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From YouTube: Civil Rights & Immigrant Advancement on May 22, 2023
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Civil Rights & Immigrant Advancement-Dockets #0928-A hearing regarding the federal court order to pass a new Council district map. #0930- Message and ordinance amending City Council electoral districts. #0935-Documents regarding redistricting litigation. #0936-Documents regarding minutes of the Committee on Redistricting and messages of disapproval. #0937- Documents regarding redistricting archival records. #0941- Ordinance Amending City Council Electoral Districts. #0942-Ordinance Amending City Council Electoral Districts. #0959- Ordinance Amending City Council Electoral Districts.
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Good
afternoon,
everyone
today
is
May
22nd
2023..
E
This
is
3
P.M
Hearing
in
the
committee
on
civil
rights
and
immigrant
advancement
on
dockets
number,
zero,
nine,
two:
eight
zero,
nine,
three:
zero:
zero,
nine,
three:
five:
two:
zero:
nine:
three:
seven:
zero:
nine,
four
one:
zero:
nine,
four:
two
and
zero
nine
five
nine
for
the
record.
My
name
is
City
councilor
at
large
I'm,
the
chair
of
the
Boston
city
council
committee
on
civil
rights
and
immigrant
advancement
I'm
joined
by
my
colleagues.
E
This
hearing
is
being
recorded.
It
is
being
live
streamed
at
boston.gov
forward,
slash
City,
Dash,
Council,
Dash,
TV
and
broadcast
on
Xfinity
channel
8,
RCN
channel
82,
FiOS,
channel
960
and
chat
and
FiOS
channel
964..
Ryan
Commons
may
be
sent
to
the
committee
email
at
ccc.civilrights
boston.gov
and
will
be
made
and
will
be
made.
A
part
of
the
record
and
available
to
all
counselors
I
will
try
to
slow
down.
Is
there
translation
happening?
I?
E
Believe
if
this
transaction
I
will
try
to
be
slower,
I
I
know
that
I
talk
too
fast
I
will
try
to
slow
myself
down
public
testimony
will
be
taken
during
the
hearing.
If
you
wish
to
sign
up
for
public
testimony
here
in
the
chamber,
please
sign
in
on
the
sheet
near
the
door.
It's
right
there
by
the
microphone.
E
If
you
are
looking
to
testify
virtually
please
email,
Shane
pack,
Shane
dot
pack
at
boston.gov
for
the
link,
and
your
name
will
be
added
to
the
list
and
I
stated
which
Dr
today's
hearing
is
on,
and
we
are
here
today
in
order
to
draw
a
new
map.
We
are
on
a
very
tight
deadline.
Judge
saris
ordered
us
to
draw
a
new
map
in
order
to
correct
for
a
potential
constitutional
violation
and
that's
what
we
are
here
doing.
E
E
Note
too,
that
we
have
been
joined
by
councilor
Ricardo
Arroyo
for
District
Five,
so
we
have
pulled
up
on
the
map
on
this
projector
here,
where
we
left
off
on
Friday.
For
those
of
you
who
need
the
district,
our
link.
E
That
is
District
r.org
forward,
slash
plan
forward,
slash
one
eight
five,
two
four
one
for
those
of
you
who
may
not
recall
the
discussion
at
that
point
we
were
talking
about
what
would
it
look
like
to
move
certain
districts,
and
we
had
gotten
into
a
discussion
here
on
the
council
about
making
sure
that
everyone,
every
city
councilor,
was
able
to
speak,
especially
on
their
district
and
I,
want
to
make
sure
that
everyone
is
able
to
speak
on
their
District.
E
This
map
here
has
a
is
a
map
that
meets
the
that
meets
the
population
requirements
and
has
eight
one
and
nine
one
which
became
a
topic
of
discussion
in
District
three.
So
we
have
eight
one
and
nine
one
here
in
District
three
and
we
have
meeting
population
deviation.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
give
city
council
president
Ed
Flynn
the
opportunity
to
speak
on
eight
one
and
nine
one
now.
So,
president
Flynn,
if
you
have
any
comments,
you
now
have
the
floor.
F
F
F
F
I
said
last
Friday
government
and
politics
is
about
compromise.
It's
about
giving
a
little
and
taking
little
and
doing
what's
best
for
the
city
in
the
residence
of
the
city.
I'm
also
proud
to
represent
District
Two,
one
of
the
most
diverse
districts
in
a
critical
part
of
that
area.
Of
that
district
is
eight
one
and
nine
one,
which
is
the
South
End,
probably
probably
two
of
the
most
diverse
precincts
in
the
city.
It
includes
Villa
Victoria.
It
includes
West
Dedham
Street,
which
has
a
large
BHA
development
in
it.
F
It's
connected
to
through
the
Blackstone
school
and
and
across
the
street,
is
the
Cathedral
public
housing
development,
BHA,
Blake,
Blakely
Apartments
in
and
around
that
area
too,
are
some
some
Asian
residential
development
developments
as
well,
housing
as
well
I
think
this
would
be
an
important
part
of
District.
Two
eight
and
one
in
my
opinion
in
9-1,
should
be
part
of
District
2,
so
I'm,
respectfully
asking
Madam
chair
that
8-1
and
91b
added
to
District
2.
F
again
want
to
say
thank
you
to
you,
Council
Louis,
zhen,
for
bringing
us
together
and
for
for
listening
to
Residents
and
listening
to
listening
to
our
colleagues.
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
some
of
my
constituents
that
are
here
as
well
from
Chinatown
from
from
the
south
end.
So
I
want
to
welcome
my
constituents
that
are
here
and
have
reached
out
to
me,
but
I'm
honored,
to
represent
them
and
represent
a
large
immigrant
community
in
Boston.
Thank
you,
Matt.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
E
Thank
you,
Mr
President,
thank
you
for
your
leadership
and
for
the
work
that
you've
done
in
your
District
on
behalf
of
everyone,
including
the
diverse
Chinatown
community
and,
of
course,
public
housing
residents.
So
I
am
going
to
take
us
back
to
where
we
were
a
bit
on
Friday
and
Emily.
If
you
could
be
so
kind
to
put
eight
one
and
nine
one
as
the
yep
okay.
E
So
now
we
have
eight
one
and
nine
one
as
part
of
District
Two,
but
as
you
can
see,
their
population
is
over.
The
ideal
population
is
75
000
a
little
over
75
000
for
each
district.
Once
we
put
eight
eight
one
and
nine
one
in
District
Two,
we
have
a
population
issue
that
we
have
to
deal
with,
and
so
we
have
to
see
if
there's
another
District.
That
would
be
that
could
take
the
population.
Some
population
from
D2
I
mean
if
you
could
zoom
in
just
a
bit.
E
E
If
we
could
look
at
putting
so
so
from
Friday,
we
had
316
in
District
three.
But
what
if
we
added
315
peace.
E
G
Yeah
I,
like
I,
like
mostly
that
my
district
is
intact,
the
the
intent
speaking
of
the
entirety,
District
so
having
to
grow
up
that
way.
I
I'm,
okay
growing,
as
long
as
what
was
in
place
for
me
remains
in
place,
meaning
the
the
our
our
districts
that
we
had
for
the
10
years,
so
316
315,
if
that
works
am
I
still
underpopulated.
No
is
are
the
moves
made
this
from
at
74.
E
Okay,
thank
you
and
so
District
Two
is
still
overpopulated.
E
Four:
six
is
a
district
that
borders
country,
box,
district
and
counselor
District
8
and
District
Seven
yeah.
So
if
we,
if
we
turn
that,
let's
see
if
we
could
give
it
to
District.
E
E
G
I
E
You
exactly
and
I
should,
if
I
want
to
make
sure
that
any
of
my
other
Council
colleagues,
if
anyone
else
has
anything,
okay,
I
also
wanted
to
read
into
the
record
in
absence
letter
that
we
have
from
councilor
Tanya,
Fernando
Anderson.
It
says
Dear,
Council,
Louisiana,
Council,
colleagues,
I,
regrettably,
will
not
be
able
to
attend
the
working
session
this
afternoon
as
an
urgent
personal
matter
has
come
up.
That
I
must
attend
to
I
understand
that
we
are
under
a
tight
deadline
to
propose
a
new
map.
E
This
I
respectfully
submit
the
following
in
order
to
keep
roxbury's
neighborhoods
intact,
it's
as
an
actor
but
I
think
she
means
intact.
I
understand,
there's
a
proposal
to
add
for
six
to
District
Seven,
which
will
Aid
in
maintaining
the
population
balance.
This
may
have
the
positive
impact
of
decreasing
the
number
of
councils
representing
the
Fenway
area.
Thank
you
for
your
understanding.
A
representative
for
my
staff
will
be
in
attendance
and
and
will
be
following
up
with
me.
I
will
be
sure
to
review
the
meeting
minutes
and
recording
and
I.
E
Ask
you
to
please
read
this
matter
into
the
public
record.
I
look
forward
to
the
working
session
tomorrow
afternoon.
It's
a
public
hearing
but
and
that's
from
Tanya
Financial
city
council
for
district
seven
for
the
record.
We
have
been
joined
by
councilor
Lara
from
District
Six
I
want
to
give
my
colleagues
if
they
have
any
opportunity
if
they
have
any
desire
to
speak
on
any
of
the
issues
at
hand
that
they
do
so
at
the
moment
soon.
G
E
Okay,
because
on
Friday
we
had
a
number
of
folks
signed
up
for
public
testimony,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
prioritize
them
in
this
discussion
and
that
we
give
the
public
an
opportunity
to
offer
testimonies.
So
if
there
are
folks
Shane,
if
you
have
a
list.
E
And
do
we
have
folks
queued
up
virtually
as
well
Shane?
Yes,
okay
great,
we
have
one
person
signed
up
for
public
testimony,
John
Cushing!
If
you
could
come
down
and.
E
District
or
plan
number
that
we're
working
off
of
is
the
one
that
we
left
off
of
left
off
with
on
Friday
yeah.
That's
one,
eight
five,
two
four
one
thank
you
and
yeah
Shane
included
it
in
the
email
today
about
the
hearing.
K
Apologies
so
just
to
clarify,
because
I
am
working
in
real
time
off
of
a
map
too,
so
to
clarify
the
moves
that
just
happened:
nine
one
and
eight
one
went
to
District
Two
and
then
315
went
to
District
three.
Is
that
correct?.
E
E
L
Thank
you
counselor,
so
I'll
try
to
be
brief,
but
three
things
as
they
relate
to
this
number.
One
I
would
always
be
available
so
I'm.
Also
the
the
ward
chairman
of
the
democratic
committee
out
there,
so
I
would
always
be
available.
I
know
a
lot
about
the
maps
and
the
streets
and
I
can
tell
you
pretty
much
all
the
streets
and
maps
and
Ward
20
and
Rosendale
in
general,
but
I'm
here
to
talk
as
a
Roslindale
resident.
L
So
first
off
Rosendale
over
the
years
and
I've
been
there
for
35
years.
So
I've
been
there
for
four
sentences.
All
four
senses
have
gotten
a
different
State
Rep.
So
a
lot
of
State
Rep,
my
state,
my
personal
State
Rep,
has
changed
every
time
and
I
know
this
is
city
council
hearing,
but
I
just
want
to
make
the
point
that
I've
had
to
get
a
new
State
Rep
every
census
and
and
I
hear
this
from
people
in
Roslindale
all
the
time.
L
So
the
last
city
council
redistricting
one
two
and
four,
which
all
vote
at
the
Saint
materials
Church
in
Roslindale,
Square
and
all
about
Fallon
field.
Precinct
one
actually
got
moved
into
a
diff
got
into
move
into
Precinct
into
District
Six,
which
at
the
time
was
Matt,
O'malley's
District.
So
the
people
that
about
at
the
field
had
two
separate
counselors
which
could
be
good.
You
know,
you
know
if
more
more
voices,
more
counselors,
but
it's
tough.
You
know
that
not
everybody's
talking
to
the
same
people
all
the
time.
L
So
that's
that's
one
Roslindale
thing,
but
historically
the
people
of
Roslindale.
It
just
feels
like
a
constant
change
and
not
in
a
good
way
where
we
get
broken
up
all
the
time,
whether
it
be
the
state
Federal
we
get
broken
up
for
other
people,
so
other
people
can
be
happy.
They
don't
go
after
the
other
places
in
Southwest
Boston
like
they
do
in
Roslindale.
So
that's
just
like
the
Roslindale
piece.
Where
and
and
people
there
feel
that
I
hear
that
all
the
time.
That's
not
me
talking.
L
That's
just
people
that
live
there
consistently
say
that
we
get
broken
up,
so
somebody
else
can
be
happy.
