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From YouTube: Civil Rights & Immigrant Advancement on May 19, 2023
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Civil Rights & Immigrant Advancement-Dockets #0928-A hearing regarding the federal court order to pass a new Council district map. #0930- Message and ordinance amending City Council electoral districts. #0935-Documents regarding redistricting litigation. #0936-Documents regarding minutes of the Committee on Redistricting and messages of disapproval. #0937- Documents regarding redistricting archival records. #0941- Ordinance Amending City Council Electoral Districts. #0942-Ordinance Amending City Council Electoral Districts. #0959- Ordinance Amending City Council Electoral Districts.
B
B
City
councilor
at
large
I
am
the
chair
of
the
Boston
city
council
committee
on
civil
rights
and
immigrant
advancement.
Today,
I
am
joined
by
my
colleagues.
This
hearing
is
being
recorded.
It
is
being
live
streamed
at
boston.gov
forward,
slash
City,
Dash,
Council,
Dash,
TV
and
broadcast
on
Xfinity
channel
8
RCN
channel
82
FiOS
channel
964..
Rand
comments
may
be
sent
to
the
committee
email
at
ccc.civilrights
boston.gov
and
will
be
made
part
of
the
record
and
available
to
all
counselors
public.
Testimony
will
be
taken
at
the
end
of
this
hearing.
B
We
may
switch
this
up
so
I
just
wanted
to
be
clear
for
my
Council
colleagues
and
for
everyone
in
attendance.
B
This
is
really
a
working
session
where
we
are
going
to
work
through
the
maps
that
we
have
before
us
so
that
we
can
comply
with
the
judge's
order
for
a
new
map,
but
because
of
the
expedited
timeline,
we
will
also
be
hearing
public
testimony,
which
is
why
it
was
listed
as
a
public
hearing,
and
so
we
may
take
some
things
out
of
order
to
accommodate
people,
but
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
what
the
format
will
be
like
if
you
wish
to
sign
up
for
public
testimony
here
in
the
chamber,
please
sign
in
on
the
sheet
near
the
door
if
you
are
looking
to
testify
virtually
please
email,
Shane
pack,
shane.pac
boston.gov,
for
the
link
and
your
name
will
be
added
to
the
list.
B
Docket
number
0935
live
documents
regarding
redistrating
litigation,
docket
number
0936
documents
regarding
minutes
of
the
committee
on
redistricting
and
messages
of
disapproval,
docket
number0937
documents
regarding
redistricting,
our
archival
records,
docket,
number,
zero,
nine,
four
one
ordinance
amending
city
council,
electoral
districts,
docket
number,
0942,
ordinance,
amending
city
council,
electoral
districts
and
docket
number
0959,
ordinance
amending
city
council
electoral
districts
in
order
of
arrival,
I
am
joined
by
my
colleagues
city
council
president
Ed
Flynn
from
District
Two
City
councilor,
Ricardo,
Arroyo,
District,
Five,
City,
councilor,
Brian,
warrell,
District,
4,
Council,
Frank,
Baker,
District,
3,
councilor,
Liz,
braid,
Liz
Braden.
B
There
you
go
District,
9,
councilor,
Kendra,
Lara,
district
6
and
counselor
Gabriella
collater
district
one.
So
far
we
have
a
few
folks
signed
up
for
virtual
testimony
and
we
have
some
folks
signed
up
here.
So
I
want
to
thank
my
colleagues
for
being
present
and
I
want
to
thank
members
of
the
public
who
are
here
with
us,
so
that
we
can
do
the
work
in
an
expedited
fashion
of
complying
with
the
judge's
order
to
have
a
new
map
so
that
we
can
have
elections
for
this
year.
B
We
are
on
a
May
30th
deadline
to
get
something
done,
which
is
which
means
that
we
would
need
to
vote
on
a
map
next
Wednesday
at
our
city
council.
Hearing
I
want
to
thank
Liz,
Braden,
Council
Liz
Braden
for
her
incredible
work
on
getting
us
a
map
last
fall
and
we
need
to
comply
with
the
judge's
order
to
make
sure
that
we
are
not
violating
the
Constitution.
B
We
are
here
to
do
the
work
to
enact
a
new
map,
as
has
been
reported
heavily
and,
as
we
know,
as
has
been
filed
with
this
body
and
the
purpose
of
this
hearing
there
are,
there
have
been
four
Maps
filed,
one
from
the
mayor,
one
from
myself,
one
from
counselor
Lara
and
one
from
counselor,
Michael,
Flaherty
and
so
I
want
to
give
people
the
opportunity
I.
There
are
some
folks
of
my
some
of
my
colleagues
who
are
missing.
B
I
will
now
give
my
Council
colleagues
an
opportunity
for
a
brief
opening
statement.
City
council
president
Flynn.
C
Our
city
is
grateful
for
economic
growth
in
many
other
parts
of
my
district
but
On
Any,
Given,
Saturday
or
Sunday
in
the
summertime.
You
won't
find
me
in
Cape,
Cod
or
up
in
Maine
or
at
a
fancy.
Restaurant
I'll
be
with
my
constituents
at
a
cookout
in
Boston
Housing
Authority
under
May
Woo's
map,
all
of
South
Boston's
public
housing
developments
are
in
District
too,
including
Mary.
C
Ellen
McCormick
I
also
believe
that
mayor
will
and
a
team
have
put
in
good
faith
efforts
in
presenting
their
proposed
map
and
I
do
believe
that
this
map
can
help
unify
Boston
I
respect
the
mayor's
leadership
on
this
issue.
In
working
with
the
council
and
I
know,
our
Council
has
to
do
their
due
diligence
as
well
again.
I
think
this
is
an
important
distinction
that
our
colleagues
on
the
council
have
to
decide
is
to
make
this
work.
We
need
to
give
a
little
and
take
a
little
to
compromise.
C
That's
what
politics
is
about
now
is
that
now
is
not
the
time
for
political
games.
It's
time
to
put
aside
differences
come
together,
show
important
positive
leadership,
ethical
leadership
for
the
people
of
Boston.
We
came
here
in
the
spirit
of
public
service,
again
I'm
asking
everyone
to
put
politics
aside
outside
distractions,
aside,
influences
Assad
and
do
what's
right
for
the
residents
of
Boston.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
B
Thank
you,
Mr
President,
councilor,
Baker,.
D
Thank
you,
madam.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
glad
to
see
the
Baseline
map
out
here.
As
you
know,
the
one
violation
that
we
had
in
the
redistricting
process
that
we
had
the
one
violation
that
we
knew
we
needed
to
cure
was
was
population,
and
this
Baseline.
This
Baseline
map
got
us
pretty
close
I
want
to
say
that
the
the
the
bottom
number
would
be
about
70
72
500,
if
my
math
or
7175
I
think
so
District
three
was
at
69
638.
D
Hopefully
we're
going
to
use
this
as
a
as
a
jumping
off
to
see
where
we
go.
I
do
I
am
encouraged
by
most
of
the
maps
having
the
boot,
which
was
the
Crux
of
a
lot
of
the
odds
that
we
had
around
here
or
I
had
around
here,
but
happy
to
see
the
the
Baseline
map
at
least
out
here.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
B
Thank
you,
counselor
Baker,
councilor
Arroyo.
If
you
have
any
open
statements.
B
Thank
you,
counciloral.
F
B
You
councilor
Braden.
G
H
B
Thank
you,
counselor
colada
thank.
I
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
look
forward
to
working
with
everyone
as
per
usual
for
me,
and
also
I,
have
a
map,
obviously
for
consideration
that
is
obviously
amendable
in
Partnership,
obviously
with
our
colleagues
and,
in
fact,
I
recently,
just
when
one
of
our
colleagues
had
moved
recently.
J
So
that's
one
of
the
changes
that
has
to
be
incorporated
that
I
have
not
done
yet
but
again,
I
have
a
map
for
consideration
which
I
view
as
a
neighborhood
Unity
map
that,
if
folks
have
input
I
am
amenable
to
amending
it,
but
again
I
think
in
the
spirit
of
cooperation.
If
our
colleagues,
particularly
our
district
colleagues,
are
willing
to
come
to
the
table
in
good
faith
earnestly
and
and
selflessly
willing
to
give
up
two
three
four
precincts
and
willing
to
accept
two
three
four
precincts.
J
B
And
digging
in
and
doing
the
work,
thank
you
to
my
Council
colleagues.
I
want
to
want
us
to
get
right
to
work.
I.
Thank
my
colleagues.
We
know
that
I
I
believe
we
are
closer
than
a
peers,
because
we
are
really
talking
about
some
precincts
and
how
do
we
move
it
to
make
sure
that
we
are
complying
with
the
law
which,
first
and
foremost,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
the
districts
are
roughly
equal
population
to
comply
with
the
Constitution?
The
requirement
to
have
one
person
one
vote.
B
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we
are
complying
with
another
background,
important
legal
principle
in
the
Voting
Rights
Act,
and
then
we
have
the
redistricting
principles
that
are
incredibly
important,
such
as
compactness
contiguity,
preservation
of
neighborhoods
and
political
boundaries,
communities
of
Interest,
which
which
can
sometimes
be
harder
to
nail
down.
But
those
are
our
guiding
principles.
They
are
not
laws,
but
they
are
important,
guiding
principles
and
so
I
think
my
colleagues
who
come
to
this
with
a
spirit
of
of
compromise
and
figuring
things
out,
so
that
we
can
get
this
map
passed.
B
This
is
a
very
again
I'll
say
this.
Redistring
is
one
of
the
most
contentious
things
the
legislative
body
will
ever
have
to
do,
but
we
also
need
to
be
reminded
that
the
voters
choose
us
and
we
don't
choose
our
voters,
and
so
I
think.
My
colleagues
who
have
stated
have
talked
about
my
leadership.
I
believe
that
we
can
get
to
a
good
place
here.
As
a
lawyer.
B
Working
in
this
space,
I
know
that
there
is
off
is
often
more
to
it
than
meets
the
eye,
and
we
know
that
there
are
folks
following
along,
so
I
hope
that
this
process
can
be
one
that
invites
all
of
you
in
to
understand
the
importance
of
redistricting
and
the
requirement
for
us
to
every
10
years,
get
our
districts
right
and
so
I
believe
counselor,
Tony,
Fernandez
and
I
gave
all
my
Council
College
an
opportunity
to
make
an
opening
statement.
B
If
you
have
one
well
wanted
to
Dive
Right
In
I
first
wanted
to
start
with
the
map
that
the
mayor
filed,
which
she
filed
in
an
attempt
to
move
the
process
forward
so
that
we
could
finalize
a
map
and
so
that
potential
candidates
can
know
how,
where
they
live
and
and
what
district
they
live
and
how
they
can
run.
B
But
they
won't
know
that
if
they
don't
know
what
district
that
they're
in
so
the
mayor,
as
the
council
president
stated
presented
a
map
that
in
some
areas
you're
not
you,
know,
unified
neighborhoods
across
our
city,
but
we've
also
heard
from
folks
about
concerns
that
they
have
with
the
mayor's
map,
and
so
at
this
time,
council
president
Flynn
spoke
on
the
mayor's
map.
If
there
are
anyone
else
who
wants
to
say
anything
about
the
mayor's
map,
now
is
your
time
to
put
your
light
on.
B
If
you
want
to
speak
and
support
or
in
favor
or
have
any
comments.
Now
is
the
time
thank
you,
councilor
Braden
I,
believe
you
had
your
mic
on.
First
thank.
G
You,
madam
chair
I,
I,
think
we
have
looked
at
the
maps
the
marriage
map,
the
the
four
maps
that
we
have
in
front
of
us
this
afternoon.
One
big
concern
about
the
mayor's
map
is
just
the
huge
number
of
people
that
are
reapportioned
to
resettled,
put
in
different
districts
when
you
do
a
Precinct
move
on
the
from
the
Baseline
map.
G
The
mayor's
the
the
marriage
map
moves,
747,
precincts,
Contra
Lara's
map
moves,
20,
precincts,
councilor,
Louisiana's
map
moves,
13,
precincts
and
concert.
Flaherty's
map
moves,
43
precincts
the
map,
so
you
know
we
talk
about
core
retention
and
not
moving
and
just
moving
a
lot
of
people
between
different
pre-districts
in
a
redistricting
process.
I
think
if
we
had
18
months
to
do
this,
I
think
we
could
be
thinking
of
some
more
really
more
dramatic
shifts
in
our
precincts
and
our
district
lines
all
across
the
city.
B
Thank
you,
councilor
Braden,
and
the
work
that
you've
done
in
this
area
really
shows
I.
Think
I
agree
with
you,
I
think,
while
there's
no
legal
requirement
where
we
start
whether
there's
been
an
argument
starting
from
the
Baseline
starting
from
the
enacted
map,
I
do
think
that
we
are
at
a
place
where
we
should
be
conscious
of
the
number
of
changes
that
we're
making
and
so
I
I.
Take
that
point
and
thank
you.
Councilada.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I'd,
like
to
take
a
moment
to
not
speak
as
somebody
who
has
offered
a
map
on
the
floor,
but
to
speak
as
the
district
councilor
for
District
Six
mayor
Wu's
map
is
incredibly
disruptive
to
my
district
and
I.
Think
one
of
the
things
that
I've
heard
councilor
Flaherty,
say,
and
now
you
on
the
floor
is
that
we
don't
get
to
choose
our
voters.
They
choose
us
I,
think
making
a
move
of
an
entire
neighborhood
into
one
District
really
does
feel
like.
H
We
are
choosing
our
voters
and
putting
them
there,
especially
in
a
district
that
does
not
have
any
representation
moving
the
entire
neighborhood
of
Mission
Hill
without
proper
Community
process
or
any
representative
on
this
body
feels
inappropriate.
In
addition
to
that,
it
splits
up
to
make
a
plane
and
makes
changes
in
a
way
that
does
not
is
not
in
alignment
with
the
traditional
principles
of
redistricting.
H
It
doesn't
protect
the
district
core
and
it
absolutely
separates
communities
of
interest
and
I
can
make
other
comments
on
after
folks
have
spoken
about
the
other
changes
that
I
think
make
this
map
not
a
good
place
to
start
in,
but
I
think
right
now.
I'll
just
leave
them
to
my
comments
on
District
Six.
Thank.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I'm,
excited
to
see
somewhat
of
an
epiphany
in
terms
of
as
we're
putting
this
map
together
that
the
concerns
that
are
being
echoed
here
in
the
chamber
were
brought
to
everyone's
attention
when
we
first
started
this
process
and
we're
we're
ignored
so
I'm
excited
for
the
fresh
start,
I'm
excited
to
be
hearing
these
things.
I
wish.
We
heard
them
last
fall,
but
also
would
offer
a
suggestions
to
my
colleagues.
Just
in
light
of
my
experiences.
J
So
I
just
throw
that
in
as
we're
looking
at
different
maps
and
we're
looking
to
work
together
and
council
is
willing
to
come
forward
in
Ernst
willing
to
give
up,
precincts
and
willing
to
accept
precincts
that
that
the
mayor's
map
I
believe,
has
some
semblance
of
what,
when
which
took
place
down
at
the
moakley
courthouse.
So
again.
J
Looking
forward
to
the
dialogue
and
discussion
and
folks
are
willing
to
be
willing
to
accept
two
three
four
precincts
and
willing
to
potentially
have
to
see
three
four
precincts
I
think
we're
going
to
get
fired
quickly,
but
if
we're
just
going
to
nibble
on
the
edges,
we
may
find
ourselves
back
there.
That's
all!
Thank
you,
madam.
B
Thank
you,
Council
Flaherty,
counselor,
Braden,
oh
and
I.
I
did
just
want
to
say
that
I
agree
with
you
with
respect
to
consultation
with
corporate
Corporation
Council
with
respect
to
the
legal
issue
that
was
at
hand
with
which
was
disagreeing
for
which
I
think
that
level
of
specificity
is
is
probably
important.
Okay,
Council
Braden
thank.
G
You,
madam
chair,
the
other
issue
of
concern,
as
we
discuss
all
of
this
is
that
one
of
these
districts,
District
8,
does
not
have
a
sitting.
District
concert
right
now,
and
it
is
one
of
the
districts
in
the
marriage
map
that
is
seeing
the
most
movement
of
like
24
000
residents
and
districts
they've
been
moved
into
District
Six.
G
B
Thank
you,
Council
Braden
I
also
would
like
to
note
that
I've
been
joined
by
counselor
Aaron
Murphy.
If
I
share
of
the
committee
do
any
of
my
other
Council
council
president
edflin.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
also
wanted
to
note
another
Precinct
in
the
mayor's
map,
which
is
eight
six
mass
and
casts
certainly
a
challenging
issue
for
all
of
us
to
city-wide
challenges.
It's
a
issue
impact
in
the
entire
state
that
that
area
would
would
go
into
District,
Two,
And
I.
Think
it's
I
think
it's
important
part.
It
would
be
an
important
part
of
District
2
in
ensuring
the
residents
in
that
area
are
are
connected
because
we
are
connected
closely
to
the
Andrews
square
area
as
well.
C
B
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
just
wanted
also
to
make
sure
that
it
was
on
the
record
that
lawyers
for
civil
rights
has
filed
to
intervene
in
response
to
Mayor
Woo's
map
and
have
been
doing
a
lot
of
analysis
about
water
dilution,
so
that
you
know
we
hear
counselor
Flaherty
in
in
his
sharing
of
not
wanting
to
go
back
to
court.
There
is
also
a
possibility
that
Mayors
mayor
Woo's
map
could
also
end
up
bringing
us
back
to
court
because
of
VRA
violations.
So
there
is
some.
There
is
something
there.
H
K
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Chair
just
would
like
to
put
on
the
record
that
hearing
these
concerns
I'm
happy
to
hear
them
now,
but
these
were
the
concerns
that
myself
and
a
few
of
the
others
were
voicing
in
the
last
process
of
this
redistricting
that
disrupting
the
core
of
a
particular
District,
ignoring
communities
of
Interest,
not
having
meetings
or
a
time
to
have
meetings
in
particular
neighborhoods
that
would
be
disrupted
the
most
and
councilor
Braden.
I.
Take
your
point
that
this
map
makes
a
lot
of
changes
to
District
8.
K
district
3,
which
nine
of
us
in
this
Council
and
the
mayor
approved,
had
a
47
percent
new
voters
in
District
3.,
47
percent
of
seven
around
75
000
voters.
So
this
body,
many
of
this
body
already
did
approve
a
map
that
did
that
so
I'm
really
hoping
that
we
mean
what
we
say
now
going
forward
and
as
an
at-large
City
councilor.
K
It
was
three
and
four
that
was
disrupted
most
last
time
and
I
was
vocal
about
supporting
that
so,
depending
on
which
district
now
I
just
want
to
be
on
the
record
saying
that
as
an
at-large,
counselor
I
will
be
voicing
the
same
concerns
if
it's
happening
to
any
other
District
across
the
city.
So
thank
you,
chair.
B
Thank
you,
councilor
Braden,
it
looks
like
you
are
you're
about
to
turn
your
light
on
because
of
Brayden.
You
don't
have
the
floor.
I.
G
Think
when
we
lay
on
the
map
side
on
the
table
and
compare
the
the
map
that
was
in
in
enacted
with
the
maps
that
are
on
the
table
right
now,
the
the
map
that
was
enacted
moved
a
very,
very
small
number
of
people
across
the
city,
7.3
49
534
people
were
moved
into
a
different
District.
The
mayor's
map
actually
moves
109,
000
and
three
people
into
a
different
district
and
that
the
core
retention
is
83.9.
G
B
You
councilor
Baker.
D
But
the
people,
the
amount
of
people
that
come
out
of
I,
mean
out
of
one
District
was
was
fifty
percent
of
basically
50
of
Voters
would
be
new
people
in
District
three,
this
the
Wu
map
I,
think
it
shares
the
pain.
Everybody
feels
a
little
bit
of
pain
there
and
people
don't
like
it.
So
I
like
the
fact
that
it
shares
the
pain
and
it
sends
District
three
into
what
I.
What
I
advocated
for
was
the
Dorchester
based
District
this.
D
This
puts
District
three
all
in
Dorchester,
but
I
lose
I
happen
to
lose
the
precincts.
