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From YouTube: Committee on Ways & Means on October 17, 2022
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Docket #1210- A hearing regarding a capital appropriation for the Josiah Quincy School
A
A
My
name
is
Rudy
Legion
good
morning.
Everyone
thank
you
for
being
here:
I'm
ruthulugan
city
counselor
at
large
I'm
standing
in
for
the
chair
of
the
Boston
city
council
committee
on
ways
of
means:
Tanya,
Financial
Anderson.
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A
The
subject
of
the
hearing
is
docket
number
1210
message
in
order
for
an
appropriation
order
in
the
amount
of
30
million
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
cover
the
cost,
designing
construction,
constructing
equipping
and
Furnishing
a
new
building
for
the
Josiah
Quincy
upper
school.
This
matter
was
sponsored
by
the
administration
was
referred
to
the
committee
on
October
5th
2022..
Today,
I
am
joined
by
my
colleagues
city
council
president
Ed
Flynn
and
District
8,
City
councilor
Kenzie
Bach
Administration
panel.
A
Here,
thank
you
for
being
with
us
here
today:
Carey
Griffin,
director
of
public
facilities
from
the
public
facilities,
Department
Carlton,
Jones
assistant,
director
of
operations,
public
facilities,
Department
Ron,
McNulty
senior
project
manager
for
Josiah
Quincy
upper
school
project.
There's
an
initials,
the
name,
that's
what
it
meant:
okay,
public
facility
in
the
public
facilities
department
and
Brian
McLaughlin
senior
project
manager
for
msba
schools,
public
facilities;
Department.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here
this
morning
and
we
are
excited
to
launch
this
is
launch
into
this
discussion.
A
B
Sure
yeah,
so
thank
you
very
much
counselors
for
hearing
us
this
morning.
My
name
is
Rowan
McNulty
I'm,
a
senior
project
manager
with
the
public
facilities
Department
and
we're
here
today
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
Jose
Quincy
upper
school,
which
is
currently
under
construction
on
Washington
Street
in
Chinatown.
The
Jose
Quincy
upper
school
project
is
a
mass
School
building
authority
project
and
we've
been
working
closely
with
our
Architects
at
hmfh
Architects
Turner
Construction,
our
seam
at
risk
in
skansky
USA
building,
who
is
our
OPM?
Our
owner's
project
manual.
B
Excuse
me
project
manager,
so
this
morning,
I
wanted
to
just
talk
quickly
about
to
give
you
an
overview
of
the
JQ
campus
talk
about
the
overview
of
the
school
itself,
the
schedule
we
have
some
progress
photos
of
the
ongoing
construction
and
then
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
budget
and
our
Ube
strategy
and
efforts.
So
if
we
could
go
to
the
next
slide,
Carrie
thanks.
B
So
this
is
an
aerial
of
Bay
Village
Chinatown
on
the
south
end
at
the
West
End
of
the
slide.
Here
is
the
existing
swing
space
for
the
Josiah
Quincy
upper
school,
which
was
renovated
in
the
summer
of
2021
to
accommodate
the
sixth
and
seventh
graders
of
the
jqu
school
that
were
previously
located
at
the
precast,
concrete
modulars
in
900,
Washington,
Street
and
so
and
then
over
on
the
east.
End
of
the
site
is
what
will
be
the
Josiah
Quincy
school
campus.
B
So
on
the
left-hand
side
of
Washington
Street
is
the
Jose
Quincy
Elementary
School,
which
has
students
from
kindergarten
up
through
fifth
grade
and
on
the
east
side
of
Washington
Street
bounded
by
Marginal
Road
and
the
Mass
Turnpike
and
Harrison
Avenue
on
the
East?
Is
the
former
side
of
the
JQ
modulars
and
the
former
side
of
the
Boston
Chinese
Evangelical
Church
next
slide.
Thank
you.
So
just
a
quick
overview
of
the
program
for
the
school
and
the
schedule.
B
So
the
Jose
Quincy
upper
school
will
house
grades
6
through
12.,
it's
being
designed
to
accommodate
650
students
for
BPS.
It
has
84
staff,
35
educational
spaces,
29
classrooms
and
as
well
as
an
auditorium
with
over
400
seats,
black
box
theater
and
a
gymnasium
and
a
cafeteria
with
approximately
250
seats.
