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Dockets #0338 - 0342, 0775, 0776- Confirmations of the Appointments or Re-appointments to the Zoning Board of Appeal
#0777 - Confirmations of an Appointment the Boston Audit Committee
A
A
This
is
a
hearing
on
docket
number
zero.
Three,
three:
eight
through
zero,
three,
four:
two
and
zero:
seven:
seven:
five
through
zero,
seven,
seven,
seven
appointments
to
the
audit
committee
for
the
City
of
Boston,
as
well
as
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeal
I,
want
to
remind
everyone
that
this
public
hearing
is
being
recorded
in
broadcast,
live
on
channels,
Comcast,
eight
RCN,
82
and
Verizon
1964,
as
well
as
streaming
on
the
city
of
Boston
website.
So
please
silence
your
cell
phones
and
other
devices.
A
We
will
take
public
testimony
if
there's
any
interest
throughout
the
hearing,
so
please
sign
up
at
the
sign-in
sheets
at
the
door.
These
matters
are
sponsored
by
the
mayor
and
were
referred
to
the
Committee
on
planning,
development
and
transportation.
So
apologize
for
the
the
technical
reading,
but
I
do
need
to
read
each
docket
separately
into
the
record,
and
then
we
can
proceed
with
our
nominee
for
the
audit
committee.
So
again,
the
subject
of
this
hearing
is
confirmations
of
the
appointments
or
reappointments
to
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeal
or
the
Boston
audit
committee.
A
We
will
proceed
to
the
nominees
for
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
start
with
the
reappointments
altogether
first
Neal
and
then
we'll
move
to
the
new
appointments.
After
that
and
again
throughout
there
will
be
public
testimony.
Opportunities
and
I
do
have
some
communications
emails,
letters
of
folks
who
had
various
questions
for
specific
nominees
or
in
general
that
I
will
share
as
relevant.
So
thank
you
so
much
and
a
councillor
Edwards
you
like
to
make
any
opening
statement.
B
C
B
Think
that
there's
a
true
concern
in
many
cases
are
starting
to
wonder
if
even
planning
is
worth
doing
and
participating
in
some
cases.
Because
of
the
fact
that
so
many
times
the
neighborhood
has
spoken
and
feels
ignored.
So
we're
going
to
go
through
those
processes
and
those
questions
and
I
think
it's
a
dialogue
that
many
people
in
the
city
are
looking
forward
to.
D
E
Good
morning
councillors,
my
name
is
Mark
McDonald
I'm,
with
the
auditing
department
and
I'm
here
today,
with
Katherine
O'neill
who's
being
put
forth
to
fill
the
remainder
of
a
term
on
the
audit
committee
for
a
member
who
was
unable
to
fulfill
the
whole
term,
so
the
term
would
be
expiring.
November,
1st
2020,
the
Audit
Committee,
provides
oversight
to
the
city's
internal
and
external
audit
activities
they
meet
on
a
quarterly
basis.
They
are
cheered
by
Larry
dakara.
E
A
F
A
D
E
G
I
just
want
to
say:
I
have
known
Katherine
for
many
years.
She
has
an
excellent
background,
excellent
education
and
has
contributed
so
much
to
not
just
to
dot
just
a
but
to
the
entire
city
of
Boston,
so
I
know
Boston
will
be
in
great
hands
with
Catherine's
experience,
hard
work,
dedication
working
for
the
people
of
Boston,
so
I'm
going
to
be
proud
to
support
Katherine,
so
I
just
want
to
say,
keep
up
the
great
work
out
them.
Thank.
H
A
You
thank
you
very
much
any
closing
statements
or
other
thoughts,
you'd
like
to
offer
okay
great.
Thank
you
both
very
much
for
your
time.
We
really
appreciate
you
being
here
and
your
patience
and
then
we
will
transition
to
the
nominees
for
reappointment
to
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals,
so
Neal.
If
you
could
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
have
reappointment
nominees
as
Mark
fortune,
Kristine,
araújo
and
Craig
Galvin
am
I
missing
anyone,
oh
and,
of
course
mr.
Bickerstaff.
I
A
In
the
meantime,
I
wanted
to
read
a
letter
into
the
record
from
city
council
president
andreia
Campbell
do
colleagues,
regretfully
I'm
unable
to
attend
today's
hearing
on
dockets
number
zero.
Three:
three:
eight
through
zero,
three:
four:
two
and
zero:
seven:
seven:
five
through
zero,
seven,
seven,
seven,
a
hearing
regarding
the
confirmations
of
the
appointment.
Sorry,
appointments
to
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeal
or
the
Boston
audit
committee,
I
think
councillor
woo
for
her
leadership
on
this
topic
and
look
forward
to
reviewing
updates
and
next
steps.
Sincerely
Andrea
Campbell,
Boston
city
council,
president
district
4.
A
Okay,
so
Geoff
is
back
as
well
to
do
the
overview
and
introduction
and
then
we'll
hear
from
each
of
our
I
think.
Maybe
what
makes
sense
is
let's
see
how
we're
doing
on
time,
I
think
if
we
can
go
each
candidate,
what
you
could
do
your
introductions,
we'll
ask
you
any
questions
and
then
each
candidate
can
introduce
themselves,
maybe
a
general
statement
on
why
you
want
to
be
reappointed
and
then,
if
there
are
individual
questions,
we
can
kind
of
target
one
by
one
or
overall,
okay
Geoff.
Please.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chairwoman
councillors.
My
name
is
Geoff
Hinton
I'm,
the
senior
zoning
planner
at
the
Boston
Planning
and
Development
Agency
I
am
NOT
a
staff
member
to
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
IM,
the
agency's.
I
guess
you
could
call
it
liaison
to
them
the
BPD
a
is
tasked
with
making
recommendations
to
any
appeal
that
goes
before
them.
The
board
of
appeal
is
also
under
the
same,
enabling
act
as
the
Boston
Zoning
Commission.
Their
job
is
to
hear
appeals
from
the
Boston
zoning
code.
J
Also,
the
state
building
code
in
terms
of
whether
or
not
a
proposed
project
that
does
not
meet
the
underlying
zoning
requirements
is
worthy
of
getting
a
conditional
use
permit
or
a
variance.
I
have
been
involved
with
this
body
for
a
very
long
time
and
I
know
that
the
work
that
bored
does
is
painstaking.
It's
very
critical
to
the
development
in
the
protection
of
the
city.
One
thing
I
would
like
to
add
about
this
board
is
that
they
do
not
sit
up
there
on
Tuesday
mornings.
They
actually
and
just
listen
to
testimony
and
read.
J
What's
in
front
of
them,
there
are
site
visits.
There
are
site
visits
daily
so
that
they
can
actually
get
boots
on
the
ground
and
see
how
a
proposed
project
that
is
before
them
would
affect
that
community.
So,
right
now
the
four
reappointments
before
you
I
would
highly
recommend
that
the
committee
recommend
their
reappointment
because
I
think
they
have
a
firm
grasp
on
development
in
the
city
and
each
neighborhood
individually.
So
with
that
I
would
give
it
back
to
the
madam
chairwoman
for
any
sort
of
comments.
Ok,.
A
J
A
Okay,
so
I'm
gonna.
So
if
everyone
would
bear
with
me,
I'm
gonna
just
quickly
read
through
the
GBAS
enabling
statute.
Seven
members
and
seven
alternates
appointed
in
the
appointed
by
the
mayor
and
confirmed
by
the
City
Council
in
the
following
manner.
One
member
and
one
alternate
member
from
out
of
four
candidates
nominated
by
the
Greater
Boston
real
estate
board,
one
member
and
alternate
from
four
candidates
nominated
by
the
Boston
society
of
Architects.
One
member
and
one
alternate
from
eight
out
of
a
pool
of
two
from
the
Master
Builders
Association.
A
Two
from
the
building
trades
employers
Association
to
from
the
associated
general
contractor's
of
mass
and
two
from
the
Contractors
Association
of
Boston.
One
member
and
one
alternate
out
of
of
four
nominated
by
the
building
trades.
Council
of
Greater
Boston,
one
member
and
one
alternate
selected
at
large
by
the
mayor
and
two
members
and
two
alternates
selected
by
the
mayor.
A
You
could
have
served
for
at
least
one
year
as
a
member
of
a
residential
neighborhood
organization
which
has
been
established
by
the
mayor
and
consists
of
residents
of
a
specific
neighborhood
and
has
his
principal
purpose.
The
preservation
of
quality
of
life,
of
residential
quality,
of
residential
life
in
the
neighborhood,
provided
that
any
person
appointed
from
a
residential
neighborhood
organization
under
this
section
is
also
a
resident
of
that
neighborhood
represented
by
the
organization
and
the
two
members
from
these
neighborhood
organizations
shall
reside
at
the
time
of
their
respective
appointments
in
different
city
council
districts.
A
K
L
M
Good
morning
Council's
governing
madam
chair,
my
mark
fortune,
I,
am
sitting
on
this
board
as
the
building
Employees
Association
Tom
gunning.
Also
a
business
agent
with
the
sprinkler
fitters
union
for
32
years,
17
of
which,
as
an
agent
I
live
in
West
Roxbury,
grew
up
in
Dorchester.
Well,
did
you
make
a
plane,
never
left
the
city
proud
graduate
of
the
Boston
Public
School
System
as
well.
Thank
you
thank.
B
C
For
me,
I
think
one
of
the
important
pieces
is
a
site
visit
and,
as
members
of
the
Zoning
Commission
didn't
speak,
to
was
the
desire
to
maintain
neighborhood
character,
so
I
think
that's
one
of
the
important
things
the
Zoning
Commission
also
talks
about
the
zoning
code
talks
about
health
safety
and
welfare
of
the
residents
of
Boston,
so
those
are
the
lenses
that
I
look
at.
We
listen
very
closely,
as
you
know,
to
testimony.
That's
given
in
support
are
in
opposition
to
a
project
and
that's
why
I
think
it's?
C
If,
if
you
know
listening
to
us,
you'll
see
that
I
ask
people
to
give
new
information
every
time
there
there
I
think
that
the
barriers
are
the
the
tests
are
set
very
high
because
I
think
the
topography
of
the
city.
If
you
look
at
that
is,
is
it
most
of
it
is
deal
well
accepting
when
you
get
to
cases
of
putting
stone
or
very
steep
slopes.
Most
of
the
city
is
buildable.
C
If
you
look
at
hardship,
we
do
not
do
a
fiscal
test
on
hardship
that
is
irrelevant
to
our
conversations
in
it
in
every
way
in
every
way
possible.
