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From YouTube: Planning, Development & Transportation on April 18, 2023
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Planning, Development & Transportation - Docket #0343- Order for a hearing regarding calling for a moratorium on all development on all city owned land in district seven prior to the request for proposal process.
A
A
Good
morning,
everyone,
my
name,
is
Frank
Baker
Boston
city
council
for
district
3M,
the
chair
of
the
Boston
city
council
committee
on
Planning,
Development
and
transportation.
I
want
to
remind
you
that
this
is
public.
Hearing
being
recorded
on
broadcast,
live
on
Xfinity,
8,
rcn82
and
FiOS
964,
and
streamed
on
www.boston.city
no.boston.gov,
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Dash
console
Dash
TV.
A
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A
Thank
you,
Council
Fernandez
Anderson
for
sponsoring
this
important
matter
and
allowing
me
to
co-sponsor
with
you.
Development
is
an
equitable
and
fundamental
to
the
future
of
Boston,
especially
neighborhoods,
where
it
that
were
ran
Sat
by
redlining
and
gentrification
that
displaced
thousands
of
bostonians
over
the
last
few
decades.
With
the
vast
majority
of
these
residents
being
black,
the
need
for
more
affordable
housing
in
various
neighborhoods
is
abundant
in
West
Roxbury.
We
count
for
only
one
percent
of
all
affordable
housing
in
the
city.
Yet
we
have
the
highest
percentage
of
seniors.
A
We
need
additional
housing
opportunities
for
seniors
in
my
neighborhood
who
look
to
stay
in
place
that
we
we've
called
home
for
so
long
I.
Look
forward
to
reviewing
this
hammering
member
of
my
team
will
attend
today's
hearings.
Sincerely
Council
Kendall
Lara
with
that
we'll
go
to
opening
statements.
I'll
turn
it
over
to
the
lead,
sponsor
Council,
Fernando,
Sanders
and
the
floor
is
yours.
B
Boston
is
one
of
the
most
segregated
cities
in
the
country
which
can
be
attributed
to
the
discriminatory
practices
of
redlining
sacking
just
segregation
overall.
What
happened
with
the
BHA
in
the
80s,
which
ultimately
condensed
people
of
color
in
one
area
or
in
different
pockets
of
areas
and
Loans,
were
denied
to
those
areas
after
being
labeled
high-risk
areas,
by
denying
access
the
access
of
capital
Investments
by
lending
institutions?
This
process
Rob
the
residents
of
these
communities
of
Economic
and
housing
opportunities
that
would
help
to
bridge
the
wealth
gap
between
them.
B
Roxbury
development
plans
as
a
result
continue
to
be
decided
by
those
other
than
its
residents,
although
bpda
I
would
say,
does
a
heck
of
a
job,
a
good
job
with
Community
processes
and
an
engaging
community
and
listening
to
folks,
the
community.
Overall
we've
taken
surveys
we
have
organized
and
collectively
the
majority
of
the
community
feels
that
they
continue
to
not
be
heard.
Although
they
come
to
these
meetings
and
bpda
is
doing
a
lot
to
try
to
engage
or
give
access
to
those
who
have
been
historically
disenfranchi
disenfranchised.
B
The
community
nonetheless
still
does
not
have
proper
access.
These
meetings
are
coming
in
fast.
A
lot
of
the
meetings
are
held,
maybe
sometimes
twice
a
week
on
different
properties
to
and
at
one
point
I've
noticed
three
Pro
three
Parcels
all
in
one
week,
not
not
in
one
catchment
area
but
different
projects
or
different
proposals,
and
this,
of
course
creates
a
conflict.
B
B
B
But
again,
if
we
get
the
funding
to
do
this,
and
we
have
some
from
Community
benefits
to
be
able
to
hire
consultant,
we
will
go
into
a
community
engagement
process
to
be
able
to
develop
collectively
a
full
master
plan,
specifically
for
Roxbury,
because
that's
where
the
land
is
I've
said
a
lot
and
I'll
stop
there.
Mr
chair.
Thank
you
for
indulging
me,
but
I
hope
that
this
gives
sort
of
a
scope
of
or
an
understanding
that
our
intentions
are
not
to
stop
and
do
nothing.
B
Our
intentions
are
to
partner
with
you
to
create
a
true,
inclusive
and
transparent
process
that
will
actually
build
equity
that
will
actually
create
Pathways
to
home
ownership,
and
that
will
also
build
out
these
amenities
or
facilities
in
district
7
to
increase
our
quality
of
life.
Thank
you,
Mr,
chair,
thank.
C
A
lot
of
other
conversations,
so
I
appreciate
this
hearing
order,
but
also
as
an
at-large,
City
councilor
thinking
back
to
the
hearing
we
had
last
month
about
tiffs
and
diffs
with
D3
and
D7,
and
if
something
is
allowed
in
one
District,
what
does
that
mean
as
a
city
as
a
whole,
so
I'm
just
looking
forward
to
hearing
from
the
councilor
who
put
this
forward?
This
is
her
District.
C
What
her
thoughts
are
I
know
she
had
a
very
thoughtful
opening
statements
and
I
know
the
hearing
order
was,
you
know
very
detailed,
so
just
want
to
see
where
we
go
from
here
and
what
this
means
for
all
of
the
districts
and
where
other
and
I
know
a
majority
or
a
lot
I.
Don't
know
the
exact
percentage
are
in
D7.
C
But
what
are
we
going
to
do
with
others
and
what
what
supports
or
what
other
Sports
will
we
give
to
districts
or
neighborhoods
or
how
you
know
even
individual
homeowners
who
might
live
next
to
an
empty
lot?
Do
they
have
say
of
like
what
does
go
there
more
so
in
the
same
way,
we
do
you
know
a
Butters
meetings,
or
maybe
this
is
a
different
process.
So,
looking
forward
to
hearing
about
the
details
of
how
we
plan
on
going
forward
with
this,
thank
you
chair.
D
D
A
Thank
you
and
with
that
I
think
we'll
kind
of
mesh
both
boards
together,
so
we'll
go
from
left
to
right.
Opening
statement
go
right
into
you
guys
after
the
administration,
then
we'll
have
an
open
conversation
if
that's
okay
with
both
panels.
Okay,
thank
you.
So,
oh
we'll,
we'll
start
with
name
an
affiliation.
Please.
E
E
We
are
continuing
to
be
committed
to
affordable
housing
and
and
I.
Think
something
highlighted
very
clearly
in
the
notice
was
the
importance
of
affordable
for
sale
development
in
Roxbury.
We
are
very
much
in
favor
of
that.
I
want
to
talk
about
it.
A
little
bit
in
particular
I
enjoyed
enjoy.
It
may
not
be
the
perfect
word,
but
I
really
appreciated.
Reading
some
of
the
historical
references
in
the
in
the
hearing
notice.
E
E
In
you
know,
I
had
a
friend's
row
seat
to
it,
and
working
in
this
community,
as
I
have
for
a
long
time,
had
a
chance
to
see
it
as
well
and
hear
the
testimony
which
I
think
is
even
more
important
than
the
history
of
many
community
members
about
the
impact
of
it.
We're
in
all
one
thing,
I
can
also
say
about
Boston
That's
Unique
is
that
Boston
is
a
place
where
activism,
specifically
in
Roxbury
in
areas
nearby,
are
the
reasons
that
Boston
is
a
little
bit
different
than
other
places.
E
The
eventual
stoppage
of
the
plan
to
put
a
highway
through
the
middle
of
Roxbury,
which
became
the
orange
line
and
later
a
number
of
developments,
some
of
which
I've
been
involved
with,
are,
are
an
example
of
how
much
the
voice
of
bostonians
has
changed.
The
direction
of
urban
renewal
in
Boston
I'd
also
highlight
that
Madison
Park
CDC,
which
which
received
land
that
had
been
taken
for
that
purpose
and
turned
it
into
affordable
housing.
E
A
part
of
a
very
stable
and
great
community
near
Nubian
Square
today
was
was
an
outgrowth
of
that
activism
as
well,
and
so
in
thinking
about
that
I
think
we
need
to
put
ourselves
in
the
in
the
chair
and
some
of
the
people
I've
had
a
chance
to
speak
with,
and
the
people
who
give
testimony
next
were
there
alongside
or
even
participating
in
some
of
those
dialogues.
At
that
time,
the
argument
was
for
the
improvements
of
Transportation,
the
open
space
and
the
affordable
housing
that
was
developed
and
part
of
I.
Think
understanding.
E
The
legacy
of
that
time
is
both
recognizing
the
wrongs
that
were
done,
the
activism
that
led
to
a
significant
change
and
thinking
carefully
about
what
we
do
with
the
Legacy
that's
been
given
to
us
and
what
actions
we
take
in
the
present.
It's
my
view
that
the
lessons
of
the
past
call
for
more
and
different
action,
as
opposed
to
less
action.
I,
do
want
to
recognize
that
in
in
your
testimony,
Contour
Fernandez
Anderson,
you
talked
about
a
partnership
which
I
think
is
crucial
and
I
want
to
dwell
on
a
little
bit.
E
E
It
takes
so
much
momentum
to
cultivate
the
kind
of
investment
the
meaningful
investment
in
affordable
home
ownership,
open
space
Etc
that
any
kind
of
action
to
slow.
That
momentum
to
me
seems
like
the
wrong
direction,
especially
when
I
think
we
have
so
much
common
cause
with
respect
to
the
desire
and
need
to
create
wealth
through
home
ownership
in
in
Roxbury.
So
for
that
reason,
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
a
few
things.
E
We've
been
doing
recently
that
I
think
talk
about
where
we
have
common
cause
and
why
we
should
build
on
that
and
focus
our
efforts
on
more
affordable
for
sale.
Over
the
past
several
years,
we've
been
working
hard
with
the
community
to
transform
and
develop
vacant
Parcels
that
are
under
stewardship
into
properties
that
serve
the
public
good
we've
been
able
to
build
or
put
into
construction
678
units
of
housing
on
public
land
in
district
7.
E
Over
the
past
five
years,
we've
been
eager
to
make
sure
these
open
vacant
Parcels
are
used
at
parks,
Community,
Gardens,
Urban
farms
and
Wilds.
We've
also
transformed
over
400
000
square
feet
into
into
Open
Spaces
in
District
Seven,
and
have
six
open
space
projects
in
progress,
we're
determined
to
reimagine
our
vacant
Parcels
through
Community
Driven
planning
processes.
E
This
reimagining
has
and
will
include
opportunities
for
job
creation,
housing
creation
and
the
preservation
of
open
space
that
can
be
used
to
create
the
quality
of
life
counselor
that
you're
speaking
to
as
an
example,
we
launched
plan
Nubian
Square
in
2016.
provide
a
new
framework
for
development
and
guide
RFP
processes
for
nine
publicly
owned.
E
To
add
to
that,
we've
recently
completed
a
city-wide
land
audit
we've
got
159
Parcels
have
been
made
available
in
D7
over
the
last
five
years
of
the
unit
housing
units
in
the
pipeline,
40
percent
are
being
developed,
is
for
sale
of
which
75
percent
are
income
restricted.
This
is
directly
correlated
to
the
community's
request
for
more
homeownership
opportunities.
E
There's
six
Active
dispositions
to
facilitate
creation
of
Community
Gardens
and
preservation
of
open
space
and
urban
wild
we've
got
143
Parcels
in
D7
remaining
for
potential
disposition.
While
we
need
to
allow
community
process
to
guide
us
in
each
case,
we
should
be
using
our
experience
from
the
past
to
direct
our
action.
E
Today
in
January,
we
tend
to
be
designated
V3
to
a
partnership
of
my
city
at
peace
and
hym,
there's
going
to
be
besides
having
a
headquarters
for
the
Embrace
there's,
also
going
to
be
lab
space
and
residential,
significant
portion
of
which
is
going
to
be
affordable
for
sale
in
the
form
that
I
think
you've
called
for
both
here
and
in
your
notice
and
other
places.
One
of
the
reason
this
happened
and
I
want
to
be
highlight
this,
in
particular,
is,
is
the
process
we
use
to
get.
E
E
E
But
I
am
saying
that
I
think
what
I
took
away
from
my
experiences
working
with
him
was
that
we
need
to
be
focused
on
on
moving
forward
with
for
sale,
affordable
for
sale,
that
people
can
access
to
build
their
own
wealth
in
the
community
with
the
land
that
remains
and
that
we
should
be
making
sure
that
that's
part
of
the
way
we
pursue
development
in
Roxbury
and
D7
going
forward.
I,
certainly
Embrace.
E
That
I
would
like
to
and
like
to
make
sure
that's
what
we
bring
to
bear
in
all
the
developments
we
have,
but
I
do
think.
We
should
try
to
figure
out
how
to
do
what
we're
doing
best
and
accept
the
comments
and
voices
both
from
the
outside
and
the
ones
from
the
inside
to
make
sure
that
we
accomplish
that
over
the
coming
years,
and
with
that
I'd
like
to
ask
my
partner
in
college
Sheila
Dylan,
to
share
a
few
notes.
F
Good
morning,
good
morning,
it's
good
to
be
here
so
anyways
for
the
record.
My
name
is
Sheila
Dillon
and
I'm,
chief
of
housing
for
the
city
of
Boston
and
the
director
of
the
mayor's
office
of
Housing
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
inviting
me
to
testify
today.
I
do
apologize
for
being
remote,
I,
don't
like
being
remote
but
I'm
on
vacation
and
I'm,
not
in
Boston.
So
I'll
keep
my
remarks
brief,
but
I
did
want
to
say
that
I
have
read
order,
0343
with
interest.
F
I've
read
it
several
times,
and
I've
also
had
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
councilor
Anderson
on
both
the
five
percentage
of
affordable
housing
in
Roxbury
and
the
need
for
additional
homeownership
opportunities,
both
in
D7
and
throughout
the
city.