Our
schedule
right
now
we're
about
20
a
little
over
20
percent,
complete
with
construction
as
the
school
open
for
operations
for
BPS
a
little
less
than
two
years
from
now
in
the
fall
of
2024.
B
next
slide.
Thank
you.
So
this
is
a
a
construction
camera
that
we
have
mounted
on
the
jqes
building.
Looking
East
and
you
can
see
the
Mass
Turnpike
on
the
right
hand,
side
and
the
this
is
actually
installed
just
after
demolition
started.
B
So
you
can
see
the
ongoing
demolition
which
took
place
last
fall
of
the
precast
concrete
modulars
in
the
foreground
and
in
the
background
there
over
at
Harrison
Avenue
is
the
location
of
the
former
bcec
Church,
which
is
relocated
to
Sherman
Ave
in
the
South
End
next
slide,
please,
and
so
this.
B
If
anybody
has
driven
down
the
Mass
Turnpike
lately,
you
probably
noticed
that
we've
installed
a
tower
crane
to
start
the
steel
installation
for
the
building
that
was
installed
a
little
over
a
month
ago
and
we're
up
to
level
three
right
now
with
steel
installation
and
we're
expecting
a
topping
off
of
the
last
steel
being
being
put
in
place
towards
the
end
of
December.
Of
this
year,
so
it's
a
pretty
exciting
portion
of
the
project.
You
can
see
the
building
starting
to
come
together
in
the
foreground.
B
There
you
can
see
the
radius
area
which
will
make
up
the
future
Auditorium,
which
is
shown
here
in
the
red
ring.
This
is
a
red
ring,
looking
Northeast
from
Washington
Street,
so
you
can
see
the
auditorium
in
the
foreground.
Four
levels
of
classrooms
again
grades,
six
through
twelve,
an
occupyable
roof
above
that
and
a
gymnasium
which
projects
out
over
the
sidewalk
on
Marginal
Road
next
slide.
Thank
you.
B
So,
just
about
two
years
ago,
the
city
council
appropriated
a
little
over
193
million
dollars
towards
the
cost
of
the
JQ
U.S
building
about
54
million
dollars
of
that
will
be
reimbursed
by
the
mass
School
building
authority
and
so
right
now
our
original
budget
breakdown
had
about
33
million
dollars
in
soft
costs,
13
million
dollars
in
contingency
and
about
146
million
dollars
in
construction.
Soft
costs
are
Architects
fees,
Engineers
fees,
things
like
Furniture
fixtures
and
equipment
technology,
and
our
current
budget
breakdown.
B
After
having
bought
out
approximately
80
percent
of
the
building
or
of
the
subcontractors,
I
should
say
who
are
going
to
build
the
building
is
our
construction.
Cost
is
up
at
180
million
dollars.
Stop
costs
have
been
adjusted
a
little
bit
to
account
for
escalation
and
inflation
with
regard
to
furniture,
ffne
and
technology,
and
we've
reduced
the
contingency
a
little
bit
so
so
right
now
we're
about
a
little
over
20
complete
with
construction,
and
we
are
have
a
little
over
a
30
million
dollar
shortfall
in
the
approvals
from
the
fall
of
2020..
B
It's
also
important
to
note
here
at
the
bottom
of
the
slide
that,
over
the
course
of
design
development,
six
percent
construction
documents
and
90
construction
documents,
the
project
team
Incorporated
over
36
million
dollars
in
value
engineering
into
the
building,
and
it's
our
recommendation
that
right
now
we
have
further
value
engineering
to
actually
balance
the
budget
to
the
original
approvals
would
drastically
impact
the
educational
program
for
the
school
and
potentially
impact
the
reimbursement
from
the
msba.
B
B
Anybody
who
builds
in
downtown,
Boston
or
anywhere
in
Boston
really
knows
that
whenever
you
start
digging,
there
are
always
some
surprises
underground.
This
particular
site.
It's
a
wonderful
site.
It
does
form
a
Jose
Quincy
school
campus
for
the
school,
but
one
of
the
challenges
was
that
there
were
existing
buildings
there,
and
so
we
really
had
very
limited
opportunities
to
investigate
what
was
going
on
below
a
grade
prior
to
starting
construction.
B
Additionally,
the
old
Broadway
actually
used
to
run
right
through
the
site,
and
so
every
time
we
were
digging
there,
we
found
the
old
foundations
for
the
old
buildings
that
were
on
Broadway
utility
lines
and
so
forth,
which
contributed
to
some
unforazine
costs.