So
we
do
look
at
the
merits
of
each
case.
We,
as
you
seen,
we
really
try
to
understand
what
the
opposition
is
based
on
and
we
really
try
to
reach
an
equitable
decision.
C
Not
and
I
know
that
every
time
people
there's
a
lot
of
people
who
are
unhappy
with
our
decisions,
and
we
recognize
that
you
know
every
time
I
go
to
a
community
meeting,
because
I
still
do
go
to
community
meetings,
not
not
specifically
as
a
as
a
board
of
appeal
person,
but
as
wearing
my
my
regular
job
hat.
You
know
and
I
hear
I
hear
about
that.
But
I
also
have
people
come
up
to
me
and
talk
about
the
way
they
felt
heard
at
them
at
the
meetings.
C
K
It
for
me
is
a
culmination
of
all
of
the
input
all
of
the
site
visits
all
of
my
experience
in
the
city
of
Boston,
and
you
know,
input
from
neighbors
and
input
from
from
residents
of
the
area
that
helped
me
make
the
decision
to
go
forward.
You
know
with
any
case
what
I
like
about
this
job
is
that
it
is
a
you
know.
K
K
Really
people
are
really
happy
or
they're
really
upset
and,
as
Christine
said,
it's
been
a
amazing
experience
for
me
to
be
able
to
work
through
that
process
and
to
be
open-minded
and
to
understand
that
this
process
is
important
to
the
growth
of
the
city
and
in
smart
growth
in
this
city
and
I've,
been
again
I'm
honored
to
be
on
this
committee
and
honored
to
work
with
such
great
councils
as
you
guys,
and
to
also
understand
that
neighborhood
input
is
important
and
that
wants
and
needs
of
this
city
are
important.
Also
thank
you,
as
as.
L
L
There
is
a
balance
when
I
say
need
for
development
as
a
community
person,
I
recognized
that
there
in
proposed
developers
or
individuals
who
want
to
develop
otherwise
that
there
is
a
balance,
I,
don't
think.
As
a
member
of
the
Zoning
Board
I
can
allow
someone
to
be
denied
a
right
to
develop
if
you
will,
as
as
it
balances
with
the
desires
as
mr.
Galvin
just
said,
of
the
communities
that
which
are
being
changed
in
these
developments.
L
So
I
find
it
somewhat
somewhat
difficult
in
ways
but
to
balance
the
desire
of
the
communities
and
this
and
the
desires
of
folks
who
want
to
come
in
and
develop,
and
particularly
in
residential
areas.
So
but
I
do
appreciate
the
fact
that
I'm
able
to
be
part
of
the
renovation
of
particular
neighborhoods
in
my
neighborhood
with
urban
renewal,
there
was
the
particular
scourge
and
some
folks
have
accustomed
themselves
to
seeing
open
Lots,
but
I
think
that
there
is
a
place
for
better
reuse
of
the
land
and
hopefully
I
can
be
part
of
that.
Thank
you.
M
Mark
fortune
I'm,
the
secretary,
obviously
I,
read
into
the
docket
the
violations.
The
purpose,
one
of
the
things
that
I
really
listen
to
is
the
testimony
the
mayor's
office,
the
councillors,
their
representatives,
they're.
Obviously
the
community
what's
been
said,
I
think
you
know,
Christine
put
it
perfectly
to
add
something
new
to
it.
I
think
everything's
been
pretty
much
said,
but
we
do
look
at
the
merits
of
the
of
the
project.
Again,
not
everybody
is
always
happy.
M
I
live
in
West
Roxbury
and
there's
such
a
few
developments
out
there
that
you
know
people
are
commenting,
so
you
sit
on
the
zoning
both
feels.
How
can
you
approve
something
like
that?
It
just
doesn't
look
right
the
character
of
the
neighborhood,
but
you
know
we
look
at
what
the
merit
of
the
project
is
and
we
do
a
lot
of
site
visits.
You
know
to
going
out
there
making
sure
the
community
is
happy
with
that
now,
not
all
the
time
that
they
are.
Unfortunately,
nobody
wants
to
see
it
in
their
backyard.
M
I
guess
is
the
old
saying,
but
I
think
pretty
much.
What
everybody
has
set
up
here
is
the
way
we
look
at
things
on
the
merits
of
the
project,
and
you
know
I
think
yet.
I've
been
quoted
a
few
times,
I
think
in
the
newspaper
where
some
of
the
violations
have
been
two
pages
long
and
the
project
has
been
approved
again.
It
goes
to
testimony
and
how
we
look
at
it
and
that
basically,
the
merits
of
that
project.
Thank
you.
So.
A
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
multiple
rounds
for
everyone
and
I
know
there's
a
lot
going
on.
Council
clarity
had
been
here
before
and
then
stepped
out,
and
now
it's
home.
He
has
another
time
coming.
I
don't
know
if
colleagues
would
be
interested
in
willing
to
let
him
defer
to
get
one
question
in.
D
A
H
Your
further
courtesy,
counsel,
Baker
and
through
the
chair
ously,
it's
great
to
see
everybody
I
know
we
worked.
We've
worked
together
for
many
many
years.
We
don't
always
agree
1,000%
of
the
time,
but
I
know
I
can
speak
for
each
of
you,
your
character,
your
integrity,
your
community
involvement.
How
proud
you
are
to
be
Bostonians.
How
excited
you
are
about
the
future
of
our
city
and
the
front
row
seat.
H
You
guys
have
every
Tuesday
in
helping
us
and
the
folks
that
elect
us
and
folks
that
we
call
family
friends
and
neighbors
as
we
shape
the
future
of
our
neighborhoods.
So
that
said,
obviously
I
would
like
to
see
some
more
denials.
At
times,
I'd
like
to
see
some
approvals
at
times
again,
we
don't
always
bad
a
thousand
up
there.
H
H
So
it
always,
you
know,
bothered
him
that
he
and
if
you
know
him
personally
and
you
knew
his
character,
he
enjoyed
helping
people
and
that's
a
tough
spot
to
be
in
when
you're
elected
leader
and
you
have
to
pick
between
neighbor,
a
and
neighbor
B
and
so
again.
I
can
understand
and
appreciate
the
difficulties
you
have
up
there.
One
point
of
thought:
I,
you
know,
I
know
that
oftentimes
projects
get
deferred
and
this
is
probably
more
of
a
function.
H
Maybe
administrative
leave,
but
the
folks
don't
get
re
noticed
and
I've
always
had
a
problem
with
that.
So
neighbors
get
noticed
or
if
there's
an
officer,
Neighborhood
Services
sends
out
the
leaflets
and
the
flyest
have
an
abutters
meeting
or
community
meeting
and
then
you're
kind
of
grinding
it
down,
and
then
you
get
up
there
and
then
there's
a
deferral
or
a
motion
for
a
deferral
and
that's
my
understanding
that
no
so
the
abutters
don't
get
re
noticed
of
that
and
I
just
think
this
sort
of
2019.
H
H
So
again
footnote-
and
maybe
that's
true
I,
don't
know
it's
true,
maybe
through
the
chair,
if
it's
true
Jeff's
office,
but
just
another,
ask
from
this
counsel
that
when
a
man
it
gets
deferred
that
sort
of
a
new
round
of
of
mailings
or
notices
go
out
to
to
the
applicant
or
the
proponent,
but
also
for
the
director.
But
is
this
so
that
you
know
everyone
has
a
fair
shot
of
coming
in
and
being
heard
and
they
may
or
may
not
be
able
to
make
the
next
date
or
not.
H
H
At
least
my
tenure
here
in
the
council
and
I
could
be
wrong,
but
no
person
or
name
jumps
out
and
so
I'm
proud
to
offer
support
this
two
gentlemen
that
are
in
the
audience
that
will
be
coming
up
after
you,
folks
I
have
to
step
out
to
a
previous
engagement
but
and
that's
jobber,
zero
and
Edward
DeVoe
I
can
speak
about
their
commitment
to
the
community,
I've
known
them
many
many
years.
I
know
their
families,
I
know
active
and
engaged.
H
H
If
you
will
that
everyone's
trying
to
do
what
they
have
done
in
other
parts
of
the
city,
my
neighborhood
have
been
included
to
have
you
know
two
individuals
willing
to
serve,
but
also
being
able
to
represent
their
community
and
the
city
in
that
capacity,
so
I'm
proud
to
also
support
Jo
Jo
and
had
to
go
along
with
the
folks
that
are
in
front
of
me.
So
thank.
A
D
C
H
C
D
And
you
mentioned
a
little
bit
earlier
and
I'm,
not
picking
on
you
you're
just
you're
the
chair,
so
a
little
bit
earlier,
you
talked
about
the
hardship
like,
so
the
variance
is
supposed
to
be,
or
sometimes
what
we
hear
they're
supposed
to
prove
hardship.
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
that?
What
that
may
mean,
because
you
also
said
that
you
don't
really
deal
with
the
hardship
in,
but
can
you
tie
that
together
this.
C
C
The
proponents
part,
because
that
all
week
I
mean
all
of
us
I
think
as
Boston
residents
are
concerned
about
how
our
our
neighborhoods
grow,
how
they
evolve,
etc.
So
we
come
with
that
specific
viewpoint
which
may
be
different
from
a
developer,
who
may
or
may
not
live
in
the
city
and
who's
looking
to
maximize
his
or
her
profit.
So
we
try
to
really
keep
clear
of
those
discussions
and
really
focus
on
the
project
and
not
at
all
on
the
financial
piece
of
it.
So.
D
C
D
And
thank
you
so
the
last
time
I
was
at
the
at
the
the
board.
It
was,
and
you
mention
it
earlier,
how
you
you
try
not
to
let
the
same
point
come
back
up
and
and
I
was
speaking
in
favor
of
other
projects.
I
still
think
is
a
great
project
and
they
were
probably
twelve
people
lined
up
to
say
the
exact
same
thing
and
I
could
appreciate
that
you
let
two
or
three
of
them
say
what
they
had
to
say
and
then
you
cut
them
off.
C
D
D
So
I've
been
on
here
I'm
in
my
eighth
year
now
my
first
two
years,
we
may
have
had
five
or
six
appeals
in
two
years
and
then
so
this
last
this
last
I
I,
don't
think
a
lot
of
the
angst
around
the
city
is
just
the
amount
of
projects
that
are
coming
through,
but
I
also
can
look
at
in
a
sense
of
my
neighborhood
was
was
one
of
those
neighborhoods
that
was
totally
looked
beyond.
