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Description
City Services & Innovation Technology - Docket #1044, order for a hearing to bring City of Boston meetings and related business back in person with hybrid option accessibility
A
For
the
record,
my
name
is
Brian
Worrell
District,
4,
City
councilor
I
am
the
chair
of
the
Boston
city
council
committee
on
city
services
and
innovation,
technology
I'm
joined
by
my
colleagues,
councilor
Durkin
Council
Murphy,
councilor,
Rosie,
Louis,
Jen
and
Council
Ed
Finn.
This
public
hearing
is
being
recorded.
It
is
being
live
streamed
at
boston.gov,
backslash,
City,
Dash,
Council,
Dash,
TV
and
broadcast
on
Xfinity
channel
8
RCN
channel
82
FiOS
channel
964..
A
We
will
be
taking
public
testimony
at
the
end
of
this
hearing.
If
you
are
here
with
us
in
the
chamber,
please
sign
up
on
the
sheet
near
the
chamber
entrance
if
you
are
interested
in
testifying
virtually
please
email,
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that's
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n
dot,
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for
the
link
for
all
testimony.
Please
state
your
name
in
neighborhood
or
affiliation
and
try
to
keep
your
comments
to
two
minutes.
A
Today's
hearing
is
on
docket
number
1044
order
for
a
hearing
to
bring
city
of
Boston
board
meetings
about
a
meetings,
City
Council
meetings
and
related
related
business
back
in
person,
with
hybrid
options
for
accessibility,
we'll
be
now
going
to
our
counselors
in
the
order
of
arrival,
but
starting
first
with
the
original
sponsors
counselor
president
Ed
Flynn
and
councilman
Murphy
Then,
followed
by
councilor
Durkin
and
then
Council
Louie
gen
the
floors
years
councilor.
President
Flynn.
Thank
you.
B
B
In
the
past
several
weeks,
commercial
real
estate
Executives
in
Boston,
have
also
expressed
the
area's
concern
about
the
future
of
the
city's
office
space
and
asked
me
for
assistance,
asked
also
for
assistance
from
local
state
federal
officials
to
play
a
key
role
in
helping
to
bring
more
workers
in
foot
traffic
back
in
downtown
I.
Believe
I've
read
this
morning
that
State
Street
is
now
encouraging
or
asking
I
should
say.
Their
work
is
to
work
four
days
per
week,
which
I
think
is
a
positive
sign.
B
Downtown
residence,
business
and
City
officials
all
agree
that
higher
foot
traffic
and
healthy
economic
activity
is
much
needed
to
restore
confidence
in
improved
Public
Safety
as
well
in
the
neighborhood.
Well,
public
bodies
can
continue
to
hold
meetings
remotely.
It
is
important
that
a
city
in
elected
officials
that
we
make
a
deliberate
in
conscious
effort
to
encourage
city
of
Boston
meetings
to
return
in
person
with
the
remote
option
to
keep
accessibility
in
mind
for
the
public
in
persons
with
disabilities
as
a
step
to
lend
support
to
our
local
small
businesses.
B
Restaurants,
coffee
shops
that
were
devastated
during
the
pandemic,
resuming
city
of
Boston
board
meetings
in
person,
with
the
hybrid
option,
for
public
accessibility
and
for
persons
with
disabilities
would
allow
for
all
members
of
the
various
City
boards
attorneys
representing
clients.
Proponents
of
a
particular
project
interested
members
of
the
public
and
City
Hall
staff
to
return
on
site
and
provide
a
potential
to
support
our
local
economy
by
visiting
restaurants.
B
B
I
want
to
thank
mayor
will
and
our
team
for
their
continued
effort.
On
this
important
issue,
I'm
hoping
for
a
productive
conversation
as
well
as
we
continue
to
work
together
to
bring
foot
traffic
businesses
back
onto
our
streets.
I
was
at
a
meeting
last
night
with
the
downtown
residents
Association
and
that's
exactly
what
they
were
saying
to
me.
These
residents
in
the
business
Community
they
want
businesses
opened
in
the
downtown
area.
B
I've
encouraged
one
business
owner
to
open
and
he
said
to
me
yeah
Flynn
I'll
open,
but
can
you
also
do
something
for
me
and
I
said?
What
is
it?
Can
you
guys
also
open
at
City,
Hall
I,
said
well
I'm,
actually
having
a
hearing
about
this
tomorrow,
he
said.
Well.
That
would
be
a
good
example.
If
you
guys
open,
would
be
a
good
example
to
the
business
community
in
and
around
City
Hall
financial
district
downtown
that
we're
we're
serious
about
the
economic
recovery.
A
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
being
here
I'm.
Looking
forward
to
this
conversation,
I'll
be
brief.
Council
president
Flynn
covered
almost
all
of
what
I
was
going
to
say
and
I'm.
Looking
forward
to
this
conversation,
I
know
talking
and
working
closely
with
the
residents
of
downtown
and
also
the
downtown
bid.
C
We
need
people
back
and
it
helps
not
just
the
safety,
but
just
the
economy
from
thriving
and
I
do
also
agree
that
it
starts
from
the
top.
You
know
if
we
were
continuing
to
have
school
committee
meetings
Zoom,
but
then
we're
expecting
students
in
person
right.
It
kind
of
sets
an
example.
If
we're
here
and
we're
making
sure
that
we're
making
that
effort,
it
does
bring
more
people
downtown
and
it's
a
conversation,
that's
I,
think
long
overdue
to
have
and
see.
C
D
I'm,
throwing
myself
out
there
so
I
really
appreciate
this
conversation
also
appreciate
the
conversation
about
in
person
also
want
to
share
that
you
know.
While
you
know
some
businesses
may
have
not
thrived
with
downtown
being
open,
others
may
have
may
have
thrived
in
some
of
our
neighborhoods
and
I.
Think
I'm
excited
to
hear
from
our
two
Chiefs
Verona
melore
and
chief
shuga
Naidu
about
sort
of
what
their
observations
are
in
in
our
neighborhoods.
D
But
then
there's
this
other
conversation
happening
about
what
what
we
should
see
in
in
meetings
so
excited
to
take
part
in
this
conversation.
I
think
it's
incredibly
important,
I've
heard
from
many
neighbors
about
how
important
it
is
that
our
meetings
be
accessible
to
the
public,
especially
folks
who
aren't
traditional
meeting
goers.
Who
are
people
who
just
have
an
issue
and
really
want
it
solved,
so
I
think
it's
incredibly
important
and
I
want
to
thank
the
chair.
D
This
is
my
first
hearing
as
the
vice
chair
of
this
committee,
so
I'm
really
honored
to
be
here
and
I'm
really
excited
to
to
work
with
Brian
on
this
and
and
sorry
the
counselor
on
this
very
important,
very
important
issue,
and
thank
you
to
the
sponsors,
counselors
council,
president
Flynn
and
councilor
Aaron
Murphy.
Thank
you.
E
You
chair
and
congratulations
Vice
chair
on
Vice
chairing
your
first
hearing
and
thank
you
to
the
makers
on
this
hearing
order.
I
want
to
dovetail
actually
off
of
two
things
that
the
vice
chair
stated:
one
was
it
doesn't
sort
of
need,
it
doesn't
have
to
sort
of
be
this
oppositional
sense
like
there
are
a
lot
of
neighborhoods
like
that,
as
you
stated
that
really
did
find
a
way
to
thrive.
E
People
stayed
closer
to
home
and
that's
a
beautiful
thing
for
us
to
have
neighborhoods
and
neighborhood
restaurants
that
are
that
feel
revitalized,
and
so
we
need
to
continue
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
that
and
right
that
that
we
don't
feel
like
there's
this
tension
between
supporting
a
strong
downtown
and
supporting
strong
neighborhoods,
especially
in
our
black
and
brown
neighborhoods.
That
may
have
experienced
maybe
a
slight
uptake
in
sort
of
Business,
Development
and
re-rateralization
because
of
the
interest
in
more
neighborhood
restaurants.
E
We
can
do
that
and
we
can
still
support
our
downtown
residents
and
I
know
she's,
not
here,
but
councilor,
Braden
and
I,
or
co-sponsors
in
that
ordinance
to
really
think
about
accessibility
and
what
we've
learned
during
the
pandemic.
Regarding
the
best
way
to
conduct
Municipal
business
and
the
best
way
to
make
sure
that
it's
accessible
there
is,
there
is
tremendous
value
to
having
in-person
hearings,
because
there's
community
that
forms
among
people
who
come
in
a
way
that
if
you
are
attending
a
bpda
hearing,
you
don't
see
who's
on.
