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City Services & Innovation Technology Hearing - Dockets #1474 - Order to reduce the FY24 appropriation for the Reserve for Collective Bargaining to provide funding for the Boston Fire Department for the FY23 increases contained within the collective bargaining agreements. #1475 - Message and order for a supplemental appropriation Order for the Boston Fire Department for FY24 to cover the FY24 cost contained within the collective bargaining agreements.
A
A
For
the
record,
my
name
is
Brian
Worrell
City
Council
of
District
Four
I
am
chair
of
the
Boston
cities
council's
committee
on
City
service
city
services
and
innovation
technology
I
am
joined
by
my
colleagues,
Council
Louis,
Jen
and
councilor
president
Ed
Flynn.
This
hearing
is
being
recorded
and
live
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at
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A
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comments
may
be
sent
to
the
committee
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made
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of
the
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and
available
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our
counselors
public.
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be
taken
at
the
end
of
this
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A
Today's
hearing
is
on
docket
number
1474
message
in
order
for
your
approval,
in
order
to
reduce
the
fy24
appropriation
for
the
reserve
for
collection,
Bond,
collective
bargaining
by
27
million
357
626
to
provide
funding
for
the
Boston
City
Department
for
the
FY
24
increases
contained
within
the
collective
bargaining
agreements
between
the
city
of
Boston
in
the
International
Association
of
firefighters.
The
eye
also
known
as
The
iaff
Local
718.
A
The
major
provisions
of
this
contract
include
base
wages,
increases
of
three
percent
three
percent
and
2.5
percent
to
be
given
in
July
of
each
fiscal
year
of
the
contract
term.
I
will
now
turn
it
over
to
my
colleagues
and
Order
arrival
for
any
opening
statements,
starting
first
with
Council
Louisiana.
The
floor
is
yours.
B
On
getting
Shin
collective
bargaining
agreement,
it
shows
what
can
happen
when
we
come
around
the
table
and
try
to
map
things
out
and
figure
things
out
so
happy
that
we
are
here
and
that
we've
reached
a
resolution.
Just
have
a
few
questions
regarding
the
agreement
that
was
reached,
and
hopefully
we
put
mechanisms
in
place
in
the
future
so
that
we
don't
have
a
Municipal
Employees
working,
not
under
contract.
B
I,
believe
that
this
Administration
has
worked
incredibly
well
with
trying
to
make
sure
that
all
of
our
expired
contracts
with
Municipal
Employees
are
bring
them
up
to
date,
but
based
on
this
timing
next
year,
we're
right
back
at
the
table
again.
So
hopefully
we
can
continue
to
be
on
time
so
that
we
don't
have
to
have
Municipal
Employees
working,
not
under
contract.
So
thank
you
to
Administration
and
thank
you
to
Firefighters
for
all
of
your
work
on
have
our
city.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
Mr
chair,
thank
you
to
the
administration
panel.
That's
here.
There's
also
want
to
acknowledge
the
members
of
the
Boston
firefighters,
Union,
Local
718,
for
their
professional
professionalism
during
this
period,
in
their
incredible
work
that
they've
been
doing
as
firefighters,
men
and
women
of
the
Boston
firefighters
are
play
a
critical
role
in
our
city,
I'm
glad
that
both
sides
are
able
to
come
together.
C
A
Thank
you,
council
president
Flynn,
and
we
do
have
two
letter
of
absences,
one
from
councilor
Murphy
and
the
other
one
from
Council
Baker
I
read.
Both
I
would
read
both
of
them
into
the
record
September
25th,
2023,
dockets
1474-1475,
to
hearing
regarding
collective
bargaining
agreements
between
the
city
of
Boston
and
the
International
Association
of
firefighters.
A
In
particular,
I'd
like
to
recognize
the
International
Association
of
firefighters,
Local
718
and
as
president
Sam
dillian
for
the
persistence
and
good
faith
bargaining
with
the
city,
our
Boston
firefighters
are
among
the
very
finest
our
city
has
to
offer
and
we're
grateful
for
their
service
day
in
and
day
out.
They
deserve
just
wages
and
benefits
reached
collectively,
and
disagreement
represents
just
that.
My
staff
will
be
in
attendance
at
the
meeting.
Should
any
member
of
the
committee
of
the
or
the
public
have
any
questions
please
reach
out
to
my
office
at.
A
Today's
hearing
on
Dr
number
1474
order
to
reduce
the
fy24
appropriation
for
the
reserve
for
collective
bargaining
to
provide
funding
for
the
Boston
fire
department
for
the
FY
23
increases
contained
within
the
collective
bargaining
agreements
and
docket
number
1475
message
in
order
for
supplemental
appropriation
order
for
the
Boston
fire
department
for
fy24
to
cover
the
FY
24
cost
contained
within
the
collective
bargaining
agreements.