So
that's
the
Roslindale
piece
get
into
the
piece
that
I've
been
hearing
about
all
weekend,
which
is
the
precinct
8,
which
is
on
the
West
Roxbury
line,
but
in
Roslindale
it's
I'm
sorry
go
ahead.
420.
E
L
I'm
sorry
Ward
20
Precinct
8,
which
is
in
Roslindale,
and
it's
for
those
that
don't
know
it
would
be
straddling
the
parkway
down
Belgrade
Avenue,
which
is
kind
of
connected
to
the
square
neighborhoods
yeah,
where
I
live,
where
I
personally
live
to
the
geography
on
that
doesn't
make
sense,
there's
a
Parkway
in
between
West
Roxbury
and
Roslindale
and
that
Parkway
pretty
much
the
people
that
are
on
I,
don't
want
to
say
our
side,
but
on
that
side
of
the
parkway
Rosendale
you
know,
they're,
not
West
Roxbury
residents
and
the
the
precincts
Ward
20
Precinct,
8,
9
and
2
all
come
together
there
around
that
Mozart
School
kind
of
area
and
to
have
another
counselor.
L
It
will
be
tough
for
us
again.
Just
like
the
problem.
We
have
at
Fallon
field.
Now
our
Council
has
worked
well
together
at
the
Fallon
field
thing
we
got
some
things
done
there,
but
we
don't
feel
like
a
lot
of
people.
I
don't
speak
for
everyone
there,
but
most
people
I
talk
to
don't
want
this
division
because
we're
always
getting
broken
up
and
I.
Think,
that's
it
in
a
nutshell
that
that's
kind
of
our
problem
that
we're
constantly
getting
broken
up.
We
don't
see
it
in
West
Roxbury.
L
If
they're
going
to
take
two
precincts
out
of
West
Roxbury
and
move
them,
you'd
probably
have
a
room
full
of
people
here
and
in
Roslindale
again
last
time
you
did
redistricting
we
lost
a
Precinct
which
is
a
pretty
populated
Precinct
by
the
way-
and
you
know
it
appears
to
be
happening
again
and
I
just
want
to
State
the
geography.
If
you
look
at
that
map-
and
you
look
at
a
map
like
a
Google
map
that
Precinct
8
is
right
in
the
neighborhood,
that's
that
there's
literally
a
Parkway
that
runs
down
that
neighborhood.
L
E
Thank
you,
John
Shane.
If
you
can
queue
up,
we
don't
have
anyone
else
signed
up
for
public
testimony
we'll
if
you
would
like
to
sign
up,
is
there?
Is
there
a
currently
sheet
over
there
there's
a
sheet
at
the
mic
for
public
testimony?
If
you
would
like
to
sign
up
for
public
testimony,
we
are
now
going
to
go
to
testimony
that
we
have
virtually
as
a
reminder,
everyone
has
about
two
minutes
to
give
any
public
testimony.
E
Is
it
in
my
okay.
M
E
M
E
M
All
right,
I'm
gonna
go
ahead.
I
a
candidate
for
district,
eight,
City,
Council
and
I
know.
There's
been
meetings
going
on
so
far
on
this
redistricting
issue
and
I
wanna
make
sure
that
he
goes
on
this
meeting
on
this
record
that
I
as
a
candidate
object
to
redistricting
District
eight,
because
District
8
is
not
part
of
the
issue
that
the
federal
ruling
brought
out
hearing
the
idea
of
moving
Mission
Hill
to
wax
raspberry
I'm,
not
even
sure
where
that
comes
from
they're,
not
even
near
each
other.
M
M
M
And
not
use
it
as
what
do
you
call
it
as
a
kick
around
ball
to
satisfy
the
federal
ruling?
Federal
Court
rule
it
so
again,
I'm
making
sure
that
you
guys
understand
as
a
candidate
I
object
to
redistrict
in
any
area
of
District
eight,
you
should
be
left
to
the
constituents.
M
N
Thank
you
very
much
good
afternoon
members.
Council
members,
my
name
is
Montes
Haywood
I
also
will
make
candidate
for
the
district
agency.
What
I
wish
to
say
to
you
is
one
I
appreciate
that
the
federal
government
ruling
has
required
a
population
ship
that
was
that
is
different
than
what
you
initially
planned.
N
I
would
ask
that
you
leave
District
alone,
specifically,
I
would
Advocate
that
you
move
forward
towards
the
original
plan
for
the
West
End
specifically
I
would
ask
that
you
remember
the
historic
harm
that
was
caused
to
the
West
End
by
its
destruction
and
separation,
and
it
spent
the
past.
N
The
West
End
most
recently
received
an
apology
from
the
bpda's
predecessor,
the
b-ra,
for
its
actions
in
destroying
the
West
End,
which,
at
that
time
was
a
historically
mixed
neighborhood
that
was
involved.
Everyone
took
every
race
and
everything
they've
seen
every
income
level
that
was
destroyed
by
the
city.
I
would
ask
you
to
remember
the
harm
that
was
caused
by
the
previous
actions
of
the
city
before
or
you
go
to
modifying
the
West
End
and
potentially
removing
the
nature
and
character
of
the
neighbor.
N
We're
trying
to
build
I
would
ask
you,
come
to
the
West
End
and
look
at
the
natures
of
these
buildings
and
the
character
of
this
neighborhood.
We
may
be
higher
Rises,
however,
we
are
building
and
commuting.
We
are
getting
stronger.
We
are
turning
into
that
beautiful
melting
and
blending
pot
that
our
city
is
striving
to
be,
as
other
neighborhoods
I
would
ask
you,
leave
this
trade
alone
and
allow
us
to
get
a
city
council
into
that
seat
so
that
we
can
Advocate
I
appreciate
that
our
Atlanta
counselors
that
are
also
advocating
for
us.
N
E
Thank
you
Montes
appreciate
your
testimony.
Next
up,
we
have
Jovan
Lisette.
E
Javon,
you
now
have
the
floor.
O
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
Madame
Vice,
chair,
I,
don't
know,
I
show
them
two
cameras,
but
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
am
a
mapping.
Resident
I
am
many
voters
in
my
immediate
area
who
I
have
spoken
to
the
last
few
days
in
following
this
redistrict
map
issue
the
voter
balance.
O
We
have
spoken
last
few
days
and
appreciate
the
voting
balance
and
representation
that
it
provides
to
long-standing
management
constituents
by
the
way.
What
I'm
talking
about
I'm
sorry
I'm,
trying
to
read
from
this,
but
I'm
not
going
to
read
from
it
in
short,
I'm
on
I'm
on
here,
stating
that
we
support
Consular
City
Lucy
on
Louisiana's
proposed
map
are
the
three
Maps
that's
currently
in
play.
The
maze
map,
consulate,
Little
Jeans
map
and
console
always
map
any
new
changes
that
be
made
after
the
weekend.
O
I
don't
know,
but
I
live
in
District,
1714
and
1714
has
a
partnership
with
1713
the
boot.
What
you're
calling
the
boot
if
I
remember
correctly
Constitution
keeps
the
boot
in
the
as
part
of
District.
Three
I
like
that
myself
and
some
other
folks
in
the
area,
were
talking,
and
we
like
that,
because
that
allows
us
to
have
the
little
Mills,
slash,
Manor,
pin
area
this
part
of
my
opinion
to
have
like
three
City
councilors.
We
get
representation
from
District
Five.
O
Oh,
since
we're
Mattapan,
we
get
this
representation
from
district
for
our
current
city
councilor
and
we
get
representation
from
District
three.
We
love
that.
If
folks
vote,
you
will
always
be
able
to
get
the
representation
that
you
need
from
your
city,
councilors.
So,
on
behalf
of
the
many
people
I've
spoken
to
the
past
couple
of
days,
I
don't
even
want
to
get
involved
in
this
issue,
but
some
folks
don't
have
the
time
in
their
schedule
to
come
in
and
speak
so
I
said.
Let
me
take
the
time
and
come
in
today.
O
First
of
all,
many
of
us
would
just
love
for
this
to
take
time,
so
more
people
in
the
public
can
have
a
say,
but
if
you
have
to
vote
on
the
three
Maps,
we
choose
counselor
illusion
map,
that's
what
they
don't
want
to
sit
for
the
record
again.
My
name
is
Javon
Lisette.
You
might
see
Marine
Corps
veteran,
an
attorney
somebody
who
lived
in
the
mapping
for
over
50
years.
O
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Appreciate
y'all.
E
Thank
you
Javon
and
fun
fact:
I
grew
up
on
the
street
where
Javon
lives,
so
next
up
is
in
Mattapan.
Yeah
next
up
is
Jennifer
Johnson
Jennifer.
If
you're
here.
H
Thank
you,
hello,
councilor
Lucian
and
everyone.
Thank
you
for
bringing
this
meeting
together
and,
as
was
already
stated,
thank
you
for
running
it
so
civilly
as
a
candidate
for
district,
three
I
know
and
I
I
apologize,
I
can't
seem
to
find
the
link
for
the
map.
You're
currently
using
I
know
that
there
had
been
some
discussion
at
some
point
about
moving
my
ward
and
Precinct
that
I
have
lived
in
for
17
years
out
of
District
3
into
District,
Four
I'm,
not
sure.
If
that
is
still
on
the
table.
H
H
So
I
would
just
like
that
consideration
and
I
apologize
that
I
don't
know
for
certain
what
your
your
current
iteration
looks
like
so
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
me
in
District,
3
or
District
Four
right
now,
so
apologies
that
I,
don't
know
for
certain,
but
I
would
love
the
consideration
to
keep
me
in
District.
Three,
that
was
all
thank
you.
E
Q
Hi
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
testify
I'm
a
resident
of
Mattapan
I
support,
Council
ruthy's
Matt
because
it
clearly
identifies
the
borders
and
boundaries
that
have
been
in
DeTour
on
1414
and
1415.
I
mean
1405
used
to
be
in
District
Four.
These
neighborhoods
share
the
same
interests
as
neighborhoods
nd4.
Her
map
speaks
to
the
principle
of
redistricting
process.
E
R
Yes,
yes,
how
you
doing
I'm
a
Mattapan
resident
and
I
support,
Brian
warwell's
map.
P
S
E
S
Okay,
I
just
want
to
say
I
support,
customer
Rudy,
Mark,
I,
think
our
community.
She
understand
views
and
that's
bringing
the
community
a
little
bit
closer
and
I
do
support
that.
You
have
stated
I
I
had
to
review
it,
look
at
it
and
it
does
make
sense
to
me
as
a
resident
of
a
mother
pen.
E
I
Yes,
I'm
used
to
this.
Thank
you
very
much.
Council
I
am
a
55-year
resident
of
Mattapan
I've
been
voting
ever
since
I
was
18
years
old
and
I
support
councilor
long
jeans.
You
know
proposal
for
the
redistricting
of
the
maps.
I
think
it
basically
is
the
right
way
to
go
on
Equity
I
just
want
to
like
to
point
out
that,
in
my
opinion,
that
you
should
have
added
more,
you
know,
Wars
and
precincts
out
of
district
four
I
mean
from
District
Five
to
District
Four.
I
When
we
look
at
the
numbers,
70
of
District
Five
is
of
a
very
diverse
background,
but
again
I
would
have
liked
to
have
seen
down
the
future
in
regards
to
how
do
people
vote
in
District,
four
and
five,
but
other
than
that.
I
support
your
map
and
the
explanation
of
it.
So
I
want
to
thank
you
for
that.
E
T
Hi,
my
name
is
Phaedra
and
I
wanted
to
say
that
we
support
counselor
ruthy's
map
because
identify
borders
and
boundaries
historically,
14-14
and
14-05
have
been
in
this
have
been
in
the
district
for
so
those
every
those
neighborhoods
pretty
much
share
the
same
interests
as
those
in
District
Four.
So
that
really
speaks
to
the
principle
of
the
redistricting.
E
V
We
feel
it
is
important
to
keep
historical
under
under
represented
community
of
Interest
together,
including
the
following
piecing
together,
keep
egg
one
and
nine
one
in
District,
Two
keep
14
14
in
District
Five
keep
War
17
together
in
District,
4.
keep
little
psychon.
That
means
16
2
and
16
3
in
District
3..
Thank
you.
U
Is
there
anyone
else
here
who
would
like
to
have
made
public
testimony?
That
is
the
last
person
that
we
have
signed
up,
so
we
can
go
back
to
counselors
at
that
point.
If
there's
no
one
here.
W
Thank
you,
counselor
Murphy
I
just
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
is
happening
here
in
Ward
20,
particularly
in
my
district
with
28
and
21..