E
You
don't
see
the
comments
that
are
being
made
and
there's
an
important
community
that
can
happen
among
the
public,
that's
interested,
but
we
also
need
to
make
sure
that
we
are
able
to
maintain
an
online
option
because
government
has
become
more
accessible
to
more
people.
Because
of
that,
and
particularly
when
we're
talking
about
bringing
business
to
downtown
council,
president
Flynn
did
mention
the
State
Street,
which
now
is
requiring
workers
to
come
downtown
four
days
a
week,
which
I
think
will
be
great
for
business.
I.
E
Think
they're
also
Transportation
concerns
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
are
taking
into
consideration,
because
there
are
some
there's
been
certain
benefits
to
our
environment
and
to
traffic
as
a
result
of
the
hybrid
work
model.
So
that's
something
that
we
also
need
to
think
through,
but
I
also
wanted
to
tip
my
hat
to
the
downtown
bid,
the
business,
the
business
improvement
district.
E
And
you
know,
you
know,
transforming
how
we
think
downtown
Boston
can
work.
I
thought
was
really
tremendous
and
so
kudos
to
all
the
people
who
are
already
working
on
what
it
would
look
like
to
have
a
really
strong
revitalized
downtown,
and
thank
you
Chiefs
to
being
here
and
for
your
work
on
on
this
matter.
Thank.
F
Thank
you
chair
and
congratulations
to
the
vice
chair
on
your
your
first
committee
meeting
on
this
topic.
Thank
you
to
the
makers
of
this
docket.
I'm
really
happy
to
be
here.
I
think
there
was
a
lot
already
said
in
opening
comments,
but
something
that
I
was
going
to
mention
was
the
fact
that
yes,
I,
do
I'm
very
lucky
to
represent
downtown
neighborhoods
and
their
economic
Vitality
is
is
very
important
to
me.
F
I've
also
seen
it
in
my
neighborhoods
that
are
sometimes
a
bridge
in
a
tunnel
too
far
for
for
them
during
the
work
day
that
their
our
main
streets
have
benefited
from
hybrid
options,
and
you
know
I
I
think
for
me
right
now.
I
fully
support
a
hybrid
option
of
a
municipal
government
working
because
it
has
become
more
accessible
to
folks.
On
the
flip
side,
I
have
heard
that
it's
very
hard
for
seniors
to
access
some
of
these
meetings,
and
so
I
do
think
that
this
hearing
order
is
very
timely
and
I.
F
Look
forward
to
hearing
from
you
both
on
how
we
can
move
forward,
and
maybe
some
tangible
Solutions
on
how
to
get
this
done
and
then
also
the
technology
Point
portion
of
this.
How
are
we
setting
up
ons
vpda
to
be
successful
to
do
both
if
we're
going
to
talk
about
a
hybrid
option?
So
just
looking
forward
to
the
conversation
thanks.
A
Thank
you,
councilor
Coletta,
and
a
lot
of
you
know.
My
ideas
have
already
been
shared
by
my
colleagues.
You
know,
accessibility,
you
know
making
sure
the
hybrid
option
has
increased
the
accessibility
of
a
lot
of
our
people
in
our
community
and
I
love
that
option
I
remember
there
was
a
hearing
and
there
were
people
you
know
calling
in
from
like
the
work
site.
A
You
know
into
a
hearing
and
I
think
that
you
know
making
sure
that
that
hybrid
option
technology
has
increased,
just
engagement
just
overall,
but
also
kind
of
wanted
to
hear
from
the
administration,
on
our
vision
of
for
downtown
right,
there's
other
neighborhoods
that
have
thrived
with
this
hybrid
model.
So
how
are
we
looking
to
you
know?
What's
our
new
vision
for
downtown,
seeing
that
it's
kind
of
lagging
behind
other
areas
of
Boston
and
those
are
my
and
then
also
to
to
council
Coletta's
point?
A
Is
the
technology
are
all
of
our
departments
equipped
for
hybrid
options,
so
I'll
now
pass
it
over
to
the
administration
so
we're
doing
in
here
by
chief
chief
sigan
iru
from
The
Economic
Opportunity
inclusion,
Economic,
Development,
Department
and
also
Chief
Brianna
mallor
from
Community
engagement.
The
floor
is
now
yours.
A
H
H
H
We
saw
increased
participation
by
our
residents
in
community
meetings
and,
even
since
the
even
since
covert
has
has
regressed
and
not
died
down
to
a
certain
extent,
we
just
continued
to
see
increased
participation
if
we
offer
a
hybrid
model.
We
even
are
you
know
local
Community
meetings
with
that
are
organized
by
our
libraries
or
whatever
to
do
a
presentation.
There's
40
people
in
the
room
and
there's
70
people
online.
H
That's
a
lot
of
extra
people
who
are
participating
in
our
Civic
process
and
one
concern
about
sort
of
removing
that
option
of
a
hybrid
participation
and
going
to
like
an
in-person
model.
Is
that
things
like
the
Zoning
Board
of
appeal,
which
we
have
we
have
which
can
take
ours?
You
can
stand
it.
You
can
wait
online
for
hours
to
have
your
say
at
a
zoning
Board
of
appeal
meeting.
H
They
can't
all
be
accommodated
in
the
room.
You
can't
hear
what's
been
said,
I
think
having
a
hybrid
model
is
really
helpful
and
it
increases
specific
participation
across
the
board,
so
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
come
to
a
compromise
that
that
will
allow
us
to
continue
in
this
and
and
make
sure
that
we
invest
in
the
technology
to
make
it
possible.
H
Increasingly,
we
are
seeing
that
investment
in
our
local
libraries
and
our
community
centers
and
places
there.
They
are
investing
in
the
technology
to
be
able
to
do
hybrid
meetings
and
I.
Think
it's
making
all
the
it's
making
a
huge
difference,
especially
for
elders,
people
with
child
care
facility
commitments.
People
with
different
job
shifts
that
they
can't
attend.
They
can't
take
ours
out
of
their
day
or
their
evening
to
attend
to
attend
a
community
meeting
or
a
Civic
meeting
or
a
city
meeting.
H
G
Thank
you
to
the
chair
and
the
vice
chair
and
the
sponsors
and
the
entire
body
and
the
public.
That's
also
gonna,
testify
soon.
For
presenting
this
hearing
order,
my
name
is
Brianna
mallor
I'm,
the
chief
of
community
engagement
and
my
cabinet
specifically
touches
some
of
the
meetings
addressed
in
the
hearing
order
like
a
Butters
meetings
and
some
boards
and
commissions
in
my
cabinet.
We
have
311
office
of
Civic,
organizing
spark,
Boston
and
neighborhood
services.
So
a
lot
of
the
public
facing
departments
that
you
know
deal
with.
How
do
we
engage
residents
intentionally?
G
Our
cabinet
helps
bridge
the
gap
between
local
government
and
neighborhood
services
to
ensure
people
are
connected
to
Services
resources,
information,
accessibility
and
connectivity
is
always
at
the
Forefront
of
what
we
do.
Like
many
people
around
the
world,
the
the
covid-19
pandemic
forced
us
to
really
rethink
and
reimagine
how
we
connect
with
our
constituencies.
Our
residents
virtual
meetings,
have
increased
constituents,
attemptance
and
Community
meetings
and
made
it
accessible
for
people
in
Boston
to
stay
informed
and
stay
connected
to
City,
Hall
and
and
often
the
comfort
of
their
own
home
or
on
their
on
their
commute.
G
G
While
we
do
offer
in-person
opportunities
and
it
has
been
successful,
successful
there
are
residents
that
find
virtual
access
more
accessible
to
provide
balance
in
their
work,
families
that
know
their
commitments
and
their
lives.
Three
room
will
access.
The
cabinet
of
community
engagement
has
been
able
to
connect
with
Boston's
Community
organizations,
our
most
vulnerable
residents,
and
making
sure
that
virtual
Butters
meetings
and
Community
meetings
are
flyered
throughout
each
and
every
one
of
our
neighborhoods.
G
We
also
know
that
remote
access,
remote
fully
remote
hearings
allow
expansion
for
language
access
and
ensuring
language
interpreters
are
available
during
virtual
meetings
to
provide
interpretations
because
of
the
accessibility
and
convenience
of
virtual
meetings.
Residents
are
able
to
not
only
attend
to
participate
more
conveniently
they're
able
to
you
know,
often
multitask,
because
we've
all
we've
all
seen
someone
cooking
dinner
during
a
virtual
meeting.