The
mayor's
office
of
housing
agrees
with
a
counselor
that
affordable
and
mixed
income.
Housing
needs
to
be
built
across
the
city
in
every
neighborhood
and
we
are
working
hard
to
ensure
that
this
happens
and
our
last
funding
round.
F
F
We
are
currently
working
with
neighborhoods
elected
officials
and
households
seeking
to
buy
in
Boston
to
make
this
land
available
for
this
purpose
we're
making
a
significant
amount
of
our
arpa
funding
available
to
support
the
creation
of
this
type
of
development,
but
also
making
home
ownership
more
obtainable
by
providing
larger
down
payments
and
lower
interest
rates
to
help
those
interested
in
buying
existing
homes
in
the
market.
Both
approaches
we
feel,
are
needed
before
I
conclude
my
remarks.
F
The
resource
has
been
broken
out
by
land
that
is
currently
under
agreement,
land
that
is
currently
in
or
recently
completed,
a
community
process
and
land
that
we
think
has
some
utility
for
either
open
space,
commercial
development
or
residential
development,
but
has
not
begun
a
formal
Community
process
yet
and
I
would
agree
with
Arthur.
It
is
always
our
practice
to
work
closely
with
neighborhoods
and
Community
leaders
to
discuss
land
that
we
think
is
suitable
for
development
or
open
space.
F
We
work
with
communities
to
incorporate
their
Vision
into
our
rfps
and
we
very
much
listen
to
their
opinions
during
the
selection
process,
so
without
further
Ado.
Currently,
a
mayor's
office
of
housing
owns
200.
As
of
this
morning,
248
Parcels
of
land
in
D7
55
of
these
Parcels
are
currently
under
agreement
with
many
of
them
nearing
a
sale
in
preparation
for
this
hearing.
I
reviewed
that
list
in
detail.
F
24
Parcels
will
be
used
for
home
ownership
development.
Eight
Parcels
will
be
used
for
commercial
and
residential
some
home
ownership.
Some
rental,
eight
Parcels
will
be
used
for
open
space
such
as
Gardens
food,
forests
or
Recreation.
Seven
Parcels
will
be
used
for
a
co-op
development
in
Highland
Park
and
one
parse
will
be
used
for
rental
development.
Only
one
parse
will
be
sold
to
in
a
butter.
F
46
Parcels
are
currently
in
an
active
Community
process
or
have
completed
the
community
process
and
an
RFP
is
being
drafted.
I've
reviewed
these
Parcels
as
well
25
Parcels
will
be
used
as
open
space.
Many
of
those
are
concentrated
on
on
one
particular
street
they're,
very
small
Parcels.
Nine
Parcels
will
be
used
for
mixed
use
development.
Both
commercial
and
residential,
eight
Parcels
will
be
used
for
home
ownership.
F
E
A
H
President
Flynn
chairman
Baker
counselor
Murray
and
councilor
Fernandez
Anderson.
Thank
you
very
much
for
this
opportunity
to
share
with
you
thoughts
and
ideas,
as
it
relates
to
a
very
critical
part
of
our
lives.
My
name
is
Louis
a
Lisa
member
of
the
D7
advisory
Council
and
president
of
the
Galveston
Trident
neighborhood
association,
we've
been
around
for
44
years,
doing
community
and
Civic
work.
I
live
at
68
secret
Street
in
Roxbury
and
I
am
a
proud
member
of
the
community
Organization
for
United,
Rockford,
United,
neighbors
and
other
groups.
H
Thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
consider
this
very
important
and
definitive
issue
that
is
quickly
impacting
the
quality
of
life
for
the
residents
and
families
within
the
district,
seven
and
most
of
the
black
and
brown
community
in
Boston.
While
district
7
is
not
all
of
Boston's
black
and
brown
Community,
it
has,
more
than
a
century,
been
the
resting
place
with
those
displaced
from
their
original
homes
and
Beacon
Hill
in
the
northern.
H
Until
recently,
the
primary
place
of
relocation
with
those
new
immigrants
and
and
immigrants
and
in
migrants
that
have
decided
to
call
Boston
and
D7
their
home,
like
many
other
areas
of
Boston
D7,
has
undergone
a
tremendous
change
in
use
regarding
housing
and
business
growth
and
development,
but
like
no
other
place
in
Boston,
d7's
growth
and
so-called
development
has,
for
the
most
part,
not
been
for
the
benefit
and
wealth
increase
for
the
majority
of
residents
that
live
and
reside.
Within.
H
Much
of
the
expansion
and
development
by
universities,
hospitals,
Banks,
private
wealth
institutions
and
business
institutions
have
been
of
economic
and
social
growth
and
benefit
for
those
that
work
there,
but
little
for
those
that
live
there.
Those
businesses
and
institutions
have
brought
great
wealth
and
prosperity
to
the
to
Boston
and
greater
Boston
area,
but
little
and
very
little
has
strengthened
and
or
motivated,
Positive
Growth
or
opportunity
for
those
who
call
D7
their
home
moratorium.
What
is
a
moratorium?
It
is
suspension.
Hall
freeze
pause,
the
synonyms
continue,
but
none
of
them
allude
to
permanency
or
indefinite
ending.
H
That
is
what,
logically
and
Weasley
can
be
those
that
seek
to
understand
the
circumstances
that
impacts
the
quality
of
their
lives
in
order
to
get
a
better
understanding.
What
are
the
variables
and
issues
affecting
their
existence?
What
is
happening
that
is
driving
change
or
influencing
existence
essence
of
one's
existence
it
is,
it
is
to
inform
direct
and
correct
actions
and
changes
as
all
actions
and
change
does
not
necessarily
promote
Positive
Growth.
H
Nothing
we
are
proposing
in
this
moratorium
will
impact
or
impose
on
any
other
area
of
the
city.
In
fact,
it
may
be
used
as
a
model
to
inform
and
encourage
other
areas
to
look
at
what
is
going
on
in
their
neighborhoods
as
Maybe
redirect
some
of
their
activities,
so
they
have
betterment
for
themselves.
In
closing,
I
ask
that
each
of
you
put
your
personal
preferences
aside
and
look
collectively.
H
You
have
to
request
that
it's
coming
from
G7
a
community
that
has
been
under
siege
for
far
too
long,
and
that
is
now
asking
those
who
are
able
to
give
them
the
time
and
support
to
as
they
say,
get
their
act
together.
Do
so
in
order
that
we
can
move
forward
and
are
more
productive
and
Progressive
Community
as
an
equitable
part
of
the
city
of
Boston?
Thank
you.
I
I
I
My
name
is
Rod
Singleton
I
live
on
44,
Cedar,
Street
and
Roxbury.
It's
a
part
of
the
city.
That's
folks
call
Highland,
Park
I'm,
also
a
member
of
the
Highland
Park
steering
committee.
So
in
that
capacity
we
do
a
lot
of
neighborhood
work
and
and
we're
supporting
Council
Fernandez
on
this
current
effort
for
moratorium.
I
So
a
little
bit
about
myself,
so
I've
lived
in
Roxbury
my
entire
life.
Next
Monday
will
be
62
years
here
in
here
in
Roxbury,
so
I
remember
what
the
bra
was
like
in
the
early
days.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
our
family
lived
on
Monroe
Street
19
through
21
back
in
the
day,
early
60s,
and
we
we
own
that
house
since
the
20s
and
and
a
little
little
background
information
on
on
my
family.
I
So
we
fled
Jim,
Crow
South
Carolina
in
the
20s,
and
so
my
great
uncle
ended
up
in
Roxbury
at
that
house
at
address
and
that's
the
house
that
I
was
born
and
raised
in
so
the
bra
I
guess
was
kind
of
early
in
there.
In
their
day,
they
took
the
house
in
the
60s
for
urban
renewal
and
essentially,
family
didn't
have
a
place
to
live,
so
we
found
another
place
to
live
in
the
area.
I
I
So
you
know
urban
renewal
essentially
has
a
bad
taste
in
every
respect
in
my
family,
so
the
idea
of
wealth
building
through
home
ownership
was
sort
of
snatched
away
in
the
early
60s,
and
you
know
redlining
in
the
in,
in
the
like,
prevented
any
kind
of
Improvement
of
your
condition.
If
you
will
so
just
let
that
sink
in
for
a
little
bit,
maybe
the
poster
child
of
what
we're
all
talking
about.
I
You
know
the
voice
that
we
have
and
the
input
that
we
can,
that
we
can,
you
know,
provide
to
this
process.
If
you
will,
will
you
know
we
look
at
you
know,
will
there
be
questions
later
author
and
I'm
I'm
happy
to
engage
in
one
of
each
and
every
one
of
them?
It's
you
as
well
Sheila.
So
so,
how
are
we
with
the
current
you
know,
process
for
either
disposing
of
lots
and
creation
of
homes
and
the
like?
How
is
that
going
to
be
different,
any
different
than
urban
renewal?
I
J
Good
morning
to
the
chair
and
the
committee
members
director
Jemison
and
director
Dylan,
my
name
is
Diane.
Wilkerson
I
also
want
to
say
good
morning
to
Devin
Quirk
as
well
have
had
the
pleasure
of
working
with
all
of
them.
I
am
a
resident
of
Roxbury
in
September
will
be
a
49-year
resident
of
the
city
of
Boston
having
come
here
like
so
many
for
education,
but
from
Western,
Mass
and
I
want
to
Echo
what
Mr
Singleton
said
about
the
story,
because
our
stories
are
so
similar.
J
J
My
father
was
the
baby
of
14
and
was
brought
here
by
my
two
uncles
I'm,
going
to
spare
the
story
just
to
say
that
if
you
read
the
the
the
case
on
Wilkerson
versus
the
state
of
Arkansas,
my
two
uncles,
who
both
were
responsible
for
the
first
jury
in
the
state
of
Arkansas
that
had
blacks
and
there
was
a
whole
article
about
it.
Their
case
was
National
and
I'm
going
to
leave
it
as
that.
J
But
just
say
this
is
all
about
running
Jim
Crow
and
the
violence
of
the
South,
but
I,
but
I
could
not
imagine
living
anywhere
else
than
Roxbury.
I
am
a
member
of
D7
just
absolutely
proud
and
delighted
to
be
involved
with
the
effort
that
our
city
councilor,
Fernandez
Anderson,
has
created
for
us
to
have
the
voice,
which
is
really
what
we're
talking
about
today.
J
When
government
is
reticent
or
opposed
to
process
and
have
been
allowing
time
for
communities
to
engage.
We
all
should
be
concerned,
there's
been
so
much
I,
think,
horror
or
and
aghast
about
the
idea
of
a
moratorium.
Maybe
it's
the
word.
The
fact
is,
the
city
has
done
them
in
the
past.
They've
had
moratoriums
in
in
certain
in
neighborhoods
fat
sub
neighborhood
moratorium
in
our
own
neighborhood
of
Roxbury
to
allow
the
community
an
opportunity
to
be
involved
in
the
planning
on
what
you
want
to
do
with
our
property.
J
J
We
think
this
is
our
first
and
last
shot.
There
is
lots
of
resources
and
monies
available
on
the
state
level,
on
the
federal
level
and
even
on
the
city
level.
We
keep
talking
about
this
arpa
money,
I'm
real
clear
about
what
that
arpa
money
was
supposed
to
be
used
for
I
heard
the
president
of
the
United
States
say
so
out
of
his
mouth,
that
it
was
to
be
targeted
to
support
the
recovery
from
the
communities
that
suffered
the
most
from
covet.
J
That
would
be
black
and
Latino
communities
in
Boston
and
we've
seen
it
going
to
every
neighborhood
in
the
city,
and
so
our
position
is,
if
we're
going
to
do
this-
and
this
is
really
our
last
shot
and
you're
going
to
give
away
all
the
land
that
then
we
wanted
hey,
wait
a
minute.
Let
us
have
some
say
on
what
you
do
with
that
land.
That's
all
all
it
is
about
it's
not
to
stop
it
forever.
It
is
to
truly
engage
in
a
process
that
allows
us
to
direct
wealth
development.
J
We've
been
going
through
that
list,
I
mean
it's
a
perfect
example
of
why
something
on
the
order
of
what
the
council
is
requesting
is
so
important
on
tomorrow,
I
will
be
visiting
the
neighborhood
around
Wakulla
Street
on
the
site
of
the
garden.
That
won
the
the
prize
for
the
second
best
Garden
in
the
city,
neighborhood
Garden.
It's
on
the
list
to
be
developed
for
housing,
no
conversation
like
so
for
one
year,
you're
the
best
Garden
right
and
then
now
we're
gonna.
We
wanted.
J
We
wanted
to
put
a
house
on
it
and
maybe,
in
the
end,
that's
it,
but
who
gets
to
the
side
that
who
gets
to
engage
and
participate?
In
that
conversation,
you
know,
wealth
development
has
been
the
goal
for
so
long
and
I
always
have
to
ask
that
question
for
who,
when
I,
when
I
was
on
the
the
the
virtual
meeting
for
the
first
virtual
meeting
for
water
and
sewer,
that
was
also
stated.
This
was
the
goal:
the
city's
goal,
the
wealth,
development,
wealth
creation
and
I'm
saying
for
who
we
always
create
wealth.
J
We
just
can't
figure
out,
seem
to
have
figured
out
a
way
to
create
it
for
the
people
who
live
here
and
that's
the
piece
that
I
think
for
no
other
reason.
The
city
should
welcome
the
participation
because
we
have
been
getting
this
wrong
you
all.
You
know
that
the
wealth
status
of
the
majority
of
black
and
Latino
residents
in
Roxbury
has
not
changed
a
bit
for
all
the
money
that
we've
spent
for
all
the
money.