So,
despite
the
value
engineering
efforts
which
we
incorporated
at
the
various
stages
of
the
design
phase,
the
team
has
received
bids
from
trade
contractors
and
non-trade
contractors
that
have
far
exceeded
our
estimates.
B
Our
de-scoping
efforts
in
partnership
with
Turner
Construction,
hmfh,
Architects
and
scansco
USA
building
have
determined
that
the
basically
the
the
cost
overage
is
due
to
a
combination
of
inflation
and
supply
chain
issues
and
it's
being
felt
really
industry-wide
throughout
the
construction
industry.
So
I
just
listed
a
couple
of
examples,
for
example
we're
seeing
roofing
materials
and
Lead
times
that
have
increased
significantly
due
to
an
increase
in
cost
of
gas.
B
So
my
last
couple
of
slides
here
I
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
also
about
our
Ube
or
underutilized
building
Enterprise
business
Enterprise
strategy
for
the
project.
So
we've
met
as
a
team
at
the
beginning
of
the
city
of
Boston,
our
OPM,
our
design
team
at
cm
to
discuss
various
strategies
to
move
forward
to
procure
subcontractor
for
the
project.
Turner
has
set
out
information
and
bid
opportunities
to
various
UB
advocates.
B
Our
pre-construction
team
contracted
known
Ube
subcontractors
and
has
encouraged
them
to
pre-qualify
and
submit
a
proposal
for
the
project
and
we've
recruited
language
into
bid
documents
to
actually
outline
the
goals
and
we've
included
a
subcontractor
commitment
plan
or
Turner
Hazard
should
say
a
subcontractor
commitment
plan
with
their
Award
of
the
various
subcontracts
to
ensure
that
the
subs
who
commit
to
a
goal
will
follow
through.
Yes,.
A
B
B
So
the
next
slide,
if
you
don't
mind-
okay,
thank
you.
So
our
UB
goal
right
now
was
a
little
over
10
percent
and
our
subcontractor
award
value
right
now
is
14.8
million
for
ube's
underutilized
business
enterprises.
We've
got
about
19
million
dollars
in
subcontracted
yet
to
be
awarded,
and
so
we
have
a
list
here
with
some
of
the
Ube
Subs
that
we've
been
able
to
enter
into
subcontracts
with
as
well.
A
Okay,
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
This
far
I'm
going
to
first
turn
it
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
city
council
president
Ed
Flynn
for
any
questions
you
may
have.
C
Thank
you,
Council
John,
for
sharing
this
important
meeting.
Thank
you,
councilor
block,
also
for
supporting
this
project
in
in
you,
Council
Louisiana,
as
well,
for
supporting
the
project.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
panel
for
the
commitment
to
the
residents
of
our
city,
our
students
across
Boston,
but
also
building
this
beautiful,
state-of-the-art
school.
That
will
really
provide
an
another
wonderful
opportunity
for
the
Youth
of
our
neighborhoods
to
learn
and
study
in
a
state-of-the-art
facility.
C
So
again
just
want
to
say
thank
you,
I
I'm,
on
board
I
support.
This
I've
been
active
on
supporting
this
and
helping
move
this
process
forward.
Maybe
just
give
us
a
little
bit
of
background
on
on
where
we
are
now
in
terms
of
the
the
design,
the
construction.
What's
what's
ongoing
I'm
on
the
site
frequently
several
several
times
a
week,
but
just
give
us
a
little
bit
of
a
background.
B
Sure
absolutely
thank
you
Council
for
your
positive
words
about
the
community.
I
could
also
just
say
having
been
working
with
VPS
in
the
GQ
Community
for
the
past
three
years.
Now
it's
an
amazing
group
of
students
and
faculty
there
that
have
been
really
privileged
to
work
with
so
right
now
our
main
activity
on
site
is
steel
installation.
B
We
started
that
a
little
over
a
month
ago
and
we
are
scheduled
to
have
a
topping
off,
hopefully
at
the
end
of
November,
or
we're
working
on
scheduling
that
I
should
say
with
the
administration.
Still
installation
will
can
be
completed
at
the
end
of
December,
followed
by
curtain
wall
and
exterior
enclosure
and
brick
and
so
forth.