Please
know
that
I
am
full
support
of
this
collective
bargaining
agreement
for
the
Boston
fire
department.
I,
look
forward
to
voting
in
favor
of
these
dockets.
A
Please
do
not
hesitate
to
reach
out
to
me
direct
reach.
You
have
any
questions
since
sincerely:
Frank
Frank,
Baker,
Boston
city,
council,
District
3.
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
administration.
Thank
you
to
Local
718.
Our
city
relies
Upon,
Our,
firefighters
and
from
protecting
life
and
property
during
emergencies
to
provide
medical
support
to
ensuring
businesses
operate
safely.
A
Our
firefighters
regularly
put
their
lives
on
the
line
to
serve
our
city
and,
as
mentioned,
and
the
the
letters
and
from
some
of
our
from
some
foreign
colleagues
here,
you
know
we
do
have
some
of
the
finest
in
the
country
and
as
Boston
Works,
to
update
its
labor
contracts.
I'm
glad
to
see
both
sides
come
to
an
agreement
and
I
look
forward
to
taking
this
opportunity
to
hear
from
to
hear
about
the
new
contract
Provisions
between
the
International
Association
of
firefighters
in
the
city
of
Boston,
and
look
forward
to
the
discussion
from
the
administration.
A
D
My
name
is
Jim
Williamson
I'm,
the
budget
director
here
at
the
city
of
Boston,
and
we
appreciate
this
opportunity
to
provide
information
about
the
firefighter
Union
contract
and
its
impact
on
the
city's
budget.
It's
important
to
acknowledge
the
shared
responsibility.
The
city
council
has
jointly
with
the
administration
to
safeguard
and
manage
limited
public
resources
in
this
critical
role.
That's
been
entrusted
us,
but
To
Us
by
the
people
of
Boston
I'm
here
to
address
the
two
appropriation
orders
before
you
and
the
transactions
they
represent.
I'm
also
joined
by
my
colleague,
Lou
mandarini.
D
E
This
is
a
significant
achievement,
closing
a
contract
with
Local
718
to
the
points
that
you
may
councilor
luigien.
We
continue
to
dig
out
of
a
hole
that
we
inherited
when
we
came
in
between
2020
and
2021,
with
every
contract
in
the
city
expired.
The
reality
of
that
is
that
contracts
we
settled
when
we
came
in
we're
already
two
years
expired
and
are
expiring
a
year
later.
E
So
this
is
a
contract
that
goes
back
to
July
1
of
2021
and
goes
to
June
30th
of
next
year,
so
the
reality
is
just
practically
we're
going
to
be
back
at
the
table
with
Local
718
in
the
spring.
This
is
something
that
the
mayor
has
promised
repeatedly
that
we
hope
to
alleviate
by
trying
to
keep
our
city
workers
under
contract
as
an
operational
imperative
going
forward.
E
B
B
I
think
that
it
shows
that
we
can
work
together
to
solve
issues
and
making
sure
that
we
are
paying
our
workers
I'm
happy
to
see
the
pain,
increases.
I
think
it's
incredibly
important
that
we
pay
Municipal
workers
they're
just
due
when
they
give
so
much
to
the
city.
Just
have
a
question
in
terms
of
have
we
looked
at
sort
of
the
differences
in
ongoing
disparity
between
pay
between
sworn
Municipal
workers
and
civilian
Municipal
workers,
and
is
there
a
plan
to
sort
of
figure
out
like?
E
I
will
say:
counselor,
it's
I
mean
as
we
as
we
go
into
what
will
be
the
next
round
of
bargaining
because
we've
got
you
know
the
contracts
that
we
settled
have
now
started
to
expire,
June,
30th
of
2023.
So
you
know
this
next
round
that
we
do
will
go
forward
three
years,
which
will
enable
us
to
sort
of
set
our
own
policy.
Yes,
it
is
an
issue
that
we
are
taking
a
look
at
that
you
know
workers
below
a
certain
threshold
of
income.
E
You
know
we're
targeting
the
ability
in
our
processes
and
haven't
made
final
decisions
yet,
but
workers
below
a
certain
income
threshold
are
a
primary
focus
of
what
we're
doing
in
the
next
round
of
bargaining.
I'm,
not
hiding
the
ball,
because
you
know
there
are
several
options
that
we're
pursuing
and
you
will
will
certainly
be
apprised
of
that
in
due
course,
but
I'll
suffice
to
say
that
it's
a
it's
a
primary
focus
in
this
next
round
of
bargaining,
civilian
workers
and
workers
below
a
certain
income
threshold.