The
something
that
happened
to
me
good
in
last
redistricting
was
I,
picked
up,
Precinct,
seven,
eight
and
seven
nine,
which
are
traditionally
back
to
parishes,
St
Margaret's
Parish,
where
I
grew
up,
neighborhood
split
in
half,
so
that's
if
it
makes
you
all
feel
better.
I'm
still
feeling
some
pain
in
that
map
there,
maybe
not
as
much
but
my
neighborhood
that
I'm
that
I
grew
up
in
is
split
in
this
woo
map.
Everybody
needs
to
feel
a
little
pain.
K
Murphy,
thank
you,
chair
yeah
I.
Just
want
to
be
clear
that
overall
of
the
nine
districts,
some
had
zero
percent
changes.
Some
had
very
little
one
or
two
precincts.
If
anything,
but
District
three
had
47
percent
compared
to
the
overall
7.3.
So
there
was
one
District
feeling
the
brunt
of
the
disruption
that
was
unnecessary.
K
Knowing
that
we
went
into
that
process
needing
to
add
voters,
and
we
took
a
whole
bunch
out
and
then
needed
to
add
even
more
in
so
just
going
to
be
watching
closely
making
sure
that
we're
sticking
to
the
principles
and
the
priorities
that
we
have
already
spoken
about
on
the
record.
So
thank
you.
Chip
thank.
H
You
councilada
thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
just
wanted
to
clarify
for
the
record,
because
I
think
that
to
councilor
Baker's
point
that
we
all
need
to
feel
a
little
pain.
That
is
not
true
right
when
there
is
a
constitutional
violation
when
the
door
is
unlocked
to
make
the
district
changes.
It's
because
we
need
to
balance
population
for
districts
where
the
population
is
already
near
or
close
to
what
is
required.
H
If
we're
not
following
the
one-person
one-vote
Clause
that
unlocks
the
door
for
us,
do
we
do
redistricting,
and
then
we
can
look
around
and
see
what
we
can
do.
But
it's
not
required
that
everybody
have
changes
in
their
district
and
I.
Think,
particularly
now,
because
we
have
already
gone
through
a
process
and
a
community
process.
We
are
and
I
think
it
is
in
our
best
interest
to
protect
ourselves
legally
to
focus
on
making
changes
in
the
places
where
judge
Cyrus's
order
directs
us
to.
B
Thank
you
and
I
want
to
thank
my
colleagues
for
their
comments
on
this
map.
I
believe
that
it
offers
us
some
talking
points
that
are
really
important.
I
think
that
again,
there
is
no
requirement
on
where
we
start
right.
We
decide
that
as
a
body
and
we
are
and
as
a
chair
I
am
going
to
decide
how
we
best
move
forward.
I
will
say
that
I
want
to
again
echo
my
com,
my
colleagues,
who
stated
that
a
lot
of
this
will
be
about
compromise.
We
are
not
talking
about
that.
B
Many
precincts
we
can
get
to
An
Answer
and,
as
chair
I,
want
to
thank
my
colleagues
for
their
comments
on
the
map.
What
I've
gathered
is
that
this
is
not
the
best
starting
Place
point
for
us,
but
I
wanted
to
open
it
up
and
have
it
open
for
that
discussion.
The
mayor's
map
is
up
here.
B
I
am
I
am
going
to
move
forward
on
another
map
for
discussion,
because
I
want
us
to
continue
going
through
this
process,
so
I
don't
see
any
more
lights
on
this
map,
and
so
at
this
point,
I
am
going
to
turn
it
over
to
counselor
Flaherty.
If
you
would
like
to
speak
on
your
map,
I'm
going
to
get
it
up
here,.
J
J
J
J
Thank
you.
One
of
the
things
we
learned,
obviously
from
from
the
federal
court
injunction
particularly
from
the
plaintiffs,
was
that
they
wanted
Mattapan
United
in
District
Four.
In
order
to
do
that,
clearly,
there
has
to
be
some
compromise
with
primarily
District
Five
and
so
moving
some
precincts
between
four
and
five
and
even
potentially
amendable,
as
I
mentioned
from
the
onset.
This,
it's
not
a
perfect
map,
but
it
has
flexibility
potentially
if
four
and
five
can
agree
on
some
precincts
that
potentially
move
forward
in
a
Northerly
fashion
into
District
Seven.
J
So
that's
one
of
the
big
ones,
keeping
Mattapan
together
keeping
Ross
and
deal
Square
together,
keeping
Eggleston
Square
together,
keeping
the
West
End
together
so
I
sort
of
view.
This
as
how
can
I
bring
as
many
neighborhoods
together
and
as
we
referenced
early
on
in
the
very
first
process
we
had
with
the
base
map
and
looking
as
if
we
had
initially
solved
the
problem
and
then
then
a
24-48
hour
period
that
Spirit
of
cooperation
and
compromise
got
tipped
upside
down.
J
But
yet
we
took
the
boot
as
reference
in
the
court
out
of
that
district
and
was
stuffing
it
into
four.
So
so
therein
lies
sort
of
a
what
I
feel
is
a
neighborhood
Unity
map.
That
brings
a
lot
of
our
neighborhoods
together
and
I
speak
as
an
at
large
Council
of
someone.
J
That
knows
the
city
knows
the
neighborhoods
knows
the
communities
within
the
neighborhoods
and
and
enjoys
those
relationships
across
the
city,
and
one
caveat
as
I
mentioned
in
the
opening,
is
that
I
did
not
realize
that
our
colleague
from
District
Six
had
moved
I.
Believe
from
Mission
Hill
to
I
think
it's
11
10.
So
there
has
to
be
an
adjustment
on
that
front
as
well.
So
again,
if
there's
a
spirit
of
cooperation
within
four
five,
six
and
seven,
that's
obviously
a
solvable
problem.
But
therein
lies
that
we
heard
loud
and
clear.
J
South
End
didn't
want
to
have
three
Council
as
West
End
wanted
to
be
United
by
a
councilor.
Matapan
wanted
to
be
together,
particularly
around
Mattapan
Square.
Obviously,
the
Dorchester
District
councilor
and
it's
always
been
known
as
the
Dwight
Justice
seat,
keeping
that
seat
in
Dorchester
and
and
also
looking
forward
with
respect
to
District.
J
Eight
a
lot
of
folks
talk
about
the
growth
in
District
Two,
but
fail
to
recognize
that
District,
8
I
believe
gained
12
precincts
as
a
combination
of
growth
and
reprecincting,
and
so
one
of
the
things
also
the
court
noticed
was
that
while
District
2
needed
to
shed
for
some
reason,
this
body
made
a
decision.
Nine
to
four
to
have
District
Two
pick
up
some
of
that
growth
in
District
8
and
at
one
point
had
District
Two
all
the
way
up
in
the
Fenway.
J
Obviously
what
the
existing
growth
that
we
currently
have
now
in
nine
as
well
as
one
and
and
it's
always
been
known
as
the
downtown
counselor,
and
making
sure
that
the
downtown
Council
on
District
8
absorbs
the
growth
downtown.
That
didn't
happen
in
the
first
version,
that
was,
we
were
having
District
Two.
That
was
being
asked
to
shed
being
asked
to
then
pick
up
growth
and
I
think
that
stuck
out
like
a
sore
thumb
over
the
Mowgli
Courthouse
too,
it
says
well,
this
person
needs
the
shed.
J
Why
are
we
adding
when
we're
supposed
to
be
retreating?
A
similar
argument
was
made
in
three.
Well
we
this
person's
supposed
to
this.
This
District's
supposed
to
pick
up.
Why
are
we
taking
away
so
it
was
sort
of
those
pushes
and
pulls
that
sort
of
led
me
to
come
full
with
this
map
and
again
it's
based
on
my
20
plus
years
experience
as
a
city-wide
city
council
for
everyone's
edification,
no
matter
where
you
draw
the
lines
it
doesn't
matter
to
me.
J
13
members,
six
of
us
brand
new
in
their
first
term,
they're
only
two
members
that
have
actually
gone
through
a
redistricting
exercise
myself
and
councilor
Baker,
and
so
having
that
experience
having
been
in
these
situations
where
it's
not
pleasant,
we're
just
your
colleagues,
you
know
don't
want
to
give
up
some
of
their
Turf,
but
as
you
referenced,
you
know
we
don't
pick
the
vote
as
they
they
choose
us,
and
so,
with
that
in
mind,
I
felt
that
it
was
a
map
that
made
sense
and
that
brought
more
neighborhoods
together
again,
it's
not
perfect.
J
I
do
to
make
need
to
make
some
adjustments
to
accommodate
our
a
couple
of
our
colleagues,
but
in
particular
my
colleague
from
District
Six
that
so
that's
it
sort
of
a
nutshell.
I
can
go
through
every
every
bit
of
pricing.
This
one
goes
to
here
that
one
goes
to
there
be
a
little
tedious
but
happy
to
to
solicit
any
changes.
If
anyone
has
any
recommendations
as
to
moving
a
Precinct
in
and
out
of
that
map,
I'm
wide
open.
B
Thank
you,
counselor
factory
district
as
a
as
a
legislator,
but
I
have
done
it
as
a
litigator
as
an
attorney,
and
so,
while
it's
my
first
time
being
on
the
side
of
as
an
elected
I've,
worked
on
these
cases
of
racial
gerrymander
cases
before
The,
Supreme,
Court,
so
I'm
very
familiar
with
this
as
well.
B
I
know,
I'm,
not
saying
that
what
we
were
saying
was
directly
towards
me,
but
just
so
that
the
public
is
aware,
and
I
also
want
to
say
that
I
too,
am
an
at
large
city,
councilor
care
about
all
22
Awards,
but
grew
up
in
Mattapan
and
currently
live
on.
The
High
Park
matapan
line
and
I.
Just
I
have
not
heard
the
same.
Calls
for
Mattapan
unification,
I
actually
have
heard
the
opposite,
and
so
just
wanted
to
make
that
clear
for
the
record
as
well.
E
B
And
just
so
we're
clear
gonna
try
to
have
the
map
up
on
this
on
this.
B
E
E
Yeah,
so
I
just
want
to
second
what
you
just
said:
I
represent
70
of
matapan
inside
of
District
Five,
and
so
as
councilor
Flaherty
and
our
large
counselors
know.
Mattapan
precincts
are
fourteen
five
fourteen
fourteen
eight
two,
which
is
Mattapan
Square
18
3,
18,
4,
18
21,
that's
exactly
six
precincts
that
are
matapan
in
District
Five.
On
the
other
end
in
District
Four
we
have
14,
8,
17
I,
believe
that's
17,
14
and
then
18
1..
E
Those
are
three
precincts
within
District
Four,
total
population
of
matapan
is
22
617
residents
of
that
number,
15
000
682
live
within
District,
five,
six
thousand
nine
hundred
and
thirty
two
live
within
District
Four
and
so
I
I
think
that
any
kind
of
conversation
about
unification
would
have
to
happen.
The
other
way
and
I
want
to
make
clear
just
based
on
how
I
sort
of
see
the
report
that
came
back
from
the
federal
judge.
E
Essentially,
in
order
to
do
that
kind
of
unification,
we
would
have
to
sort
of
mess
with
core
retention
and
other
redistricting
principles
so
strongly
that
it
wouldn't
justify
trying
to
do
that
particular
maneuver.
What
I
would
look
for
is
to
keep
as
much
of
Mattapan
as
a
neighborhood
within
District
Five,
because
I
have
witnessed
that
they
have
a
unified
voice
and
that
they
are
able
to
exercise
that
unified,
Voice,
Within
District
Five
I,
don't
want
to
dilute
matapan's
electoral
Power
by
sort
of
splitting
them
even
further
when
70
is
within
my
district
already.
E
I'd
also
just
note
that
on
this
map,
I
think
it
sends
me
all
the
way
past
English
High,
which
is
remarkably
far
from
the
base
of
Hyde
Park,
Mattapan
and
Roslindale,
that
we
have
there.
It
sends
me
up
past
that
and
then
it
sends
me
into
West
Roxbury,
which
currently
is
exactly
one
Precinct
away
from
being
unified,
the
only
Precinct
that
has
West
Roxbury
in
it.
That
is
not
currently
within
District
Six,
which
is
where
the
rest
of
West
rockberry
is
comprised,
is
28
and
so
I
think
where
we
can
unify.
E
We
should
I
would
note
that
the
judge
made
clear
that
they
liked
some
of
the
decisions
that
we
made
when
it
came
to
1912
or
18
7.
They
noted
that
that
was
good
because
it
helped
to
unify
Rosendale
when
it
came
to
16-1.
They
know
that
that
was
good
because
it
helped
to
deal
with
the
Vietnamese
community
of
interest
that
is
in
that
area,
and
so,
when
we
are
making
these
decisions,
part
of
I
didn't
really
speak
on
the
Michelle
woo
map
or
mayor
womap
rather.
E
But
this
has
similar
issues
for
me
where
it
goes
fairly
over
Broad
and
I
would
I
would
prefer
much
more
I
think
we
have
other
maps
on
the
table
more
than
one
that
do
what
I
consider
sort
of
surgical,
precise
sort
of
moves
here,
where
we
can
make
more
compact
districts
and
also
ensure
that
the
communities
of
interest
that
are
represented
within
those
districts
are
either
enhanced
or
preserved
and
I.
Think
those
are
the
sort
of
things
that
I
would
be
looking
at.
E
So
for
me,
beyond
the
fact
that
this
has
a
Precinct
in
it,
which
clearly
would
out
like
take
one
of
our
our
colleagues
out
of
their
District
I,
think
there's
a
number
of
other
issues
with
it
that
are
similar
to
The
administration's
map
in
terms
of
the
size
of
it
and
the
time
frame
that
we
have
to
sort
of
get
this
done
and
then
from
a
district
five
perspective.
This
would
push
me
into
a
bunch
of
different
directions
and
really
sort
of
decimate
what
what
the
core
of
District
Five
has
been.
B
Thank
you,
councilor
Arroyo
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that,
regarding
the
percentages
in
the
matapan
line
in
the
comments
you've
made
regarding
Mattapan,
they're,
1414
and
1802
are
Mattapan
correct
in
District
that
are
currently
in
your
District.
So.
B
Yeah
I
understand
that
what
I'm
saying
is
that
they've
been
in
your
14
14
and
1802,
since
we
had
city
council
districts
or
historically
in
District
Four,
it
is
only
the
last
redistricting
cycle
where
those
were
part
of
your.
Your
District
Five
want
to
make
that
clear
for
the
record.
E
I
think
yeah
I
think
that
doesn't
remove
the
fact
that
they're
still
currently
have
been
there
and
have
been
there
for
a
decade
and
have
sort
of
unified
in
that
way
in
District
Five.
But
yes,
the
last
redistricting
is
when
much
of
those
changes
have
happened,
but
even
if
we
were
to
I
think
the
issue
I
have
is
the
conversation
around
unification,
it's
impossible
to
unify
all
of
that
without
drastically
changing
the
core
of
of
District
Five.
E
So,
no
matter
how
you
do
this
you're
going
to
end
up
with
a
non-unified
matapan
and
basically
what
I
am
saying
or
what
I've
maintained
is
Mattapan
has
a
very
real
voice
in
District
Five.
They
have
a
very
real
voice
in
and
how
those
elections
play.
They.
They
have
a
very
concentrated
neighborhood
interest
and
they're
able
to
exercise
it
because
so
much
of
them
are
within
District
Five
in
terms
of
Mattapan
residents.
E
Those
situations
where
they've
bonded
with
other
neighborhood
organizations,
not
even
within
Mattapan
but
stretching
into
I'm
thinking
of
folks
like
Marcia
Kim,
who
is
a
community
leader
in
High
Park,
who
has
partnered
with
many
of
those
same
organizations
for
things
that
revolve
around
District
Five,
like
our
recent
attempt
to
get
a
health
center,
there's
a
number
of
different
places
where
there
are
shared
Community
interests
in
that
neighborhood.
That
I
would
like
to
make
sure
get
preserved,
and
so
our
only
reason
I
raised.
It
was
because
I
keep
hearing
these
consumer
frames
and
I.
E
B
Thank
you,
Council
Arroyo,
yeah
I
also
just
want
to
say
that
again,
I
have
not
heard
the
same
Echoes
regarding
matapan
unification.
B
I
will
say,
though,
that
it
is
important
for
to
note
that
the
last
two
District
Four
counselors
prior
to
council
Harrell,
were
Mattapan
residents
and
so
I
believe
District
Four,
also
Mattapan
residents
feel
like
they've,
had
a
voice
in
District
Four
as
well.
Council
Flaherty.
J
Yes
to
one
of
my
colleagues
for
the
third
time
that
by
the
deadline
for
the
map,
I
wasn't
able
to
make
the
map
change
for
one
of
our
colleagues
who
was
living
in
the
district,
so
I
obviously
apologize
for
that,
but
that'll
be
adjusted.
But
then
we
heard
from
our
colleague
from
from
District
5
as
to
what
he's
not
willing
to
do.
But
I
didn't
hear
anything
what
he
would
be
willing
to
do
on
this
map.
So.
E
B
B
Actually
going
to
not
allow
this
line
of
questioning
because
I
want
to
hear
from
there,
so
my
Council
colleagues
councilor
Colette,
you
not
have
the
floor.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I
just
want
to
make
a
few
comments
on
councilor
Flaherty's
map,
so
first
just
to
remain
in
the
line
of
conversation
about
Mattapan
I'm
curious
that
that
you
haven't
heard
anything
about
Mattapan
unification,
because
I
don't
represent
Mattapan,
and
somebody
called
my
phone
yesterday
asking
me
what
my
map
was
doing
to
Mattapan
and
I
had
to
clarify
kind
of
like
what
my
intentions
were
and
why
70
of
it
in
the
map
that
I
submitted
was
keeping
it
there,
because
there
was
some
confusion
between
my
map
and
somebody
else's
map.
H
So
the
idea
that
we
are
not
like
people
from
out
of
Pentacle
in
my
office,
I,
don't
represent
Mattapan
man
of
pan
unification
was
not
included
in
the
judge's
ruling.
I
think
that
counselor
flairy
mentioned
that
something
that
the
plaintiff
said
that
they
wanted
matapan
unified
in
District
Four.
The
plaintiff
went
to
judge
Cyrus
and
made
their
case
and
judge.
Sarah's
has
handed
us
down
her
ruling
and
in
her
ruling
it
did
not
include
anything
about
matapan
unification.
H
It
was
specifically
around
about
the
lines
in
District
four
and
three
and
the
Constitutional
violation
in
the
overpopulation
of
District
2
and
the
underpopulation
of
District
three.
So
for
the
record,
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
as
well.
There
were
some
comments
made
about
elongated
districts
in
in
the
Council
of
Flaherty's
map.
District
Six
goes
from
the
denim
line,
all
the
way
to
Fenway
Park.
H
That
is
how
it
is
drawn
here
in
addition
to
that,
I
met
with
the
leaders
of
all
the
Civic
associations
in
West
Roxbury
last
night
to
talk
about
bringing
28
into
West
Roxbury,
and
they
were
very
excited
about
that
and
the
idea
that
we
can
split
up
West
Roxbury
to
remove
Bellevue
Hill,
which
is
one
of
the
neighborhoods
that
borders
the
Holy
Name
rotary
in
West,
Roxbury
I,
think
would
be
in
misalignment
with
the
redistricting
principle
of
keeping
communities
of
Interest
United.
H
In
addition
to
that,
there's
also
a
split
in
Jamaica,
Plain
I.
Think
the
the
egregious
oversight
of
drawing
me
out
of
my
own
district
has
already
been
mentioned
a
couple
of
times.
So
I
will
leave
that
on
the
floor.
I
did
not
live
in
Mission
Hill,
because
I
do
not
represent
Mission
Hill
I
lived
in
Jamaica
Plain
on
South
Huntington
Avenue,
that
is
Jamaica
Plain,
not
Mission.
Hill
I
currently
live
in
11
10.
Just
for
the
record
in
case.
H
Anybody
else
wants
to
take
a
look
at
this
map,
and
I
also
wanted
to
bring
up
that
in
terms
of
District
8.