J
We're
going
to
spend,
there's
some
incredible
ideas
about
what
we
should
be
doing
and
we
just
want
to
have
an
opportunity
to
engage
and
participate
in
that
discussion,
and
we
are
very
proud
to
stand
with
our
counselor
to
make
sure
that
we
do
that
and
hope
that
that
is
something
that
you
could
see.
You
know.
Participation
by
Community
should
never
be
seen
as
a
burden
or
as
a
negative,
because
there
are
some
things
that
I
think
we
could
suggest
to
you.
J
A
A
Mentioned
159.
so
I'm
looking
to
see
if
they're
separate
so
total
is
407
Lots
there
would
that
be
right,
Arthur!
Okay,
there
is
some
overlap:
okay,
so
it's
around
400
or
380.
Sheila.
What's
the
cost?
What's
the
cost
now
to
to
a
non-profit,
a
non-government
NGO
for
a
square
foot
of
square
foot
of
building?
Now
what
are
you
hearing.
F
F
F
A
A
E
A
E
B
F
Sure
so
there
was,
there
have
been
some
designations
made
with
participating
very
closely
with
the
Highland
Park
neighborhood.
Some
of
those
projects
have
not
Advanced
as
as
quickly
as
we
all
would
have
liked
they're
arranging
their
financing.
The
construction
costs
have
gone
up
Etc,
so
there's
there
is
some
parcels
that
have
been
designated.
F
There
are
others
that
we
still
have
more
conversation
and
work
to
do
in
Highland,
Park
with
the
PRC
and
other
interested
neighborhood
groups,
and
I
mentioned
that
a
lot
of
the
remaining
Parcels
that
moh
have
are
in
the
Highland
Park
neighborhood.
We
just
haven't
and
I
think
that
I
know
the
Highland
Park
neighborhood
was
interested
in
seeing
some
of
their
earlier
designations
start
construction,
as
we
were
before
we
started
new
conversations
about
the
remaining
parcels.
F
So
there,
the
mayor's
office
of
housing
has
been
working
with
the
project
Review
Committee
for
years
and
years
and
years,
and
we
look
at
all.
We've
looked
at
historically,
we've
looked
at
all
the
land
in
Highland
Park
we've
worked
with
the
PRC
on
on
figuring
out
what
should
be
open.
Space
What
should
be
a
butter
Lots.
What
should
be
Parcels
for
new
residential
development.
I'd
say
most
of
it
has
been
home
ownership
and
we've
been
working
with
the
PRC
to
design
rfps
and
select
Developers.
B
I
B
You
so
Chief
the
idea
of
community
involved
the
community-led
processes
to
look
at
land
to
actually
go
through
inventory,
to
aggregate
them
by
what
what
type
of
development
or
open
space
or
any
type
of
creation
of
place,
making
or
place
keeping
could
go
on
the
parcel.
It's
not
new.
It's
something
you've
been
doing
with
specifically
just
Highland
Park
in
Roxbury.
F
I
I
would
say,
we've
been
doing
this
in
other
neighborhoods
too
Highland
Park
certainly
was
a
very
comprehensive
look
and
it
was
a
relationship
that
you
know,
I've,
sort
of
respected
and
treasured
for
many
many
years,
I
would
say
that
we've
done
similar
processes
in
Garrison
Trotter,
looking
at
what
size
would
be
best
for
for
open
space
and
what
what
sites
would
be
best
for
home
ownership
and
there's
other
neighborhoods
too.
But
those
two
come
to
mind,
maybe
because
Lewis
and
Rodney
are
both
there.
B
And
so
this
process
continues
to
PRC,
where
land
in
Highland
Park
in
Roxbury,
specifically
Highland
Park,
though,
has
a
say
over
what
happens
with
the
parcels
in
Highland
Park,
but
in
the
rest
of
Roxbury,
there's
another
civic
association
or
Co-op
that
or
land
trust
that
has
looked
at
a
few
Parcels
to
develop,
but
the
rest
of
Roxbury
is
not
included
in
this
process.
This.
This
goes
in
the
PRC
specifically
for
Highland
Park,
though.
F
I
well
I
I.
Think
I
can
confidently
say
that
I
can't
think
of
an
RFP
that
we
have
developed
and
put
out,
for
you
know
for
looking
for
either
a
non-profit
to
own
Gardens
or
developers
to
develop
housing
or
commercial
space.
Without
extensive
input
from
the
surrounding
Community
neighborhood
association,
I'd
be
hard-pressed
to
think
of
one
I'm
I.
There
may
be
one
but
I
I
I
I
can't
nothing
comes
to
mind.
Counselor
we're
we're
always
in
consult
with
with
the
neighborhood
in
which
we're
working.
B
And-
and
chief
I
would
like
to
thank
you
for
your
openness
to
be
able
to
work
with
Civic
associations
and
the
advisory
Council.
As
you
know,
the
advisory
council
is
made
up
of
about
42
Civic
associations
and
another
15
non-profit
organizations
and
of
those
organizations.
They
have
a
collective
sort
of
idea
that
they
are
not,
as
included
as
Highland,
Park
and
so
I
guess
that
leaves
for
people
to
question.
F
I
I
think
there
there's
one
thing:
you're
saying
that
really
does
resonate
I
think
often
we
will
go
into
working
with
a
neighborhood
and
say
this
is
a
fabulous
parcel
or
Parcels
for
x,
or
you
know,
a
a
land
trust
will
come
forward
and
say
we're
really
looking
for
a
new
farm
and
we
we'd
love
to
talk
about
this
particular
parcel.
What
I
think
we
could
you
know
certainly
do
more
of
is
working
with
various
neighborhood
associations
and
saying-
and
we
do
this-
we've
done
this
in
DS
and
I
most
most
recently.
F
B
B
There
was
no
money
to
be
able
to
fund
an
effort
like
this,
so
we've
put
together
plans
and
we'd
like
it
to
make
it
a
community
master
plan,
one
that
is
inclusive,
one
that
actually
offers
racial
Equity
or
that
offers
Pathways
to
homeownership
or
opportunities
for
investment
for
small
black
and
brown
developers
in
in
Roxbury
and
I.
Think
that
to
do
that
intentionally,
we
look
at
the
land.
As
you
say,
all
of
the
parcels
and
you
divvy
up,
which
list
is
what
this
is
commercial.
This
is
just
for
affordable
homeownership.
This
is
for
open
space.
B
This
could
be,
for
example,
Roxbury
doesn't
have
a
theater
Roxbury
doesn't
have
any
game
parks
for
youth.
Roxbury
doesn't
have
anything
for
youth
with
disabilities
to
go
like
a
sensory
garden.
Roxbury
doesn't
have
a
lot.
The
list
goes
on
and
on
and
on
Roxbury
only
shares
about
three
of
the
full
liquor
licenses.
Roxbury
doesn't
have
a
lot,
and
in
order
to
do
that
intentionally,
I'm
asking
that
the
city
and
no
it's
not
legally
binding,
as
I
mentioned
the
more
tour
we're
not
saying
this
is
not
an
ordinance.
B
This
is
a
hearing
order
asking
for
a
conversation
to
say.
Look,
let's
just
be
really
honest.
This
is
the
list.
This
is
what's
available.
You
guys
have
a
plan.
We
know
you
do.
The
community
has
a
plan.
We
went
ahead
and
worked
for
an
entire
year
because
we
knew
that
the
city
was
working
on
a
plan.
You
hired
someone.
You
were
going
to
do
a
plan.
We
said
how
about
if
we
come
up
with
the
Miss
Fernandez
right
is
her
name
chief,
sorry
right,
you
no
I'm,
sorry
I'm,
pointing
to
rbpda.
Oh.
F
E
F
G
B
B
Sure,
but
that
meant
that
you
have
a
plan,
and
so,
if
you
have
some
sort
of
plan
or
overarching
plan
or
not
just
for
Parcels,
we
that
sent
the
message
and
I'm
not
saying
anything.
Wrong
am
I
I'm,
saying
you.
There
was
a
designer
hired
urban
planning
designer
hired
and
that
sent
a
message
to
Roxbury
that
there
was
a
plan
or
there
was
there
will
be
a
plan
and
so
Roxbury
then
organized
and
said:
let's
put
together
a
plan
too,
all
I'm
saying
is
for
the
moratorium.
B
If
you
say
we
can't
slow
it
down
and
if
you
can't,
even
if
you,
if
you
can't,
if
you
say
if
we
quantify
it,
will
there'll
be
a
loss
and
we
can't
make
create
momentum
from
slowing
it
down.
We're
saying,
while
you
are
writing
the
rfes
that
you
include
us
in
the
process,
because
the
community
you
want
to
be
inclusive
of
the
community
voice,
the
community
has
a
plan
and
I've
done
the
work
over
time
to
bring
you
that
level
of
organized
system,
and
so
can
we
work
together.
And
what
would
that
look
like?
G
And
be
happy
to
jump
in
Chief,
so
first
I
want
to.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Counselor
for
your
work
with
Northeastern
and
bringing
together
many
partners
and
our
colleague
Jonathan
short,
our
colleague,
Rebecca
Hansen's.
Here
is
a
real
estate
director,
but
the
two
of
them
have
very
closely
involved
in
working
with
your
office
and
many
community
members
on
helping
do
the
city-wide
visioning
for
Activation
of
public
property,
and
thank
you
for
your
leadership
on
that.
We're
very
excited
to
move
it
forward.
G
I
think
I
just
wanted
to
jump
in
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
clarity
on
some
of
the
languages
being
used.
I
think
we're
all
working
from
the
same
set
of
facts,
but
just
wanted
to
make
sure
we
had
an
abundance
of
clarity.
We
did
hire
Diana
Fernandez
as
our
chief
Deputy
Chief
of
Urban
Design,
and
she
is
working
on
a
city-wide
design,
Vision
that
had
to
help
create
places
of
belonging
and
identity
across
Boston
and
that
are
specific
to
specific
neighborhoods.
So
there
will
absolutely
be
engagement
in
Roxbury.
G
I
want
to
clarify
that
that's
not
specific
to
public
land,
that
is
to
guide
the
vpa's
entire
practice
of
Designing
the
built
environment
event.
Meanwhile,
we
also
completed
a
public
land
inventory.
I,
wouldn't
call
that
a
plan
I
would
call
that
a
inventory
of
property
that
so
that
we
understand
what
is
developable
on
city-owned
properties
as
a
starting
point
for
conversation
with
communities,
so
that,
while
we
might
say
this
property
is
suitable
for
development,
that
doesn't
mean
it's
a
plan
for
developing
that
property.
G
G
C
You
just
a
statement
that
I
wholeheartedly
believe
that
those
mostly
affected
by
any
government
decision
today
we're
talking
about
land,
but
that
decision
should
always
have
true
engagement
in
that
process.
We
should
always
hear
from
those
who
are
closely
affected
by
any
decision
by
the
government.
Absolutely
and
that's
why
why
I'm
here
so
I
want
to
thank
you,
Lewis
and
Rodney,
as
community
members
and
the
panelists
for
speaking,
but
also
wanted
to
hear
from
Chief
Jemison,
Chief,
Dylan
and
Deputy
Quark.
Thank
you
for
that.
C
Your
input
here
so
I
don't
have
any
specific
questions,
but
just
agree
that
any
decisions
made
we
should
hear
from
Community,
but
I'm
also
happy
to
hear
like
what
is
the
policy
and
what
have
you
been
doing
and
to
just
kind
of
really
have
a
clear
mind
of
what
has
already
happened
and
where
we're
going
from
here.
So
thank
you,
chair.
G
For
example,
where
we've
worked
together
with
community
members
for
several
years
had
over
50
Public
engagements
to
create
a
plan
for
nine
properties
for
public
crafted
partnership,
and
now
we
have
those
properties
moving
into
development.
So
that's
absolutely
what
we
want
to
be
working
to
achieve.
Thank.
D
D
Are
there
any
lessons
as
a
community
member?
Are
there
any
lessons
that
we
have
learned
from
that
initiative?
That
was
that
was
a
success,
but
that
might
help
the
community
that
might
help
City
officials
that
might
help
residents
might
help
city
councils.
As
we
discussed
this
proposal
by
Council
Fernandez
Anderson.
H
H
The
Deadly,
Nation
initiative,
as
we
go
back,
was
to
take
an
area
of
the
community
and
hold
it
in
advance
from
all
the
pressures
of
development
that
was
going
on
around
it
and
look
at
it
in
a
comprehensive
way
as
to
what
should
take
place.
So
the
planning
process
utilized
to
inform
what
could
should
take
place
in
that
area
was
critical
to
its
outcomes
in
terms
of
access
and
opportunities
for
people
who
now
live
there.
This
is
exactly
what
we're
saying:
we're
asking
for
moratorium.
H
I
have,
unfortunately
too
much
history
with
local
state
and
national
government.
Some
International
and
I.
Remember
back
in
83,
I
worked
for
coastal
zone
management
and
the
Executive
Office
of
Environmental
Affairs
called
femoratorium
and
development
in
the
South
Shore
of
Massachusetts
and
Cape
Cod,
particularly
because
development
was
taking
place
so
rapidly.
We
call
for
moratorium
in
development
because
developers
are
looking
to
get
down
in
the
cape,
but
we
had
not
gotten
completely
read
into
what
the
challenges
were
so
roads
and
particularly
sewer
systems
and
water.
H
You
know,
production
and
safety
was
an
issue
that
was
not
taken
into
consideration.
We
called
for
more
attorney
and
got
it
for
a
while
that
allowed
us
to,
in
a
sense,
relay
a
lot
of
challenges
that
happens
in
other
places
where
you
don't
get
a
comprehensive
plan
and
you
don't
get
people
looking
at
what
things
should
happen.
Roxbury
is
a
very
unique
situation.
H
The
moratorium
says
we
know
that
growth
has
to
take
place.