There
was
no
investment
going
on.
D
Nobody
even
painted
their
house
when
I
when
I
was
a
kid
so
now
to
look
around
and
see
the
windows
going
in
because,
as
as
we
have,
investment
in
my
neighborhood
does
come
with
some.
Some
I
think
challenging
challenging
bike
products.
I
think
speaking
for
my
neighborhood
district
free
looks
better,
and
a
lot
of
that
is
due
to
your
stewardship
in
making
sure
that
we
do
that
these
projects
do
fit
in
with
the
fabric
of
the
neighborhood,
and
we
are
talking
about
how
they
interact
with
with
the
community.
D
I
I
It
is
really
incredible
to
see
just
in
the
five
and
a
half
years,
I've
been
on
this
body:
the
growth
of
development,
the
booming
economy
of
the
city
of
boss
and
a
lot
of
that
ends
up
in
your
hearing
room
and
before
you
and
I
think
you
know
each
one
of
you
and,
in
my
experience,
has
done
a
phenomenal
job
of
balancing
those
competing
interests
of
you
know
trying
to
make
sure
that
neighbors
of
some
of
these
proposals
are
heard
and
I.
Think
I.
I
Believe,
madam
chair,
that
you,
you
said
this,
and
maybe
some
of
the
others
did
as
well
that
everyone
needs
to
make
sure
they
have
that
form
to
have
their
voice
heard
and
not
always
gonna
go
their
way
and
I
feel
similarly,
whether
it's
I'm
up
there
I'm
in
front
of
other
bodies,
whether
I'm
in
front
of
some
of
my
colleagues
on
the
City
Council.
But
you
know
if
this
is
gonna,
be
a
city
based
on
transparency
based
on
community,
make
sure
everyone
does
have
the
opportunity
be
heard.
It's
so
important.
I
So
thank
you
for
the
way
you're
doing
that,
and
thank
you
also
for
being
so
thoughtful
on
these
issues.
It
is
very
easy
to
just
say
no
to
just
give
in
to
I
think
sometimes
a
avalanche
of
calls
and
emails,
and
from
some
of
us
and
others,
and
you
know
we
did
that
the
city
would
not
move
forward.
We
would
not
be
growing
so
I
want
to
thank
you
for
that
and
for
your
hard
work.
I
I
do
have
one
question,
though,
and
it
relates
to
our
continuing
growing
industry
of
cannabis
in
the
City
of
Austin,
and
you
know
we're
at
sort
of
a
point
right
now
where
things
are
getting
thrown
into
your
lap,
sometimes
into
ours,
without
a
lot
of
clear
guidance
on.
Can
you
speak
broadly
to
how
you're
evaluating
that
have
you
addressed?
You
know
the
issues
or
some
of
the
issues
around
if
multiple
applicants
in
the
same
neighborhood
are
coming
before
the
CBA.
How
is
this
working?
I
C
There
have
been
many
applications
that
have
come
through,
which
we've
approved,
not
all
of
them,
mature
into
actual
construction.
You
know
you
know
that
so
as
far
as
and
because
we
know
that
we
have
one
project
at
least
one
project
ahead
of
us.
You
know
I
would
like
to
give
them
the
the
courtesy
of
a
due
process
to
hear
through
what
they
have
to
say
at
the
hearing
in
July,
so
I'm
trying
not
to
predispose
this
board
in
any
way,
but
to
keep
an
open
mind
to
their
proposal
and
and
their
application.
Yeah.
I
I
It
can
be
a
situation
where
maybe
every
neighborhood
is
gonna
be
heard
at
the
same
time,
on
the
same
day,
that
sort
of
approach
and
just
to
put
that
in
your
ear,
because
I
think
the
residents
I
represent
even
the
folks
who
are
against
cannabis,
acknowledge
the
fact
that
these
entities
and
these
dispensers
are
coming
to
all
of
our
neighborhoods.
But
they
do
want
to
still
play
their
traditional
role,
whether
it's
you
know
a
restaurant,
a
bar
and
in
development
in
evaluating
that
and
sharing
their
views
with
the
governing
agency.
C
Because
we
do
ask
about
security,
we
do
ask
about
waiting
areas.
You
know,
as
I've,
driven
by
the
facility
in
Brookline
I've
noticed
how
they've
tried
to
accommodate
their
their
lines
off
the
street
and
into
the
sidewalk.
You
know.
So
we
we
ask
all
those
questions
because
they're
important
to
quality
of
life
in
any
neighborhood
bead
highly
commercial
are
less
less
commercial.
But
you
know
those
are
the
things
we
pay
a
significant
amount
of
attention
to
well.
I
A
Thank
you.
I
had
one
question
from
someone
constituent
on
social
media
just
wanting
to
know
what
weight
you
give
to
community
feedback
as
your
weight.
You
all
mentioned
several
factors
that
you
consider
in
your
head
is
there
kind
of
a
template
of
you
know
30%
this
30%,
this
30%,
this
or,
and
how
do
you
decide
in
what
situations
when
to
take?
M
Just
can
I
guess
it's
tough
to
gauge,
and
obviously
individuals
come
in
speak
in
the
room
against
a
particular
project.
You
may
have
someone
that
speaks.
You
know
gives
a
different
view.
You
know
three
or
four
people
are
on
the
same
topic,
but
there's
another
individual
he's
upset
about
parking,
so
I'll
gauge
as
a
member
I'll,
just
gauge
that
take
the
testimony
into
account.
M
L
I
concur:
I
did
sometime
difficult
to
for
people
who
have
other
things
to
do
with
their
time.
Neighbors
come
in
with
complaints
weighing
their
complaint
against
the
regulations,
requirements
for
for
zoning,
it's
tough
to
say
well
as
long
as
this
is
not
broken.
I
can't
really
involve
myself.
I
want
to
say,
involve
myself,
I
mean
I,
can't
vote
against
or
for
a
particular
development.
So
I
concur
with
my
fellow
Zoning
Board
members.
K
Yeah
I
think
what
what
people
typically
see
in
the
Zoning
Board
of
appeal
hearing
room
is
a
snapshot
of
what
really
the
whole
process
is
and
I
think
that
you
know
I,
think
that
you
know
our
site
visits
and
our
commitment
to
listening
to
people
and
being
open
minded
in
our
understanding
of
different
neighborhoods
in
their
approach,
and
you
know,
I
think
that
that
has
been
beneficial
to
all
I.
Think
Christine
does
an
amazing
job
at
balancing.
K
You
know
47
people
wanting
to
speak
in
opposition
to
something-
and
you
know
you
know,
balancing
those
acts,
and
you
know
I
think
that
you
know,
as
as
we
have
seen
in
the
city.
This
is
a
very
divisive
situation.
Anything
to
do
with
development
is
divisive,
I
mean
you
can
stand
at
a
coffee
shop
and
somebody
can
complain
about
development
in
their
neighborhood
and
you
can
say
to
them.
Okay.
J
L
C
Just
to
pick
up
and
on
what
the
rest
of
the
team
has
spoken
about
is
that
we
I
don't
think
we
can.
You
know,
take
a
pie,
chart
and
quantify
it.
You
know
we
do
spend
a
lot
of
time
listening
listening
carefully
and
in
some
cases
the
only
way
to
get
clear
resolution
is
through
providers,
and
we
are
not
shy
about
doing
that.
You
know
putting
enough
providers
in
place
on
a
project
that
will
protect
neighborhood
residents
when
there
is
merit
to
the
project
itself.
C
K
A
I
just
had
two
questions
of
my
own:
that
I'm
gonna
ask
together
and
feel
free
to
just
address
them
together,
because
I
know
we
want
to
keep
moving
through
and
councillor
Edwards
has
another
round
as
well.
What
do
you
think
the
role,
your
role
as
a
member
of
zeebee,
a
board
member,
is
in
addressing
gentrification
and
displacement,
and
how
would
you
approach
a
reappointment
for
a
new
term
differently
than
you
have
for
you
know
in
your
tenure
so
far.
C
You
know
those
are
hard
questions
to
answer
because
I
know
that's
physical
displacement,
I
cut
it
more
finely
and
look
at
cultural
displacement,
because
I
know
that
is
happening
in
our
city
and
and
it
and
it's
something
I
think
about
a
lot.
You
know
and
I
think
we
rely
on
tools
that
the
city
has
in
its
toolbox,
such
as
inclusionary
zoning
and
and
other
tools
to
ensure
that
as
many
residents
as
possible
stay
in
the
city.
C
I
also
know
that
the
CDC's
we
see
a
lot
of
projects
come
through
the
CDC's
which
really
prioritize
affordable
units,
so
so
I
think.
As
as
a
group,
we
rely
on
other
tools
to
really
address
those
issues,
because
I
think
we
do
not
have
the
authority
to
actually
do
anything
more.
Above
and
beyond
that
and.
C
You
know
I,
don't
know,
I
mean
because
every
time
I
sit
at
the
zoning
voter
feet
off
appeal.
Intellectual,
intellectually,
I'm,
challenged
of
the
question.
That's
different
with
an
approach,
that's
different
and
so
I
think
that
that,
for
me,
I
have
to
be
constantly.
You
know
really
paying
attention
really
being
constantly
updated
and
what
the
current
zoning
is.
The
new
articles
that
are
being
processed
to
really
understand
what
their
requirements
are,
such
as
the
East
Boston
iPod,
for
example.
M
M
You
know
you
got
each
each
individual
or
a
butter
and
in
some
cases
the
abutters
may
not
even
live
in
the
community
anymore,
but
on
the
property
but
they're
living
in
Weston
of
the
living
in
a
very
affluent
neighborhood,
and
they
don't
want
to
see
the
dynamics
change
as
well.
But
yet
they
really
don't
live
here.
So
it's
it
think.
We
look
at
those
things.
You
know
equally
and
different.
M
You
know:
I'm
a
city
person,
I'm
gonna
I,
was
born
here.
I'm
gonna
die
here,
that's
me,
but
that
doesn't
necessary.
It's
gonna
happen
to
everybody,
that's
living
in
South
Boston,
or
did
you
make
a
play?
No
Dorchester
East,
Boston
or
West
Roxbury?
So
we
do
look
at
that
and
you
know
obviously
my
mother's
elderly
she's
80
some
odd
years
old,
she's
in
Jamaica
Plain
she's
in
in
Boston
housing.
You
know
she
grew
up
here
in
Roxbury
and
stayed
here
and
I
want
that
to
happen.