The
judge's
ruling,
the
judge
in
her
ruling
did
not
say
that
there
was
sufficient
overpopulation
in
District
8
to
Warrant
a
constitutional
violation,
and
so
when
we're
talking
about
District
8
gaining
again,
the
judge's
ruling
did
not
mention
any
constitutional
violation
and
I.
H
Think
if
we're
going
to
stick
to
judge
Cyrus's
order
and
make
sure
that
we're
making
the
least
amount
of
changes
possible,
it
is
I,
don't
think
it's
relevant
to
the
conversation.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
Floor.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
seeing
that
this
this
map
and
the
administration's
map
is
very
similar.
I'll
just
touch
upon
a
few
points
and
and
points
of
feedback,
Council
Flaherty,
so
I
I'm,
definitely
not
in
agreement
with
moving
the
entirety
of
Mission
Hill
out
of
District
8
and
placing
them
in
in
District.
Six
I
think
that
does
a
great
disservice
to
that
community
of
Interest.
I
So
I'm
just
going
to
go
on
reference
and
say
that
I
don't
believe
that
for
compactness
sake,
that
District
Five
and
District
Six
should
be
as
lengthy
as
they
are
in
this
map.
I
know
that
that
was
referenced
by
my
colleagues
and
then
as
it
relates
to
it
to
my
district
in
particular,
I
am
enjoying
this
new
line
of
branding
from
my
from
the
good
counselor
at
large.
That
District
eight
is
the
downtown
counselor.
I
Historically
yeah
I
mean
historically
ward
3,
Precinct
6
was
in
district
one.
It
was
held
by
Sal
La
matina,
my
predecessor
and
then
took
over
by
Bill
Linehan
and
so
I
would
just
encourage
any.
You
know
in
any
conversation
moving
forward
when
it
comes
to
this
particular
Precinct
3-6.
So
this
is
the
precinct
that
encompasses
City,
Hall
and
Faneuil
Hall
that
we
consider
putting
that
either
in
District,
2
or
district
one,
and
that's
it
for
me,
chair.
G
You,
madam
chair
again,
I,
go
back
to
the
issue
about
looking
at
core
retention.
Councilor
Flaherty's
map
moves
99,
437
people
from
to
a
different
to
a
different
District,
a
core
retention
of
85.3
percent.
I.
G
Think
that
the
total
of
43
precincts
removed
in
Council
of
Flaherty's
map,
the
one
question
I
have
has
there
been
a
you
know,
a
district,
specific
functional
analysis
using
likely
electoral
outcomes
to
evaluate
these
maps
and
we
had
I'm
sure
we're
on
a
limited
timeline
but
I
think
going
back
to
I'm,
not
expecting
that
we
have
done
that.
But
when
we
read
Dr
hanley's
conclusions
in
the
in
the
dark
at
zero,
nine,
three
five.
G
She
states
that
that
an
analysis
of
voting
patterns
are
by
race
and
assessment
of
minority
voters,
opportunities
to
elect
candidates
in
recent
Boston
Municipal
elections.
He
stated
that
if
a
minority
preferred
candidates
consistently
carried
the
district,
this
District
provides
or
in
the
case
of
a
proposed
district,
is
very
likely
to
provide
minority
voters
with
the
opportunity
to
elect
their
candidates
of
choice
and
I.
G
Think
when
we
look
at
the
reapportionment
of
of
population
on
Council
of
Flaherty's
map,
the
reapportionment
of
nd5
by
voting
age
population,
the
black
population
and
D5
decreases
by
13.8
percent
and
increases
the
white
population
by
voting
age.
Population
increases
by
12.4
percent
in
in
District
5,
which
is
our
majority
black
District
in
in
Boston,
and
then
no
D5,
which
is
a
is
a
is
D5.
Sorry
I'm
getting
my
numbers,
that's
D5
and
then
D4
the
analysis
would
increase.
Cancer
flowery's
map
would
increase
the
black
population
in
D4
by
4.9
percent.
G
So
it's
already
a
predominantly
black
district
and
it's
increasing
it.
Dr
Hanley
said
in
the
current
District
4
in
district
7
provide
black
voters
with
an
opportunity
to
elect
their
candidates
of
preferred
candidates
of
choice.
District
Five
has
been
successful
in
electing
an
Hispanic
preferred
candidate,
albeit
only
because
this
candidate
garnered
some
support
from
White
voters
and,
to
a
lesser
degree,
black
voters.
A
district
specific
functional
analysis
of
the
proposed
plan
indicates
that
this
plan
would
provide
minority
voters
with
the
same
opportunity.
G
This
is
think
the
map
that
the
the
judge
sent
back
for
review
and
and
change
to
elect
the
preferred
candidate
of
their
choice.
So
basically
I'm
arguing
that
you
know
unless
there's
good
reason,
careful,
Dr
Hundley
said
careful.
Consideration
should
be
given
to
redrawing
these
opportunity.
Districts,
they're,
opportunity,
districts,
the
last
cycle
in
2012
made
districts,
five,
an
opportunity,
district
and
District.
G
Three
is
an
opportunity,
District,
so
I
think
with
regard
to
the
boundary
between
District,
Five
and
District,
Four
I
think
we've
been
the
the
folks
that
did
the
analysis
for
the
court
case.
Looked
at
it
and
said
you
know,
we
need
to
be
careful
about
reapportioning,
a
population
between
District
4
and
District
Five,
because
you're
you're
impacting
the
opportunity
at
a
district
of
District
Five
and
that's
yeah.
B
Thank
you,
Council
Braden,
counselor,
Flynn
council,
president
Flynn.
C
C
I
have
a
significant
part
of
it.
District
2
has
a
significant
part.
I
know.
Council
collateral
former
council
at
Bach
has
the
kind
of
the
causeway
Causeway
Street
area,
I,
guess
I
guess.
My
point
is:
is
I'm
willing
to
compromise
and
work
with
my
colleagues
again
it's
about
give
and
take
giving
letting
go
of
a
couple.
C
Priests
and
taking
a
couple,
presents
I
love
the
downtown
area
and
I
love
the
constituents
there,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
we
get
a
map
that
works
for
the
city
of
Boston
I'm
willing
to
compromise,
giving
away
a
couple
of
presents,
taking
a
couple
of
presents
and
I
hope.
My
colleagues
are
also
committed
to
that
same
philosophy.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank.
B
You,
council
president
Flynn
Council
Flaherty,
oh
I'm,
not
sure
Council
Florida
Council
arau,
who
had
their
mic
on
first
okay,
councilworld.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
you
know
to
your
point
as
well.
District
Four
has
always
been,
or
historically
has
been
since
1983
to
2012.
the
matapan
district,
the
last
redistricting
process,
that's
where
we
started
to
lose
14-14
and
1405,
which
I
have
heard
as
the
district
council
for
district
four
is
that
it
doesn't
create
the
identifiable
lines
and
boundaries
that
you
know
our
constituents
want
to
see
in
our
district.
But,
however,
Mike
councilor
fairly's
map
does
break
up
little
pocket
neighborhoods
in
1603
and
16
1706.
F
B
Thank
you,
councilor
Flaherty,.
J
What
20
Precinct
date
is:
Roslindale,
not
West,
Roxbury
and
I.
Also
I'm
amendable
to
my
colleague,
Council
Rel
on
1706,
1603,
1505,
1502
and
then
I
guess
through
the
Chia
to
my
colleague
from
District
Six.
Is
there
anything
in
the
map
where
you
would
be
willing
to
seed,
whether
it's
the
district,
8
or
District
Seven?
As
you
had
referenced
sort
of
up
in
the
I
guess
the
North,
West
tier
or
I,
guess
Northern
Tier?
Would
you
be
willing
to?
J
H
I'm
here
part
of
28
is
Rosendale.
Part
of
28
is
West.
Roxbury
I
hope
that
that
you
trust
in
me
enough
that
to
know
that
I
did
the
research
and
check
the
addresses
to
make
sure
the
Casey
auto
body
is
in
28.
It
is
one
of
the
neighborhoods
that
borders
the
Holy
Name
rotary,
which
is
one
of
the
most
famous
markers
in
West
Roxbury.
So
28
is
absolutely
a
part
of
West
Roxbury.
H
5
leaves
West
Roxbury
and
Rosendale
fragmented,
which
is
why
I
made
the
decision
to
move
it
into
District
Six
in
terms
of
what
I'm
willing
to
give
up
in
District
Six
when
we
began
this
process
and
now
district
6
is
still
within
the
allowable
percentage
in
terms
of
population
balance,
and
so
there
is
no
change
necessary
in
District
Six
and
there
was
also
no
change
called
for
in
district
6
from
judge
sarris's
ruling,
and
so
I
don't
see
there
to
be
any
necessary
change
in
District
6
or
in
District
8
for
that
matter.
H
At
this
point,
Thank
you,
madam
chair
Council,
Braden.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
for
the
feedback
to
my
colleagues
and
again,
all
parts
of
the
map
are
amendable,
so
look
forward
to
continue
dialogue.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
G
You,
madam
chair,
you
know
I
think
when
we
look
at
some
of
the
neighborhoods
currently
split.
They
were
drawn
this
way
in
the
specific,
with
very
specific
intentional
reasons
in
in
the
last
cycle,
due
to
objections
and
disapprovals
by
then
Mayor
Menino.
G
These
these
are
all
filed
in
in
page
105
of
the
docket
one,
nine
three
six
Menino
when
vetoing
the
conscious
map
said
on
September
6
2012,
that
the
concentration
of
black
voting
age
population
and
non-white
voting
age
population
in
District
4
is
a
particular
concern
and
that's
what
led
to
matapan
and
the
D4
D5
being
drawn
the
way
it
is
in
the
present
time.
So
I
think
you
know
just
looking
at
the
history
of
why
we
landed
here
and
then
thinking
carefully
about
reapportioning
or
messing
with
those
particular
configurations
right
now.
B
Thank
you,
Council
Braden
and
seeing
all
lights
on
I.
Thank
my
Council
colleagues
for
their
discussion
on
this
map.
Thank
you.
I
believe
that
there
are
a
lot
of
moves
made
in
this
map.
I
don't
know
if
we
need
to
make
that
number
of
moves,
especially
given
our
tight
timeline
and
given
the
bodies,
strong
opinions
and
reactions
to
this
map.
I.
Don't
think
that
this
is
the
best
starting
point
for
us
to
really
do
this
work,
but
Council
Flaherty
I.
Thank
you
for
offering
this
map.
B
Thank
you
for
also
willingness
to
come
to
the
table
and
hear
your
colleagues
out
I'm
now
going
to
move
on
to
the
map
that
was
offered
by
councilada.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I.
Just
in
terms
of
my
thinking
for
this
map,
I
think
is
in
alignment
with
all
the
feedback
that
I've
been
giving
everywhere
else
is
that
we
are
looking
to
focus
the
changes
in
the
places
where
we
were
found
to
have
constitutional
violations
and
make
only
necessary
changes
in
the
places
where
we
needed
to
based
on
population
balance,
and
thankfully
that
was
only
in
one
place
with
one
Precinct.
H
There
are
changes
in
mayor
Woo's
map
to
eight
districts,
I
think
counselor
I
did
account
for
Council
of
Flaherty,
but
in
Council
Region's
map
I
think
there
are
eight
six
districts
that
are
touched
and
my
map
only
makes
changes
to
four
of
them
and
in
one
District
it
is
just
one
single
precinct
for
population
balance
in
District
Two.
H
My
thinking
was
to
be
surgical
with
the
changes
that
we
were
making
and
to
do
as
much
as
possible
to
stay
in
alignment
with
judge
Patty
Cyrus's
Cyrus's
orders,
because,
as
councilor
already
mentioned,
there
is
still
a
risk
of
this
going
to
court.
This
map
was
drawn
using
the
traditional
principles
of
redistricting,
the
Constitution
and
ensuring
that
there
was
not
any
further
violation
of
the
VRA,
as
already
mentioned
in
District
Six.
There
is
a
change
made
to
28.
H
H
Four
changes
that
were
made
and
I
think
to
councilor
Flaherty's
Point,
particularly
about
Council
Arroyo,
and
what
he
was
willing
to
give
up.
1405
is
currently
in
his
district
and
that
is
being
moved
to
District
Four,
and
so
there
is
a
Mattapan
Precinct
that
is
going
back
to
District
4
in
this
map.
The
unification
of
Little
Saigon
remains
on
16-1
and
16-3.
Adams,
Village
and
Cedar
Grove
are
also
unified
in
District
3
councilor
Baker
I
think
that
councilor
Baker
had
some
questions
about
13,
17,
13
and
1714
that
are
considered
to
be
Lower
Mills.
H
Now,
when
looking
at
this
map,
I
knew
that
we
could
unify
17,
13
and
17
14
as
they're
both
considered
to
be
Lower
Mills,
obviously
that
neighborhood
could
be
unified
in
either
direction.
H
The
South
Boston
neighborhood
is
now
completely
unified
in
District
Two,
and
you
can
see
that
District
3
grows
up
into
the
south
end.
I
think
the
most
notable
change
here
is
9-1
and
8-1,
which
are
Villa,
Victoria
and
Cathedral.
I
think
that
there
was
a
lot
of
conversation
about
keeping
public
housing
together.
H
There
was
a
Precinct
here
in
district,
one,
which
is
the
singular
Precinct
I
was
trying
to
avoid,
but
because
of
trying
to
ensure
population
balance,
313
needed
to
come
from
district
one,
and
that
is
the
only
reason
why
I
touched
it
in
that
direction.
My
Hope
was
to
focus
on
two
three
and
four
and
I
had
to
make
that
one
change
of
the
precinct
there,
but
I'm
happy
to
answer
questions
about
any
changes.
H
As
you
can
see,
these
are
very
minimal
changes
only
necessary
changes
very
controlled
to
control
for
a
cascading
effect
so
that
we
wouldn't
have
to
touch
other
districts
or
any
additional
districts
to
make
change.
Given
the
time
crunch
that
we're
in
right
now
in
terms
of
receiving
public
comment
and
really
getting
feedback
from
the
community
about
these
changes,
so
I'm
happy
to
hear
feedback
from
my
colleagues
about
it.
But
I
think
that
this
is
the
least
disruptive
and
makes
the
least
amount
of
changes
and
is
a
good
place
for
us
to
move
from.
Thank.
B
You
thank
you
councilada
for
this
map
opening
up
to
my
Council
colleagues.
If
they
have
any
questions
or
comments.
Counselor
council,
president
Flynn.
C
So
I
I
do
acknowledge
that
that's
an
important
recommendation
that
Council
Lara
is
making
on
the
importance
of
public
housing
in
in
District
Two
I
I
won't
focus
on
some
of
the
challenges
of
of
the
map,
but
I
I
do
think
I'd,
say
I
do
think
it's
a
map
that
has
looked
at
the
importance
of
public
housing
in
my
district
and
I
certainly
appreciate
that
in
in
Madam
Madam
Madam,
chair
I'm
not
going
to
I,
haven't
offered
a
map
and
I
don't
plan
to
offer
a
map
as
a
I.
C
Just
don't
have
the
knowledge
to
to
do
that.
In
terms
of
studying
the
entire
city
and
then
recommending
major
changes
to
another,
another
person's
District,
but
I
I
do
acknowledge
that
as
part
of
this
process.
It's
it's
about
compromise
and
no
one
wants
to
see
their
District
lose
precincts,
but
I
think
we
all
have
to
I.
Don't
want
I,
don't
want
to
lose
any
precincts,
but
I
I
have
to
unfortunately
but
I'm
willing
to
compromise
and
I
just
hope.
C
B
You
Congress
in
Flynn,
Council
Royal
thank.
E
You
I'll
keep
it
brief.
I
think
there's
several
maps
that
I
think
diverged
in
major
major
ways
and
I
think
there's
a
few
that
don't
in
the
sense
that
they
don't
create
major
disruption.
This
would
be
one
of
the
ones
in
which
I
think
doesn't
do
that.
I
think
it's
sort
of
we've
heard
a
lot
of
different
things
over
the
last
I.
E
Don't
know
how
long
it's
been
now
at
this
point,
but
a
significant
amount
of
time
about
different
neighborhoods
and
what
they
want,
what
they
don't
want,
I
think
from
the
standpoint
of
District
Five.
This
is
a
very
close
representation
to
essentially
what
I,
I
think
District
Five
should
be
or
could
be,
and
so
I
don't
want
to
get
too
much
into
what
other
people
want
for
their
District
specifically.
E
E
Think
a
map
like
this
is
within
the
spectrum
of
the
amount
of
time
we
have
to
get
something
done,
and
so
I
would
say
that's
true
of
of
maybe
two
maps,
and
this
is
one
of
those
and
so
I
just
want
to
note
that
this
this
would
be
a
starting
point
that
I
could
work
with,
or
at
least
a
map,
that
I
think
we
should
have
on
the
table,
as
we
have
conversations
about
what
the
final
map
should
look
like.
E
I
can't
speak
for
other
people's
districts,
but
I
can
certainly
speak
for
mine
on
this
one.
Thank
you
thank.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair
to
the
through
the
chance
of
the
maker.
Just
a
quick
recap:
I
know
that
you
had
gone
through
them.
I
wasn't
writing
fast
enough,
but
in
your
map,
what
what
changes
to
to
D5
to
D6,
to
D7
into
d8.
B
Sorry,
yes,
the.
H
Light
turned
on
I
didn't
know
if
you
meant
to
say
District
628
is
the
change
District
5
1405.
H
J
J
My
suggestion,
a
friendly
Amendment
would
be
we
we
sort
of
look
at
you,
know,
I,
guess
a
combination
of
I
guess:
six,
seven,
eight
sorry
District
3
District
7A
to
absorb
some
of
that.
Some
of
that
downtown
stuff.
That,
because
again,
we're
taking
the
your
map
takes
the
boot
out
of
D3,
which
was
highlighted
down
at
the
Mobley
courthouse
and,
and
it
continues
to
drive
D3
up
into
the
downtown
he's
a
Dorchester
District
City
councilor.
J
B
B
G
You,
madam
chair,
so
back
to
core
retention.
Again,
this
map
moves
53
768
people
moved
to
a
new
District,
eight
percent
of
the
population
of
the
whole
city.
We
moved
in
this
this
one,
a
core
retention
of
92,
92
percent,
so
so
District
to
District,
2
7
658
people
have
moved
into
District
Two
20
354
are
moved
into
this
to
a
new
District
three
and
eight
thousand
six
hundred
and
seventy
seven
are
moved
to
a
new
District
Four.
G
A
new
District
Five
gets
three
thousand
nine
hundred
and
fifty
four
and
then
all
down
through
a
new
District
Seven
would
get
four
thousand
five
hundred
and
forty
seven
so
I
think
you
know
this
is
a
much
more
modest
movement
of
folks
among
different
different
districts,
but
it's
still
between
a
certain
group
of
districts,
District
Two,
District,
three
industry,
four,
where,
as
everyone's
talking
about
the
places
that
had
not
too
many
too
much
population
and
an
under
population,
those
are
the
three
targeted
districts.
G
I
do
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
through
the
chair
are
we
which,
which
district
does
81
and
91
land
and
I
I
haven't
got
my
eyeglasses
with
me
today
into
District,
there's
triggering
District
three
under
there
in
District
three
yeah,
so
you
know
I
think
it's
really
the
very
first.
When
we
we
started
this
process.
Councilor
Arroyo
had
a
a
listening
session
way
back
in
April
7th
2022.
We
had
testimony
from
all
sorts
of
communities
across
the
city.
G
We
had
three
here
listening
sessions,
three
districts
per
session,
so
we
talked
to
nine
districts
and
at
the
very
right
from
the
very
outset
of
this
conversation,
there
was
a
very
strong
call
to
keep
to
keep
core
concentrations
of
Asian
Americans
and
immigrant
populations
in
District
Two,
there's
three
eight
and
five
one
as
well
as
other
racially
diverse
neighborhoods
of
six
one,
eight
one
and
nine
one
as
stress
has
been
really
really
important.
G
G
We
had
the
conversation
about
where
those
split
precincts
would
land
and
one
of
them
landed
temporarily
in
District
Seven
and
the
other
was
in
District
Two,
and
so
we
weren't
being
asked
by
the
communities
of
interest
in
the
South
End
to
try
and
keep
8191
Villa
Victoria
and
Cathedral
together
in
District
2
along
with
Chinatown,
because
it
that
community
of
Interest,
immigrant
communities,
Hispanic
and
Chinese
communities
have
been
organizing
since
way
back.
