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Docket #0352 - Petition of A Yankee Line, for a license to operate motor vehicles for the carriage of passengers for hire over certain streets in Boston
A
Hey
counselor
hi
candace,
I'm
I'm
probably
going
to
start
it's
almost
10
past
one.
A
So
I'm
going
to
start
without
the
administration
panelists.
I
don't.
I
don't
want
to
keep
people
waiting.
Okay,
okay,
perfect,
we're
live
and
we're
recording
on
all
devices.
So
whenever
you're
ready
to
start,
you
have
the
go.
A
A
I
am
joined
at
this
time
by
my
colleague
city
council
of
kenzie
bark.
This
hearing
is
being
recorded
and
live
streamed
at
boston.gov
city
council
dash
tv.
It
will
be
rebroadcast
on
xfinity
channel
8,
rcn
channel
82,
82
fios
channel
962
the
zoom
length
to
provide
public
testimony
for
this
hearing
can
be
found
by
emailing
juan.lopez
boston.gov.
A
Please
make
sure
that
your
zoom
handle
is
your
full
name
when
you
are
called,
please
state
your
name
in
affiliation,
residence
and
limit
your
comments
to
two
minutes
to
ensure
that
all
comments
and
concerns
can
be
heard.
If
you
are
unable
to
provide
testimony
today,
you
may
also
submit
written
testimony
or
a
two-minute
video
for
our
record
by
emailing
the
committee
at
ccc
dot
cns
at
boston.gov
or
filling
out
the
form
on
our
website
within
48
hours.
A
B
I'm
fine
to
go
right
to
the
petitioner.
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
chairman,.
A
Thank
you,
council
book
at
this
time,
mike
costa,
who
was
with
yankee
line,
I'd
like
to
offer
you
the
opportunity
to
provide
an
opening
statement,
explain
the
proposal
and
after
that
we'll
have
a
q,
a
and
or
testimony
also
from
city
of
boston
officials,
mike
costa,
from
yankee
line.
C
Good
afternoon
councilor
flynn,
council
block
and
everybody
else
on
the
call
thank
you
for
joining
so
just
a
real,
quick
synopsis
in
our
company,
so
we're
based
in
boston
based
in
south
boston,
specifically
for
over
40
years.
C
Most
of
what
we
do
is
private
transportation
for
companies
that
are
having
events
in
the
city
meetings,
conventions,
private
tour
companies.
Most
of
interaction
is
actually
somebody
that
is
hiring
our
vehicle
to
then
provide
a
tour
or
a
dinner
or
some
other
connection
between
hotel
and
convention
center
or
to
another
city.
C
This
is
a
little
bit
unique
in
the
sense
that
we
have
not
in
the
past,
provided
any
direct
consumer
option,
so
we
have
in
most
cases
we
are
hired
by
somebody
else,
we're
in
a
b
to
b
interaction
versus
a
b
to
c
direct
with
the
consumer.
This.
This
is
what
we're
looking
at
right
now
is
providing
a
direct
consumer
option
here,
which
is
why
we're
we're
here
so
we're.
We
are
full
disclosure.
We
are
approved
by
the
department
of
transportation,
the
department
of
defense.
C
They
are
our
client
of
ours,
moving
in
the
military.
Quite
often,
in
addition
to
massachusetts,
department
of
public
utilities,
transportation
oversight,
division
that
allows
us
to
provide
chartered
transportation
for
b2b
interactions
in
the
state
of
massachusetts,
as
well
as
the
united
states
and
for
the
military
as
well.
C
The
the
proposal
that
we're
looking
at
right
now
is
to
potentially
run
a
service
to
the
south
shore,
utilizing
a
location
right
off
of
congress
street
313
congress
street,
which
is
opposite
to
the
children's
museum
facing
east
on
congress
street,
where
we're
looking
at
potentially
running
a
service,
that
is
a
hybrid
commuter,
slash,
leisure
option
to
provide
connection
and
accessibility
for
the
seaport
district
as
well
as
the
south
shore.
C
This
will
have
specific,
scheduled
departures,
we're
looking
at
between
5
and
10
departures,
maximum
per
day
vehicles
that
will
be
accommodating.
This
would
be
ada
accessible
motor
coaches.
They
are
running
clean
diesel
engine
technology
with
with
a
def
solution
instead
of
oil,
which
kind
of
makes
them
a
little
bit
cleaner.
C
C
Our
the
the
priority
would
be
to
not
have
any
vehicles
there
for
more
time
than
they
are
loading
passengers,
so
they're
pulling
up
they're
loading
and
they're,
leaving
no
staging
of
vehicles,
no
idling
of
vehicles
pulling
up
leaving
the
reason
why,
ideally,
we
would
have
liked
to
be
in
seoul
station.
Unfortunately,
cell
station,
even
with
covet
at
this
moment,
is
at
capacity.
There
is
a
plan
to
expand
the
south
station
bus
terminal
with
the
air
rights
over
south
station,
which
is
in
progress.
However,
that
is
not
until
late
22
early
23.
C
C
C
It
is
a
very
underutilized
spot
because
there
is
no
regular
tour
route
that
currently
travels
on
that
location.
There
was
an
intermittent
connection
for
old
town
trolley,
and
that
was
for
a
seaport
connection
that
provided
accessibility
for
their
primary
route
so
every
hour,
so
a
trolley
would
hit
that
location,
pick
up
a
limited
amount
of
people
and
then
continue
to
connect
with
their
primary
route,
which
is
a
jittery,
approved
tour
route
of
boston.
C
That's
all
I
have
at
this
time.
Our
main
goal
here
is
really
we're:
we're
a
we're,
an
effective
business
by
covert
right
now,
we're
looking
to
pivot
to
provide
a
new
service,
a
direct
to
consumer
service.
