So,
on
behalf
of
EPA,
I,
sincerely
appreciate
the
council's
interest
in
supporting
local
businesses
in
our
commercial
tenants,
who
are
so
crucial,
critical
to
the
economy
of
our
community
and
I'm.
Happy
to
answer
any
questions
today
and
nofa
turn
it
over
to
Donald
or
Tim
for
them
to
give
a
quick
opening
statement
or
pro
bono
questions.
But
thank
you
very
much
I'm
glad
to
be
here.
J
J
J
Activities
are
also
other
that
idea
of
block
thin
pop
by
commercial
entities.
Our
relation
sees
our
mix
of
small
contractors,
real
estate
developers
non
part,
not
and
nonprofits.
We
will
not
be
victim
or
moving
any
of
our
licensees
from
DND
properties.
During
the
stop
order,
when
a
request
comes
in,
we
will
make
an
immediate
decision
to
defer
payments
with
the
only
requirement
is
to
continue
to
carry
liability
insurance
to
date.
J
I
No
no
I'm
just
here
to
kind
of
back
off
DND.
If
there's
any
specific
questions,
but
I
think
it
was
a
little
bit
hard
to
hear
a
little
bit
of
what
Donald
said.
I
think
one
point
was
that
yeah
I
think
the
one
thing
that
he
said
it
was
important
that
you
probably
didn't
hear
was
that
there's
only
13
properties
with
commercial
entities.
D
C
You,
madam
chair,
thank
you,
everyone
for
your
presentations
and
again
Donald
I'm.
Sorry,
if
I
end
up
asking
questions
that
you'd
said
it
seemed
like
the
Tech
was
cutting
in
and
out
a
little
bit,
so
I
think
we
missed
a
few
sentences
here
and
there
so
I'll
start
with
with
debin
okay.
So
you
had
mentioned
that
the
BP
day
has
already
reached
out
to
all
tenants
and
created
a
deferral
program.
Could
you
just
talk
a
little
bit
more?
What
is
that
timeframe
for
deferral?
G
G
Right
now,
the
application
form
is
for
rent,
due
in
the
months
of
April,
May
and
June
sort
of
trying
to
just
word
it
that's
the
fiscal
year
we
ran,
so
we
don't.
We
want
to
close
up.
We
understand
out
what
the
what
the
budget
looks
like
this
year.
We
can
certainly
entertain
in
request
beyond
that,
we'll
probably
send
out
a
new
application
form
for
a
play,
21
impact.
So
right
now
it's
April
May
enjoy
this
here,
but.
G
So
several
tenants
in
our
12
channel
street
building
and
it's
a
mostly
industrial
building
in
the
Marine
Park,
so
we
have
some
office
tenants
in
there
we
have
reached
on
first
floor.
They
want
to
name
specific
tenants
that
have
applied
their
attendance
in
there.
There
are
certainly
facing
hardship,
and
so
they
they've
already
filled
out
the
application
form
send
it
back
told
us
like
this
is
what
their
gross
receipts
look
like.
This
is
what
the
cash
they
have.
K
G
Hand,
this
is
what
their
forecasted
revenue
looks
like
and
they're.
What
we've
asked
in
in
the
application
form
is
for
them
to
propose
what
things
and
so
we're
taking
a
look
at
that
we
have
a
committee,
the
folks
across
our
our
agency.
They
look
at
that.
Yes,
it
seems
justified
or
you
know,
maybe
maybe
a
full
department
doesn't
make
sense
based
on
what
you've
sent,
but
maybe
the
partials
affirm
it
might
make
sense
and
anyone.
G
We
say
no
to
I'm,
not
sure
I'm,
understanding
that
we
will
say
no
to
anyone,
but
if
we
were
to
it
would
be
because
we
believe
they
had
the
ability
to
pay
and
we
wanted
to
save
our
funds
to
help
those
in
the
greatest
need,
like
I
mentioned,
so
we're
trying
to
trying
to
make
sure
that
those
who
really
need
our
help
absolutely
get
it,
and
so
part
of
that
is
also
evaluating
that
so
that
people
who
can
pay
do
so.
We
have
the
money
on
hand
to
whether
that.
G
So
yeah,
a
partial
deferment
would
be
hey
you
OS
did
you
pay
us
30%
of
your
rent,
so
accurate
our
site
instead
of
all
your
rent?
So
in
terms
of
when
what
does
it
do,
that's
also
a
decision
will
make
tenant
by
tenant,
I
think
at
a
minimum
it
would
be.
We
did
in
doing
FY
21
across
the
whole,
spread
across
the
whole
12
months,
and
that's
why
21
we
did
the
sort
of
soonest
payment
program
we
would
offer,
but
many
of
our
tenants
have
multi-year
vulvar
tons
of
multi
year
leases.
G
G
Now
our
offers
deferment,
I
think
we
know
that
that
might
they
might
be
a
forgiveness,
need
for
some
tenants
and
we
expect
that
they
they
might
ask
for
that
in
the
application
and
but
at
a
minimum.
So
the
BBJ
board
voted
last
night
to
give
us
the
authority
to
enter
into
government
agreements
without
bringing
back
each
tenant
to
the
board
for
approval,
because
we
know
we
need
to
really
act
fast.
I
if
there
was
a
tenant
that
truly
needed
forgiveness.
H
G
Where
our
last
week
there
was
24
tenants,
we
sent
the
applications
to
learn
to
the
bass
for
it
and
let
last
week
we
haven't
gotten
all
those
applications.
Back
to
last
week,
we
had
our
leasing
managers,
call
everyone
and
say
hey
how
you
doing
need
some
help
filling
this
out.
It
will
work
with
them
through
it.
I
want
to,
like
I,
want
to
be
able
to
offer
the
assistance
to
anyone.
When
you
do
ok.
C
G
G
C
So
potentially
I
guess
I'm
just
trying
to
and
madam
chair
just
cut
me
off
and
I'll
come
back
for
a
next
round.
I
don't
want
to
take
up
all
the
time,
but
just
trying
to
understand
kind
of
the
eventual
impact.
How
many
tenants
sub-tenants
attentions
have
you
know
eventually
who?
How
many
and
groups
entities
organizations
businesses
are
there
in
BPD
a
owned
buildings
all
together.
I
G
I
think
the
best
way
to
answer
that
there's
142
leases
right,
so
that
would
be
the
maximum
number
of
entities
that
we
could
enter
into
agreements
with,
but
we
can't
enter
into
agreements
with
an
entity
that
we
don't
collect
ransom.
So
there's
a
142
renting
lease
agreements,
that's
that
is,
as
far
as
you
could
go.
C
For
the
next
round,
so
just
in
terms
of
looking
back,
so
what
are
your
plans
for
once
the
application
period
closes
or
once
you've
gotten
a
you
know
all
the
materials
in
from
from
you
who
will
be
applying
when
will
that
be
made
public
in
terms
of
how
many
of
those
tenants
have
received
relief
to
what
amounts
and
by
what
date?
Since
there
are
so
many
individual
negotiations
and
yeah
yeah.
G
Great
question:
cap
I:
don't
really
have
a
firm
answer
on
that,
because
we're
still
like
in
the
middle
of
this,
we
didn't
set
a
deadline
on
the
application,
but
we
want.
We
said
we
know
your
need,
get
us
back
your
applications
as
soon
as
possible
and
we'll
evaluate
it
we'll
get
back
to
you
soon
as
possible.
So
we
didn't
say
must
be
in
by
this
time
and
we'll
give
you
a
decision
by
this
time.
If
we
just
I
think
wanted,
we
want
to
actually
to
help
these
businesses.
Okay,.
C
Well,
maybe
then,
but
from
me,
then
it's
more
of
a
request
if
you
could
just
share
with
the
council
as
soon
as
you
feel
that
there's
kind
of
in
critical
mass
of
what
types
of
decisions
have
been
made
and
what
the
details
are.
You
know
obviously
protecting
personal
information
as
as
much
as
you
can
but
curious
to
know
what
size
of
businesses
have
gotten,
what
I'm
not
being
a
full
partial
to
what
extent
and
in
deferment
until
what
date
great.
D
You
Thank
You
council
room
I
was
going
to
just
follow
up
real
quick
with
some
questions,
and
then
I
will
turn
it
over
to
a
believe.
Councillor.
Bach
was
next
just
to
follow
up
on
the
amount
of
leases
that
we
have.
This
is
for
for
both
DND
and
for
BBD.
A
how
many
other
leases
are
commercial
versus
residential
leases.
G
G
It's
so
I
guess
I
would
actually
classify
all
of
the
BPA's
leases
as
commercial
leases,
because
we
do
not
need
I
mean
we
don't
really
need
any
property
directly
to
an
individual
that
lives
there,
but
there
are
a
very
small
number
I.
Think.
That's
really
not!