G
It
goes
the
whole
way
back
to
1983.,
they've
been
organizing,
and
while
they
were
never
at
this,
you
know
could
could
say
that
they're
they're
unlikely
to
ever
have
a
significant
number
to
be
a
majorityman,
an
opportunity
District.
Yet
nonetheless,
they
consider
they
consist
when
they
vote
together
as
a
very
significant
swing
block
vote,
and
it's
really
important
not
to
try
not
to
diminish
that
electoral
strength,
like
I
feel
that
that's
our
responsibility
to
not
diminish
the
voting.
G
G
This
is
the
one
group
that
have
consistently
came
to
nearly
every
meeting.
I
think
it's
in
the
minutes
has
been
mentioned
12
times
and
they've
been
here
and
and
been
minuted
in
12
12
meetings
over
the
course
of
this
conversation,
and
that
this
is
a
critically
important
to
try
and
keep
precinctly
at
one
and
nine
one
together
in
the
South
End
and
keep
that
that
area
in
in
District
Two
with
Chinatown.
Thank
you.
B
H
You
councilada
thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
just
wanted
to
respond
to
counselor
Flaherty
in
terms
of
what's
going
on
in
the
South
End
and
why
District
3
is
going
so
far
up
there,
and
so
there
were,
and
and
particularly
about
the
boot
right
and
so
we've
we've
been
sued.
Now
we
have
a
court
order,
and
part
of
it
was
to
ensure
that
we
kept
communities
of
Interest,
particularly
Cedar
Grove
and
Adams
Village
in
District
three.
H
That
was
very
clear,
so
in
particular
company,
particularly
about
the
boot
which
I'm
assuming
you're
you're,
is
713
to
you.
So
713
and
714
are
one
neighborhood,
so
they're
considered
to
be
Lower
Mills.
If
we
keep
1713
into
District
three,
it
splits
up
that
community
and
also
so
it
keeps
two
Community
split.
H
It
splits
up,
Lower
Mills
and
it
keeps
Ward
17,
also
split,
and
so
that
decision
was
purely
about
ensuring
that
we
were
following
the
traditional
redistricting
principles
that
were
handed
down
to
us
by
the
judge
of
maintaining
communities
of
Interest
Together
part
of
the
reason
why?
Because
I
heard
people's
call
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
as
much
of
the
of
the
south
end
as
possible
is
in
District
Two
is
that
you
777
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
unify
South,
Boston,
ultimately
right
and
so
the
way
the
analogy
that
I've
been
using
to
describe.
H
It
is
that
if
you
have
half
an
apple
and
you
have
a
quarter
of
an
apple
and
you're
trying
to
make
both
of
these
whole.
But
the
only
piece
that
you
have
is
a
half
an
apple.
If
you
give
it
to,
if
you
put
a
half
an
apple
with
the
quarter
Apple,
that
is
still
not
a
whole
Apple,
it
is,
it
is
more
complete,
but
it
is
not
fully
complete.
H
But
if
you
take
your
half
an
apple
and
you
put
it
where
you
have
the
half
an
apple,
then
you
have
a
complete
apple
and
that's
how
I've
been
thinking
about
South
Boston
in
the
south
end
is
that
we
have
an
opportunity
to
either
fully
unify
one
neighborhood
or
leave
both
neighborhoods
fractured
and
so
I
made
a
decision
to
unify
one
neighborhood
and
in
the
South
End.
The
south
end.
H
Instead
of
putting
more
of
this
outfit
in
District
2,
but
ultimately
still
leaving
the
South
End
fractured
I
think
that
to
councilor
warrell's
point
about
is:
are
you
talking
about
15
1
and
15
7.
51-15,
seven?
Okay,
so
this
is
I.
I'm
I
want
to
go
back
and
double
check,
but
I
think
that's
a
change
in
the
enacted
map
that
we've
already
voted
for,
but
I'm
going
to
double
check
just
to
make
sure
and
I
can
answer
him
later.
Thank
you,
I!
Don't
I.
B
Don't
believe
I
was
in
the
next
map
either
any
other
comments
on
this
map.
Council
Flaherty.
J
You
just
wanted
to
correct
the
record
on
something
through
you.
The
chair
to
the
former
chair
is
the
CPA
talking
points.
They
talk
about
not
having
the
opportunity
to
elect
a
candidate
of
their
choosing
and
they
also
say
that
they
don't
have
or
they're
losing
or
they're
lacking
political
power.
They
just
want
the
facts,
and
the
facts
are
that
in
2017
our
council
president
was
in
a
dead
Heat
and
the
Chinese
Community
rallied
and
helped
elect
Ed
Flynn.
As
the
district
council
from
District
Two.
J
They
also
had
an
opportunity,
via
the
CPA,
to
support
first
Asian
American
mayor
in
the
city
of
Boston.
They
chose
not
to
do
that
and
as
far
as
political
power
in
my
time
here
in
the
council,
they've
had
three
Council
presidents,
a
speaker
of
the
house,
and
they
currently
have
the
chair
away,
as
a
mean.
So
there's
not
a
dearth
of
political
power,
there's
not
a
dearth
of
having
candidates
of
of
their
choosing
where
they're
not
making
a
difference
in
the
elections.
J
Any
candidate
running
whether
they're
running
for
district
2
or
they're
running
at
lodge.
You
know
it.
Madam
chair
you
get
over
to
to
Chinatown
and
you
build
those
relationships,
so
I
just
I
just
want
to
make
sure
and
I
have
this.
There
was
testimony
the
other
day
from
the
CPA
and
they
keep
saying
that
they
don't
have
that
they
do
have
that
and
I'll
give
you
I'll
cite
you
example
after
example
after
example.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
B
Thank
you,
councilor
Flaherty
I
will
just
a
note
that,
in
the
analysis
when
you,
when
you're
talking
about
who
the
elected
is
that
actually
is
irrelevant
when
you're
talking
about
candidate
of
choice,
the
candidate
could
be
whatever
color
so
long
as
that
is
a
candidate
of
choice
of
the
group
at
hand
and
I
think
that's
an
important
distinction.
B
G
Think
construction
proves
my
point.
As
you
say
it's
not
about
the
the
it's
not
about
it's
about.
The
the
the
residents
been
able
the
voters
been
able
to
elect
a
candidate
of
their
choice
and
it's
not
about
the
it's
not
about
the
candidate.
They
ultimately
elect
so
I,
think
and
in
aggregate
the
the
organizing
that
has
been
gone
on
in
the
South
End
and
Chinatown
over
decades
to
call
us
political
power
among
Hispanic
and
Chinese
residents
in
the
South
End
and
Chinatown.
G
B
I'm
going
to
actually
stop
this
line
of
questioning
I
think
that
I
heard
your
comments
come
to
flarity
and
I
heard
Council
Braden
as
merely
restating
what
I
stated,
which
is
that
voters
are
that
we
look
at
the
voters
and
not
who
the
candidate
is.
So
it's
like.
What
are
the
voters
if
it's
a
community,
what
are
they
advocating
for
instead
of
around
the
voters
and
not
like?
B
Ultimately,
what
happened,
because
it
could
be
a
group
of
of
voters
who
are
don't
who
are
of
A
different
race
or
a
color
of
the
candidate
who
is
ultimately
elected,
but
that
could
still
be
their
candidate
of
choice.
So,
just
again
it
goes
back
to
the
voters
and
what
they
choose
and
they
could
choose
whoever.
But
are
we
empowering
voters
to
make
that
choice
so
Council
Braden?
Did
you
have
I
think
yeah.
G
I
think
I
think
we
can.
We
don't
want
to
belabor
this,
but
it's
just
really
important
that
we
recognize
that
coalitions
do
not
have
to
a
broad
Coalition
of
immigrant
working-class
families
and
people
can
can
coalesce
and
and
be
a
strong,
strong
political
force
and
I.
Think
that's
what
we
see
in
District,
Two
in
in
the
South
End
and
Chinatown
together.
Thank.
B
You
thank
you.
Councilor
Braden,
seeing
no
one's
lights
on
I
want
to
thank
Council
data
for
a
map.
I
want
to
thank
everyone
for
this
discussion,
and
we
are
now
going
to
move
on
to
my
map
here
and.
B
B
Okay,
so
my
map
is
up
and
I
want
to
start
off
by
stating
that
my
map
is
an
offering.
It
is
a
starting
point.
I
at
first
did
not
want
to
offer
a
map,
because
I
want
us
to
come
to
a
map
as
a
body
I
want
the
city
council
to
decide
on
a
map,
but
it's
an
important
starting
point
and,
as
Council
Braden
stated
of
the
maps
that
are
offered,
my
map
makes
the
fewest
number
of
changes
when
compared
to
the
Baseline
map
and
when
compared
to
the
enacted
Now
enjoined
map.
B
You
cure
the
violation,
that's
on
three
and
four
and,
as
I
stated,
there's
a
domino
effect
and
for
me
you
look
at
that.
You
take
that
domino
effect
and
you
look
at
the
Baseline
map
and
you
see
where
the
changes
were
made.
I
believe
everyone
got
this
document
the
other
day.
It
says
Baseline
to
final
map,
Precinct
changes
and
that's
how
that's
what's
guy,
what
guided
this
map
and
why
there
are
so
few
changes
when
compared
to
other
Maps.
So
if
you
look
at
the
map
it,
the
first
issue
is
the
boot.
The
boot
restores.
B
My
map
restores
award
16
in
District.
3.
1713
remains
with
District
Four,
which
is
fine,
because
1713
is
Lower.
Mills
1608,
16,
11,
16
12,
we're
talking
about
the
Adams
Village
Cedar
Grove
area
and
1713
and
1714
share
some
commonalities.
Now
the
domino
effect
because
when
you
give
District
3
back
those
precincts,
District
Four,
is
at
a
deficit
of
population.
B
Now
you
look
to
the
east
to
see
what
you
did
to
District
Four
and
we
heard
testimony
very
early
on
as
Council
Braden
stated
of
16-1
and
1603
as
being
communities
of
interest
for
the
Vietnamese
community
and
keeping
those
together.
So
then
you
look
to
the
west
of
what's
happening
on
the
matapan
line
to
District
Four,
and
you
say
you
can
either
return
1912
and
1807
to
District
4..
B
That
would
be
restoring
its
original
boundaries
or
you
can
do
something
else.
That
would
make
the
district
more
compact
that
would
comply
with
what
has
historically
been
in
District
Four
since
District
Four
was
a
city
was
since
we
had
districts
in
1983,
but
for
that
10-year
Gap
that
we
have
now
seen
where,
where
18
we're,
14,
14
and
1802
were
part
of
District
Five.
B
B
But
you
give
14
14
and
1802
to
District
Four,
restoring
former
lines
and
making
that
line
a
lot
more
compact,
and
so
there
are
a
few
splint
precincts
changes
that
were
made
But.
Ultimately,
that's
my
map.
Those
are
the
few
changes
we
made
and
folks
on
one
side
say:
do
the
Baseline
map
folks,
on
the
other
side,
say,
do
the
enacted
map
my
map
does
both
by
looking
at
a
document
that
says
what
were
the
changes
that
we
made
from
Baseline
to
final?
B
How
are
we
curing
the
potential
constitutional
violation
and
then
how
are
we
dealing
with
the
domino
effect?
And
so
this
map
is
an
offering
and
I
offer
this
map
to
move
the
body
forward
as
a
starting
point
as
a
talking
point
and
as
chair
I
believe
that
this
is
the
starting
point
that
we
should
start
at
and
to
have
a
discussion
and
move
forward,
I
open
it
up
to
my
Council
colleagues
for
any
comments
or
questions.
Council
Flynn
you
and
I
have
the
floor.
C
C
But
what
I'm
not
willing
to
do
is
not
work
hard
in
in
advocate
for
Muriel
and
McCormick
public
housing
in
District,
Two
I
have
the
opportunity
in
obligation
to
ensure
residents
of
public
housing
are
united,
that
they
speak
collectively
as
one
voice
again
I'm
willing
to
compromise
I'm
I'm
willing
to
give
some
presents
and
take
some
presents.
But
I
don't
know
if,
if
my
colleagues
are
willing
to
do
that
as
well,
so
you
know
it
would
be
a
non-starter
for
me
and
again.
C
I
and
I
think
you've
put
good
a
good
faith
effort
in
this
Madam
chair.
But
it
would
be
a
non-starter
for
me
if
I
didn't
have
me
a
real
in
Mccormick
in
in
District
Two,
because
I
think
it's
important
to
unite
people
of
color
and
residents
of
public
housing
in
immigrant
Neighbors.
C
In
the
same
district
and
having
a
district
council
that
can
advocate
for
that
entire
area.
You
could
literally
walk
from
JFK
UMass
at
Mary
Ellen
McCormick
area
in
practically
practically
stay
in
the
boundaries
of
public
housing
and
almost
and
almost
walk
to
my
house
with
it
going
through
a
colony
as
well
going
through
West
9th
Street,
West
Broadway,
all
public
housing
they
so
that
that's
an
important
part
in
discussion
for
me
is
making
sure
public
housing
tenants
are
heard
during
this
during
this
discussion
and
that's
that's
what
I'm
committed
to
doing
during
this
process.
B
You,
council
president,
you
stated
your
strong
desire
to
retain
Mary
Ellen
McCormick,
but
you
also
stated
that
you
were
willing
to
compromise
and
that
there
you
would
be
willing
to.
Perhaps
your
district
is
one
of
the
large
was
one
of
the
most
populous
districts
that
needs
to
shed
population,
and
so
are
there
precincts
if
you
were
and
shouldn't
your
shouldn't,
be
adding
as
a
result
of
the
need
to
shed.
B
C
Yeah
right
there
are
precincts
Madam,
chair,
I
could
I
could
talk
to
you
about.
C
Several
precincts,
I
I,
think
the
the
area
of
three
sub,
the
the
precinct
17
and
what
in
word
free,
which
is
Beacon
Hill,
does
that
need
to
be
in
District
Two,
the
other
half
of
Saint
batav
Street
in
the
Back
Bay
this
this
other
ones,
I
I,
don't
necessarily
want
to
talk
about
which
precincts
I'm
willing
to
give
up
now
and
lose
my
ability
to
to
work
with
my
colleagues
as
it
relates
to
negotiating,
but
there
are
precincts
that
I'm
willing
to
that
I
think
don't
don't
fit
right
now
in
in
District
2,
that
I'm
willing
to
compromise
and
and
give
and
take,
but
I
just
don't
have
the
sense
that
my
colleagues
are
committed
to
that
as
well,
so
little
little
discouraging
for
me
that
I'm
I'm,
willing
to
compromise
and
and
others
don't
seem
committed
to
doing
that.
B
You
president
Flynn
Council
Lara.
H
Thank
you.
Madam
chair
I
threw
the
chair
to
president
Flynn.
H
You
shared
your
support
of
the
way
that
District
2
looked
in
the
map
that
I
supported
with
that,
because
7-7
is
included
in
my
map
and
it
does
unify
South
Boston,
it
does
say.
Take
some
other
precincts.
Is
that
a
configuration
that
you're
willing
to
move
to.
C
C
I'm
willing
to
come
to
the
table
and
talk
to
my
colleagues
about
what
are
some
of
the
precincts
that
might
not
fit,
including
as
I
highlighted,
maybe
maybe
Beacon
Hill,
maybe
maybe
some
some
of
the
areas
in
and
around
the
downtown
area.
C
Maybe
maybe
maybe
some
of
the
South
End
but
but
I'm
I'm
saying
that
knowing
that
that
also
is
not
a
that
might
not
be
a
possibility
in,
and
it's
a
little
unfair
to
me
to
for
me
to
have
to
say
which
precincts
I'm
giving
up
and
no
one
else
wants
to
come
to
the
table
and
say
what
precincts
they
want
to
give
up
and
and
I'm
willing
to
do
that.
Because
I
want
to
see
a
map.
C
I
want
to
do
what's
best
in
the
best
in
for
the
residents
of
the
city,
but
I
think
it's
also
important
for
other
colleagues
to
say
what
they're
willing
to
give
up
and
if
they're
not
willing
to
give
up
anything.
They
should
also
say
that
as
well,
but
there's
there's
probably
a
half
dozen
precincts.
That
might
make
sense
for
me
for
that.
C
That
might
not
be
be
the
best
to
be
in
detail,
but
you
know
I
I,
highly
I
highlighted
two
or
three
of
them,
but
I
don't
want
to
keep
highlighting
things
when,
when
all
of
my,
when
a
lot
of
my
other
colleagues
remain
silent
and
and
don't
bring
anything
to
the
table
in
terms
of
what
they're
willing
to
give
up
so
this
this
has
to
be
a
two-way
street.
It's
not
just
councilor
Flynn
giving
up
and
everyone
else.
Everyone
else
stays
silent.
So
thank.
B
H
B
G
You,
madam
chair
I,
think
there
on
the
horns
of
the
Dilemma
are
the
fact
that
District
2
has
13
and
a
half
thousand
too
many
people
and
the
contiguous
districts
that
we'll
be
able
to
pick
up
population
from
District
Two
are
pretty
packed,
except
for
district
3..
So
we
had
we.
When
we
looked
at
the
the
Baseline
map
and
we
thought
well,
okay,
we've
got
we
have
to
reapportion
population
here.
Where
can
we
put
it?
We
looked
at
the
map
and
we
looked
at
district.
G
One
district
one
was
able
to
pick
up
a
Precinct
or
two
District.
A
could
pick
up.
A
Precinct
District
Seven
could
pick
up
a
few
precincts
districts.
District
3
had
a
deficit
of
like
six
and
a
half
thousand
population.
So
that's
where
the
population
went
and
District
4
had
had
a
lower
population
as
well.
So
we
had,
we
were
very
limited
and
I
looked
at
I'm
from
District
nine.
We
have
one
Precinct
boundary,
contiguously,
we're
barely
contiguous
with
the
rest
of
the
city
of
Boston.
G
We
won
one
Precinct
21
two
and
they
looked
at
at
saying:
okay
on
paper
with
the
last
census,
our
our
population,
also
in
brightness
about
74
000..
There
is
a
documented
under
kind,
but
we're
not
allowed
to
consider
that
74
000
I
says
okay.
What
can
we
do?
Can
we
pick
up
a
Precinct
and
help
out
here?
We
move
21-2
into
it,
and
our
population
jumped
over
80
000
instantly,
so
I
think
there's
a
huge
problem
with
with
the
need
to
do
some
significant
rep
precincting
across
the
city.
G
It's
sort
of
like
we're
working
with
huge
building
blocks
here
that
make
it
almost
impossible
to
to
do
this
in
a
in
a
reasonable
way.
That's
not
very
stressful
for
everyone,
but
I
I
also
feel
that
the
the
growth
in
in
District,
2
and-
and
you
know,
are
we're
not
allowed
to
consider
future
growth
or
present
development.
G
That's
going
on
in
in
in
our
neighborhoods,
but
given
the
census
of
2020,
District
2
has
to
shed
13
and
a
half
thousand
people
and
there's
very
few
places
to
go,
and
then
we
also
have
to
take
that's
the
equal
population.
That's
we
have
to
equalize
the
population,
we
have
to
try
and
have
protection
of
our
minority
voting
groups.
We
have
to
have
contigua,
contigua,
I
can
never
say
security.
G
All
sorts
of
different
reasons
can,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
heard
from
our
experts
in
the
in
the
conversations
during
a
conversation
about
redistricting
was
it.
This
is
a
long
process.
If
you
we
had
very
limited
time
in
the
fall,
if
you,
if
we
were
to
start
over
again,
we
would
start
doing
mapping
and
thinking
about
all
the
communities
of
Interest
across
the
whole
city.
But
we
did.
G
We
didn't
have
time,
and
so
therefore,
you
know
hindsight
is
always
2020.,
so
I
think
it's
I
know
it's
difficult
and
counselor
Flynn
keeps
saying
that
he
wants
everybody
else
to
sacrifice,
but
actually,
in
reality,
there's
very
few
of
our
districts
that
can
pick
up
another
Precinct
and
and
will
also
bound
to
try
and
Preserve
communities
of
interest
and
and
the
minority
majority
minority
majority
never
mind.