In
lieu
of
there,
not
being
as
many
international
tourists
or
tourists
in
general,
we're
looking
to
see
if
we
can
provide
this
option
to
not
only
provide
that
solution
for
capturing
a
portion
of
business
that
we
don't
currently
offer,
but
also
to
increase
accessibility
for
this
area
that
doesn't
currently
have
any
direct
option.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
A
A
We
are
also
joined
now
by
ed
hesford
from
the
boston
transportation
department.
He's
a
supervising
traffic
engineer
yeah.
Would
you
like
to
open
up
with
a
opening
statement.
D
Yes,
we
we
received
the
application
for
the
proponent
for
the
proposed
routing
the
routing
in
the
department's
opinion.
As
of
right
now
it
seems
very
feasible
and
very
in
a
innovative.
You
know,
so
you
know
that.
However,
the
only
concern
right
now
that
we
have
is
the
sighting
of
the
actual
stop.
D
C
The
stock
we
were
originally
looking
at
ed
was
was
intended
to
be
on
congress
right
in
front
of
313
congress.
We
viewed
that
as
kind
of
the
quieter
of
the
two
in
lieu
of
dorchester
street,
between
congress
and
summer
street,
however,
where
either
of
them
is
in
the
same
area,
if
there's
a
preference
on
on
behalf
of
btds
and
we're
we're
more
than
happy
to
to
adjust
our
plans
for
sure.
D
Yep
no,
I
appreciate
that
in
the
313
is
that
on
the
the
children's
museum
side,
where
the
mbta
bus
stop
is.
C
No,
it's
opposite.
It
is
on
the
eastbound
side
of
congress.
313
is
kind
of
has
an
archway
on
the
building.
I
believe
that
grand
circle
travel
occupied
the
building,
but
it
is
opposite.
The
hood
children's
side,
it's
facing
east.
D
D
I
mean
with
the
contingency
that
obviously
you're
working
to
get
the
bus
operations
within
south
station
that
that
that
ultimately,
is
what
we
want
to
see,
because
we,
you
know
because
of
the
the
you
know,
how
many
people
and
what
what
folks
are
looking
for
on
street
at
these
days
being
a
bike
lane
being
a
bus
lane
outdoor
cafes,
we're
really
tied
up
with
you
know,
requests
for
curb
space,
so
bus
operation
should
be
in
a
bus
station.
That's
what
we're
looking
at.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
ed
mike.
Can
you
I
just
want
to
do
you
ever?
Do
you
have
the
option
of
sharing
us
the
a
photo
of
the
actual
two
sites
you're
recommending
just
so,
we
see
it
on
screen.
C
B
C
Okay,
I
will
30
30
seconds
right
here
and
I'll
go
ahead
and
do
that.
Okay,.
A
I
don't
yes,
it
is
yes,
it
is.
C
Okay,
so
this
is
313
congress
again
to
mr
and
hestford's
point.
This
is
this:
is
one
of
the
two
locations
this
one
austin
being
a
transportation
department
view
this
as
the
the
least
currently
utilized
location
in
this
section?
It
is.
This
is
a
it
says,
bus
on
the
stop.
However,
there
is
no
mbta
bus
stop
here.
C
It
is
really
intended
for
tour
buses
only
and
it
is
not
a
very
frequented
tour
bus
location,
so
we're
thinking
that,
even
even
if
tour
buses
were
to
return
back
to
their
normal
frequency
of
visitation
that
this
would
still
be
a
fairly
viable
option.
This
is
looking
east
on
congress
street.
This
is
the
children's
museum.
This
is
the
congress
street
bridge
if
you
travel
further
west
on
congress
street
past
the
past,
the
tea
party
museum
to
dorchester
ave.
C
This
is
the
location
that
mr
hesford
was
speaking
of,
which
is
dorchester
ave
from
so
vehicles
would
travel
from
summer
street,
which
is
in
the
far
side
of
the
screen,
take
a
right
on
dorchester,
rav
and
then
pick
up
on
this
curb
space
right
here.
Vehicles
will
be
facing
the
conga
street
bridge
at
this
intersection.
Here
dropping
off
at
the
corner.
This
area
is
ideal,
however,
it's
actually
more
ideal
based
on
the
proximity
to
cell
station.
C
However,
the
issue
with
this
location
that
we
saw
is
that
it
is
fairly
busy
during
rush
hour,
because
this
is
a
location
that
shuttle
vehicles
are
picking
up
to
connect
to
seaport
district
employees,
employers,
so
the
the
four-point
channel
vertex
has
a
shuttle.
Pricewaterhousecoopers,
I
believe,
has
a
shuttle
as
well
down
by
blackhawk
and
cruise
trimmer,
there's
also
a
shuttle
as
well.
So
so
we
viewed
this
as
potentially
us
getting
in
the
way
with
the
curb
space
that's
already
busy.
C
However,
if
there's
a
preference
for
us
to
be
here
versus
313
congress
street,
we're
we're
more
than
willing
to
make
it
happen,
and
I
think
that
one
thing
I
want
to
key
in
on
is
that
these
vehicles
are
not
going
to
be
there
for
more
than
the
time
that
it
takes
to
load
passengers,
whether
it
be
a
person
that
is
in
a
wheelchair
or
a
scooter
or
passenger.
That
is
simply
a
lighting
or
boarding
on
on
foot,
and
there
is.
There
is
pedestrian
access
here
to
cross
both
sides.
C
If
somebody's
across
the
street,
we
would
direct
anybody
that
is
coming
from
cell
station
on
either
side.
Obviously,
they'd
be
more
on
the
on
the
southern
side
of
the
road
here,
if
they're
coming
from
south
station
but
they're
crossing
here,
it's
a
pretty
clearly
marked
crosswalk.
C
C
A
But
you're
not
recommending
across
the
street
on
the
right
next
to
the
children's
museum
itself
is
that
right.
C
That's
correct:
no,
we're
not
recommending
that
simply
because
it
is
a
number
four.
I
don't
believe,
there's
a
sign
on
it,
but
there
is
a
number
four
mbta
bus
that
picks
up
on
that
side.