B
Right
now,
some
of
the
subcontracts
that
we
still
need
to
buy
out
are
FF
e,
Furniture
fixtures
and
equipment
for
the
building,
which
is
procured
directly
by
the
city,
as
well
as
technology
I.T
technology,
which
is
also
procured
directly
with
the
city
as.
C
Well,
thank
you.
One
final
question
before
I:
send
it
ask
my
colleagues
so
that
they
can
have
an
opportunity
to
speak
as
well.
Tell
me
about
the
HVAC
system.
C
What
is
what
is
significant
about
the
HVAC
C
system,
knowing
that
the
school
will
sit
on
land?
That's
basically
right
on
top
of
the
kind
of
the
Mass
Pike,
the
highway
system,
not
too
far
from
the
salt
Station
train
the
salt
station
bus.
Certainly
we
know
we
have
a
lot
of
environmental
air
pollution
challenges
and
I
know
you
guys
have
been
working
and
addressing
that,
but
just
give
us
a
little
bit
of
background
on
on
on
What's
significant
about
this
building,
as
it
relates
to
environmental
issues.
B
B
The
actual
HVAC
system
is
called
a
displacement
air
system,
it's
something
that
was
used
at
the
Dearborn
School
several
years
ago,
and
it's
something
that
we
also
have
a
number
of
filters
within
the
building
to
be
able
to
deal
with
some
of
the
air
quality
issues
that
you
mentioned
so
I
feel
like
the
the
team.
The
design
team,
hmfh,
Architects,
GG
Engineers
have
a
tremendous
amount
of
experience
with
the
sort
of
systems,
and
it's
something
that
we've
had
in
the
Forefront
of
our
discussions
amongst
the
with
the
design
team.
C
A
Flynn
councilor.
D
Buck,
thank
you
so
much
Madam
chair
and
thank
you
all
obviously
I
remember
talking
about
this
project
with
you
last
term
in
the
last
year
and
so
glad
to
glad
that
we
are
progressing,
and
obviously
this
is
a
significant
overage,
but
I
know
that
you
know
we're
we're
all
aware
of
the
kind
of
overall
pressure
on
construction
costs,
and
this
has
been
a
kind
of
long-term
project.
I
guess
one
question
I
have
is
just.
B
D
So
this
is
not
me
seeking
to
cast
aspersions
I'm
just
curious,
whether
like
is
there
anything
in
hindsight
being
2020
that
we
could
have
done
to
compress
the
timeline
on
this
thing
at
all,
and
the
reason
I
ask
is
because
obviously
I
mean
this
is
like
a
15.65
percent
increase,
but
it's
drawn
out
over
the
course
of
two
years
and
so
I.
Just
wonder,
I
think
everyone
right
now
is
wishing
they'd
gotten
every
piece
of
Steel
in
the
ground
sooner
and
I'm
sure
we're
not
exempt
from
that.
D
B
These
types
of
overages
I
mean
what
I
one
of
the
things
that
I
would
say
is.
Is
that
the
procurement
method,
if
you
will
that
we're
using
for
the
project,
is
called
see,
I'm
at
risk
and
so
they're
not
without
getting
into
too
much
detail.
There
are
kind
of
two
different
ways
you
can
deliver
projects.
B
You
can
do
a
design
bid,
build
where
you
finish
the
design
you
bid
it
and
then
you
build
it
or
you
could
do
a
seam
at
risk
where
and
the
advantages
of
working
with
the
CM
risk
is
that
you
can
actually
start
construction
before
design
is
complete.
So
certain
portions
of
the
building
say
the
Landscaping
things
like
that.
That
may
not
necessarily
be
critical
to
star
construction.
E
So
we
looked,
the
team
did
a
great
job
with
always
keeping
on
task
with
schedule
and
with
budget
and
unfortunately,
that
the
climate
is
such
that
we're
experiencing
this
on
a
lot
of
our
projects
and.
E
D
And
can
you
tell
me
a
bit
about
this?
The
million
dollar
cost
for
diesel
Heat
this
winter,
because
where
it's
not
a
gas
building
and
National
Grid
won't
give
us
a
temp
gas
line.
How
are
we
thinking
about?
Like
again,
you
know
we
obviously
have
these
Net
Zero
commitments.