You
know
what
I
mean
the
communities
of
color
in
their
districts.
We
cannot
decrease
communities
the
voting
blocks
of
communities
of
color.
G
We
have
to
take
those
into
con
into
consideration.
It's
not
the
primary
concern.
The
most
important
factor
as
far
as
I'm
concerned
is
the
whole
equaling.
The
population
and
I.
Think
it's
it's
a
big
challenge,
because
District
2
is
so
much
overpopulation
and
I
think
that's
all
I
have
to
say
for
now.
Oh
and
a
little
bit
of
the
we've
been
doing
some,
let's
see
Louisiana
the
corn
location.
You!
G
No!
That's
not
your
map!
That's
philacades
map!
Your
your
map,
docket
91942,
consolidations,
are
offering
as
a
as
a
for
consideration,
relocated,
37,
865
people
that
was
5.6
percent,
a
core
retention
of
94.4,
so
you're,
very,
very
high
level
of
core
retention,
so
you've
moved
actually
relocated
very
few
people
in
comparison
to
the
other
Maps
and.
B
C
Floor,
thank
you
and
one
one
fact:
I
I
failed
to
mention
during
this
debate
over
the
last
over
the
last
three
well
three
years
ago,
I
I
did
a
ton
of
work
in
terms
of
working
with
with
mayor
Walsh's
team
on
the
federal
census.
C
I
probably
have
held
more
sign
ups
working
with
Sebastian
that
worked
for
mayor
Walsh
on
census,
related
issues
in
in
Chinatown
in
the
South
End
in
the
South
Boston.
You
know
where
I,
where
I
sign
people
up
and
I
work
with
the
Chinese
Progressive
Association
I
signed
them
up
and
we
signed
them
up
in
public
housing.
We
made
sure
people
of
color
were
counted.
We
made
sure
our
immigrant
neighbors
were
counted.
C
I
probably
have
done
more
on
census
than
than
anybody
on
the
city,
council
and
I
don't
mean
that
as
a
as
a
negative
comment
towards
anyone,
but
I
knew
how
important
this
subject
was,
and
I
was
willing
to
at
least
hold
15
census.
Related
events
in
my
district
to
make
sure
people
of
color
in
immigrants
and
public
housing
residents
were
were
part
of
the
census
and
I.
C
Think
my
colleagues
that
were
here
at
the
time
would
acknowledge
that
so
I've
been
involved
in
this
debate,
a
long
period
of
time
and
I
have
produced
to
make
sure
that
residents
living
in
public
housing
people
of
color
in
in
in
BHA
residents
that
their
voices
are
heard
during
this
redistricting
process,
I
think
it's
critical
that
their
voices
are
heard,
and
that
was
that's.
What
I
focused
on
and
and
I'm
I'm
going
to
continue
doing
that
to
make
sure
residents
of
public
housing
and
our
immigrant
neighbors
their
voices
are
heard
during
this
process.
Thank
you.
C
But
again
it's
it's.
It's
give
and
take,
and
no
one
wants
to
give
up
a
Precinct
and
no
one
wants
to
take
a
Precinct.
Everyone
wants
to
say,
don't
don't
touch
my
district
but
touch
but
go
at
District
2
we'll
go
at
District
three.
You
know
we.
We
can't
have
it
both
ways.
We
have
to
give
a
little
bit
and
take
a
little
bit.
It's
compromised!
That's
what
government
is
all
about.
That's
what
politics
is
all
about.
It's
compromise.
Thank.
B
You
councilman
Council
of
Larry
thank.
J
You
manager
and
obviously
to
Echo
those
comments.
It's
a
really
it's
about
Spirit
of
cooperation
into
that
end,
Madam
chair.
What
what
does
D5
contribute,
which
is
D6
contribute
which
is
D7
contribute
and
what
does
d8
contribute
to
your
map?
How
many
precincts
do
they
take
or
give
up.
B
So
in
my
map,
1414
and
1802
go
to
right
again
minimal
changes
on
my
map
and
I.
Looked
at
Baseline
and
enacted
1414
and
1802
go
to
District
Four
other
than
that
District
Five
isn't
touched,
District,
Six
I
believe
in
District
district.
B
Seven,
there
were
some
split
precincts
that
were
in
District
were
in
District
district
7.,
but
as
councilor
Braden
stated
a
lot
of
core
attention,
not
a
lot
of
movement,
to
make
sure
that
we
are
rectifying
the
courts
or
the
potential
constitutional
violation
and
dealing
with
the
domino
effect
while
looking
at
compactness,
which
is
why
you
have
that
D5
D4
line
looking
very
smooth
and
that
also
helps
to
make
clear
boundaries
along
the
little
Avenue
line
there.
But
yes,
minimal
changes.
Otherwise
and.
J
To
that
in
Medicare,
obviously
there's
some
parts
of
the
map
that
I,
like
there's
some
parts
that
I
don't
like
I,
think
that
folks
need
to
engage
a
little
bit
more
again
the
spirit
of
cooperation,
and
we
saw
something
very
similar
happen
when
we
did
the
base
map
first
time
around
sort
of
once.
The
special
interest
in
the
activists
got
control
of
it
and
they
got
pledges
of
support
from
folks
and
everyone
put
their
fingers
in
their
ear
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
in
this
together.
J
We
all
have
a
responsibility
to
come
to
the
table,
no
sacred
cows.
Each
district
has
to
be
willing
to
give
up
two
three
precincts
and
willing
to
take
on
two
or
three
precincts.
If
we're
going
to
bring
forth
a
map
that
makes
the
most
sense
for
Boston.
That's
just
my
two
cents,
but
again
I
do
like
some
pots,
but
I
do
have
concerns
that
we
don't
have
any
participation
from
from
several
of
the
from
several
of
these
districts
and
I.
Just
don't
think.
B
You
to
repeat
again:
this
map
is
an
offering.
It
is
a
starting
point
and
I've
been
talking
to
you
all
my
colleagues
I've
been
listening
and
and
to
public
testimony.
So
it's
a
starting
point.
It
is
not
the
ending
point
and
so
I
take
that
feedback
and
have
some
ideas
and
hope
that
we
can
get
to
those
councilada.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I.
Don't
even
know
where
to
start
a
couple
of
things
in
terms
of
the
map.
I
just
wanted
to
go
back
to
responding
to
president
Flynn
president
Flynn.
That
was
in
no
way
to
to
try
to
put
you
on
the
spot
in
terms
of
what
you
were
willing
to
give
up.
It's
just
that
we
we
only
have
three
hearings,
and
so
I
I
wanted
to
see.
If
you
had
already
brought
something
that
we
could
kind
of
like
what
direction
we
could
move
in.
H
So
there
are
a
couple
of
things
in
terms
of
how
many
precincts
and-
and
this
is
to
clarify
with
the
chair
in
the
conversation
during
this
hearing,
it
was
very
clear,
mayor.
Wu's
map
don't
feel
like
this
is
a
starting
point.
H
H
So,
given
the
feedback
that
we've
heard,
both
in
favor
of
and
in
the
changes,
I,
don't
know
that
that
is
in
alignment
with
overhearing
at
this
hearing,
so
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
counselor
Braden
shared
in
terms
of
how
many
changes
we're
seeing
counselor
luigien
you
mentioned
that
you
make
the
least
amount
of
movement
in
your
in
your
map
from
the
enacted
map.
H
You
touch
district
one,
two,
three,
four
five
and
six,
the
only
and
seven,
the
only
districts
that
you
don't
change
are
nine
and
eight,
and
so,
when
we're
talking
about
how
many
people
were
moving,
yes,
there
is
at
least
there's
less
people
than
my
map
is
moving.
But
in
reality
you
are
making
changes
to
many.
H
Like
has
already
been
said,
matapan
is
70
percent
in
District,
Five
and
I
know
that
you've
mentioned
that
you
want
smoother
lines,
but
smoother
lines
are
not
synonymous
with
compactness,
which
is
the
part
of
the
traditional
principles
of
redistricting
that
we
are
trying
to
follow.
Follow
here.
In
addition
to
making
less
changes
on
the
map,
we're
moving
less
people,
it
is
because
your
map
does
not
unify
as
many
communities.
It
does
not
unite
South
Boston,
as
my
map
does,
it
does
not
unite
West
Roxbury.
H
It
takes
three
matapan
precincts
effectively
bifurcating
matapan
and
weakening
its
power
instead
of
leaving
70
of
it
where
it
already
is.
Although
counselor
Arroyo
is
willing
to
give
up
1405
and
move
it
in
to
District,
Four
and
I
know
that
counselor
Flaherty
made
a
comment
about
you
know
we
all
have
to
make
changes.
No
sacred
cows,
the
sacred
cow,
is
the
Constitution.
H
Then,
in
my
map,
based
on
the
conversation
that
we've
had
here,
we
only
heard
two
pieces
of
feedback
on
my
map
in
terms
of
changes
that
people
would
like
to
see
and
so
I
actually
don't
think
that
this
is
an
appropriate
starting
off
point
for
this
body
and
I
will
see
my
time
on
the
council.
Arroyo
talk
thank.
B
You
Council
Lara
I
will
just
reiterate
that
this
there
is
starting
point
is
a
bit
of
a
moot
point,
because
we
can
start
from
there's
no
prohibition
on
starting
from
the
enacted
map
or
starting
from
the
Baseline
map.
You
can.
B
It's
apples
and
oranges
fewest
changes
overall
in
my
map,
even
though
it
affects
more
districts,
I
think
that
there's
no
problem
with
it
affecting
the
number
of
districts
being
affected,
increasing
overall
there's
the
least
amount
of
movement
still
I,
acknowledge
and
state
that
it
is
a
starting
point,
which
means
that
I
expect
there
to
be
changes
incorporating
parts
of
your
map
incorporating
parts
of
Flaherty's
map
incorporating
parts
of
the
mayor's
map.
It
is
a
starting
point.
I
stated
very
clearly
that
my
only
intention
in
offering
this
map
was
to
have
a
conversation.
B
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
I,
appreciate
that
these
are
starting
points
and
obviously
that
there
will
be
an
ending
point
which
may
look
and
probably
will
look
different
than
every
sort
of
configuration
we
have
here.
I
would
ask
just
because
I
think
that
both
the
Lara
map
and
the
Louis
gem
map,
probably
between
all
of
the
maps
that
are
presented,
have
the
least
amount
of
variation
between
the
two.
E
We
keep
both
of
them
sort
of
as
we
work
towards
where
we're
going
based
on
conversation,
points
that
I'm
hearing
from
other
counselors
but
I
do
want
to
touch
on
my
district
really
quickly
under
this
map
and
I'll,
just
pick
up
on
things
that
I
think
are
are
sort
of
reflective
of
what's
good
and
things
that
I
think
are
reflective.
What's
bad.
E
The
reason
why
we
took
1912
and
187
here
is
because,
in
the
previous
iteration
of
this
was
because
1912
sort
of
unifies,
High,
Park
Ave
or
the
vast
vast
vast
majority
of
Hyde
Park
Ave
into
District
Five
in
High
Park
Ave,
is
something
that
hopefully
we
have
new
announcements
coming
on
sort
of
moving
forward.
Finally,
with
some
Transit
studies
and
things
of
that
nature,
but
it
does
unify
High,
Park,
Ave
and
then
18
7
is
where
Cummins
Highway
separates
out
or
American
Legion
there
and
essentially
what
what
we
have
over.
E
There
is
sort
of
a
little
bit
of
a
there's,
a
lot
of
issues
with
speeding
with
noise
complaints
with
these
different
things
that
sort
of
arise
where
it's
right
there
on
the
border
and
it
would
unify
all
of
that
back
into
District
Five
and
so
that
those
things
made
sense
to
me
as
well
as
sort
of
bringing
more
Roslindale
back
to
the
district.
E
When
we
talk
about
taking
out
14,
14,
5
and
18-2
I
do
think
that
it
overly
dilutes
communities
of
interest
there
to
a
degree
that
I'm
not
comfortable
with,
but
there's
also
another
issue
sort
of
on.
The
same
pathway
that
we're
talking
about,
which
is
that
Blue
Hill
Ave
touches
District
Five
and
many
residents
in
District
Five,
who
would
remain
in
District
Five
even
on
this
version
of
a
map
go
through
Blue
Hill,
Ave,
Blue
Hill
lab
is
a
area
in
a
quarter.
E
That's
about
to
receive
a
lot
of
sort
of
change
in
terms
of
how
it's
being
looked
at
for
not
just
development,
but
also
in
terms
of
a
blue
hill
lab
redesign,
and
this
version
of
a
map
takes
District
5
entirely
out
of
that
conversation,
because
Mattapan
Square,
which
is
18
2,
is
removed
from
this
process
and
1414,
which
also
touches
on
Blue
Hill
Ave
is
gone
from
District
Five
in
this
process,
and
so
it
essentially
dilutes
District
5's
ability
to
have
a
another
counselor
at
the
table
when
we're
talking
about
all
those
changes
that
are
happening,
even
though
those
changes,
because
it's
such
a
major
quarter
do
deeply
impact
District,
Five
and
so
I
would
strongly
oppose.
E
Losing
matapan
Square,
which
I
think
is
the
central
part
of
District
Five
and
I
would
oppose
losing
14-14,
I.
Think
14-5.
One
of
the
reasons
why
I
agreed
to
14-5
was
because,
in
doing
so,
we
were
able
to
take
18,
7
and
1912
and
sort
of
unify
parts
of
Roslindale
that
had
not
been
unified
in
the
past
and
so
to
me.
E
There
is
an
issue
with
the
fact
that
that
essentially
removes
Blue
Hill
Ave
from
the
district
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that,
as
we
move
forward,
that's
a
very
major
Corridor,
with
very
major
Federal
money
and
city
and
state
money
coming
in
on
projects
and
how
it's
getting
designed
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
residents
of
District
Five
are
both
represented
in
that
conversation,
have
a
legitimate
seat
at
that
table
and
not
having
Blue
Hill
Ave
in
my
district
I
think
removes
our
ability
to
sort
of
legitimately
be
in
that
conversation.
E
There's
really
only
two
maps
that
I
think
are
within
the
realm
of
what
we
should
be
discussing
and
I
think
would
be
counselor
Lara's
map
in
this
map,
and
so
my
request
would
just
be
that
we
keep
those
two
maps
in
because
I
think
the
differences
and
gaps
between
these
two
are
surmountable
and
the
differences
in
gaps
between
those
are
not
quite
so
surmountable
in
the
time
frame
that
we
have
so
that
that's
it
on
that.
I
just
want
to
make
those
points
clear.
Thank.
F
E
Absolutely,
and
so
in
2012,
these
precincts
were
not
put
into
District
Five
by
accident.
What
it
did
was
allow
District
Five
to
now
be
represented
and
representative.
It
always
had
some
aspects
of
matapan,
but
it
did
not
have
a
lot
of
Mattapan
and
so
what
essentially
adding
those
name,
those
precincts
did
was
it
allowed
the
vote
totals
or
the
communities
that
are
there
to
hold
enough
weight
that
they're
not
marginalized,
and
what
the
final
decision
or
to
select
a
candidate
of
their
choice,
they're
able
to
do
that
in
District
Five.
E
At
that
point
gives
them
a
large
amount
of
voice
in
terms
of
the
Electoral
outcomes
of
district
four,
but
in
District
Five
I
can
confirm
that
taking
three
precincts
out
of
matapam
would
essentially
make
this
a
Roslindale
High
Park
voting
seat,
even
though
matapan
is
still
there,
and
so
my
concern
when
I,
when
I
talk
about
diluting
their
their
power
or
their
their
essential
voice.
E
Is
that
when
we're
talking
about
the
ability
to
elect
someone
of
their
choosing,
they
have
a
much
more
ability
to
do
that
as
they're
currently
comprised
in
District
Five
and
it,
and
that
has
been
shown.
Then,
if
you
weaken
the
amount
of
Mattapan
precincts
that
are
in
District
Five
and
then
to
go
on
the
other
end
of
that
on
District
Four.
The
simple
edition
of
three
precincts
I,
don't
think,
creates
a
dominant
matapan
District.
E
It
is
still
a
dominant
Dorchester,
District
and
so
in
the
current
aspect,
where,
as
the
chair
has
sort
of
noted,
that
even
after
these
changes
were
made,
the
representative
in
District
4
was
from
matapan
I.
Think
that
it's
clear
that
they're
able
to
exercise
their
voice
in
the
way
that
they
would
like
to
exercise
their
voice
as
a
neighborhood
of
Interest
as
a
community
of
interest
in
District
Four
currently,
but
in
District
Five.
The
removal
of
those
precincts
would
make
a
big
difference.
E
It
also
removes
in
1414,
representative
Holmes
is
currently
resides,
and
so
it
removes
account
a
representative
who
is
currently
within
this
District,
who
has
made
clear
that
he
would
like
to
keep
Wellington
Hill
in
aspects
of
that
in
District,
Five
and
so
there's
a
number
of
sort
of
things.
E
I've
also
heard
from
Fatima,
Ali,
Salam
and
other
folks
from
Mattapan
who
have
sort
of
unified,
with
the
great
amount
of
pan
neighborhood
Council
in
these
other
areas
in
Mattapan,
they're,
very
aware
of
what
their
voice
is
and
how
and
how
able
they
are
to
exercise
it.
And
so
my
concern
is
just
when
you
start
to
take
those
precincts
out.
E
It's
not
like
they're
they're
it
they're,
not
more
unified,
essentially
they're,
just
more
split,
because
you're
now
more
at
50
50
than
70
30,
and
so
that
that's
my
concern
with
it,
and
so
I
was
okay
with
14-5,
because
I
didn't
think
that
that
was
too
much
of
a
dilution,
and
so
when,
when
we're
talking
about
this
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that
I'm
not
saying
it's
all
off
the
table.
What
I'm
saying
is:
there's
very
real
communities
of
interest
there
that
have
very
real
needs
and
very
real
realities
in
that.
E
I
know
that
when
people
talk
about
these
things,
there's
this
idea
that
it's
because
the
counselor
Who
currently
has
it
is
very
fond
of
it
or
doesn't
want
to
lose
this
Precinct
or
that
Precinct.
But
the
reality
is
that
in
2012
that
wasn't
an
accident
that
was
done
very
much
on
purpose.
The
council,
at
that
time
made
decisions
based
on
what
they
believed
was
best
for
Mattapan.
E
But
that's
that's
me
right
now
and
I
know
that
we're
we're
still
early
days
well,
we
only
have
like
three
more
hearings,
but
this
is
early
days
in
this
process
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
share
those
thoughts
on
the
floor,
while
I'm
here
and
also
to
signify
that
I,
don't
think
we're
overall
that
far
away
from
a
good
place,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
clear
on
on
what
my
hold
ups
and
Hang-Ups
are
it's
not
that
I'm
saying
nothing
can
be
touched.
E
B
Thank
you,
councilora
and
I
agree
with
you.
I
do
not
believe
we
are
that
far
apart
again,
counciloral
I,
don't
know
if
your
light
is
on
I.
If
it
is
I
am
going
to
allow
you
to
speak
because
I
think
that
that
is
the
line.
That
is
the
most
important
to
us
being
able
to
find
compromise
and
counselor
Arroyo
is
the
counselor
for
District
Five.
You
are
the
counselor
for
district
four
and
so
I'm
allowing
you
to
respond
because
I
think
this
is
where
a
lot
of
the
work
probably
is.
Thank.
F
You,
madam
chair
and
I,
believe
first
of
all,
1414
since
I
have
now
14
1405
United
1414,
with
the
rest
of
the
ward,
is
aligned
with
I
believe
the
lot
of
interest
of
the
of
the
same
population.
That's
currently
inside
of
district
four,
and
then
also
it
creates
a
lot
more
identifiable
lines,
as
you
can
see,
Norfolk
Street
is
more
united
under
you
know,
having
14,
14
and
1802
under
this
map,
oh
and
then
also
14-14.
If
you
were
supposed
to
remove
it,
you'll
see
a
hole,
and
it
creates
this.
F
This
lack
of
understanding
within
those
within
that
Wellington
Hill
good
day
alive
precinct
on
who
their
City
councilor
is
and
I've
also
heard
from.