Plus
that
area
is,
is
congested
as
it
is
with
the
general
pedestrian
traffic
for
the
children
museum
on
a
busy
day.
So
we
wouldn't
want
to
impact
that.
D
So
we,
the
transportation
department,
has
not
put
in
writing
as
of
yet
the
the
rooting
we're
not
opposed
to
what
the
routing
is.
However,
the
the
stop
location
needs
to
be
discussed
further
and
how
we're
going
to
cite
that
if,
in
fact,
that's
the
way
we're
going
to
go
so
you
know
we
have
to
look
at
our
current
licensees
for
sightseeing.
D
You
know
obviously
the
surrounding
of
butters,
so
we
need
to
you,
know
basically
reach
out
and
do
some
more
homework
on
citing
the
actual
stop
the
route
itself.
We've
reviewed,
that's
not
an
issue.
It's
going
to
be
the
stop.
A
Okay,
that's
that's
good
to
know.
Thank
you
ed,
so
there's
more
work
that
we
have
to.
We
still
have
to
do.
This
is
kind
of
an
initial
step
that
we
are
taking,
but
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
outstanding
work.
We
are
doing
hopefully
over
the
next
couple
weeks
and
a
couple
months,
but
I
appreciate
that
response
said.
I
also
wanted
to
recognize
and
acknowledge
ken
burcett
who's,
also
here
helping
mike
mike
koster
as
well.
A
A
A
Mike,
could
you
explain
your
background?
I
I
know
you
highlighted
it
at
the
beginning,
but
for
the
record,
can
you
explain
your
background
in
any
experience
in
this
area
of
transportation
and
again
I
know
I
had
a
conversation
with
you
over
the
weekend
and
just
wanted
to
acknowledge
that
for
the
record
as
well.
C
Yes,
no
appreciate
it
counselor,
so
so
I
have
been
in
this
industry
a
good
part
of
my
life.
Our
company
is
based
in
south
boston,
we're
we're
40
years,
young
we've
been
in
south
boston
for
30
of
those
40
years,
moving
over
from
austin
to
brighton.
C
At
the
beginning
of
the
first
40
before
I
was
born,
and
we
we
take
pride
in
being
a
part
of
the
community
where
we
work
with
castle
island
association
to
provide
trips,
we're
in
the
transportation
business
and
we're
also
in
the
in
the
tourism
business,
we're
taking
people
to
locations
to
explore
other
areas
and
also
bringing
people
to
this
area
to
explore
this
area,
whether
it
be
a
convention,
a
museum
or
a
our
sox
game.
So
we
we.
C
C
So
so
this
is
kind
of
a
unique
thing
where
we're
not
being
we're
not
necessarily
being
hired
by
a
customer
to
provide
transportation
on
behalf
of
them,
whether
it's
a
tour
operator
or
our
public
entity
or
the
government.
C
We're
in
this
case
looking
to
provide
a
direct
consumer
option.
So
we're
looking
to
use
our
the
same
application
of
what
we
do,
which
is
providing
safe,
reliable
transportation,
we're
approved
by
the
dot,
as
well
as
dpu
for
providing
transportation
on
many
different
levels,
between
ada
accessibility
to
general,
safe
operation.
A
Thank
you
mike.
I
have.
I
have
about
seven
or
eight
more
questions,
but
before
I
do
that,
I
wanted
to
give
council
block
an
opportunity
to
ask
questions
just
because
I'm
going
to
be
here
for
a
while,
and
I
I
wanted
to
give
council
bach
an
opportunity
to
ask
her
questions
now,
instead
of
instead
of
waiting,
so
council
bloc,
I'm
going
to
be
here
for
a
while,
but
I
wanted
to
give
you
an
opportunity
to
ask
questions
that
you
might
have
and
then
I'll
go
back
to
my
questions.
B
Great,
thank
you
so
much,
mr
chairman.
I
I
just
wanted
to
ask
ed
this
is
this
is
maybe
for
you
and
btd,
but
you
know
in
terms
of
that
proviso,
about
getting
this
use.
Ultimately,
within
the
bus
station
and
south
station
I
mean
I'm
I'm
inclined
to
like.
I
think
you
know,
mike's
made
a
good
pitch
for
why
this
is
a
spot,
that's
underutilized
and
it's
a
chance.
We
all
want
to
see
people
coming
into
the
city
and
leaving
the
city
by
bus
instead
of
still
s
single
vehicle
trip.
B
So
I
think
we
have
an
interest,
but
I
also
think
that,
like
you
know,
temporary
solutions
like
this
can
can
very
quickly
kind
of
you
know
you
blink
in
a
decade
passes
and
it
becomes
the
permanent
solution
and,
as
ed
alluded
to
you
know,
we've
got
more
and
more
competition
for
curb
space
in
the
city,
and
so
I'm
just
wondering
ed.
If
you
could
speak
to,
if
there's
like,
are
these
licenses
for
a
time
limited
period
of
time?
B
D
Think
counselor
very
good
question.
I
think
you
know,
through
the
license,
that's
granted
through
the
city
council,
with
recommendations
from
both
captain
gog
and
myself
being
from
hackney.
I
think
when
the
the
license
is
actually
granted
that
there
be
a
provisio
included
in
that
granting
license.
With
that
caveat
that
it
is
a
temporary.
You
know
situation
until
that
space
becomes
available
at
the
south
station
transportation
center.
So
there
is
ways
to
insert
that
language
within
the
grant
and
the
license.
B
Great
so
then
I
guess,
mr
chairman,
I
would
just
urge
that
whatever
we,
whatever
action,
we
take
on
this
as
a
council
kind
of
be
in
that
context,
because
you
know,
I
think
I
I
know
things
are
slow,
slow,
moving,
sometimes
on
the
south
station
side,
and-
and
I
hear
you
on
wanting
to
start
this
service
up
asap
mike
and
we're
all
we're
all
cognizant
of
trying
to
create.