We
support
the
growth
that
have
to
take
place.
We
now
are
asking
that,
instead
of
just
moving
right
along
in
a
Continuum,
we're
asking
for
a
pause,
but
just
you
know,
of
course
take
a
knee
take
a
moment
so
that
we
can
talk
about
how
those
plans
now
fit
with
the
lifestyles
and
quality
of
life
that
must
take
place
for
those
who
have
been
disfranchised
in
the
past.
H
H
H
Not
only
the
people
doing
the
planning,
as
the
state
was
doing
great
planning
for
the
third
Harbor
tunnel
and
the
FEDS,
but
they
weren't
thinking
about
the
people
who
lived
there
and
let
folks
who
live
there
and
form
the
process
and
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do
they're
trying
to
inform
the
process.
We
need
this
time
to
look
at
your
inventory.
H
What
has
taken
place
and
what
can
take
place.
I
think
author,
Chief
Jameson
would
understand
that
fell.
Island
marshed
the
coke
Halls
needed
a
pause.
It
didn't
happen.
We
took
a
lot
of
hit
in
Detroit.
We
can
take
better
pause
here
and
not
have
that
type
of
hit
and
not
go
through
the
challenges
that
we
went
through
in
Detroit
or
in
Flint.
You
know
from
North
Flint
to
the
river.
You
know.
Applause
gives
us
opportunity
to
do
good
planning,
comprehensive
planning.
Thank
you
for
the
question.
D
Thank
you,
Louis
I,
don't
have
any
further
questions.
Maybe
just
one
comment:
I
don't
have
the
I,
don't
have
the
knowledge
of
the
answers
on
these
issues,
but
what
I
do
know
is
councilor
Fernandez
Anderson
is
is
trying
to
bring
residents
together,
trying
to
bring
City
officials
together.
Bpda
senior
leadership
city
council
is
together
and
having
a
discussion
so
just
want
to
thank
councilor
Fernandez
Anderson
for
the
important
work
and
Leadership
she's
providing
thank
you.
Mr,
chair.
A
Thank
you,
Louis
I
do
remember
that
I've
been
involved
a
while
believe
it
or
not.
Shayla.
You
would
talk
about
one
lot.
That
was
looking
at
a
co-op.
Can
you
explain
what
you
mean
by
a
co-op?
What's
it
going
to
look
like?
Is
it
going
to
be
like
communal
living
or
Co-op
apartment
style,
and
where
is
it?
You
know
the.
F
Biggest
co-ops
right
there
was
right,
there
was
one
parcel
of
land
that
was
going
to
be
used
for
Cooperative
development
in
Highland
Park,
and
it
was
cooperative
form
of
home
ownership
and
it
has
been
designated
with
with
approval
from
the
PRC,
and
we
are
waiting
for
it
to
line
up
its
financing.
We
hope
that
it
will
start
soon.
F
A
Thank
you,
Lewis
with
all
this
planning
and
all
the
talk
around
the
planning
and
specifically
Roxbury.
How
do
you
look
at
as
someone
they
spent
in
Roxbury
for
as
long
as
you
have
it's
your
neighborhood
and
how
you
feel
about
it,
because
it's
the
same
way
I
feel
about
mine?
How
do
you
feel
about
when
you
get
on
zooms
and
you
get
people
from
JP
and
Cambridge
and
and
every
place
else,
but
Roxbury
telling
you
what
to
do?
How
do
you
is
there
pushback
there
from
you
and
you
can
answer
whatever
way
you
want.
H
There's
always
pushback
from
Garrison
Trotter
for
44
years
we've
been
trying
to
help
identify
and
Define
what
should
happen
in
the
community.
We
had
proposed
to
going
back
to
Kevin
White
that
the
space
that
was
taken
on
the
urban
renewal
will
be
used
for
home
ownership
for
Equity
homeownership,
allowing
people
to
live
in
the
multiple
multi-family
units.
You
know
apartment
units
to
have
access
to
opportunity,
home
ownership.
We
should
give
equity
and
growth,
because
that
is
the
basis
for
wealth
development
in
any
Community.
H
You
know
we
should
listen
to
that,
because
that's
what
makes
the
neighborhood
and
that's
basically,
what
makes
the
city
and
when
you
forget
to
listen
to
the
folks
who
live
there.
Then
we
create
a.
We
create
a
situation
where
what
brings
us
together
as
a
city
and
holds
us
together,
cities
which
is
neighborhoods.
You
know
it
starts
to
dissipate.
It
starts
to
go
away.
Roxbury
is
saying
we
want
to
do.
What
everybody
else
has
been
doing
is
basically
have
some
saying
control
as
to
what's
going
on.
They
put,
we
think
people
should
be
hurt.
H
We
we
welcome
them.
We
are
most
welcoming
Community
I,
think
in
the
city
of
Boston,
in
terms
of
diversity,
but
in
terms
of
decisions
it
makes
for
me
it's
horrifying
to
have
a
three-family
home
turned
into
a
nine
unit
apartment
building
which
are
blocks
as
the
council
talked
about
it's
horrifying
because
you
came
here
in
the
course
of
community,
and
you
know
what
I
mean
when
I
say
community
yeah.
You
know
whether
it's
the
you.
K
H
A
It
I
just
want
to
make
a
point
before
I
forget
it.
I'm
getting
older,
so
Lewis
had
said
about.
We
don't
mind
people
from
other
communities
coming
in
and
weighing
in
on
a
dis
on
our
district
projects.
What
concerns
us
is
when
those
people
that
don't
live
closest
to
the
problem
have
an
outsized
voice.
A
E
It
would
seem
to
me
like
between
that
and
the
PRC
that
we
have
had
in
place
for
a
long
time,
community-led
input
that
guided
rfps
for
parcel
P10
parcel
P9
P3
that
led
the
selection
and
development
of
most
of
the
major
Roxbury
properties.
Now
I
know
we're
now
at
a
smaller
working
with
smaller
properties.
Is
that
a
is
that
a
framework
that
makes
sense
to
extend
because
it
seems
like
it
would
bring
Community
voice
to
the
front
and
talk
about
critical
properties?
E
A
B
Do
you
want
to
answer?
Yes,
please
thank
you,
chair.
Thank
you,
chief
for
asking
I
think
that
it's
a
ideal
process
that
should
be
used.
It's
not
it's
not
where
it
needs
to
be
from
engaging
with
Community
attending
those
meetings.
I
think
bpda
has
gotten
a
lot
of
feedback
about
how
folks
are
not
actually
being
heard
to
full
extinct
and
I
know
that
you
can't
get
it
perfect
right
like
so,
some
people
will
come
in
and
say
we
want
rental.
B
We
want
something
on
a
rooftop,
but
we
want,
and
then
you
have
to
sort
of
get
a
vote
and
I
I
think
that,
ideally
it's
a
good
process.
The
one
of
the
other
issues
that
I've
heard
from
Community,
also
and
from
Members,
is
that
a
lot
of
the
people
in
that
committee
are
not
from
Roxbury.
In
fact,
don't
live
there
and
not
associate
it
not
even
in
D7,
so
I
think
that
that
that's
a
problem
I
think
that
it
should
be
people
that
live
in
Roxbury,
not
just
own
a
business
in
Roxbury.
B
The
community,
of
course,
is
not
directly
connected
to
them
other
than
how
they're
going
to
make
money
out
of
it,
so
that
exploitive
type
of
approach,
I,
think,
is
something
we
want
to
do
away
with
and
I
think
look,
I
think
that
bpda
wants
to
do
good,
how
we
designed
that
and
you're
doing
good
I'm,
not
I'm.
Sorry
I'm,
not
like
I
just
got
here,
who
am
I
to
tell
you
anything.
That's
a
question.
B
I
just
got
here,
thanks
Frank
for
redirecting
me,
but
the
point
is:
is
that
if
we
are
not
very
intentional
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
we're
inclusive
of
people
that
live
in
Roxbury
and
also
that
we
are
actually
baking
it
into
or
threading
it
into
the
fabric
of
the
ideologies
that
guide
these
types
of
racial
equities,
then
what
are
we
doing
and
I?
Think
some
of
those
failed
policies?
Are
not
on
purpose,
but
just
we
need
to
pay
attention
and
be
more
Vigilant
when
we
are
figuring
out.
E
No
I
it
was,
it
was
pardon
me
through
the
chair
to
member
member
Fernandez
Anderson
thanks
chair.
That
was
very
good
answer
to
my
question.
Second,
one
just
had
to
do
with
planning.
So
typically
my
experience
is
when
there's
concern
about
dispositions
that
either
there's
a
approach
or
Forum,
where
that
can
be
heard.
It
sounds
like
the
Highland
Park
PRC
was
one
of
them
and
it
sounds
like
subject
to
the
things
you
were
just
saying:
the
Roxbury
strategic
master
plan
oversight
committee
could
be
one
of
them.
E
B
In
terms
of
the
plan,
the
parcels-
that's
exactly
exactly
that's
exactly
what
we're
saying
when
I
was
mentioning
Miss
Fernandez,
who
reacted
and
I
think
it
was
more
because
I
was
just
generally
saying
this
prompted
Roxbury
to
feel
like
there's
planning
on
the
way,
and
so
yes,
of
course,
there
needs
to
be
planning
around
the
parcels,
but
it
can
be
done.
The
way
Chief
Dylan
has
mentioned
in
terms
of
looking
at
all
the
parcels
because
there's
some
sort
of
like
Perpetual.
You
know
domino
effect
to
what
you
put
in
once
right.
B
So
you
can't
just
think
okay
housing,
then
housing.
Again,
then
housing
again,
you
have
to
think
about
the
the
Roxbury
or
Roxbury
Inns
as
a
whole
person,
and
so
that's
not
happening
and
we're
at
we're
saying
to
you
and
and
thank
you
so
much
Devin
for
opening
up
your
doors
and
lending
me
Jonathan
and
Rebecca
to
work
with
me.
However,
we
only
talked
about
four
Parcels.
B
We
need
to
talk
about
that
and
we
thought
that
a
moratorium
would
allow
us
to
time
to
figure
out
how
to
do
it,
because
if
there
are
failed
policies
and
if
there
are
failed
processes
shouldn't
we
take
the
time
to
meet.
If
you
don't
have
the
full
answer
today
and
I,
don't
have
the
full
answer
shouldn't
we
take
a
little
time
and
talk
about
it
and
I
think
that's
the
community
process.
B
E
G
And
just
thank
you,
counselor
I
think
I
just
want
to
again
recognize
the
work
of
our
teams
together,
trying
to
get
this
right
with
all
the
community
members,
both
present
and
and
in
throughout
Roxbury.
One
thing
I
want
to
recognize
is
that
the
the
intent
is
obviously
there
and
I
really
appreciate
you,
recognizing
that
our
our
team
operates
the
mission
that
we
want
to
hear
Community
voice
and
we
want
the
community
members
to
be
driving.
What
is
happening
on
public
land
is
ultimately,
as
Chief
Dylan
mentioned.
G
We
recently
were
speaking
with
some
Consultants
who
came
to
us
from
New
York
City,
who
had
had
some
experience
in
New
York
City's
Economic,
Development
Corporation,
which
is
very
similar
to
the
epra
edic
and
the
way
it
functions,
and
we
were
talking
them
about
the
way
we
dispose
the
public
property
and
they
were
Amazed
by
the
fact
that
Community
members,
through
our
process,
actually
help
us
write
the
rfps
and
get
whenever
before
we
put
out
an
RFP.
We
always
put
that
RFP
out
for
comment.
G
We
often
have
workshops
where
we
all
gather
around
a
table
before
covid,
actually
at
around
a
table
and
go
and
post
covered
more
often
virtually
and
together
change
the
words
of
the
document
in
the
RFP
to
reflect
community
members
intent.
But
recently
that's
been
a
lot
of
focus
on
changing
when
we're
in
our
housing
goals,
not
just
having
income
restricted
housing
goals,
but
having
homeownership
goals
is
something
that
has
come
directly
from
community
members.
G
Another
thing
that
came
directly
from
community
members
is
the
requirement
to
include
diverse
development
teams
and
maybe
selection
criteria
for
who
is
going
to
develop
on
public
land
to
make
sure
that
the
people
developing
land
are
reflective
of
the
of
the
community
members
themselves
and
reflecting
our
shared
commitment
to
diversifying
the
real
estate
industry.
Those
are
things
that
have
come
out
of
our
community
process
today
and
that's
just
not
how
other
cities
do
it.
G
H
Not
just
a
different
just
a
point
of
correction
for
history:
I
grew
up
in
Stein,
I
was
adopted
here
in
Boston
50
some
years
ago
and
I'm
very
proud
to
be
a
new
resident
of
Boston
and
so
to
speak.
But
we
grew
up
in
model
cities
and
during
the
model
cities
programs
in
bedside,
the
the
city
was
informed
and
they
were
in
partnership
with
the
neighbors
and
communities
to
develop
and
to
deal
with
the
housing
that
they
wanted
to
move
from
everyone.
We
know
and
other
challenges,
and
so
they
have
that
process.
H
Now
it
may
have
slipped
away
and
we
may
have
grown
out
process
in
order
to
do
that.
But
you
know,
if
now
they
say
they
don't
work
with
the
communities
and
beds
die
or
you
know
whatever
Park
areas
in
this
areas.
I
know
for
a
long
time.
If
the
Prospect
Park
area
and
the
Williamsburg
section,
those
folks
have
a
lot
to
say
about
how
things
got
done.
H
H
You
know
the
idea
of
communities
working
with
this
city
to
try
to
decide
what
goes
on
in
here.
It's
a
tradition,
that's
why
we
call
the
communities,
the
common
Unity
that
comes
together
and
I'm
glad
to
do
this,
but
be
informed.