G
G
Lastly,
making
remote
fully
remote
accessibility
as
a
part
of
the
norm
ensures
that
the
city
of
Boston
can
reach
our
most
vulnerable
and
sometimes
hard
to
reach
populations
and
making
sure
that
we're
just
deeply
connecting
with
residents
and
making
sure
we're
just
getting
the
word
out
about.
You
know
when
our
meetings
are
being
held
and
where
they're
being
held
and
yeah
I
give
my
time
to
Chief
idiot.
I
I
It's
a
positive
story,
I
think
to
tell
about
Boston
and
the
fact
that
we
are
experiencing
a
very
strong
recovery
in
comparison
to
our
peer
cities.
Across
the
Nation.
In
fact,
anecdotally.
I,
know
this
to
be
true,
because
it's
now
difficult
to
walk
on
the
sidewalks,
because
there
are
so
many
people
down
here
during
the
day
most
of
the
Chagrin
of
those
of
us
who
like
to
walk
quickly
to
where
we're
trying
to
go.
But
you
know
our
downtown
is
coming
back.
I
I
have
a
few
stats
to
share
with
the
committee
just
to
kind
of
level
set
and
give
us
an
understanding
of
where
we
are
today
versus
you
know
the
last
several
years
since
the
pandemic
I
was
happy
to
see
or
am
happy
to
see,
Anita
from
the
downtown
Boston
bid,
who
you
know.
Some
of
these
statistics
are
gathered
from
every
week.
I
They
send
out
data
regarding
football
and
where
people
are
what
day
you
know
what
time,
what
the
weather
was
like
all
that
kind
of
stuff
to
help
us
have
an
understanding
of
what
days
folks
are
here.
What's
what
might
be
keeping
them
from
here,
Etc
and,
of
course,
those
it's
changed
compared
to
where
we
were
pre-pandemic
and
I'm.
Sure
she'll
talk
more
about
that,
but
from
our
friends
at
the
bpda
excuse
me
at
downtown
Boston
bid.
I
I
The
administration
itself
invested
about
a
million
dollars
in
our
small
businesses
in
the
downtown
area
as
a
result
of
the
small
business
Relief
Fund
that
was
administered
last
year
through
this
year,
which
represented
around
eight
percent
of
the
total
amount
that
was
given
out.
It
was
the
fourth
largest
amount
of
money
given
to
a
particular
neighborhood
via
that
program
and,
of
course,
one
of
the
ways
that
the
city
has
has
been
working
toward
addressing
the
vacant
storefronts
in
the
downtown
area.
I
Through
the
wisdom
of
this
Council,
awarding
nine
million
dollars
to
the
office
of
Economic
Opportunity
and
inclusion
to
support
our
space
grant
program
where
many
of
the
businesses,
the
so
the
first
round
just
went
out
of
roughly
three
million
dollars.
24
businesses
that
were
selected
for
that
first
round
and
a
very
good
number
of
those
businesses
are
choosing
to
locate
themselves
in
our
downtown
area.
Some
of
them
are
new
entrepreneurs.
It
will
be
their
first
storefront.
I
I
Restaurant
spending
is
at
85
percent
of
2019
levels
in
June,
Logan
reported
that
we
had
exceeded
our
levels
of
international
traffic
from
passengers
at
859
114
compared
to
847
000
in
2019,
and
we
are
around
93
percent
of
where
we
were
in
2019
on
domestic
travel
and
meet
Boston.
Our
friends
there
reported
that
we
are
number
one
in
the
country
as
a
result
of
in-person
meetings.
I
Outpacing
our
peers
across
the
country
councilworrell
requested
kind
of
what
the
future
plans
are
for
downtown
happy
to
share
the
report
that
was
published
in
October
of
2022.
That
showed
what
our
vision
as
an
Administration
is
for
the
downtown.
There
were
six
important
points
or
categories
in
this
report.
The
first
is
ensuring
the
vibrancy
of
office
downtown
office,
space
downtown,
which
our
space
program
is
a
piece
of
this
expanding
a
housing
downtown.
I
So
we
heard
recently
of
the
mayor
and
bpda
putting
forward
the
plan
to
convert
some
Office
Buildings
to
housing,
and
just
yesterday
we
joined
the
Boston
Chamber
of
Commerce,
where
the
mayor
shared
further
incentives
and
other
programs
to
help
spur
this
development
in
our
downtown
area
to
bring
housing
and
more
residents
to
the
area.
The
third
bucket
is
expanding
daily
use
of
downtown
Beyond
work.
I
Finally,
I'll
just
say
that
you
know
again
in
terms
of
what
the
administration
is
doing
to
support
the
revitalization
of
downtown
the
events
that
we
are
doing
ourselves.
You
know
again,
councilor
Flynn,
council,
president
Flynn,
is
absolutely
correct.
You
know,
and
what's
stated
in
this
ordinance-
is
that
the
city
must
be
a
leader
in
this
space.
I
We
can't
just
rely
on
our
partners
in
the
private
sector
as
much
as
we
appreciate
State
Street
for
the
recent
announcement
and
many
other
friends
in
the
private
sector
that
have
made
similar
announcements
or
will
be
shortly
of
returning
to
a
four
day
or
five
day
work
week.
It's
important
that
the
city
is
leading
on
this
matter,
and
so
we
have
been
ensuring
that
we're
using
our
Plaza
space
to
bring
more
people
downtown.
I
You
know,
I
again,
would
would
invite
folks,
when
they're
leaving
city
hall,
there's
probably
not
a
day
that
that
goes
by
that
you're
not
running
into
people
on
our
Plaza
after
five
o'clock.
Because
of
all
the
events
that
our
tourism,
sports
and
entertainment
department
has
been
putting
on,
and
particularly
want
to.
I
Thank
you
know
Amy
andol
and
Colette
Forlan,
and
so
many
others
in
our
in
our
special
events
team
who
are
helping
get
these
things
through,
but
are
providing
opportunities
for
folks
to
come
to
the
plaza,
which
means
that
they're
not
just
coming
and
supporting
events
on
the
Plaza
but
they're
going
to
support
the
many
local
vendors
at
Boston,
Public,
Market
or
many
of
our
small
businesses
in
the
downtown
area.
Last
year
we
put
out
a
contract
350
000
through
the
sheltered
Market
program.
I
That
again,
we
are
grateful
to
the
council
for
supporting
that
went
to
a
black
woman-owned
business,
rosemark
Productions,
where
they
put
on
a
series
of
events
called
Boston
together
again,
which
again
were
a
series
of
events
here
in
the
downtown
area
that
brought
thousands
over
the
course
of
an
eight-week
period
to
our
area
bless.
You
bless
you
again
in
advance
all
right.
I
Finally,
I'll
just
end
by
saying
that
you
know
it
is
very
important
that
I'm
very
happy
that
the
point
about
thinking
about
all
of
our
neighborhoods
as
we're
having
this
conversation
is
vitally
important.
Downtown
is
a
neighborhood
and
not
separate
and
I'm
very,
very
happy
that
this
Council
reiterated
that
point
through
all
of
your
opening
comments,
and
so
therefore,
the
approach
that
the
administration
is
taking
is
holistic.
I
You
know
again,
as
I
mentioned,
retail
vacancies
are
down
to
two
percent
across
the
city
and
all
of
our
neighborhoods,
which
means
that
our
neighborhoods
are
thriving.
There,
we've
actually
many
have
exceeded
in-person
consumer
spending.
Three
important
neighborhoods
that
actually
have
seen
spending
go
up
compared
to
2019
East
Boston
is
up
17
in
terms
of
spending
compared
to
2019..
Roxbury
is
up
by
16
roslindale's
up
by
15,
and
so
we
we
want
to
see
this
continue.
I
I
So
I'm
very
much
looking
forward
to
this
conversation
with
all
of
you
and
and
really
thinking
about
how
we
address
some
of
the
challenges
that
were
brought
up
during
some
of
these
opening
remarks,
particularly
around
around
transportation
and
ensuring
that
folks
remain.
You
know
have
the
opportunity
to
continue
participating
in
all
of
these
meetings.
I
A
B
G
B
G
So
I
know
what
the
like
anticipation
with
the
with
the
state
legislation,
anticipate
I,
think
it's
the
2025
year.
We
definitely
are
making
sure
we're
prepared
to
have
those
conversations
but
making
sure.
Of
course,
our
technology
and
our
resources
are
equipped
to
to
manage
that
and
speaking
of
technology.
I
know
that
our
chief
is
here
so.