D
We
plan
to
keep
building
a
bunch
of
all
electric
schools,
and
it
also
sounds
like
we
have
to
anticipate
that
those
School
builds
continue
to
be
like
multi-year
endeavors,
where
there's
going
to
be
a
building
that
needs
Heating
in
the
winter,
so
allowing
that
winter
is
coming
and
you
need
to
you
know,
get
the
the
diesel
heat
for
this
winter
for
this
building.
When
we
think
about
going
forward,
is
there
a
more
sustainable,
less
expensive
solution?
We
could
have
for
this
with
our
other
school
buildings.
E
We're
looking
at,
we
actually
are
trying
to
negotiate
right
now
with
National
Grid
to
get
the
gas
in
the
the
from
the
street
there's
a
six-inch
main
that
runs
parallel
to
the
building,
so
we're
trying
to
and
we're
finally
back
talking
to
them.
So
hopefully
we'll
we'll
have
actually
gasp
for
the
for
the
winter.
For
the
for
heating,
the
building
because
diesel
that's
you
know,
there
would
be
significant
savings
if
we
didn't
have
to
go
with
diesel
yeah
in
terms
of
the
future,
I
mean
to
heating
a
building
like
this
I.
E
Don't
see
you
know,
electric
you
can
use
electric,
but
whether
that's
going
to
have
the
most
be
the
most
efficient
I,
don't
think
so,
not
only
that
you're
you're
sometimes
limited
for
what
you
have
for
your
power
source.
You
know
because
there's
a
lot
of
things,
especially
you
know,
towel
cream
that
are
gonna
for
that
are
consuming,
but
you
could
I
mean
you
can
use
electric,
but
right
now,
that's
not
you.
D
Know
got
it,
and,
and
can
you
just
tell
me
a
little
bit
so
on
the
contingency?
It
came
down
from
13.5
to
8.8,
but
obviously
you've
got.
You
know.
You
said
you
found
out
80
of
your
subs,
but
that's
not
an
80
decrease
in
the
contingency.
F
B
Well,
I
mean
it's
it's
a
contingency,
so
you
never
know
what
you're
gonna
deal
with
I
will
say
that
once
we're
out
of
the
ground,
there
is
certainly
less
risk
because
you're
not
dealing
with
the
unforeseen
conditions
that
we
deal
with
at
the
beginning
of
the
project,
but
there
are
also
challenges
potentially
with
supply
chain
issues
that
may
be
able
to
be
utilized
to
be
able
to
expedite
things
like
their
handling
units,
for
example,
and
we
don't
know
about
right
now,
every
seems
like
every
week
there's
something
that
we
hear
about
as
being
kind
of
a
long
lead
item
that
nobody
ever
thought
was
going
to
be,
but
so
there's
some
flexibility
there,
but
it
does,
it
does
need
to
come
down.
B
The
other
thing
to
take
into
account
is:
is
that
the
design
contingency,
of
course,
across
along
the
course
of
design
the
design
contingency
also
gets
reduced
so
that
also
gets
rolled
into
the
construction
cost
as
well.
D
Can
you
tell
me
I'm
just
curious-
and
this
is
a
bit
Carlton
and
I-
have
had
this
conversation
over
time
so
really
appreciate,
seeing
these
Ube
subcontract
values
and
and
the
fact
that
you
guys
are
clearing
that
10
targets
really
great
news
right
now.
I
wondered
because
I
I
spied
this
one
of
the
one
of
the
subcontractors
is
a
roofing
subcontractor
and
I.
D
Think
one
of
the
things
that
we've
that
we've
talked
about
is
like:
how
do
you
guys
build
a
pipeline
of
potential
subcontractors,
especially
for
those
you
know
the
accelerator
repair
program
projects
and
so
the
reason
it
caught
my
eyes
because,
as
you
know,
one
of
the
three
things
that
we
do
with
those
is
roofs
besides
also
boilers
and
windows,
and
so
I.
Just
wonder
you
know.
Could
you
speak
at
all
in
addition
to
this
project?
B
I
mean
yeah
I
guess.
What
I
would
say
is
is
that
for
large
projects
like
this
particularly
seem
at
risk
and
even
for
large
designed
to
build
projects,
certain
estimate
thresholds
that
require
Subs
to
be
pre-qualified
in
order
to
bid
on
the
project,
and
so
that
requires
PFD,
along
with
our
Architects
and
our
Engineers,
to
do
a
lot
of
Outreach
to
make
sure
that
people
actually
submit
and
actually
go
after
these
projects,
and
so
I
know.