Would
that
if
I
didn't
answer
your
question
a
better
way
to
answer
your
question,
would
you
say,
there's
I,
think
I
have
the
number
on
Nanak
and
look
it
up.
G
J
And
out
of
our
list
of
13
counselor,
it's
a
mix
of
small
contractors,
we
have
some
nonprofits
and
most
of
them
is
B
to
understand
it's
a
little
bit
more
as
our
licenses
are
temporary
and
use
their
no
long-term
license
analytics
T
of
ready.
It
is
mines.
Also,
our
complicity
is
all
this
plan
contract
doing
the
rest
to
see.
I
I
D
I
am
I'm.
Sorry
I
want
to
be
clear.
Why
I'm
asking
this
question
so
that
may
but
might
direct
some
of
your
answers.
I'm
at
I'm
asking
this
question
based
off
of
the
very
life
in
law.
That's
going
to
be
passed
at
the
State
House
that
provides
certain
protections.
Commercial
versus
residential
properties.
Now
excuse
me
in
as
much
as
you're
the
mortgage
holder,
the
actual
owner.
D
In
some
cases
you
have
some
obligations
that
you
have
to
give
in
addition
to
what
you're
already
giving
and
I'm
just
curious
how
you
balance
there
looked
at
that
law,
that's
likely
to
come
out.
You
won't
be
able
to
evict
residential.
You
also
will
be
able
to
foreclose
you
can
we
do
a
notice
to
quit,
and
it's
great
that
you
guys
are
already
have
that
mindset
before
the
law.
Other
things
that
you
can't
do
or
what
I
was
curious
about
is
in
the
in
the
law,
especially
they
defined
small
businesses
right
as
a
commercial
entity.
D
They've
narrowed
that
class
of
individuals
can't
be
multinational,
can
be
multi-state,
can't
have
more
than
150
employees,
so
they
have
certain
levels
of
rights.
You
cannot.
You
can
file
a
notice
to
quit,
but
you
can't
ultimately
pull
the
trigger.
You
can't
assess
fees
on
them
and
all
these
things
I
just
was
curious.
How
you
are
looking
or
have
you
looked
at
that
law
as
a
landlord?
The
other
thing
is:
do
you
do
you
hold
mortgages
in
any
way,
shape
or
form
either
entity?
Are
you
mortgage.
G
D
G
D
G
D
G
Yeah
I
can't
say
that
we
will
absolutely
become
very
familiar
with
a
lot
or
a
little
bit
about
agent.
Lee
I
think
it's
a
work
in
progress.
We
comply
with
it
and
I
think
we'd
love
to
do
more
than
the
bare
minimum
go
above
and
beyond.
I.
Think
it's
important
to
understand,
though,
that
the
when
it
comes
to
residential
property,
we
aren't
the
residential
landlord.
I
did
a
couple
of
cases
whether
they
ground
lease
to
a
residential
owner
that
owner
of
the
ground,
lease
that
leases
the
units
to
presents
to
live
in
it.
G
H
G
D
And
so
I
guess
and
I'm
gonna
probably
stand
the
BPD
a
because,
as
I
understand
with
DND,
these
are
already
foreclosed
properties.
These
are
already
properties
that
have
of
so
technically
the
law
wouldn't
apply
to
them.
So
I'm
gonna
just
go
back
to
the
BPD
a
and
continue
on
the
question.
So,
if
but
of
your
commercial
tenants
do
any
of
them
qualify
as
a
small
business
under.
D
G
L
Thank
you,
madam
chair
Devin.
Just
for
you,
a
question
I
know
we're
looking
forward
to
having
the
BPD
a
in
to
meet
with
the
Ways
and
Means
Committee
at
the
end
of
May,
but
I
just
wanted
to
ask
sort
of.
As
we
talk
about
these
leases,
where
your
tenants
are
going
to
need
some
forbearance.
What
the
sort
of
portion
of
the
BPD
a
annual
operating
budget
is
that's
underwritten
by
these
kinds
of
leases
that
are
now
vulnerable,
yeah.
G
It's
a
really
good
question
and
a
very
important
one
for
us
and
understand,
as
we've
been
crafting,
this
70%
of
our
operating
budgets
everywhere
in
our
overall
budget
is
funded
by
our
real
estate
income,
the
remaining
30%
our
grants
and
so
we're
largely
funded
by
these
leases
and
an
income
associated
with
the
owning
property.
So
if
we
were
in
a
situation
where
we
had
to
give
forgiveness
to
all
142
tenants
with
EB
PDA
would
be
in
a
serious
financial
hardship.
G
L
G
L
L
F
G
G
Tenants
in
it
yeah
yeah,
it
depends
yeah.
It's
a
great
question,
counselor,
it's
a
hard
question
to
answer
generally,
because
it
really
depends
on
the
lease
agreements
right
and
some
in
a
ground
lease
agreement.
If
you're
allowed
to
sublease
the
building,
there's
a
very
little
interaction
between
the
BDA
and
the
sub
sentence.
In
some
of
our,
like
you
know,
the
china
train
building,
which
is
near
district,
the
12
channel.
Also
in
your
district,
where,
where
there
are
sub
lease
agreements,
those
leases
tend
to
be
shorter.
G
We
tend
to
have
some
more
direct
knowledge
of
food
to
some
tenants
are
and
a
more
direct
relationship
with
them
and,
for
example,
mass
robotics,
their
entire
business
models.
Essentially
some
kind
of
thing:
they
there's
a
small
staff
there,
but
what
they
do
is
their
mess,
their
robotics
incubator
and
they
leave
space
to
robotics
startups.
So
we
absolutely
know
that
they
have
all
these
sub
tenants.
That's
their
part
of
their
business.
F
H
F
You
know
I
don't
want
to
see
people
be
evicted
like
like
you,
don't
either,
but
how
can
we
work
with
the
with
142
tenants
so
that
they
can
provide
the
necessary
technical
assistance
to
their
tenants
so
that
they
can?
They
can
also
be
successful.
It's
not
about
evicting
anybody,
but
it's
making
sure
that
they
get
the
accurate
information.
Women-Owned
company,
yeah.
G
G
I
think
I
mean
I,
guess
I've
been
today
we
can
only
forgive
the
rent
that
is
owed
to
us
right,
so
we
can
only
forgive
rent
to
tenants,
but
but
it
does
would
stand
to
reason
that
if
we
were
able
to
work
out
a
deal
with
a
direct
tenant
that
that
then,
that
kind
of
may
be
able
to
work
out
a
deal
with
their
subtenant.
So
I
think
we
want
to
engage
in
that,
but
exactly
how
that
plays
out
and
now
do
we.
How
do
we
make
sure
that
that
that
is
actually
what
happens?
G
G
That
is,
we
anticipate
that
any
one
of
these
rent
deferment
agreements
that
we
we
strike
will
then
I
will
actually
will
enter
into
a
new
lease
or
an
amended
Lisa
will
have
an
enforceable
mechanism
said
to
enforce
the
agreement
that
we
come
to,
and
in
fact,
if
that,
how
can
they
do
with
some
tenants?
We
can
do
that
in
that
new
agreement.
F
G
Guess
the
sub
releases
aren't
with
us,
so
we
wouldn't
I.
Don't
really
have
that
data
I,
don't
think
I
can
I
mean
we
could
maybe
try
to
find
a
way
to
figure
it
out,
but
the
big
the
sublease
agreement
is
an
agreement
between
our
tenant
and
their
their
tenants.
It's
not
with
us.
So
it's
hard
for
us
to
know
exactly
how
many
right
there
they're
there
and
you
know
different
buildings-
have
different
business
models,
so
some
buildings
may
have
zero
stuff
tenants
and
some
minutes
some
buildings.
That
may
be
what
it
is
right.
G
H
G
G
A
Wouldn't
be
helpful
because
I'm
just
curious
in
terms
of
the
type
of
support
that
we're
offering
vulnerable
businesses,
can
you
help
to
describe
the
application
process
for
getting
a
lease
with
the
city,
and
the
reason
why
I
ask
is
it
is
it
available?
Is?
Is
the
information
available
in
other
languages,
yeah.
G
And
so
I
think
it
depends,
that's
a
great
question,
so
the
original
process
to
get
at
least
it
really
depends
on
the
building,
and
you
know
many
of
these
leases
have
been
around
for
30
years
right,
some
of
them
some
of
the
brand-new
we've
struck
few
months
ago,
some
of
them
same
kind
of
in
every
30
years
in
general,
there
are
probably
two
paths
to
getting
a
lease.
One
is
for
a
for
a
ground
lease
of
an
entire
building.
We
will
put
out
a
request
for
proposals,
there's
a
whole,
usually
leading
up
to
that.
G
If
it's
a
with
a
building,
we
currently
own
our
space
you
currently
own,
like
in
Nubian
square.