There
are
a
couple
of
things
and
mostly
that
I've
heard
in
in
public
testimony
and
one
I
share
the
concerns
about
Rosendale.
Now
Roslindale
has
had
a
long
history
of
being
split
between
multiple
districts,
as
has
the
south
end.
W
We
have
more
neighborhoods
than
we
do
districts,
so
obviously
every
neighborhood
cannot
be
made
whole,
but
in
the
map
that
we're
currently
looking
at
first
to
clarify,
28
is
partially
rock.
It
is
partially
West
Roxbury
and
also
Roslindale
right
same
thing
with
21.
It
is
also
partially
West,
Roxbury
and
partially
Rosendale,
so
one
moving
either
28
or
21
into
District.
W
Five
in
this
map
does
not
make
Roslindale
more
whole,
because
this
map
has
Roslindale
split
in
between
three
districts
instead
of
two
and
it
then
bifurcates
West
Roxbury
and
puts
West
Roxbury
parts
of
20
into
District
Five,
instead
of
having
it
whole
in
District,
Six
moving
leaving
28
and
21
into
District
Six
also
moves
the
majority
of
the
ward
20
precincts
into
District
Six,
and
so,
although
I
I
share
the
concern
about
Rosendale
being
broken
up,
this
map
different
than
my
map,
the
map
that
I
submitted
actually
presented
Rosendale
in
only
two
districts
instead
of
three.
W
This
map
presents
it
in
three
right
now
and
in
addition
to
further
splitting
Roslindale
having
it
in
three
districts,
it
also
takes
a
Precinct
that
has
West
Roxbury
in
it,
and
so
this
is
absolutely
not
effective.
In
keeping
anybody
together
was
Roxbury
is
not
together.
Ross
and
Dallas
still
split
up
in
three
districts
and
so
I'm
hearing
public
testimony
and
I'm.
W
Also
hearing
from
folks
in
West
Roxbury,
we
received
a
letter
of
support
and
the
committee
received
a
letter
of
support
from
Larry
Costello,
who
is
the
president
of
the
West
Roxbury
neighborhood
Council,
advocating
for
keeping
West
Roxbury
in
one
District.
We
also
received
a
letter
from
Rachel
poliner
at
West,
Roxbury
Roslindale
progressives
today,
also
advocating
for
keeping
West
Roxbury
whole.
If
we're
following
the
traditional
principles
of
redistricting,
we
are
being.
We
are
looking
at
maintaining
neighborhoods
that
have
historically
been
together
together
without
splitting
up
other
communities.
W
So
on
top
of
that
yeah
population
wise,
we
were
directed
to
look
at
the
Constitutional
violation
that
was
between
how
the
lines
were
drawn
in
District,
3
and
District
4,
and
to
correct
for
the
overpopulation
in
District
Two.
Everybody
keeps
talking
about
this
cascading
effect.
The
cascading
effect
does
not
bring
you
all
of
the
way
to
the
other
side
of
the
city.
As
was
presented
in
the
map
that
I
submitted
to
this
body.
It
shows
that
you
can
in
fact
be
surgical
with
the
changes
and
keep
neighborhoods
together.
W
W
That
needs
not
be
changed
and,
although
I
appreciate
you
know,
rallying
the
troops
and
getting
folks
who
are
supportive
of
what's
Happening
Here
to
show
up
to
this
meeting,
it
is
absolutely
not
in
alignment
with
one
what
the
judge
has
given
us
direction
to
do
and
with
the
with
the
majority
of
the
people
in
those
neighborhoods
have
to
say,
and
so
again
for
particularly
for
Ward
20
Precinct
8,
the
clay
auto
body
is
in
28
and
for
those
of
you
that
were
here
or
even
live
in
that
neighborhood
or
live
in
that
District.
W
You
remember
the
very
public
fight
over
where
Roxbury
prep
was
going
to
go,
that
is
in
West
Roxbury,
that
is
in
28.
28
borders,
again
the
most
visible
landmark
of
West
Roxbury,
which
is
the
Holy
Name
rotary.
Now
do
you
want
to
say
that
Rosendale
is
also
in
that
Precinct?
Yes,
absolutely
it
is,
but
so
is
West
Roxbury.
W
So
when,
given
the
opportunity
to
unite
one
full
neighborhood
in
one
district
and
bring
Roslindale
more
together
by
giving
it
only
two
City
councilors
instead
of
three,
there
is
absolutely
no
reason
why
we
shouldn't
take
it
other
than
people
have
personal
underlying
agendas.
And
if
that
is
what
is
in
what
is
in
play
here,
then
we're
absolutely
not
at
all
in
compliance
with
the
judge's
ruling,
and
so
I
really
want
us
to
have
a
real
conversation
about
21
and
28.
W
The
people
of
West
Roxbury
have
spoken
about
what
they
would
like
to
see
in
their
District
as
their
District
counselor
I
am
more
than
happy.
There
are
people
here
who
are
at
large
counselors
who
represent
the
entirety
of
the
neighborhood,
and
so,
if
you
want
to
go
and
split
up
with
Roxbury,
then
I
invite
you
to
come
down
to
District
Six
and
tell
them
that
that's
what
you're
trying
to
do.
X
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
to
my
colleague
councilada
for
really
laying
things
out.
I
am
just
curious.
It
would
be
helpful
for
me
and
those
who
follow
me
to
understand
the
the
reasoning
and
the
behind
the
scenes.
Maneuverings
that
are
happening
to
have
this
discussion
and
what
you're
presenting
so
that
people
can
understand.
X
E
Thank
you
counselor,
so
the
judge
found
a
potential
constitutional
violation
in
District,
3
and
4
in
terms
of
how
that
those
lines
were
drawn,
and
so
we
are
to
correct
for
that.
There
is
no
place
where
it
says.
This
is
our
starting
point.
We
must
start
from
here.
We
must
start
from
X.
We
must
start
from
why
I
offered
a
map
that
had
the
least
number
of
changes
to
both
the
Baseline
map
and
to
the
enacted
map,
and
so
that
was
a
starting
point.
E
But
as
you
see,
our
map
has
evolved
from
that
because
it
takes
into
account
everyone
all
members
of
the
Boston
city
council
for
what
their
vision
of
the
map
would
be.
So
if
you
look
at
28,
which
was
issue
here
that
we
are
talking
about,
28
was
in
the
Baseline
map
and
it
has
been
my
understanding
what
happened
was
there
were
folks
when
we
were
having
this
hearing
on
Friday?
Who
I
would
I
saw
them
afterwards
and
said?
E
28
is
part
of
Roslindale
and
it
has
been
part
of
Rosendale
ever
since
there
were
districts
in
1983.
and
so
I
like
what
is
happening,
went
and
looked
at
what
why
exactly
28
was
moved
from
the
Baseline
map
to
the
enacted
map
and
have
heard
testimony
and
for
and
has
heard
from
people
who
say
that
28
and
21
are
a
part
of
Roslindale,
and
that
is
what
this,
what
you
have
seen
folks,
who
are
advocating
for
publicly
would
I
have
received
emails
about
that's
what's
happening,
is.
X
X
There
were
some
changes
made
so
that
I'm
at
a
pan
for
District
Five
to
kind
of
actually
be
one
of
those
opportunities,
so
I'm
just
opportunity
District,
so
I'm
just
curious
how
that
is
going
to
impact
that
if
you
remove
Mattapan
out
of
District
Five,
can
you
tell
me
what
the
domino
effect
would
be
every
versing
it
back
to
the
way
things
used
to
be
there's.
X
Went
to
District
it
got
to
District
Five
so
that
so
that
was
what,
from
what
I
understand,
based
on
that.
That
was
what
was
able
to
create
a
space
for
folks
to
elect
a
candidate
of
their
choice
or
at
least
expand
the
the
voter.
You
know
opportunities
so
I'm,
just
curious.
Why
go
back
to
the
way
things
used
to
be.
E
So
when
we
are
correcting
for
the
judge's
constitutional
potential,
constitutional
violation,
there's
a
domino
effect
from
three
the
line
of
three
and
four
setting
for
214-14
when
the
historical
lines
of
14
of
District
Four
included.
1414,
makes
sense
because
1414
is
has
been
part
of
District
Four
and
it's
part
of
Mattapan.
And
so
there
is
a
Mattapan
story
within
District
4
and
within
District
Five.
And
that's
the
reason
for
the
change
and.
X
E
Councilman
here
we
started
off
with
my
map
that
has
now
become
a
map
that
the
entire
that
everyone
is
putting
input
into
so
I
actually
don't
care
if
it's
my
map
or
someone
else's
map,
because
a
lot
is
map
included
and
if
you
look
at
my
map
compared
to
councilada's
map
they're
actually
quite
similar,
the
differences
are,
is
how
you
rectify
the
potential
constitutional
violation.
This
is
on
three
and
four
and
where
you
send
District
Four
and
what
results
from
that.
So
it's
a
starting
point.
It
is
not.
E
Sure,
basically,
is
that
a
map
for
the
council,
because,
as
chair
of
the
civil
rights
committee,
it
is
within
my
purview.
My
responsibility
to
lead
us
forward
on
this.
I
did
not
want
to
offer
a
map,
because
I
wanted
us
to
collectively,
as
a
body
decide
on
a
map,
but
for
us
to
have
a
talking
point,
a
starting
point:
I
offered
a
map.
It
also
happened
to
be,
as
councilor
Braden
stated
on
Friday.
E
She
spoke
through
the
numbers,
the
map
that
had
the
highest
percentage
of
core
retention,
the
fewest
number
of
changes
and
also
I
filed
the
map,
knowing
that
it
would
have
input
from
my
counselors
and
knowing
that
would
be
that
there
would
be
additional
changes.
So
that
is
the
starting
point.
It
is
not
the
ending
point:
okay,.
X
E
Y
Thank
you
very
much
yeah
to
me.
That's
that's!
A
pretty
bad
District
Five
I'm
just
going
to
be
really
honest
about
what
I'm
looking
at
here,
you
keep
bringing
up
10
years
ago,
but
you
can
go
ahead
and
zoom
in
1912
18
7,
which
are
also
Roslindale,
we're
a
part
of
the
district
10
years
ago,
but
you
don't
reunify
them
and
so
to
me,
that's
a
very
weak
argument
to
take
matapan
precincts
that
have
been
a
structural
part
of
Matt
of
the
district
five
district.
Five
is
70
percent
Mattapan
right
now.
Y
Yes,
those
precincts
came
into
the
district
10
years
ago,
just
like
1912
and
1807
came
into
district
four
ten
years
ago,
and
yet
you're
talking
about
keeping
those
two
precincts
out,
even
though
they
unify
Roslindale,
even
though
there's
only
two
things
that
as
far
this
is
the
judge's
opinion,
there's
only
two
things
that
the
judge
noted
that
seemed
like
she
noted
them
as
positives.
The
first
one
was
at
16
1
and
16-3
reunited
communities
of
interest
in
Little
Saigon
in
District
three.
Y
All
this
talk
about.
Oh,
we
got
to
do
28
because
there's
a
little
bit
of
Roslindale
there
or
21,
because
there's
a
little
bit
of
Roslindale
there
there's
a
good
amount
of
Roslindale
in
1807.
I
can
tell
you
that
right
now,
1912
is
half
rosin
Dale
and
we
talked
about
all
I
heard
over
and
over
again
was
the
things
we
were
doing
down
there
in
Mattapan
was
because
the
lines
don't
make
sense.
Y
It
makes
sense
to
do
that,
but
I
don't
understand
why
we
would
do
all
of
this
backwards.
Logic
that
14
14
5
were
part
of
that
district
10
years
ago.
Well,
so
was
1912,
so
was
1807..
Those
are
both
Roslindale.
This
map,
no
more
unites
Roslindale
than
it
was
before.
It's
actually
the
same
problem
and
I'm
just
going
to
be
very
Frank
like
that,
the
communities
of
interest
in
1912
and
1807
and
the
communities
of
interest
in
21
and
28.
Y
All
of
the
time
that's
Cummins
Highway,
that's
High
Park
Ave,
and
they
often
feel
like
they
don't
know
who
they're
supposed
to
be
going
to
as
well,
and
so,
if
we're
talking
about
a
map
that
does
all
of
this
maneuvering,
where
you
take
essentially
three
precincts
of
the
six
that
represent
matapan
in
District
Five
and
stick
those
three
precincts
in
District,
Four,
you've
essentially
diluted
the
matapan
neighborhoods
ability
in
both
districts.
Frankly
and
then
in
Roslindale,
you
haven't
reunified
them
even
a
little
bit
because
1912
and
18
7
aren't
in
that
equation.