B
One
question
I
had
about
zba
board
meetings.
A
lot
of
residents
have
said
to
me
that
they
would
be
in
on
the
zoom
meeting
and
trying
to
ask
a
question
or
to
offer
their
opinion,
and
they
were
they
were
probably
by
accident
by
accident.
They
were
overlooked.
They
weren't
able
to
get
their
opinion
about
a
particular
process
on
the
record
is
that
common.
G
G
B
G
So
right
now
the
liaise
I'm
sure
everyone
knows
the
liaison's
host
of
others,
meetings
for
different
boards
and
different
projects
right
now,
they're
fully
virtual.
They
have
the
flexibility
to
have
them
fully.
Virtual
has
allowed
us
to
have
multiple
in
the
night
we
we
know
that
I
mean
especially
East
Boston
there's
in
South
Boston.
We
see
a
a
lot
of
the
needs
for
our
Butters
meanings
in
it.
It
allows
us
to
have
multiple
so
we're
able
to
hear
from
constituents
on
what's
what's
happening
in
the
neighborhood.
G
B
It
gives
residents
a
a
different
perspective
of
of
engaging
their
elected
officials,
their
City
officials
about
a
particular
project,
pointing
out
something
about
a
curve
pointing
out
something
about
a
house
or
a
traffic.
A
traffic
light,
a
transportation
issue,
but
about
a
meeting
about
his
meetings
in
over
Zoom
doesn't
have
the
same
effect
as
about
about
his
meetings
in
person
and
I.
Think
you're
able
to
effectively
more
effectively
get
you
a
point
across
in
person
in
in
about
his
meetings.
G
Yeah,
that's
definitely
something
we
have
been
looking
into
on.
You
know
how
do
we
have?
How
do
we
have
the
balance
and
capacity
and
what
that
means?
You
know
Staffing,
wise
or
technology
wise
to
make
sure
we're
we're
having
those
opportunities
and
able
to
like
have
see
the
tangible
like
if
we
have
this
easement
this
far
away.
Like
understanding,
that's
important
too,
we
definitely
are
having
those
conversations,
but
at
this
moment
not
fully
equipped
to
like
go
back
in
person.
G
G
We
also
are
kind
of
I
alluded
to
earlier
able
to
have
multiple
meetings
in
one
night,
instead
of
like
jumping
a
liaison
having
to
jump
to
like
really
physically
commute
to
different
meetings,
and
we
specifically
see
in
like
neighborhoods
like
East
Boston,
South
Boston,
the
need
for
virtual,
because
we're
we're
able
to
there
the
Liaisons
are
able
to
facilitate
the
meetings
more
seamlessly.
But
we
are
looking
into
like
what
does
that
look
like
to
come
back
in
person
for
sure.
B
The
the
my
my
constituents
in
South
Boston
have
asked
me
for
in-person
meetings,
not
for
the
virtual
meetings
for
about
his
meetings,
but
I,
don't
know,
maybe
maybe
District
Council
is
outside
of
District.
2
might
have
a
different
perspective
on
it,
I'd
love
to
hear
their
opinion
and
then
just
finally,
just
in
the
downtown
community,
which
I
represent
I've,
been
doing
everything.
I
possibly
can
working
with
the
police
department
to
provide
the
safest
possible
area
for
residents
and
for
businesses
and
for
tourists
to
come
in.
B
We've
had
several
incidents,
as,
as
we
all
know
in
and
around
the
downtown
area,
with
youth
violence
and
those
issues
that
I'm
focused
on,
because
if
we
don't
address
those
particular
issues,
residents
will
not
come
back
to
the
downtown
area.
That's
what
residents
say
to
me
directly
and
that's
what
businesses
say
to
me
directly
in
tourists.
It
will
say
to
me
that
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
everything
we
can
to
provide
a
safe
and
welcoming
downtown
for
everybody.
Thank
you,
Mr
chair,
thank.
C
Yeah,
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
sharing
out
and
the
statistics
seemed
very
promising
or
in
a
good
place.
It's
numbers
can
be
funny,
though,
because
the
conversations
I'm
hearing
right
seem
to
be
different
and
I
know
and
we've
all
I
think
everyone
touched
on
the
fact
that
in
the
neighborhoods
right,
if
I'm
in
my
home,
neighborhood
of
Adam's
Corner
lots
of
foot
traffic,
lots
of
small
businesses
have
been
Globe
articles
writing
about
how
our
neighborhoods
are
thriving.
C
But
what
about
downtown
and
I
know
this
hearing
about
going
to
in
person
isn't
only
about
the
downtown,
so
I
appreciate
that
the
conversation
is
also
about
capacity.
So
Brianne
I'm
just
wondering
because
I
hear
the
same
thing
that
council
president
Flynn
mentioned
that
some
of
these
meetings
like
before
the
pandemic,
no
one
ever
thought
that
Zoom
would
be
a
thing
right
and
that
we
could
ever
have
done
them
on
TV
screen
on
your
telephone
while
you're,
hopefully
not
driving,
but
maybe
as
a
passenger.
But
you
know
multitasking
where
there's
definitely
benefits
to
it.
C
But
we're
I
hear
a
lot
and
I
feel
oftentimes
too,
that
we're
missing
that
human
connection.
To
these
decisions
at
a
really
big
right,
so
if
we
have
400,
people
show
up
to
a
hall
in
East
Boston
and
they
want
to.
You
know,
spend
that
time
talking
face
to
face
to
city
either
elected
officials
or
yourselves,
and
they
want
to.
You
know,
there's
just
that
feeling
that
human
connection
of
the
difference
between
them
being
on
a
webinar
where
you're,
not
even
sure
who
else
is
on
you,
can't
write
in
the
chat.
C
C
What's
the
quantitative
result
like
how
how
interactive
and
do
the
neighbors
feel
as
though
their
voices
are
being
heard,
because
I
do
hear
it
time
and
time
again
that
we
want
to
be
in
the
neighborhood
council
president
Flynn
and
I
and
councilor
Baker
were
in
Andrew
square
like
if
that
had
been
on
Zoom
there
were
neighbors
walking
with
us.
We
were
talking.
We
were
like
walking
by
the
street
signs
and
the
new
development
that
we're
talking
about.
So
there
is
a
positive
and
it's
not
something
that
we're
asking
that
never
happened
before
right.
C
This
is
100
how
our
neighborhood
Liaisons.
This
is
how
it
was
set
up
before
so
I
do
think
we
kind
of
have
to
see,
and
if
it's
a
capacity
or
is
it
just,
we
kind
of
got
used
to
doing
it
this
way.
So
we
don't
want
to
go
back
right
and
and
if
it
is
a
capacity,
then
definitely
supporting
you
in
your
office
and
because
I
know
the
ons
liaison's
work
extremely
hard.
G
D
So
obviously
that's
what
we
have
purview
over,
mostly
as
a
city
council,
but
obviously
we
have
purview
over
the
overall
health
of
the
city
and
talking
about
sort
of
how
we
so
I
know.
We
all
have
preferences
in
terms
of
which
the
EBA
and
which
bpda
meetings
should
be
in
person
and
I.
Appreciate
that,
because
a
lot
of
conversations
that
we
have,
we
have
that
feeling
of.
Wouldn't
this
be
an
easier
conversation
or
wouldn't
this
be
a
richer
conversation.
D
Obviously
we
have
two
really
great
experts
here
from
the
city
sort
of
and
so
I
I
want
to
sort
of
go
back
to
one
of
the
comments
from
Chief
sugar
Naidu,
who
I
think
is
doing
a
tremendous
job.
Helping
with
I
mean
some
of
those
statistics.
We've
weathered
something
that
not
that
a
lot
of
studies
are
still
really
dealing
with,
and
so
I
really
appreciate.
D
I
Well,
it's
too
difficult
to
to
use
public
transportation
or
to
fight
the
the
traffic
getting
in
or
going
out,
and
so
we're
just
going
to
transition
fully
to
remote,
because
it'll
be
easier
for
the
workforce
and
less
less
stressful.
So
transportation
is
key.
However,
when
thinking
about-
and
so
you
know
that
is
important,
because
you
know
commercial
real
estate
when
we
think
about
how
we
fund
all
the
initiatives
that
we
all
want
to
fund
when
we
think
about
the
four
plus
billion
dollar
budget
that
this
Council
deliberates
on.
I
You
know
a
huge
percentage
of
that
funding
comes
from
property
taxes,
which
is
funded
by
our
commercial
real
estate,
and
so
it
is
extremely
important
to
the
health
and
viability
of
the
city
of
Boston
that
our
commercial,
real
estate
sector
is
doing
well
and
not
floundering.