We
have
a
planning
process
around
what
we
want
to
see
the
future
of
that
property
look
like
that
is
obviously
translation
and
services
and
local
language
that
lead
for
that.
In
that
planning
process
that
eventually
culminates
in
a
request
for
proposals
and
Coastal's
are
brought
back.
We
are
we
evaluate
all
the
different
proposals
of
the
selection
committee.
G
We
do
that
in
consultation
with
community
members
or
even
led
by
key
in
some
cases,
depending
on
what
the
where
the
property
is
and
then
we
enter
into
a
lease
so
in
in
that
case,
I
think
in
current
conditions.
Yes,
there's
a
lot
of
translation
services
available
in
a
sort
of
office
if
we're
releasing
a
the
one
of
our
direct
least
buildings,
where
we're
generally
going
out
to
the
market,
putting
it
on
in
real
estate
listing
services,
I
think
we
can
always
try
to
improve
on
our
ability
to
reach
out
and
find
great
tendons
there.
A
Thank
you
for
that
and
I'm
curious
I'm
gonna
talk
specifically
about
the
booth
Bolin
building.
That's
a
building
that
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
in
and
I
have
seen
the
rotation
of
businesses
that
have
come
in
and
out
and
I'm
just
I'm
going
to
some
of
it
is
just
probably
the
the
slow
business
and
I'm
just
wondering
how
much
of
it
is
the
fees
in
terms
of
how
much
they
have
to
pay
to
occupy
that
space.
A
G
A
A
I
A
Appreciate
you
a
list
of
what
those
buildings
are
at
some
point
just
so
that
I
can
be
more
thorough
in
my
question
here,
but
for
now,
I'm
gonna
have
some
other
questions
that
I'm
intrigued
about
beyond
the
rent
we
leave.
What
more
are
we
doing
to
empower
businesses
operating
in
bp8
properties,
I'm,
just
curious
in
terms
of
beyond
the
relief?
How
are
you
helping
restaurants,
I'm
transitioning
to
what
takeout
are
you
providing
any
of
that
type
support
to
keep
our
businesses
afloat?.
G
A
A
A
G
So
and
I
really
agree
with
you
on
that
great
great
question:
I
think
I
guess
putting
dovid
19
aside
and
a
for
a
moment.
I
think
we're
really
proud
of
the
tenants
that
we
have.
We
have
some
great
small
businesses.
We
have
great
educational
institutions
that
our
partners
are
plenty
of
leases
that
are
drastically
below
what
the
market
value
is
for
space,
because
we
want
to
have
great
nonprofits
thriving
in
our
city
want
to
have
great
small
local
women
and
minority-owned
businesses
succeeding
with
urban
colleges
a
tenant
of
ours
in
Chinatown,
Main
Street.
G
We've
got
a
lot
of
great
industrial
businesses
that
are
incubating
space.
We
do
a
lot
of
below
market
deals
for
affordable
housing,
so
I
think
in
concept
where
we're
at
we're
really
excited
to
use
our
real
estate
to
make
Boston
a
better
place
and
do
great
Community
Development
and
then,
when
coming
out
more
specifically,
what
can
we
do
after
June?
G
Well
right
now,
our
application
form
is
for
April,
May
and
June
just
want
to
get
back
to
people
quickly,
and
we
know
what
our
budget
looks
like
for
the
remainder
this
year
and
in
it
as
councillor
Bach
brought
up.
We
are
reliant
on
our
revenue
from
our
real
estate
to
keep
the
BPA
in
operation.
We
see
receive
no
tax
dollars.
The
council
knows
Wells
that
we
have
to.
We
have
to
be
financially
stable,
so
they
about
what
we
can
do
beyond
I
think
really
depends
on
what
what
the
economic
picture
looks
like
and
I.
A
What
the
tracking
process
looks
like
I
also
would
like
to
know
why
people
have
been
denied
have
been
supported
just
because
it
helps
inform
our
thinking,
and
it
also
helps
provide
feedback
to
folks,
so
what
they
can
do
differently,
so
I
would
have
a
cake
for
it,
or
something
like
that
to
be
shared
publicly
would
be
really
helpful
and
I'd
yield.
My
time
and
I
wait
for
the
next
round
of
questions
to
ask
some
more.
Thank
you.
Thank.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
and
good
afternoon
to
Donald
Tim
and
Devon.
Madam
chair
Flynn
ate
his
Wheaties.
Today,
he's
been
on
his
game
on
all
the
calls
that
we've
had
today.
So
I
want
to
just
dive
down
a
little
bit
more
on
some
of
the
stuff
that
council
Flynn
mentioned.
Devon
you
had
I
was
just
following
closely,
but
you
had
made
a
statement
that
the
BPD
a
does
not
necessarily
know
who
was
subleasing
the
space
of
city-owned
property
is
that
did
you
mean
to
say
that
was
that
accurate
I.
G
Think
it
depends
on
the
sublease
agreement
right
whether
the
tenant
needs
to
is
required
to
notify
us
of
the
sublease.
So
you
know
at
a
building
that
we're
actively
managing
like
12
channel.
We
absolutely
know
who
every
sub
tenon
is
with
a
ground
lease
development.
That
is
a
big.
The
DVD
has
no
active
ownership
role.
We
only
have
a
ground
these
with
and
we
theoretically
to
retain
regain
ownership
in
99
years.
G
More
of
that
Lisa
struck
we're
not
in
the
position
to
know,
for
example,
our
residential
building,
who
the
tenants
are
and
again
a
commercial
building.
What
who
all
dependents
are
we
try
to
keep
track
of
that
information,
try
to
keep
track
of
what's
going
on
in
our
properties,
but
it
I
think
I
was
speaking
honestly
in
saying
that
we
are.
We
do
not
comprehensively
know
that
there
is
not
a
system
or
a
requirement
for
the
tenants
to
provide
that
information
to
us
unless,
at
the
condition
in
their
lease
and.
E
So,
based
on
that
and
based
on
how
ground
leases
work
in
the
goal
here
is
to
help
small
businesses,
wouldn't
it
make
sense
to
if
the
BPD
a
could
provide
the
rent
relief
directly
to
their
tenants
or
our
tenants.
If
you
will,
on
the
condition
on
the
condition
that
it
goes
to
the
needs
of
the
subtenant,
you
know
so,
I
could
make
an
argument
that
yeah.
G
E
Particularly,
give
you
the
go,
Marie
Flynn
marine
industrial
park
and
you
think
of
you
know,
get
some.
Some
of
our
best
employers
are
down
there
employing
thousands
of
folks
and
there's
some
heavy
hitters
down
there.
That
haven't
missed
a
beat,
given
the
demands
on
whether
it's
their
products
or
moving
Freight,
etc.
So
you
know
they're
not
missing
a
meal.
However,
a
lot
of
those
sub
tenants
are,
and
one
would
naturally
you'd
struggle
if
you'd
kind
of
gloss
over
the
tenant
and
say
wow
they're,
all
said
they're
crushing
it,
but
the
sub
tenants
are
not
in.
E
If
we
don't
know
who
those
sub
tenants
are
based
on
the
ground
least.
In
your
scenario,
then
we
ought
to
have
a
program.
You
know
we
ought
to
be
reaching
out
to
the
landlord's
to
inquire,
who
should
reach
out
to
the
tenants
and
inquire
about
the
sub
tenants
or
provide
a
forum
for
the
sub
tenants
to
deal
directly
with
you.
E
So
again,
if
the
goal
and
the
intention
and
the
spirit
here
is
to
try
to
identify
and
help
our
small
businesses
and
if
we
have
a
little
bit
of
a
mechanism
here,
particularly
on
the
ground
least
side
of
the
house,
where
there's
an
obstacle
whereby
bepd
a
doesn't
really
have
any
access
and
in
some
instances
your
testimony
says
that
we
might
not
even
know
who
they
are.
Those
poor
folks
really
have
have
no.
E
G
I,
a
great
question
counts.
A
great
idea:
I
think
we
love
Ben
we'd
love
to
pursue
it
ending
in
some
cases.
You
know
it
with
some
of
the
very
large
buildings
where
we
have.
Oh
there's
a
lot
of
sub
tenants
in
some
cases
where
we
integrate,
even
in
a
ground
lease
some
of
the
big
buildings
and
then
Rea
Industrial,
Park
innovation,
design,
building,
for
example.
They
are
required
us
to
notify
us
of
their
sub
tenancies
as
a
condition
to
lease.
So
in
that
case,
we
know
who
those
up
tenants
are.
There
is
a
forum.
G
There
is
a
there's,
a
potential
to
be
able
to
reach
out
to
them,
but
in
other
cases
there
there
really
isn't.
I,
but
one
point
you
brought
up,
which
I
just
really
fundamentally
agree
with
I
think
that
the
idea
of
conditioning
our
relief
for
any
tenant
that
has
some
tenants
on
relief
to
those
sub
sentences
and
is
an
excellent
idea
and
adding
something
that
we
could
enforce
in
lease
modification
agreements.