M
For
my
children
down
the
road
as
well,
so
I
think
you
know
Christine
put
it
it's
tough.
It's
a
tough
question.
You
know,
affordable
housing
is
one
thing
and
inclusionary
as
far
as
you
know
the
developer
coming
in
here
and
promising
things
and
doing
things-
and
you
know
hopefully
staying
on
topic
as
far
as
asked
concern
so
yeah
anything.
M
Don't
you
know
again,
I
think
that's
a
I,
don't
think
I'd
do
anything
differently.
Obviously,
maybe
listen
a
little
bit
more
intently.
I
think
you
know,
council
Zakim,
you
know
we
had
a
situation.
I
think
a
couple
of
months,
a
couple
of
maybe
maybe
a
month
and
a
half
back
where
we
had
some
of
these
dispensaries
I
think
we
had
three
or
four
of
them
on
the
docket.
It
was,
you
know,
a
very,
very
tough
meeting
to
say,
I.
M
Think
we
don't
control
that
you
know,
that's
ISDN,
that's
you
know
we
as
a
board
have
to
deal
with
those
situations
that
arise
so
but
I
guess
I
guess
my
answer
would
be
again.
I
would
really
listen
intently
and
maybe
maybe
you
know
talk
to
some
of
the
community
members
a
little
bit
more
I,
don't
go
out
to
community
meetings.
Just
something
I
just
you
know,
won't
do
because
everybody
hits
you.
M
You
sit
on
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals,
and
you
know
this
project
is
a
bad
project
and
I
have
I
have
to
say
to
them.
I'm,
looking
at
the
merit
of
the
project,
I
know
that
you
don't
want
to
see
it
happen
next
to
you
or
in
your
backyard,
but
it
is
what
it
is,
and
you
know
somebody
has
an
opportunity
to
build
something
and
I
think
council,
a
Baker
put
it
in
good
perspective.
M
L
In
my
case,
I
think
of
having
the
authority
to
to
follow
up
on
promises
that
developers
make
I,
don't
know.
If
that's
in
my
position,
that's
a
doable
thing,
but
if,
if
I
had
a
wish
list,
that
would
be
one
of
the
things
because
we
hear-
and
we
judge
on
the
the
promised
Airy,
that
a
developer
makes
whether
it's
building
units
or
maintaining
affordability
within
the
footprint
of
their
development.
I,
don't
know
if
there
is
enough
follow-up
to
make
sure
or
if
they're,
putting
their
money
in
a
fund
to
build
affordable
housing.
L
K
Think
one
of
the
questions
you
asked
was:
what
would
we
do
differently
and
I
think
that
that's
a
good
question,
as
some
of
my
colleagues
have
spoken
about,
is
their
passion
for
the
City
of
Boston
and
I
too.
Share
that
passion
I
raised
my
family
here
and
it's
a
very,
very
important
place
to
me
and
it's
an
important
place
to
make
sure
we
have
smart
growth,
I,
think
that
displacement
and
and
and
those
kinds
of
questions
about
affordable
housing
and
you
know,
AMI
and
and
and
and
what's
affordable.
K
And
what
isn't
is
it's
not
up
to
me?
That's
up
to
somebody
else.
My
job
is
to
come
to
this
board
with
an
open
mind
to
come
to
the
meetings,
every
Tuesday
with
an
open
mind
and
to
be
able
to
listen,
but
also
be
flexible.
I
think
that
that's
where
my
experience
in
the
real
estate
world
helps
to
understand
kind
of
where
trends
are
going
and
what's
going
on.
You
know
because
it's
a
very
unique
argument
to
have
to
say
that
we
want
to
make
some
units
affordable
in
a
development,
but
we
don't
want
density.
K
You
don't
I
mean
it's
a
really,
it's
a
really
big
struggle
and,
from
from
a
perspective
of
you,
know,
investment
in
the
city.
You
know
it's
important
to
understand
those
things
and
those
are
the
things
that
I
watch
and
stay
on
top
of,
because
you
know
I
see
them
every
day
in
my
world
and
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
be
open-minded
and
and
when
you
said,
would
I
change
anything.
No.
The
only
thing
that
I
would
change
is
to
continue
to
be
passionate
and
continue
to
understand.
K
People
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
in
the
community
as
I.
You
know
where
I
grew
up
in
Dorchester
and
I'm
passionate
about
the
things
that
are
the
city
of
Boston
I'm,
passionate
about
making
sure
people
are
treated
equally
and
fairly
and
I'm
passionate
about
making
sure
that
we
help
people
that
need
help.
Those
are
the
things
that
keep
me
moving
and
and
and
I
think
that
it
to
be
said
is
that
this
is
an
ever-changing
ever-changing
board
that
we're
on
you
know.
What
would
have
been
it
would
have
been
approved.
K
B
Edwards
I,
just
I,
should
have
prefaced
some
of
my
questions
to
let
you
know
that
they're
they're,
coming
from
different
buckets
that
I
wanted
to
make
sure
one
that
we
were
clear
in
the
standards
and
these
buckets
are
kind
of
driven
by
the
questions
and
concerns
that
people
had
and
I
I
thought
it
would
be
unfair
to
go
to
granular
into
each
project.
I
just
wanted
to
pull
back
up
and
say
so.
B
But
you
do
have
the
opportunity
to
at
least
ask
the
developers.
Have
they
considered
it?
That's
a
public
good
issue,
so
at
hope
going
forward
for
those
of
you
who
are
returning
that
you
would
at
least
add
that
to
the
questions
that
you
have
so
because
public
good
is
your
charge
to
look
at
and
I.
Think
it's
great
that
you
are
all
Bostonians
and
incredibly
proud
of
it.
But
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
majority.
I
would
say:
majority
of
the
developers
are
not
they're
here
to
make
money,
and
that's
okay
I
make
money.
B
So
in
as
much
as
you
are
the
gatekeepers
who
are
Bostonians,
you
are
looking
in
your
assessing
I,
think
one
of
the
best
tools
and
also
demonstrating
that
you're
hearing
one
of
the
concerns
of
the
community
is
to
ask
the
question
so
I
hope
in
your
bedding
going
forward,
especially
with
the
large
projects
and
usually
with
the
iPod,
to
ask
the
question:
have
you
considered
what
this
does
for
displacement?
At
which
point
they
can
say?
Yes,
we
have
X
amount
of
affordable.
Yes,
we
talked
with
the
CDC.
B
We
look
at
this
mitigation,
but
if
not
prompted
they
may
not
ever
bother
to
to
have
that
so
I
think
there's
a
there's
a
with
several
the
concerns
that
I'm
going
to
turn
to
my
constituents.
I'd
love
to
be
able
to
tell
them
listen.
This
is
a
large
bucket
if
we
work
with
the
CBA
and
just
get
them
to
ask
some
of
these
questions.
No,
they
do
not
have
the
authority
to
deny
based
off
of
the
end
result,
but
they
certainly
have
the
opportunity
to
ask
those
questions
and
I
think
that
that
I
would
hope.
A
Just
for
the
record,
because
this
was
an
address
briefly
in
the
last
hearing,
I
think
before
councillor
Edwards
was
in
the
room.
All
remember
all
nominees
for
the
Zoning
Commission
confirmed
that
their
understanding
was
that
it
was
a
half
mile
that
the
that
the
two
proposed
locations
within
a
half
mile
of
each
other
should
not
both
be
approved,
that
it
was
that
the
word
existing
did
not
mean
physically
in
existence,
but
that
the
half
mile
radius
should
apply
to
any
that
are
being
approved.
C
C
You
know
each
each
case
comes
to
us
on
its
own
merit.
We
know
that
the
road
to
getting
a
license
is
long
and
arduous,
for
cannabis,
for
cannabis
and-
and
we
are
one
part
of
it
mm-hmm,
you
know,
and
so
we
look
at
each
case
on
its
own
merits,
so
we
are
looking
forward
to
hearing
the
next
case,
the
case
that
had
to
be
rescheduled
in
July
and
listening
very
closely
to
what
they
say
on
their
behalf.
You
know,
nothing
is
pre
thought
nothing
is
predetermined.
C
We
do
want
to
hear
from
them
because
everyone
is
entitled
to
a
process,
and
that
is
what
we
are
holding
to.
You
know
whether
it
was
scheduled
first,
whether
it
was
scheduled.
Second,
not
my
concern.
My
only
concern
is
hearing
from
the
applicants
hearing
what
they
have
to
say
and
taking
it
and
considering
it
there
and
then
the
chairwoman.
B
C
B
B
It
do
you
see
the
half
mile
as
a
standard
that
that
when
two
applicants
come
within
the
half
mile,
one
of
them
both
cannot
exist
or
do
you
see
it,
as
only
do
we
apply
this
standard
when
something
exists
and
and
that
I
think
that
consistent
viewpoint,
that
analysis
is
what
I'm
asking
how
you're
going
to
look
at
it
and
the
only
reason
why
I
ask
this
is
because
and
I
don't
mean
to
cut
you
off.
Mr.
Alvin
is
because
of
that
confusion.
B
K
I
actually
think
your
put
us
in
a
difficult
position
here
to
answer
that
question
and
I
think
that
we
have
a
case
pending
in
front
of
us
that
we
we
can't
speak
about
and
I,
don't
know
we're
sitting
here
as
an
open
meeting
more
than
three
people
here.
I
am
uncomfortable
answering
that
question
moving
forward
with
a
case
sitting
in
front
of
us.
So
that's
what
that's
my
stance
on
this
okay.
C
And
I
think
that's
what
you're
really
hearing
from
me
too.
Is
that
there's
this
level
of
discomfort
that
we
have
not
heard
fully
from
the
applicant
and
we
will
hear
from
them,
but
we
should
give
them
a
chance
to
air
their
their
project
completely.
You
know
there
was
a
reason
it
was
deferred
and
we
want
to
hear
them.
You
know
what
you
know.
We
can't
give
you
and
we're
not
comfortable
in
giving
you
a
hard-and-fast,
because,
as
I
said
before,
you
know,
we've
seen
so
many
projects.
C
You
know
that
have
come
before
us
asking
us
for
approval.
They've
gotten
the
approval
they've
never
come
in
for
to
extend
the
apartment.
They've
never
done
anything
like
that.
They've
just
died
on
the
vine,
you
know.
So
what
we
do
is
we'll
look
at
the
project
and
you
know
see
what
matures
listen
to
it
and
follow
it
through.
So.