B
In
England,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
Chief
Lawrence
because
she
is
work
helping
working
with
our
office
in
of
our
municipal,
low-wage
or
understudy.
So
I
really
appreciate
that
one
of
the
things
that
I
I
also
have
some
specific
language
questions.
When
you
look
back
at
the
past
CBA
the
one
it's
the
past,
MOA
that
we
have
it
is
the
2017
to
2018
one
and
the
2018
to
2021.
There's
a
section.
B
E
B
Good,
too,
that
there
are
some
language
changes
that
are
more
in
line
sort
of
with
what
the
city
wanted
with
City
policy
here
in
section
eight
we
it's
called
maternity
leave.
I
was
wondering
if
there
could
also
be
a
language
update
to
just
make
it
universal
language
that
is
Parental
leave
so
that
we
are
using,
where
possible,
gender
neutral
language
that
will
help
and
encourage
folks
to
take
parentally
regardless,
if
they
are
the
mother
or
the
father,
and
so
just
hoping.
B
Thank
you
and
then
questions
are
in
terms
of
what's
not
necessarily
written
out,
and
this
is
also
more
Global
for
probably
cbh
generally
in
terms
of
like
trying
to
using
them
as
a
way
to
encourage
or
or
for
the
city,
to
bargain
or
negotiate
with
Municipal
unions
regarding
efforts
around
diversity
and
inclusion
and
promotion.
So
does
that
ever
happen
within
the
umbrella
of
the
CBA?
And
it's
just
not
happening
now
or
is
that?
Is
there
another
form
under
which,
like
those
discussions,
happen.
E
Certainly
you
know
the
hiring
process
under
civil
service,
particularly
you
know,
in
for
the
sworn
unions,
I
mean
that's
a
you
know,
that's
a
that's
a
situation
where
you
have
a
certain
pot
of
employees
that
are
hired,
and
you
know
it
is
it
is.
You
know
it
is
a
bar
to
the
the
sort
of
velocity
of
the
diversification
we'd
like
to
do.
But
yes,
I
mean
that's
that
largely
those
efforts
are
made
outside
of
collective
bargaining.
I
guess
is
the
real
Fair
answer
to
your
question.
E
B
Just
wondering
like
the
cadet
program,
if
there
are
things
that
we
learn
from
that
that
can
inform
the
CBA
process
or
similar
continued
advocacy
and
I,
don't
know
what
the
update
is
here
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
firehouses
have
either
gender
neutral
bathrooms
or
women's
bathrooms.
I
know
that's
been
a
push
so
wondering
if,
where
you
know,
what's
the
proper
venue
for
those
discussions.
E
I
would
think
that
those
would
more
properly
be
considered
sort
of
management,
things
that
are
done
by
the
administration,
as
opposed
to
things
that
we
would
bargain
over.
Although
I'm
sure
the
union
would
have
some
thoughts
on
it
and
we're
always
glad
to
listen
but
I
think
those
are
managerial
prerogatives.
B
Okay
and
then,
lastly,
with
respect
to
you
know,
we've
had
the
opportunity
to
learn
more
about
the
gear
that
firefighters
use
and
how,
if
we
were
really
investing
in
our
truly
investing
in
our
fire
department,
we'd
be
able
to
have
gear.
That
would
be
more
preventative.
That
would
really
address
the
issues
of
health
and
safety
with
respect
to
equipment
wondering
if
the
cbas
lent
to
themselves
to
having
that
discussion
over
again,
like
you
stated,
if
those
are
management,
discussions
want
to
make
sure
that
folks
feel
protected,
and
you
know
we've
learned.
E
B
Thank
you
and
I
just
put
those
on
the
table,
even
though
they're
not
part
of
this
one.
We
have
a
summary
of
changes
that,
like
you,
stated
we're
going
to
be
back
at
the
bargaining
table
relatively
within
short
order,
for
so
perhaps
things
for
us
to
make
sure
we
are
taking
into
consideration
getting
right.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Mr
chair.
B
C
C
On
on
any,
what
are
the
updates?
Lou
as
it
relates
to
leave
practices
for
people
for
firefighters,
serving
in
the
military
and
and
I
bring
that
up,
because
I've
been
frustrated
for
for
for
a
long
period
of
time,
when
I
see
cuts
to
Veterans
Services,
whether
they're
at
a
city
department
or
or
in
outside,
in
a
non-profit
world
or
throughout
the
city
throughout
the
country,
the
VA
is
the
federal
government
is
going
to
shut
down.
Probably
this
week,
we'll
have
a
significant
impact
on
Veterans.