G
B
H
E
Plumber
in
industrial
park,
the
diversity
of
business
is
down.
There's
phenomenal.
You
may
actually
have
a
subtenant
that
no
doesn't
necessarily
sort
of
maybe
jive,
with
the
tenants
sort
of
a
bigger
play
or
bigger
plan,
and
that
tenant
will
basically
just
allow
the
subtenant
to
bleed
oh
and
said.
Oh,
we
fill
out
this
form.
E
Lease
situation.
Where
you
know
a
we
don't
know
the
sub
tenant
is
our
B.
You
might
have
a
tenant
blocking
the
subtenant
from
gaining.
You
know
access
and
resources,
and
you
know
I
just
don't
think
that
that
would
be
right,
fair.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
at
city-owned
property,
we
ought
to
know
who
these
people
are.
We
oughta
move,
this
sub
tenants
are,
and
we
ought
to
make
sure
that
whatever
relief
mechanisms
are
available.
Whatever
forms
need
to
be
filled
out
that
they're,
distributed
fairly
and
equitably
throughout
throughout
tenants
and
sub-tenants.
H
D
You
councillor
clarity,
well,
I,
don't
know
if
you
guys
had
to
respond
to
while
you're
thinking
of
it.
I
want
to
just
announce.
We've
been
joined
by
counsel
is
Braden
on
deck
would
be
counselor,
asabi,
George,
councillor
Janey
and
then,
after
that,
a
counselor,
Aurelio
and
then
counselor
Brayden,
then
we'll
be
going
into
the
second
round.
So
Devin.
If
you
got
any
comments
and
then
we'll
just
turn
it
over
good
counselor,
sabi,
George,
yeah,.
G
Counselor
clarity,
I'd
just
read
a
that
agree.
If
you
want
to
reach
every
Senate
needs
that
kind
of
in
need,
and
whether
we
formally
know
who
is
sent
on
ends
are
not
given
on
what
the
elites
agreement
is:
I,
think
informally,
whether
through
just
relationships
and
knowing
what's
happening
under
different
properties.
I
think
you
yourself
or
many
many
of
our
colleagues
actually
have
these
relationships
with
the
subtenant.
G
D
K
You
I
do
I
appreciate
the
thoroughness
of
my
colleagues
questions.
It's
been
really
informative
to
wound
in
I
love,
to
ask
certain
specific
questions,
but
more
to
just
understand,
understand
this
and
in
the
needs
of
our
business
owners
and
particularly
BPD
a
property,
so
I
don't
have
any
questions,
I'm
going
to
continue
to
listen
and
continue
to
learn,
and
thank
you
all
for
being
here.
Thank
you
to
the
chair
for
her
efforts
today
and
really
the
thoroughness
and
thoughtfulness
of
my
colleagues
questions.
Thank
you
all
be
well.
Thank.
D
M
This
issue
around
commercial
rental
relief
for
small
businesses,
particularly
in
some
of
the
commercial
districts
that
need
a
little
bit
more
support.
I,
would
be
just
generally
speaking
interested
in
and
I
apologize.
I
did
join
this
hearing.
Late
I
was
on
another
call.
So
if
these
questions
were
already
covered,
I'm
happy
to
review
the
tape
but
I'm
interested
in
how
much
money
the
city
is
collecting
overall
in
rents
and
how
many
rental
spaces
there
are,
how
many
of
those
businesses
are
getting
some
sort
of
reduction
and
of
those
getting
a
reduction?
M
M
So
if
there's
less
money
coming
in,
certainly
that
means
something
else
doesn't
get
funded
or
something
has
to
move
around,
but
I'd
be
interested
in
what
folks
on
this
call
and
I
appreciate
you
all
for
being
here
think
how
far
we
could
go
if
we
wanted
to
offer
like
some
sort
of
reduction
for
the
properties
that
we
control
in
the
city,
like
is
a
20%
reduction.
Does
that
feel
right?
M
Is
it
something
staggered
like
based
on
need,
based
on
trying
to
do
more
to
level
the
playing
field
around
small
business
in
the
economy
when
it
comes
to
black
and
brown
business,
immigrant
business,
women-owned,
business,
local
business?
So
and
then
the
question
around
subleases
I
didn't
get
I
know
the
question
came
up,
but
it's
not
clear
to
me
and
maybe
it
was
answered
how
many
of
the
businesses
are
kind
of
subletting
to
other
folks.
G
There's
a
very
comprehensive
question
and
I
think
we
can
dig
into
the
data
for
you
to
get
and
get
to
the
root
of
some
of
those
may
be
one
high
level
answer.
So
there's
really
three
entities
across
city
governments
that
these
property
is
the
BPD
a
I'm,
not
speaking
on
behalf
of
Donald
sam
here
from
D
and
E
property
management
does
lease
some
space
and
municipal
buildings
and
they're,
not
they
weren't
able
to
join.
Today
they
are
the
represent
of
the
building
buildings.
We
don't
we
can't.
G
M
No
I
understand
that
I
heard
that
response
when
councilor
Mejia
was
was
asking
about
it
earlier.
I
just
wanted
to
offer
some
data
points
that
I'm
looking
for
as
Neil
or
whomever
follows
up
that
ask.
So
if
you
could
just
focus
on
the
other
questions
that
I
asked
the
bowling
questions
I
know
I'll
get
later
yeah.
G
Yeah
I,
so
it's
a
very
detailed
question.
I
think
we
didn't.
We
want
to
follow
up
with
a
very
detailed
response,
but
they
give
you
a
sort
of
high-level
answer
in
the
introductory
remarks
wanted
to
convey
that
our
rent
release
program
for
BPA
properties
is
needs
day.
So
we
have
an
application
form.
Tenants
can
fill
out
that
application
form
and
we
send
it
to
many
of
them
to
fill
out.
The
reason
why
it's
needs
based
I
think
speaks
directly
to
your
question,
because
we
only
have
so
much
funding
that
we're
able
to
forego.
G
We
want
to
make
sure
we
prioritize
those
to
the
greatest
need
and,
and
specifically
those
women
might
already
own
locally
owned
businesses
that
probably
need
our
help
the
most
and
so
that
that
is
why
we've
taken
this
approach,
other
landlords
might
just
take
us
straight.
Like
Oh
10%
everyone,
everyone
gets
a
10%
break
approach.
That
I
don't
think
that
was.
We
didn't
think
that
that
was
the
appropriate
public
value
approach.
Ted
to
providing
a
assistance
on
needs
on
be
creative
properties,
because
we
want
to
achieve
the
policy
objectives.
G
M
Yes
and
I'm
aware
that
my
time
may
be
running
out,
but
I
am
interested
in
specifics.
So
when
I
was
asking
those
questions
around
how
much
rent
was
collected,
how
many
you
know
who's
getting,
how
many
are
getting
the
rent
reduction?
I
know
that
you
said
it
was
needs
based
all
of
those
questions.
I
was
hoping
for
specific
numbers.
They.
Those
questions
were
not
necessarily
related
to
the
bowling
building.
I
got.
G
J
G
Were
able
to
join
yeah
councillor
Bach
asked
a
question
about
our
budget.
Seventy
percent
of
our
funding
comes
from
our
real
estate
at
the
DPD,
a
the
other
30
percentage
grants.
We
quickly
collect
that.
You
probably
know
no
tax
dollars
from
the
city.
We
are
not
on
the
city's
budget,
so
all
of
our
funding
has
to
come
from
our
own
organization
from
our
real
estate
deals
or
seventy
percent
comes
from
a
real
estate
deal.
So
that
gives
you
a
understanding
of
how
much
we
have
to
give
right
now.
G
The
application
form
that
we've
sent
out
allows
for
tenants
to
ask
for
deferments
on
April,
May
or
June
rent
payments.
I
mean
we.
We
certainly
suspect
that
really
may
need
to
go
beyond
that,
but
that's
the
sort
of
clothes
this
fiscal
year
we'd
like
to
send
out
a
new
application
for
next
fiscal
year,
rent
affirmance
and
there's
a
committee
of
staff
across
the
VPD,
a
they're
looking
at
each
application
to
determine
the
need
basically
determines
dependents.
That
tenants
asked
for
and
will
work
out
with
them.
What
the
deferment
actually
looks
like.
G
M
D
B
You,
madam
chair
and
so
I
heard
142
tenants.
I
had
some
general
questions
you
may
have
answered
already.
I
did
join
late,
and
so,
if
you
did,
I
have
no
problem
just
going
back
after
this
and
looking
at
it.
But
out
of
the
hundred
and
forty
two
tenants
do
we
know
how
many
of
them
are
actually
currently
closed
and
operational
I.