You
know:
rep
fuka
Oakley
on
this
as
well
that
she
was
also
advocating
for
more
precincts
to
come
under
district
four,
while
we're
doing
this
redistricting
process.
However,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
what
I
do
believe
is
that
you
know
District
Four
in
its
current
state
does
not
need
to
grow
in
terms
of
population,
so
I
also
want
to
put
that
on
the
record.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
just
wanted
to
correct
for
the
record
that
there
are
three
precincts
that
we
are
losing
not
just
two
and
I
also
wanted
to
return
back
to
the
conversation
for
that
counselor
Worrell
brought.
He
was
particularly
bringing
up
I'm
sorry
I'm
toggling
between
Maps,
here
15,
1
and
15
7..
Is
that
correct,
15,
1
and
15
7.,
and
so
we
can
the
reason
why
part
of
those
changes
were.
H
H
H
No,
yes,
that
is
my
answer.
Yes,
that's
my
answer
for
Council,
okay,.
F
O
F
B
I
Thank
you
so
much
Madam,
Sharon
and
I'm
just
going
to
say
a
few
General
things,
because
I
do
have
to
go.
Unfortunately,
but
I
do
there
are
a
lot
of
compelling
things
from
this
map,
specifically
as
it
relates
to
my
district
I
have
advocated
for
putting
together
Waterfront
communities
together.
I
313
in
particular,
is
something
that
counselor
Flynn
has
has
mentioned,
and
that
was
in
his
district,
but
I
do
appreciate
the
fact
that
he's
willing
to
give
and
take
some
things
I
mean
I'm
willing
to
put
that
on
the
table
in
the
spirit
of
compromise.
If
that's
something
that
we
want
to
do.
B
I
313,
so
this
is
Harbor
Towers.
Okay.
This
is
something
that
in
your
map
is
in
my
district.
Is
you
know
if
I'm
willing
to
give
that
up
and
Council
Flynn?
You
know
we
can
work
something
out
like
I'm,
happy
to
talk
through
that
in
the
spirit
of
compromise
again
so
demonstrating
that
I
want
to
put
that
out
on
the
floor.
But
then
also,
your
point
is
very
well
taken
when
it
comes
to
the
Mary
Ellen
housing
I'm,
not
as
familiar
with
that
with
that
Ward.
I
Are
we
talking
about
Ward,
7,
Precinct,
seven,
seven,
seven,
okay,
all
right!
Wonderful,
so
I
do
think
again
to
your
point.
There
is
an
amalgamation
of
things
that
we
can
do
taking
from
your
points,
Council
Flynn
and
your
points
Council
Lara
that
I'm
I'm
open
to
but
I
was
focusing
in
on
on
those
two
as
very
compelling
arguments
and
we'll
leave
the
matapan
discussion
to
my
colleagues
who
represent
communities
further
south,
so
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
on
the
floor.
C
C
So
I
I
guess
my
I
guess
my
point
is
you
know:
I'm
willing,
I'm
willing
to
compromise,
but
it,
but
if
I'm
willing
to
compromise
in
in
the
interest
of
doing
what's
best
for
the
city,
you
know
make
recommendations
on
what
I
am
losing
and
then
I'm
hearing
my
colleagues
not
making
those
same
recommendations:
I'm,
not
gonna,
I'm,
not
gonna,
make
recommendations
or
I'm
not
going
to
compromise
and
I'll
be
stubborn.
C
If,
if
people
aren't
going
to,
you
know,
participate
in
in
offer
suggestions
that
they
that
they
want
to
give
up
or
that
they're
able
to
give
up
so
I
love
the
constituents
that
at
the
Wharf
District
it's
the
wharf.
District
Council
I
have
a
wonderful,
wonderful
relationship
with
them
in
with
the
with
the
Harbor
community
there,
but
but
I'm
just
not
going
to
go
into
a
dialogue
and
a
discussion
about
what
I'm
willing
to
compromise
on
and
what
I'm
willing
to
give
up
when
when
no
one
else
is
willing
to
give
up
anything.
C
So
you
know,
as
you
as
you're,
probably
consents
I'm
I'm
frustrated
because
I'm
coming
to
the
table
with
recommendations.
I
don't
hear
that
from
my
colleagues
thank.
D
You,
madam
chair,
most
of
these
maps
that
I'm
seeing
the
the
RL
map
the
flower
map
a
lot
of
those
are
taken:
17
13
from
District
3
that
for
Council
Coletta's
point
that
completes
the
rip
from
the
Neponset
Riverway
should
stay
in
in
District
three.
It
also
completes
Dorchester
Ave,
which
is
a
defined
boundary.
The
good
Council
from
District
Four
talked
about
confusion
with
people.
That's
why
we
have
those
boundaries
that
don't
have
that
that
Neponset
River
Ray
and
then
in
terms
of
the
the
Harbor.
D
So
that's
something
and
that's
also
part
of
the
lawsuit.
That's
part
of
the
boot
I.
Don't
think
that
we
should
be
talking
about.
Moving
that
to
be
totally
honest
with
you,
777
I
think
could
make
sense.
Well
does
make
sense
with
with
district
one,
that's
where
it
was
connected
with,
with
South,
Boston
and
and
the
that's
where
the
mokley
park
is
also.
It
could
also
make
sense
with
me
to
continue
with
transportation
district
again
dot
Ave
that
spine.
That
goes
from
our
Southern
border,
all
the
way
into
South
Station.
D
That's
a
common
theme
in
in
District
transportation
and
resiliency
I'm
along
I'm
along
the
water.
It's
very
important
to
have
one
set
of
eyes
on
certain
things
and
and
again
the
RL
map
has
us,
has
District
three
picking
up
eight
one
and
nine
one
which,
where
all
the
odds
are
started,
it
all
started
with
I
think
in
the
base
map.
Eight
one
was
was
slated
to
come
to
me
and
then
that's
where
everything
started.
We
can't
split
those
two
precincts
in
the
middle
of
the
city,
but
we
can
go.
D
If
District
3
needs
to
pick
up
6
500
people
which,
after
the
Baseline
map
I,
didn't
need,
District
3
did
not
need
to
pick
up
6
500
people
it
needed
to
pick
up
pick
up
about
1600
people,
then
why
are
we
cutting
five
precincts
out
so
again
back
to
the
point,
I
think,
seven
and
again
I'm
willing
I'm
willing
to
to
work
with
people.
I
think
I
was
willing
from
the
beginning
until
people
started
just
totally.
Shutting
me
off.
D
I
I
think
I
think
that
1713
as
a
status
should
be
in
District
three
and
and
as
a
Dorchester
District
I
want
to
I
want
Dorchester
to
be
like
we
talk
about
downtown
districts
and
District
three
should
be
a
Dorchester
based
District.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
just
want
to
Echo
I
should
have
echoed
it
at
the
beginning,
I'm
also
in
agreement
with
Council
on
councilor
Baker,
about
that
particular
section
in
Dorchester,
the
boot
that
should
that's
a
critical
part
of
of
that
district
and
that
should
stay
in
the
in
the
current
District
I'm,
also
hearing
from
Council
Baker
that
you're
willing
to
compromise
as
well
in
in
recommending
how
we
work
together,
how
we
we
all
give
and
take,
and
and
I'm
I'm
glad
about
that
I
just
I,
just
want
to
hear
that.
C
Also
that
same
attitude,
also
from
my
from
my
other
colleagues
that
they're
also
willing
to
come
to
the
table
and
and
negotiate
in
in
recommend
some
changes.
So
I,
I,
I
I,
know
the
Goodwill
that
councilor
Baker
is
coming
to
the
table
with,
but
I
also
am
encouraging
my
colleagues
to
do
the
same,
because
it's
it's
hard
to
give
up
a
Precinct
when
other
people
are
sitting
sitting
there
and
not
recommending
anything.
And
let
me
also
highlight
is
we
keep.
B
Thank
you,
council
president
Flynn
councilor
Baker.
D
Sorry
I
should
have
finished.
My
comments
reads:
I
also
want
to
speak
in
favor
of
16
1
and
16.
3
were
basically
Fields
Corner
in
St
Mark's.
Those
are
areas
that
I
had
originally
and
and
people
that
know
Fields
Corner,
probably
in
the
stretch
of
Dodd
Ave,
could
use
the
most
help,
the
most
love
the
most
support
and
and
when
I
first
got
elected.
That's
where
I
wanted
to
focus
got
taken
from
me,
so
quite
happy
about
in
in
the
district
taking
on
16
1-3.
D
That
also
completes
that
Transportation
spying,
which
is
Dorchester
Ave,
which
goes
from
our
border
in
Milton
all
the
way
into
into
South
Station.
Thank
you
thank.
B
You
councilor
Baker
Council
Braden,.
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
think
you
know
we
have
all
this
debate
about
who's
moves
where
and
what
we
have
a
done.
Some
preliminary
core
retention
analysis
across
the
your
map.
We
did
it
for
every
map
to
district
one
relocated
to
district
one
was
3554
to
District
2
2051
to
District
three,
ten
thousand
and
thirty,
two
district,
four,
eight
thousand
and
8601,
and
two
District
Five
3957
to
District
Seven
4547
and
to
District
8
5
125..
So
that's
a
total
of
reapportionment
or
relocating
37
865..
G
So
you
have
spread
like
it's.
It's
not
inaccurate
to
say
that
that
this
there's
many,
the
all
many
districts
have
been
impacted.
Actually,
that's.
Seven
out
of
the
nine
districts
have
have
received
population
in
this
process,
even
District
Two,
which
is
overpopulated
we've
we've
you,
madam
chair,
have
relocated
these
that
that
population
to
new
districts
there's
an
also
in
terms
of
we
did
some
very
quick
shift
in
the
analysis
of
the
demographic
composition
of
the
districts.
G
You
know
you're
your
your
map
actually
indeed
D4
black
voting
age
population
increases
in
District
four
by
four
point:
seven
percent
black
voting
age
population
and
D5.
The
black
voting
age
population
decreases
by
3.9
and
D5.
The
the
voting
age
population
increases
is
by
2.7.
We
have
we
have
all
of
this.
It's
it's
preliminary
unofficial,
core
retention
data
Etc,
but
we'd
be
happy
to
put
it
into
the
file
it
and
have
it.
In
the
record
for
next
week's
conversations,
I
I
I'm
happy
to
share
these
resources.
You.
B
B
G
You
councilada.
H
I'm
sure
I
would
just
like
to
extend
the
request
of
if
counselor
Braden
is
willing
to
also
do
it.
For
my
map,
as.
B
G
In
terms
of
the
demographic
composition
of
the
districts
D3,
the
white
voting
age
population
increases
for
District
3
increases
by
five
point
two
and
for
D3.
The
black
voting
age
populations
decreases
by
three
percent:
District
Four
encounter
Laris,
offering
district
for
the
black
folding
age,
population
increases
by
2.3
percent,
and
that's
it
D4
and
D3.
G
To
District
Six
169
and
to
District
Seven
4547,
and
to
District
a
at
5125.
that
was
a
total
relocation
of
fifty
three
thousand
seven
hundred
and
sixty
eight.
That
was
that
was
it
relocated.
That's
eight
percent
of
the
population
voting
population
and
a
core
retention
of
92
percent,
so
both
of
your
Maps
reapportion
population
among
many
districts,
councilor
lares
map
reapportions
population
to
every
District,
apart
from
District
nine,
which,
as
I
explained
earlier.
If
we
move,
if
we
move
one
Precinct
into
District
nine,
our
population
jumps
over
80
000..
G
So
that's
it
and
I'm
happy
to
share
this
data.
Yes,
please.
H
G
H
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Okay
heard
from
no
lights
on
heard
from
about
all
of
my
city
council
colleagues,
about
your
concerns.
We
looked
at
Maps
heard
from
public
testimony,
so
I
want
us
to
actually
start
doing
some
work
here,
incorporating
comments
that
we've
heard
from
every
counselor,
from
councilor
Baker
to
councilor
Flynn,
to
councilada
to
councilor,
Worrell
and
counselor.
B
Looking
at
what
we
can
do
so
here's
my
map,
I,
don't
know
if
everyone
has
the
district
R
from
my
map
up
I
mean
my
District
Council
colleagues,
because
it
might
be
easier
to
see,
but
we
will
be
making
the
changes
to
this
map.
So
you
will,
if
you
want
to
come
up
and
take
a
look
if
you
want
to
pull
it
up
and
make
the
changes
on
your
map
my
map
here.
B
B
Was
just
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
pull
it
up,
yep
they've
all
been
emailed
out.
So
if
we
start
with
8191,
for
example,
can
we
make
this
okay,
so
8191
in
my
map
and
in
all
of
the
maps
that
were
offered
stayed
in
District
three,
but
we
have
heard
incredible
advocacy
on
the
communities
of
interest
in
District
Two.
B
Thank
you,
okay,
and
we
have
also
heard
and,
as
was
reflected
in
councilada's
map
from
counselor
Flynn,
about
the
importance
of
Mary
Ellen
McCormick
in
his
district.
And
so
can
we
put
seven
seven
into
District
2.
B
Great
okay:
let's
go
down.
B
This
is
an
exercise
and
so
at
some
point,
I
will
continue
going
down
to
District
three.
B
E
Remember
it
was
a
while
ago
so
I,
don't
remember
the
exact
details
on
this,
but
I
remember
that
there
was
a
difference
between
what
district
ours
populations
were
and
what
ezri's
populations
were
and
I
think
we
I
think
everybody
agreed.
Ezra's
was
probably
more
accurate
and
so
I
think
the
final
population
and
deviation
totals
were
taken
off
of
esri
I
can't
remember,
but
I'm
pretty
sure,
that's
true.
So.
E
Okay,
so
I
guess
what
I
would
say
is
then.
Obviously
this
is
just
us
trying
to
do
something
right
here
in
the
chambers,
because
esri
I
remember
being
much
harder
to
operate
than
districtar,
but
basically
we
are
going
to
run
these
things
through
esri
as
well.
Is
that
okay,
perfect?
That's
all
I
wanted
to
make
sure
thank.
B
You
actually
Emily.
Can
you
go
up
back
to
District
the
district
2
District
3
line
just
to
try
to
see
what
we
can
do
so?
What
if
we
3
15
2d3.
B
Not
that
okay,
we're
still
dealing
with
a
district
2
population
issue,
but
we'll
we
can
resolve
that
later.
B
B
We
have
16
1
and
16
3
that
remain
in
District.
We
have
16
1
and
16
3
that
remain
in
District
3,
which
we
heard
a
lot
about
as
communities
of
Interest,
let's
with
District
Four
in
this
map,
19,
like
just
me,
confirm
1912
in
1807.
B
All
right
there,
okay
for
population.
B
Let's
restore
that
to
four
yeah
and
I
know
that
this
is
this
is
where
I
understand
that
this
is
where
a
lot
of
it
is,
but
for
population's
sake.
Okay
with
District
and
that's.
B
One
two:
three,
four:
five:
okay,
five
needs
population.
Let's
give
eighteen
two
to
five.
Also
I
want
to
clarify
for
the
record.
Matapan
Square
was
stated
as
being
an
18-2,
but
I
imagine
square
is
an
18-4.
Is
it
correct
from
our
my
district
counselors?
Thank
you.
Council
Arroyo
Madison
Square
is
in
18-4
yeah.
B
Yes,
okay,
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
for
the
record,
because
I
have
gotten
calls
from
constituents
to
confirm
and
I've
told
them
that
Mattapan
Square
is
in
184,
so
I
should
have
addressed
that
early
I
apologize,
but
for
the
record
it's
making
four
yeah
eight
eighteen
three:
should
we
think
we
should
be
in
yeah,
okay,
great.
B
If
you
can
go
to
the
left,
the
border
of
five
and
six.
B
Heard
from
both
of
the
counselors
in
District
Five
and
in
District
Six
regarding
28.
So
what
would
it
look
like
if
we
put
28
is
that
28
back
into
yeah,
putting
28
into
D6.
B
Oh
21.
H
B
H
I
have
not
received
any
of
that.
That
advocacy
21
is
the
Longwood
area
neighborhood
in
Roslindale
and
councilor
Arroyo
and
I
work
with
them.
Collectively
we
go
to
meetings
with
them
together.
H
I
am
unsure
at
what
the
breakdown
of
Rosendale
is
in
this
map,
but
in
my
map,
Roslindale
goes
from
being
in
three
districts
to
being
only
in
two,
and
that
includes
so
it
makes
it
makes
Roslindale
whole
it
splits
it
up
between
District,
five
and
six,
but
I'm
not
sure
I
can
look
at
the
breakdowns
and
get
and
get
back
to
you
in
terms
of
where
Rosendale
is
on
this
map.
Okay,
thank
you.
Council.
E
You
live
on
in
sort
of
you
know
the
difference
between
like
whether
you
hit
that
Mattapan
Roslindale
line
Mattapan
High
Park
line
in
that
instance,
but
on
these
ones,
there's
a
there's,
a
Roslindale,
Jamaica
Plain
and
then
there's
a
Roslindale
sort
of
Mattapan
with
some
Mattapan
elements
on
the
back
end
and
on
that
side
it's
Roslindale
with
West
Roxbury
on
the
back
end,
and
so
one
of
the
things
I
would
just
note
is
that
judge
sarris's
opinion
did
sort
of
no
two
changes
that
she
liked
to
some
extent,
which
was
18,
7
and
1912
coming
into
District
Five.
E
She
did
specifically
note
that
that
she
considered
those
good
moves,
whereas
she
didn't
like
what
was
what
happened
with
the
ward
16
precincts.
She
made
an
exception
for
16,
1
and
16
3,
because
they
were
communities
of
Interest.
She
made
the
same:
no
tape,
notification
for
1912
and
18
7,
and
so
what
I?
What
I'm?
Just
the
point
of
all
of
that
is,
if
we
can,
the
major
factor
of
that
was
if
you
can
unify
that
seems
like
a
good
idea
essentially,
and
so,
where
21
is
already
within
the
district.
E
Six
and
where
28
is
the
only
missing
Precinct
to
unify
all
of
West
Roxbury
within
one
district
and
does
include
the
rotary
there
and
they
all
vote
at
the
E5
station,
which
is
in
District,
six
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
move
that
over
and
then
move
21
back
as
well,
where
it
was
originally.
It
also
helps
with
core
retention.
Frankly,
and
then
we
can
try
and
figure
out
some
of
the
population
differences,
but
just
for
the
arguments
of
of
unifying
what
can
be
unified.
I
know
that
21
existing
over
there.
E
E
So
I
would
say,
keep
21
in
District
Six,
which
is
not
where
it
is
in
your
map,
but
is
where
it
is
right.
Now,
on
the
on
the
maps
we
currently
were
elected
on
and
then
all
you
would
need
to
do
and
I've
heard
loud
and
clear
from
West
Roxbury
residents
about
that
rotary.
The
only
Precinct
missing
to
unify
all
of
West
Roxbury
is
28,
and
so
because
we
can
give
them
that
one
Precinct
and
unify
West
Roxbury,
which
is
what
West
Roxbury
is
asking
for.
B
E
Unification
of
Rosendale,
and
so
what
I
was
saying
is
that
would
then
create
a
problem
where
are
now
they're
all
unified,
except
for
21
and
that
wouldn't
unify
Roslindale,
because
on
the
mayor's
map
she
gave
1912
and
I
believe
no
I
believe
she
gave
187
but
took
out
1912,
but
under
under
that
map.
1812
and
1907
1912.
Sorry
in
187
are
both
half
Roslindale
or
more
Roslindale
than
not
when
it
comes
to
18-7
when
you're
talking
about
it
just
happens
to
be
the
part
of
Roslindale.
E
E
E
B
Okay,
let's
move
up
we
might
have
to
I,
also
think
that
there
may
I
wonder
if
there's
going
to
be
population
issues,
but
so
okay,
I'm
gonna,
put
21
a
pin
and
21
for
now
we've
heard
of
about.
E
Now
but
I
think
yeah
I
just
guessed.
The
the
issue
here
is
like
in
terms
of
for
me
is
that
District,
Five
and
District
Six
are
largely
population
balanced,
and
so
now
we're
we're
doing
a
lot
on
these
margins.
Where
we're
moving
a
lot
here
when
the
population
imbalance
exists
between
three
and
two
and
part
of
the
population.