B
You
know
local
tourism
opportunities
as
we
kind
of
move
through
an
unsettled
period,
but
but
I
do
think
I
I
would
want
us
to
kind
of
keep
that
that
goal
of
of
getting
it
into
the
station
kind
of
top
of
mind,
because,
obviously,
for
us
it's
like
there's,
there
might
be
one
somewhat
underutilized
bus
stop.
But
you
know
everybody
if
south
station
doesn't
deal
with
its
own
pressures
by
expanding
we're,
just
going
to
see
more
and
more
companies
in
a
position
like
yours.
B
Looking
for
looking
to
do
this
on
the
public
curb
space-
and
you
know
I
think
there
are
places
I
think
about
new
york
city,
where
you
catch
the
buses
to
boston.
It's
kind
of
a
vast
sort
of
port
authority
style
zone.
This
is
set
right,
separate
from
the
official
stations,
but
but
we
don't
we
don't
really.
B
We
can't
treat
the
seaport
that
way
right.
It's
become
a
densely
settled
district,
and
so
I
just
think
we
have
to
be
careful
that
we
don't
create
a
precedent
here
where
we,
where
we
do
a
ton
more
of
this.
So
that
would
be
my
my
main
caveat.
Mr
chairman,
I
think
I
appreciated
the
presentation
and-
and
I
understand
the
logic
of
the
site-
I
guess
the
only
question
would
be
a
mic
in
terms
of
root.
B
I
mean
it
certainly
seemed
to
me,
like
the
that,
the
just
from
visually
that
the
dorchester
ave
spot
would
be
more
likely
to
kind
of
obstruct
traffic,
and
it
also
seemed
like
you'd
have
to
use
summer
street
to
get
there
is
that
right?
B
I
wondered
if
you
could
speak
to
us
just
a
little
bit
about
the
route,
since
this
is
a
bus.
That's
going
in
and
coming
out
of
the
city
like
if
you're
at
the
313
congress
stop
like.
What's
the
what's
the
immediate
route
in
and
out.
C
So
yes
counselor,
so
there
would
be
travel
from
summer
street
to
dorchester
ave
to
take
a
ride
on
dorchester
ave
to
then
take
a
right
on
to
congress
street
in
either
application.
However,
the
bus
itself
would
become
buses
itself
would
be
coming
to
and
from
that
location
by
hall
road
bypass
road,
so
they
wouldn't
necessarily
be
traveling
at
the
intersection
of
summer
and
atlantic
which,
where,
where
everything
kind
of
comes
together
in
the
worst
way,
there.
B
I
see
so
they're
they're
going
to
take
that
bypass
and-
and
forgive
me,
I'm
not
that
familiar
with
how
that
is
regulated.
Is
it
just
for
bus
travel
or.
C
It's
had
its
it's
it's
in
conflict.
At
the
moment,
it's
it
was
originally
for
commercial
traffic
intended
for
access
to
the
port
for
trucks
and
and
buses
all
commercial
vehicles.
C
I
believe
right
now,
there's
a
hybrid
option
at
hesford
probably
has
a
better
handle
on
this,
but
there's
a
hybrid
option
right
now,
where
it
allows
for
cars,
personal
occupancy
vehicles
to
come
from
93
into
the
seaport
district,
but
not
from
the
sequel
district
to
93..
C
B
Got
it
okay
and
then,
in
terms
of
you
know,
people
people
would
just
be
standing
there
in
front
of
313
congress.
You're,
not
you're,
not
at
you're,
not
seeking
permission
to
put
up
a
shelter
or
anything
like
that.
C
No,
no,
no,
not
seeking
permission
to
put
a
shelter
or
anything
anybody
that's
showing
up
here
has
a
ticket.
That's
confirmed
for
this
departure,
they're,
not
necessarily
looking
to
step
up
and
hit
cash
on
the
street.
It's
a
controlled
environment.
B
And
what?
How
do
you
guys
handle
your
shift
changes
for
something
like
this,
and
I
asked
that
because
in
my
experience
the
the
times
when
a
bus
is
idling
in
a
place
that
it
doesn't
normally
mean
to
be
idling
for
a
long
period
of
time
have
to
do
with
one
driver
goes
off
shift
and
the
other
driver
is
late
getting
on
shift.
So
I'm
just
wondering
if
that's
going
to
happen
at
this
site
or
not.
C
No,
so
we
do
have
the
the
luxury
to
our
our
offices.
Our
terminal
is
in
south
boston
right
in
the
corner
of
370
west
first
street,
so
first
street
in
papua's
way,
so
we
would
utilize
our
terminal
there
to
make
sure
we're
not
doing
that
there
that's.
This
is
where
our
drivers
report
they
take
transit
here
and
then.
B
C
B
Got
it
great,
so
no
one's
going
to
be
you're
not
going
to
have
drivers
changing
shift
at
that
spot,
correct?
Okay,
I
I
think
those
are.
I
think
those
are
my
main
questions.
Yeah.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
for
the
presentation
and
and
thanks,
mr
chair
and
and
ed
for
being
on.
I,
like
I
said,
mr
chairman.
I
just
think
we
should
make
sure
to
attach
that
proviso
around
kind
of
the
long-term
south
station
solution.
So
thanks.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Council
block.
I
also
want
to
acknowledge.
Captain
goggin
is
on
with
us
from
the
boston
police.
Before
I
continue
with
my
questions,
captain
grogan
do
you
want
to
weigh
in
at
all
before?
I
continue.
E
Counselors
I
just
want
to
apologize
for
the
technical
difficulties,
I
guess
being
a
a
relic
makes
these
things
more
difficult
for
a
fellow
like
myself,
but
I
wasn't
that
I
was
late.
It
was
just
not
for
a
lack
of
effort.
It
was
that
I
needed
to
call
in
a
whole
staff
to
get
me
up
and
running.