G
Don't
have
that
number
now,
I,
don't
know,
I
would
presume
the
majority
of
them,
since
the
majority
of
the
city
is
sort
of
closed,
but
I
don't
have
a.
We
don't
have
a
mechanism
by
which
we're
tracking
what
what
what
degree
that
they're
open.
What
have
they
been
able
to
move
their
businesses
online,
like
we
were
quite
likely
missed
the
opening
stage
where
I
described
our
real
estate
portfolio,
because
we
expand
a
broad
variety
of
sectors.
G
So
we
have
a
small
handful
of
residential
leases,
all
the
way
up
to
multinational
corporations
to
small
local
businesses
that
are
retail
oriented.
So
certainly
the
retail
oriented
businesses
are
closed.
The
office
commercial
office
tenants
are
probably
not
going
into
the
office,
but
they
might
still
be
able
to
continue
their
operations
most
of
the
industrial
manufacturing
tenants
that
we
have
are
likely
not
manufacturing
right
now.
Are
there
farther
manufacturing
at
lower
production
level?
So
it
really
is
a
it's
a
really
tenant
by
tenant
question
about.
G
H
G
That
question
wasn't
asked
I
there.
I
don't
have
that
number
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
there,
as
we
certainly
have
many
women
minority
on
local
owned
attendants
and
we
have
large
multinational
corporation
tenants
as
well.
I,
don't
have
the
number
ready
for
you
but
happy
to
follow
up
with
that.
All.
G
Realistically
there's
always
you
know
logistical
challenges
and
sending
checks
to
the
mail.
I
know
that
we
don't
get
concerned.
If
we
don't,
you
know,
don't
get
the
rent
in
the
first
30
days,
I
sort
of
like
normal
course
of
business.
So
it's
hard
to
say
right
now
who
hasn't
paid
the
rent,
because
I
know
I
can
tell
you
that
I
know
that
55%
of
our
rent
has
been
paid
for
April,
but
it's
that
sort
of
normal
that
it
wouldn't
all
come
in
by
the
middle
of
the
month.
B
G
G
G
Yeah
as
soon
as
we
get
a
second,
we
have
a
central
spreadsheet
where
it's
like.
Okay,
we
do
suppose
they
paid
they're
good,
we're.
Okay.
Here
we
got
a
reach
out
to
this
tenant
and
get
them
the
application
form
we're
tracking
every
tenant
that
that
has
an
application.
We're
expecting
it
to
get
it
back.
How.
G
G
We're
not
proactively
we're
sending
to
them
when
they
said
they
want
it
right.
There's
plenty
of
people
who
have
the
school.
You
know
we
asked
them
what
they
wanted.
They
said
no,
but
but
anyone
who
what
we've
sent
it
to
we're
following
up
with
make
sure
they
get
assistance
to
fill
it
out
and
I
think
we
haven't
quite
determined
that
the
Delta
between
who
stayed
and
who
hasn't
Dave
we're
trying
to
reach
out
to
everyone
get
it
have
a
conversation
going.
We
will
we
intend
to
be
very
proactive
and
hand-holding
everyone
through
we're.
G
B
G
We'll
gather
so
many
and
John
brows,
you
seem
did
then
they're
surveyed
in
many
of
our
small
business,
tenants
that
we
could
get
that
data
through
there,
but
I
think
the
way
we
will
gather
that
data
is
through
the
application
form.
Presumably
anyone
who
can
pay
right
now
are
those
the
tenants
that
are
most
at
risk
of
closing
the
doors
more
permanently
and
that
that
asking
them
to
to
craft
their
financial
picture
give
us
a
forecast
of
what
their
future
revenues
look
like.
G
B
H
D
D
D
C
Okay,
thank
you.
Everyone
again,
and
this
has
been
really
helpful
again.
I
know
everyone
has
a
lot
going
on
right
now.
I
want
to
echo
the
calls
to
for
information
on
the
bowling
building.
As
you
can
see
this,
this
has
been
what
I've
been
thinking.
What
has
been
front
of
mind
for
me
in
this
topic,
particularly
we
were
hearing
from
several
the
small
businesses
there.
So
I
know
you
all
aren't
directly
responsible,
but
does
anyone
even
have
a
sense
of
are
the
same
types
of
conversations
and
deferral
or
waiver
programs
being
considered
for
that
building?.
I
C
J
Immediately,
if
their
issues
look
at
a
lot
of
our
outreach
is
stab
where
we
were
talking
them
constantly,
providing
technical
assistance
and
responses,
etc.
So
we've
established
this
rapport
with
them
that
you
know
traditionally
allows
for
them
to
feel
comfortable
enough
early
enough
in
the
situations
and
they
say,
hey
I
might
be
having
some
difficulty
because
we're
not
only
going
to
look
at
D&D.
We
also
try
to
look
at
other
services
in
the
city
that
might
support
them
as
well.
Okay,.
J
C
J
C
J
C
Okay
and
the
other
so
I
guess
across
both
all
of
the
expertise
here
in
the
administration.
Are
there
other
categories
of
places
where
the
city
or
the
PDA
could
immediately
take
action
without
the
state?
Besides,
these
hundred
and
forty
two
visas
and
all
the
tenants
and
sub-tenants
represented
there,
these
thirteen
properties
and
the
various
businesses
that
are
there,
what
are
we
in
the
building
building?
What
are
we
not
at?
What
else
are
we
not,
including
that's,
not
what
we
just
talked
about
a.
G
Hard
question
for
I
think
the
group
here
to
answer
because
we're
very
focused
on
our
department,
that
was,
we
know,
comrades
early.
What
we're
representing
I
I,
don't
know
the
only
other
entity
that
I
said
leases
property
is
property,
management
and
I
honestly,
don't
know
if
they
have
any
other
lease
agreements
beyond
the
bullying
building
where
they
have
correct
leases.
Okay,.
C
Okay,
then
I
guess
my
last
question
for
Javon
yep
great
to
if
we
could
just
find
out
all
of
the
information,
the
data
and
all
those
requests
back
through
the
committee
chairwoman,
then
she
can
make
sure
that
it
gets
to
the
entire
council.
So
that
would
be
much
appreciated
and
then
I
guess
the
final
step.
C
For
me,
you
know
beyond
thinking
immediate
relief,
looking
back
and
accountability
on
who
there,
who
has
gotten
that
relief
and
whether
that
was
comprehensive
just
in
terms
of
the
BPD
a
and
the
city,
having
a
sort
of
stake
in
these
properties.
Are
you
putting
any
requirements
on
how
these
businesses
will
conduct
as
us
going
forward,
whether
it's
you
know
certain
public
safety
requirements,
temperature
checks
or
anything
like
that?.
G
And
so
a
great
question,
counselor
I
think
they
were
really
reliant
on
the
governor,
the
mayor
to
be
issuing
a
guidance
to
businesses
across
the
city
and
then
following
those
that
that
guidance,
ensuring
our
tenants
were
appropriate.
Follow
that
guidance
happy
to
beyond
that
at
you
know,
is
we
were
all
sort
of
in
this
together.
G
Any
privacy
implications
there
before
we
hand
over
any
intimate
details
of
a
business
and
hardship,
I
suspect,
that's
all
public
record
and
we
can
handed
over
I
just
wanted
to
say
on
the
record
that
will
we'll
check
that
first
and
then
we'll
we'll
get
back
to
you
and
we'll
certainly
talk
to
me
about
getting
back
to
you
on
the
question
of
what
was
not
represented
here
today.
Okay,.
G
C
G
The
way
we've
structured
it
is,
we
have
a
committee,
it
said
we
have,
we
barred
it.
We've
had
this
committee
that
makes
heard
decisions
on
our
real
estate,
solar
leasing,
committee
representatives
of
Finance,
the
real
estate
department,
my
department
and
our
legal
department
will
bring.
The
applications
to
that
committee
will
come
up
with
a
recommendation.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
the
decision-making
authority
of
the
BPD
a
is
the
BPD
board.
In
this
case
the
BPD
board
voted
last
night
to
delegate
that
authority
to
the
director.
G
D
Make
the
ultimate
decision
as
to
who
gets
relief?
Yes,
okay
and
just
just
wanted
to
echo.
My
colleagues
call
for
the
BPD
a
to
be
the
best
landlord
that
it
can
be
recently.
We
just
gave
out
checks
to
or
we're
starting
to
give
out
checks
to
private
landlords
to
assure
that
they
give
rent
relief
to
the
tenants
and
the
I
think
one
of
the
issues
that
some
of
us
had
is
that
there
was
no
assurance.
D
You
know
that
they
were
going
to
actually
give
relief
to
the
tenants
in
terms
of
assuring
that
they
wouldn't
raise
the
rents
that
the
landlord's
wouldn't
I
picked.
Those
tenants,
I
think
in
the
second
round.