B
I'll
move
on
to
other
questions,
but
I
will
say
this,
then,
on
the
I'm
not
asking
you
what
your
decision
will
be
because
I
understand,
even
with
current
laws,
the
zoning
code
you
grant
variances
to
them.
That
means
you
do
have
to
look
at
and
assess.
We
will
or
won't
follow
based
on
these
following
criteria
that
we
discussed.
So
that
is
not
challenged.
What
I
had
hoped
to
get
was
what
you're
looking
at
the
law
and
how
you're
seeing
it
that
you
won't
tell
me
it's
cos.
B
Well,
this
is
a
decision
you
decided
to
make
now
just
moving
on
to
additional
process
questions.
I
do
know
in
other
cities,
one
of
the
things
about
process
that
I
think
what
might
be
helpful
and
one
of
the
critiques
I've
heard
from
the
community
is
the
fact
that
so
many
these
hearings
are
in
the
morning
right
on
a
Tuesday,
a
lot
of
people
can't
or
they
do
have
to
get
off
work
to
come
here,
and
is
there
been
any
movement
or
maybe
in
your
experience,
I
think
you
said:
you've
been
20
years.
M
C
Past
there
was,
and
from
my
experience
because
Jeff
do
you
remember
those
days,
but
the
turnout
didn't
change
that
much
as
far
as
you
know,
resident
turn
up
was
not
did
not
change
that
much
and
for
us
we
are
open
to
it.
We're
we're
open
to
it,
but
you
know
we
feel
that
you
know
for
even
on
a
Thursday
hearings
when
there
are
cases
that
come
through
the
committee
hearings.
We
have
less
representation
from
elected
officials
from
the
from
from
everybody.
You
know
and
that's
that's
kind
of
disheartening
to
us.
That's
at
those
meetings
and.
B
At
three
o'clock
and
four
o'clock,
so
it's
a
pretty
heavy
day
for
it
is
it
is
in
a
back
and
I'm.
Just
you
know,
a
friend
of
mine
was
going
through
the
same
process
in
Brockton.
They
started
at
6:00
and
stayed
till
midnight
and
I'm
not
understand
that
that
what
that
would
mean
if
you
move
to
evenings
but
again
I'm
trying
to
be
to
do
my
job
and
as
people
ask
these
questions,
I
put
them
in
buckets
and
I'm.
Just
asking
you
thank
you
thoughts
about
that.
Thank
you.
B
The
final
on
the
process
is,
and
I
do
appreciate
that
online.
They
have
the
schedule
the
agenda
for
that
day
and
I.
Just
echo
councillor
clarity's
question:
is
there
any
way
to
get
real-time
immediate
changes
when
there's
a
deferral,
so
if
the
deferral
is
is
because
I
don't
think
it's
updated
online?
It
I
know
that
you
may
not
control
the
online
part,
but
if
that's
something
you
can
echo
to
I,
don't
know
if
it's
do
it
or
whoever
it
is
in
technology
again
just
and
when
the
date
for
the
deferrals
stated
on.
B
C
Check,
that's
something
that
they
do
appreciate,
because
you
know
we
are
staffed
by
AIA
Steven
Oken.
Our
decisions
are
made
independently,
but
we
are
staffed
by
a
city
and
I.
Think
the
mayor's
office
of
Neighborhood
Services
does
a
very
credible
job,
also
trying
to
get
the
information
out.
It's
also
helped
tremendously
that
that
we
are
live
streamed
because
then
you
know
it
helps
residents
to
to
to
understand
what
the
conversation
has
been
and
what
the
date
was
for.
The
deferrals
also
be
a
trying
very
hard
not
to
encourage
deferrals.
C
You
may
hear
me
say
that,
because
I
know
it's
hard
on
the
community
who
comes
and
wants
to
have
their
voice
heard
to
have
a
project
of
food,
but
so
we
are
trying
to
really
discourage
that
and
encourage
communities
and
community
groups
to
really
front-load
their
processes
so
that
we
are
not
waiting
for
for,
for
the
community
conversation
to
occur.
Moving.
B
Into
the
next
bucket
on
conflict
of
interest,
so
I'm
going
to
summarize
some
of
the
concerns
and
questions,
and
then
I
would
like
for
you
to
respond
to
how
you
deal
with
conflicts
of
interest.
So
concerns
about
conflict
of
interest
that
I
received.
Is
you
know
and
I
think
this
is
partly
because
the
community
realize
you
were
supposed
to
have
someone
from
the
real
estate
industry
on
the
cba.
B
There
was
a
concern
about
people
developing
currently
in
Boston
and
making
money
in
the
industry
so
already
in
the
process
of
and
working
to
make
sure
that
they
are
developing
and
moving
the
city
forward
and
doing
whatever
and
then,
as
a
result,
well,
naturally
would
favor
or
want
variances
that
they
too
would
one
day
benefit
from
so
I
don't
want
you
to
go
through
and
break
down.
Yes,
no,
we
have
or
haven't
just
tell
me
as
an
individual
when
you
see
or
how
you
assess
a
conflict
of
interest
and
what
you
do
so.
C
We're
all
subject
to
state
ethics
requirements,
so
we
take
the
training
on
AB
on
a
fairly
regular
basis
when,
when
the
system
works
because
I
know
I've
had
a
hard
time
this
year,
actually
getting
my
certificate,
because
this
seems
to
be
an
online
glitch.
So
we
do.
We
do
follow
those
those
ethics
guidelines.
We've
had
ethics
training.
What
was
it
a
couple
years
ago?
So
we
have
those
coming
on
fairly
regularly.
So
we
are
health
to
those
standards.
C
I
know
that
we
all
recuse
ourselves
if
we
have
a
financial
interest
in
a
project
recuse
ourselves-
and
we
happen
to
be
on
a
board
of
a
non-profit
that
comes
before
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeal.
So
I
know
that
there
are
those
kinds
of
very
you
know,
processes
very
and-
and
we
want
to
create
as
much
sunshine
as
we
can
on
what
are
conflicts
may
be,
so
you
will
see
us
leave
the
room
state
that
I.
C
Are
accusing
ourselves
and
leave
the
room
so
that
you
know
even
our
presence
doesn't
doesn't
you
know,
cast
any
kind
of
shadow
or
anything
on
the
process?
So
so
that's
clear
and
I
think.
As
far
as
the
the
legislation
the
I
mean,
the
zoning
code
does
require
us
yeah
I'm
from
different
constituencies
and
I.
Think
it's
all
complimentary
in
a
certain
way,
because
you
know
I
I,
don't
understand
the
depths
of
real
estate.
You
know
I
and
I,
don't
want
to
frankly
cuz
I'm
gonna.
C
A
A
N
Hello,
my
name
is
Nadine
Malan
and
I.
Am
a
resident
of
Dorchester
I
live
in
a
salmon
Hill
neighborhood
and
I'm
looking
to
serve
the
city
of
Boston
I've
been
a
resident
since
2005
in
Dorchester,
and
actually
I've
lived
in
Austin,
Brighton
and
also
the
Fenway
area
during
the
college
years,
and
then
I've
worked
in
the
Brighton
area.
O
Good
afternoon
councillors,
my
name
is
Joseph
Ruggiero
I'm,
a
resident
norian
Heights
East
Boston
I've,
been
arrested
in
our
East
Boston.
All
my
adult
life
I
am
a
candidate
as
a
community
community
member
of
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
I've,
been
a
member
of
the
orient
Heights
neighborhood
group
I
think
I
attended.
My
first
meeting
I
was
probably
18.
O
O
Until
currently,
and
currently,
small
business
owner
in
East,
Boston
I
own,
the
Ruggiero
family
memorial,
home
I've
been
a
member
of
a
bunch
of
different
community
organizations.
Youth
sports
organizations,
the
East
Boston
Chamber
of
Commerce
and
various
other
groups
have
been
an
IAG
member
previously
on
Addison
Street
I
AG,
which
started
in
October
of
2017
I,
was
in
Oregon
Heights
pointy
to
that
to
that
IAE
and
I'm
very
excited
to
represent
some
community
aspect
and
some
community
thought
process
on
the
Zoning
Board.
P
Thank
you
good
afternoon
councils,
my
name
is
Edward
DeVoe
I'm,
a
resident
of
East
Boston
lifelong
resident
of
the
city
of
Boston,
actually
fourth-generation
the
nominee
for
the
Greater
Boston
real
estate
board.
I
am
a
realtor.
My
office
is
located
in
East
Boston.
We
do
a
business
there,
primarily
prior
to
being
a
realtor
I
work
for
13
years
in
the
state
legislature,
starting
off
as
an
aide
to
then
representative
Anthony,
Petrocelli
and
working
my
way
up
through
into
the
Senate,
where
I
served
as
chief
of
staff
for
the
Committee
on
financial
services.
P
I've
been
involved
extensively
in
the
East
Boston
community
I've
served
the
nonprofit
boards,
such
as
the
Silesian
Boys
and
Girls
Club
East
Boston,
Athletic
Board,
just
to
name
a
few
I
am
a
homeowner
in
the
city
as
well,
and
I'm,
just
I'm
honored
to
have
been
nominated
and
I
look
forward
to
engaging
with
you
and
thank
you.
Thank.
B
You
so
much
so
I'm
gonna
just
do
the
same
thing.
I
did
with
buckets
and
just
making
sure
that
we're
clear
about
how
you
see
the
standard
for
a
variance
conflicts
of
interest
and
then
public
involvement,
so
I
had
gone
through
I
guess
the
the
four
major
components
of
a
variance
or
granting
a
variance
and
I'm
sure
you
are
all
fully
aware
of
some
of
the
perspectives
a
community
have
about
variances
in
general,
having
been
heads
of
or
involved
in
your
community
associations
and
how
people
feel
so
not
all.
B
But
a
good
number
people
feel
that
variances
were
just
given
out
and
that
there
seems
to
be
no
check
so
I'm
curious
how
you,
as
new
members,
would
balance
that
and
how
you
would
you
would
approach
the
perspective
on
variances
and
dealing
with
community
pushback,
because
it
will
be
a
lot
and
while
your
potential
future
colleagues
are
battle-hardened
and
been
through
up
and
down
all
the
rounds
about
it,
it's
not
an
easy
job.
So
I'm
curious
how
you're
gonna
balance
all
that
go
down
the
line.
N
Well,
I
think
that
I
mean,
as
a
new
member
I,
think.
The
first
thing
is
going
to
be
important
to
listen
to
all
sides
and
really
just
really
listen.