So
I
apologize
and
I
missed
most
of
the
presentation
on
yankee
lines,
but
I
do
appreciate
you
calling
me
for
input.
The
boston
police
are
always
concerned
about.
E
You
know
the
public
safety
of
pedestrians
and
riders,
and
so
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
just
throw
that
out
there.
I
heard
some
remarks
mentioned
about
south
station,
possibly
being
a
solution
in
the
future,
and
that's
that
was
what
we
wanted
to
discuss
with.
You
is
that
you
know
I
mean.
Obviously
that
would
be
the
ideal.
The
problem
may
not
be
yankee
lines
themselves,
but
the
problem
may
be
numerous
other
jitneys
that
aren't
coming
to
you
for
licenses
and
on
coming.
E
You
know
to
the
city
council
as
they
should
be
in
a
parking
all
over
the
you
know,
various
areas
of
the
city
and
that's
what
concerns
us.
So
there
are
spots
that
are
more
difficult
than
others
and
I'm
sure
if,
if
copley
square
was
mentioned,
that
that's
really
you
know
too
populated
a
spot
for
it.
I
heard
mr
costa
mentioned
that
right
now,
they're
at
west,
first
in
papua's
way
and
again,
if
if
they
have
a
off
street
spot
there,
I
don't.
E
I
don't
know
what
the
feelings
of
the
nearby
residents
are,
but
off
street
would
be
something
less
of
a
problem
to
the
boston
police.
As
far
as
public
safety
mata
goes
anything
on
the
street.
Really
cons
worries
us.
So
that's
it
in
a
nutshell.
After
you
know
missing
most
of
it.
I
don't
want
to
go
on
other
than
to
say
that,
and
I
again
my
apologies
to
your
counselors,
but
I
appreciate
the
time
you've
given
me.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Captain
goggin,
we
appreciate
you
being
on
you've,
been
very
responsive
and
it's
good
to
work
with
you
and
your
team,
and
you
guys
are
very
professional.
Thank
you.
Captain
goggin.
A
So
mike
I'm
just
going
to
continue
asking
some
some
of
these
questions,
experience
and
training
for
the
drivers
and
other
employees.
Can
you
talk
about
that?
Please.
C
Sure
so
we
have
a
two-part
training
program.
Training
is
focused
one
part
on
safety,
other
part
and
customer
service.
The
safety
element
is
really
driven
by
an
overreaching
focus
on
the
department
of
transportation
requirements
which
includes
drug
screening.
It
includes
driver
training
and
includes
requiring
drivers
to
have
a
cdl
license
in
good
standing.
C
C
We
then
pull
motor
vehicle
records,
at
least
every
month,
sometimes
more
frequently
for
every
individual,
so
that
if
somebody
is
hired
for
us
and
they
have
an
implication
when
they're
not
driving
for
us
to
driving
their
personal
vehicle
or
something
else
like
that,
we
are
able
to
capture
that
internally.
We
also
have
a
third
party
that
reviews
that
system
to
make
sure
that
that's
followed
through
as
well.
We
have
the
initial
drug
testing.
C
We
have
a
quarterly
random
drug
testing
as
well,
so
so
that
we're
doing
making
sure
that
an
individual
is
clean
and
in
good
health
condition
and
then
we're
making
sure
that
that
sustains
itself
as
we
go
forward
in
addition
to
the
drug
screening,
there's
a
requirement
of
a
medical
certificate,
so
a
card
that
is
given
to
them
by
by
a
doctor
that
approves
that
this
individual
is
safe
to
drive
with
dot
requirements.
So
there's
a
lifting
requirement,
there's
a
blood
pressure
requirement,
there's
a
diabetes
requirement,
making
sure
that
an
individual
is
safe.
C
It's
he's
clean
and
he's
and
he's
a
healthy
enough
condition
to
actually
perform
his
job.
On
the
customer
service
side,
we
focus
on
ada
accessibility.
All
these
vehicles
are
ada
accessible
as
and
and
then
the
general
operation
of
the
vehicle
we're
transporting
people,
we're
not
transporting
lettuce
or
boxes
so
making
sure
we
know
how
to
deal
with
certain
situations
they
arise
is
critical.
A
A
A
C
That's
a
good
question
and
it's
an
especially
interesting
question
with
the
the
changing
of
laws
on
legalization
of
certain
drugs.
C
Ultimately,
right
now
we
defer
to
the
department
of
transportation
the
federal
guidelines
which,
regardless
of
state
guidelines
of
what
may
be
legal
or
what
may
be
illegal
on
recreational
marijuana,
which
is
now
a
different
environment
for
our
industry,
d.o.t
supersedes
that
as
far
as
how
we
do
our
testing.
So
if
anybody
has
any
habituation
in
their
system
at
all,
that
is
automatically
a
disqualification
for
number
one
being
hired.
C
If
you
test
positive,
while
you're
employed
employed
for
us
or
for
that
matter,
any
dot
approved,
carrier
you're
coming
off
the
road
immediately
and
you
go
into
counseling
and
rehab
in
order
to
retain
or
re-establish
your
position.
C
We
also
have
traffic
staff
that
are
trained
to
look
at
different
signals,
eye
dilation
general
perception
of
the
individual,
how
they,
how
they're
acting
how
they're
responding
we
meet
each
one
of
our
staff
members
at
the
start
of
their
shift
in
person
each
day
and
that
person
that's
meeting
that
individual
each
day
is
trained
to
recognize
certain
key
factors
that
if
there
is
an
issue
there,
then
there's
there's
a
next
trickle-down
step.
That
happens
bottom
line,
it's
very
difficult
to
track.
C
When
somebody
does
have
something
like
this,
because
you
can
only
test
somebody
so
many
times.
C
By
having
by
having
the
random
element
in
place
combined
with
viewing
the
individual
in
person
as
well
as
really
just
vetting
out
ahead
of
time,
the
individuals
that
you're
hiring
usually
somebody's
history
is
indicative
of
their
future.