There
might
be
certain
things
that
we're
talking
about,
hopefully
some
additional
guidelines,
but
in
the
first
round,
though
those
what
we
can
tell
so
far
they
have
or
have
not,
and
so,
if
the
city's
looking
at
advancing
some
strings
with
the
money
it's
going
to
give,
then
I
would
just
hope.
D
Who
really
do
need
that
rent
relief
I
would
hate
to
think
that
in
this
time
of
extreme
need,
there's
a
there's,
a
direct
tenant
under
the
be
PA
who's
being
a
bad
actor,
who's
being
who's
evicting
who's,
doing
a
lot
of
bad
things
and,
as
you
said,
while
he
or
she
or
that
entity
may
not
be
evicted
by
the
BPA,
they
absolutely
could
be
in
the
middle
of
evicting
everybody.
They
want
to
raising
the
rents
and
doing
horrible
things.
So
I
just
want
to
echo
the
colleagues.
D
My
colleagues
call
you
know
to
know
who
they
are
and
to
demand
more
of
them.
If
we
have
a
contract
with
them
and
I
know,
I
know
the
legal
implications
of
that
Devon,
because
the
contract
was
written
sometimes
30
years
before
you
even
had
the
job
and
in
many
cases
I
know
you
have
had
to
look
up
and
find
contracts
before
and.
D
And
other
sub
sub
lessors
in
in
the
BPD
earth,
in
in
even
Charlestown,
so
I
understand
the
multiple
layers
that
we'll
have
to
go
through
that.
But
if
you
sit
in
a
position
of
power
in
any
form,
we're
hoping
that
we
utilize
that
power
to
the
best
of
our
ability
to
help
people,
including
the
sub
tenants
with
regards
to
D
n
DS,
if
I
understood
correctly,
then
of
the
13
properties,
your
contract,
so
again,
there's
no
more
relief
really
to
be
given
to
them
as
they
are
foreclosed.
D
They
are
taxed
for
properties,
but
in
dealing
with
or
in
addressing
the
diversity
and
supplier
matters.
There's
certain
services
to
be
given
to
those
properties,
whether
there's
snow
removal
or
there's
small
contracts
to
be
given
out
to
them,
to
fix
up
to
board
up,
to
make
secure
and
and
to
Dedes
credit,
if
I
understood
correctly
about
half
or
six
of
those
properties
are
serviced
by
people
of
color
or
women
in
those
services.
Oh
that's
great.
That's.
H
D
So,
just
just
on
that
quick
alignment
is
that
do
I
want
to
say
I
want
to
highlight
some
of
the
work
you
did
to
help
create
that
pipeline
at
the
end,
II
and
wondering
if
that
could
be
replicated
over
at
BPD
a
I
do
recall.
When
I
was
at
D&E,
you
had
gathered
small
contractors
of
color
to
help
orient
them
to
the
contracting
process
and
DND
to
make
sure
that
they
knew
when
the
thing
was
open
the
pipeline
and
how
to
apply
for
it,
I'm
hoping
that
is
continuing
and
then
maybe
Devon.
J
J
H
H
G
K
G
Well,
debt
of
all
Donald
contactors
also
is
licensee.
The
primary
relationship
is
on
the
property
management
side,
and
so
we're
certainly
trying
to
replicate
that
in
our
contracts
at
the
bottom
playing
develop
agency
for
any
property
management,
we
actually
share
some
contractors
that
we've
gotten
to
know
together,
which
is
great.
We
have
some
where
people
marry
own
businesses,
servicing
properties
in
similar
locations,
denied
deficiency
there
and
it's
growing
up
the
economy
and
then
there's
also
the
sort
of
the
real
estate
angle
I,
think
we're
committed
to
diversity.
G
Inclusion
there
as
well
as
you
know,
for
our
property
disposition
RFPs,
which
there's
a
result
in
ground
leases.
We
now
include
as
a
matter
of
policy
and
every
single
one
of
our
RFP
is
a
diversity,
inclusion,
selection
criteria
for
them,
we're
prioritizing
the
development
teams
and
the
ownership
teams
and
ultimately
the
tenant.
G
D
F
H
D
M
D
D
A
Yes,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
Donald,
seven
and
Tim
for
answering
our
questions.
I
am
I,
do
have
a
follow-up
in
regards
to
a
counselor
at
Helios
question
about
how
many
people
have
applied
versus
how
many
properties
we
have.
It
seems,
like
that's,
a
very
low
number
of
applicants,
considering
the
signs
of
the
times
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
could
help
me
understand
why
that
is
yeah.
G
And
it's
a
great
question:
I
can
see
why
it
comes
across
that
way.
I
think.
One
of
the
reasons
is
we
have
a
hundred
and
forty
two
different
leases.
Some
of
those
are
with
the
same
entities
right
so
that
well,
Verizon
has
I,
don't
want
to
say
eight
different
lease
agreements
for
different
property
infrastructure.
No
and
they're,
not
they're,
not
the
type
of
tenants.
That's
going
to
come
in
for
rent
relief
right
now,
right
versus
the
retail
tenants.
We
have
about
a
ballpark
forty
to
fifty
correct
and
commercial
leases.
G
Those
are
the
ones
that
I
think
when
you're
thinking
of
classic
landlord-tenant
relationship
that
that
those
are
ones
you
would
most
expect
to
come
in
for
relief
and
most
of
the
24
of
our
of
them
of
that
type.
Although
we
do
have
a
couple
of
ground
these
tenants
that
are
sort
of
sole
use,
crown
lieutenant's
they're,
like
an
industrial
business
that
only
manufactures
one
thing
and
that's
what
the
ground
means
to
score.
Those
couple
of
those
has
come
in
as
well
so
there's
when
I
when
I
say
the
number
142
it
cetera.
G
It's
that
fact
of
only
24
of
them
are
are
now
filling
out.
This
application
sound
seems
like
a
small
number,
but
it's
really
in
conveying
all
that
all
the
different
types
of
uses
of
BPD,
a
property
and
the
number
of
ground
leases
exhibit
it
was.
Something
would
generally
need
to
be
fairly
extraordinary
for
a
ground
lease
tenant
to
come
in
for
a
deferral
and
we
up,
but
we
are.
This
is
extraordinary
times
we
live
in,
and.
G
A
And
then
so
and
I
know,
we
talked
earlier
about
the
outreach
process
in
terms
of
how
the
information
was
disseminated
to
your
lease
ease.
If
you
will
it
was
it
was
it?
Was
it
an
intense
effort
because
I'm
just
curious
about
some
of
the
smaller
businesses
that
you
know
don't
have
you're,
not
sure
like
Verizon,
you
know
I'm
just
wondering
like
effort
that
was
made
to
help
these
smaller
hyper
local
businesses
Thank.
G
You
counsel
and
thank
you
for
asking
the
question
that
way:
I
think
that
it'll
be
easier
to
answer,
be
we
have
a
staff
of
three
that
are
on
the
EPA
that
are
dedicated
entirely
to
leasing
and
two
of
those
staff.
Members
are
dedicated
to
the
small
businesses
and
direct
commercial
tenants.
They
have
intimate
relationships
with
every
single
one
of
them,
and
so
they
they're
talking
to
them.
They
sent
them
the
application
they're
asking
how
things
are
going
on.
G
How
are
things
going,
they're,
calling
them
on
a
regular
basis,
anyways,
even
when
they're,
not
Cobin,
19
isn't
happening
so
I
feel
very
confident
that
for
those
tenants
we
have
that
connection
and
that
those
if
you're,
asking
about
the
small
businesses
I,
feel
very
confident
the
small
businesses
that
are
tenants
of
EPA
property
release.
Direct
commercial
tenants
are
getting
that
information
and
then
they
ground
these
tenants.
It's
a
little.
G
It's
been
a
little
bit
less
proactive
and
more
than
coming
to
us,
because
that's
how
the
nature
of
our
relationship
and
as
this
month
on
unfolds
and
we
get
better
information
about
who's
paying
rent
who
has
in
any
way
better
mechanism
for
reaching
out
to
them
as
they.
If
they
become
late
in
their
payments,
then
we'll
have
a
more
direct
conversation,
but
there
isn't
correct
for.
G
A
So
this
would
be
the
last
question
because
I
know
that
the
chairs
keeping
us
on
track
here
but
I'm
just
curious.
What
would
you
say-
and
this
is
probably
because
I
haven't
asked
much-
you
know
a
lot
of
questions
to
the
other
folks.
It's
all
been
you,
but
this
is
something
that
all
anyone
of
you
all
can
answer
I'm
curious
about.
What
have
you
learned.
A
As
it
deals
to
what
we
can
do,
moving
forward
post,
COBIT
19
to
help
our
most
to
help
really
small
businesses
thrive
in
the
city
of
Boston,
I
mean
cuz,
I've,
seen
I
mean
the
plants
and
all
the
work
that
we're
doing
really.