E
In
this
particular
contract,
it's
not
something
we
touched
on,
but
I
am
familiar
with
the
work
that
you've
done
with
the
draft
home
rule
petition
and
both
the
administration
and
the
union
had
a
pretty
good
discussion
last
week
about
some
of
the
issues
that
that
touches
on
and
we're
going
to
continue
to
have
a
working
group
going
forward.
You
know
dealing
with
those
issues,
but
the
fair
answer
to
your
question.
E
Is
this
contract
didn't
tackle
that
issue,
but
we
are
having
a
working
group
and
I
think
we
certainly
from
the
administration
standpoint,
found
the
discussion.
We
had
fruitful
last
week
to
understand
what
the
issues
are
and
what
the
what
the
union
and
the
advocacy
groups
are
trying
to
do,
and
we
look
forward
to
continuing
those
discussions
and
seeing
if
we
can
make
progress.
C
When
we
go
forward
on
contract
negotiations,
can
we
also
ensure
that
for
our
Public
Safety
unions,
especially
Public
Safety
departments,
that
many
of
them
are
made
up
of
veterans,
and
we
should
recognize
that
that
their
families,
these
military
families,
that
sacrificed
greatly
for
our
nation,
should
be
part
of
the
discussion
in
how
we
support
them
and
we're
not
giving
them
anything?
They've
they've
earned
a
lot
of
these
benefits,
but
I
want
to
ask
Will
you
factor
and
take
that
into
consideration
going
forward.
That
veterans
are
also
part
of
the
discussion.
C
E
Well,
I'm
gonna
confine
myself
to
today
to
what
we
discussed
in
this
round
of
bargaining
it
just
it
didn't
come
up
and
it
was
not.
It
was
not
I.
You
know,
I
think
the
most
direct
answer
to
your
question
is
that
you
know
that's
just
not
something
that
we
tackled
so
I
understand
your
advocacy
and
again
we're
always
listening,
but
that's
not
something
we
discussed
in
this
round
of
negotiations
well.
C
D
C
Right,
well,
that's
important
Jim!
What
council
flower
has
been
advocating
that,
along
with
other
councils
for
a
long
period
of
time
and
that's
important
for
public
safety
for
residents
across
the
city,
but
you
will
work
with
us
to
come
up
with
a
plan.
Hopefully
we
can
get
that
in
the
budget.
I'm,
not
asking
you
to
make
a
commitment
right
now,
but
I'm
asking
you
to
work
with
us
because
we're
getting
calls
all
all
day,
not
not
just
from
the
fire
department
from
residents
across
the
city
about
how
important
it
is
to
get
car
five.
C
C
Mr,
chair
I
have
no
further
further
question,
but
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
thank
you
to
Lou.
Thank
you
to
Jim
to
the
administration
team,
but
especially
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
men
and
women
of
the
fight
apartment,
a
local
70,
7
18
for
always
being
professional
hard
working
advocating
for
their
members
in
the
in
the
most
professional
manner.
So
I
want
to
thank
I
want
to
thank
the
the
union
for
being
here
as.
F
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
both
so
much
for
being
here
and
for
your
work
on
this
contract.
I
want
to
thank
the
incredible
men
and
women
of
the
fire
department
and
thank
you
so
much
to
the
Local
718
for
being
here.
I
got
that
one
right
this
time,
7
18
and
you
know
just
in
general,
to
the
administration
in
in
its
commitment
to
supporting
our
city
workers
and
determination
to
get
this
contract
done.
F
So
thank
you
for
cleaning
up,
as
you
had
referenced,
Lou
I
do
I
want
to
say
how
supportive
I
am
of
this.
Of
this
docket
and
of
this
agreement.
I
am
happy
to
see
the
pay
increases
for
everybody.
Everybody
deserves
a
living
wage
I'm
also
happy
to
hear
that
we're
going
to
be
prioritizing
our
lowest
paid
workers
moving
forward
and
I
look
forward
to
understanding
how
those
conversations
are
going
and
and
those
discussions
I
think.
F
One
thing
I
wanted
to
uplift
in
this
space
is
very
similar
to
what
council
region
had
mentioned,
but
just
the
fact
that
the
jobs
that
we
are
discussing
here
are
arterably,
some
of
the
highest
paid
jobs
in
the
city
of
Boston,
and
rightly
so.
These
folks
are
running
into
burning
buildings.
They
are
superheroes,
Among,
Us,
I'm,
gonna,
also
uplift.
The
fact
that
a
report
that
had
come
out
a
couple
years
ago
said
that
17
of
our
1500
firefighters
are
women
and
I
know
that
this
is
something
that
the
fire
department
is
working
on.
F
Local
718
is
working
on.