So
if
somebody
has
a
bad
history,
then
they're
potentially
going
to
have
a
not
a
good
career
with
our
company.
So
so
we
look
at
those
traits
and
we
we
do
our
best
to
get
ahead
of
that.
So
we
don't
have
any
issues
like
that.
C
Passengers
we
set
up
a
dedicated
email
that
is,
is
receptive
to
any
passenger.
That
has
any
issues.
We
are
24-hour
operations,
so
they
can
feel
free
to
pick
up.
The
call
pick
up
the
phone
and
call
us
at
any
time-
and
we
are
active
on
social
media
to
capture
that
as
well.
A
Thank
you,
and
this
is
going
back
if
there's
one
issue
that
I've
focused
more
on
over
the
last
three
years.
It's
it's
pedestrian
safety,
it's
a
critical
issue
for
me
and
for
my
constituents
so
like
like
captain
and
like
like
ed.
I
take
that
issue
very
seriously
as
well,
so.
A
So
so
you
will
have
some
follow-up
conversations
with
ed
and
about
establishing
and
recommending
a
potential
site,
but
but
before
you
do
that,
tell
me
about
the
the
outreach
you've
done
with
the
residents
with
the
neighborhood
with
the
civic
associations.
C
So
we
have
reached
out
to,
albeit
on
friday,
but
I
have
reached
out
to
the
four
point,
neighborhood
association,
to
communicate
our
intention
and
and
be
responsive
to
any
feedback
that
they
receive.
C
We
are
a
member
of
the
community
ourselves,
so
we
can
definitely
continue
that
conversation
with
with
the
stakeholders
and
south
boston
in
general.
It's
kind
of
an
odd
location
where
it's
bridging
downtown
and
four
point,
but
four
point:
I
would
view
as
the
primary
stakeholder
to
make
sure
that
they're
in
agreement
with
us.
A
Yeah,
that's
exactly
right,
it'd
be
four
point
neighborhood
association
and
they
meet
they
meet
frequently
and
if
you
need
to
be
part
of
their
official
agenda,
please
let
me
know
and
I'll
make
sure
that
you
will
be
part
of
the
agenda.
I'll,
recommend
it
and
ask
for
you.
A
Besides,
besides
the
city
of
boston,
do
you
need
any
other
anyone
else
to
sign
off
on
this?
Is
there
any
state
state
agency
that
needs
to
be
part
of
this
discussion.
C
So
we
are
approved
by
the
department
of
public
utilities,
transportation
oversight,
as
well
as
the
department
of
transportation.
This
is
viewed
as
a
interstate
run,
believe
it
or
not,
because
so
it's
really
viewed
as
a
department
of
transportation
oversight
route
because
it
connects
to
an
inner
city
connection
which
is
logan
airport
logan
airport
provides
access
to
other
states,
so
that
is
then
determined
an
inner
city
route.
C
Yes,
absolutely
roughly
just
to
provide
some
perspective
of
looking
at
every
other
hour
from
8
am
until
6
pm
with
the
potential
for
it
to
flex.
If
there's
demand,
but
that's
at
least
the
initial
intention.
A
C
So
it's
dynamic
ticket
pricing,
so
prices
range
from
20
to
50
one
way,
depending
on
how
far
the
individual
is
traveling
the
end.
What
time
of
the
day
they're
traveling
the
tickets
will
be
all
online
it'll
be
a
online
sales.
Only
no
cash
fare
service.
C
A
A
So
can
mike,
can
you
explain
what
type
of
buses
these
are
for
people
that
may
not
understand
the
the
different
types
or
sizes
of
buses?
Can
you
give
us
an
overview
of
of
this
and
explain
the
physical
dimensions
of
the
bus.
C
Sure,
no
it's
a
it's
important
to
differentiate
them
because
they
are
a
little
different.
So
so
it's
a
it's
referred
to
as
an
inner
city
motor
coach,
so
which
is
different
than
a
a
city
bus
which
is
has
two
doors
and
an
open
floor
plan,
seating
configuration
or
a
trolley
which
is
open,
air
and
and
it's
a
little
smaller.
The
length
of
the
vehicle
is
45
feet
long.
C
The
width
of
the
vehicle
is
102
inches
wide
and
the
height
is
12
feet
high.
There
are
between
46
and
56
seats
on
board
the
coach.
They
have
the
amenities
on
board
feature
wi-fi
power
outlets,
trade
tables.
We
plan
to
have
some
refreshments
on
board:
soft
drinks,
coffee
juice,
tea,
that
kind
of
thing
and
the
vehicles
themselves,
which
is
a
very
important
piece.
They
are
all
ada
accessible.
C
So
that's
that's
a
big
piece.
They're
made.
We
we
have
made
in
two
different
manufacturers.
One
of
them
is
mercedes
in
germany
and
the
other
one
is
mci,
which
is
north
dakota.
A
So
so
the
bus
would
be
45
feet
in
length.
How
long
is
the
the
parking
area
for
the
bus.
A
Would
that
give
you
enough
space
to
pull
in
there
into
that
bus?
Stop
and
you
know
reverse
it
safely,
so
you
could
make
sure
that
the
bus
is
in
the
in
the
space
properly
without
kind
of
being
over
the
over
into
the
second
lane.
C
Yes,
it
is
coming
from
the
bridge,
so
it's
on
a
pretty
straight
angle,
not
making
a
turn
to
pull
into
the
spot.
So
it's
coming
straight
angle
at
it,
at
the
space
pulls
over
to
the
right
hits
the
space
and
it
wouldn't
need
to
do
anything
besides.
Just
pull
away
straight
to
the
curb,
wouldn't
need
a
reverse
or
anything
back.
So
it's
a
it's
an
ideal
location,
because
we
don't
need
to
do
any
of
that,
because
we're
not
approaching
from
an
angle
taking
a
turn
and
then
pulling
in
the
space.