There's
going
to
be
varying
modes
of
conversation
having
I
also
forgot
to
mention
that
I
was
on
the
Jones
Hill
Civic
Association.
One
of
the
things
that
we
did
I
was
the
treasurer
there
and
I
also
spearheaded
the
planning
committee
and
what
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
was
a
pretense
for
coming
to
the
organization
for
variant
for
about
ours
meetings.
N
N
What
the
intended
use
is
how
it's
going
to
impact
the
neighborhood,
and
you
know
how
it's
going
to
impact
the
people
and
the
residents
that
are
around
it
and
kind
of
standardize
it
so
that
everybody
who
came
before
it
kind
of
ended
up
with
the
same
results
so
that
it
was
kind
of
transparent
and
then
everybody
would
have
the
same
process,
whether
you're,
a
homeowner
or
whether
you're
a
developer
and
I.
Think
it's
important
to
have
that
transparency
and
standardization,
so
that
everybody
was
on
the
same
playing
field
and
I.
N
N
O
You
for,
like
a
question,
counselor
I,
think
it's
important
to
review
each
case
on
a
case
by
case
basis
and
really
listen
to
the
community
into
their
concerns,
as
it
relates
to
the
variances
that
are
requested.
You
know
I
our
neighborhood
specifically
and
I
say
our
neighborhood
because
you
live
there
as
well
is
inundated
sometimes
with
variants
of
question
development,
and
you
know
I
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
attend
community
meetings
throughout
the
city.
O
I
walked
to
Suffolk
University
for
a
little
bit
and
attended
community
meetings
in
Beacon,
Hill
and
Downtown
Crossing
in
the
north
end
and
I
worked
here
in
the
city
and
the
transportation
department
and
attended
community
meetings
in
Mattapan
and
Dorchester
and
Roxbury
in
the
concerns
are
all
very
similar
throughout
the
city.
Sometimes
people
don't
feel
like
their
voices
are
being
heard.
O
So
it's
very
important,
especially
in
my
role,
has
as
a
community
person
on
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
to
make
sure
that
the
community
is
heard
and
also
that
the
community
is
directing
their
conversations.
You
know
the
community
is
directing
their
conversations
to
the
merits
of
the
variance
and
that
that's
an
important
distinction
to
make
and
make
and
being
able
to
sift
through.
That
is
something
and
I
and
look
forward
to
learning
a
lot
through
this
process.
P
My
job
would
be
to
to
listen,
I
think
that
it's
obviously
incumbent
upon
anyone
that
is
taking
on
a
new
task
to
educate
themselves
to
the
best
of
their
ability
on
the
issues
that
will
be
before
us
to
engage
one
of
the
things
that
I've
sort
of
surmised
from
listening
to
the
board
and
just
from
previous
knowledge
is
that
while
the
CBA
appears
to
have
a
great
deal
of
autonomy,
it
seems
as
though
that
this
is
a
collective
effort
from
a
lot
of
different
parties.
The
community
input,
I
think,
is
very
important.
P
Obviously,
communication
with
elected
officials
I
understand
how
that
could
be.
How
that
is.
I
was
not
an
elected
official,
but
I
attended
community
meetings
for
four
years.
I
have
dealt
with
constituents
for
years,
so
I'm
very
much
attuned
to
that
and
as
a
Boston
resident
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
maybe
hat
well.
A
lot
of
people.
I'd
mentioned
how
proud
they
are
to
be
Boston
residents.
But
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
maybe
was
left
out
is
it
as
Boston
residents.
We
deal
with
the
development
as
well.
P
B
O
B
So
there's
two
qualifications
in
which
you
can
meet
the
community
member
or
neighborhood
group
member
one
is
that
you
have
served
as
an
officer.
Remember
the
board
of
directors
for
a
year
or
the
other
one
is
that
you
are
a
member
of
a
residential
neighborhood
organization
which
has
been
established
by
the
mayor
and
so
which
one
do
you
fit
under.
O
So
it's
been
right
around
a
year
since
I've
served
this
that
role,
I
mean
Orion
Heights
neighborhood
councils
bylaws
are
submitted
to
the
office
of
neighborhoods
mayor's
office
of
neighborhood
services
to
as
a
recognized
group,
I
have
a
mayor's
office
of
Neighborhood,
Services
and
I've.
Been
a
member
of
that
group
for
I.
Remember
I,
remember
specifically
back
in,
like
2013
2014
being
a
vocal
opponent
to
a
project
that
actually
got
approval
from
the
neighborhood
council
and
zoning
approval
and
is
still
not
built
yet
so
I.
O
O
Do
is
like
questions.
It
all
happened
so
abruptly
so
from
my
recollection,
I,
remember
being
in
a
meeting
in
June
and
being
like
guys
me.
We
got
a
vote
on
this
and
they're
like
no
no
you're,
just
the
president
and
I'm
like,
but
we
should
vote
and
then
we
did
like
nominations
in
July
and
then
voted
in
September,
maybe
for
like
official,
where
I
went
from
acting
to
actual
actual
I
guess
and
I
I
mean
I
I,
don't
I!
Don't
I
can
look
that
up,
but
I've
been
attending.
That
group
no.
B
B
B
Then
there
was
the
the
I,
don't
know
if
you
want.
If
Frankie
okay,
then
there's
the
the
group
of
questions
around
conflict
of
interest,
but
again
I
got
another
set
of
emails
about
folks
and
concerns
about
members
and
again
I
walk
through
these
categories.
I
mentioned
working
in
real
estate
and
developing
currently
in
Boston
relationship
with
the
mayor.
B
Let's
see
what
else
is
there
I
continued
or
I,
don't
know
previous
activities
or
current
projects
that
may
be
pending
before
your
civic
associations
that
your
members
of
so
all
of
those
were
brought
as
potential
conflicts
of
interest?
So
would
you
just
like
your
future
colleagues
mention?
How
would
you
deal
with
conflicts
of
interest
well,.
N
As
as
I
understand,
we
go
through
conflicts
of
interest,
training
which
I've
actually
having
been
members
of
various
nonprofit
boards,
I've
done
before,
and
I
assume
that
we
will
do
again
so
I'll
become
certified,
so
it
will
be
a
recusal
if
there
is
a
project
that
I
have
a
interest
in
I,
don't
see
an
issue
with
it.
I
think
anybody
that
knows
me
can
testify
that
I'm,
you
know
honest
to
a
fault.
O
P
Echo
those
sediments
I
have
been
through
state
ethics
training
on
numerous
occasions,
if
I
felt,
as
though
something
would
be
a
conflict
of
interest.
Well,
even
on
face
value,
if
it
wasn't,
I
would
be
sure
to
take
the
necessary
steps
and
recuse
myself
from
from
any
projects
in
which
there
could
be
any
type
of
conflict
and.
B
Then
there
was
the
the
public
input
input.
Excuse
me
an
involvement
and
I
had
mentioned
potentially
looking
at
evening
meetings
in
the
prior
back-and-forth,
and
then
also
they
had
corrected
me
and
noted
that
the
actual
notification
of
deferral
would
be
probably
an
ISDA
directed.
So
tell
me
about
how
you
think:
what
do
you
think
about
the
community
involvement
so
far
with
the
CBA
and
if
you
are
on
the
CBA,
how
would
you
improve
it
or
how
would
you
do
it
differently
about?
You
know
involving
folks,
I.
N
I
think,
with
this
day
and
age
with
electronic
communications,
I
think
that
there's
definitely
been
some
improvement.
I
think
efforts
to
I
know
that
you
can
get
on
an
email
list,
I'm
on
an
email
list.
I
get
emails,
notifying
me
of
hearings
for
projects
that
are
in
my
community
I.
Think
that's
great
I
think
getting
the
word
out
that
that's
available
to
people
will
be
certainly
helpful.
I
think
that
there's
more
that
can
be
done.
N
I
think
this
is
something
above
our
head
here,
but
I
think
that
is
D
could
probably
use
some
more
resources
all
around
and
hopefully
that
they
can
get
that
and
that
can
be
improved
notification.
I
mean
mailings
would
certainly
help
I
think
the
right.
Now
they
go
door
to
door,
and
you
know
tape
it
on
your
front
door,
and
sometimes
you
get
it.
Sometimes
you
don't.
N
N
O
Can
echo
those
same
sentiments
I
think
sometimes
I
feel
like
I
stay
very
well
informed
because
a
very
text
too
heavy
and
I
check
and
I
check
my
emails
and
stuff
and
the
complaints.
I
I
get
I
hear
a
lot
in
the
community
or
from
some
of
our
senior
residents
that
are
nice
tech-savvy
that
aren't
on
email,
that
don't
get
email,
notifications
and
being
able
to
bridge
that
gap
somehow
would
be
something
I,
don't
think
is
under
the
purview
of
us,
but
something
that
would
be
interested
I
was
excited
to
see.
O
C
P
If,
if
there
was
a
greater
incentive
paid
toward
notifying
people,
I
think
that
would
just
be
beneficial
to
everyone,
so
as
hopefully,
as
as
an
appointee,
I
think
that's
something
that
within
our
purview,
I
would
be
happy
to
to
work
on.
Tv
show
that
people
can
attend
meetings
that
they're
aware
of
meetings
and
that
the
community
is
is
thoughtfully
engaged
in
the
process.
Okay,.
D
O
I
mean
I
have
a
condo,
that's
being
built
for
myself.
Besides,
that
I
mean
I
would
assume
that
I
mean
I
own
property
in
the
neighborhood.
If
the
person
to
the
left
of
a
writer
across
the
street
from
me
was
building,
I
would
recuse
myself
and
to
nots
way
that
I
would
assume
that
that
could
be
the
only
thing.
I
can
kind
of
really
see
yeah
other
than
that
my
clients
don't
really
file
for
variance.
D
Okay
and
to
come
back
to
civic
engagement,
a
little
bit
I,
don't
it
and
I
think
all
of
us
that
work
within
these
walls
have
to
constantly
think
about
civic
engagement,
making
sure
the
people
at
least
know
I,
don't
know
if
in
your
job,
that
it's
good
that
it's
part
of
your
job,
but
you
could
probably
you
know,
working
with
working
with
ISD.
Let's
get
that,
let's
get
that
notification
process
a
little
bit
so
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
make
that
statement
there,
I'm
good
for
now.
Thank
you
thanks.
A
Q
Madam
chair
good
afternoon,
everyone
I
guess
not
so
much
for
the
nominees
themselves
but
and
perhaps
you've
covered
this
and
the
discussion
I
apologize
for
coming
late.