It,
I
had
conversations
with
Sam
directly
on
this
very
issue,
and
so
I
know
that
there
is
work
moving
forward,
but
it
is
an
economic
mobility
issue
when
we
are
largely
excluding
our
women
from
some
of
the
highest
paid
positions
in
the
city
of
Boston
I,
don't
know
what
the
administrative
side
looks
like.
There
are
some
physical
limitations
to
being
a
firefighter
I
know.
Personally,
I
went
to
their
field
day
that
they
had
at
the
Boston
Common,
where
I
could
not
lift
a
certain
piece
of
equipment.
F
So
I
know
how
difficult
it
is,
but
I
would
love
to
understand
Pathways
to
administrative
roles,
Chiefs
whatever
that
might
look
like
moving
forward.
I
know
it's
not
necessarily
dictated
by
the
collective
bargaining
agreement,
but
I
did
want
to
uplift
it
here
in
this
space.
I
guess
the
only
other
question
that
I
have
and
while
we're
on
the
topic
of
advocacy,
is
advocate
for
fire
station
in
Charlestown,
which
was
identified
as
a
need
by
our
neighborhood
needs
analysis
through
the
Boston
plan,
the
development
agency
and
then
just
a
stupid
question.
F
F
D
I
I
think
with
the
retroactive
pain
it
takes
a
while
from
the
calculator
but
that
they're
they're
paid
in
like
one
lump
sum
in
the
current
fiscal
year
and
then
the
part
of
the
earnings
that
relate
to
the
prior
fiscal
years
are
moved
into
reserves
that
were
established
for
that
purpose.
At
your
end
of
those
those
years.
So,
okay.
F
G
G
You
know,
as
we
move
into
a
stage
and
I
appreciate.
Lou's
comments
about
making
sure
you
know
being
left
with
a
lot
of
incomplete
and
expired
contracts
is
not
an
easy
position
for
the
administration
to
be
in
so
appreciate
their
work
to
swiftly
make
sure
our
city
workers
are
operating
under
new
and
recent
collective
bargaining
agreements
just
wanted
to
mention
that
I
stopped
by
my
local
ladder,
24
in
Beacon
Hill,
and
met
some
firefighters
who
were
extremely
excited
about.
G
There
had
been
an
agreement
that
that
was
created
and
urged
me
to
support
it.
So
I
appreciated
the
local,
my
local
ladder
for
urging
me
to
support
and
and
to
participate
in
this
hearing,
and
we
know
that
our
firefighters
living
right
next
to
a
ladder
I
know
that
our
firefighters
are
often
the
first
people
to
respond
to
all
sorts
of
things.
Not
just
fires
in
our
city
so
appreciate
appreciate
the
work
of
our
firefighters
and
I
want
to
just
uplift.
G
You
know,
as
counselor
Clara
was
talking
about
sort
of
as
we
talk
about
diversity
and
Leadership
and
city
jobs.
It's
really
important
for
the
the
health
of
our
city
that
everyone
be
able
to
have
access
to
good,
but
it
sounds
like
there's
work
being
done
and
appreciate
the
work
of
Local
718
on
that
those
particular
matters
and
I
just
wanted
to
ask
a
little
bit
more
about
the
hazard
pay
bump.
I
I
have
met
with
a
lot
of
local
union
leaders
who
talk
about
Hazard
pay
and
Lou.
E
So
hazardous
duty
is
something
that
all
members
of
the
bargaining
unit
get
and
it
comes
in
various
forms,
but
it
has,
you
know
a
lot
to
do
with
the
nature
of
the
work
and
that
there's
a
sort
of
infinite
variety
of
ways
that
firefighters
can
be
exposed
to.
You
know
hazardous
or
carcinogenic
conditions
I.
You
know
it
it
aside
from
it
applying
to
all
firefighters
because
of
the
nature
of
their
work.
E
G
E
G
So
as
I've
been
you
know,
I
got
a
couple.
Emails
urging
me
to
support
this
and
I
want
to
be
very
clear
that
you
know
as
a
city,
councilor
I
respect
the
administration's
role
in
in
in
creating
these
collective
bargaining
agreements
and
working
with
local
unions
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
everything
we
can
to
support
our
city
workers
I
just
want
to
thank
you
guys
for
all
the
energy
and
time
and
partnership
that
went
into
this.
So
thank
you
so
much
thank.
H
Council
clarity,
thank
you
Mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
for
for
hosting
an
expedited
hearing.
A
lot
of
the
entire
membership
of
718
has
almost
three
years
without
a
contract
so
Expediting
this
I
know
I
can
speak
for
all
of
our
colleagues.
We
appreciate
your
attention
to
turning
this
around
as
quickly
as
possible.