Imbalance
that
we're
seeing
with
the
deviation
number
here,
which
is
so
high,
is
that
we
still
have
84
000
people
in
District
2
on
this
map.
A
C
B
Haven't
seen
yeah.
C
I
was
trying
to
follow
this
conversation
back
and
forth
in
in
trying
to
figure
out
what
what
is
happening.
Can
you
explain,
explain
the
process
of
how
we're
asking
questions
and
are?
Are
you
waiting
for
us
to
to
to
to
be
acknowledged?
You
know
I
thought
we
did
you.
C
You
highlighted
a
couple
one
thing
in
District
Two
and
then
you
went
right
over
and
just
engaged
with
Council
Arroyo
for
about
20
or
30
questions
and
I
didn't
even
get
a
chance
to
weigh
in
so
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
what
the
what
the
process
is
where
it
was.
It
was
back
and
forth
for
20,
20
questions
and
and
I
didn't
even
have
a
chance
to
weigh
in
on
my
on
my
district.
B
President
Flynn
I
apologize
I
may
have
also
not
seen
you
in
my
line
of
vision.
If
you
had
your
light
on,
but
I
was
just
going
based
off
of
what
are
the
top
concerns
that
I
have
heard
that
we
have
all,
as
a
body
have
heard,
from
public
testimony
and
from
our
colleagues
so
8191
being
together,
not
only
being
together
but
being
together
in
District
Two.
The.
C
The
the
person
that
recommended
that
I
I
think
was
Council
Braden
in
your
map,
Madam
chair,
that
was
out
of
out
of
District
2,
so
I'm,
just
trying
to
figure
out
where,
where
the
decision
making
is
is
taking
place
was,
was
Council
Braden
making
decisions
for
me
in
in
District
Two.
B
I,
don't
think
it
was
about
I
will
I
will
speak
to
this
again.
This
is
why
I
stated
that
my
map
was
a
starting
point
in
offering,
but
not
necessarily
where
we
would
end.
B
It
is
in
listening
to
communities
of
interest
that
I've
advocated,
as
councilor
Braden
stated
from
the
very
beginning,
to
be
kept
together
in
District,
Two
And,
so
that
was
highlighted
here
and
that
has
been
highlighted
and
then
from
there
going
and
making
the
changes
that
I
also
heard
about
which
is
regard
to
7-7,
putting
that
in
D2
and
then
going
reconciling
what
comes
from
Baker
said
with
713
and
putting
that
in.
C
Well,
they
Madam
said
they
that
decision.
That's
a
major
decision,
eight
one
and
nine
one
based
on
a
district
council
from
a
neighboring
from
from
a
district
that
doesn't
represent
it
did
did
anyone
anybody
ask
my
opinion
about
about
that
or
or
do
we
just
or
do
we
just
allow
a
a
fellow
District
Council
to
make
a
decision?
C
Council
Arroyo
was
talking
about
and
I'm
glad
he
I'm
glad
he's
doing
it
he's
talking
about
unifying
what
West,
Roxbury
wasn't
and
and
that's
fine
I,
don't
have
a
problem
with
that,
but
do
I
have
an
opportunity
to
to
weigh
in
on
on
my
district,
like
others
are
able
to
advocate
for
their
District,
so
I'm
a
little
I'm,
a
little
frustrated
that
other
people
are
making
decisions
on
on
my
district
without
my
input,
this
is
my
district
and
I've
I'm
elected
by
the
residents
here
and
and
I
have
District
City
councilors
that
that
are
trying
to
weigh
in
and
make
decisions
on.
B
B
C
Well,
can
you
answer
my
question
Madam
chair
on
the
input
from
Council
Braden
on
my
district
when
it
went
right
into
into
District
Two
back
into
District
2.,
but
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
what
the
decision-making
processes
do
I
weigh
in
and
and
tell
Council
well
what
what
what
his
district
is
going
to
be
I,
I,
wouldn't
even
think
of
doing
that.
B
Thank
you,
council
president
Flynn
I
would
say
that
this
decision
to
say
that
it
was
made
off
of
the
the
statements
made
by
councilor
Braden
would
be
incorrect.
Again,
we've
heard
incredible
advocacy
from
communities
about
the
desire
to
stay
together
and
the
desire
to
stay
together
in
District
Two.
B
C
Okay,
I
I,
even
yeah,
I'm
I'm
disappointed
in
the
decision
making
that
just
took
place
here
where
a
fellow
District
Council
decided
what
is
happening
in
my
district
I
wouldn't
be
I,
wouldn't
do
that
to
other
I,
wouldn't
do
that
to
other
District
councilors
I
want
to
do
that
to
council.
Well,
I
wouldn't
do
that
to
Council
of
Royal
Council
Coletta
Council
Lara
Council
Braden
Council
Fernandez
Anderson
Council
Baker,
but
why
is
it
okay
that
people
are
able
to
do
that?
To
my
district.
G
Madam
chair,
these
are
minutes
from
the
committee
on
redistricting
page
12
minutes
from
the
that
was
in
the
official
record
of
our
deliberations
in
the
fall
page
12
redistrict
your
minutes
from
Force
April,
7,
20
2022.
G
Testimony
was
heard
about
the
history
of
under
representation
of
Asian
Americans,
as
well
as
the
surging
growth
of
the
Asian
American
population
in
Boston,
keeping
together
core
concentrations
of
Asian,
Americans
and
immigrant
populations
in
three
eight
and
five
one
as
well
as
other
racially
diverse
neighborhoods.
Six
one,
eight
one
and
nine
one
was
stressed
as
important.
It
was
shared
that
courts
have
recognized
that
race,
cultural
background
and
common
language
and
common
countries
of
origin
can
be
reasons
to
keep
a
community
together.
G
Page
17
of
the
minutes,
redistricting
minutes
from
September
16
2022
counselors
asked
questions
and
discuss
various
issues,
including
the
importance
of
keeping
Chinatown
with
neighboring
South
and
precincts
page
21
of
the
minutes.
Redistricting
minutes
from
September
23
2022,
counselor
Flynn
highly
highlighted
the
potential
the
potential
Asian
population
shift
and
its
impact
on
the
residents
of
Chinatown
and
south
end
and
the
Bay
Village.
He
emphasized
that
the
Chinese
Community
would
like
to
remain
unified
in
a
district
and
have
their
voices
heard.
G
Cancer
Flaherty
expressed
concern
for
residents
of
District
2
and
District
3,
asking
about
the
residents
of
Cathedral
and
Villa
Victoria
housing
developments
as
well
as
the
Vietnamese
community
in
Phil's
corner.
He
emphasized
that
the
respective
communities
would
like
to
be
Unified
page
24
of
the
minutes,
redistricting
minutes
from
September
27
2022
council
president
Flynn
noted
there
is
a
significant
Asian
population
and
public
housing
adjacent
to
Villa
Victoria.
G
The
chair
brought
attention
to
Ward
8
precinct
1
and
Ward
9
precinct
1,
noting
they
were
currently
in
District
2,
and
that
the
question
is
whether
to
move
each
into
District,
3
and
7,
or
to
keep
them
together
in
this,
in
which
district
they
should
be
should
be
councilor.
President
Flynn
stated
that
they
would
be
both
one.
They
were
both
wonderful
communities
and
that,
if
it
were
up
to
him
he'd
love
to
keep
them
both
together,
both
those
precincts
together
in
District
Two.
G
There
was
a
general
consensus
among
counselors
that,
regardless
of
where
the
precincts
were
moved,
if
at
all,
they
should
remain
together.
Stated
that
she
would
like
them
more
demographic
data,
because
she
thinks
there's
a
significant
connection
between
the
Asian
communities
awarded
Precinct
one
and
Ward
9
Precinct,
one
page
27
of
the
minutes.
Redistricting
minutes
from
September
29
2022
residents
testified
testifying
generally
expressing
their
sentiments
as
follows.
G
That
redistricting
should
not
separate
the
South
End
from
and
from
District
Chinatown
and
District
2.,
with
your
Indulgence
Madam
chair,
I'd
like
to
continue
reading
these
minutes
into
the
record.
I'm
cancel
reading
how
much
I
mean
I'll
stand
on
I
think
the
point
I'm
trying
to
make
is
that,
contrary
to
Consular
friends,
assertion
his
voice
has
been
heard
loud
and
clear
on
this
issue.
I
am
not
we
didn't
I
did
not
make
those
decisions.
We,
as
a
body
are
not
making
those
decisions.
G
B
K
A
G
The
minutes
from
all
of
our
deliberations
and
the
entire
redistricting
process
going
back
to
April
of
7
2022
right
through
to
when
we
took
the
vote
in
November.
Okay,
thank
you.
Councilor
Murphy,.
K
In
good
faith,
though,
we're
here,
because
we
have
to
start
over
we're
not
going
back
to
minutes
or
conversations
that
we
said
and
the
judge
agreed
that
she
trusts
that
we
can
do
it,
but
we
need
to
start
fresh,
so
I've
been
reading.
Minutes
from
past
meetings
is
not
helpful
going
forward.
That's
all
I
have
to
say
for
nacho.
Thank
you.
It.
B
C
C
Are
we
going
back
to
the
old
notes
in
in
minutes
in
using
that
as
a
as
as
a
guide,
or
are
we
coming
to
this
debate
now
with
the
willingness
to
compromise
and
get
a
map
done,
as
people
have
said
that
we're
under
significant
time
crunch?
Thank
you
yeah,
and
so,
if
we're
under
a
significant
time,
France
I
I,
understand
that,
but
but
do
I
do
I.
C
Have
the
opportunity
to
weigh
in
on
my
district,
like
Council
Arroyo,
just
advocated
effectively
effectively
for
his
district
I
I
didn't
I
didn't
see
anyone
challenge
any
other
counselor.
Besides
me
on
on
this
issue
in
Council
Madam
chair
in
your
map
that
you
proposed,
that
was
eight
one
and
nine
one
was
out
of
your
map,
and-
and
you
didn't
even
you
didn't
even
you
just
placed
it
into
the
into
the
new
map
based
on
the
recommendation
from
Council
Braden.
B
Mr
President
I
apologize
that
you
feel
like
that
move
was
done
without
your
consideration,
but
it
and
it
was
not
done
at
the
consideration
of
councilor
Braden.
It
was
done
as
a
result
of
public
testimony
that
I'm
sure
we
hear
from
hearing
from
communities
of
interest
and
so
I
apologize
for
feeling
like
you
were
blindsided
by
that
move,
and
it
is
not
the
result
of
listening
to
One
District
counselor
who,
over
another.
C
And
I
was
facing
my
my
view
today
on
on
your
map.
What
you
took
out
and
based
on
what
you
took
out
I,
had
an
idea
of
what
what
I
could
recommend
putting
putting
in
that
would
would
would
follow
the
follow
the
guidelines
established
by
the
court,
but
when
you
put
when
you
automatically
put
eight
one
and
nine
one
that
that
had
a
significant
impact
on
where
my,
where
my
district,
it
is,
is
headed
it
it
limits.
It
limits
me
almost
to
nothing
to
no
decisions
in
when
I
have
no
decisions
or
very
little
decisions.
C
That
means
decision
was
made
for
me
and
I
wasn't
part
of
that.
So
placing
placing
you
know
two
two
precincts
the
three
precincts
in
in
Madam
chair.
Without
your
involvement
significantly
reduce
the
influence
I
have
in
in
working
on
an
on
District
2
issues.
I'm
I'm
surprised.
B
Thank
you,
council
president
Flynn
counselor
Baker.
You
have
the
floor.
D
K
Murphy
the
clarification
please
chair,
as
you
were,
moving
at
what
point,
because
we
are
it
wasn't
clear
to
me.
Maybe
it
was
clear
to
other
counselors
that
the
move
then
stays
or
is
it
like
shifting
continuously
at
what
point
do
we
then
say:
okay,
that
worked,
but
we're
going
to
take
out
at
what
point
do
we
say
these
ones?
K
We've
decided
are
shifting
and
I'm
going
to
stay,
because
what
I
hear
from
councilor
Flynn
is
the
that
concern
that
eight
one
and
nine
one
went
in
there
and
that
it's
going
to
stay
there,
but
is
there
a
chance
that
any
Precinct
that's
moved
today
will
continue
to
shift?
If
you
can
like
see
what,
where
we're
going
with
that?
That
would
help
thank.
B
K
D
Just
an
observation:
the
Baseline
map
has
us
much
closer
than
what
this
does
here,
because
the
problem
remains
here:
84
000
still
in
District
Two
and
to
me
it
looks
like
everybody
else
is
in
compliance
there,
but
that's
kind
of
out
of
out
of
whack
quite
a
bit,
not
sure
what
what
that
means,
but
but
I
mean
I.
I
I.
D
Think,
personally,
that
the
Baseline
map
is
what
we
should
be,
what
we
should
be
jumping
off,
because
it
was
it
was
the
closest
and
also
not
that
we
could
bring
them
back,
but
but
there
were
certain
Maps
mine
being
one
of
them
that
had
very
minimal
changes.
I
think
that
I
had
off
the
Baseline
map,
maybe
three
or
four
more
changes,
not
sure.
Now,
so
we're
not
able
to
even
talk
about
any
previous
Maps,
they
were
all
in
a
different
committee
and
basically
on
the
way
the
Buffalo
Madam
chair.
B
Think
I
think
we're
okay,
but
I.
Think
I
hear
what
you're
saying
I
am
trying
to
take
into
account
what
I've
heard
from
different
Council
colleagues
and
from
public
testimony.
D
B
B
A
B
We
will
now
be
hearing
public
testimony,
just
because
I
know
folks
have
been
here.
Attendees
have
been
here
for
a
while
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you
have
the
opportunity
to
offer
your
public
testimony.
So
first
on
the
list
is
paying
you.
Q
P
Q
Q
R
In
the
South
End,
there
are
a
lot
of
Chinese
Community
black
community
and
latinx
Community,
who
are
living
in
the
South
End,
and
many
of
of
our
communities
of
color
are
living
in
government.
Supplemental
housing.
Q
Q
Q
R
And
we
demand
that
our
city
councilors
and
our
mayor
is
going
to
keep
Chinatown
and
Southern
together,
do
not
break
up
communities
of
colors
voting
power
and
our
Collective
power.
R
Q
L
So
Miss
ju
actually
just
left
because
she's
been
sitting
for
too
long.
Her
legs
was
hurting,
but
she
did
have
a
written
statement.
We
will
read
for
her.
P
P
L
So
I
live
at
Stearns,
there's
a
10
Temple
Place
for
the
record
and
I
used
to
vote
at
the
YMCA.
So
we
got
we
precincted
since
last
year.
We
are
surprised
that
we
were
in
a
downtown
polling
location
and
also
because
of
that
you
know
there
was
lack
of
translation
at
the
polling
place.
L
After
I
became
a
citizen,
I
voted
in
every
election,
that's
also
because
I
care
about
the
rights
of
our
community
and
it's
a
really
important
way
for
a
community
to
have
a
voice
in
everything.
So,
in
this
issues
of
redistricting
I
believe
that
these
Chinatown
and
South
End
polling
locations
or
precincts
should
be
together.
3
8,
3,
12.,
314
312
is
where
I
live
and
then
five
one
five
thirteen
eight
one,
eight
two,
nine
one,
these
District
as
much
as
possible.
They
should
be
stayed
together.
L
Otherwise,
is
diffusing,
diffusing
the
power
of
Chinese
voters
and
immigrant
communities.
Thank
you.
M
M
M
L
Okay,
so
I've
been
I
vote
at
the
YMCA.
That's
my
polling
location.
Every
year,
an
election
I
go
vote
and
I
also
make
sure
about
my
neighbor
vote
and
also
make
sure
that
folks,
like
Envia,
Victoria
or
Unity,
Tower,
also
vote
to
me
in
this
redistricting.
It's
important
that
3
8
3
12
314
51
513-818-291
stay
together.
This
is
how
we
can
unite
it,
so
we
can
fight
for
our
rights.
Thank
you.
Thank.
N
L
S
S
L
L
This
is
how
we
actually
have
a
voice
for
our
community
for
as
long
as
we
had
districts,
Unity,
Tower
and
Chinatown
is
in
one
district,
and
this
two
in
in
the
two
communities
have
a
long
histories
in
fighting
for
immigrant
rights
and
working
people's
rights,
and
we
the
the
the
issues
that
the
two
Community
faces
also
very
similar.
We
cannot
separate
these
districts
in
redistricting.
L
A
T
T
R
Hi
everyone,
my
name,
is
yodelia
and
I
live
in
and
I
live
in
11,
East
Newton
and
in
the
last
decade
our
Housing
Development
initially
was
part
of
the
second
district,
the
same
as
Chinatown
and
because
of
redistricting.
It
breaks
us
up
into
another
District.
It
makes
us
feel
like
we're
abandoned
by
our
family,
like
orphans,
and
now,
if
we're
continuing
to
split
up
our
community,
our
community
is
going
to
be
like
a
broken
family
and
we
do
not
want
the
Chinese
Community
to
be
like
this.
R
So
on
the
issue
around
redistricting,
we
think
that
Chinatown
and
South
End
polling
locations
should
be
in
the
same
district,
specifically
three,
eight
three,
twelve
three
fourteen
five
one,
five,
thirteen
eight
one,
eight
two
one
nine
one
do
not
break
up
Chinese,
community
and
other
immigrant
communities
and
dilute
our
voting
power.
Thank
you,
yeah.
Thank
you.
R
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
swinky
Chan
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
Chinese
Progressive
Association
Chinatown
and
the
South
End
have
a
70-year
history
as
a
continuous
community
of
Interest,
Castle
Square,
evil
y
via
Victoria
Unity
towers
and
other
South
and
affordable
housing
developments
all
have
large
Chinese
populations.
Chinatown
and
South.
End
are
a
community
of
interests
that
share
substantial
cultural,
economic,
political
and
social
ties
and
thus
should
not
be
divided
in
any
redistricting
proposals.
R
Chinatown's
core
precincts
of
3,
8,
3,
12,
314
and
5-1
should
remain
in
the
same
district
as
South
and
affordable
housing
precincts
particularly
818291
and
513.
Boston
districts
have
combined
High
turnout
politically
connected
white
neighborhoods
with
smaller,
historically
disenfranchised
communities
and
a
pattern
that
has
disadvantaged
communities
of
color
analysis
from
the
1980s
through
the
last
decade
on
racially
polarized.
Voting
shows
that
the
Chinatown
and
South
and
vote
cohesion
simply
and
have
the
power
to
elect
a
candidate
of
their
choice
and
to
generally
increase
their
voices.
R
If
district
lines
are
drawn
to
increase
rather
than
decrease
opportunity
with
people
of
color
getting
pushed
out
of
Boston
every
day,
we
cannot
afford
to
turn
back
the
clock
on
voting
rights
in
furtherance
of
protecting
and
expanding
white
voting
power
in
2011.
During
the
last
round
of
City
redistricting,
we
collected
a
total
of
63
pages
of
petitions
that
are
signed
by
residents
to
keep
Chinatown
an
affordable
housing
precincts
of
the
south
end
in
the
same
district.
R
The
mayor
herself,
at
the
time
as
a
South
End
voter
in
2011,
signed
the
petition
in
support
of
our
demand
and
also
in
last
Fall's
redistricting
debate.
A
number
of
counselors
also
acknowledge
that
keeping
via
Victoria
Cathedral
and
other
South
and
affordable
housing
in
District
2
was
an
important
priority.
R
So
today,
we're
opposed
to
any
of
the
proposed
new
maps
as
filed
and
any
maps
that
keep
Chinatown
and
South
End
together
at
the
expense
of
other
communities
of
color.
A
revised
District
map
must
be
drawn
to
preserve
the
core,
Chinatown
and
South
End
Community
of
interest
in
corresponding
precincts
and
adjust
the
border
between
District,
3
and
4,
with
only
minor
changes
from
the
map
enacted
by
the
council
last
year.
R
Chinatown
and
South
End
activists
have
spoken
up
time
and
time
again,
and
we
urge
you
to
finally
support
the
70-year,
Civil
Rights
struggle
of
Chinatown
and
south
end
and
we're
also
resubmitting
our
full
statement
in
writing,
along
with
other
historical
documents
that
we
brought
up
in
this
statement.