So.
To
that
point,
I
will
say-
and
this
is
a
point
I
wanted-
to
bring
up
to
Council
Morrell's
question
about
the
feature
of
downtown.
The
administration
is
also
working
on
identifying
other
key
industries
that
we
can
bring
to
the
downtown
area.
I
As
we've
been
partnering
with
Chief
Santi
gar
says
on
this,
you
know
a
lot
of
the
Industries
or
the
some
of
the
top
two,
the
top
two
industries
that
might
be
impacted.
A
lot
by
artificial
intelligence
are
the
two
that
I
mentioned,
and
so
we're
thinking
a
lot
about.
What
are
the
other
industries
that
we
can
bring
to
the
area
that
not
only
require
in-person
work
but
also
require
collaboration
and
and
have
an
ecosystem
that
Fosters
this
desire
to
be
around
other
people?
I
Because
you
don't
want
to
miss
out,
because
you
want
to
those
relationships.
Our
mayor
is
the
green
New
Deal
mayor
in
this
country,
and
you
know
our
focus
is
on
how
do
we
attract
climate
companies?
I
should
say
more
climate
companies,
because
we
have
a
burgeon
and
climate
Tech
sector
that
is
here
in
the
downtown
area,
and
so
our
focus
on.
How
do
we
grow
that
thinking
about
our
Blue
Tech
economy?
I
D
You
have
many
things
underneath
your
plate,
but
ons
is
one
of
them.
Obviously,
I've
seen
your
folks
and
your
team
out
in
our
neighborhood
sort
of
more
than
any
other
team,
because
that's
the
role
of
really
the
ons
Liaisons
wanted
to
sort
of
on
your
end
sort
of
ask
this
question
of
Transportation,
because
your
team
is
having
to
Traverse
I
mean
I,
think
about
who
I
work
with
most
closely.
D
G
So
definitely
just
like
every
other
like
resident
of
the
city
of
Boston
or
someone
that
works
in
the
city
of
Boston
transportation
is
of
course
concern
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
t-riders.
A
lot
of.
We
also
have
access
to
Fleet
hubs
which
are
City
vehicles
to
get
from
point
A
to
point
B,
as
you
mentioned,
Liaisons
are
bouncing
around
within
their
neighborhoods.
G
You
know
meeting
with
residents,
sometimes
staff
in
the
mayor
so
definitely
of
concern,
but
you
know
we
make
sure
to
make
sure
they
have.
They
have
ability
to
get
from
4A
to
point
B
and
build
that
connectivity,
but
sometimes
they're
in
City
Hall,
sometimes
they're
in
Mission,
Hill
to
Back,
Bay
or
matapan,
but
making
sure
that
they
are
able
to
get
around.
Thank.
J
Yeah,
hello,
I'm,
Santiago,
Garces
I'm,
the
Chief
Information
officer
of
the
city,
I
think,
generally,
what
we
have
seen
is
the
hybrid
meetings
tend
to
benefit
from
investment
in
infrastructure
in
the
space
like
what
makes
virtual
you
know,
hybrid
participation
with
the
council
involves
having
good
microphones
so
that
all
the
particip
everybody
that's
going
to
be
speaking
could
be
heard.
That's
very
difficult
to
set
up
kind
of
on
an
ad
hoc
bases
in
a
space
that
hasn't
been
designed
and
enabled
to
do
that.
J
J
Hybrid
meetings
tend
to
have
other
obstacles
around
participation
having
people
that
are
in
the
room
be
heard
well
for
the
virtual
participants
and
the
the
conversations
there's,
there's
still
work
to
be
done
to
make
the
that
experience
better,
but
we
have
been
working
on
enabling
more
of
the
spaces
and
not
only
with
the
technology
to
participate
in
the
meeting,
but
also
working
with
ISD
and
others
to
try
to
bring
better
tools
to
share
with
the
public.
What
are
the
projects,
what
might
be
relevant
to
them?
D
D
Obviously
part
of
that
proposed
ordinance
would
be
that
all
members
of
the
body
attend
in
person,
but
then
people
be
available.
This
is
obviously
for
the
city
council
only,
but
but
obviously
like
people
be
able
to
join
in
person
and
hybrid
and
online
and
so
I'm
curious.
If,
obviously,
this
room
is
a
perfect
example
of
of
one
that
is
completely
set
up,
but
are
there
other
ones
that
you
guys
are
working
on
or
know
about,
and
obviously
I
I
am
happy
to
follow
up
with
Dion
Irish
too
about
what
he
thinks.
J
In
this
room,
there's
several
dead
hosts
that
meetings,
the
bpda,
Board,
Room
and
and
some
others
again,
usually
things
that
make
a
good
experience.
The
cameras
that
we
also
brought
our
team,
the
cable
and
broadcasting
team
broadcast
these
meetings
through
the
cable
channel
that
the
city
has
the
several
cable
channels
that
the
city
has.
So
that's
another
consideration.
We
usually
because
we
leverage
these
Technologies.
J
We
don't
need
to
have
a
camera
for
someone
on
side
to
film
to
make
sure
that
that
gets
broadcasted
through
the
city,
Channel
Through,
the
council
Channel,
but
this
space
and
there's
a
couple
of
others
in
in
City
Hall
and
again
there.
We
work
with
other
departments
when
the
with
to
help
support
needs,
but,
like
the
schools,
manages
their
own
kind
of
I.T
infrastructure
into
schools,
building
the
library
but.
D
I'm
sorry
last
question
and
not
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
but
do
you
find
that
there
would
be
a
need
for
more
investment
in
hybrid
resources?
If,
if
we
were
to
try
to
move
within
the
next
year,
back
to
some
of
these
folks,
some
of
these
meetings
being
hybrid
versus
versus
now
right
that
are
there
online
yeah.
J
The
primary
it
depends
on
what
was
desired
if
it
is
having
enabling
fixed
spaces
for
hybrid
meetings.
That's
one
type
of
investment
like
the
panthed
Zoom
cameras
that
can
zoom
into
the
person.
That's
talking
the
microphones.
All
these
things
are
are
helpful.
I
think
that
if
the
idea
is
to
have
ad
hoc
meetings
in
different
Community
spaces,
I
think
that
we
would
want
to
start
with
having
some
budget
to
test
different
Technologies
is
what
I
it
so
much
depends
on
the
layout
of
the
room.
How
far
are
you
from
the
microphone?
J
How
far
are
you
from
a
camera,
the
speakers
in
the
room
and
that's
where
we
find
that
there's
a
lot
of
variability
and
it's
it's?
It's
technically
hardened
on
the
Staffing
side,
who's
going
to
provide
the
technical
so
that
we
don't
have
a
good
model
to
provide
that
level
of
support
like
who
would
be
helping
make
sure
that
things
are
working
properly,
that
the
audio
feed
is
going
to
zoom
as
all
the
technical
pieces
that
usually
when
they
don't
work,
everybody
gets
frustrated
about.
But
not
everybody
wants
to
think
about
that.
I.
J
D
A
Don't
expect
you
to
have
that
answer,
but
right
now
in
terms
of
like
the
dollar
amount,
but
if
you
could
provide
the
dollar
amount
for
us
could
speak
it
to
council
durkin's
Point
like
if
this
is
something
that
The
Count
Council
would
like
to
pursue.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
in
the
budget
for
next
year,
yeah.
J
So
we
for
this
past
the
current
fiscal
year.
We
have
some
funding
I
want
to
check
the
amount
before
I.
Give
you
an
incorrect
number.
The
model
that
we've
been
deploying
is
actually
a
movable
card
that
has
a
screen
some
speakers
kind
of
a
high
quality
camera
that
has
the
advantage
that
you
could
turn
almost
any
small
to
medium-sized
room
into
a
hybrid
conference
space
but
again
primarily
be
being
used
in
city
hall,
because
we
know
that
we
have
the
network
to
be
able
to
operate
it
and
whatnot.
J
So
I
think
that
it
is
a
little
bit
over
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
we
have
budgeted,
and
we
have
about
eight
of
these
setups
that
we
are
provisioning,
they're
being
used.
Some
of
them
are
being
used
already
and
then
some
are
coming
online.
But
if
we're
having
these
meetings
remotely
again,
you
have
to
think
about
transporting
the
This
Is
Us
at
TV.