H
After
we
do
our
due
diligence
so
kudos
to
you
is
the
chair
and
good
morning
to
both
Lou
and
Jim
Jim
I'll,
just
that,
obviously,
as
you're
aware,
the
increase
in
Development
Across,
the
city
and
and
the
increase
in
population
and
the
projected
trends
of
population
will
continue
to
put
demands
on
our
fire.
Our
police,
our
EMS,
along
with
Public
Works
Transportation
trash
collection,
all
of
it
so
keeping
an
eye
towards
that
type
of
growth
and
development
will
will
be
key
in
in
in
future
budgets
and
hopefully
to
Echo.
H
My
colleague
council
president
Flynn
that
the
table
of
organization
will
include
a
car
five
and
of
the
mayor
and
her
wisdom
can
be
creative
in
terms
of
filling
the
void
it
over
it
in
in
the
car
five
region,
but
also
maybe
we
could
do
something
on
the
lab
side
of
the
house.
We
don't
really
have
a
lab
Chief.
In
fact,
we
don't
have
a
lab
Chief
so
and
we're
down
I.
H
Think
given
lab
demand
here
in
the
city
of
Boston,
which
is
now
encroaching
on
our
neighborhood,
so
having
a
lab
Chief,
maybe
in
concert-
or
maybe
they
wear-
two
hats.
They
wear
a
lab,
Chief
hat
and
a
car
five
Chief,
half
but
I-
think
that's
not
long
overdue.
So
I'll
continue
to
bang
the
pots
and
pans
on
that
until
until
my
10-year
expires,
I
want
to
talk
obviously
about
the
Hazardous
Duty,
very
welcome
to
see
that
the
compensation
rate
will
be
included
and
be
upgraded
if
it
hazardous.
H
My
colleagues
had
questions
I
think
on
working
agreements.
In
my
experience
here
there
they're
negotiated
between
labor
and
management
as
as
Lou
has
described.
They're,
not
part
of
collective
bargaining
and
promotions
are,
are
managed
and
overseen
by
human
resource
department
and
it's
based
solely
on
Civil
Service
rules
and
laws.
No
politics,
no
mayor,
no
Union,
no
Administration,
no
City
Council
can
can
meddle
with
that
process,
and
so
I
will
say
that
I
did
read
something
regarding
who
I
consider
to
be
the
unsung
heroes
of
the
Boston
fire
department.
H
That's
the
headquarter
staff,
and
so
it's
my
hope
that
we're
going
to
come
to
a
fair
and
expedited
resolution
for
the
men
and
women
that
work
over
at
Southampton
Street
and
as
well
as
at
a
training
facility.
They
they
manage
the
day-to-day
Personnel.
They
deal
with.
All
the
other
agencies
like
the
MBTA
Boston
Water
and
Sewer
National
Grid
key
span
Etc
our
colleges,
our
universities,
our
labs.
H
They
set
the
standards
for
firefighter
safety,
as
well
as
the
Training
Division
that
working
with
718
has
put
a
Boston
fire
department
on
cutting
edge
of
new
and
best
practices
that
have
emulated
by
fire
departments
across
the
city.
So
hopefully
we
can
get
back
to
the
table
or
have
something
resolved
quickly
for
for
those
individuals
of
the
real
behind
the
scenes,
unsung
heroes,
and
with
that
I
just
appreciate
the
fact
that
we
get
another
one
done.
This
will
be
how
many
for
you
Lou.
E
We
do
well
yeah
I
mean
we're
still.
You
know,
as
we
said
in
the
opening,
I
mean
we're
still
digging
out
of
I
mean
all
48
were
expired
when
we
came
in
so
by
the
time
we
settled
them,
they
were
two
years
gone.
We
had
a
year
to
go
this
next
time
when
we
settle
them,
we're
going
to
have
our
own
full
Bank
of
time.
E
You
know
the
full
three
years
that
Massachusetts
public
sector
law
allows
you,
and
you
know
the
mayor
has
committed
to
dry
very,
very
hard
to
keep
people
under
contract.
That's
a
real
operational
imperative
for
the
administration.
She
said
it
repeatedly.
She
believes
it
and
she
has
charged
the
team
with
doing
it.
So
yeah,
it's
pretty
important.
H
Yeah
and
obviously,
and
and
I
we
appreciate
it.
So
the
city
council
appreciates
that,
on
behalf
of
the
residents
and
city
employees,
that
we
kind
of
deal
with
these
as
quickly
as
efficiently
as
possible
and
because
it's
hard
to
believe
we're
gonna,
you
guys
negotiated
in
good
faith
with
the
Union
they've
already
ratified
it.
H
This
Council
now
is
going
through
this
process
and
through
the
chair
will
be
issuing
some
committee
committee
report,
I,
should
say
on
our
next,
probably
most
likely
our
next
council
meeting
and
then
to
realize
that
you're
going
to
have
to
be
right
back
at
the
table
with
780
seven
six,
seven,
eight
months
nine
months.