It's
been
a
very
busy
day,
but
I'm
really
interested
in
understanding
the
who
is
being
represented
on
our
zba
and
so
I
know
that
many
folks
in
real
estate
are,
and
obviously
we
need
expertise
from
folks
who
are
in
real
estate
on
the
CBA.
P
P
One
of
the
things
that
I
think
is
is
very
important
is
that,
although
we
are
nominated
by
I
am
nominated
by
the
Greater
Boston
real
estate
board,
is
that
also
on
the
Boston
resident
I've
lived
here?
My
entire
life
council
Flaherty
had
mentioned
that
earlier
that
he
does
not
recall
a
time
where
there
was
a
nominee
or
a
board
member
from
East
Boston.
That
is
something
that
I
take
great
pride
in,
so
I
lived
there
and
I
guess
is
a
matter
of
point.
My
parents
live
there.
Thankfully
my
grandmother
still
lives
there,
family
friends.
P
So,
although
I
am
coming
from
a
real
estate
background
and
prior
to
that,
I
wasn't
in
public
service,
we
see
the
impacts
that
the
community
that
that
go
on
in
the
community
I
deal
with
folks
that
that
honestly
have
no
choice
but
to
sell
their
house.
In
some
occasions,
I've
worked
with
folks
that
we've
done
our
best
to
help
them
save
their
house.
I
have
gone
back
and
forth
with
banks
numerous
times.
People
have
had
full
closure
issues.
This
may
sound
strange
coming
from
a
realtor,
but
there
are
many
times.
P
I
have
told
people
not
to
sell
their
house
and
we
do
our
best
to
keep
them
there.
So
for
me
for
someone
who
lives
in
East
Boston
who
lives
in
the
city
of
Boston,
whose
family
lives
in
the
city
of
Boston
for
someone
who
wants
to
continue
to
live
in
the
city
of
Boston
and
raise
a
family
I
think
it's
important
that
that
we
all
do
our
best
to
make
sure
that
the
city
is
inclusive
of
people
of
all
of
all
facets
of
life.
So
that's
something
that
I
think
is
very
important.
N
As
as
a
somebody
in
the
real
estate
profession,
we
see
it
every
day
that
and
myself
if
I
didn't
purchase
a
home
and
you
know
have
the
benefit
of
equity.
If
I
were
a
first-time
home,
buyer
I
would
not
be
looking
to
purchase
a
home
in
the
city
of
Boston.
I
simply
would
not
be
able
to
afford
it,
so
it
is
very
present.
N
We
work
with
first-time
home
buyers
and
renters
that
are
simply
priced
out,
and
what
we
are
seeing
also
is
that
renters
cannot
afford
to
rent
in
the
city
and
what
has
happened
is
I
live
in
Dorchester
in
Savin,
Hill,
neighborhood
and
families
cannot
afford
to
rent
in
the
triple-decker,
because
there
are
no
one-bedroom
units
for
people
to
rent.
So
what
happens
is
you
have
three
people
generally
in
their
20s
and
they
can
afford
eight
nine
hundred
dollars
a
month.
So
what
happens?
N
N
Q
Let
me
just
if
it's
okay
with
you,
madam
chair,
you
know
my
experience
with
the
CBA
and
following
development
projects
in
my
district.
There
are,
you
know,
neighbors,
who
will
come
out
to
the
meetings
very
frustrated
that
their
voices
are
not
being
heard,
that
they
feel
that
the
CBA
is
not
being
responsive
to
the
concerns
that
they
are
raising,
and
so
I
just
want
to
bring
that
up.
Q
And
so
it's
important
that
if
we
are
going
to
have
a
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals,
that
we
know
that
this
is
an
independent
body
independent
from
the
mayor
and
independent.
In
terms
of
really
looking
at
each
case
and
making
sure
that
you
are
listening
to
the
residents
in
our
neighborhoods
around
development.
N
I
think
every
project,
as
was
been
mentioned,
it
needs
to
be
weighed
on
the
public
good,
so
I
think,
given
the
testimony
I
think
you
have
to
look
at,
is
it
going
to
benefit
the
public
good?
Is
it
going
to
make
housing
more,
affordable,
more
accessible?
And
you
know
not.
Every
project
that
comes
through
is
going
to
be
housing
as
well,
so
I
think
that's
also
in
the
broader
scope
of
things
too.
N
O
I,
thank
you
for
the
question
counselor
as
one
of
the
representatives
that
will
be
the
community,
a
community
nominee
for
this
zoning
board.
It's
above
most
importance
that
I
take
him
to
consider
the
way
the
community
feels
on
particular
developments
in
relation
to
the
zoning
case
at
hand
and
then
the
merits
of
the
variance
is
requested.
O
I've
had
the
pleasure
and
privilege
to
go
to
various
neighborhood
groups
throughout
the
city
and
hear
that
same
frustration
and
make
sure
I
mean
we
did
a
when
I
worked
for
the
city.
We
did
a
municipal
parking
lot
restoration
over
in
Mattapan
and
I
and
being
able
to
do
site
visits
with
the
residents
and
being
able
for
them
to
actually
impact
very
specifics
on
what
they
wanted
was.
O
It
was
what
it
was
all
about
and
making
sure
was
a
success,
so
so
the
resident
your
residency,
the
abutters
and
the
residents
there
their
voice
needs
to
be
heard
and
needs
to
be
taken
into
consideration,
specifically
direct
about
its
people
that
have
to
live
with
whatever
the
proper
proposal
is
on
a
daily
basis
and
rarely
making
sure
that
they
have
voices
I
heard
both
for
in
opposition
I've,
also
seen
just
in
neighborhood
groups
where
direct
about
is
supportive
of
a
project.
They
believe
it's
gonna
make
their
property
value
about.
O
But
someone
you
know
a
quarter
mile
down
the
street
is
in
opposition
because
they
think
it's
too
dense
and
it's
like
the
direct
about
is
gonna,
be
the
one
most
effective.
Their
property
values
are
gonna
if
that's
really
what
they
care
about,
and
you
know
making
sure
that
their
voices
are
heard
and
protected
both
in
the
majority
and
minority,
sometimes
to
hear
from
all.
P
And
I
guess
just
to
circle
back
on
that
I
had
mentioned
before
in
a
previous
comment
that
I
think
anytime,
anyone
is
in
a
role
where
they're
in
public
service
they're
serving
the
greater
good
of
the
community
and
I,
don't
view
the
CBA
any
differently.
It's
my
understanding
that
it
is.
There
is
a
lot
of
autonomy
granted
to
the
Zoning
Board,
and
they
had
mentioned
to
council
ahead.
Woods.
I
also
think
it's
a
collective
effort
where
the
board
has
to
work
with
the
community,
with
the
City
Council
with
the
administration
and
all
other
interested
parties.
P
So
for
me
that
that's
my
understanding
of
it
that
it
all
cases
should
be
based
on
merits.
All
decisions
should
be
based
on
the
merit
of
the
of
the
proposal
and
that
that
is
my
take
away
from
it
and
that's
my
understanding
going
forward,
and
that
is
how
I
plan
on,
if
I'm
fortunate
enough
to
be
appointed.
That's
how
I
plan
on
serving
on
the
board.
A
You
councillor
Janey,
so
just
actually
to
go
back
to
the
first
question
that
councillor
Janey
had
posed
and
kind
of
summarized,
and
it
relates
to
something
I'm.
Gonna
ask
I
promise
the
way
the
members
are
nominated
is
very
strictly
defined
by
statute,
and
so
the
seven
seats
are
one
essentially
one
real
estate
person,
one
architect,
1
2
out
of
somehow
affiliated
with
the
trades
at
their
Boston
building,
trades
or
state
level,
one
at-large
candidate
and
then
two
representing
neighborhood
groups.
A
So
the
split
among
the
seven
is
really
four
who
have
who
are
tied
to
some
industry,
with
financial
stake
in
development
and
three
kind
of
representing
the
community
side.
So
these
community
voices,
those
seats
are
incredibly
important,
particularly
when
it
is
a
minority
of
this
I
mean
not
to
say
that
the
real
estate
representative
is
an
of
the
community,
and
everyone
has
to
be
a
Boston
resident,
but
it
is
just
for
the
even
the
perception
of
community
to
feel
like
they
have
a
voice,
so
so
important.
A
O
As
councillor
Edwards
earlier
spoke
in
this
hearing
about
like
asking
those
developers,
if
they've
taken
things
into
consideration,
you
know
we
see
9
unit
proposals
all
the
time.
We
see
it
all
the
time
and
really
and
and
it's
that
tough
balance
where
it's
it's,
the
neighborhood
doesn't
want
density,
but
we
need
a.
We
need
a
address,
the
displacement
issue
and
really
listening
to
the
cues
from
the
community
on
where
maybe
they
would
be
more
open
to
density,
to
try
to
help
offset
the
displacement
issue.
O
So
I've
seen
firsthand
the
struggles
of
a
lot
of
people
in
the
neighborhood
and
I've
heard
the
stories
of
people
that
have
had
to
move
to
Chelsea,
to
Lynn
to
Lowell
and
Lawrence
and
quadrupled
their
commute
now
down
to
work
to
work,
the
jobs
that
are
in
the
city
that
can
and
and
so
seeing
that
and
really
asking
those
questions
at
the
zoning
board
to
make
sure
that
developers
are
at
least
thinking
about
it.
So.
A
O
I
believe
there
is
when
I
believe
you
need,
and
you
need
a
way
everything
on
a
case-by-case
basis
and
really
see
where
the
community,
the
consumer,
supports
development
and
where
they
don't
and
like
I
know,
we
spot
there's
a
lot
of
the
times.
It's
known
on
the
major
streets
and
the
major
squares
they
states
they
drive.
They,
the
community
seems
to
support
more
there
than
they
do
in
inside
the
neighborhood,
let's
per
say,
but
you
know
working
and
listening
to
the
community
on
what's
acceptable
and
what's
not
to
them
and
really
echoing
that
concern.
I.
N
You
that
is
a
tough
question,
I
think
gentrification.
It's
it's
a
very
tough
thing
for
us,
as
a
committee
to
to
address
I,
think
that's
a
larger
policy
issue
that
as
counselors
and
leaders,
that's
something
that
may
be
better
for
that
to
be
addressed
on
on
a
higher
level
and
for
us
to
take
the
lead,
as
from
City
Council
and
from
the
leadership
I.