It
started
off
working
that
we
worked
through.
You
know
our
local
representatives
and
others
to
have
us
say
in
Ohio
housing.
What
housing
we
take.
A
L
You
councilor
Beaker
and
thank
you
to
councilor
Anderson
for
bringing
this
forth.
You
know,
I
have
always
said
you
know.
People
know
this
that
nothing
about
us
without
us
is
for
us
and
running
across
the
city
of
Boston.
The
one
thing
that
I
heard
in
2018
and
2019
and
every
time
I
go
out
into
these
streets
is
that
things
are
being
done
for
us
and
planning
and
no
matter
what
systems
have
been
put
in
place.
L
Buildings
pop
up
decisions
get
made,
and
people
are
usually
an
afterthought,
so
I
think
that
this
conversation
in
terms
of
pausing
and
really
looking
at
our
protocols,
our
procedures
and
getting
things
on
the
record
in
terms
of
what
we're
going
to
do
differently
moving
forward
is
what
this
moment
requires
right,
it's
not
about
being
anti-development.
It
is
being
pro
people
and
I
think
that
that
is
what
this
conversation
is
geared
towards.
L
Is
making
sure
that
we
are
doing
our
dual
diligence
to
ensure
that
Roxbury,
when
we
see
I
grew
up
here
in
the
city
of
Boston,
I
have
seen
this
whole
entire
city
be
gentrified
completely,
and
the
people
that
I
worked
with
when
I
had
my
own
non-profit
organization,
advocating
for
Quality
education
now
they're
out
in
Brockton,
advocating
for
Quality
education
in
Brockton
in
the
in
Randolph,
you
know
in
in
other
parts
of
Taunton
and
so
like.
We
can't
let
the
last
of
the
city
that
we
have
left
I
know
matapan
is
on
Deck
too.
L
So
we
just
know
how
every
we
know
how
City,
Works
and
I
think
there's
a
lack
of
trust
right.
It
doesn't
matter
who
is
at
the
helm
if
people
don't
really
believe
in
government
and
that's
why
conversations
about
what
we're
going
to
do
and
how
we're
going
to
hold
ourselves
accountable
to
that
work
is
that's
why
this
conversation
is
so
important.
L
If
we
don't
press,
pause
and
say
not
here,
then
we're
just
going
to
keep
coming
back
into
this
chamber
and
giving
people
what
we
think
they
want
to
hear,
and
so
this
is
our
moment
to
and
I'm
excited
that
the
mayor
is
leading
with
a
pro
planning
agenda,
but
that
Pro
planning
agenda
has
to
be
led
by
the
people
and
defined
by
the
people.
What
planning
looks
like
I
would
like
to
see
here's
a
parcel.
L
It's
going
to
take
a
little
bit
longer
to
have
a
people-centered
approach,
but
I
think
that
that
is
what
this
moment
is
calling
for.
This
is
a
trust,
building
exercise
and
putting
a
pause
on.
This
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
build
the
infrastructure
and
a
framework
that
we
can
then
model
across
the
city,
so
I'm
here
to
learn
what
that
looks
like
and
what
we
need
to
do
on
the
council
for
accountability
around
this
Vision.
Thank
you.
B
B
We
agree
that
the
land
should
be
planned
for
by
if
it's
in
Roxbury
by
the
residents
in
Roxbury.
We
agree
that
they
should
also
be
owned
by
people
in
rocks
in
Roxbury,
and
we
agree
that
there's
a
need
for
racial
Equity
with
this
process,
specifically
because
of
the
harm,
and
we
agree
that
that
process
should
be,
should
look
like
some
sort
of
some
form
of
PRC
or
Roxbury
strategic
master
plan,
some
sort
of
Master
Plan
process
that
we
would
go
through.
B
Can
you
tell
me
what
that
would
look
like
I
think
this
is
my
third
time
asking
it
and
I,
and
so
we've
gotten
to
the
intentions
and
what
we
agree
on
I
just
I
would
I'd
like
to
understand.
Then,
if
you
have
an
idea
of
exactly
what
that
would
look
like
after
collecting
the
inventory,
we
have
the
PRC
in
place.
B
We
have
a
Garrison
Trotter,
we
have
dsni
and
we
have
the
D7
district
7
advisory
Council
in
place
with
a
plan,
and
we
are
looking
forward
to
including
the
community
at
large
with
all
of
those
resources
in
place.
What
is
the
next
step
that
is
going
to
be
inclusive
and
also
Implement?
All
of
the
things
that
I've
listed
that
we
agree
on.
E
Thank
you
through
the
chair
to
councilor,
Fernandez
Anderson,
so
I
guess
what
I'm
here
to
do
is
listen
today,
I've
shared
our
view
about
not
having
a
moratorium.
What
I've
heard
today
suggest
that
we
have,
you
know
I
think
we
keep
skipping
over.
We
go
from
urban
renewal
to
today.
We
keep
skipping
over
the
2000
the
the
year
2000,
when
we
had
a
Roxbury
strategic
master
plan
and
all
the
Committees
and
structures
that
emerged
from
that
and
all
the
decisions
that
led
to
development
that's
been
constructed
for
the
neighborhood.
That
grew
out
of
that.
B
May
I
may
just
a
comment
about
the
skipping
over
not
necessarily
skipping
over
or
being
cynical
about
the
progress
that
bpda
with
the
community
has
done
that
Boston
has
done
in
Roxbury,
but
rather
that
they
feel
like
tokenism.
There's
a
there
are
larger
parcels
and
there's
a
bigger
inventory
than
what's
what's
included
in
Roxbury
strategic
Mass
plan,
and
this
huge
inventory
that
is
left
the
248
Parcels
from
moh
and
the
159
from
bpda.
B
That's
a
lot
of
inventory
and
then
you
have
Highland
Park.
That
has
a
total
of
it
looks
like
55
or
more
Parcels
just
in
the
catchment
area,
and
the
community
is
now
arguing
that
even
that
list
there's
a
discrepancy
in
that
list,
and
so
what
I'm
saying
is
not
that
we're
not
skipping
over
and
I'm
and
I'm
I.
B
Think,
for
the
sake
of
time,
I've
always
said
that
this
process
is
ridiculous
because
we're
talking
at
each
other
and
then
we
don't
actually
capture
the
full
conversation
as
we
would
want
to,
but
obviously
I'm
just
I'm
just
trying
to
save
time.
If
and
if
we
could
go
through
this
list,
if
it
was,
if
I
was
a
chair,
we
would
go
through
the
entire
list
right,
but
because
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
time.
I'm
and
forgive
me
Chief,
author
jemisin
is
that
I'm
trying
to
save
time
and
say
yeah.
B
We
recognize
that
you
did
Roxbury
strategic
Mass
plan,
we
recognize
PR
PRC
and
we
recognize
a
dsni
and
small
efforts
like
that.
We
want
to.
We
don't
ask
the
black,
the
black
community
or
majority
of
black
community.
We
don't
want
to
always
be
catching
up.
We
have
to
always
run
after
the
carrot
and
always
want
to
beg
to
be
included.
Can
you
please
include
us?
Please
can
you
please?
A
B
E
It
sounds
like
we
need
to
have
some
more
planning
done,
and
my
proposal
or
my
my
takeaway
is
that
we
do
have
some
successful
efforts
to
build
on
so
I
think
what
I'm
taking
back
is
that
there's
a
an
interest
in
having
those
remaining
Parcels
planned
for
and
some
of
the
approval
structures
that
have
existed
over
those
Parcels
to
be
expanded
or
enhanced?
That's
my
takeaway!
So
far,
it
sounds
like
that.
Those
would
be
the
next
steps
from
what
we're
talking
about
today.
E
The
chair
to
councilor,
Fernandez,
Anderson
I
think
it
will
certainly
given
the
feedback
you're
giving
to
me
in
the
and
the
group
here
today.
It
certainly
will
take
a
little
time
to
think
about.
Well,
how
should
we
change
the
Roxbury
strategic
master
plan
oversight
committee,
where
you
know
what
is
the
right
planning
approach
to
take
those
to
those
other
Parcels?
E
B
E
Answers
yes
through
the
chair,
I,
remember,
Fernandez,
Anderson
I
would
like
to
know
more.
What
of
what
that
means?
Are
you
talking
about?
I
certainly
would
like
to
hear
any
research
and
work
product.
That's
come
out
of
the
group.
You've
been
convening,
so
they
can
be
incorporated
and
any
suggestions
about
the
way
that
the
committees
or
or
their
work
or
future
planning
work
should
be
organized,
certainly
open
to
all
those
suggestions.
L
L
G
And
I'm
happy
to
start
with
that,
counselor
I'm
gonna
have
to
give
you
more
information
about
any
specific
community
meeting,
but
I
think
we
certainly
have
I
guess,
there's
probably
two
major
mechanisms.
One
is
at
how
we
track
who
attends
the
meeting
right?
Who
signs
up
for
Zoom
who
come
comes
to
the
to
the
meeting?
I
think
the
the
other
is
who
hosts
the
meeting?
G
How
do
we
call
the
meetings,
invited
and
I
think
one
of
our
certainly
in
the
public
we're
here
today
talking
about
public
Land,
Development
and
I
think
are
certainly
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
BPA
team,
but
I
know
this
is
true
of
moh
as
well.
Try
to
work
as
closely
as
possible
with
the
neighborhood
associations
to
make
sure
we're
working
through
their
lists
in
terms
in
terms
of
invitation
and
and
holding
the
the
meetings
on
their
terms.
K
L
And
can
you
just
for
the
record
and
for
those
who
are
tuning
in?
Can
you
just
share
with
us
your
decision
making
model
process
because
there
seems
to
be
a
conflict
of
understanding
between
what
people
want
and
what
you
all
end
up,
producing
so
I'm
just
curious
kind
of
like
if
you
can
walk
us
through
your
decision
making
process
and
how
you
score
and
rate
Community
voice
in
your
decisions.
Yeah.
G
Thank
you
for
that
question.
Council.
It's
an
excellent
one,
I
think
very
helpful
to
this
conversation,
so
our
public
land
disposition
process
always
starts
with
community
visioning.
So
we
we
always
start
we're
gonna
work.
We're
recently
doing
this
in
the
water
and
sewer
parking
lots.
I
have
another
meeting
coming
up
next
week
on
community
visioning,
for
that
rather
large
property.
We
do
the
same
thing.
Even
if
it's
for
a
butter,
sailor
or
a
community
garden,
we'd
say,
there's
a
piece
of
public.
You
know
land
we
like
to
have
a
community
meeting
on
it.
L
B
Mr,
chair,
sorry,
I,
guess
the
question
came
because
one
of
the
issues
is
that
so
you
you
can.
We
can
count
how
many
people
in
the
meeting
and
then
you
would
see
that
majority
of
them
are
City
people
and
developers
and
not
residents.
And
so
because
I
know
everyone
I
know
the
difference
between
the
city
developers,
residents
and
there
was
a.
L
For
ourselves,
what
a
community
stakeholder
is
and
that,
as
we
continue
to
move
through
this
process,
when
we're
thinking
about
decision
makers,
that
it
is
the
people
who
are
most
impacted
or
who
live
in
that
community,
that
have
and
should
have
the
strongest
voice
in
in
the
decision-making
process
right
so
I.
Just
that's!
Why
I
ask?
How
do
you
know
who's
in
the
zoom
or
who's
in
the
room?
L
And
how
do
you
hold
yourself
accountable
to
a
decision-making
process
that
has
Integrity,
because
that's
the
that's
what
I'm
seeing
is
a
disconnect
here
like
you,
have
made
lots
of
efforts,
but
we
have
not
seen
a
real
return
on
investment
on
that
effort.
That
really
values
the
voices
of
the
people,
which
is
why
I
wanted
to
just
note
that
that
there's
there's
room
from
improvements
there
before.
A
L
L
There
are
a
lot
of
renters
in
this
in
Roxbury
right,
just
because
the
way
we
have
developed
in
that
particular
district,
and
so
when
we
talk
about
a
Butters,
it's
always
the
landlord.
Those
are
the
people
that
you
all
care
about
right,
but
a
lot
of
people
don't
own
their
property
and
the
people
who
own
property
in
Roxbury
don't
live
in
Roxbury,
but
they
also
have
a
greater
voice
because
they're,
the
ones
who
are
associated
with
that
at
so
there
seems,
seems
to
be
level
of.
L
Uneat
to
look
at
if
you're
a
renter
and
you're
paying
3
200
dollars
a
month
to
live
in
Roxbury,
then
you
should
have
a
voice
in
how
Roxbury
is
being
built
because
you're
going
to
be
displaced
by
the
decisions
that
landlords
are
making.
So
I
think
that
there's
a
there's
something
here
that
I'd
like
to
hear
you
talk
about.
G
Counselor,
thank
you
for
that
staff.
Members
are
tuning
into
this
hearing.
This
is
a
conversation
we
regularly
have
and
it
is
really
important
to
us
to
make
sure
our
Computing
engagement
process
is
authentic
and
actually
engages
all
in
your
from
all
the
members
of
the
community.
Here
for
all
the
different
perspectives
and
voices.
G
It
is
true
that
oftentimes,
it
is
the
homeowners
that
are
and
and
landowners
that
often
turn
out
most
often
for
Community
engagement
processes,
and
there
are
things
that
are
just
sort
of
structurally
inequitable
about
how
Community
engagement
works,
and
that
is
something
that's
really
important
to
us
to
get
right.
So
that's
that
we
we
talk
about
this
all
the
time
with
our
real
estate
team.
G
How
do
we
make
sure
that
our
engagement
process
is
we're
actually
reaching
the
renters,
the
low-income
renters
that
that
may
not
speak
English
at
home
and
hearing
their
voice
in
the
development
process
or
public
land?