Yes,.
H
Our
goal
to
do
another
round
of
it,
so
anything
you
can
do
obviously
within
the
administration
to
kind
of
get
these
things
on
a
track.
Where
yeah,
you
know
we're,
not
really,
you
know
we're
basically
dealing
with
a
retro.
You
know
we're
come
to
terms,
we
approve
it
and
then
we
get
a
retro
and
we're
right
back
to
the
table
and
if
we
can
be,
you
know
we're
talking
about.
You
know,
colleagues
of
reference
working
agreements
and
things
like
that.
That's
all
stuff
that
takes
place.
H
E
E
E
E
H
A
Thank
you,
Council
Flair,
and
thank
you
for
you
know,
helping
making
this
hearing.
You
know
today
possible
by
rearranging
some
other
things,
to
make
sure
that
we,
you
know,
had
this
contract
heard
before
next
council
meeting
I
just
have
one
question:
it's
kind
of
along
the
diversity
lines,
and
it's
something
that
we
saw
brought
up
in
the
other
contracts
was,
you
know
the
more
flexibility
around
holiday
scheduling
was
was
this?
E
A
E
So
that
has
to
do
with
that
has
to
do
with
vacation
scheduling
and
one
of
the
big
Concepts,
and
actually
this
is
a
win.
You
know
in
some
ways
this
is
sort
of
how
collective
bargaining
should
work,
because
it's
a
win
for
both
sides,
but
right
now,
there's
language
in
you
know
language
in
the
contract
right
now
where
officers
have
to
find
their
own
coverage
when
they
take
leave-
and
you
know
it
can
oftentimes-
be
a
difficult
situation
and
it's
mandated
though
so
actually
so.
E
Or
could
companies
drink,
take
care
of
it
without
having
to
have
that
coverage
so
rather
than
mandating
it,
it
actually
gives
more
flexibility
to
the
union
to
may
or
may
not
find
somebody
to
cover,
but
it
also
gives
the
department
the
ability
to
look
at
company
strength
and
make
the
determination
of
whether
they
need
someone
to
do
that.
Or
is
the
company
strength
strong
enough
that
they
could
go
without
it?
So
that's
one
of
the
ones
that
actually
really
does
nice
work
for
both
sides.
Awesome.
A
No
further
questions
from
me
any
of
the
counsels
with
any
questions
all
right.
Well,
thank
you,
Lou
and
Jim.
Thank
you
for
all
your
hard
work
on
this
contract.
Thank
you
and
now
we'll
go
to
public
testimony.
We
have
one
person
signed
up
for
public
testimony,
Sam
Dylan
from
local
718.,
please
state
your
name
and
any
associations
and
you'll
have
three
minutes.
I
also
want
to
say
also
join
here
today
by
Leroy
Hayward
and
Randy
Greeley
from
also
local
718.
I
Good
morning
my
name
is
Sam
Dillon
I'm,
the
president
of
Boston,
firefighters,
local
718..
Thank
you
for
recognizing
my
colleagues
who
are
here
with
me
as
well.
Vice
president
Leroy
Haywood
and
Randy
Greeley,
our
senior
legislative
rep
I'd
like
to
thank
the
city
council,
particularly
committee
chair,
Worrell
council,
president
Flynn,
for
the
opportunity
to
address
the
hearing
this
morning.
Thank
you
as
well
to
council
at
Flaherty
for
reorganizing
a
very
busy
schedule
in
order
to
accommodate
all
of
us
here
today
to
the
other
elected
officials
and
council
is
here.
I
I
personally,
can't
say
enough
about
the
men
and
women
of
Local
718
that
we
are
Beyond
privileged
to
represent
and
have
working
for
us
and
have
to
be
a
part
of
our
Union.
The
daily
Services
provided
by
the
Boston
fire
department
speak
for
themselves.
Over
the
past
several
years,
we've
watched
both
the
expectations
and
responsibilities
of
our
firefighters,
greatly
increase
over
the
past
several
years.
I
We've
also
continued
to
watch
Boston,
firefighters
rise
to
the
occasion
and
answer
any
and
all
emergency
services
or
situations
that
they
encounter
house
fires,
building
fires,
building
collapses,
the
global
pandemic
and
its
impact
on
our
city,
the
opioid
crisis,
day-to-day
medicals.
If
you
name
it,
if
you
can
name
it
and
you
call
9-1-1
chances
are
the
Boston
fire
department
is
going
to
respond,
and
our
people
do
so
out
of
an
incredible
call.