Signaled
me
that
post
Kovac
19
we're
building
some
sort
of
infrastructure
where
we're
laying
the
foundation
for
really
supporting
smaller
mom-and-pop
shops.
A
G
Think
it
will
help
us.
Those
are
the
one-on-one
relationship
like
I
mentioned.
There
are
at
least
thing
agents
have
pretty
good
relationships
with
our
small
businesses,
but
I
think
as
we
get
to
know
them
more,
even
more
intimately.
Well,
through
this
crisis,
you
won't
understand
what
their
needs
are
and
what
we
can
do
to
support
them
going
forward
and
I
certainly
invite
your
help
with
them.
How
to
do
that?
Better
money
get
Donnell
chance
for
rapid
luck
and.
J
I
would
say
what
we've
learned
is.
We
need
to
continue
the
manner
in
which
we
engage
and
work
with
our
contractors.
You
know
our
our
reach.
You
know
really
starch
boots
on
the
ground
for
us,
so
we
have
to
establish
a
rope
that
will
allow
that
small
entity
to
feel
comfortable
enough
to
believe
that
they
can
be
awarded
a
contract
and
with
the
city,
and
so
once
we
get
them
through
a
bid
process
of
responding
to
something
like
that.
J
There's
a
level
of
trust
and,
as
I
said
earlier,
our
contractors
reached
out
to
us
on
almost
any
and
everything.
But
again
this
is
the
small
contractor
side.
The
developer
side
is
a
little
different
to
Dan's
point
earlier,
but
I
think
that
we're
learning
as
we
go
somewhere
week
to
week,
but
we're
also
finding
out
a
little
bit
more
relative
to
demands
I'm.
Looking
forward
to
my
call
next
week
by
contractors
and
I
put
it
to
my
senior
property
managers.
J
J
D
You
counselor
here
counselor
clarity
thank.
D
N
N
My
only
I'm
learning
a
lot
about
my
listening
in
the
one
question
I
had
was
I
I'd
like
to
understand
more
about
the
real
estate
portfolio
of
the
BPD,
a
you
say:
you
have
a
hundred
and
forty
two
ten
answers.
That's
something
that
we
can
access
online
and
check
out
what
what
sort
of
businesses
are
your
tenants
and
have
a
better
understanding
of
that
side
of
your
organization?
N
G
Online,
we
have
a
20-19
real
estate
report
that
speaks
to
many
of
our
tenants
in
the
sort
of
hood
and
comprehensive
picture.
What
we
accomplished
last
year,
so
that
might
be
a
helpful
resource.
We
don't.
We
do
not
publish
a
rent
roll
that
says
who
every
tenant
is
but
happy
to
share
information
with
you.
That's
something
you'd
like
to
again.
N
Businesses
that
you,
that
are
your
tenants
apart
from
that
you
know,
you're
talking
about
snow
removal,
businesses,
those
folks
had
a
rough
winter.
We
didn't
have
any
snow,
so
we're
I'm,
sure
they're
in
a
tight
spot,
but
I
appreciate
your
efforts
to
try
and
and
and
support
them
at
this
difficult
time,
and
apart
from
that,
I
have
no
other
questions
at
this
time.
Thank
you.
E
You,
madam
chair
and
good
afternoon,
everyone
again
and
Devin
and
I
had
talked
about
this
early
in
the
call
or
on
the
in
the
hearing,
with
respect
to
companies
or
individuals
that
haven't
missed
the
beat
and
in
some
instances
maybe
even
have
a
situation
enhanced
given
what's
going
on,
but
clearly
there
are
a
lot
of
folks
that
and
a
lot
of
companies
that
are
struggling,
I
guess
to
dawn
on
them
to
do.
We
have
we
giving
any
thought
to
sort
of
a
means
or
an
ability
to
pay
tests.
E
I
know
there
are
folks
that
do
have
the
ability
to
pay
in
and
again
haven't
missed
a
beat
and
I
think
that
they
should
and
that's
gonna
help
us
in
the
long
run.
It's
gonna
help
get
our
economy
back.
It's
gonna
give
our
lame
lending
institutions.
It's
gonna,
give
our
insurance
companies
and
even
our
city
the
ability
to
do
more
for
those
that
need
it
more.
E
If
there
are
folks
that
are
in
line
to
skip
our
rent
payments,
get
the
mortgage
payment
when
they
really
when
they
really
don't
need
to
it's
kind
of
hard
everybody
else,
I,
don't
know
what.
If
any
thought
is
being
given
policy
wise,
whether
it's
the
VPD
a
whether
it's
DND
or
with
donald
dealing
with
the
contractors
you're
dealing
with,
but
I
really
think
that
we
ought
to
give
some
thought
to
that
that
clearly
we
understand
that
people
are
struggling
and
companies
are
hurting
and
we
need
to
do
whatever.
We
need
to
do
to
help
them.
E
But
there
are
also
folks
in
companies
that
are
not
hurting,
but
you'll
see
they'll
try
to
get
in
line
to
maybe
take
advantage
of
a
situation
and
get
some
rent
relief
or
some
mortgage
relief.
You
know
and
I
don't
think
that
that's
fair
and
I
think
we
need
to
be
cognizant
of
that
and
I
think
that
it's
detrimental
to
us
having
the
ability
to
do
more
for
those
that
really
need
it.
E
So
I'd
love
to
get
your
thoughts
on
what
a
means
test
or
an
ability
to
pay
tests
as
just
sort
of
looking
at
whether
you're,
looking
at
the
entire
portfolio
of
city-owned
properties,
whether
you're
looking
at
the
portfolio
of
all
of
our
tenants
and
in
kind
of
taking
a
deeper
dive
just
to
see
how
how
this,
how
this
public
health
crisis
is
impacting
them
individually,
as
well
as
respectfully
with
those
companies.
I
think
that
some
thought
has
to
be
given
to
that.
It
can't
be.
We
just
can't
be
stroking
checks
to
everybody.
E
D
D
J
Thank
You,
counselor
I
think
for
us
again
going
back
to
you,
know
small
number
of
folks.
We
want
to
provide
them
with.
You
know,
fair
level
of
relief
that
we
can
and
I
mentioned
this
earlier.
Is
that
there's
a
liability
at
stake
here
for
us
when
it
comes
to
the
use
of
our
you
know
vacant
land
parcels,
and
so
you
know
we
can
defer.
J
J
I
have
a
call
next
week
with
some
of
our
contractors
is
really
getting
back
to
where
they're
at
and
identifying
some
of
the
needs
and
hearing
it
directly
from
them
and
and
just
kind
of
put
it
out
there
and
figure
out
a
way
in
which
we
can
continue
a
level
of
support
again
I
mentioned
this
earlier.
Is
that
this
moment
of
you
drop
a
driver
for
us?
It
is
very
impress
Ben
and
you
to
support
in
any
manner
in
which
we
can.
G
And
counselor
clarity,
I
just
from
the
BPA
perspective,
could
not
agree
with
you
more
that
way.
That
is
exactly
the
the
premise
of
our
rent
application
program.
And/Or,
the
application
was
sent
out
because
we
do
want
it
to
be
memes,
tested
and
I
think
we're
inclined
to
say
no
to
multinational
corporations
that
are
well
funded
so
that
we
can
say
yes
to
mom-and-pop
little
small
businesses
that
are
a
core
part
of
Boston's
economy.
M
You
so
much
madam
chair
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
on
the
same
line
of
questioning,
because
it's
a
repeated
theme
that
there
are
those
who
are
gonna
sneak
in
and
get
in,
isn't
the
rental
relief
currently
now
and
always
been
geared
toward
those
it's
a
needs-based?
Isn't
it
and
and
I
heard
I'm
not
sure
different
I'm.
D
M
You
so
I
heard
you
I
think
it
was
you
Devin
that
you
said
we're
inclined
to
lean
toward
small
business
and
not
the
big
corporation.
So
what
is
the
policy?
Is
it
an
inclination
or
is
it
a
requirement,
because
my
understanding
is
that
rental
relief
currently
and
in
the
co
vid,
so
pre,
kovat
and
now
in
the
kovat,
is
based
on
need?
But
I
keep
hearing
you
know
these
fears
about
people
sneaking
in
and
I
don't
want
us
to
get
caught
up
in
kind
of
the
welfare
queen
mentality
around
who's,
trying
to
jump
the
line.
M
M
G
M
Program
because
I
wanted
to
be
clear
that
we
are
trying
to
help
in
the
past
when
we've
offered
some
sort
of
relief
in
terms
of
a
rental
subsidy
for
commercial
and
now
during
Kovac.
The
purpose
is
around
me
to
really
support
the
small
local.
You
know
women-owned
people
of
color
own,
but
that's
small
entity,
not
the
corporation's
I
would
be
interested
just
to
follow
up.