Y
They're
not
even
part
of
this,
even
though
those
are
very
much
Roslindale
precincts
and
so
this
map
and
when
I'm
trying
to
figure
out,
because
we
keep
saying
court
order
court
order
court
order,
the
judge
liked
1912
and
187
being
District
Five.
So
why?
Wouldn't
we
start
from
that
building
block?
And
then
we
don't
talk
at
all
about
the
15s
or
any
of
those
other
ones,
even
though
those
exist
up
there
when
we're
talking
about
population
balance,
we're
pushing
all
the
way
down
into
the
south
side
of
this
map
and
I.
Y
Don't
have
any
good
reasons
that
I've
heard
I've
heard
oh
10
years
ago.
That's
what
it
was
well
10
years
ago,
1912
and
187
we're
in
District
Five.
So
there's
no
good
explanation
for
that.
Oh
well,
it
helps
clean
the
lines
up.
Well,
that
doesn't
look
like
it
cleans
the
lines
up
to
me,
I'm
looking
at
it
right
now.
It
does
not
look
very
clean,
oh
well.
It
certainly
doesn't
strengthen
mattapan's
Voice
or
ability
to
have
a
person
with
their
choosing
in
District.
Y
Five
I
can
tell
you
that
right
now
and
in
Roslindale
you're,
basically
not
changing
the
equation
whatsoever.
So
all
the
district
does
is
lose
matapan
precincts,
keep
about
the
same
amount
of
Roslindale,
but
not
the
parts
of
Roslindale
that
were
10
years
ago
in
that
equation,
whereas
on
the
last
map
you
lost
28,
which
really
based
on
what
councilor,
Lara
and
West
Roxbury
are
saying,
wasn't
really
a
loss
as
much
as
a
unification
of
West
Roxbury
and
in
return
you
got
1912
and
18
7.
Y
and
so
I
recognize
that
we
have
issues
with
the
16s
I
recognize
that
1713
for
some
reason
on
this
map
is
no
longer
unifying
Lower
Mills,
which
is
also
1714..
That's
fine!
That's
a
conversation
for
councilor,
Baker
and
Council.
We're
allowed
to
have,
but
there's
a
number
of
precincts
there
that
impact
the
borders
of
District,
3
and
District
4,
as
well
as
borders
of
District
2,
where
this
issue
can
be
solved,
I,
don't
think
the
court
order
basically
said
hey.
Y
Change
so
18
7
1912
have
been
in
District
Five
for
a
very
long
time,
and
so,
if
you're
making
that
argument,
then
those
should
be
coming
back.
They
shouldn't
be
staying
over
there.
If
that's
the
argument,
but
I
think
that
there's
a
number
of
issues
I
have
with
this
map,
which
is
it
dilutes.
The
matapan
neighborhood
of
interest
that
I
have
there
in
a
way
that
I
think
actually
hurts
their
ability
to
have.
Y
Someone
of
their
choosing
in
District
Five
and
doesn't
much
increase
their
ability
to
have
someone
of
their
choosing
in
District
Four,
and
then
you
still
have
Roslindale
split
up
here
into
three
districts.
In
a
way
that
you
know
you
could
put
one
Precinct
here
or
put
one
Precinct
there,
but
the
way
that
it
worked.
It
wasn't
like
an
accident.
The
way
it
worked
last
time
was
28
because
the
West
Roxbury
requests
and
1912
and
187
were
coming
in
on.
Y
On
balance,
there
was
more
Roslindale
inside
of
District
Five
than
there
was
on
the
last
map,
and
so
I
recognized
that
I,
don't
think,
there's
a
single
map.
We
can
do
that,
unifies
all
of
Roslindale,
and
so
we're
really
just
trying
to
figure
out
how
we
make
those
Balance.
And
then
you
go
to
like
sort
of
the
communities
of
interest
that
are
focused
around
Cummins
Highway,
which
is
right
there.
American
Legion
is
right
there
there's
a
high
Park
Ave
is
right
there.
Y
So
there's
like
a
couple
stretches
of
community
corridors
that
are
sort
of
hot
spots
for
both
development,
as
well
as
just
Transportation
issues
that
we
have
where
you
can
put
them
both
in
one
District.
So
it
makes
sense
to
do
that.
So
there's
a
number
of
reasons:
whether
we're
talking
about
the
actual
neighborhood,
where
we're
talking
about
actual
Geographic
sort
of
landmarks
or
demarcations
that
these
would
make
sense.
This
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense
to
me.
It
doesn't
look
like
that.
Y
Our
district
I've
raised
concerns
for
my
district
and
not
a
single
thing
that
I've
raised
has
been
reflected
in
that
map
and
not
a
single
thing
that
she
has
raised
has
been
reflected
in
that
map.
And
so,
when
I'm
sitting
here
and
hearing
you
say
this
is
a
map.
That's
everybody's,
got
to
say
in
it
and
it's
being
reflected
this
way
that
way,
the
other
I'm,
not
you
know
when
we
were
doing
this
last
last
week,
I
guess
on
Friday.
Y
There
18
7
and
1912.,
and
so
those
are
the
kinds
of
thoughts
like
if
I,
basically
when
I'm
hearing
arguments,
if
the
arguments
can
be
debunked
just
on
the
other
side,
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
me
that
we're
going
that
way
and
so
I
would
just
ask
respectfully
that
we
continue
to
work
on
this
in
a
way
where
District
Five
doesn't
look
like
that,
because
right
now
that
doesn't
look
particularly
good
and
I'm
visually.
It
doesn't
look
good
from
a
neighborhood
standpoint.
Y
It
dilutes
Mattapan
without
increasing
Roslindale
representation,
so
you're
diluting
Mattapan
and
not
increasing
Roslindale
representation.
So
none
of
this
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
me
not
to
mention
the
shared
voting
interest
in
terms
of
what
those
neighborhoods
represent
and
who
they
represent
and
what
kinds
of
communities
of
Interest
are
being
pushed
in
and
out
it's
it's
a
pretty,
that's
pretty
bad.
Y
Nor
any
of
the
things
that
councilor
Laura
is
saying
reflected
this
map
and
I
have
real
concerns
that
we
have
to
essentially
do
something
by
Wednesday
and
these
kinds
of
changes
where
you're
taking
half
of
the
matapan
precincts
out
of
District
Five,
with
no
voting
analysis
with
no
actual
numbers
with
no
with
none
of
those
real
things
that
impact
how
we're
supposed
to
do.
Redistricting.
Those
aren't
minor
changes.
Y
Those
are
massive
changes
to
the
outcomes
of
these
districts
and
when
we're
doing
it
at
the
expense
of
not
even
sort
of
unifying
more
so
a
neighborhood
I,
don't
really
fully
understand
it,
and
so
that's
where
I'm
at
I
think
there's
some
work
here.
That
has
to
happen
on
the
four
and
five
border,
and
maybe
me
and
Council
Royale
should
should
have
conversations
about
that.
But
I
think
there's
a
number
of
different
things
here
that
still
have
to
get
sorted
up.
Y
E
Go
back
so
if
you
go
back
in
time,
let
me
let
me
know
I
just
know
myself
was
it
so
counselor
1912
was
part
of
District
Six
saying
you
wanted
to
say
that
also
just
want
to
know
that
in
my
original
map,
1912
and
1807
were
in
District
Five,
just
as
further
proof
that
we
have
evolved
beyond
what
my
map
is
to
take
into
account
Sentiments
of
folks
here
on
the
council
and
of
the
public.
There
have
been
no
corporations
from
everyone's
map.
Council
Latta
had
7-3
in
District
Two
in
her
map.
E
Z
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
to
I
know
on
the
map
on
this
image.
It
might
not
looks
like
Jagged
edges,
but
some
of
those
Jagged
edges
are
major
major
streets
in
our
in
our
community.
So
one
of
those
Jagged
edges
is
more
in
Street,
the
other
one
is
West
Selden,
the
other
one
is
blue
hill
lab,
which
are,
and
the
other
one
is
also
Norfolk
Street.
Z
So
those
are
real,
clear
identifiable,
major
throwaways
in
the
community,
which
are
constituents
in
our
neighborhoods,
and
our
residents
can
identify
what
neighbors,
what
what's,
what
district
they're
in
based
on
what
side
of
the
street
that
they
live
on.
Z
So,
although
it
might
look
Jagged
and
cut
up
on
this
screen
when
you're
on
the
ground
in
the
Community,
those
are
clear,
distinct,
major,
thorough
ways
and
major
busy
intersections
in
our
community,
so
I
just
want
to
put
that
on
the
record,
and
then
also
there
were
four
districts
or
four
precincts
that
moved
out
of
District
Four
in
the
last
redistricting.
So
this
is
not
undoing
what
we
did
in
the
past
in
the
last
10
years.
Z
This
is
simply
rectifying
the
population
issue
once
we're
moving
1601
in
1603
out
of
out
of
District
Four,
and
we
have
to
find
a
way
to
grow
and
we've
heard
from
people
over
at
15,
one
about
breaking
up
their
neighborhood
and
and
the
ward
committee
has
spoken
on
in
the
last
process-
are
not
making
sure
that
we
split
them
up
even
further,
and
this
unite
the
rest
of
the
ward
14
under
one
District,
which
I
believe
will
have
the
same
interest
and
just
do
next
that
award
under
District
Four.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you,
councilada
councilman.
Here
you
have
the
Council
or
all
you
can
respond.
Z
X
Floor,
yeah
I'm
just
so
glad
that
we're
going
through
this
whole
process
so
publicly,
because
it's
educating
people
about
politicians
and
how
we
all
are
so
I'm
so
glad
that
this
is
so
transparent,
because
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
things
happening
here
behind
the
scenes.
You
know
that
when
people
really
look
at
redistricting,
it's
a
lot
of
development.
X
X
It
is
a
reason
why
people,
don't
trust,
government
and
I
am
really
hopeful
that
we're
going
to
get
to
where
we
need
to
be
by
putting
the
work
ahead
of
politics
and
I
had
above
personalities
and
above
political
favors
and
all
that
sort
of
stuff,
because
this
is
something
that's
going
to
impact.
Our
people
for
the
next
10
years
and
I
am
I.
Am
hopeful
that
my
colleagues
are
moving
with
the
best
interests
of
what
this
exercise
is
about,
and
that's
the
people
thank.
E
You
counselor,
as
I've
stated
repeatedly
I.
Think
redistricting
is
one
of
the
hardest
things
that
allow
the
slave
body
has
to
do,
and
if
it
were
up
to
me,
it
would
be
done
by
an
independent
redistricting
commission
to
ensure
that
we
are
always
centering
the
voters
and
not
our
own
self-interest
oftentimes.
It
is
really
hard
for
members
of
the
public
to
follow
when
it
is
about
the
voters
and
when
it
is
about
the
electeds,
and
that
is
the
problem
with
redistricting.
E
As
a
lawyer,
who's
worked
on
these
cases,
I
sought
front
and
center
and
believe
that
this
work
needs
to
be
done
independently,
which
is
why
I
believe,
when
I
first
took
over
a
share,
I
stated
I
support,
HR
One
the
bill
before
Congress.
That
would
make
independent
redistrating
the
the
way
to
go
around
the
country.
Thank
you,
counselor
you're,
not
on
the
floor.
Thank.
Y
You
I
would
just
note
that,
when
we're
talking
about
Ward
committees
right,
like
I,
don't
have
all
of
18
in
this
map,
there's
literally
one
Precinct
right,
there's
18-1!
You
can
stick
that
in
there
I
have
all
of
the
ward
18s.
If
we're
going
to
pretend
that
Ward
committees
are
a
community
of
Interest,
then
board
18,
one
should
be
coming
into
District,
Five
and
eighteen.
Seven
can
come
over
two
under
that
kind
of
logic.
Plus
I
have
more
19s
than
District
Four,
so
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
make
communities
of
interest
that
aren't
really.
Y
Communities
of
Interest
award
committees
by
themselves
are
not
a
community
of
interest,
and
we
have
a
situation
here
where
1912
would
make
more
sense
in
District
5
due
to
the
communities
of
the
award
committees.
If
that's
the
logic
we're
using
18,
1
and
18
7
make
more
sense
in
Ward
five
district,
five
based
on
that
logic,
because
then
all
of
the
18s
are
within
District
Five,
and
so
that's
not
really
what
we're
doing
and
since
that's
not
really
what
we're
doing.
Y
We
should
be
making
sure
that
we're
not
diluting
an
actual
community
of
Interest,
which
is
Mattapan
in
an
actual
neighborhood's
ability
to
make
a
select
section
in
District
Five,
and
this
map
would
absolutely
do
that.