So
from
a
from
a
values
perspective
we
are
100
there
I
think
we
are
welcome
any
feedback
on
how
to
get
there.
We've
done
a
lot
of
work
on
our
language
access
policy.
G
We've
done
a
lot
of
work
on
how
we
actually
hold
our
meetings
so
that
we
can
hear
the
the
hear,
hear
that
feedback
and
sometimes
meetings,
aren't
the
right
way
to
do
it.
Sometimes
it's
just
going
to
the
site
and
getting
feedback
individually
and
that's
what
our
staff
are
trying
to
do
that
more
often
as
well.
So
a
lot
of
this
is
about
engagement.
You
asked
a
question
earlier
about
the
process.
G
I
just
wanted
to
quickly
wrap
wrap
up
that
so
after
that
visioning
process
for
a
piece
of
public
land,
what
we
we
reach
a
con,
a
consensus
with
with
the
community
on
what
should
be
developed
on
that
property.
If
anything,
we
then
write
an
RFP.
We
then
share
that
RFP
for
comment
and
workshopping
with
community
members,
and
then
we
put
that
RFP
out
for
bid
that
we,
when
the
when
the
bids
come
back,
we
share
their
responses
with
community
members.
We
have
a
public
meeting,
we're
all
where
all
the
selected
developers
have
the
opportunity.
G
L
Go
ahead:
let's
just
talk
about
process
right,
because
we,
you
talked
about
having
meetings
and
I
I,
think
that
what
happens
is
that
you
hold
a
meeting
and
maybe
two
little
cats
show
up,
and
that
constitutes,
as
we
held
a
meeting
so
I
think
that
there
needs
to
be.
We
need
to
raise
the
bar
in
terms
of
what
community
engagement
looks
like
and
that
we
have
a
benchmark
decisions
where
30
people
or
more
are
in
the
room.
L
80
of
them
are
Roxbury
residents,
whatever
it's
going
to
look
like,
but
we
need
to
build
a
framework
that
really
has
legs
and
accountability
to
it,
because
I
have
been
to
meetings
when
there's
you
know
nobody,
there
yeah
and
you
held
a
meeting,
and
that
constitutes
that
you've
done
your
job.
But
have
you
really
done
your
job
when
the
people
have
not
been
heard
and
I
think
that
that
is
what
we're
trying
to
get
at
here
and
you
know
putting
a
pause
until
we
get.
This
right
is
the
fact
that
we
even
have
to
go.
L
G
I
counselor
I
think
I
think
we're
all
ears
for
improvements
to
the
process.
I
think
we're
again
just
want
to
express
values.
Alignment
here
in
terms
of
what
are
the
tactics
that
we
can
do
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
sponsored
counselor,
Fernandez
Anderson
has
asked
us
to
do
is
well,
let's
break.
Let's
take
a
little
bit
more
proactive
planning
approach
to
to
Parcels
to
group
more
property
together.
G
L
And
the
reason
why
I'm
leaning,
yes,
yep,
the
reason
why
I'm
leaning
into
what
the
problem
is
is
because,
in
this
process
we're
able
to
get
things
on
the
record
right
in
it,
I
really
do
appreciate
you,
leaning
into
it
I
would
love
to
be
able
to
see
a
framework
with
benchmarks
timelines,
there's
a
short-term
strategy
of
what
we're
going
to
do.
This
is
what
the
long
game
is.
This
is
the
outcomes.
These
are
the
steps
that
we're
going
to
hold
ourselves
accountable
to,
like
I.
L
Think
for
me,
the
the
more
specific
that
we
can
be
the
more
commitments
that
we
can
make
to,
what
that's
going
to
look
like
the
more
at
ease,
I'm
going
to
be
that
what
you're
saying
is
actually
going
to
manifest,
because
otherwise
it's
going
to
be
again
what
I
happen
to
see
here
all
the
time.
It's
a
really
beautiful,
PowerPoint
presentation
with
aspirational
goals,
but
when
it
comes
to
implementation,
we
all
fall
short.
B
K
B
We
basically
go
through
those
policies
and
we
say:
okay,
what's
the
next
step,
we
have
about
six
subcommittees
for
arts
and
place
making.
We
have
Economic
Development,
housing
and
so
forth,
and
so
we
look
at
these
things
on
a
granular
level
and
then
we
bring
it
back
to
the
team
and
then
I.
They
advise
me
on
what
to
file
I,
don't
always
listen
most
of
the
times
I
do,
but
for
the
most
part,
that
is
how
I
bring
I
come
to
a
decision.
B
In
the
same
sense,
I
would
like
to
bring
you
to
the
leaders
of
district
7
because
they
can
disseminate
information
to
the
constituents
and
they
can
bring
it
back
and
we
can
we
don't
have
we
don't.
You
don't
have
to
meet
with
everyone,
but
you
can
meet
with
all
of
the
leaders
and
they
will
bring
it
to
their
constituents
right
until
through
our
constituents,
and
so
there
is
a
process
already
in
place.
B
No
other
District
that
has
done
this
or
has
done
this
in
the
past,
or
does
this
now
but
I
also
meet
with
them
and
talk
about
budget
I
teach
them
through
the
budget.
What
how
do
you
actually
navigate
the
budget?
What
is
this
thing?
Some
of
them
know
already
and
some
of
them
don't,
and
so
in
that
same
way,
you
see
how
inclusive
that
is.
E
Through
the
chair,
councilor
Fernandez
Anderson,
just
to
make
sure
I
understand
the
question:
can
we
have
a
meeting?
It
sounds
like
in
under
30
days
with
me
and
Sheila
about
about
how
we
might
update
our
processes
to
reflect
the
views
of
the
the
groups
that
you
you've
convened.
I,
certainly
think
we
can
arrange
that.
Thank.
B
F
I
I'd
certainly
be
glad
to
attend
another
DC
D7
advisory.
That
sounds
great.
The
the
only
caution
I'll
just
put
this
out
there
I
don't
expect
any
answers,
but
it's
just
something
to
think
about
when
we
do
rfps
we
are
working
with
like
and
we
share
them
we're
working
with
Garrison
Trotter
or
Highland
Park
or
Diaz
and
I,
and
every
neighborhood
I
think
in
Roxbury
has
a
things
that
they're
most
interested
in.
So
when
we
meet
with
the
December
advisory.
B
Oh
Chief
I
am
hopeful,
I,
think
everything
is
possible
and
I
think
Diaz
and
I
Highland,
Park,
Garrison,
Trotter
and
PRC
are
all
going
to
come
to
one
consensus
and
we're
all
going
to
agree
and
we're
all
gonna
get
along
fabulously
and
we're
going
to
work
together
and
we
will
not
be
divided
and
conquered
this
way.
We
can
actually
plan
with
you.
It'd
be
one
voice.
One
D7
voice,
and
that
is
Day
idea,
is
to
consolidate
Community.
That's
my
job
right.
B
A
Yeah
I'd
like
to
I'd
like
to
come
over
here
and
give
you
guys
two
minutes
each
to
kind
of
close
this
up
with
with
a
little
past
noon.
Time
now
so
I
would
like
to
wrap
this
up.
So
Rodney
will
start
with
you
we'll
go
down
two
minutes.
Each
and
well
I'll
be
flexible
on
the
two
minutes,
but
I'd
like
to
two
to
three
minutes.
Please.
I
Thank
you
councilmaker,
so
I
I
think
we
could
we
could.
We
could
talk
about
some
of
the
inefficacies
of
the
of
the
bra
Arthur
you
and
I
share
that
we
were
both
associated
with
the
iag
for
Jackson
Square
I
was
the
co-chair
I'm
also
still
a
member
of
the
Bartlett
yard
PRC,
and
so
that
PRC
started
in
2004
I
believe
so
it's
still
going,
and
so
there's
there's
a
there's,
a
lack
of
consistency
around
the
way
those
two
pics
iags
were
conducted.
I
In
fact,
the
the
PRC
for
the
Jackson
Square
was
disbanded
by
you.
You
guys
the
VRA.
You
guys
basically
said
you
guys
were
done,
whereas
we're
still
engaged
and
by
the
way
you
mentioned
Dan
Richardson
Dan
Richardson
was
the
co-chair
of
the
of
the
the
bottom
PRC
after
we
had
given
our
recommendation
for
how
things
were
going
to
turn
out,
because
we
actually
crafted
that
RFP
and
I.
Think
that's.
I
Think
what
we
got
was
economic
blight
and
so
my
my
question,
that
sort
of
tails
off
of
that
is
of
the
678
units.
How
many
of
those
are
actually
home
ownership
units
that
you
mentioned
earlier
and
and
how
do
you
see
that
that
actually
built
economic,
an
economic
base
for
folks
in
Roxbury?
Right?
Because
if
we,
if
we
just
ended
up
building
a
bunch
of
rental
housing
that
was
managed
by
new
Western
Community
or
you
know,
Madison,
Park
or
any
other
of
The
Usual
Suspects?
I
E
E
I
think
I,
hear
your
question
about
more
involvement
in
rfps
I
think
we'd
want
to
lift
up
the
best
practices
and
the
experiences
that
have
been
best
for
that,
as
opposed
to
the
ones
that
haven't
been
good.
So
if
you
feel
like
the
ones
where
you've
been
directly
involved
in
rfps
are
better,
we'll
certainly
strive
to
do
that
and
then
I
think
that
I
do
think
that
there
does
need
to
be
and
there's
probably
not
in
this
hearing,
but
the
Community
Development
Corporation
I
recognize
the
critiques.
E
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
that
they
are
a
direct
outgrowth
of
urban
renewal
and
were
communities
taking
control
of
property
that
had
been
taken
from
people
to
redevelop.
It
I
recognize
that
they're
because
of
the
leadership
that
I
recognize
that
there's
been
a
lot.
There's
now
a
lot
of
debate
about
their
legacy,
but
I
think,
oh,
that
we
have
to
recognize
that
they
were
community-wed
organizations
that
have
been
able
to
develop
very
significant
property
and
I.
H
Mr
chairman
I,
want
to
thank
you,
councilor
Fernandez,
Anderson
I,
want
to
thank
you.
Councilman
mayor
I
I,
really
appreciate
you
bringing
practical
Clarity
to
what
we've
been
trying
to
say
and
I
want
to
thank
the
chief
and
Devin
I
want
to.
Thank
you
only
because
all
that
we
said
today
is
very
important,
but
I
want
to
be
clear
only
because
I
think
I
said
in
my
statement
and
I
want
to
reiterate
it
there's
a
lot
of
theory
that
governs
a
lot.
H
H
It
was
one
of
the
first
Community
Development
corporations
in
Boston
that
I
worked
with
I,
worked
with
model
cities
and
other
places
and
filling
in
different
places,
but
it
had
residents
who
bought
shares
into
the
Community
Development
Corporation
that
his
goal
was
to
raise
the
level
of
economic
equality
and
access
for
the
people
who
were
part
of
the
corporation
who
lived
in
the
community.
All
the
work
they
did
was
supposed
went
back
to
increasing
and
improving
the
quality
of
life
and
economics
to
believe
the
community.
That's
not
what
has
happened
over
the
past
30
years.
H
I
think
we've
lost
it
all
when
Reagan
came
in
1980,
and
so
we
saw
this
total
under
this
block.
Grant
really
changed
the
process
behind
we
make
Economic
Development
happen,
so
the
the
development
corporations
they've
grown
and
they've
done
well
and
they've
done
some
things
in
terms
of
submitting
and
keeping
people
in
the
community,
but
they've
kept
them
at
a
level,
and
that's
the
issue
that
we're
addressing
here.
We
want
to
change
that
level.
H
We
want
to
grow
like
every
place
else
Roxbury
once
we
want
to
see
the
residents
who
were
in
public
housing
in
the
ice
house
or
whatever
we
want
them
to
be
able
to
grow
and
develop
just
like
they
do
in
other
parts
of
the
city
Boston's
a
city
of
parishes,
sometimes
churches,
interesting.
No,
it's
not
interesting.
It's
a
fact,
because
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
in
Europe.
It's
been
four
years
over
there
yeah,
but
the,
but
the
role
that
they
played.
H
The
role
that
they
played
in
their
communities
is
critical
because
they
were
able
to
come
together
in
our
neighborhoods.
We
had
a
point
where
we
would
be
able
to
work
together
and
people
Representatives
came
from
the
community,
the
package.
We
don't
have
that
and
that's
why
the
PRC
and
all
these
other
groups
when
they
come
together.
You
know
we
need
to
know
that
the
people,
speaking
on
behalf,
are
really
representing
our
interests.
That's
why
it's
good
to
have
a
counselor
who
represents
our
interests
and
the
counselors.
H
Now
who
look
at
our
community
as
they
look
at
the
total
totality
of
the
city
that
we
want
the
same
thing,
everybody
else
we
want
we
asking
for
a
moratorium
so
that
we
can
get
our
trained
on
the
right
track.
That's
that's
all
that
we're
asking
for
and
I
can
tell
you.
You
know
that
having
come
from
cities
and
working
in
different
cities
around
the
country
and
the
world,
I
know
that
Boston
has
the
opportunity.
H
This
is
what
we
have
to
do
with
Knox
learning,
and
we
need
the
time
to
small
amount
of
time
for
working
together
to
get
that
done,
and
if
we
do
that,
I
think
that
what
we're
trying
to
do
even
without
Community
Development
corporations
will
get
back
on
the
track
it's
supposed
to
be,
and
we
can
move
forward.
I
appreciate
and
thank
you
counselors
for
bringing
us
together
and
thank
you,
Mr
President,
for
the
time.
Thank
you.
J
Chair
Baker,
I
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
that
you
can
truly
appreciate
the
importance
of
what
you
were
allowed
to
happen
today,
because
there
isn't
a
an
opportunity
to
have
dialogue
and
conversation.