Thank
you
for
your
time
today.
U
U
The
other
two
proposed
by
mayor
Wu
and
councilor
Flaherty
proposed
radical
changes
that
have
not
been
considered
before
and
would
be
anti-democratic
to
use
these
without
a
full
possibility
of
community
engagement,
which
is
not
possible.
With
this
timeline,
both
of
those
break
to
make
a
plane
into
three
separate
districts.
One
would
have
me
in
a
district
that
stretches
All
the
Way
North
to
the
long
run
medical
area.
The
other
one
would
move
me
into
a
different
District
which
stretches
All.
U
The
Way
South
through
Hyde
Park,
along
with
councilor
Lara,
so
I
urge
I
think
those
should
not
be
used
at
starting
points
and
I
appreciate
the
work.
That's
already
being
done
to
start
from
Maps
such
as
councilor
gens
and
counselor
lares
that
are
as
close
as
possible
to
the
enacted
map,
making
only
minor
surgical
changes
needed
to
satisfy
the
ruling
in
the
lawsuit.
Thank
you
thank.
V
It's
hard
to
imagine
any
reason:
Beyond
its
previous
division,
to
keep
the
West
End
separated
with
regards
to
that
Division
I
would
like
to
remind
the
counselors
again
that
the
president
of
splitting
the
West
End
is
an
artifact
of
demolition,
as
I
really
hope.
You
all
know
in
the
1950s
60s
and
70s,
the
West
End
was
systematically
targeted
by
the
city
transformed
from
a
functioning
working-class
neighborhood
into
a
blighted
space,
and
then
its
core
was
bulldozed
in
its
entirety.
V
While
seven
thousand
people
still
lived
in
the
old
west
end,
the
city
stopped
garbage
collection
in
order
to
make
the
neighborhood
look
as
though
it
was
a
failing
in
photos
that
were
attached
to
applications
for
federal
money
used
to
destroy
it.
Today,
we
are
often
told
that
the
West
End
is
too
small
to
be
listened
to.
V
That
is
in
part
because
about
a
third
of
our
population
sits
outside
of
our
core
Council
district
and
in
part,
because
slum
clearance
depopulated,
the
neighborhood
cutting
its
population
by
about
half
in
1930,
the
West
End
was
the
most
powerful
boat
voting
Block
in
Boston
because
of
the
city's
systematic
neglect.
We
are
at
risk
of
being
the
weakest
in
2030..
V
The
residents
of
the
West
End
deserve
to
be
heard,
but
we
struggle
to
balance
Outreach
and
relationships
with
multiple
City
councilors,
none
of
whom
are
accountable
to
the
full
list
of
issues
we
face
as
a
community.
Presently,
development
that
threatens
our
one
remaining
historic
district
is
not
in
the
purview
of
the
counselor
that
represents
most
of
our
population
and
upcoming
work
to
our
Branch
library
is
out
of
range
for
the
residents
of
that
historic
district.
Again,
we
are
not
talking
about
a
huge
area,
just
three
print
precincts.
V
O
O
O
O
R
Thank
you
hi.
My
name
is
I
currently
live
in
South
Coast
West,
a
part
of
513
Precinct
ever
since
I've
become
a
citizen.
I've
always
participated
in
all
of
the
elections,
and
I
also
encourage
my
neighbors
and
my
friends
to
go
vote
together,
because
we
know
that
if
we
vote
we're
really
speaking
up
and
sharing
our
voice-
and
we
don't
agree
that
we
don't
agree
to
split
up
South
Coast
West
from
Chinatown,
because
we
really
want
to
keep
our
Collective
voting
power.
R
W
My
name
is
Vanessa
snow
and
I'm,
the
policy
and
organizing
director
for
Mass
vote.
Our
organization
was
built
by
a
small
group
of
community
members
off
the
legacy
of
the
Voting
Rights
Act
Mass
vote,
along
with
many
other
organizations,
attended
many
hearings,
working
sessions
and
Community
meetings
that
went
into
creating
the
enacted
map,
which
we
still
believe
is
defensible.
W
District
5
only
became
an
opportunity
District
in
the
last
10
years,
and
it
was
only
a
few
elections
ago
that
we
were
able
to
elect
councilor
Arroyo
as
the
first
person
of
color
to
represent
our
district.
So
it
is
important
to
me
that
the
next
map
in
the
next
map
that
the
opportunity
is
maintained,
if
not
strengthened
by
having
1414,
remain
in
District
5..
W
Five,
six
and
seven
treating
this
preliminary
injunction
as
an
opportunity
for
a
fresh
start
is
disrespectful
to
the
work
of
the
counselors
and
input
that
community
members
that
informed
and
enact
that
informs
the
enacted
map.
Those
hearings
and
comments
made
last
year
still
matter,
and
so
the
changes
should
be
minimal.
W
We
also
ask
that
this
process
continue
to
be
transparent,
with
the
opportunity
of
our
communities,
to
ask
questions
and
provide
input,
not
just
in
the
council
chamber
but
meeting
with
the
residents
where
they're
at
and
I'd
like
to
thank
counselor,
Lara
and
chair
luigien
for
making
that
time
to
meet
with
residents
in
Jamaica
Plain
last
week
and
this
week
in
Mattapan
to
present
their
proposed
maps,
and
we
hope
that
the
mayor
and
the
rest
of
the
council
will
make
themselves
available
as
well.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
Vanessa.
Next
we
have
Winnie
Zhang.
N
Good
afternoon
counselors,
my
name
is
Winnie
Zhang
and
I'm.
Speaking
on
behalf
of
the
Chinese
Progressive
political
action,
the
Chinese
community
in
Chinatown
and
the
South
End
have
spent
decades
building
our
Collective
political
power
alongside
other
communities
of
color,
not
because
of
how
district
lines
have
been
drawn.
But
in
spite
of
how
they
have
been
drawn,
we
are
united
in
improving
the
lives
of
Working,
Class,
People
immigrants
and
people
of
color
to
assert
that
the
Chinese
Community
has
the
ability
to
elect
their
candidate
of
choice
at
will
as
false.
N
For
example,
in
the
2011
city
council,
race
of
chinatown's
Suzanne
Lee
versus
Southeast,
Bill
winahan,
75
percent
of
Chinatown
and
the
South
End
vote
went
to
Lee,
while
65
percent
of
the
South
Boston
vote
went
to
Linehan
the
Chinatown
candidate,
Suzanne
Lee
lost
by
only
97
votes,
causing
then
District
board
City
councilor
Charles
Yancey,
to
express
that
reconfiguring.
District
2
should
be
the
highest
redistricting
priority
of
2012,
but
without
significant
change
to
the
district.
N
We
know
that
our
communities
have
changed
over
the
years,
but
the
basic
voting
patterns
remain
the
same
in
the
2019
Mayoral
race,
70
percent
of
Chinatown
and
the
South
End
vote
voted
for
Michelle
Wu
with
29
for
Anissa
saibi
George,
but
in
Southie
a
little
under
40
went
for
Wu
and
60
for
George.
In
short,
there
is
racially
polarized
voting
in
Boston
as
we
see
in
District
2..
N
We
have
the
ability
to
elect
candidates
of
our
choice
if
district
lines
are
drawn
to
increase
opportunity,
rather
than
decrease
our
voting
power
splitting
our
communities
separating
eight
one
and
nine
one
from
District
2
further
dilutes
our
boys.
Therefore,
we
ask
the
council
to
unite
the
communities
of
interest
in
Chinatown
and
South
End
precincts,
including
3
8,
3,
12,
314,
5181
and
9-1.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
L
L
It's
just
really
about
you
know
equal
rights
in
voting
right,
some
of
the
things
that's
named
in
the
preliminary
injunction
one
person,
one
vote,
considering
community
of
Interest
right
and
actually
address
the
issue
of
underrepresented
communities.
So
all
we
are
doing
here
is
that
we're
saying
the
same
things
over
and
over
again,
in
fact,
the
Chinese
community
in
southern
saying
the
same
thing,
and
over
and
over
again
since
1983,
when
there's
when
there
was
districts
and
I
think
within
our
testimony
we
actually
submitted.
Actually,
this
is
a
petition.
L
It's
handwritten
in
Chinese
and
typed,
and
here
it's,
the
Chinese
community
in
the
South
End
Community,
were
disappointed
of
City
Council
vote,
which
actually
included
South
End
and
in
in
Chinatown
in
South
Boston
into
one
District
that
actually
dilutes
the
the
districts.
You
know
South
End
and
Chinatown
vote
and
actually
also
in
this
Council.
The
vote
was
seven
to
two
would
only
councilors.
Voting
against
this
plan
was
counseling
bowling
who's,
the
only
African-American
city
council
at
the
time,
and
also
Ray
Flynn,
former
mayor
Ray
Flynn
and
councilor
Ed
Flynn's
father.
L
So
this
is
not
a
new
issue
and
I
want
to
appreciate
Council
Breeden,
for
actually
you
know
reading
the
minute,
but
also
actually
we
minus
the
history,
and
why
that
we're
here
again
and
again,
and
while
a
position
is
that
you
know
the
format
that
we
have
seen
so
far
right
this
whole
week.
None
of
it
actually
look
into
the
interest
of
the
Chinatown
community.
So
again
within
our
the
written
testimony
that
we
provided.
We
also
have
a
petition
from
2011
saying
the
same
thing.
L
We
want
three
seven,
three,
eight
three,
seven
at
the
time
you
know
before.
If
so,
gentrify
right,
we
have
five
one,
eight
one
and
nine
one
being
in
one
district
and
actually
within
this
petition
it
also
has
signature
because
she
is
living
in
south
end
at
the
time.
So
this
is
why
we
are
here
again
again,
and
this
is
why
we're
packing
you
know
the
city
council
room.
You
know
it's
not.
Of
course
we
will
work
hard
to
organize
and
advocate
for
a
community,
but
with
districting.
L
Is
that
when
you
look
at
a
map
you
know,
do
people
have
equal
rights
and
also
we're
here,
because
the
Voting
Rights
Act
doesn't
protect
the
Chinese
Community
because
we're
not
up
to
your
number.
But
yet
we
have
interest
for
this
city
to
be
a
better
City.
We
have
interest
for
the
city
to
be
a
vibrant
City
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
heart
and
soul
of
the
city
remain,
and
that's
why
we're
here.
Thank
you.
X
Good
evening,
members
of
the
city
council,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
allowing
the
public
to
testify.
I
just
wanted
to
start
before.
I
got
in
my
testimony
by
saying
that.
I
think
that
it
would
be
helpful
when
we
do
have
hearings
if
the
public
could
testify
a
little
sooner,
because
we've
I've
been
here
for
three
hours
and
that
would
be
helpful.
X
I
just
wanted
to
just
do
a
little
bit
of
house
cleaning,
Jim
Crow
laws,
ending
reconstruction,
segregation
of
the
U.S
armed
forces,
the
Ku,
Klux,
Klan
and
gerrymandering
were
all
invented
by
the
Democrats
to
disenfranchise
minority
voters.
And
now
we
are
talking
about
taking
Mission
Hill
out
of
d8
and
attempting
to
stack
black
voters
into
D4,
which
is
exactly
why
they
passed
the
Voting
Rights
Act.
So
hopefully,
that's
not
what
we
end
up
doing
for
those
who
don't
know
gerrymandering
was
invented
right
here
in
Massachusetts
by
Governor
Albridge
Jerry
in
1812.
X
X
that
need
to
be
moved,
and
we
were
also
talking
about
District
3,
not
having
enough
voters
and
so
I'm
going
to
limit
my
testimony
just
to
the
facts.
All
we
really
need
is
about
three
thousand
to
four
thousand
voters
from
D2
to
be
moved
into.
D3
Dr
King
obviously
talked
about.
He
wanted
to
have
Protestants
and
Catholics
being
friends,
and
he
dreamed
of
a
world
where
people
are
judged
by
the
content
of
their
character
instead
of
the
basis
of
their
skin.
X
Color
I
do
believe
that
Ward,
16,
1
and
16
3
should
be
United
in
District
three,
that's
the
Little
Saigon
Vietnamese
District
I
also
believe
to
counselor
Baker's
point
that
the
parishes
should
also
be
protected,
because
I
don't
think
that
it's
right
to
discriminate
against
Catholic
people,
I
am
a
Christian
I
happen
to
be
a
Baptist,
but
I
do
rise
in
solidarity
with
my
Catholic
brothers
and
sisters.
I
wanted
to
talk
specifically
about
the
other
thing
that
was
very
alarming,
and
that
is
basically
a
simple
math
problem.
X
District
4
had
71
000
811
voters
as
far
as
the
base
map
and
District
2
had
76
706
District
3
had
69
638
and
so
quick
math
rounding
up.
If
we
added
3
000
voters
to
District
three,
that
would
just
bring
them
up
to
about
60
of
72
638
now
if
they
took
those
3
000
from
District
2
that
solves
the
problem.
X
As
far
as
the
legal
question
that
the
judge
mentions
to
counselor
Baker's
Point,
as
far
as
the
boot,
they
were
talking
about
1713
being
moved
into
District,
three
and
obviously
Madam
chair.
You
agreed
with
that
in
your
map.
I
think
that
we
do
need
to
make
sure
that
Mattapan
Square
stays
in
District
Five.
X
X
As
far
as
the
Chinese
progressives
are
concerned.
As
far
as
nine
one,
eight
one
and
seven
seven
I
think
that
that
is
a
reasonable
compromise
as
well.
What
I
am
most
concerned
about
is
that
we're
getting
off
topic,
we're
talking
about
all
these
other
districts,
and
we
really
only
need
to
focus
on
one
thing
and
I'm
going
to
end
it
with
by
saying
that
the
Celtics
who
are
playing
tonight
would
not
have
17
banners
if
they
were
all
over
the
place.
X
I'm
hoping
that
the
city
council
will
be
able
to
work
together
collectively
as
a
team
to
focus
on
what
they
are
asked
to
do,
and
that
is
specifically
pass
a
map
that
incorporates
what
the
people
are
asking
for
and
not
be
divisive
in
doing
so.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
your
leadership
and
I.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
testify
have
a
wonderful
day.
Thank.
B
I
would
like
to
for
the
moment
we
will
break
for
about
five
minutes
from
recess
and
then
we'll
be
back
in
session.
Thank
you.
So
we'll
be
back
here
at
six
right
at
six
foreign,
oh
I'm,
sorry,
we
have
a
few
Zoom
testimonies,
so
I'm
gonna
hear
those
Zoom
testimonies
before
we
go
into
a
recess.
A
B
B
Y
Oh,
thank
you
very
much.
Counselor
I
live
in
the
East.
Fenway
I've
been
very
active
as
a
council
member
as
a
board
member
on
the
Fenway
civic
association,
and
have
seen
how
important
it
is
for
the
Fenway
to
be
United
in
its
dealings
with
the
city
we
are
close
to
downtown
and
by
the
mayor's
plan
would
be
associated
with
communities
well,
South
of
downtown
that
don't
have
the
same
issues
that
we
do
and
I
think
that's
extremely
important.
We
have
worked
so
well
as
a
Fenway.
Y
Let
me
also
say,
as
the
previous
speaker
did,
that
this
is
a
public
hearing
and
all
we
really
heard
for
three
hours
were
counselors.
That's
not
a
public
hearing.
They
can
make
their
views
known
in
speeches
that
are
disseminated
and
anybody
can
listen
to
them.
Who
wants
to?
This
is
important
for
the
public
to
be
there.
The
last
time
I
spoke
before
the
city
council
before
they
got
to
public
comment.
Virtually
all
of
the
counselors
has
left
and
I
can't
see.
The
council
chairs
from
here
but
I,
wouldn't
be
surprised
at
all.
Y
If
that
was
true
and
they're,
not
even
hearing
the
public
comment,
I
asked
you
to
respect
what
we
are
doing
and
to
make
a
map
only
with
the
consent
and
input
of
those
who
are
affected
by
it.
Thank
you
very
much.
Z
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
My
name
is
Jacob
love
and
I'm.
A
Staff
attorney
at
lawyers
for
civil
rights
in
Boston
I
represent
a
coalition
of
community
groups,
including
the
NAACP
Boston
Branch
Mass
vote
Massachusetts
voter
table
Chinese
Progressive
Association,
La
collaborative
and
New
England
United
for
justice
that
seek
to
ensure
Equitable
representation
for
all
of
Boston's
voters,
especially
historically
disenfranchised
groups.
Z
As
you
may
be
aware,
that
Coalition
has
filed
a
motion
to
intervene
in
the
ongoing
federal
court
case
asking
the
court
to
allow
our
coalition
to
intervene
as
full
parties.
We
did
so
to
make
sure
that
no
one
loses
sight
of
the
important
Voting
Rights
Act
issues
at
stake
here.
That
said,
we
strongly
believe
that
if
the
council
conducts
an
open
and
transparent
process
and
listens
to
the
voices
of
affected
communities,
a
new
map
can
be
approved.
That
does
not
lead
to
further
litigation.
Z
In
that
regard,
I
want
to
emphasize
several
important
points.
First,
the
federal
court
order
and
joining
the
map
enacted
in
2022
was
quite
narrow.
The
order
identified
the
movement
of
only
a
handful
of
precincts
between
districts,
three
and
four
as
problematic
as
a
result.
In
passing,
a
new
map
that
responds
to
the
Court's
concerns
the
council
need
not
and
should
not
start
from
scratch
or
make
wholesale
changes,
especially
in
light
of
the
time
constraints.
Z
The
city
now
faces
limited
changes
from
the
2022
map,
which
strikes
the
best
balance
between
responding
to
the
court
order
and
respecting
the
extensive
process
from
2022..
Second,
transparency
is
critical.
Since
the
court
issued
its
order,
this
body
is
faced
pressure
to
pass
into
a
map
at
Breakneck
pace
which
would
severely
limit
public
participation
going
forward.
The
Democratic
Norms
of
transparency
and
openness
must
be
respected.
Third
and
most
importantly,
this
body
should
focus
on
keeping
communities
of
Interest
together
across
the
city,
not
just
on
preserving
the
neighborhoods
that
matter
to
the
plaintiffs.
Z
In
the
federal
case,
the
mayor's
proposal
does
the
latter
by
making
far-reaching
changes
that
divide
many
neighborhoods
in
the
process.
It
also
raises
both
dilution
concerns.
Such
an
approach
does
not
adhere
to
traditional
redistricting
principles
and
should
be
rejected
by
following
these
guidelines.
The
council
can
approve
a
map
expeditiously
that
is
fully
compliant
with
the
Voting
Rights
Act
and
equal
protection,
and
that
ensures
equal
voting
opportunity
for
all.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration.
B
A
A
A
B
B
B
We
are
back
in
session
I
want
to
thank
my
colleagues
for
staying
here,
although
I
wish
there
were
more
of
us
here.
I
want
to
thank
those
who
gave
public
testimony.
There
was
obviously
a
point
where
a
colleague,
the
council
president
felt
that
he
was
blindsided
by
certain
changes
and
for
the
sake
of
making
sure
that
we
were
able
to
continue
a
conversation
and
continue
dialogue
for
the
purposes
of
the
map
that
is
currently
before
us.
B
It's
just
so
we
can
have
a
conversation
with
a
full
body
at
this
time.
If
you
can
Emily
put
eight
one
and
nine
one
back
to
my
original
map
in
D3.
In
my
original
map,.
B
B
T
Y
B
B
How
do
folks
feel
it
means
the
population
deviation?
Few
changes
were
made,
we'll
have
continued
conversation
about
about
D2,
D3
yep.
We
will
send
it
out
so
that
everyone
has
access
to
it,
but
for
now
this
meets
the
population
deviation.
There's
more
conversations
to
be
had
the
full
body
is
not
here,
there's
still
public
opportunities
for
public
testimony,
but
for
now
so
that
we
can
adjourn
for
the
evening.
B
B
B
All
right,
well
I,
want
to
thank
Central
staff
and
I
want
to
thank
all
of
my
colleagues
for
being
here.
I
want
to
thank
everyone
who
came
for
public
testimony
again.
This
is
the
hardest
thing
that
a
body
will
have
to
do
and
I
believe
that
we
will
get
it
done.
Thank
you.
This
meeting
is
here
by
adjourned
foreign.