H
G
M
G
M
D
You
so
we
have
councillor
Oh,
then
to
count
salute
for
the
worthy
I
guess
a
third
set
of
questions
just
be
mindful
of
time.
We
have
it's
about
a
quarter
to
three,
so
it
had
been
about
two
hours
so
far
in
the
hearing,
so
I'm
gonna
after
Aurelio
asks
his
counselor
boyo
asked
his
questions.
We're
gonna
really
try
and
limit
to
just
kind
of
final
statements.
Unless
you
have
a
burning
question
that
absolutely
can
be
answered
today,
so
councilor
Arroyo.
Thank.
B
B
G
All
the
data
is
accessible
and
with
all
certainty
all
business
call,
with
the
exception
of
the
open,
closed
question,
because
I
think
that
they
very
nuanced
a
question
for
each
business,
so
I
think
I,
because
what
is
open
or
closed
means
really
isn't
me,
but
old,
the
eye
of
the
the
business
right.
So
many
businesses,
maybe
that
you
know
many
of
many
of
the
tenants
or
commercial
offices
their
business
might
be
open,
but
their
office
is
closed
right,
so
I
think
I,
don't
it's
a
cheap!
We.
K
G
B
B
So
I,
just
just
to
make
this
briefer
just
one
so
I
appreciate
you
saying
that
you
think
the
other
ones
are
accessible
and
enable
to
be
done.
Do
you
know
when
we
could
get
the
data
on
how
many
of
those
142
are
women
or
people
color
owned,
or
how
many
of
those
folks
who
requested
those
forms
are
women
or
people
of
color
on
just
to
see
what
the
impact
is,
whether
it's
being
disparity
I.
G
Have
to
go
check
with
our
our
finance
team
and
just
make
sure
and
our
lease
administration
teams
just
okay
clinical,
that
was
drop
of
the
Hat.
Is
it
more
anecdotal
but
I?
Don't
I,
don't
anticipate
it
taking
very
long,
particularly
for
the
the
24
I
mean
I
could
just
run
through
the
list
and
tell
you,
but
I
want
to
assemble
it.
For
you,
no.
B
B
D
L
Yes,
sorry
I
know
I
seated
my
time
last
night,
but
I
just
had
one
quick
question
or
really
comment
for
you.
Devon,
which
is
just
I,
know
that,
and
it
was
some
of
my
colleagues
comments
about
some
of
the
larger
lease
holders
that
we
have
made
me.
Think
of
it,
which
is
just
to
say,
I,
know
that
in
the
history
of
the
BPD
a
we
have
some
ground
leases
that
we
negotiated
decades
ago.
L
That
might
not
be
the
most
advantageous
to
the
public
and
I
just
want
to
stress
that
it
seems
to
me
that,
although
I'm
all
about
making
allowances
for
our
small
businesses
and
our
local
folks
etc,
I
would
certainly
think
that
if,
in
this
process,
we
found
ourselves
with
ground
lessees
who
needed
accommodations,
who
were
the
holders
of
particularly
disadvantages
to
the
public
ground
leases.
That
I
would
hope
that
we
would
use
that
opportunity
to
renegotiate
those
ground
leases
and
not
just
offer
them
accommodations.
L
G
I
again
could
not
appreciate
the
spirit
of
all
that
question
from
the
councillors
again,
it
could
not
agree
more
on
that
one
either.
It's
the
extent
that
we
have
some
ground
leases
that
we
think
are
not
the
best
deals
in
today's
worlds
and
that
we
could
create
more
public
value
from
them,
and
that
and
this
crisis
presents
the
opportunity
to
negotiate
them
in
the
public
favor.
It
will
absolutely
use
that
opportunity
to
that
great.
L
I'm
glad
to
hear
that,
just
because
I
think
I
think,
unfortunately
I'm
quite
worried
about
sort
of
the
you
know
on
the
other
side
of
this
thing,
a
lot
of
kind
of
vulture
capitalist
tendencies
to
swoop
in
and
consolidate
on
all
kinds
of
fronts
right
now,
just
because
so
many
people
are
under
so
much
duress
and
I
really
think
that
we
need,
as
the
public
stewards
to
be
savvy
on
that
front.
Right
now,
absolutely.
D
A
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Yes,
again,
I'm
looking
forward
to
the
follow-up
in
terms
of
the
data,
certainly
the
breakdown
of
the
businesses,
the
different
rents
on
the
breakdown
by
MBE,
WBE,
etc,
etc.
I
appreciate
that
I
wonder
as
you
follow
the
economic
impact
and
whether
folks
are
able
to
pay
or
not
able
to
pay
overtime,
because
I
expect
things
to
get
worse.
M
You
know
as
I
understand
the
mission
and
I
have
it
up
here.
It
is
by
guiding
physical,
social
and
economic
change
in
Boston's
neighborhoods,
the
BPD
a
seeks
to
shape
a
more
prosperous,
resilient
and
vibrant
city
for
all.
For
me,
the
question
I
agree
with
that
statement,
but
meat
for
me,
the
question
is
I
would
like
to
see
the
staff
and
the
board
of
the
BPD
a
asking
themselves
every
single
day
and
on
every
single
project.
M
How
is
this
going
to
close
the
wealth
gap
in
Boston
and
I,
so
we're
never
going
to
get
to
is
resiliency
and
this
vibrancy
and
this
prosperity
for
all?
If
we
are
not
intentional
about
that
wealth
gap
and
there's
a
role
for
everyone
to
play
and
I
would
encourage
I
think
we're.
Never
gonna
live
out
that
mission
statement,
if
we're
not
intentional
with
that
question
as
part
of
our
thinking
on
an
everyday
basis,
and
that
takes
a
big
culture
change
around
where
the
board
is
and
where
you
know,
director
golden
is
and
everyone.
M
But
if
we
care
about
that,
if
we
believe
in
that
mission,
then
we've
got
to
be
a
lot
more
intentional
and
focused
about
how
we
do
that,
which
I
think
is
the
spirit
of
a
lot
of
the
questions
that
you
hear
from
me
and
my
colleagues
asking
for
data
around
the
MBE,
S&W
bees,
etc.
So
again,
I
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you
guys
are
doing
I.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
a
great
hearing
and
the
lead
sponsor
for
bringing
this
conversation
forward.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
E
You
manicure
I
want
to
thank
the
lead
sponsor
for
a
very
timely
hearing
and
obviously
you
for
hosting
it
as
well
as
Donald,
Timmy
and
Devin
for
joining,
as
well
as
my
colleagues
and
just
look
forward
to
working
together
on
this.
And
as
we
talked
earlier,
and
particularly
when
Devin
and
I
talked
in
the
beginning
of
the
hearing.
With
respect
to
the
those
those
ground
leases,
those
a
sort
of
unique
and
special
types
of
leases.
H
K
E
And
their
needs
so
that
we're
getting
these
resources
to
them,
particularly
if
they
need
them
so
I
appreciate
that
look
forward
to
working
with
you
and
and
and
keep
in
mind
that
again,
this
has
an
impact
that
everyone
the
same
way
right.
That's
it.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
whatever
resources
are
available,
they're
getting
to
people
that
need
them.
The
most
so
I
appreciate
that.
Thank
you,
Mary.
Oh
thank.
H
N
Don't
have
any
questions,
I,
really!
Thank
you
for
this
informative
hearing.
It's
a
very
important
issue.
I,
look
forward
to
getting
more
information
on
the
real
estate
portfolio
and
just
to
get
a
better
understanding
of
what
that
entails,
and
who's
in
and
and
just
the
expanse
of
the
extent
of
the
real
estate
portfolio
and
get
a
better
understanding.
But
thank
you
so
much
for
this.
This
hearing
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you
and
our
colleagues
to
ensure
that
so
as
many
people
as
possible
can
weather
this
storm
as
best
they
can.
C
Just
want
to
thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
accelerating
this
I
know.
We
did
this
really
shortly,
as
it
felt
like
a
very
urgent
issue
and
I'm
very
grateful
to
our
administration.
Colleagues
for
sharing
all
that
you're
doing,
and
you
know,
I
understand
how
much
we're
kind
of
building
the
plane
as
we're
flying
it
and
look,
as
stated
before,
be
a
partner
in
those
efforts,
and
thank
you,
of
course,
to
all
my
colleagues.
C
D
You
with
that
I
am
going
to
close
today's
hearing
two
minutes
before
three:
okay,
not
so
bad,
be
efficient.
We
do
have
a
lot
of
follow-up
and
I
do
trust
that
we
will
be
able
to
work
with
the
BPD
a-and
the
DND
to
get
the
answer
to
those
questions
will
probably
follow
up
with
an
email
with
those
questions.
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
here
today
and
with
that
I'm
going
to
close
out
the
hearing.
I
don't
have
a
gown
that
was
cool
as
councillor
box,
so
I
use
my
water
bottle
and
we're
good.