A
Okay,
but
you
would
have
the
traffic
lights
there
before
you
pull
in
the
space
across
across
the
street,
from
obviously
across
the
street,
from
the
children's
museum,
but
so
you'd
stop
at
the
traffic
light.
Let
people
let
people
go
obviously
if
it's
a
red
light
and
then
and
then
pull
into
the
space.
A
What
what
speed
would
you
be
coming?
I'm
I'm
one
of
my
other
issues
is
the
speed
of
cars
or
buses
or
trucks
in
you
know
a
city,
I
think
it's
25
miles
an
hour
is
very
fast,
going
throughout
boston
in
some
of
our
especially
some
of
our
dense
neighborhoods.
I've
been
advocating
for
three
years
to
reduce
it
to
20
miles
an
hour,
but
having
said
that,
what
speed
would
you
be
going
as
you
pull
towards
the
aquarium
going
to
the
lights
as
you
as
you're,
going
into
the
parking
spot?
A
C
So
I
would
assume
less
than
10
miles
an
hour
at
that
point,
we're
slowing
down,
for
we
have
every
reason
to
be
slowing
down.
At
that
point
we
have
a
crosswalk
to
be
slowing
down,
for
we
have
a
light
that
we
anticipate
that
it's
going
to
be
read
for
and
then
we're
stopping
for
the
stop
work
or
gearing
up
to
start
stopping
for
the
stop.
So
at
that
point
all
of
all
of
the
cards
are
in
our
favor
for
slowing
down,
not
not
accelerating.
At
that
point.
A
C
Yes,
conceptually
we
we
can,
we
we
should
be.
We
should
not.
Ever
we
don't
end
up
triggering
if
somebody's
in
the
crosswalk
period,
if
there's,
if
it's
a
traffic
control,
crosswalk
or
not
we're
giving
them
the
right
of
way.
That
is
how
our
training
is
driven.
C
As
a
redundant
note,
our
vehicles
do
have
collision
avoidance,
so
they
sense
they
have
the
same
system
that
a
car
senses
in
the
front,
if
somebody's
in
front
of
the
vehicle
that
automatic
that's
a
mercedes
technology
component
that
we
we
paid
extra
for
to
have
our
vehicles
so
that
automatically
locks
up
the
bus
as
well
to
avoid
that
collision.
C
In
addition
to
that
something,
that's
kind
of
a
it's
an
it's
an
important
training
session
that
we
do,
but
it's
and
we
don't
do
it
for
all
of
our
staff,
but
we
try
to
rotate
them,
and
so
we
actually
have
a
course
where
we
send
our
drivers
to
germany
10
drivers
every
year.
We
didn't
do
it
this
past
year,
but
we
do
it
every
other
year.
We
bring
them
to
a
racetrack
in
hockenheim,
germany
and
we
mimic
emergency
situations.
Emergency.
C
One
of
the
emergency
situations
is
an
unanticipated
stop,
so
there's
a
trainer
on
the
course.
It's
a
wet
course,
and
somebody
rolls
the
ball
in
front
of
the
bus
at
a
location.
The
driver
doesn't
know,
and
it
opens
our
driver's
eyes
up
to
the
amount
of
time
that
it
takes
for
you
to
see
something
to
the
amount
of
time
that
it
tells
your
body
to
put
to
apply
the
brake,
and
it
really
opens
up.
Everybody's
eyes
are
on
our
team
that
wow,
if
you
don't
anticipate
something,
there's
a
lot.
C
A
When,
when
you
would
pull
up
to
that
light
near
the
the
aquarium-
and
you
had
the
green
light,
but
would
there
be
any
issues
in
terms
of
any
like
blind
spots?
You
would
see
out
of
out
of
not
seeing
out
of
the
bus,
whether
it's
on
on
the
right
hand,
side,
because
the
door
is
there
or
the
left
hand
side
or
maybe
because
the
bus
is
up
higher
than
the
traditional
car
car
view.
A
Is
there
any
issues
in
terms
of
vision
that
a
a
bus
driver
might
not
see
a
pedestrian
cross
crossing
it
crossing
into
the
crosswalk.
C
So
the
bus
in
general
and
again
I
this
is
I'd
like
to
have
you,
come
and
check
out
them
in
person.
If
you
have
any
interest,
but
we
we
have
a
unique
advantage
of
being
up
high,
so
we're
up
higher.
We
have
mirrors
that
look
down
the
whole
side
of
the
vehicle,
more
so
than
a
car
in
some
cases,
because
they're
longer
they're,
wider
and
they're
designed
to
look
from
top
to
bottom.
C
C
But
at
that
point
it's
it's
already
an
issue,
so
the
collision
avoidance
system
is
definitely
something
that
helps
provide
that
redundancy
there,
but
but
overall,
it's
the
same
location
for
a
car.
If
somebody's
directly
in
front
of
a
bumper
and
a
car
you're
not
going
to
see
them,
it's
similar
to
a
bus,
if
you're
directly
below
the
driver
you're
not
going
to
see
them,
but
as
far
as
side
angles.
C
It
has
amazing
side
angles,
wide
wide
view.
When
you
put
on
your
directional
on
these
vehicles
as
well,
it
shows
an
image
on
the
dash
that
shows
a
camera
down
down
the
side
of
the
vehicle.
That
shows
you
another
vantage
point
as
well
so
and
like
I
mentioned
as
well,
there's
a
collision
avoidance
system.
C
A
I
yeah
thank
you
michael
I
I
know
you
mentioned
several
times
that
all
your
buses
are
ada
compliance.
Thank
you.
I'm
I'm
vice
chair
of
civil
rights
and
that's
probably
one
of
the
topics
I
focus
most
on
is
services
and
respect
for
our
persons
with
disabilities.