I
The
service,
an
incredible
dedication
to
believing
in
things
that
are
more
important
for
themselves,
I,
couldn't
be
any
prouder
to
represent
Local
718
I,
couldn't
be
any
prouder
of
our
firefighters
and
what
they
do
and
I
ask
all
of
you
for
your
support
on
this
agreement.
I
know
that
there
were
some
questions
in
the
testimony
that
just
took
place
if
it's
appropriate
I'm
able
to
answer
any
and
all
questions
that
you
may
have.
Thank
you.
I
I
I
I
There
are
standards
that
are
in
place
and
that's
not
to
say
that
certain
people
can't
meet
any
type
of
standard
because
I
watch
them
do
it
every
single
day.
These
standards
are
immovable
based
on
the
nature
of
our
profession,
because
the
nature
of
our
profession
is
life
or
death
I
and,
on
behalf
of
Local
718.
I
Welcome
any
person
out
there,
male
female
any
other,
distinguishing
qualifying
factor
that
they
represent
I
welcome
and
encourage
them
to
undertake
the
challenge
of
trying
to
become
a
Boston
firefighter
and
if
that's
something
that
they
want
to
do,
and
if
that's
a
standard
that
they
can
meet.
I
promise
you
right
here
and
now.
Local
718
will
bring
them
in
and
we
will
represent
them
to
the
very
fullest,
like
we
do
all
of
our
members.
Right
now,.
C
C
I
I'm
not
gonna
I
can't
speak
for
the
Department.
I
could
speak
for
the
union,
which
is
to
say
that
we
are
in
the
process
of
aggressively
tackling
these
issues.
We've
had
great
conversations
with
our
commissioner
with
the
fire
department
about
that
within
the
state
in
the
final
stages,
right
now
of
putting
together
an
aggressive,
in-depth
occupational
hazards,
study
that
we're
gonna,
all
of
our
active
members
and
retired
members
are
going
to
be
have
access
to
this
and
be
encouraged
to
participate.
I
I
think
the
biggest
thing
not
just
for
our
retired
members
and
I'll
say
this
as
an
active
member,
we're
tired
of
looking
over
our
shoulder
on
average
once
every
three
weeks,
a
Boston
firefighter
is
diagnosed
with
occupational
cancer,
whether
that
be
active
or
retired,
I
think
you'd
be
very
you'd,
be
very
hard-pressed
to
find
any
other
profession
in
this
city
or
elsewhere.
That's
dealing
with
occupational
hazards
and
occupational
cancers
to
that
extreme.
I
That's
outside
the
scope
of
collective
bargaining,
because
that
to
me
isn't
a
wage
or
workplace
condition.
That's
that's
about
doing
the
right
thing
and
by
virtue
of
taking
this
job
by
virtue
of
serving
the
city,
the
way
that
we
do
I'm
not
going
to
live
as
long
as
I,
otherwise
would
have
our
retired
members
are
not
going
to
enjoy
a
lengthy
retirement
compared
to
other
professions.
That's
a
sacrifice
that
we
proudly
take
on.
I
That's
a
sacrifice
that
I
would
ask
the
city
and
our
elected
officials
to
take
on
on
our
behalf
to
confront
these
issues.
This
is
a
very
dangerous
job
and
we
Embrace
that.
But
what
we've
learned
over
just
the
past
couple
years,
there's
other
contributing
factors
that
we
were
never
aware
of.
Now
a
burning
building
is
dangerous.
We
know
that
exposure
to
carcinogens
at
a
fire
we've
known
about
that
we're
just
now.
C
That
thank
you,
Sam
and
my
my
final
point
and
want
to
acknowledge
my
colleague,
Council
Flaherty
I,
know
he's
leaving
the
bodies
soon,
but
those
are
the
issues
that
you've
championed
Michael
in
in
really
Michael.
You
championed
that
and
you'll
learn
from
your
father,
who
is
really
the
elected
official
across
Massachusetts
that
did
so
much
for
firefighters
up
at
the
state
house.
Getting
legislation
passed
so
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
Michael's
dad
that
did
a
tremendous
job
advocating
for
fire,
firemen
and
firefighters
and
their
families.
A
Thank
you
council,
president
Flynn.
Thank
you
to
the
administration.
Thank
you
to
Local
718
for
all
your
work
and
docket,
and
thank
you
to
Central
staff.
Shane
pack,
arnita
Ethan
Candace
man,
who
am
I
missing.
Cora
Shane,
who
am
I
missing,
am
I
missing
anyone
else,
I
said
arnita.
All
right,
I
feel
like
I'm
missing
someone
else
Ron.
Thank
you
the
whole
essential
staff
and
thank
you
to
all
who's
listening
in
docket
number
1474
and
docket
number
1475.