N
Think
it's
from
a
boards
perspective
is
to
listen
to
the
community
and
listen
to
their
concerns,
because
there
are
real
I
think,
there's
definitely
a
lot
of
fear
that
a
brand
new
shiny
building
is
going
to
come
in,
and
you
know
the
little
corner
store
that
everybody
is
used
to
going
to
that.
They
know
where
everything
is,
and
that
is
all
going
to
go
away
and
their
way
of
life
is
going
to
disappear.
I
think
that
fear
is
real
and
I
think
it
does
happen.
I
think
there
is
a
balance.
N
I
think
there
is
some
blending
of
old
and
new
that
can
happen
and
I
think
with
smart
development.
That
can
happen.
I
think
we've
kind
of
seen
it
in
some
areas.
I
think
that
is
where
kind
of
zoning
that
can
kind
of
come
in
and
dovetail
some
of
that
and
I
think
really
listening
to
the
community
and
approving
projects
that
really
kind
of
try
to
preserve
some
of
the
old
and
new
can
can
keep
some
of
that.
N
The
cultural
gentrification
at
bay
I
think
it's.
If
you
do
nothing,
I
think
you
will
just
the
steamrolled
gentrification
will
come
in
steamroll
and
people
will
buy
up
all
the
property
and
that
you
can't
help
that's
market
forces.
If
we
do
nothing
and
build
nothing,
the
highest
bidder
will
always
win,
so
we
do
need
to
produce
housing.
We
do
need
to
increase
our
supply.
Our
population
is
growing.
Those
are
facts
that
we
can
nor
we
just
need
to
be
smart
about
it
and
that's
my
feelings
about
it.
Thank
you.
I.
P
K
P
I'll
go
back,
you
know
a
three
family,
a
triple-decker.
It
was
you
know,
someone's
aunt
you
and
then
your
grandmother
on
the
third
floor
and
that's
how
it
was
for
a
lot
of
us
I
also
remember
in
the
late
80s
in
the
early
90s,
when
a
lot
of
those
buildings
are
empty
and
a
lot
of
those
storefronts
were
empty
and
to
see
the
transformation
in
Boston,
particularly
in
the
neighborhood
that
I
live
in
East
Boston
is
remarkable.
P
I
remember
during
my
my
time,
working
in
the
legislature
and
in
with
Senator
Petrocelli
that
there
was
a
great
demand
for
waterfront
development
in
East
Boston.
It
was
something
that
had
been
passed
over
in
previous
administrations
in
the
70s,
the
80s
in
the
90s,
we're
finally
starting
to
see
that
we're
seeing
the
fruits
of
that
labor
for
all
those
years
for
people
who
fought
for
that.
So
that
being
said,
I
think
that
that
development
can
be
positive
in
the
sense
that
you
take
land.
P
That
was
not
very
useful
for
people
for
a
long
time
and
you
create
housing
that
people
can
live
there.
People
want
to
live
in
the
city
of
Boston.
It's
a
great
city,
it's
in-demand,
I,
see
it
every
day,
particularly
in
my
neighborhood
of
East
Boston
I
would
say
the
majority
of
people
that
I
work
with
to
buy
homes
in
East
Boston.
A
lot
of
them
aren't
from
the
from
the
neighborhood
originally
are
they're
from
out
of
state
from
out
of
country
and
I.
P
Don't
see
that
as
a
negative
I
see
that
as
somebody
as
something
that
shows
how
far
the
city
has
come
that
people
want
to
live
here.
That
being
said,
I
think
development
has
to
be
done
responsibly.
I
think
that
is
the
key
term
that
you
know
all
efforts
have
to
be
made
to
keep
people
in
their
neighborhoods
if
they
want
to
stay.
P
If
there
are
people
who
want
to
stay
in
a
home
that
they've
been
in
for
30
40
years,
generational
in
neighborhoods
that
they
feel
comfortable
in
in
neighborhoods,
where
they
know
the
corner
store
things
of
that
nature.
I
think
it's
incumbent
upon.
You
know
developers
elected
officials,
the
community
as
a
whole,
to
sort
of
make
sure
that's
done
in
a
way
where
that's
possible.
That's
probably
a
bit
of
a
pipe
dream.
P
I'm
sure
it's
it
sounds
better
in
theory,
but
there
are
steps
to
be
taken
where
I
think
it's
important
that
there's
a
number
of
affordable
housing
units
that
again
it's
done.
The
best
way
I
can
describe
is
done
in
a
very
responsible
community,
driven
thoughtful
manner
that
that
is
what
I
think
would
be
of
most
benefit.
From.
From
my
perspective,
thank.
A
Councillor
Janie
had
brought
up
independence
and
I'm
curious
about
that
in
context
of
the
Cannabis
buffer
zone
policy,
question
that
has
come
up
again
and
again.
You
know,
and
this
you
are
to
East
Boston
residents.
This
is
particularly
relevant
to
you
all
in
your.
You
know.
Neighborhood
life
curious
to
hear
your
view
of
what
of
your
interpretation
of
that
half
mile
buffer
rule
should
both
applicants
and
it's
you
don't
have
to
talk
about
this
specific
case,
because
this
is
going
to
be
a
question.
A
Citywide
should
to
applicants
who
are
coming
to
you
as
new
applicants
within
a
half
mile
of
each
other
be
allowed
to
both
receive
permits.
Or
do
you
respect
the
intent
that
the
council
had
when
we
had
all
these
hearings
that
the
half-mile
radius
was
meant
to
spread
out
more
equitably,
the
dispensaries
that
the
administration
actually
respected
when
they
came
before
the
council
hearing
after
hearing
talking
about
it
the
same
way
and
now
that
all
of
a
sudden
there's
a
new
interpretation
that
it
turns
on
the
word
existing?
O
So
I
guess
my
question
to
this
I
believe
the
intent
of
it
is
that
there
are
supposed
to
be
two
dispensaries
with
a
1/2
mile
of
each
other,
but
that's
the
intent
of
it.
My
question
is
that
the
process-
and
it
was
mentioned
earlier
today-
is
often
you
see
things
owned
and
permitted
that
never
get
built
that
never
come
that
never
happened
so
I'm
I
need
to
educate
myself
on
what
the
process
is
and
and
like.
When
you
get
zoning
approval,
do
you
immediately
get
a
license
the
next
day?
I?
O
A
P
I
will
be
frank
that
I,
don't
think
I
have
frankly
enough
information
to
speak
eloquently
on
it.
However,
you
know
what
I
had
mentioned
my
opening
statement
I'm
very
much
open
to
obviously
learning
and
educating
myself
on
it.
So
if
that
is
a
dialogue
with
you
and
fellow
members
of
the
council
and
interested
parties,
I
am
more
than
open
to
doing
that.
P
N
Like
to
just
repeat
I,
don't
know
enough
about
the
specific
situation,
I
think
from
what
I've
heard
today.
The
process
may
have
not
worked
perfectly
and
I
think
what
it
says.
It's
like.
Okay,
we
need
to
just
tighten
up
our
process,
maybe
fix
what
happened
here
and
then
come
up
with
just
a
cleaner
process
and
then
just
move
forward.
A
Thank
you
no
I,
appreciate
that,
and
you
know
no
disrespect
to
the
the
members
who
spoke
before,
but
I
do
think
that
it
is
not
about
a
case-by-case
here.
It
is
about
this
larger
question
and
you
know:
I
voted
I
proudly
voted
for
legal
I
have
no
issue
with
the
businesses
etc.
But
I
see
this
also
as
the
will
of
the
council
and
therefore
the
people
who
participated
in
that
legislative
process
having
set
up
a
buffer
zone
now
being
kind
of
tossed
aside,
potentially
because
of
a
mistake
that
should
be
addressed.
B
B
And
then
the
other
question
I
had
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
Jo.
You
address
this
particular
concern.
That
is,
you
know.
As
you
know,
your
brother
works
for
the
BPD,
a
and
he's
part
of
the
process
for
plan
he's
Boston,
and
so
here
he
is
part
of
helping
East
Boston,
set
new
zoning,
set
new
guidelines
and
move
forward.
It's
a
process
I
fully
support
right.
B
So
this
is
a
good
thing,
and
so
we
have
brother,
your
brother
on
the
helping
to
plan,
and
we
have
now
another
person
and
the
family
who's
going
to
be
looking
at
variances,
potentially
to
that
plan
or
to
what
people
are
looking
at.
So
talk
to
me
about
how
we
tell
East,
Boston
folks
or
folks
in
Boston
that
this
is
not
a
conflict.
This
is
this:
how
you're
going
to
approach
this?
B
O
Mean
I,
don't
I
I,
don't
I,
don't
understand
where
we're
coming
from
on
this
I
will
be
walking
if
appointed
to
this
board
I'm
working,
we're
looking
at
zoning
throughout
the
entire
City
of
Austin,
he's
Boston
being
one
ward
of
the
20.
Whatever
was
there
in
in
that
all
being
said
that
that
process
that's
going
on
is
is
going
to
take
a
while
and.
O
O
B
D
You
yeah
and
I
want
to
get
something
on
the
record,
so
the
last
time
this
board
was
really
under
the
control
of
the
man
was
the
last
administration.
If
anybody
remembers
that
last
administration,
nothing
moved,
nothing
happened
unless
it
was
an
OK
from
the
fifth
floor,
they
used
it
to
artificially
hold
the
real
estate
market
down
the
use
of
the
way
to
pay
retribution
literally,
yet
that
at
the
funeral
the
chief
of
staff
was
joking
about
how
they
withheld
permits
and
variances
and
people.
D
D
Guess
what
we're
a
world-class
City
now
and
that's
why
everybody
wants
to
be
hit
and
we
need
to
build
for
the
people
that
are
coming
here
and
you
talked
about
corner
stores
and
everything
like
this
as
a
district
City
Council,
one
of
the
most
one
of
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
proud
of
as
a
developer
coming
in,
he
was
displacing
a
corner
store
that,
quite
frankly,
helped
to
feed
my
family
I'm.
Fifty
helped
to
feed
my
family
for
70
years.
D
Part
of
the
deal
was
you
let
that
guy
go
back
in
there
and
then
we,
then
we
can
talk
so
part
of
what
we
do
I
is
is
to
help
you
guys
when
they
leave
our
office.
They
should
be
better
products
coming
coming
to
you,
guys
and
and
more
of
just
statements,
madam
chair,
but
I
plan
on
voting
in
favor.
All
three
of
these
applicants
here,
thank
you.