J
They
basically
have
to
be
moving
a
TV
with
a
speaker
with
a
computer,
the
connectivity
making
sure
that
it's
a
good,
reliable
connection
and
again
so
much
of
the
Acoustics
and
like
the
the
layout
of
the
room.
If
there's
a
column,
if
it's
a
long
room
a
lot
of
these
things
kind
of
are
harder
to
to
manage.
Thank.
F
Thank
you
chair.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
your
presentations
and
your
work.
I
do
think
that
well,
the
one
question
I
was
going
to
have
was
how
does
manifest
in
terms
of
resources
both
in
staff
capacity
and
in
real
dollars
for
next
year's
budget.
If
we
are
going
to
do
a
hybrid
option
and
so
I
feel,
like
that's
already
been
asked-
and
it's
already
been
answered,
so
I
will
just
call
out
another
aspect
of
all
this
too.
F
If
we
are
so
the
business
of
the
city
right,
there's,
there's
so
much
that's
going
on
all
at
once.
We
put
a
lot
on
our
staff,
especially
ons
staff
and
I
will
just
say
that
you
know
a
former
friend
of
mine
who
isn't
with
the
city
anymore.
I
mean
when
there
was
a
Butters
meetings
happening
in
East
Boston
in
2018
2019.
F
F
What
I
think
we
would
need
to
fight
for
in
terms
of
staff
and
capacity
through
the
budget
process.
I
know
we
just
talked
about
equipment
and
all
of
that
and
I
love
that
we're
thinking
about
that.
A
hundred
thousand
dollars
is
obviously
a
lot
of
money
and
that
one
particular
apparatus
can't
be
everywhere
all
at
once.
So
I
think
this
is
this
is
twofold.
So
what
does
the
staff
capacity
look
like?
What
do
we
need
to
get
done
and
then
also
just
maybe
a
a
comment
about
taking
advantage
of
our
Innovation
institutions?
F
We
have
MIT
here
we
have
Harvard,
we
have
so
many
incredible
Partners
in
this
work
to
have
The,
Cutting,
Edge
and
modern
technology
that
we
might
need
for
something
like
this.
You
know
that
you're
working
on
it,
but
that's
just
something
I-
would
wanted
to
put
out
onto
the
floor
and
then
would
love
to
hear
about
staff
capacity
needs
and
how
we're
going
to
scale
up
if
we
are
talking
about
a
hybrid
option.
F
G
G
We
need
someone,
that's
actually
specialized
in
technology,
to
accompany
every
single
liaison
to
each
of
Butter's
meetings,
because
if
you
have
one
in
person
and
you're
trying
to
host
a
hybrid
like
do
you
host
on
your
phone
like
because
you're
like
physically
at
the
location.
So
like
all
these
details,
we
want.
We
are.
You
know
actively
thinking
through
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
just
like
ad
hoc,
like
just
making
decisions
and
actually
knowing
the
impact
that
impacts
of
that.
But
it's
not
something
that
I
mean.
G
It
is
something
that
they
were
actively
talking
about
and
thinking
about
on
a
city
in
a
on
a
city-wide
scale,
and
how
do
we
make
it
also
like
Equitable,
because,
like
you
like,
we
like
you
mentioned,
there
are
some
neighborhoods
that
are
seeing
five
abutters
meetings
per
night
and
how
do
we
make
sure
that
we're
not
you
know,
burning
out
our
staff
and
supporting
them
and
also
making
sure
that
residents
are
getting
as
much
information
in
a
timely,
accurate
as
possible?
And
right
now,
we've
seen.
G
We
see
that
the
virtual
option
as
able
we're
able
to
get
the
information
to
them
more
seamlessly,
and
that's
that's
something.
That's
definitely
not
off
the
table,
hybrid
options
or
in
person,
but
making
sure
that
right
now,
that
is,
the
virtual
option
is
where
we're
able
to
get
the
most
information
to
residents.
G
J
All
of
these
meetings
through
the
cable
system,
and
if
you
remember,
with
the
city,
franchises
all
of
the
cable
operators
to
be
able
to
provide
their
services
in
the
city
and
prior
to
zoom,
and
all
these
things,
cable
was
the
way
in
which
you
could
connect
with
residents
that
had
a
hard
time
attending
these
meetings.
Still
at
a
high
proportion,
B
is
used
by
elderly
residents
and
others
to
to
be
able
to
see
it.
J
A
H
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
presentation.
I
really
would
like
to
dig
down
into
the
whole
issue
of
by
The
Potter's
meetings.
I
completely
appreciate
that
our
own
ass
folks,
when
we
did
them
in
person,
I
was
a
new
city
councilor
in
that
sort
of
window
between
January
2020
and
the
middle
of
March,
2020
and
I
have,
and
even
before
that.
H
But
I
have
these
memories
of
standing
in
the
dark
on
the
side
of
the
road
and
break
the
center,
with
the
lot
with
the
attorney
and
the
developer
and
the
the
drawings
on
boards
in
the
dark,
with
flashlights
trying
to
figure
out
what
the
hell
is
going
on,
and
what's
this
about
and
then
and
then
the
folks
who
are
immediate
of
as
many
foxes
could
make
it
come
and
join.
The
conversation,
which
was
very,
very,
very
unsatisfactory.
H
Other
neighbors
would
say,
come
on
over
to
our
house
and
we'll
we'll
have
supper
and
we
can
do
the
we
can
do
the
meeting
meeting.
You
know
from
the
comfort
of
their
own
homes
and
they
were
able
to
participate
and
I.
Think
you
know
I
feel
that
the
the
butters
meetings
in
particular
there
is
a
certain
value
and
being
able
to
go
to
the
site.
H
But
then
very
often
we
support
the
neighbors
by
going
in
daylight
as
a
time
of
their
choosing
and
to
go
and
walk
on
the
site
and
maybe
bring
the
neighbor
the
layers
on
along
as
well
and
just
get
a
sense
of
what
the
neighborhood
neighbors
concerns
are.
And
then,
if
we
have
a
follow-up
about
his
meeting
in
a
virtual
space,
we
can
bring
those
or
we
can
take
those
concerns
to
the
developer
ourselves.
H
H
The
reality
is,
you
know
if
you're
coming
from
Brighton
to
come
to
the
zoning
Board
of
opinion
you're
coming
on
public
transit,
it
can
take
an
hour
and
15
minutes
to
get
here
and
then
you
come
in
and
you
might
have
to
wait
three
hours
for
your
case
to
come
up
and
if
you
come
by
car,
it
takes
20
to
40
minutes,
and
then
you
have
to
pay
for
parking.
You
can't!
Even
where
do
you
park
your
car,
so
I
think
having
the
ability
to
participate
in
the
Zoning
Board
of
appeal.
H
Virtually
has
definitely
got
some
merits
as
well.
I
have
to
say
that
you
know
very
often
there's
only
Board
of
opinion.
Each
case
has
a
very,
very
tight
window,
even
big
projects,
it's
all
done
and
dusted
in
what
15
minutes
or
something
it's
like
come
on
like
like
they
split.
So
even
if
you
do
come
all
the
way
in
here
from
wherever
Dorchester
or
Alston
Brighton
or
whatever,
there's
no
guarantee
that
you'll
be
heard
and
there's
no
guarantee
that
you
know
that
that
you
get
an
any
better
outcome
than
you
would.
H
H
I,
don't
really
like
the
webinar
format
that
we
use
a
lot
in
our
meetings.
I
find
it's
a
way
as
a
counselor
council
president
Flynn
mentioned
you
know
it
feels
like
a
way
to
keep
people
quiet
and
shut
them
up.
I
think
the
webinar
format,
if
it's
a
community
meeting
where
you
really
want
to
get
community
engagement
and
a
dialogue
going
I,
think
just
sticking
to
the
webinar
feels
like
a
little
over
controlling
from
the
point
of
view.
H
H
You
know
you,
you
had
your
chance
to
behave
yourself,
so
I
think
having
been
able
to
facilitate
those
meetings,
virtually
is
really
important.
The
same
would
happen
in
a
virtual
space
and
maybe
more
so
and
I
also
seen
meetings
that
are
huge
meetings
where
there's
a
lot
of
people
where
they
do
breakout
groups.
H
So,
even
if
it's
a
virtual,
a
virtual
meeting,
a
hybrid
meeting,
the
community
can
gather
in
a
community
room
and
participate
in
the
hybrid
meeting
as
a
group
to
a
meeting.
That's
that's
remote
elsewhere
and
I
think
that's
that's
been
really
helpful.