B
Titan,
for
example,
I
happen
to
be
managing
a
project
across
the
street
at
the
Jose
Quincy
Elementary
School,
which
is
going
to
reroof
that
building
and
they're
going
to
be
the
roofer
for
that
one
as
well.
So
I
think
that
was
a
byproduct
of
some
Outreach
by
our
department
to
make
sure
that
they
were
interested.
But
that's.
D
Awesome,
that's
great,
that's
great
to
hear
and
then
I'm
sorry
last
thing
is
just
in
terms
of
the
obviously
did
do
substantial
value
of
engineering,
and
you
know
that
you
didn't
want
to
do
more.
It
would
affect
the
building.
I
mean.
Are
there
substantial
things
that
we've
lost
in
that
value
of
engineering
that
we
should
know
about.
B
Well,
you
know
I
mean
I,
can
give
you
some
examples.
So,
for
example,
at
one
point
in
time
we
had
a
lot
more
curtain
wall
on
the
facade
and
curtain
wall
is
an
extremely
expensive
building,
enclosure
material,
and
so
we
had
to
reduce
that
significantly.
So
that's
you
know.
That's
one
example:
we.
F
Took
we
took
great
EXT,
we
went
to
a
great
extent
to
ensure
that
we
were
not
going
inside
the
building.
From
a
programmatic
point
of
view,
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
all
the
materials
that
we
were
being
or
value
engineering
out
had
no
effect
or
little
effect
on
the
actual
programming
of
the
school.
There
was
one
item
that
we
actually
did
have
on
the
chocolate
chopping
block
because
it
was
so
expensive
having
to
do
with
the
outdoor
roof.
F
You
know
the
roof
top
is
designed
and
was
designed
to
be
extensive,
and
you
know
had
a
lot
of
programming
elements
to
it
that
actually
did
land
on
the
chopping
block.
But
then
we
pulled
it
back
because
we
said
you
look,
you
know
we
can't
have
this
this
great
facility
out
here
and
only
use
like
a
fourth
of
the
roof
that
was
available
to
the
students.
F
So
we
figured
out
a
way
to
just
kind
of
say:
look:
we
were
we
were
doing
what
we
were
supposed
to
do
trying
to
get
within
budget,
but
it
just
didn't
work,
and
so,
when
we
realized
it
didn't
work,
we
said
well,
okay,
we
just
need
to
put
that
back
so
truth
be
told
that
was
one
of
the
items
that
that
was
there
but
is
no
longer
there.
F
F
A
You
councilor
Bach
just
have
a
few
questions.
Myself
one
is,
and
we
had
started
talking
about
it,
but
I
was
wondering
how
this
building
squares
away
with
the
mayor's
vision
for
the
green
New
Deal
for
our
Public
Schools.
If
anybody
wanted
to
sort
of
talk
about
how
those
tie
in
together
this
construction
and
that
vision
for
green
New
Deal
for
our
Public
Schools
terms
of
resiliency.
E
A
Terms
of
resiliency,
counselor,
yeah
and
thinking
about
climate
Justice
and
making
sure
that
our
buildings
are,
you
know,
are
electric
and
able
to
withstand
the
you
know
the
issues
that
we're
seeing
in
our
environments
I've
been
thinking
about
Chinatown
when
our
neighborhoods
that
suffers
a
dispersion
effect
of
you
know
pollution.
So
thinking
about
how
we've
integrated
that
and
how
that
aligns,
with
the
mayor's
vision
for
our
schools.
Well,.
B
One
of
the
things
I
can
say
is
working
with
the
pic
for
our
approvals.
We
incorporated
bike
Lanes
into
Marginal
Road,
which
were
upgraded,
I
think
from
what
was
there
previously
and
so
we're
trying
to
provide
as
many
options
for
getting
to
the
school
as
possible
so
outside
of
the
building.
That's
one
thing
that
we've
done
inside
the
building.
You
know
speaking
to
councilor
Flynn's
earlier
the
question
about
the
HVAC
systems.
I
think
that
that's
also
something
as
well
that
will
speak
to
the
mayor's
Vision
as
well.
E
E
Okay,
so
you
know
that
we're
more
in
line
with
the
electrical
for
the
project:
okay,.
A
And
then
next
question,
thank
you
and
that's
the
Ube
efforts.
You
put
the
brjp
goals
and
those
actual
goals
there.