You
cannot
convince
me
this
map
would
not
harm
the
ability
for
matapan
to
make
a
actual
impact
and
a
candidate
of
their
choosing
and
select
a
candidate,
their
choosing
in
District
Five
they're,
going
from
in
this
map,
there's
somewhere
around
so
in
the
regular
Baseline.
Seventy
percent
of
Mattapan
is
in
District
Five,
that's
about
I!
Y
Don't
have
it
right
in
front
of
me,
but
it's
about
15
000
people,
because
mattapan's
population
is
about
22
000.
in
District
Four.
You
have
about
seven
thousand.
It's
like
six
thousand
nine
hundred
to
make
this
dramatic
of
a
change
or
a
cut
in
Mattapan
and
modern
pan
residence
numbers
in
District,
Five,
absolutely
weakens
and
dilutes
their
ability
to
speak
in
District,
Five
and
I
would
just
know
because
I
believe
councilor
Braden
has
introduced
it.
Y
There
is
a
letter
from
our
last
mayor
mayor
well,
actually
announced
like
three
Mayors
ago,
but
Mayor
Menino,
but
the
last
mayor
who
had
a
part
in
the
redistricting
process
where
he
actually
vetoed
a
map
that
did
essentially
what
you're
trying
to
do
here
on
the
basis
that
it
he
believed
it
would
lead
to
voter
dilution,
and
so
that
letter
I
believe,
is
on
the
record.
Y
It
absolutely
does
that
it
absolutely
weakens
the
ability
for
matapan
to
have
a
say
in
District
Five,
and
it
does
so
at
the
expense
of
neighborhoods
in
1912
and
187,
which
are
frankly
share
many
interests,
18
7
to
1912
share
quite
a
bit
of
their
interest
with
1821.
That
is
the
same
area.
Crane's
ledge,
for
instance,
is
in
District
5
18
7
is
right.
Next,
to
that,
it's
right
on
the
line,
that's
right
where
Walk
Hill
Street,
and
all
of
that
is
there's
a
lot
of
shared
interests
in
that
area.
Y
And,
frankly,
those
are
communities
of
different
ethnic
minorities
and
groups
that
are
very
much
banded
together
in
terms
of
how
all
of
that
route
works.
Y
And
so,
when
we're
talking
about
giving
more
Dorchester
to
what
is
a
majority
Dorchester
District,
because
District
4
is
a
majority
Dorchester
District,
it
doesn't
make
sense
not
to
look
at
how
we're
looking
at
how
we
move
pieces
and
to
be
clear,
I'm,
not
saying
that
all
of
that
can't
be
changed.
That's
not
what
I'm
saying
so!
I
want
to
be
clear
that
I'm
not
saying
that
the
only
map
that
is
acceptable
to
me
is
a
map
that
doesn't
touch
anything
at
all.
Y
What
I
am
saying
is
the
fact
that
every
single
place
where
District
4
gross
is
District
5
makes
absolutely
no
sense.
There's
not
a
single
part
of
that
map
where
he
goes
into
Dorchester,
where
District
Four
goes
into
Dorchester,
even
though
it's
a
primarily
Dorchester
District.
It
only
pushes
into
Roslindale
where
they
don't
have
a
lot
of
it.
So
rosendale's
voice
is
weakened
in
that,
and
then
it's
also
diluting
mattapan's
ability
to
speak
in
District
five
every
single
time.
Y
You
say
you
have
a
population
issue
here,
you're
actually
taking
from
District
Five
and
you're,
not
actually
making.
So,
for
instance,
when
you
give
16,
1
and
163
to
District
three
there's
no
equivalent
change
on
the
District
3
District
4
border
when
you
get
up
to
the
15s,
and
so
you
keep
saying
well,
maybe
we've
heard
from
some
of
the
15s
well,
we've
heard
from
some
of
these
folks
too.
Y
I
have
personally
heard
from
them
and
I
guess:
I
got
to
schedule
them
up
to
call
in
here
on
Tuesday,
so
that
people
know
they're
real,
but
they
are
real
and
they
certainly
don't
want
to
see
this
happen
to
what
we
have
going
on
here.
Where
Mattapan
is
diluted
in
District,
Five
and
Roslindale
continues
to
just
be
a
tiny
piece
of
District
Four
when
it
could
be
reunited
back
in
District
Five,
and
so
that
is
all
I
am
saying.
I.
Think
I'm
on
the
record
on
that.
E
AA
My
current
city
councilor
says
exactly
what
I
want
to
reiterate:
I
am
a
State
Rep
who
represents
all
of
the
precincts.
You
guys
just
said:
18
7,
1912,
14,
14
5..
Thirdly,
I
want
that
killed
loudly
18
7
1912,
All,
Along,
American,
Legion
Highway,
all
along
home
Cummings
Highway
do
not
break
those
things
up
from
the
other
parts
of
American
Legion,
Highway
and
Cummings
Highway.
They
should
all
be
together
very
much
to
this
point.
AA
Crane's
ledge
comes
right
in
188
and
a
bus,
18
7.,
absolutely
I've
heard
As
Much
from
the
folks
Rick
and
Lisa
who's
in
187,
as
I
heard
from
the
folks
on
188,
absolutely
should
be
in
the
exact
same
area.
I'm
gonna
do
this
from
a
State
Rep
perspective
and
say
when
I
arrived
in
2010
elected
in
2010.
There
were
10
seats
in
this
country
in
this
County
in
this
state
that
were
a
majority
of
color.
We
went
from
10
to
20
and
now
from
20
to
33..
AA
That
was
because
of
the
fact
that
we
believe
that
the
Voting
Rights
Act
and
the
and
the
14th
Amendment
were
to
go
and
help
disenfranchise
communities
now,
all
of
a
sudden
we're
making
a
decision
about.
How
do
we
help
white
communities
and
it
sounds
to
me
from
what
I've
heard
in
the
last
half
an
hour.
We
do
that
at
the
disadvantage
or
at
the
challenge
of
taking
black
and
brown
community
and
now
dividing
out
those
precincts,
and
so
I'm
in
I
know
I'm
in
two
minutes
or
three
minutes.
But
let
me
just.
AA
Let
me
just
simply
say
all
of
the
16th
and
third
16-1
16s
and
three
a
lot
of
those
things.
One
of
those
challenges
align
and
find
a
problem
in
three
and
four:
that's
what
the
what
the
judge
said.
It
I
don't
see
why
we're
touching
five
at
all
and
10
years
ago.
I
know
we
keep
hearing
hey.
This
is
something
historic!
Well
historic
was
we
had
never
had
a
white,
nothing
but
white
counselors
out
of
District
Five,
and
so
now
we've
aligned
and
had
it
so
that
black
and
brown
folks
can
have
more
influence.
AA
I've
lived
in
Port
1414.
I
am
here
to
say:
please
do
not
move
1414
at
all
back
into
district
four,
but
you
guys
think
you
want
to
combine
14
I
represent
all
of
14,
except
for
a
couple.
Precinct
and
I
gave
a
couple
of
those
up
in
our
redistricting.
Yes,
councilor
Mejia
mejia's
points
about
the
politics
of
all
of
this
and
counselor
Eugene's
points
about
the
politics
of
all
of
this
doesn't
matter.
I
agree.
It
builds
an
independent
Council
on
Independent
decision.
That
would
make
sense.
AA
However,
the
matapan
community
needs
to
stay
as
much
as
told
as
it
can.
Please
leverage
what
we've
done
at
the
state
level.
You
can
even
use
some
of
our
map
because
we
definitely
did
all
these
communities
of
Interest
conversations.
That
is
why
fourteen
five
fourteen
fourteen
eighteen,
seven
nineteen
twelve,
are
all
still
in
one
district
for
the
same
reasons
that
we're
trying
to
keep
them
in
District
Five.
We
as
communities
should
be
trying
to
make
sure
we
can
strengthen
fives,
not
weaken
it
and
I.
AA
AA
E
Thank
you,
rep
homes,
for
your
testimony,
I.
E
J
You,
madam
chair,
just
with
reference
to
the
question
about
mayor
Menino's
comments
on
the
previous
map
12
10
years
ago,
mermanino,
when,
when
vetoing
the
council
map
said
in
September
of
6
2012
that
the
concentration
of
black
voting
age
population,
a
non-white
voting
age
population
in
District
Four
is
was
of
particular,
is
of
particular
concern.
That's
what
quote
mermanino
and
that's
what
led
to
matapan
and
D4
and
D4
D5
being
drawn
in
the
way
that
it
has
been
drawn
in
the
in
the
existing
map
that
we
all
got
elected
on.
J
So
the
other
thing
that
Dr
Hanley
said
that
she
cautioned
against
sort
of
making
a
lot
of
changes.
You
know,
as
a
concert
voting
has
been
racially
polarized
in
Boston
from
Municipal
elections,
particularly
in
the
preliminary
elections
and
as
a
consequence,
districts
that
provided
minority
voters
with
the
opportunity
to
elect
their
candidates
of
choice
should
be
maintained.
However,
because
black
Hispanic
and
Asian
voters
do
not
necessarily
support.
J
So
in
the
current
plan,
districts,
four
and
seven
provide
black
voters
with
the
opportunity
to
elect
their
preferred
candidates.
District
Five
has
been
a
success,
has
been
successful
in
electing
a
Hispanic
preferred
candidate,
albeit
only
because
that
candidate
garnered
some
support
from
White
voters
and,
to
a
lesser
degree,
black
voters,
a
district-specific,
functional
analysis,
a
proposed
of
the
proposed
plan.
You
know
so
that
so
it's
basically
saying
that
we
would
need
to
have
some
analysis.
You
know
and
and
I
think
this.
J
The
sense
from
Dr
Hanley
was
that
we
should
not
do
minimal
changes
with
the
with
the
existing,
because
we've
sort
of
worked
this
out
in
the
previous
cycle
and
try
not
to
upset
the
apple,
cart
and
and
impact
the
opportunity
District.
The
district
five
district
six
is
no
hang
on.
District.
Four
is
just
to
do
minimal
changes
that
the
legislation
doesn't
call
it.
J
E
Thank
you,
councilor
Braden
I
appreciate
those
comments
trying
to
see.
If
do
we
have
anyone
else
in
the
zoom
waiting
room
or
signed
up
to
testify?
Okay,
okay,
thank
you.
Shane!
We
are
I,
am
for
this
moment
going
to
take
a
brief
recess
of
about
five
minutes,
so
it
is
four
of
ten
minutes.
It
is
4
38
at
4
48.
We
will
resume.
Thank
you.
E
P
P
B
B
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
B
B
B
B
E
In
session,
thank
you:
apologies
recess,
took
a
little
bit
longer
than
anticipated
want
to
open
up
the
floor
to
my
colleagues
if
they
have
any
statements
or
anything
that
they
would
like
to
put
on
the
record.
Just
a
comes
with
Tony
Fernandez
Anderson.
You
now
have
the
floor.
AB
Thank
you,
consolation,
I,
can't
see.
I
can't
see
the
map
with
the
precincts,
because
these
glasses
are
horrible.
So
please
forgive
me:
I
did
have
to
I'm
I
apologize.
I
was
struggling
with
my
asthma
this
morning
and
then
something
urgent
came
up
and
I
wanted
to
be
here
on
record
to
correct
a
couple
of
Miss
a
couple
of
things,
the
so
the
so
I
was
home
watching
and
then
I
got
a
of
course.
A
thousand
calls
about
this.
AB
The
very
top
Precinct
4-6
I
know
that
on
record,
my
office
sent
you
a
letter
of
absence
stating
that
I
know
this
was
going
to
be
a
proposal
and
that
I
was
okay
with
balancing
or
helping
creating
the
balance
helping
to
balance
the
population.
However,
I
really
would
have
liked
if
it
would
have
been,
it
can
be
a
Precinct
and
I
think
it
is
a
give
and
take
here
right.
AB
So
I
really
would
like
it
to
be
a
Precinct
that
has
more
there's
one
more
contiguous
and
two
more
in
common
with
the
current
neighborhoods
in
District
Seven.
So
four
six,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
goes
up
to
Back
Bay
and
the
Copley.
AB
And
again,
no
issues
with
taking
on
additional
numbers,
although
I'll
be
at
70,
District
Seven
will
be
at
78
000.
AB
people
that
that's
less
of
the
problem
right
because
we
have
to
make
it
work
right.
That's
less
of
a
problem,
so
I'm
with
you
on
that
I
wonder
if
we
can
go
into
Mission
Hill,
where
I
already
share
some
of
Mission
Hill
I've
gotten
a
lot
of
calls
from
the
communities
there.
The
neighborhoods
there,
the
ones
that
I
already
currently
share,
especially
by
heat
Street,
where
I
share
the
housing
there
and
they've
asked
me
to
Advocate
they.