So
and
the
idea
of
developing
Community
hubs
in
our
neighborhoods
within
libraries,
community,
centers
and
non-profit
spaces,
where
you
could
gather
together
and
listen
to
a
presentation,
that's
a
virtual
presentation
and
then
participate
in
that
would
be
really
helpful.
You
know
I,
don't
want
to
throw
the
baby
out
with
the
bathwater.
H
I
think
this
has
been
a
significant
step
forward
in
terms
of
civic
participation.
It's
definitely
got
some
ways
that
we
can
improve
it,
but
you
know
I
really
feel
that
the
value
of
being
able
to
participate
in
our
government
from
remotely
has
been
really
really
helpful
for
people.
So
you
know
I
think,
let's
continue
to
work
on
improving
these
tweaking
it.
H
H
I'm
delighted
to
hear
that
the
downtown
business
is
returning
and
that
we're
getting
more
food
traffic
and
things
are
returning
but
I,
think
the
issue
really
in
terms
of
this
is
not
really
about.
This
issue
is
not
really
about
downtime
business
I.
Don't
think
I
think
this
is
about
civic
participation
and
the
ability
for
us
to
engage
with
our
populace
to
to
have
their
input
into
Community
decisions
in
city,
government
and
I.
Think
that's
me,
I'm
just
talking
and
making
a
statement
rather
than
asking
questions.
Thank
you.
So
much.
A
B
D
I
think
what
we're
all
looking
for
in
our
government
is
to
be
effective,
efficient
and
obviously
there's
this
other
quality
of
building
community
and
finding
ways
to
be
effective
and
efficient,
while
also
building
Community
I.
Think
if
we
can
get
those
three
things,
but
the
question
of
I
have
been
recently
as
a
new
counselor
on
meetings
where
I
have
no
idea
who
is
attending
so
I
would
just
like
to
Second,
especially
for
our
elected
officials.
D
I
think
we
should
know
what
can
community
members
care
about
a
specific
project
and
who
is
on
those
meetings?
So
that's
definitely
a
suggestion.
I
would
offer,
especially
if
things
are
going
to
continue
to
happen
in
webinar
format
is
a
list
of
attendees
who
attended
a
meeting
because
oftentimes
we
get
emails
about
a
specific
project
or
about
a
specific
meeting
and
they're
almost
in
a
vacuum,
because
when
we
attend
the
meeting,
we
don't
know
if
that
person
followed
through
by
attending,
because
it's
in
a
webinar
format.
D
So
I
would
just
add
that
as
something
that
we
really
need
to
think
about,
and
then
I'll
just
add
that,
obviously,
a
lot
of
things
were
covered
today:
Small,
Business,
Development
transportation
and
obviously
our
meeting
format.
Those
things
are
all
I
think
we're
trying
to
build
a
version
of
Boston
where
we
feel
like
those
things
are
like
Transportation
real
estate.
All
these
things
are
really
interconnected
and
so
I
appreciate
I.
D
Think
lot
of
my
comments
were
focused
on
sort
of
the
small
business
and
the
real
estate
element,
because
I
feel
like
I,
knew
the
most
about
those,
but
I
really
appreciate.
Council
Braden's
focus
on
exactly
what
is
good
public
process
and-
and
you
know
how
we're
using
people's
time
and
then
I'll
just
add.
I
did
make
a
mistake.
D
A
L
Thank
you
for
giving
me
this
opportunity.
My
name
is
Anita
Laura
cell
I'm,
the
senior
I'm,
the
director
of
policy
and
research
at
the
downtown
Boston
business
improvement
district.
So
thank
you.
I've
appreciated
this
conversation.
I've
appreciated
your
gratitude
towards
our
work.
It's
great
that
I
can
bring
that
to
my
colleagues
and
the
nuance
and
understanding
of
the
complexity
of
what
we
deal
with
Chief
Edward
took
some
of
my
best
lines.
L
Those
people
need
people
to
come
in
which
we
all
realize
right.
The
other
sort
of
highlight
of
our
work
is
has
been
working
with
the
chief
and
the
city
on
the
space
program
and
the
beauty
of
that
program.
At
this
point
in
time
is
our
ability
to
work
with
new
businesses
or
people
expanding
their
business
from
the
neighborhood
who
have
a
shot
to
come
downtown.
They
might
not
have
had
that
shot
10
years
ago,
when
we
were
in
such
a
rapid
trajectory
of
high
rents
and
low
vacancy.
L
So
we
have
an
opportunity
here
to
bring
people
on
and
we
have
got
two
new
businesses
that
have
signed
leases
downtown
and
we're
working
with
at
least
10
others
to
show
them
businesses
and
we're
planning
to
recruit.
More
and
again
those
folks
starting
a
new
business
down
here
will
need
foot
traffic,
so
my
line
of
work
is
about
physical
space
and
I,
completely
appreciate
the
Nuance
of
participation
and
the
value
of
technology
to
encouraging
it,
but
for
a
physical
space
to
work,
I
need
people
physically
there.
L
Our
businesses
need
people
physically
there.
So
what
I
was
going
to
tell
you
folks
is
that
Within
700.
You
know
what
a
three
minute
walk.
I've
got
20
businesses
around
here
that
will
be
ready
depending
on
your
decisions
and
how
you
choose
to
go
forward
to
welcome
them
as
clients.
Some
will
be
returning.
Some
will
be
new,
but
we're
excited
to
have
them
coming
back.
L
More
people
makes
the
district
more
vibrant,
more
diverse,
more
energetic
and
probably
safer,
at
least
from
a
perception
perspective,
so
those
things
are
very
important
to
us
and
that's
why
we
think
this
is
an
important
ordinance
and
an
important
piece
of
the
city's
plan,
which
has
multiple
levels
to
sort
of
create
a
new
downtown.
So
thank
you.
M
Hi
everyone,
Kade
crockford
I
work
for
the
ACLU
of
Massachusetts,
just
wanted
to
come
to
the
council
to
express
our
appreciation
to
councilor
Braden
for
filing
an
ordinance
to
try
to
put
in
place
some
rules
going
forward
that
can
live
beyond
this
Council
about
hybrid
meetings.
Appreciate
all
the
comments
that
I've
heard
from
the
lawmakers
here
today
about
the
importance
of
providing
folks
an
opportunity
to
listen
in
and
voice
their
thoughts
on
a
public
matter
through
Zoom
or
another
platform
like
that.
M
Instead
of
having
to
show
up
in
person,
we
can't
go
back
to
it
to
the
way
things
were
before
the
pandemic.
Where
you
know,
people
have
to
get
child
care
or
haul
ass
across
the
whole
city
to
attend
a
public
meeting.
That's
just
not
acceptable
anymore,
given
that
we
have
the
technology
to
make
hybrid
things,
keep
possible
for
every
public
meeting
and
I
totally
understand
that
it's
a
logistical
challenge
for
some
of
these
meetings,
and
so
we
at
the
ACLU
are
excited
to
work
with
the
council
and
with
the
administration.
M
M
You
know,
I
think
that
Boston
is
a
unique
community
in
the
sense
that
we
have.
You
know
a
considerable
amount
of
money
compared
to
other
communities,
and
we
also
have
a
whole
lot
of
public
meetings,
probably
like
way
more
than
most
municipalities
in
the
state.
We
have
some
time
here.
The
legislature
has
given
municipalities
until
I.
M
Council
Braden
has
already
started
to
do
some
of
this
work,
but
it
might
behoove
us
to
kind
of
get
it
together
and
formalize
it
a
little
bit
more
because
I
think
there
may
be
some
opportunities
to
deal
with
the
complexities
of
things
like
a
Butters
meetings
happening
all
over
the
city.
And
how
do
we
get
the
equipment
to
the
people
who
need
it?
Maybe
using
public
libraries?
M
Maybe
you
know
having
rooms
in
every
Public
Library
that
are
available
for
these
meetings,
maybe
having
rooms
that
are
available
in
public
school
buildings
which
are
throughout
the
city.
So
anyway,
I
just
wanted
to
express
my
appreciation.
For
the
conversation
say,
the
ACLU
remains
very
interested
in
this
issue
remains
committed
to
getting
something
on
the
books
in
the
law
in
the
city
of
Boston
to
ensure
that
people
have
access
to
these
meetings,
both
in
person
and
through
you
know
through
the
internet.
A
B
B
B
You
know
it
can
be
challenging
I'm.
Fortunate
enough.
My
wife
and
I
are
fortunate
enough
that
that's
not
the
problem
we
have,
but
for
for
many
of
my
constituents.