Can
someone
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
the
Delta
between
what
the
actual
is
and
the
goal
and
what
are
sort
of
our.
What
are
the
problems
in
us
meeting
the
goal.
E
Well,
right
now
we're
only
about
14
for
staff
on
the
site,
so.
B
E
Started
fully
I
mean
we're
doing
sales,
steel
and
underground,
but
in
terms
of
Turner's
goals,
like
you
know,
they
meet
everyone.
We
talk
the
team
talks
about
this
weekly
and
at
the
project
meetings
and
always
having
an
eye
on
the
goals.
They've
been
performing
some
Outreach,
oh.
B
Sure
no
I
mean
the
I.
What
I
think
is
actually
a
little
bit
unique
that
they've
been
doing
is
actually
incorporating
the
the
actual
commitment
plan
into
the
subcontracts,
which
is
huge,
because
people
can
kind
of
talk
a
big
game
necessarily
when
you're
maybe
awarding
a
subcontract,
but
actually
having
that
in
their
contractual
commitment
to
the
CMS
is
very
important.
B
The
other
thing
I
would
just
add,
following
up
on
what
Kerry
just
said
is
that
our
average
daily
Workforce
is
about
20
right
now,
so
we
have
iron
workers
on
site.
We
have
some
underground
plumbing
taking
place.
Some
waterproofing
excuse
me,
but
as
we
ramp
up,
we
expect
that
the
average
daily
Workforce
to
at
least
double
over
the
course
of
the
project
and
I.
Think
when
that
happens,
you'll
see
the
brjp
commitments
and
the
goals
actually
increase
and.
A
B
Thank
you
well,
I
mean
I,
think
that
we
could
talk
with
Turner
and
see
if
there
are
other
opportunities
that
we
can
Implement
and
open
strategies.
Absolutely
I.
Think
it's
a
big
big
piece
of
it
is
including
that
in
their
contract
with
their
subs
yep.
G
C
A
Are
being
aggressive
with
saying
we
need
to
meet
these
goals,
we
need
to
meet
these
goals.
Yes
and
then
another
question
is
on
the
is
on
the
UB
Eagles,
just
one
request
that
I'd
like
to
formally
make
as
if
we
could
break
down
other
UB
eagle
of
the
Ube
subcontracts,
which
are
allocated
to
businesses
Enterprises
owned
by
a
woman
and
which
ones
are
owned
by
people
of
color.
If
we
have
that,
do
we
have
that
data,
we
do
yeah.
A
If
you
could
just
you
know,
this
is
a
great
list
and
just
like
just
a
marking.
Next
to
it,
I
think
would
be
really
helpful
as
we
try
to
make
sure
that
we
are
meeting
our
goals
and
then
I
have
a
question
that
I
feel
like
you,
no
one.
Maybe
this
is
not
the
right
crowd
for
it,
but
I'm
just
curious
why
we
are
looking
at
six
through
twelve,
when
the,
when
the
model
for
most
of
our
schools
is
moving
towards
a
7
to
12
school
model.
A
Instead
of
you
know,
we're
doing
k-6
and
then
seven
through
twelve,
so
just
curious
why
this
is
still
planned
for
6-12.
F
Can
speak
to
that?
I
was
at
the
school
department
when
that
happened,
if
that's
okay,
so
yeah
I
spent
years
at
the
school
department
before
I,
went
to
public
facilities
and
because
the
JQ
sorry
Quincy
has
a
unique
situation
where
the
children
who
were
at
the
lower
well
I
can't
call
it
lower
school
at.
F
Josiah
Quincy
elementary
school
feed
directly
into
the
upper
school
that
they
there
was
no
real
need
for
them
to
change
the
structure
of
the
school
so
that
children
when
they
come
in
initially
they
know
that
they
have
a
it's
actually
a
it's,
not
a
a
k-6
712.
It's
actually
a
K-12
experience
that
they
have.
So
that's
one
reason
why
it's
an
outlier
in
that
respect.
A
Okay,
thank
you
I'm.
Turning
to
my
Council
colleagues
to
see
if
they
have
any
additional
questions,
either.
Council
president
Flynn
or
Council
Bach.
C
D
Yep
yeah,
just
the
one
other
question
that
I
had
was,
and
it's
related
Council
Flynn
asked
you
about
the
HVAC
system,
but
filter
specifically.
Do
you
guys
remember
what
what
where
we.