AB
They
feel
that
they
have
very
little
in
common
with
Fenway
and
so
I
guess
that's
sort
of
between
Mission,
Hill
and
JP,
and
they
feel
like
they're
kind
of
out
of
place.
And
so
there
are
several
communities
there.
At
least
the
projects
up
on
the
hill,
where
I
used
to
live
on
Parker,
Hill,
Ave
and
around
those
parts
where
people
feel
that
they
have
more
in
common
with
across
the
street
from
Columbus
Ave,
then
they
do
with
Fenway.
AB
And
so,
with
all
due
respect
to
my
my
previous
colleague
or
the
previous
counselor
to
District,
eight
I've
heard
a
lot
of
advocacy
around
just
not
being
heard
even
with
this
quick
campaign.
That's
going
on
now
currently
having
the
timing.
We
all
know
how
it
is.
I
want
to
extend
Grace
to
Sharon
who's
running
in
the
eight
having
the
time
to
be
able
to
touch
as
many
people
as
possible.
We
know
that
it's
impossible,
so
that
would
take
time
to
grow
and
to
organize
and
to
build
out
Civic
engagement.
AB
However,
if
it's
about
keeping
neighborhoods
together,
especially
in
neighborhoods
that
have
to
share
more
commonality,
I
would
say:
let's
go
into
Mission,
Hill
and
again
being,
if
you
add,
on
the
numbers
and
I
reach
the
highest.
What
is
that
78.5
about
78.5
I?
Think
that's
a
that's
less
of
a
problem,
but
again
it's
it's
not
contiguous.
It's
going
into
a
neighborhood
that
has
absolutely
nothing
in
common
with
District
7.
AB
AB
Sorry,
the
the
force,
the
four
four
and
four
five
right?
So
four,
four
four
five
happens
to
be
a
piece
of
where
Huntington
is
in
the
Arts
Museum
ex
and
then,
when
you
go
up
it
it
does.
The
culture
does
change.
The
neighborhood
does
change.
AB
It
goes
into
Copley
Square,
where
it's
mostly
like
a
lot
of
Tours,
a
lot
of
very
like
affluent
upper
class
like
folks
Less
in
common
with
the
community
that
I
already
have
less
in
common
with
South
End
on
the
right
Less
in
common
with
north,
with
lower
Roxbury
as
well
or
at
the
at
even
worse,
Roxbury.
AB
E
Thank
you
counselor
for
Andrew
Anderson,
councilor
Braden.
You
have
the
floor.
J
Looking
at
this,
it
seems
like
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
10
10
1
Mission
Hill
Precinct,
if
it
went
into
District,
Seven
and
and
four
six
went
in,
went
into
District
eight,
that
that
would
maybe
answer
Fernandez
Anderson's
conundrum.
E
Don't
believe
that
that
would
I
think
that
there
are
a
lot
more
moves
based
on
population
that
you
would
have
to
make
in
order
for
that
to
work,
and
given
that
we
are
on
an
expedited
time,
I
take
counselor,
Finance
innocence,
point
I,
think
it's
a
difference
of
trading
between
one
Precinct
and
a
number
of
precincts,
and
if
it
was
a
if
it
was
an
easy
one
to
one
that
would
be
one
thing,
but
it
wouldn't
be
an
easy
one
to
one
constant
energy,
Edison
you're
the
floor.
AB
I'm
I'm.
Actually,
since
this
is
a
working
session,
I'm
asking
that
the
precinct
gets
moved
out
is
never
belong,
is
never
belonging.
The
history
to
District
Seven
again,
it's
clearly
in
contiguous.
It
does
not
have
common
commonalities
to
the
neighborhood.
Currently
there.
If
you
proceed
into
Copley
in
those
areas,
it
is
not
again
going
to
have
anything
in
common
with
south
end
or
what
I
have
you
can
see
there
that
the
borderline
2
is
a
tiny
piece
of
and
I
I?
AB
Don't
I,
don't
know
what
that
street
is
so,
as
it
picks
up
a
tiny
piece
on
the
left
of
Huntington
Ave,
and
then
it
stops
right
before
Whole
Foods.
So
it's
it's
almost
disconnected
it's
almost
like.
Okay.
Where
do
we
put
this
we're
just
she
who
can
who
can
get?
Who
can
get
numbers
so
I
want
to?
Can
you
move
the
piece,
so
I
can
see
what
it
would
do
to
Fenway
where
it
belongs,
where
it
always
belongs?
Historically,
why
gain
a
new
Precinct
when
I
don't
need
to
gain
anything?
AB
District
Seven
doesn't
need
to
get
anything,
but
also
may
I
see
what
it
would
do
to
the
numbers.
If
you
move
it
back
where
it
belongs
or
where
it
was
already
historically.
E
AB
AB
Seventy
eight
thousand
people,
almost
78
500
people
more
than
anyone
else
more
than
any
District
district
7
already
currently
a
district
that
has
historically
historically
next
to
District
Four.
The
most
disenfranchised
district
will
then
take
on
an
affluent
District
that
has
absolutely
nothing
in
common
with
district
7.
To
add
on
to
already
the
arduous
constituent
service,
I
hear
from
my
colleagues
I
hear
all
the
time
when
you
run,
everyone
will
tell
you
that
district
7
has
the
most
challenging
and
the
most
calls
High
numbers.
3-1-1
will
tell
you.
AB
I
saw
the
data
in
Boston,
and
so
you
would
add
a
district
that
has
nothing
in
common
that
is
not
going
to
relate
to
the
communities.
There
are
the
neighborhoods
there,
so
I'm
asking
you
to
to
unite
the
people
that
I
already
share
in
Mission
Hill
with
what
what's
in
district
7
or
that
I,
not
that
I
not
get
new
numbers.
You
have
districts
there
that
have
71
000
71
000.
AB
If
you
go
down
the
list,
a
74,
74
and
then
district
7
to
go
all
the
way
to
seven
almost
79
000
people
are
already
a
district
again.
That
just
has
tremendous
work
to
do
a
long
way
to
go.
You're
gonna,
you're
gonna
make
it
the
largest
District.
It's
the
representation
is
going
to
be
extremely
difficult
and
again,
I
know
it
better
than
anyone
here.
AB
The
Advocates
know
it
and
I
know
that
a
lot
of
people
are
going
to
talk
about
the
level
of
work
that
you're
adding
to
the
district
by
making
a
71
000
and
again,
if
you,
if
you
connect
it
to
a
community,
a
neighborhood
that
I
already
share
a
part
of,
and
if
you
connect
it
to
some
something
that
hasn't
in
things
in
common
with
district
7
easier
to
organize,
it
will
be
an
extension
of
what's
already
in
existence,
but
connecting
it
to
something
brand
new
that
doesn't
have
anything
in
common
I.
AB
Don't
I,
don't
see
that
as
being
fair
to
District
Seven,
even
for
the
people
on
the
ground,
doing
the
work
and
trying
to
build
district
7
as
a
com
as
a
as
one
United
District,
it's
going
to
pose
more
challenges,
I,
don't
think!
That's
fair
I'm
advocating
for
district
7
and
I'm,
saying
to
you!
Please
don't
put
precincts
that
don't
belong
historically,
has
not
belonged
in
District
Seven
this,
particularly
that
one
that
has
nothing
in
common
with
District
Seven.
AB
Can
they
at
least
entertain,
as
you
have
to
my
colleagues,
entertain
me
going
into
Mission,
Hill
I'm
sure
you've
moved
pieces
around
and
you've
done
that
with
my
colleagues
I've
seen
it?
Can
you
do
that
for.
E
Me
thank
you.
Councilman
Andrew
Anderson
I'd,
like
to
just
note
that
4-6
is
contiguous
with
the
district
and
I'd
also
like
to
say,
as
you
stated,
that
D7
is
one
of
those
districts
that
has
had
polar
ends
and
I
understand
that
that
happens
here.
I'll
also
state
that
District
2
in
terms
of
numbers
is
not
that
far
behind
and
part
of
the
reason
we
made.
E
AB
You,
madam
chair,
can
you
explain
how
that's
contiguous
with
the
rest
of
the
precincts
next
to
it.
AB
Fine,
what
can
you
can
you
explain
the
connection
between
that
Precinct
and
the
one
next,
the
ones
next
to.
E
It
Council
Fernandez
I,
believe
you
on
the
record
stated
what
you
believe.
The
difference
is
to
be
and
not
to
be.
I
put
this
as
an
offer
for
us
to
accommodate
the
move
in
eight
one
and
nine
one.
There
are
similarities
to
the
precincts
next
to
them,
every
Precinct
is
going
to
be
different.
No
one
Precinct
is
the
same
as
the
one
next
to
it,
but.
AB
AB
AB
Is
so
what's
your
reason
for
not
going
into
a
Mission
Hill
well.
E
AB
E
W
Floor,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
counselor,
fernandinos
and
I
think
we
have
been
talking
for
a
couple
of
hours
now
and
we
haven't
actually
made
any
changes
and
so
I'm
curious.
W
It
seems
like
they've
already
have
been
decisions
made,
and
you
know
I've
made
a
suggestion.
Council
Royal
has
been
a
suggestion:
counselor
Mejia,
counselor,
counselor,
Fernandez,
Anderson
and
so
I'm
not
sure
why
we're
here,
if
you've
already
made
decisions
about
what
we're
doing
I'm,
not
sure
why
any
of
the
council
is
here.
W
You've
stated
on
the
record:
I
am
drawing
the
lines
when
we
started
this
process.
You
have
also
said
that
this
is
a
collaborative
process.
There's
only
been
collaboration
with
two
counselors
that
I'm
that
I'm
aware
of,
and
so
the
district
counselors
with
again,
as
you
mentioned,
an
expedited
timeline
and
without
any
Community
process,
the
only
representation
that
these
neighborhoods
have
is
their
counselors,
who
are
sitting
here.
W
E
E
W
E
But
there
are
also
okay,
I'm
speaking
I
will
state
that
to
state
that
it
was
just
for
a
city
councilor
when
there
has
been
incredible
advocacy
on
certain
issues
would
be
missing
the
mark.
It
is
not
just
the
decision
of
one
person.
We
have
heard
incredible
advocacy
from
CPA
from
the
Chinese
Progressive
Association
about
eight
one
and
nine
one
being
together
in
D2,
so
it
is
incorrect
to
say
that
it
is
listening
to
One
City
councilor
over
the
other.
There's
been
incredible
advocacy
that
did
not
start
with
the
city
council
president.
W
Is
the
counselor
for
District
Two
I
am
not
saying
that
councilor
Flynn
requested
that
change,
because
actually
he
didn't
so
again:
District
2,
District,
3
and
all
of
the
changes
that
are
being
done.
No
matter
pan
are
at
the
request
of
counselor
Worrell,
and
so
we
have
a
body
of
12
people
and
it
seems
like
there
are
four
of
you
drawing
the
lines
here
and
nobody
is
being
listened
to
and
I
for
one
have
been
speaking
for
an
hour.
S
W
Legion,
not
only
do
we
have
to
draw
these
lines,
it
has
to
be
passed,
which
means
that
you
have
to
put
something
in
front
of
us
that
we
are
willing
to
vote
for
correct
and
then,
if
we
don't
get
to
a
vote
on
Wednesday,
the
whole
entire
city
will
have
to
push
its
election
back
and
so
I
would
really
really
caution
us
to
start
actually
having
a
conversation.
There
are,
and
you
have
said
that
your
map
has
made
the
least
amount
of
changes.
W
W
It
is
moving
like
President
Flynn,
said
4-6,
with
the
highest
number
of
millionaires
into
District
Seven,
with
no
conversation
now
the
city
councilor
again,
the
only
representation
that
the
people
in
this
District
have
is
that
counselor
who
was
elected
to
represent
them,
and
you
just
went
for
it
back
and
forth
for
15
minutes.
Tell
me
why
you
weren't
going
to
do
it.
E
Y
Thank
you,
councilor
luigien,
I
I
would
just
say
that
I
think
my
colleague
when
she
said
continuous
lines
is
really
speaking
to
Shared
Community
interests
and
more
so
what
is
in
continuity
with
what
the
district
itself
represents
and
so
I
think
it
was
sort
of
a
misunderstanding.
What
the
word
continuous
means,
but
I
think
that's
been
made
clear.
My
thing
here
is
that
we
keep
acting
like
we
can't
touch
this
map
so
in
other
words,
there's
no
population
deficit
for
counselor
Finance
Anderson
in
District
Seven.
Y
If
you
just
take
four
six,
give
it
to
District
Two,
where
it
was
give
seven
seven
give
it
back
to
District
three
where
it
was
there's
not
like.