As
the
counselor
said.
Even
now,
it's
like
across
the
table
trying
to
get
a
meeting
with
the
city
government
structure
is
damn
near
impossible.
J
It's
so
ironic,
I'm
listening
to
this
I
just
want
to
say
two
things
quickly:
one
Roxbury
Mass
plan
oversight
committee,
so
that
we're
clear
on
the
history.
If
you
read
the
document
you
go
to
the
end
of
the
document,
you
will
see
a
a
unilateral.
It
was
an
agreement
that
was
struck
between
the
Commonwealth
of
Massachusetts
and
the
City
of
Boston
to
dispose
of
11
State
parcels
when
the
state
reorganized
and
restructured
and
remembered
Department
of
Environmental
Management.
J
It
was
my
position,
then,
that
because
the
city
had
had
allowed,
the
lingering
of
so
many
other
Parcels
for
such
a
long
period
of
time
is
that
there
had
to
be
some
structure
around.
Turning
over
11
State
Parcels
to
the
city
of
Boston,
I
was
deeply
involved
in
that
process,
which
is
why
there's
an
agreement.
J
J
Committee
I
worked
with
councilor
Turner
in
drafting
and
creating
that
language
that
language
was
okay
for
two
thousand.
It
doesn't
really
work
in
2003,
and
so
we
should
be
revisiting
it.
Roxbury
is
the
only
neighborhood
in
this
city
where
so
many
of
the
councils
appointed
by
the
city
are
appointed
by
people
who
don't
live
in
Roxbury
I
use
an
example.
All
the
time
I
couldn't
get
appointed
to
the
South
Boston
Neighborhood
Council
I
couldn't
get
appointed
to
the
Austin
neighborhood
Council,
I
and
I
live
in
the
city.
J
We
have
as
many
people
that
live
outside
our
city
that
are
on
our
leadership
and
involved
in
making
decisions
for
us,
because
the
only
it
seems
the
only
requirement
from
City
Hall
in
terms
of
appointment
is
they
have
black
skin
and
no,
they
don't
even
ask
the
SEC
like
the
deeper
questions,
so
youth
yeah
say
that
so
here's
here's
the
point.
My
last
point
I
know
it
is
I
heard
director
Jameson
say
that
he
heard
your
comments,
counsel
about
the
moratorium
and
they've
expressed
their
opinion.
J
J
They
were
not.
They
were
created
to
replace
the
corporate
commercial
businesses
that
left
our
community
after
the
riots.
That's
what
happened
in
Lynn
I
worked
for
them.
They
were
my
client,
they
redeveloped
Main
Street.
The
cdc's
were
created
to
do
what
literally
our
main
streets
process
does.
They
were
never
never
created
to
become
the
biggest
landlords
of
low-income
and
subsidized
housing
in
our
community
and
because
of
this
disproportionate
focus
in
our
community.
J
The
city
of
Boston
Housing
policy
has
now
become
the
biggest
impediment
in
Roxbury
to
real
wealth
creation
and
I
know
that
that
is
a
powerful
statement
it's
hard,
but
that
is
just
a
fact.
We
now
have
like
five
seven
thousand
affordable
housing
units.
We
have
3
000,
Deeds,
restricted,
homeownership
units,
30-year
deed
restrictions,
50-year
deed
restrictions.
There
is
this
is
this:
is
the
definition
of
how
you
create
gentrification
and
if
the
city
really
is
concerned
and
and
I
and
I
am
so
happy
that
that
is
one
of
Mayor
Wu's
Focus.
J
She
said
every
time
she
speaks.
She
talks
about
wealth
creation.
We
can't
get
there
if
you,
if,
if
the
city
doesn't
listen
to
our
counselor,
she
she
is
speaking
for
all
of
us.
She
knows
what
she's
talking
about.
We
have
to
rethink
this
and
the
only
way
we
can
do
it
is
by
talking
and
so
counselor
the
chair
committee,
chair,
Baker
I.
Just
am
so
appreciative
that
you
have
you.
J
You
allowed
us
the
opportunity
to
have
at
least
the
initial
conversation
I,
don't
call
it
a
discussion,
because
that
would
be
back
and
forth
and,
like
the
counselor
said
sitting
but
yeah,
this
is
really
really
critical,
because
we
think,
with
the
decision
to
give
away
the
rest
of
the
land
that
was
stolen.
This
is
our
last
shot
at
it.
So
yeah
we're
a
little
emotional
about
it,
we're
a
little
heavy
and
angry
about
it
and
we're
gonna
be
because
we
think
we
know
this
may
be
it
like.
J
You
look
at
the
map,
those
were
all
homes,
I
went,
we
went
got
the
map,
those
are
all
homes
and
the
city
says
we're
going
to
give
it
away.
Well,
wait:
don't
you
think
we
deserve
a
conversation
before
you
give
away
give
away
what
was
the
economic
base
and
ecosystem
of
a
whole
neighborhood?
And
we
are
the
only
neighborhood
in
this
city
that
struggle
that
suffered
this
reality.
J
A
Thank
you,
I'm
all
about
rail
conversations,
but
I
have
to
push
back
on
one
one
point
you
made
there
there
is
enable
it
happens
to
be
mine,
that
in
the
50s
54
to
be
exact,
is
when
the
93
went
in
there
cut
us
off
from
from
the
water.
So
basically
my
family
and
families
that
lived
around
us
breathe
in
diesel
from
the
from
the
trains
back
when
there
was
Freights
there,
diesel,
not
diesel,
but
regular
particulates
from
the
from
the
highway
and
everything.
A
So
we
were
the
community
that
the
the
fed
the
feds
were
actually
able
to
implement
what
they
wanted
to
do.
So
we've
been
cut
off
my
entire
life
and
my
family
first
was
where
they,
where
we
are
still
now,
we
could
walk
out
our
back
doors
to
the
water,
wasn't
exactly
a
beach,
but
we
could
walk
out
the
back
doors
of
the
water.
So
there
are
more
communities
that
have
been
affected
by
government
decisions
and
and
maybe
93
needed
to
go
there
because
of
progress
or
whatever.
A
A
That
thank
you,
so
Sheila
I
just
have
one
question
for
you,
because
Apple
was
brought
up
earlier
in
terms
of
Housing
and
all
that
stuff.
How
much
did
how
much
all
in
and
moving
forward
are
we
going
to
give
the
roundhouse
with
apple
money,
The
Roundhouse
number
first
and
then
the
number
for
all
of
your
your
low
threshold
housing,
which
is
predominantly
not
people
from
Boston?
A
A
A
F
A
L
I
just
had
a
question:
yeah:
okay,
councilmania
yeah.
Thank
you,
chair
I'm,
just
curious.
You
know,
and
this
is
going
back
and
I,
don't
think
I
really
got
a
real
sense
of
your
answer
is
when
neighborhoods
have
a
plan
for
their
lots,
I'm
just
curious
how
they
should
interact
with
the
mayor's
housing
mayor's
office
of
Housing
and
dbpda
when
they
meet.
What
is
your
approach
to
receiving
their
plans?
I'm
just
curious
kind
of
like
how
these
worlds
intersect
with
each
other.
F
F
G
K
L
A
A
A
M
M
I
also
I
should
say
that
I
am
Derek
Christopher
Evans
I'm,
an
Insider,
not
an
outsider.
I
arrived
in
Boston
in
1983
to
attend
Boston
College
and
among
the
first
people
that
I
met
and
befriended
and
who
embraced
me
were
Mel
King,
Amanda,
Houston
and
people
of
Roxbury
of
that
Community
stewardship,
ilk
and
tradition.
M
Since
19
in
1992,
I
became
a
tenant
on
while
College
Street,
which
is
in
District
Seven,
again
I'm,
an
Insider
of
Roxbury
wachulla,
Street
district
7,
as
well
as
HUD
and
EPA,
and
other
Federal
regions,
one
after
while
I
was
a
tenant.
In
effect,
we
had
on
Wakulla
Street
throughout
rexberry
Roxbury,
something
ironically
akin
to
a
moratorium,
and
it
was
we
called
it
disinvestment,
neglect
absence
and
so
forth,
and
it
on
Wakulla
Street.
It
was
quite
beneficial
to
this
community.
M
We
in
napally
knew
that
our
future
was
primarily
going
to
be
and
should
be
in
our
hands,
and
so
we
began
to
vision
by
1997.
I
had
become
the
owner
of
four
multi-family,
triple
ducks
three
family
houses
on
my
street
and
which,
which
then
provided
12,
affordable
rental
units
for
my
neighbors
to
stay
and
for
others
to
come
since
then,
either
five
additional
multi-family
homes
on
this
street
and
very
very
nearby
with
enough
just
short
few
feet.
M
Five
additional
multi-family
homes
have
been
acquired,
rehabilitated
and
occupied
and
owned
by
seven
of
either
my
former
students
former
tenants
or
a
neighbors
kid
or
grandkid.
This
is
all
created
black
wealth.
It
has
retained
black
wealth,
it
has
provided
affordable
rental,
housing
and,
more
frankly,
Wakulla
Street,
like
other
communities.
This
one
is
a
very
good
example
of
that
the
neighborhood
at
a
granular
level
knows
and
knows
best
our
history,
our
landscape,
our
options,
our
challenges
and
our
dangers.
M
One
of
the
reasons
you
have
not
heard
about
this
on
Wakulla
Street,
even
though
it's
probably
one
of
the
best
localized
Urban
self-determined
renewal
stories
in
this
city,
maybe
country,
is
that
it
had
to
be
stealth
because
we
have
not
and
frankly,
I
do
not
as
of
yet
trust
any
of
the
agencies
or
appointed
or
electives
from
City
Hall
at
the
administration,
the
city
of
Boston,
to
know
well
or
to
know
best.
The
proof
has
been
in
the
pudding
and
well
done
is
better
than
well
said
now.
M
There
are
currently
five
vacant
Lots
within
1500
feet
of
Wakulla
street
that
are
on
the
list
of
the
lots
to
be
disposed
of
because
they
are
vacant
and
or
unutilized
we've
been
thinking
and
talking
about
those
lots
for
decades.
One
of
them
at
15
Wakulla
street
is
the
award-winning
Wakulla
Street
Community
Garden
in
1968.
M
My
neighbors
long
before
I
got
here
took
what
had
been
a
raised:
a
supposedly
blighted
building
by
bra
the
bra
didn't
fence
it
didn't
improve,
it
didn't
didn't,
allow
for
both
Public
Safety
and
they
began
to
plant
tomatoes
and
collard
greens
and
calend
in
this
Garden
by
2001.
The
Boston
magazine
referred
to
this
community
garden
as
the
best
of
Boston
that
was
22
years
ago
in
2022.
It
came
in
second
place
in
the
city's
mayor-wide
Garden
contest
that
same
month
of
that
same
year.
M
It
also
appeared
on
this
list
of
vacant
and
unutilized
public
owned
Parcels
in
Boston.
Now,
which
one
is
it?
Is
it
a
community
determined
award-winning
City
recognized
vacant
lot,
or
is
it
one
of
these
Lots
on
this
big
list
of
just
thrown
against
the
wall
as
available
for
giving
away?
If
I
quote
the
mayor
correct
to
developers
who
have
a
good
idea?
M
We
also
know
that
sometimes
certain
Outsiders
are
very
welcome.
I
want
a
few
people
who's.
Both
a
landlord
of
multiple
rental
properties
is
also
a
long
time.
Member
and
supporter
of
City
Life
Vita
Urban
I
go
to
court
on
behalf
of
people
who
are
being
evicted
as
a
just
to
support,
sometimes
emotional,
support,
unjustly
or
who
are
losing
homes
due
to
mortgage
situations.
M
Thank
you
I'll
end
by
saying.
Well,
that's
it
I
just
want
to
tell
you
that
on
Wakulla,
Street,
I
think
we're
an
example
that
the
community
does
know
where
we
are
what
to
do
with
where
we
are
and
to
lead
the
effort
to
do
it
ourselves
and
Community
Driven
Community
Driven
can
allow
for
appropriate
Outsiders,
not
the
rich,
Outsiders,
the
money
to
Outsiders,
but
folks
who
Advocate
as
for
what
we
want.
Those
are
good
Outsiders
to
include
so
that
we
can
hold
our
ground
and
thank
you.
N
I'll
keep
it
as
short
as
possible:
hi
I'm,
Linda,
Freeman
I'm
in
Highland
Park,
and
thank
you
councilor
Baker,
chair
and
councilor
Fernandez
Anderson
I
want
you
to
keep
in
mind
as
I
also
agree
with
the
moratorium,
but
I
also
want
you
to
keep
in
mind
open
space,
Green
Space
in
the
communities
as
well.
Why.
N
O
Hi
councilor
breaker
and
everybody
here,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak.
I'm,
Paul,
I'm,
formerly
homeless
here
in
Boston
and
I.
Just
have
I
do
organizing
in
the
homeless
Community
here,
particularly
a
lot
around
mastercast
and
I.
Just
have
a
question.
If
this
can
be
incorporated
into
the
record,
I've
got
a
couple
of
questions
for
each
City
councilor
in
each
district.
O
O
Even
if
it's
post
this
meeting
and
then
the
second
question
would
be
the
same
for
long-term
housing
and
these
two,
these
two
groupings
of
housing,
so
transitional
housing,
people
coming
out
of
homelessness
and
interested
in
recovery
and
long-term
housing
for
for
the
same
and
what
is
the
wrap
around
services
for
people
looking
into
recovery,
people
looking
to
advance
economically
financial
and
so
forth?
And
what
are
the
measurables
for
those
wraparound
Services
where
there
can
be
accountability
and
outcomes
outcome
measurables
for
those?
O
So
that's
all
I've
got
and
if
that
could
get
incorporated
into
this
record,
I
think
that
would
be
great.