That
is
a
problem
and
that's
my
job
is
to
advocate
for
them.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
when,
when
we
do
go,
if
this
is
the
way
we
are
going
doesn't
seem
like
we're
we're
going
back.
B
A
Thank
you,
council,
president
Flynn
and
I
know
I
think
we
held
a
hearing,
maybe
like
two
or
three
weeks
ago,
on
a
grant
when
it
came
to
digital
literal
literacy
and
also
increase
in
the
sites
and
also
do
it
we'll
be
working
with
I
believe
some
Public
Health
BHA
public
housing
sites
to
expand.
You
know
their
access,
but
I'll
give
the
flow
to
you.
J
Definitely,
access
Equitable
access
to
digital
resources
and
connectivity,
that's
affordable
of
quality
devices
and
skills
are
essential.
Thanks
to
you
all,
we
received
the
4.7
million
dollars
from
this
the
Commonwealth
to
about
there's
a
number
of
uses
for
the
funds.
There's
I
think
over
700
000
to
be
used
by
DHA
to
help
residents
with
digital
skills
and
we're
also
working
with
Chief
Bach
and
hosted
WSS
some
of
the
performance
issues
that
exist
in
public
housing
and
assets
that
we
can
work
on.
B
Thank
you.
Chief
council
could
I
respawn,
okay,
absolutely
yeah!
Thank
you!
Council
Council!
Well,
Chief
Could,
you
just
one
quick
question:
are
you
able
to
let
me
know
offline
the
number
of
residents
that
do
not
have
adequate
set
up
for
internet
living
in
public
housing,
whether
it's
in
my
district,
but
also
throughout
the
city
as
well?
That
would
be
important
for
me
to
know.
As
we
continue
this
discussion,
you
can
get
that
to
me.
J
Yeah
I
can
comment,
so
this
has
been
part
of
the
quote
and
we
had
a
hearing
a
little
bit
ago
about
this
issue.
So
we,
the
data
that
we
have
from
the
FCC
every
address
serviceable
address
in
Boston,
has
access
to
different
providers.
The
challenge
in
public
housing
is
that
usually
there's
exclusive
agreements
with
one
of
the
providers
and
the
wiring
might
be
old
at
the
some
of
their
networking
equipment.
Yeah
like
when
you
get
the
internet
connection.
J
When
you
get
to
your
build
your
unit,
you
might
need
to
use
a
Wi-Fi
router
that
might
be
old
and
that
might
because
in
performance
issues,
so
we
are
working
long
story
short.
We
don't
have
a
precise
number
on
the
total
number
of
people
that
are
in
public
housing
that
don't
have
adequate
service,
but
we
are
going
to
do.
We
have
funding
to
do
a
deep
assessment
of
three
public
housing
facilities
to
see
in
those
facilities.
What
are
the
issues
so
that
we
can
estimate?
You
know
we'll
try
to
figure
out
representatively?
B
I
I
no
I
understand
that
Chief.
But
if,
if
we're
going
forward
with
this
I
I
can't
have
my
constituents
not
being
part
of
the
process
and
if
we
don't
know
the
answer
about
how
many
residents
living
in
public
housing
that
don't
have
this
type
of
Technology
access,
I
can't
I
can't
go
and
support
a
project
that
my
constituents
are
not
able
to
participate
in.
So
I
guess
my
my
question
is
I
need
to
know
people
living
in
public
housing
who
does
not
have
adequate
digital
access.
J
So
what
I'll
tell
you
is
out
of
58
000
households
that
made
the
eligibility
requirement
for
the
affordable
connectivity
program.
The
city
has
signed
up
44
000
of
those
households.
We
have
the
data
broken
up
by
ZIP
code.
We
don't
get
the
data
by
address,
but
we
get
the
data
by
ZIP
code
I'd
be
happy
to
share
to
you
where
we
based
on
the
data
where
we
think
that
there's
some
gaps
in
in
people
getting
signed
up
for
the
affordable
connectivity
program.
D
D
So
even
the
things
that
I
don't
know
if
other
people
know
I
feel
like
I'm
learning
a
lot
by
just
sitting
here
with
you
three
so
I
really
appreciate
it.
I
guess
my
closing
remarks.
I'll
just
comment
that
I
think
we
can
bring
people
downtown.
We
can
bring
people
to
our
downtown
neighborhoods
and
it
doesn't
have
to
be
in
conflict
with
having
flexible
meetings.
I
think
I've
been
talking
with
a
lot
of
folks
in
the
business
Community
about
how
we
can
activate
downtown
and
I.
Think
the
city
is
doing
an
incredible
job.
D
So
love
to
hear
about
things
happening
in
the
downtown
and
I
think
of
our
cities,
sort
of
like
active
activation
culture
and
all
of
that
stuff
as
things
that
are
really
important
to
District
eight.
So
I
really
appreciate
all
of
that
and
appreciate
Chief
sugar
and
I
do
his
comments
on
Commercial,
Real
Estate
and
what
it
means
for
the
health
of
the
city.
So
I
think
it's
incumbent
upon
all
of
us
as
a
council
to
see
downtown
as
ours
in
some
ways,
because
people,
you
know
I,
think
getting
people
downtown
is
really
important.
D
H
H
You
know
there's
a
lot
of
pros
and
cons
to
Virtual
versus
in
person
in-person
meetings.
If
we're
ever
really
serious
about
Equity,
then
we
have
to
think
about
child
care.
We
have
to
think
meetings
at
the
time
of
the
day
when
folks
are
able
to
attend,
we
have
to
think
of
a
translation.
We
have
to
think
about
accessible
spaces.
We
have
to
think
about
how
and
where
how
people
are
actually
going
to
get
there
in
terms
of
Transit.
So
you
know
I.
Think
the
virtual.
H
The
offering
of
a
hybrid
model
for
participation
in
public
meetings
is
a
really
important
thing
to
do,
and
I
really
feel
that
we
need
to
think
about
Community
hubs
like
Library
spaces,
community,
centers
schools
or
non-profit
spaces,
where,
if,
if
folks,
don't
have
adequate
internet
connectivity
in
their
homes
that
they
can
gather
with
their
neighbors
and
listen
to
a
virtual
presentation
and
ask
questions
and
get
answers
in
that
space,
I
think
I
I.
Really
we
cannot
go
back
to
just
exclusively
in-person
meetings.
It.
H
It
was
challenging
back
then,
and
we've
moved
covert,
has
offered
us
to
an
opportunity
to
experiment
and
innovate
in
a
very
short
space
of
time
and
I.
Think
the
level
of
civic
participation
in
our
meetings
has
got
increased
exponentially
because
of
the
hybrid
options
that
were
available.
So
I
look
forward
to
continuing
the
conversation
and,
let's
see
if
we
can
innovate
further
and
make
this
renewable
and
workable
for
everyone.
Thank
you.
A
No
I
I
agree
with
all
your
statements.
I
I
believe
we
have
to.
You,
know,
move
forward
and
just
like
run
in
water,
and
you
know
your
lights,
you
know
internet
has
become
one
of
those
essential
utilities
that
we
have
to
make
sure
that
that
infrastructure
is
there.
Now,
because
you
know
these
meetings
will
be,
you
know
a
way
of
life,
not
even
just
these
meetings,
like
our
doctors
meetings
are,
are
online
now
as
well.
A
So
whatever
we
could
do,
you
know
Chief
gracias
like
how
can
we
help
event
or
invest
into
the
infrastructure,
to
make
sure
that
you
know
we're
far
reaching
and
that
everyone
is
able
to
participate?
Please
let
us
know,
because
we're
going
to
be
it's
kind
of
crazy
to
say,
but
going
back
into
a
budget
psycho
coming
up
a
little
soon.
It
feels
like
soon,
but
please
let
us
know
so.
A
We
can
start
advocating
on
these
things,
but
also
just
you
know,
Chief
edu,
all
your
work
and
the
city's
work
and
the
bpdas
work
and
your
work
Chief
maloron,
making
sure
that
we
activate
you
know
the
downtown
area
just
kind
of
speaks
to.
You
know
how
we're
making
sure
that
downtown
is
still
strong,
but
also
making
sure
that
every
neighborhood
in
the
city
of
Boston
is
strong
as
well.
A
A
Thank
you
for
all
your
work
on
making
this
possible
and
thank
you
to
my
vice
chair,
councilor
Durkin
I've
been
all
you're
working,
showing
up
ready,
ready
with
great
questions
and,
being
you
know
attentive.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
and
the
docket
number
1044
hearing
to
bring
City
Council
meetings
back
in
person
with
the
hybrid
option
is
now
adjourned.