A
Having
said
that,
and
as
it
relates
to
a
person
with
disabilities
in
a
in
a
wheelchair
that
are
that
are
lower
lower
on
the
ground
level,
as
is
that
as
they're
navigating
the
street,
the
crosswalk,
do
you
have
any
challenges
with
people
in
in
wheelchairs,
as
it
relates
to
any
type
of
vision
that
might
be
reduced
at
that
time?.
C
Not
really,
I
guess
the
main
thing
that
is
important
to
note
about
anybody.
That's
in
a
wheeled
mobility
device,
whether
it
be
a
scooter
or
wheelchair
or
or
a
bicycle,
is
that
they
are
in
some
ways
more
limited
to
where
their
access
points
are
they're
not
coming
off
a
curve.
They're
not
coming
off
of
a
location
that
wouldn't
have
a
ramp
on
it.
C
So
it's
usually
right
by
a
pedestrian
access
point
so,
but
but
no
they're,
where
those
that
is
definitely
something
that
we
always
train
on
as
far
as
anybody,
that's
any
in
any
form
of
accessibility
crossing
the
street
in
any
location,
it
doesn't
matter
their
level
of.
A
Accessibility,
council
bloc-
I
know
you
have
your
hand
up.
Would
you
like
to
weigh
in
with
a
question.
C
B
E
B
Is
that
I
would
encourage
ed
from
btd
and
others
just
to
to
follow
up
with
the
applicant
further
along
the
lines
you
talked
about
with
the
blind
spot
and
everything
I
did
notice
that
the
place
where
the
bus
is
going
to
pull
to
the
curb
aligns
with
the
end
of
a
protected
bike
lane
that
then
becomes
an
unprotected
bike
lane.
B
So
I
just
really
want
to
make
sure
from
a
vision,
zero
perspective
that
you
know
we're
really
thinking
through
just
there,
it's
sort
of
like
you're
crossing
you
know
and-
and
I
I
would
hate
for
us
not
to
think
that
through
and
have
it
be
dangerous
for
our
bicyclists
and
so
just
would
love.
B
If
btd
would
look
at
that
and
talk
it
through
the
applicant
and
then
the
other
thing
is
just
all
right,
because
the
captain
came
on
after
I
had
asked
my
questions
just
it
would
be
great
captain
gagan
just
to
understand,
and
this
could
be
a
follow-up,
a
follow-up
with
the
council,
but
to
kind
of
understand
like
what
the
lay
of
the
land
is
in
terms
of
how
many
of
these
jitney
setups
we've
licensed
around
the
city
and-
and
I
I'd
also
love
to
understand
what
I
mean
you
mentioned
folks-
who
don't
come
to
us
for
a
license
and
do
this
and
I'm
just
curious
what
our
enforcement
sort
of
actions
and
mechanisms
are,
because
it
seems
to
me
like,
if
someone's
doing
that
routinely
it
surely
should
be
something
that
we
can
stop.
B
It's
obviously
harder
to
catch
a
one-off,
but
so
I
think
this
is
just
this
is
less
related
to
the
applicant
specific
application
and
more
kind
of
just.
This
is
my
first
time
really
understanding
this
issue
and
I'd
love
to
get
some
more
of
that
data.
E
I
I
agree
with
your
counselor,
we'll
we'll
try
to
get
you
some
more
information
on
it,
and
I
appreciate
it.
I
just
got
back
to
this
position
at
the
licensing
hackney
about
a
week
and
a
half
ago,
so
I'm
kind
of
thrust
back
into
it,
but
I'll
be
happy
to
work
with
you
and
counselor
flynn
to
get
you
that
information.
Thank
you.
D
Counselor,
on
your
first
point,
duly
noted,
we
will
take
that
in
an
advisement.
B
A
Yes,
you
do
yeah,
you
guys
have
proper,
proper
insurance
as
well.
Right,
yes,.
A
If
and
and
for
the
record
mike,
if
you're
able
to
send
copies
of
that
to
me.
A
C
Correct,
no,
it's
and
the
legal
name
of
the
company
is
a
yankee
line,
dba
yankee.
A
A
D
Okay,
nobody
requested
the
the
link.
A
Okay,
thank
you
juan
and
thank
you
candace.
Okay,
I
don't
have
any
further
questions.
I
don't.
I
don't
necessarily
have
a
closing
statement.
I
I
I
just
want
to
encourage
you
to
again
reach
out
to
the
fort
point,
neighbor
association
and
continue
working
with
captain
goggin
and
continue
working
with
ed
and
his
team
over
at
transportation,
and
do
you
have
any
questions
to
me
mike.
C
No
thank
you
counselor
thanks
for
the
time
today
where,
as
I
mentioned
at
the
beginning
of
this,
we're
we're
a
member
of
the
community,
we've
been
in
south
boston
for
all
of
our
time.
I
live
in
south
boston.
Most
of
our
staff
lives
in
south
boston,
so
we're
looking
to
do
things
the
right
way
and,
and
we
wanna
you
know,
we
wanna,
make
sure
we're
abiding
by
everything
we
need
to
be
because
we're
we're
not
we're
not
going
anywhere
we're.
C
We
wanna
make
sure
that
we're
not
just
coming
in
here
doing
something
assuming
something
incorrectly,
so
we
just
wanna
make
sure
everything
is
tidied
up
and
and
we're
doing
things
the
right
way.
A
Thank
you
mike,
and
I
I
do
agree
with
you.
You've
yankee
line
has
has
a
very
good
reputation
in
our
city
and
you
do
a
lot
of
outstanding
work,
helping
especially
our
seniors
in
our
city.
So
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
and
say
thank
you
for
some
of
the
community
work
that
you
do
and
yankee
line
does.
So.
Having
said
that,
I
want
to
thank
captain
gargan.
I
want
to
thank,
I
want
to
thank
ed
hesfet
from
the
transportation
department.
I
want
to
thank
you
mike
my
costa,
from
yankee
on.
A
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
candace
and
juan
from
city
council
central
staff
for
for
for
their
work,
and
at
this
time
this
meeting
is
adjourned.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.