I
know
this.
It's
a
major
issue
of
the
concentration
of
those
types
of
houses
and
services,
so
in
Roxbury
and
and
some
of
the
the
neighborhoods
nearby
so
I'm
very
interested
to
know
that
and
I
think
that's
a
step
in
a
Direction,
so
we
can
resolve
and
talk
about
more
authentically,
the
homeless
community
and
the
situation.
We
have
that's
a
basically
a
humanitarian
crisis
right
now.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
Paul
I
can
I
can
speak
for
myself.
That
I
can't
put
a
number
on
how
many
of
those
types
of
homes
are
in
Georgia,
but
I
know
we
have
plenty
of
sober
houses
and
that
are
actually
registered,
sold
my
houses
and
in
Boston
we
have
more
services
for
the
homeless
and
and
people
that
are
suffering
through
addiction.
A
O
A
It's
a
Paul
if
it's
a
properly
run,
Sober
House
and
we've
gone
through
I
know
in
my
name,
but
I'll
speak
for
myself
and
my
neighborhoods
in
District
three.
We
had
an
awful
time
with
with
sober
houses
on
unlicensed
unregistered
sold
houses
in
the
in
the
operators,
where
straight
up
taking
advantage
of
the
people
that
were
in
there.
O
O
Of
course,
I
I
know
the
area
well
Pastor
Baker
too,
well
the
if,
if
we
can
get
this
conversation
moving
forward,
it's
it's
something.
That's
a
longer
conversation
than
this
and
and
maybe
come
together
with
some
people
from
the
homeless
advocacy
Community.
As
part
of
this
conversation,
it's
all
interconnected.
In
my
opinion
and
again
I
know:
you're
pressed
your
time
so.
A
L
But
when
we
look
at
the
in
when
we
look
at
the
intention
and
then
we
look
at
the
impact
of
that
intention,
there's
a
disconnect
impact
advisory
groups.
We
have
we
held
a
hearing
about
the
way
that
they're
structured
and
the
way
that
their
manifested
and
and
led,
and
what
it
feels
like
to
me
is
that
different
neighborhoods
have
different
ways
of
operating
and
I.
L
Think
that,
as
we
continue
to
have
these
conversations,
we
need
to
create
a
standard
of
how
we're
going
to
show
up
when
it
comes
to
building
across
the
entire
city
of
Boston,
because
we're
just
kicking
the
can
down
the
streets
and
I
I,
don't
know
I
I,
you
know
the
budget
season
is
here.
You
all
are
going
to
come
through
our
chamber
and
are
going
to
ask
us
for
X,
Y
and
Z
and
I.
L
Think
it's
important
for
you
all
to
know
that,
for
the
record,
when
y'all
come
through
here,
I'd
like
to
hear
your
plan,
your
vision,
your
goals,
your
outcomes,
your
benchmarks
and
your
accountability
index
as
it
relates
to
how
we're
going
to
build
in
the
city
of
Boston.
Those
are
the
things
that
I'm
going
to
be
looking
for
and
I
I
think
that
we
have
an
opportunity.
B
K
B
B
B
I
saw
a
beautiful
pop-up
businesses,
I
saw
a
beer
garden,
I
don't
drink,
but
that's
okay
I
appreciate
that
it's
there
I
saw
the
Arts,
I
saw
opportunities,
I
saw
economic,
Mobility,
I
saw
clean,
paved
streets,
I
saw
quality
development
quality,
not
Rinky,
Dink
boxes,
quality
development
and,
if
I
didn't
emphasize
that
enough
quality
and
so
I
just
appreciated
the
architecture.
I
appreciated
the
view.
I
thought
it
was
beautiful.
I
said:
oh,
my
what
a
dream
I
wish.
B
We
could
have
this
in
Roxbury
and
I
really
felt
that
and
a
moment
of
like
appreciation
as
well
as
sadness.
I
called
Nia
Beverly
she's
in
the
audience
and
I
said
I
I,
don't
know
if
I
should
cry
right
now,
I'm
so
sad,
because
the
city
has
advanced
in
some
areas
and
hasn't
in
others
and
I.
Think
I
need
to
re-emphasize
that
the
point
of
asking
for
a
conversation
for
a
time
for
a
pause
just
to
have
a
conversation,
is
that
we're
specifically
asking
you
to
see
how
to
see
us
as
whole
people.
B
The
city
has
very
reactionary
policies
if
people
yell
loud
enough
traditionally,
maybe
before
our
time
here.
But
if
you
yell
loud
enough,
then
you'll
get
a
little
bit
of
crumbs
and
then
you'll
be
quiet.
Then
you
go
away,
and
so
what
we're
asking,
though,
is
for
Quality
when
you
drive
from
Back
Bay
go
with
me
on
shamadev
and
you
look
at
the
parks
and
the
projects
and
the
developments.
What
do
you
see?
B
All
of
this
is
a
part
of
the
mistrust,
the
historic
disenfranchisement
and
yeah
we
should.
We
should
definitely
focus
on
the
optimism.
In
fact,
I
would
push
back
to
say
I'm
the
one
of
the
most
optimistic
people,
I
I,
dream,
big,
don't
I,
I,
think
about
all
of
the
possibilities
and
then
I
get
to
work,
and
then
the
community,
the
black
community
and
the
brown
community
in
Roxbury
and
the
white
Community
are
coming
together
and
saying.
We
deserve
to
look
to
be
beautiful,
to
be
treated
with
respect.
B
Our
emails
deserve
to
be
answered
to
we
want
a
conversation
and
we
don't
want
to
beg.
Why
should
we
have
to
cry
to
get
that
conversation
so
today
I
appreciate
your
responses,
it's
not
as
contentious
as
it
felt
when
universally
read
the
hearing.
The
brief
is
it
now
you
understand
hopefully
and
I'm
sure
you
understood
already,
because
your
decision
was
made
that
you
didn't
like
the
idea
of
that
moratorium.
B
I'm
not
going
to
mention
names.
People
called
me
and
said:
what
is
this,
but
the
point
is:
is
that
it
does
make
sense
all
of
it.
There's
nothing
false
here
and
to
Paul
on
the
public.
Testimony
Paul
Roxbury
has
the
highest
halfway
homes
in
the
city
of
Boston.
We
share
the
responsibility
of
the
highest
restricted
rentals.
We
share
the
brunt.
B
The
brunt
of
highest
recidivism
rate
in
Boston,
Roxbury
gets
it
all
and
where
this
district
7
is
the
second
poorest
District
and
even
don't
let
the
the
the
all
the
playgrounds
that's
going
to
be
renovated
fool.
You
need
more
than
just
playgrounds
and
I'm
tired
and
honestly
I
love
open
space,
but
I
don't
want
to
hear
about
another
open
space.
I
want
to
hear
about
quality
facilities.
I
want
to
hear
about
economic
drivers.
I
want
to
hear
about
revitalizing
our
business
corridors.
B
B
B
So
I
appreciate
my
the
panelists
today
very
well
said,
thank
you
for
sharing
your
experiences,
your
wisdom
and
for
partnering
with
us
and
I
look
forward
to
more
conversations.
My
office
will
be
connecting
with
yours
soon
and
with
Chief
Dylan.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
openness
and
continued
efforts.
Thank
you.
P
Hello,
councilor
Baker.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity.
Thank
you.
Counselor
Anderson,
I
appreciate
it
and
I'll
be
brief.
I
am
a
long
time.
Boston
resident
my
family
immigrated
here
from
Jamaica.
We
settled
in
Grove
Hall,
ultimately
moved
to
Hyde
Park,
integrated,
Hyde,
Park
and
then
I
had
the
opportunity
to
Circle
back
and
come
back
into.
P
Roxbury
I
purchased
a
home
on
hutching
street
that
I
am
currently
turning
into
Whole
Living
learning
and
working
space
for
young
women
of
color
and
non-binary
folks
interested
in
Tech
and
I
have
participated
in
the
Roxbury
master
plan
at
its
Inception
20.
You
know,
however,
many
years
ago
since
20
20
I
think
I
mean
it
was
many.
P
Many
years
ago,
I
was
a
part
of
the
original
charettes
and
to
have
it
come
into
an
actual
document,
and
then
that
be
the
guiding
document
that
we
refer
to,
but
then
it
the
the
problem
is,
it's
only
become
a
reference
document
right,
we're
not
holding
true
to
the
principles
that
that
are
in
that
document.
That
says
the
development
should
be
led
by
the
community
and
that
the
systems
and
the
powers
that
be
would
defer
to
the
community
to
lead
development
and
have
development
be
in
a
comprehensive
way
right.
So
it's
not
haphazard.
P
It's
not
scattered,
it
does
not
accelerate
gentrification,
but
it
Roots
the
power
and
the
equity
and
provides
equity
for
the
community
to
to
build
wealth,
to
self-determine
how
our
community
should
grow
and
I
I
believe
that
a
moratorium
will
give
us
the
opportunity
to
reset
it's
a
reset
button.
It
doesn't
mean
that
we
are
not
for
development,
because
we
want
to
see
cranes
and
development
and
and
opportunity,
and
all
that
that
brings
happen
in
our
community,
but
we
want
it
to
be
done
in
an
equitable
way.
P
If
Roxbury
has
has
experienced
the
most
The
Accelerated
gentrification
that
it
that
it
currently
is
and
undergoing,
then
that
is
to
tell
you
that
there
is
a
problem
right.
So
then
you
should
pause,
because
that,
if
the
efforts
that
you
put
forth
have
not
hindered
or
slowed
down
the
gentrification,
then
we're
doing
something
wrong.
P
While
we
went
through
urban
renewal,
while
we
have
sat
through
the
violence,
while
we
have
sat
through
now
the
community
in
this
period
of
Renaissance,
why
should
community
members
not
be
able
to
benefit
from
that,
and
so
the
data,
as
as
one
of
the
counselors
mentioned,
is
already
telling
us
what
we
need
to
know
that
we
know
that
we
are
experiencing
High
rates
of
gentrification
High
rates
of
small
businesses
moving
out
or
being
closed
down.
The
community
is
saying
no.
We
need
to
put
a
pause
on
this
and
do
some
things
differently.
P
The
data
is
already
proven
that
out
so
I
would
just
ask
and
humbly
ask
that
we
really
look
at
this
and
say:
okay,
we
need
to
press
a
reset
button
and
take
a
second
look
at
the
practices
and
the
policies
that
we
have
in
place
and
they're,
not
not
addressing
the
needs
and
the
immediate
needs
of
the
community.
And
how
can
we
then
do
some
things
differently,
so
I
appreciate
your
time.
Thank
you.
I
will
continue
to
do
my
work
and
continue
to
be
an
advocate
for
this
and
I.
P
A
You
Bridget
and
I'm
just
going
to
say
a
quick
closing
statement.
I
thought
this
was
a
good
hearing.
Today
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
around
Roxbury
planning
as
a
whole,
larger
planning.
What
I
found
successful
in
my
district
of
the
other,
when
you
know
smaller
areas
of
planning,
dot
block
was
five
acres.
The
the
Dorchester
Bay
City
was
a
big
parcel.
A
25
acres
like
it,
because
if
you're
planning
everything
and
thinking
that
you're
going
to
be
able
to
use
that
as
a
document,
I
think
it
needs
to
be
larger
planning
with
the
ability
and
the
flexibility
to
go
into
those
small
Apostles,
especially
when
they're
compiled
and
if
they're
City
Parcels.
How
are
we
I
mean?
Everybody
here
is
absolutely
right.
How
are
we
going
to
as
the
city
make
sure
those
those
Parcels,
especially
the
ones
that
are
adjoining?
A
How
are
we
going
to
develop
something
that
has
and
and
it's
a
it's
a
when
you
talk
about
enrichment
in
your
neighborhood?
Everybody
wants
us
on
bikes
and
skateboards
and
everything
else.
If
you
don't
have
a
grocery
store,
two
minutes
from
your
house
or
if
you
don't
have
those
amenities
that
you
need
that
10-minute
neighborhood
or
that
18
10
minute
walkable
neighborhood
or
that
18-hour
neighborhood,
where
there's
places
you
can
get
coffee
people
are
working
there.
A
It's
Street,
Life
street
life,
Street
Life
adds
to
safer
environments,
it
adds
to
connections
on
on
the
street
and
less
need
for
police.
Those
are
my
thoughts.
We
talked
about
rezoning
a
little
bit
to
me
when,
when
I
hear
people
talk
about,
we
need
to
rezone
the
whole
city.
It
scares
the
death
out
of
me
because
that
single
family
is
now
going
to
become
nine
units
and
guess
who
doesn't
have
a
say,
the
council
from
district
7
and
the
council
from
District
three.
A
There
was
another
point
that
I
want
the
cdc's
I
think
we
need
to.
Yes,
they
helped
us
out
in
in
times
of
of
trouble,
but
I
think
we
need
to
move
Beyond
them
to
some
degree
and
go
to
the
private
market
and
have
private
developers.
I
know
that's
like
dirty
words
around
here
private
developers,
but
if
the
private
developers
are
trained
in
what
they're
supposed
to
do
giving
back
to
the
communities
conscious
capitalism
give
the
communities
what
they
want.
A
It's
not
going
to
happen
without
private
money,
not
going
to
happen
without
private
money
and
I
and
I
also
have
to
push
back
on
that.
It's
the
city's
role
to
create
wealth
in
neighborhoods.
It's
a
city's
role
to
provide
clean
water,
sewage,
clean
streets,
schools
and
and
safety.
That's
what
I
think
I'm
a
little
up
and
down
on
us
providing
generational
wealth
through
housing,
I
think
it's!
It
has
to
be
done,
different
ways:
job
training,
that's
how
we're
gonna!
That's
how
we're
gonna
build
communities.
Things
like
that
I've
gone
on
enough!