B
F
D
Right,
breathing
them
in
it's,
not
that
we
can
avoid
that.
Okay
and
you
guys
feel
confident
that
you're
not
going
to
come
back
to
us
a
second
time
if
we
authorize
this
30
million
dollar
bill.
E
We
typically
don't
come
before
looking
for
additional
funds.
Honestly,
this
is
just
not
this,
this,
the
climate
that
we're
in
right
now
we're
seeing
it
throughout
all
of
our
projects,
and
it's
delaying
and
increasing
cost.
D
And
I
guess
the
question
that
raises
for
me,
Carrie
is
just
should
the
bracket
for
a
minute,
even
the
schools,
like
I
mean.
Should
the
council
expect
therefore
like
in
some
sense
a
wave
of
these,
where
you
guys
are
going
to
come
back
to
us
with
things
that
we
authorized
in
the
2020
2021
Capital,
you
know
budget
votes
to
be
like
hey
these
all
cost.
More
now,
like
is
that.
E
I
know
we
will
be
coming
back
before
you
for
the
Cotter
school
right
now.
I
didn't
feel
confident
bringing
that
to
you
without
because
we
know
here
we're
70
bought
out
we're
only
five
percent
bought
out
on
that
project.
We
just
assigned
this
CM
so,
but
that
one
we
will
be
coming
before
you
on
and
because
in
one
of
the
things
too,
because
these
draft
orders
are
specific
to
the
building,
msba
requires
it
for
the
full
appropriation.
E
D
E
With
the
copy-
yes,
because
we
we
could
have
an
overage
like
on
the
jqes
that
came
in,
but
there's
a
re,
the
reserve
fund
for
BPS
will
actually
be
able
to
support
that
project
without
having
to
for
you
to
come
back
before
you,
but
where
this
is
msba
each
each
loan
order
is,
is
independent,
so
for
it
for
for
the
building
that
it
is
got.
D
It
yeah
so
and-
and
you
know,
and
I
and
I
mean
I-
know
something
that
counselor
Lou,
Jen
and
I
I
share
is
a
sense
that
you
know
we
we
want
to
actually
be
building
the
stuff
that
we
authorize
in
our
capital
budget.
So
certainly
like
you
know,
well,
cost
increases
are
frustrating
to
all
of
us.
I
think
that,
like
we
definitely
don't
want
a
dynamic,
we're
kind
of
like
Council
approval
is
causing
these
projects
to
get
even
more
elongated
and
cost
above
more
because
if
anything,
we
want
to
break
that
spiral.
G
D
No
I
just
wanted
to
get
a
sense
of
how
much
okay
so
the
Carter.
That's
future
common
attractions.
E
Yes,
probably
February
March
we'll
have
a
better
sense,
we're
starting
the
pre-qualifications
for
that
one.
So
once
we
have
the
subcon
file
sub,
it's
bought
out,
we'll
have
a
better
sense.
D
And
just
for
folks
again
watching
at
home,
I'm
right
an
understanding
right
that
when
you
say
bought
out
what
you
mean,
it's
like
you
know
once
you've
scoped
the
work
someone's
bid
on
it.
You've
assign
it
to
them.
You
signed
a
contract,
then
like
they're,
doing
it
at
the
price
that
we
set
with
them
and.
E
D
A
H
Not
now
just
thank
you,
I
was
listening
in
sorry
I'm
late,
and
this
is
exciting
any
new
school
building.
As
you
know,
as
a
school
teacher,
we
need
to
invest
in
our
school
building
so
supportive
and
excited
to
hear
what's
going
on.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
Thank
you.
We
are
now
moving
over
to
public
testimony.
Is
there
anyone
who's
signed
up
for
public
testimony?
No,
so
you
know
when
I
signed
up
for
public
testimony
and
seeing
no
additional
questions
from
my
colleagues.
I
want
to
thank
the
administration
for
coming
and
for
the
work
and
your
commitment
to
building
buildings
for
our
young
kids
that
are
deserving
of
and
match
their
dignity
and
are
that
we're
building
for
a
resilient
future
for
our
city
and
for
everyone
involved.
A
Hopefully,
I
will
be
able
to
get
the
the
follow-up
to
those
questions
about
breakdown
of
disaggregate.
The
Ube
data
and
I
am
going
to
call
this
meeting
to
a
close
and
we
are
adjourned.
Thank
you.
Everyone
thank.