We
keep
pretending
like
there's
pieces
that
can't
be
moved
to
accommodate
this,
that
don't
force
District
Seven
to
go
into
an
out
of
alignment
or
District
Four,
District,
Five
or
District
Six,
there's
a
bunch
of
different
ways
to
move
these
pieces
to
get
this
done
and
we
keep
acting
like
there's
no
way
to
do
that
when
you're
telling
Finance
Anderson.
Y
Oh
you,
maybe
you
got
to
go
into
Mission
Hill.
Maybe
you
got
to
go
into
South,
Boston
or
or
not
even
South
Boston,
but
Back
Bay
or
Copley
Orton
4-6.
You
don't
have
to
do
any
of
that.
She
can
do
just
have
the
same
district
and
you
can
just
give
seven
seven,
which
was
originally
in
District
three
right
back
to
District
three
and
that
population
problem
is
solved.
E
I
will
allow
that.
Thank
you
that
for.
E
Good
offering
okay
counselor.
X
E
You
before
I
I
did
want
to
go
back
to
a
point
that
was
made
and
something
that
I
do
a
change
that
I
do
want
to
make
to
this
map.
If
we
go
down
and
it's
not
just
off
of
the
testimony
of
one
person,
it
is
the
emails
that
the
committee
has
received
regarding
28,
which
has
historically
been
part
of
District
Five,
and
for
this
conversation
as
we
go
forward,
I
wanted
to
move
28
back
to
where
it
was
in
the
Baseline
map,
which
is
District
five,
which
is
where
it
has
been.
E
U
E
A
A
A
A
B
B
B
C
C
A
A
A
B
D
D
D
A
A
A
B
B
B
C
D
A
A
A
A
B
B
B
D
D
A
A
A
A
B
B
B
C
C
C
A
A
A
B
D
D
A
B
E
Because
we
are
still
waiting
on
my
colleagues,
we
will
start
with
public
testimony
and
I
have
here
signed
up
Karen
Chan
from
the
CPA.
You
now
have
the
floor.
AC
Let's
go
okay,
thank
you.
My
name
is
Karen
Chan
I'm
with
the
Chinese
Progressive
Association
and
for
the
record.
The
Chinese
Progressive
associations
at
28,
Ash
Street
in
Chinatown
and
Ali,
want
to
thank
all
the
counselors
and
your
hard
work
on
this
working
on
this
map
and
hopefully
that
it
won't.
You
know,
interrupt
the
elections
and
I
really
appreciate
counselor
Flynn
and
all
the
counselors
in
support
of
of
keeping
eight
one
and
nine
one
in
District,
Two
and
I
know
that
you
know.
District
Five
is
also
in
discussion.
AC
Although
you
know
we
don't
have
constituents
in
District
Five,
but
we
feel
like
that.
Our
allies
on
New
England
United
for
Justice
and
right
to
the
city
Boston
feel
that
it's
really
important
to
keep.
You
know:
Ward
14,
Precinct,
14
and
District
Five,
for
the
same
reasons
that
you
know
Chinatown
and
South.
End
wants
to
kept
together
as
a
district
and
I
know
that
you
know
more
discussion
will
be
had
about.
You
know
the
southern
part
of
the
map.
You
know
our
hope
is
that
you
know.
AC
In
order
for
us
to
increase,
you
know,
representation
in
underrepresented
communities,
which
is
the
you
know,
entire
purpose
of
you
know
redistricting
and
that
if
we
prioritize
on
community
interests,
besides
keeping
Ward
14
in
Precinct
14
in
District
5
will
be
important
to
keep
as
much
of
Ward
17
together
in
District
4
and
that
throughout
you
know
not
in
this
process,
but
I
think
that
you
know
in
in
October
and
November
of
last
year.
There
are
also
testimony
from
the
Vietnamese
American
Community.
AC
You
know
about
keeping
Ward
16
Precinct
2
and
Ward
16
Precinct
3
together
in
District.
Three,
so
I
know
that
you
know
we
it's
beyond.
You
know
where
we
organize,
but
I,
think
having
have
been
in
hearings.
You
know
this
whole
week,
but
also
throughout
last
year.
We
feel
that
it
will
be
important
for
counselors
to
consider
these.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you
Karen
for
your
testimony.
Just
checking
to
see
if
we
have
anyone
signed
up
to
give
testimony
virtually.
E
E
Okay
is
there
anyone
else
left
to
testify
virtually
okay?
Next
up,
we
have
Melissa
Beltran
Melissa
nice
to
see
you.
You
now
have
the
floor.
Well,
we
don't
see
you
yet.
E
And
for
those
who
are
here
to
public
to
testify
virtually,
can
you
make
sure
you
are
accepting
the
invitation
to
be
a
panelist
so
that
we
can
have
you
testify
before
the
committee?
Thank
you,
hi
Melissa.
You
now
have
the
floor.
E
AD
Hi
good
evening
my
name
is
Melissa.
Beltran
I
am
from
the
city
of
Boston,
specifically
Roxbury
Jamaica
Plain
border
and
I
want
to
testify
an
agreeance
of
representative
Lara's
map.
We
have
to
keep
historically
unified
communities
within
each
other
and
intact
and
we
can
further
divide
our
communities
where
the
interest
matters.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
your
time.
E
E
E
Okay,
okay,
Reggie
Stewart
you're
back.
If
you
would
like
to
testify,
you
now
have
the
floor.
AE
Okay,
great
thank
you
to
the
to
the
chair
and
the
vice
chair,
a
long
story
short
I'm
in
full
support
of
counselor
Lara's
map.
You
know
for
this
simple
reason:
the
people
already
spoke.
You
know
through
the
city
council
when
you
passed,
you
know
the
the
map
that
we
that
we
have
that's
now
enjoined,
and
the
only
thing
at
issue
here
is
the
borders
between
District,
3
and
District
Four
and
councilor.
Laura's
Matt
makes
the
least
amount
of
invasive
changes
and
still
preserves
the
communities
of
Interest.
AE
This
is
not
a
an
opportunity
to
hit
the
reset
button.
That's
not
what
the
judge
ordered.
It
was
very
specific
between
those
borders.
So
that's
how
the
map
needs
to
be
drawn.
The
mayor's
map
is
a
non-starter
and
in
terms
of
community
of
Interest
I,
just
want
to
reiterate
what
I
said
at
a
previous
hearing
that
the
descendants
of
slavery
are
a
community
of
interest,
because
one
of
the
things
that
the
judge
said
that
you
know
race
was
too
big
of
of
a
consideration.
AE
But
if
you
consider
the
institution
of
chattel
slavery,
Jim
Crow
and
the
fact
that
the
specific
group
of
people
have
been
pushed
out
of
the
political
process
out
of
economic
life,
when
you
look
at
historical
factors
and
even
economic
identity,
which
is
one
of
the
things
that
Congress
says,
you
can
consider,
the
descendants
of
slaves
have
a
unique
historical
and
economic
identity
that
deserves
to
be
protected
and
preserved.
AE
E
E
I
want
to
see,
if
many
of
my
colleagues
or
not
yet
back,
if
anyone
has
anything
they'd
like
to
State
for
the
record,
want
to
make
sure
that
everyone
has
some
time
to
speak
but
also
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
expecting
Central
staff
who
they've
been
working
all
day
and
it
is
getting
into
the
evening.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
respecting
everyone's
time.
So
we
will
be
in
a
brief
recess
for
about
for
about
about
five
minutes,
we'll
be
back
here
at
6,
42.
E
When
you
would
like
to
testify,
please
email,
Shane,
yeah,
please
email,
Shane,
s-h-a-n-e,
dot,
pack
p-a-c
at
boston.gov;
again,
that's
Shane,
s-h-a-n-e,
dot,
pack,
p-a-c
boston.gov
again
we'll
be
in
recess
until
about
6
42
6
43,
to
give
people
time
if
they
wanted
to
offer
testimony
and
then
we'll
rejoin
foreign.
E
B
B
E
E
E
E
E
Okay,
please
let
me
in
order
for
you
to
speak
before
the
committee,
you
have
to
accept
the
invitation
to
be
a
panelist,
so
please
accept
the
invitation
to
be
a
panelist,
so
we
can
add
you
to
the
zoom
as
a
panelist
and
then
you
will
be
able
to
address
the
committee.
Thank
you.
E
Sorry
we're
just
waiting
to
make
sure
that
those
who
are
on
us
to
offer
testimony
can
do
so.
It
looks
like
we
were
having
some
technical
difficulties
if
you're
on
here
to
speak,
make
sure
you
accept
the
invitation
to
be
a
panelist
that
you
are
getting
from
the
zoom
prompt
and
that
way
you'll
be
able
to
offer
testimony.
E
AF
Really,
okay!
Well,
it's
good
to
see
you
it's
good
to
talk
to
the
Boston
city
council.
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
few
remarks.
I
won't
use
the
entire
two
minutes.
I
have
some
familiarity
with
the
maps
that
are
being
circulated.
I
just
would
like
to
weigh
in
on
a
map
that
I
think
is
deserving
of
accreditation
and
a
a
a
a
vote
on
and
that's
counselor
Laura's
map.
I.
AF
Think
that
map
ensures
equity
in
our
system,
I
think
by
dividing
up
Mattapan
I
think
you're
dividing
up
a
serious
voting
block
that
should
not
be,
and
in
looking
at
councilor
Laura's
map,
it
keeps
pretty
much
intact.
Matapan
district
and,
as
you
know,
my
practice
of
law
encompasses
the
entire
city
of
Boston,
but
my
offices
are
in
Dorchester,
I
represented
a
large
community
in
matapan
and,
quite
frankly,
Mattapan
is
a
community
of
color
I.
Think
breaking
up
that
Community
significantly,
as
the
other
Maps
tend
to
do.
AF
Waters
down
the
voting
power
of
a
significant
African-American
Community,
a
Haitian,
Community
Latino
community
and
I,
would
just
ask
that
when
you
consider
the
maps
the
most
Equitable
one
for
the
people
of
Mattapan,
the
most
Equitable
one
for
the
people
of
Dorchester
is
that
of
the
Laura
map
and
I'd.
Ask
that
you
cast
your
vote
for
it.
Thank
you.
B
AG
Thank
you
good
evening
and
thank
you,
madam
chairperson,.
AG
Yes,
can
you
hear
me
I
can
hear
you
all
right,
I'm,
sorry,
this
is
technology
okay
good
evening,
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
Madam,
chairperson
and
members
of
the
body
I'm
calling
to
basically
say
that
I'm
a
little
bit
astounded
about
where
we've
come
to
in
less
than
two
weeks,
as
relates
to
we
District
in
the
city
of
Boston
I
started
this
process,
headed
in
ACP
in
1990,
went
through
it
in
2002
and
went
through
again
in
2011-12,
and
here
we
are
trying
to
move
backwards.
AG
The
idea
that
we
create
an
opportunity
District.
We
do
a
number
of
changes
in
order
to
make
sure
that
the
city
of
Boston
had
Equitable
access
for
all
of
his
residents.
We
seem
to
be
taking
a
step
backwards
when
we
presented
I
thought
we
presented
what
was
a
Equitable
map,
and
the
judge
said
that
there
were
two
districts
that
felt
that
they
were
not
receiving
Equitable
treatment,
that
the
city
council
would
put
his
brain
together
and
see
how
they
could
deal
with
those
two
districts.
AG
What
I
see
is
that
they're
trying
to
split
the
community
that
represents
the
most
needed
population
needy
population
in
terms
of
support
and
assistance
in
a
way
that
has
never
been
heard
of
before
Kendra
Laura
God
bless
her
for
using
her
brains
and
intelligence
and
trying
to
make
sure
that
there's
a
map
that
represents
the
30-some
years
of
change
in
progress
that
we've
been
making
that
there's
a
map
in
place.
That
says
we're
going
to
show
some
Equity
respect
and
support
for
those
who,
mostly
in
need.
AG
The
maps
that
I've
seen
come
forward,
clearly
have
tried
to
undermine
the
voting
power.
The
voting
value
and,
and
also
the
economic
equity
of
a
community
that's
been
in
need,
which
is
particularly
the
Black
and
Latino
community
in
Boston,
so
I'm
urging
people
to
rethink
what
they're
doing,
because
I
read
the
report
of
the
judge
and
it
didn't
call
for
what
people
are
trying
to
do
what
it
called
for
for
us
to
get
some
balance
in
two
districts.
AG
Now
we're
trying
to
change
the
whole
map
so
that
people
who
have
been
out
of
balance
in
terms
of
equity
access
lose
complete
access
and
autonomy
and
Authority,
because
they've
been
put
in
districts
that
have
no
money
relationship
to
them
at
all.
Unless
you
came
up
these
ideas,
I'm
just
saying
as
a
person
who's
been
at
this
politics
now
for
50
years
in
the
city
of
Boston.
This
is
the
most
egregious
act,
I've
seen
in
a
long
time.
I.
AG
Thank
you,
Laura
for
our
Progressive
and
intelligent
decision
to
put
something
forward
that
I
think
reasonable.
Intelligent
people
can
agree
to,
but
it's
up
to
you,
the
city
councils,
to
look
it
open
and
think
about
what
is
it
that
she's
proposing
and
what
the
other
maps
are
proposing
and
look
at
what
was
on
the
table
when
the
judge
basically
said
they
needed
some
adjustment.
So
this
is
a
little
bit
more.
AG
AB
E
Okay,
Jonathan
Cohn.
AB
Okay,
so
can
we
can
we
Circle
back
after
our
statements,
if
he's
on.
B
AB
AB
The
floor,
thank
you
so
what
the
argument
that
thank
you,
madam
chair,
the
argument
that
you
posed
about
four
six
in
terms
of
being
contiguous
I
checked
with
Ward,
four
and
folks
have
who
have,
and
obviously
the
chair,
the
previous
chair,
who
has
been
there
for
years
doing
this
work,
Jonathan
Cohen.
He
can
testify
on
his
own,
and
he
mentioned
that
and
I
know
this
already,
but
I'm
from
the
community
perspective,
I'm
letting
you
know
that
this
is
I.
AB
I
couldn't
support
a
map
that
actually
takes
Copley
in
the
Back
Bay
and
puts
it
in
District
Seven,
considering
that
historically
it
doesn't
belong
to
67.
It
belongs
to
District
eight,
the
community
in
Ward
Force
telling
me
that
belongs
in
District
8.
AB
I'm
telling
you
as
a
counselor
of
district
7
that
it
belongs
in
District
they.
We
know
it
belongs
in
District,
eight
and
so
for
a
better
option.
Taking
412
and
four
seven
would
give
you
that
same
similar
population
that
you're
looking
for
the
balancing
out
and
what
are
the?
What
are
the
four
twelve
and
four
seven.
V
AB
E
Sorry,
yeah
there's
a
population
issue
I'm,
not
sure
what
you're
at
80
500
right
now,
I'm.
AB
I'm,
not
sure
is,
is
nine
two
back
or
nine
two
is
with
you.
Yes
is
with
me:
yes
did
I
have
nine
two
before
hold
on
one.
Second,
sorry,
current
I
see
so
nine
two
never
left
nope
all
right.
Well,
the
idea
is
that
one
of
those
would
make
much
more
sense.
AB
AB
If
you
wanted
to
make
sense
out
of
adding
population
to
district
seven,
one
of
those
would
make
more
sense
than
adding
Back
Bay.
That
is,
has
never
been
in
district
7
and
has
absolutely
nothing
in
common
with
District
7..
So
and
again,
the
ward
4
and
the
community
and
Advocates
are
all
saying
the
same
thing
and
as
a
counselor
I'm
saying
I'm,
saying
to
you
adding
something
that
you
are
just
you're
trying
to
justify
the
numbers
around,
because
changes
need
to
happen
and
you've
advocated
you.
AB
You
yourself,
Madam
chair,
have
advocated
for
South
Boston
to
be
whole
for
Dorchester
to
be
put
back
together
in
D3,
and
then
you've
also
advocated
for
Roxbury
to
be
put
together,
and
so
I'm
saying
to
you
in
the
interest
of
working
collaboratively,
makes
sense
out
of
it
and
not
add
Back
Bay
go
to
areas
where
it
has
more
in
common
with
what
I,
already
with
what
D7
already
has
and
I
think
you
know
justifiably
so
like
you
can
argue
that,
with
what
the
judge
has
asked
us
to
do
in
terms
of
keeping
communities
together,.
E
Thank
you,
Council
Fernandez,
Anderson,
I.
Take
your
points
and
I
have
been
noted
for
the
record
and
will
take
another
look
at
the
map.
I
can
you,
but
for
the
sake
of
being
ending
with
population
balance,
can
you
undo
those
changes?
You
could
just
do
control
Z
controls,
evil,
take
care
of
it.
AB
E
AB
Just
if
you
add
just
one
and
you
put
it
back,
then
what
what's
the
population
in
d8?
What
do
you
mean?
If
you
add
just
one
of
them
like,
if
you
add
just
412
or
just
four
seven
into
your
District
and
you
take
away
the
four
six.
AB
Yeah
yeah,
so
she
sorry
d8
has
how
many
d8.
E
Has
76
that
DA
has
76
581,
okay
and
D7
has
what
78
264.
AB
M
E
G
It's
the
product
of
him,
and
can
we
see
what
the
population
is?
What
do
we
do.
E
I
see
exactly
everyone's
within
the
margin
yeah
we
were
at
the
beginning
so
and
we're
now
at
the
we're
at
the
everyone's
within
population
balance.
Okay,
so
so
this
is
a
map
that
meets
the
population,
balance
okay,
I'm.
G
G
Okay,
then,
what
do
we
did
we
square
away
between
four
and
five?
We.
E
Probably
have
more
discussions
and
those
counselors
are
you
know
one
counselors
here,
the
other
is
not
and
I
think
those
conversations
will
continue,
but
we
do
have
a
map.
Okay,.
AB
Through
the
chair,
Council
Baker,
if
you
could
answer
me,
are
you,
okay,
with
the
map
at
this
point?
I'm
sorry,
I
missed
the
first
half
well.
G
I,
like
I,
like
the
fact
that
that
my
district
District
3
is
adding
like
if,
if
we
have
to
balance
population
and
I'm,
the
lowest
I
could
never
wrap
my
head
around
why
we
were
cutting
precincts
from
District
three.
So
I
like
the
fact
that
I
have
my
district
viewed
as
whole
I
like
getting
one
and
three
back,
because
those
were
District.
G
Three
in
my
when
I
my
initial
run,
I
did
a
lot
of
work
in
the
Vietnamese
community
and
and
and
that
completes
Dorchester
Ave,
which
is
part
of
the
reason
why
I
want
to
keep
1713,
because
that
continues
to
that's
Dorchester
Ave,
that's
a
that's
a
transportation!
That's
a
transportation
route
for
me
and
I
think
that's
important
for
district
three!
G
So,
basically
having
my
district
hole,
the
way
it
is
and
when
like,
where
do
I
gain,
I'm
flexible
on
and
and
where
I
need
to
gain
I'm
I'm,
I'm
open
to
it
as
long
as
I'm,
not
dropping
precincts.
That
I
think
all
work
together.
We're
all
talking
about
neighborhoods
that
work
together
here
so
I'm
as
happy
as
I
guess
as
I
as
I
could
be.
G
So
I
think
that
strengthens
that
opportunity,
yeah
a
Vietnamese
or
an
or
an
Asian
candidate,
because
I
think
we
have
in
District
three
18
or
19
of
the
population.
E
Z
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
just
so
we
show
people
at
home
in
the
public.
If
you
remove
1414
Emily
I
just
want
to
just
yeah
we're
moving
from
D4
I
guess.
Z
District
four
has
six
like
1414
since
1983
has
been
part
of
this
district
and
because
District
Four
is
losing
two
precincts
1601
and
16.
Oh
16
3.,
the
district
needs
to
grow,
and,
to
me
this
is
the
most
logical
place.
It
unites
more
Blue,
Hill
Ave
inside
of
the
district.
It
creates
more
contiguity,
more
identifiable
boundaries
and
it
unites
Award
right
under
one
District,
so
I
just
wanted
to
just
show
everyone
that
I'm
fine
with
this
border
down
here
on
District
4
and
District
Five,
and
the
reason
is
reasons
around
it.
K
Floor.
Thank
you.
Madam
chair
and
I
I've
held
my
comments
just
to
listen
to
the
entirety
of
the
conversation
again.
I
am
on
the
margins
of
all
of
this
I
feel
very
privileged
in
this
conversation.
So
just
wanted
to
hear
from
everybody
I
think
just
based
on
everything
going
from
north
to
south.
K
You
know,
District
2
has
has
shed,
which
is
what
needs
to
happen.
I
just
want
to
commend
councilor
Flynn
for
getting
to
a
point
where
he
is
or
well
I'm
not
going
to
speak
for
him,
but
I
think
you
know
we're
at
77
with
this
map.
77
000
for
his
district,
which
is
great,
and
that's
also
keeping
eight
one
and
nine
one
together
and
that's
something
that
we
heard
from
The
Advocates
that
we
wanted
to
do.
I
also
heard
the
need
to
keep
seven
six
and
seven
seven.
K
Together
we
were
able
to
do
that.
We
were
successful
in
that
we
were
successful
in
keeping
16
1
16,
2
and
16
three
together,
that's
Little,
Saigon,
that's
what
the
District
counselor
from
from
our
district
three
was
was
saying.
So
we've
done
that
and
we've
also
hit
a
balance
in
District
3
too.
So
just
thinking
about
it
and
how
the
chips
are
falling
and
then
obviously,
thinking
about
what
the
judge
has
charged
us
to
do,
we're
keeping
Ward
16
as
as
whole
as
we
can.
K
It
is
a
natural
progression
and
I
see
and
I'm
visualizing
the
natural
Cadence
of
what
you're
talking
about
of
where
folks
need
to
grow.
Council
Royal
just
walked
us
through
what
it
will
look
like
if
he
doesn't
have
I
think
it's
1405
and
1414.
K
and
he
is
under
population
he's
at
69
000.,
and
so
it
is
natural
to
gain
some
precincts
in
that
area.
Unless
we're
going
into
Roxbury,
which
I
know
we
don't
want
to
do,
we
want
to
keep
Roxbury
whole
and
so
I
understand
that
there
are
folks
who
are
upset
and
again
coming
from
a
place
of
privilege.
I
I,
don't
know
what
that's
like,
but
I.
K
K
It's
not
easy,
but
I
see
the
natural
Cadence
as
go
as
we're
going
through
the
conversation
of
what
it
means
to
be
able
to
hit
population
balance
in
a
way
that
is
compact,
contiguous
and
considers
communities
of
interest,
and
so
what
you
have
proposed
I
think
it's
District
map,
one
eight
five,
four
three
six
is
is
getting
there
and
again
no
one's
going
to
be
happy
100
of
the
time,
but
at
least
we
can
say
that
this
was
truly
a
compromise.
So
those
are
my
comments
sure
and
thank
you
very
much.
K
E
X
Thing
I
am
so
incredibly
grateful
that
I
am
able
to
sit
in
this
chair
without
any
Allegiance
other
to
the
people
who
put
me
here
so
I
can
speak
incredibly
freely
without
any
fear
or
repercussions,
because
the
people
who
put
me
here
are
the
ones
that
could
take
me
out.
So
that
gives
me
so
much
freedom
to
not
be
a
politician
and
I'm
so
happy
that
I
have
that
privilege
of
being
able
to
speak
freely
with
no
agendas
or
political
aspirations.
X
So
it
gives
me
a
lot
of
freedom
that
a
lot
of
folks
just
struggle
with
here,
so
I
still
think
that
we
have
yet
to
get
to
where
we
need
to
be
right
and
I
really
do
appreciate
the
appreciate
the
the
balance
and
the
back
and
forth
I'm
still
always
going
to
ask.
Who
are
we
carrying
water
for
and
who
are
we
here
to
really
represent?
And
what
does
that
look
like
and
I'm
always
going
to
question
how
we
move
and
who
we
move?.
P
X
E
You
and
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
all
my
Council
colleagues
for
being
here
for
everyone
who
testified
public
testimony.
The
process
of
redistricting
is
not
an
easy
one.
E
It
one
it's
one
that
requires
a
lot
of
Sweat
Equity
to
make
sure
that
we
are
centering
the
voices
of
the
people
and
making
sure
that
we're
getting
this
right
so
I
want
to
also
thank
Central
staff
who
have
stayed
with
us
and
who
have
been
an
instrumental
part
of
us
moving
forward
on
this
and
look
forward
to
continued
discussions
with
all
of
my
colleagues.
Thank
you.
E
This
hearing
is
adjourned
next
hearing
on
this
is
tomorrow
at
two
o'clock
and
again,
if
you
would
like
to
testify,
please
send
an
email
to
Shane
dot
pack
boston.gov
again,
that's
Shane
s-h-a-n-e
dot
pack
boston.gov,
and
you
are
welcome
to
come
here
in
person
to
the
ionella
chamber
tomorrow
at
2PM.
This
meeting
is
here
by
adjourned.